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The episode features a lively conversation on the potential asteroid threat posed by YR4, which has recently seen an increase in predicted impact probability. Our hosts share personal experiences regarding self-care habits, revealing the importance of breaking stereotypes around grooming and wellness for men. 

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- Debating the merits of chicken skin chips and other quirky snacks 
- Reflecting on the emergence of live streaming and gaming communities 
- Exploring the impacts of media sensationalism on public perception of asteroids 
- Sharing insights into the current fashion landscape and its trends 

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Josh (00:01):
Welcome to the show.
Hey, Episode 71, InfiniteWeekend Podcast.
Oh thank you, got a big crowdtonight, oh yeah.
A lot of drunk folks.

Zach (00:15):
B-O-B.
We don't serve.

Josh (00:16):
Yeah, no, but no, we're back.
First time listening.
Welcome.
Episode 70, I think, did reallywell last week.
I enjoyed being back.
I went back and did listen toit.
So there's a few things that Iwas like we haven't done this in
a while.
The audio sounded incredible,but I could tell myself.
I was like we'll get back inthe swing of things.

Zach (00:34):
I didn't notice too much.

Josh (00:35):
No, what was funny is I told somebody.
I was like, yeah, it's ourfirst time back in a while, so
we tried not to do too raunchy.
And then the first 10 minutes Ithink we talked about shitting,
I think I said, and it was amistake.

Zach (00:49):
I didn't even mean to say it.
I had two thoughts in my headat the same time and it came out
as ball queef.
That's what it was Not shittingBall queef.

Josh (00:58):
I was like okay, we're back like 100%, Pretty much.
I haven't heard from anyone yet.
I know it's been downloaded alittle bit, but I have not heard
from my usual people how theyenjoyed it.

Zach (01:09):
Okay.
Did you hear good things?
Bad things?
No, good things Okay good yeah.
Some critique stuff.
Well, not critique, but justlike funny little ha-ha moments.

Josh (01:19):
Okay good, just wanted to tell you about.
I listened to well, youremember I used to listen to all
of them.
I don't do that anymore, but Ilistened to probably half of
this one and it was good.
Audio sounded crystal clear.
It was awesome.
Yeah, I like these new mics.
Oh yeah, all the newequipment's great and the chairs
are great.
The video I went back andwatched the video.

Zach (01:41):
I didn't realize it was crooked.
It was a little crooked.
I watched it and I was likefuck, it was a shitty little
stand we got.
Well, we weren't even going todo video.

Josh (01:47):
No.
I just I used different clips.

Zach (01:49):
We were just kind of like fuck it, just throw it up, and
who cares?

Josh (01:52):
But then I tied the streaming, so if anybody games
we're on, I'm on Twitch, so isZach Zach's on Twitch as well.
That, and we streamed like twohours.

Zach (02:03):
Yeah, and that's we're going to have to figure out.
I was thinking about this.
I'm still learning that wholelandscape Well, whenever you
posted on the on the theInstagram Infinite Weekend
Instagram, and then you taggedourselves like our personal
accounts that were streaming,but on streaming were different.
So I was like I was trying tofigure out how to tie all that
in together.

Josh (02:23):
It's funny you say that I was trying to figure out.

Zach (02:26):
So I can't, because you're ShortFuse on gaming and I'm Mr
Creepy Hands.

Josh (02:30):
Well, I changed.
Instead of ShortFuse Gaming, Ichanged it all back to Infinite
Weekend.
Yeah, but your handle.
I can't change my handle onTwitch for two months.

Zach (02:40):
I mean you should keep it ShortFuse.
Well, I'm going to.

Josh (02:42):
I can change mine.
My name can say the same, but Ican change the actual Twitch
page.

Zach (02:46):
Okay, we can.
Okay, yeah, I can't change ityet.

Josh (02:49):
I didn't going into this.
I didn't know we were going tocombine them.
I was going to do somethinglike obviously, like segue into
it on there because we gametogether.
Yeah.
But I've done everything onTwitch so you can find us on all
there.
Yeah, yeah so, and I've changedour Instagram around.
Instagram looks better.

Zach (03:08):
It's almost like I was thinking like we have these, we
have our game gamer tags andthen the, the streaming channel,
and then we've got this podcastand, as we were, just as
ourselves, yeah.
Right, so it's, it's.
It's almost like we're pornstars and we have porn names and
then we have regular names,that's correct.

Josh (03:24):
Yeah, pete Jones.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was well, I'm doing allthat and somebody at work what
was it?
What are you doing?
I said, just finding somethingelse to do to keep up with.
Yeah, I said so.
It's.
Streaming is dope.
I really.
It's just like doing this, butI'm playing one of my favorite
video games.
It's cool.

Zach (03:44):
Yeah, pretty much.

Josh (03:45):
And that's what Amber and Justin Farrell's.

Zach (03:49):
I saw Justin do it.

Josh (03:50):
Justin streams as well.
I think he does a lot of oldschool games.
He does a lot of Metal GearSolid and, I think, some other
games.
But yeah, he's got a prettynice little following.

Zach (03:58):
So let me tell you I could probably look it up for the
audience so you can see ityourself.
Remember, I was telling you,I'll just tell this for the
audience.
But after we jumped offstreaming that day I kind of
poked around to see I hadn'tbeen on Twitch in a few years.
Last time I was really on therewas when I played Destiny 2 of

(04:19):
Hardcore back in the day and wewould stream when we were doing
a raid or something like world.
We're trying to.
We never got worlds first,we're never good enough, but day
one raids would come out and wewould do them and uh, as a, as
a group, and we would stream forthe other people in the um clan
to like check it out.
That's the really only timeI've streamed since I was a

(04:40):
couple years ago it was uh, it'scool, it's fun.
So I was just kind of jumping onthere to be like you know,
what's it?
What's that?
What's changed?
What's it like now?
Well, I remember there was afew years ago there was a big
thing about with twitch where itwas getting invaded by uh
thoughts.
Essentially, you know, halfnaked women, I love half naked
women, but, like time and placeright sure uh, like you're

(05:01):
invading this kind of likegaming sanctuary just to be a
hoe.
You know, save that forinstagram or whatever, but you
know it's fine, it was wellreceived it.
Yes, right, I mean they didn'tgo anywhere.
In fact, now there's a wholesection for them to, to kind of
like I'd be isolated away fromthe rest of the game.

(05:21):
They're kind of pioneers kindof, I guess, but it's just, you
know it's.
They're like locusts, they justuh whatever they just invade
and then they stick around, Iguess well, it's because they're
demographic, they're aninvasions, invasive species yeah
I guess we'll watch hot womendo anything right, so um
whatever so they're invadedtwitch.
And so I was like, and so I wasgoing down that rabbit hole, of

(05:42):
course I checked, I checked outa few.
I was like she's hot, she's hot, she's, you know.

Josh (05:45):
Did you use bookmarked?
Yeah, bookmarked, I was likesave follow subscribe.

Zach (05:49):
Right, nice, send a little tip or whatever.
I didn't do all that, butanyway, send a tip.
Yeah, it's gotten even, butit's a lot more prevalent now.
And I came across a string andit's actually like a group of
like eight people, a string ofvideos and tons of content on

(06:13):
Twitch of this people doing VR,but their characters most of
them are men, men playing VR,but their characters are anime
women with big titties.
Their characters, most of them,are men, men playing VR, but
their characters are anime womenwith big titties.

Josh (06:30):
Or a fox.

Zach (06:30):
Half naked or fox whatever , with big titties, like it's
really weird.
And they're like dancing around, they're doing whatever the
fuck in this world.
They're, you know, having alittle pool party, whatever the
fuck, and it's just some dudenamed jose his voice.
Well, the whole thing was well.
We sent those videos and theyhave when I was when I was the

(06:51):
one that was live at the timehad like two 2500 people
watching this.
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Josh (06:57):
I've never had more than like 12, I think, everybody.
We had four the other night andtwo of them were yeah right.
I think everybody is justlooking for somewhere to like
belong.
I guess it's just wild to me.
Yeah, which is I mean?
Hey, whatever makes you happy,like I don't know?

Zach (07:11):
No, I said there's a peg, for you know every hole.
It's just the pegs and holesare really fucking weird these
days 2,500 people yeah.

Josh (07:27):
Watching a dude dance around as a big titty damn anime
chick.
Yeah, in a virtual world,that's where we're going.
We saw those videos that wesent where it was.
Those dude was like trollingthe vr rooms.

Zach (07:31):
Yes, yes, the furry, furry vr is a thing the guy's like if
you don't stop coloring people,you have to leave.
He's putting colors on thosecharacters you know I was
thinking one of my favoritemovies recent favorite movie is
is Ready Player One.
And you watch that movie andyou're like, oh, this is awesome
, I would do all the same things.
It's very nostalgic.
It hits a lot of callbacks to80s movies and even Gundam anime

(07:56):
.

Josh (07:56):
You're playing your gaming character.

Zach (07:58):
It had Mechagodzilla in it Like it's just a bunch of stuff
, right.

Josh (08:06):
In reality, it's going to be what I saw on twitch.
It's gonna yeah, there's gonnabe a sector.
It's gonna be disgusting,disgusting.
Yeah, it's gonna be the hapticfeedback suits 100, the whole
thing.

Zach (08:12):
It'd just be a bunch of sweaty horned basement dwellers
in those fucking haptic feedbacksuits, you know, fucking
rubbing all on each other asfoxes and fairies.
Yeah, is what it's going to be.
Yeah, that's what it's going tobe.

Josh (08:28):
For sure, I mean, there'll be a place for it.

Zach (08:29):
Sure, I mean someone.
Yeah, someone will.
There'll be a market for thesanitize, whatever but I'm
telling you, even the peoplethat would probably, you know,
enjoy like the sanit, you knowwhatever just hang out.

Josh (08:42):
Would you go check it out?

Zach (08:43):
Yeah.

Josh (08:44):
Yeah, it'd be, it'd be hard for our curiosity.
I could be hard for our gamingparty not to go check it out.

Zach (08:49):
A hundred percent.
Like you got to check it out,right Cause I'd be.
First of all, my curiositywould get the best of me, yeah,
and then two.
Once I got in there, I justwant to troll.

Josh (09:01):
What do you?
Well then, that bears thequestion Just like that video.
What are you going to be intonext?
What are you getting there?
And it's really awesome.
That's what I'm saying.
You won't be able to go to thezoo anymore.
You'll see animals that you gotall weird Right.

Zach (09:14):
See what you're saying, what you're trying to tell me,
like I'm going to get infectedinto the furry culture Dude.

Josh (09:21):
Is that what you're saying , man?
There's a clip that camethrough on my algorithm of a
dude that was, I guess, a furry,not like in a sexual sense, but
he was standing there and Iguess he explains how it all
works and what to expect on yourfirst fur con, and I couldn't
help it.
But I stayed for a secondbecause I was curious, like let
me just see what it takes to getto one of these fur cons.

(09:41):
Yeah, I mean mean he went intoa full thing like how to package
your suit like and they'reexpensive ass suits like these
aren't like this is like a fullreal deal mascot.
He was like you have to makesure you brush it.
And then I realized I'd beenthere too long, I was learning
too much.

Zach (09:54):
You've learned too much.
Right, there's some thumbs.
Did your, does your algorithmever?

Josh (09:58):
fuck you over like that.
You just stumble on somethingthat you never even had a
thought of yeah, and, and youstayed.

Zach (10:04):
Yeah, the dudes as anime chicks.

Josh (10:07):
Well, I meant when you're doom scrolling.
Is that on your?
When you doom scroll too?
The same thing.
Well, I mean, I guess I wasdoom scrolling Twitch, but yeah,
oh, okay, yes, okay, I had oneof the day of some junior in
high school, some kid that Ithink he's gay but he comes off.
This sounds like it, but helike does makeup.
Like uh, james charles, yeah,but not like extreme, but the

(10:27):
dude's just like like the firstvideo I ever saw those make me
uncomfortable well, I stuck.
I couldn't help it, I stuckaround.
It just doesn't look rightbecause he's just some, you know
, just I think he's like ajunior high school kid.
He was just like just get readywith me for junior tryouts for
football.
And I was like I better stickaround for just a second and I'm
like this can't be real.
And the dude and y'alllistening, like I'm sure you've

(10:51):
seen the kid and he's putting onmakeup, like I looked at my
wife, I was like is he puttingthat on right?
And she's like he's doing thatright, probably better than I do
.
I said okay, so he's putting onmakeup to go to football
tryouts, yeah, yeah.
And of course, as soon as I gotthere, I saw the comments for
like 2500 and I was likestraight to the comments to
watch people.

Zach (11:08):
Just that's a whole thing.
Now that's a whole makeup orcomments dude dudes doing makeup
like tutorials and like full-onlike makeup.
Whatever james charles startedthat whole thing yes, big.

Josh (11:22):
that's the guy that pretended when his shirt came
down he had breast, somethinglike that.
Yeah, there was a video thatshowed that.
There's a.

Zach (11:28):
He's a real pretty man.
He hangs out with Jason Derulo.

Josh (11:31):
Isn't he like a real pretty guy?

Zach (11:33):
He looks like a little twink to me.

Josh (11:34):
But isn't he the guy that became like the first cover girl
Like?

Zach (11:40):
And it started this whole like thing with.
I mean, it used to be, I don'tknow, only like maybe 10 years
ago.
It wasn't.
There was probably, you know,some guys here and there that
would do it, but it never was asbig as it is now.
The only guys that would wearmakeup to that degree was like
drag queens if they wereactually in drag.

Josh (12:01):
That's not good makeup.

Zach (12:01):
Right, even gay dudes wouldn't wear that much makeup.
That's true.
Now it's like a whole fuckingthing.

Josh (12:07):
It's just gotten out of hand and the fingernail polish.
Have you seen a lot more dudeswith their fingernails painted?

Zach (12:11):
Well, fucking Burt Crusher's got his damn toenails
painted black.

Josh (12:15):
I cannot take him in small doses.
That's all I got out of thatday, Kyle and I and our waiter.
He looked like a washed up 80shair metal band guy, but he had
his fingernails painted black.

Zach (12:28):
Well, it's actually a thing in the NFL now.

Josh (12:30):
Is it?

Zach (12:31):
Caleb Williams paints his fingernails and it's now caught
on to other.
Can't do it.
There's a wide receiver atAlabama.
He paints his nails now.
I can't do it so like um Idon't know these trends.

Josh (12:51):
Harper would eat me alive oh yeah, she would, she'd what
the fuck are you doing 100?

Zach (12:56):
but something about the a dude just like fully, like
dolled up or whatever.
It's just well, it'soff-putting.
So let me ask you or not, Idon't care, it's just I'm glad
we got on this journey because Ihave some things to add.

Josh (13:08):
Um, I recently went to the nail salon.
Callie had to get her um nailsdone and I was sitting there
just hanging out.
Well, I noticed there was amassive influx and dudes not gay
looking dudes, just regulardudes coming out with their
girlfriend stuff and all gettinglike petties.
And man I was.
This was like six dudes andsome of them were like

(13:29):
quote-unquote, like gangster,looking like kind of thug.
But, like I told guys, it'sreally hard to look tough that's
what I'm saying.

Zach (13:34):
Your feet dipped in the water, it's, it's a thing, but
they're and they're like.

Josh (13:37):
They walked in and like, yeah, me too I'm like.
I looked around loud and I waslike am I the only one not
getting my what's happening here?

Zach (13:44):
It's like metrosexual has gone mainstream.

Josh (13:46):
Well, I'm actually probably going to get my hand,
my finger done when I go back.

Zach (13:50):
Well, I mean, like I don't Just clean them up, man you
know if, if you're, if you goabout it as like, as like, Just
be a dude, it's like getting ahaircut, like treatment or
whatever.

Josh (13:59):
It's.

Zach (13:59):
Like these shit's kind of busted.
Let me clean them up.
That's right, but if you like,I don't know, starting getting
into, like the fancy.
I don't know, I don't knowanything about nails?

Josh (14:09):
Oh, I've had mine done.
I had a pedicure done once withKyle when we first got together
and it is incredible.

Zach (14:17):
If you've never had your feet done, the whole thing is
cool.
I think where I would draw theline is calling it a pedicure,
it a petty, oh, okay.

Josh (14:22):
Well, that's for our listeners.
It's called a pedicure.

Zach (14:23):
We have a 28% Say a pedicure.
It's a little bit moreprocedural.

Josh (14:26):
No, it's a mani and pedi.
More you know medical, it's alittle more scientific.
No, it's a mani and pedi.
When you say mani and pedi, itsounds like you're getting
manhandled by two dudes.

Zach (14:37):
It means I'm a regular yeah Petty.

Josh (14:40):
Either way for our 28% female listeners, manny and
Petty.
Yeah, no, I've had my feet done, but I have my hands done as
well.
Like cleaned up, I didn't getthem painted but, got them
cleaned up and stuff Did it.
I mean, like you said, I likegoing to the barbershop, I like
my face serums and ointments andall that shit.
I don't mind I don't goregularly.

(15:03):
But if I was there and they'relike you want yours done too,
I'm like fuck, I'm already here.
I got to sit here anyways.
Yeah, so what's?
20 bucks?

Zach (15:09):
I mean it's not that big of a deal.
Yeah, I suppose you should tryit.

Josh (15:19):
We'll go together card I don't know.

Zach (15:21):
I feel like that's like subversively gay.
You can borrow my wife, okaygarrett's done that.

Josh (15:27):
Garrett's barred my wife when I got my first sports car,
my mustang sure I'll do that Ibrought it to ever.
Told you a story about whathappened yeah yeah, test drove
and he said I said, you want todrive it?
He said yeah.
He said do you mind getting inthe back and let your, like
kylie, sit up front?
I said, yeah, I guess you canborrow my wife and the car.
He's like it just looks better.
I was like, yeah, man, you'renot wrong, go ahead.
So he did, yeah, it was awesome.

(15:48):
Yeah, there's a lot of dudes inthere.
I guess that's a thing.
But I don't.
I don't know what's going on.
That's a.
I can't do the makeup thing.
Well, I wouldn't.

Zach (15:56):
I wouldn't uh be opposed to you know, a little self-care,
doing like some spa treatmentor whatever I mean, I've mean.
I've gotten a massage.
Of course I'm not gay aboutgetting a massage or getting I
don't want to say facial butsome skin treatment.
It's awesome.

Josh (16:11):
Or whatever.
That's fine, it's a great time.

Zach (16:14):
I don't know, Manny Petty especially if you say that is
maybe a bridge too far for me.

Josh (16:20):
No, I don't know.
You just got to own it.
Like I said, I have to treat itlike it's.

Zach (16:24):
Like you know I've got a fucked up toenail or something.
I got to go get it fixed.

Josh (16:30):
Dude if I called you and said I just had a man.
He paid down and the girl issuper fucking hot.
You'd be like where is it?
That's also true.

Zach (16:39):
If there was, like you know, they're doing a makeup
tutorial for dudes.
The girl's doing it is reallyhot I'd be like sign me up.

Josh (16:46):
Yeah, I mean, we've said it before Hot people make
everything better.
That's true, you're not wrong,I know.

Zach (16:51):
You're not wrong.

Josh (16:51):
There is a coffee place here in town that has the
barista thing, However speakingof, I'm going to show you.

Zach (16:58):
I'm going to show you a picture.

Josh (16:59):
Okay.

Zach (17:00):
Talking about extremely attractive women and coffee.
As soon as you say coffee shop,there is a coffee shop that is
kind of near where I work.
It's actually a little out ofthe way, if I was to be quite
honest, on my way into work, butsometimes I have to drive out

(17:21):
that way and there's a girl atthis coffee shop and Can I see
the picture You're fuckingleaving me on here?
Whenever she, you know, I pullup to order coffee and she pops
out of that drive-thru windowand, like my brain shut off.

Josh (17:38):
That's good, because she was so attractive.
Did you get her number?
You should ask her out no.
Tell her you're a manager.

Zach (17:45):
Oh yeah remember you should ask her out.
No, tell her you're a manager.
Oh yeah, that'll do it for her.

Josh (17:48):
No, she's, she's definitely too young for me, but
oh man, yeah, let me find thisgirl, okay, well, you already
found her yeah, duh, dude, I'mproud I've fucking, I've already
checked out that damn linkedin.

Zach (17:57):
You know I'm saying I'm I've always, always down there.

Josh (18:00):
I like it.
You want to see.
If you want to hire, that's it.
That's just.
Uh, check out a few of those.

Zach (18:04):
I'm going to see what you got.

Josh (18:07):
Where does she work Coffee shop?

Zach (18:09):
Okay, um, let's see here.
Try not to give out too manydetails, I'm not.

Josh (18:16):
She's very young.
Yeah, I mean she's legal.
Let's, let's for the audience.

Zach (18:20):
There's a recent birthday picture.
She's like 21.

Josh (18:23):
She is 21.
You're right, who's thatfucking tool?
Her?

Zach (18:28):
boyfriend.
I don't care about him.
He's probably gay.

Josh (18:33):
Probably.
So I've yes, yeah, I guess ifshe popped her head out the
window, she definitely it'scloser to her natural area.

Zach (18:39):
So I think she commutes in , but she's you, but she doesn't
fit.
You know what I'm?

Josh (18:46):
saying she's the hot girl making sandwiches.
100% yes.

Zach (18:52):
And so, anyway, I've been obsessed with this coffee for a
while now.
And now I've kind of toldcoworkers and I was just like
y'all, I've got to go to thiscoffee place.
And now it's like a thing.
Now we're like you want somecoffee, yeah, I want some coffee
, let's go get some coffee.
And it's like 11 o'clock.
It's like 3 o'clock, whatever,and we go there just to get in.

(19:15):
When she's not there, she's ouroff day.
We're like, ah fuck, I don'teven want coffee ask you like,
if you pull in, she's out there.

Josh (19:25):
Like I changed my mind, I brought some from home.

Zach (19:26):
Yeah, pretty much here's your favorite, like no, yeah, so
see I will go out of my way toa coffee shop when I don't
really need or want coffee justto get a glimpse of this chick.
That's kind of, I mean, soundsdesperate.
She sounds terrible, but she isthat attractive, she's good
looking, um that you know we'lldo weird things as dudes.

Josh (19:44):
I used to flirt with the girls at Panera on Wilma years
ago to get free coffee.
Yeah.
One of them had a bit of awandering eye, but I think she
got it fixed, and the other onewas really cool too.
Where was it wandering?
Uh, a different direction thanforward.
Um, but yeah, that was thosetwo girls were really nice.
But yeah, those two girls werereally nice.

(20:04):
I used to get free coffee.

Zach (20:06):
That was fun, yeah Well, I mean, I go to Dutch Bros so
much they know my order I'vepulled up before and they're
just like I got you and theyscan my app and then move on.
I don't even ask me, I don'ttell them the order, they just
know what I get, because I getthe same damn thing every time.
It's super basic and I'm goingto sound basic when I say it,

(20:26):
but it's medium.
I don't like too much coffee inthe morning.
It's a medium hot Americanowith 2%, that's it.

Josh (20:36):
Super basic.
I went there one time to getcoffee and it tasted like ass,
but Kylie likes it a lot.

Zach (20:41):
I may have ordered it, I just got a regular.

Josh (20:43):
I just got a regular.
I just want a hot coffee.
It's a drip coffee.

Zach (20:45):
Oh, so they don't have drip coffee.

Josh (20:46):
Yeah, that's why it tastes like shit.

Zach (20:47):
The drip coffee is an Americana.
Yeah, which is just espressoand hot water.

Josh (20:53):
I would just make it at home.

Zach (20:55):
And you can't, and I think maybe it's because of I gotcha
um and it might be a tad toostrong if it's a small, so
medium is just perfect.
Okay, um, see this, this is alarge right here.
You have found the balance.
I found the balance.
Okay, this is, you know, uh,I've uh many tries before I got

(21:16):
to where I've.
This is my kind of consistentorder, um, and sometimes I'll
shake it up and, you know, getlike a cold brew.
Whatever they actually have,the for me, I think their cold
brew tastes the best.
Sometimes, places that havecold brew, it's just too sour, I
don't know how to describe it.
It's too blonde, like a blonderoast or something.
It just doesn't sound right.

(21:36):
It doesn't taste right.
It's got like an acidity to it.
That's just not good.

Josh (21:40):
I don't do light roast anymore.
No, I'm a medium or dark.

Zach (21:42):
I like it more earthy, dirty, dirt kind of taste.

Josh (21:45):
I prefer a dark roast myself.

Zach (21:47):
So that's the reason why Dutch Bros does have good cold
brew, because it does still havean earthy coffee taste.
It doesn't have that acidickind of sweet taste that some
cold brews taste like.

Josh (22:00):
It tastes like they put a bunch of lemon in it or
something You're talking about,when it has a floral.
They almost do like the.

Zach (22:05):
I don't know why I'm the same way.

Josh (22:06):
I don't like the.
I like a hazelnut.
There's like an almond to it.

Zach (22:09):
I want something a little more gritty, a bit nutty.

Josh (22:12):
A little bit nutty.
Yeah, I prefer that myself.
I don't like the floralarrangement.

Zach (22:20):
Okay, so we're on the same page.
So Dutch Bros is like.
I've tried cold brew all overEverywhere.

Josh (22:26):
I go.

Zach (22:26):
I usually try to do their cold brew, because it's usually
quick, it's easy, it's.
You know you can still putbullshit in it or whatever.

Josh (22:34):
but you know it's a good cold drink.
Shit from the yard.

Zach (22:37):
Instead of having, like an iced latte which is mostly milk
Correct, you know what I mean?
I do a cold brew and just alittle splash of cream or milk
or whatever.
I'm trying to get off the creamthing because I didn't realize
for the longest time.

Josh (22:49):
I think we talked about this before we did last episode,
last episode.
I didn't realize it was likehalf fucking seed oil, cotton
oil or whatever the fuck, andI'm like what the hell?

Zach (22:59):
It's not good at all.
I had no idea.
I thought, know what I thought,but um did you try the chobani
creamer yet?
I'll have to bring you I toldyou, I just do two percent do
fair.

Josh (23:05):
Well, just for me, try it.
Okay, I'll bring you something.
You have to bring me somebecause I'm not gonna buy it I
know you won't, but I'll bringit.
You can try it.
It's good.

Zach (23:11):
I think you really like it well, I mean, you know, I don't
do sweet stuff, so well, it'snot.

Josh (23:15):
This is just cream.
It'll taste like just I wasjust cream half and half.
But it's't have all thebullshit, I'll bring you some.

Zach (23:22):
Okay, you have to bring me some.

Josh (23:23):
I'll bring you a little vial of it.
You can try it.
If you hate it, throw it out.
Whatever you want to do, Okay.

Zach (23:26):
All right, Cause I yeah, I've been trying to cut out the
bullshit and I'm doing prettygood so far, I haven't really
weighed myself cause I don'tcare.
I don't give a flying fuck ifI'm like two 30 or one 70, I

(23:47):
don't care.

Josh (23:48):
You know if you were one 70, I'll know when.
I'm one 70 on the way I feel andmove and everything.
And look and look.
I mean that'll yeah.

Zach (24:00):
I hear you because you know I'm creeping 40.
I got two more years.
I'm 38 years old and now youreally do.
There is a different mindsetnow into getting healthy and
working out.
It's not about like lookinggood naked anymore, which is
cool, that's fine, or whatever.
It's about fucking feeling good.

Josh (24:21):
Yeah, and you are what you eat.
You got to figure out.
I mean, look good, naked willcome.
I mean, obviously we all wantto look good naked when we grow
up.

Zach (24:27):
Yeah, that's a secondary thing, that's correct.
No one's looking at me nakedanyway.

Josh (24:30):
But feeling good, being able to do the things you want
to do without feeling like shit.
That's it.
Like Jacob said, it best mybrother's gotten on another
workout path, him and hisgirlfriend but he was like I got
well.
You think he said it in chat.
He was like I got tired of justbeing weak at everything.

Zach (24:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh (24:48):
And I called him and he was like yeah, dude.
So I just I got winded doingeverything, like I get just
tired of it.
I was like yeah, dude.
So that all jacked up like yeah, it's cool, but like it's fine.

Zach (25:06):
You also need to remember like be realistic I'm not just
too much you I'm talking abouteverybody in general in the gym
culture just have realisticgoals yeah, I mean, I look, I
already know what it takes tolook like that and be all cut up
.

Josh (25:19):
I don't have time for that I don't have.

Zach (25:20):
I don't have them, I don't have the drive for that that's
a whole like lifestyle that Ijust don't care to do.

Josh (25:27):
I'm not stage ready, I'm not going to walk on a stage, I
just want to feel good.
And then like obviously I don'twant to let myself go to shit
because I don't want to be thatway, but like I just do it now
because it's just a part of so,as Ian, it's just part of your.

Zach (25:42):
You've always been that way.

Josh (25:43):
So as as yeah, and it was, it's just part of your.

Zach (25:44):
You've always been that way.
It's like, you know.
For you it's like brushing yourteeth.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
For me it's I'm not like that.
So I've had I'm having to learnto.
I've had, I've had, you know,ups and downs and spurts here
where I've done really well andthen I fall off the wagon.
Yeah, just like.

(26:05):
But the motivation, like I said, is just not to get all cut up
and look good naked.
It's to feel better, have moreenergy.
But also the other thing that'skind of in the back of my mind,
like I said, in relation to myage, I'm almost, you know, a
couple years I'll be 40, andthings start to snowball and
eventually I'm going to get to acertain age where it's a lot
harder to stay in shape andwhatever yes, and so I need to
get to a certain age where it'sa lot harder to stay in shape

(26:26):
and whatever yes, and so I needto get a good foundation because
I do not want to be 65 and haveall these fucking ailments.

Josh (26:30):
Yeah, that's funny, it's really.

Zach (26:31):
You know what I mean.
It's funny.
You say, dad, I can't movearound we went hiking this
morning.

Josh (26:35):
Excuse me, we went rucking this morning on the greenway
because the marina was closed.
But he was talking about thatstill flooded he yeah, it's
closed.
I think it's just mud, I thinkit's just nasty.
Like, don't come down here.
The Greenway is fine.
Obviously it's not the sameright next to the river, but we
were talking about because mydad's almost 60, almost he's

(27:01):
going to kill me for saying that, but he is, but he's in.
No, she's like nothing and he'sno.

Zach (27:07):
No, I don't want to take a bunch of fucking pills.

Josh (27:09):
He's like I do all natural vitamins and he watches what he
eats and exercises.
He's not on any medication, noso but in his age bracket
nowadays it's you know it's.
She was like well, I hopemine's like that when I get to
that age.
Yeah, I don't like medicineeither myself.
I don't like going to thedoctor.
I mean, I have my own stuff Ideal with like I have my own.
Especially this time of year.

(27:30):
Seasonal depression is real,like I.
I have I have it bad, like itleads to false symptoms, and I
have all it's all fucked up.

Zach (27:37):
I'm not gonna yeah, you are a bit of a hypochondriac I
am a hypochondriac and I am ahypochondriac and I have what
was the last year?
You had that whole bout where,like you were like so that
almost fired back up Did it.

Josh (27:48):
It happens every year.
This time of year the last,like five years, it's always
happened.

Zach (27:53):
Really yeah.
So is it specifically just tiedto weather, like is it being
cold and you can't get out?

Josh (28:05):
Well, I'm already a pretty high.
Well, you've done me a longtime.
I'm already like a pretty I Ias I've gotten older now too.
So, like I spend probably like85 of my thoughts are about
things that I can't fix orchange and it's healthy things
that are it's not at all, thatare absolutely like it's really
crazy.
Like that's when I went, that'swhen I spent a lot of money on
all those tests, like I thoughtI was dying, yeah, and finally
that one doctor told me he waswas like you've got to find some

(28:25):
fucking balance, dude.
I'm not giving you a pill, youneed to chill the fuck out.
That's what he said.
So I did and everything wasfine.
But it's always because all ofmy hobbies, too, are all high
adrenaline outside.
Well, most people probablydon't find peace and calm in
doing high adrenaline stuff.

Zach (28:42):
Okay.

Josh (28:43):
Like I'm very calm riding extremely fast to the woods on a
motorcycle, like that's acalming sensation for me.

Zach (28:50):
That's hilarious considering what your job is.

Josh (28:52):
Correct.
I know Crunk tells me that allthe time, so yeah, it's always
this time of year.
That's what happens.
I'm a lot more closeted as faras my activities, and the
weather sucks.
Yeah.
And then, by the way I sound, mysinuses are terrible, like all
that stuff compounds, and thenyou just worry about shit.
That is so dumb, it's so dumb.

Zach (29:13):
Like I have this.

Josh (29:13):
I have an innate fear that , like my family was going to
watch me wither away, like I'mgoing to just shrivel up and die
, like I'm going to get somesort of crumble, like before 50,
like you're gonna like lose theability to walk or something
like that.
Be bed, no just like shrivel uplike some chair horrible
ailment and just yeah, seriousdude, it's fucked up, it's crazy
.
Yeah, it's bad, dude you are.

(29:34):
You are a high energy dude Ifigured you last, last year,
when I thought something wasgoing down, like I bought a
blood pressure cuff, like I haveno prerequisites for high blood
pressure?

Zach (29:44):
I do, actually, I think when I got a physical, like five
years ago, my doctor told me orthe nurse or I don't know who
it was told me my cholesterolwas a little elevated.

Josh (29:55):
Well, like I didn't have it, I've never done so I've
never done a full blood panel.
I thought about getting one.
I was like 35.
Did you get one?
Did you have a full blood paneldone?
Did you get one?
Did you have a full blood?

Zach (30:02):
panel done.
Actually, I want to do that nowthat I'm making changes.

Josh (30:06):
I thought about getting one.
I want to do it now.

Zach (30:08):
So I have a before and an after.

Josh (30:09):
Well, I was going to, but my problem is if something is
not right or if something islower.
I'll obsess over it and I'llend up in a home.
So I can't do it.
That's what I did whenever Ihad that whole blood panel done,
when I had, when I had mykidney stuff done, because I

(30:30):
every couple years several years.

Zach (30:31):
I get a full with no symptoms.

Josh (30:31):
I just get a test done that banks, the whole thing, and
it's like, yeah, it's fuckingperfect.

Zach (30:33):
I was like, all right, yeah, dude, it sucks, it's so
fucked up see, that's there'stimes that I'll be honest, I
wish I had a little bit of that,because that would motivate me
to like.

Josh (30:43):
it's not I, it's not, it's not healthy.
I know it sounds terrible.

Zach (30:45):
I know it's terrible, I know it.
I hate that.
That sucks, I'm sorry.
Don't be sorry.
I wish I had just a little bitof it.
Maybe not the obsessive part,but you have to be kind of
obsessed in order to likemaintain that.

Josh (31:00):
Well, there's bats.
I'm here recently.
I've been figuring I'm tryingto.
I'm hoping that, because I turn35 soon.
Yeah.
And I'm hoping I don't haveanother case where I turn 30.
You remember that and I thoughtthat was the end.
I hope I don't.
I don't want to do it again,but I think yeah, but look at
your dad.
He's still.
It's not so much like that it's.

(31:21):
I don't know it's fucked up.
Yeah, like I just hope that Ifind some sort of peace, like I
need to find.
I don't like hope.
As you get older you getcomfortable and you just kind of
find like I don't want to sayfind happiness, because I'm not
an unhappy guy, like I havenothing bad in my life, like I
sound like I don't have trauma.
Let's just go ahead and get thatout of the fucking way.

(31:43):
I don't.
The trauma is of your ownmaking, it's me.
Yeah, I'm my worst enemy 100.
Yeah, it's funny you weretalking about like don't look
good naked.
I'm like dude, like I know yousay you want all those things,
but once you get to a certainlevel, everything fucks with you
.
If I have one oreo, it fuckingbothers me.
Like the other day I was eatingcarrots out of the bag.
I like carrots and myco-workers were like do you ever
have anything joyful in life toeat?

(32:06):
That looks fucking miserable.
And.
I was like no, this is itBecause I won't lose sleep at
night eating carrots.
See that's fucking dumb.

Zach (32:18):
There's the people that get in shape or have been in
shape their entire life, and theones that are like you know.
Go and be stage ready on theshelf.
There is an obsession.
There's some sort of obsessionthat that's there, that's and
you're you can call it.
Maybe you know it can beunhealthy for sure, but it's
also kept you in like greatshape at 35 and crazy to where

(32:41):
you go, get a blood work doneand they're like you're perfect
oh, that's what I, what I, yeah,they did.
Yeah.

Josh (32:45):
I didn't have the full panel done.
I thought about getting one youknow what.
I mean See what my testosterone.
we should do that.
We should get the full thingdone, Get a workup done.
I'm not going to share theresults, because if something's
wrong I'm going to look at itand I'm like, oh, that'd be nice
to be in that level of shape.

Zach (33:07):
But then I'm watching what they're doing and I'm like it's
their entire fucking life.

Josh (33:13):
It is, they don't do anything else.

Zach (33:17):
And that's fine for them because that's their passion.
Their passion is like it'salmost like that millionaire
that he spends, like Fuck him.

Josh (33:26):
That guy, that dude's crazy.
He makes me mad.
Yeah, I fucking, I don't like,that's what I'm saying.
So there's today.
There's, this is there's great.

Zach (33:32):
You know there's levels to it, but I don't know, be all
like cut up and like that.
There there's a obsession andthey have room for nothing else.
That guy looks like a vampire.
There's people that I've workedwith where they you know they
have to have.
They have to like eat fivetimes a day.

Josh (33:49):
I used to do all that.

Zach (33:50):
Constantly doing that kind of thing.
It interrupts their day.
They can't go to lunch withanybody because they've got a
set thing, and so it's just.
I don't know.
To me that's too much.

Josh (34:00):
I mean I'm ill-prepped and stuff too, but like, if I'm not
going to pass up because mostplaces too unless you're
competing, I get it Sure.
Unless you're competing, I getit Sure.
I mean because you're talkingabout you're competing and you
have to be better than theperson next to you.

Zach (34:14):
Or you're a professional athlete, or whatever.

Josh (34:16):
But if you're just like the everyday goer, like if
someone invites me to dinner,I'm still going to go.
If I go to lunch, I'll just getsomething that correlates with
what my standards are, for thatI'm not going to pass up lunch
with my friend because I have toeat.

Zach (34:27):
Yeah my friend because I have to eat.
Yeah, you know, a bag ofcarrots, a bag of carrot which
I'll bring with me.

Josh (34:30):
Let's put it in my pocket.
They're baby carrots.
I can carry them wherever I go.

Zach (34:34):
They're organic.
Yeah, um.
Well, I'm trying to findsomething in between that Not to
eat.
I don't think I get to yourlevel because you you've
cultivated a lifestyle.

Josh (34:45):
I have a house of ingrip.
My house sucks for food.
It's just a house ofingredients.

Zach (34:49):
There's no good shit in there.

Josh (34:51):
It sucks.
There's nights when I'm like Iwant something fucked up and
it's like, well, there's ahundred calorie popcorn, Ooh.
So, and then I found out likeand then I found out Oreos.
Do you know that Oreos servingis only two Oreos, did you know

(35:11):
you don't care.
And then it's like fuck two.

Zach (35:14):
Two yeah, you got to check the old.
When you're looking at thecalorie counts on the back,
you're like oh that's lowcalorie.
But then you got to look at theserving size and it's usually
bullshit.
Do the thin ones.
I don't like that much cream.

Josh (35:30):
I like the double stuff.
Not mega, mega's too much, butdouble.

Zach (35:35):
I'm here for it, I'm into the thin, I like the thin ones.

Josh (35:40):
We're covering a lot from the wage.

Zach (35:42):
You did a 100-calorie popcorn bag.
Last night I had popcorn aswell.

Josh (35:47):
Did you have the good shit yeah?

Zach (35:50):
It was like you know, 180 calorie bag or whatever,
unpopped or popped.

Josh (35:56):
That's how they got it Popped.
Was there really that muchpopped?
I guess I think you're justreading unpopped Popped should
be less calories.

Zach (36:03):
I think it's in a bag.
I mean, who doesn't?
What is unpopped calorie count?
I don't know what am I going todo, just pop them like peanuts.

Josh (36:10):
I think you have to separate the kernels.

Zach (36:13):
I don't understand why even put on the bag unpopped
calories.
I don't know who's eating themlike that.

Josh (36:20):
Fuck, I don't know.
You put them in the ground.
I don't know.
You want to make some corn inthe backyard, did you do?

Zach (36:25):
Orville Rimbacher, I think .

Josh (36:29):
Yeah, got the dude on the front of it.
Yeah, it's pretty good popcorn.

Zach (36:32):
So yeah, I got that and it's like extra butter, movie
theater butter or whatever.
Don't fuck around that shit'sgood dude, I was feeling a
little inspired.
What'd?
You burn there.
So what I did is I melted downhalf a stick of butter.

Josh (36:48):
Damn Real.
Butter, real butter, damn Realbutter, real butter.

Zach (36:51):
Okay, no, I'm going to do that margarine bullshit.
Half a stick of butter, alittle garlic, salt and some
Parmesan cheese.
Son of a bitch, I made me alittle garlic.
Parmesan sauce, smothered andcovered, and I smothered that
popcorn and that shit and it wasawesome, Damn.

Josh (37:08):
Yeah, I guess.
So Wow, that's impressive.

Zach (37:10):
So they're probably going to do that.
I would go with 180 calories tomaybe like 260.

Josh (37:14):
I would be bubbling, like that microwave goes off if I had
eaten that.
It was good.

Zach (37:18):
I enjoyed myself I can't eat like that and I ended up
watching.
What did I watch?
Oh, I watched.
I told you about it.
It was after I watched theGorge.
I was mentioning Anna TaylorJoy, the menu.
The menu and I watched the menulast night.
It's good.
It's still good.
I haven't watched it.
It's a crazy movie.

Josh (37:37):
News for R2 is out on Peacock.

Zach (37:39):
Okay, good.

Josh (37:39):
So watch it.

Zach (37:41):
I think I have.
I think I have.

Josh (37:43):
Brandon's.
Watch it, then we can talkabout it next episode.

Zach (37:51):
It's good, all right, I'd like to know your thoughts.
Yeah, uh, so I'm getting.
I'm uh getting to a point whereI was like I just don't want to
pay for all, like I'm okay withwaiting for it to be free I
rented it yeah, I mean somestuff I'll do.

Josh (37:59):
I rented it like at 11 30 at night.
I was bored yeah and I ran.
I was like I'm gonna stick itout yeah, and I rented it and
then, of course, two weeks later, it comes to streaming.
But I will say I think it wasworth the rent.
I don't think I wasdisappointed with the 20, 20
bucks or whatever um it depends.

Zach (38:13):
It's something that that's maybe.
If maybe I should do this fornos for a two, but uh like,
whenever uh captain americacomes to available to rent, I'll
probably just rent that, justto get it over with yeah, yep,
I'll watch it but then think butyou're right, it'll probably
like in you.
Yep, I'll watch it.
But you're right, it'llprobably like in six weeks it'll
be on Disney Plus for free,anyway.

Josh (38:33):
It will.
That's why I try not to.

Zach (38:35):
I couldn't just wait, but actually I do want to see it
because it does look like it'sone of the better ones, although
I've heard a bunch of badreviews about it, but I think
that may be people that are it'snot a very from what I've read
and put together myself just byclips, and I haven't watched the
whole thing, but, excuse me, itdoesn't seem like a big story.

Josh (38:58):
It seems like it.
It steps for bigger thingscoming.

Zach (39:01):
Maybe yeah.

Josh (39:02):
But to me it sounded more of like a filler film.
Not a bad film, but like just afiller movie.

Zach (39:08):
Not like a, it's a stepping stone to get to get the
ball running for the doom Right, you're probably right.
So the only the only two thingsthat I've heard that are
negatives about it is that ithad a bunch of reshoots, which
when, when a movie has a bunchof reshoots, extensive reshoots
that's usually not a creativedifferences maybe, or something.
There's.
There's some story change towhere something didn't test well

(39:31):
or whatever and they went backto reshoot it.
That's not a good sign.
And the other thing that Iheard was that this is a plot
element was obviously thecelestial that was going to be
birthed out of the earth wasstopped during Eternals, that's
correct, and Tiamat, and so he'slike kind of half out of the

(39:53):
earth.
Was stopped during Eternals,that's correct, and Tiamat, so
he's like kind of half out ofthe earth or whatever.
That's where the vibraniumcomes from.
I guess the I can't rememberher Cersei, I can't remember who
, whatever the eternal characterwas that could transmute
elements.
I guess she must have turnedhim into adamantium.
Quote unquote adamant.
I guess she must have turned himinto adamantium, quote-unquote
adamantium.
That must have been thesubstance that she transmuted

(40:14):
whatever his body was made ofinto adamantium, and that's what
I'm guessing without havingseen the movie.
But someone says that made acomment, says yeah, they don't
really address the overarchingproblem Like the whole movie's
about adamantium and who's goingto control and acquire and
maintain this adamantium supplythat they've all of a sudden

(40:34):
come across.
It's kind of like the same kindof plot device and plot element
as Black Panther had withVibranium.

Josh (40:42):
Correct.

Zach (40:43):
Same kind of thing, which.
So their critique was like yeah, we already saw that kind of
like play out with Black Panther.
So was like yeah, we alreadysaw that kind of like play out
with black Panther.
So like why are we doing thisagain?
The bigger issue is there afucking alien was being birthed
and about to destroy the earthor the earth.
And then his daddy showed upout of a fucking portal who's 10

(41:05):
times as big as the earth.
Yeah, that whole and everybodysaw it.
And then he says I'll be back tosee if earth, if humanity is
going to be.
You know we're going to judgehumanity, I'll come back and you
might get destroyed if hejudges you the wrong way.
That's the bigger issue.

Josh (41:19):
Yeah, cause that.
Well, we saw theaters togetherlike that.
That clip alone.
You're like holy shit, this isthe first time we've seen a big
problem.
That was God-level beingGod-level stakes.

Zach (41:29):
This isn't Galactus.

Josh (41:30):
This is.

Zach (41:31):
Yes, and.
I don't know that movie hassome.
That doesn't bode well for themovie if they're not going to
address that.
They fumble.
They fumbled a lot the last fewyears.

Josh (41:40):
They've been fumbling a lot, but we'll see.
We'll see.
I haven't seen it.
I haven't want to go see it intheaters, to be honest, I just I
wasn't intrigued enough to doso, so I did not.
I will tell you, if we're onthe talking about movies, you
probably won't have seen itbecause it's a thing.
It's geared more towardschildren, obviously, but the
wild robot.

(42:00):
I gave it a nine out of a nineout of ten.
It is fantastic.
I have to watch it.
If you have, even if you don'thave kids like you remember
wally back in the day likepixar's ball.
It was such a good movie thisone is it's got a little more
dark humor to it.
For adults.
It's kind of funny the kind ofthings that you'll be watching
and you're just like oh but itmakes sense to the story and

(42:22):
it's done in a way that, likeyou know, harper's eight um, and
we, we all loved it.
What I mean?
She loved it, it, it wasawesome.
It's a great movie.
That's another one that Iforgot to mention.
I had seen that one last week.
I should check that out.
It's good, dude, if you justwant a little feel good, kind of
a quick, nothing crazy.

Zach (42:37):
That's what I've heard Speaking of kids' movies.

Josh (42:42):
I guess teen movies or whatever, let's talk more about
teen movies Do you see thetrailer Train your Dragon live
action, not a fan.
Don't want it, not going to gosee it While I was watching it.

Zach (42:51):
it's a shot-for-shot remake.

Josh (42:53):
It's stupid.

Zach (42:54):
And I'm looking at it and I'm like why?

Josh (42:57):
Why is this being made?
I'm on the train completelyleading the charge.
It is a waste of money.

Zach (43:02):
Giant waste.

Josh (43:04):
Absolutely.
I don't care what I'll die onthe hill.
I don't need a live action it'sdreamworks.

Zach (43:14):
Right, it's not disney, it's dreamworks of course it's
dreamworks.
But it's the dreamworks youknow, pixar, level 3d animation
or whatever, that already kindof look.
I mean it's already.
It doesn't look cartoony, italready looks kind of real.
I mean they're obviously notyeah it's not.
It's not photorealistic, but Iguess what I'm saying is, if you
take the Little Mermaid andthen you live action it their

(43:36):
world's apart visually the waythey look, which they did.

Josh (43:40):
Yeah, they did.

Zach (43:42):
I didn't see that but you have Little Mermaid clearly
cartoon, and then you have thelive action remake.
It's way over here on the otherend of the spectrum visually,
and so you can see why theywould want to maybe do a
live-action remake of thatcartoon style, but something
that is already live-action andthe animation for how to Train

(44:02):
your Dragon is already too closetogether.
It's not that much different,it's not.

Josh (44:07):
It's almost like a.
So what's the point?
It's like a high school project.
It's not that much different.
It's not.

Zach (44:11):
It's almost like a.
So what's the point?
It's like a high school project.

Josh (44:12):
It's weird.

Zach (44:12):
That's what it looks like to me, and they're like well, we
got the same.

Josh (44:14):
We got Gerard Butler doing the voice.
Who did the?
I'm like I've already.
I've already have relationshipswith these characters from the
animated moon.
I don't need.
Yeah, looks exactly the fuckingsame.
That's what I'm saying.
Take away the people.
I'm watching how to Train.
I don't need.
I cannot believe a studio saidwe're going to do this.

(44:35):
The plan Disney had originallywas to take all of the Disney
princess movies and redo themlive action.
I've only seen one good oneCinderella was the best one.
I don't care what anybody says.

Zach (44:45):
I did see that one.

Josh (44:46):
That one was, if you're going to do one that fits the
bill.
Looks like that was my favoriteone, yeah, but like we've tried
to watch some of them, Beautyand the Beast wasn't bad.

Zach (44:58):
I didn't like Emma Watson just can't act.

Josh (45:01):
Yeah, she just, he did pretty good.
I forget his name.
He did a pretty good job.
But I could not get on boardwith her being Bill.
She's attractive, that's whatI'm saying, but she'll always be
Hermione for me.

Zach (45:12):
Always be Hermione and really she's not that good of an
actress.
She's not that great of anactress, I know.
Sorry, I just don't agree withyou on that, agreed.

Josh (45:25):
But as far as the movie itself, you take her out of it
it actually was fine.

Zach (45:29):
Yeah, that one.

Josh (45:30):
Pinocchio, we couldn't even finish.

Zach (45:32):
Harper's been turned off.
I haven't seen that one either.

Josh (45:34):
She said because the cartoon's better Dad.

Zach (45:36):
Right, I saw the Lion King was also.
That's another one that was.

Josh (45:42):
The voice acting is terrible.

Zach (45:43):
It's terrible and it's like, if you're going to do live
action, it's still I'm stilllooking at like a talking lion.
I still that feel like when youhave a like uh, animals
speaking, I don't, it shouldjust better, better served as a
cartoon.

Josh (45:58):
It's just weird being homeward bound made it work sure
, but because their mouthsdidn't correct.
But I don't know what you werebasically getting their inner
dog dialogue or thought I don'tknow what the motivation is or
what the thought is behind thelive action stuff.
I, that's you know they'redoing lilo and stitch at disney
started doing I don't know whoare we catering to, because this
doesn't look good.
I have, though, I will say forhost.

Zach (46:18):
So for lilo and stitch, I I don't think maybe it's already
out there.
They haven't had a trailer yet,have they?
They've had a teaser, teaserstuff.
That's it.
That's right, where you justsee stitch, I think and like.
And during the Super Bowl theyhad Stitch out on the fucking
field and shit.
It was a commercial for it.
And I will say this, though Iam curious as to who they're
going to have play Leeloo'ssister.

Josh (46:41):
Sister With them fucking hips, she won't look as good.
It'll probably be a dude.

Zach (46:45):
It'll probably be a dude that used to be a woman.
Hopefully he's got good hips.

Josh (46:51):
Yeah, there'll probably be a dude that used to be a woman.
Hopefully he's got good hips.
Yeah, hopefully he looks goodGood thighs.
Yeah, dude, I'm not on boardwith the live action stuff.
I have a little one that's inthat demographic for that stuff
and she doesn't like it.
She just tells me, like I don'tlike this.

Zach (47:04):
Yeah, it's gone too far and some stuff doesn't need to
be.

Josh (47:15):
Like, imagine we're're gonna do a live action remake of
toy story.
Like how the fuck's that gonnawork?
It'd be awkward.
Yeah, and we're gonna use tomhanks and tim out like what.
They're gonna look awful likeI'm sorry.

Zach (47:21):
Well, I mean, I just imagine it would be like a, you
know, a real, real woody doll,like a marionette, with the
fucking strength, like how youknow it's a twisted horror film
when you right pull hisintestines?

Josh (47:29):
Yeah, it'd be like a child's play Well you've seen
those cartoon clips where it'slike we couldn't tell you.
We couldn't tell you, Andy,because when we tell somebody
you get cancer, Right?
You've seen those videos?

Zach (47:42):
I did, I've seen the ones with videos and clips where it's
like Andy is a teenager that'sand clips where it's like.

Josh (47:49):
Andy is a teenager.

Zach (47:51):
I remember when I was that age.
I don't want my fucking toysbeing self-aware.

Josh (47:55):
Not seeing what I'm doing?
Yeah, 100%.

Zach (47:58):
Tell nobody Get the fuck out of here.

Josh (47:59):
You don't need to see my little ass thrusting.

Zach (48:03):
I have Steve learn to talk .

Josh (48:04):
Yeah, fuck.

Zach (48:06):
We've got a pet in the house.
It's awkward.

Josh (48:09):
They give you that whole APC, or whatever they call it, a
little grip.
The Sarah McLachlan look whenthe dogs were like shaking in
the cage.
Yeah.
You should donate today andwe're like no, no, yeah, it's
funny, you talk about the movies.
I actually bought CloseEncounters of the Third Kind.

Zach (48:31):
The.
You seen that a while youshould it's good dude.

Josh (48:33):
I don't even remember what happened.
The last time I saw that I waslike eight.
It's so good.
It's spielberg man it's got um.

Zach (48:36):
So I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say something, I'm gonna
say something okay that youprobably, you're probably gonna
disagree with we don't do itoften.
Let's hear it um, even whenever, even his peak.
I'm not a big spielberg, I'mnot going to argue that.

Josh (48:52):
That's your choice.
I'm not going to If you wouldhave said he's shitty.

Zach (48:56):
So for me I think he's overrated.
You know, I wouldn't put him inthe pantheon of best directors
of all time, because I think thestuff that he makes is kind of
shallow Well if you've watched.

Josh (49:13):
I've watched a lot of documentaries.

Zach (49:15):
It's not very thought-provoking the stuff that
he does.

Josh (49:17):
I've watched a lot of documentaries on Spielberg
because I do like Spielberg alot.
I think I like the way he it'slike George.
I mean, take George Lucas andhim.
I think Spielberg's in a lot ofincredible films like that.
They're still hold weight today.
But you don't, you know, Idon't.
I, after I watched a fewdocumentaries about him, I had

(49:40):
more respect for him as adirector, kind of doing.
I didn't realize the things hewas doing then different
techniques, differentphotography styles and the way
he directed a set, I think isreally interesting.
Watch one of those that arekind of I'm going to cut it up,
but yeah, I don't know if he'slike he's one of my favorites,
but the films he does are I like, a lot Like me.

(50:02):
I've all seen Jaws, jurassicPark Everybody's seen like his,
his heavy hitters but hererecently, but a lot of but here
recently.
He does a better job producing.

Zach (50:10):
I don't think he does.
It's like Ridley Scott to me.
Ridley Scott, he will hitthrough some fucking bangers,
but then he has actuallyprobably to me more misses than
hits yeah but Spielberg doesn'thave a lot of misses.
I wouldn't say misses, we'renot talking about like.
Shyamalan misses no.

Josh (50:29):
I know what you're talking about.
You're talking about RidleyScott.

Zach (50:32):
We talked about last week, where it was like they're like
one and dones and they don'treally inspire me to watch it
again.

Josh (50:35):
No Right, it's a one off.

Zach (50:37):
Like Super 8 is an example one.
I saw it one time I was likeokay.

Josh (50:40):
We saw that in theaters.
I remember when we saw that?

Zach (50:47):
Yeah, I've seen it.
I get that.
That's a classic.
And as a kid you've seen it abunch of times, but as an adult
I'm like eh.

Josh (50:54):
Yeah now.
Okay, so you're talking aboutreplayability, almost kind of
sort of.
Yeah, they don't like well, Imean, it's funny.
So we were talking about TimBurton today.
I know so his like, imagine,because Kylie was talking to him
, because Sleepy Hollow was onthis evening.
We were watching it.
Yeah.
And I was, of course, likediving in the woods, Like that's
Ray Park who did thischoreography and this actor is

(51:14):
this.
And my dad was like you knowtoo fucking much about this.
This is ridiculous.
I was like I know, I was like Ican't help it.
But Kylie was like I love TimBurton or she likes Johnny De.
I've done only a handful ofthings, but it's like.
My dad said he's like well, Idon't go back and re-watch
Edward Scissorhands.
I said no, it does not hold no.
It's carry weight at all.
It's weird.

(51:34):
It's a weird watch at once.

Zach (51:37):
That's how I feel about Beetlejuice, tim Burton's.
The same way Tim Burton's likeyou watch it one time you're
like that was weird.
It's not like Nolan Nolan.

Josh (51:44):
I rewatched.

Zach (51:49):
And not just because he did.

Josh (51:50):
Batman, interstellar, interstellar he's one of my
favorites.

Zach (51:53):
Even his.
You could say that it was hisone of his lesser movies.
I guess you could say it didn'tdo that well, as well as like
Interstellar and other things inthe box office.
And I can see why because itwas fucking hard to follow Tenet
.
Have you seen that?
I to follow Tenet?
Have you seen that?

Josh (52:07):
I have actually never watched Tenet you should watch
that.

Zach (52:09):
It's hard.
It's really hard If you watchInception.
I've actually never sat andwatched Inception all the way
through.
You should go watch it all theway through, so that one is a
brain bender.
We get to the end of it andyou're like how did that all tie
together?
You're trying to figure it out.
And then you go and watchthings about it and watch videos

(52:33):
and do an analysis.
I've even seen like a pictogramwhere it's like explained in
like linear and non-linear.

Josh (52:38):
I need to watch it.

Zach (52:39):
Same thing with Interstellar Tenet's hard to
follow.
Tenet, usually when I watch aNolan movie I'll go and find
there's someone has created,crafted an info, a pictogram, an
infographic uh that explains,usually like in the linear form,
the, the progression of themovie as you watched it.
But then it'll have like, uh,you know, links back and it'll

(53:02):
uh to other events.
And you just have to see one uhto where it kind of explains if
you were to watch the moviebackwards or you were to watch
the movie as another characterfrom their perspective, and kind
of ties it all togethervisually so you can kind of
understand the flow of how theybuilt the story.
And Interstellar does that andI've seen one and when I went to

(53:24):
go look at it, usually that onewas pretty straightforward by
the end of the story and thenthere's whatever the time jump
is when he gets into theTesseract.
That's actually humans.
So humans ended up sending backthe portal that they got to in
the first place all the way atthe back.

Josh (53:40):
So it was kind of a circle .

Zach (53:42):
Yeah, humans became fifth dimensional beings, built the
Tesseract, built the portal sothey could get to Gargantua,
teach them the gravitationalequation.
It's like a loop right in howthat worked.
So that was a pretty easyinfographic pictogram to figure
out.
And then the I think I'm sayingpictogram wrong.
I think that's something elseInfographic.

Josh (54:01):
It sounds really good.

Zach (54:01):
That's why I'm not arguing with you, right, but and then
Inception is kind of the samething, it's just different
layers of dream state.
So you have the top layer, thenyou have a second layer of
dreaming and then the layerabove affects the layers below.
And so if someone's like in thefirst layer in Inception is

(54:22):
they're driving around in thevan and whenever the van shifts
their body shifts, so thegravity in layer two shifts
around too.
I need to watch that, youshould watch it.
I'll check it out.
That one's pretty easy tofollow.
When I saw the infographic forTenet it made no fucking sense.

Josh (54:39):
It's a wild fucking thing.

Zach (54:39):
That's Denzel's son, one of his breakout films, yes,
Basic premise of that movie issomeone develops a machine that
reverses time.

Josh (54:48):
Yeah, essentially.

Zach (54:51):
But only for so long, right, and only for a certain.
You know, if you go on themachine you're reversed in time,
but you're you're going in timebackwards, but everybody else
is experiencing time literallygoing forward, normally, yeah,
so imagine that.
And it's also like they have towear oxygen masks, because if
you're going backwards, theoxygen is actually leaving your

(55:14):
body.
You can't actually take it inand whatever, so you have to
have an oxygen mask to feed theair.

Josh (55:19):
So it's a little more scientific, it's weird.

Zach (55:21):
It's crazy.
You should watch it.
That one's a mindfuck.
And I understand why that onedid not do as well.
I think for a couple of reasonsBecause it was too complicated.
Yeah, people couldn't quitefollow the story, although I
thought it was good.
And I think that DenzelWashington's son was his name I

(55:42):
can't think of his name rightnow, john David Washington.
I don't think he is not a leadactor.
I don't think he couldn't carrythe movie.
Okay, well, I mean he's alsogot a lot Robert.
Pattinson was really good,though.
Well, he's a people kind ofsleep on him.
He's a fantastic actor.
People kind of sleep on him andhe's a chameleon.
He's not a joke.

Josh (56:02):
Yeah, he's like Gary Oldman, he's a sleeper.

Zach (56:06):
But like Nolan, like those movies I'll watch again and
again, and again, becausethey're so I don't know.
They're so thought-provoking,they're so intriguing, they draw
you in, it's almost, it's epics.

Josh (56:16):
I mean really, they're like epics, they really draw you
in.

Zach (56:19):
I just don't get that with Spielberg.

Josh (56:20):
I don't get that.
I definitely don't get thatwith Tim Burton.
James Cameron has somethinglike that too obsessive water.
Well, I mean, the abyss is oneof my favorite, but he's all
balls deep in avatar right now.
Yep, um, but his later, hisearlier stuff was real good, I
mean well, I did, like alienstoo for God's sake, he brought
the queen on screen, Like I mean.

Zach (56:38):
So that's one of those ones.
So Ridley Scott did, uh, alien,alien 2, same thing Aliens.
I'll watch James Cameron, soall those have a lot of
replayability for me.
Maybe it's just a sci-fi thingand I know Spielberg does sci-fi
, but he does it, so it's sogeared toward kids.

(56:59):
The only thing I think I reallylike of his that I'll watch
again and again and again isJurassic Park.

Josh (57:08):
Yeah, close Encounters.
I've actually watched probably11 times since I bought it.
There's something about thewhole.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I like the whole thing.

Zach (57:12):
I like Spielberg a lot here would be my metric.
Nolan maybe doesn't do this,he's in a different category, I
think.
But directors, storytellers,let me say that storytellers
that create worlds, I think thereally good ones.
They create worlds that inspireother mediums to take up that

(57:35):
story in that world.
Right you know what I'm saying.

Josh (57:38):
Yeah.

Zach (57:39):
George Lucas, prime example.
He created a world, built aworld and told a story within
that world that other peoplewanted to mimic.
And then you have books, videogames you name it spinoffs.
Everybody wanted to be a partof that world that he created.
To me, that's the sign of agood filmmaker.
I mean technically yes,spielberg is probably a great

(58:00):
director.

Josh (58:01):
He's blah blah, blah, blah blah.

Zach (58:02):
Yes, I get it, I get it, but as far as a storyteller, a
world builder, it's just not forme.

Josh (58:08):
It's not for me, it's a, and everyone like I mean I like.
Gerald latour is one of my topthree favorite directors, yes,
but he's also a niche.
He makes some weird shit.
He does make some weird shitweird like, but like but
everything he makes I likepacific rim.

Zach (58:20):
That was a good world lady in the water was it lady in the
water?

Josh (58:22):
everybody got all up and armed when he she fucked that
that no, that was.

Zach (58:25):
Was that lady in the water ?

Josh (58:26):
no, that was uh hold on, I said it wrong, it's.

Zach (58:30):
Secret of Life of Water.
No Shape of Water.

Josh (58:33):
Shape of Water.
I love that movie.

Zach (58:34):
I hate that movie.

Josh (58:35):
I really enjoyed it.
I took it for what it was and Ienjoyed it a lot.
But he makes Crimson Peak wasone that he made.

Zach (58:41):
That was one that I watched.
He's kind of like he makes some.

Josh (58:46):
Now did you see his Pinocchio?
He's kind of like Tim Burton ina way.
He has a particular style.

Zach (58:52):
It's a very gothic style.

Josh (58:53):
His creature design is some of the best in the game.

Zach (58:55):
He's got a gothic style to him, a medieval gothic kind of
thing going on, and even PacificRim had a del Toro style to it.

Josh (59:03):
The monsters, the kaijus look similar to Hellboy-style
monsters.
And if you also watch is itCuriosities, cabin of
Curiosities that series he?

Zach (59:12):
did on Netflix, yep.
His style, you can tell it's onthere, definitely his style.

Josh (59:16):
I love his stuff.
Pan's Labyrinth was great.
His two years ago he did theanimated Pinocchio film on
Netflix Awesome.
I think I know what you'retalking about I hadn't seen that
Awesome, really cool movie.
He's one of he's for me, he'smy my top three for sure.

Zach (59:33):
Yeah, there's just.
There's probably only twodirectors that I would.
If they make something, I'mgoing to go watch it.
Well, I may have to amend thatsoon.
Is Christopher Nolan.
If he's making a movie, I.
If he's making a movie, I'mgoing to go watch it.

Josh (59:48):
His name alone draws me to that movie.
He's doing the.

Zach (59:51):
Odyssey?
Correct, I know, and I don'tcare about the Odyssey I've seen
.
Oh no, I want him to tell it tome.

Josh (59:57):
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.

Zach (59:59):
Yeah, we've all seen it.
I've seen the old one withArmand de Santi.

Josh (01:00:06):
Par 1.
And 2.

Zach (01:00:06):
Yeah, whenever the teacher would wheel out the fucking TV,
I was like we're watching.
I know what movie we'rewatching you talking about, ms
Myers?

Josh (01:00:11):
Yes, yes, yeah, dude, I know which movie we're watching.

Zach (01:00:14):
So you know, I've seen that movie.
It was an awesome movie.
It's a great movie.

Josh (01:00:17):
You know, maybe it was awesome because I was watching
it in class and wasn't actuallydoing the work.
Was that eighth?

Zach (01:00:25):
No, was a bitch.
10th grade, yep english.
Yeah, 10th english, she's abitch.
Yeah, she sucked, but shepulled out.

Josh (01:00:31):
She hated me she brought that tv out.
You know what she said.
She pulls it out and she waslike this movie that this guy's
in it and he's good looking andthey're like ew and she was like
well honey just because there'ssnow on the roof doesn't mean
the fire is not burning.

Zach (01:00:42):
I'm like I think she passed away, maybe or she's
already retired, I don't know,but she needed to.

Josh (01:00:49):
She was fucking hated kid.

Zach (01:00:50):
She hated.
I know One of those likequintessential, like pretty much
chair-ridden, like she was in amotorized scooter at the end
there.

Josh (01:00:58):
Well, one of the guys in our class put a condom in her
coffee.
Yeah, not used.
I'm going to go ahead and saythat she was a total bitch.

Zach (01:01:05):
Yeah, I don't know, she was like the trunchbull, she was
a bitter old lady, Bitter oldlady Fucking tired kids man.
She's been a teacher for waytoo damn long is probably what
it is, and she always.
There was one word that I heardprobably 30 times a day, every
day that entire year was behoove, yeah, it would behoove you to
get your pencil out right nowand I'm like behoove this bitch

(01:01:28):
Right, behoove this dick.
I know what you're saying,that's cool and then she would
always like, when she wastalking and she was going on
like a rant or she was evenscolding you, did she do it to
you where she would like look inthe corner.
She never like looked at you,zach.

Josh (01:01:40):
I'll be honest, I'm still afraid to go to the principal's
office.

Zach (01:01:50):
Okay, I somehow I've maybe been to the principal's office,
I don't know, maybe once ortwice.

Josh (01:01:56):
Dude the first time I pulled a car, I cried.

Zach (01:01:58):
But I was always on the edge.
I always pushed it.
I knew where the boundarieswere and I pushed it as far as
and I kept pushing the boundary.
I did this with.
My curfew too was growing up towhere I would be like a minute
late, and then I'd get introuble and be like you got to
get here.
I'm like, oh no, I'm sorry,I'll 1159, I'll be here, blah,

(01:02:20):
blah, blah.
And then I just would what wasyour curfew?
Well, let's say it started like10 o'clock.
Mine was 1030.
So it would be 9.59, and then Iwould push it one minute over,
and then I would 10 and then 15and then 30, and be like and so
I just kept pushing the goalpost and they'd be like, alright
, fine 11 o'clock, no later.
I'm like yes, 11 o'clock, Ipromise 11 o'clock, no later.

Josh (01:02:43):
Thank you, I love you blah , blah, blah, 11.01 11.05 and
then it's their fault forsetting that time.
Things happen.

Zach (01:02:52):
You know what I'm saying I tried to be here.
I tried to be here.

Josh (01:02:54):
Traffic's bad.

Zach (01:02:55):
Whatever.
I didn't want to speed, Ipushed the boundaries until
eventually the boundaries waslike all right, fuck it, just
don't knock anybody up doingdrugs.
I can't wait to tell your momthat I told her this later.
But so I did that at school too, where I, you know, you know
cutting up and talking andpassing notes.
I talked a lot All that.

(01:03:16):
You know backtalk and crackingjokes Like I pushed.
You know, when I say backtalkyou know a little bit of sass,
but fun, respectable sassRespectable sass, you know I
kept it.
I kept myself out of theprincipal's office and out of
trouble, but I got ISS one time.
Oh no, I would have cried.
I'm pretty sure I've been tothe principal's office a couple
of times at least, but it wasn'ta habitual thing.

(01:03:39):
I never got sent home, nevergot suspended, yeah, but did get
ISS, I think, one time, andthat's where I was, like I
crawled you did push theboundary too much.

Josh (01:03:52):
You did, I was a badass I'm good, no, dude, I I mean the
first time I even pulled us.
I had to pull.
You're used to like pull cardsin elementary school I was
homeschooled.
Oh that's right, okay let metell you about public school
what they would do.
Well, when did you get out ofhomeschool six?

Zach (01:04:07):
when did you get out of homeschool?
Uh, half of seventh grade.
So I started in middle schoolreally like last three months of
seventh grade, and then I wentright into eighth and ninth,
tenth.

Josh (01:04:17):
Well, in elementary school , I think it started in fourth
grade, fifth, grade Fifth gradeI remember vividly, but you had
card colors.
You had green, yellow, orangeand red.
You don't want to fuck aroundwith red, bad too.
Yellow was like a warning, butevery year at the end of the
year they would do like anall-star party.
So all the kids that didn't getin trouble got to go like to a

(01:04:39):
party.
So I was like, yeah, dude, wellI got, I had to pull a card
because some fucking twat I gotin trouble with he was actually
his fault.
But I had, dude, I fuckingteared up in that fucking
classroom because I want to goto that fucking party and I had
to pull a card.
Dude, I was so fucked up aboutit.
So, dude, I know I'm ever sincejust terrified to get in

(01:04:59):
trouble.

Zach (01:05:00):
No, way, dude, see it's like uh, maybe that's my man
maybe I'll just I'm gonnapsychoanalyze you real quick
okay, maybe that's the reasonwhy you're like into, you know,
adventure sports I don't know isbecause, in you know, normal
life you're actually and yeah,the also reason why you like got
all the tattoos, it's becauseyou're actually like pretty
straight laced dude, prettystraight edge pretty straight

(01:05:23):
edge and so the only that's theway you rebel.
I don't know, just yourstraight edge and then my
haircuts.
I told my the tattoos.

Josh (01:05:30):
I told Derek I was like dude, I'm having a midlife
crisis on my haircut and he waslike alright, man, whatever you
want.
But yeah, I don't know, dude,fuck, I don't even know how I
like stumbled, like I like.
I said I'm not gonna.
I won't dwell on an entireepisode of me and my how want.

Zach (01:05:46):
Well, yeah, get to know your hosts.

Josh (01:05:48):
We should do that one time , uh, I don't know how I got
stumbered on bikes like we'dalways read fuller stuff, but
like I just got bit by the bugearly, like 11 or 12, I got my
first, my first one out ridingone of my buddies and like it
just took off dude from there.
Like there was a period to likeand I feel bad for my mom, but
there was like the house when Ilived at home was full of like

(01:06:10):
catalogs Every day.
The videos were on.
The weekends were nothing butriding Graphic tees, flat bills,
like everything revolved arounddirt bikes.
Yeah.
Like I got my ears pierced.
I started eating tattoosbecause of the dirt bike
magazines Not so much anymore,but like that's where it started
and then it just like that's.

(01:06:31):
My entire personality was basedoff of that particular sport.

Zach (01:06:35):
Yeah right, and it's just really never stopped.
I think that happens.
I think everybody does haveSome people pick up stuff later
in life too, but there's alwaysthat one thing that you got
hooked into.

Josh (01:06:46):
Yeah.
I still do it.

Zach (01:06:48):
When you were a teenager, you were like 12, know that that
age yeah the developing age um.
We're developing um physicallyboners but uh, sorry, when I was
just when I said we'redeveloping.

Josh (01:07:06):
That's what I was thinking boners and bush voices crack.

Zach (01:07:13):
Yeah, dude, I'm on, still cracks um oh my god, it's funny.

Josh (01:07:19):
You said the mature dude.
I have so many fucking stories.
We'll have to do like a specialon that, but I think there's
always something that happensthat you get into at that age,
that you just it becomes anobsession.
Yeah, it does.

Zach (01:07:33):
If I was to analyze mine, I really think mine's video
games.

Josh (01:07:38):
I could see that Well, I mean, I've known you for almost
20 years now.

Zach (01:07:41):
I get into all sorts of different types of video games.
I play pretty much anything andeverything under the sun and I
like the process.
I kind of follow the studios.
You know what I mean.

Josh (01:07:52):
I follow some of the things that happen.
Well, you're a movie and TV showguy too.
Movie and TV show for sure, butI think, if I had to, pick.

Zach (01:07:58):
I don't know movies is hard to.
I just love the visual form.

Josh (01:08:02):
But I mean it's also I think video games would still be
for you.
I think video games is numberone.

Zach (01:08:07):
And as they're getting better and more immersive.
Like I don't know, peoplecomplain about the price, cost
or whatever.

Josh (01:08:13):
To me, Price doesn't bother me it doesn't bother me.

Zach (01:08:15):
If you've, if you've created a like again like, if
you've created a world thatdraws me in and I want to live
in it.

Josh (01:08:22):
I'm so return on my investment.
It's.
It's worth 60 bucks, yeah, or70.
70.
Dude, I'll spend it.
I mean it's.

Zach (01:08:29):
I don't care, Because to me I'm going to get.

Josh (01:08:30):
It's like you said.
It's the way I just said.
Like it's a return on myinvestment, like I'll get a good
game You'll get.
I mean, look how much.
Destiny.
Look what we did with that.
Oh, I know.
I mean it's, I've probably morethan any of the group, but it
was a 40 game.
Yeah, I may have spent 80 totaland I've got 500 600 hours in

(01:08:54):
that game when people theycomplain about the.

Zach (01:08:57):
So especially a perpetual game like that, like destiny or,
uh, you know, live servicegames yeah to where they're
constantly developing newcontent.
Dlcs come out, drops, you know,whatever patches, and if they
just adding more content as timegoes on, it it used to be.
They make the game, theyrelease it.
You pay one price, you canreplay as many times as you want
, but there's nothing new.
Live service games now arealmost the norm these days.

Josh (01:09:22):
At least 50%.
The bar is high.

Zach (01:09:24):
And so, yeah, I'll keep paying that because it's a
continued experience.
Destiny was a 10-year fuckinggame and, like I said, I dropped
$1,000, but over a 10-yearperiod, oh I have to.
And how many hours I put intothat game Probably more.
It was worth it to me.
I don't want people who arebitches like, oh, games are $70
now.
I'm like you've been playingthis game for 10 years.

(01:09:46):
I just tell them don't play 10years.
What were you talking about?
I can understand the beef ifit's a linear RPG and it's like
one story.
It's not a live service game.
Nothing's new happening with it.
But even ones like that arestarting to be like that To,

(01:10:06):
where they add more DLCs andmore content to keep it going.
Like Elden Ring you know, hugegame that's got a huge fan base
Big price tag Comes out withmore DLC and they're dropping
them, basically free, yep, andthat's awesome, so that's good
for them.
But if they even charge money,I would you know, if I was an
Elden Ring player I would getinto it.

(01:10:27):
But a lot of those I it, but alot of those I'm noticing a lot
of those um action, rpgs andmmos that are um, well, I guess.
I guess elden ring isn't moreof an mmo.
I don't know, I really play butanyway I wouldn't call, even the
ones that are just singleplayer, is not online at all.
You don't really play withanybody else.
They still trickle out contentto add to the game, to keep you

(01:10:47):
going or whatever, and I thinkthat's funny.
Even games that don't do that,sometimes I'll go back and
replay them every once in awhile because I hadn't played in
a while.
Like um, um, what's a game thatI've actually played a couple
of times?
Uh, through, uh, some of thefinal fantasy games?
Yeah, um, I've played through acouple of times, a few times.
God of War I've played througha couple of times, because

(01:11:11):
sometimes they're just fun.
You just forget the battles thatyou've got to do fighting the
bosses.

Josh (01:11:14):
I went back and played Skyrim.
Skyrim is a good example.

Zach (01:11:17):
That's not online at all.
They're not adding content toit.
And then when you get into thePC thing and you start doing it
and modding, that opens upeverything.

Josh (01:11:25):
And now you can console mod.

Zach (01:11:33):
The consoles have modding now too, so those games hold,
I'll pay.

Josh (01:11:34):
Yeah, so like 60 bucks, I need shit shut the fuck up yeah,
you know, I mean don't buy ityou.

Zach (01:11:39):
I guarantee you you could stop buying some bullshit for a
week.
Bullshit, ass, coffee orwhatever you get would gave me
that game.

Josh (01:11:46):
Well, you know, the gaming community is tough.
I know they're a whiny bunch ofwhiny motherfuckers.

Zach (01:11:50):
Um, maybe it's because you know half of gaming community
is tough oh, I know they're awhiny bunch.
They're a bunch of whinymotherfuckers.
Maybe it's because you knowhalf of the audience is children
and they have no money, but Idon't know.
Get your parents to fucking.
Your parents are buying itanyway.

Josh (01:11:59):
I guarantee you it's not.
I bet that's a small minoritygroup.
I'm sure it's probably our age.

Zach (01:12:13):
It's probably would say yeah, back to that would be.
The bug that I I got was wasprobably video games early on.
That's a fair, that's fair.
I would say that that'd be mything, you know, which is also
you know.
I wish my mind would have been,you know, like wrestling or
boxing or something like that bein better shape spelunking,
skydiving, something, fuckjousting.

Josh (01:12:30):
No, I was destined to be a yeah, but you're also a big
adventure guy too.
Like when you're on vacation.
You're like a different, youbecome like a different person
I'm gonna.
I'm an adventure guy, that'swhat I'm saying, so an
experienced guy, so like yeahbecause we've, we've been, I
mean I've the two biggest tripsI've been on for city wise, my
two vegas trips.

Zach (01:12:46):
You were there like so I've seen you in in the cut,
like, yes, in the action I thinkthat's my thing, as I just like
experiences, so I get boredwith something I'll trust I
gotta I've got always got to trysomething new yeah uh, except
dick can't try dick can't trydick um, you can try ice cream
can't try dick, can't try dickso, uh, you know, if someone's

(01:13:09):
like, hey, you want to go dothis new thing, I'm like, yeah,
sure, sounds cool, let's do it.
Yeah, you know, I'm anexperienced guy like, and even
when I buy things, sometimesit's expensive things eight
dollar.
Chicken sandwich is eightdollars, it's the experience of
eating an eight dollar chickensandwich.
Yeah right, you know, I'msaying 100, not because it's
eight dollars.
It's not getting like premiumchicken.
I want to say it was reallybecause the everyone's saying
like this is a bad-ass chickensandwich, but it's $8.

(01:13:31):
And I'm like, fuck it.
You telling me that I can havelike one of the best chicken
sandwiches that man has evercreated.
That's an experience.
I'm going to go try it.
I'll pay whatever.

Josh (01:13:41):
Hey, I've been down the pasta sauce aisle and bought the
most expensive one to see if itwas worth the price.
Yeah right, I've done it.
It was $14.
And I'm like we'll see if it'sgood.
Yeah.

Zach (01:13:52):
And I think that I think there is some.
There is sometimes something tothat.
You're damn right, because itdepends on what it is Like.
If you're, if you're talkingabout a difference of a couple
of dollars, who gives a shit?
But there is 10 bucks andsomething that's a hundred
dollars.

Josh (01:14:12):
Yeah, the same item you're like it's not just marketing no
, something is something else.

Zach (01:14:14):
There's something different.
What is it?
I need to experience it.
But if you're saying somethingbetween ten dollars and fifteen
dollars, well, I'll just get theten dollar one, because I
guarantee the 15 of one is notmuch different than the ten
dollars you know, I mean, thatis bark versus reward here.
All right, yeah right, that'strue you know I'm saying um, but
then I think there is an,there's another level that's
higher than that.
Then it's all just about namerecognition, branding, like like

(01:14:35):
uh, you know a lot of thefashion stuff.
Like I don't get the fashionstuff.
Like it's all made out of thesame fucking shit.
That's correct, it's designed.
Maybe it's designed a littlebit better, but it doesn't
justify the tens of thousands ofdollars that some of these
fucking pieces of clothing arefucking worth.

Josh (01:14:52):
You know what I'm saying these are.
These jeans are from Walmart.

Zach (01:14:55):
Yeah, and most, mostly women's clothes are kind of
doing that, but dude's clothesdo the same thing, like like
Louis Vuitton, okay, like.

Josh (01:15:02):
I get it's.

Zach (01:15:02):
Italian it's, I guess it's Italian, and it's well-made,
it's handcrafted.
It's not worth orders ofmagnitude more than the most
expensive thing at, you know,kohl's.

Josh (01:15:23):
It is better.
I bought my wife one.

Zach (01:15:25):
Yeah, I get it Anniversary .
I don't think it's orders ofmagnitude better.

Josh (01:15:29):
Yeah, because you're you're paying for the name,
you're paying for the qualityand stuff.
But there is some items inthere, like I got her one for
anniversary, but you know Iwalked in I said just pick out
which one you want likereasonably.
But you know there's some ofthem that are 10, 15, 20, I mean
there's Birkin makes handbagsthat are 20 to 50 grand.

Zach (01:15:47):
So say, if you go into that Louis Vuitton store and you
saw something that was athousand dollars, and something
that's the same as a purse orwherever the fuck it is.

Josh (01:15:54):
It's a purse, yeah.

Zach (01:15:55):
And it's another one that's $10,000.
What is the biggest difference?

Josh (01:15:58):
That's correct.

Zach (01:15:59):
Is there a $10,000 difference between those two?

Josh (01:16:01):
$9,000 difference between these two.
When I saw them, there wasn't.
However, I don't know enoughabout it to see.
I don't think there would be inmy opinion.
What about the craft of that?
Is there only three of thoseever made?

Zach (01:16:16):
Well see, that's not even like being better.
That is all about branding andscarcity and that's the reason
why it's $10,000.
Supply-demand, but I'm notsaying like if they made a
thousand of each item and made athousand $1,000 purses and they
made a thousand $10,000 purses,you can't.
There's only so much better,right, a purse can fucking be,

(01:16:38):
that's correct.

Josh (01:16:38):
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
I don't know.

Zach (01:16:40):
You know it's crazy handcrafted with the best
materials.
They're both made like.
How much better can can fuckingleather be?
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
I don't know that that's.
That's the part about fashion tome that doesn't make sense is
that it has it has a limit towhere obviously you can't craft

(01:17:02):
it any better, you can't usebetter materials.
You're already using the bettermaterials but you're still
going to charge orders ofmagnitude more just because of
the name and the branding andthe scarcity of the item, or
whatever.
That's the part about fashion Ijust don't quite get.
I was like, because I'm anexperienced person about fashion
, I just don't quite get.
I was like, because I'm anexperienced person, like
experience of me walking aroundwith custom shoes or whatever is

(01:17:24):
fine, or whatever, because Ilike the experience of wearing
these really good shoes.

Josh (01:17:27):
Yeah.

Zach (01:17:28):
But I don't care that, it's the.
You know, I've only got one of10.
I don't.
That doesn't add to theexperience to me.
Does that make sense?
That does, yeah, that's justshowing off and be like oh, look
at me, I only got.
It's only 10 in the world andI've got one of them.
I don't, I don't, that isn't, Idon't give a fuck.

Josh (01:17:44):
Yeah, yeah, it just sounds pretentious and you sound like
a douche.
That's just me, yeah.
Speaking of, what does theshirt say?
You have on Dirt man.
So what is that?

Zach (01:17:59):
I don't know.
I'll do this thing.
I'm scrolling around Instagram.
I'll give you a littlebackstory.
I've done this several times.
I'm scrolling around Instagramand the algorithm's doing its
thing.
It keeps showing me certainvideos.
Sometimes I don't know if it'sorganic.
This algorithm, I think, istrying to push things sometimes.

(01:18:19):
Sure, I ended up coming acrossthis music creator and it you
hate music.

Josh (01:18:26):
Huh, you hate music.

Zach (01:18:27):
Well, he makes goofy little catchy elevator music,
kind of like jingle kind of shit.
He'll make jingles forcommercials and other kind of
whatever.
It's kind of funny and it'skind of humorous and it's kind
of funny and it's kind ofhumorous and it's it's kind of
weird and it's one it's likelike you were talking about
earlier.
You just get sucked intowatching the thing sometimes and
so I ended up getting suckedinto watching like his videos
and he had like a shirt and Iwas like, yeah sure, I'll

(01:18:48):
support the dude and I hit this.
This shirt does and it's reallyfunny.

Josh (01:18:54):
That's cool my head.

Zach (01:18:56):
Hey, man, I'll buy t-shirts off people to support
whatever they're doing and thenthe algorithm also will send do
ads, and sometimes you see thesame ad all over again and again
and again.
You're like I'm fucking tiredof this ad.
You know, I mean, you know,yeah, of course.
Well, eventually, sometimes I'mjust like, you know, fuck it,
I'll just.
I've been seeing this ad abajillion times.
It's like it works, yeah andI'll try it out.
And now I, I, sometimes I I getobsessed with stuff Like.

(01:19:18):
Here's an example Uh, I used tosee ads all the time of flock
chicken chips.
You know what I'm talking about?
Nope, you ever seen?
Okay, well, anyway, they're.
They're basically just chickenskins that they like fried up
and seasoned and it's, that'sall it is is chicken skins.
It it's not processed oranything like that, it's just
they fried up some fuckingchicken skins and kind of like

(01:19:38):
pork cracklings, except chickenskins.
And I kept seeing the ad onInstagram over and over and over
and over again, and they'realways weird and kind of, but
they draw you in somehow becausethey're so weird.
I said, fuck it, man, thisdude's having a blast eating
these fucking chips.
I'm going to try them and so Iend up getting them and they're
great.
They're a little expensive andthey've kind of like gone

(01:20:00):
through some problems andthey're.
They kind of suck now butthey're really good at the time.
Another one a fresh chilicompany.
I got really into hatch chilies.
I kept seeing this fuckingcommercial all again and again
and it's just like this dude outon a damn farm in New Mexico
Hatch Chili Farm in Hatch, newMexico.
That's where it's at and it'swhere you make these chilies and

(01:20:22):
you know just peppers and theyfucking make them.
They you know, roast them andthey put a jar them up and they
put some other shit in it orwhatever, and they make these
really good.
You know, you just eat thechilies raw or you can, or like
in a jar, and then they alsohave like sauces and mustards
and ketchups and all this kindof shit, and so I started trying

(01:20:42):
some of it and I've got some inthe fridge right now.
Actually, before you came over,I was having some of their
green chili sauce on a burgerand it's fucking phenomenal.
Now I'm obsessed.

Josh (01:20:52):
Okay, so your Amazon obsession is also you're like a
thank God QVC's not racking androlling in this bitch.

Zach (01:21:06):
Yes, and I am my father's son.

Josh (01:21:07):
Okay, that's what.

Zach (01:21:07):
I said you said that right , I knew what you meant he does
the same kind of thing, Likehe'll get into gadgets and
widgets and fucking see shit on.
Tv and he's like I gotta try,try one, Like one Christmas we
ended up getting a Bop itbecause he kept seeing the
commercials for Bop it, yeah,and we ended up getting a Bop it
and he fucking beat Bop itthree times.
Yeah, it's pretty hard, I don'tknow, if you know you have to

(01:21:31):
do 300 things in a row withoutfailing to beat Bop it.

Josh (01:21:36):
Well, he's an assassin, and he did it three times.
He's an assassin.
That's what that is.
I've seen the man shoot yeah,he's an assassin.
Yeah, dude, I mean, like youknow it's, it's all attaching an
emotion to a product prettymuch when I started learning
about.
It's like an experience yeah,that's what you're doing like.

Zach (01:21:51):
That's why I buy the shit that I buy yeah, like I could, I
could, I don't know, likeEspecially stuff like that.
I looked around I was like oh,let me just try some chicken
chips, just chips that are madeout of chicken skin, just see
what it tastes like, because Iwas curious, like a chicken pork
rind.

Josh (01:22:08):
And.

Zach (01:22:08):
I would look around, I couldn't find shit.
And they were literally theonly company that was making it
like that.
And the rest of them.
They would take chicken piecesand make a chip out of it.
It and the rest of them.
They would take, you know,chicken pieces and make like a
chip out of it.

Josh (01:22:20):
You know, it's just kind of like, yeah, that's not the
same thing I want you to justtake a fucking like chicken
crackling and fucking.

Zach (01:22:25):
I couldn't really find a company that did it, because I
looked all over the place andthey were only ones that really
kind of did it and they had likea hattie b's hot nashville
chicken uh flavor and I was likefuck, yes, and so I got.
You know, that's the ones Iended up getting.
So to me that was like an, itwas an experience and it was
good.

Josh (01:22:41):
It's same thing with the hatch chili as, I looked around
that dude and tagged him oninstagram with a shirt.

Zach (01:22:47):
I've hit him up before, yeah what I mean.

Josh (01:22:48):
You need to make sure you tag your shirt when you ordered
it yeah, I did.

Zach (01:22:52):
Oh, okay, cool, I was like , because that's when I got it.

Josh (01:22:54):
Yeah when people like.
That's what I get excited whenI see people wearing my shirts
like they'll tag on Instagram.
There's something about it.
It's really cool, like theywent out of their way.
Uh, actually.

Zach (01:23:02):
So, speaking of your shirts, um, you know I got some
and when I got them, uh, they'rebuilt for someone who works out
all the time.
I may need a different sizeshirt, but I kind of put it on
today, you know because I'mgetting black, I'm not looking.

Josh (01:23:18):
Which one, the green.
You have the green and tan.
I have all black ones.
I need a black one, actually.
I need to order one.

Zach (01:23:24):
We'll just talk to you, whatever I think I got an XL,
but still an XL, for that styleis not built.
I'm shaped like a fuckingpotato right now fucking potato
right now.
Okay, I've got, I've got somedifferent sizes, yeah, and I you
know the black one's cool dudeand I like I don't have like
huge, I don't have huge biceps,but I have big arms.

(01:23:44):
That makes sense.
I guess.

Josh (01:23:46):
So it was a little.
I got you dude yeah they're anathletic fit shirt.

Zach (01:23:49):
Yeah, the athletic fit.
For sure I'm not an athleticfit I understand right now.

Josh (01:23:53):
well, I had custom sizes made for.
We'll do a shout out for StreetBike Tommy.
I don't know if you've everheard of Street Bike Tommy, but
if you watch Nitro Circus, I didput it on, okay.

Zach (01:24:03):
And it fit a little bit better.

Josh (01:24:05):
Well, that's good.
Yeah, they're nice shirts.

Zach (01:24:07):
I still had some like man tits going on that's okay.
So I was like this is reallykind of accentuating the man
titties.
They do.
I need to.
I'll get you a black one.
I wouldn't wear it out rightnow.
I'll bring you a black one.

Josh (01:24:18):
Okay, the black one is slimming the black one also cuts
.
I'll bring you a black one.
I'll bring it to you next week.
Yeah, I only did a small batchof them, but I had some 2Xs made
, not saying you need one.

Zach (01:24:29):
I could probably rock a 2, and he's a big, big deal guy to
me.

Josh (01:24:32):
As I grew up watching him, I sent him some 2Xs.
Well, I have leftover 2Xs thatlike Send them my way.

Zach (01:24:45):
I'll pay for them too.
You don't have to pay for them.
I'll bring you one.

Josh (01:24:47):
Yeah, just let me know what you think.

Zach (01:24:53):
They're nice shirts, if I could, I.

Josh (01:24:55):
And it's the same.
It's the same brand, sameathletic fit style shirt.
They fit, they fit, they feelreally good.
Yeah, I love my shirts.

Zach (01:25:00):
Like I said, if I wasn't, you know, shaped like a bowl of
pudding, then they wouldprobably fit really well, I got
you.

Josh (01:25:07):
Well, whenever you get done deputifying, you can trade
it in for a smaller.
You know that reminds me ofthat.

Zach (01:25:15):
Between Two Ferns episode with Jennifer Lawrence.

Josh (01:25:18):
Yes.

Zach (01:25:18):
And Zach Galifianakis' show and she's like, says
something like she says.
He says to her he says do youthink people sometimes think
that you're kind of off-puttingand she was like you should be
off-putting Because you're fat?
Do that, it's so, it's allstaged or whatever, but it's so

(01:25:39):
funny.

Josh (01:25:40):
The bloopers for that are great too yeah dude.
He said do you think when heasked Benedict Cumberbatch about
his accent, is that why youthink like it covers up you
being a bad actor?

Zach (01:25:50):
Yeah, right, or something the accent does.
Yeah, watching the bloopers andlike crack up is so good.
Yeah, dude.

Josh (01:25:55):
I was going to bring some up before we sign off.
Okay, like happening in theworld.
I mentioned this last week, butI want to talk about it because
it's been on the news.

Zach (01:26:02):
We're about an hour and a half in, so we probably should
be the last thing.

Josh (01:26:04):
We'll just get this out.
So I'm sure you've seen aboutthe asteroid that has recently
made the news.

Zach (01:26:11):
Oh yeah.

Josh (01:26:11):
Have you heard anything?

Zach (01:26:13):
about this.
It started off at like 1% andit's got up to like 3.6% or some
shit.
So I watched a video withProbability sorry Probability of
it hitting earth.
It started off at 1%, now it'sup to it's bounced from as of
two days ago, it was 2.3.
So, as far as statistics go,what that means in practical
terms, there is a 3% chance.

(01:26:34):
But what they're actually kindof saying if you read between it
, it started off.
There is a 3% chance.
But what they're actually kindof saying if you read between it
start off at 1% and it'stripled in probability.

Josh (01:26:40):
That's correct.
Since then, about a 1 in a 45.
Right, is what that?
One of them?
I heard one, yes, but Ilistened to this guy today, this
gentleman I forget his name,he's old Neil deGrasse Tyson,
he's a prick Okay.

Zach (01:26:53):
Well, his lane, he's an astrophysicist, yes, so he was
on there.

Josh (01:26:56):
He gets into politics and he's a fucking retard, I'm not
no stay, stay with what you know.

Zach (01:27:00):
He, he thinks that there's more than two sexes okay, I'm
out.

Josh (01:27:04):
So he's an idiot purely just talking about the asteroid.
But anyways, if you guys arenot up today with the news
because they hit, if you get onsocial media, get anywhere, it's
like they of course make itterrifying and start
fear-mongering it.
But anyways, it's an asteroidthat they're saying is between
150 to 300 meters.
They don't know the exact sizeof it yet.

Zach (01:27:24):
Um, that's like taller than the in the uh stature that
has a chance of hitting um in2032 is that right.
December 2032, something likethat 2035 yeah, here it is.
Asteroid yr4 could hit earth in2032?
.

Josh (01:27:36):
Something like that 2035, 2032.
Yeah, here it is, asteroid YR4could hit Earth in 2032.
So seven years.
So you have time to plan.

Zach (01:27:43):
Was projected.
Path is like over fucking.

Josh (01:27:45):
So they said it could hit towards Ireland and Asia and
then India, all that area.
That's the kind of I've seen,but the Earth is covered with
mostly water.
Yes, 100%.
And also a lot of unpopulatedareas and also a lot of
unpopulated areas.
So you're talking about goingby.
What this gentleman said is, ifit hits, you typically take the
size and then you'll double theactual what the crater would be

(01:28:07):
.
So he's thinking about a milewide crater if it hit.
So he's like it's not going togo extinct, it's going to do
city damage.

Zach (01:28:17):
People are going to die if they don't evacuate.
It was like a.
Was it supposed to be like a400 megaton?
Bomb, yeah, something like that, which I think is something
like it's a couple times biggerthan the Hiroshima, With no
radiation.
With no radiation, justexplosion.

Josh (01:28:28):
There's no, yeah just purely that part.
So, but I was.
It's kind of wild because thereason it's making news is
because it's the first time thishas happened, when there's one
that's had that high apercentage.
Yes, there's hundreds of themthat they monitor and there's an
entire department that monitorsall this.

Zach (01:28:43):
Well, every once in a while they'll say like yeah, an
asteroid came closest to theEarth and you're like it was
like 30 million miles away andyou're like what the fuck it's?

Josh (01:28:50):
got to come within so many , because they base it off I
believe I'm from her correctlyis about how the distance
between the moon and the earth.
Yeah, so it's, yeah, it'll beway out, and you're like how the
fuck is that a miss?

Zach (01:29:00):
it's not even between like earth and moon's orbit.

Josh (01:29:02):
It's like because in the year 2029, apotheosis, another
big asteroid that's going tocome within 20 000 feet.
It'll come lower than somesatellites.
It'll cross through our orbityou actually, they're actually
on this.

Zach (01:29:13):
Why no not?

Josh (01:29:14):
this one.
This is an ap, a hypothesis.
Another huge asteroid that wassupposed to come close but now
it's been deemed not but it'scoming close enough that they're
actually going to launch arocket to monitor and get close
to it.
I know what they're doing.
They want to mine that bitch.
I don't care what anybody says,Because there is this raw
material and there's no, it'skind of protected Nothing that

(01:29:36):
gauges what kind of mining youcan do in space.
So they want to the plan that Iheard with some other people
that were talking about, likeyou know, conspiracy they want
to get one to slow it down andput it in our orbit so they can
mine that bitch.
Okay, because it's worthbillions of dollars, trillions
of dollars.
It's funny you say that becausethere's a TV show where they do

(01:29:57):
that.

Zach (01:29:57):
They did this thing.
Yeah, it's on Apple.
It's awesome.
I've watched the whole show.
I'm all caught up on it.
It's for all mankind they mined.
Basic premise is if theRussians beat us to the moon,
how would historical eventsplayed out if we were an actual
space race and we lost and wewere trying to catch up to the
Russians?
It's basically the premise ofit, and so you think about like,

(01:30:21):
once we went to the, once theUS went to the moon, we won.
The Soviet Union collapsedbecause we basically like the
basic theory of how the SovietUnion collapsed.
Besides that communism failseverywhere it's tried.
Is that we just we forced themstride?

(01:30:43):
Is that we just we forced them?
The space race and the armsrace basically bankrupted the
soviet union because theycouldn't their their economic
engine.
Communism could not keep upwith capitalism's economic
engine right and we bankruptedthem we forced them to spend too
much on on space and anddefense and else.
That's the basic theory.
Well, so what would happen ifthe Russians beat us to the moon
?
Then we would be playing catchup right, and it would be a

(01:31:06):
constant battle of trying to getsupremacy in space.

Josh (01:31:10):
Yeah.

Zach (01:31:10):
Right, and that's the idea and that competition since
pretty much the US has had.
You know we part with otheragencies and all this kind of
stuff, but as far as likeinnovating in that arena, in
space, we're number one.
We don't really have acompetition there.
China is probably, is closesecond Well, I wouldn't say

(01:31:32):
close second, they're second sobut it's not really a
competition.
They don't really get one up onus and then we have to come back
right so that competitionbreeds innovation and drive and
ambition and all this kind ofstuff.
To where eventually it leads?
To?
Where they have like a moonbase and eventually, like, the
next big thing is like uh, we'vewell, we didn't beat them on

(01:31:54):
the moon, we're gonna beat themto mars, right?
And so there's a big race toMars in the show and then
eventually they colonize Mars.
There's a Mars base and then,yes, the last season was a
big-ass asteroid that'sbasically worth like $40
trillion or some bullshit ofrare Earth metals.
They end up capturing it intoMars' orbit and the plot of the

(01:32:19):
last season was that they weretrying to get it to capture into
Earth's orbit so Earth couldmine the stuff.
But the people of Mars whatever, they had a vested interest in
keeping the Mars base going andthey captured it in Mars' orbit
so that Mars would have to exist, the colony there, in order to

(01:32:40):
harvest the, the minerals fromthis asteroid.
So like for all mankinddefinitely, if you're kind of
like into the alternativehistory kind of things, then
seeing how it would play out ifone thing changed in our history
, like how it would play out, oh, I love that kind of shit.
It's super interesting.
Um go watch.
It's on my list, it's the samesame.
Uh, in that kind of shit.

Josh (01:32:57):
It's super interesting.
Go watch it.
It's on my list.

Zach (01:33:00):
It's in kind of the same vein, a little less sci-fi, a
little less, I don't know.
There's a metaphysical aspectto man in the High Castle.

Josh (01:33:11):
The Nazis one.

Zach (01:33:13):
There's some science fiction a little bit to that one
too, but it's alternate history.
If one thing changed, if theisgot the atom bomb before we did,
is basically changes the courseof history.
And then you extrapolate whatwould that look like in the
1960s, in the 70s, 80s, you know?
Yeah, I love that kind of shit.
So for all mankind.
It's funny you mentioned thatbut yeah, that's, that's what.

Josh (01:33:35):
that's what their the plan is.
The plan is to come to fruition.

Zach (01:33:39):
But yeah, this one, I'm curious, they're going to Well,
they had that one that went upthere, that they call it the
pogo stick, the dart yeah, whereit bounced on and gathered
stuff on it.

Josh (01:33:50):
Well, that might be something different, but the
dart was when they launched thatrocket to see if they could
change the trajectory of theasteroid.

Zach (01:33:56):
Yeah, that's a different one.
Okay, yeah, this one was justit bounced, and every time it
did it it grabbed a sample.

Josh (01:34:02):
Oh, okay, yeah, no, but this one coming like I mean,
they have time, you've got sevenyears and also it could change
when it gets too far out.
That's when they'll build it.
Once they get a good look at itbut too far in its orbit, it'll
be some time before we can comeback and see it again.

Zach (01:34:17):
There's time they have things lined up that they could
try these things are moving attens of thousands, hundreds of
thousands of miles an hourrelative to.

Josh (01:34:25):
Earth.
Who knows man?
I will tell you if it would be.
Of course I don't want it tohappen, but it would be wild to
see it on footage.
You saw the one years ago thatwent over siberia, that like
knocked out windows, and it wassmall in comparison yeah, I
don't think it made landfall, itexploded in the air, but I mean
it was wild.

(01:34:46):
So, yeah, that's that.
I saw that and I was like fuck,here we go.
Well, I mean, you know just the, the, but not three or four
days ago, four or five of themzipped by us.

Zach (01:34:54):
They happen all the time, oh it happens the time, and so
you're thinking like eventuallyone will hit.
But the thing is like most ofspace is so fucking big it's
mostly empty that you wouldthink that if you just look at
the number of objects that arein the sky that we can see, you
would think we'd be getting hitwith them all the time.

Josh (01:35:15):
No, they sit with them but they don't Because there's so
much empty space.
A hundred years one could hit,I mean obviously like a big one.
There's big ones that they deemplanet destroyer.

Zach (01:35:26):
I mean you see the craters all over the moon, that's
because it didn't really have anatmosphere or life to be able
to cover it over and the Earthhad as many at the time.
But that was it was those wereall happening during a
tumultuous period of the solarsystem, but so it was relatively
calm and especially in the youknow, things kind of settle in

(01:35:47):
and so we do get stuff thatswings back around.
I mean there's a whole fuckingasteroid belt post after Mars.
That stuff collides and thencomes into our orbit.

Josh (01:35:55):
This one comes into our space, We'll see.
You have time to you know,don't panic.
All these scientists are sayingdon't panic, but I mean, if it
does, there's not much shit youcan do about it.

Zach (01:36:03):
I know, and like it's wild , like you said, where it's
going to land.
It's probably going to land inthe middle of fucking nowhere.

Josh (01:36:14):
It'll hit some dude's house.
Well, it'll just make a crater.

Zach (01:36:17):
He said, that's it.

Josh (01:36:18):
It won't do anything.
It'll be loud, I mean, it'll bewild to see, but he's like
you're not going to be anywherenear it.

Zach (01:36:25):
There are some cities that could be in its path of where
it could land.
But I mean, I'm guessing thatit'd be interesting to see.
As time goes on, they'll getmore and more accurate

(01:36:45):
information.
Three, three to five years whenit gets cut, you'll they'll
have.
It'll be all the talk.
I'm gonna go ahead.
Actually, I could probably douh mix, uh, make a bet on this
too.
Uh, right now, um, what's thatwebsite that?
Uh, you pretty much can bet onanything, now I can't uh I don't
know, I can't remember the nameof it, but uh, yes, there's a
website where you can bet on it.

Josh (01:36:58):
So you bet on the asteroid , they bet on the presidential
election and the inauguration.
Okay.

Zach (01:37:03):
You can bet on fucking anything that it won't hit.
Eventually they're going tocome out and be like it's now a
0% chance.

Josh (01:37:12):
The guy actually did say that could happen.
He said it very well couldchange.
That's my guess.
Yeah.

Zach (01:37:18):
That would be my guess.

Josh (01:37:19):
I don't, I mean not really shit I can do about it anyway.

Zach (01:37:22):
Yeah right, Just hit that bitch with a rail, rail cannon.
Yeah, you see that movie.
It's politically charged movie,it's basically about climate
change and but it's actually, ifyou try not to read too much
into it, like I did, and youjust kind of enjoy it for being
fucked up and crazy and kind ofinfuriating on how stupid

(01:37:43):
everybody is, don't look up, ofcourse.
I've seen it.

Josh (01:37:47):
I saw it the week it came out.
It's amazing.

Zach (01:37:49):
And you're watching it and you're just like I hate this
movie and I love this movie.

Josh (01:37:53):
It's a weird movie.
It's a train wreck in the bestway.
Yes, movie.

Zach (01:37:59):
It's a train wreck.
Yes, the best way.
Yes, it's wild.
At the very end, when everybodystill I think my, still my
favorite part of that wholemovie is at the very, very end,
whenever the you know elon muskcharacter who's like super
genius and makes rockets, I meanit's a little too the movie's a
little too on the nose yeah,yeah, that's the reason why it's
.

Josh (01:38:13):
That's the reason it's actually a bad movie.

Zach (01:38:15):
Uh, because it's adam mckay and adam mckay he makes
you know he made like uh,talladega nights and like
anchorman, all that kind of youknow, you know I'm saying like
he's a, he should be a comedyguy.
He's now gotten into like thepolitical arena and he makes
like political kind of comediesor whatever.
He's a little too on the nose,it's a little too much.
He needs to shut, everybody gotkilled.
He needs to shut the fuck offthe rocket by those bird fucking

(01:38:38):
things and they're all nakedand they're all old and fat and
gross and it's a bunch of oldpoliticians and power brokers
and billionaires and they're allnaked for some reason is when
they get on this, back on thisplanet, and they're like, oh yay
, and they're like the onlysurvivors, a bunch of people
that can't procreate.
Yeah, the worst of the worstthe worst fucking people.
They're the only people ofhumanity that survives, and then
a bunch of like pterodactyl,fucking bird things.

(01:39:01):
Kill them all.

Josh (01:39:02):
It's so funny.
That was a great movie.

Zach (01:39:03):
If you haven't seen it, it's good, it's so good.
But speaking of that, the finalscene for the Earth is
terrifying.
Yeah, it's not good Fuckingterrifying.
Yeah it is.
We're all sitting at the dinnertable and the whole earth is
shaking because it just got hitby a big rock.

Josh (01:39:20):
Yeah, but that was a huge one.
Yeah, I mean, take the movieArmageddon that was one the size
of Texas.

Zach (01:39:26):
Yes.

Josh (01:39:29):
There's bad ones.
This one will not be like that,but there is bad ones.

Zach (01:39:33):
I just thought of a good thing that we could do, maybe
for an episode.
Is you ever notice thephenomenon?
It's not really a phenomenon,because all of these studios are
aware of what each project isgoing on, but there's always
like at least two of the samemovie that come out at the same
time.

Josh (01:39:51):
Yes.

Zach (01:39:52):
You know you mentioned Armageddon.

Josh (01:39:56):
Yep Deep Impact.

Zach (01:39:58):
Same fucking movie Right Yep Deep Impact.
Same fucking movie Right?

Josh (01:40:01):
Yep, it's because Comic and Asteroid.

Zach (01:40:02):
Because these studios, someone's shopping, someone
shops around the movie idea forArmageddon or Deep Impact.
One of the two.
And another studio is likethat's a great idea, we're going
to make our own movie, we'regoing to try to release it
before they do.
And they go and find a fuckingscript.
And they find whatever.
The bunch of scripts of thesame thing gets floated around.
So a studio picks one up, ittests, well, they're like

(01:40:24):
they're making it, they've got abig name actor to get a bunch
of money behind it.
The other studios like fuck, wegot to get on this action.
They do the same goddamn thingbut change little things.
And change little thingsbecause it's a different script.
They don't have the rights toarm again, they have the rights
to deep impact, yeah.
And then they make the samefucking move and they come out
six months apart and then theydid another one greenland,
greenland, another disaster,asteroid comet.

Josh (01:40:46):
Right, it's the same fucking movie that day after
tomorrow greenland 2012 geostorm.

Zach (01:40:51):
Like all, they're all the same fucking movie same movie.
You know what I mean?
Yep, um, so I was, I.
So I was thinking maybe wecould dive into our repertoire
and come up with a list of ourfavorite.
I don't know what you'd call ittwin movies.

Josh (01:41:09):
We can do that.
You know what I'm saying Forsure.

Zach (01:41:11):
Yeah, I can make that list .
Another one I was thinking isWhite House Down and Olympus has
Fallen.

Josh (01:41:18):
Yep.

Zach (01:41:22):
Same fucking movie.
Yeah, one has channing, tatumand um, uh, who's the president.

Josh (01:41:26):
Jamie foxx is the president right.

Zach (01:41:28):
So it was definitely the lesser of the two right because
they didn't have a sequel oranything like that, but the
other ones did, you know thoseare good though gerard butler
and also it was a little morerated r like gerard, but was
saying you know, like reallyfucking killing some people and
saying fuck and everything, um,so it was definitely the better
movie, um, and also it was thebest president of all time.
Morgan freeman, it really was.

(01:41:50):
It was god, it was right, godhe's god plus president, he's
just.
He's the best president we'veever had?

Josh (01:41:56):
yeah, we'll do that.
When do that?
We'll have to do one of those,for sure.

Zach (01:42:00):
Wasn't he also the president in Deep Impact?
Yes, he was, yeah, dude, so I'msaying how many times has
Morgan Freeman been thepresident?

Josh (01:42:08):
Not enough, not enough, right, oh shit.

Zach (01:42:14):
But anyway, I just thought about that.
I was like that might be a funlittle thing to do.

Josh (01:42:18):
Well, I guess we probably should sign off.

Zach (01:42:19):
We're.
We always sit around one hourhour and a half hour, 40.

Josh (01:42:23):
I think that's good right now.
Let's keep it under two.
Yeah, we'll do the curfew thing.
We'll keep it like keep, follow, subscribe, share.
I'm going to try to get alittle more Comment.
We want comments.
Yeah, please comment or messageus too.

(01:42:44):
Let us know if there's topicsor anything.
As well, you can find us onSpotify.

Zach (01:42:49):
We're actually on every platform.
We have a secret producer, bythe way, scott.
He likes to send me stuff onInstagram and be like this would
be a really good topic on thepodcast.
That's right, I'm like cool man.

Josh (01:43:02):
Tell him to send it to me.

Zach (01:43:04):
I never.

Josh (01:43:05):
Dude, you're sandbagging him.

Zach (01:43:06):
Sandbagging him a little bit.

Josh (01:43:07):
Okay.

Zach (01:43:08):
I don't know.
I don't know when he sendssomething.

Josh (01:43:11):
I'm just like yeah, sure, Scott, if you're listening to
this, send it to me.

Zach (01:43:14):
Send it to him, but don't tell you, don't tell me that he
sent it to you it's just goingto make me not want to do it, I
know.

Josh (01:43:24):
Send it to me.
I don't ignore you.
Send it to me and we'll do that.
Don't be a dick.
He's such a nice guy.
Don't be a dick, yeah.
And then also, if it's aboutflip-flops, I'm not.
You're such a nice guy.

Zach (01:43:38):
Don't be a dick, yeah.

Josh (01:43:39):
And then also, you know, if it's about flip flops, I'm
not talking about it First,one's free.
First one's always free.
Yeah, dude, cool.
Well, we'll see you next week.
All right, dude?
Peace.
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