#73 - The Magic Mirror Must Have Been Gay - The Infinite Weekend Podcast

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Zach (00:01):
All right.
Episode 73, infinite WeekendPodcast.
Zach here, josh over there, yo.

Josh (00:08):
What's happening y'all?
Another week has gone by.

Zach (00:11):
Pretty much, you know, to try something a little different
this time around.
We may make this like a staple,yeah, a recurring thing at the
beginning, at the top of thepodcast.
But basically I mean you guysknow we we consume a lot of
media of different sorts and sowe figured we'd just let you

(00:32):
know what we watched this weekand we're going to just kind of
pick out maybe throw one thing,one thing we like, maybe throw a
recommendation, maybe throw arecommendation, maybe.
or let us know, We'll let youknow what we don't think is
great and take it or leave it.
Yeah, pretty much.
Um, I know something that, uh,I guess I don't know.
We didn't really talk to startoff.
I'll start off yeah, go ahead,I'll be right yeah, um, this is

(00:56):
something that you told me thatyou watched already, and so I
ended up getting to watch itthis week, and I'm going to
start off with my thing I didn'tlike, okay, um, of course, you
know, you know I watched a lotof stuff, right, but I had to
pick something I didn't like.
Generally, I don't pick things.
I don't think I'll like youknow what I'm saying.
But I ended up not really likingit, so it's going to be my
thing that I didn't like thisweek.

(01:17):
Okay, the electric state.

Josh (01:20):
Didn't like it.
I got to be honest, I didn'tthink you would.
Yeah, I suggested it because Iknew you'd like analyze it and
then let me know.
But after I watched I was likeI don't think it's his thing,
but I'm going to tell him tocheck it out anyways.

Zach (01:32):
It's on Netflix, you know Chris Pratt, millie, bobby Brown
, and it's kind of set in the90s.
It's kind of an alternatehistory to where you know, kind
of like throwback retro stylerobots have kind of evolved to,
to, to that point.

Josh (01:49):
Yeah, it's based off a short story from 2018.

Zach (01:51):
There was a, there was a, a war.
They got sent in and rose upand there was a war and they
ended up losing, getting exiledto this, basically the, the
Midwest, like Vegas, lookingareas where it looked like like
utah or some shit and um, uh,you know, then I'm not going to
give away the story, but, like,I mean, that's, that's the basic

(02:12):
that's what it is, that's thesetting, that's the synapse for
it um and uh.
My general dislike for it was uh, first.
First of all, it was rushed.
Even though it was a two-hourmovie.
The plot just fucking,especially the beginning, didn't
really take enough time andenough care, I think, to set up
the world and then just droppedyou into it.
There was like no characterdevelopment whatsoever.

(02:34):
Motivations for some of thecharacters didn't make no sense,
like Chris Pratt's character.
Like Chris Pratt and MillieBobby Brown had a decent
chemistry, I guess.
Yeah.
But I think their cast, thedialogue and the plot itself did
not lend to developing out thatchemistry between the two.

(02:55):
Correct, you see what I'msaying?

Josh (02:57):
Yeah it should have been or they just kind of.

Zach (03:00):
You know, everybody's motivation is like changing on a
dime, and I hate that where youdon't get to actually
understand or see why acharacter changes mind or why
they all of a sudden turn good,you know what I'm saying.

Josh (03:12):
I think it should have been a television series.
You could have stretched out.

Zach (03:15):
You could have fleshed it out.

Josh (03:16):
You could have fleshed out and then kind of figure out,
establish why we like thisperson, why we dislike this
person.
The story's a little muddy.
The only interaction you got inthe beginning.
You know not to give it a.
I don't want to give too muchaway, but Chris Pratt's
character you get briefly duringlike a you know a newscast and
you're like that guy sounds likean idiot.
Like there's the way that wasportrayed, and then, of course,
hers flashes out a little morein the beginning.

(03:37):
But yeah, award-winning movieby any means.
It's a it's it's fun the cg'sreally crisp.
There's some voiceover actingfor the yeah robot characters.

Zach (03:47):
That's really good well, actually, I just there are some
things that I'm going to mentionthat I don't like about that.
We'll give away spoilers.
So I don't give a fuck aboutspoilers, really.
Um is uh the, the whole premiseof the, the bad guy's
motivation, right?
Is he's like a uh Jobs, steveJobs was evil, basically Kind of
sort of Type.

(04:08):
I mean, he had the whole, hehad the turtleneck.
For fuck's sake.

Josh (04:10):
But I don't know, but you don't know why he's.

Zach (04:12):
I never understood why he was Well.
I also think that they weretrying to anytime.
I watch something now and fuckliberal Hollywood for doing this
to me.
But now I look, I watcheverything with like a side eye.
Yeah, like I'm just waiting forit.
I'm like what are you reallytrying to tell me here?
That's correct.
I mean what is?
what's the message behind whatyou're doing?

(04:32):
Where's?
this narrative, and there couldbe many different ways to
interpret the same thing, right,but I'm I'm always going to
give it the most uncharitabledescription or analysis because

(04:53):
of who I know.
That makes these things.
Not that I say I want it to beovertly MAGA or fucking whatever
, but just don't be stupid.
So I'm watching this thingunfold and I'm like are they
trying to tell me that, likeimmigrants are, are all good and
all the bad, you know?
Are they making a, making areference to Elon Musk here?
Like what are they doing?

(05:13):
Yeah, you know what I mean, Idon't know.
Here's the thing, though.
Is that move?
This movie was made, you know?
I don't know, it's not like itlast week, so maybe it wasn't,
but I don't know.
I always get this sense thatthey're trying to sneak in some
messaging when Chris Pratt'sthere usually, I kind of hope
that's political and reflectsour world, not just general
thematic.

Josh (05:33):
I kind of hope when I see Chris Pratt in something that
it's going to be.

Zach (05:36):
He reads the script.

Josh (05:37):
I kind of think that I do too.
I like her, I think she doesgreat.
I don't think it's their, Idon't think they were the
problem.
I think it's just the movie ingeneral.
It's the script.
The story's been told a milliontimes Robots, self-aware.
We don't want to be mistreated.
We're tired of doing yourbullshit work that you don't
want to do.

Zach (05:52):
Yeah.
It's the same that you could seefrom a mile away.
So I knew I had a feeling thatwhenever the robot showed up,
the little kid's cartoon robotthat showed up, astro Boy or
whatever- yeah, that was justthe character from the TV show.
When he showed up and hestarted you know he started I

(06:13):
must have like looked away at myphone or something.
But I just at some point I waslike oh, she just like accepts
this, like immediately.

Josh (06:20):
Well, because she finds out who he is.
Like that's part of the story.

Zach (06:24):
I get what I'm saying, though.
It's like this robot breaksinto her house, correct?
Yeah, scares the shit out ofher, lifts the fucking bed up
she's scared shitless, yep, andthen boom on a fucking dime.
He does like one thing and itit's not.
She doesn't question.

Josh (06:40):
It is what I'm saying no and I she accepts it way too
quick that it doesn't make senseto me.
She accepted it quick and Ionly my only bank on it.
When I thought that was likemaybe it's because it's the
cartoon her brother was obsessedwith yeah, but my.
So there was a little.

Zach (06:53):
But the thing that Familiar.
Maybe she thought he was dead,though, yeah, I know.
So my Like someone would havedone that.
She would have been upset Likewhere did you hear that?
Where'd you see that?
Where'd you, you know, thinkingit was somebody doing something
, or you would have something, Idon't know.
I know what I'm saying.

Josh (07:09):
That part was she immediately assumed it was her
dead brother.
It was so quick.
And then it, finally you've shefigures it out, like he finally
where you're, like she's justhelping this thing out and I
don't know that part.

Zach (07:25):
it's muddy.

Josh (07:26):
It's a muddy story.

Zach (07:27):
I didn't like that part.
And then the main motivation,or the master plan or the
technology or whatever that thevillain ends up developing was.
This just doesn't make sense tome.
The whole movie is absurdanyway, but it has to make sense
.
Things have to make sensewithin the world that you've

(07:48):
created, right?

Josh (07:50):
Yeah.

Zach (07:50):
And it just doesn't make sense because of all the things
they've got, like you know, mrPeanut, and you know a bunch of
like uh for advertising andstuff advertising robot, a bunch
of stuff running around.
So obviously it's absurd.
And they become sentientsomehow, even though they're
like like general maintenancebots, like how they don't,
they're not ai.
So it's like how do they becomesentient?
right, and there's no, theydon't explain that at all none

(08:11):
of that um so you're justsupposed to assume they went
rogue yeah, you're supposed tojust like oh okay, a a robot
that just cuts hair and it's inthe shape of a fucking chair,
becomes sentient.
Right, like, like why.
You know what I mean.

Josh (08:27):
How did something that low-tech become sentient?
Well, most of them are stilldumb.
They're mostly dumb right thatone only says a few words.
There's only a couple that areRight, like the guy who runs the
burger place.

Zach (08:36):
Yes.

Josh (08:38):
The male lady Like.

Zach (08:39):
there's a few that are smarter than the others Because
they had to maybe interact withhumans or do speech or whatever.

Josh (08:44):
But the peanut guy was like, which was Woody Harrelson?
I'm pretty sure it was Woody.

Zach (08:48):
Harrelson, yeah, I can detect his voice from a mile
away.
But anyway, put that aside.
The villain's master plan wasthat this kid, who's a super
genius, he's like the nextEinstein or whatever.
They don't really explain likeI guess they touch on that he

(09:11):
may be the new Einstein orwhatever.
They don't really explain, likewhy he's that special.
So he gets in a car accident,he's in a coma.
They, you know, fake his death,essentially tell everybody that
he's dead.
Both their parents die, I guessin the car crash, and they
whisk him away to First of all.
I don't know how they discoveredthis necessarily, but the plan

(09:33):
was to put the kid into amachine and then run this
virtual world through his brainfor it to function correctly.
He was like the bridge, thatgap between that they needed, I
don't the tech.
The technology and theexplanation of it made no
fucking sense to me.
It was silly, it was kind of athrowaway, it was just, it was
way too absurd I haven't checkedthe source material it was done

(09:56):
better in the book, in theshort, so I don't know I have
looked that up, but it was.
It was dumb.
I didn't like it.
I was like this is, this isvery stupid.
Yeah, um, so you know, themovie just lost it.
For me, the only thing I thinkwas cool, uh, that I did like
was and it's the only one thatmade sense was anthony mackie's

(10:18):
character, the robot herman the.
He was the.
It was anthony.
I'm pretty sure that wasanthony I know that was anthony
mackie.
I didn't know that and, uh, that, uh, he was the construction
bot and he looked like somethingyou would design to be a
construction bot or any kind ofbot.
You know what I'm saying?
It looked better.
Let me pull that stuff helooked better.

Josh (10:39):
I wanted to see a movie with more things like that thing
well, you could do one withouthumans, oh yeah, but yeah,
you're right, I mean, I mean,and he had the different
versions where he was really bigand then he was really really
big and then he was really tinyat the end.
What was his name?
Herman Martin Kleba.

Zach (10:58):
Martin Kleba.
I thought there was an AnthonyMackie character in there.

Josh (11:02):
No, it wasn't.
Yes, was an Anthony Mackiecharacter in there?
No, it wasn't.

Zach (11:06):
Yes, it was.
This is straight from the cast.
I swear to God.
Anthony Mackie was on thecredits.
I'm looking.

Josh (11:08):
I'm looking yeah, oh, okay .
Yeah, he played the voice, butthat little dude played the
actual bot.

Zach (11:15):
Oh well, yeah, my bad, my bad.

Josh (11:17):
Well, there's cast, and I didn't think there was people in
those roles.
I thought that was all CG.
I don't know why he's.
Maybe they had some, maybe itwas probably the motion capture
suit.
That's probably what it wasOkay yeah, anthony Mackie is
Herman.

Zach (11:28):
I didn't catch that, yeah, yeah.

Josh (11:30):
Woody Harrelson, jenny Slate.

Zach (11:31):
Brian Cox.
Jenny Slate was the male chick.
Let's see Brian Cox was he wasMr Peanut.

Josh (11:37):
Rob.

Zach (11:42):
Mr.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Yeah, brian Cox was easy torecognize because I'd watched
that show, succession, and sohe's got a very distinct voice.

Josh (11:51):
Yes, yes, of course I forgot his name.
Yep, okay, so good, voice castfor sure.

Zach (11:58):
Also, here's the other thing that made no sense to me.
The final battle is where theyfought all of these, um, you
know, human controlled robots.
That's where people, thetechnology is that they put on
this like vr, like headset, andit splits their brain to where
half of it, can you know, dobullshit like be on the beach or

(12:18):
whatever exactly, and dowhatever you want and the other
half can control this.
You know, sentient or notsentient, this automatron, that
where you can move around andengage in the world and work and
all those kinds of things anddo your job so you can make
money and all this kind of stuff.
First of all, that made no sense.
That was.
I didn't like that.
That's not how brains work.
And then, two, the war brokeout between the humans and

(12:42):
robots.
Humans were losing, yeah.
And then because of this kid,this super genius, and they
stick him in the machine and hebecomes like the missing cog in
this master plan to whereeverybody who puts on those VR
headsets can actually function.
One of the you know the robotsand simultaneously exists in
this like dream world orwhatever.

(13:03):
You know much like ready player.
One kind of thing the robotsand simultaneously exists in
this like dream world orwhatever.
Um, you know much like readyplayer one kind of thing or it
kind of reminds me of that movie.
Um uh surrogates with BruceWillis.

Josh (13:14):
You know what I'm talking about.

Zach (13:15):
It's kind of like that Um pretty much that vibe, uh, and
it had a whole you know retronineties look to it.
So everything was like kind ofbulky and big and it wasn't.
You know, it wasn't very hightech looking, but they do this
and they end up because of thisthat they were able to repel the
robots Right that have becomesentient.

(13:36):
Okay.

Josh (13:36):
And this is within a couple days, and apparently
within a like immediately.
Yes, it started winning, likethey just whooped their ass.
They're not.
These weren't military bots.
Right they were like theCoca-Cola guy, the mailman,
Right they were likeadvertisements or service bots
or whatever.

Zach (13:50):
A magician, exactly.
But they were humans, werelosing, because at least the
robots are made of metal andthey can probably hit harder.
They don't have to sleep andhumans were losing until this
tech got figured out.
And then the final battle ofthe movie and those robots,
those same ones got their asseshanded to them by the same

(14:13):
robots that they had, you know,basically wiped out.
You know however many you know,20 years later, when they're
all rusted and shitty.
Yeah, and I'm just that took, Iwas like it took me out.

Josh (14:26):
It's muddy.

Zach (14:28):
Your script's not making any sense.
I gave it like a five and ahalf.

Josh (14:31):
Yeah, five is fine.

Zach (14:32):
Five is fine.
It had good special effects.

Josh (14:34):
Chris Pratt's flick was funny.
Go into it just knowing thatit's not a blockbuster flick.
The directors, the Russobrothers, have done incredible
films.
Directors and the russobrothers have done incredible
films.
That's why I was kind ofshocked, yeah, but like you, I
think you said it best in thebeginning it's it's very rushed
the, the russo brothers for me.

Zach (14:48):
I was thinking about this the other day because when I saw
that I was like okay, then thatmakes sense for them.
Um, and they also did this show, uh, called um citadel.
Okay, it's on um amazon andit's got um the, the king in the
north.
I can't remember his name KitHarington, no other dude.
The first one, the first kingof the north.
Oh, fuck it was Robb Stark, butI can't remember the name of

(15:11):
the actor.
Let me look.
Let me pull it up.
It's going to drive me.
Pull it up.

Josh (15:17):
Pull it up.
Pull it up.
What was his king?
He wasn't a king.
He wasn't a king, he was Lord.

Zach (15:24):
No, he was, yeah, lord Stark.
Yeah, in season two he was kingon the north, that unstuck Sean
Bean.
No, not the his son, robb Stark.
Oh, you know what Pretty boy?
Yeah, yeah, Robb.

Josh (15:37):
Fuck man, we're going through the whole family tree
here.
I don't know his name from.
I don't know that.
Dude, I got it.
Hold on, I got it.

Zach (15:45):
Richard Madden.
Yeah, richard Madden.
Thanks, richard, I appreciateit Sorry, there, dick.
Madden, yeah.
And then the Indian chickthat's married to Joe Jonas, or
whatever the fuck oh whateverher name is, she's really hot
yeah, what is her name?
Let's look it up, we have theknow.

(16:10):
Anyway, joe jonas hot wife.
Yeah, all right, let me putthat in.
It's not sophie turner, it issophie turner, that's not the
indian.
No, not, not.
Uh, not joe jonas, she's hottoo um the other jonas this is
the buffer one yeah it's not.

Josh (16:20):
What is it?
Joe jonas, and let's look Nick,nick Jonas.

Zach (16:24):
I just read that.
This is important though.
Right, we got to get thesedetails right.
Yeah, I'm going to get a fax,right I got this new phone.

Josh (16:32):
You think it'd be fast, but I can't type where that shit
Nick Jonas wife.
I can't pronounce that.

Zach (16:38):
Show it to me, maybe you can.
Oh, priyanka Chopra.

Josh (16:41):
Yeah, thank you.
Pc for short.

Zach (16:44):
Yeah, yeah, right, right, or Pri Pri.

Josh (16:46):
I like that Pri Chopra.

Zach (16:48):
Okay, that's what it is.
Yeah, so anyway it's RichardMadden and Priyanka Chopra, or,
I guess, priyanka Jonas.

Josh (16:56):
Well, I think they hyphenated.

Zach (16:57):
I don't know what the fuck they do in Hollywood, chopra
Jonas yeah, whatever, jonas,anyway they're in this show
called Citadel and it's aboutlike these secret agents and
it's, you know they, there's adouble cross and then they gotta
get to the bottom of it andit's very highly stylized kind
of thing and it's, it's soungrounded from reality.

(17:19):
It's like the Russo brothershad spent too much time making.
It's like they made 20 avengersmovies and they didn't know how
to make anything else.
Good, it should have juststopped, and right, I agree sir
so because most of the thingsthat I've watched of theirs post
and, like avenger, I don'tthink they're that great.
I'm just gonna say that I don'tthink the russo brothers are
that great of a director.
It's it's the reason why wethink that we like them is

(17:41):
because of what they of avengersof course, affinity war in the
end game.

Josh (17:46):
That's the reason I don't know them.

Zach (17:46):
For anything else I see I've seen some of their other
stuff and it's always like okaythat's what electric said I'm
like okay, that's fine.
I you know, I basicallyentertain, entertain air quote
entertain myself for two hours.
I'm never gonna watch it again.
No, I don't care anything aboutit.

Josh (18:06):
No, it's forgettable, I'll forget about it and I also
watched it too, and I told youto watch it because the audience
score was better than thecritic score.
Yeah, so I like to always gofor that first, because I'm like
fuck critics, I'm going intothis yeah, generally yeah
because anytime there's a filmwhere it's like critics loved it
and the audience hated it, thethe movie sucked.

Zach (18:22):
I think someone came up with like a rule for rotten
tomatoes.
It's something to go, somethinglike if the audience score is
really high but the and thecritic score is really low, like
low under 30, like really low,it's probably a good movie.
Okay, right, if it's.
If the, if the audience scoreand the critic score are pretty
close together, but the audiencescore is better than the critic

(18:44):
score, right, it's probably abad movie.

Josh (18:47):
Yeah.

Zach (18:48):
Yeah Right, it's the general kind of thing you look
at.
If the critics absolutely lovedit but the audiences hated it,
like it's completely inverse,like critics give it a
90-something and audiences giveit less than 20, it's probably a
shit-ass movie.
It's probably a terriblefucking movie.
It's probably boring.
It's probably just Oscar baitkind of shit.

Josh (19:08):
That's what I was looking at.

Zach (19:10):
But if they're a little bit closer and the critics liked
it better than the audience,then that's also.
That is a 50-50 movie.
It could be good, it could bebad.
I've heard someone explain itthat way and I's that's.
I've heard someone explain itthat way and I think that's
pretty accurate.
So when you're I would agreewhen you're reading those- those
rotten tomato reviews.

Josh (19:29):
Keep that in mind.
I go to if you ever want a good, if you don't want to go like
to a big time movie review, ifyou go to rotten tomatoes, which
I use that site a lot.
Um, I always go to not topchoices, but like people like us
, and of course people aresmarter than that field, but
they always give like.
I always go for somethingthat's like an average viewer
that's just watching it.

(19:50):
Give me Timmy straight.
I don't need to know if it's,you know, oscar worthy.

Zach (19:53):
The better thing to do is like is find some writers that
you like where you've read theirstuff screen reviews and
specific individuals, or maybeif there's enough people in a
particular organization wherethey're pretty spot on.
But I mean, sometimes evenScreen Rant will do some stuff
where I'm like I don't agreewith that.
But it all depends on who'swriting the article in Screen

(20:14):
Rant, right?
It's not always just one person, right?
Or it's usually a gaggle ofthem, and they could be, you
know, hired and fired and goingfrom different places, like
maybe someone from screen rentgot hired and they actually came
over from you know, I don'tknow.

Josh (20:27):
Comic bookcom, one of those, whatever, some shitty one
.

Zach (20:31):
You never know, but I try to find.
I try to find ones that I seemore often.
I'm like, oh, I like he.
He was pretty spot on with howI felt about the movie, so I
would kind of follow him andI'll usually read just the, the
title and the tagline and get anidea, Cause I don't like to
read too deep into it and getspoilered.

Josh (20:50):
Yeah, that's why I always try to go to I try to just get
the top.

Zach (20:53):
You know what, what the sense of the movie was from his,
that person's perspective, andthen that gives me a good idea
if it's going to be good or not,cause I mean good or not
because I mean, you know, likeyou look I'm, you know we're all
busy and you know I don't wantto waste my time on correct
stuff.
That's terrible.
So I try to give those reviewsa little grain of salt, but
they're necessary, you know,because I don't want to waste my

(21:14):
time with some crap I've got.
I've checked out quite a bitthis week but I don't know if
you've seen the same ones I havemy good thing is and we guess
we're're going to talk aboutthat before we move on to yours
was a severance season finale.

Josh (21:28):
That was the best thing I watched this week.
That show is season two finale.

Zach (21:31):
That was awesome.
I love that show which we'regoing to dive into that one, but
so later.
But if you want to do your,yeah, yeah.

Josh (21:39):
So I guess I guess a good, a good thing I watched, besides
Severance.
I started shrinking on Apple.
Tv okay, two episodes in, Igive it like an eight and a half
.
I heard it's funny it's good,it's really good dark humor like
situationally funny.
Yes, it's got Harrison Ford andJason.

Zach (22:01):
Segel.

Josh (22:01):
Jason Segel.
Thank you, those two are kindof your, take the take the spear
of it, jason Segel.
Jason Segel, thank you, thosetwo are kind of your, take the
take the spear of it, jasonSegel, which I he's hit or miss
for me you know, he kind of hekind of.
He just kind of saddens mesometimes when I watch him, like
I just he's always seems to bethe character that just always
gets the shaft, whatever thesituation is, but in this one
he's really.

Zach (22:20):
I like him in.
He'll always be funny to me.
He's always going to be upthere top tier for me because of
Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
This is 40.
And I love you, man.

Josh (22:31):
Oh, fuck, I forgot.
And this is 40.
And this is 40.

Zach (22:34):
He's really good, he's a trainer.

Josh (22:36):
He has a.
Really I like his style ofcomedy and the way he delivers.
But in this one I'll give youjust a brief, quick thing.
I won't give anything away.
He is a grieving therapist.
His wife passes away.
He's grieving for like the lastyear and he's kind of like a
little bit at the end of hisrope not suicidal, but just kind
of fucking, just fucked Okay.
And he's got a daughter in highschool which he's disconnected

(23:01):
from because You're like how thefuck is this dude going to give
anybody therapy?

Zach (23:04):
So it's like that.
What's that show with RickyGervais?
Oh, After.

Josh (23:09):
Afterlife.
Yeah so that's a littledifferent.
It's kind of just a grievingman.

Zach (23:16):
Instead of a therapist, he's a journalist.

Josh (23:19):
Yeah, so it's a little different comedy, but they're
very yeah, I'd say, brother andsister type thing.
It's good.
I would recommend anyonechecking that out.
It's a really good show.
I'm only two in, but it's good.
It's good for me becauseSeverance has come to an end so
I have to get into somethingelse.
So I think Shrinking is whereI'm going to take point.

Zach (23:36):
I'm looking forward to that because he's weird.

Josh (23:46):
He weird dude.
He's a weird.
He was weird, and for a longtime, when he first started,
even in star wars.
If you watch old interviews andold like set videos, that's a
weird cat dude.
I know he was banging carriefisher, though back.

Zach (23:53):
Yeah, yeah, he, harrison ford comes across to me as he's
been, uh, you know, 78 years oldfor a long time he's like a, a
senile old man.

Josh (24:03):
Yes, and he's been that way forever.

Zach (24:06):
In this one, though, he's solid.
He doesn't care about like kindof the Hollywood glitz kind of
thing.
He doesn't give a shit.
Yeah, uh, you know he doesn't.
He doesn't want to play yourfucking little games.
It's his kind of demeanor.
He's the boss like the caringso sarcastically dry.

Josh (24:22):
That's how he is in this, but it's perfect.
Yeah, he does a great job.
I like this is I've actuallyprobably the last 10 years is
the best thing I've seen him do.

Zach (24:30):
Okay, In my opinion, I I've you know he'll always be
Han Solo, I don't care what hesays, and, of course, people get
upset a little bit, yeah, butyou know he's just doing it
because it's not his bag, but heI think he does he understands
the the weight of that, of thatfranchise fans are crazy and
that it launched his career andall this.

(24:51):
Like I think he gets all that,but he just kind of like
dismisses those, like whenpeople ask like questions about
like the world, he's like yeah,he's like I don't fucking know.
He's basically kind ofbasically in his own way he
doesn't say this, but he'sbasically you can see it in his
mind.
He's like I don't fucking know.
Dude, that was like from 77 or78.
Fuck off man, Fuck in the 70sand you're talking about like

(25:13):
laser swords and spaceships,Like that ain't even my thing,
I'm just an actor.

Josh (25:17):
Dude, chill, the fuck out they're asking me about.

Zach (25:21):
You know, oh, what the?
What do you think the?
The atmosphere was like anolder enemy, like I don't
fucking know I mean.

Josh (25:26):
that's a good answer, though, Like.

Zach (25:27):
I don't know.
It's not real.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, dude, that's a it's acrazy fan base.
Was that did you already?
What did you watch that you did?

Josh (25:45):
not like.
I got a couple things Hit mewith them, so tell me if you've
seen these.
Gladiator 2?
Yeah, kraven.

Zach (25:52):
Did not see Kraven yet.
Fuck, I picked Electric Stateover Kraven to watch this week.
Actually, that's the reason Ipicked Electric State, because I
figured Craven would be worse.

Josh (26:03):
I'll save Craven because I want you to watch it, because
it's shitty.

Zach (26:07):
Okay.

Josh (26:07):
I'll talk about Gladiator too.
I like Aaron.

Zach (26:10):
Taylor.

Josh (26:10):
Johnson, have you seen Wicked?

Zach (26:12):
No, I don't want to watch that.
I watch Wicked.
I know it's supposed to be goodif you're into musicals.

Josh (26:18):
I'll talk about that.

Zach (26:19):
I do generally like musicals, but kind of I'll talk
about that one I don't likeCynthia Erivo, let me get into
it.
Or Ariana Grande.

Josh (26:27):
I just finished this today .
I just finished this movietoday it's fresh.

Zach (26:32):
Hit me with it.
It's fresh.
Is this what you didn't like?
One of the ones you didn't likethis is what I did not like.
Okay, hit me, I don't even haveto watch.

Josh (26:40):
I love Wizard of Oz, anything in that realm.

Zach (26:43):
I love that stuff.

Josh (26:45):
Always have.
I know a little bit aboutWicked from its production on
Broadway.
I dated a girl that was reallyinto it.

Zach (26:51):
Have you ever seen it?
I've seen bits and clips.
I've never gone and watched it.

Josh (26:55):
I've heard it's an awesome show.
You've seen a film?
Correct, yes, sir.
So I know what's going on Sureand unfortunately, and going on
sure and unfortunately, and youknow how it is too.
We just you kind of played onit.
You kind of go into thingsalready, like in your mind it's
going to be fucking woke,there's going to be some weird
ass shit in this I've seeninterviews with ariana and the

(27:16):
lady who plays cynthia reba yeah, I've seen, so I'll go ahead
and state the they are bothtalented singers.
They both sound great, the songsare catchy, all that.
The things I don't like isthere's a lot of like.
There's dudes in skirts,there's dudes in makeup, there's
like gay stuff everywhere.

Zach (27:33):
It's very like yeah, it's fucking wicked yeah, like it's,
and that's fine they don't, itdoesn't take point of the story
it doesn't sure it doesn't

Josh (27:40):
spearhead any and that's fine.
I don't care.
You want to do your thing, doyour thing.
I don't give a fuck, but it'sme.
If you like musicals, it's okay, I don't yeah, it's not really
my thing.
She sings really great.
Like first half is okay, theydo all the story building.
You kind of feel it.
And it's part one comes out inNovember of this year and then

(28:02):
your second half, like secondact, you kind of figure out, oh
yeah, this dude's a piece ofshit, like the wizard's an
asshole.
It's Jeff Goldblum.
The casting is great.
Jeff Goldblum is cool.
He's just the dude.
He's an asshole piece of shit.
She gets pissed and then, ofcourse, she becomes the witch of
the West, like that whole thingsets.

(28:25):
It's predictable.
You've already seen the stuff.
I don't think it's.
Don't believe the hype.
Harper watched it with mebecause I I did find that it was
kid friendly.
There's nothing in there that Iwould not.
It shouldn't have been oscarnominated.
She only had one instance whereshe asked me like what's up
with that?
And I was able to play it offlike it was a dude excited to
see the handsome prince, and hewas like, oh my god, it's like
anything you need oh, harper waslike, she like.

Zach (28:42):
Why is he acting?

Josh (28:42):
like that, and I was like because he's that handsome, he
makes everybody nervous, honey.
And she was like okay, got it,it was fine.
Whatever, he is a handsome guy.
He's from Bridgerton, he'sgoing to be the new Jurassic
park.
He's a handsome dude.
He plays the part Well there,but it's not.

(29:11):
Don't believe the hype, in myopinion, no.
But you kids can watch it.
It's fun, it's got, but it'slong for kids.
She got towards the end, waskind of bored.

Zach (29:13):
she got bored but the cg is good.
It sets.
I think part two will be better.

Josh (29:15):
I'm ready to see her part two yeah, this is part one yeah,
well, because you want to seeher become evil oh, you don't
get to see her become wicked shejust kind of gets the stepping
stone I got you but, but I mean.

Zach (29:25):
I could have watched it we already saw that.

Josh (29:26):
I know I could have lasted to watch 20 minutes and be fine
with that movie.
It was Mila Kunis.

Zach (29:31):
She turned that movie sucks ass, but we already saw it
.

Josh (29:35):
But that doesn't.

Zach (29:36):
That's a whole this traditionally in the like what
happened that one I think, yeah,but I mean, it's a musical, it
is, it's a stage production,it's a musical.

Josh (29:45):
The dancing's.
There's a lot of dancing.
There's a lot of singing.
There's a, there's a few thingswhere they're not singing and
dancing, but it's heavy, is it?

Zach (29:52):
uh, I think is it.
Maybe I'm making this up, butthere was a controversy to where
the stage production JesusChrist Superstar.

Josh (30:08):
Yeah, I've never seen it.

Zach (30:09):
I haven't either.
Is being cast by like a blackwoman or something.
I think it's Cynthia Erivo.

Josh (30:14):
I don't know, maybe it's somebody else.
You just saw where Snow Whitetanked.

Zach (30:18):
Oh my God, I'm so happy about that.

Josh (30:20):
I knew it would.
Do you know how many differentthings they changed before?

Zach (30:23):
that fucking movie came out.
So it's not just that becauseI'm happy that it tanked,
because for multiple reasons andthe reason why it tanked is not

(30:46):
because of all the I mean itdidn't help that Rachel Ziegler
was out there just spouting abunch of bullshit and Gal Gadot
were basically Instagrammingeach other back and forth in a
way where they were feuding overthe Palestine-Israel thing.
That was just stupid on RachelZiegler's part and Gal Gadot she
actually served in the IDF.

Josh (31:00):
She has more of a stone to step on in that subject, right.

Zach (31:05):
Why would you do that?
This is one of your leads.
Disney should have told both ofthem to shut the fuck up about
this.
Yeah correct, disney lostcontrol of it, but the sign that
the movie was going to be shitwas all the reshoots and the
rewrites and all that.

Josh (31:20):
Well, you and everybody knows too We've talked about it
before Disney is redoing allthese stories, classic stories,
with live action, whatever.
They've all been pretty fuckingterrible.

Zach (31:30):
Yeah, mostly so, and, like you said, there's reshooting
because they were doing this.
Of course, diversity right.
They were trying to change thestory, make it modern.

Josh (31:38):
Yeah, they had the dwarfs, like all different races, all
different.
At least they were people.
It's like okay, whatever, I'mnot shocked by any of this.

Zach (31:46):
Peter Dinklage got butt fart.

Josh (31:48):
I'm very numb by all this at this point.
Well then, they cast it all CG.
You couldn't just hire dwarfs,Like what the fuck it?

Zach (31:56):
looks terrible?
Well, because they so.
Originally that was the idea isthat they.
The reason why they had so manyreshoots is because they did.
Yeah, they had dwarves playingcool, uh, in the seven dwarves
that would look better snowwhite and the seven dwarves.
And then peter dinklage, uh,opened his stupid, fucking
little mouth and uh, and he wascrying about you know, the only

(32:18):
parts that you know littlepeople get to play are dwarves
and I'm like, yeah, it's like uh, there's not a lot of uh movies
out there that call for dwarvesand I'm like, yeah, it's like
uh, there's not a lot of uhmovies out there that call for
dwarves.

Josh (32:28):
Why would that be mad?

Zach (32:29):
You know what I mean.

Josh (32:30):
What he played a dwarf in one of the greatest shows that.
What the fuck are you talkingabout?

Zach (32:33):
He's a little he's a little wokey, uh, and he runs
his mouth that you'll begrateful for fucking having
roles, but whatever, you'reshort with me.
So he's kind of a little turd.
Pun not intended.

Josh (32:52):
Sorry, I don't know why that was so funny, but it
cracked me up and he shot hismouth off.

Zach (32:58):
So the Disney execs were like, oh fuck, we don't want to
offend.
Oh geez, here we go.
They course corrected and thenthey remember that clip came out
, or it was a candid shot thatsomeone took behind the scenes
while they were in productionand the dwarves were just a
bunch of different, likedifferent, like a diverse cast

(33:21):
of people.

Josh (33:21):
Yeah, there was like an Asian.
There was like an Asian woman.

Zach (33:23):
There was like a dude, like a disabled person, and then
you know it's like and it waslike, but no one was a dwarf,
there were no dwarves, they'reall just different disabilities
and races and everything else,and it just made no sense and
people were shitting all over itand of course Disney was like
fuck.
They course corrected again.

Josh (33:41):
And then the only thing they could do at that point was
CG the fucking doors, yeah, andso, and they don't, I don't, I
don't, I don't know what, and ithad a budget of like $258
million.
It made 15.1 this week.
I love it.
It was estimated to make 52, 15.

Zach (33:57):
Yeah.

Josh (33:57):
Get fucked.
Nobody I don't know, Nobodycares.
They're not buying into yourbullshit anymore.

Zach (34:01):
So not only was the dwarves, they just decided they
did have dwarves and they didn'thave dwarves.
And then they made the dwarveseven worse.
Yep, Right, but the casting ofRachel Ziegler is really stupid
because you know it's snow white.
Her skin was as white as snow,you know hair as black as a

(34:22):
raven or whatever you know like,clearly describing a, a type of
person that was all points, andso they uh you know, they ended
up casting a hispanic chick.
Cool, um, makes sense, you know, uh, totally makes sense.

Josh (34:38):
Um, it's what I would do if I was making a movie about
you know well, if you're scaredof the masses, right, everyone's
going to come after you outside, exactly.
And then here's that loud 1% ofpeople.

Zach (34:48):
And then they.
And then you know RachelZiegler, she's not ugly, I'm not
my, not my type.

Josh (34:53):
Not my type.
I'm not really into her lookbut she's a cute girl.

Zach (34:59):
Hold the bottle.
Awful yeah.
So they didn't have to do itlike that.
And even if you look, even whenyou look at the cartoon, that's
not even this hairstyle thatSnow White has.
It made no sense, do you thinkshe do.

Josh (35:10):
You think when you're an actor or actor, when they and
you know like okay, so you knowif you're a personality, hire
right, you know like Spanishchick that was.

Zach (35:21):
Do you know what I mean?
Do you think that bothers them?

Josh (35:23):
They're like it's a badge of honor.

Zach (35:26):
No, I think that they are swimming.
They are so immersed in thatDEI bullshit that it's just
normal to them they don't stickout because everyone's doing it.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
So here's the most absurd thingabout Snow White and the
casting and then doing thedwarves.
Not doing the dwarves, thendoing the dwarves, but worse.

(35:48):
Here's the.
Here's the most absurd thingabout about Snow White.
Now to say that Rachel Ziegleris hotter than Gal Gadot.

Josh (36:01):
No, you're fucking high.

Zach (36:03):
It's so stupid that is that one right there?
I think this's the lesser known, lesser point that people bring
up, but I think it's one of themore obvious points You're like
really.

Josh (36:18):
Yeah, she's not.
Let's go ahead and get this outof the way, the whole premise
of the McGuffin, the plotcguffin, the whole, the, the plot
device.

Zach (36:26):
Yeah, that's happening in this movie.
Is that the evil queen?
Who's the ferris?
The ferris of all of them alllooks into a mirror and the
mirror says you know, mirror,mirror on the wall, who's the
ferris of them all?
And then it's like not you thistime, bitch, there's another,
she's and it's rachel ziggler.

Josh (36:41):
It's like this mirror's fucked up when you take it back.

Zach (36:43):
Cause.
It should have been like uh,you by right.
Like sorry, there's immediatelyI'm out.
You know I'm taking out.

Josh (36:51):
She is absolutely stunning , Cause it makes no sense.
She is stunning.
I don't give a shit if she'spro she's.
She's hot as fuck.

Zach (37:05):
Let.
I haven't seen her in this film.
I remember and I think maybe wemay have watched it together,
but when she played Wonder Woman, we watched that in theaters.
Of course we did.
I remember I think I made acomment to you.
I was like she's too attractive, I can't look at her.
I've gotten used to it now.
But, initially some scenes inWonder Woman, especially
whenever it's a 50 foot.
So it was the part I've gottenused to it.
Now, well, but but initially,like when you, there's some

(37:25):
scenes in wonder woman where,especially whenever it's, like
you know, 50 foot screen orwhatever you're like, she's
right there.

Josh (37:30):
I remember the part where you said it super hot we were,
because we had a moment, like amoment where, just like it's
where she's going back with him,yeah, and she has like on the
fur, yes, and they're in thatboat together and like she's
glowing and both of us were justlike.
I remember you just being likeoh fuck I just turned to you, I
was like she's hot as fuck.
And then where she comes out tothe battlefield, she like

(37:50):
disrobes and she's like yeah, wewere just like.
I can't open my eyes, right sheis absolutely incredible.
I need hot chicks.
Are cool man yeah.

Zach (38:02):
And so that person that gave a lot of men that reaction
yeah, rachel Ziegler ain't doingthat.
For that many dudes, the mirroris bullshit.
I can hear him now.
Yeah, exactly, yeah, I don'tknow, dude, I'm not going to see
it.
The mirror is gay, yeah.
Chicks are.
Yeah, like I don't.

Josh (38:21):
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm not going to see it.
I don't give a shit about it.
I didn't know if we were goingto segue into this, but since
we're now on this wholediversity weird thing.
So you did hear that they'vecasted for this new Harry Potter
show on HBO.

Zach (38:35):
Max, yeah, severus Snape.

Josh (38:38):
Is played by a black actor .
It's mixed.
I got onto the feeds and lookedjust to see, because people are
mean as fuck, People that aresaying, oh, it's fun they're
lying.
They're full of shit.
So I'm a big Harry Potter guy.
I mean, I have Harry Pottertattoos.
I like it.
I do not like the casting.
I think there was a lot betterchoices.

(38:59):
If you're trying to do it forthe fans, I don't know, I don't
want.
In my mind.
As soon as I saw it I was likeyou only did that to fit that
window.
It's all reason you did that.
You didn't do it because he'sgood, you just did it.
They're doing it on purpose tocause to ruffle feathers.
That's, that's I'm.
It's like watching siblingsfight.
I just know.
I just think it's dumb there's.

Zach (39:19):
I think it's dumb, there's no chance in hell.
They like they saw that dude'saudition.
They were like that's the guy.
He wouldn't even made it in thefucking audition room.

Josh (39:27):
No, Adam driver directors.

Zach (39:29):
You know there's a look that you need to.
It's not just how good they canact.
Can they read the lines on thepage?
It's they've got to fit therole If.
I'm bringing it to life ifyou're making this show.
It's the same.
It's the same reason whycasting Robert Downey Jr as Dr
Doom is stupid, because I don't.

(39:49):
The norm like the normies aregoing to look at Dr Doom
whenever he shows up on screenand they're going to see Robert
Downey Jr are going to be likewhy the fuck is Iron man Dr Doom
?

Josh (40:01):
We already said that's what they're going to think.
I know we already said itwhenever.
That's all you're going to see.

Zach (40:05):
And so when you, when you watch Severus Snape show up as a
fucking show, you're going tobe like where's Alan Rickman?
I mean, he's dead, but RIP.
Like everyone's mind is lockedinto this look of Severus.

Josh (40:21):
Snape.
That look of Severus Snape.
That's what I'm saying.
I can't get past it.

Zach (40:24):
I'm saying he's not good.
Some characters you just can'tdo that to.

Josh (40:28):
Everybody was like get Adam Driver to do it.

Zach (40:30):
They already had a guy right, Exactly Adam Driver.

Josh (40:35):
If he was never described in the books and if we'd never
seen already someone portray himon film, I wouldn't know the
fucking difference.
But you've already establishedthe character Exactly, but
you've already established thecharacter Exactly You've.
I mean I don't, you know, I, Idon't understand it.
I saw it and I was like I don'tknow, I have no hope for that.
I'll watch it to bitch about it, but I have no hope for that
show.

Zach (40:55):
I mean you know like, and then for who they cast?
For Dumbledore, it's Let mepull it up.

Josh (41:05):
I got the internet.
I don't know why we don't pullstuff up.

Zach (41:07):
He was in season four of Dexter John Lithgow.

Josh (41:10):
I think it's terrible.

Zach (41:12):
Yeah, but it's an old white dude.
You know what I'm saying whydidn't they cast?
Dumbledore like a short fatlesbian.

Josh (41:21):
They still might.
I don't know, he may end upbeing a tranny.
I have no idea.

Zach (41:26):
Why did they pick this one character to stick out like the
rest?
I'm telling you Like they'redoing it on purpose to piss you
off.

Josh (41:33):
Yes, I just don't understand.

Zach (41:34):
It's for attention, yeah, but it's negative attention.
I really do think.

Josh (41:38):
Exactly right.

Zach (41:45):
I that they have to know now.
Disney has course correctedpost Trump's election, because
that is pretty much the turningpoint to where people, I think,
are realizing that the Wokey DEIkind of stuff is tired and
everybody's over it.
Disney did course correct onsome stuff.
They have already made somechanges, some ongoing projects

(42:08):
where they're getting rid ofsome of the Wokey stuff.
But then this is Amazon, right,amazon's doing the Harry Potter
show no, HBO.

Josh (42:15):
Hbo, that's right.
Max is doing it.

Zach (42:16):
HBO's doing it.
Hbo is owned by fuck.
I think it's also owned byDisney.
I have no idea, max.
I think it is.

Josh (42:24):
They kind of yeah, because apparently big streamers
combined.

Zach (42:26):
Yeah, but I mean, it's a different studio.
So it's not like you knowDisney.
You know, the studios kind ofdo their own thing.
Disney may just own them, butthey're not doing it.
They can't be doing it, forattention.
I'm telling you, they're justso entrenched into it that they

(42:51):
don't care who they piss off.
They're on a moral mission,that they think that they're so
righteous that they can dowhatever they want.

Josh (42:58):
I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I'm trying to make
sure we got information, so Ijust pulled on IMDb the like the
cast for this Harry Potter show.

Zach (43:06):
Did they change it?

Josh (43:06):
Well, it shows Charles Dance as Albus Dumbledore.

Zach (43:10):
Maybe it wasn't John Lithgow.

Josh (43:12):
So Charles Dance would be a good Dumbledore.
That's Tywin Lannister.

Zach (43:15):
What do I think of John Lithgow.

Josh (43:18):
So we got.
So Lenny Henry is playingRubeus Hagward, which is another
yeah so that's, that's hagridyeah, that one still that one,
not as much I.
I still think it's what.
Either way, tom hiddleston, didthey change all?

Zach (43:44):
this maybe is that oh, this is casting ideas.
Fuck off.
Oh yeah, get the fuck out ofhere.
Yeah, okay, yeah, so I'm prettysure it's john lithgow was is
actually got cast asdumbumbledore.
That was the latest.

Josh (43:55):
Well, I'm trying to find where it says it, because they
had an actual cast set, Ithought, and John Lithgow is on
there.
Well, anyway, either way, I'msorry, go ahead.

Zach (44:06):
The point is is the reason why they're doing this stuff is
?
I don't think they're doing itfor attention.
I don't think that they weredoing it.
They're doing it for attention.
They're doing it, uh, for anyother reason than that?
This is how they think they they, this is, this is they, this is
how them and all of them likethem, all their friends and

(44:27):
everybody in that industry, uhthink, and they haven't got the
message yet.
They haven't got the messageyet that people are tired of
that kind of stuff and the it'sone of those things that I think
it's the phrase that the youknow, uh, the inmates are
running the prison.
Uh, the studio execs, I think,are generally afraid of their
employees.
Yeah Right, and most of themare all unionized, all the

(44:52):
writers and everything like that.
So if they don't go along withthe program, meaning the execs,
then they'll be able to revoltand there'll be a, you know, a
strike and all this kind ofstuff, and then stuff doesn't
get made which does hurt thebottom line.
And so the execs are trying toplay this like middle ground
where they kind of appease themob, meaning their employees,

(45:13):
their liberal employees, alittle bit more.
Yeah, they can't give themeverything that they want, but
they try to appease them.
So they'll give them black,severus Snape so that they won't
revolt.
I think that's what's going on,because they can't do an
immediate switch.
The execs get the message.
They're like it's about dollarsand cents.

(45:35):
Right, here we can't keeppissing off, not you know 50 of
america at least, becausethey're not gonna go to our
fucking movies.
A la snow white is bombingright now, right, yep.
So they have to kind of adjust,and so that's the reason why I
think I think things are goingto get better, but you're gonna
have flashes of the stuff likethis yeah, it's not going to go

(45:56):
away completely.

Josh (45:57):
It may be a kick-ass show, I don't know.
I'm going to watch it because Iwant to know.
I want to know if the I want tosee if it's a train wreck and
we'll have to talk about it.
So I'll have to watch it.

Zach (46:04):
Well, I take that back.
I would end up watching Ringsof Power, which is so bad.
Season two I watched one andtwo.

Josh (46:13):
Still bad.
It's bad, but it's a lot.
I was entertained more inseason two than season one.

Zach (46:18):
I think it just makes me hate it more because it did have
better moments, but that's it,and so it made me mad because I
was like I know you guys can doit yeah, you know what I'm
saying so it just made me moremad.
Actually, the here's the myfavorite part of the whole, uh,
season two of rings of power iskella brimbor granny kella

(46:39):
brimbor dying.
That was my favorite part.

Josh (46:41):
Yeah, he got yep yep.
He died pretty, pretty brutally.
No more insurance sales,exactly he's done right.
Thanks a lot great clips.

Zach (46:47):
So, uh, now he's gone.
I'm like, yay, that's oneannoying character down.
You know, I'm saying, andactually a lot of the season one
characters, a couple of themdidn't make it, that didn't make
it into season two, and I washappy about that little barmaid
chick.
She was pointless.
I wish her stupid little sonwould have went with her.

Josh (47:03):
Yeah, it's kind of like the acolyte.
I loved it when he killedeverybody.
See, I didn't even watch that,fuck dude.
So just I don't want to get onthe whole thing because I hate
that show.
But, like your, bad guy endedup killing all the shitty
characters and I was like thisis great, keep going.
Yeah, I mean, he smoked likesix people in 10 minutes.
Yeah, it was fantastic.
I was like this is this is my,this is it.

(47:24):
This is him getting rid of thetrash yeah he didn't kill the
all the ones I wanted, but, fuck, he annihilated a lot of the
problem.
Yep, yeah, so it was.
Yeah, that movie got, that showgot canceled.
Yeah, one season and then theend of season one, they tried to
like give you this foreshadowof darth plagues.

Zach (47:40):
Like you to see his face oh yeah, you're like, yeah, no,
canceled a month later.

Josh (47:43):
Yeah, it's terrible review do the rate bombed?

Zach (47:47):
I don't think, I don't think of it and actually, uh,
good, well, I'll wait till sheactually, like uh, you know,
exits the parking lot for thelast time, but Kathleen Kennedy
is out as the head of Lucasfilm,who knows?

Josh (47:59):
I heard a rumor that she was sticking around until they
hired somebody.

Zach (48:02):
Apparently yeah, apparently.
She has talked about retirementfor several years now.
She sucks and she keeps comingback.
So you know, I've seen somevideos of people basically
breaking down, where StevenSpielberg and George Lucas
actually actually hate herfucking guts.
Yeah, because in what sucks?
But she had so much powerwithin the like the writer, the

(48:22):
writer's room that they kind ofcouldn't get rid of her.

Josh (48:28):
Why, don't know, when she lost her way.
She's been with Lucas for along.
I mean in the beginning.

Zach (48:33):
I'm telling you I should show this video.
They she's been with Lucas fora long time.
I mean in the beginning I'mtelling you I should show this
video.
They show she just lost herfucking mind.
They make a compelling.
I'll have to share you thisvideo.
They make a compelling argumentthat, even though she's been
with them for a long time, theynever liked her.
Was she the snake in the grass?
Yeah, especially Spielberg.
Spielberg fucking hated her guts.
I like Spielberg.
Spielberg fucking hated herguts.
I like old.
Spielberg.

(48:53):
But anyway she's fucking out,thank god and so.
But I don't think I've everseen, I don't think anybody in
the history of franchises hasdestroyed a franchise quite like
Kathleen Kennedy has done toStar Wars.

Josh (49:08):
I would agree with that.

Zach (49:09):
It's kind of impressive.
I would second that, yeah, shehas.
I'll be honest, outside ofAndor, which I do, I do like I
really like andor.
So I'm excited for season two,uh, because it it really does
focus on the the core trilogy,right, it's pre.
Uh, episode four, right, um,it's the lead up on how the

(49:29):
rebellion got started.
Like that's interesting, that'sgood.
That's like the same reason whywe like um rogue one.
It's right.
It expands the trilogy that welove just a little bit more but
not so jedi seth right exactlykind of.
That's what I like about andor.
Yes, it expands that what wealready know and love the
original trilogy just a littlebit more.
That's what I like about it.

(49:49):
The same thing for um well,bandalorian, it's post correct.
Original trilogy and expands itjust a little bit more, and
that's what I like about it.
If you're not going to do thatuh is touch around the original
trilogy, then get the fuck out.
You need to go do something youknow.
Knights of the.
Old.
Republic or you need to go farflung into the future.
Like, stop playing this, theseNot playing this.

(50:11):
Like the Acklight terriblefucking idea.
Yep Book of Boba Fett terrible.
Like name the show.
Very few Star Wars shows havebeen good and or has been a good
one.
Did you like Ahsoka?
Ahsoka was okay.
Okay, I do think it's up there.
There's potential.
But yes, it does have potential.
It's a little.
The Force Switch thing is alittle.

(50:31):
I mean, I know it's kind ofcanon now, but I get it.

Josh (50:35):
It was better as an animation.

Zach (50:36):
I think it's better than the animation I don't think
everything in Clone Warstranslates to live action, I
agree, but that's also good,because Filoni is basically
George Lucas' little nephew.

Josh (50:49):
But now the argument on the fans is Not really it's an
argument, it's kind of adiscussion.
Is who gets it?
Jon Favreau or, um, davidfiloni?
Some people want john favreaubecause david filoni is so good
with the animation and the otherand he's a true, but I would
take either one I think favreau,we'll see if, if filoni is is

(51:10):
is head of lucasfilm he probablywouldn't be then he's not on
the ground, he's doing exec shit, and that's what people are
afraid of.
It should be Favreau, I agree.

Zach (51:17):
But he probably won't.

Josh (51:18):
That's what people are afraid of.

Zach (51:20):
I almost I don't know who's actually in the running.
If I was going to, I don't knowwho's, only because she's
directed, something Bryce Howardis not terrible, but she does
like to do the.
I think she dabbles.
She does dabble in the girlboss kind of first female kind
of crap.
And if.

Josh (51:40):
I was in that position, I might too.
I can't say I wouldn't.
Yeah, I don't know if I wouldor not.

Zach (51:44):
I probably would Maybe, I don't know.

Josh (51:58):
There's only that you can break before.
There's just fucking brokenglass everywhere.
You know what I'm saying, butwe'll see.
Like that was the big thingwhen she was leaving and I was
like me and another guy oninstagram that uh follows our
pop was discussing it.
He made a post and I was likedude, I'm so glad to see her
leave.
Maybe we'll get something outof this that will be worthwhile.
Maybe we'll get a break on thebullshit, yeah, and get some
really good stuff.
I think it's I.

Zach (52:11):
I think it's going to be good stuff.
On the horizon Again, there'sgoing to be flashes of the woke
past where someone just can'tlet it go, but I think it's
going to generally be better,because these execs are tired of
losing money.
These studios can't keep losingmoney.

Josh (52:31):
Do you think that Mandalorian Grogu movie will be
any good?
I think it's going to be shit.
I would good.
I think it's going to be shit.
I would say I think it's goingto be shit.

Zach (52:37):
I'll say this I think Mandalorian ran its course.
I do too, already.
I think it actually ran itscourse.
I think season two, I thinkwhenever, the season where it
ended with Luke.

Josh (52:50):
I think it should have been stopped there.
I think that's when Mandalorianran out.
I think it kind of lost it'sfuel a bit.

Zach (52:56):
Yeah, I think that's when it ran out, and they've just
been kind of just milking itever since.

Josh (53:00):
That's kind of what I agree with you as soon as he
started taking his helmet off.
And then they the Boba Fettthing.
We've talked about it.
It's fucking trash.
We'll see, I don't know.
I think that I think that'sreally the big thing.
Well, they've Ahsoka will haveanother season, I'm sure, and

(53:20):
then we'll get that GroguMandalorian movie.
And then after that there'sstill talks of them bringing
Daisy in to do her fuckingcharacter.

Zach (53:33):
I'm not for that at all.
Rey Skywalker, I don't care.

Josh (53:37):
Okay, I don't care anymore .
I don't care about her.
No, I just don't Sorry.

Zach (53:41):
I want to forget that whole trilogy.

Josh (53:42):
It was cool because she was attractive and it was, you
know, new.
It's like pizza, I mean, evenwhen it sucks it's still pretty
good, but like I'm done withthat, I don't.
I don't care about that anymore.
Yeah, like you said, this everhappened.

Zach (54:01):
Knights of old republic, take it back or weigh the fuck
away from all this.
I don't want to hear anythingabout this.
Yeah, move on right.
Yep, exactly, um, you know.
Or if you know what they shouldhave done with the original
trilogy?
Um, or if they, you know this,uh, the latest trilogy?
Um, they should have justrecasted everybody and just
continued on from three.

Josh (54:16):
Yes.

Zach (54:17):
Um, uh, continued, continued on from um, um, return
of the Jedi, or you know, 20years later or something like
that.
Uh, which they kind of did.
They did you know 20, 30 years,how, what is it?
And they just kept all the sameactors, but then they killed
them all off, and that was thepart that was dumb To me.
I don't think they needed it.
It's like every single, likeLuke, leia, han all got killed

(54:41):
off.
Well, leia didn't, but almostdid.
Yeah, she anyway.
Yeah, that whole thing.

Josh (54:45):

Zach (54:46):
It's just like they were.
Just that was the part thatbothered me and they weren't the
focus.
That and they weren't the focus.
That was the thing that wascrazy about it is they weren't
the focus, they were cameo, theywere side characters, they were
like backseat driving.
It was so stupid, like how areyou going to bring back the
original actors playing theoriginal big three and even

(55:08):
Chewbacca.
And they were backgroundcharacters.
Well, and they were boring.
And they were boring, they didnothing, yeah.
I I mean, they all now havere-talked about even Mark
Hamill's Mark Hamill and said itwas shit he's a big time Wokey
and he says a bunch of bullshiton Twitter or whatever, or an ex
, but when he starts talkingabout the latest trilogy, he
lets it fly.
He does.

Josh (55:28):
I'm all about it.
I do too, because it's true andhe can say it.
I'm not going to argue with him.
He was there 100%.
He says it was shit 100%.

Zach (55:36):
So I don't know.
I'm just not interested Becauseof what Kathleen Kennedy does,
and I think that a lot of peoplehave this sense is like I don't
want any more Star Wars rightnow.
I don't either.
I like Andorra.
I want to see where that goes.
I'm spent.

Josh (55:50):
Same with Marvel.
I'm tapped out, Dude.
I'm done with both of them.

Zach (55:53):
They kept fucking him up too much to where I just want
you to just not touch it for awhile.

Josh (55:58):
I think both should take a long break.

Zach (56:00):
Yes.

Josh (56:01):
I like quality over quantity.
Yeah, just relax and give ussome good stuff.
Yeah, because I don't.
Even, besides, that Kraven shitmovie I watched the other day
like I haven't watched anything.
Marvel, I don't want, I haven'twatched anything marvel, I
don't.
Oh, yeah, I mean, I watchedthat one because it came on to
netflix and I like aaron, uh,johnson, I like him, um, but
that movie's shit too.

(56:21):
Yeah but it got great audiencesloved it, but I'm like no yeah,
but I mean it bombed.
I mean audience didn't love itenough to apparently go see it
blown up on netflix oh sure, butI'm like'm like.

Zach (56:34):
It came out to Netflix.
I think there were still sometheaters still fucking showing
it.
How fast it came out.
I don't know that's how youknow it's bad.

Josh (56:42):
I only just got.
Well, it just came out.
Last couple weeks it just hit.

Zach (56:46):

Josh (56:49):
Yeah, I guess I didn't realize that.

Zach (56:50):
No, it was very fast.
It's not good, no it's not asbad as Morbius, but it's bad.
Yeah, morbius was also bad.
I would say.
The only people that should beable to handle Marvel movies
going forward is Marvel Studios,but they ain't done a great job
either as of late.
So you know, where are we goingto get that fix?

(57:14):
Maybe that is also one of theones that we should just not
have as much of.
We've overexposed on superheromovies.
It's used up.
This isn't like a hot take I'msure everyone's talked about
this kind of thing but maybejust do one one a year just give
us just keep stringing us along, but don't.
But you're not going to be ableto recapture the in-game magic.

Josh (57:37):
Is there any shows you're looking forward to that aren't
in that genre?

Zach (57:40):
Well, so this is something we could talk about, because we
teased it already Severance.

Josh (57:46):
So I got you on to Severance you got caught up
really quick.

Zach (57:49):
Yep, I watched season one and I had to wait.
I didn't have to wait as longas everybody.
It was three years betweenseason one and season two.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, it was a very long hiatusbetween seasons, but I didn't
watch it when it first came outon season one when it first came

(58:10):
out.
But I caught up, I don't know,last summer, and so I still had
to wait a little bit.
Fantastic show, it is fantastic.
The finale.
I kind of had an idea.
I had a feeling Spoiler, if youhaven't seen it, I was pissed.
I had a feeling that he wasgoing to do that.

(58:33):
I pissed me off as soon as shewent through the door.
First I docked at two that.
I pissed me off that at thevery end.
That's why I gave it in.

Josh (58:35):
As soon as she went through the door first, I docked
it two points because he pissedme off.
Yeah, it was a 10 out of 10episode.
That's the reason I liked it,because I was just like I was.

Zach (58:44):
I was.
I don't think I blinked forlike the last two minutes of the
of that scene.

Josh (58:50):
I was locked in the elevator scene up.

Zach (58:52):
Yes, I was locked in.
I was locked in that shit whenhe completely locked in.

Josh (58:55):
Yes, I laughed so hard with that poor guy when he
twitched.
When he transitioned from hisinning to his outing in the
elevator.
That poor guy.

Zach (59:01):
And he twitched and the fucking shot that bolt into his
neck.
I was like, oh my God, I'msorry.
Exactly.
The only people that are goingto what the fuck we're talking
about is if you've seen it.
Sorry, if you haven't seen it,go watch it.
Severance is.
This particular segment is notfor you if you haven't seen it.

Josh (59:20):
Someone asked me if they should watch it.
I told them I was like dude,it's a slow burn, it's a slow
burn.
I took episode two for me toget hooked, because there's that
mystery Plus.
I work in an office setting.
So immediately I was like, yeah, I would get this surgery
tomorrow.
Yes, Like I still 100 percent,100 percent, I would get it.
But then you know, it opens upall these questions about.

Zach (59:39):
you know philosophical questions about like you know
identity, like who are youreally Like?
Are they there Any, are theythere?
Is it just?
because, just because the Audi,you know essentially quote,
created the any, is the any moreMark than you know what I'm
saying?
Who's your?

Josh (59:58):
true self.
Who's your true self?

Zach (59:59):
Is it just because and they even kind of say this I
think the best scene of thatseason or that episode was when
they were going back and forthrecording themselves and he was
having a conversation with hisAudi.

Josh (01:00:14):
You talking about the last yes, great acting.

Zach (01:00:17):
Yes, I loved that because you really got to see they are
two different people, but theyalso have kind of the same I
don't know almost kind of thesame moral sense.
Yes.
They're kind of the same persondeep down.
It's weird, but because oftheir environment they have a
little bit different.
And one of the things that uhthe any says mark s says to the

(01:00:40):
audi um he's like why would youhave more right?
Like, if we do thisreintegration thing, like you've
been alive for you know howevermany 30 something years and uh,
I'm at two years I'm at twoyears, like it's going to be
more you than me.

Josh (01:00:56):
Exactly right.

Zach (01:00:58):
And he was basically making the argument is like you
know, why should you?
Why do you think you have moreright to this body or is your
identity more valid just becauseyou've got more years on it?
I've only been alive for twoyears and it was making a very
good you know argument thatabout, about you know, the value
of, of, of people is notnecessarily dependent on how

(01:01:20):
long you've been on the earth orwhatever.
Yes, it's interesting, veryinteresting arguments very, I
like to take.
It's not woke at all, I havenot.

Josh (01:01:28):
I have not once detected anything.

Zach (01:01:31):
I take that back back up.
I would say it's not woke.
Because this isn't woke andit's crazy that that the the
state of things to where youknow.
I remember once upon a time, uh, you know, 10 years ago, that
if you saw like a dude on dude,like kissing, you've been like
oh the fuck, it's jarring in a,in a you know, a um in something

(01:01:55):
that was for the masses, sureYou'd have to go elsewhere.
It was always something thatwas either funny or it was you'd
see it, and it wasintentionally jarring.
Kind of weird stigma Right, butnow it's just kind of running
the mill, and so that's what.
I'm saying there is that thething with John Turturro's
character and Christopher Walken.

Josh (01:02:14):
I'm sorry.

Zach (01:02:15):
It's just weird.
It is weird, but it didn'tbother me.
It's weird seeing Christopher.
Walken and John Turturro aboutto bang.

Josh (01:02:21):
It's so fucking weird.
It's weird, but it didn'tbother me enough.

Zach (01:02:23):
No, it didn't, it actually was fine it felt to the story.

Josh (01:02:27):
Yeah, I was fine with it.
It wasn't like they said whatthe fuck does that do with the
story?
Yes, this played into the story.

Zach (01:02:33):
So here's the here's the reason why I say that, that,
that, that, that, that wasn'twoke at all.
I just the reason why ittriggered me.
Or I because it was because itthere's something like this used
to be strange, correct, um, butit's not anymore.
Um, and I'm gonna, I'm gonnarecall a, a scene, actually an
entire episode, uh, of the lastof us and I have not watched all

(01:02:55):
of that.
Okay, so there's a there's athere's an episode in the last
of us where it had um damn, Ican't think of his name.
It's ron swanson.
Oh, I've seen that you knownick offerman.
Nick, I saw that whole episodeand whoever the other guy was uh
, he was in we talked about thaton the white lotus but um yeah
and I didn't.
I don't need to see NickOfferman and some other dude

(01:03:16):
like fuck.
I don't need to see that it wasunnecessary, correct and they
do.
They do stuff like thatintentionally to provoke people.

Josh (01:03:27):
Didn't it funny how we talked about that.
We were like the envelope orwhatever.

Zach (01:03:30):
In whatever they did.
That's what I liked about theway they did with john turow and
I didn't need to see john turowand christopher walken.

Josh (01:03:39):
Take advantage of that, yeah correct.

Zach (01:03:40):
Okay, I don't need to see that to understand what's
happening with their story yeahright, I didn't, I don't.
You know, that's how you do it.
That's how you do it.
You ease people into.
If you've got a point to makemovie makers and show makers
you've got a point to make.
Don't slap people across theface with it is all I'm asking.
If you got a point to make andyou want to get people used to

(01:04:02):
it and I may disagree with it, Imay agree with it.
Whatever it doesn't.
That's not the point.
The point is the tactic easepeople into it.

Josh (01:04:10):
I don't fucking slap them across the face yeah, that's why
it didn't bother me.
It has to make sense of thestory.

Zach (01:04:16):
It's the reason why Gen Z is basically against like full
frontal, like gratuitous nudityand and and sex scenes and
movies is because they value offthe authenticity more than past
generations is, that they wantit to it to feel authentic.
And whenever you have ablatantly obvious scene where
he's just to show the actress'stits, which I appreciate, yeah,

(01:04:37):
but I think, but at the sametime, if it's all that movie is,
it does take you out of it andyou're just like, well, this
seems unnecessary.

Josh (01:04:43):
It's funny you say that I was about to ask you if you feel
like there's too much now inmovies.

Zach (01:04:50):
I think at one point there was.

Josh (01:04:51):
Yeah.
I think, sometimes it was.
I was like sometimes I wouldfast forward through stuff
Because it wasn't.
I don't need to see this, it'snot a part of the story.
I want to get back to the story.
I don't need to see this.
There are shows that I knowit's going to have it in it and
that's fine.

Zach (01:05:06):
Yes, Well, you didn't get to see full frontal, but but we
were just talking about thatshow with Megan Fox in it.
That movie, yeah, that's legit.
The only reason why anybodywatched that fucking movie.

Josh (01:05:19):
I told my friends Just to see how hot she is.
I told my friends to watch it,just so you could see that part.

Zach (01:05:24):
It's actually a bad movie.

Josh (01:05:25):
It's a terrible movie, but she's stunning.

Zach (01:05:28):
And it's obvious that what's happening in this movie
and during that scene, duringthe sex scene, completely takes
you out of this.
It was unnecessary, but that'sthe only reason why that movie
exists is to see Megan Fox likefuck a dude.

Josh (01:05:40):
That's 100% correct.

Zach (01:05:41):
I think that I'm fine with thenudity, obviously, but it has to
fit, just like everything elsein the movie.

Josh (01:05:52):
It has to fit within the movie but getting back to
severance within the show, likeyou said it best, though, like
that was it.
That's the only thing that Isaw, like you saw that was.
Otherwise you could call thatwoke.

Zach (01:06:02):
I wouldn't say that I don't think it's woke, but I
could not find a woke thing inhere.
Uh, in fact, they kind of pokedat it a little bit.
There was this past season.
There was a scene where, uh, mrmilchick, which I love that
character, he's great, I love heis great, and if he's uber
bullshit, yes, makes me laugh sohard because I know people like

(01:06:23):
that.
Yes, so it cracks me up so goodand he has like a very deep and
extensive vocabulary and he'svery he's kind of uppity or
whatever, but it's played by a.
It's a african american guy andhe can tell whenever he he
still has, uh, when he dancesand he lets loose a little bit,
you can see he's kind of more ofa normal person he's not as
well, he's not, yeah, you knowI'm saying he kind of when he

(01:06:45):
lets loose a little bit or whenhe gets angry, that's whenever
you see like okay, he's not,he's less robotic, he's a little
bit more of a normal person.

Josh (01:06:52):
He doesn't have some emotions.

Zach (01:06:53):
He's one of my favorite characters, no, but whenever
he's like in boss mode, he islike a robot and it's
fascinating.
I love that character so much.
But, um, there was a scenewhere, uh, he was being um
congratulated for something orwhatever I don't think it was
his birthday, or maybe it waslike after his evaluation or
whatever it was and they, the,you know, the board, the

(01:07:15):
mysterious board.
Oh yeah, the speaker um, whichis just like a little speaker on
a desk and that's all you andyou don't even get to hear their
voice.
They're always speaking through,uh, the secretary, the little
secretary chick so weird um,right, I love it, it's.

Josh (01:07:27):
Uh, they gave him a gift and it was like all these
portraits if here was black, youcould tell it pissed him off,
it pissed him off.

Zach (01:07:37):
And so that scene right there it was like they're
actually kind of making fun ofthem trying to like woke-ify and
blackwash characters.
Right, Because this Keircharacter is supposed to be like
.
Obviously there's a cultelement, that's going on with
the show.
There's a cult thing happeningand kira is like the cult leader

(01:07:59):
and he's you know, he's kind ofexalted to this, like almost
demigod status or whatever, andtheir gift is to like well, what
if our demigod, our cult leader, was black and looked kind of
like you?

Josh (01:08:11):
like they're kind of making fun of that on him a
little bit.
It was the whole thing likethey were trying to make him
more comfortable.
Yeah, it was just like we wantyou to see, want to, we thought
we you would like to seeyourself in care or whatever I
love that character so I didn'tknow it, but I was to a podcast
where they interviewed thatactor and the part where they
celebrate when they have, likeshe has, like the maracas, and

(01:08:32):
they're like this.
Love that scene that was notscripted.

Zach (01:08:35):
He improvised the whole thing.

Josh (01:08:36):
He said he pushed the button and the lights came on.
And there was no.
They just all went with theflow.
They didn't know what was goingto happen.
They call it the milkshake shake, that's what he called it.
So I thought that whole thingwas great.
It's a lot more organic and Ilove that scene.
You said you kind of and theshow does that you don't know
what to think of really anyone.
You don't know who's.
You know, you have your innies,but your, your management staff

(01:08:58):
, you don't know if they're in,out, and the dude comes in all
of a sudden he like cuts looseand you're like what the fuck is
he like?
Does he have more privilegesthan the other people?
Like what's going on here andit's it's so unsettling and
uncomfortable at times, but thenyou're just I have to know more
, I have to know what'shappening here.

Zach (01:09:16):
You know what I'm saying you?
You have a recent binge of thisshow is lost.
And someone someone, someonesaid this uh, that I can
remember where I heard this.
But uh, they said this this isis just like loss was, except
they actually give you answers.
Yeah, so there's, you actuallydo get answers at the end of the
season.

Josh (01:09:35):
Yeah, you and I still have .
I still have questions.
They do leave some and I'm justlike I still don't know what's
going on like like whenever theywell, this season two started.

Zach (01:09:43):
One of the things that they said early on is like uh,
why are you a kid they weretalking to?
Like the little oh and they'relike why are you a kid?
Because they it's the firsttime they've seen a kid working
there, you know what.
I'm saying so, but but then, asthe season progresses, you see
that cobel was part of the cultas a child.
Yes, right, and so they hadthese kind of um, like schools

(01:10:05):
like these, like, uh, children'sprograms or whatever, that they
would get into and and theywould become good little you
know Keir followers or whatever.
And that's what she was.
She was because, you saw, atthe end Milchak gave her like a
you know a medal or whatever.
It was a patch or some shit soweird, and then she had to like
smash her little game.
It was like a ritual.

(01:10:25):
And because she was part of the, you know, the youths of Keir
or whatever.

Josh (01:10:29):
It was very.

Zach (01:10:35):
Ben Still is a genius.
So I will tell you, I'll betyou money right now that and
there's already a lot ofparallels but I'll bet you that
Ben Stiller, without saying it,is basically making fun of
Scientology.

Josh (01:10:48):
He's commenting on Scientology.
It's funny.
You say that I was just tellingLeander at work.
I was like, because he watchesit too, we went back, and that I
was just telling Leander atwork.
I was like, because he watchesit too, we went back and forth
and I was like that dude theKeir is straight up the leader
of Scientology.
It's L Ron Hubbard.
This is exactly how I feel whenI see this that's what I get,

(01:11:11):
and I don't know if he's makinglot of actors.

Zach (01:11:13):
There's a lot of Hollywood people that are in Scientology,
I think.

Josh (01:11:16):
Ben Stiller keys in on it, it's so outlandish.
These people are believing thisperson the way it all.
It's almost.
What do you call it fiction?
The whole thing is like ascience, it's wild.

Zach (01:11:32):
It's also got some comedic elements, because it is ben
stiller and I'm I.
I really do think that he isbasically slapping hollywood
across the face a little bit.
Yeah, with this show he did.
He did the same thing withtropic thunder.
It was a basically a movieabout making a movie, and they
casted robert downey jr as ablack guy, which is one of his
best performances ever.

(01:11:52):
The only acceptable blackfacethat was ever put to film.

Josh (01:11:56):
I go back and watch clips and I was like he is one of.
That is the best.
But I mean, they asked him.
He was on Joe Rogan and theyasked him about it.
Robert, this was a long.
He was like they called or Bencalled him.
He was like do you want to playlike you know?
A black, yes, yes.

Zach (01:12:10):
And then he, he cast um.
And then he had uh Tom Cruiseplay like this sleazy nasty, uh
Harvey Weinstein like studio andhe crushed it, and crushed it
Right.
Ben Stiller knows what he'sdoing.
He likes to smack around hisears.

Josh (01:12:29):
Yeah, it is a great movie, that is.

Zach (01:12:33):
So I love that show.
I think it is I legit think itis probably the best show on TV
in quite a while.

Josh (01:12:43):
It's really relatable, even, especially with the
working force.
People Like it's the idea ofthat, it's not AI.
No, the idea of this is I wasjust like this is what a concept
, it's 100%.
And then Adam Scott is likethis is what a concept, it's
100%.
And then Adam Scott is so goodin it.
Oh yeah, he is so good in it.
I'd have to agree.
It's one of the best shows I'veseen in a long time.
It is very good.
It's really addictive.

(01:13:03):
It's really good.
It's wild and just 10 out of 10, I recommend anyone checking it
out.

Zach (01:13:09):
Yeah, even, yeah, 100%, even though we spoiled the shit
out of it, definitely go watchit.

Josh (01:13:12):
Definitely go watch it.
We did kind of spoil it.

Zach (01:13:14):
There's a lot of stuff that we didn't spoil, that we
didn't touch on.

Josh (01:13:17):
Even if someone had told me all that, I still would.
There's still stuff we haven'teven touched on.

Zach (01:13:22):
Oh yeah.

Josh (01:13:24):
It's really expansive.

Zach (01:13:33):
I'm curious to see how they.
I'm obsessed with this show.

Josh (01:13:36):
There's big stuff in the pipe this year.
You've got the end of StrangerThings towards Christmas, their
final season finally.

Zach (01:13:44):
I'm ready for it to be over.

Josh (01:13:45):
I am too.
I'm excited to see it Ready toget to the end the new Alien
series that Hulu's doing I'mexcited about that, that that
Hulu's doing that one.

Zach (01:13:55):
I'm excited about that.
That one is going to beinteresting.
Alien Earth I'm curious to seehow that's going to go.

Josh (01:13:59):
I think it's going to be rad.
And then there's the nextPredator movie is going to be
for the first time.

Zach (01:14:04):
Prey 2.

Josh (01:14:05):
That's coming too, but it's going to be told from the
Predator's perspective which Iwas like I'm fucking, I'm here,
I'm in 100%.
Any of those are good.

Zach (01:14:14):
I'm stoked for Andor Season 2 coming out.

Josh (01:14:16):
I watched the trailer.

Zach (01:14:19):
I think it looks great.
I think it's got the biggestbudget of any Disney show so far
.
That's cool In Andor Season 2.
Just let it translate into beinggood.
It looks like the GalacticCivil War is going to fully
break out in Andor.
Season 2 is what it looks like,so I'm excited about that.
Okay, I don't know, I haven'twatched.
The latest episode Comes out onTuesdays, but Daredevil Born

(01:14:43):
Again.
I haven't watched any of it.
It's boring as fuck.
I've heard he's been he was inthe it's been.
I've watched three episodes.
I think there's a, there's a,there's a fourth I haven't seen
yet which I think I'm supposedto tease Punisher, and this one,
I think Return of Jon Bernthal.
But three episodes, threeepisodes he was in the suit a

(01:15:05):
total of like two minutes in thefirst episode.
I don't really give a shitabout Daredevil, it's so boring.

Josh (01:15:12):
I don't care, I was stoked for it.

Zach (01:15:15):
I was like, okay, look it, looks like they're bringing it
back.
It's going to be kind of darkGritty Brought all the same.
The original cast back VincentD'Onofrio as Kingpin.
He hams up the screen so much.
The way he talks, it's soham-fisted.
I don't like him.
I don't like him straight upperiod, end of story.
I don't like that character.

(01:15:36):
I don't like Vincent and Alfred.
I don't like the way he playsit.

Josh (01:15:37):
I like him as Edgar the Bug.

Zach (01:15:39):
I like him as Edgar the Bug in Men in Black.
That's it.
That's the only thing I've everliked about him.
It's terrible.
It's so boring.
They're trying to make it dark.
I don't know.
They're also trying to have amessage and make some comments.
I don't know.
I don't know where they'regoing with it.
It needs to pick the fuck up,because I'm bored.

Josh (01:15:59):
I'm not watching it.
I know you told me to check itout.
I think you should probablypass.

Zach (01:16:02):
I don't think I'm going to watch it.
You watch Acolyte and I didn't,so I'll watch this and you
don't have to.

Josh (01:16:07):
I'm not that bored.

Zach (01:16:09):
So I'll watch the season four or episode four and see if
it's any better.
But I kind of read something towhere basically they said the
same thing.
They said besides the littletease for Punisher, and then
something else.
It's basically boring.
Like the show is so boring,yeah, I'm good.
So Disney Marvel you suck, I'mdone with you.
I didn't watch Echo at all.

(01:16:31):
Oh, I didn't watch it either.
Didn't watch that one.
The only thing that I enjoyed,legit, legit the only thing that
I actually enjoyed was Loki.

Josh (01:16:39):
That was the last one.

Zach (01:16:40):
So I'm over it.
I'm going to kind of just haveit in the background maybe, or I
won't watch it entirely, likeEcho, right.
Same thing goes for Star Warsproperties.
I didn't watch Acolyte.
It's not good.
It does not earn my attention.
With Kathleen Kennedy gone,we'll see, maybe it'll be better
, but I'm going to reservejudgment until all the facts

(01:17:03):
come out.
It's actually kind of nice toget away from those big
franchise things like star Warsand Marvel and kind of get into
some other.

Josh (01:17:14):
I've been watching.
I've been watching older movieslately like not old but like I
went back and watched the men inblack movie a couple weeks ago.

Zach (01:17:21):
Okay, he was talking about some early two thousands.

Josh (01:17:23):
I watched those again.
Which they're the?
They're awesome movies.

Zach (01:17:27):
I don't care what anybody says, even the third one.

Josh (01:17:29):
Especially the first one, even the third one.
I went back and watched WildWild West.

Zach (01:17:34):
Oh, mine was Wild too.

Josh (01:17:35):
I didn't realize how bad that movie did.
Oh yeah, it was garbage.
Same director as Men in Black.
I fucking love that movie.
I don't care what anybody says,I love that movie.

Zach (01:17:47):
What was the movie that Will Smith turned down to do?
Wild Wild West?
The Matrix?
The Matrix, that's right.
He was going to be Neo.
He turned it down and he waslike, nah, I'm going to do Wild
Wild West.
He thought Wild Wild West wasgoing to be bigger.

Josh (01:17:56):
Well, so let me look and see what it was.
That's what he thought too, butit kind of helped, though,
because it took him into Men inBlack.

Zach (01:18:10):
And that did, true, but I mean, that's, that's how Will
Smith always kind of approachedprojects is.
Is box office he?
He wanted to be in the biggestthing.
Okay, so until as of late, whenhe started kind of doing his
own thing.

Josh (01:18:17):
So men in black came first .
That was 97.
I think it was 99.

Zach (01:18:21):
I thought so Well, yeah, but I mean what?
Three years, 97, 99, two yearsapart?
I would say, sometimes they maynot release, they may have shot
, or he agreed to do somethingbefore they.
You know, the timing of it mayhave been different.

Josh (01:18:38):
Oh, he did turn down the role of Neo to play in Wild West
Wow, big mistake.
I'm glad he did, though,because Keanu Reeves is the man.
Oh, yeah, 100%.
I don't think it would havebeen the same.
I don't think it would havebeen the same.
I don't think so.
I like Will Smith.
Yeah, I would have, but maybenot as late.
Yeah, but.

Zach (01:18:53):
I, uh, I'm okay with that.
I even at the time I don'tthink we could, I don't think
Will Smith had done anythingserious, so I think he would
have what the role calls for.
It called for Keanu Reeves.
He played it pretty well, itcalled for him.

Josh (01:19:11):
Yeah 100%.
Yeah, I went back and watchedthat.
I don't know why everybodyhates it so much.
I love that movie.
I think it's fun.
It's fun, it's quick.
It's got hot women in it.
It's got good acting.
It's fun.
Dude, will Smith's cool as fuck.

Zach (01:19:23):
I love Kenneth Branagh in the wheelchair.

Josh (01:19:26):
he's the villain Dude when they go back and forth like
their racial slurs and shit, itis the best.
Yeah, dude, he's like I got tostand up.

Zach (01:19:36):
Yeah right.

Josh (01:19:39):
And he's in that little.
Of course it's so outlandishbecause he would never survive
like that.

Zach (01:19:43):
No.

Josh (01:19:44):
I mean it's so wild and he's got like this little like
steam, but he plays it so wellSteam-powered wheelchair he
plays it so well and they haveall these little like.
He makes all these pervyremarks.
These women, and they, justlike, are enthralled with him.

Zach (01:19:57):
It's great, it's awesome.
Oh yeah, Um, yeah, I do.
I do like that.
That's a fun little.
It's like you can make thesemovies that are like that, that
you know, like the electricstate, I'm never going to watch
that again.

Josh (01:20:15):
No, no, you're not.
Well, I mean, why, why, why,why, why, why, why, why, why,
why?
Stuff just get lost and it'slike just do something fun, yeah
, and even if it was especiallynow, which you don't have to go
to theaters anymore, no, put itstraight to streaming.

Zach (01:20:33):
And even if it was ridiculous like, yeah, some of
the things that were happening,like this whole steam powered
thing, was so funny, ridiculous.
Everything that kind ofhappened in that movie kind of I
don't know made sense.

Josh (01:20:44):
It made, yeah, like within the within that universe, it in
that universe there was nothingthat was like what, like it was
all, and that they explainedthere was nothing that was like
what they explained howeverything worked.

Zach (01:20:53):
It was pretty straightforward, pretty simple.
Obviously an 80-foot metaltarantula was a bit fetched, but
it was cool.

Josh (01:21:02):
I liked that movie a lot.

Zach (01:21:04):
And then I do like.
What was his name?
Kevin Kline?
He played, also the president.

Josh (01:21:11):
He played president grant too.
Yes, he did.
Yeah, it was.
Then he made fun of himself.

Zach (01:21:16):
It was great dude.
It was good, though he's like Qor whatever.

Josh (01:21:22):
He would have been making all these gadgets and stuff.

Zach (01:21:24):
Will, that's how we say hello.
You know how's your mama.

Josh (01:21:26):
How's your mama?
How's your mama?

Zach (01:21:28):
smacking her teeth.
Yeah, that's funny.
Um, it's good.
Yeah, that's.
That's a good little uhthrowback.
I enjoyed that one too.

Josh (01:21:36):
Yeah, but I typically I've been going back and just
grabbing some flicks just forfiller in between shows and
stuff just like, or if I don'thave that.

Zach (01:21:46):
I don't, I don't.

Josh (01:21:48):
I will say anything during the day 90, stuff like nineties
, even the stuff we watch askids like they say some shit
that you could never say anymore, and it blows my mind that we
have like, just like.
Oh, my God like this dude in themovie called his brothers
retarded and I'm like, yes,can't say that anymore.
Well, yes, can't say thatanymore.
Well, that word's back.
You can definitely say it again.

(01:22:08):
You can say it now we'reallowed to.
Yeah, I need to go back.
There was one that there'sanother show I want to go back
and watch.
Oh fuck, it's on Apple TV.
Have you seen Sea With?

Zach (01:22:24):
Jason Momoa.
No, but I kept seeing.
I see clips about it.
I don't know, but I kept seeing.
I see clips about it lately forsome reason.
It's like the algorithms wantme to watch this show for some
reason and people are sayingit's like don't sleep on it.

Josh (01:22:39):
I don't know.
I asked a buddy of mine at workabout it.
He was like I don't know,because they're blind.
I said, well, you guys, someonegets blind people.
He was like I just.
I said, well, it's just notrelatable.
Right, I get it.
I think he was just weirded outbecause they're all blind.
He's like I just can't get intoit.

Zach (01:22:50):
It is weird.

Josh (01:22:50):
I mean it is weird.
Well, I asked him if he everseen like blind fury, that uh
comedy film where that guy comesback from Vietnam and he's like
a samurai.
You never seen the movie?
No, I think it's do.

Zach (01:23:01):
Yeah, I watch a lot of stupid shit.
No, um, I've probably seen waymore uh anime than you.

Josh (01:23:05):
Oh yeah, a hundred percent yeah.
Blind fear was from 1990saction comedy.
Okay, god comes back fromVietnam and he has like
heightened senses and he carriesa cane.
That's a samurai sword.

Zach (01:23:20):
Okay, yeah, that's good dude, take two things that don't
match and smash them togetherand make a movie about it blind
people and samurai and they'relike, boom, now we got a movie.
It's like they just took abunch of random words and
jumbled them up like yahtzee anddumped them out on the table
and it's like, oh, and they,there's, there's a movie right
there.
Those two things that don'tmatch at all.

Josh (01:23:42):
That was very big in the 90s but it works, but it worked,
it's just so, as long as it'sentertaining, i'm'm like all
right, yeah, somebody wementioned you remember Warriors
of Virtue?

Zach (01:23:51):
Oh, yeah, a little kangaroo looking fucking dude.

Josh (01:23:53):
It's one of those things too, where it's like some
crippled kid ends up going downa water chute and sprouts out
with giant kangaroos that dokung fu, yep so.

Zach (01:24:02):
What was the things that, one of the other things you want
to talk about?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, let'stalk.
What were we going to talkabout?
It was uh the C, uh, somethingabout uh sequels.
Oh yeah, worse, worse sequels,worse sequels.
Yeah.
What do you think is the, uh theword?
You want to do that one or youdo something else.

Josh (01:24:21):
I'd say probably the worst sequel.
Okay, we'll do this one okay,the one to Pacific Rim.

Zach (01:24:30):
Oh yeah, that's a good one trash yeah, uprising was
terrible, terrible movie andsuch a missed opportunity like I
mean the first one was was kindof, you know, had a style that
was kind of corny, it's becauseit was Guillermo and he didn't
do the second one right, thedialogue was definitely, and
Charlie Hunnam can't act out ofa fucking paper bag.

Josh (01:24:48):
Yeah, but he was better, but he's not in the second one.

Zach (01:24:50):
But he's not in the second one, but it somehow like the
second one was so much worse.

Josh (01:24:55):
Don Boyega was terrible in it, yeah.
And then you had I can't standScott Eastwood.
Yeah, he also can't.
I cannot stand that character.

Zach (01:25:04):
He has no emotion in his acting at all.
He emotion in his acting at all.
He he's a stiff piece of woodum, and and also it violates
also one of my bugaboos, it'skids.

Josh (01:25:16):
Saving the day with kids saving.

Zach (01:25:17):
I don't know why it drives me nuts.
Well, they deviated from thestory.

Josh (01:25:19):
So much.

Zach (01:25:20):
It'd have been fine if they were like, you know,
teenagers attitude.
Because I love power rangers,right, because those are
basically like adults, yeah, butlike physically they're adults,
yeah.
At that point you know I'msaying they, they're not, they
don't have much more to grow.
They may be a little immatureand brash.
Well, they have attitude butyeah, but you know late
teenagers, you know 17, 18, 19year olds there can be in peak

(01:25:42):
physical condition, so it makessense for them to save the world
.
You know what?
I'm saying um, not someone who'sfucking 12.
That's stupid.
Yep, but I digress, I'm notgoing to go down that road, calm
down.

Josh (01:25:55):
You hate kids, all right.

Zach (01:25:56):
I hate children.

Josh (01:25:56):
I tried to actually we tried to watch it was last night
.
I turned on the first episodeof Power Rangers from the 90s.

Zach (01:26:04):
Episode one the whole season pops out of the fucking
moon trash, can I put it?

Josh (01:26:08):
I put it on, uh, harper was not interested in it, she
thought it was stupid.
I was fucking psyched.
And then I got to looking andI'm like this looks really bad.
It is bad.
It's terrible, but it's, butthey go to the gym and the kid
like there's like a karate classin this like there's like I

(01:26:30):
didn't know that.
Billy didn't have any karateskills.
No, he was just like a littlenerd.
He was just taking his firstclass the day he becomes a
ranger?

Zach (01:26:34):
Yep, but somehow, being a power ranger, you have the
ability.

Josh (01:26:37):
Which kind of pisses me off because everyone else is
trained.
So I'm like well, this dipshitwith the glasses because he's
good with technology, yep, thatkind of pissed me off a little
more than it did then.

Zach (01:26:47):
It bothers me now.

Josh (01:26:52):
He was gay.
That kind of pissed me off alittle more than it did then.
Uh, it bothers me as gay aswell.

Zach (01:26:54):
Yeah, but he wasn't.
I don't know he was.
He wasn't gay, to my knowledge.
Then, uh, yeah, um, actually Isaw something.
Did you know that the?
Uh, I think it was, I thinkthey.
It was just season one, maybe,or maybe the first episode, I
can't quite remember, but uh,the scenes where they're power
rangers, um, was repurposedfootage from the Japanese,
that's correct.

Josh (01:27:12):
And they dubbed over.

Zach (01:27:13):
They dubbed over their voices yes, so it wasn't even
created for the.

Josh (01:27:17):
American audience.
Rita's mouth doesn't match.

Zach (01:27:19):
Rita doesn't match.

Josh (01:27:20):
It's awful, and that's the reason why yeah exactly, it's a
great show, but I never noticedit when I was a kid.

Zach (01:27:25):
And that's the reason she looked Asian, like it never made
any sense.
I was like you could totallysee it.

Josh (01:27:29):
Even the screen you get some the transitioning doesn't
look great.
You're like this is fucked upSomething's wrong.
They pieced it together.
Goldar's mouth doesn't matchAll her little minions, don't
match Yep, and even theastronauts that discovered her
were Japanese.

Zach (01:27:44):
Yeah, the whole suit was Asian.
Anything that wasn't in AngelGrove was from the Japanese show
.
And they just shot scenes inAngel Grove with American
teenagers, and that was it.

Josh (01:27:56):
Zordon in this tube.
I didn't realize it.
He looks terrible.
He's like 360i, like it's theworst.
Can't see his mouth and thewhole.
I was like dude, we were sointo this and it's bad?

Zach (01:28:08):
Yeah, exactly, and he was just an old dude in a muumuu and
some crystals.

Josh (01:28:11):
Well, you found out.
Yeah, Later on it was somecreepy pedophile Like and he was
in a onesie, couldn't move hisarms Right Inside of this
intergalactic tube, yeah that.
But I told we were sittingthere.
I was like Kimberly was hot.

Zach (01:28:24):
And then my first crush.

Josh (01:28:26):
Yeah Well, everybody's first crush.

Zach (01:28:28):
I think a lot of people I I see I didn't really watch a
boy meets world.
I did Topanga, so I didn't.
I didn't get on the Topangatrain.
Um, I was all into uh Kimberly,so that was my first crush.
I didn't really Topanga.

Josh (01:28:44):
Didn't do anything for it, cause I like cory matthews one
had like bushy hair oh yeah yeah, or uh, I uh, topanga.
And then there was what was theother show we used to watch um,
was it even stevens?
Uh charlotte buff's like Idon't think that's not the same
era no, but um there's a boy.

Zach (01:29:04):
Boy meets, world is is.
It is the same era, I you couldmaybe say.
Now, I don't know if this isthe exact same era, I think it
was a little bit before it.
Um, saved by the bell.
Yeah, yeah, I think it's alittle pre, but but it was still
.
I think it was going on whenthey, when those things were,
yeah for sure, I think, saved bythe bell.
So I know a lot of people thatyou know.

Josh (01:29:27):
I used to watch it every morning before school.

Zach (01:29:28):
What was um?
Uh, what's her name?
Um, I'm brain farting Just lookher up, you got a thesis who's
the chick?
that was, uh, um the hottieBurnett.

Josh (01:29:40):
Yeah, zach's counterpart, yep Um.

Zach (01:29:44):
I was trying to say.

Josh (01:29:45):
Tiffany, but I don't, I don't think that's it.
Let me look Uh.

Zach (01:29:50):
Tiffany, but I don't think that's it.
Let me look.
We just don't use the internet,apparently.

Josh (01:29:52):
I know people listening and being like screaming at
their fucking phones right now,being like you idiots.

Zach (01:29:59):
Well, we had Kelly Kapowski fucking A.
This is the character.
It's Tiffany Thiessen.
Yeah, kelly Kapowski, thosewere like the three.
Every man in America was eithertheir crush was either Kelly
Kapowski those were like thethree.
Every man in America was eithertheir crush was either Kelly
Kapowski, topanga or Kimberly.
Mine was Kimberly.

Josh (01:30:19):
I'll tell you I didn't watch the movie until I was a
little older.
But Days of Confused.
Who was that brunette in thatmovie that he got to make out
with for a minute?
Hold on.

Zach (01:30:31):
I've only seen that a few times too, so it's not as fresh
in my memory.
It's so good.

Josh (01:30:36):
We always watch it.
My dad will be like that'sexactly how it was.

Zach (01:30:38):
Yeah.

Josh (01:30:39):
He said verbatim.

Zach (01:30:40):
Yeah.

Josh (01:30:40):
That movie got it.

Zach (01:30:42):
Yeah, exactly the way it was.
They've made that.
They've basically made thatmovie that a bajillion times.
That movie has been made somany times where it's like about
you know, teenagers in school,it's just about this, you know
high school life, or whatever.
Um, I mean, George Lucas, hisfirst movie before he did star
Wars was American graffiti andit was just basically here Watch

(01:31:03):
that.
Yeah, I've seen all the waythrough.
Yeah.

Josh (01:31:14):
Fast times at richmond high, like they've made that
movie ever they've made thatmovie so many.

Zach (01:31:16):
It was this girl from choosing coneheads as well.
She's a burnett.
Oh yeah, she's super hot.

Josh (01:31:18):
Uh oh, dude, I find you unacceptable.
Fast times at richmond high is,yeah, one of the best right
spicoli and all them.
That's a great movie yeah,exactly who's the?

Zach (01:31:24):
who's the chick in the bathing suit?
I'd say our general, ourgeneration's uh movie that's
like.
That's like that has got to besuper bad.

Josh (01:31:32):
I love super bad.
We saw that.

Zach (01:31:36):
That is our generation's Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

Josh (01:31:39):
Now I'm curious.
I would say what else would itbe 2007.

Zach (01:31:44):
Right, what else would it be?
I think it has to be super bad,right, super bad.

Josh (01:31:48):
For me, 2007 is my junior year of high school, so we were
in the exact I wasn't in highschool.

Zach (01:31:53):
I was.
I was already in college then,but I think it's still.
It came out, cause what wouldhave come out between 2000,.
2005, that would have been,that would have been when I was
in in high school.
That, uh, that I still think.
I still say super bad.

Josh (01:32:11):
Let me look.
There's scary movie, notanother teen movie, yeah, but it
has to be something that'sabout like high like high school
life.

Zach (01:32:17):
Bring it on.
Yeah.

Josh (01:32:21):
Let me look Like Clueless is one Wet.
Hot American Summer.

Zach (01:32:26):
No, that one's a new guy.
That's a white no.
I'm looking looking I feel likeit's the.
It's the quintessentialamerican pie too american pie
straight up there.
You go there.
It is, that's it.
So that's what it is, it'sfunny.

Josh (01:32:40):
You say that I.
I have actually bought thatwhole set unrated.
It is a comfort food becauseit's so relatable and obviously
I wasn't in that grade when thatcame out the same they are but
when I got to that grade it wasexactly like that.
We had friends that were theStiflers.
There was the gym, because Iwas more of a gym.

(01:33:01):
I relate to gym a lot.
I think there was a lot of gymsout there there was a lot of
gyms, there was a lot of us.

Zach (01:33:10):
Right out there.
It was a lot of gems, it was alot of us.
I think actually I would bejust because of your partying
past, You're totally Stifler.

Josh (01:33:14):
No, no, no, you don't think so.

Zach (01:33:15):
No, no, no, no no, no, I'm a shit break.
Yeah, 100%.
I can see that I would have tobe.
I'm also kind of gemsy, but youwere shit at school.
Yeah, 100%, he did shit atschool.
Yeah, but finally Right.
With medicine, right?

(01:33:36):
So that was, yeah, I'd saythat's who I am.
Those are.
I love those movies so much,but those I think America
Probably the one that's likeDefined the generation Kind of
like If you paired early twothousands generation, when they
were in high school, with amovie, it's my, my generation

(01:33:58):
would be American pie.
Yeah, paul Finch, paul Finch,that's it.
Yeah, it was.

Josh (01:34:02):
Finch for us.
Yeah, I remember when Garrettand I went and saw super bad in
theaters, so that way it cameout right before we got the
senior year.
I mean, it was right on timefor us and everything.
Our entire senior year wequoted that fucking movie yeah
when he was like there's onlytwo weeks left in school, they
should be stuck on my ball sackright now.

(01:34:22):
We said that every other dayyou don't want to suck dick at
fucking pussy?

Zach (01:34:25):
yeah, I'd be psyched at my dick giving abilities like that
has so many, has still some ofthe best quotable things.
I would say it has probably waymore one-liners and quotable
things than American Pie.
I would agree.

Josh (01:34:35):
And I remember Step Brothers coming out too, and we
saw it.
I mean, it was just a string ofmovies that we went and saw
that were just epic, butSuperbad still is one of the by
far best comedies ever.

Zach (01:34:48):
So when did American Pie come out?

Josh (01:34:51):
So the first one, I think, was 99.

Zach (01:34:53):
Yeah, see, it's right there, it's right there.
So if you said 99, 2000,.
Whatever 2005, and every fiveyears they come out with a high
school life movie, right?
If you would say, we'll justsay, we'll say 99, 2000 to 2005,
.
That was American Pie.
Yeah, 1999.
and then 2005 to 2010,.
That movie would be super bad.

(01:35:14):
Yeah, what's the?
What's the high school moviethat came out between 2010, 2015
.
That was like defined that fiveyears for high school kids,
kids in the high school thattime, 2000,.

Josh (01:35:26):
What five to 10?
Or 2010 to now?

Zach (01:35:28):
2015,.
2010 to 2015.
I think I might know what it is.
Let me look it up first.
I mean, I'm trying to think ofany other movie that I've seen
that probably was during thatera Project X, oh god, I love
that movie which is based on atrue story by the guy in
Australia yeah.

Josh (01:35:47):
I watched the thing about that the guy's the movie's
better than the actual dude.

Zach (01:35:50):
I think, maybe, I think probably, and also it launched
Miles Teller.
That movie launched MilesTeller.
That's when everybody kind ofbecame aware of him, because
even the I don't think the maincharacter has really done
anything that I can?

Josh (01:36:05):
Project X is on the list.

Zach (01:36:07):
I think it's got to be Project.

Josh (01:36:08):
X, which, if you've never seen the Duff, that's a great
one too.
The Duff is post-6.
When was Duff came out?
2015.

Zach (01:36:14):
Okay, so that's right on the edge there.
So the Duff was pretty good,but I think I give the edge to
Project X.

Josh (01:36:20):
So what's come All these?

Zach (01:36:24):
is going to be, project X will be the one.
What's the what's the moviethat probably defines that,
those high school years.
But those kids, uh, I work withsome Gen Z now, so I'm trying
to think what, what, what dothey quote?

Josh (01:36:49):
Hold on.
They probably went back andwatched some of our shit.

Zach (01:36:53):
Maybe it's starting to get a little bit harder.
The first ones it was easy toBecause there was a bunch of
them.

Josh (01:37:00):
Scott Pilgrim vs the World , that's 2010.

Zach (01:37:03):
That doesn't classify as a high school movie.
I mean Because, like I said,they've made this movie a
bajillion times.

Josh (01:37:09):
When did the Kissing Booth movies come out.
Do you ever watch those?
No, those are good, that's 2018.
The Kissing Booth, KissingBooth 2, and Kissing Booth 3.
Those are that's got.
I've heard of it.
Let me look it up.
Yeah, like a movie that wouldlike stand the test of time and

(01:37:31):
define a generation you knowkind of thing I've watched them
multiple times.
Life in high school, well, it'speriod, so it's.
She's the awkward girl in highschool trying and chasing her
friend's brother.

Zach (01:37:39):
That's the hot jock, and like they kind of I mean it
feels very similar to thosemovies is it one of those movies
where everybody that went tohigh school between 2015 and
2020 would have seen?
I don't know.

Josh (01:37:50):
I can't, I don't think so I can't speak for it, because I
never legit, never heard of it.
Well, it's also kind of ateenage romance.
I know it's not really usuallyyour thing.
That's why I jumped on it.

Zach (01:37:58):
There's got to be something.
I don't know I can't find one.
They finally stopped makingthat.

Josh (01:38:01):
They didn't make them as good.
Maybe because in 2015 is kindof when everything went.

Zach (01:38:15):
I mean, that's when Trump got elected in 2016 and
everything went fucking nuts.
So maybe you're right.
They have not made sense, noneof these.

Josh (01:38:26):
Project X King of Staten Island.

Zach (01:38:28):
They haven't made a high school movie.
No, what's the last high schoolmovie like mainstream big high
school movie?
Let's google that.
Or I'm on Grok and see what AIgives me.
See what's.
What's the last high schoolmovie?
Let's see yeah, cause there's.

(01:38:48):
I mean there's a wealth of them.
Yeah, but I can't think ofanything.
Let's see yeah, cause there's athere.
I mean there's a wealth of them, yeah but I can't I can't think
of anything.
Uh did mean movie, but give mesomething, Come on 10 things I
hate about you.

Josh (01:39:00):
That's a good one.
That's 99.
Yeah, dude, the Duff is theonly one I can remember from
2015.

Zach (01:39:08):
Is that the last?

Josh (01:39:09):
one.
That's the last one I remember.
Dude.
That's the last one I rememberthat I remember I'm about to
leave this up to the audience,if anybody's listening can
recall the last high schoolmovie.

Zach (01:39:20):
To me, they were looking for something between 2015 and
2020.
And I was about to ask you know, we're in 2025.
So what's 2020 to 2025?
What was the high school movie?

Josh (01:39:29):
Blockers was good.

Zach (01:39:30):
Cause I feel like they make them once every 2018, every
five years Blockers was right.

Josh (01:39:35):
That more of all, it was all female.

Zach (01:39:37):
It was about the adults.

Josh (01:39:38):
Oh no, it was about their kids being in high school.

Zach (01:39:40):
I get it, but it's not about the high school kids.

Josh (01:39:44):
The, the lead adult.
Oh well then, I think, in myopinion, every ever after
american pie, everything wasshit.
American pie, like defined anera like it's yeah, but it'd be
super bad, oh, so probably aftersuper bad for me and the
project was good.

Zach (01:39:59):
Project x was fun, but it was still.
I mean it wasn't.
I mean, yeah, you can't compareproject x to like super bad.
I mean obviously that that does.

Josh (01:40:06):
There's no comparison x makes me want to party every
time.

Zach (01:40:09):
Yes, but if, but, if you were like an alien or you were a
historian and you were goingback and being like what was
high school life like in 2012?
Oh yeah, you would watch thatmovie.
You know what I'm?
Saying that's what I'm lookingfor, like.
What is the movie so like?
I want to understand what highschool life was like, what
people perceived high schoollife to be like in 2015,.

(01:40:30):
What is?

Josh (01:40:31):
that movie I could even imagine what they're watching
now.

Zach (01:40:34):
I have no idea.

Josh (01:40:36):
I could not fucking tell you, because we're old.

Zach (01:40:40):
I have no idea, maybe they just finally stopped making
that type of movie.
Like I said, they've beenmaking the high school movie for
decades.

Josh (01:40:44):
I mean we're in an era now at schools.

Zach (01:40:48):
Did COVID break them Because?
They all did high school remote, and so they were like.
Our experience for high schoolwas like sitting in front of a
fucking laptop.

Josh (01:40:57):
It was severance, it was severance right.

Zach (01:41:00):
Severance is the highest.

Josh (01:41:02):
I don't know, dude, I have no idea, I can't, I don't know.
That's a good question.

Zach (01:41:05):
We'll leave it up to the audience All 30 of the people
that listen, or whoever, I don'tknow what our numbers are.
But yeah, let's throw that outto the audience.
If you can think of, what wasthe high school movie between
2015 and 2020.
We kind of said the Duff, somaybe we can have the Duff.
That's kind of the being on thefront end of 2015 to 2020.

(01:41:28):
I think that might qualify.
But then what was the last one?
I guess would be the question.
What was the last high schoolmovie?
Maybe it was the Duff, I don'tknow and it can't be something
obscure.
I mean, you can find somethingon Tubi or whatever, or deep
into Netflix, but I'm talkingabout theatrical release, widely
known high school movie.

(01:41:50):
What was the last one?
It's a good question.
No, but I'm going to do someindependent research.
I'll do the same.
Well, I guess we probablyshould wrap it up with wrap it
up leaving a question to theaudience.
Definitely you know like,subscribe, share, follow oh and
when I post a question.

Josh (01:42:10):
Question if you follow, please answer.
If I post a question, I didtoday like okay, what's?
Some topics like don't be shyyeah, engage nothing nothing is
off the table.
Yeah, you can ask.
You can ask about bowelmovements, any.

Zach (01:42:22):
Anything you fucking want to talk us to talk about, we
will talk about it I don't carewhat it is, we just talk about
stuff that we pull out of ourass.
Yeah, so you know, maybe everyonce in a while we would talk
about something that's pulledout of your ass.

Josh (01:42:33):
If you want to talk about toys, I don't give a fuck, just
send it, we'll talk about it.
And there's nothing off thetable.

Zach (01:42:38):
Yeah, I mean yeah.

Josh (01:42:43):
I mean, we'll make it.
The whole show calls.
Yeah, we can.
If you'd like to call in, ifyou'd like for us to reach out
to you and talk on the show.

Zach (01:42:51):
Yeah, even if we know you're not.
If you just sit up and be likeI want to be a part of the show,
I'm actually, we're just done,we're just pulling.
We're coming up with this likein real time, this idea, and, uh
, yeah, I kind of like this,like if you were like, hey, I
want to like call in because Igot a bone to pick or I got a
question or I want to commentabout something you guys said in
the past or whatever.
You know, hit us up on thesocials and we'll coordinate and

(01:43:14):
get you in on, you can.

Josh (01:43:16):
We need an Instagram call.

Zach (01:43:17):
Yep, instagram's got a phone.
We can express your grievance.

Josh (01:43:20):
Or if you have a show you'd recommend to us, or if we
bring something up that you'dlike to flesh out from the
previous episode, dude.
I'm all about it from theprevious episode.
Dude, I'm all about it.
Yeah, we'll get you on the spot.

Zach (01:43:28):
If you want to call in and call us retards, that's fine
too I don't care, I'm stillwaiting for that first hate
comment.
This hasn't happened 73episodes and I haven't got the
hate comment.
It's coming.

Josh (01:43:38):
I think your teacher episodes are hot.
Your teacher episodes are hot.

Zach (01:43:50):
Yeah, transition into a little bit more.
You know, media andentertainment, pop culture focus
, so maybe those are going to befarther and few between my hot
takes.

Josh (01:43:54):
Maybe we need to swing back in and try to piss people
off Exactly.

Zach (01:43:57):
Haven't done in a while.

Josh (01:43:58):
Yeah, but yeah, let's do that.
Please, let us know.

Zach (01:44:02):
All right, Well, thanks for listening everybody Later
Peace.

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