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Speaker (00:01):
Welcome to the Inca here in podcast.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (00:24):
We're back for episode six of the
Incoherent Podcast, Zach and Howare years going?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (00:32):
It's,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15 (00:33):
going.
Good.
How are you?

zach-host190_1_10-15-20 (00:35):
episode 6.1 because, well, you

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (00:38):
6.2.
6.2.
I didn't delete his.
Zach dropped out and I lost allthe conversation.
It wasn't very exciting, metalking to myself like a fuck
wit.
So

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (00:50):
You, you muted us out, don't lie.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (00:52):
I didn't.
Definitely didn't get in, get itdone.
So what did you get up to overthe weekend?

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (01:02):
Oh, we got a bit of shit done at
home.
had a lawn and that.
Done a bit of shit at home andhad some stuff out at the farm.

the-incoherent-podcast_1 (01:09):
Didn't buy a PS five.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025 (01:11):
I didn't buy a piece of wife, but
maybe Santa Santa might bring itto me.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (01:15):
go buy Zoe some flowers and she
might get you one.
Seems like,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (01:20):
It's her birthday.
It's her birthday next week, so

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (01:23):
five.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-202 (01:25):
Oh good.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (01:26):
got this four.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (01:27):
Yeah.
Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (01:28):
that before.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (01:30):
It's an expensive weekend for you,
Hoover, if we go to the PBR.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (01:34):
Yeah.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-202 (01:35):
Oh yeah.
I know.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (01:36):
can get a PBR game on.
There's a PBR game on firstfight.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025 (01:40):
I got one on my phone.
PB game.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (01:43):
Phone gaming's not gaming.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (01:44):
kids.
Yeah, the kids play.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (01:47):
There isn't.
PBR eight second game, I'vealways thought about trying it,
but it just, I don't know.
I think it's cheap now too.
It used to be expensive.
It was like 60 bucks orsomething like that.
Not for that, yeah, that'd bepretty cool.

zach-host190_1_10-15- (02:01):
Something

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (02:01):
we'll have our games on there.
We'll be playing arc andbattlefield and shit and Hoover
will have PBR and fucking speedSpeedway.
So anyway.
Now I know you used didn't watchBathurst'cause we did an episode
yesterday and you just told meour shit is'cause it's not
forward verse Holden, eventhough it's exactly the same
racing, they've just gotdifferent shells on'em and say

(02:22):
they're different manufacturers,but.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (02:25):
went and picked the kids up a good
earlier, and fucking teacher,she even said Bathurst is not
the same because it's not Fordversus Holden anymore.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (02:37):
What are teachers?
They,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (02:38):
she likes Bathurst.
She sat there and watched it allweekend, but even she admits
it's not the same.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (02:45):
I'm just looking forward to the
super, I think they was, waspretty cool watching Monster
have a beer up on deal with the,with the fans, that wasn't too
bad.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (02:53):
Yeah.
That's getting around toeverywhere at the moment on
social media.
They were even talking about iton the radio when I was coming
home from work.
Yeah.
They were all over it talkingabout it.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (03:02):
lost it.
I just can't wait till he getsinto that super, to be honest.
I'll be happy then.
I love the super, butapparently, I was reading today
that the, the other teams havebeen complaining already about
the the shape and everything.
Well, you said the other dayUber, so, but it's gonna be an

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (03:17):
Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (03:18):
and this and that, but.
just see what happens next yearI suppose.
But I'm looking forward to it.
Look sick, getting around thetrack.
I think it'll be good next year.
It's good one to come off.
Anyway, bit of rain.
I was sitting around waiting forthe rain.
I was waiting for a car therefor a bit and I think I was on
the edge of my seat for half thebrace to be honest.

(03:39):
So yeah.
But I think the other big newscoming up today since we did the
Bob Cast was the 10 year bin onfucking players gonna 360 from
the NRL and I cannot see thatworking out very well for the
NRL'cause that'd be a restraintof trade if the players are off

(04:02):
contract.
don't think they're gonna beallowed to, do shit to be
honest.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-202 (04:08):
Do you reckon?
Do you reckon it will actuallyhappen, but, or is it all just
trying to put the wind up and

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (04:14):
or the being,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (04:16):
No, the band, the band.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (04:17):
bin.
But it was the same thing thePGA went through with the Liv.
They tried to band players fromcoming back to the PFGA and then
when they decided to stay withLiv at kind of faded away and
now they've sort of joinedtogether sort of thing and came
to a deal agreement.
So I think they did the samething with the Super league
'cause they'd been players fromplaying state of origin and for

(04:39):
Australia and stuff and used aRL players only.
So, you know, they're allthreats.
But when it comes down to actuallaw shit in, in a courtroom,
that's where things change.
it depends on what the lawstates and I can't see an agent
getting banned if a player's offcontract and their sole job is

(04:59):
to get'em there.
best deal that they can get themand you are restraining them
from that sort of trade?
I can't, I can't see ithappening, to be honest, when I,
when I think about it.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (05:13):
I don't think the, the agent will
get banned try, but

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (05:17):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (05:18):
yeah, it's in the past and it hasn't
worked out so well for'em.
So,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (05:23):
No,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (05:24):
but as for the players, if they
break contract,

the-incoherent-podcast_1 (05:28):
That's different.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (05:29):
their club and go over there.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (05:31):
Yep.

zach-host190_1_10-15-202 (05:32):
taking a big gamble.
'cause if that R 360 doesn'ttake off doesn't last 10 years,
They can't come back.
They, they're restricted to,yeah, they can go to rugby
union, go play for RugbyAustralia, or go over to Japan
and make some good dollars.
But a big risk.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (05:52):
Yeah, it's a massive risk, especially
if you haven't played RugbyUnion before, but it's, it's
definitely not the same game andit doesn't translate as easily
as what people think.
Look, it does to the playersthat have played it before, more
than anything, even Matt Rogers,he, he went to a rugby union
school.
He grew up playing rugby unionmore than he played rugby
league, despite who his fatherwas.

(06:15):
that was in the book I read ofhis, know, saying that it was
actually a goal of his to playin the World Cup and that,'cause
he grew up playing rugby union,so that's why those sort of
players, they transition a loteasier.
But as you've seen with BenjiMarshall and stuff like that,
it's not so easy for them.
So.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (06:35):
Yeah.
speaking of union, the rugbyleague and Rugby league, the
union, all the boys got off onthe plane to go away on tour,
out of the ashes Wanita.
Wase turns up with his RugbyAustralia suitcase to go on a k
go

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (06:51):
seen that.
Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (06:53):
You,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025 (06:54):
I see that they're all, they're
all filling me at the airport.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (06:57):
that.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (06:58):
Yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (06:58):
Can't be doing that.
You still got a contract nextyear

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (07:01):
yeah, yeah.
So

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (07:04):
if he's paying as well?

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (07:05):
What are they gonna do?
really if he, what if, if theysaid, oh no, we're gonna, we're
gonna find your son too easy.
He just leaves and goes back torugby union.
he's gonna get picked upstraight away.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (07:19):
just as well next year as what he did
this year, I'm still picking himfor the blues.
straight up.
I don't, I don't care.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-202 (07:25):
Oh yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (07:26):
like, know,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (07:28):
Yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (07:29):
still got a contract with rugby
league.
So you pick your best players.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (07:32):
even

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (07:33):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (07:33):
he was going and then,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (07:35):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (07:36):
he, he took care of his own state of
origin career,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (07:39):
Yeah.
Well,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-202 (07:40):
He took Walsh's head off.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (07:42):
Which he,

zach-host190_1_10-15-202 (07:43):
packed Walsh's head in a bag and took
it with him.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (07:46):
at the moment, it seemed to have
woke him up, to be honest.
So he is killing it.
Really?
So,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (07:51):
I wish somebody had take his
fingernails though.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (07:54):
no, I, there's a bloke at work, then
his daughter paints hisfingernails for him, and I'm
like, look at him.
I'm like, you know, you gottoenails, right?
And he's like, I didn't think ofthat.
I'm like, because

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (08:06):
Yeah, that's,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (08:08):
used to do it, we play fifa and if
you got beat by Neil, you had topaint your toenails.
And we used to do it all the

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (08:14):
yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (08:14):
got, kept a nil, you'd start with
your toenails and you had towork up, just depending on how
many games we played.
So,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15 (08:21):
That's why you always used to lose, was
it?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (08:23):
no.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2 (08:24):
actually it does make sense when you line
up with Mardi Gras

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (08:28):
Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (08:29):
I, I thought it was funny when
Zach's sitting there playing thegame and he got a breakaway on
the game and he is laying on melounge.
Next minute he fell off melounge because he's done a hemi
sitting on me lounge in reallife.
Missed the goal.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (08:41):
I did.
I did cramp up.
Well,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (08:44):
He's a cramp mid freaking break in
the game, and he just fell tothe floor like shit.
I'm like, fuck just happened.
He got a cramp.
He pulled a hemi

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (08:53):
so

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (08:54):
fuck.
So,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (08:55):
you, it was about the 18th hour we
played that.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (08:59):
yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that was when, when FIFAwas good.
So, no, it's still good.
Still all right.
It's not too bad.
But back when we were right intoit, because I think it was all,
I played there for a while, but,I don't think the threat will go
very far.
I think it'll just take oneplayer to test it, to find out

(09:19):
that it, you know,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (09:22):
Well,

the-incoherent-podcast_ (09:22):
legally they don't

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (09:23):
Well, that's the thing.
What, what happens if you see,well, two of us is pretty much
nearly locked in for it.
You could say that.
Go, he's, he's coming to the endof his career.
Good on him for going andgetting the big money if he's
gonna do it.
What about if say Kimm wants todo it,

the-incoherent-podcas (09:44):
contract.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (09:45):
they gonna, are they, but Yeah.
But are they gonna turn aroundand say, no, you're not allowed
back for 10 years.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (09:52):
It doesn't have 10 years left.
In him,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (09:53):
No.
He is only got,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (09:54):
be somebody like dry,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (09:57):
What?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (09:58):
gray, or.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (09:59):
What?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (09:59):
I don't think Cleary asked to, he
hasn't got any reason to comeback.
If he did go,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (10:04):
Well, I did,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (10:05):
I.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (10:05):
read something the other day about
theory and how they're gonna tryand entice him is they wanna get
him in a Europeans area so hecan be closer to Mary Fowler.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (10:18):
Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (10:19):
So

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (10:19):
did see a pretty funny, see the
photo of him proposing the otherday and then someone took the
photo and pulled up and said,Nico Hines has just just been
proposed to on Nathan Cleary andit actually looked like it was
Nico Hines.
It was pretty funny.
Like all in good humor, butyeah.
But I think if he does go,that's what, that's what he's
got going for him.

(10:39):
Go see the world and stuff.
He's already done everything inrugby league, so he doesn't
necessarily need to come back hedid go and if he get a big
payday, so, but like I, like Isaid, the other players,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (10:54):
big payday under the super league
too, like.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (10:57):
oh yeah.
Yep.
But it just depends wherethey're at at their career.
Like they, they'd understandwhat both of their careers are
and where it's about, it's at aswell.
So,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (11:08):
No.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (11:09):
know, it's just one of those things,
you know, I, I think Adam Elliotand Millie Elliot have done the
long distancing pretty well.
And then there's um, what's hisname?
Jensen from the Broncos.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (11:24):
Yeah, he

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (11:25):
Yeah.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (11:26):
Corey Jansen.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (11:27):
in North

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (11:27):
he's still in Townsville and he is
just, yeah, she's just like,yeah, just go do your career and
what's another couple of years.
So, you know, there's someunderstanding people out there,
so.
Yeah.
Cory Parker said the other daythat fucking the PM 13 game
doesn't matter anymore.
I, I still like seeing it, butnot like it was played this

(11:50):
year.
'cause normally it's played withthe teams that are outside the
eight, their players getselected, not the teams well
playing in the Grand Final.
At least they don't, they don'tget to play in it.
this year they did have theplayers from the grand Final
playing in it.
sort of a reward to those up andcoming young players, should
they look at doing it in adifferent way and have it as

(12:12):
like an under 20 fives orsomething?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (12:15):
I don't mind it.
The players that, sort of aren'tin that top Australian squad, I
mind

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (12:22):
Hmm.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (12:22):
them being able to play.
But it, it was, it was a betterspectacle I thought when Yeah,
it was the players from theoutside, the top eight, giving
them something to still strivefor.
I mean, yeah, but if you'regonna pick, like this year you

(12:43):
got that Australian.
S team and then you still picka, a second 11 or prime
minister's 11 to play in anotherseries.
Well, it's, it's a reward topush all the NRL players really.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (13:00):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (13:00):
as internationals grow, you could
expand on it so that you do gotyour first 11 and your second 11
teams.
'cause there is enough playersrunning around

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (13:12):
Yeah.
Like sort of like Australia Aand b, A and that.
So yeah, I think you can do, Ithink it can be used as a
development sort of thing,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (13:21):
Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (13:22):
so.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (13:22):
And going to it under 20 threes,
they trolled that a few yearsago ago.
and then sort of, it was, yeah,one off and then they went away
from it pretty quick.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (13:31):
Oh

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (13:33):
Well, that's the thing.
look at that under 20 threes ifyou do do it.
Most of the players that are inthe.
B side could play in the B

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (13:40):
yeah, you look

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (13:41):
side.
Anyway,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (13:41):
if they, I read, I think it was on
Clark, he's column there, he hadthe under 23, so, and there was
four or five of them alreadypicked in that Australian squad
anyway, a few others that arenow playing internationals for
other, other countries.
But it's that development sideof things.

(14:02):
I think it's, be good for thegame and it'll be good to build
that international base.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (14:08):
yeah.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15 (14:10):
that's ev, that's even people blowing
up about, Kev Wilders, pickingmostly the Queensland side or,
or the grand final sides and allthat.
But like he said, he goes, hewants the best players for the,
for the.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (14:24):
well Queensland did win state of
origin, so you can, you canstill pick'em, like can look at
that anyway.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15 (14:35):
That's right.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (14:35):
it was no different to the nineties
when you look

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (14:38):
No,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (14:39):
side and them turned around and
played for Queensland and thenwent on to play for Australia at
the back end of the year.
And,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (14:47):
Yeah, I, I still remember when the
Australian teams were majorityof the grand final team

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (14:52):
yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (14:52):
like it was just a few players from
each team, pretty much.
And there was no extra ones.
And now they're all worriedabout the incumbents and all
that stuff.
So, but I still think that, Istill think the Prime Minister's
13 has a place in the game.
They just might have to reformatit a little bit if they're gonna
be playing more internationals.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (15:09):
yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (15:10):
it's, I think it's important to go
over and play in Papua NewGuinea like that each year.
It's only gonna help themdevelop.
So even though they've got anNRL team coming in, but.
Which, good segue to the nextthing.
P and g are the chiefs.
Like the Chiefs.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (15:25):
Yeah.
I like to know.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (15:26):
Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (15:26):
I'm, I'm, I'm happy with the name,
the other name there was thePythons.
So

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (15:30):
So,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (15:30):
I would prefer the Chiefs to the
Pythons.
And you know, the, oh, what isit, prime Minister or the leader
for p and g is, he, he said thatit translates to both women and
men when, when they have a womanwomen's team come in.
So,'cause they have women chiefsover there, so, yeah, I think, I
think that's pretty good.
And it'll suit'em well or seewhat the colors and stuff are

(15:53):
and, yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (15:55):
think they venture away from those.
Yeah, it'll be much.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (16:00):
Well I'm not, I'm not a hundred
percent sure if they are orthey're not, to be honest.
because you got the bears comingin, they're red and black, so,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (16:08):
Yeah.
But the p and g, it's not a, areal red color.
It's that.
Yeah.
It's got that orange.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-1 (16:15):
Reddish Orange.
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (16:17):
I don't mind the p and g Hunters

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (16:20):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (16:21):
Yeah.
Even,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (16:23):
Yeah.
That's the thing.
They're more, they're moreish,orange, yellow, and black.
Really?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (16:26):
it's they, they're not bad colors.
And I mean, if they've alreadyit submitted, well, it'll just a
waiting game to see

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (16:36):
Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-20 (16:36):
whether they go ahead with it or not.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (16:39):
yeah.
And from what I've seen as well,they come in in 28, but there is
a chance that it could getpushed back to 29 maybe.
So I'm guessing they'll get thebeers launched, set up p and g,
and I'm guessing they're gonnaannounce the 20th team'cause I
think they're going full steamahead with it.

(16:59):
But hopefully the as a generalthing doesn't, doesn't lack
because of it, because it'lltake some time to build

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (17:07):
Hmm,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (17:08):
up to be able to accommodate those
teams with so many coming in.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15 (17:12):
that's right.
the NRL gonna be ready to likethe bears?
They're not gonna be red hotstraight away.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (17:21):
that about the dolphins

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (17:22):
you gonna they're, yeah, but see the
dolphins, it, it took the firstseason for everyone to start.
people jumped on the bandwagon.
'cause they're a new team in thecomp.
But if you are gonna have thebears come next year, people
jump on that and then they go,oh, righto, now we're gonna
throw in the chiefs the yearafter.
yeah, they're trying to, I thinkthey're just trying to let the

(17:43):
bears settle in first and thenbring the chiefs in.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (17:47):
Yeah, the 2028 was already released
before they said that the bearswere coming in, so.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (17:54):
And that was because of setting

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (17:55):
Yeah.

the-incoherent-p (17:55):
infrastructure and getting ready for the team
to come in, so,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (17:59):
Bit

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (18:00):
you know,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (18:00):
that 20th team though, like setting
it up, if they do decide to goover second New Zealand side,
they've, they've got theinfrastructure over there.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (18:11):
The same as Perth, that they can,
they can take the next 12 monthsjust to organize players.
They've already got me onMeninga there.
They're already getting, CEOsand all that all in place.
'cause they can't sign playersuntil the 1st of November.
So

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (18:25):
yeah, well, Mel wants to have players
signed and in stone beforeChristmas break, whether they're
grade starters or fringeplayers.
But he wants 10 out of his top30 signed before Christmas, so.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (18:44):
yeah.
I've got, I've got some opinionson that, but I'll leave it
until, another two weeks andwe'll do a, a Bears episode on
what our thoughts on what theyshould do and what they should
be looking at to be successful.
So, yeah,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (19:00):
Ano.
Another thing I heard Devo onthe way home.
I'll throw this out.
It is.
And see what you think.
the Knights coach, no, not theKnights coach, Titans coach and
I,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (19:10):
Yeah.
I know where you're going.
Yeah.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (19:13):
he, he, he signed for the three
years, but they've said if yeah,there's clause, if Bellamy
leaves Melbourne, he can be thehead coach the following year.
What do you think about that?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (19:28):
I don't think Bellamy will take up
the offer.
'cause I don't think bellamy'sthe sort of person to step on
somebody else like that.
I could see him going into ahead of football sort of role
and stepping away from thecoaching, like still have a bit
of a hands-on role, but not thefull-on But, you know, anything
can happen in rugby league.
He's said before that he'sretiring at the end of the year

(19:51):
and then goes another 12 months.
So, and it depends.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (19:54):
Well, that's all he does.
Just 12 months

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (19:56):
Oh,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (19:57):
time.

the-incoherent-podcast_1 (19:57):
signed for longer than that.
He just, it's for whenever hewants to pull up stumps.
Basically he was signed eight,like an eight year deal or
something and it's when he wantsto pull up stumps, so, yeah.
It'll be one of those thingswhere we probably won't know
till the end of next year or thestart of the season after what's

(20:17):
gonna happen there.
But I could see him going upthere and living with his family
and all that and you know, doinga more office sort of role in
that head football managementand doing the recruiting and
stuff like that, and buildingthe team from the outside.
So could team doing that

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (20:37):
yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (20:38):
more.
A mentor.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (20:39):
see him go out a winner,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (20:41):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (20:42):
I was kind of expecting.
If Melbourne won the Grand Finala couple weeks ago, I was yeah,
half expecting Bellamy to turnaround and say I'm actually
retiring.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (20:55):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (20:56):
I think he deserves, he's had
that, career and he deserves togo outer winner if he

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (21:02):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (21:03):
He's also had a pretty damn well good
career that he's, he's

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (21:08):
Yeah, you can't.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (21:09):
that he deserves and yeah, I kind of
agree if he does go to theTitans or the Dolphins or
Brisbane or whoever he goes towhen he goes back to Queensland,
because I think he bought ahouse up there not long

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (21:23):
Yeah.
He bought a, he bought anapartment, a three and a half
million dollar apartment in theGold Coast.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (21:29):
when, when he does go back home, I
think, yeah, he, I don't thinkhe into another coaching role.
He,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (21:39):
Uh, no, I, I'd like to see it, to
see like how good he is if hecan turn the Titans around, but
I don't, don't see happening asa coach.
I think it'd be more a mentorsort of role for Hannah.
and it'd only benefit Hannah tobe honest.
But there's a lot of coachesthat have come outta that

(22:00):
Melbourne system that are notdoing too bad.
So we weren't

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-202 (22:05):
It is a bit of a kick in the guts,
isn't it really?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (22:08):
If Hannah signed the contract and
it was already stipulated, it'snot

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (22:12):
yeah, he would've known,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025 (22:14):
I think, I think it's only came
out today really, because

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (22:17):
he

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15 (22:18):
that's what there's, I.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (22:19):
with that.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (22:20):
yeah, he would've

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (22:21):
Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (22:23):
Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (22:23):
a lawyer read it, he

the-incoherent-podcast_1 (22:25):
that's just, that's just,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (22:27):
it's just coming up today whenever it
was.
So it's been, now it's known toeveryone else, but

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (22:36):
yeah.
Yeah.
But it, they, it what I read onit, it said that it had a clause
that if they can get Bellamy,that they'll replace him with
Bellamy and he would've had tosign it.
If that hasn't happened, that'dbe.
The most titans thing ever tocome out and go, oh, we're gonna
take Bellamy and swap coaches totry and improve themselves.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (22:55):
All.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (22:55):
at the end of the, at the end of
the day, you can have all thebest players in the, in the NRL
playing for the one team doesn'tmean they'll all get along and
play together.
Well, have the right sort ofpeople in place to be able to,
to play well.
So, but, whole KR won the SuperLeague.
Apparently they're still tryingto push to get the World Club

(23:17):
Challenge, whether it's the weekbefore Vegas or trying to work
something out so that they canstill play it, but it looks more
likely it's not gonna happen.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (23:26):
Can't be

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (23:27):
But

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (23:28):
round one.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (23:30):
yeah, I still, I still reckon that
it's, it needs to be played now

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (23:35):
It should be played this weekend.
And there's no reason that

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (23:39):
It should be played this weekend in
England after the Grand Final.
We've had two weeks off totravel, and you can go over and
you can play it.
It should be played this week.
But they're not doing that.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (23:49):
I don't about him playing in
England is their dead balllines.
And it always affects thekicking game of any Australian
team that's gone over there.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (24:00):
well, every individual club has their
own dimensions and stuff for afield, so I think, I think
Melbourne have a narrower deadbull line than what everyone
else does.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (24:09):
but if, it just, none of them are
gonna be the same size asBrisbane's.
But I, I do agree.
I think if they went over therenow and played it, the week bef
in between their grand final andthe Ashes series.
And then Broncos players orwhoever wins the Grand Final in

(24:33):
Australia go off to theirrespective country's

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (24:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like it does, it does push theinternational game back though,
doing it that way.
That's all.
So,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (24:47):
Well, no, because the, it only pushes
the, the Tongans and that back,but

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (24:53):
yeah.
But if you, if Australia wasn'tgonna England, they'd be playing
in Australia and even that one,two weeks at this time of year,
it gets more hot, it's more a,they'll be doing like quarters
because they'll be doing drinksbreaks and all that stuff, which
is kind of annoying you watchit, when it's too hot and they
do that stuff.
It's a good thing that they doit, it just, it interrupts the

(25:15):
flow of the game I find.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (25:18):
you have drinks, break every three
sets'cause the referees aregonna give away a penalty for
fucking something stupid.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (25:25):
I seen the England team get
released and AJ Brimson playingin there.
There's a couple of other NRLplayers playing in there, but
the Brimson one to me, he onlyplayed origin three years ago
and now he's playing forEngland.
No one's battered an eyelid, butas soon as they want people
playing for New South Wales andQueensland, if they're relevant,

(25:45):
they want to kick and screamthat they're not playing for
Australia.
So does that whole tier thingeven matter anymore?

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (25:52):
not really.
Like,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (25:53):
I'd be, I'd be happy for Brimson to
still play for Queensland nextyear if they needed him.
'cause you can know that they'llfind a way to put him in there
either way.
But

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (26:02):
well, that, well, that's the thing.
You look at, look at, new SouthWales five eight with Samoa,
blue Eye.
Victor Radley, he didn't getpicked for Australia there one
year, so he went to England

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (26:13):
East,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (26:14):
and played for them.

the-incoherent-podcast_ (26:15):
origin, but he's probably the one that
think about.
Well, he grew up in Australia.
He is playing for his heritagein England.
Just the same as what theSamoans and the Tongans are.
But they can still play origin.
Why can't he go play for hisheritage?

zach-host190_1_10-15-20 (26:28):
welders pretty well nailed it when he
said he wants the best players.
As a fan, the fans wanna see thebest players playing origin,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (26:37):
yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (26:38):
they wanna see best players playing
international football for theirinternational teams.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (26:45):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (26:46):
do with the whole New South Wales,
do you just go back to.
Where you first played or madeyour grade debut.
So if you make your grade debutin Queensland, doesn't

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (27:00):
I don't think you can do,

zach-host190_1_10-15-20 (27:02):
doesn't matter

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (27:02):
yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (27:03):
side you play for, are eligible to
play for Queensland or New South

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (27:08):
Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (27:09):
and it just gets rid of the whole
tier system.
Then they can just for whateverinternational, whoever they
wanna defer to.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (27:16):
I think if you've lived in
Australia before you were 12,add Blake, he grew up in Sydney.
He was born in Sydney, but heplaced for New Zealand.
I think he should still be ableto play for New South Wales.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (27:27):
You can pay your junior football,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (27:29):
yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-202 (27:29):
really matter.
That's why I think if you makeit where your grade debut is, if
you make your grade debut

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (27:37):
yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (27:37):
on the other side of the border up
in Canto country,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (27:41):
yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (27:42):
play for cantos.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (27:44):
yeah.
No, no.
That could work.
That could work.
I, I, I'd rather see the cutoffif you are living here before
you're 12.

zach-host190_1_10-15-202 (27:52):
Victor Radley used to play the Tamal
Lolo's to go and play forQueensland.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (27:57):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (27:57):
Yeah, it, there's

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (28:00):
Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-1 (28:00):
controversy around that rule

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (28:03):
I,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (28:03):
of

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (28:03):
I, I think they're gonna get rid of
it.
I think it's just gonna be afree for all because the Tongans
and the Samoans are just takingthe players at the end of the
year anyway, so you're not, andyou're not losing that much.
So we just said that you couldhave an Australia B team that'd
be still a decent team, oryou're not losing as much as
what you think you are.
So, and then, you know, it makesit more competitive.

(28:26):
It makes it more watchable.
It's not as watchable when yougo, oh no, Australia's got all
the good players because theyplay origin.
no other country has the origin.
They don't have the intensity oforigin and those big games like
that

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (28:38):
Well,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (28:39):
to be able to learn off.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (28:40):
New Zealand's second team comes in.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (28:43):
Yeah.
Or sort of.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (28:46):
but like we've discussed before,
during that origin period, I,you can quite easily have a buy
period within the NRL and haveit as an international break.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (28:59):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2 (29:00):
Tongans, if you don't get picked for New
South Wales or Queensland andyou still wanna represent your
heritage,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (29:07):
Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (29:08):
to still play representative
football and those like the,games this weekend between Tonga
and all them, they could beplayed during the year.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (29:21):
yeah, yeah.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-202 (29:24):
So on that origin.
Right.
I just thought of it.
Then.
If New Zealand did bring in theother team and they'd done the
origin, it'd be north versussouth.
Obviously you play one game inNorth, one game in South.
Do you bring one over toAustralia and then for New South
Wales and Queensland, do you doone in Queensland?
One New South Wales, one in NewZealand.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (29:45):
of taking a game to New Zealand in
a couple of years.
They're negotiating to do it, so

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (29:51):
I,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (29:51):
I, I don't think it should,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (29:53):
the line.
I do not, I don't even like it.
Gonna Melbourne.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (29:57):
I, I don't have a problem with it.
Gonna Melbourne and Perth andall that.
you're just trying to build thegame with the biggest spectacle.
it's the biggest thing thatthey've got to offer.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (30:05):
Yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (30:05):
Like,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (30:05):
they, they're not part of state of
origin.
State of

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (30:08):
yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (30:09):
is New South Wales, first
Queensland.
if New Zealand do go down thatline of having a south versus
north, well, but they've gotthree big, pretty good decent
parks where they could draw inmassive crowds.
You

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (30:23):
yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (30:24):
at Decider, played at Eden Park

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (30:27):
yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (30:27):
a drizzly Wednesday night or

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (30:30):
They won't, they won't, they won't
put a decider there.
It'll be game two or game one.
Probably game two.
It'll be the same as what theydo now.
They play the first one you needto Sydney or Brisbane, and then
the second one's played ineither Perth or Adelaide or
Melbourne.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (30:46):
Yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (30:47):
do a decider there.
The decider will go alternativeevery year.
So, but you gotta have adecider.
But they do do that second gamebecause it's still up for grabs.
It's not a dead rubber.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (30:57):
Eden Park still, it's, yeah.
It's neutral ground.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (31:04):
no,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (31:05):
yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (31:06):
we they reckon they take a origin
game.
Look, game one of Origin, takeit to Vegas at the beginning of
the year.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (31:13):
How

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (31:13):
You see'em doing that?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (31:15):
how do you pick your players on it?
you got, you got a lot ofplayers still just sort of on
the back end of recoveries, justgetting ready for one, makes it
hard

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (31:26):
I agree.
I agree.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (31:28):
so.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (31:29):
if you want to, if you want to, if
you want to figure and showcasethe Americans what the best of
your sport is, that's whatyou're taking.
I know they've taken it therebefore.
I know it's happened before.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (31:39):
just do Australia versus New Zealand.
That's a, that'd be a good gamefor'em because

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (31:44):
I wanna,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (31:45):
they just, they just like going out
and hurting each other.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (31:47):
I would like to see the ANZAC test
come back.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (31:50):
I actually like, union did it when
the line's done the tour, they'ddone an Anzac team where it was
made up of Australians andZealanders, just the one team
made up of the two countries andthey played as Anzacs against
the British lines.
But I think he could do that inrugby

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (32:04):
Hmm.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (32:05):
I reckon that'd be a

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (32:06):
Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1 (32:07):
pretty good game, to be honest, if they
got it off the ground.
Like you're stealing some, anidea from Rugby Union, I
actually really like that ideaand I was thinking that the
other day.
That'd be a pretty cool concept.
if you did like an Anzac versusthe British Lines, you got the
best of Super League and thebest of the NRL playing against
each other in America, you'regonna get the same sort of

(32:28):
result, I think.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (32:30):
I don't think you do.
I think the Australian NewZealand sided what the park with
'em and Yeah.
I don't think the, the fans inAmerica really need to see it.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (32:43):
yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (32:44):
Like if they, if England come out in
this Ashes series and BeatAustralia two, one or three nil
and then they can beat NewZealand in the World Cup next
year, you'd probably considerdoing a combined squad.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (33:01):
yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (33:02):
But I, I don't think England
competes with either Australiaor New Zealand

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (33:07):
On their own.

zach-host190_1_10-15-202 (33:08):
couple of years, or even in the next
few years.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (33:11):
Yeah, but British, British Lines is a
bit different'cause you'readding all those other to it as
well.
It's not just England.
There's a few NRL players thatplay for like Island or

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (33:23):
Yeah.
Well, you

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (33:23):
you know,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (33:24):
yeah, a

the-incoherent-podcast_1 (33:24):
Wales.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (33:25):
play for Italy and that, but

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (33:27):
Well, you're not gonna include Italy
in a English thing.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (33:30):
No, I'm just saying you've got those
couple players playing for othercountries, but England.
Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcas (33:40):
Something to think about.
Anyway, I think it'd be a prettycool concept to get off the
ground if you could find someoneto play if it was a combined
Pacific Islands team against theAnzacs

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (33:52):
Yeah.
Well, that'd be a bit different.

the-incoherent-podcast (33:55):
combined Tonga and Papua New Guinea, Cook
Islands, Fiji.
That'd be, that'd probably worktoo.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (34:03):
So be a lot of.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (34:06):
You'd probably be best off.
Yeah, you'd be best off just tokeep that in Australia.
Really.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (34:10):
Yeah, I did mean a lot more to us.
I'm just thinking with just waysto showcase things without
taking origin there.
I know that the a FL are doingtheir origin before the season
starts, and they're worriedabout people just pulling out.
So I would be interested to seehow that goes.
Anyway, I'll be watching that,but, whole KR won the Super

(34:31):
League pretty convincingly, likeI said before, but the, the
funny thing I've seen out of itis Jared Warri Hargroves has
been suspended for four gamesafter he retired.
So he suspended for life and heis the most suspended NR role
player ever.
Although that was pretty cool

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (34:47):
Yeah, I see that.

the-incoherent-podcast_ (34:48):
that's, that's a pretty, that's a fair
effort to be honest.
yeah.
the, A-League starts this week.
If he's got any tips on theA-League.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (34:57):
I've been thinking

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (34:59):
Did it.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (35:00):
I'm either, I'm either gonna go,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (35:01):
deal.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-202 (35:02):
it did actually,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (35:03):
you?
I've seen you think before.
It doesn't end well.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-202 (35:07):
it was either the Jets or the
Central Coast Mariners I wasthinking about.
And they play the first game,don't they?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (35:12):
to Rrb first game.
Consider it's not called the Fthree anymore.
Don't they have a little pieceof concrete out of the F three
that they use as a trophy orsomething?

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (35:21):
The, there used to be a sign on the
side of the road saying you arenow entering Jets, jets area, or
Jets country and that, and Ithink it was the, central Coast
blokes, they got out there andthey took photos and like put
shit all over it on the way tothe game.
That was a few years ago.

zach-host190_1_10-15-202 (35:42):
dunno, I don't, I think the Jets played
well during the cup.
They won the cup, but I thinkthey, they leading their fans
into a bit of a false

the-incoherent-podcast_ (35:54):
They've got, they've got some good kids
coming through to be honest.
And they do.
They've got,

zach-host190_1_10-15-202 (35:59):
plenty of good kids over the years and
yeah, it,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (36:03):
yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (36:04):
takes one or two injuries through the
middle of that park and.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (36:10):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (36:10):
or break a season.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (36:12):
And they do, they have a trophy
that's a concrete core sampleahead of the F three and it's
part of a trophy that goes thatwhichever team wins it.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (36:22):
So

the-incoherent-podcast_1 (36:23):
That's pretty cool.
So I'll just had a look at itthen.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, have you got anything elsefor sport other than the Raven
suck and I'm starting to get.

zach-host190_1_10-15-20 (36:36):
Ravens.
Yeah, they do suck.
We, we discussed this the otherweek and you were all four.
The Ravens are gonna turn itaround.
They're gonna win the league and

the-incoherent-podcast_ (36:44):
They've had players out, players come
back, they'll sort it out.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (36:48):
I think

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (36:49):
And if Fells and f Fells a funny
thing, it's, it's no differentthan a rugby that's no different
to a NRL.
You make those finals and youcan make your own destiny.
Anything can happen.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (36:58):
And INL is a very short season
compared to the, NRL.
So

the-incoherent-podcast_ (37:03):
They've only got, they've only gotta
find, they've only gotta findthemselves in a World card spot
and they could be on a run.
So I'm not giving up yet.
I'll give up when they're notyet.
So,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (37:13):
So win the wooden spoon for their
conference.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (37:17):
they, they, the, the Buccaneers are
going all right.
To be honest, I quite rate theBuccaneers to this year

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (37:24):
so

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (37:24):
doing really well.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (37:26):
other than sort of those main things,
Socceroos Yeah.
Played the I don't even knowwhat Canada's nickname is or,
yeah, they played Canada

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (37:38):
We will just say maple leaves.
They're always the maple leaves.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (37:41):
well, maple Bacons,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (37:43):
Maple Bacons.
I love maple bacon.
Have you ever had maple bacon?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (37:48):
I

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (37:48):
I it on the cruise last year.
Oh, it's fucking good.
I even like the streaky bacon

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (37:53):
Yeah, no, I

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (37:54):
they have.
It's fucking good.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (37:55):
it at all.
No, I, I like

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (37:57):
I love it.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (37:57):
a big bacon believer,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (37:59):
You look like bacon.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (38:01):
so.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (38:02):
You look,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (38:03):
I do love baking.
Yes.
So, but yeah.
So Socceroos one year win,looking good for their World Cup
campaign next year, but they'resitting on, well, they're
qualified already.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (38:19):
yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (38:19):
top of their table

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (38:21):
Yep.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (38:22):
five

the-incoherent-podcas (38:22):
hopefully they get a good group and not a
group of death that they seem toget every World Cup.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (38:28):
Yeah.
Well, think, I still thinkthere's a lot of, a lot of
distance between Australiansoccer and the rest of the
world, but,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (38:39):
Yeah.
Or, yeah, you can look at itthat way.

zach-host190_1_10-15-202 (38:41):
there.

the-incoherent-podcast_1 (38:42):
every, every group's a group of death
for Australia most of the time.
So

zach-host190_1_10-15-202 (38:47):
That's right.
And we I've, yeah, I've seen inthe past, you only need to
finish top two and you get alucky goal and go keep on
advancing.
But as long as Italy don't takea dive and rip us off again,
well yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_ (39:03):
there's some drama in soccer sometimes.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (39:06):
Yep.
No, it certainly is.
other than that as well, thebloody women's T 20 Cricket is,
they're on fire.
Another win.
They, they probably should gothrough and win that T 20 World
Cup, Australian, AustralianBatten lineup.
They, they just bat from onethrough to 11.

(39:27):
The bowling lineups.
Yeah.
They compete against some of themen's teams,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (39:34):
Um, oh, David Warner saying if Pat
Cummins didn't make the team,that he doesn't see Australia
going too well without him.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (39:44):
Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (39:45):
Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (39:46):
David Warner also said that Australia
were playing for the Ashes andING England were playing for
pride.
So bit of ter.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (39:55):
I don't think, yeah, leaving
Cummins, he's a good captain,but seen when he is been out
before and Steve Smith just slotstraight back in there and yeah,
nothing really changes there.
we do lose that extra bat sortof that number eight role,
Scotty Bowling will come in,you'd think, and he adds just as

(40:21):
much to that bowling lineup asCummins does and mean if I'm
England Batten line up, I'mpretty scared'cause they gotta
go back to the G face.
Scotty

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (40:33):
Well, I don't, I don't think, England
are scared'cause Stuart Broadsaid that it's the worst
Australian team since 2010

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (40:40):
yeah, but we've heard that in the past
too.
And Queensland had the worstorigin team ever and they come
out and flog New South Wales.
Stuart Broad's been involved insome good England sides and he's
been involved in some prettyhorrendous England sides.
So yeah, he probably, sheepshould keep his mouth shut.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (41:04):
Yeah.
Reckon they reckon they pickedcones.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (41:08):
No,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (41:09):
No,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (41:10):
no, I don't think he does.
I

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (41:12):
not ready.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (41:13):
out.
I think watching a few shellgames, I would really like to
see Matt Renshaw open the, openthe baton with

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (41:24):
Do you see him taking him as like a
12, 12 million type thing or

zach-host190_1_10-15-202 (41:28):
still,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (41:29):
the experience?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (41:30):
he'll be within the squad.
and I just, I don't know whenhe, he come out that first game,
he scored his 50 and then triedto replicate it every

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (41:42):
Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (41:42):
he battered.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (41:44):
yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (41:44):
I was reading a really good
article, and there's not enoughbatsmen in the Australian side
at the moment that just wannastay out there and bat Steve
Smith wants to bat and he wantsto bat all day.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (41:58):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (41:58):
you lose that now.
Warner could, school runs quick,but he could also hold the stick
and all day.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (42:06):
just comes with experience though.
he never, it wasn't always likethat.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (42:10):
but he turned his 10 into 20 and 20
into 50 more often than hedidn't.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (42:18):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (42:19):
And but Warner, he batted the same
way across all three formats andI think Constance, and that's
the worst thing with T 20Cricket, it's rule and test
cricket batsman.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (42:32):
Yeah.
Yep.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (42:34):
So

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (42:35):
I, I'd agree with that.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (42:36):
Matt Renshaw, who he holds a bat
well, and I mean, it's, it's ahard one.
There's a lot of good.
Bats, even to see, Pattersonfrom New South Wales.
He's been batting well.
Whether he

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (42:54):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (42:54):
up or not, they might look to
somebody that's already beenthere.
So, somebody said about, but hemanus the bat and Cameron,
Cameron Green's going to three.
So, yeah, I don't know.
There's a few options there, butyeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (43:16):
Do you reckon the one, do you
reckon the one wicked Wonderwill get a, get a run on?

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (43:21):
I'm too good for them.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (43:23):
might get a run back in Cessna.
I did

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (43:28):
I, I don't,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (43:28):
the

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (43:29):
I can't even,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (43:29):
I knew any players.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (43:31):
I can't even hold a straight face
and say, Hoover and run in thesame sentence.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (43:35):
Yeah, I'll just, I, I don't run, I
just, yeah, it's just boundaryor nothing.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (43:40):
of the, one of the blokes at work
told me the other day that I'llbe, it, it's a good walk down in
my daughter's daycare.
I'm like, man, I don't even walkto the letterbox.
Like I drive past that to go inthe door.
and it's only just there, seewhat happens.
But yeah, I think that's justabout it for sport.
I, with games, I've beensmashing Battlefield Six since

(44:01):
it came out and dead set.
Battlefield is back where it waswhen Battlefield won come out.
I can honestly say that thecampaign's good.
It's a good story, good to playthrough.
I haven't finished the campaignyet.
You can delete the, the campaignso that you can save up storage
on your PlayStation.
You're not taking up too muchstorage with it and still play

(44:22):
the multiplayer.
And the multiplayer is just theoutstanding graphically.
It's the outstanding.
explosions, the progression onweapons and all of that stuff.
It, it really is an unbelievablegame.
haven't played a cod in a while,but, black Ops seven comes out
the on November 14 and it'll bejust good to see how they

(44:44):
compare.
'cause Battlefield obviouslydoesn't get released every year
like COD does.
they've got that going for'em aswell.
But I think, people sat down andactually played it properly,
'cause you get all the codplayers in there trying to play
it and run and gun and stuff.
But if you go in and actuallyplay the objective like you're
supposed to in these sort ofgames, that a really, really

(45:04):
enjoyable game.
Especially if you've got a squadof boys that want to get on, or
a squad of people that want toget on and have a few beers and
a few drinks and have a bit of alaugh.
It's a, it's a really good gameand I would, I would really
recommend it to be honest.
Like I was, I was blown away byit, if I'm being honest.
yeah, just need one of you boysto get either a PlayStation or

(45:27):
the game.
But, but why, why are you, whyare you holding me out on
Battlefield Six Act?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (45:35):
I'm not, I'm just broke.
yeah, business owners don't haveheaps of money like people say.
But anyway,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (45:44):
what, what do you find this way?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (45:45):
nah, big game I'm looking forward to
is Cricket 26.
I've always, always enjoyed mecricket games, back to Shane
Moore, 99.
but they've released.
this one will have a pro teams,have a manager mode.

(46:06):
It's got a more in depth ashesseries and career campaign
amongst it.
Like manager mode.
You Yeah, it, I can't wait forthat.
Like you go right back.
Scout Juniors coming through thesystems and Yeah, it's just
gonna be a more in depth game.

(46:27):
It's, I think November 20release date, so a couple weeks
away,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (46:34):
Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (46:34):
I can't wait for that.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (46:36):
I'm actually looking forward to the
manager mode in it'cause wehaven't adequate game with the
manager mode.
Are you worried about Big antsrelease with Rugby League 26

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (46:44):
yeah, I, yeah, I still can't play
rugby league'cause it's, Idon't, I don't think it's a
complete game and I don't, yeah,I, I am a little bit worried,
but.
It.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (46:59):
It.
It has got better.

zach-host190_1_10-15-202 (47:00):
making cricket games for a while now.
They've been, they've got thatfoundation there, so

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (47:07):
Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-20 (47:08):
They've already, yeah, they've got
something to build off everyyear or every couple of years.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (47:14):
yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-20 (47:14):
they're

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (47:15):
know that.
know it's got all most of themajor and competitions in it,
but it doesn't have IPL in itbecause it'd be too expensive to
purchase probably'cause it's somassive.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (47:26):
the IPL rights are too expensive and
apparently they've got most ofthe IPL teams, but I think it's
the Register and Royals, don'thave the rights to that one.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (47:39):
Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (47:40):
don't quote me on that one, but I
think that's the team.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (47:43):
if it's anything like Rugby League
26, you'd be just able to makeyour own and put in there
anyway.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (47:47):
yeah, well they've still got the IPL,
it's just called Indian T 20 orsomething like that.
It's

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (47:54):
Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-20 (47:54):
doesn't have the IPL name.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (47:56):
yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (47:58):
So, but yeah, that's a, that's a big
game I'm looking forward to.
it

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (48:02):
I, I kind of am too.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (48:03):
after Project Motorsport, so yeah, I'm

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (48:07):
Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2 (48:08):
probably gonna have to shut the business
down for a couple of weeks toget those two games,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (48:13):
yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (48:14):
some hours in pretty quick.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (48:16):
yeah, yeah.
And whoever else work on buyinga PlayStation for his wife.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (48:22):
So,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (48:23):
Yes, I will look at one.
Can't promise anything, butyeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-202 (48:28):
buying a PlayStation is expensive at
the moment.
at the Pro

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-202 (48:34):
it is.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (48:35):
I can't justify$1,200 for it.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (48:38):
no.
You don't have to get a prothough,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (48:41):
No, you don't.
But

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (48:43):
you can just get a regular
PlayStation.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (48:45):
if you want something that's
already got all the, the updatedstuff and you want

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (48:50):
Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_1 (48:51):
and the storage and

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (48:52):
so the way that I see it, the best
way for you to play games isprobably to build your own pc,
but that's even more expensive.
Again, it's just the simplicityof I go plug in my PlayStation,
I click on the game.
I don't have to worry aboutgraphics cards.
I don't have to worry, I have toworry about storage.
But that's something that I'mworking on and I'll probably

(49:13):
just end up getting a biggerhard drive for it or, and
upgrading it a little bit.
'cause I found out it's not thatdifficult to do, but yeah.
Well, I'll, I'm happy for thesimplicity of a PlayStation Nu
so.
Because once you get into thatbuilding PCs and stuff, you are

(49:33):
talking thousands of dollars andit'll be an, I'd say, to be an
addictive thing where no matterhow good you make it, you'll
always wanna make it better.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_19 (49:42):
I, did look into it in the past,
when I was right into my rust

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (49:48):
yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (49:48):
yeah, you.
Start at four grand and go up.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (49:53):
yeah, yeah.
If anyone wants to build us a PCand just sponsor us with it,
that'd be great.
But till then,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (50:01):
Yeah, send it, send it to me.
I'll, I'll get the most use.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (50:06):
is Hoover or blood blurry on yours?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (50:08):
yeah, has

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (50:09):
Yeah.
Wait, you know, you know whenyou do, you know when you're
like watching the news and theyhave a dude's being suspected of
a crime and they like blurry outtheir face.
That's what he looks like rightnow.
Hey, he looks like a criminal.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (50:22):
Yeah, it keeps coming up on my screen.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (50:25):
comes up.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (50:25):
not stable.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (50:27):
up.
Not focused as well, buthopefully we,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (50:29):
Yeah, mine's saying app, not focus,
but mine's saying app, notstable.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (50:33):
we keep the voice messages outta
this anyway, so.
Yeah.
I'll, yeah.
Oh, well we can move on to ourpredictions for the week anyway.
So, predictions are, sponsoredby Zach's Company, cross Hair
Pipe and Excavations.
Can you tell us a little bitabout your company, Zach, where
to find you and stuff?

zach-host190_1_10-15- (50:53):
Facebook.
that's the best, best place to,to find me.
yeah, based in Northwest NewSouth Wales.
I'm a excavation company, so docivil works, stormwater, sewer
mains, water mains, Weldon.
but yeah, earthworks, a fewother bits and pieces.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (51:17):
Yeah, you go over onto the Facebook
page too, Zach's putting photosup for jobs that he's done and
stuff like that.
It looks really good.
I know one of our mates, he dugout his driveway and your
brother helped concrete and itcome up really, really good, to
be honest.
So, yeah, no, it's, it's worthchecking out, but our cross air
predictions for this week.
Who wants to start, Zach?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192 (51:40):
I did have a, a win last week with
my couple of predictions, soyeah, I guess guess I can start.
I'm gonna start with the NFL,new Tennessee Titans, the
Letting the Coach go, and thelast couple of days I'm gonna
gonna take the Patriots to beatthem, and back to the Cricket

(52:06):
England to beat New Zealand onSaturday.
it's only a one day, but to, tobuild up to that Ashes series
here in Australia.
So yeah, I think they'll be,they'll be at to start winning
some games and yeah, really,build up.
Ashes are only a month away now,so.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (52:26):
Yeah.
Hoover.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (52:29):
I've got an NFL game as well.
I've got Miami Dolphins to beatthe Cleveland Browns and my
other one is a NASCAR one.
We've gone, Cole Larson to winthe NASCAR Cup series
Championship.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (52:48):
For this week.
So you know a

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (52:51):
Yes.
Sad day.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (52:52):
a little bit about Kyle Larson
from, Speedway.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (52:56):
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's a Speedway and a Tar CWell, it's all circuit track
really for him, but yeah,Speedway and Dirt.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (53:05):
Yeah.
And a lot of those races dodifferent races.
I know Mo's racing in some 12year other thing with willpower
from the Indy cars.
So this weekend, so yeah.
my predictions for this week,I've got Samoa to beat New
Zealand.
New Zealand are the favorites,but I I think Samara will get up
over'em.
I think they've got a betterteam.

(53:27):
We've got more going for'em andmore, more players form in that
team to be honest.
got foreign at half back andBrian and bit iffy on the halves
where TGI and Lu I are, youknow, I think they're a little
bit more formable halves pairingto be honest.
and then I've got the Jets towin the F three derby and beat

(53:49):
the Mariners this week in thefirst game in the A-League.
Yeah.
And that's our predictions forthis fight.
we'll put that on and hopefullywe get a win this week.
So, yeah.
you boys got anything else?

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (54:05):
You just gotta remember, but when we
finish to press, stop and save

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (54:10):
I don't have to push.
Save it.
Guess send as soon as I pushstop

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (54:13):
Well.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (54:14):
so

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (54:15):
We've seen in the past, me and Hoover
have been saying sees later, butyou, you tend to cut that out.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (54:22):
I don't cut it out.
It doesn't come through for somereason.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (54:25):
last night you just went all out and
just cut me and Hoover outcompletely.
We've had

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (54:29):
I didn't go.
Hoover was there.
Hoover was

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (54:33):
that, that, that makes sense.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (54:35):
send you, I'll send

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2 (54:36):
That makes sense.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (54:36):
Like

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (54:37):
I'll send you the episode of what
happened.
I don't,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15- (54:40):
Yeah, that makes sense.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-1 (54:42):
I didn't cut yours out.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (54:43):
onto

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10- (54:43):
If I was cutting yours out, I
would've posted it and Iwouldn't be re-recording would
I?
Straight after work.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (54:48):
You know what?
We needed it.
We just, we just need to throwit like in between everything

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (54:54):
All.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (54:55):
and then he just has to move it.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (54:57):
Oh, well, that's it.
That's it for me anyway, so Iwill, I'll see you as next week.
What do you reckon,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (55:04):
Well, yeah, that, that's about it.
So I guess it's from me.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (55:11):
See you later.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (55:12):
ed?
Gain over here.
Don't upset.
You've been watching that

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (55:18):
What,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_1 (55:19):
gain thing.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (55:19):
No,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (55:20):
Oh,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025 (55:21):
yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (55:21):
no.
Watch it.
That is some messed up shit, allright.
Let's buy from us anyway.
Oh, no.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (55:30):
you are kidding me.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (55:32):
You took a screenshot thing again.
Fuck.
I just had a fucking heartattack.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025 (55:39):
I looked it up and I just going,
here we go.
He hasn't pressed record andhe's just pressing record now

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_ (55:45):
the, I wanted the screenshot of
Hoover all blurred out so we canput it on the Facebook page.
Crime

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10 (55:54):
All right.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-20 (55:55):
the man.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (55:56):
Yeah.
All right.
I'll stop it

Speaker 2 (56:01):
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episode of the IncoherentPodcast.
We will be back next week withanother episode talking about
the week of sport and gaming.
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(56:24):
in future episodes Till nextweek, it's from us.