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Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hello, I'm Jason from the Inca Here podcast.
Come and sit down with Zach andI as we discuss this week in
sports and.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_0 (00:25):
Here we are on the Incoherent podcast
for episode one 2.0 because Iaccidentally deleted our first
episode and had to rerecord.
So here we are.
But a lot has changed since ourlast episode that we can talk
about and we're probablyredefined the episode anyway,
it's probably a learning curvefrom it anyways, moving up to
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that.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-202 (00:49):
We are a great deal.
It's kicking back, raining uphere,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (00:53):
Yeah, well I've, got night shift in a
couple of hours, so we'll try tosmash this out and I'll start to
edit it and send it out see howwe go with this project, where
Zach and Jason we, had an ideato start this project to.
Talk about things that we enjoyin life, which is sports gaming.
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We cover, talk about a lot ofsports, a lot of, games and
stuff with our PlayStations andthat that's how we communicate.
we've, we both grew up in theHunter Valley, but we've since
moved away, a few hours fromeach other.
So bear with us.
We're doing it over theinternet.
I work in the mines, so I've gota pretty decent roster that I
can sort of work it around.
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Zach works for himself, so mightbe a bit touch, go with what he
does anyway.
So, one thing I noticed thisweek though, the Raiders getting
beat by 50 points.
Do you think that that, includesour voodoo of no team has ever
won after being beat by morethan 50 in the regular season?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (01:56):
Yeah, well, stick's in a bit of a
sticky situation down there withthat one.
But I think the Raiders, they'rea, a professional outfit and I
think they'll be the first teamto go on and break that voodoo.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (02:12):
Yeah, I, I believe so too.
I think they've earned thefavoritism to win the
competition.
but in, in saying that, lookingthrough all eight of those
teams, I, I, if any of them goon a run, any one of them could
win on the day.
even the Warriors they've gotthe Panthers at home in the
first round, but it's still abig task to go over there during
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a final series to, to beat'em.
I know they've been a bit downlately, but I think they got
most of their team back thatthey could prove an upset to be
honest.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (02:46):
Yeah, well, big tasker Penrith to go
over there, but I think again,Penrith too much class.
They've four in a row and beento five grand finals in recent
years that they'll, I thinkcruise past warriors, to be
honest, I don't think, I don'tthink warriors are going to do
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themselves any justice thisyear.
I think too many injuries in keypositions are gonna hurt em.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (03:13):
Yeah, well, I think the storm and the
Panthers have the experience infinals.
that's what they've got goingfor'em.
it is a, it is a completely newcompetition now.
Once, once the, once thecompetition full finishes and
you start on the finals, it's,it can be anything, you know,
like the roosters could go and arun that wouldn't surprise me.
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Panthers could go on a run quiteeasily, but I think the Storm
and the Bulldogs have proved inthe last couple of weeks, so
they're not quite there.
The Broncos, they go down andface Canberra, in the first
week, but they've still gotplayers to come back and they've
got a second fight at theCherry, so they'll probably go
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on a little bit of something aswell.
yeah, other than that, I, Ithink the competition as a whole
has been, it's been pretty good,pretty good season, to be
honest.
Like it's been fairly close upuntil the last couple of weeks.
I know those bottom three teamskind of fell away
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10 (04:11):
pretty tight the whole way through the
season and top eight only justgot finalized on the weekend
with is wrapping up.
Eight spot.
But new season now.
I'd see how everyone goes.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (04:25):
Yeah.
I'm looking forward to seeingthe first game on Friday of
storming the Bulldogs.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-202 (04:32):
It should be a good game.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09- (04:34):
Is there anything you noticed this
week that you want to talkabout?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2 (04:37):
very daily being announced as
coaching advisor for Manly andhow it's gonna affect, well, I,
how it'll affect him with theNew South Wales coaching role.
But see how that one pans out inearly next year.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (04:57):
I don't think it's gonna
necessarily affect him.
Like it's, he's in there to helpme and Lee, I think it'll be a
good contribution.
But you know, Laurie was NewSouth Wales coach up against
probably the greatest team everassembled, to be honest.
Like, as much as it hurts me tosay that.
He was a bit unlucky in thoseseasons because a lot of those
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games, a lot of those serieswere a lot closer than what
people remember as well.
So it's just one field goal orsomething away and it doesn't
look the way it is, but, youknow, they used to be able to
manage a game unbelievably, allthose players through Thirsts
and Cronk, blockier Smith, youknow, it was, it was a pretty
big task and we should reallysee that, you know, we gotta
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experience something that wasgreat, to be honest.
And that's what this is allabout.
We love sport.
We love seeing those greatmoments and I think Lori will
add something and I think it'llalso help him with, with
translating that to his NewSouth Wales role because he's
seen the ins and outs of the NRLClub, like he's done some work
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with Craig Bellamy.
This year.
that's the same sort of thing.
I'd say he'll have Craig Bellamyback doing an advisory role as
well this year.
So I think, I think it's, it'spretty positive.
I can't think of another coachthat's really outstanding for
the job anyway, for now.
So I'm, I'm happy to persistwith Laurie for another year and
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if he wants to go into the Manlysystem, I, I don't think that's
a bad thing to be quite honest.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (06:30):
I just think I look at Queensland
and their dominance with BillySlater as a coach at the moment.
And yeah, separating himselffrom the, the NRL and we seen
with Mag and how he did with,with New South Wales, when he
had no ties to any other NRLclub, it was still a lot easier
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for him just to focus on thatsort of 10 week period And
the-incoherent-podcast_1 (06:57):
Wasn't he, wasn't he still working with
Canberra during that or did heset the tights?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (07:03):
No, I'm pretty sure is just was New
South Wales only.
the-incoherent-podcast_1 (07:08):
Might, I won't look into it now, but if
anyone knows, that's anotherthing with this podcast.
We want your interaction, wewant your questions.
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But I'll, I'm gonna wait and seehow this builds before I go and
start doing that stuff.
And hopefully we can build anice little community around
this podcast.
It is a little bit of a passionproject for me and Zach,
something that we've discussedabout doing for a.
For a while now and decided justto jump in and just do it.
So we're still learning as wego.
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So we're happy for feedback aswell.
There's anything sports oranything related?
So, this week I've been on thePlayStation and giving college
football an absolute hammering,and I think most people would
know that it follow the series,but if you don't, the college
football game and the Maddenfootball game both made by ea,
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they're connected.
So you can start out with aplayer in a high school, get
sent offers to go to collegesand all of that, and select your
college and build your careerthrough the college system.
But then you can also transferyour stats and your player into
the Madden game, go through thecombine, get drafted and play in
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the NL.
And the thing that, reallystands out for me.
It's not really something that'sever been done before.
I know they did the same thinglast year, but I think They've
really, upped it by adding thatlittle high school factor.
You can go onto a website, makeyour own high school that you
can play for, and stuff likethat as well.
And I just think it's a realgenius thing and I've been given
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an absolute thrashing, not verywell mind you, but I haven't
seen another game that's comeclose to that sort of immersion,
you know what I mean?
Other than maybe cricket whereyou start out at club level and
build your way up through thestate and international t you
know, T 20 and stuff like that.
So yeah.
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What do you reckon?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (09:15):
it's, I think it's the start of
something that's gonna progressand we'll start to see it more
games, especially from thatsporting side of things in.
Yeah, that's something that canbe delved right into and.
You can see it happening insoccer NBA baseball.
(09:36):
I, yeah, I think
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (09:38):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (09:38):
the way EA will probably take a lot
of their gaming games.
Sorry.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_0 (09:45):
It'd be, it'd be a pretty,
significant thing to 2K to forEA to implement a college
football game, a foot collegebasketball game, and, and do it
that way.
You know, it's, it, it'ssomething definitely unique and,
I I really love what they'redoing with it, to be honest.
Like, I can't, yeah, we, like,we've got the new rugby league
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game and it's got its problems.
I don't mind it.
I don't hate it.
I'm happy to support it, to seeimprovements, but, you know,
with the pro team on, it'sabsolutely a, a, a step in the
right direction.
I know the gameplay is notfantastic, but I do think it's
an improvement on the last game.
(10:30):
I know it's very similar, but aswell.
NRL hasn't changed that muchother than a few rule changes,
and that over the years it'sstill the same sport and it's
the same with soccer.
Like how much can you actuallychange other than the things
that you can do within, I knowthere's some improvements that
they could do to career modewith fifa, but, or fc I don't
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think I'll ever get used tocalling it FC to be honest.
Obviously always calling a fifa,but I think, I think that that's
a good thing for sports games ingeneral.
Like I play a lot of sportsgames.
I think it's an absolutely,fantastic initiative that
they've taken to do it and toconnect them.
Like that's just a, I thinkthey've done really well with
that, to be honest.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (11:13):
Yeah, well that's right and I hope
they do take it in thatdirection, really.
Like I do think they couldincorporate it into one game,
but yeah, it's, well, having twogames gives'em two bites of the
cherry really, doesn't it?
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (11:30):
Yeah, well that, that's the thing too.
So it, people don't know.
You can go get ea play, it won'tbe till after the season, but
you can get it free toexperience it.
So if you have ea play rightnow, you can play college 25 and
Madden 25 free of charge, otherthan the subscription price,
which is fairly cheap, but it'snot that expensive.
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But to play.
But the next one will just comeup, you know, I only bought this
year's one'cause you mentionedit and I had the money there and
I couldn't help myself.
But I think it's a, I think it'sa great thing.
Anyways, so, yeah.
that's our, that's the thingsthat we've noticed this week
anyway, that we wanted to disOh, sorry.
There's one more thing I wantedto discuss.
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So, waking up this morning, thiswasn't on last night's failed
episode, news.
Was that the n l's looking at.
Moving a state of origin game toNew Zealand in 2027.
I know for a while now that youknow there's only the one game.
Each played in Sydney, played inBrisbane, and then highest
bidder gets to Melbourne, Perth,Adelaide, and all of that Is
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taking it to New Zealand theright step forward, you reckon?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (12:43):
I don't believe so.
But yeah, it's, I mean, goingback a couple of years ago, New
Zealand sacrificed a lot whenCOVID was happen on, by leaving
their side over here so theycould continue the season, but.
State of origin, It should bebetween New South Wales and
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Queensland
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (13:08):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10 (13:09):
that's the game should be played,
right?
It should be their fan base.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (13:14):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_ (13:15):
incorporate New Zealand in the state of
origin?
Well bring in a New Zealandstate of Origins competition.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (13:23):
As, as ever, as you'd know, like the
NRL at the end of that, theday's a business, so they're
gonna chase that money and it'sprobably gonna be worthwhile for
the NLS interests of money-wiseto do that sort of thing, build
a bigger supporter base andstuff like that.
And origin is another beast.
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Like, it's not like they'regonna take it out completely.
You'll still get to see yourgames.
I don't think it's really muchdifferent to going to Perth or
Melbourne or anything like that.
So people can still fly overthere and do it.
Do it as a trip, like to go andvisit New Zealand and watch the
state of origin game.
You know that that's a prettygood weekend away with mates or
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with your family or anythinganyway, so you're not really
missing much.
We still get to see it on tv.
It's still the same players, soI don't think it's that big of a
deal to do it, to be honest.
I, I welcome it.
Like it's only gonna build asupporter base.
Nothing beats the atmosphere ofstate of origin and being at the
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game and stuff.
I'd love to go as a New SouthWelshman.
I'd love to go to a Suncorp gamejust to experience the, you
know, that emotion and all ofthat.
So yeah, I don't, I don't thinkit's a bad thing.
that's what we've noticed thisweek anyway, so we can do a
little bit of a, sports wrap.
This week's probably gonna bevery NRL heavy with the end of
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the season, start of the finalseries.
we can discuss, well, we'regonna discuss the teams that
missed out on the eight.
So the nine teams at the bottom,just as a whole.
we tried going throughindividually yesterday, but it
just took too long, so we'regonna try and do it in a little
bit of a snapshot and stuff likethat.
We can.
yeah, so I reckon the nights areprobably the most disappointing.
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As a Knights fan yourself, Ithink they've really
disappointed themselves.
A lot of injuries did bringdown.
but they're obviously, they'llmissing in a few key spots.
O'Brien's been moved on.
I don't know if that wasnecessarily a, a team thing, but
I know the fans didn't want himthere.
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Now we've got the problem ofgoing through trying to select a
new coach.
I think the nights should bereally disappointed in that
wooden spoon.
That effort that they put in onSunday was just ridiculous.
And I'm, I'm a do or die nightsfan.
I'll sit down and watch everygame no matter how good, bad, or
anything that we're going justto see progress.
But as soon 10 minutes inMitchell, Moses runs nearly the
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full length of the field, whichis credit to Moses to notice
that opportunity and take off.
But the players that you see inthe back player that just back
off and don't even bother tochase is just really
disappointing.
And I, I turned it off afterthat.
I couldn't, I couldn't watch anymore of that.
So I hope they get the per theright person for the job.
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'cause you know, Newcastle as awhole really needs a strong
footy team because it's got agreat supporter base behind
them.
But that are very passionate andI think that that's why you see
him get so upset about things.
Whether PGA stays or goes, I'meither, either, I'm happy for
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him to stay'cause he is a greatplayer.
You can't deny that he can be agood player.
But we've got Fletcher Sharpthere.
You know, we've got the peoplein place that can cover all
those positions.
And with that signing of Sand ofSmith, that just adds another
string to their bow.
Dylan Brown, I don't wanna saytoo much on that'cause honestly,
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until next year, we're not gonnasee how that pans out'cause we
don't really know how he's gonnaplay.
People saying, well he is a fiveeighties, he gonna play half
back.
I've heard people say, FletcherSharp's gonna play half back.
So, yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (17:16):
Yeah, well was quite a disappointing
season for the Knights.
But yeah, like you said,injuries and that goes a lot of
those bottom nine teams, theinjuries to the right players at
the wrong time.
And yeah, I mean, we're alwaysgonna see it NR l's getting
faster and faster every year.
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So we will, yeah, we we're gonnaget injuries and it's part of
the game, but the Knights justdidn't have the depth this year.
And same as South's, same as theCowboys.
They just, didn't have thatdepth to their squad.
And it's disappointing to seethose top eight teams or top 10
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teams really drop right off.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (18:00):
Yeah.
And that's the disappointingthing.
You know, it's the depth.
So when you look at thecontracts like Conga and Dylan
Brown are on a mountain thatthat takes away from your debt.
So your juniors.
Have to be well coached to havethat next me up mentality.
Just like Penrith do, like youdo, you're gonna pay for these
top players to try and improveyour team.
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Your, your junior developmentneeds to be top class to be able
to counter that and still have acompetitive team.
Otherwise, it's gonna take toomuch away.
I think Newcastle has just asgood a junior area as what
Penrith do, and I don't see anyreason why it shouldn't be like
that.
But you've gotta obviously putsomeone in place that's gonna be
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able to nurture those juniorsand bring'em through into first
grade.
We're already seeing fruits oflittle things.
You've got Lucas, you've gotFletcher Sharp Crosland.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-1 (18:52):
Growing up playing footy in that
Newcastle area, I thinkNewcastle have, they've got a
really big area that they candraw from, but juniors coming
through that are really wantingto push that position.
I think.
Been only an hour and 45 minutesto go down the road to Sydney.
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It's not that hard these days.
I think that's the part that thenights.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (19:21):
Yeah,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (19:22):
So,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (19:23):
you gotta build a club that the
locals wanna play for, to beproud of.
And at the moment there's verylittle to be proud of'em for
just the effort on the field.
And I think it comes back on theplayers
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10 (19:33):
That's right.
And it's not only the juniorsthat are coming through like
you, it's been able to getplayers that want to come and
play for the club that arealready in there, NRL as well.
Like you got these players likeBrown and they've had to bring
in, but they've had to pay oversto get'em there.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (19:55):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I would like to see, likepersonally when I had a think
about it, had a look at thecandidates and stuff, I think
Holbrooks me number one forcoach.
'cause he didn't really do thatbad a job at the Titans.
The Titans didn't give himenough time.
Uh, Peter PAs moving into a CEOrole.
So there's a football directorrole there, I believe, unless
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they've already filled it, I'mnot a hundred percent sure.
But if they haven't filled thatrole, that's where I'd look at
someone like Michael Checker,who's worked with the Wallabies
and worked overseas in codesthat, you know, can help out in
that aspect of bringing juniorsthrough and the me and manager
whole type of thing.
Sort of a Gus School type role.
I think he'd be better suitedfor that.
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I know he doesn't have.
That much NRL experience, but Ithink he's passionate enough,
I've seen him talk and stuffabout that, about how he'd set
it up and all of that.
So a coaching director role forhim, I think it'd be be a
fantastic job.
Blake Green, I know that he'skind of a dirty word because of
the attack that the Knight's hadthis year, but I, I firmly
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believe Adam O'Brien was thehead coach.
So everything that wasimplemented come through Adam
O'Brien and Blake Green's onlyworking to what he's been told
to, with, with not as muchinput.
And at the same time, theybrought Dylan Brown and the
whole thing was around that theywere gonna change the attack,
but they needed, they probablyjust needed that one piece to be
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able to implement that sort ofattack.
So, you know, they've got goodyoung players coming through and
I just hope they really nurture'em and, you know, build'em into
the players that, that theyshould be.
Dylan Lucas, to me, is a out andout origin player.
But a lot of improvement thereon the night sent on Knights
front anyway.
But when you look at the othernine, well the Dragons and the
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Titans nights, I'd group themall into a very disappointing
season.
Maybe even the ose, a lot ofinjuries.
Um, losing Humphreys is probablya big factor in that, plus a
rookie halfback, not many gamesunder his belt, but he is
obviously gonna be building intoa very, very good player in the
future.
So I think they'll be rightgoing into the future.
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They've got Wayne Bennett there.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (22:05):
I think Souths are good with that,
those younger players comingthrough and they, they still
competed in football games, so Ithink their mentalities there.
was able to get'em up to playthe game.
They just couldn't get'em overthe line like, but again,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (22:25):
Yeah.
Well.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (22:26):
key players.
So think for South.
From out outside perspectivelooking in, I think Jay Gray's a
big, big plus for them, and Iknow Wayne Bennett says that
Mitchell's is one.
I would like to see Ja Gray stayat one.
Otherwise, that's probablylosing.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (22:47):
Yeah, well, I like Latrell being in
the centers.
I like him being a fullback.
He's a damaging player when hecan be.
That's probably the closest thatwe'll get to Greg Inglis, him or
Cobo, you know, you see thosetraits in them.
I've always had big wraps onLatrell Mitchell, but obviously
he is off field stuff and stufflike that lets him down.
Sometimes his suspensionsinjuries, but I don't think
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they're in a bad position.
they'll improve the way theeels.
I'll jump up a little bit.
the eels, obviously MitchellMoses is a main part of that
attack and as soon as he comeup, come back, they've
skyrocketed back up the ladder.
So I think Jason Rolls has donea pretty good job.
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He's got rid of some dead wood.
He's started bringing throughsome youth and stuff like that
and I think next year or theyear after, you'll start seeing
the fruits of his work.
I think he's gonna improve thateel's team and prove it to be a
good decision to take him on andmove Brad Arthur on anyway.
But, and the same with theTigers.
I think the Tigers should behappy with this season.
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They've risen off that woodenspoon, three wooden spoons.
they've come from finished therein 13th.
You know, I think it's a bigimprovement.
I think Benji's gonna be thatperson to build that culture and
bring these players in and it'syet to be seen.
You still.
a young coach, but it's stillgonna be yet to same.
Whether or not he's the coachthat could take him to a
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premiership or even into finals.
But it's a good work in process.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (24:18):
Yeah, that's right.
Benji's Tigers through andthrough.
So yeah, think is the rightperson for that job at West
Tigers, whether he's the coachthat wins him the next
premiership or not, well, that'syet to be determined, but he's
definitely got them going inthe, in the right spot.
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as for me, me, north QueenslandCowboys, well, they were a bit
of a disappointment former fromfifth last year to 12th this
year.
But yeah, the injuries to thatforward pack losing McLean and
through the middle part of theyear, and then seven players off
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playing origin.
It, it hurts, but again, depthreally is a big thing.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (25:07):
I think it,
squadcaster-i07e_1_ (25:08):
interesting to see how they go with another
full preseason with those fewyoung players
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (25:14):
yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (25:14):
debut this year.
Like, uh, they're only gonna getbetter those younger kids.
So,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (25:21):
Yeah.
I've got a, I can, I can look atthe West Tigers and I can see
like the same sort of thing aswhat the Bulldogs have done.
I think they're on the same sortof trajectory, so I think
they're in a good place.
I think they're only gonna getbetter from here.
We've got Paul going next year,who's a decent player.
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Don't think he was utilized wellenough for the nights.
I think he can only get better.
And maybe that's the team forhim to get better.
It'll, they're a lot moreexciting attack than what the
nights are, so it should createmore space for him.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (25:57):
Yeah,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (25:58):
but I, I'd be happy to say from 14th
through to ninth, where thedolphins are there, you know,
none of those teams needanything drastic, like a rebuild
or anything like that.
Injury's been the, the maincause of it.
The rabbit's lost a lot ofplayers through injury.
The tigers have improved fromwhat they were last year.
They're only on the upwardCowboys had a few injuries, but
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they've got players like PerduDen, they've got good players
around there that's gonnaimprove it.
And the eels with MitchellMoses, just completely different
team.
Sea Eagles lose DCE, but Fogartyis not a bad replacement.
And you know, might free up somesalary cup space for them to
make some moves, to bring insome more players and just
(26:42):
change the dynamic.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10 (26:43):
that's right.
Fogarty coming in there.
He plays different to DCE, sotheir attack change a little bit
and it could be
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09- (26:53):
I,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (26:53):
the better.
Like Tommy Turbo's been playingwith DCE for years now.
So bringing in the new halfbackand the new general into that
side, Fogarty could quite wellopen.
Luke Brooks and Tommy Turboright up.
Manley's an interesting one tokeep an eye on for next season.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (27:14):
yeah.
Yeah.
And the Dolphins, I think theymake the eight next year.
I honestly do they get a bitmore depth in there, move some,
move some things around because,they're only one or two wins
away from being in the eighththis year.
And for a club that's only beenaround for three years, that's,
that's a pretty decent standingand, you know, proves that there
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is enough players to supportthis current competition.
As for the Bears and the p and gteams, I personally believe
there's plenty of players outthere.
You've just gotta put the rightpeople in place to coach'em
properly.
And each general team only has atop 30, those top 30 of the
players that are trainingfull-time with the squad and
(27:55):
stuff like that.
And then your players inQueensland Cup, new South Wales
Cup, they're, they're thepart-time working, they're not
full-time training with thefirst grade squad.
So some of them players pick upcontracts as a full-time rugby
league player.
They're only gonna get betterfrom there, I think.
So I believe that thecompetition is s in a pretty
good spot.
I think that we couldcomfortably go to 20 teams and
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what happens from there is whathappens.
So, I think it'll be good.
And I think the Dolphins havekind of proved that, you know,
you can put that other team inand it can be successful.
I know the titans are a littlebit of a downer, but you know,
there's the times don't seem togive coaches or enough time to
build anything around that club.
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So hopefully Josh Hanna comes inthere and builds a good culture.
And, you know, I do believe thatyou'll probably be a fairly
decent coach from what I've seenand what I've read.
and good luck to him with it.
Like you need to have a closecompetition and that's what
brings excitement.
That's what brings views.
And you want all your fanswatching their team succeed.
(29:01):
So hopefully these teams will beon the bounce back for everyone
next year.
And, you know, it's a lot di alot different discussion.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (29:09):
Yeah.
Well that'd be quite nice to seethe cowboys go back up there.
That's for sure.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (29:16):
Yeah.
Well, I,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (29:17):
I mean, I think it'd be good to
see the NRL ladder change alittle bit like we, we see in
multiple other sports throughoutthe world that it could get
quite repetitive with the sameteams in the same positions all
the time.
So
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (29:35):
yeah,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (29:36):
teams drop in and out of the eight and
then it's good like there, it'sin the right direction.
the-incoherent-podcast_1 (29:43):
That's one thing with what I've found
following the NFL, I've beenfollowing it for the last couple
of years, getting really intoit, is how they implement their
draft and their trading systemsand just the way that they run
their competition that, youknow, I know that the Chiefs
have been in a fair few SuperBowls lately.
But that's just a, a well runfranchise to be completely
(30:05):
honest.
And there's not, there's a fewteams that aren't as far behind
them as what you might think onthat perspective.
Like the Bills and the Ravensare sitting there right behind
them in the, in the same sort ofthing.
You know, the Eagles are thecurrent champions.
I thought the Chiefs would'vedone it, but they didn't.
But that's one thing with theNFL.
(30:26):
They have their draft where, youknow, they trade their draft
picks, but usually the numberone pick is for that team that
comes last.
Overall, they get that firstselection at the best college
player that's coming through.
I, I'm all for implementing adraft into the NRL and making an
event around it.
I know why people don't.
(30:47):
American sports and Australiansports are two completely
different things the way they'rerun, but it does work well.
I know in a FL they have theirdraft and they've got their
rules around, around that draft.
It's not quite what the Americanone is, but I, I'd love to see
'em implement that sort of thingto help build up the, build up
(31:07):
these bottom teams so thatthey're getting these star
players without overpaying forit and blowing their salary cap
out.
'cause that's basically whathappens.
Like those teams are the knightsand the Titans for sure have to
pay way more than what theyreally should, like to be paid
to play sport in Newcastle andthe Gold Coast.
For me, somebody that doesn'tplay professional football, I,
(31:30):
I'd be happy just to do that.
Like those two places would beoutstanding to live in and get
paid for, it doesn't, it doesn'treally make much sense to me.
And, the NRL come out this weekand said about, the.
They're thinking aboutimplementing a wild card round,
which is also an NFL thing.
I don't think the competition'sready for that.
(31:54):
I think you need a few moreteams, and I think once you get
to that 18, 19, 20 realm, Ithink you've gotta cut down
because as it stands, it was thetop eight are basically the half
comp, half of the competitionplay finals and then you're
going away from that.
Or do you, would you rather seethe competition, like minimize
(32:14):
that so that it is fewer teamsthat get that finals per.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-202 (32:20):
Go to the EPL side of things and.
You.
If you're going to go to moreteams, you could just scrap the
final series, a few more roundsin, and at the end of the season
if you are good enough to be ontop, you are good enough to be
crowned champion.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (32:39):
Yeah, I, I do think that it's
underestimated when a team winsthe competition, but at the same
time, EPL has promotion andrelegation.
I don't think that system worksfrom an NRL point of view, and I
don't think the Australianpublic really get that sort of
mentality.
They want that finals, they wantthat underdog to win that grand
(33:01):
final, you know, where the NFLhas their, their conference
system, and you can minimize therounds.
I, I don't really think thatevery team has to play each
other twice.
I think you can get away witheach play, each team plays each
other once have 19 rounds andthen have a final series off
that if you didn't split it upinto conferences.
(33:22):
But if you're gonna doconferences, I truly believe
that you should have a draw atthe start of the season to pick
which teams are in what, whichconference that you.
I don't think you canregionalize'em like the NFL is,
which it really isn't.
They're kind of here and there,dabbled in.
I still haven't worked out whatthe system is for that, so,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (33:43):
Yeah.
Conferences, it's a, in myopinion, it's a, it's something
that could potentially work,but, and we've spoke about this
numerous times over the years,but it'd take the higher ups
within the NRL to really sitdown and over it and nut it out
(34:03):
properly
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (34:05):
yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (34:05):
run properly.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09- (34:07):
I, I think you just want your best
chance at a close competition.
And the draft's only gonna workif you take away the junior
development away from clubs andhave clubs stand on their own.
And the NRL runs a separatecompetition in like an under 20
site format where they, wherethey don't, the NRL runs it, not
(34:27):
the clubs.
A lot of the clubs don't have,don't run the juniors.
And that's the way it's goingto, because then you don't get
the teams like Penrith and that,well, they're our junior, why
should we give it up to you?
But it'd have to be allformatted for that to work, but
to create excitement.
I, I'm all for it.
I don't think it'll ever happen.
(34:49):
I think that we're about, we'renot too, we're a few years off.
Sam Val's implement AmericanSystems anyway, but I don't
think the draft's gonna be athing.
back.
You all good?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (35:03):
Yeah, yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (35:03):
the NFL started this week.
I didn't get to watch many games'cause I was working over the,
over the time it was on becausetheir, most of their games are
played on Monday.
I was on Monday day shift andit's played through the day.
I've gotta see a couple ofgames.
But the only thing I'm gonna sayon that this week is that, you
know, the Ravens got beat by onepoint.
They scored 40 points, got beat41 40 by the pills, who are a
(35:27):
Super Bowl contender, just likethe Ravens.
But the, the Ravens just becamethe first team in NFL history to
score 40 points and get beaten,which is a bit of a Deanna to be
honest.
But both, both those teams haveexciting offenses that can score
a lot of points and they've gotthe, two of the best
quarterbacks in the entirecompetition.
(35:48):
It's, disappointing from aRavens fan point of view.
But we'll see how thattranspires over the season.
the one other thing that I didsee outta the NFL this week was,
old mate spitting on the DallasCowboys quarterback.
You can't be doing that.
Just all, you can't just bespitting at people.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (36:09):
Yeah, well I know you get, get your
ass kicked.
You do that back where we arefrom.
But anyway, that's, he's doneit.
He's, he's caught his suspensionand we'll, we'll see how that
pans out next time they face offagainst each other.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (36:27):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-202 (36:28):
So there's some, uh, some big boys
that'll be out chasing him.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (36:32):
Yeah.
Well, I started at that, startedof the game.
You got thrown outta the gamebecause of it., It's.
Yeah, you, you can't be doingthat.
And then the other thing that Inoticed was, Lamar Jackson from
the Ravens, had a little talkabout, you know, they'll
celebrating and a fan hit two ofthe players on the head when
they're up against the fence andLamar's pushed old mate back
(36:52):
over the fence.
don't go touching players whenyou go to the games.
That's all I can say.
He is only reacting to somethingthat a fan's done.
Like, don't be going and doingthat stuff.
it's, it's not needed.
I understand people arepassionate and stuff, but I
don't think there's any need forthat.
There's probably not gonna beanything come of that, but I'm
(37:13):
sure if Lamar had his time overagain, he'd probably, you know,
try to ignore it a little bitbetter.
It'd be pretty hard to ignoreall of that stuff.
So.
Nottingham Forest have announcedthis morning that Ang is gonna
be, their coach going forward inthe EPL.
I think it's a great thing for,Australian soccer football, that
(37:35):
we've got an Australian coachthat's over there competing at,
you know, the elite of theworld, in the coaching realm of
things.
And he has proven that he doeswin trophies.
So I don't think he's prettygood.
I think he's pretty good mateswith the billionaire owner, but
it'd be really interesting tosee how he goes with a probably
slightly lesser team thanTottenham, though.
(37:56):
Tottenham doesn't, they're kindof here or there, aren't they?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (38:00):
Oh, that's right.
I was kind of surprised whenTottenham got rid of the inch.
So he just won the Europa withhim and then Yeah, he didn't
quite do as well in the actualEPL as what they were hoping.
So they got rid of him, butyeah, to the C, not them.
(38:24):
Forest pick him up.
Well.
That'd be interesting to seewhether they can implement his
kind of play style.
So yeah, he's a, he's a veryattacking minded coach and well,
not being the bottom of thepecking order in the EPL.
(38:44):
So, I mean, he's got anothercrack at Europa as well this
year with Ham that they managedto pick up a spot after
finishing seventh last year.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (38:58):
Yeah, so my expect, my expertise in
the soccer goes to, I've won agrand final and that's about it.
I played one season of soccer.
Zach was the coach.
It was a little bit of fun atthe time, you know, won a grand
final doing it.
I do watch it a little bit.
I support Liverpool, Zachsports, me and city.
(39:18):
so I have little input for it,but I'm gonna try the best and
try to get cross coverage andstuff.
I found it really hard to followEPL once KO lost the rights or
Fox lost the rights'cause that'swhere I get most of my sport
content from.
But I've recently got the NFLPass so I can watch a lot of NFL
(39:40):
games'cause I've been right intoit and it just kind of works out
well that it goes from footyseason, the end of footy season,
pretty much through to the startof the preseason for NRL.
And I working in the mines onthe shifts and that I get, I get
to watch a lot of it and pay alot of attention to it.
but the EPLs on Stand now andyou've got it on stand and
(40:01):
you'll get up early hours in themorning to watch it.
Do you think that it's a bigimprovement or doesn't really
matter?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (40:08):
No, it's not much of a change.
It's just different streamingrights of Stan taking over than
what Optus had.
But yeah, it's, I don't.
It's, yeah.
big, big change there.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (40:23):
Yeah, I, I hate the fact that
different sports have all oftheir coverage on different apps
and different streamingservices, and it's bad enough
that there's TV shows and moviesand that, that are, you gotta go
through six different streamingservices just to find what
you're looking for.
You know, it's a little bitannoying, but I've found with
the NFL past that.
(40:45):
They don't show every game.
But in, in saying that I haven'tsat there on a Sunday to see
what it's all about.
And I'm looking forward tositting down on a Sunday and
seeing what games they have andwhether or not it's gonna be
beneficial to me.
'cause it is quite expensive.
But I will say that it does havethose little extra things on
there, like documentaries andstuff like that.
'cause I love sports history andstuff like that.
(41:05):
And the NFL really gravitatetowards watching the history of
that and learning about it.
it's just through the historyand learning about Baltimore
that I even became a Baltimorefan to begin with.
and I'm just as passionate aboutthe Ravens as I am end of the
Knights.
It's, it's unbelievable.
I went a long time where I sortof NFL was there, but I couldn't
really pick a team.
(41:26):
But, you know, I don't know, Idunno about you, but I was, I'm
yet to see whether or not theNRL come up with their own sort
of NFL pass type thing.
Like an NRL pass.
And I dunno if that'd be morebeneficial to'em.
I think it would bring moremoney into'em, but I think they,
they'd still need thosebroadcast deals with say, like a
(41:47):
free to air nine or ko anyway.
but what, what do you reckon?
You reckon that's just the wayit's going now?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09 (41:54):
Overseas.
I think it's going that way, butI think NRL, they'll stick the
Fox footy.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (42:00):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (42:01):
Yeah.
I think, not being a, such aworld broadcasted sport, I think
it's gonna be hard for him tosort of implement a, an app.
But I think, yeah, leaving itwith Fox Sport and having the,
the ability to just go there andwatch back to back games or
recaps, it's already there.
(42:21):
It's, I think that's whatthey'll persist with.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (42:25):
Yeah, there's one, there is one part
of the NFL Pass that I really dolike is, they've got coaches
view, like a coach's tape andyou can sit there and watch it.
No commentary, no nothing likethat.
It's just up in the stands.
You get the full view of thewhole field and what everyone's
doing and stuff like that.
I can go back and watch theSuper Bowl in that sort of view
without any commentary.
(42:46):
No ads, nothing like that.
And for someone that's trying tolearn the game and watch things,
it's really beneficial to me tosit down and watch those sort of
tapes and take it all in.
But I would love that sort ofthing.
In an NRL setting, I reallywould like, I like gonna the
games, sitting up there onhalfway and seeing what every
player's doing.
I don't like the way theybroadcast NRL'cause I don't like
(43:08):
zooming in on the play the ball.
It drives me nuts.
Or when they're focusing on aplayer that's triggering, got a
little mingle, but there'saction happening over the back
and you miss half of it becauseof it.
You know what I mean?
really drives me nuts and Ireally wish they'd put that
little screen that they put thefull action on rather than the
replay.
I wish they'd flipped that sothat the replay's on the little
(43:29):
screen, like it's just a littlething that annoys me.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (43:33):
Yeah, well maybe something you just
gotta suck up, I guess.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (43:38):
yeah.
Well I think the NL havebroadcasting rights coming up
soon, so.
You know, I think that's thewhole implementation of like
implementing the Bears extragame to offer and stuff like
that.
And, all the, all the peoplethat you're sitting out and you
say, oh, the NRL don't get asmany fans as the A A FL and
stuff like that.
At the end of the day, the NRLmakes majority of their money
(44:00):
off broadcasting rights.
So you can't tell me they don'twant you sitting at home
watching it.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10 (44:05):
That's right.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (44:07):
The more eyes they get on a screen,
the more money that the morevaluable it is to that network
that wants to broadcast it.
So that's why State of Origin'ssuch a big, a big thing to grab.
'cause they want everyonewatching that.
That's why Channel Nine's gotthe rights to it solely and
you've gotta watch a replay onKao so they can get all the eyes
that they possibly can.
(44:27):
I'd rather watch it on Kako.
I, I don't like the ninecommentary too much, but unless
Blocker, roaches commentate,that really does me head in and
for some reason does all nightsgames.
That's our sports wrap for theweek anyway.
And we'll move away from thesports and move on to a little
bit of gaming stuff.
There wasn't too much gamingstuff that I found this week,
(44:48):
other than I've been playing alot of college football.
but I've seen a lot of lot comeup with PS five, PS six coming
soon.
Do you think we're ready for aPS six?
I feel like I've only just gotme PS five.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (45:01):
They, they sort of, yeah, release that
new console every few years.
And I think because a lot ofpeople got their systems during
that COVID period, a lot ofpeople had time to play it a
lot.
So it is sort of a little bitoutdated in, in such, but yeah,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (45:24):
I think that's just the technology
thing and things get outdatedall the time.
Like you go by a TV now andthree weeks later it's outdated.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (45:31):
a hundred percent.
And I think that's why we aresort of ready for that.
PS six,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (45:39):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2 (45:40):
they change a few little things that
I'd, I'd love to see it morememory.
that's a big one for me.
I think games are getting biggerevery time they're getting
released, so.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (45:53):
are huge.
I've, I've pretty much stoppedbuying cod games when I love
playing multiplayer on Call ofDuty games, but it's just too
big and every time you get anupdate, it just about fuels up
the whole thing.
And you don't have a selectionof games there.
And I don't wanna sit down onthe lounge and wait for a game
to download for an hour or two,you know?
(46:15):
Like, I've got pretty shitinternet, but you know, I don't
wanna be doing that sort ofstuff.
And I think they really droppedthe ball when they took away,
you know, I know you can put PSfour games on a hard drive and
play'em directly from the harddrive, but you can't do that
with PS five games.
And I'd really like to see'embring that back where you can
have the external hard drive.
I, I know that you can changethe system, but if you're
(46:37):
anything like me and Zachfiddling around with things like
that and the potential ofbreaking, it scares the shit out
of us.
And it is quite expensive.
Like, you know, I would probablyput Okay, memory card.
Memory card would be prettysick.
Not really.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (46:56):
go, go retro, implement the old PS
one and
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (47:00):
Okay.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2 (47:00):
when they bring out the new PS six,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (47:02):
Yeah, well the, you know what I did
notice is that the only thingthat I found on a PS six is that
they're thinking about having adeta detachable disc drive.
Now I've got a disc drive PSfive.
I bought that intentionally'cause I could play my old for
PS four games on it, and I had aheap of discs On PS four, I have
very minimal PS five disks.
(47:25):
Most of mine are downloadedstraight from the PSN store.
Do you really think that we needdisks this day and age?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (47:33):
no, I don't think we do, and I also
don't think that again shouldcost as much as what they do.
When you don't get that.
Actual disk, like something andit's strictly downloaded to our
system.
I
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (47:50):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-1 (47:52):
doesn't need to be$140 when I'm going to
EB games and buy the same gamewith a dis for$140.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (47:59):
I would love to see how they work
that out.
That it's the same price on thestore when you've got shipping.
You've got marketing, you've gotall of that other stuff, but you
can just download it.
Like, they don't have to makethe dis the case.
The marketing would be just the,the covers and stuff like that
when they can put it straightonto the thing and you just
download it.
Like, most people have internetthese days.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (48:22):
yeah.
And I, I do, do understand likethey've gotta make money so that
they can then
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (48:28):
yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (48:28):
and whatnot, but
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (48:30):
But there, there is a point of
getting greedy.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10 (48:33):
That's right.
If it's
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09- (48:35):
I,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (48:35):
a hundred and or a hundred dollars
game and they knock it back to80 because you're gonna buy
online rather than buy the DISversion,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (48:43):
yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (48:43):
think they'd have more sales.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (48:46):
Yeah.
But that, that also, no, you'reright.
Go.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2 (48:52):
I've lost the train of thought now.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (48:54):
No, I was just gonna say like the
part of, oh, just doing this,like, it brings me on to me next
point.
That's all.
It's kind of a, good segue isthat a lot of games these days
are remakes, and I understandthe nostalgia.
I've got a heap of remakes thatI play all the time as well.
Like, I'm not saying that aremakes a bad thing, but when
(49:16):
you've got something like metalgear solid where they've come
and made a rebate out of thesnake eater game, they haven't
made a metal gear solid game,standalone game for ages.
Like, would you rather'em goback and remake that game or
would you rather'em have a go ata new game?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (49:35):
I would like to see'em develop a
new game, I think.
But yeah, it's, understand whythey remake a lot of those games
with the, the new technologycoming out and it's, yeah,
everything's sort of highdefinition now, so
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (49:53):
Yeah, I can understand.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (49:55):
older games, revamping them to, to
suit that high definitionresolution.
That's, it is a good thing.
But again, yeah, I'd like to seehim
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (50:08):
I just want a
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-202 (50:09):
at me.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (50:09):
new experience.
Like there's, there's good gamesout there.
You know, the, the series of'emkind of works, works with that.
Like I know that you are all fora remake of need for Speed
underground too,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (50:23):
A
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (50:23):
and I'm all for that.
Because that was a great game.
But if I was to go down to it,I'd rather make a need for Speed
underground three and have acompletely new sort of thing to
it.
You know, having have a newstory, I think that'd be a more,
that'd be a more financial typething to go to towards, rather
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than upgrading Need for speedtoo.
'cause need for Speed series,when you go through'em all,
they're all over the place fordifferent things.
And that underground series wasliterally street racing.
It was fast and the Furious.
It's what was big at the time.
And you could do so manycustomizations and all of that.
And I know they've tried to doit, since, but it ha it just
hasn't quite hit the same.
(51:05):
But I'd love to see him go backto that same sort of formula
with a little bit of a upgradeto things and stuff like that,
you know, but I'm, I love meracing games, but I'm more a,
these days I'm more grandcharisma or, you know, the
project cars one was prettygood.
till three that completelychanged it.
(51:26):
But I like those realistic pitstops, you know, because I, I
love supercars and stuff likethat, but I'm more for the
longer endurance races, raceslike Bathurst and stuff like
that, that's what gets meexcited and that's what I want
in a game, you know, I wantthat, that side of things.
And I think there is a few gamesthat are coming out soon that
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sort of come around that, a SetoCosta that that's, that's in the
right domain.
I find it very difficult, but,you know, I've got the VR there,
so I love playing Grand Truowith me vr and I'd love to get a
steering wheel one day and havethe full immersion of it.
I think that's an absolute winfor Grand Truo where they went
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on that.
I know not everyone likes GrandTruo, but I, I quite enjoy, I
put a lot of hours into GreenTrees mate.
Personally.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-202 (52:19):
as long as you're playing grand and
vr, you'll keep your hands outof the fan above you.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (52:25):
yeah, well that's true too.
So nobody, nobody on here shouldknow UN unless you know me.
But yeah, I started the yearplaying VR and having a great
time until I stuck my hand inthe air and hit the ceiling fan
and cut my thumb off.
So well, broke me thumb in thefan and cut it in half.
So, yeah, that wasn't, I don'trecommend that.
(52:50):
So use VR with caution, whichwhile we're on the VR thing, I
haven't got it written down forus to talk about.
I think they put a lot moreeffort into the VR concept.
I think that it can really gosomewhere, like I've played
Resident Evil and stuff on thatvr, and it's so immersive.
Like even to the point of I'msitting there getting chased by
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some big bitch.
I mean, Mrs grabbed me on theshoulder at the same time that
scared the absolute living shitoutta me.
But, you know, it just shows howimmersive it is.
You put the ear earphones in andyou just go onto it and, you
know, for a story mode game andthe way to do it, I know some
people get sick with it.
I got motion sickness when Ifirst started using it, but you
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build a tolerance to it.
You need to sort of stick withit and don't play it for too
long, you know, sort of.
But it ended up that I wassitting there doing frigging, I
was that bored when I wasfrigging, cut me thumb off'cause
I couldn't work, couldn't doanything.
And I was sitting there playinggrand tr mail and I'd done a
full Bathurst, like, it tookhours obviously, but I could sit
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and tolerate it.
I don't recommend doing it.
But yeah, I think vrs really gota future in gaming.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (54:03):
You reckon vr, NRL.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (54:06):
I don't think it works like it.
It could work.
I'd love to see how they'd tryto implement it, but I don't
think it works.
I've got an NFL VR game andthat's pretty cool.
But you, like, you're thequarterback and you throw it,
there's a way of running andstuff like that.
It's kind of difficult, but it'sstill pretty fun to play.
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Like I really do enjoy it.
the golf games that I've seen,like the mini golf on, it's
probably unbelievable.
It's one of my favorite games.
I just cut me thumb off doingit.
But you can get other golf gameson it that, you know, I like
playing golf and me and you, welove playing golf.
We go play golf together.
But to have that opportunitywhen it's, you know, we can't
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organize to go and play anactual game, to be able to jump
online and play against yourmate and play it frigging, you
know, any golf course in theworld.
I think that'd be unbelievable,to be honest.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (55:03):
Yeah, that's right.
We will see how that one pansout anyway.
'cause I think it's only gonnaget better.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (55:10):
I think it is.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (55:11):
the more people purchase it and put
money and want behind it, Ithink it,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (55:18):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (55:19):
the developers something to strive
to better each, each time.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (55:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's just the thing.
It's a, it's another expense.
Like I, my wife bought it for usfor Christmas as a family gift,
and it is like buying a secondsystem.
That's the, that's probably the.
The biggest downside to it is,you know, it's an extra expense,
but I think it's a good bit ofgear.
Anyway, I, I wouldn't get rid ofit.
I haven't played it in a while.
(55:45):
haven't really had much time,but, you know, I'm slowly
letting the, the catalog buildup a little bit.
'cause when I first got it, it,it wasn't too many games that
you could play with it.
But if you're gonna give it a gothough, I, I do highly recommend
the, resident evil ones if youknow, you're like that sort of
horror thing.
'cause I thought that wasabsolutely fantastic.
(56:06):
But yeah, that, I'd like to see'em go into the fully developed
games rather than the sort ofindie novelty games like the NFL
and the mini golf and that like,they have a full thing.
It'd be probably an improvementon it and hopefully more
developers will take on thattask.
'cause there is a few games thatare full ones on there.
(56:28):
They're just a bit moreexpensive obviously.
But yeah.
Anything else that you'venoticed in gaming this week?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2 (56:36):
Nah, not really.
yeah, there's a couple ofnew-ish games that I'm probably
gonna have a look at over theweekend.
But I'll get back to you guysnext week on that one.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (56:47):
Yeah, and if you wonder and how we
find time to play heaps of gamesand watch sport, we play games
and then watch sport on ourphones, so it's always in the
background, unless it's like abig thing we wanna watch on the
tv, but you know, we kind of, westill have time for our kids and
families and that, and we're notjust all this, so, yeah.
(57:11):
All right.
Move on to the next thing, ourbold predictions.
Zach, what are your boldpredictions for this week?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-202 (57:20):
My poor predictions first one this
week I Sharks are gonna fail atanother final series.
The chooks are gonna go to SharkPark and knock'em over.
I think it'd be a nice tightgame, but I think Roosters have
just, they've built somethingthis season and the back end of
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this season, they've just beenfiring on all cylinders.
So, but yeah.
Bow prediction roosters to beatthe sharks by four.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (57:52):
Yeah, I, I honestly believe all the
games starting this week, thisfinal series is gonna be close.
It's gonna be tight, and it'sgonna be well worth watching,
and I'm glad that I'm off thisweekend to, to be able to watch
it.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2 (58:04):
next bold prediction
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (58:06):
Okay.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (58:07):
doggy started the season, well,
they'll lead the competition atone point, but I think they go
out in straight sets.
they get beat by Melbourne inMelbourne and then, yeah, week
two, I think they fall on thesame side as Penrith, and think
Penrith will knock'em over inweek two.
(58:27):
So.
Doggies out in straight sets.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09- (58:30):
Do you stick by that if the
Warriors get over the Panthersin New Zealand?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (58:35):
Well, that'd make for a very
interesting game between
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (58:40):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (58:40):
and the dogs.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (58:41):
Well, it's your bold prediction now,
so it's locked in.
You can't go back on it.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (58:45):
and number three, bold prediction to
me, Chester Derby this weekend.
Manchester City.
Three one
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (58:55):
Three one you reckon,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (58:57):
yeah,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (58:58):
and then.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10 (58:59):
couple of quiet weeks.
The last couple of rounds forthe city.
But yeah, I think United, they,they always get up for that City
United Derby and, yeah.
Three one the city.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (59:14):
Yeah, well they're probably, uh, what
are in for again, three gamesnow I,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (59:23):
Yeah, three games in, so round four
this week.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (59:26):
and sitting in 13, so they've lost
two.
So yeah, I dunno think Liverpoolare on a good trajectory anyway.
Three from three.
So yeah.
it's my bold predictions forthis week.
I've got, at number one, I thinkCanberra are gonna win in
Canberra against the Broncos.
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I know that's probably a littlebit of a cop out, but'cause
Broncos are a little bit understrength.
But I really don't think thatthe Broncos can go down there
and beat Canberra.
I know that they're going wellat the moment, but I, I don't
see it happening.
And I think the Broncos areplaying next week.
I think Reynolds and Mim comeback next week.
And that's, that's the thingabout the Broncos.
(01:00:09):
They've got those players tocome back.
They, they could do anythingfrom here on out and it wouldn't
surprise me if they went on towin it.
It wouldn't surprise me if theywent out in straight sets.
It's just the Broncos are justone of those teams.
But if I'm a Bronco supporter,I'm probably believing, imagine
these are going deep into thefinals anyway.
Hmm.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (01:00:29):
Close game reckon so.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (01:00:31):
I think all the final games are
gonna be close and good.
You know, I think it's gonna bea good weekend of footy to be
honest.
Get around it.
I mean, number two is the Ravenswill bounced back from their
loss to the bills against theBrowns, and I think Derrick
Henry will run for 200.
Plus yards in that win.
(01:00:52):
Derrick Henry, obviously anabsolutely phenomenal player,
between him and Lamar.
That's just, that's scary for adefense to come up against when
you can hear, they hand it offto him or he can run himself or,
you know, Lamar can throwhimself.
It's, it's a really rounded outoffense that they've got.
So they've got Hopkins andfliers there that are pretty
(01:01:15):
good receivers as well.
That'll probably take him.
I, I, I'm playing, if I wasgonna have a real bowl
prediction, I'd say I'd sayRavens will win Super Bowl.
I'm dead set in belief this yearthat this is our year, so it's
not me.
Bold prediction.
I'm just gonna bounce back, butyeah, we'll, we'll see how we
go.
(01:01:36):
We'll give it a couple of weeksbefore I unleash that and my
number one prediction.
Is that the Incoherent podcastwill get 25 listens in its first
week, this being episode one.
And for that to happen, peoplethat are listening and got this
far through our dribble andprobably realize why it's called
the Incoherent podcast, is ifyou can share, like, you know,
(01:02:00):
tell your friends, come and joinus.
Like we said, we wanna try andbuild a community around this
whole podcast and have peoplethat we can discuss about sport
games, you know, set up tippingcomps, super coaches, online
games.
we've both got the PlayStation,we've both got laptops, for
gaming and stuff like that.
I don't do much on my laptop,unless I'm, you know, a foot
(01:02:24):
football manager and citybuilding sort of games is sort
of what I leave that for'cause Ilike the mouse control of it.
But yeah, if you just can go andhave a look for the Incoherent
podcast on Instagram andFacebook, give us a, like, give
us a follow, give us a sharethis episode.
I'll post that up on both ofthem.
If you could give that a shareand see how many people, see if
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we can build this podcast intosomething and really get around
the whole thing of sports andgaming.
So yeah, that, that'd be great.
Have you got anything else?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (01:02:59):
No, that's pretty much it for week
one.
next episode, we'll, you won'tdelete it and we won't, we'll
have, be able to release it ontime.
for a Thursday release eachweek, and obviously with
commitments and familycommitments, that could change.
But yeah,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (01:03:18):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2 (01:03:19):
guys know.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09- (01:03:20):
So we're gonna try and record every
Tuesday, except for when I'mworking night shift on a
Tuesday.
'cause obviously Zach will be atwork when I'm at home.
So we're gonna move that toWednesdays, but we're hoping
that we can have a consistentThursday release for every
episode.
we're thinking about doing an alike bonus podcast for when big
(01:03:40):
things come up that we feelneeds a lot of discussion.
Say a state of origin game, orsomething like that, so that
we're not wasting time todiscuss other things and boring
people and things.
I know this week was very NRLbased, but, that's the exciting
thing that's happening at themoment.
And, you know, we, we know afair bit about NRL, we know a
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fair bit about other stuff, butyeah, we'll just see how we go.
And this is a big learning curvefor us and we are happy to jump
in and give it a go.
And we just love.
Everyone's support with it.
Really.
Like I've had fun doing this.
I know that, you know, this isour second attempt at our first
episode, but I think we learnedfrom yesterday's episode anyway,
(01:04:22):
and I think it's a lot more freeflowing and you know, we cut the
time down and we gotta discuss alittle bit more so we could cut
some of that stuff out.
Yeah.
Anyway, till next week,
Speaker (01:04:35):
thank you for joining Zach and I on this week's
episode of the IncoherentPodcast.
We will be back next week withanother episode talking about
the week of sport and gaming.
You can follow us at theIncoherent Podcast on Facebook
and Instagram.
You can also get in touch withus via our email, the Incoherent
podcast at outlook com.
Feel free to message us if youhave anything for us to discuss
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in future episodes Till nextweek, it's from us.
Hello, I'm Jason from the Inca Here podcast.
Come and sit down with Zach andI as we discuss this week in
sports and.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_0 (00:25):
Here we are on the Incoherent podcast
for episode one 2.0 because Iaccidentally deleted our first
episode and had to rerecord.
So here we are.
But a lot has changed since ourlast episode that we can talk
about and we're probablyredefined the episode anyway,
it's probably a learning curvefrom it anyways, moving up to
(00:47):
that.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-202 (00:49):
We are a great deal.
It's kicking back, raining uphere,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (00:53):
Yeah, well I've, got night shift in a
couple of hours, so we'll try tosmash this out and I'll start to
edit it and send it out see howwe go with this project, where
Zach and Jason we, had an ideato start this project to.
Talk about things that we enjoyin life, which is sports gaming.
(01:14):
We cover, talk about a lot ofsports, a lot of, games and
stuff with our PlayStations andthat that's how we communicate.
we've, we both grew up in theHunter Valley, but we've since
moved away, a few hours fromeach other.
So bear with us.
We're doing it over theinternet.
I work in the mines, so I've gota pretty decent roster that I
can sort of work it around.
(01:35):
Zach works for himself, so mightbe a bit touch, go with what he
does anyway.
So, one thing I noticed thisweek though, the Raiders getting
beat by 50 points.
Do you think that that, includesour voodoo of no team has ever
won after being beat by morethan 50 in the regular season?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (01:56):
Yeah, well, stick's in a bit of a
sticky situation down there withthat one.
But I think the Raiders, they'rea, a professional outfit and I
think they'll be the first teamto go on and break that voodoo.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (02:12):
Yeah, I, I believe so too.
I think they've earned thefavoritism to win the
competition.
but in, in saying that, lookingthrough all eight of those
teams, I, I, if any of them goon a run, any one of them could
win on the day.
even the Warriors they've gotthe Panthers at home in the
first round, but it's still abig task to go over there during
(02:33):
a final series to, to beat'em.
I know they've been a bit downlately, but I think they got
most of their team back thatthey could prove an upset to be
honest.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (02:46):
Yeah, well, big tasker Penrith to go
over there, but I think again,Penrith too much class.
They've four in a row and beento five grand finals in recent
years that they'll, I thinkcruise past warriors, to be
honest, I don't think, I don'tthink warriors are going to do
(03:08):
themselves any justice thisyear.
I think too many injuries in keypositions are gonna hurt em.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (03:13):
Yeah, well, I think the storm and the
Panthers have the experience infinals.
that's what they've got goingfor'em.
it is a, it is a completely newcompetition now.
Once, once the, once thecompetition full finishes and
you start on the finals, it's,it can be anything, you know,
like the roosters could go and arun that wouldn't surprise me.
(03:35):
Panthers could go on a run quiteeasily, but I think the Storm
and the Bulldogs have proved inthe last couple of weeks, so
they're not quite there.
The Broncos, they go down andface Canberra, in the first
week, but they've still gotplayers to come back and they've
got a second fight at theCherry, so they'll probably go
(03:55):
on a little bit of something aswell.
yeah, other than that, I, Ithink the competition as a whole
has been, it's been pretty good,pretty good season, to be
honest.
Like it's been fairly close upuntil the last couple of weeks.
I know those bottom three teamskind of fell away
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10 (04:11):
pretty tight the whole way through the
season and top eight only justgot finalized on the weekend
with is wrapping up.
Eight spot.
But new season now.
I'd see how everyone goes.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (04:25):
Yeah.
I'm looking forward to seeingthe first game on Friday of
storming the Bulldogs.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-202 (04:32):
It should be a good game.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09- (04:34):
Is there anything you noticed this
week that you want to talkabout?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2 (04:37):
very daily being announced as
coaching advisor for Manly andhow it's gonna affect, well, I,
how it'll affect him with theNew South Wales coaching role.
But see how that one pans out inearly next year.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (04:57):
I don't think it's gonna
necessarily affect him.
Like it's, he's in there to helpme and Lee, I think it'll be a
good contribution.
But you know, Laurie was NewSouth Wales coach up against
probably the greatest team everassembled, to be honest.
Like, as much as it hurts me tosay that.
He was a bit unlucky in thoseseasons because a lot of those
(05:18):
games, a lot of those serieswere a lot closer than what
people remember as well.
So it's just one field goal orsomething away and it doesn't
look the way it is, but, youknow, they used to be able to
manage a game unbelievably, allthose players through Thirsts
and Cronk, blockier Smith, youknow, it was, it was a pretty
big task and we should reallysee that, you know, we gotta
(05:40):
experience something that wasgreat, to be honest.
And that's what this is allabout.
We love sport.
We love seeing those greatmoments and I think Lori will
add something and I think it'llalso help him with, with
translating that to his NewSouth Wales role because he's
seen the ins and outs of the NRLClub, like he's done some work
(06:01):
with Craig Bellamy.
This year.
that's the same sort of thing.
I'd say he'll have Craig Bellamyback doing an advisory role as
well this year.
So I think, I think it's, it'spretty positive.
I can't think of another coachthat's really outstanding for
the job anyway, for now.
So I'm, I'm happy to persistwith Laurie for another year and
(06:23):
if he wants to go into the Manlysystem, I, I don't think that's
a bad thing to be quite honest.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (06:30):
I just think I look at Queensland
and their dominance with BillySlater as a coach at the moment.
And yeah, separating himselffrom the, the NRL and we seen
with Mag and how he did with,with New South Wales, when he
had no ties to any other NRLclub, it was still a lot easier
(06:52):
for him just to focus on thatsort of 10 week period And
the-incoherent-podcast_1 (06:57):
Wasn't he, wasn't he still working with
Canberra during that or did heset the tights?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (07:03):
No, I'm pretty sure is just was New
South Wales only.
the-incoherent-podcast_1 (07:08):
Might, I won't look into it now, but if
anyone knows, that's anotherthing with this podcast.
We want your interaction, wewant your questions.
you can send through somequestions and stuff to our
email, the incoherentpodcast@outlook.com or on
Instagram or Facebook, just theincoherent podcast.
send things through theirmessages, ask us questions on
there, or probably make a groupeventually.
(07:30):
But I'll, I'm gonna wait and seehow this builds before I go and
start doing that stuff.
And hopefully we can build anice little community around
this podcast.
It is a little bit of a passionproject for me and Zach,
something that we've discussedabout doing for a.
For a while now and decided justto jump in and just do it.
So we're still learning as wego.
(07:51):
So we're happy for feedback aswell.
There's anything sports oranything related?
So, this week I've been on thePlayStation and giving college
football an absolute hammering,and I think most people would
know that it follow the series,but if you don't, the college
football game and the Maddenfootball game both made by ea,
(08:12):
they're connected.
So you can start out with aplayer in a high school, get
sent offers to go to collegesand all of that, and select your
college and build your careerthrough the college system.
But then you can also transferyour stats and your player into
the Madden game, go through thecombine, get drafted and play in
(08:33):
the NL.
And the thing that, reallystands out for me.
It's not really something that'sever been done before.
I know they did the same thinglast year, but I think They've
really, upped it by adding thatlittle high school factor.
You can go onto a website, makeyour own high school that you
can play for, and stuff likethat as well.
And I just think it's a realgenius thing and I've been given
(08:54):
an absolute thrashing, not verywell mind you, but I haven't
seen another game that's comeclose to that sort of immersion,
you know what I mean?
Other than maybe cricket whereyou start out at club level and
build your way up through thestate and international t you
know, T 20 and stuff like that.
So yeah.
(09:15):
What do you reckon?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (09:15):
it's, I think it's the start of
something that's gonna progressand we'll start to see it more
games, especially from thatsporting side of things in.
Yeah, that's something that canbe delved right into and.
You can see it happening insoccer NBA baseball.
(09:36):
I, yeah, I think
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (09:38):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (09:38):
the way EA will probably take a lot
of their gaming games.
Sorry.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_0 (09:45):
It'd be, it'd be a pretty,
significant thing to 2K to forEA to implement a college
football game, a foot collegebasketball game, and, and do it
that way.
You know, it's, it, it'ssomething definitely unique and,
I I really love what they'redoing with it, to be honest.
Like, I can't, yeah, we, like,we've got the new rugby league
(10:10):
game and it's got its problems.
I don't mind it.
I don't hate it.
I'm happy to support it, to seeimprovements, but, you know,
with the pro team on, it'sabsolutely a, a, a step in the
right direction.
I know the gameplay is notfantastic, but I do think it's
an improvement on the last game.
(10:30):
I know it's very similar, but aswell.
NRL hasn't changed that muchother than a few rule changes,
and that over the years it'sstill the same sport and it's
the same with soccer.
Like how much can you actuallychange other than the things
that you can do within, I knowthere's some improvements that
they could do to career modewith fifa, but, or fc I don't
(10:52):
think I'll ever get used tocalling it FC to be honest.
Obviously always calling a fifa,but I think, I think that that's
a good thing for sports games ingeneral.
Like I play a lot of sportsgames.
I think it's an absolutely,fantastic initiative that
they've taken to do it and toconnect them.
Like that's just a, I thinkthey've done really well with
that, to be honest.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (11:13):
Yeah, well that's right and I hope
they do take it in thatdirection, really.
Like I do think they couldincorporate it into one game,
but yeah, it's, well, having twogames gives'em two bites of the
cherry really, doesn't it?
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (11:30):
Yeah, well that, that's the thing too.
So it, people don't know.
You can go get ea play, it won'tbe till after the season, but
you can get it free toexperience it.
So if you have ea play rightnow, you can play college 25 and
Madden 25 free of charge, otherthan the subscription price,
which is fairly cheap, but it'snot that expensive.
(11:53):
But to play.
But the next one will just comeup, you know, I only bought this
year's one'cause you mentionedit and I had the money there and
I couldn't help myself.
But I think it's a, I think it'sa great thing.
Anyways, so, yeah.
that's our, that's the thingsthat we've noticed this week
anyway, that we wanted to disOh, sorry.
There's one more thing I wantedto discuss.
(12:13):
So, waking up this morning, thiswasn't on last night's failed
episode, news.
Was that the n l's looking at.
Moving a state of origin game toNew Zealand in 2027.
I know for a while now that youknow there's only the one game.
Each played in Sydney, played inBrisbane, and then highest
bidder gets to Melbourne, Perth,Adelaide, and all of that Is
(12:38):
taking it to New Zealand theright step forward, you reckon?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (12:43):
I don't believe so.
But yeah, it's, I mean, goingback a couple of years ago, New
Zealand sacrificed a lot whenCOVID was happen on, by leaving
their side over here so theycould continue the season, but.
State of origin, It should bebetween New South Wales and
(13:07):
Queensland
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (13:08):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10 (13:09):
that's the game should be played,
right?
It should be their fan base.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (13:14):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_ (13:15):
incorporate New Zealand in the state of
origin?
Well bring in a New Zealandstate of Origins competition.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (13:23):
As, as ever, as you'd know, like the
NRL at the end of that, theday's a business, so they're
gonna chase that money and it'sprobably gonna be worthwhile for
the NLS interests of money-wiseto do that sort of thing, build
a bigger supporter base andstuff like that.
And origin is another beast.
(13:43):
Like, it's not like they'regonna take it out completely.
You'll still get to see yourgames.
I don't think it's really muchdifferent to going to Perth or
Melbourne or anything like that.
So people can still fly overthere and do it.
Do it as a trip, like to go andvisit New Zealand and watch the
state of origin game.
You know that that's a prettygood weekend away with mates or
(14:05):
with your family or anythinganyway, so you're not really
missing much.
We still get to see it on tv.
It's still the same players, soI don't think it's that big of a
deal to do it, to be honest.
I, I welcome it.
Like it's only gonna build asupporter base.
Nothing beats the atmosphere ofstate of origin and being at the
(14:26):
game and stuff.
I'd love to go as a New SouthWelshman.
I'd love to go to a Suncorp gamejust to experience the, you
know, that emotion and all ofthat.
So yeah, I don't, I don't thinkit's a bad thing.
that's what we've noticed thisweek anyway, so we can do a
little bit of a, sports wrap.
This week's probably gonna bevery NRL heavy with the end of
(14:49):
the season, start of the finalseries.
we can discuss, well, we'regonna discuss the teams that
missed out on the eight.
So the nine teams at the bottom,just as a whole.
we tried going throughindividually yesterday, but it
just took too long, so we'regonna try and do it in a little
bit of a snapshot and stuff likethat.
We can.
yeah, so I reckon the nights areprobably the most disappointing.
(15:15):
As a Knights fan yourself, Ithink they've really
disappointed themselves.
A lot of injuries did bringdown.
but they're obviously, they'llmissing in a few key spots.
O'Brien's been moved on.
I don't know if that wasnecessarily a, a team thing, but
I know the fans didn't want himthere.
(15:37):
Now we've got the problem ofgoing through trying to select a
new coach.
I think the nights should bereally disappointed in that
wooden spoon.
That effort that they put in onSunday was just ridiculous.
And I'm, I'm a do or die nightsfan.
I'll sit down and watch everygame no matter how good, bad, or
anything that we're going justto see progress.
But as soon 10 minutes inMitchell, Moses runs nearly the
(15:57):
full length of the field, whichis credit to Moses to notice
that opportunity and take off.
But the players that you see inthe back player that just back
off and don't even bother tochase is just really
disappointing.
And I, I turned it off afterthat.
I couldn't, I couldn't watch anymore of that.
So I hope they get the per theright person for the job.
(16:18):
'cause you know, Newcastle as awhole really needs a strong
footy team because it's got agreat supporter base behind
them.
But that are very passionate andI think that that's why you see
him get so upset about things.
Whether PGA stays or goes, I'meither, either, I'm happy for
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him to stay'cause he is a greatplayer.
You can't deny that he can be agood player.
But we've got Fletcher Sharpthere.
You know, we've got the peoplein place that can cover all
those positions.
And with that signing of Sand ofSmith, that just adds another
string to their bow.
Dylan Brown, I don't wanna saytoo much on that'cause honestly,
(17:01):
until next year, we're not gonnasee how that pans out'cause we
don't really know how he's gonnaplay.
People saying, well he is a fiveeighties, he gonna play half
back.
I've heard people say, FletcherSharp's gonna play half back.
So, yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (17:16):
Yeah, well was quite a disappointing
season for the Knights.
But yeah, like you said,injuries and that goes a lot of
those bottom nine teams, theinjuries to the right players at
the wrong time.
And yeah, I mean, we're alwaysgonna see it NR l's getting
faster and faster every year.
(17:36):
So we will, yeah, we we're gonnaget injuries and it's part of
the game, but the Knights justdidn't have the depth this year.
And same as South's, same as theCowboys.
They just, didn't have thatdepth to their squad.
And it's disappointing to seethose top eight teams or top 10
(17:56):
teams really drop right off.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (18:00):
Yeah.
And that's the disappointingthing.
You know, it's the depth.
So when you look at thecontracts like Conga and Dylan
Brown are on a mountain thatthat takes away from your debt.
So your juniors.
Have to be well coached to havethat next me up mentality.
Just like Penrith do, like youdo, you're gonna pay for these
top players to try and improveyour team.
(18:21):
Your, your junior developmentneeds to be top class to be able
to counter that and still have acompetitive team.
Otherwise, it's gonna take toomuch away.
I think Newcastle has just asgood a junior area as what
Penrith do, and I don't see anyreason why it shouldn't be like
that.
But you've gotta obviously putsomeone in place that's gonna be
(18:44):
able to nurture those juniorsand bring'em through into first
grade.
We're already seeing fruits oflittle things.
You've got Lucas, you've gotFletcher Sharp Crosland.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-1 (18:52):
Growing up playing footy in that
Newcastle area, I thinkNewcastle have, they've got a
really big area that they candraw from, but juniors coming
through that are really wantingto push that position.
I think.
Been only an hour and 45 minutesto go down the road to Sydney.
(19:14):
It's not that hard these days.
I think that's the part that thenights.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (19:21):
Yeah,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (19:22):
So,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (19:23):
you gotta build a club that the
locals wanna play for, to beproud of.
And at the moment there's verylittle to be proud of'em for
just the effort on the field.
And I think it comes back on theplayers
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10 (19:33):
That's right.
And it's not only the juniorsthat are coming through like
you, it's been able to getplayers that want to come and
play for the club that arealready in there, NRL as well.
Like you got these players likeBrown and they've had to bring
in, but they've had to pay oversto get'em there.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (19:55):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I would like to see, likepersonally when I had a think
about it, had a look at thecandidates and stuff, I think
Holbrooks me number one forcoach.
'cause he didn't really do thatbad a job at the Titans.
The Titans didn't give himenough time.
Uh, Peter PAs moving into a CEOrole.
So there's a football directorrole there, I believe, unless
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they've already filled it, I'mnot a hundred percent sure.
But if they haven't filled thatrole, that's where I'd look at
someone like Michael Checker,who's worked with the Wallabies
and worked overseas in codesthat, you know, can help out in
that aspect of bringing juniorsthrough and the me and manager
whole type of thing.
Sort of a Gus School type role.
I think he'd be better suitedfor that.
(20:35):
I know he doesn't have.
That much NRL experience, but Ithink he's passionate enough,
I've seen him talk and stuffabout that, about how he'd set
it up and all of that.
So a coaching director role forhim, I think it'd be be a
fantastic job.
Blake Green, I know that he'skind of a dirty word because of
the attack that the Knight's hadthis year, but I, I firmly
(20:56):
believe Adam O'Brien was thehead coach.
So everything that wasimplemented come through Adam
O'Brien and Blake Green's onlyworking to what he's been told
to, with, with not as muchinput.
And at the same time, theybrought Dylan Brown and the
whole thing was around that theywere gonna change the attack,
but they needed, they probablyjust needed that one piece to be
(21:18):
able to implement that sort ofattack.
So, you know, they've got goodyoung players coming through and
I just hope they really nurture'em and, you know, build'em into
the players that, that theyshould be.
Dylan Lucas, to me, is a out andout origin player.
But a lot of improvement thereon the night sent on Knights
front anyway.
But when you look at the othernine, well the Dragons and the
(21:41):
Titans nights, I'd group themall into a very disappointing
season.
Maybe even the ose, a lot ofinjuries.
Um, losing Humphreys is probablya big factor in that, plus a
rookie halfback, not many gamesunder his belt, but he is
obviously gonna be building intoa very, very good player in the
future.
So I think they'll be rightgoing into the future.
(22:03):
They've got Wayne Bennett there.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (22:05):
I think Souths are good with that,
those younger players comingthrough and they, they still
competed in football games, so Ithink their mentalities there.
was able to get'em up to playthe game.
They just couldn't get'em overthe line like, but again,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (22:25):
Yeah.
Well.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (22:26):
key players.
So think for South.
From out outside perspectivelooking in, I think Jay Gray's a
big, big plus for them, and Iknow Wayne Bennett says that
Mitchell's is one.
I would like to see Ja Gray stayat one.
Otherwise, that's probablylosing.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (22:47):
Yeah, well, I like Latrell being in
the centers.
I like him being a fullback.
He's a damaging player when hecan be.
That's probably the closest thatwe'll get to Greg Inglis, him or
Cobo, you know, you see thosetraits in them.
I've always had big wraps onLatrell Mitchell, but obviously
he is off field stuff and stufflike that lets him down.
Sometimes his suspensionsinjuries, but I don't think
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they're in a bad position.
they'll improve the way theeels.
I'll jump up a little bit.
the eels, obviously MitchellMoses is a main part of that
attack and as soon as he comeup, come back, they've
skyrocketed back up the ladder.
So I think Jason Rolls has donea pretty good job.
(23:30):
He's got rid of some dead wood.
He's started bringing throughsome youth and stuff like that
and I think next year or theyear after, you'll start seeing
the fruits of his work.
I think he's gonna improve thateel's team and prove it to be a
good decision to take him on andmove Brad Arthur on anyway.
But, and the same with theTigers.
I think the Tigers should behappy with this season.
(23:51):
They've risen off that woodenspoon, three wooden spoons.
they've come from finished therein 13th.
You know, I think it's a bigimprovement.
I think Benji's gonna be thatperson to build that culture and
bring these players in and it'syet to be seen.
You still.
a young coach, but it's stillgonna be yet to same.
Whether or not he's the coachthat could take him to a
(24:13):
premiership or even into finals.
But it's a good work in process.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (24:18):
Yeah, that's right.
Benji's Tigers through andthrough.
So yeah, think is the rightperson for that job at West
Tigers, whether he's the coachthat wins him the next
premiership or not, well, that'syet to be determined, but he's
definitely got them going inthe, in the right spot.
(24:40):
as for me, me, north QueenslandCowboys, well, they were a bit
of a disappointment former fromfifth last year to 12th this
year.
But yeah, the injuries to thatforward pack losing McLean and
through the middle part of theyear, and then seven players off
(25:00):
playing origin.
It, it hurts, but again, depthreally is a big thing.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (25:07):
I think it,
squadcaster-i07e_1_ (25:08):
interesting to see how they go with another
full preseason with those fewyoung players
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (25:14):
yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (25:14):
debut this year.
Like, uh, they're only gonna getbetter those younger kids.
So,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (25:21):
Yeah.
I've got a, I can, I can look atthe West Tigers and I can see
like the same sort of thing aswhat the Bulldogs have done.
I think they're on the same sortof trajectory, so I think
they're in a good place.
I think they're only gonna getbetter from here.
We've got Paul going next year,who's a decent player.
(25:41):
Don't think he was utilized wellenough for the nights.
I think he can only get better.
And maybe that's the team forhim to get better.
It'll, they're a lot moreexciting attack than what the
nights are, so it should createmore space for him.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (25:57):
Yeah,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (25:58):
but I, I'd be happy to say from 14th
through to ninth, where thedolphins are there, you know,
none of those teams needanything drastic, like a rebuild
or anything like that.
Injury's been the, the maincause of it.
The rabbit's lost a lot ofplayers through injury.
The tigers have improved fromwhat they were last year.
They're only on the upwardCowboys had a few injuries, but
(26:19):
they've got players like PerduDen, they've got good players
around there that's gonnaimprove it.
And the eels with MitchellMoses, just completely different
team.
Sea Eagles lose DCE, but Fogartyis not a bad replacement.
And you know, might free up somesalary cup space for them to
make some moves, to bring insome more players and just
(26:42):
change the dynamic.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10 (26:43):
that's right.
Fogarty coming in there.
He plays different to DCE, sotheir attack change a little bit
and it could be
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09- (26:53):
I,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (26:53):
the better.
Like Tommy Turbo's been playingwith DCE for years now.
So bringing in the new halfbackand the new general into that
side, Fogarty could quite wellopen.
Luke Brooks and Tommy Turboright up.
Manley's an interesting one tokeep an eye on for next season.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (27:14):
yeah.
Yeah.
And the Dolphins, I think theymake the eight next year.
I honestly do they get a bitmore depth in there, move some,
move some things around because,they're only one or two wins
away from being in the eighththis year.
And for a club that's only beenaround for three years, that's,
that's a pretty decent standingand, you know, proves that there
(27:34):
is enough players to supportthis current competition.
As for the Bears and the p and gteams, I personally believe
there's plenty of players outthere.
You've just gotta put the rightpeople in place to coach'em
properly.
And each general team only has atop 30, those top 30 of the
players that are trainingfull-time with the squad and
(27:55):
stuff like that.
And then your players inQueensland Cup, new South Wales
Cup, they're, they're thepart-time working, they're not
full-time training with thefirst grade squad.
So some of them players pick upcontracts as a full-time rugby
league player.
They're only gonna get betterfrom there, I think.
So I believe that thecompetition is s in a pretty
good spot.
I think that we couldcomfortably go to 20 teams and
(28:17):
what happens from there is whathappens.
So, I think it'll be good.
And I think the Dolphins havekind of proved that, you know,
you can put that other team inand it can be successful.
I know the titans are a littlebit of a downer, but you know,
there's the times don't seem togive coaches or enough time to
build anything around that club.
(28:38):
So hopefully Josh Hanna comes inthere and builds a good culture.
And, you know, I do believe thatyou'll probably be a fairly
decent coach from what I've seenand what I've read.
and good luck to him with it.
Like you need to have a closecompetition and that's what
brings excitement.
That's what brings views.
And you want all your fanswatching their team succeed.
(29:01):
So hopefully these teams will beon the bounce back for everyone
next year.
And, you know, it's a lot di alot different discussion.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (29:09):
Yeah.
Well that'd be quite nice to seethe cowboys go back up there.
That's for sure.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (29:16):
Yeah.
Well, I,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (29:17):
I mean, I think it'd be good to
see the NRL ladder change alittle bit like we, we see in
multiple other sports throughoutthe world that it could get
quite repetitive with the sameteams in the same positions all
the time.
So
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (29:35):
yeah,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (29:36):
teams drop in and out of the eight and
then it's good like there, it'sin the right direction.
the-incoherent-podcast_1 (29:43):
That's one thing with what I've found
following the NFL, I've beenfollowing it for the last couple
of years, getting really intoit, is how they implement their
draft and their trading systemsand just the way that they run
their competition that, youknow, I know that the Chiefs
have been in a fair few SuperBowls lately.
But that's just a, a well runfranchise to be completely
(30:05):
honest.
And there's not, there's a fewteams that aren't as far behind
them as what you might think onthat perspective.
Like the Bills and the Ravensare sitting there right behind
them in the, in the same sort ofthing.
You know, the Eagles are thecurrent champions.
I thought the Chiefs would'vedone it, but they didn't.
But that's one thing with theNFL.
(30:26):
They have their draft where, youknow, they trade their draft
picks, but usually the numberone pick is for that team that
comes last.
Overall, they get that firstselection at the best college
player that's coming through.
I, I'm all for implementing adraft into the NRL and making an
event around it.
I know why people don't.
(30:47):
American sports and Australiansports are two completely
different things the way they'rerun, but it does work well.
I know in a FL they have theirdraft and they've got their
rules around, around that draft.
It's not quite what the Americanone is, but I, I'd love to see
'em implement that sort of thingto help build up the, build up
(31:07):
these bottom teams so thatthey're getting these star
players without overpaying forit and blowing their salary cap
out.
'cause that's basically whathappens.
Like those teams are the knightsand the Titans for sure have to
pay way more than what theyreally should, like to be paid
to play sport in Newcastle andthe Gold Coast.
For me, somebody that doesn'tplay professional football, I,
(31:30):
I'd be happy just to do that.
Like those two places would beoutstanding to live in and get
paid for, it doesn't, it doesn'treally make much sense to me.
And, the NRL come out this weekand said about, the.
They're thinking aboutimplementing a wild card round,
which is also an NFL thing.
I don't think the competition'sready for that.
(31:54):
I think you need a few moreteams, and I think once you get
to that 18, 19, 20 realm, Ithink you've gotta cut down
because as it stands, it was thetop eight are basically the half
comp, half of the competitionplay finals and then you're
going away from that.
Or do you, would you rather seethe competition, like minimize
(32:14):
that so that it is fewer teamsthat get that finals per.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-202 (32:20):
Go to the EPL side of things and.
You.
If you're going to go to moreteams, you could just scrap the
final series, a few more roundsin, and at the end of the season
if you are good enough to be ontop, you are good enough to be
crowned champion.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (32:39):
Yeah, I, I do think that it's
underestimated when a team winsthe competition, but at the same
time, EPL has promotion andrelegation.
I don't think that system worksfrom an NRL point of view, and I
don't think the Australianpublic really get that sort of
mentality.
They want that finals, they wantthat underdog to win that grand
(33:01):
final, you know, where the NFLhas their, their conference
system, and you can minimize therounds.
I, I don't really think thatevery team has to play each
other twice.
I think you can get away witheach play, each team plays each
other once have 19 rounds andthen have a final series off
that if you didn't split it upinto conferences.
(33:22):
But if you're gonna doconferences, I truly believe
that you should have a draw atthe start of the season to pick
which teams are in what, whichconference that you.
I don't think you canregionalize'em like the NFL is,
which it really isn't.
They're kind of here and there,dabbled in.
I still haven't worked out whatthe system is for that, so,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (33:43):
Yeah.
Conferences, it's a, in myopinion, it's a, it's something
that could potentially work,but, and we've spoke about this
numerous times over the years,but it'd take the higher ups
within the NRL to really sitdown and over it and nut it out
(34:03):
properly
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (34:05):
yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (34:05):
run properly.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09- (34:07):
I, I think you just want your best
chance at a close competition.
And the draft's only gonna workif you take away the junior
development away from clubs andhave clubs stand on their own.
And the NRL runs a separatecompetition in like an under 20
site format where they, wherethey don't, the NRL runs it, not
(34:27):
the clubs.
A lot of the clubs don't have,don't run the juniors.
And that's the way it's goingto, because then you don't get
the teams like Penrith and that,well, they're our junior, why
should we give it up to you?
But it'd have to be allformatted for that to work, but
to create excitement.
I, I'm all for it.
I don't think it'll ever happen.
(34:49):
I think that we're about, we'renot too, we're a few years off.
Sam Val's implement AmericanSystems anyway, but I don't
think the draft's gonna be athing.
back.
You all good?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (35:03):
Yeah, yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (35:03):
the NFL started this week.
I didn't get to watch many games'cause I was working over the,
over the time it was on becausetheir, most of their games are
played on Monday.
I was on Monday day shift andit's played through the day.
I've gotta see a couple ofgames.
But the only thing I'm gonna sayon that this week is that, you
know, the Ravens got beat by onepoint.
They scored 40 points, got beat41 40 by the pills, who are a
(35:27):
Super Bowl contender, just likethe Ravens.
But the, the Ravens just becamethe first team in NFL history to
score 40 points and get beaten,which is a bit of a Deanna to be
honest.
But both, both those teams haveexciting offenses that can score
a lot of points and they've gotthe, two of the best
quarterbacks in the entirecompetition.
(35:48):
It's, disappointing from aRavens fan point of view.
But we'll see how thattranspires over the season.
the one other thing that I didsee outta the NFL this week was,
old mate spitting on the DallasCowboys quarterback.
You can't be doing that.
Just all, you can't just bespitting at people.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (36:09):
Yeah, well I know you get, get your
ass kicked.
You do that back where we arefrom.
But anyway, that's, he's doneit.
He's, he's caught his suspensionand we'll, we'll see how that
pans out next time they face offagainst each other.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (36:27):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-202 (36:28):
So there's some, uh, some big boys
that'll be out chasing him.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (36:32):
Yeah.
Well, I started at that, startedof the game.
You got thrown outta the gamebecause of it., It's.
Yeah, you, you can't be doingthat.
And then the other thing that Inoticed was, Lamar Jackson from
the Ravens, had a little talkabout, you know, they'll
celebrating and a fan hit two ofthe players on the head when
they're up against the fence andLamar's pushed old mate back
(36:52):
over the fence.
don't go touching players whenyou go to the games.
That's all I can say.
He is only reacting to somethingthat a fan's done.
Like, don't be going and doingthat stuff.
it's, it's not needed.
I understand people arepassionate and stuff, but I
don't think there's any need forthat.
There's probably not gonna beanything come of that, but I'm
(37:13):
sure if Lamar had his time overagain, he'd probably, you know,
try to ignore it a little bitbetter.
It'd be pretty hard to ignoreall of that stuff.
So.
Nottingham Forest have announcedthis morning that Ang is gonna
be, their coach going forward inthe EPL.
I think it's a great thing for,Australian soccer football, that
(37:35):
we've got an Australian coachthat's over there competing at,
you know, the elite of theworld, in the coaching realm of
things.
And he has proven that he doeswin trophies.
So I don't think he's prettygood.
I think he's pretty good mateswith the billionaire owner, but
it'd be really interesting tosee how he goes with a probably
slightly lesser team thanTottenham, though.
(37:56):
Tottenham doesn't, they're kindof here or there, aren't they?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (38:00):
Oh, that's right.
I was kind of surprised whenTottenham got rid of the inch.
So he just won the Europa withhim and then Yeah, he didn't
quite do as well in the actualEPL as what they were hoping.
So they got rid of him, butyeah, to the C, not them.
(38:24):
Forest pick him up.
Well.
That'd be interesting to seewhether they can implement his
kind of play style.
So yeah, he's a, he's a veryattacking minded coach and well,
not being the bottom of thepecking order in the EPL.
(38:44):
So, I mean, he's got anothercrack at Europa as well this
year with Ham that they managedto pick up a spot after
finishing seventh last year.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (38:58):
Yeah, so my expect, my expertise in
the soccer goes to, I've won agrand final and that's about it.
I played one season of soccer.
Zach was the coach.
It was a little bit of fun atthe time, you know, won a grand
final doing it.
I do watch it a little bit.
I support Liverpool, Zachsports, me and city.
(39:18):
so I have little input for it,but I'm gonna try the best and
try to get cross coverage andstuff.
I found it really hard to followEPL once KO lost the rights or
Fox lost the rights'cause that'swhere I get most of my sport
content from.
But I've recently got the NFLPass so I can watch a lot of NFL
(39:40):
games'cause I've been right intoit and it just kind of works out
well that it goes from footyseason, the end of footy season,
pretty much through to the startof the preseason for NRL.
And I working in the mines onthe shifts and that I get, I get
to watch a lot of it and pay alot of attention to it.
but the EPLs on Stand now andyou've got it on stand and
(40:01):
you'll get up early hours in themorning to watch it.
Do you think that it's a bigimprovement or doesn't really
matter?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (40:08):
No, it's not much of a change.
It's just different streamingrights of Stan taking over than
what Optus had.
But yeah, it's, I don't.
It's, yeah.
big, big change there.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (40:23):
Yeah, I, I hate the fact that
different sports have all oftheir coverage on different apps
and different streamingservices, and it's bad enough
that there's TV shows and moviesand that, that are, you gotta go
through six different streamingservices just to find what
you're looking for.
You know, it's a little bitannoying, but I've found with
the NFL past that.
(40:45):
They don't show every game.
But in, in saying that I haven'tsat there on a Sunday to see
what it's all about.
And I'm looking forward tositting down on a Sunday and
seeing what games they have andwhether or not it's gonna be
beneficial to me.
'cause it is quite expensive.
But I will say that it does havethose little extra things on
there, like documentaries andstuff like that.
'cause I love sports history andstuff like that.
(41:05):
And the NFL really gravitatetowards watching the history of
that and learning about it.
it's just through the historyand learning about Baltimore
that I even became a Baltimorefan to begin with.
and I'm just as passionate aboutthe Ravens as I am end of the
Knights.
It's, it's unbelievable.
I went a long time where I sortof NFL was there, but I couldn't
really pick a team.
(41:26):
But, you know, I don't know, Idunno about you, but I was, I'm
yet to see whether or not theNRL come up with their own sort
of NFL pass type thing.
Like an NRL pass.
And I dunno if that'd be morebeneficial to'em.
I think it would bring moremoney into'em, but I think they,
they'd still need thosebroadcast deals with say, like a
(41:47):
free to air nine or ko anyway.
but what, what do you reckon?
You reckon that's just the wayit's going now?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09 (41:54):
Overseas.
I think it's going that way, butI think NRL, they'll stick the
Fox footy.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (42:00):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (42:01):
Yeah.
I think, not being a, such aworld broadcasted sport, I think
it's gonna be hard for him tosort of implement a, an app.
But I think, yeah, leaving itwith Fox Sport and having the,
the ability to just go there andwatch back to back games or
recaps, it's already there.
(42:21):
It's, I think that's whatthey'll persist with.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (42:25):
Yeah, there's one, there is one part
of the NFL Pass that I really dolike is, they've got coaches
view, like a coach's tape andyou can sit there and watch it.
No commentary, no nothing likethat.
It's just up in the stands.
You get the full view of thewhole field and what everyone's
doing and stuff like that.
I can go back and watch theSuper Bowl in that sort of view
without any commentary.
(42:46):
No ads, nothing like that.
And for someone that's trying tolearn the game and watch things,
it's really beneficial to me tosit down and watch those sort of
tapes and take it all in.
But I would love that sort ofthing.
In an NRL setting, I reallywould like, I like gonna the
games, sitting up there onhalfway and seeing what every
player's doing.
I don't like the way theybroadcast NRL'cause I don't like
(43:08):
zooming in on the play the ball.
It drives me nuts.
Or when they're focusing on aplayer that's triggering, got a
little mingle, but there'saction happening over the back
and you miss half of it becauseof it.
You know what I mean?
really drives me nuts and Ireally wish they'd put that
little screen that they put thefull action on rather than the
replay.
I wish they'd flipped that sothat the replay's on the little
(43:29):
screen, like it's just a littlething that annoys me.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (43:33):
Yeah, well maybe something you just
gotta suck up, I guess.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (43:38):
yeah.
Well I think the NL havebroadcasting rights coming up
soon, so.
You know, I think that's thewhole implementation of like
implementing the Bears extragame to offer and stuff like
that.
And, all the, all the peoplethat you're sitting out and you
say, oh, the NRL don't get asmany fans as the A A FL and
stuff like that.
At the end of the day, the NRLmakes majority of their money
(44:00):
off broadcasting rights.
So you can't tell me they don'twant you sitting at home
watching it.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10 (44:05):
That's right.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (44:07):
The more eyes they get on a screen,
the more money that the morevaluable it is to that network
that wants to broadcast it.
So that's why State of Origin'ssuch a big, a big thing to grab.
'cause they want everyonewatching that.
That's why Channel Nine's gotthe rights to it solely and
you've gotta watch a replay onKao so they can get all the eyes
that they possibly can.
(44:27):
I'd rather watch it on Kako.
I, I don't like the ninecommentary too much, but unless
Blocker, roaches commentate,that really does me head in and
for some reason does all nightsgames.
That's our sports wrap for theweek anyway.
And we'll move away from thesports and move on to a little
bit of gaming stuff.
There wasn't too much gamingstuff that I found this week,
(44:48):
other than I've been playing alot of college football.
but I've seen a lot of lot comeup with PS five, PS six coming
soon.
Do you think we're ready for aPS six?
I feel like I've only just gotme PS five.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (45:01):
They, they sort of, yeah, release that
new console every few years.
And I think because a lot ofpeople got their systems during
that COVID period, a lot ofpeople had time to play it a
lot.
So it is sort of a little bitoutdated in, in such, but yeah,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (45:24):
I think that's just the technology
thing and things get outdatedall the time.
Like you go by a TV now andthree weeks later it's outdated.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (45:31):
a hundred percent.
And I think that's why we aresort of ready for that.
PS six,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (45:39):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2 (45:40):
they change a few little things that
I'd, I'd love to see it morememory.
that's a big one for me.
I think games are getting biggerevery time they're getting
released, so.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (45:53):
are huge.
I've, I've pretty much stoppedbuying cod games when I love
playing multiplayer on Call ofDuty games, but it's just too
big and every time you get anupdate, it just about fuels up
the whole thing.
And you don't have a selectionof games there.
And I don't wanna sit down onthe lounge and wait for a game
to download for an hour or two,you know?
(46:15):
Like, I've got pretty shitinternet, but you know, I don't
wanna be doing that sort ofstuff.
And I think they really droppedthe ball when they took away,
you know, I know you can put PSfour games on a hard drive and
play'em directly from the harddrive, but you can't do that
with PS five games.
And I'd really like to see'embring that back where you can
have the external hard drive.
I, I know that you can changethe system, but if you're
(46:37):
anything like me and Zachfiddling around with things like
that and the potential ofbreaking, it scares the shit out
of us.
And it is quite expensive.
Like, you know, I would probablyput Okay, memory card.
Memory card would be prettysick.
Not really.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (46:56):
go, go retro, implement the old PS
one and
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (47:00):
Okay.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2 (47:00):
when they bring out the new PS six,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (47:02):
Yeah, well the, you know what I did
notice is that the only thingthat I found on a PS six is that
they're thinking about having adeta detachable disc drive.
Now I've got a disc drive PSfive.
I bought that intentionally'cause I could play my old for
PS four games on it, and I had aheap of discs On PS four, I have
very minimal PS five disks.
(47:25):
Most of mine are downloadedstraight from the PSN store.
Do you really think that we needdisks this day and age?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (47:33):
no, I don't think we do, and I also
don't think that again shouldcost as much as what they do.
When you don't get that.
Actual disk, like something andit's strictly downloaded to our
system.
I
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (47:50):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-1 (47:52):
doesn't need to be$140 when I'm going to
EB games and buy the same gamewith a dis for$140.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (47:59):
I would love to see how they work
that out.
That it's the same price on thestore when you've got shipping.
You've got marketing, you've gotall of that other stuff, but you
can just download it.
Like, they don't have to makethe dis the case.
The marketing would be just the,the covers and stuff like that
when they can put it straightonto the thing and you just
download it.
Like, most people have internetthese days.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (48:22):
yeah.
And I, I do, do understand likethey've gotta make money so that
they can then
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (48:28):
yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (48:28):
and whatnot, but
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (48:30):
But there, there is a point of
getting greedy.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10 (48:33):
That's right.
If it's
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09- (48:35):
I,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (48:35):
a hundred and or a hundred dollars
game and they knock it back to80 because you're gonna buy
online rather than buy the DISversion,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (48:43):
yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (48:43):
think they'd have more sales.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (48:46):
Yeah.
But that, that also, no, you'reright.
Go.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2 (48:52):
I've lost the train of thought now.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (48:54):
No, I was just gonna say like the
part of, oh, just doing this,like, it brings me on to me next
point.
That's all.
It's kind of a, good segue isthat a lot of games these days
are remakes, and I understandthe nostalgia.
I've got a heap of remakes thatI play all the time as well.
Like, I'm not saying that aremakes a bad thing, but when
(49:16):
you've got something like metalgear solid where they've come
and made a rebate out of thesnake eater game, they haven't
made a metal gear solid game,standalone game for ages.
Like, would you rather'em goback and remake that game or
would you rather'em have a go ata new game?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (49:35):
I would like to see'em develop a
new game, I think.
But yeah, it's, understand whythey remake a lot of those games
with the, the new technologycoming out and it's, yeah,
everything's sort of highdefinition now, so
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (49:53):
Yeah, I can understand.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (49:55):
older games, revamping them to, to
suit that high definitionresolution.
That's, it is a good thing.
But again, yeah, I'd like to seehim
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (50:08):
I just want a
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-202 (50:09):
at me.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (50:09):
new experience.
Like there's, there's good gamesout there.
You know, the, the series of'emkind of works, works with that.
Like I know that you are all fora remake of need for Speed
underground too,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2025 (50:23):
A
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (50:23):
and I'm all for that.
Because that was a great game.
But if I was to go down to it,I'd rather make a need for Speed
underground three and have acompletely new sort of thing to
it.
You know, having have a newstory, I think that'd be a more,
that'd be a more financial typething to go to towards, rather
(50:44):
than upgrading Need for speedtoo.
'cause need for Speed series,when you go through'em all,
they're all over the place fordifferent things.
And that underground series wasliterally street racing.
It was fast and the Furious.
It's what was big at the time.
And you could do so manycustomizations and all of that.
And I know they've tried to doit, since, but it ha it just
hasn't quite hit the same.
(51:05):
But I'd love to see him go backto that same sort of formula
with a little bit of a upgradeto things and stuff like that,
you know, but I'm, I love meracing games, but I'm more a,
these days I'm more grandcharisma or, you know, the
project cars one was prettygood.
till three that completelychanged it.
(51:26):
But I like those realistic pitstops, you know, because I, I
love supercars and stuff likethat, but I'm more for the
longer endurance races, raceslike Bathurst and stuff like
that, that's what gets meexcited and that's what I want
in a game, you know, I wantthat, that side of things.
And I think there is a few gamesthat are coming out soon that
(51:49):
sort of come around that, a SetoCosta that that's, that's in the
right domain.
I find it very difficult, but,you know, I've got the VR there,
so I love playing Grand Truowith me vr and I'd love to get a
steering wheel one day and havethe full immersion of it.
I think that's an absolute winfor Grand Truo where they went
(52:11):
on that.
I know not everyone likes GrandTruo, but I, I quite enjoy, I
put a lot of hours into GreenTrees mate.
Personally.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-202 (52:19):
as long as you're playing grand and
vr, you'll keep your hands outof the fan above you.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (52:25):
yeah, well that's true too.
So nobody, nobody on here shouldknow UN unless you know me.
But yeah, I started the yearplaying VR and having a great
time until I stuck my hand inthe air and hit the ceiling fan
and cut my thumb off.
So well, broke me thumb in thefan and cut it in half.
So, yeah, that wasn't, I don'trecommend that.
(52:50):
So use VR with caution, whichwhile we're on the VR thing, I
haven't got it written down forus to talk about.
I think they put a lot moreeffort into the VR concept.
I think that it can really gosomewhere, like I've played
Resident Evil and stuff on thatvr, and it's so immersive.
Like even to the point of I'msitting there getting chased by
(53:12):
some big bitch.
I mean, Mrs grabbed me on theshoulder at the same time that
scared the absolute living shitoutta me.
But, you know, it just shows howimmersive it is.
You put the ear earphones in andyou just go onto it and, you
know, for a story mode game andthe way to do it, I know some
people get sick with it.
I got motion sickness when Ifirst started using it, but you
(53:32):
build a tolerance to it.
You need to sort of stick withit and don't play it for too
long, you know, sort of.
But it ended up that I wassitting there doing frigging, I
was that bored when I wasfrigging, cut me thumb off'cause
I couldn't work, couldn't doanything.
And I was sitting there playinggrand tr mail and I'd done a
full Bathurst, like, it tookhours obviously, but I could sit
(53:55):
and tolerate it.
I don't recommend doing it.
But yeah, I think vrs really gota future in gaming.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (54:03):
You reckon vr, NRL.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (54:06):
I don't think it works like it.
It could work.
I'd love to see how they'd tryto implement it, but I don't
think it works.
I've got an NFL VR game andthat's pretty cool.
But you, like, you're thequarterback and you throw it,
there's a way of running andstuff like that.
It's kind of difficult, but it'sstill pretty fun to play.
(54:27):
Like I really do enjoy it.
the golf games that I've seen,like the mini golf on, it's
probably unbelievable.
It's one of my favorite games.
I just cut me thumb off doingit.
But you can get other golf gameson it that, you know, I like
playing golf and me and you, welove playing golf.
We go play golf together.
But to have that opportunitywhen it's, you know, we can't
(54:50):
organize to go and play anactual game, to be able to jump
online and play against yourmate and play it frigging, you
know, any golf course in theworld.
I think that'd be unbelievable,to be honest.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (55:03):
Yeah, that's right.
We will see how that one pansout anyway.
'cause I think it's only gonnaget better.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (55:10):
I think it is.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (55:11):
the more people purchase it and put
money and want behind it, Ithink it,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (55:18):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (55:19):
the developers something to strive
to better each, each time.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (55:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's just the thing.
It's a, it's another expense.
Like I, my wife bought it for usfor Christmas as a family gift,
and it is like buying a secondsystem.
That's the, that's probably the.
The biggest downside to it is,you know, it's an extra expense,
but I think it's a good bit ofgear.
Anyway, I, I wouldn't get rid ofit.
I haven't played it in a while.
(55:45):
haven't really had much time,but, you know, I'm slowly
letting the, the catalog buildup a little bit.
'cause when I first got it, it,it wasn't too many games that
you could play with it.
But if you're gonna give it a gothough, I, I do highly recommend
the, resident evil ones if youknow, you're like that sort of
horror thing.
'cause I thought that wasabsolutely fantastic.
(56:06):
But yeah, that, I'd like to see'em go into the fully developed
games rather than the sort ofindie novelty games like the NFL
and the mini golf and that like,they have a full thing.
It'd be probably an improvementon it and hopefully more
developers will take on thattask.
'cause there is a few games thatare full ones on there.
(56:28):
They're just a bit moreexpensive obviously.
But yeah.
Anything else that you'venoticed in gaming this week?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2 (56:36):
Nah, not really.
yeah, there's a couple ofnew-ish games that I'm probably
gonna have a look at over theweekend.
But I'll get back to you guysnext week on that one.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (56:47):
Yeah, and if you wonder and how we
find time to play heaps of gamesand watch sport, we play games
and then watch sport on ourphones, so it's always in the
background, unless it's like abig thing we wanna watch on the
tv, but you know, we kind of, westill have time for our kids and
families and that, and we're notjust all this, so, yeah.
(57:11):
All right.
Move on to the next thing, ourbold predictions.
Zach, what are your boldpredictions for this week?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-202 (57:20):
My poor predictions first one this
week I Sharks are gonna fail atanother final series.
The chooks are gonna go to SharkPark and knock'em over.
I think it'd be a nice tightgame, but I think Roosters have
just, they've built somethingthis season and the back end of
(57:41):
this season, they've just beenfiring on all cylinders.
So, but yeah.
Bow prediction roosters to beatthe sharks by four.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (57:52):
Yeah, I, I honestly believe all the
games starting this week, thisfinal series is gonna be close.
It's gonna be tight, and it'sgonna be well worth watching,
and I'm glad that I'm off thisweekend to, to be able to watch
it.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2 (58:04):
next bold prediction
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (58:06):
Okay.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (58:07):
doggy started the season, well,
they'll lead the competition atone point, but I think they go
out in straight sets.
they get beat by Melbourne inMelbourne and then, yeah, week
two, I think they fall on thesame side as Penrith, and think
Penrith will knock'em over inweek two.
(58:27):
So.
Doggies out in straight sets.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09- (58:30):
Do you stick by that if the
Warriors get over the Panthersin New Zealand?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (58:35):
Well, that'd make for a very
interesting game between
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (58:40):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (58:40):
and the dogs.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (58:41):
Well, it's your bold prediction now,
so it's locked in.
You can't go back on it.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (58:45):
and number three, bold prediction to
me, Chester Derby this weekend.
Manchester City.
Three one
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (58:55):
Three one you reckon,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (58:57):
yeah,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (58:58):
and then.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10 (58:59):
couple of quiet weeks.
The last couple of rounds forthe city.
But yeah, I think United, they,they always get up for that City
United Derby and, yeah.
Three one the city.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (59:14):
Yeah, well they're probably, uh, what
are in for again, three gamesnow I,
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (59:23):
Yeah, three games in, so round four
this week.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09 (59:26):
and sitting in 13, so they've lost
two.
So yeah, I dunno think Liverpoolare on a good trajectory anyway.
Three from three.
So yeah.
it's my bold predictions forthis week.
I've got, at number one, I thinkCanberra are gonna win in
Canberra against the Broncos.
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I know that's probably a littlebit of a cop out, but'cause
Broncos are a little bit understrength.
But I really don't think thatthe Broncos can go down there
and beat Canberra.
I know that they're going wellat the moment, but I, I don't
see it happening.
And I think the Broncos areplaying next week.
I think Reynolds and Mim comeback next week.
And that's, that's the thingabout the Broncos.
(01:00:09):
They've got those players tocome back.
They, they could do anythingfrom here on out and it wouldn't
surprise me if they went on towin it.
It wouldn't surprise me if theywent out in straight sets.
It's just the Broncos are justone of those teams.
But if I'm a Bronco supporter,I'm probably believing, imagine
these are going deep into thefinals anyway.
Hmm.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10- (01:00:29):
Close game reckon so.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-1 (01:00:31):
I think all the final games are
gonna be close and good.
You know, I think it's gonna bea good weekend of footy to be
honest.
Get around it.
I mean, number two is the Ravenswill bounced back from their
loss to the bills against theBrowns, and I think Derrick
Henry will run for 200.
Plus yards in that win.
(01:00:52):
Derrick Henry, obviously anabsolutely phenomenal player,
between him and Lamar.
That's just, that's scary for adefense to come up against when
you can hear, they hand it offto him or he can run himself or,
you know, Lamar can throwhimself.
It's, it's a really rounded outoffense that they've got.
So they've got Hopkins andfliers there that are pretty
(01:01:15):
good receivers as well.
That'll probably take him.
I, I, I'm playing, if I wasgonna have a real bowl
prediction, I'd say I'd sayRavens will win Super Bowl.
I'm dead set in belief this yearthat this is our year, so it's
not me.
Bold prediction.
I'm just gonna bounce back, butyeah, we'll, we'll see how we
go.
(01:01:36):
We'll give it a couple of weeksbefore I unleash that and my
number one prediction.
Is that the Incoherent podcastwill get 25 listens in its first
week, this being episode one.
And for that to happen, peoplethat are listening and got this
far through our dribble andprobably realize why it's called
the Incoherent podcast, is ifyou can share, like, you know,
(01:02:00):
tell your friends, come and joinus.
Like we said, we wanna try andbuild a community around this
whole podcast and have peoplethat we can discuss about sport
games, you know, set up tippingcomps, super coaches, online
games.
we've both got the PlayStation,we've both got laptops, for
gaming and stuff like that.
I don't do much on my laptop,unless I'm, you know, a foot
(01:02:24):
football manager and citybuilding sort of games is sort
of what I leave that for'cause Ilike the mouse control of it.
But yeah, if you just can go andhave a look for the Incoherent
podcast on Instagram andFacebook, give us a, like, give
us a follow, give us a sharethis episode.
I'll post that up on both ofthem.
If you could give that a shareand see how many people, see if
(01:02:46):
we can build this podcast intosomething and really get around
the whole thing of sports andgaming.
So yeah, that, that'd be great.
Have you got anything else?
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-20 (01:02:59):
No, that's pretty much it for week
one.
next episode, we'll, you won'tdelete it and we won't, we'll
have, be able to release it ontime.
for a Thursday release eachweek, and obviously with
commitments and familycommitments, that could change.
But yeah,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_ (01:03:18):
Yeah.
squadcaster-i07e_1_09-10-2 (01:03:19):
guys know.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09- (01:03:20):
So we're gonna try and record every
Tuesday, except for when I'mworking night shift on a
Tuesday.
'cause obviously Zach will be atwork when I'm at home.
So we're gonna move that toWednesdays, but we're hoping
that we can have a consistentThursday release for every
episode.
we're thinking about doing an alike bonus podcast for when big
(01:03:40):
things come up that we feelneeds a lot of discussion.
Say a state of origin game, orsomething like that, so that
we're not wasting time todiscuss other things and boring
people and things.
I know this week was very NRLbased, but, that's the exciting
thing that's happening at themoment.
And, you know, we, we know afair bit about NRL, we know a
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fair bit about other stuff, butyeah, we'll just see how we go.
And this is a big learning curvefor us and we are happy to jump
in and give it a go.
And we just love.
Everyone's support with it.
Really.
Like I've had fun doing this.
I know that, you know, this isour second attempt at our first
episode, but I think we learnedfrom yesterday's episode anyway,
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and I think it's a lot more freeflowing and you know, we cut the
time down and we gotta discuss alittle bit more so we could cut
some of that stuff out.
Yeah.
Anyway, till next week,
Speaker (01:04:35):
thank you for joining Zach and I on this week's
episode of the IncoherentPodcast.
We will be back next week withanother episode talking about
the week of sport and gaming.
You can follow us at theIncoherent Podcast on Facebook
and Instagram.
You can also get in touch withus via our email, the Incoherent
podcast at outlook com.
Feel free to message us if youhave anything for us to discuss
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in future episodes Till nextweek, it's from us.
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