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Zach (00:00):
Hey everybody, welcome to
Infinite Weekend Podcast episode
7575.
Zach here, josh over there.
Yo, how's it going?
What's up, man?
Have you ever heard of semenretention?
Josh (00:11):
It's funny, you say that I
have.
Zach (00:12):
Okay.
Josh (00:13):
Well, I remember the last
few years that's been a thing,
even on socials it came around.
But I'm going to look it up soeveryone's on the same page.
Well, supposedly All right, goahead.
Zach (00:23):
You, you withhold your
semen.
Yeah, you don't jerk off, youdon't have, you know, some
people are talking about comehere People.
Some, some people have theability to to have sex, but then
they just they never, theynever that's right, yeah, they
just, I just pleasure the otherperson, man, woman, whatever and
(00:44):
then, uh, and they just neverget there.
And then they call, I guess,cool off, and then they just
never bust and the idea is thatthat's your power.
It's like an aura thing.
Okay, it's an energy thing.
Josh (00:56):
Yeah.
Zach (00:56):
That if you, if you
withhold the nut, then you're
able to control your mind, bodyand all that kind of stuff.
And then it's like a, it's a Idon't know, it's like a new age
thing.
I've heard people this was a.
Josh (01:08):
This was an American
rapper.
This was an American pie too.
Zach (01:12):
Maybe.
Yeah, I thought he was.
Josh (01:13):
well, it's, it's had to
like Tantra.
Zach (01:15):
Yes, it's had it.
Josh (01:19):
Yeah, you can have sex for
hours by retaining.
Zach (01:22):
Well, the idea with this
the new thing that they're in
with semen retention is not sothat they have like a euphoric
experience the next time they donut.
Josh (01:31):
The whole idea is to not
ever come, because it's
something about it's like that'sall the rapper you're talking
about.
Zach (01:38):
It's the rapper Gates,
yeah.
Josh (01:40):
Kevin Gates.
Is it Kevin Gates?
Kevin Gates, he was talkingabout it.
Zach (01:45):
Odd dude and he's like,
yeah, I have sex with women.
They get theirs, but I neverget mine.
He's doing the semen retention.
And in his mind it's like madehim a better rapper professional
and all this kind of stuff I'mgoing to look here for you,
we'll get some facts.
All right, give me theWebster's edition.
Josh (02:02):
It refers to the practice
of intentionally avoiding
ejaculation, typically throughabstinence from sexual activity
or by stopping sexualstimulation before orgasm.
Semen retention has beenpracticed in various cultures
throughout history, with rootsin ancient religions, spiritual
traditions.
Proponents believe thatretaining semen can provide
(02:22):
various benefits, includingimproved health and vitality,
increased fertility which is nottrue enhanced sexual
performance, spiritual growth.
There's scientific evidence.
So yeah, abstinence for shortperiods within one to three days
.
They even tell you that beforeyou do a semen sample to like
withhold for a couple of days,but you don't want to exceed
(02:44):
because sperm will die.
Zach (02:45):
Yeah right.
Josh (02:46):
Yeah, if you're holding it
in your tank.
But some says that shortperiods, up to a few days, may
slightly increase volume andsperm concentration.
But longer periods, oppositeaffect people.
Yeah, the cereal goes bad inthe box.
Right, I mean yeah, exactlythere's.
No, there's no semen retentionfor till there's no semen
retention proof.
Until there's no evidence tomaintain that, has it come by?
Date it's a personal choice.
(03:06):
Right, I like to call thatmarriage.
Zach (03:10):
Yeah.
Josh (03:10):
I think a lot of married
men are practicing semen
retention unknowingly.
Zach (03:13):
Yeah, that's involuntarily
, involuntary semen retention.
Involuntarily celibate theincel.
Yeah, that's correct.
No, I'm thinking more a likemaybe I'm giving away too much
here of my own psyche butthere's nothing we have not said
on this podcast over the lastyear, but uh you know, sometimes
, uh, and maybe I'm alone here-I'm not alone, but maybe you're
(03:33):
not part of this.
Josh (03:34):
I might be.
Zach (03:35):
You know, sometimes, like
you, you just get into.
Maybe it's different whenyou're married, but you
sometimes you know you jerk offand you just you're getting into
a jerk off smorgasbord.
It's a fucking week-longfestival.
You're just having your way.
All you want to do is jerk off.
Oh no.
Sorry, I've never heard that,where it's just like a week or a
couple days where you're justlike I just want to jerk.
(03:55):
Maybe it's a depression thing.
Maybe young, yeah, mostly whenI was younger.
Obviously not now.
I think there's levels to thelibido or whatever but
definitely when I was younger,it'd just be like I couldn't,
couldn't stop.
I probably did, man, I can't.
And then I would go fuckingweeks, months, not to say months
, but like you go for a whilewhere you're just like no dry
(04:18):
spell.
You go through like a hotstreak.
Yeah, Hot streak.
Yeah, that's where you're like.
Josh (04:23):
Yeah, like it's but it's
that's hormones, I'm like yeah
you know I'm I was much easiertime to get to myself than me
Get someone else.
Zach (04:31):
Well, so anyway, when they
kept Kevin Gates, I saw that
video where he was talking abouthe's doing their semen
retention thing.
Feathers in his hair, butthere's something to be said
about control like controllingyour desires in that way.
Josh (04:48):
Don't let your desires
control you.
You know I'm saying yeah.
Zach (04:50):
I mean I think having a
clean mind I think would be more
like but if it's like somethings, like you know, when
you're hungry you need to eatright yeah, if you're horny you
want to jerk off?
Josh (04:59):
yeah, but but that's not
necessary no, treat it.
You kind of treat it like as ifI'm hungry, I would like to get
that cheeseburger.
It's like, man, I'm just goingto settle over there.
So if you're like, oh man, I'mreally in the mood like, eh,
it'll be all right.
Zach (05:10):
Right, there's something
about you know this is obvious,
everyone knows this that if youindulge every desire and whim,
then you're going to have anunsuccessful life.
Josh (05:23):
Too much of a good thing
can be bad.
Zach (05:24):
Sometimes, like you said,
I'm craving a cheeseburger.
I don't need to eatcheeseburgers every day, right,
even though I love cheeseburgersand I would eat them every day.
Josh (05:34):
I don't want to compare
masturbating to eating
cheeseburgers.
Zach (05:38):
The concept of depriving
yourself or a small sacrifice
for betterment.
I think that also does apply tosenior attention.
Josh (05:47):
I'm not a big masturbator
in my older years.
That's not really my thinganymore.
Zach (05:52):
I mean, I guess it's
routine, I guess Mine's few and
far months Anyway that'ssomething I thought about.
I might give it a shot, try it.
Josh (06:05):
You know what I'm saying
then report back to us for a men
.
Guys listen like, hey, maybe,who knows, I don't know yeah.
Zach (06:11):
I don't, because I, even
when you're in that mode, when
you're on that like hot streak,yeah, just mentally, like that's
kind of where your mind is kindof at it's just constantly in
this state of I'm not likearousal, but like you're just I
don't know like a dog sniffingaround.
You know what I'm saying, likethat's all you do, you are, you
might be like what's reallyhappening here you?
(06:32):
know what I'm saying, and sothat's kind of like taking over
your focus for the most partwhen you're on that hot streak.
Yeah, really it's just a fix.
Josh (06:42):
Yeah, you get a feeling
it's like, ah, and then, but
it's so, it's so quick anyways,yeah, and you see, when you're
done, you're like yeah, like youwalk around, got any of them
pornographies.
Zach (06:58):
Yeah, right, yeah, you're
exactly right, yeah, and so you
cause I get the desire and thehit.
Josh (07:03):
Retent, retent.
I'm going to retent, retent.
I'm going to seem and retentOkay.
Zach (07:08):
And then I'll report back.
Josh (07:09):
Keep us posted.
Keep us posted.
I would do a month.
Yeah, I think that's a reallygood Four to six weeks.
Zach (07:14):
Well, this is like the
kind of the whole November thing
which I've never been able tosucceed at.
Josh (07:27):
Oh of like as like a
challenge kind of thing, more of
a as a mental exercise.
Yeah, and there's two schools,I thought I've heard, where,
like some say, masturbation is,is healthy and it reduces
prostate cancer, and I thinkthere is some findings there
somewhere I've never delved intothem and then there's some that
say don't like it's.
There's always going to be yournaysayers and your people say
do it like you've always beendoing, like yeah, I don't know I
think it's what makes you.
Zach (07:46):
I think it's somewhere in
the middle.
It's like yeah, if you, if youlike, never bust a nut for like
years on end, that's probably aproblem, uh.
And then if you're doing itlike twice a day, every day,
like okay, that's a problemthere is.
Josh (07:56):
I mean obviously like
there's a lot of endorphins and
things that are released there's.
I mean it can also solve, itcan also fix headaches.
I mean there's a lot ofbenefits to it as well during
that time.
But I don't know if there's.
I've heard where even somedoctors have been like having so
many releases a week orwhatever can reduce the risk of
(08:18):
this, this, this, this and this.
I'm like who?
Zach (08:20):
the fuck knows who knows.
Josh (08:22):
Every day, there's always
something new that's going to
kill you, or there's alwayssomething new that you should be
doing to extend your life, likeevery day there's something new
that someone has come up withfor you to do yeah or don't do?
yeah, and it's.
It's so overwhelming that I'mlike I've really limited myself
on on socials and I even resetmy algorithm.
(08:44):
You can do that now.
You can reset your algorithm onInstagram, and so I only listen
to like people that I give ashit about and other than like
if it's something that says like, as soon as it's like wake the
fuck up, and I'm like Nope,uninterested, not interested.
These high performance people.
(09:09):
I'm not interested in anythingthat you do and all those people
that that they fucking come outwith the water bottle, that big
fucking dude and he wipes abanana on his face get fucked
like I'm.
I'm like.
I think would be a more popularvideo would be show what a
actual middle class person does.
And they get like.
I'll show you I can record mymornings and be like.
Zach (09:22):
That makes a lot more
fucking sense yeah, but I think,
yeah, you probably could if youmade that video, though, like
it's yeah, I'm not super hotripped up black guy well it
wouldn't, it probably wouldn't,it wouldn't catch, just because
everyone's like yeah, that'sliterally me every morning right
, but let's be real.
Josh (09:38):
Yeah, let's see what's,
but who knows mine might be?
You might not do breathing theexercise in the mornings with
your push-ups before you haveyour first cup of coffee, you
would have like like it'd besomething small routine small
routine things, but you know nota whole fucking, not a whole
crazy thing.
Zach (09:52):
But if you watch that
video.
Josh (09:54):
Did we discuss this last?
Zach (09:54):
episode we might have.
I don't want to go with himspecifically, but that's right,
I don't want to be a dead horse,but like that's I.
Josh (09:59):
I see shit like that and I
think like pick and choose,
like I'm a lot more picky now.
Zach (10:04):
I've unfollowed a lot of
people like, and I'm starting
now to don't google anythinganymore, like don't well, I
think a lot, a lot of those uh,you know the, the health
influencers and these you knowdoctors that you know talk about
, you know hacking your healthand all this kind of stuff,
here's what everybody's, I think, wants to in deep down, really
(10:25):
just wants to hear from a doctoror somebody that's that's
cracked the code.
They just want to hear like ifthey'll do this, they'll never
age and they'll never die, likethat's, that's well, you're
gonna.
Josh (10:34):
Everybody's like literally
, like kind of in the back of
their mind what they're, whatthey're wanting out of this yeah
, that's our problem.
Zach (10:41):
You're gonna die but it's
people that have not come to
grips with it.
That dude, you're born terminal, that dude that's a
multimillionaire and he's likedoing blood transfusions with
12-year-olds.
Fuck him.
He looks weird.
First of all, he looks like avampire.
He looks plastic.
Josh (10:52):
He takes 52 vitamins a day
, which I'm a big vitamin guy
myself.
Zach (10:55):
Sure.
Josh (10:55):
Because our foods are very
stripped.
To consume my life, you onlyget one shot at this, yeah and
you're, so I just yes.
And what's crazy to me is ifyou look back 40, 50 years ago,
where people didn't have theaccess they have now to know
everything or think they knoweverything, and like I mean,
(11:17):
there's grandparents and people.
I know that these people arelike in their 90s and 100s and
they used to smoke cigarettesand drink black coffee five or
six times a day and eat likeshit and just work and they
didn't look at any of it andguess what?
They lived a long time.
Yeah.
We have now worried ourself todeath on living longer, and that
worry and stress is killing usoff faster.
Yeah, yeah.
Zach (11:39):
Well, also, we're starting
doing the normal life things
that our parents andgrandparents did.
We're delaying a lot of thatuntil later in life.
So what's the point of livinglonger if you're delaying a lot
of the things that you'resupposed to be doing?
I can speak for myself.
Basically, my entire 20s was agiant fucking waste of time.
(11:59):
Yeah sure, I'm not going totake it that far.
I had a good time.
I have made a lot of friends youknow, made connections and, and
you know, did a different jobsand all this kind of stuff.
But but you could take that,that 10-year chunk right from
from high school till when Ifinally actually started, you
know, making a quote, career orwhatever was just a hodgepodge
(12:24):
of just random things.
You know what I mean, justaimless shots in the dark.
Well, they tell you it's funny,but that's not the way.
You like that and that to me.
I think that that is more thenorm, at least for my generation
.
I think I've been maybe Gen Z.
Same way, I don't know what'sup, where you're, you're, you
know people talk about like youknow, your twenties are for
figuring it out.
Josh (12:44):
They say you actually
don't start until your thirties.
But it's all subjective, Ithink the more.
Zach (12:50):
what's more and more
happening is people are, you
know, using their twenties tofigure it out.
Well, now it's like they'restill figuring it out in their
thirties.
Well, because the idea I canrelate to that, yeah.
Josh (13:01):
The idea of, of of
marriage is different than it
used to be.
Zach (13:04):
Yeah.
Josh (13:04):
People don't want to feel
locked down.
Yeah, part of it is that, andthe idea of a woman being a a
wife is no longer popular.
Like you know, they're tellingyou to have kids later.
Like take your time to do thethings you want to do, like
which, that's your choice.
Like I'm not against anybodynot wanting to have kids, it's
your choice.
Yeah, do what makes whateverbrings you any source of
(13:26):
happiness.
True, but the family dynamichas changed a lot too.
Like there's it's changed.
Zach (13:34):
Like people aren't.
It's not good for a society ora civilization when you have a
bunch of 20s and 30-year-oldsstill figuring it out.
Josh (13:41):
You're right and I don't
know, and I've never talked to a
lot of Gen Zers or peoplesaying they're figuring it out,
but I don't know if there's afear of growing up, or they had.
I've also heard, like when Ihad my midlife crisis or
whatever you want to call it,when I turned 30, it's like I
read in research that if you,when you're closing an era, when
you're closing your 20s, ifyou're closing your thirties,
(14:02):
forties, wherever you have youryour session or wherever you
feel that that overwhelming,whatever it was, because some of
them said that you had so muchfun in that era that,
inadvertently, you're afraid ofof it coming to a close, even
though nothing's going to happen.
You're not losing friends.
You're not losing.
It's just another step.
Zach (14:19):
You know what I think it
is.
I think it's a option.
Paralysis or you know, you'vementioned this before is
comparison is the thief of joy,and it really is.
I think that's actually what'sactually going on.
Underneath all these movementsor trends of people going well
(14:41):
into their 30s still figuringout is because they never really
made a choice, because there'sso many fucking options.
We're all too connected, we'reall too online it's too much
access.
Josh (14:50):
There's too much access.
We don't.
Zach (14:52):
We're all comparing each
other off of each.
You know everything that we do,that's correct with everybody.
So we're like well, why would Iquote, settle?
Whenever you go on the internetand you see, like all these
other people and all these othercouples, you're're like I want
what they have.
Instead, you need to focus onwhat you need to do.
Josh (15:09):
Everybody's trying to
attain something else that
somebody else has, and a lot ofit's not tangible and it's not
for you.
And what else, too, is.
We all need to come to arealization, and I struggle with
this a lot too.
You're only going to see thegood stuff online.
That's also the problem.
(15:30):
You don't know the couple.
You see that his wife'scheating, she's cheating his
kids are terrible.
He actually hates his fuckinglife, or she does, and that
might be, sadly, their only.
Their only source of their joyand their day, whatever you want
to call it, is that is.
And then I don't know whatthey're feeling on the other end
.
Yeah, their own stresses of Igotta make sure this gets enough
follows, this gets enough likes.
Why didn't this video do?
Well?
Zach (15:46):
it's all horseshit you
know, what I noticed?
Um, now, I think dudes aregenerally more like this.
Women tend to post more on onsocial media, but I had this
realization the other day when Iwas thinking about this, was
that, uh, you know, I, I observeeverybody else's and I have the
same thing can happen to me.
It's like I'll, I'll when youtalked about where you like had
to do a, a social media purge,to where, um, you know, your
(16:10):
comparison is the joy.
You're looking at all thesecouples and everything.
So you should have to detoxevery once in a while, so I mean
that gets me to sometimes I'mlooking slaving away like it's.
So you know that that happensto me too, but I had this
(16:32):
thought.
I was like what if the theopposite's not true?
I never post.
I never fucking post on anysocial medias ever, like it's
just not a thing that I do,right, so I was like probably
better for it.
Probably.
Well, I guess.
I guess I mean, but like nobody, nobody in my past or in my
(16:52):
present could look at anythingon my social and be like oh, I
wonder what he's been up tolately and could see what my
life is the good but do they butit?
Doesn't matter yeah.
So like if I, if I have the yousee what I'm saying, Like I
don't have this desire to poston there.
So people outside the outsideworld from a social media
perspective has no idea whatI've been doing, how I've been,
(17:15):
whether I'm married or not andwhat my job is like in nothing
and, if you, there's no snapshotof my life.
Josh (17:20):
If you got rid of your
socials, no one's going to check
.
No one's going to know thepeople that matter.
We'll check on you, yes, butlike it's like when I did that,
you know what I've been up to mycore friends and family knows
what people that matter peoplethat matter.
Zach (17:37):
That's what I'm saying, so
like, and I don't feel like I'm
losing anything or I'm missingout on by not posting.
Josh (17:39):
You're not.
We're actually not gaining forpeople like you and me.
Now I know we have socials forthe pod because there is there
is good in social there is goodthere's connection, there's well
, if you're trying to marketyourself, sure?
and it's a great marketing tool.
It's free.
I understand the businessaspect, but for everyday users
like me, you or whoever you,really don't need it.
Like you can go without it.
(18:00):
Yeah, I mean, I kind of wishthat we would do like you can't,
because it's just like wheneverthey threaten to get rid of
tiktok, everybody freaked out.
If we could just go like eightmonths or a year without any of
it, I guarantee you statisticswould show an increase in in a
lot of things that are downright now, just because we're
just so like we're terrible atbeing bored.
I'm guilty of it.
(18:20):
We're terrible at being bored.
We always our phones.
You go to restaurants now yousee families all on their phones
.
We're so like, and even if youdon't have your phone, if it's
not on you, you inadvertentlyreach for it.
Or if someone else's phonevibrates so you trigger it
because you're like oh, that'swhat I do, and we all do it, and
it sucks, created a monsterlike it is.
(18:41):
It's the way of the world.
I understand that and it's.
I know that gen z meg hatesmillennials because we
millennials are always trying tolive back in the 90s and we
always refer like the 90s werethe best time ever.
Well, that's because they werefor one.
Yeah, like from 1990 to like2005.
Zach (18:58):
Like it was awesome um,
anyway, I had that, I had that
thought.
Um, whereas you know, I thinkthere's two different types of
social media users, people thathave this feel, this need to
post, and then the lurkers.
I'm the lurker, yeah right, Ilike to just absorb.
Josh (19:14):
I only post on our on our
podcast pretty much.
Zach (19:16):
Yeah, I love the podcast
pages for posting whatever we'll
share stuff in the group, chatsand stuff like that.
Yeah, but that's just part oflike we would do the same thing
if we were sitting in the sameroom.
Josh (19:26):
We would and there's, like
I said there's, there's good
and bad, I don't.
I don't think it's anecessarily an evil place.
I just think that we we turn toit too quickly for everything.
Zach (19:45):
I think you know and I had
that you know kind of
revelation about how my use islike no one knows in my past
what I've been up to because Idon't post.
Josh (19:49):
And there's also when you
disconnect to as well.
You kind of get you'll.
You'll be a bit of a sad thingtoo that you'll come back to
social and you're like nobodyeven checked to see if I was all
right.
Zach (19:57):
I don't even go on
Facebook.
For me is for marketplace andbirthdays.
Marketplace.
Yeah, market marketplace.
I'll do like in the birthdays,cause you know I'm not a big
birthday guy.
Josh (20:07):
Well, I don't care about
it, no, and I but you know, if
it's, if it's somebody that Igenuinely like, you know I want
to.
You know it's cause I I'vealways had this socials.
You'll see, like when someone'sbirthday roses up, like you'll
see the, these popular people,all their friends, make these
posts like happy birthday, thisrad guy.
And they'll think like there'stons of pictures, they'll share
(20:28):
memories of them on their happybirthday and it's like that'd be
pretty cool to have that andthen like people's birthday and
they're just like not a fuckingthing so, which is shitty and
that's stupid.
It's stupid.
So it's I, you know, but youinadvertently want, you want to
sometimes deep down.
You want to be like the guyeverybody likes.
You want to be the guy thateverybody knows.
You want to be the cool guy toeverybody, like there's.
(20:49):
I think all men feel that wayat one point or another.
Zach (20:53):
Yeah, sure, I'm not saying
all the time, I'm just there's
just and it's.
Josh (20:57):
It's going to vary.
Zach (20:58):
Specifically about the
Facebook birthdays thing.
Let me tell you the last coupletimes that I've had birthdays
and generally that's the onlytime I ever get any kind- of
notifications because I don'tpost.
Yeah, I post on your facebookon your birthday, generally,
usually that's the only time Iget any kind of notification on
facebook.
Is my birthday?
Yeah, because I'm just not onit yeah, well, yeah so, so that
(21:19):
so two years ago birthday gotthat?
I think too.
I maybe it was two, three yearsago, but uh, started getting in
a day with a bunch of them andI think later on and I was like,
you know, I just did like a.
Every time someone would sendone I'd like it, okay, you know.
So they just acknowledging thatthey hit me every birthday, yeah
and then I think, like, at theend of the day, I did like
(21:39):
thanks for all the birthdaywishes post and that was it
right.
That was just being nice.
This past time fucking did noneof that.
Who gives a shit right?
I did none of that.
I have some more people posted,or whatever.
Happy birthday.
The only time that I respondedis someone actually who knows me
well enough to be able to textor call me.
That's who I would engage with.
(22:00):
You know I'm saying like.
So I just completely ignoredthis past time around the
facebook I think maybe I liked afew of them, but at some point
I was like I haven't seen you ortalked to you in 10 years yeah
I don't care.
Yeah, like if I wasn't even onthis app, how would you wish me
happy birthday?
It's like this weird compulsionthat we have.
Maybe I'm being, maybe kind ofan asshole.
(22:22):
Renting it's okay, but I justfind it just kind of.
I don't like birthdays in thebeginning, like first place.
At our age, at an adult age,like when you're a kid.
Okay, fine, so I'm just like eh, whatever, yeah, you know, I
just don't, it just seems sillyto me, but anyway, and then also
you've got to go through thisit's like a ritual that we do,
(22:43):
that no one really wants to doto where you've got to see
someone's birthday oh, happybirthday.
You don't talk to them aboutanything else.
You have no idea what they'regoing on in their life.
But you feel this compulsion towell.
it's their birthday, happybirthday it's a weird ritual
that we do, that I just like.
Can we just stop doing this.
Josh (23:05):
It is, but I think what
and I might be wrong here, uh,
and you might agree, disagree Ithink what it is is that deep
down, we all want to be justnice people like.
I think we invert.
We want to be nice like, evenif we know, like because I'll
tell you how birthday that Ihaven't talked to in person in
years, I couldn't tell you theirhusband kid's name, I couldn't
tell you.
But sometimes I'll just seeit'll pop up and I'm like I kind
of like them, or we used to beacquaintance or we used to spend
(23:25):
time, yeah, but I'll just belike, just quick and just like.
I don't care if theyacknowledge it, right, I just do
it because it's, I don't know,I I do it, I'm guilty of doing
it.
Now, if someone pulls up that Idon't like you, I'm not gonna
like the shady that sounds like.
I don't give a fuck about yourbirthday like yeah, but that and
that happened.
That's normal.
So I think what it is is thatwe just I kind of I wish
(23:45):
everybody would be truthfulabout the way they felt about
each other, and then sometimes Idon't, because I feel like we
would all be mean to each otherall the time I'm not even saying
like I don't know.
Just I feel like we, if we losesome of the ritual stuff, we
would all just hate each otherwell I don't know but the same
people, I guess I hear.
Zach (24:02):
I hear what you're saying,
but I guess that's my point is
that it's just, it's such a youdon't talk to that like if you
came across that person in thegrocery store and they're like,
oh, it's my birthday today.
Like, oh, happy birthday.
Fine, that that's being nice,yeah, but but you don't even
necessarily know if, wheneveryou're sending the something
over social media like that,happy birthday that they even
(24:23):
saw it, yeah, you don't, youdon't know, no, and so why?
So I feel like a lot of that isit's performative, it's like
this ritual thing yeah, we sendhappy birthday to let everybody
know that we wish them a happybirthday.
Yeah, did you.
Are you?
Do you really give a flyingfuck?
Josh (24:36):
no, yeah, if I text you, I
really care if you take, but
like for you on purpose.
I'll do it on your facebook andtext you yeah, correct, so now.
Zach (24:43):
So now, as I say, this and
I'm putting this out to the
world.
The next time it's my birthday,I'm going to get inundated with
fucking.
Facebook notifications beinglike happy birthday asshole.
Josh (24:52):
I do like it, because if I
forget someone's birthday or
I'm close to it, it does.
Let me know oh cool, I wasclose.
So yeah, it's.
I mean, social has its place,man.
Social has its place, man itdoes, in our world.
Now.
Zach (25:02):
I archived my Facebook a
while ago and I've done nothing
since, so it's probably stillthe same.
If I did the archive again, itwouldn't update anything In
preparation to delete it.
Yeah, I mean Facebook.
The only reason it's beenhanging around is because of
events.
Josh (25:20):
People like to schedule
events on there.
The only reason I even had aFacebook in the beginning in
high school was because we usedto use it to creep on chicks in
the summertime Because girlsdidn't dress as provocative as
they do now, from what I've beenhearing and seeing.
We used to look for, likesummer vacation pictures of
their family because we mightcatch them in a swimsuit.
So we're like, oh shit, sheposted.
And we like all groupedtogether on one person's
(25:40):
Facebook and be like, oh that'spretty good.
Zach (25:43):
That's what we use it for,
and it was that's, that's
that's kind of what it was, andthen that's it Now on Instagram.
What do you have to do?
It's a lot easier to scrollbecause it's just pictures, so
you can just see if there's.
But you can look at like uh, uh, okay, this post was in, and
then I get into July, yeah, orJune, july, and then boom,
here's the summer stuff, yeah,but what's great is with that?
Josh (26:05):
guy that's so creepy.
My favorite it is my favoritething I ever saw was when a girl
was like why'd you like apicture from so long ago?
Are you creeping?
He's like no, you just haven'tlooked that good in a while.
That's funny.
Zach (26:19):
And I was like I think I'm
going to do that next time.
Somebody had to be somebody.
I know if it's just some randomlike you gotta be careful but
it needs to be somebody that Iknow I'll.
I'll find them on Instagram andI'll start going through the
pictures.
I'll like something fromfucking five years ago.
Josh (26:32):
I'll do it.
I'll do it.
Zach (26:35):
I'll do it.
I'll report back and see ifanything came up.
I'm like yeah, you were reallyhot then.
Josh (26:42):
I wanted you to remember
as well and me that you were
really hot then.
Zach (26:45):
Actually, I need to stop
being a bitch.
I just need a friend requestthat hot barista at I talked
about a few episodes ago.
Josh (26:52):
Oh, I remember the hot
barista.
Yeah, she was cute, yeah, yeah.
Zach (26:55):
And then I can like one of
her posts from five years ago,
and then but she still looksgood.
The day that I like, but.
But she was like 15.
Then, wait, how awkward.
You've got to be careful, I'vegot to be careful, I've got to
look at the dates Right?
Yeah, I've got to do a littlemath and see like oh this is a
birthday post.
Okay, so now she's got to be,you know.
Josh (27:11):
Yeah, be careful.
Zach (27:13):
No, what I'll do is I'll
invite her, like if this
happened to you female listeners, but like if I think this would
be kind of funny.
I also love awkward, so I thinkawkward would be fun.
(27:35):
It is fun but what if I didthis?
What if I invited uh, I friendrequested her like that morning,
yeah right, I got you and thenrolled up in the window and got
coffee and made sure she got didyou see it.
Right, well, no, don't, don'taddress any of it.
Don't don't address it at all,just be like friend request,
right, make sure she likeaccepted and got and see at
(27:56):
least saw it and accepted it ordenied it.
No, I guess she could justleave it on read and you would
never know, that's true.
But give it enough time towhere you know she saw the
request, right, yeah, and thenroll up into the window, don't
address it, order a coffee, dothe whole thing, banter,
whatever, and then leave.
Yeah, and then like, if sheaccepts a friend request, like a
(28:18):
photo from fucking four yearsago, like as soon as you leave,
like would that be weird?
Yeah, because then she'd be like.
He'd be like now I have access,he's like man, he's been
waiting on this right and thenthe next day see if she like
which would girls?
Would you ever say anythinglike if I was just a random guy
that was like coming throughyour window or as a patron,
someone or regular you saw allthe time, invited you on
facebook or in socials whatever,and then randomly started like
(28:42):
a bunch of your old folks, wouldyou ever say?
Josh (28:44):
anything?
No, because wouldn't I mean ifOn this side, if a young woman
or whoever accepted my friendand then were liking my old
stuff, I'm like, okay, well,they're touring my profile, that
wouldn't bother me, it wouldn'tbother me either.
Because that's what we do,because if it's private, I have
no access.
Everyone knows everyone's doingthat.
(29:06):
If, if you accept it, now I cansee what you were hiding, I'm
gonna go look.
Yes, you've given me permissionright to be in here now.
That's the silly thing aboutliking a post from years ago and
people were like oh my god, noyou can't like that, like I'm
looking shit, everyone's looking, everyone's doing the same
thing.
We all look, dude, I've done it, I'm guilty.
Zach (29:23):
I'm gonna I it.
I'm going to make this a.
I'm going to make this.
I'm going to break this, thiscycle that we're in.
I'm going to just start justrandomly liking some years old
posts of people when they lookgood.
When they look good Right, notnow when they look good.
Josh (29:38):
It's like Tom Segura said
in a podcast recently.
He was talking about peoplelike being big.
Recently was talking aboutpeople like being big, like they
were doing.
They're talking about ozempic.
It was with him and a guy namedchris chris wilkinson from or
williamson from uh, he's apodcast health guy too, yeah the
british good looking dude buffguy um modern, something.
I follow his podcast too.
Zach (29:58):
I can't remember the name
of it ways to wellness dude yeah
, yeah, he's got a ton offollowers great, he has
everybody on um, but anyways, hejust had tom segura on.
Josh (30:05):
A couple weeks ago they
were talking about ozempic and
all these medications that theyit showed that even gen z
supposedly eating your brainyeah, gen z apparently has that
that group has by, like theysaid, 30 to 40.
60 percent of them were like,yeah, I'll just use ozempic or
one of those, like if I get bigit's not a problem.
They're like whoa, whoa, whoa,whoa, and Tom Zagor tried some
(30:25):
of that stuff before too, but hewas talking about how people
are so like brainwashed, whereit's like.
He's like they posted like youtake Adele right, adele was a
big lady, the singer, you knowwhat I'm talking about.
Adele looks awesome, she's abeautiful lady.
He said they post a picture ofafter, when she looks great, and
then before, where she was big,and they're all like I think
(30:47):
she was beautiful both ways andhe was like no, she wasn't.
She said she wasn't ugly, butshe looks better thin.
Yeah, can we stop being dumb?
We stop.
Can we stop being dumb people,if everyone is chasing the thin
game, no one's chasing.
Let's be all fat like Like thiswhole.
I don't know what this wholething is like.
Be comfortable Like no, stopthat, shush.
Zach (31:10):
Yes.
Josh (31:10):
Everyone knows that
thinner and smaller is looks
better.
It's a fact.
It goes for us men too.
That's the way it works, and Idon't know why we're all like if
she's beautiful, If she'sbeautiful both ways.
Zach (31:21):
Yes, bull shit, and your
body is designed to do that.
If you did the things that werehealthy for your body to to be
healthy, you would not be fat,like that's just that simple.
Josh (31:32):
So it drives me fucking
nuts and also I've probably said
this before, but I'm gonna sayit again Cause it pisses me off.
If you like have been giantyour whole life and then all of
a sudden you lose the way andlike you're not a fucking hero.
Sorry, everybody likes to clingto these people that like
finally did they're like, you'remy inspiration, like how about
the people that have beenmaintaining this for like 25, 30
years?
Zach (31:51):
yeah, hats off to you.
Like everybody's just lookingfor validation, which?
Is not which is not a sentimentthat I necessarily.
I think everybody to somedegree is looking for some
validation there's's there'slevels of it.
People that are looking forvalidation all the time about
everything from everybody are afucking problem, but everybody's
looking for validation fromsomething right.
(32:14):
Either you're looking forvalidation from like your
parents or your spouse your kidwhatever kids your friends
whatever.
Josh (32:20):
It's good.
Zach (32:20):
I think if you keep that,
if you keep the where you seek
validation very, it feels good.
I think if you keep that, ifyou keep the where you seek
validation very small, you'rebetter off for it.
But if it's like wide net andyou got to get validation from
everybody, I think that's thebiggest problem, I think, with
the whole trans fuckingconversation.
If you want to cut your cockoff and call yourself Susan, by
all means fucking do it.
I don't give a shit, Just benice, Leave me the fuck alone
about it.
You don't need validation fromme.
(32:41):
You don't need validation fromme.
But I think that's the biggestproblem with that community.
Josh (32:44):
We prefer you to be hot.
If you're going to do it, yeahright.
Zach (32:46):
Exactly Because hot makes
everything better.
We all know this.
This is laws of the universe.
We're not saying anythingrevolutionary.
Josh (32:55):
Yeah, this is hotter is
better.
You know what I mean.
Zach (32:58):
You look better whenever
you're thinner and hot.
Doesn't matter, I don't carewhat you're doing.
If you're hot, you kind of getaway.
Josh (33:04):
If you're going to be a
dude turned into you, gotta make
you gotta be hot, it doesn'tmatter.
Zach (33:07):
Sorry, those.
These are the rules.
I don't make the rules, I'mjust stating the.
This is the laws of theuniverse and I'm just letting
you know.
Be hot.
Well, saturday for the whateverthe day.
We hadn't done that in a, in afew episodes, so we thought we'd
see the retention be hot, yeah,yeah.
(33:30):
But let's get back to business.
Yeah, the thing that we kind ofhave been doing past few
episodes is you know what wewatched this week, what we liked
, what we didn't like?
Yeah, I'm going to start us off.
Yeah, I'll do it.
Josh (33:41):
I yeah, I'll do it.
I started, which.
I guess it doesn't matter ifone of us haven't seen it or the
other, because we would justuse it as a recommendation.
I did the Bondsman with KevinBacon, which is on Amazon Prime
for anybody who's looking to doit.
It's called the Bondsman Oneseason, eight episodes, 82%.
On Rotten Tomatoes, which Iknow you're not a big tomato guy
(34:02):
, I use it for the audiencescore.
I like it a lot.
Zach (34:08):
I do percent on rotten
tomatoes, which I know you're
not a big tomato guy, I use itfor the audience score.
Josh (34:10):
I like it a lot.
I use it as I do use it as areference point, but not as like
correct.
I don't die on it.
Yeah, exactly right.
7.1 on imdb prime video go to7.1, um, but yeah.
So I started that because afriend at work recommended it.
Uh, he was spot on.
I finished the show in a day.
Yeah, it's it's.
It's short and sweet.
And I will say, if you're akevin bacon fan, I finished the
show in a day.
Yeah, it's, it's.
It's short and sweet.
And I will say, if you're aKevin Bacon fan, you'll like the
show.
The premise is not hard tofollow at all and I can give you
(34:31):
like a quick synopsis Bountyhunter dies, resurrected.
Now, instead of hunting parolejumpies, whatever.
He now hunts demons for thedevil.
Zach (34:44):
Is it basically like a
kind of a re?
It's basically the same.
It's a basic premise but maybeslightly different of RIPD that
movie, but better.
Josh (34:55):
Yeah, a lot better.
A lot better, not as whimsicalRest in peace.
It's a little more gory and kindof Tar tarantino, kind of crazy
like, as far as like likesplatter and great and kevin
there's.
The casting is great.
There's not one character thatI hated like kevin.
(35:15):
Bacon and the woman who playshis mom are tremendous on screen
together it's fun.
It's short, it's not a.
The story's not muddy, it's notlike crazy lore, but each
episode keeps you going and theytrickle in some lore and then
the way it's neat is the seasonends kind of on a cliffhanger
where they almost force like weneed a season two.
(35:36):
So I recommend definitelychecking out.
That's what I really liked.
As far as things I didn't likethat I watched.
Um shit, I've watched a lottrying to think what I, what I
tried to get into and I couldn't.
Oh uh.
So I'm not a big last of us,the last of us guy.
(35:57):
I never finished season one.
I tried to pick it back up.
I can't.
I just can't get into it and Iknow they had a strong opener
for season two Spoiler.
That's going to be my thing.
I didn't like this week.
There's nothing there for me.
The video game looks incredible.
I've never played it, but I'venever heard the first negative
(36:17):
thing about the video game.
Zach (36:18):
Both of them are great.
Josh (36:22):
Part two is not as good as
one.
I've seen the clips.
I like the kills, all thatstuff.
I was going to restart it again, so that's probably something
I'd say that I didn't enjoy.
Zach (36:31):
They coincided the season
two drop with a remastered part.
They already remastered partone of the video game and I did
play that again.
It's great.
They did recently remaster itbecause it came to PC.
Okay.
Josh (36:45):
Which hadn't been part two
.
Okay, and then also, I neverfinished Reacher season three.
I got to be honest.
I like Alan Richardson a lot.
I share a lot of his posts.
I would love to meet the guyand have coffee with him.
But I don't know, man, I hadone episode left.
I just kind of wasn't as goodas season two.
It kind of fizzled out a littlebit for me and I like Alan
(37:07):
Richardson a lot.
I really do.
I have a lot of respect for theguy.
I don't know I need to go backand finish it, just to finish it
, but I'm a little like Well, Ithink there's something like
that the premise of that show.
Zach (37:20):
There's only so many times
you can go back to the well,
and I know the books aresupposed to be solid.
Josh (37:24):
I've never read them, but
I've heard good things too, and
I don't know.
That's where I'm at right now.
I'll let you.
I'll let you get to your thingwell, what was the what was?
Zach (37:31):
that was the thing you,
what was the thing you liked?
Josh (37:33):
oh, uh the bondsman the
bondsman that's what.
That's what comes to mind first.
I'm not going to go into allthe movies I watched these past
couple weeks that we have beenon, but that's what's new and I
think that would for our baselistener.
I think that would be a moreattractive show for everybody to
get involved in.
Okay.
Zach (37:49):
I'd say mine.
This that I watched this pastweek was the thing I didn't like
, which I still like, but as afan of the game, I didn't like
the Last of Us Season 2 premiere.
Okay, the episode itself.
I've heard mixed and it's noteven really that.
They're actually prettysticking pretty close to the
(38:12):
game.
Still, there's some departures.
Obviously they did the samething.
There were some departures inthe first one and you expect
that this day and age they dothat all the time with adapting
from books.
So they're adapting from avideo game.
I would expect it, um, but um,like that whole episode they did
with um with bill was totallywas not in the game yeah, we
(38:33):
just I remember that, yeah, thatwas in season one that was not
in the game at all.
So they, you know they're takingtheir liberties, it's fine.
Uh, as long as it makes sensewithin the broader context of
the story that was in in thegames, then I'm fine with it,
even if they so far I haven'tmade any major departures like
huge major departures.
That alters the storyline andthe plot.
I don't know, it's just the waythat the characters are
(38:57):
interacting with each other.
First of all, I'm just going tothrow this out here I kind of I
said the same thing when theydid season one, but, uh, I kinda
I said the same thing, um, whenthey did season one, but Bella
Ramsey is miscast.
Josh (39:09):
Yeah, I have to agree, I'm
not a big fan of completely
miscast.
Zach (39:13):
It was fine Whenever she
was portraying.
You know someone who was, Ithink, uh, 13, 14, 14 in the at
the time, 13 or 14 years old.
In part one, okay, in seasonone, like okay, yeah, she looks
like a little, she looks likeshe's 13, 14.
She looks like a kid.
Okay, I can roll with it.
Now, in part two, it's been atime jump five years, she's 19
(39:34):
years old and she just doesn'tit just she can't play an adult.
I don't think she just keepsplaying this like addis listen,
kind of whiny little.
Josh (39:44):
The news came for that she
was, that she was autistic.
Now, that's a big thing, Idon't know.
Whatever thing has come forwardas well.
Zach (39:50):
And now that, of course,
uh, spoiler alert, uh, even in
the video games as well.
Uh, ellie and um Bella Ram.
So they're gay.
She's a lesbian.
Spoiler alert.
Yeah, that's, and the openingof the game makes that very
clear.
Because she has a thing withone of her fellow survivors,
dina, who's fucking hot, right,okay, so In the game, in the
(40:14):
game, and yeah, but Ellieherself is actually a cute
little girl too, so it's notlike she's, she doesn't look
like Bella Ramsey.
That's all I'm saying.
Josh (40:24):
I got you.
Zach (40:24):
And so it's something
about every time I see her now
on screen and they're trying tolike like they had this
promotional poster for Last ofUs Season 2.
Yeah, and it's this.
It's actually the cover art onLast of Us Season 2, part 2, the
Game Right.
Is this Ellie's kind of like?
It's like shadowed, she's likelooking straight at you, she's
kind of got her nose down andshe's got this grimace and angry
(40:48):
face and it's very intenselooking whatever.
Bella Ramsey just looksdumb-faced.
She can't pull that off.
Her range of getting angry justdoes not work at all.
So I don't like.
And also there in the verybeginning of the of the part of
the game at the end of seasonone in the show and the game
(41:11):
goes off the exact same waywhere Ellie has that
conversation saying you know howit went down?
How you're telling me it wentdown with the fireflies.
You know, if you're telling methat, that that they couldn't
find a cure, that they saidthere was no, even though I'm
immune, it doesn't matter, theycouldn't do anything with it, if
you're telling me that's thetruth, then I'll believe you,
(41:33):
whatever.
And Joel lies because at theend of season one and also in
the game that he ended upkilling everybody because the
fireflies were trying tobasically harvest her entire
organs to try to find a reasonwhy she was immune to the virus,
right?
Or to the fungus.
Well, he couldn't let thathappen, so he shot up the whole
(41:54):
fucking hospital and killedeverybody and got her out of
there and then lied to her aboutit, right, so that when you go
into opening a scene of seasontwo, basically the implication
is that Ellie knows that Joelwas lying Underneath, she knows
that that just couldn't be trueand so basically what Joel has
(42:15):
done is taken her purpose fromher.
She had this noble purpose thatshe was going to fulfill and
Joel is now taking that away.
I don't think she, even in thegame, necessarily understands
the implications.
That noble purpose meant thatshe was going to die, that we're
going to kill her, but sheknows that Joel's been lying to
her.
So there's like an immediateconflict and they kind of chalk
(42:37):
it up to where she's just beinga teenager.
But really that's what'sunderlying going on.
And also spoiler alert if youhaven't played the games.
But um, I'll, I'll hold that.
I'll.
Actually I'll hold this spoiler.
I'll hold this one for for fora few more episodes.
I'll see if they do it.
They made this may be the majordeparture that they may do, but
we'll find out.
But, um, I'll hold off on thisone.
(42:58):
But she just comes across likethere's, there's an emotional
depth there whenever you'replaying the game and you feel it
and you're like, okay, I canunderstand this.
And and the, the, the voiceactress that plays ellie in the
games does it really well, it'sactually ashley johnson.
Yeah, she was played her mom inseason one when they did that
flashback, it was that actressshe actually does the voice of
(43:19):
ellie in the games is ashleyjohnson.
Great job.
I don't know why they didn'tjust fucking cast her, but okay,
she would have sounded justlike her.
She would have been great.
She may not have been able toplay a 14-year-old because she's
definitely older now, but theymay have been able to do it.
We'll make it work.
Definitely cuter than BellaRamsey when her doing it, bella
(43:43):
Ram ramsey, because heremotional range is just not
there, it just comes across.
She's just it's not convincing,whiny, fucking little child,
and it's just kind of likepetulant.
And of course they also openthe entire season with her
beating the shit out of afull-grown man and it's just
like no, that's so.
(44:04):
They're already doing the wholegirl boss, girl power fucking
thing right off the bat and itmakes no fucking sense.
And they even kind of allude.
They kind of they kind of gotaway with it a little bit.
They kind of backed off a littlebit whenever, uh, the male
character like punches her inthe nose, uh, and then she, you
know, fights back and she getshim into like an arm bar and she
(44:25):
makes him tap out and she'sabout to break his arm and it
just looks ridiculous.
At one point, uh, she all hehad to do was just like lift up
and like slam her down and wouldhave knocked her out, but he
didn't.
But you know, so like this, youknow, 100-pound, soaking wet
little girl is not going to takedown this dude.
It's just absurd, but anyway.
So they do that.
(44:45):
But then they kind of walk itback a little bit by implying
that he held back on his punch,otherwise he would have knocked
her out.
Josh (44:55):
I was like, yeah, we
should have saw that this isn't
Three Ninjas.
Yes, obviously Everyone knowsthat, so thank you.
He got his ass kicked by, sowhen?
Zach (45:02):
I first saw that I was
like, oh, here we go.
And then they said, yeah, hewas pulling his punches,
otherwise you would have beenknocked out.
Cole was like yeah, thank you,thank you, because that's,
that's reality.
Thank you, yeah, but whatever.
And then not working.
She's got a slit in her eyebrow.
Yeah, it's tough, sure, yeah,exactly she's tough now, which
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apparently sometimes that'sactually can be an indicator
that she's in a gang, apparentlythat's vanilla ice.
Josh (45:27):
I think sorry that.
Zach (45:27):
Yeah, it's a gang thing
but anyway, um, some gangs do
that, um, so I I would say it's,it's not working for me right
now.
They also, uh, there's a newcharacter, uh dynamic, that that
is brought in um to the, to theshow, that's in the game and
it's Abby and basically, uh,spoiler which is not a really
(45:49):
spoiler is uh, when Joel killedeverybody in the, uh in the
hospital, the fireflies, there'srepercussions of that.
Those people had friends andfamily, right, that are now
hunting Joel because they wantrevenge and abby is one of those
people because joel killed herfather.
Oh, okay, uh in the, I think hewas one of the doctors, right,
(46:10):
so, um, so now she's on arevenge tour.
Time jump.
Five years later they this ishow the season one opener, uh,
closed, was that uh, they comeacross the community that that
joel's in.
So the fact five years oflooking for him, it looks like
they're eventually going to findhim, and so we'll see how that
plays out in the coming episodes.
You look at the preview comingsoon.
(46:33):
This season or whatever.
They show little snippets andstuff.
It looks like it's got a lotmore action, they've got a
bigger budget.
It looks like it's going to begood.
I just don't know how some, someof the good things, that about
the, the last of us, what makesthe game so much different and
what makes it so good and thatnaughty dog did very well is.
It's like you are like playinga tv show or like a movie like
(46:55):
the.
The animation is really good.
The facial expressions, thevoice acting, the, the plot,
everything works really reallywell.
In part one, part two, itstarts to fall apart a little
bit.
It's not as good and I'm hopingthat the show can rectify some
(47:17):
of that without departing toofar from it.
But I was going to tell youright now, people, just if they
stick to the games.
If you haven't played the gamesthen you're not going to know
what I'm to the games.
If you haven't played the gamesthen you're not gonna know what
I'm talking about.
If you have played the games,you know what I'm talking about.
It's about to get.
Some people are going to getupset, I think, at what may
happen in the next episode, nextto maybe two or three episodes,
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okay, and so that'd be a littleteaser for folks if you have
not played the game.
If you play the games you knowI'm talking about and it is.
I remember whenever I, when Ifirst started playing it, when
it came out, uh, I was kind oflike, really, this is how we're
gonna go with this.
It was just you.
Well, here's maybe not aspoiler for the game, because it
doesn't really matter for amovie, but you think that
(47:59):
whenever you're going andplaying part two, you're going
to be playing you half the game.
You play as somebody else.
You play like the villain andit's kind of weird, but it's
also this like it's abby andit's this butch chick and you
like go through her backstoryand she's got like huge arms,
like she's like a muscle mommyand she just looks dykey and
it's just like a bad characterand nobody.
(48:20):
It's just weird.
And so we'll see how they'regoing with that.
Um, neil druckman is.
He's a gay, gay man andobviously kind of a lefty, and
so I think he's he couldn't getaway with some of this stuff and
doing in the video game that hewanted to do.
That's the reason why thatseason one episode where he
showed the whole life of thosetwo gay dudes in the apocalypse-
living together like he'sfulfilling, like all his things
(48:41):
that he fantasies and thingsthat he wanted to put into the
game, that he couldn't, he's nowdoing into the show.
I feel like okay, and so I'mjust warning I think, uh, it's
going to get gayer, is what I'mgoing to say.
Well metaphorically gayer andliterally gayer.
Okay, but so that was somethingI didn't like Okay, all I didn't
like it, okay, all right,another one, a little sidebar I
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didn't like.
This was actually something Ithink I liked.
Last episode was the studio.
Okay With Seth Rogen yeah.
It's about the.
I liked it at first.
It is now just a.
It's boring.
Okay, the last episode Iwatched.
It didn't really kind of.
If Seth Rogen's not, I think, akey component to the episode,
it doesn't work.
(49:22):
He has to be kind of like thekey component, cause the whole
premise of it is that he's kindof this junior, first time a
studio head of a studio, andthere's, you know, he's just
trying to keep it all together,right, and he's also towing the
line between making them, makinga movie and making money and
also making film and making art,right, and so he's trying to
like find this middle ground.
And that's the conflict, that'sthe tension, that's where the
(49:44):
humor comes from.
And when he's not, it's whenthe focus isn't that.
It just doesn't work for me,and that's.
This past episode was just kindof like yeah, so what did you
like?
Well, so what?
Josh (49:52):
I did like let's say,
we've shown a lot.
Zach (49:58):
Well, again, I don't
really watch stuff that I don't
think I'm going to like Iusually don't watch stuff that I
do like.
Josh (50:04):
I remember you saying that
.
Zach (50:04):
So when I say something
that I didn't like, it's usually
I'm getting nitpicky.
Usually I still like the Lastof Us, but I didn't like the way
that it opened.
Okay.
So that's definitely mycritique.
Soft open yeah, if there'ssomething that's just straight
up fucking trash.
Josh (50:18):
I'm turning it off oh yes,
I'll push through, just so I
can talk shit about it.
Zach (50:22):
Uh, what I did like.
Uh, apple TV generally has goodstuff, right.
Josh (50:26):
I just a lot of times you
can't go.
Zach (50:28):
I will say the only thing
that I did not like.
Everybody universally fuckingloves this show and I thought it
was just kind of yeah, whichone?
Ted Lasso?
Josh (50:37):
I think is kind of.
I I think that one blonde ladyis beautiful to look at.
Zach (50:40):
Yeah, she's nice to look
at.
Josh (50:42):
I never watched it.
I couldn't get into it.
Zach (50:43):
It's just.
Josh (50:44):
It's not good.
Zach (50:45):
It's like sickening, just
how Like.
The only, actually the only,character that I liked in there
I can't even think of his name,roy, where he was just he was
the curmudgeon that just hated.
Everybody Loved that character.
I, ted Lasso, was just kind ofboring and just goofy and silly
and just also super woke.
It's not like in your face woke, but it's like I don't know.
(51:09):
Okay, I Googled the wholeepisode about Ted Lasso and how
much Apparently it's coming back.
They did like four seasons.
Josh (51:14):
I like looking at that
blonde lady.
Apparently it's coming back.
She has a great body.
She's a tall lady, yeah.
She's very attractive.
Zach (51:25):
That's big, she's a tall
lady.
She's yeah, yeah, like it'svery attractive.
Um, that's about it.
She was the, she was the nun inum in game of thrones.
The shame that they ended upputting the table in the.
The mountain had her way with.
Josh (51:32):
She was also the lesbian
mom in uh sex education.
Zach (51:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's it,
yeah, exactly um, I missed, so
the thing that I did like onApple TV was your Friends and
Neighbors.
So a new show that came out.
It's got Jon Hamm.
It has Olivia Munn, who's sexyas fuck still, and Amanda Peet,
who was in Saving Silverman.
She was the crazy lady it wasawesome.
Josh (51:58):
So I need to check that
out.
Zach (51:59):
It's interesting.
I think it's not really acomedy, it's a dramedy.
I guess you could say it isdefinitely more on the drama
side.
I think it's either a bookseries or maybe it was based on
a true story.
I'm not really sure.
I have to go back and look.
I may be mixing that up, butbasically it's this hedge fund
(52:20):
manager, this super rich dudeliving in an affluent
neighborhood.
He ends up losing his job andhe basically, you know, he's
divorced, he's got all thesebills to pay and he can't find
another job, I guess because heI don't know, he's been
blackballed or whatever in thearea and he can't find another
job.
So he basically resorts tocrime, but he basically robs all
(52:42):
his friends and neighbors.
Fuck, he can't find another job, so he basically resorts to
crime, but he basically robs allhis friends and neighbors and
he like steals watches and likevery high dollar shit that they
just have laying around thatthey probably won't miss, and he
ends up breaking into theirhouses.
Because they live in theseaffluent neighborhoods, they
don't have like security andnobody really, you know, think
the way he describes it is likethey've gotten so used to living
(53:02):
in these affluent neighborhoodsand this security.
That's a false sense of security.
Half the time they leave thedoor unlocked and he just walks
in, steals their shit, stealsenough to where they would just
think they misplaced it orwouldn't even know that it was
missing.
And then he hawks it and that'show he ends up getting money.
You can tell it's like aBreaking Bad type thing, to
where he's starting to enjoy it.
(53:23):
Okay, and so I kind of I'm intothat, I like, I like, I like
shows and I think people, thisis what the draw is is that the,
the fall from grace, the, thedescent into either madness or
depravity, or criminals are hot.
(53:44):
I think that's interesting andso you know how someone with all
this money can can go to a lifeof crime, because just because
one thing changes, yeah, it'sinteresting.
Okay, um, mostly obviously Ifull disclosure.
I was like I want to check itout because like, oh, it's got
living money and I could justlike, look at her, she's really
attractive, because she's veryattractive, she's cool, she's
married to a silly bitch.
Josh (54:00):
Yeah, he's, he is a silly
bitch, he is.
I never understood that and shewent through breast cancer and
this whole thing.
She's had a whole like fuckingthing.
I watched a lot of interviewswith her.
Yeah, she's a fighter.
Zach (54:09):
I'm a big fan of Olivia
Munn back in her Attack of the
Show days.
She's a cool lady Like one ofmy favorites, right, she's
people that.
That's the reason I like henrycavill.
I appreciate people that thatthat are nerd, actual nerds at
heart and they want to do it, doit right.
Whenever they did.
(54:29):
Uh, she was in.
She played psylocke in uh x-menapocalypse.
You know they all had the fourhorsemen, all had their like
suits that that look like theyall kind of like had the same
kind of theme and style to them.
Or whatever archangel and evenuh magneto, they all had this
kind of look, have the same kindof theme and style to them, or
whatever Archangel and even aMagneto, they all had this kind
of look.
She was like adamant andpressed and pushed to have the
(54:50):
more traditional Psylocke look.
That's yeah.
Josh (54:53):
Yeah, she's cool.
Yeah, so she, I think she'sprobably.
She's probably one of those.
I'm a fan of hers, not justbecause she's hot Like a lot of
celebrities.
Zach (55:02):
I like yeah, but she's
cool.
Josh (55:03):
She's the one that I think
I would like want to have a cup
of coffee with and just likepick her brain and shoot the
shit with and riff with.
Zach (55:10):
Exactly right, that's a
good call Because she was a
correspondent on the Daily Showwhere she did comedy bits.
Josh (55:17):
So she has a funny, she's
cool shit, so definitely a big
MonoVemon fan.
Zach (55:23):
Yes, so that's obviously
the reason why I was like I got
to check this out.
And.
I'm into it.
I also do like Jon Hamm.
Jon Hamm's interesting.
I watch Mad Men.
I don't know if you've everseen that show.
I've dabbled a tad.
Josh (55:34):
I've never.
I've never like I didn't lostit, I didn't in.
And same same thing with suits.
Zach (55:40):
I've never locked in and
been like yeah, we're headed
through suits is one of thoseones where it's like you, just
it was like I don't know thosekind of shows like that to where
they're just kind of like onthe.
I just kind of went throughthem and they were they're like
junk food to where they weregood enough, but they didn't
like draw me in to where likethey didn't satisfy me and mad
men, though I felt like I had tojust power through it, because
(56:03):
at some point the whole I getthat it's, it's this critically
acclaimed thing and it made alot, had a lot of commentary
about, like you know, um, uh,society at the time in the
sixties and work between womenand women and all this kind of
bullshit, banging your secretary, blah, blah, and all this kind
of crap.
Um, you and all this kind ofcrap, the way the 60s were back
then, and it has some reflectionto today's world.
(56:24):
Whatever, blah, blah, blah,blah.
Jerk off.
Jerk off, but I do like JonHamm.
Yeah, it was kind of boringPretty much if he wasn't on.
He was the only draw to me Ifhe wasn't on screen the show
kind of sucked.
Josh (56:41):
Yeah, I think I became a
Jon Hamm, I think Bridesmaids.
I'd seen him a thing before,but to me he really shined
comedically on that one becausehe played that asshole goofball.
If you remember, in BridesmaidsJon Hamm was that guy.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah heplayed yes and then he just yes.
Then he was in Baby Driver.
Zach (56:55):
He was like a more serious
role.
He can do serious stuff.
I think he does really well.
And then where Tag Remember themovie Tag.
Josh (57:03):
Yes, but he was also
really good in the Ben Affleck
movie, the bank rob movie.
Fuck, what's the name of thatmovie?
You know what I'm talking about.
It's a great movie.
Ben Affleck and what BenAffleck, Jeremy Renner's in it.
They're in Boston, they're bankrobbers.
You know what I'm talking about, Remember.
He goes.
He says I can't, you can't askwhere we're going, you can't ask
(57:26):
who we're going to hurt.
We're going to hurt some people.
I need your help.
Zach (57:30):
Oh, the town, the town,
jon Hamm's in that.
Oh, ben Affleck, I'm sorry.
Josh (57:41):
When you were saying Ben
Affleck, I'm saying Okay, so
yeah, Jon Hamm is a good.
Zach (57:43):
He was in Top Gun Maverick
.
He can play like he plays agreat asshole.
Great asshole yeah okay, andwhen he plays a, he can do
comedy too really well.
His delivery is good.
Yes, he was also with Friends,with Kids serious than that more
serious, but I think that's.
That's the part of it what hedoes?
(58:04):
The comedy, well, he plays theserious part, yeah, well, uh, in
in comedies shout out john hamjohn ham.
Thanks, man.
Apparently he has a huge dicktoo, does he really?
yeah he's got the ham how'd youknow, that I mean you know this
word on the screen I didn't knowthat well, shout out john ham,
nice cock so does.
Josh (58:19):
Uh, billy bob thornton
apparently has a huge wiener
there's rumors that he actuallyhad sex with uh hallie berry on
that set of swordfish not sorfit.
Uh, monster's ball, monsterball, excuse me, there's there's
rumors they actually had sex onlike I don't know how true it
is.
I wasn't there.
I've seen that scene, maybe soum I probably, maybe I don't
know.
Yeah, billy bob thornton is awild man back in the day, yeah
(58:41):
apparently he has a huge wiener.
Zach (58:43):
Okay, cool.
Josh (58:44):
Nice man.
Zach (58:45):
Yep.
Josh (58:46):
Shout out Jon Hamm.
Zach (58:47):
Big dick, big wiener.
Fact for you.
Big dick energy Hollywoodwiener fact for you.
But anyway, so that was thething that I did, like I'm
enjoying it, they just did.
I think it was episode threethat I just ended up watching
and it and it's sticking for mefor right now the studio is
falling off and that one'srising for me.
Josh (59:03):
Apple TV has some of the
best shows I've ever seen.
If you do not subscribe toApple TV, next time you get, if
they offer you a three-monthsubscription free through Apple,
through your iPhone, whatever,take it, cancel it at the end of
it, for.
But I'm telling you right nowsci-fi, drama, yes, I mean, they
have some of the best shows.
Zach (59:23):
Consistently good usually.
Josh (59:26):
Yeah, shrinking's good yes
.
Zach (59:28):
Every streaming service
has its kind of like crap.
They do, they do.
Josh (59:31):
But Silo Invasion.
Zach (59:35):
Shrinking Foundation.
Josh (59:38):
There's something else in
there too.
It was only Constellation.
It was what two seasons.
Yeah.
Great.
I wish they wouldn't havecanceled it.
That's an incredible show.
There's also pretty good movieson there, I mean it's the same.
Everybody cycles their moviesand shit.
But that new Murderbot showcoming out.
Zach (59:52):
Yeah, that looks
interesting.
Josh (59:53):
That's based off a little.
I looked it up it's a bookseries about it.
Zach (59:58):
I was kind of disappointed
that there's like a humanoid
looking thing underneath and Iwas like what the fuck?
I was kind of hoping he wouldstay in the robot.
Josh (01:00:05):
I did too, but then I'm
like I'm okay with it, I don't
need to see Star's Guard.
Zach (01:00:08):
It was kind of weird.
Josh (01:00:10):
I'm okay with that thing.
We'll see.
Zach (01:00:12):
That was kind of like when
Pedro Pascal took the
Mandalorian helmet off.
It's like I don't need to seeyour face.
Credibility no 100.
Um, they, yeah.
Someone please have the fuckingsack to make a movie to where
they.
You never see the actress face,yeah speaking of.
Josh (01:00:26):
I've been on a big star
wars kick lately.
Old star wars not this new shit, but I went back and watched a
lot of documentaries stokedabout andor season two coming
out.
Zach (01:00:33):
Can't wait.
Josh (01:00:34):
It looks good I've been,
I've been catching up on.
I went back and watched theoriginal three.
Uh, then I went back and didsome more diving into
documentaries on the making ofStar Wars and like I really wish
that I could have I mean, Iwasn't alive when they, when
they read, but I couldn't Ireally wish that one day soon,
or in our lifetime at least,that someone would make a sci-fi
(01:00:55):
, a space opera, something thatprolific again, like something
cultural, shocking, so I couldexperience it like people did
when star wars yeah, like adefining moment I mean I'm
talking about like the end ofthe 70s, like when it hit dude,
like at the chinese theater theydid the big grand opening and
to watch people's like,literally movie, life change
forever.
(01:01:16):
Like nothing had that nothingwas the same after that.
Zach (01:01:18):
Well, we had, we had in
game, in game it was, that was
10-year period that led to oneof the greatest things I ever
saw with my eyes.
Josh (01:01:27):
I think I'm just being One
of the greatest theater
experiences I've ever had.
I still looking back at all themovies you and I have seen over
the years.
I'm talking about doublefeatures, big films.
I'm talking about even when wesaw Pacific Rim and IMAX 3D and
blew our mind.
Nothing will ever capture thein-game movie, no, and the
experience that all of us as anaudience together, everybody.
(01:01:47):
It was almost like a religious.
You're all together in the samething.
And when it all happened andeverybody cheered together, you
like Goosebumps, you fought,everybody like fought together,
you cried together.
It was just I don't know.
Zach (01:02:02):
I just don't feel like
we'll ever recreate whenever it
comes out of the, it stillhappens.
Actually, it's happening to me,right now, just thinking about
it, I get chills whenever theportals are opening up and
everybody's walking out and he'slike avengers assemble and then
thor goes.
Ah, he screams and everybodystarts I, and then I see ant-man
punch.
Josh (01:02:19):
Yeah, like the chita, like
I, I still get chills when I
watch it, it's leviathan, it'syeah, dude I I don't think we'll
ever get it again, and but whatI was saying is that going back
and watching like how difficultit was to make these films and
I didn't realize that georgelucas was a big he's like, fuck
the man.
Like he does not like studios.
He like.
He went to the bank for a loanto do the empire strikes back.
(01:02:43):
He didn't direct that.
He didn't direct the EmpireStrikes Back and he did not
direct Return of the Jedi.
But he went for like $33-$40million from the bank because of
the success of A New Hope to doit himself, with no help from
the studio.
He wanted it to be his project,his director.
Zach (01:02:59):
That's the reason why
those two movies specifically
well, Empire Strikes Backspecifically is so good.
Yeah, Well, not only that, andpeople were nervous.
Studio input.
Josh (01:03:08):
And people were nervous
too, just because sequels don't
usually do very well.
Zach (01:03:11):
Yeah.
Josh (01:03:11):
At that point.
They just usually don't.
Zach (01:03:13):
Yeah.
Josh (01:03:14):
But do?
The Empire Strikes Back, in myopinion is probably one of the
greatest sequels of all time,and when that one hit dude, it
did better than A New Hope.
Zach (01:03:21):
It was just wild.
We'll make that note.
We should do a.
Best Sequels Top five sequels.
Josh (01:03:27):
I have Best Trilogy, but
I'll do.
Zach (01:03:28):
Best Sequels, or Best
Trilogy too, as well.
Josh (01:03:30):
I was on a tear with John
Williams doing the music.
There's a documentary onDisney+ I recommend you guys
watch.
It's about John Williams.
You don't realize how manyfilms you grew up with and he
has scored oh yeah, on a simplepiano.
And also his son.
I didn't know this.
His son is the lead singer oftoto from the 80s.
Oh yeah, I didn't know that.
So if the music runs deep, butlike hearing him do like ever,
(01:03:55):
spielberg, of course, has usedhim in all kinds.
He's done harry potter, he'sdone john, he's done everything
you think of.
John williams has dabbled in,of course, hans zimmer.
And then there's, um, oh,what's his name?
Not brandon shore?
He does all lord of the ringsstuff.
I forget his name.
I have him on pandora, but likethat there's that particular
documentary.
Is is rock solid if you want towatch one, and there's another
one about industrial lights andmagic.
But like, talk about aninnovator like I.
(01:04:17):
I've you know, because I'vealso read and seen things where
they talk about what's his name.
I just totally drew his nameStar Wars creator.
I just totally George Lucas.
George Lucas, excuse me.
Yeah, thank you, he's kind ofan asshole.
Yeah, I've seen interviewswhere he just kind of seems like
just a dick, but rightfully so,because he had to catch a lot
(01:04:38):
of flack during those movies too.
He dropped out of the filmactors guild, all this.
There's a dropped out of allthis stuff, um.
But I really kind of wish hewould come back.
I wish he wouldn't have soldstar wars.
I really wish he wouldn't have.
Zach (01:04:50):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I
think I think he did kind of uh,
the the episode one, two andthree he directed those he
directed those and I think thatkind of it's.
It's almost like um, it's likeZack Schneider.
Zack Schneider is better atbeing a producer executive
producer than he is being adirector or or I wouldn't say
(01:05:11):
director, but as a creator ofnew I uh a new IP, he's not like
.
Josh (01:05:16):
Yeah, rebel moon sucks ass
right A concept, but if he is
adapting.
Zach (01:05:21):
But he, but his director's
cut of Justice League is
fantastic, yeah, well, suckerPunch is fantastic.
Sucker Punch, yeah, but I meanit's.
I can see why people don't likeit, right.
I can see why it's notcritically acclaimed or whatever
you know, or critics shit on it.
So I can like see that, but hesays what I'm saying, but he's
dealing with source materialthat he didn't create on his own
(01:05:42):
.
Josh (01:05:42):
Rebel Moon was all right
out of his own brain.
I'm sorry I misheard you.
You're talking about originalconcept ideas?
Yes, but if he?
Zach (01:05:49):
takes George Lucas, I
think he's better he would have
been.
I think the thing with GeorgeLucas, he has such a mind for
this.
It's like Tolkien, it's like CSLewis.
They have this, thisimagination, to where they can
build this entire universe, andit's very intricate and detailed
in their own brains and theyjust need to get it out onto
paper.
They're incredible storytellersgreat storytellers, but not
(01:06:10):
that good of a of movie makers.
Josh (01:06:13):
Yeah, that makes sense,
that's what someone said about
because he didn't direct, empireor or return, and that's what a
lot of all the people had saidabout George Lewis, is that he
is an incredible story, becauseeven his first film he did was
THX.
Thx, something is a number.
It was a sci-fi kind of a weirdblack and white style movie.
It was a short film from the70s he did that.
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they all were like we've never,seen anything like this before
in our life, and that's whereTHX got the name from for this
thing.
Zach (01:06:49):
But yeah, like you said,
they've all said the same thing
that he is an incrediblestoryteller, yeah, but like you
said when he went back, into theprequels, which we appreciate
those now more than ever becauseof the shit show that we got,
but yeah, they're not incrediblemovies.
Josh (01:06:55):
There's a lot of mistakes
made in it dialogues but I think
he's better as a as a worldbuilder story he's maybe a
producer like be there, becausehe was there for the other ones,
yes but something to lean on.
I would really have appreciatedhim in these newer ones yeah,
and see, you could tell.
Zach (01:07:12):
I think that's what the
the key there with these new
ones.
These new ones didn't have anysoul.
The soul of star wars wassucked out of them because the
soul was george lucas.
It's true, right, and so maybe,yeah, episode, yeah, episode
one, two and three, and people,even people, kind of forget
about this.
But if you look back and watchReturn of the Jedi, the whole
Ewok battle in Endor with theEwoks and everything is goofy
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and silly and kind of dumb.
It doesn't make any sense.
It's kind of dumb, right, ifyou really think about it, like
it's kind of goofy stuff inthose movies, jar Jar Binks.
Josh (01:07:44):
Right, fucking goofy.
I think he now knows that thatwas kind of Right.
Zach (01:07:49):
And he even kind of
admitted he said in his
interviews like or it's supposedto be some kind of.
It was also he's making thisfor kids.
Yeah, and it was trying to selltoys, right.
Josh (01:08:00):
He was trying to market
that because he had all the
rights he's trying to get hisfucking money back because when
the movies came through on the anew hope.
He won all the rights to allthat and he has made a yes.
Zach (01:08:11):
I mean but yeah, to draw
back to your original point, is
that nothing's come out sincethen.
That is new ip, that is worldbuilding, that has created one
of the greatest american ips ofall time.
Yeah, even the marvel cinematicuniverse, phase, whatever, up
to end game, that 10-year periodyou can't.
They're not.
(01:08:31):
It's not really a comparisonbecause it's actually drawing on
already established sourcematerial, correct?
I'm talking about original,original art like that where
someone has created a made amovie or a series of movies, a
trilogy that is all original,that has that has created a
made-in-movie or a series ofmovies, a trilogy that is all
original, that has created acult following.
An entire industry is createdaround this movie.
Josh (01:08:50):
Okay, but I said we're
talking about original because,
okay, you know what I'm sayingNot having a book source
material.
Zach (01:08:55):
Yeah, yeah, and Star Wars
is the only thing that comes to
mind.
I thought the.
Josh (01:08:58):
Matrix was going to pull
it.
No, the first one, one firstone could have.
The first one had me.
I was like okay, we, but theyjust kind of, but they're not
making parks?
Zach (01:09:06):
they're not making.
Josh (01:09:07):
No, they're not, of course
not.
No, no, no, there's nothing.
Nothing has been yes, star wars.
Zach (01:09:11):
They make games, they make
books, they make tv shows, they
make there's parks, there'sfucking toys, there's.
Josh (01:09:17):
Everything is merchandised
now, with that being said, I
know that, but yeah well, what's, what's gonna be the next thing
?
We'll stick to.
It has to be original, becauseI was gonna say I know that
there's.
I know people are like well,there's harry potter, well,
that's still based off of booksthat someone created.
Yes, and it's done really welltoo so I'll take a step back.
Zach (01:09:34):
But it was done by like
the same.
It's basically the same, it's,it's, it's not like lord of the
rings.
That was written you, you know,in the fucking forties, and
then they made the, they adaptedit.
You know, 80 years later, okay,that's different.
Uh, I'd say Harry Potter is agood, good comparison to Star
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Wars, because the books and themovies were made right on top of
each other Was waitressing andmade those like, yeah, she wrote
them, and she was heavilyinvolved in the filmmaking
process.
So actually that's actually agood comparison, even though the
movies themselves are notoriginal.
They were adapted from books.
But because the books came outand they literally have, they
made the movies right after thebooks came out actually, I think
(01:10:17):
the first but then the firstmovie come out before the last
book was even written uh, yesyeah, so I mean that's all one
universe that's me oh, I feellike that's a good, that's a
good analogy.
They got parks and everything'sbeen marked.
I mean, harry potter is a hugeuniverse, a huge franchise, and
ip, that american ip, that, um,that you could say, uh, is
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comparable to star wars.
I think star wars is obviouslybigger.
It's something definitely moreglobal.
I agree it's been around longer, so it's got more to it, more
meat on the bones.
But Harry Potter, yeah, I thinkyou can put it in the same
category.
Jk Rowling has created auniverse she's a storyteller
that went from books to moviesreally quickly and it spurred on
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the tentacles everywhere.
And now it's we're going to beexperiencing Harry Potter for
decades.
Josh (01:11:10):
Yeah, and I was saying new
Harry Potter stuff is going to
continue to come out and I and Ium these last few weeks, as we
haven't recorded, I've beenwatching a lot of um.
I was on a George Lewis guywent back and watched um.
I was on a George Lewis.
I went back and watched IndianaJones.
I watched some of those.
I was trying to.
I was going back and lookingfor like profound movies of
their time and I was goingthrough lists of the top hundred
greatest movies of all time andyou and I have probably seen
(01:11:31):
over half of it.
The thing I have a hard timedoing is I'm trying to go back
and watch old films that theysay are like that.
At the time they were the creamof the crop and, like some of
the like, gone with the Wind.
Casablanca, the.
Zach (01:11:48):
Seven Samaritans.
We've talked about this and youknow my stance on it.
Josh (01:11:51):
I know your stance on it,
but I'm going to, I think, try
to watch them because I can.
You know we're usually overanalytical on movies and stuff,
but I want to try to figure outwhat makes them why.
I mean, obviously, at the time,at their time, they were huge.
I know that yeah but you know,you go back and watch wizard of
oz.
I can watch that and can takeit for what it is.
(01:12:12):
I mean, it's one of the great.
It's on the top everybody's top100 list, one of the greatest
films ever made, for its time,yeah, um.
But like I've never sat andwatched gone with the wind, I've
never watched casablan.
Zach (01:12:21):
I think there's a reason
why I can't watch these movies
as soon as a character comes onthere and is like Harold's
looking at you, kid.
Nobody fucking talks like that.
Josh (01:12:30):
I can't get into it.
It doesn't bother me.
That doesn't bother me as bad.
Zach (01:12:35):
Yeah, spare a nickel
something.
No, who the fuck?
I can't do it.
Josh (01:12:38):
I went back and watched.
Uh, I had, uh, I put on MaryPoppins the house or chitty bang
bang.
I watched, had Harper watchingthem, but you know, like I was
watching some of those and it'suh, and then I'm cause.
Those aren't as bad to watch,they're a little more.
But they're, but they but theit's crazy to kind of you're
(01:13:07):
like fuck please stop singing.
Zach (01:13:08):
But it's wild to go back
and look.
It was one musical that Ireally, really actually enjoyed
greatest showman on earth, no,no, what a rock of ages, because
it was all journey songs.
I like grace for musicals.
I might definitely rock of agesokay, I've never watched it
because it's journey, because Ilove journey.
It's all journey songs.
Josh (01:13:17):
It's a good one uh, but
yeah, I've been trying to go
back.
I've watched a lot of 80s, butI'm going to stick to it and I
think I'm going to take the 100greatest films of all time.
I'm going to watch all of them.
There's a lot of films thatI've never seen.
There's some that I've seen,but I want to go back and
actually watch some of these,like they say, like Gone with
the Wind, Like my mom loves thatmovie too.
(01:13:39):
But in opening, like you said,it's just so much different than
the day and age that I live inand the movies that I'm used to
watching.
It's like this is fucking lame.
Zach (01:13:48):
Yes, but I have to.
Josh (01:13:49):
I'm going to have to just
shut up and just watch it.
And I'll let you know, let meknow.
Zach (01:13:54):
I know you won't watch
them, because I've seen clips of
things and I've watched some ofthese movies in the past, but
to me, whenever I'm watchingthem, it feels like I'm doing a
history assignment.
Well, you kind of are, and I'mbeing forced to watch this
Whenever we watch the Odysseywith Armand Desanti.
Josh (01:14:11):
Hold on the TV movie.
Yes, the TV movie.
Did you have Miss Myers in highschool?
Oh yeah, 100%.
Did I tell you what she saidwhen she put that on?
So we're going to watch, right,and everybody's like man, I
want to watch that, whichactually it's not a terrible
movie.
You can still watch it online.
Yeah, she was like what's that?
Guy's name, you just saidArmand Asante.
(01:14:31):
She said that she's like well,he's playing Odysseus and he is,
and we're all like.
She was like honey not stillburn.
Zach (01:14:39):
I was like yeah, she said
that.
Josh (01:14:41):
Well, we turned the movie
on.
I'm like I get it.
It's pretty good looking guy,yeah, yeah.
But uh, which Christopher Nolanis redoing the Odyssey?
Zach (01:14:47):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I watched it.
I watched it.
People are saying that it mightbe one of the greatest films
he's ever done.
Maybe they always said, sincehe was, you know the Batman
films, you know inception,interstellar, the one movie I
hadn't seen, it his that Iwanted to go back and watch was
memento and I went back andwatch it.
Josh (01:15:08):
It's weird ass, Crazy,
weird movie.
Zach (01:15:10):
But I was like okay, this
is if I, if if I didn't know,
you know?
Josh (01:15:17):
this is classic Nolan
movie.
Zach (01:15:18):
yeah, he's good in that
yeah, um, crazy movie, um, but
um, but yeah, um, I just the theold movie thing.
Like I said, people don't talkabout that anymore.
Josh (01:15:30):
Can you go?
Zach (01:15:31):
so what's your cutoff
whenever they start doing?
You know, you know, here here'sone of you game, yeah but you
can do 80s that I'm at yeah,okay, I'm talking about the vein
that you're talking about 30sand 40s.
That, yeah, the golden age.
That's what they call it, man.
Anytime we talk about goldenage like that kind of you know
no one who gives, no one knowswho the fuck you know Cary Grant
(01:15:51):
is.
If it has Cary Grant in it, I'mnot fucking watching it.
That's all I'm saying.
It I did.
Josh (01:16:00):
I did go back and watch.
I watched mighty ducks one andtwo the other day, uh, which, if
you haven't watched those in along, they're not nineties.
I don't know where I was goingin thirties and forties, but I
was jumping in the nineties andjumping in these old films.
Cause here lately, likeespecially when you have kids,
like you go back, you reminisceon your own and some like Hannah
(01:16:25):
Montana and like High SchoolMusical and some of the other
stuff.
But like the other day I put onLittle Monsters with Fred
Savage and his brother and then,like Howie Mandel, plays
Maurice or what I think his nameis, maurice.
You know, have you seen thatmovie?
You know what I'm talking aboutvaguely.
I think so that's where, likethey come from under the bed and
Howie Mandel plays the guy withthe leather jacket and he comes
up from under the bed and how,I'm in a place, the guy with the
leather jacket, uh, and hecomes up from one of the beds a
monster.
And then, uh, boy is the evil,the bad guy at the end, and they
(01:16:47):
capture his brother and thelights the fuck.
Zach (01:16:51):
I know, I know you've seen
this.
I know I've seen it because itwas something for some like I
can't.
What you're describing as likeflashes in my brain and I can
picture it, but I can't.
Couldn't tell you one thingthat happened in that movie.
Josh (01:17:04):
So we put it on and
Harper's always like I don't
want to watch that.
It's from 1989.
What does it say?
Little Monsters?
It's on anybody that wasinterested.
You can watch it with your kids.
It's on Plex and Pluto, forfree, 89.
Yeah, so that's Little Monsters.
Zach (01:17:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Josh (01:17:20):
So anyways, well, I had it
on and she was like I don't
want to.
Well, then all of a sudden Ilook over and she's like into it
and I'm like, yeah, not all theshit that mom and dad watch is
bad, it's fun.
But they say and do things thatwould never happen.
Like everyone is so, like theysay shit that you could just
never.
They say retard and all kindsof stuff you can't say no more.
I've watched Angels in theOutfield.
(01:17:40):
I've been going back andpulling a kid in King Arthur's
Court.
They're campy and corny as fuckbut they're so fun.
Yeah, yeah.
And then I went back and I wason a baseball kick.
Have you watched Field ofDreams lately?
Yeah, that may be one ofCostner's best movies ever.
That's good, and hats off tothe lady who plays his wife.
(01:18:02):
She may be depicted in film asone of the greatest wives of all
time to let him do all thatshit.
Yeah, that's one with no with,and she's, I mean, supporting
him a fucking midlife crisis,higher way.
And then when she had the same,she was like that's a dream you
had.
He was like, yeah, she's like.
I had that same dream.
I'm going to get my jacket.
Like no, no questions asked,we're keeping this fucking
(01:18:23):
baseball field.
We drain all of our savings.
I love you, I don't care.
I'm like god, what the fuck?
You know?
Most films there's like a youknow they're arguing.
Zach (01:18:31):
There's like a conflict
like if you watch a close
encounter.
Josh (01:18:34):
The third kind of his wife
fucking rolled out.
Yeah, she didn't even try tosupport his ass.
Yeah, she took the kids andthen he fucked off on a ship and
left.
Yeah, like which, by the way,evan, if you ever seen a movie,
I'd say what you want.
I would not have gotten onboard too many questions like
them, little dudes come out andthey picked him.
Like there's little ones,there's one big one and they do
(01:18:55):
hand symbols.
And don't get me wrong, I likethe movie, I like the music
score, but I don't know whatgoes on in there.
Like those pilots.
He didn't even ask.
Yeah, like what'd they do toyou?
The pilots come out.
Yeah, no, in the same clothes.
Zach (01:19:08):
There's no way Come on man
For multiple reasons.
First of all, you go onto thatship like you don't know what
the living conditions are goingto be, like you don't know what
the fucking food is going tostart putting shit in your ass.
Josh (01:19:20):
I always have a fear.
No way Stuff in me.
No way.
No one wears clothes.
It's like do I have to be nakedRight now?
Yes, but would you know you'renaked.
Zach (01:19:27):
That's also true.
Why?
Why are all the aliens naked inthose old 80s alien movies?
Josh (01:19:31):
Well, I mean, most aliens
are naked.
Zach (01:19:37):
I mean all the grays, I
mean I guess I'm going to get
butt naked and go 160 down theinterstate and if everybody just
has a cloaca and no dick orvagina, then there's no
competition.
Josh (01:19:46):
It doesn't matter if we're
naked now.
I guess there's nothing to showoff, I suppose.
Zach (01:19:53):
So that's what I need to
do.
Is I need to get butt naked,tuck my wiener and go 160 down
the interstate?
Yeah, you could, and I'd feellike an alien, yeah Well be
careful when you sit down.
Yeah, right, right, be careful.
Josh (01:20:01):
Right, I don't want you to
harm yourself, especially with
semen retention.
Zach (01:20:04):
Right, you don't want to
If you have.
Yeah, it's all swollen.
Try to harm his balls.
Yeah, I actually can just siton them Like a beanbag chair.
Josh (01:20:10):
Yeah, I don't know how I
got on the Close Encounters
thing.
Oh, have I mean?
I can recall that Jodie FosterI've seen it so many times
that's a good one.
I go back and watch sets.
I went back and watched the Menin Black movies.
Zach (01:20:28):
I will say here's an
observation from some of our
listeners about this particulartopic.
It's been commented on thatwhenever you like watching these
old movies and you'redescribing them to me, people
can tell that I don't give afuck.
Yeah, that's fine, and that'sokay.
I'm still gonna tell you like Idon't care what you think, I'm
(01:20:48):
still gonna tell you?
Oh yeah, I'm not watching that,yeah like I'm not.
Josh (01:20:50):
Yeah, I know you're not,
and I think it's hilarious like
I'll go to a full.
Like beautiful breakdown andyou're like I'm not watching
that bullshit and I know you'renot and that's okay, I'm still
Zach (01:20:59):
gonna fucking tell you and
you're gonna like it, that's
fine, because someone on heremight watch it someone might.
Yes, that's true.
Yeah, different strokes man wedo.
Josh (01:21:07):
We see out a lot of films
and movies, but there's certain
movies like you go into it.
Zach (01:21:11):
You go there's a, there's
a realm that you go into, that
you don't expect that I don't gointo like if I want the door,
I'd be like, come on, you'relike I'm gonna wait out here.
Josh (01:21:18):
I'm gonna be in the lobby.
Yeah, exactly, let me know whenyou're out, let me know.
Yeah, exactly, I'm gonna playon my phone.
Zach (01:21:22):
You'll be out in a minute
or two.
Yeah, that's, that's me.
Whoa, I don't know where,where's where would be in the
movie world or tv world,entertainment world?
What would be a realm that I gointo, that you don't
necessarily delve into?
Oh easy uh anything politicalyeah, okay, I I do like like
political thrillers and stuff um, I won't go.
Josh (01:21:41):
Well, that's, it's not
entirely.
Zach (01:21:43):
I'm talking about movies,
entertainment, not necessarily
aspects of anything I'm sayingprobably not, I don't know.
Josh (01:21:49):
I'd go with you.
Probably, I don't know, I don'tknow of a movies that you
dabble that I don't really dothe rom-com that much like I do
a lot of rom-coms or a lot ofperiod pieces um nicholas sparks
type there's not a lot ofromances, um's just straight up
romances.
Zach (01:22:03):
Um, I'll do some period
pieces.
I do like, I do like history,so but I you know I'm not doing
again, I'm not doing, I'm notwatching stuff that was made in
the forties, but I'll watchsomething made about the forties
.
Josh (01:22:15):
Maybe there's other than
that dude.
There's not a lot of gangsters.
I think I feel like youwouldn't go with me in certain
rooms you've seen the town,you've seen departed.
Zach (01:22:31):
I've seen this, so you
know you enjoy those movies.
Josh (01:22:34):
I don't think there's
these type stuff.
I don't think there's a realm.
I think I would go with youeverywhere.
I think there's something youwouldn't come with me, Maybe bit
um no, I I'm.
Zach (01:22:48):
I'm invested in trying to
find this answer.
Josh (01:22:49):
I'm gonna see if I can
find her a a tv slash movie
realm, for for a bit there itwas anime, but now you're into
it, I'm into anime yeah, youcan't, you know, I think my
probably my level of animeviewership is deeper than yours
currently probably right now,but I think I'm close, but I'm,
but you're not, but I think youwould go into some places
because, like you said, you sawghost stories, which is kind of
(01:23:10):
weird and wacky, yeah, so like Idabble in a broader spectrum
maybe I dabble in like if uh, isit ghibli or ghibli?
Zach (01:23:19):
no, I mean I.
I would say I've seen it all,but I'm saying like I've seen
more than you have.
But I think you would go intothis.
You would go into the samelanes that I have gone into yeah
, yeah, and there's some thatI've seen that you haven't
there's a lot you've seen that Ihaven't right, so but like I'm
not going to the watching thecasablanca lane, I mean I'm
going to watch that'll be me inthe 40s yeah, yeah, like I don't
(01:23:41):
want to go in that lane andthen also like campy horror
movies made in the 80s.
Josh (01:23:45):
I don't go into that lane.
I do that a lot.
Have you seen apothecarydiaries?
Zach (01:23:49):
No, but it's on my list
Okay.
It's pretty good.
It's good one.
Okay, it's not bad, there's nohigh action.
Josh (01:23:53):
It's not like soul
leveling or hell's paradise or
sometimes there's just good,good shit.
You start, devil may cry.
Zach (01:23:59):
No.
Josh (01:24:09):
I haven't been on, was
great.
It's not as good as castle.
Okay, then, like I figured it'sgood in its own right.
But castlevania to me is itsown yes, its own little niche.
Like it was done.
It was my first big exposure tolike I've seen gundam.
I've seen like that was myfirst on full anime series.
I've probably like sat andwatched through which I'm I'm.
Zach (01:24:22):
I'm happy that american uh
animation is finally starting
to like compete.
They're good like compete withJapanese animation.
They're getting there.
It's not the same.
Josh (01:24:33):
No, it's not.
Zach (01:24:33):
Japanese animation is so
much better, but there's a
distinct style to Japaneseanimation and the way the
characters are drawn, especiallylike the eyes and the mouth and
everything like that.
So I do like the way thedirection of the American
animation is finally fuckingcatching up and stop looking so
damn cartoony.
I don't know.
There's something that's a goodway to put it.
Josh (01:24:54):
It's getting better.
Zach (01:24:55):
It's growing up, it's
maturing, yeah, and so I want
them to keep going thatdirection, cause Castlevania was
a great start.
Knock, turn on, if you saw that.
Josh (01:25:02):
I did not.
I mean, I think it wasn't asgood but I've heard it's good
but it's still right, it's sogood.
Zach (01:25:07):
Uh, but not as good as the
, as the OG.
Josh (01:25:10):
I do.
I do my anime.
I like one to two seasons.
For some reason for me I like agood one season, yeah, or two
is fine If I follow along withit, like solo leveling did, and
and Kaiju.
Number eight was one season, uhJuj movie and then two um, but
(01:25:32):
like hell's paradise is one.
I like when it's just a onestrong.
It's like yeah, like um, I'veall.
Oh.
One of one of my friends saysthat uh, they didn't like the.
She didn't like our take on um,uh, what was?
The show has like tons ofepisodes we're like I can't get
on board with that.
Zach (01:25:43):
Oh, one piece, yeah, which
is I'm trying to get to it.
Josh (01:25:46):
Tell me one piece.
It's one of the greatest animes.
I've heard this too.
Zach (01:25:50):
I feel like there's so
many arcs.
Josh (01:25:52):
I said that you didn't
hate it.
Zach (01:25:54):
It was just a lot.
It's like right now.
I'm literally watching theepisodes where it's in 4 by 3
ratio.
You're committed.
I won't commit to that that's mybiggest problem with something
like that.
I actually want to get to thelater episodes, to where it's
better, and I've heard all aboutthis and I want to get to where
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it's current, like it's stillrunning, like I want to get to
the current new shit.
But for for me, I'm all aboutlike the world, building the
world, and like I don't likegoing into something not having,
not having the background thateverybody else has got on it and
they've seen all the episodes,yeah, they've seen all the
(01:26:34):
characters develop to that point.
You know what I'm saying.
So I can't start.
I don't know how people do it.
Some people do do it that will.
They'll skip entire, like seemultiple seasons.
You're a completionist, I'm acompletionist, I gotta go
through it, yeah, and I feellike it's like a rite of passage
to get to that.
So so far it's been kind of astruggle.
Um, initially it was fine andwhat helped actually what helped
(01:26:56):
my one piece um journey here,uh was the Netflix show.
Yeah, they adapted to liveaction, so it was cool and it
actually adapted the firstseason pretty first few seasons
and it actually adapted thefirst season pretty or first few
seasons actually, uh, prettywell, um so, um, uh.
That got me a little bit moreinto it.
So I'm excited to see whatseason two of the Netflix live
(01:27:17):
action is going to do, andthat'll keep me going.
I think I'm currently.
I'm not that far.
It's a thousand fuckingepisodes.
I'm 10% of the way there.
Josh (01:27:30):
I've gotten through 100
episodes.
Yeah, I, uh, I forgot I cameaway to bring this up and I
should have, if we have enoughtime.
Um, I finally went back and Ifinished 1923.
Is it 1832?
I finished it.
Um, I finished season two, okay, um, did you finish it?
Yeah, yeah, okay, I, I justfinished it, uh, last week.
Um, I'll give my.
We don't do a full episode on,but I'll give my take, I.
I like the show like casting.
(01:27:50):
I don't like all the sexualviolence.
Zach (01:27:53):
I think it gets yeah, it's
a little too much, it's
overplayed for me.
Josh (01:27:56):
So there's some certain
scenes that I I knew was
happening.
I kind of skipped ahead alittle bit because I like
there's.
You know, I didn't need anymore reason for me to hate a
character.
Zach (01:28:04):
It was.
Josh (01:28:04):
I didn't need to see
another character suffer even
more when they've been sufferingthe entire show.
So it doesn't bring anything.
Zach (01:28:13):
Tell my Alex yeah, like it
doesn't.
Yeah, that was just tortureporn.
At some point it's exactlyright.
Josh (01:28:16):
I'm like I don't.
This to me seems a bitdistasteful.
And then also the extremescenes with that asshole prick
guy with him, like having thesewomen, which at first I was like
, okay, but like cut scenetransition, I don't need to see
it happen, we can just use ourown mind to figure out.
Oh, like we need the coffee thethe teeth.
(01:28:37):
Okay, just cut scene, like I'llknow what's going on, I don't
need to see it, it's like youknow.
Zach (01:28:42):
You know what that
reminded me of those scenes with
with that guy?
that what's a rich prick withwhatever it reminded me of early
2000s hbo.
It's where they'd have thesegratuitous scenes just to show
titties because it was HBO.
Okay, exactly right.
Josh (01:28:55):
I didn't need.
That was my only negative thingabout that.
I didn't care for.
And also I went back andfinished finally part two of the
last season of Yellowstone andeverybody caught shit about it
or was upset about it.
I got to say I didn't hate it Ididn't love it.
I was glad it was over, but Iknow you have to end the show.
It had to end in a way thatmaybe not everybody agree with,
(01:29:17):
but it had to end yes like,there's some things I really
liked and some things I didn'tparticularly care for, but I
didn't hate it yes I don't think, having that last few episodes
that if you say they're shitty,if you hate them, I don't think
it makes the rest of the wholeshow.
Zach (01:29:31):
No it doesn't?
Josh (01:29:32):
Those first few seasons
are some of the best television
I've ever watched.
Zach (01:29:35):
Yes.
Josh (01:29:36):
Um, kevin Costner leaving
creative differences with Taylor
Sheridan is from what I heard.
Yep, I could totally understandit, yeah.
Zach (01:29:42):
Um.
Josh (01:29:42):
Taylor Sheridan is a
incredible writer.
He's made great things I reallylike.
I think he kind of rode himselfin a little too thick on part
two, the whole like Playboy.
Cowboy, I know you got a goodbod, dude, I don't even see you
shirt off for two fuckingepisodes.
Zach (01:29:57):
Even in past seasons that
he would put himself in, I was
like this dude is a giant prick.
He is a prick.
Josh (01:30:02):
And then I kind of like
how the character Colton Howes
plays Rip when he says why he'sfriends with him.
It kind of grounded thecharacter a bit more for me.
I was like alright, whatever, Ididn't think it was a terrible
ending.
Obviously I wish Kevin Costnerwould have stayed, but I'm glad
they ended when they did.
I didn't need any more.
Zach (01:30:21):
There's only so long we
can stretch out this land battle
.
You knew it was going to bekind of a crapshoot whenever
they killed the main characteroff screen, correct?
Yeah, so it's like okay, yeah,and I.
Josh (01:30:31):
But I will say I did not
hate it.
No, if you, if you're, ifyou're having any kind of
recourse for what, whatever,just go watch it, just finish it
, finish it out.
It's not hard, it's not, it'snot super long.
Zach (01:30:43):
Follow it through, but
that was to say to about 1923,
though I think it if they wouldhave stretched that out, maybe
that that particular season, totwo more seasons, they had three
out of it, yeah.
I think so I think it wouldhave probably been better.
Josh (01:30:58):
You think so I think so.
Zach (01:31:00):
Maybe because because it
was every episode with Alex's
journey to get back to Spencer.
Spencer wasn't even have thathard of a time.
Get back to to spencer.
Spencer even wasn't even havingthat hard of a time.
Every episode, every minute ofthat episode of the of that
season, she was just gettingfucked up.
It was at some point you'rejust like.
This is unrealistic, this wouldnot happen to one person.
Josh (01:31:20):
So funny.
You say that my dad and I werediscussing this about because he
watched.
They watched the show and hesaid the same thing.
It's like it just seems justnot needed and I was like, well,
they kind of depict it as likewas the world really this fucked
up?
Yeah.
Everywhere you travel, if you'rea woman or even a guy, it's
like stay here.
I'm like, well, it cannot havebeen.
I wasn't there, right, andmaybe, but it's everywhere she
(01:31:44):
went.
Yes, hide your money, hide this, hide your money, hide this,
stay away from here, don't gohere.
It's like was it really?
How does fucking anybody goanywhere?
Zach (01:31:52):
she got on the train and
then, of course, the train can't
because there's a snow drift.
Oh well, she found a solution.
This person, they're going tostay the night with this nice
couple.
Let's start the race they'regoing to drive them across.
They're going to drive there.
Oh well, they get to the gasstation.
The lady literally warned him,said there's no more gas
stations here you might not wantto go.
And they just said they juststraight ignored her yeah and
(01:32:14):
then drove and of course, that'swhat happened, like it's like
the odds of all those thingshappening to a single human
being are astronomical.
It's to where it becomes, ittakes you out of it.
Well, yeah, I think that itwould be the mood.
The show would have been betterserved if they, if those things
happened, but they stretchedthem out over a longer period
and the ending I was like areyou fucking serious?
And then she gets frostbite andshe has a premature baby by a
(01:32:37):
period to where that babywouldn't fucking survive in 1923
.
Josh (01:32:41):
And they're like we have
to chop off your hands and feet
and they got to chop off yourhands and feet.
Zach (01:32:44):
And then she's like no,
and he was just like my wife
died and then she just died andhe just left.
Josh (01:32:48):
I'm like I don't know it
was too much.
I like that actor who playsSpencer.
I don't know his name, but Ilike him.
Zach (01:32:55):
Yeah, Brandon.
Josh (01:32:59):
Skinner.
He's in talks for being thenext Batman.
Zach (01:33:02):
Yeah, and so you can tell
that's Bruce Wayne.
I think he has the chops.
I think he would get it.
I think he's got it.
Josh (01:33:08):
I agree, he's got the
physicality of it, the stature,
the stoicness to him, the voiceStoic, yes, and also there's a
charm to him, he's got apresence about him.
Zach (01:33:16):
Yeah, he can play.
I think he can also.
Here's the.
This may be a littlecontroversial, and I argue with
people Batman.
There's no argument there atall, because he actually played
Bruce Wayne well too, there's.
Josh (01:33:29):
No, I don't care what
anyone says, I will agree with
you on that hill every time, andwe're all Michael Keaton Batman
fans.
I love Michael Keaton's Batman.
I actually went back andwatched it a couple days ago.
My Batman as well.
Ben Affleck has played and Istill like Christian Bell.
For all you people who aregoing to get, upset.
But Ben Affleck to me was thetotal package.
Zach (01:33:49):
Yes.
Josh (01:33:50):
He played.
He was an incredible Bruce.
Now this he's a grizzled olderBatman.
Zach (01:33:55):
Yes.
Josh (01:33:55):
We haven't seen him as a
young Batman.
I think he played yes, this is20 year senior Batman.
Zach (01:33:59):
That's true, the Christian
Bale movies were better,
obviously, just a character.
I think Ben Affleck played thebetter Batman.
Bruce Wayne slash Batman.
I agree.
Josh (01:34:11):
Especially the physicality
, the whole thing is dope.
I have my own good and bad ofthe Christopher Nolan Batman, I
think.
Christian Bale as it went on, Ihated his suit and the way it
restricted his breathing.
I fucking hated that.
That part I could not as far asthe best screen portrayed
villains bar none.
(01:34:33):
Yes, joker and Bane are two ofthe greatest villains, even Ra's
al Ghul.
Zach (01:34:37):
Fucking great Liam Neeson
yeah that was good when I went
to Lexington this past weekendand you know our pre-game before
we went out we watched BatmanBegins.
Josh (01:34:49):
It's a great movie.
Zach (01:34:51):
And then, of course, we
got fucked up and then stayed
out until 4 am and it was agreat time.
Josh (01:34:53):
Go All this kind of stuff.
Zach (01:34:55):
So what did we do as our
little hangover cure when we
woke up the next morning wascontinue to watch Batman Begins,
finished it and startedwatching Dark Knight before we
went to brunch.
They're.
Josh (01:35:05):
I don't know, man Like I,
that's one of my favorites to go
back to Cause I'll just get.
Like there's so many streaminghere Recently there hasn't been
a lot of good new stuff, so I'lljust go back in the fields and
pull like old trilogies or oldone-off films that are good, but
those Batman movies are alwayslingering right there.
I'm like I'll get to you soonbecause those, yeah, those, some
of like we saw those intheaters, theaters oh yeah you
(01:35:25):
and I saw all three of them.
Uh, it's very good this news.
Have you seen all the hypearound the sinners movie?
We need to go see it.
Zach (01:35:33):
The michael b jordan movie
yeah, it's a dude, it is like
some people say it's the set inthe 40s, 50s, something like
that.
It's a vampire movie, vampiremovie.
Josh (01:35:41):
But they say it's from
what and I've heard it from
audience scores like 97.
They people are saying it's thebest movie at 25 so far Like.
Zach (01:35:50):
I've heard and I like
Michael B Jordan has a hot girl
and Haley Steinfeld who I I andthey say her character is done
well.
Josh (01:35:57):
So I think we should go
see it.
Zach (01:35:58):
That may be our big need
to go there, Cause I I'm not
ashamed.
Josh (01:36:08):
I'm not ashamed to admit
that.
Up a little bit, I bought thatuh sydney sweeney movie.
I bought it, yeah, yeah, justso I could see her wait.
Which one the uh with her andglenn powell, what's um?
Oh um I bought it uh, somethingabout no, let me look it up.
I don't know why we always tryto guess I got a, got a phone
right here, Because all thosemovies are the fucking same
(01:36:29):
title basically.
Zach (01:36:30):
Oh, it's a rom-com, but
it's not great.
It's a compilation of randomconsonants and vowels.
Sidney Sweeney.
There are always titles thatpeople just they're just phrases
people say in normal public.
Josh (01:36:43):
She's only 5'3".
Zach (01:36:44):
What the?
Josh (01:36:45):
fuck A little shorty.
Anyone but you, anyone but you,anyone but you.
So I like Glenn Powell a lot aswell, but let's be honest, I
bought that because I had heardthat there was like scenes with
her and I think she has one ofthe greatest bodies.
But I bought it just so I couldsee her, and then a week later
it came to streaming.
Zach (01:37:00):
I didn't buy it.
But yeah, I didn't buy it.
But.
I watched the Voyeurs becausethere's a scene.
Josh (01:37:06):
I've seen that scene.
Actually, when you called me, Ilooked that scene up and I hung
the phone up.
Zach (01:37:09):
It's the most gratuitous
scene.
Josh (01:37:11):
It's a great one for sure,
yeah, so I've done the same
thing.
Zach (01:37:18):
If there's something I
just can't wait to see it.
Speaking of gratuitous scenes,apparently I used to watch stuff
like this when I was in theaterin high school and even going
into college.
I did some theater stuff incollege.
Um, I you know I was in at thetime because I was in that world
.
I was into the more artsy filmyeah stuff, like I used to watch
ifc, like all the time I watchall that shit, good stuff, yeah,
(01:37:41):
sometimes I guess what I mean,but these are things.
These are, you know, indie filmsyeah independent film company
and I'll.
I'll watch an indie from timeto time, but you know, sometimes
I think a lot of it these daysare just these indie movies.
They're slow, they're boring,they're uh, they're, they got
very woke, a lot of them veryquick and they're on based on
concepts that are just, it's asmall niche, yeah.
(01:38:05):
And then it seems like everyfucking indie film it was some
fucking non-binary pansexualmidget.
It just became too much.
It's just like okay.
And also the other thing isthat they were just going way
too hard in the paint on thesexual stuff where it was like
borderline porn.
Josh (01:38:21):
And I was just like you
need not answer it Because we
need to.
There's porn and there's goodfilms.
Yes, if I'm in the point nowand I'm sure you might, you're
probably there as well Likewhere I don't mind the scene
setting up for, like the let'ssay, the couple in the same,
like the draw the shades, theshirts come off and then it
transitions out or you get afade out.
I don't need to see it actuallyhappen.
(01:38:42):
Yeah Well, I don't really needthose scenes anymore.
Like I don't, I don't, it's justnot.
If it's not, if it's importantto the story, it's sure Like
they make love, whatever, okayGoes.
On.
The next morning they wake up.
Week, I can assume whathappened.
I don't have to see it.
I don't have to see.
That doesn't make or break themovie for me, yeah.
Zach (01:39:00):
Like and a lot of these
movies, these indie movies that
are very gratuitous sexually.
Back in the IFC days they werenot A-list actors doing these
things, because those A-listactors had a reputation to
protect, they were box officedraws.
They couldn't be seen doing afucking gangbang in a fucking
indie film or whatever.
(01:39:21):
That's definitely not the caseanymore.
A-listers will straight up dosome wild shit.
Case in point a lot of theseindie films are becoming a
little bit more.
They're like they're Oscar bait.
Now here's I don't know if Ican't remember thinking of the
director, but there was a moviecalled Poor Things with Emma
Stone.
It definitely an indie film.
(01:39:42):
Weird has Willem Dafoe in it.
It's Margaret Qualley.
Josh (01:39:46):
I started it and couldn't
get into it.
At Margaret Qualley, I startedit and couldn't get into it.
Zach (01:39:50):
That's when they like, she
like, basically like
Frankenstein.
Yeah, it's like a Frankensteintype thing, like a sexual
deviant for a while.
Josh (01:39:55):
I didn't finish it.
Yeah, it got an.
Zach (01:39:57):
Academy Award, didn't it?
Yeah, I think so.
Maybe it won some or at leastit was nominated.
Well, there was another moviethat I of kindness, and it has
Emma Stone in it and MargaretQualley in it and, uh, also
Jesse Plemons, yorgos Latimiosyeah, that guy.
Well, there's a scene in, uh,and it's real quick, it's a
flash you would blink and you'dmiss it.
(01:40:17):
But it's there where MargaretQualley and Emma Stone are
straighting or straight.
They're doggy style, justgetting pounded by two other
dudes Really Like, and you seeit, oh, man.
Like not penetration, obviouslyit's implied I know, Of course,
but it's like softcore porn,like straight up and like it's
(01:40:41):
Emma Stone and Margaret Qualleythat's what I'm saying Like
A-listers doing some crazy.
There was another movie thatwas not implied.
You actually saw full-onpenetration.
Apparently it was like bodydoubles and stuff, but it had
Stellan Skarsgård, the father ofall the Skarsgårds.
You're talking Nymphomaniac.
Josh (01:40:59):
Nymphomaniac part one and
two that is a Straight porn.
That is a weird movie Weirdmovie.
Shia LaBeouf's in that movie,shia.
Zach (01:41:06):
LaBeouf weird movie the
whole.
He's Shia LaBeouf.
Now there's a.
There's a scene where he's likehe's hooking up with this other
, this blonde chick, and itlooks like you see Shia
LaBeouf's dick.
Yeah, penetrating this chick.
Apparently that was a bodydouble.
Josh (01:41:17):
That wasn't actually him.
She blows that dude on thetrain.
Zach (01:41:20):
Blows the dude on the
train and they show scene where
she gets straight up dp'd by twofucking like african dudes.
That actually happened.
Josh (01:41:34):
it's that actress actually
did do that.
It's a weird.
It's not a good movie.
It's not.
Zach (01:41:36):
It's not a good movie.
Uh, and this why you needed twoparts to tell that fucking
story.
Josh (01:41:42):
I don't know well, I mean,
everybody has their own like
sexual curiosity, and sometimesyour curiosity, will you want to
see some stuff or just assume,or whatever, and there's a
there's a sexiness to the wholething.
Zach (01:41:53):
But that actress that
basically was getting fucking
double teamed.
Josh (01:41:57):
She's rough looking.
Zach (01:42:00):
She was in.
She was in Independence.
Josh (01:42:03):
Day Resurgence, resurgence
.
Oh she was.
I forgot about that.
She was a little scientistchick.
Yeah it Resurgence, resurgence.
Oh she was.
I forgot about that.
She was a little scientistchick.
Yeah, it's not a good movie.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
About the Emma Stone, there'sthat new movie with Gwyneth
Paltrow and Timothee Chalamet.
Zach (01:42:26):
There's apparently a film,
timothee Chalamet.
Josh (01:42:28):
Chalamet.
Apparently there's a film withthem where she had an issue with
I guess that now they havethese intimate intimacy
coordinators on set to help withthat stuff and she was just
like we're just like I don'tneed all this shit, like let's
just do the damn thing like weused to back in the day just
bang, yeah, just bang.
And there's a new movie too,with nicole kidman.
That's really risque as wellwhere she's yeah, and it's.
You know, it's those I don'tknow, I mean you, you can't.
Zach (01:42:52):
You know that, even ones
where they're just doing you
know it's, it's not, it'sdefinitely not hardcore, it's
not even softcore, it's just andyou know a run-of-the-mill sex
scene, right, yeah, you can'ttell me that some of the hottest
people on the planet areimitating a sex scene, and off
camera, and their trailers arenot banging.
Josh (01:43:13):
Well, it's like Samuel L
Jackson interview.
He was like you just had totell people like, sorry, if I
don't get hard, or if I do gethard, you got to deal with it
Sorry.
Right.
Like they.
I mean there's obviously likeit's.
Yeah, are you kidding me?
Yeah, I know I would be bonedup the entire time.
It would suck it would be soawkward, or it would be so
awkward.
Zach (01:43:30):
Yes, or it would probably
be super awkward, it's Well,
what's the one way to get theawkwardness out?
Well, that's what a lot of.
Josh (01:43:38):
It's funny you say that I
just saw a little fun fact where
Leonardo DiCaprio and KateWinslet on the set of Titanic
that set was coming up with ascene where she has to lay naked
.
Well, she just flashed him onscene to break the ice and he
was just like it did help.
Zach (01:43:54):
Yeah, yeah, and it would.
Josh (01:43:55):
You'd have Eva Green did
that.
Zach (01:43:56):
Yes, she walked out in
front of the whole cast and crew
with a top off.
She was like everybody just getused she's French.
Yeah, she's different.
She don't give a fuck, which Iappreciate, I do too, she's a
beautiful lady.
But you know that there's gotto be.
There's definitely cases ofhigh percent.
Josh (01:44:14):
Well, I mean that's also
what's and it's.
Alan Richardson brought that upin a podcast that I've watched
with him where, you know, whenhe got his fame going through
Hollywood, he's talking aboutnavigating because he deals with
some anxiety and some otherthings too that he's coped with.
But he's like you know, you getinto a spot that being in this,
in this spot, like being aroundactresses, like attractive
(01:44:34):
women you start questioning yourown decisions in life, like
should I be married?
Like should I hook up with this?
Like he said, it's a becauseyou're close.
Same thing with justintimberlake had an issue with a
cast member.
Like you, you're that intimatewith a cast member and you spend
that much time it affects yourbrain chemistry.
It fucks with you.
It would You'd not be human ifit didn't.
Zach (01:44:56):
Right, because a physical
thing is happening to you.
You're going to have aphysiological response.
Josh (01:45:01):
It's going to affect the
way you think they do on-screen
chemistry tests for a reason100% To sell it.
Zach (01:45:09):
And you know that a lot of
these actors what they'll do is
they'll um actresses andactresses.
The actors and actresses, theywill when they're doing the prep
before they actually shoot thescene, even if it's just like a
kissing scene.
Right, that's they're, they'reout.
If I would, if I was, if I wasabout to shoot a pivotal scene
like that, I would, at least youknow, like all right, let's
like try this out before weactually go on screen, in the
(01:45:31):
trailer or whatever it's just totake the edge.
But like all right now, we'vealready done it.
Now we don't have to be allnervous and shit on screen I'm
sure they do.
Josh (01:45:37):
You know, there's probably
a lot of shit that goes on like
that's why that to me, that'swhy there's certain couples, and
stuff too, that won't like.
Uh, chris hemsworth won't kiss,yeah right, anybody else.
There's also that one actorhe's been in a bunch of stuff.
I forget his name.
He's a blonde haired guy.
He was an asshole inYellowstone.
Zach (01:45:53):
He was in Yellowstone.
Josh (01:45:54):
He won't do any scenes.
Zach (01:45:56):
Yeah, except for he
refuses.
So I think I can't remember.
I know exactly what you'retalking about.
Josh (01:46:13):
You don't know, I back
shot, or yeah, he said he
refuses and I kind of don'tblame him, like because it's
you're there, he's not.
He's like I'm not opening thatdoor, yeah, I'm just not or you
could be like adam sandler.
Zach (01:46:24):
In every movie, you, you
cast your hottest, fucking, you
can't, but you never cameo.
Josh (01:46:28):
You notice, but you cast
the hottest fucking woman.
I just watch Grown Ups at thehouse.
I feel like every time we saysomething, I just watch that.
I've watched Grown Ups recentlyand I was watching Adam Sandler
because he always casts themost beautiful women and his
wife is always on set as anothercharacter's wife.
Well, if you watch him withthese women, he never does
anything.
That's crazy.
(01:46:48):
He usually side kisses thewoman.
Zach (01:46:51):
He's just like a pet.
He never does full make-out, henever does a sex scene.
It's a hold hand.
Josh (01:46:56):
It's a kiss on the cheek.
I'm like you know what.
It's kind of funny because Icould imagine my wife would be
like really that's who you'regoing to cast to play exactly.
Zach (01:47:07):
You're right.
Josh (01:47:08):
I kind of get it because
he's a big family guy, so I
think it's hilarious in thataspect because his wife is
beautiful too.
Yeah yeah, and it's funny yousay that because I just recently
seen that where of course, hecasts Selma Hyde.
It's like absolute smoke show.
Is that goofball's wife?
And in the second movie healways makes it a point to like
he's like faders always get hotwomen at the end.
Zach (01:47:28):
Yeah, and then one movie
had had brooklyn decker and and,
uh, jennifer aniston, exact,yeah oh, uh, yes, that's right.
Josh (01:47:35):
Yep, and then go with it,
and then jessica beal jessica
beal.
Oh good lord, one of the bestscenes at that that by far may
be one of the greatest bodies toever reveal itself on that big
screen that was something Ithought we could do, a segment.
Zach (01:47:49):
Maybe we'll make a note of
this for next time, cause we
didn't prep for it, but um is uhkind of is uh, we could do, we
could do a two, we could do twoparter front front and back uh,
each year we can start.
Let's say, just start 1990.
I'll give you that.
Okay, start from 1990 to today,2025.
Thank you, the tits of the year, ass of the year, oh man.
Josh (01:48:13):
For real Okay.
Zach (01:48:16):
Like what was the?
Josh (01:48:17):
Because you know so we had
to pick, that's a lot of ass
and titties, man, from now untilthen, let's go on some homework
.
Zach (01:48:22):
We're going to do some
research here.
Okay, all right, but there'sgot to be a year to where that
was the body.
Josh (01:48:29):
Okay, that year.
Zach (01:48:31):
All right, so 1990.
So you're talking about 1990.
Josh (01:48:34):
We'll just start there,
right 1990.
Zach (01:48:35):
Ass and titties, ass and
titties Best portrayed, yes,
best portrayed on screen.
All right, cleavage Damn or ass.
Josh (01:48:41):
Well, hold on now.
Zach (01:48:42):
Or ass, we'll do an ass.
Josh (01:48:50):
Because Maybe 93 wasn't a
good year.
It might not have been a goodyear.
Zach (01:48:52):
All right, I got it.
That's going to be tough dude, Ithink we can do it, I can
handle it I can handle it.
I think we can do it.
I'll do the homework.
I think we can do it.
I can make that work.
Josh (01:49:03):
I can think of something
more recently on top of my head.
Zach (01:49:05):
But I wanted to go back to
the 90s just because there was
probably some stuff that was youknow when we were younger.
We can explore some new stuffmaybe.
Josh (01:49:12):
I just watched Splash.
Yeah, she had a great ass Rightshe runs down the beach naked
and he was like, uh, can youhelp me?
Right, I forgot Her ass wasthat it?
Was pretty cute.
Zach (01:49:24):
It was okay the scene
depicting a woman's bare behind
or breasts that defined thatyear where everybody was talking
about it.
Josh (01:49:36):
I was going to throw one
out.
I'm not going to throw it,that's the rule.
I have one ready to throw atyou.
Zach (01:49:39):
Actually, we may actually
have to amend that for some of
the later years.
These days they're showing alot more dick on screen.
You want to do best dick.
I watched season three of WhiteLotus.
Josh (01:49:51):
I cannot get into that
fucking show.
Zach (01:49:53):
That show is crazy.
Josh (01:49:54):
My mom says the latest
season is the best one.
Zach (01:49:56):
No, it's terrible.
It's not the best one.
Josh (01:49:58):
She said it's just as far
as twist turns crazy.
Zach (01:50:00):
Yeah, okay.
Josh (01:50:01):
But I tried to get into
season one and I got four.
Zach (01:50:05):
Everybody saw Patrick
Schwarzenegger I heard it's big.
Arnold Schwarzenegger's son sawhis cock.
So great.
Josh (01:50:13):
So it seems to be a thing
now, is it?
Zach (01:50:14):
big.
Josh (01:50:15):
I mean yeah, it's fine,
it's a normal size wiener you
always remember the first timeyou see a huge dick on somebody?
Zach (01:50:26):
Yeah, like in person, yeah
Like you were in person, like
in a locker room or something.
Yeah, yeah, like in person, yeah, like you were in person, like
in a locker room or something.
Yeah.
Josh (01:50:32):
Yeah, it's wild and it's
never who you expect.
Zach (01:50:43):
I'll tell you.
What's more shocking iswhenever you see like a micro
penis for the first time, it'slike oh fuck, because I mean
everyone's seen porn.
Josh (01:50:47):
So you've seen what a
giant weiner looks like.
I've seen myself like out ofthe cold pool.
Zach (01:50:49):
Yeah, everyone's seen porn
, so you've seen what a giant
wiener looks like.
I've seen myself out of thecold pool, yeah, and also you
look down and it's like whatever, but when you see one, that's
actually like oh fuck, yeah,I've seen.
Josh (01:50:57):
Yeah, it's on the spectrum
.
It's either huge or tiny.
Both of those freak me out.
It's like holy shit when.
Zach (01:51:01):
I saw it, it was Navy,
obviously.
Josh (01:51:04):
Locker room at the gym.
Zach (01:51:06):
Shired with a bunch of 40
dudes at one time it was a dude
that was in basic and he was onhis way to go to Bud's.
So he's going to be a Navy SEALwith a tiny wiener.
Josh (01:51:17):
Good luck to you, sir.
He's probably a total badassnow with a locker, probably.
Zach (01:51:21):
And he was also short,
really short.
Short king 5'3" Tiny penis, sohe had little man syndrome and
little penis syndrome.
Josh (01:51:28):
And my fucker was bowed up
like a pit bull.
He probably yeah, 100%.
He probably was like a killerman as soon as he got it he's
out there fucking just murderingterrorists right now, as soon
as he got that trident, thatdick grew.
You know what I did 100%.
That's what it was.
100%, cool man.
Zach (01:51:44):
I want to end it on that.
We're creeping up on two hours.
Woo, that's okay, we took alittle break.
Josh (01:51:50):
We'll be back.
We had a lot of real life stuffcome up.
Zach (01:51:52):
Yeah, I had sickness and I
was out of town and just a lot
of this kind of stuff.
I you know everybody can tell Ican still kind of have
allergies.
You're just fucking killing me,paul, and counts Hi.
Josh (01:52:09):
Yeah, she wants to.
So she said just let her know,okay, so we can do that.
And then Amber also has somestuff she wants to talk about.
Okay, because she was talkingabout she loves our episode.
Zach (01:52:18):
She said sometimes she'll
actually talk to us while we're
on the show, people tell me allthe time it's hilarious to come
up with.
Josh (01:52:31):
Uh, I couldn't get out to
panga, I couldn't get it out, or
I think was it to panga orsomebody somebody else, but he
was just like yelling at theyeah, at his phone, um, but she
has some analytic stuff shewants to go over with us.
If they she we were talkingabout because her podcast she
said an episode that was abouthot girl privilege is real.
She jumped on our bandwagonbecause she's like, it's so true
yeah, but she wanted to sharesome stuff with us.
How crazy the numbers are fromher own post.
Just how wild the numbers rangeif you don't show skin or if
(01:52:55):
you do like.
Just how crazy, like theanalytics are for her.
That's 100% a thing it is, andshe showed me that one time on a
video.
Like she it's, I mean, it'sastronomical.
So that's the reason we got toget a camera in here and take
your fucking shirt off.
Yeah, but our numbers might godown.
They might go down for me.
They might come and be like notwhat I thought.
Zach (01:53:16):
Or he's t-shirt hot, or
we'll get more.
If I take my shirt off, it'slike looking at, you know, like
animals in the zoo, or just.
Josh (01:53:22):
I mean, it worked for Bert
Kreischer.
We'll just take them while I'mcoming.
Yeah, exactly, you just want tochange the lighting.
I don't want to white light, Iwant to look at the grotesquerie
that is me.
We'll need to get some shadowsand some makeup.
No, we're not doing all that.
Zach (01:53:33):
Yeah.
Josh (01:53:41):
We'll want to powder my
belly.
I really just want to look goodin a t-shirt.
That's what?
Yeah, but yeah she and get thatgoing.
But the teacher argument, Idefinitely want to.
I want to listen to that.
Zach (01:53:48):
I'm going to have to bring
it.
I see it, here's my biggest.
Just don't get on a tear, I'mnot going to get a tear on it,
but here's what you're going topreface this to a little teaser.
Is you know?
People want to throw all thesestats and all this anecdote.
You know?
Whatever from a teacher?
Yeah, that's me.
Josh (01:54:07):
I think that's what it is.
I don't think it's so much likeI'm going to cut your throat
you cut mine, let's bleedtogether.
I think it's more or less likehere's a real-world perspective
on it.
Here's yours Well.
Zach (01:54:19):
I think people want to.
Every time I have this argumentabout teachers, they're not
having the argument that I'mtrying to have.
Well, maybe you need to makesure that usually just it
devolves into they're talkingabout how, how hard teachers
have it.
Yeah, I, I don't deny that.
That's not my argument at allyeah I've you know what I'm
saying yeah I, yes, I wouldn'twant to fucking do that job.
(01:54:43):
No, thank you, I think I don't.
It's not my bad, everybody, soI get it.
It sucks.
There's aspects of it sucks.
That's never been my argument.
My argument is that you're notspecial.
Josh (01:54:52):
Right, and I think it'd be
just neat to hear the
conversation, because I don'tknow a lot about the aspects of
it too.
I mean, I don't know, but I'mthe same about you are too.
I'm like I respect and I don'twant to be a teacher.
I went into school wanting tobe a teacher and I backed out.
So yeah, I think it'll be fun.
Zach (01:55:08):
Yeah, I even had that
thought when I was in, when I
was in college.
I was like, oh, maybe I could.
I could do like teach history,cause I like history.
Josh (01:55:13):
So uh, I just, I just let
her know like I'll let you know,
ahead of time the time and adate and we'll have her.
She can come.
She's usually ready anytime.
So uh, yeah, cause I don't.
I told him I don't really havethis setup that's conducive to
four people in a room right now.
Like mics and all that stuff,if it, eventually, if it, if we
(01:55:37):
had people more prone to comingin, but phone calls, I think
will be cool.
It'd be a good way to test thattoo followers on the show.
Zach (01:55:49):
We've done phone calls
before we actually had.
Josh (01:55:50):
Yeah, we did, yeah, we.
Uh, I got it.
We got a new follower the otherday from another podcast.
Um, that she's booked up forthe next few months, but I
invited her to come onto theshow as well and talk movies
with us okay, she does horrormovies okay old, new, all that
kind of stuff I'll just sit inthe background just and throw
fucking bars.
So we can go, so she's cool.
I think that'll be fun to do alittle a crossover with just
(01:56:10):
she's just sitting in the chair.
I'll just sit over there andthen I found another podcast
that they do films as well, butthey like pull old films and
like kind of just review them onscreen together okay and kind
of like talk shit and howterrible they were in real time
while they're running yeah,they'll have a movie on and then
okay right down scenes and,like they just did, 13th warrior
the other day.
Okay, they'll do like, don'tpull old movies like willow,
(01:56:31):
13th war, like and be like lookat this stupid shit.
Or look how bad-ass this looksKnights of virtue.
Yeah, it gets stuff like that.
It's, it's cool.
Um, I've, I've shown interest.
There's a too.
So yeah, like we got some,there's some room for some, some
growth there okay, well, youknow, uh, whatever, anytime yeah
, well, I'll get the the withthe.
(01:56:55):
Uh, stephanie, I'll get thatworked out with a time and date,
so maybe next weekend we can dothat.
There's no holidays nextweekend or tomorrow's easter, so
but, yeah, well, in that, yeah,happy easter everybody.
And then, um, like, follow,share.
Um, I thought about doing, uh,some merch again.
Um, maybe this summer.
Yeah, I thought we're gettingsome new hats.
(01:57:15):
Move like some speedos.
Just something you might do.
I still got the business cardsthat we I still give out and
stuff with the qr codes andstuff.
But, um, I've still got a fewhoodies at the house and stuff
too.
But if we get our patreon fire,like if anyone subscribes to
the patreon again I may send outsome merch to you like a
special gift, um, which you cando on our site also.
If you can join and subscribe,there's three, five, ten, eleven
(01:57:37):
dollars a month.
Any little bit helps.
We just put it back into theshow, so, or it helps cover cost
for editing and everything likethat too.
So, whatever you can do, that'dbe helpful as well.
If you're listening, yeah, manyeah, cool thanks peace.