#74 - Hot Privilege - The Infinite Weekend Podcast

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Zach (00:02):
All right, we're back.
Episode 74, Infinite WeekendPodcast Zach and Josh.
We're going to talk about Godknows what.
You just can't let the windtake us.
You know, mostly movies, tv,video games, pop culture type
stuff With a little dick humorin there, a little adulting.
Yeah, you know how it is Right,Things that piss us off, which

(00:22):
I guess we're going to make thislike a staple of the episode of
the show.
But we're going to kind ofstart off at the top with things
we liked, things we watchedthis week, one thing we hated or
didn't like.
I don't always hate everythingthat I watch.
I try not to find things that Ihate to watch.

Josh (00:42):
And then one thing we liked If it's got terrible
reviews or somebody said it wasreally terrible, I'll go in just
to see if it really is, see ifit's that bad I see.
I see people are full of shit.

Zach (00:50):
I think, uh, I think I'm the other way around.
I'm like, uh, I don't want towatch.
I'm not going to go watch it tofind out if it's as bad as
everybody says it is.
That's just not me.
I will, but you will, it's notme, I mean.

Josh (01:11):
I don't want to waste my time.
It's terrible.
If it's shitty within like 30minutes, I'll pull out.
I'm out.

Zach (01:16):
But sometimes I'll stick it out just to see, do you do
this I, if I'm trying to findsomething to watch, like I guess
you just you'll just watchsomething that you know, like
you'll watch a lot of old schoolstuff, or you'll watch
something that probably sucksand you won't find out if it's
that bad.
Whatever.
I'm so like I'm trying to everytime I I go into streaming apps
to try to find something.

(01:37):
I'm always trying to find likethe best thing that I could
possibly watch at that moment.
Does that make sense?
And so I'll spend a fuckinghour going through all the apps
trying to find something.

Josh (01:49):
I'm like oh, that's pretty good, but I think I can find
something better.
You mean like an in-the-momentkind of thing.

Zach (01:52):
Yeah, like something that's got a tickle, that's
where I'll waste time and theneventually I get to a point
where I'm just like you know anhour's a little long there and
you're just like I guess I'mjust not gonna watch anything.

Josh (02:09):
It's kind of like you find the right.
You're trying to write find theright good video to, yeah right
, it's like trying to find theright porno and you're looking
at 30 minutes later and I don'teven want to draw anyone, you
already lean up.
You're like I'm not even thisisn't.
I don't even want to do thisanymore I don't think I actually
wanted to do this.
You know, beginning exactly.
It's just like that.

Zach (02:19):
You're on page, you know 187 and you're just like well,
this is not at this point.

Josh (02:22):
You're just checking out names.
You're like I'm not even right.
Well, I'm here anymore yeah,yeah, right exactly yeah, no, I
mean there's there's times thatI look like it's got to be
something for that particularmoment, or I'll start one like
now this isn't hit right andI'll turn it off because the
next one I'm like I don't knowif I want to watch this I try to
I'll have like a small littlelike bag of films or shows that

(02:43):
are comfort food.
They'll just put on Forrest Gumpor any of those type of films.
And sometimes I'll start thoseand be like, yeah, I don't need
this, I'm all right.
I put on Happy Gilmore theother day just to have in the
background.

Zach (02:54):
Yeah, and sometimes.
Well see, I just don't do thata lot anymore.
I used to have whenever live TVwas a thing.

Josh (03:11):
I just don't know anybody that watches live TV anymore.
You know what I mean.
Besides sports, we had an oldcable box that just got taken
out a couple days ago.

Zach (03:15):
It had live TV on it.

Josh (03:16):
It's all medical commercials.

Zach (03:18):
It's awful, it's just all just commercials and just a
bunch of garbage like network TVcrap you don't care to watch or
reruns a mess, but I guesswhenever live TV was in its
heyday, yeah, I could just havesomething in the background.

Josh (03:33):
You get sucked into watching a movie that you've
seen 100 times just because it'son and, if you notice it,
instead of it being a runtime ofan hour 45, because of the
commercials, it's three hours.

Zach (03:42):
Yeah, exactly right, exactly right.
So because of the commercialsit's three hours.
Yeah, exactly right, exactlyright.
So now I guess that's aninteresting change I now just
kind of realized is that there'smovies that you've seen 100
times, because they've reallybeen on 100 times, and every
time they're on, you watch themLike.
Forrest Gump is one of thosethat you just mentioned so if
it's like Shawshank Redemption.
If it's on, I'm watching it.
You know what I mean, but now Ihave to literally go seek it

(04:05):
out, yeah, so I'm watching thosetypes of movies less, and less.

Josh (04:10):
Yep Real Goods is a good app for that, like R-E-E-L.

Zach (04:17):
It's a hub where you can search and it would put in what
you're subscribed to, but you'restill searching for something.
You are, but it's a littlefaster.

Josh (04:21):
It's narrowed down quicker , yeah and I tend to.

Zach (04:24):
If I'm doing something else, I don't generally have the
TV on, just like in thebackground, yeah you know.
So it's not like I'm doingsomething else.
I'm working on my phone orcleaning the house, whatever,
and I got like the TV on andthen I just like catch something
.
I just don't the TV's offunless I'm committed to watching
something on the TV.
So that's just how I had arealization.

(04:46):
I wonder if that's.
You know these movies that usedto be you know something you'd
see several times.
But I mean there are peoplethat I know that they'll
re-watch, like the Office, everyyear or something.

Josh (04:59):
Yeah, we were like that for a while, I mean, we did
every, you know what I meanEvery year the Friends.

Zach (05:03):
The Office Stuff like that .

Josh (05:04):
Because there's not really anything else that bites quite
like those shows did yeah.
And then, of course, thenostalgic part of it kind of
makes you I don't know.
It feels like a home I don'tknow there's a comfort to it.

Zach (05:20):
Well, I guess we could talk about things.
Let's do the um things.
We watched this week.
One thing we liked, one thingwe didn't.
Um, I guess, uh, I'll start um,and I kind of going back and
forth, I didn't really watchanything.
I mean, I didn't really watchanything that was actually great
, besides stuff that we've allright solo leveling.
I love that, love that anime.

Josh (05:41):
It's fantastic, so that would probably be my one thing.

Zach (05:44):
and they finally the part where I'm at, because I started
watching the dub and so I've gotto stick with the dub.
I can't switch back and forthto the Japanese, and also I hate
reading subtitles because Ifeel like it takes away from
watching the action, especiallya fast-paced anime like that.
You can't turn away, you can'tlook away Because you'll miss it
, you'll miss shit.
So, and you know, I want to getthe full um experience of the.

(06:06):
You know the dialogue and thesound and the and the visuals
and everything.
So I I've got to watch it andbe able to hear it.
Yeah, if I don't know what thefuck they're saying, then I may
lose some things you know, andso I like to get the full
experience when I'm watching ananime or anything, and so I
don't.
I generally don't like to readanything in subtitles.
Now, there are some movies outthere that I would watch or TV

(06:26):
shows Pan's Labyrinth, yeah butthey're not like super
fast-paced.
It's not like you're going tomiss anything by reading
subtitles necessarily.
Yeah, but things that are likesuper fast-paced, like a lot of
animes are, you just can't do it.
And I know there's a bunch ofpurists out there be like, oh

(06:50):
you gotta watch the japanese.

Josh (06:51):
like fuck you I don't speak japanese.
I don't speak japanese, I can't.
I don't know if I, if I lookaway, contrary to popular
opinion, I don't speak japanese,but you're not.
Yeah, right if you.
If I look away and I miss adialogue, if I miss and I'm like
, well, fuck, I don't know whatI gotta when they're screaming
and fighting.
I don't care, because it soundscool, right?
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
But if there's like importantconversations happening I have.

Zach (07:05):
If I don't read it, dude, I'm fuck we we joked about that
last time we were gaming withthe boys.
We were like there's, there'stwo voices in all japanese.
Yeah, there's two voices, atleast for the, the, the male
characters, or maybe you couldsay, I don't know, the female
too.
There's, but for the malecharacters there's two voices.
It's either like high pacedsounds, like he's 12, whatever,

(07:26):
and then there's that was crunkit's true, though.

Josh (07:33):
It's true though and the females have theirs, and then
high pitched, which?

Zach (07:41):
you know, the low level voice for the female character
sounds like they're trying toseduce you, which the entire
Pretty much is like theseductress-like voice.
And then the other ones theysound like they're Pikachu.

Josh (07:53):
I'm pretty sure every anime is made by a male.

Zach (07:56):
Probably.

Josh (07:57):
Because the females and even the dudes, everyone looks
absolutely incredible.

Zach (07:59):
Yes, even the women that are in anime that probably make
anime are actually horned up12-year-old boys on that side.

Josh (08:07):
I don't know, dude, because all the female
proportions are like perfect.
Yes.

Zach (08:11):
They know how to draw some titties, okay, yeah.

Josh (08:14):
I mean, there's even anime you can look up.
There's animes that areemphasized on that.
Yeah, Body movement, the wholething, dude bouncing, it's like
that Theo Vaughn little clipwhere he's talking about.

Zach (08:26):
He says you know they didn't have.
He's talking about how theydidn't have porn growing up,
whatever, but they had this kidthat he could draw a pussy.
Yeah, he could draw it and hewas like he charged you $4.
And then he's like $4?
.
And Joe Rose was like $4?
.
He's like you pay $8.

Josh (08:42):
I love Theo Vaughn so much .
He just had Adam.
Is it Adam Levine?

Zach (08:47):
Is that comedian's name Levine, the one that does?
He was in WorkaholicsWorkaholics, yeah, he was just
on and those two are ridiculous.
Oh yeah.

Josh (08:53):
I love that.
Yeah, theo's a cool dude man.

Zach (08:56):
Oh, yeah, yep.
But anyway, yeah, so the thing Iliked was solo leveling the
episode specifically.
like I said, I'm on the dub, soI'm like two episodes behind,
like everybody else, two orthree, and of course, I don't
read the manga either, so I'mlike the manga is probably
already.
However, many?

Josh (09:15):
Is it manga or manga?
I've heard manga.

Zach (09:18):
I've heard manga.

Josh (09:19):
I think you have to say it like that who gives a shit?
It's manga.
You have to say it like thatComic book.

Zach (09:24):
Okay, thank you.
That's what it is that you readbackwards apparently.

Josh (09:29):
I have some.
It sucks, you have to get usedto it.
It's odd, I have Demon Slayer.

Zach (09:33):
Yeah, it's odd, you read it backwards and also like right
to left.

Josh (09:37):
It gives you little instructions in the beginning.

Zach (09:45):
I'm like, put it the other way, yeah right, this is like a
flex to make us look stupidwhen we get it, I get it.
I guess that's how they readJapanese, I don't know, Fuck.
But um, um, what's somethingyou didn't like.
But anyway, what I was saying,the episode I watched was,
whenever the it was the, the Sranks were fighting the fucking
episode.
So I would say that I'm gonnamake that my pick for thing, uh,
thing that I like this week,that I watched, thing that I did

(10:07):
not like.
I'm actually gonna do it kindof a kind of a twofer, because I
don't want to talk about one,but since I did one as an anime
that I liked, the one that Ididn't like, uh, and I just
started it this week because itwas on it's, you know, one of
the most popular ones.
It's like on simulcast rightnow and so not everybody's

(10:27):
talking about it, but it's upthere.
It's a popular one calledShangri-La Frontier and it's.
Never heard of it.
Don't like it.
It's boring.
Okay, it's weird.
It's basic premise is it's youknow, dude's playing a VR game,
but he's used to usually playinglike trashy games and so he's
like good at like shit games, Iguess, and this is.

(10:47):
He finally ends up playing likea triple A title and it's like
so much better and he's justlike smoking.
He's just playing through itand that's basically.
It's quirky, it's weird, it'skind of comedy-esque, but
there's no real stakes to it,because you're just basically
watching a guy play a VR game.

Josh (11:02):
Yeah, man.

Zach (11:03):
And it's not like other ones like I've watched, like
Sword Art Online is one that youactually, when they went in to
play it, like the designer ofthe game like made it to where
you couldn't get out and if yougot killed in the game then the
headset would like kill you.
That seems to be a populargenre, like shit, like that it's
called.
The popular genre is calledIsakai, I think is what it's

(11:24):
called, but it's basically likea person that either dies or
gets transported dies andreincarnated or gets transported
to another world Like Konosuba,yes, and that guy died.

Josh (11:35):
He got to a video game world Pretty much, and so that's
.

Zach (11:40):
That's a whole genre Over Overlord.
There's a bajillion of them andthis is basically one of those,
but they don't get sucked intoit.
You're just watching normalpeople play a game.
It's just weird.
I'm not into it.
It was kind of sucky.
I didn't like it.
So I'll make that my anime.
But my real thing I watchedthat I did not like was Kraven.

(12:00):
I told you it was shitty.
I don't think it was, I'll behonest.

Josh (12:04):
I didn't give it a, I said what I had said, I think.

Zach (12:07):
I enjoyed it more than Electric State.
I'll be honest, I just couldnot get into Electric State.
I knew you wouldn't.
I knew as soon as.

Josh (12:17):
I started it.
I was like he's going to hatethis I knew.

Zach (12:21):
But Kraven, I mean I could take it for what it was.
It was a B C rated.
It was like a superhero moviethat they made before MCU came
out.

Josh (12:33):
It was better than Morbius , better than Morbius, but it's
not as bad as Green Lantern.
It wasn't as good as Venom.

Zach (12:39):
It was just kind of there.
The plot didn't make a wholelot of sense.
I wasn't really sure what knowwhat was happening with the,
with rhino and, and obviouslythere's a you know an issue with
craven and his dad and the, thebrother, little brother, and it
was just.
It was a very generic I would.

Josh (12:53):
I would rather story been craven just be a supporting
character in another marvelmovie, something like that
behind the scenes kind of thingyes, um, but as far as, like, I
think you're right the actionset pieces were head cool.
It was cool the way he fought.

Zach (13:07):
I do like Aaron Taylor Johnson.
There was nothing wrong withhis performance really, I think
he.
I think obviously the scriptand the dialogue worked well,
correct.
I didn't understand why thefuck they even had the lawyer
chick in there.

Josh (13:21):
She served no purpose whatsoever she's an actual
character in Marvel that aidshim.
She served no purpose In that.
No, in the comics obviously,yes, she would.
She was cool.
She was like a voodoo priestessin the comics, sure.

Zach (13:34):
Besides giving him the vial, whatever anybody could
have done that In the filmthere's no In the movie.
after initially giving him theserum when he got attacked by
the lion or whatever and savedhis life, after that time jumps
16 years later.
She was a lawyer and she wastrying to throw a bunch of bad

(13:57):
guys in jail and he was justbasically trying to kill them
and he was like I got this list.
And she was like no, I can't dothat, I'm not going to help you
.
But then she helps him in theend, but she doesn't.
She just basically her, sheonly served.
The only reason she was there,from what I can understand in
the script or the plot, was togive him the the serum the first

(14:17):
time and then the second timeshe gave it to him again yeah,
otherwise she was completely Idon't know dude, I think they
were just like grabbing Justgrabbing
for stuff Pretty much.
I think they just did not.
I don't know.
They did not know where to gowith that.
I think you're right.
The character Craven would havebeen better served as not the
main focus of the movie, butanti-hero in another movie.

(14:42):
Correct, I agree, agreed, yeah,like they really should have
just brought him along inSpider-Man.
You didn't need to have aseparate movie.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, whatever, but otherwise,you know it's not terrible.
If I had to give it a rating,I'd give it a six.

Josh (14:57):
That's what I gave it.
I gave it a five and a half tosix was my range.

Zach (15:01):
So yeah, right there, you know I wasn't bored to tears.

Josh (15:04):
It's doing really well on streaming.
Yeah, like audiences, it's gota great audience score.

Zach (15:09):
Yeah, it's not a movie for theaters, which they're all
struggling anyway, but yes, ifit came out like direct to
Disney Plus or Netflix orwhatever the fuck.

Josh (15:19):
Yeah, you also don't have to be invested in any other
marvel substance to know to knowanything exactly, right, so so
that for what it is.

Zach (15:26):
Uh, it was enjoyable.
Yeah, it's a popcorn flick.
Yeah, but it was you know,something I you know I'll say I
didn't like because it wasn'tthat great yeah, well, anything
under anything near five andover six is not great and I
guess I think that's kind of myskills like if it's uh, if it's
under a seven, and then I quote,didn't like it.

Josh (15:43):
That's how I do it, but if it's over a 7, then I did like
it Right.
I'm pretty rare for me to givea 10.
That's got to be like yeah, I'mlike you.
Very few movies get the 10.
If it's lower than a 6, I'mlike.

Zach (15:54):
And also I don't typically pick things that I absolutely
hate, that are like you know.
Oh okay, I think I'll probablylike this Very few times does a
movie surprise me where it'sworse than I thought it was
going to be.

Josh (16:10):
Yeah.

Zach (16:11):
Well, here's a recent exception Rebel Moon.
I was expecting that to beserviceable.
I thought it was going to be alot like what was the other Zack
Snyder movie that kind ofcritics hated, but we like.

Josh (16:27):
Oh you're talking about.
It's got the hot chicks in itfighting.
I just started watching thatagain two weeks ago.
God dang it my brain.
Hold on, hold on.
Just let it settle for a minute.
Let it simmer, just give it onesec, let it rest.
Sucker Punch, sucker Punch.

Zach (16:41):
Thank you Got it.
It's a good movie, right.
So I thought it was going to bekind of like in that kind of
realm to where it was crazyaction, highly stylized, you
know, really world building,blah, blah, blah, that kind of
stuff, but kind of ridiculous.
It was just bad, bad.

Josh (17:00):
Rebel Moon is shit.
Rebel Moon was awful.
I gave it a three.
It was an awful movie.
Awful Part one and two together.

Zach (17:07):
Both of them they were.
I don't know which one wasworse, one or two, I think
they're equally both as shittyProbably two.

Josh (17:12):
I think two is probably worse.
I hated it.
I don't know.

Zach (17:17):
The only thing that two had a leg up on was they didn't
have Charlie Hunnam in it.

Josh (17:22):
Well, I like Charlie Hunnam in the beginning, but
he's terrible.

Zach (17:25):
I liked him for a little bit.

Josh (17:26):
And then he yeah, I don't know, dude, I hate that movie, I
hate that fucking movie.

Zach (17:31):
So that's an exception where.

Josh (17:32):
I watch something going in like, oh, this is probably
going to be fun, but it wasterrible.
It's worse than Green LanternGreen.

Zach (17:37):
Lantern is one of those where you're like oh, I saw that
in theaters.
Yeah, it's like, oh, this isgoing to be cool.
But then whenever an old dudehas the big head and he's like,
well, they brought him back.
Yeah, I know.

Josh (17:49):
And apparently he's awesome.
Apparently he's awesome, helooks, I've seen him.
I've seen set stills and stuff.

Zach (17:55):
In what he's in the new.

Josh (17:57):
Hulk, or the new, excuse me, the new Captain America
movie?
No movie, no different.
That's a different character.
Oh, this is dc.
Yeah, different character, butthey, but they, basically, they,
basically.

Zach (18:10):
That's one of them, that's one like well, we're not going
to copy you, but similarabilities okay, which I mean you
know marvel and dc been doingthat to each other for?

Josh (18:13):
yeah, because that's that's the dude that that shit
leaked in when he was helpingthe abominable.
Okay, yeah, that was from the,the edward norton sorry nerds,
sorry, I don't fucking edwardnorton me, edward Norton, edward
Norton Hulk.

Zach (18:25):
Yeah, okay, he was in that one and you remember he had
some of that shit drip on hishead.
What was that dude?
Parallax was the fucking shitmonster and it just looked
terrible.

Josh (18:33):
Which I will say universally, because I went on
some Reddit and looked about howshitty that movie is.
It has one of the dopesttransformations at the end when
dude takes the yellow ring.
What's that guy's name he takes?
He was like all end, all be all.
Leader of the Lanterns.

Zach (18:49):
Oh, and then he puts, not Sinestro.
Not Sinestro, that's fuckingyou know, that's a, it's
something, it's something closeto that.
Sinestro's in the.
That's the, that's the dudefrom GI.

Josh (18:59):
Joe, I always forget.
I always forget that I have afucking internet.

Zach (19:02):
Yeah, I know, hold on Transformation.

Josh (19:07):
No, he puts on the yellow, the yellow ring.
That was the whole thing withParthas.
It was another lantern thattook the yellow Yep yeah.

Zach (19:17):
Yeah, he's a.
It was.
What was that guy's name?
Strong, not Marcus Strong, yeah.

Josh (19:25):
Sinestro, I was right, it Not Marcus.

Zach (19:25):
Strong.
Yeah, it's Sinestro.

Josh (19:27):
I was right, it is Sinestro.
Yeah, I was right.
Why am I thinking that I'm sosmart?

Zach (19:30):
Oh, it's.
Destro is the dude from GI Joe.

Josh (19:33):
Deathstroke.
Is that what you just said?

Zach (19:34):
Destro, oh Destro.
Yes, it is.
They're all too similar.
Fuck man yeah okay, Sinestro.
No, I'm done with that he hadlike a transformation.

Josh (19:44):
When he put the yellow ring on his suit changed.

Zach (19:47):
That whole bit was awesome .

Josh (19:49):
And then the whole rest of the movie was fucking terrible,
but that was a really coollittle bit Because that
character was really.
I liked him, yeah, but thatmovie was shit though.
But anyways, I'm getting offthat it was terrible.

Zach (19:59):
But that's an example, one where you go into it.
You're thinking like, oh, thisis going to be like Fantastic
Four, you know from the early2000s.
You know it's like oh, this isgoing to be cool.
It's going to be like that andit ended up being worse.
It was terrible, very few timesdo I go and watch a movie and
it's actually worse than Ithought it was going to be.
You know, because I have goodtaste.

(20:21):
I mean, I guess it's my fuckingturn.
I guess it's my turn now, butyeah, so All right, dang bro,
get in there.

Josh (20:28):
This better be fucking good.
It's not.
No, I'm just picking.
You can keep adding, no goahead.

Zach (20:33):
No, that's it.
No, really, that was my.
You know we went off on atangent but that was my two.
Thing I didn't like was I kindof did a twofer.
You know the Shangri-La twofersare fine and Craven and thing I
did was a little informative.

Josh (20:48):
Solo leveling I never heard of that show whatever
episode it was.
I'm gonna do that.
When you started with somethingyou liked, right, yeah, I'm
gonna start with something Ididn't like, okay, so I it's
kind of like a I gave it thesame you did.
Like it's an older movie, it'sfrom 1986.
You ever seen Troll Pieces?
Okay, so I went back andwatched that.

(21:09):
I've been on this tear latelyabout older, older movies.

Zach (21:12):
I don't know why.

Josh (21:13):
Probably because there's nothing really like substantial
out right now that.

Zach (21:16):
I'm super psyched about this.

Josh (21:17):
One's supposed to be pretty good, though, with some
good shit um so I went back andwatched a few like okay, here's
what I didn't like critters,they're seeing critters.
Oh yeah, it's fucking terrible.
Yeah, I can, I can respect someof the quirkiness of it for its
time and like some of the the80s vibe of it, but it is a
terrible movie and I've neverseen it all the way through.

(21:40):
It's fucking terrible.
These little dudes talk, theselittle like fur critters, oh
yeah, and they send in thebounty hunters to come after
them that have like no face butthen like morph their face on
the spot.
It's fucking cool, um, but no,it's.

Zach (21:53):
It's not good for for that era so that's what you didn't
like, that's what I didn't like.

Josh (21:57):
Yeah, I didn't because I was bouncing around, because I
watched a documentary on moviemonsters, like how they were
created, like the whole, likeall the big time movies from the
Gremlins it was all aboutcreature design Gremlins,
critters, hellboy, all thosemovies.
It was like well, that's whereI pulled some movies from to go

(22:18):
watch, because I was like, well,if I can remember Critters, let
me check that out.
There's like four of them.
Yeah, it's not good, I'm notgonna go back and watch the
others.

Zach (22:26):
Um, it's pretty, is back in the 80s, especially like uh,
one of those gremlins is better,one of those.
Uh, I don't know, I don't evencan you classify it as horror,
because it's not even.
It's like campy horror, rightyeah, it's like a b those campy
horror movies in the eighties,like, were any of them good?

Josh (22:45):
Like you know, really uh you know, like I couldn't get
into the Friday the 13th, shit Icouldn't get into the point of
those movies are that they arebad.

Zach (22:55):

Josh (22:56):
Yeah, so critters is from 86.

Zach (22:58):
It's and then there's critters too.

Josh (23:01):
Before my, before my time.
But something I did watch thatI did like was Creepshow you
ever watch.

Zach (23:05):
Creepshow Stephen King.
No, I am not a huge, I'll putthis out here Not the biggest
Stephen King guy.

Josh (23:12):
I like Stephen King, he's got some stuff.

Zach (23:15):
He's got some things that are good.
Obviously, you know prolificwriter but I love it, but
Creepshow 2.
He's also.
He's like Tim Burton to me he'shit or miss.
Well, he doesn't he doesn'tdirect, true, but I'm saying
just his stories in general thatare trans over to film, like
the yes and the thing when theyget trans, like maybe they're

(23:38):
better as books and you know me,I don't really read fiction.

Josh (23:40):
Yeah.

Zach (23:40):
That's what.
Yeah, so you know, obviouslyprobably better.
As books man, everybody says,oh, the book's so much better,
you know, whatever, jerk off, um.
But uh, when they translateover to movies, I just don't.
I don't, they're, they're 50,50, they're hit or miss for me.
Yeah, like the dark tower wasweird.

Josh (23:57):
Well, that was, yeah, I don't know what they, but then
shining is fucking awesome yeah,sorry, I was about to get on a
tear about the dark.
I, like you know, what I mean,I like Stephen King books.
It fucking great.

Zach (24:07):
Yeah, you know what I mean .
So he's hit or miss for me.

Josh (24:10):
You're like triggering me, I know, cause I love all.
Let's do an hour of that.

Zach (24:17):
Cause I watched that I've watched too much and they rename
the podcast Zach Shits onThings Josh Likes.
Yeah, and it would be great.

Josh (24:26):
That's what sucks about.
The Dark Tower is like it's twobooks.
It's the first one and secondone.

Zach (24:32):
We should make that a segment.

Josh (24:33):
You could do it.
Yeah, I mean, people listen tothe show.
They know that I shit on stuff.
You're like I fucking hate it.
I'm I try to convince you andyou're like, no, yeah, still
fucking hate it.

Zach (24:43):
Here's all the reasons why you're wrong.

Josh (24:44):
I hate napping.
That was one of our things,yeah, so it's fine, yeah that's
true.
Uh, I forgot completely what Iwas saying.
Oh things, I like things.

Zach (24:52):
Yeah yeah, that's just old school, you did what you didn't
like, like what you watchedthis week that you liked.

Josh (25:01):
Cause you just triggered, I watched.
I went back and watched thenineties uh it movie.

Zach (25:05):
Okay so the straight.

Josh (25:07):
It was the TV movie.
Yeah, it came out.
It was split on two VHS tapes.
I went back and watched it andit's one of those two, like you
said earlier, where you look fora movie like to fall back on If
you're like at the moment.
So I'm just gonna put somethingon while I look, and I just
fell onto that and I watched thewhole thing with tim curry.
Yeah, dude, oh it's, it's, Idon't know, man, like I remember

(25:29):
watching it as a kid.
It was a garrett's house firsttime I ever watched it.
He had the two split vhs and Iwatched it and I was like
there's something about this,it's like.
And then two years ago Iactually read the book, which is
fucking crazy.
I read it then audiobooked itas well, but it's like 41 hours
of an audiobook.
It's why I think he was justhigh during the every time he

(25:49):
writes a book, because some ofthe shit he puts like when you
watch the movie you're just likethis is out of someone's
fucking nightmare.
The whole being the entity ofthe whole thing, is just nuts.
And then the, of course, I likethe other ones where bill
scarred came in and playsPennywise Well, and then
Pennywise, that is, a creaturefrom the same dimension as the

(26:11):
Dark Tower.
Yeah, so Derry Maine is featuredin a lot of his books.
But yeah, it's all the samerealm.
You can really get on terror.
I've done it before for hours.
He creates the world-buildingpart.
It's really cool.
That's something I watched, Ireally liked.
I enjoyed it a lot.
There's nothing really new out.
I'll catch up on Soul Levelingseason finale tomorrow and talk
about it next week and then youcan get a chance yeah or we can

(26:33):
wait it comes out on the dub,but no, that's that's all I
really need when we do that,probably need to wait until a
couple weeks for want to be ableto like both.

Zach (26:41):
Yeah, cause it's really get into it.

Josh (26:43):
Um, that's what I watched I liked, other than that.
Like there's nothing reallyseverance is over.
Um, I've just been like I'lltake you know fine stuff.
Like I've been really hardcoreon Tubi.
Do you have Tubi?
So I didn't know it.
But Tubi is owned by Fox.
It is.
You would think it'sindependent, but I didn't know
it, because one night I gotbored and I was like who owns
this?
And it pulled it.

(27:04):
And Fox owns Tubi.
They bought it for $400 millionyears ago.
I think it was 2013 or 14.
They bought it.
I might be wrong, so if onlythe fact checks me.
Fuck you, yeah, but didn'tDisney buy Fox?
I don't know how true that is.

Zach (27:27):
I don't know how true that is, because what I found out
was is that someone offered tobuy Tubi from Fox for like $2
billion and they said, no, well,it could be like where Disney
will buy and Disney does.
Before, when they bought, Ithink when they bought ABC.
There's like or actually Ithink it was when they bought
Fox, since they have ESPN, foxSports broke off and it's not
part of that, it's their ownthing or something like that.

Josh (27:47):
I don't know all the fucking merger and acquisition
details.

Zach (27:50):
But you know what I mean.
Disney would make sense for themto own ESPN and Fox Sports.
Yeah, of course.
When they bought Fox, uppercaseFox Fox.

Josh (28:00):
Sports didn't come with it .
But if you don't have Tubi, youshould get it.
It's free.
It does have ads.
You cannot get a premium, it'sjust it looks.
And you can also do atraditional guide.
You can do live TV Like I geton because I'm 100 and I have
stimulation in the background.
I'll put on like the JohnnyCarson show and it's on 24-7 in
the background yeah dude yeah.

Zach (28:23):
Laugh all you want.
You're not 100 because you needto watch something on the old
stations.

Josh (28:27):
You're 100 because you're watching Johnny Carson.
I watched Johnny Carson andthen Three Stooges was on there
too, but I'll have Johnny Carsonin the background because I
like the old actor interviews,because he's like the dude, like
the late night dude at the time.
Yeah, he's OG and it's funny togo back and watch episodes like
76, 77.
The jokes still hit.
Some of it's pretty funny, butit's weird seeing what's

(28:49):
happening during that time inthe world and the jokes make you
like that wasn't that funny.
And then you have to look upand be like, oh, that's kind of
fucked up.
But they also have like.
The mecca for me was they haveMystery Science Theater 3000
channel.
It fucking streams all day.
And then, because I love thatshow, and then I found out on
YouTube has its own channel andthey'll live stream the movies

(29:10):
and stuff all day, so I'll havethat on the background for hours
.
Yeah, I fucking love that show.
If you've never watched it, youguys have to, Because if the
premise is just they, it's gotlike.
It was a comedian that wrote itand created the show and it
started really rough in thebeginning but we picked up some
pace.
I think it was on for like 13seasons and it kind of fizzled.
They kind of lost.
Now they do like a Patreon, tryto get funding to keep it going

(29:32):
, to bring it back.

Zach (29:36):
But yeah, it's a dude.
That's like it's basically thetwo old dude Muppets.

Josh (29:38):
Well, it's two Muppets and a dude that he gets, but he's
out to watch a movie yeah, andthey get captured and they're
like hey, we're gonna send youshitty movies and monitor your
brain, like it's got a wholeintro song and then it's yeah,
they come into an old, shittyeither black and white or old
movies that are terrible andthere's little like front row
seats at a theater and you seethem and they just.

(30:00):
Netflix did two seasons of anupdated version of it with Pat
Oswald and another guy that werein it too, and I recommend
anyone watching it.
It's one of my favorite shows,tubi's great.

Zach (30:11):
I've never really sat down and really watched a whole
episode of Mystery ScienceTheater.
It's cool.

Josh (30:16):
Yeah, Tubi is, I guess I don't know.
We're on there a lot, I'm onthere a lot.
It's got all kinds of shows howit's got all kinds of show how
it's made antiques roadshows.

Zach (30:23):
We watch that a lot because I don't even know if I
can handle another streamingchannel.
Yeah, I know, but like there'sjust I just told you like I'll,
if I can't find the perfectthing, don't get it because
there's so much shit.

Josh (30:35):
It has more content than netflix and it's all free.
They have like all the 90sstuff, all those old movies I
was talking about.
They got shit.
I'll like be just like you doand I'll be like that looks kind
of fucked up and I'll put thaton Like.
One of them was from the 90s,some girl, it was about a pet
store that had alien pets.
Okay, let me pull it up,because maybe you've seen it,

(30:56):
because I had a list of justrandom shit to watch so I could
either talk shit about it orbring it up.
You don't need this app.
Don't do this.
No, it'd be too much.
Do you remember Dragon World,the legend continues.
You remember?

Zach (31:12):
that shit.
Dragon World Let me see it'sdoing just the title stuff right
now.
Give me a good screenshot.
Here you go.

Josh (31:24):
We do not own this, by the way, so don't get us, it's not
copyright.

Zach (31:32):
That's such a weird.
Did you hear that Promise totake care of it?
Nah, dude, I don't recognizethis shit at all.
Look how excited that kid.

Josh (31:41):
Look at this freak.

Zach (31:42):
Oh wait, hold up, I think I do.
We've all seen this dude.

Josh (31:45):
Look how excited that kid is.
Look at this freak.
Oh wait, Hold up.
I think I do.

Zach (31:49):
We've all seen this dude.
Look at this fucking guy.
Yes, hold up, it's a CG dragonright there.
Yes, right.
Well, no, it's a costume.
I just looked at him so faraway oh you're fine, no, keep it
up to.
I just looked so far away ohyou're fine.
No, keep it up to the mic sopeople can hear.

(32:09):
I'm pretty sure you've seenthis Dragon.
World I've seen this I'm prettysure.
Dude, this is like in the farrecesses of my mind.
Yeah, dude.
That I probably saw one time andthen I haven't yeah when he was
like dancing around in thefucking Welcome.
In the meadow with that fuckingdragon thing.

Josh (32:31):
I like how he?
Do you hear what he said,though he was like he promised
to take care of it, like whywould he not take care of it?
I know, I think when you seethose fucking movies where the
kid gets upset, I don't know howto do this, like if someone
brought me some clips of thatpost on the page don't worry, no
problem.
Like if somebody brought me afucking dragon, I would take.
Why would I not?

Zach (32:48):
take care of it.
What I mean, I don't know.

Josh (32:50):
Now I'm curious and there's this shit where the fuck
did the dragon come from?
Pet shop?
Yes, okay, disguised aliens setup a pet shop in a dusty
arizona town.
I've I remember that one.

Zach (33:00):
Here's one that was also about aliens.
That's a little obscure movie.
Batteries Not Included.
Oh, it's a great movie.

Josh (33:07):
Fucking great yeah dude.

Zach (33:09):
The aliens are like actually little flying saucers.
What's that?
Little robots, what's that?
Was it Short Circuit?
Was the one Short Circuit?

Josh (33:15):
Johnny Five, I cried in it .

Zach (33:16):
I call my fucking, my Roomba.
I call him.

Josh (33:19):
Johnny Five.
I cried in Flubber as well,flubber.

Zach (33:22):
Yeah, I cried there in.

Josh (33:23):
Flubber, you remember that with Robin Williams?

Zach (33:25):
Oh, yeah, yeah it was when they made a flying car out of
Gak?

Josh (33:31):
Yeah, but was it Short Circuit, where one of the robots
was beat to death by somebodyand he died, but then he comes
back?

Zach (33:35):
Oh, yeah, he gets jumped yeah that's right.
And his eyes all fucked up.
He fucking tore me up.
I was tore up, yeah 100%.

Josh (33:43):
It was a weapon.

Zach (33:43):
He originally had a little laser on his back and then, I
guess, since he's good orself-aware or whatever, it
turned into a toolbox.

Josh (33:52):
Like a bubble, it was like a red toolbox.
I was going to go back andwatch those.

Zach (33:57):
I don't remember that, yeah dude Short circuit one and
two.

Josh (34:06):
Yeah, Flubber was the little, he made a little thing
and it had a little robot.
Yeah, it had a littlehovercraft bot that helped Robin
Williams do all this.
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right, hedid have a little.

Zach (34:11):
Yeah, it wasn't Flubber Run or whatever.

Josh (34:12):
No, no, no, no, it was a separate thing.

Zach (34:13):
Yeah, okay, but yeah, I always thought the premise of
that was weird was thatsubstance, I guess, bounced
infinitely and it was able togenerate?
lift in a car.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if it did make anysense.

Josh (34:28):
RIP old.

Zach (34:28):
Robin, whatever Nice.
Nice callbacks, but then alsothe substance also had kind of
like a personality and was likedoing dance numbers and shit.

Josh (34:37):
I don't need.
It was weird.
I don't need shit like thataround me.
It was a weird fucking movie.
It's a little weird.

Zach (34:43):
Thank God they don't make things like that.

Josh (34:44):
Well, same goo from Ghostbusters 2.
He's like I talk to it, talksweet to it, and it reacts.

Zach (34:49):
Yeah, right, yeah exactly.

Josh (34:51):
So what did you do with this Ray Took?

Zach (34:52):
it home with him.
Vehicle Ah shit, ah, jesus,okay, well, so that was the
things we watched this week thatwe liked and did not like.
Another one, I guess I'll throwin there that I did like,
because I was just thinkingabout it was 1923.

Josh (35:16):
Yeah, that was mentioned on our Instagram.
Oh, was it?
Yeah, I asked everybody whatthey were watching and one of
them was 1923.
Okay, I've seen season one.
Okay, I've never watched it.
I haven't seen season two.

Zach (35:24):
Season two's out.
It's been a few episodes in.
I've been delaying because I'vebeen watching all this stuff
and I just don't have as muchtime to watch things, and I
started it last night.

Josh (35:36):
Episode one I think I got episode two in 19 two.
Okay, my bad Got you.

Zach (35:42):
So really good show.
It is good, taylor Sheridan,the dude apparently he's making.
He's having to make a shit tonof shows because he's got to pay
for that fucking ranch.

Josh (35:50):
Four, sixes that he bought .
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he owns.

Zach (35:53):
Four, sixes Ranch in Texas .

Josh (35:55):
I don't feel bad for him?
No, and he pays himself to useall, used all the, whatever the
ranch to make these shows andshit he's a good writer.

Zach (36:08):
He's a good writer.
Yeah, he's a good writer.
Some stuff misses, I think Somestuff hits.
I think he has more hits thanhe does misses, I think Mayor of
Kingstown is.
I've never started that.
I've watched season one becauseit had Jeremy Renner in.
I like Jeremy Renner, I do too.
But season two is already out.
It's been out for a while.

(36:28):
I don't know.
I just didn't really like thepremise necessarily.
I've heard Tulsa King is prettygood, but I just don't want to
watch a fucking almost dead.

Josh (36:37):
Sylvester Stallone, I can't do it.

Zach (36:39):
If he's not Rocky or Rambo , I can't fucking do it.
I just saw where he wasinterviewed on johnny carson
from the 70s.
Yeah, I want.
I know I was talking about thatbut he was on there.

Josh (36:52):
I just small doses man.
I don't know I can't same way.
That's what rambo was cool.
I like him for what he does,but I can't do the toast.
I can't do it.

Zach (36:56):
Expendables is the last thing I watched him in it yeah,
and even even then I didn'treally watch all of those, but
like Demolition man, fuckinglove that movie.
Yeah, sandra Bullock was superhot, sandra.
Bullock was super hot.
It had weird Rob Schneider init.
He was also one of those copbuddies.

Josh (37:12):
Yeah, but didn't that have .
Wesley Snipes was in that too.
Wesley Snipes was in that.
You know what I'm saying?
Hell yeah, great movie.

Zach (37:25):
He peaked a long time ago and I just can't get into
anything that I'm.

Josh (37:27):
I was looking up taylor sheridan's movies.
He's written and directed andyou're right, he's had more hits
yes, I definitely had more hitshe directed wind river, which
wind river is one of the wildestshootouts I've ever seen.
Yes, he wrote that fucked uptoo, sicario, I love that movie.
Yep, and the second second onewasn't as good the one, but he
wrote both of those.
Yes, both great cartel movies.
If you haven't seen those,definitely need to see them.

(37:48):
But Nisto Toro shines, yep,100%.

Zach (37:53):
Yeah, mary of Kingstown wasn't as good.
Tulsa King I haven't seen, butI just don't see it.

Josh (37:58):
Landman.

Zach (37:59):
I actually want to watch that, probably soon.
My parents loved it.
My dad said it was really goodtoo, but I've heard people say
it's really good, of courseYellowstone it's finally done,
but he created the Yellowstoneverse.
Yep 1883 might be one of thebest one-season shows that I've
seen and we should probably do awhole segment of that coming up

(38:20):
, maybe next episode, because weneed to do some research on
this.
But what's the best, like topfive, all time best one season
shows, and we can throw anime inthere too, cause there's some
of those.
All right, I'll write that down.
Um, yeah, make some notes.
Note taker.

Josh (38:34):
Cause 18.

Zach (38:36):
Yeah, 18, 83 was fan fucking tastic 10 out of 10.
It was awesome.

Josh (38:42):
It really is Great story.
I just can't.
I mean it was the Oregon Trail,but it was brutal and fucking
season On finale.
That last 15 minutes was thehardest thing I've ever had to
watch.
It might be the only thing that.

Zach (38:53):
I like.
I'm not a big country music guy, so it's the only thing that I
like that Tim McGraw did Him andhis wife both were absolutely
stunning in that show.

Josh (39:02):
Yes, they looked like they performed like two-season
actors.
I mean it was.
It was very good, Dude.

Zach (39:09):
And then in 1923, obviously it's in the same
Yellowstone verse.
It's all about the Duttonfamily.
Yeah.
And 1923, when I first watchedthat.
If it was just a one season Iwould say it's not as good as
1883, but it's still good, ohyeah.
Season 1883, but it's still good.
Oh yeah, season one was superfun.
It's still really good.
And so the fact that theycliffhangered it and they're
going to have a season two, Iwas like hell yeah, keep this

(39:30):
going because it's still good.
So far it is good.
And the girl that spoiler Idon't give a fuck about spoilers
the girl that dies at the veryend.
It's the daughter of the Duttonfamily in 1883.

Josh (39:45):
She's a wild ass, wild ass .
She was cool.

Zach (39:47):
She ends up hooking up with old Duke, old cowboy.

Josh (39:49):
She hooked up with the cowboy and then she hooks up
with old Indian dude.
Becomes like an Indian Right.

Zach (39:55):
She gets shot by a dirty arrow and then dying and she's
basically like I don part of theland or some bullshit, whenever
she actually they actually getto yellowstone, you actually get
to the valley.

Josh (40:12):
I hated that part and, uh, so hard to watch.
It's brutal um and um.
May, I think was her name.
What was her name?
I don't know, couldn't see thatthe tears yeah, uh, she
narrates 1923, yeah um she's onthe grave I guess um, they dig
her up.

Zach (40:21):
Yeah, it's very good perform um.
Highly recommend watching those.
I'm glad yellowstone proper isover because it started to get
fucking as soon as they broughtin piper parabo to be like the
fucking hippie, or whatever itwas bad and I got fucking sick
and tired of beth just being agiant fucking bitch.
Well, you thought it was justI'm like, I'm over it, like

(40:43):
you're damaged and so you hateeverybody.
Well, we liked at the beginningin the thought it was just I'm
like, I'm over it, like you'redamaged and so you hate
everybody.
Well, we liked at the beginningin the beginning we thought she
was gonna get softened up.
She got worse she got worse.

Josh (40:52):
I have not seen the latest season, it just came out on
peacock all seasons.
Well, I'm gonna catch up on thelast season.
Well, you know the whole thing.

Zach (40:58):
Yes, like kevin costner basically like yes, ejected
himself well so you know what he?
He basically pulled out to godo his own thing.
Kevin Costner is a weird dude.
I like him, but I do like him.
I do too, and he loves makingEpics, american specific Epics,
yep, that tell America's story,america's history Dances with

(41:19):
Wolves that he pays for.

Josh (41:20):
He ends up paying for them because they end up going over
budget.

Zach (41:23):
Yeah, that's his thing he loves doing.
He likes playingAmerican-centric movies.

Josh (41:27):
Well, waterworld.
What was that?
I don't know.
America Drowned.
That's an exception.
I guess, Of course now, I guessthat's what he does or whatever
, but yeah he had to getwhatever role he could get, I
guess, back in the day.

Zach (41:41):
But he left Yellowstone essentially for the final season
Spoiler.

Josh (41:47):
Well, there's some creative differences between him
and Taylor.

Zach (41:49):
Sheridan, I think there was, and I think he was just
tired of the.
I don't think he liked the wayit was going.
Yeah, and he was just tired of.
He's not someone that generallywould want to play a character
for fucking 10 years or whatever.
Yeah, he's going would want toplay a character for fucking 10
years or whatever.
Yeah, he's going to.
He's going to want to move onto his own thing.
I guess he gets a little antsyin his pantsy, I think.

(42:09):
So, uh, he went to go dobasically Yellowstone.
No it was a frontier horizonhorizon, excuse me, and it's a.
Apparently it's got multipleparts.
I don't know, I've seen thisbefore.

(42:30):
Yeah, I mean most.
It's basically 1883,essentially it's the same kind
of storyline.
Almost Ensemble cast gotmultiple storylines going on at
the same time.
They all kind of intertwine alittle bit and it's set in that
same era right In the Midwest.
So it's not groundbreaking oranything, anything like that,

(42:53):
but it's good, I'll I'll.
When part two comes out, I'llwatch it okay um, but anyway
check it out um, but anyway,like I said I was, I'm glad that
yellowstone kind of endedbecause I was kind of done with
that show so I'm now it's like1923 that's.

Josh (43:06):
That's the kind of the primary focus for me, for the
shared inverse okay, I'm gonnago back and finish the last
season of Yellowstone so I can,kind of, because I love the show
but I want to see the lastseason.

Zach (43:19):
Definitely get through it.
I've heard, mixed reviews.

Josh (43:21):
Everybody went into it with a bad taste anyways,
because Kevin was leaving.

Zach (43:26):
It's like Game of Thrones, season 8.
It's like they rush it.
They just wanted to get throughit and tie it off and be done.

Josh (43:32):
rush it they just wanted to get through it and tie it off
and be done with it.
And now there's side showscoming Now they got spinoffs and
shit, and so I think thespinoffs are the focus.

Zach (43:40):
It was kind of like I don't know if you really got
into Walking Dead.

Josh (43:44):
I did six seasons and then I quit watching.
I got bored.
I don't like the genre ofzombies.
Yeah, because it ends upgetting away from that and
becomes just how shitty peopleare and I don't get.

Zach (43:54):
I got bored with it well, so I think that's what I liked
about is is that the, thezombies were.
The were a backdrop, but thefocus was survival.
It was people trying to rebuildcivilization I was at first
right and.
But you're right at some point.
Um, it does get old and I thinkthe spinoffs that they had
weren't as good as the originalat its peak.

(44:14):
But eventually you ended upwatching that more to me.
You ended up watching that morethan you did the original at
the very end of it, just becauseit was played out.

Josh (44:26):
I couldn't get into the Last of Us.
I got halfway through seasonone.
I got bored.

Zach (44:30):
So I guess because of the zombie genre, I'm just not
interested.

Josh (44:33):
I one, I got bored.
So I guess because of thezombie genre I'm just not
interested.
I just, I don't know.
I don't think it's a badtelevision show.
I'm not saying that at all.
It's just not for me, I justcouldn't.

Zach (44:41):
This is interesting.
So I don't like kids saving theworld movies, yeah, and you
don't like zombie movies.

Josh (44:47):
I just can't stand zombie movies.
Okay, zombie movies okay, sothat for one world war z, I will
say, yeah, that one was thatone different re-watched and it
is its own thing.
That's it other than that Ican't stand it.
I don't like the wall.
I've never seen night of theliving dead.
I've never watched any of thoseold school at first part of the
zombie genre.
I think it's overplayed andit's.

(45:07):
I just think it's aggravating.

Zach (45:09):
I don't know yeah, I can't watch it.
I, I don't.

Josh (45:12):
It's not scary to me.

Zach (45:13):
Yeah, I'm with you.
I'm with you on the zombiegenre in general.
To me it's not even really bad.
The zombies are just thezombies are like a natural
disaster, they're like a weatherevent to me.

Josh (45:28):
I just don't want to watch people being shitty.

Zach (45:31):
They're the reason why the world fell, and what I like to,
what I'm interested in, is thepost-apocalyptic nature of the
show and how people you know getalong, get along or don't get
along, and that's when it's realfun, and you know how they're
trying to rebuild society fromthe ground up.
Whenever there is no rules,there's no laws anymore.

(45:53):
You know what I mean, butthat's interesting to me.
The zombie is just a reason forthat to happen, like it could be
a fucking super volcano thatgoes off Like who gives a shit,
like it doesn't matter.
So that that to me, that's whatthe zombie genre is and I think
that what everybody thinks itis.
But I would say some people dothe zombies better than others.
And the walking dead was veryum.

(46:14):
First of all it was a littleit's based on.
It's also a comic book based ona comic book and um uh, they
never.
They never say the Z word.
They never call them zombies.
Everybody has a different wordfor them, so I always thought
that was weird.
They always danced around theword, but no one ever fucking
said zombie.
They're called walkers, they'rewalkers or rotters or you know.
People say different shit.
They're like slang.

(46:35):
Yeah, they've got differentwords.
Different communities in theworld have different names for
it, but the main characters thatyou follow are called walkers,
but they never say zombies.
But World War Z is a differenttake on the zombie genre.
It's awesome.
Also, another one that I thinkyou do like is 28 Days Later and

(46:57):
28 Weeks Later.
Never seen it, never seen those.
I thought you'd seen those Neverseen any of them.
That's very much like World WarZ, where they're not like slow
shambling.
They're seeing 12 Monkeys 12Monkeys is well, yeah, that's
not really, I'm just saying I'venever seen that outbreak, but
I've never.

Josh (47:12):
There's a new 28 coming out.
I've never watched those.
Are they good?

Zach (47:16):
yeah, they are good.
They're very much like WorldWar Z.
We're not shambling, fuckingrotting corpses that are dead.
It's a disease that peoplecatch.
They're very much alive.

Josh (47:29):
That's why it just makes them frenzied.
I guess it's a.
That's what I'm, that's.

Zach (47:33):
I think that's why it just makes them frenzied.
Yeah, I think that.
Well, I like I guess it's athat's what 28 Days Later.
And 28 Weeks Later is it's justlike World War Z, except they
don't turn into like a fuckingwave of bodies.

Josh (47:40):
I think it intertwines what you said, though Like Not
so far out, that it's like whatthe fuck it's like?
The Walking Dead season one wasreally good.
I was hooked.
I was like this is dope.
I'm trying to figure out whatthe fuck happened.
How are people surviving this?
But World War Z was currentlyhappening.

(48:03):
He was traveling the worldbecause he worked for the CDC
and trying to figure out whatthe fuck is happening.
That whole epic scale of thatwas awesome.

Zach (48:13):
Of course, the body's flooding over the wall and
israel and shit yeah, I thinkthat's the reason why you
probably resonate to that one,that that you don't to the
others, because most zombiemovies, it, it, uh, it uh takes
place around a group of likenormal people, like at a fucking
mall, right yeah.
Or or, you know, in the case ofwalking dead they're just like
in, you know, trying to survivein the american south in the

(48:35):
woods, and everything like it'ssmall.
You know, world war z is likeokay, how would society, quote
at large, like government andmilitary, and how would they
respond?

Josh (48:45):
well, you're watching that unfold, which is interesting,
and he did.
He didn't do stupid shit.
Yes, that's what I like too.
He wasn't a complete idiot,went for the essentials, got the
rifle.
I don't like watching whenpeople are just doing asinine
things that don't make any sense.
At least that was kind of it'sa little bit of a different take
.

Zach (49:04):
And instead of just trying to survive and quote, society
hadn't fallen.
It was basically.
World War Z was basicallyOutbreak.
It was an Outbreak movie.
It was no different than themovie Outbreak.
To where this thing?
And he was trying to get to theorigin, the patient zero.

(49:26):
If you can get to patient zeroand you can find the origin of
the contagion, then you can finda way to inoculate, you know,
cure it.
Yeah, and that's what world warz was about.
The zombies was.
It wasn't really a zombie movie, it was.
It was a pandemic movie is whatit was.

Josh (49:43):
I'll give that an eight and a half.

Zach (49:45):
Yeah, I definitely.

Josh (49:46):
I'm kind of disappointed that there wasn't a sequel and
then sometimes I'm not because Idon't want to be shitty, that's
true I just get that cool I'lljust assume they figured it out,
because the ending of that filmall right cool I'm.
I'm actually okay with it.
What was it?
They end up giving themselveshepatitis c well, no, he ended
up yeah, went into because thethey find out obviously like
what that kid had, they won't.

(50:06):
It has to have a host to spread.
Well, it won't spread if thehost has any sort of disease Any
kind of ailment.
It's severe enough.
So he went there where they hadanthrax and all this wild shit
and he gave himself Ebola, or hegave himself something, no I
think it was hepatitis.

Zach (50:22):
B or some shit.

Josh (50:23):
Something that they could cure when he came out, but they
found out that it masked him.

Zach (50:27):
Let me find out.

Josh (50:29):
Just go to the end of uh world war z on wiki, I should
tell you.

Zach (50:32):
But yeah, I don't know I can't, I can't do, do those the
zombie movies.

Josh (50:38):
Yeah, right I mean sure, I guess it's it's gotta be.
It's hit and miss for me.
Yeah, what?

Zach (50:44):
about um, here's, here's a zombie, let's put.
Let's poke you a little bithere and see if there's some
zombie movies you did like, doit, do it.
Uh, what about army of the dead?

Josh (50:55):
yeah, because it it didn't play out like a zombie movie.
Right, it played out like moresci-fi.
Yes, there was a sci-fi it wasan alien beginning.
Yeah, so right that one didn'tfeel the same.
To me that was a one-off.

Zach (51:06):
I didn't watch the other one so maybe let's uh, let's,
narrow down your what you're,because I might just I have a
distinct dislike for movies towhere the kids are heroes, like
not young adults, you want me topoke you, but like they're
fucking 12.
I'm out.
You know what I'm saying, yeah.
Let the adults handle thebusiness, but anyway.
So that's my specific one, so Ithink maybe yours is, and

(51:28):
correct me if I'm wrong.
You don't like movies whereit's like literally dead beings
coming, resurrecting.
Yeah, like a traditional zonk.
Yeah, I just shambling rottingcorpses.

Josh (51:39):
Yeah, and everybody's like what do we do?
They don't run.
There was no runners.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so they justmove in a pack.
Yeah, they're eating ourfucking brains.

Zach (51:49):
Sorry, Maybe at the time if I was like I, I don't like it
.
I've never been a fan you like,because it was.

Josh (51:57):
They weren't actually dead , and maybe the quality as well,
maybe because, um, if you lookat when you're talking about, uh
, walking dead like those aretraditional zombies in the
beginning yeah and I watched sixseasons of it because I got I
got attached to characters andlike you know, of course they're
like got to keep him out thatwhole thing.
So it was kind of relatable ifit really happened.
I was like, okay, this might bekind of how it went.

Zach (52:21):
Alec, I think it's.
I want to say I think it's AlexKurtzman.
He's the guy that made thegraphic novels and then he also
was basically the showrunner aswell.
Uh, for the walking dead is, uh, his.
The premise of walking dead andthe reason why he wrote that
graphic novel.
Series of graphic novels was,like most zombie movies to that

(52:43):
point, were about the initialoutbreak yeah right the initial
fault and it usually happensvery quick, or maybe it's like
24 hours after the initialoutbreak.
Basically, shit's going down,everyone's getting zombified and
it's usually focused around agroup of an ensemble cast, a
group of people stuck in a mallor in a fucking you know

(53:04):
wherever, and it's them tryingto survive.
And either they do, or maybeone person gets out, whatever,
and then end scene Like that'susually how they've all gone
down right.
Yeah, he was like well, whathappens?
Like day two, like he basicallywas like I want to see this
through.

Josh (53:20):
Yeah, I don't want to see where a nuke's just dropped and
everybody dies.
I want to see like Exactly.

Zach (53:24):
So that was how Walking Dead kind of became.

Josh (53:26):
Because I fucking like Resident Evil.

Zach (53:28):
I like those movies, the T-Virus.

Josh (53:30):
That's not even a zombie thing, no, but it's.
It's a contagion that creates,I guess they don't die, I mean I
guess they transform so I thinkthat's where your bugaboo is is
that rotting dead, shamblingcorpses?
I don't give a fuck.
Not entertaining to me, okayannoying.
I'm glad we found this.
I'm glad we discovered this.
I feel better about it now.

Zach (53:50):
Yeah exactly, we've analyzed your disdain for zombie
movies.

Josh (53:53):
Write that in my journal tonight.

Zach (53:54):
Yes.
I was thinking here's anotherone that's zombie-esque.
You need to watch 28 Days Later.

Josh (54:03):
Yeah, I'll check that out 28.

Zach (54:04):
Weeks Later.
Because I've heard good things.
Yes, because 28 years later, Iguess is coming out and that's
going to be, that's going to begood.

Josh (54:11):
Yeah, the trailer where, like that dude in that like
cornfield or whatever, it lookedhorrible.

Zach (54:16):
Yeah and yeah, because obviously they're evolving or
something like that.
It's going to be interesting.

Josh (54:21):
Yeah.

Zach (54:21):
I need to catch up.
And so you like Resident Evil,World War Z.
I mean, there's a theme here.
You like Army.
No, Army of Darkness is theEvil Dead, that's something.

Josh (54:34):
Bruce Campbell, yeah, those are good too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, except thatfirst one Evil Dead was rough.

Zach (54:38):
It was not really zombies, it was more like demons.
Yeah.

Josh (54:40):
Well, I'm not saying the same, John, but you just
mentioned it.
Sam Raimi did that first one.
It was hard to watch that girlgets raped by that tree.

Zach (54:53):
Yeah, yeah, lesser, that's not true, awful yeah, uh, what
about day of the day of the dead?
No, I don't know.
I understood.
Um, yeah, that's alsotraditional zombies stuck in a
mall, that whole thing.

Josh (54:58):
I just don't care okay, and then maybe they're just done
.
They're just older, shittymovies, I think this.

Zach (55:02):
I think this is pretty solidified.
I think is I feel good aboutthis.
You don't like dead?

Josh (55:07):
yeah, zombies and you don't have to be frenzied or
yeah, and you don't like anysteven spielberg film with
children leading the way, and Idon't like.

Zach (55:15):
I don't like kids saving the day.
Fuck them kids.
If it was up to like,realistically, if it was up to
kid, we'd be fucked.

Josh (55:23):
I mean, yeah, like.
But then the argument would belike well, these kids are
different, like no, they're notno, they're not.
Fuck your whimsy.
Get the fuck out of here I likethe movie what it is, but if
there's some parent aid in there, I'm like all right, I can buy
it.
Because I mean, I love StrangerThings, but they have adult
help.

Zach (55:39):
That's what I'm saying.
Like they would have beentotally fucked if it was for
Hoppers.
She has powers.
It's a different thing.

Josh (55:46):
Exactly right.
Someone's going to saysomething.
I do love that show and I knowit's led by teenagers, middle
school kids up yes, Super 8.

Zach (55:57):
I think the one that I hang my hat on as this is an
example of a shitty movie, andthe reason why it's shitty is
because they let kids be a part,like they put it in the hands
of kids.

Josh (56:12):
And it's Pacific Rim 2.
The one we talked about, it'sthe one, that's the one, and I'm
just like you ruined it.

Zach (56:16):
You ruined it because you got these multi-billion dollar
fucking mechs this is a trilliondollar mech, or whatever.
You got a bunch of them andthey're there to save the planet
and whoop some kaiju ass andyou're like well, we need some
children.

Josh (56:30):
Like the fuck, where are all the adults?
Where are the adults?
We just have cadets.

Zach (56:33):
You just had the.
What blows my mind about it isthe last movie.
It was all adults.
Yeah.

Josh (56:39):
One set left, yeah.

Zach (56:41):
A couple left.
They're still alive, and nomechs yeah.

Josh (56:44):
Actually there is.
No.
There was no more at the end ofthat movie.
Yeah, that everybody.

Zach (56:49):
Yes, well, I think they even said that.
I think they did well, it wasthe girl.
She was the only one that'sleft because oh, what's his face
?
Um, charlie Hunnam's character,um, they like killed him off
screen.
Well, that sucks.
You know what I mean, for innumber two, I liked it, and so
the uh, you know, the Japanesechick was the only girl that was

(57:09):
left, and then I guess the onlyplace they could find pilots
that can go into the drift yeah,it was a bunch of fucking kids
and that just infuriated them.

Josh (57:20):
That happened this year in that movie world.
That movie was in 2025.
Oh, was it.
Pacific Rim was Okay.

Zach (57:28):
Not even fucking close to that.
Yeah, so they ruined it.
And also that's probably alsothe reason why I get that Harry
Potter is about fucking Hogwartsand it's kids in school.

Josh (57:38):
It's kids, but still, kids save the day, kids save the day
.
I mean, I love those moviesmore than most, and it's
children.
Right, it's relatable you watchthem develop into teenagers.

Zach (57:48):
And at any point, at any point in that fucking movie, the
adults could have bandedtogether and done some shit.

Josh (57:55):
But they just like fucking .

Zach (57:57):
Dumbledore and Snape and all of them fucking bullshit
around and let the kids get intothe shenanigans.
There's more to it than that,zach, I know, but that's my beef
with the fucking.
I can't get into your book.

Josh (58:08):
You hate children, I hate kids.
You hate teachers and children.
Everybody knows that, that'strue.
You hate teachers that mold ouryouth and you hate the youth.

Zach (58:18):
The Boys actually kind of posted some spicy teacher
comments.
This week we're going to take ateacher call-in.
We need to.
We need to, and my mind is open, I'll set it up.

Josh (58:32):
My mind is open about open .
I'll set it up.
My mind is open about it, I'llset it up.

Zach (58:35):
But I have yet to hear a rational argument to refute my
beef.

Josh (58:42):
I'm going to sit back and just listen to that show.

Zach (58:46):
Right.

Josh (58:47):
And just be like that's not what he said last week.

Zach (58:49):
What drives me nuts about that whole conversation,
whenever I express my opinion onit, is everyone's like oh, yeah
, yeah, but but.
But.
But I'm like I'm not sayingthat their job isn't fucking
hard.
No one actually attacks myactual argument.
They always attack somethingI'm not fucking saying.

Josh (59:08):
Right.

Zach (59:09):
So that's just my general beef.
I'm not going to get into it.
If we get a teacher on here,then we can have a nice civil
conversation.
Okay, where I'll be right andthey'll be wrong.

Josh (59:19):
Oh yeah, Because if they end up saying it too wrong,
we'll just hang up.

Zach (59:23):
Yeah, be like you're wrong .
You're wrong.
Bye, sorry, this is my show,not yours.
Yeah.

Josh (59:29):
Until the beginning, like just a disclaimer, like I'm
gonna be right right, it's setup.

Zach (59:32):
This is like wrestling I'm gonna give you a chance, but
it's hopeless yeah, right, I'mgetting the belt at the end.

Josh (59:38):
Right, you might have it for a second.
This is rigged.

Zach (59:39):
This is like a boxing match.
I'm you're, you're gonna take adive and I'm gonna make a bunch
of money thanks for coming onright, I like that.
Uh, we really do need to set up.
Uh, some like callers to call.
I know we got, I've got somepeople on deck people yeah,
we'll get it going, you too, uh.
Speaking of which, uh, let's,uh, you've got some comments

(01:00:01):
that people have made.

Josh (01:00:01):
Yeah, yeah, so, um, let me do that let me do a quick shout
out for carter.
Carter's a longtime listener.
Uh, he's listened to all of ourepisodes, all of them.
Great guy, um, family friend,but he is in the age group Um,
when we asked what was a highschool film that came out from
2015 on um, which I don't knowhis exact age, Sorry.

Zach (01:00:26):
Carter, how far back did we go?
We did like we did all the wayup to 15 to 15.

Josh (01:00:30):
So, 15 on, and he messaged me, uh and me, and said he
can't think of any in that timeframe, when he was in high
school, that a movie that cameout that was relevant to what
was happening.
Okay, he said there wasn't any.
Now he did mention that hehasn't seen our era films.
Okay, he'd never seen Superbad.
So I told him.
I said you have to watchSuperbad, so he's gonna watch it

(01:00:57):
and stuff he'll let me know.
But he did say that therewasn't one that he remembers in
that era when he was in schoolfor those you know, four years
of high school, that was thatwas like a staple film, that
kind of like capsulized definedthat.
Yeah, he said there wasn't onethat he can remember era um,
there might be one.
This is just from his take.
Interesting that he didn'tremember there being one all
right.

Zach (01:01:10):
So so so far there hasn't really and we could.
I could ask AI real quick.
We didn't do this on the lastepisode, but maybe we can do
that.

Josh (01:01:20):
But there was a lot that he hadn't seen from our era.
So, that'll be interesting toget his take on what he thought
about it, dude, if your allergyhas been so fucked up the last
month.
Pretty much, bro.
I just was bringing that upwhile you were.
My eyes are watering.
I was just bringing that upwhile you were typing.
It's been terrible.

(01:01:42):
The wildest weather ever ishappening here in Tennessee.
Yeah it's a constant tickle, ohmine's eyes watering, or it's
just.
You know, it's a constanttickle.
Oh, mine's eyes watering, orit's just yeah, it's terrible,
all right.

Zach (01:01:58):
Well, let's ask.
Pondering that question here,oh, wow, I mean, some of these
are Spit some out, didn't it?
Let's see?
The Edge of 17 came out in 2016.
I've seen that.
Haley Steinfeld, I mean, nah, Idon't think Haley Steinfeld, I
mean nah, I don't think thatdefines a generation of high
schoolers and that's it.

(01:02:20):
That's all AI's got.
That sucks.
Yeah, I feel like.

Josh (01:02:27):
COVID killed them.
Other than that, we hadsomebody when I asked.

Zach (01:02:30):
Maybe it wasn't COVID, that was 2015.

Josh (01:02:38):
Maybe that generation is just they don't, they're not on,
they're not movies, they'rewatching fucking tiktoks and
youtube.
Well, not only that, I thinkthey're.
I know gen z is for sure.
It has a different outlook onhumor and that kind of stuff, I
don't know I'm just, I'm justthinking out loud like if I'm
trying to make a film for thenew group coming up.

Zach (01:02:56):
Yeah.

Josh (01:02:56):
Yeah, I I've heard I don't I haven't researched it a whole
lot, but I've heard that Gen Z,like when we mentioned it
before, like they don't like alot of sexual content in their
films.
They don't like they have adifferent outlook on television.

Zach (01:03:08):
Maybe Edge of 17 is their movie Maybe.

Josh (01:03:11):
I don't know.

Zach (01:03:12):
I haven't seen it in a while.
I'm about to watch it.
I've never seen it.
Is it even a comedy?
Is it a?

Josh (01:03:17):
movie Dude.
It's been a while since I'veseen it.
Let me get a quick little sneak.

Zach (01:03:22):
I guess I get what it's about.
I've seen the trailer for it,or little clips here and there,
because I do like HaleySteinfeld and she's cute as fuck
.

Josh (01:03:31):
Yeah, you just like her because she's cute.
Yeah, not what she's doing, Iget it.

Zach (01:03:36):
She's a.
Is she already married or she'sabout to marry?
I don't know.
It gives a shit, I don't know.

Josh (01:03:42):
I just Did, you see where Sidney.

Zach (01:03:43):
Spade called off her wedding.

Josh (01:03:45):
Yeah, oh know, uh, and I've seen, I swear I've seen
that dude and some shit before.

Zach (01:03:58):
Maybe I've not seen this movie, zach edge of 17.
I don't think I've seen it, butit's free on philo so I'm not
gonna watch it.
It doesn't seem.
I mean I've when I I think Igather it's just like a teenage
angst movie and woody harrelson.
That girl, yeah, it does havewoody harrelson in it yeah, so
maybe that's their movie, maybe,I don't know.
Let's uh, let's see what 2020and 2025.
Let's see what AI's got forthat.

Josh (01:04:13):
Yeah, Sydney Sweeney, I'm sorry about your failed marriage
.

Zach (01:04:16):
No, we have a chance.

Josh (01:04:19):
You do, I don't.
I'll just look at her picturesof her underwater.
That's where she celebrated hersplit for 10 million likes Like
drowning herself.
I think the Duff is the onedude.
That's 2015.

Zach (01:04:34):
Yeah, but we said that that was 2010 to 2015, right,
right, so it was a tail end ofthat era.

Josh (01:04:39):
So unless there's another one we can.

Zach (01:04:41):
We can supplant if somebody has something, throw it
up and we can make the duff the2015 one, the 2020, but the
2020 to 2025, uh, that's a weirdera, the fallout never heard of
it.

Josh (01:04:55):
There's a new show on Amazon that's about has Jenna.

Zach (01:04:56):
Ortega in it never heard of it.
She's weird dude, the fucking.
The high school movie is dead,I think.
I think the high school movieis dead.
Nobody, I don't know the dovemay be the last one and I
haven't seen alright.
The Duff may be the last one andI haven't seen.
All right, I'll make a point towatch Edge of Seventeen and if
it's a, if I think like, oh,this, I'll watch it too.

Josh (01:05:18):
I just don't think it's memorable enough, I'll watch it,
let's find out, let's find out,let's find out.
Okay, I'll watch it and theDuff is more of a feel good

(01:05:42):
towards the end, like, likenobody in that mood.

Zach (01:05:45):
In that movie, the duff is , like you know, going on to
bigger and better things to methat the Duff has like never
been kissed, or uh yeah, I meanI had a Drew Barrymore.
Well, I'm not talking aboutCassie.

Josh (01:05:57):
I meant just story-wise.
It's not as funny as super bad.
Super bad to me is its ownthing, Like I think I don't
think anything's ever come close.

Zach (01:06:03):
Yeah, but yeah, oh yeah, tears.
Yes, it's an S-class movie.
I get it.
The Duff, I don't thinkdefinitely reaches that, but it
had what was his name?
Robbie Amell.
Yeah, he ain't really done much, he ain't done shit.

(01:06:23):
So who came out of the Duff,where the movie wasn't that big?
No, no, no, no, yeah, I agree.
So it was probably the last one, unless Edge of 17,.
I don't know.
Maybe let's watch it.
We need to watch it Because itdoes have Woody Harrelson.
I do like Woody Harrelson.
I like Woody Harrelson.
But yeah, I guess that movie'sdead, so somebody movie makers

(01:06:46):
get out there.
The high schoolers of todayneed a fucking movie that they
can attach themselves to or theydon't.

Josh (01:06:53):
But actually you know what You've been around high school
kids.

Zach (01:06:56):
Take it back.
I'll bet you, I know what the2020 to 2025 is currently.
What's that?
And it ain't a movie, it's a TVshow and it's fucking crazy.
What is it?
Euphoria, I can't get into that.
That's about high schoolers andit's a bunch of fucking Dude.
But let me Bunch of bunch ofwhores, yes, and cam girls.
It's wild and trainees andbunch of shit.

(01:07:17):
It's a bunch Like it's drugusers, like it's wild.

Josh (01:07:20):
I asked you about it.
I called you this was when itfirst came out and I said have
you seen this dark?
It's like it.
And then I'm, I'm watching.
I'm like where the fuck werethese parties at in high school
like they?
They were like serious, likeclub level parties and people
are like fucking in the bathroomand doing drugs.

(01:07:40):
I was like this is not.
I don't know what high schoolreality this is.
I was like if this is the newversion of high school, I never
would have survived yeah, I mean, obviously it's a little put in
los ang, so maybe it's a little.
But it's a rich.
You kind of get the rich partof town, then you kind of get
the chick that's in the slums.
But I mean, I've been to a highschool party.

Zach (01:08:00):
That's like obviously not that level.
Sure, Because it's set whereit's set, but like for the area
that I grew up in yeah, I guessI forgot about Euphoria People
hooking up in the back room Somecasual drug use.
How do we?

Josh (01:08:18):
not remember Euphoria Because it wasn't a movie.
I guess we were saying movies.
You're right, I think that's2015.

Zach (01:08:25):
Well, no, that's got to be 2020 to 2025.

Josh (01:08:27):
And that's got an ensemble cast.

Zach (01:08:29):
When did Euphoria come out ?

Josh (01:08:31):
It's fucked up.
I don't really particularlylike that show, but it is dark.

Zach (01:08:37):
They're about to do another season 2019 is when it
first started came out, so we'llsay that's 2020, 2025.
Yeah, it's coming back it'scoming back, and I think this is
the last one, and they'vealready said that it's
definitely going to be takingplace in college.
It's not high schoolers anymore, because at some point these
people were just too fucking oldto play high schoolers.

Josh (01:08:56):
Yeah, I mean that's, I think.

Zach (01:08:58):
Euphoria is a good stand-in for the quote high
school movie say show because itbecause it does have heavy
hitters it has launched SydneySweeney.
For fuck's sake.
I mean, no one would know whoSydney Sweeney is if she wasn't
in euphoria.
Straight up, that's true.
Yeah, that's when I first cameacross that a hundred percent

(01:09:20):
when everyone was privy to whatshe had to offer.

Josh (01:09:24):
Yeah, I mean, she's a beautiful lady and she actually
is a really good actress too.
I think she's cool.
I've seen her interviews.
Apparently she works on FordBroncos and all kinds of shit,
wakeboards, yeah.
And then she got slandered lastyear for someone in her family
had a Trump something on.
She was at a birthday party.
They're like meh, you knoweverybody gets upset.

Zach (01:09:42):
And she was like shut up, here's my titties.

Josh (01:09:45):
Yeah, well then in an interview they asked her too
about her t, because we're onthat subject.
I guess she wanted to get areduction.
Her mom said you'll regret thatin college.

Zach (01:09:52):
She leans in.

Josh (01:09:55):
She should lean into it.

Zach (01:09:56):
That is something I do appreciate about Sydney Sweeney,
and maybe our female listenerswould disagree with us.
Here we go, but she leans intoit.
She is fully aware Of how hotshe is, of that her two assets
that sit on her front or whatlike, what got her where she's
at, like she's.
She makes no bones about it.
She understands what it is, sheleans into it and she's milking

(01:10:20):
it for all that it's worth.
I mean, she talked about howshe went.
She could have gone to actingschool, but she went to business
school, cause she's like thatwhen you're in the acting world,
like it's also a business andyou can get fucked over if you
don't understand the businessside of it.
And so she understands how tomarket herself.
She knows the roles that she's.
You know she's not.
She's not one of thoseactresses like um that gets over

(01:10:43):
, sexualized and she.
So in order to compensate, theydo something really fucking
indie and they try to like andthey come out against misogyny
and the male gaze and all thisbullshit.
She's like no, fucking, look atmy tits.
She actually said it.

Josh (01:10:56):
It's awesome.
She said I will not stop doingnude scenes 100%.
She says stuff like that shelives in reality and that's what
I like about her, in my opinion, and I don't give a fuck.
But all the people that areespecially women bashing it's
because you're probably grossthat are like, especially women
bashing it's because you'reprobably gross, yeah, like women
bash other women for being hotdudes when other dudes are more
attractive.
We don't bash them, we just welift them up.

Zach (01:11:17):
Yeah, it's a good looking dude, nice job man no, I'll
crack some jokes at him, ofcourse, but you don't.

Josh (01:11:22):
But we don't lose sleep, no over it knowing.
Or it's like if I see a dudeand little swim trunks and he's
jacked or whatever it's not like.
Can you believe what he'sfucking wearing?

Zach (01:11:30):
yes, I fucking can believe yeah, because if I, look like
that.

Josh (01:11:33):
I do the same thing when I watch reacher.
My god, if I look like thatdude, I would not wear anything
but a tie to work.
But if another chick seesanother chick hot, it's like
look at that disgusting bitchwearing that tiny swimsuit.
Fuck off man.
Sorry.
Hot chicks are cool, dude.

Zach (01:11:47):
Like it's sorry, it's 100, I mean mean just yeah, but she
owns it Like fucking own it.
That's my thing.
It's like don't just accept thereality of the situation.
Thank you, and that's whatshe's doing.

Josh (01:11:59):
But yeah, she got her launch from that show.
I think you're right.
I think that is the show.

Zach (01:12:03):
And what's his name?
I'm saying also it's not likeshe's a shitty actress, it's not
like I'm trying to think ofwho's somebody that really
leaned into their sexuality, butthey're actually not a good
actress or actor.

Josh (01:12:18):
There's some people that are like that.

Zach (01:12:20):
Yeah.
I can think of a ton of nudescenes, but I can't think of any
.
Megan Fox is not a good actress.
No, she's terrible, but she'ssuper hot, she's super fucking
hot.

Josh (01:12:30):
Okay, hold on a sec.
Let me semi-correct you.
She's good in this Is 40.
She does better acting in that.

Zach (01:12:37):
She's better in a comedy role.
I think she does a littlebetter.
Does a little bit better.
Okay, better, okay, a seriousdramatic role she's not good,
she's terrible um, absolutelynot good at all.
Uh, she's just very hot uh butsydney sweeney, we salute you
can fucking play it like she canplay a dramatic role.
Yeah, she does very well, um.

Josh (01:12:57):
So it's not like I'm not just saying, she's just a you
know pair of titties I mean, sheis actually a good actress,
don't forget, right, she's got anice ass, right but she just
happened to be very fucking hot,but she is actually a very good
actress, so I think that helpsher too.

Zach (01:13:11):
Yeah, that also helps.
Maybe the hate.

Josh (01:13:13):
I can think of an actress who wants to be in a sexual role
.
I can think of a few of thosewho is on the cusp of getting
there.
Hit me once.
That's Millie Bobby Brown.
She's on, on her way.
Dude, I'm telling you, I don'tcare what anybody says, called
fucked up or not, and she wants,she has wanted to be in an
adult role since she was 14.
You can go back and watchinterviews and it is so awkward

(01:13:34):
and she may be obviously in thespotlight mature level.
I'm understanding that.

Zach (01:13:38):
But she's exploring.
She broke 18 and now she's 21she's exploring, although I will
say you know, there's sometimeschild actors.
They end up whenever theybecome adults, specifically the
female ones, that sometimes theygo fucking way off.
She doesn't.
Miley Cyrus is an example.

Josh (01:13:58):
Oh yeah, goes way off the fucking deep end.

Zach (01:14:00):
Yeah, Super sexualizes themselves in order to show the
world that they're no longerHannah Montana.
You know she's an adult now.

Josh (01:14:08):
I want to be seen as an adult.

Zach (01:14:10):
The only way they think that they can do that is to be
hypersexual.
It's off-putting, it is.
It's disturbing.
You're like ugh, kind of fuckedup.
Millie Bobby Brown is doingsomething similar, but I think
she's grounded enough becauseshe's not living in L's not
living in in la and hollywood.
She's not in that scene.
They moved out of there.
They moved the fuck out ofthere.
She got married to john bonjovi's kid.

(01:14:32):
Yeah, which is crazy.
Yeah, jake bon jovi seems likea nice kid and, uh, she got
married.
She's like homesteading, she'slike living on a fucking farm,
but but she's experimenting, sheis pushing.
She's experimenting right now.
She's pushing the boundaries.
She just went on, call her,call you, was it call?

Josh (01:14:48):
you call your daddy, call her daddy, call her daddy.
Podcast where she's and she'syou know and that's.
But I think, like you said, Ithink she's navigating the
waters yes, but it's, but it'ssafely.

Zach (01:14:58):
It's clear what she's doing she is sexualizing herself
.
She's also merchandising.
She's telling some oh dudeshe's got the marketing down.
Yeah, she's selling a bunch ofshit, yeah and uh.
But you're right, she is, she'sgonna she's writing this out
and she's gonna eventually do arole to where she may end up
straight up doing nudity.
I don't know, you're gonna be alittle weird.

Josh (01:15:18):
I think it'll be a little odd.
I mean, I think she's a goodactress, she's been in some good
movies, but she is of thatgeneration gen z.

Zach (01:15:23):
They're not into that that much.
She might not.

Josh (01:15:26):
So she might not.
I may be totally wrong.
I'm just going by what I'veseen on social and she's clearly
every week.

Zach (01:15:31):
It seems she's like up in the ante.
Oh, she's a beautiful lady.

Josh (01:15:34):
She is.
She's a beautiful lady.
You know, hey, and you knowwhat, I'm not mad at you.
If you're hot and you want to,I will pay the price of
admission.
Yeah, I was a hot chick.
I would lean into it as well.
Correct, a hundred percent, orI would at least try.

Zach (01:15:50):
Yes.
We talked about it before yearsago.
Hot girl privilege.

Josh (01:15:53):
It's a real thing yeah it's a real thing.

Zach (01:15:55):
We were talking about that with the coworkers this past
week as well.
Tell me, man, where.
I mean basically saying thesame things Like I don't think
there's a bunch of perceivedprivilege that people like to
claim white privilege and maleprivilege and Christian
privilege and all this otherbullshit.
I don't particularly subscribeto that because I think it's a

(01:16:19):
little iffy, but it's hard toprove and it's not universal
enough for me.
Because I mean, there's a lot ofyou know white privilege, as an
example.
There's a bunch of white peoplethat have fucking shit on their
luck and they got fuck all andthey got bad luck, and you know
what I'm saying?
White homeless people all overthe place.

(01:16:40):
Yeah, so, because it's notuniversal enough, but hot girl
privilege.

Josh (01:16:45):
But the hot girl privilege is pretty damn universal.
It's a real thing and I'm notsaying it doesn't take work, but
I just sent you in ourInstagram group where those
OnlyFan girls I didn't researchthis, I don't want to sound like
a douche, but they live in that.
There's a house where all thoseOnlyFan girls live and they
have a name for their group, theBop House, but they bring in

(01:17:07):
$10 million a month in thathouse yeah, a month.
One of those girls makes $4million a month by herself, $4
million in subscriptions.
I'm not a subscriber, I don'tknow what they do.
I'm assuming they do somesexualized stuff.
I don't know.
But that is a.

(01:17:27):
If they did it right and youand they were smart financially
and got the right finance, allthe stuff, you could do that for
what?
Five years, two years and neverwork again in your life.

Zach (01:17:38):
Well, and that's an example of like uh, you know
hyper, uh, that's a hyperexample, example of?

Josh (01:17:43):
yeah, now I'm talking about the less than one, but
like small batch in the only fansphere, right?

Zach (01:17:47):
but even like your, you know average run in the middle,
on the bottom, you know, not,not on the bottom, but like
catfish, the your carp, reallyattractive women get their pick
of the dudes, sure so they'regonna.
You know, I'm saying they'regonna get.
They're gonna get the asuccessful dude.
So even if they're not, youknow making10 million a month or
whatever, as OnlyFan models.
I'm just saying that you don'tsee a lot of 10s that are living

(01:18:12):
on the street.

Josh (01:18:13):
No, that's why also I think we've talked about before
I think sexual harassment stuffis bullshit.
I know it really happens, butwith the workplace stuff it all
depends on.

Zach (01:18:24):
It's a real thing.
It's real in the sense, but Ithink it's also overblown.

Josh (01:18:31):
Yeah, because they give you scenarios when you take the
online courses.
I'm talking about more from awork perspective.
You take the courses and it'slike, hey, nice outfit.
They're like, oh my god, haveyou been on Conrad?
But I'm like, yeah, if that'sthe ugly dude in the office or
the creepy fucker.

Zach (01:18:45):
If that's the ugly dude in the office or the creepy fucker
, yes.

Josh (01:18:46):
But if it's the attractive guy who says, hey, it's one of
those outfit you got on today,you would for real ride that
fucking compliment Right, andyou wouldn't bother you a bit.

Zach (01:18:55):
So it's all up for it's all situational.
Yeah, exactly Right, it alldepends.

Josh (01:18:59):
Uh, yeah, I agree, I don't hot dude, hot girl privilege
Pendulum swings.

Zach (01:19:06):
Look, I'm sure, when women are in the workplace, you know,
decades ago, when they firststarted, you know getting more
positions of power and all thiskind of stuff.
Yeah, well, there's somemisogynistic dudes, some dudes,
you know, taking the jokes toofar or actually being total
fucking creeps, 100% 100%.
You know it was probably prettyprolific.
To where you know, you had the.
The boys club and the womenwere excluded and the only time

(01:19:26):
they were involved is wheneverthe guys were being kind of
pervy creeps I got cat called inthe parking lot the other day.

Josh (01:19:32):
Yeah, it was awesome.
I was carrying a bag ofchipotle across parking lot and
I got cat called yes some ladyin a truck, so you know it was
probably bad.

Zach (01:19:38):
The pendulum is swinging back the other way.
You know what I mean um, towhere, at some point, you know
you can't put people of oppositesex in a you know, close
working environment for aminimum 40 hours a week and
there's not to be some back andforth.

(01:19:59):
You know what I mean, of course, of course, of course, like you
can't have these totallysanitized fucking environments
because that's not real life,that's not how people, people
don't actually interact in thesesanitized ways all the time
what did?
We say the other day that was.

Josh (01:20:13):
It was soul sucking was yes, it was the kind of we got
the whole work tangent yes yeah,I end up calling jake about
that, maybe decades ago there'sa different kind of sucking
going on maybe but now it's justsoul sucking.

Zach (01:20:25):
So you know how do you, like you know, alleviate that
you?
I don't know sexual jokes hereand there.
A little flirting ain't hurtnobody.
Like do people take too far?
Yes, do some people perceive itas taking it too far and it's
not really that big of a fuckingdeal yes, does some one person
ruin it for everyone?
There's nuance yes, nobody paysattention to the fucking

(01:20:47):
someone.

Josh (01:20:47):
Yes, fucking ruin the fun for everybody pretty much.

Zach (01:20:49):
Yes, yes, you know who you are, and that's always.
That's also always been one ofmy things about uh, workplace um
, harassment of any kind, orworkplace safety or any of that.
Why don't you just fucking reamthe dude or the girl that
fucking was involved and tellhim hey, cut that shit out fuck
off, do that.

Josh (01:21:07):
You know, I'm saying no, it has to be a fucking seminar
and everybody's got to watchthis video I like, I like the
memes I've been seeing onlinewhere it just fire that one
person, where it said like itshowed a little kid like get out
of, like a fake toy car, and heslammed the door and he was
like damn it.
And it was like whenever youhave to go to work, to have a
team's meeting with the peoplesitting next to you.

Zach (01:21:24):
Yeah, yeah, right.

Josh (01:21:28):
Yeah, I have to be careful where I share this.

Zach (01:21:30):
But when you say, like you know, one person ruins it for
everybody, they do, you know,instead of them just ruining it
for themselves, and they justget fired or reprimanded over
their fucked up activity.
Now everybody's got to watch agoofy video that they made in
the 90s.
I love those and you know no onetakes them seriously and it's
not like somebody who was apiece of shit that was, you know

(01:21:52):
, sexually harassing all thewomen in the office watches any
of those.
Not one time in the history ofthose videos has a piece of shit
, misogynist, sexist, whateveryou want to call them.
Dude watched one of thosevideos and been like huh, I
didn't realize what I was doing.
I guess I won't do it no more Ididn't know never happened.

Josh (01:22:11):
I didn't know, I couldn't do that.
I didn't know, I couldn't dothat right never has that ever
happened.
Dude those videos are fuckingpointless and nobody watches
them.
Nobody.
Put that bitch on mute and letit the only thing that people
get out of those movies.

Zach (01:22:24):
The of those videos is jokes and we make fun of them
All the time, all the time,anytime I have one Right.
So just so you know people thatmake those, they suck.
You've wasted your life.

Josh (01:22:34):
No.

Zach (01:22:35):
And the goal that you set out to achieve is a total
fucking failure.

Josh (01:22:39):
My favorite, though, is, if you go back to watch that 80s
one, safety.
Safety, like accidents in theworkplace yeah it's like
gruesome.
Those people knew what theywere doing.
Yeah, you want to capture youraudience.
You show a guy get impaled witha fucking forklift yeah, it was
like eating his lunch, yeah, itjust goes through his chest.

Zach (01:22:56):
Have you seen some?
Have you seen real workplaceaccidents?

Josh (01:22:59):
yes, those videos like you get stuck in like a computer.

Zach (01:23:01):
That one girl got her arm in a compressor yes, that one
flattened it straight up andthen it popped back out.
It was like paper thin.
It was fucking gross.

Josh (01:23:08):
Gross, yeah, because it's a hydraulic press Gross, and
that's all where that one dudegot caught up in that spindle.
Oh dude, they're horrible.

Zach (01:23:14):
Yeah, dude, they're hard to watch.
It was like a paper mill orsomething like that.

Josh (01:23:21):
And the dude algorithm was like accidentally, a dude
walked out, it was a, it was aparrot, like a life flight dude
walked in the fucking propeller.
Yeah, it caught him in the faceand they showed the x-ray and
he survived it.
Like fucking chopped half hisskull.
It was fucked up.
I couldn't believe he survivedit, bro.

Zach (01:23:37):
No, no, thank you no yeah, yeah, I've seen more death and
destruction on instagram in thepast few years than I ever have
in my entire life yeah, we sharea lot of lot of fucked up
things on that.
Yeah, we do.
It only makes it worse, and Ieven took a few weeks off of
that thing, yeah, and I cameback.
I wasn't going to say this atthe time, but I was like give it
two weeks, and it was about twoweeks, yeah.
So how much time do we have?

Josh (01:23:58):
How much time do we have?
We I took, I ended upseparating work and I separated
phones.
Yes, I ended up getting toseparate.
I've never been able toseparate from work and because
I've always the way the fieldI'm in, the field you're in, is
it's 24 seven.
Yeah, so I separated to where Icould not have work when I'm
not working.
It was nice to turn my phoneoff and put it in a drawer,

(01:24:20):
which was weird the first coupleof days.
You had to have a physicalseparation.
To actually separate, yeah,because, if not, you know, call
it work ethic, call it whateverit is.
I would check stuff even whenI'm not on call, like I'd like,
for example, tonight, likesunday, I would check emails
ahead of time you were alwaysavailable what was coming in
from monday morning.
Well, if there's somethingshitty that I know I have to do
on monday, it's going to ruin mysunday evening because I don't

(01:24:41):
do something stupid on monday.
Now I come in.
Whatever happens, happens it's,it's having that day.
And then on the weekend, like,of course, I gave my contact,
like to people that matterobviously if they need me uh, so
I did, but then I did a.
You know, this, this time ofyear I've talked about before,
where my mental state's allfucked up for this seasonal
depression is a real thing.
Fuck you if you don't know whatit is research?
It is a real body changingfucked up thing.

Zach (01:25:04):
I'm, I can feel me, I'm coming out of it straight up.
I'm not out of it yet I'm out,I'm coming, I give.
Well, yeah, I'm not full.
I've been trying some things.
I feel myself coming out of it,fix it, um.

Josh (01:25:15):
but then I was like social media is so I, it's good, I'm
not living the life I'm supposedto.
If you don't do these things,you're not hustling.

(01:25:36):
If you don't do this diet, ifyou don't do these things, your
family stuff, if you don't dothis with your kids, you're not
raising them right.
If you're not doing thesethings, you're a fucked up
person.

Zach (01:25:45):
If you're not dunking your face into a bowl of ice water
four times a day, like yourworkouts are wrong.

Josh (01:25:50):
You should be writing down a gratitude book, you should be
doing all these things, andthen I get to, as I'm in my dull
job, it is what it is.
Then you just sit in it.
You're just swimming, watchingother people only show the best
parts of their life.
Well then it's like, okay, it'sTuesday and I'm in a meeting
and this guy is on a Tuesday andhe's with all of his friends

(01:26:12):
who don't work.
Nine to fives are having thebest fucking time and I'm like
this fucking sucks.
I don't want to do this.
And then, of course, this timeof year you get into and, like I
, have a really wonderful life.
Sometimes you have to kind ofsit back.
I'm not ungrateful.
I want people to be like youshould be grateful for what you
have but if you're alwayscomparing, I do know I'm not

(01:26:35):
retarded, I know what and I cansay that now daddy's in office,
uh, I know what's happening.
Like I know that, like all thegood, like I'm happy that I woke
up, I'm grateful, grateful forall that stuff.
But like when you get in the,in that mindset, that social
media, and you're on it for fuck, like eight hours a day, yeah,
and you look back and you'rejust like dude, I was like I
have to take a break.

(01:26:55):
Now, granted, two weeks isusually what I do two, three
weeks because like a detox.
Well then I forget, becausethere's also that I talk to only
through there, that are likegood friends of mine that I only
speak to through there.
But then also remember too andthis is another shitty part of
it when you do a break and youdon't hear from anyone, like

(01:27:16):
even when you get back on social, just know that about 90% of
the people you think care, don'tgive a fuck about you, like
just remember they don't care,like they don't care.
Most people I are, and even froma from when you interact with
people, honestly they're they'llinteract with you a few times,
but after that, like if theycan't get anything out of you,
like nothing, if they don'tbenefit from talking to you,
they're not going to speak toyou anymore, like they're not

(01:27:37):
going to take that relationshipany farther it's completely
transactional, it's a hundredpercent transactional, like I
had to take a step back andrealize, like this whole like
fantasy, where I like messagepeople and it's like this whole
big thing, like, oh, we're likechumming it up, no, we're not,
don't give a fuck about you andthey don't have to, you're not
in there, when these people haveall these millions of followers
or all this stuff like that.
I don't think it's to be adouche, it's just you're not on,

(01:27:59):
you're not on their menu, justan online thing.
And I just got too involved init.
I had to get out.
Yeah, I was too up with it andI'll probably do it again at
some point.
I wish I could just cold turkeyit all, but I use it too.
I kept my business stuff, likemy clothing brand.
I kept that Instagram and Ikept this one, because that feed

(01:28:22):
is also just things I like.
My personal feed has like 4,000people I'm following and you
can't unfollow a group of people.
The two businessmen I have arejust developed around things
that I like.
It's not hustlers and live thelife you should.
It's not any of that on thosepages.

Zach (01:28:37):
I heard somebody explain it.

Josh (01:28:40):
It maybe just means that I'm fucked up.

Zach (01:28:42):
It wasn't really attributed to social media abuse
or overuse, like we all do.
But and I'm a victim of this aswell I'm not a victim, I'm a
you partake, I partake I don'twant to use the word victim
because it's not like no, no,I'm not either.

Josh (01:28:57):
Set upon me and I have no.
This is power against me.

Zach (01:29:00):
Yes, my own uh, you know I'm a prison of my own making,
but I heard someone.
He's kind of an influencer type, I guess you could call it, but
he's an entrepreneur and allthis kind of stuff and sometimes
I follow those accounts justbecause I like to, whenever I am
feeling motivated.
Those accounts sometimes giveme a little motivation, be like

(01:29:22):
all right, fuck it, I'm going todo some shit today.
Yeah, this guy is out here,he's making it happen.
I'm gonna make something happentoday, you know.
So I see, as kind of amotivator, I'll get ideas maybe
out of it and there's that too.

Josh (01:29:33):
That's why I said it's his take on.

Zach (01:29:36):
It wasn't just social media, but it was just anything
that he does in general, and Ithink this is a probably.
He says that he's everythingthat he.
He just goes through lifethinking about things.
As far as energy, they have anenergy to them and I was like,
okay, what is this kind ofmystic bullshit he's about to?

(01:29:56):
spout but then he kind of walkedthrough it.
He's like if I sit on my phoneand I scroll through reels for
an hour, it doesn't add anything.
It's taking energy.
Now I'm tired, or my brain is.
I've been going through allthese reels and now I'm mentally

(01:30:17):
tired.
It's negative energy.
It's taking energy away from me, when I could have spent that
hour adding energy.
I could have been working outor I could have been reading a
book or working on my businessor whatever he does.
I'm adding to it.
He said even the small thingslike going outside.
I'm literally in the sun.
I'm absorbing fucking the rays,getting vitamin D.

(01:30:41):
So he starts focusing his mindaround things that either add to
or take away energy, and that'show he described it.
Sounds a little mystic and I'mnot into the mystic, you know.
You know spiritual but notreally I'm not into that
bullshit.
Yeah, but there is chakras, butI guess it's.
It's all about a mindset, andhe's put himself into a mindset
to where, if he treats things inthat way it's he sees

(01:31:04):
everything differently throughthat.
He sees everything through thatprism now, and obviously that's
what everything is kind ofabout success and failure, and
you know, whether you're happywith your life or not happy with
your life, or doing things thatyou're supposed to be doing or
doing things that you're notsupposed to be doing, it's all
about mindset.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
And he has found a way to beable to put himself into a

(01:31:27):
positive mindset by thinkingabout things differently.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, and I think there'ssomething to that.
And so what you're saying islike you know there's nothing
wrong with social media, but ifyou're in a mindset to where
compare?
You're just constantlycomparing yourself to where
you're looking at those videosand you're like, and I'm sitting
in this fucking shitty job andthese guys are hanging out and

(01:31:47):
having a blast on a fuckingTuesday.
It's FOMO, all it does is justfuel your rage.
Yeah, it's all negative, that'sa negative energy right.
To what he's kind of what he'stalking about.
So you should definitely detoxand get off of that.
Mine is not necessarily like acomparison thing, but I just get
Doom Scroll.
I could have spent that twohours Doom Scrolling.

(01:32:07):
I could have been doingsomething else.
That's kind of.

Josh (01:32:13):
I don't know if I think one day I would like to
completely drop.
I wish it would just.

Zach (01:32:18):
I don't like access.

Josh (01:32:21):
I think we all have too much access because everybody
self-diagnoses themselves.
Everybody reads all the worldnews.
It's just like a constant feedof stimulation and, quite
frankly, bullshit yeah like youcan look at it like
statistically, like 85 of thethings you dwell on are not
happening, or to yourself orpeople around, when you're like,
well, maybe it's just and youget on good, like it's just.

(01:32:44):
Sometimes I was like I don'twant to fucking know anything.
Like I told my dad that theywere talking, I said how the
fuck did anyone get on withanything 25, 30 years ago?
How do we fucking manageanything?
Yeah, people just didn't thinkabout the shit that we think
about now.
Well, I mean you got old folksI'm in my family too that
fucking smoked eat like shit andlive to be 95 and not a fucking

(01:33:04):
care in the world.

Zach (01:33:05):
Well, there's something about.
You're talking about access,this information overload, and
people have talked about thisbefore.
It's nothing new I'm coming upwith, but it's that, with so
much access to the world'sevents, people find it a lot
easier to attach themselves to aposition.
Just put in whatever position.

(01:33:25):
Say, your thing is climatechange, okay, fine, sure, people
find it a lot easier toresearch and look into and have
an opinion and voice thatopinion and go back and forth
with people on social mediaabout X, say climate change, or
you know Palestine, or you knowimmigrants or whatever the fuck.

(01:33:47):
You put in, whatever you want.
People find a lot easier toattach themselves to a position
and argue that position and tryto advance their position over
social media than actuallyfixing shit in their own life,
because that's actually harder,do you think?
So it's a lot easier to justargue about these big concepts
that are far-reaching, you know,either across the world or

(01:34:10):
across the country or whatever.
They have these far-reachingimplications and they're going
to take a stand and fight andactivists and all this kind of
crap.
Because that's a lot easier.
Because, at the end of the day,if it doesn't actually succeed,
well, it's just because it's along road ahead.
And you know you may notaccomplish anything like the
climate activists know you maynot accomplish anything like the
climate activists, you may notaccomplish a fucking thing, but

(01:34:31):
you were part of a movement andyou've advanced the movement
forward.
Meanwhile, your like personallife is kind of shit.
Well, do you think you knowwhat I mean?
Because it's easier to do thatthing than it is to actually do
what you're supposed to do inyour own life.

Josh (01:34:47):
Do you think that stems from the majority of folks and I
know there's exceptions to therule Do you think the majority
of folks, especially people thatyou're describing, are just?
I think everyone's just lookingfor a place to belong.

Zach (01:35:01):
Well, I think that's what I'm saying.
My overall point is they attachthemselves to these movements
and these things because it'seasier that they're taking the
easy way out instead of doingthe hard thing, like everybody.
It's the same thing.

Josh (01:35:15):
Everybody just wants to take a fucking pill to fix their
problems instead of doing thehard thing that's necessary for
me, because I and I mentioned toyou guys about therapy and
stuff, but like I have people, Ican just like.
I always feel better if I cantalk to somebody.

Zach (01:35:28):
Yeah.

Josh (01:35:29):
I think more people just need to be able to talk.
So, even if it's one part, yougot to talk to somebody,
especially for us men, becausewe don't talk about our feelings
.
Like I have a few people that Ican talk to about unbiased
opinions, but I'm not talkingabout like, of course, I have my
parents and I have a wife andall that, but sometimes I don't
want a solution.
I want you just to shut up andlisten and then I want you to

(01:35:50):
talk about your problems too,and I want us to have that
conversation, have thatrelationship to where we might
have something in common, like,okay, cool, and you just end up
feeling better about it.
They always do that.
Anytime your friends or someoneyou know it's hard to say or
someone kills themselves,they're like well, I should have
talked to him and stuff.
I'm like, well, we don't.
Like you might go months ormonths without you.
Like I usually call people andbe like hey, what's going on?

(01:36:13):
Like what's up?
How are you doing Like what'swhat's up?
Like with this group?
Because, well, I feel that sameway too about that particular
subject.
Maybe this is where I belong.

Zach (01:36:28):
Let me get in here with this shit startup crew yeah, and
when you do that you don't haveto actually succeed in the
thing.
No.
It's just vocalizing youropinion and being part of this
movement is accomplishmentenough.
You don't actually have toaccomplish the goal.

Josh (01:36:46):
I think that also adds to the disconnect people have like
as far as people to people likeyou don't see, like yeah
everybody's done, everything'sdone through the internet, yeah,
so you have you don't havepeople like I mean, if I can go
to you, go to a coffee shop andno one speaks yeah, everyone's
on the on the internet orthey're with their own world.
There's no more like conversingin a group.

Zach (01:37:05):
No, people don't know what to do.
People don't treat peopleindividually anymore.
They treat them as sides.
They're on my side and they'reon the other side.
Right, you're of whatever Xissue.
Sometimes it kind of glomstogether, but there's the
climate activists and thenthere's the climate deniers.
There's nobody in between.

(01:37:26):
I think it's just.

Josh (01:37:26):
It's how everybody sees it trying to find somewhere to
belong.
You know, if you, like you said, if your personal life is
shitty, you don't have arelationship with anybody, you
don't have anyone to go to, youdon't have friends, you don't
have church, you don't have awork group, you don't have
anything, if you work from home.

Zach (01:37:37):
That's all you know and if you live your entire life
online like here's anotherexample is like you know you,
you would see people as like oh,that's an anti-vaxxer.
No, actually, that's Bob.
He lives down.
He's your fucking neighbor.

Josh (01:37:49):
You know what I?

Zach (01:37:49):
mean yeah, it's you know what I mean.
So or you know that's he.
He goes to the same store asyou do you actually.

Josh (01:38:11):
I didn't the human element out of all of these positions,
and they don't treat people likepeople anymore.
They treat them as sides of anissue.
I think that's why you also Istart to hear nowadays too, like
the last five years or so,where people are, I hear more
people say they hate beingaround people.
They don't like crowds.
I don't like people like Idon't like gross people.

Zach (01:38:20):
I don't, yeah, but I don't I don't like crowds, I don't
mind, that's just a that's not athat's not that disliking
people, it's just, it's the I'mtalking like I have friends.

Josh (01:38:29):
The fucking noise of it all, like just are totally
stimulus, yeah, I sometimes I'mjust like fuck, I just don't
want to be around this.

Zach (01:38:36):
Maybe I just want to.
I mean, I'm kind of like that,you know me I'm.
I'm like a um what they?

Josh (01:38:42):
well, yeah, extroverted, introvert, you have a social
meter, I have a and when it'sfucking tapped out, I got to
bounce.
But I've met folks that arelike just despise other people
as far as people in general, andI'm not talking about yeah, I
don't walk into a stadium and bebumper to bumper with somebody
Like I get.
Obviously You're talking aboutlike motherfucker, this is the

(01:39:05):
way the world works.
There's going to be people here.
I don't want to tell you.

Zach (01:39:10):
People make all the shit.
You have what they mean.
I think what the people meanwhen they say they don't want to
go to the store because there'speople there is because they
don't want to take the.
Don't really leave my house infucking rags.
Like I put my clothes.
I put clothes on.

(01:39:30):
I'm not walking out of thishouse in fucking pajamas, I got
you.
When people do that, it drivesme fucking nuts.

Josh (01:39:37):
I hate it so much.
We went to the soccer fieldsand a guy walked out younger
dude in like pink flannel pajamapants, yes, and as he walks out
into some shitty t-shirt, hishair's all fucked up.
Yeah, he's like fixing his dick.

Zach (01:39:50):
Right His underwear.

Josh (01:39:50):
I'm like well, you just you just came out and you were
like this is what I'm gonna weartoday, like if it's if it's in
the middle of the fucking nightand you like you know you,
that's fine, nobody's out,everyone's asleep.
That's fine.

Zach (01:40:05):
It's an emergency, you've got to run, you don't need time
to dress appropriately, but ifit's in the middle of the day,
the day is going on, put somefucking normal clothes on.
So what people really say whenthey don't I think when they say
I don't want to be aroundpeople or I don't want to see
people is what it is is theydon't want to put the effort to
actually put some fucking normalclothes on and they don't want

(01:40:27):
to run into anybody that theyknow.

Josh (01:40:29):
Yeah, because I don't like gross people.
Gross people make meuncomfortable.
What's your description?
It's like when I see thismongoloid in a group wearing
yesterday's pajamas yes, andtheir hair's greasy.

Zach (01:40:39):
Girls are the biggest offenders.
Generally, I think girls are thebiggest offenders Hot take Hot.
I think girls are the biggestoffenders of this Hot.
Take right here.
Girls.
You know you do this.
You know you fucking run out ofthe house in some raggedy-ass
sweats and bullshit.
You need to put some normal-assclothes on and actually be a
part of the day, but with oneexception.

Josh (01:40:56):
You can do that if you're hot.
Again hot privilege trumpseverything.

Zach (01:41:02):
Everything.
In fact you should wear literalr rags like tattered into
pieces to where we can seethings estella warren, tim
burton's uh right, yes, likepost-apocalyptic you can wear
those like, yes, like aloincloth like yes.

Josh (01:41:17):
What we're saying is you can dress like a slob if you're
hot yes, it sounds shallow.

Zach (01:41:21):
Even if the clothes are like a little dirty, it doesn't
matter, you're hot.

Josh (01:41:24):
You're still hot anytime we see something like can't
believe that, yeah, becausethey're hot, like she's hot,
it's fine.
I just want to make sureeveryone knew that we were not
right.
You can't be gross and busted.

Zach (01:41:32):
That's what we're saying that is, uh, I think that's.
That is the supreme law.
It sits above everything else.
That we say is if you're hot,you can get away that's what I
ask people.

Josh (01:41:41):
I'll hear like people bantering.
They're like you know.
Can you believe that person didthe yada yada?
I'm like was she hot?
Does that matter?
Yeah, it is the most, it's theonly thing that matters in this
conversation, because if she'sfucking crazy, I'm like you
can't be gross and a bitch, yes.

Zach (01:41:59):
Sorry, yes, Like if you saw.
I mean listen, ladies, don'tact like you're, you know, above
the aesthetics here either.
Yeah, if you were in thegrocery store and you were
walking by Jack Black in afucking you know tank top and
sweat and sweats, you'd be like,oh, but it wasn't Jack Black,
it was like a Jack Black.

(01:42:19):
You can just say an IT guy, yeah, and you're like you're like
you would like you know, go onthe other side of the aisle
whenever he walked past.
You fucking would like you know, go on the other side of the
aisle whenever he walked past.
You fucking know it right.

Josh (01:42:31):
But if it was insert, you know super ripped dude, you know
, or just a really attractiveguy attractive guy.

Zach (01:42:34):
Right, it was uh fucking hot dude, henry cavill, walking
by and he was wearing the exactsame fucking thing sweats and a
tank top.
Yeah, you know, you would finda reason to bump into him.

Josh (01:42:46):
I think just a nice face in general for dudes.
If you got the chiseled cheek,whatever.

Zach (01:42:52):
Girls, don't act like you're above the physical
appearance.
We're just a bunch of grossapes over here.
Now you can.
You all subscribe to this ruleas well.

Josh (01:43:04):
When you're hot, you can get away with some shit.
I just like how I had to getthat.
You can't be to this rule aswell.
Yeah, back to what you're hot,you can get away with some shit.
I just like how I had to get tohere Like you can't be dressing
like that unless you're hot,unless you're.
Did we say something about thatdude from Euphoria?
That's a.
It's a dude.

Zach (01:43:15):
He, she Tits.

Josh (01:43:15):
Yeah, we're like yeah, but dude's got nice tits.

Zach (01:43:27):
Yeah, gray, out there, it's getting a little gray, that
particular guy.

Josh (01:43:29):
Yeah, unless you know, we see the hardware sometimes first
.
I've seen the hardware, yeah,but like the added hardware
first glance.

Zach (01:43:34):
If you never saw the hardware, no one ever told you
like, hey, you know that used tobe a dude.
My, you know my mind alreadywent there.
I'm sorry, it already wentthrough the system.
It's been ran it went throughthe system and they passed, yeah
, and then I get informationlater and I'm like oh, so
there's can I see your teeth.
The system isn't perfect.

(01:43:55):
That's all I'm saying.
Sometimes some, some, somethings slip through the yeah
through the cracks thatparticular situation.
I was like surgeons are gettingreal good these days.

Josh (01:44:05):
Well, makeup does a lot of work, that one was done really
well.
Yes, cause I had a friend ofmine that did not know.

Zach (01:44:12):
I didn't.
When I first started watchingthat show euphoria I didn't pick
.
I must've missed a piece ofdialogue, uh, and I didn't know
for like half the fucking seasonone, and then there was one
season with a scene where theylike laid down on the bed and I
was, like is?

Josh (01:44:26):
that a dick.
I did the same thing, holy shit, yeah.
And then I think that's now.
I don't know if it's stillthere or not, but I've seen
interviews with what's dudefixed up.
It's a pretty woman.

Zach (01:44:35):
Yeah.

Josh (01:44:35):
That's all I'm going to say Sorry, dude's got nice tits.
It is what it is.
If you're going to do it,that's 100% man.
100% male Will never be a woman.
But nice tits, as MatthewMcConaughey says, don't half-ass
it.

Zach (01:44:55):
That's what his dad said Whatever you do, don't half-ass
it.
When you're hot, you get awaywith a lot of shit.
When you're hot, you're hotSorry.
I mean, you know, if it was.
You don't see a lot of examples, at least maybe not in popular
media of female to male.

Josh (01:45:14):
Oh yeah.
Well you know what I?

Zach (01:45:16):
mean, you mean like good ones, yeah, yeah, to where they
pass 100% and they fool you.

Josh (01:45:21):
I saw some on some Instagram one time that I've
sent to you, you guys, and I waslike can y'all believe this?
And I was like no way likethat's actually a woman yeah, it
was yeah like, but convertedover and it's I mean I'm talking
about beard bicep like?
Look like straight up.

Zach (01:45:39):
But it looks like a, like a, like a 10, like a 10 on a
dude on the female I'm talkinglike a seven, like a seven or
eight women would be like oh,that's a hot ass dude.

Josh (01:45:47):
Yes.

Zach (01:45:48):
Yeah.

Josh (01:45:49):
Not very many.
Usually the transition is ascratch CD.

Zach (01:45:53):
Yeah, I think it's rare yeah.

Josh (01:45:55):
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't.
You know, it's not something Isearch daily, but if it comes
across I gotta know or I'll belike, is that?
Let Let me look real quick.
That's got to be.

Zach (01:46:05):
Just imagine you see a ripped-ass dude like the Rock or
Jason Momoa Just fucking rippedbig-ass dude and got a pussy.
That's fucking wild.

Josh (01:46:19):
I follow a former pro wrestler who is now a woman.
I follow him because it's agreat page for nutrition.
They're a big nutritionist andworkout and I love the content.
So I was like whatever dude,but I love the content.

Zach (01:46:36):
There's a political commentator that I do follow.
That I really only followbecause they have an unorthodox
take on the whole trans issue.
Being trans themselves, they'reactually on the right, blair
white is the name of the.

Josh (01:46:50):
I think I've heard of that .

Zach (01:46:51):
I've heard that name and so I do follow, follow them um
yeah, whatever you can say, it'sfine, um, it's our show,
because they they're not crazyand they actually.
That's how they actually thethe way that, uh, it would say
it was.
They say it openly.
I know I'm not a woman, but I'mcosplaying as one because it's

(01:47:13):
the only way I can feel betterabout myself.
I'm a rarity and blah, blah,blah and all this kind of stuff.

Josh (01:47:19):
I don't know Blair.

Zach (01:47:20):
White.
Yeah, blair White, that's adude.
Normal that's a dude.
They got a normal take.
I don't just agree witheverything that they say in this
particular shoot.

Josh (01:47:32):
We're not cruel people yeah right.
Wow, I didn't know that was adude.

Zach (01:47:37):
That's what I'm saying.
I think it's harder for women.

Josh (01:47:40):
The other way around.

Zach (01:47:41):
I've seen a couple that female to male, man to woman or
woman to man, where it's a womantrying to pass as a dude.
Usually they don't do it aswell.

Josh (01:47:54):
Yeah, there again, you have to be hot.

Zach (01:47:56):
Well, I think it's because women are also smaller in
general.
And they have a certain shape.
Sure.
Right, that just looks weird asa dude.

Josh (01:48:07):
Yeah.

Zach (01:48:07):
And they can't grow the hair, the facial hair.
But some of them, I don't know,I've seen ones with straight up
beards.

Josh (01:48:12):
How much money you got.
I've saw a dude Dude had agreat beard.

Zach (01:48:15):
And I've seen those jokes online.
It was like oh, you're not ugly, You're just poor.
Exactly right.

Josh (01:48:19):
Yeah, you're just poor.
Happiness.
That's just something poorpeople say.
That's 100%.
Yeah, shut up it does.
It would fix 99.9% of yourproblems.
I shared that with you theother day where it was like a
study was done.

Zach (01:48:30):
It was like, yes, money can bring happiness and
apparently there's no limit toit.
Yeah, 100%.

Josh (01:48:38):
If you don't agree with that, you're stupid.
I'm sorry, I will die on thathill.
You're an idiot pretty muchyeah like it.
I'm not saying it will make youif you're a shitty person, I
mean you're a better person butit's gonna fix no, it's gonna
fix all your problems make you abetter person.
That's not the conversation fixyour problems will it make you
happier?

Zach (01:48:56):
yes, yeah, that's.
That's what we're talking.
We're not saying will it?
Will it bring you more joy?
Will it make your life morefulfilled?
That's not not the questionHappiness is a very specific
emotion.

Josh (01:49:08):
And it's up to you and it is fleeting.

Zach (01:49:09):
Yeah, right, but if you have more money and keep it
going, you can keep that feelinggoing.
That's exactly right.

Josh (01:49:13):
If you're chasing that feeling you can chase it longer.

Zach (01:49:16):
Exactly.

Josh (01:49:17):
Now, like I get bored with my'm sad.
Yes, could I buy more thingswhen?
I'm sad Instead of a t-shirt, Ican buy a truck Exactly.

Zach (01:49:33):
It has diminishing returns .
Yes, so I need more money tobuy more stuff faster so that I
can keep up.
We sound like drug addicts.

Josh (01:49:44):
Are you going to take on new problems with that money?
Yeah, of course you will,depending on the amount,
whatever what is?
And are you going to take onnew problems with that money?
Yeah, sure, of course you will,depending on the amount,
whatever.
But yeah, don't tell me it'snot.
It would.
There'd be signs if I had a lotof money, exactly.

Zach (01:49:53):
Being poor.
It makes things harder, Ofcourse.
It does Obviously Ask a poorperson.

Josh (01:49:58):
Why You're right is giving away money.
Yeah, you know how he'simproving.
Anytime he sees someone on thephone, he's like, hey, what's
going on?
I brought you this jacket.
Do you know what would makethis day better?
They're like what, this $5,000cash?
Yeah, you think this would helpyour trials and tribulations.

Zach (01:50:16):
Fuck, yes, it would.
And even the people that say,well, you need to go through
hardship is actually what moldsyou and makes you, you know,
develop better and you'rewhatever.
But at the end of the day, like, what is the point of just
trudging along and fuckinggrinding and you never become
successful?

(01:50:37):
Yeah, like then it just thenyou're just living in and suck
the entire living on what could?
yeah, that's right, so even thepeople that say, oh, you know,
you got to work hard and you gotto grind, so it's like, yeah,
but then you got there and nowyou have money, and that's the
happy and then the happy parthappens Like?

Josh (01:50:54):
is your schedule the same now?

Zach (01:50:56):
Is it?
really.

Josh (01:50:57):
Is the hustle the same?
Now that you're amultimillionaire.
Give me a.
Give me a fucking.
Is it really?
Maybe some Come on, give me abreak Would?

Zach (01:51:03):
you still be doing all the hard work and the hustle if it
never paid off?
Fuck no.
Fuck no, dude, get the fuck outof here.

Josh (01:51:10):
Life's too short, piss off .

Zach (01:51:12):
Oh, I know it's like that influencer is making the rounds
now.
I don't know if you've seen him.
It's Ashton something.

Josh (01:51:18):
The guy with the glass water bottles and shit.
Fuck him.
Years ago, jeff Bezos said ittoo, and I'm not knocking the
dude Like I'm not a 1%, I'm notgoing to ever do what he's done.
That's not the point I'm making, but similar comments, similar
perception.
He was talking about, like youknow, everybody should just

(01:51:39):
relax and like wake up, like at10, you know, and do these
things.
He's talking about what he does, like we can't fucking do that.
Like that guy, that huge I meanhe's built like a brick
shithouse.
Good looking dude.
You talking about that big buffblack guy.

Zach (01:51:50):
Yeah.

Josh (01:51:51):
Wakes up at whatever and like, takes his mouth tape off
because he sleeps I don't know,alone or whatever.
The fuck that works, thatbeautiful woman that brings his
water.

Zach (01:51:59):
Yeah.

Josh (01:52:11):
And then pulls that off.
Is it alkaline?

Zach (01:52:11):
water yeah, it's not even labeled.
Pours in the bowl yeah, it'snot even for like he drinks that
water too, but like he's too,like his face is too good for
tap water whenever he's justtrying to get a little face cold
plunge like you got to use.
Like I don't bottle water.
It's not even plastic's, likein a glass bottle, apparently
like the stock price for thatcompany, that water company,
fucking skyrocketed after thevideo.
Is it a fuck care you?

Josh (01:52:33):
know what I saw, that I didn't want to buy any of that
shit, none of it.
You know what I want to do.
I was like I'm going to showyou a video.
Actually fucking looks like.
Yeah, when everybody's like hewakes up feeling incredible, I'm
like no, I fucking don't.
Yeah, sometimes I didn't sleepvery well.
Sometimes I get up and I don'thave two bottles of water before

(01:52:55):
I get up.
Maybe I do go straight to thecoffee pot.
Wait, watch me take a piss inthe morning.

Zach (01:53:00):
The point you make about Jeff Bezos is he didn't do any
of that shit.
He just had an idea, he had adream, he had a passion and he
fucking ran it down and he didgreat and he didn't stop right.
You don't have to do.
That's what kills me about theinfluencer types like that is
that they think that by doingthis particular ritual is the

(01:53:21):
reason why they're successful.
And I don't like the idea that,unless you do all this weird,
crazy wake up in the markwalberg does that bullshit.
Fuck him, fuck him like.
That's not the reason why hedoing all that crap is not the
reason why he, mark walberg, wassuccessful who's gonna play
golf?
at fucking noon.
That's the dude was successfulis because he just didn't stop.

(01:53:42):
He just ran it down.
He was a good looking dude backin the day.
He had some talent.

Josh (01:53:46):
I'm not saying he didn't work hard Right.

Zach (01:53:49):
But to say that like you got to do all this weird ritual
bullshit and that's like the keyto success.
Fuck you, that's so stupid.

Josh (01:53:57):
Show us what you used to do to get to where you are.

Zach (01:54:00):
And if you made it.

Josh (01:54:01):
Why are?

Zach (01:54:02):
you still doing it, like obviously that stuff is like
weird and time, like you'rewaking up at four in the morning
and he didn't they're doing thevideo.
He didn't do fuck all untilnine o'clock.
So for five fucking hours hewas just like doing this ritual.
And yeah, I guess he ran on thetreadmill.
I didn't see him lift.
He ran on the treadmill.
He kind of like stood on hisbalcony for a little bit.

(01:54:24):
He of like stood on his balconyfor a little bit.
He swam for like 10 minutes.
He's chilled in the pool likehe journaled, he watched a bit
like he did a bunch of nothingfor five hours.

Josh (01:54:34):
But you know what I mean.
Like show us, if you want itI'm guessing here, like,
especially for mark walberg likeokay, we know where you are now
.
Now that you have what kevinhart says is the beauty of money
is free time to do the thingsyou want to do.

Zach (01:54:49):
Well, like Rob McElhaney when he talked about it, he's
like how do you get this body?
He's like listen, I'm not goingto say that I don't have the
advantage here because I've gota chef and a personal trainer.
No, you can't get this body.
You can't get this body, youdon't have time to do this.

Josh (01:55:12):
I do because I have money and I can pay someone to do it
for me, so show us like, show uswhat you, what you had to do,
like mark warburg wasn't doingthose things when he was trying
to make it.
No, like don't show us whatmoney has allowed you to have
this, because if I was amillionaire I could show you my
routine.
Yes, get up when the sun comesup, ground myself in the grass
my fucking feet, like whatever.
Yeah, but no, that's notshowing eight to fivers fucking
and also that's not foreverybody.

Zach (01:55:33):
The whole point of the one percent of these high
performing people is that ifeverybody did it, then you,
you're no longer special.

Josh (01:55:40):
So not everybody can do this it's okay and I will say
this and maybe just for my ownbenefit, it's okay to be an
eight to fiver.
I just want everybody to knowthat it's okay, it's okay, you
don't have to be these high,whatever those kind of people
are called.

Zach (01:55:53):
But watching that.
I wouldn't want to do thatWatching that.
Why would I want to get up atfour in the morning to do a
bunch of weird shit that?

Josh (01:56:01):
to me like I just don't better as somebody who's pretty
active and tries to do thethings yes and who's a medical
hypochondriac, right?
I mean, did you really feelthat much better by doing those
things?

Zach (01:56:11):
yes, like and fuck you.
That's.
That's my thing about that,especially that guy's videos
like the first meeting heactually like, does or takes or
whatever, which is I guess hisjob is and I think he's a, he's
a lifestyle coach or some shithe's's probably he might be good
at it, he does like a, a zoommeeting or whatever, like at
nine o'clock, Right, but he wokeup before 4 am, yeah, so you're

(01:56:32):
trying to tell and andobviously his job is what makes
his money, and he was talkingabout, well, I guess we'll just
say 10,000 or whatever he sayson the video.
So range in that one fuckingcall, right?
Okay, fine, so he makes a bunchof money and obviously the
stuff that he buys and where helives he's a very wealthy dude,
right, and he's self-made,apparently.
Okay, fine, you can't tell methat you have to do all this

(01:56:56):
bullshit, for five hourstranslates to tens of thousands
of dollars in this deal.
I know that you can truncatethat and you can minimize that
five hours down to an hour ortwo to get yourself ready for
the day.
You ain't got to do fuckingfive hours of whatever the hell

(01:57:17):
that was.
Like, look at Elon Musk, forfuck's sake.
The dude is in the shape of afucking potato, he's not doing
all that bullshit and he's therichest man in the world.
Yeah, I don't know, he's notwaking up at fucking 4 am and
putting bananas on his face.
It's social media man.

Josh (01:57:35):
We all watched it.

Zach (01:57:36):
It's so stupid.
It's views.
We watched it, I know.
I know it's so dumb.

Josh (01:57:42):
I know that people run their businesses.
I use social media and AI forbusiness stuff and we use it for
this and, like you said, it'snot going anywhere.
You can't just cut the cord onit.

Zach (01:57:53):
It's got its place.
It's got its place.
Just don't bullshit us.
That's bullshit.
I'm sorry that dude doing allthat and people like that it's
bullshit.
Yeah, it doesn't impress me.

Josh (01:58:04):
No, there's the dave and goggins people.
There's the I like cameronhaynes.
There's some people that arehigh performers that you know
that do a realistic thing like.
But you know it's also likejerry seinfeld did an interview
a while back where he wastalking about why is everything
just about money?
And it's.
This motherfucker is loadedyeah they wanted to all just
become about money.
Yeah, yeah, what do you mean?
It's easy to say you can't saythat stupid yeah.

Zach (01:58:29):
And exactly right, it's easy to say that.
Say that to the people that aretrying to make ends meet, who
can't buy fucking groceries?
Exactly.

Josh (01:58:35):
I don't want to listen to rich.

Zach (01:58:39):
If their car broke down, they're going to have to start
taking the fucking bus becausethey don't have the money to
repair their car.

Josh (01:58:49):
You, they don't have the money to repair their car.
You know like that.
Well, it is kind of shitty too.
I heard on a differentperspective.
If you're gonna, if you flip it, flip the script.
It's like when all those housesgot burned up and lost in in
california.
Yeah, everybody was just kindof like, yeah, you'll buy
another one, you're amillionaire, what are you crying
about?
Where it's kind of like damnman, like yeah, have a little
humility about that.
It still sucks.
The dude's like lost his house,yeah, I know, but we're just
kind of like and we all do it.
I'm like, yeah, just buy anotherone, like piss off.

Zach (01:59:08):
I think that's my probably .
We'll maybe leave it with thisbecause, we're about to hit two
hours yeah.
Is.
I don't like the whole eat therich thing but at the same time,
like you know, easy it is, andmoney doesn't really matter that
much.
Once you get to that point,right, you know I'm saying I'll

(01:59:29):
say that you deserve your moneyand I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna
vilify you for it.
But don't talk, don't feed me abunch of bullshit about how
money doesn't matter, correct?
So if we make that deal, then Ithink we'll get along.

Josh (01:59:38):
I'm not one to attack ceos , I don't.
I don't get upset that peoplein my are upper than me, make
more money than me.
I.
I don't care, don't give a fuck, because if I made it I would
okay.
Great cool.

Zach (01:59:49):
Because it's not a zero-sum game.
Them being rich doesn't meanthat them being rich is not at
the cost of me being poor.
They're not the reason why I'mnot poor.
I'm just saying the reason whyI don't have as much money as
they do is because they havethat money.
They didn't steal anything fromme.

Josh (02:00:08):
Correct.
Yeah, I agree, yeah, it's, youknow, I don't know the power to
them.

Zach (02:00:12):
They just don't feed me a bunch of bullshit.

Josh (02:00:14):
Yeah, it was funny I heard that take when people were like
you know I didn't bash anyperson.
I don't want anybody to losetheir home, whether or have to
pay for it, regardless if theyhave the this mass amount of
money and I'm guilty of it,tlc's money, you know somebody's
test like burned up or whateverthey've got like four other
cars like fuck it was byinsurance, fuck you like
whatever.

(02:00:34):
But still, I don't want anybodylosing their shit.
But it's kind of like you saidyou're attacking the road, would
you say eating the rich likeeat the eat the rich thing.

Zach (02:00:40):
Yeah, well, it's, it's like, uh, you know, to maybe tie
this all back to the, thebeginning of the conversation,
where you were talking aboutcomparison is the thief of joy.

Josh (02:00:48):
Yeah, I think.

Zach (02:00:49):
Too many people take it too far, to where not only is
comparison the thief of joy, butcomparison is the precursor to
hatred.
Yeah.
Because not only does it stealtheir joy, right, but it
actually turns them into hatefulpeople.
And so, when you're comparingyourself to other people, all

(02:01:11):
the time it turns, I'm about tosay, like the Jedi thing, where
it's like fear leads to anger,anger leads to hate, hate leads
to suffering.

Josh (02:01:20):
It's like that, it's true.

Zach (02:01:23):
Is that you know you cannot if you compare yourselves
to these rich people.
They didn't do anything to youOutside people that scam people,
and that does happen from timeto time.
But in general, the reason whypeople are rich is not because
they took anything from you.
Stop comparing yourselves torich people and handle your own

(02:01:47):
shit, and so it not only youjust recognize whenever you're
comparing yourself to richpeople, you're not just stealing
your own joy, but you'reconverting that joy into into
anger and hatred for thatindividual when it's just a
person that's just a person thathad different circumstances.
They made the right moves, theygot a little lucky, they had
some help, yeah, and it just wasin the cards for them and it

(02:02:09):
was not in the cards for you,and that's okay fucking find
your thing.

Josh (02:02:14):
Exactly right, exactly right, I agree maybe you're, I'm
guessing.

Zach (02:02:17):
Sorry.
Sorry, but not everybody'sthing can't be a
multi-billionaire living on ayacht, sorry nope, there's not.

Josh (02:02:25):
He's got normal folks working for him to build the
yacht.

Zach (02:02:28):
Exactly that yacht has got some normal folks on it.

Josh (02:02:30):
Exactly right 100%.

Zach (02:02:32):
You got to have the normal folks yeah.

Josh (02:02:33):
I think that's a good yeah good to tie that back in and we
are normal folk.

Zach (02:02:38):
Yeah, I'm normal dude.
I don't know about normal toyou.
If we ever make it and we getto that point, I'm not going to
feed you a bunch of bullshitabout how I got there, I'm lazy.
You have to do it this way.

Josh (02:02:52):
I will tell you that I'm lazy.

Zach (02:02:53):
I'll tell you straight up that you're right, Because I'm
lazy.
And also, if we ever make it,I'll speak for myself.
If I ever make it quote, makeit is because I overcame my
procrastination somehow, Right,and also I sacked up and
actually took a risk and that'show we made it.

(02:03:13):
Otherwise I'm not going to feedyou some crap about energy, or
you've got to wake up at 4 amand you've got to do this
routine.

Josh (02:03:22):
If I ever snap and become an adult, like mentally,
there'll be signs.

Zach (02:03:28):
Yeah.

Josh (02:03:28):
And I'll let people know that I finally manned up Right.
Stop being a fucking19-year-old, yeah.

Zach (02:03:34):
Speaking of which, maybe we'll talk about this at a
future episode, because we kindof wavered off half this episode
.
It's not even about movies orwhatever, but it happens, sorry.
You had your midlife crisis at30.

Josh (02:03:46):
35 is coming.

Zach (02:03:47):
35 is coming, but really I've got to be here for the 40.
That's the one that's going tobe the doozy.

Josh (02:03:54):
Lord willing, I make it to 40.
Yeah, 35.
You already started, there yougo 35 is going to be rough, I
can tell you.
Yeah, we can discuss that.

Zach (02:04:03):
That's coming up soon, right.

Josh (02:04:04):
It is.
It's in May.

Zach (02:04:06):
Yeah, I get to work on my birthday.
That's nice.
Maybe we should do, if you thinkit's going to hit on 35.
It's going to.
Why?

Josh (02:04:13):
35?
I don't know.

Zach (02:04:15):
I didn't know 30 was going to hit.

Josh (02:04:16):
Okay, we don't want to get down that there's a lot of
things I can do.
Okay, sure, actually mybirthday is on a sunday this
year hey, so we can record on mybirthday if you want to okay,
we'll do that, all right.

Zach (02:04:30):
Well, uh, guess, let's wrap this up.
Yeah, I'll take us out.

Josh (02:04:32):
Uh, make sure you like follow, subscribe.
Uh, we're on everything.
We're on um google podcast.
We're on amazon podcast.
We're on we're not on pandora.
Uh, we're on iheart podcast oron spotify is our main go-to.
We're on apple podcast as well.
Um, let me give some quickshout outs real quick, that
people that help us out.
Uh, so Amber at the feral femmeCEO is where she can find her

(02:04:54):
at, but this is a podcast shedoes oh she's a massive, massive
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Um she's, she says I actually.
Um she's, she says, actually,our show is a big influence to
her for wanting to keeppodcasting, so we appreciate
hearing that.
Um felt bad that we took a yearhiatus yeah, well, her new show
is good, um, and she's kind ofuh, kind of taking.

(02:05:17):
She'd like no bullshit, givesyou like we're talking about
where I'm not going to feed youthe lies.
She's very blunt.
She can be an acquired taste ifyou're not into that loud like
truth bombs dropping on you, butshe has a whole business side
and all that it's it's it's verygood.
And then also the shave shack,derek's place, his new shop on
tiny town.
He also is a follower of oursand does some stuff for us to

(02:05:39):
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And then, yeah, yeah, pleasecomment.
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