#76 - Dr Doom's a Trick, Silver Surfer's a Chick, and Kanye Likes Dick - The Infinite Weekend Podcast

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Zach (00:01):
Hey everybody, welcome to the Infinite Weekend Podcast,
episode 76, zach and Josh.
What's up?
So the news?
Have you heard one of theweirdest things that's going on
right now?

Josh (00:18):
Nope, I've been out of the news for a while, kanye.

Zach (00:20):
West is crazy.
I did know that, right, he's a.
You know he like thinks Hitleris cool and he wears like
blacked out mask and he princes.
You know parades is like nowex-wife around naked and all
this kind of weird stuff.

Josh (00:31):
I did see the picture where he brought her to some
awards and she was naked.
She had a nice body, but it was.
But I'm not surprised by hisbehavior.

Zach (00:38):
Well, apparently that he like blew his cousin once when
he was 14.
14?
Yeah, so he knew what he wasdoing.
Incest.
It's minor yeah.

Josh (00:52):
Wow, well, didn't, didn't, jeff?
Was it Jeffrey Starr that justcame forward and said that they
were a thing?

Zach (00:58):
Yeah, that's where.
That's where like, oh okay,Jeffrey Starr was like, came out
, was like he's like, I guess,was like I'm not gonna hide it
anymore, or fuck it.
It was like fuck it, ithappened, the rumors are true,
they, they banged yeah,apparently and then Kanye West
like ups the ante and is like,yeah, well, I blew my cousin
when I was 14.

Josh (01:17):
What if Jeffree Star was probably like damn man alright.
I didn't know that when we werehooking up, I could see Kanye
being like your turn.
Everybody knows the wild shit Ido.
Jeffree Star is an interestingcharacter.
I watched him in someinterviews.
That's an odd cat.
Apparently he hooks up with alot of celeb dudes, basketball
players.

(01:37):
I don't know man.
It must be just an itch thatthey want scratched.
I don't know man.

Zach (01:43):
I guess whenever you're like a super famous person,
you've banged everything that'smoved.
Where's that?

Josh (01:52):
I feel like especially in the Hollywood the post moves a
bit.

Zach (01:56):
I feel, like, especially in the Hollywood ecosystem,
you're eventually going to bangsome dudes.

Josh (02:03):
It's just like you probably start with, like you
know, feminine a ditty yeah, I'msaying chicks with dicks and
shit, like yeah, like when doesit?

Zach (02:10):
and then you, then, you, then, you follow along getting
manhandled by some dudes I don'tknow jeffrey star's like, he's
like a farmer and like gunperson.

Josh (02:18):
But likes it all to be kind of conservative develops
his own make, as that's a wilddude man, but fucks dudes, but
fucks dudes yeah this kind ofyou know does the makeup and the
nails too.

Zach (02:29):
Oh yeah, I think he's mentioned before.

Josh (02:30):
He's just like he's probably that dude from.

Zach (02:32):
He's like the prince of dorne yeah, this pleases me,
this, this, this brings mepleasure, and this brings me
pleasure, that's gross yeah, itwas weird, but it's a hell of a
sword, a hell of a bow.
Staffman, yeah I know, so know.
I don't think there's anycoming back for Kanye.
No.
I think, he's like leaning intoit.

(02:52):
Now I think he's just like youknow what?
Any thought that pops in hishead he's like and he probably
makes a bunch of shit up too,but he's like, now that guy,
that's just the crazy conspiracytheory type dude.

Josh (03:05):
They all need help.
He's just straight up.
They all need help.
Man, a hundred percent.
It was a while there when hewas.
He was all right Like he was.
Don't get me wrong.
Some of his older music I stillhave on my playlist for the gym
.
He's got some bad ass songs.
Oh yeah.
But there was a stint there whenhe was kind of like coming out
of that and you're like allright, I can get on board with
some of that shit, whatever.
And then like they just I don'tknow man, oh, his music's

(03:27):
awesome especially his earlyshit.

Zach (03:30):
I don't know.
I don't know when he went,probably when he married
Kardashian.
Kim Kardashian is when he wentoff the fucking rails and then
she was somehow you know, withthe family.

Josh (03:47):
You know having kids and being married kept him somewhat
sane.

Zach (03:48):
Yeah, and then the divorce happened and then he went
fucking.

Josh (03:49):
He's like I'm crazy, yeah.
Yeah, there were stages.
We're seeing his real, the realperson he is, yeah I think so.

Zach (03:52):
Yeah, I mean he's just by.
I mean it's clear he's bipolar,like whenever he was doing well
, he was probably depressed asshit, right, and then, uh, but
he was working and doing hismusic, everything, and then he
goes manic, yeah, and then he's,that's working and doing his
music and everything.
And then he goes manic, yeah,and then he's, that's where he
loses his shit, and he wears allblacked out fucking clothing
and talks about Hitler Like okay.

Josh (04:10):
Yeah, but Hollywood dress is really weird.
Anyway.
Have you seen the way JustinBieber dresses?

Zach (04:15):
Looks like an idiot.
I don't understand.
Like I get that again.
Hollywood fucked him up too.
Yeah, they did.
Clearly did he fucked him yeah,and obviously that's what's
happened, yeah and uh.
You know he was like probablypassed around and he was also
given all sorts of pleasures.
You know, I'm saying like Iguarantee that the hollywood
fucked him up, the whole diddything fucked him up.

(04:36):
So I kind of gave him a pass onthat.
But it's like also, you don'tlike if you just wallow in this
like ugliness, like that can'tbe good for your mental health.
Like, dress nice, it's not.
Like dress normal, like if youdress gross and ugly and just
like a fucking bum, then it'sgoing to affect your mood.

Josh (04:55):
It does.
Well, he's married to I don'tknow.

Zach (04:57):
So you know like a model.

Josh (04:59):
So I don't know, it's very .

Zach (05:05):
I don't know.
I used to want to meet him.
I don't really want to anymore.
Neither one of them.
No, he looks like he stealscatalytic converters now.

Josh (05:11):
Yeah, it washes inside windows.
Yeah, right.

Zach (05:15):
Yeah, exactly, very familiar with Narcan.

Josh (05:20):
But no, I didn't know any of this was going on.
Yeah, I just knew the JeffreeStar thing, but I didn't know
about the other shit blowing a14-year-old cousin or some shit.
I didn't know that.

Zach (05:28):
Well, I guess they were both underage.
It wasn't like last week.

Josh (05:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's fine, I got you.
That would not be good for hiscareer, but you know what?

Zach (05:37):
I mean, Like, how old is Kanye?
It's got to be close to 50.
It's got to be in his 40s,right, Look, mid 40s for sure.
But like you go, you know 30years, 30 to 40 years, like 47.

Josh (05:55):
There you go.
Too fucking old to be sharingthat kind of news.
That's what I'm saying.

Zach (05:58):
You go 30 something years and you don't like tell nobody
that you blew your cousin onetime.
I mean it's like the women andthen all of a sudden you just
like fuck it Twitter and youjust tell everybody yeah.

Josh (06:08):
It's like I can't imagine.
It's like these women comingforward Like that, like he raped
me and it's been like 40 years.
It's like and then all thewomen come forward, Then that
one Kobe.

Zach (06:19):
Bryant, pretty much everybody, whether it's, I mean,
sometimes it's true, sometimesit's not, it's just who the fuck
knows?
There's no way to know.

Josh (06:26):
I love that whole.
Thing.

Zach (06:27):
Basically, I've learned that being famous sucks.

Josh (06:30):
Don't do it I think you have to do it right.
There's a wrong and right way.
That's true.
Killian Murphy does it right.

Zach (06:38):
Yeah.

Josh (06:46):
I mean detached.

Zach (06:46):
He's famous but reluctantly like not by choice,
you can go where he lives andcatch him at like a local pub.

Josh (06:48):
That's what I'm saying.
Everything's very private.

Zach (06:50):
It's cool.
He just has to get dragged intothe fan club.
He just likes to act.

Josh (06:54):
I don't want any part of it.
Have you seen that recentpodcast that Theo Vaughn did
with Ben Affleck?
No, this past week Ben Affleckcame on and did a podcast.
It's good and I like how?
Because theo vaughn brought upwhy he always looks like.
It's like when they getpictures of him they show he
always looks like he's about tokill himself.
He's like yeah he's like butimagine someone always getting a

(07:15):
picture of you when you'refucking mad, or like they catch
you at the worst time.
He's like I'm standing outsidetrying to relax, or I got my
kids with me, and this one'slike hey, ben, why you look so
sad?
And he's like because you won'tfucking leave me alone.
Yeah, he's like so.
Imagine every time they pissyou off, they get a picture of
it.
Yeah, but he is also likedoesn't like hollywood, but

(07:35):
loves still loves to produce andact.

Zach (07:37):
He just doesn't want to be a part of it.
He likes the industry.
He doesn't like yeah, hedoesn't want bullshit anything
else with it.

Josh (07:41):
He's a cool guy man.

Zach (07:42):
The interview's good, I like Ben Affleck.
I do too.
I think I like him better thanMatt Damon.
I think Matt Damon's kind offake.

Josh (07:50):
I don't know if it's.
I don't know if it's fake, Idon't, I don't know, I still.
I mean he's a great actor, butI don't know what it is.
It's he doesn't well he does.

Zach (08:03):
There's every time I see an interview.
He also is one of the thoseactors that feels like they need
to get into politics.
And you know, fine, whateveryou have your opinion, but
whenever they really get intopolitics, like fucking george
clooney's, like really likedicaprio is like super into
climate change, like okay, fineor uh, tom hanks is another tom
hanks A lot.
Okay, have your opinions likeeverybody else, that's fine.

(08:25):
But whenever you almost make itmore your thing than your
primary profession, which isacting, that's whenever it gets
old.

Josh (08:35):
Dolly Parton said it best.
She's like I'm here toentertain you.
That's all I'm doing.
I'm not an expert.
I'm not giving my opinion onanything besides the fact that
I'm going to entertain you.

Zach (08:46):
That's my opinion on anything besides the fact that
I'm going to entertain you andthat's it.
But that's the sense I getwhenever I hear Matt Damon talk
about anything political is likeit's good, he's got this air
about him Like he sucks his owndick.

Josh (08:51):
Yeah, A little bit.
Yeah, I like how they all werelike, if he gets it or Trump
gets it, I'm moving like okay,so move uh, Rosie O'Donnell, she
fucking did it.
She did it.

Zach (09:02):
And then they fucking hate her over there.

Josh (09:04):
Yeah, they're like great, bring your shit over here.
God dang it and take her backthe podcast lately.
Well, the ones that, whicheverones you follow, but like Joe
Rogan's has been really goodlately, Like he's had some
really cool guests.

Zach (09:18):
He's had some, actually some.
I mean yeah, he's always hadsome cool guests.

Josh (09:22):
He's had some A-list celebrities that I would not.
Five years ago, I would nothave thought they would ever.

Zach (09:27):
There's a bit of a controversy lately with him,
though, on his podcast.

Josh (09:30):
Is there.

Zach (09:30):
Yeah, about what I'm going to.
Only get too deep into itbecause it's like some fucking
level of politics that like hitsme hard.

Josh (09:38):
Oh, okay, I got you.

Zach (09:39):
But nobody would really care.
But I mean, the long and theshort of it is that he's had on,
uh, he's had on a string ofkind of uh, conspiracy theorist
type people on the right,they're a little, they're iffy,
they're a little.
Jew haiti, they're a little.

Josh (09:56):
Maybe hillary wasn't that bad, kai see, okay, yeah, but he
also has a very diverse.
Well, he does, but people I,because he's so curious.

Zach (10:04):
Well, I guess he was having a string of those come on
, and so it kind of was likeokay, what's going on here?
We need to balance this out.

Josh (10:11):
We're seeing a trend.

Zach (10:12):
Yeah, we're seeing a trend .
So there's an author andjournalist named Douglas Murray
that went on there.
He's from the UK, gay man, andI don't know why that matters,
but just add flavor, they'll putit on there too.
Yeah, right, but he's apolitical commentator, but
mostly an author, journalist,and he has been on there before

(10:35):
and he went on there to talkabout this particular issue and
it also was kind of centeredaround.
He just wrote a book outlininghis experience and what he saw
and basically, is doing thejournalism thing over in
Israel-Palestine thing going onor whatever right the conflict.

(10:55):
So he goes on Rogan to talkabout his book and then they, of
course, being that that's thesubject matter Rogan brings on,
he's like I'm going to bring onmy buddy who's a comic, who is
not really a comic anymore, he'smore of a political commentator
on a podcast who don't knowshit named Dave Smith.

(11:16):
So he comes on there andbasically they debate and have
at it back and forth and prettymuch, depending on where you
already landed, is is where yousee that debate went down.
But um, but it's douglas murraywas going there, basically kind
of chiding rogan saying hey,listen like, and also day smith
saying hey, look like you're,you're free to say whatever you

(11:40):
want to say.
But like people coming on hereand saying, like hitler wasn't
that bad and that winstonchurchill was the real villain
of world war ii and there's nopushback on that, let's know,
like really dude, and you don'thave the other side, kind of
coming to me like you know,someone who has studied history
their entire life, not just somerandom fucking guy that's read
some articles you know, I didn'tsee where it would look.

(12:01):
Bad it looked, looked bad.
And so it looks bad on Rogan'spart and then also the next,
very, very next episode.
I think he was on with TimDillon, who's hilarious, also
gay, he's a comic and he's wild,and they were like kind of like
making fun of Douglas Murrayand it was kind of weird for Joe
to do that.

(12:21):
He's not really he usuallydoesn't make fun of anybody.
He'll make fun of people, butnot like his friends and not in
a way that was like it wasunfair.

Josh (12:31):
I started the ones after Tim Dillon.

Zach (12:36):
Then he had on.
There was a big controversygoing back and forth on the
Twitterverse.
I suppose that's the reason whymost people don't know any.
This is mostly like acontroversy that lives online.
Only you know what I mean.
Yeah, I don't have Twitter.

Josh (12:48):
Nobody fucking knows I gotcha.

Zach (12:49):
So, but someone who does kind of like imbibe in those
waters.
It's a problem to where.
There's too many conspiracytheorist people that are mostly
right-leaning, mostlylibertarian, that type.
They're not liberals, I mean,sometimes maybe they are, but
they're definitely not crazylefties or whatever.

(13:11):
But they're on our team, inquote, if you wanted to say that
right that are getting a littlecrazy and some of it's not
genuine because they just wantit for clicks and engagement.
And then some of it probably isgenuine.
Candace Owens is one of those.
Candace Owens went off thefucking deep end and she's like
full on anti-Semitic.
Now it's crazy, See, I didn't.

Josh (13:32):
I'm not keeping her.
I usually like Candace Owens alot yeah.

Zach (13:36):
I know I always had any.
I always had like this, likesomething about her just did not
sit right with me.

Josh (13:42):
I didn't obviously worship her.
She had some really uniquethings to say, especially for a
black woman, for sure.
But even leaning around I'mlike okay, yeah, she says some
smart things, but I have notrecently seen anything with her.
I haven't been watching reallyany politics stuff.

Zach (13:59):
There was a whole controversy with her and she got
let go of where she was at.
She went independent, and it'sa whole thing.
She and she got let go of whereshe was at.
She went independent.
It's a whole thing.

Josh (14:05):
She was with Daily Wire, wasn't she?

Zach (14:07):
She was with them and that's where she left, because
she got a little too.
She was saying some unsavorythings.
That was towing the linebetween blood libels about Jews.
I think you're right.

Josh (14:23):
It's just like the thing we were just talking about.
There's a line that's like howfar can I push it?
Am I relevant anymore?
I need more views, or whateverthe case may be.
But I didn't know that aboutJoe.
I'm finishing up the one withJordan Peterson.
He just said Jordan Peterson,the Jordan.

Zach (14:39):
Peterson one.

Josh (14:40):
I was going to say it's a great episode.

Zach (14:42):
Fantastic.
And Jordan does bring up thepodcast that he had with Douglas
Murray and and I think it'sbeen a few weeks since that
podcast with with Murray.
So Peterson took a very middleof the road approach but he also
got his point across.
Was was trying to let Joe knowand I think Joe finally kind of
got it.
You can kind of tell during thepodcast was like anybody can

(15:04):
say whatever they want, right,but we at some point, if you
have certain you have, once youhave a large audience, you have
a responsibility.
yeah to to hold yourself to astandard there's a leadership
yeah, there's a standard outthere, like you can just, you
can be like kanye you just say abunch of fucking crazy shit and
it and millions of ears hear itright.

(15:26):
But if you want to be takenseriously, then you're gonna
have to hold yourself to astandard that all of the other
academics and people withexpertise you know.
I know we're in this likeculture where it's like fuck the
experts were wrong, fuck theexperts.
But you still need experts.
You still hold.
If you're gonna hold the expertsto account and that they fucked
up and then reamed their ass,but then you're going to just

(15:46):
spout off a bunch of shit whenpeople try to call you out, then
you claim that you're gettingcensored or whatever.
No, we're not trying to censoryou.
We're trying to hold you to anacademic standard, to where you
can go around saying thatWinston Churchill was the
villain of World War II.

(16:07):
You can do that, you're free todo so.
Does that make you right?
No, was Winston Churchill afucking saint?
No, did he make some mistakes?
Sure.
Did he do some things that wereprobably self-serving?

Josh (16:19):
Sure, but was he the villain of World War II?

Zach (16:22):
But was Hitler good Right, and so I think that's the
implication they're getting to.
I basically come down to theconclusion that if you're a
conspiracy theory inclined oryou like getting to the bottom
of things, whether it's JFK orWorld War II or whatever, stay
away from fucking Jews.
It's just like a trap.

(16:43):
Like don't talk about the Jews,Like just don't.

Josh (16:46):
And why would you need to Like, just don't talk about?

Zach (16:48):
Israel.
Don't talk about Jews.
It's a fucking trap.

Josh (16:50):
To even get your point across.
Why would you need to?

Zach (16:52):
Because there's my thing, yeah, well, I mean, it's just
like, even if you wanted to talkabout the particular conflict
in Palestine and Israel, or, andyou got criticism, if you're a
public person, just stay awayfrom that one, because there's
so much more than any othertopic.
There's so much propaganda outthere and misinformation that a

(17:17):
normal person is not going to beable to sift through it.

Josh (17:21):
Well, it's not civil.
It's not a civil conversation.

Zach (17:23):
It becomes emotional.
It always turns into shit.

Josh (17:25):
It becomes violent becomes violent, it becomes.
It's just nothing that there's.
Yeah, you're right, it's not agood.

Zach (17:32):
There's nothing good about it there's nothing wrong with
saying like I don't know, no 100I don't want to talk about that
because I don't.

Josh (17:38):
I don't know enough, I'm not educated enough in it to be
one-sided and I don't want tohear you lecture me.
Yeah, there's.
There's nothing wrong with that.
I respect people to say that.
Yeah, I've said it to people.
If I don't know, I don't know,especially if they're like I
hate the word passionate, but ifthey're really passionate about
what they're saying, I'm likeI'm not versed well enough in
this to even carry thisconversation.
I can't.

Zach (17:59):
Well, anyway, that was like the past few weeks with the
Rogan and with Douglas Murrayand Peterson kind of touches on
that too where he's had on somequestionable folks.
And even you know there's awhole, there's a whole cadre of
people right now that are thatare entertaining these fringe
conspiracy level theories andit's you know, stuff, that stuff
that's not like well, it's aconspiracy because we don't have

(18:20):
enough information.
No, there's a ton ofinformation out there.
They're just ignoring andcherry-picking things to create
this mystery when there isn'tone.
You know what I mean.
Let me ask you this, and TuckerCarlson is one of those he's
also brought on somequestionable folks and he said
some questionable shit.
It's just like when he went toRussia and he was talking about
how great Russia is andeverything's clean and the

(18:42):
trains run on time, and you knowhe went to the grocery store
and everything was cheaper indollars, right, he could get
like so much shit for like $3 orwhatever Because there's the
exchange rate.
Stay there.
He didn't even understand thatthe exchange rate is different,
that everybody in like Russialike makes $500 a month, right,
so it doesn't compare.

Josh (19:03):
So it's just shit like that.
Let me ask you this, sinceyou're very soon and we don't
have to get on a long droughtabout it Do you think?
Do you think that this ishappening because our
administration has changed andthere's not as much to talk
about anymore?
I think that there was.

Zach (19:16):
I think.
I think that's.
I think there's something tothat.
Okay, I think it's two things.
I just thought of that.
I think it's two things.
I think it's because Trump wonthat our side and I put that in
air quotes is now energized,rightfully, so, right, we won,
or whatever.
Well, there's also some shitelements that are taking

(19:40):
advantage on our side that arealso energized, yeah Right, and
we need to be careful.
Instead of riding this wave ofvictory, we need to look in our
rear view mirror and check ourown house.
Yep, make sure it's in order,because we're going to lose
sight and we're going to let thecrazies out.
And that's what happens to theDemocrats is they let the
crazies?

Josh (20:01):
out yeah, 1%.

Zach (20:01):
And the fucking inmates were running the prison Right,
excuse me, they let the craziesout one percent.
And the fucking inmates wererunning the the prison right,
excuse me.
And they ended up getting theirass handed to them because
everyone was like you guys arefucking crazy.
Well, the same thing can happento the other side.

Josh (20:13):
We're not immune to it.
Putting on a pedestal.
We're yes, we're letting ourworst shine, it's like hey, stop
, yeah, yeah it's that kind ofthing.

Zach (20:20):
So we're letting the crazies out.
And also trump can do no wronglike I.
I think he's made a fewmissteps.
I mean overall, if you were togive it a grade, it's like a
fucking A.
It's like an A-.
It's a few things I didn't like.
I don't like so far, but goodgrades so far, but I don't like
what's happening in kind of therecesses and the fringes that

(20:41):
they're starting to come outsome more, and and the fringes
that they're starting to comeout some more, and even people
that were sensible and highprofile, like Tucker Carlson,
candace Owens you could say evenJoe was entertaining.
I think Joe has always beenwhat Joe has been, but he's
entertaining some things that heshouldn't entertain.

Josh (20:55):
Really, I think that's why I was asking you, because
you're a lot more well-versed init than I am.
But that's why I was wonderingdo you think that has something
to do with?
it since the narrative haschanged so much because of the
shift in power that people arelike well, I can't talk about
Biden, I can't talk about theleft, because it's kind of been
quiet.
Like you said, after our house,whatever has won, it stayed

(21:17):
quiet.
Now we have these new things.
Well, what's the next big thing?
It's like well, let's find someshit.

Zach (21:29):
But, like you said, it's, as we're riding the wave, like I
think that's it, everybody'strying to find their peace,
right, that's right and staketheir claim on this little area.
And you know, if no one has,you know, cornered the market on
, you know, hitler wasn't such abad guy, maybe churchill was
the villain, then something,then they're gonna like go in
that direction and stake that.
I feel like we're just grabbingfor some grab followers, just
like that claim.

Josh (21:44):
I feel like we're just grabbing for something and grab
followers.
It's like flat earthers.
We're just grabbing stuff, dude, just ride it out.
You don't have to take people.
What's coast?

Zach (21:51):
It's like flat earthers.
It's the same kind of thing.
I attribute it to the samething.
Winston Churchill was not thevillain of World War II.
Also the earth is round ofWorld War II.
Also the earth is round.
Like those are the same thing.

Josh (22:03):
Yeah, I mean yeah, flat earthers are crazy people.

Zach (22:05):
They're retarded Like ancient peoples that were
building the fucking pyramidsthousands of years ago did
simple experiments to know thatthe earth was fucking round.

Josh (22:16):
Yeah, and we're talking about people with like a very
low education.
Yes, like this.
Know, dude, I don't know.

Zach (22:23):
It's so stupid.
And so Candace Owens, when wewere talking about her, like,
here's an example where she wentfucking crazy.
She said that basically NASA isa conspiracy and that space
quote space is fake and gay,which is kind of funny.
I'm going to look this up later.

Josh (22:43):
You've got to look it up.

Zach (22:44):
Candace Owens said because she doesn't believe the moon
landing happened.
She doesn't believe we'veactually been to space.
It was after, uh, katy Perrywent to space with Gayle King
and all those you know she wentinto orbit.
Yeah, she went into orbit for10 minutes, sang a song and then
came down.
Yeah Right, it was just andthat was driving me nuts.
They were like first all-femalecrew.

(23:04):
I was like you weren't a crew,you didn't train for years to
pilot a vessel into space.

Josh (23:10):
I mean, it'd be like me riding on a Southwest flight.
I'm like I'm a pilot.

Zach (23:14):
Yeah right.
No, you're not Pretty much.
I'm part of the crew.

Josh (23:17):
No, you're not Like, you bought a ticket.
Like, yeah, but I airline, yes,come on, man.
Like is it neat?
Sure, if you got a lot of money, you're fucking bored.
Cool, sure, I'd rather be likehey, dude, we went for a hell of
a ride yeah, just enjoy it forwhat it is, but like she's not a
fucking hero.
No, please, let's don't get onthat, on that narrative it's a
hero.

Zach (23:34):
No, it's silly, but anyway , candace was.
Candace was talking about thatand then she was basically space
is fake and gay.
That nasa and that nasa was andshe you don't even know.
Like she's read some articles,she's like you don't even know
the real history of NASA, how itwas started by the occult, and
it's like Satan worship.

Josh (23:51):
Yeah, dude, I swear to God .
There again we've talked aboutit before where everything is
demonized.
I think people are just bored.
You're just fucking bored.
Even if it wasn't a cult, whatthe fuck would?
What has that done?
What I mean?
What, what's?
Let's demonize nasa, it kind ofworks.

Zach (24:07):
He's like we're literally talking about it on another
podcast.
There's a thousands podcastsout there all talking about
candace owens saying that spacewas fake and gay.
But they'll listen to us, right, right because there's and even
you know we're extremelycredible.

Josh (24:20):
There's nothing.

Zach (24:21):
There's nothing entertaining about, about saying
the obvious thing.

Josh (24:24):
I guess that makes sense and she's dude.
She's just becoming victim.
I don't know.
I'm like dude, come on man.

Zach (24:33):
Well, the running theory I'm going to conspiracy theorize
about Candace Owens.
The running theory is that it'sher husband, so she apparently
got married to this dude.
He's white and British.
Yeah, within like two weeks ofmeeting him.

Josh (24:50):
I got married really fast too.

Zach (24:51):
Not two weeks no no you know, and she that was the
switch is where she was fairlynormal, okay, and then she went
off.
The fucking same guy.
She has kids with her.
Yeah, yeah, okay.

Josh (25:01):
She went off.
The fucking Same guy she haskids with, though, right, yeah,
yeah, okay.

Zach (25:03):
And he's kind of.
Apparently he's the one thathas all these opinions about
Jews and space and all this kindof stuff.
Can we just leave people alone?
But I always thought she waskind of grifty.
I always thought she waslooking for an audience wherever
she could get it.
She used to be a liberal, sheused to be like an activist, I
remember that and then sheswitched and she had the whole
Blexit movement where she wastrying to get black people away

(25:24):
from the Democrats, and she waswith Turning Point USA, with
Charlie Kirk, who's really good,and then he's like a normal you
know he's not.

Josh (25:31):
I know Kirk, yeah, he's not off the rails.

Zach (25:34):
He's a little weird.
He's kind of got some.
They're all weird.
Yeah, he's a little homeschoolvibes you know what.
I'm saying, yeah, church youthpastor vibes or whatever going
on, but otherwise he's fine.
And then she went to Daily Wireand then, of course, she
started saying some shit aboutthe Jews.
And then now she's independent,and now she has no leash

(25:54):
whatsoever.
So I always felt like she wassearching for an audience to
just be as crazy as possible.
She likes to stir the pot, Ithink is what her deal is, and
so I don't like that.
I like people that think thingsout and have a rational kind of
analysis of anything.
That's just how I roll.

Josh (26:12):
I got told I look like a youth pastor.

Zach (26:15):
You ever told me that Like a hip youth pastor.

Josh (26:17):
Crump told me he said let's get ripped for Jesus, yeah
.

Zach (26:20):
No, you look like you're in a Christian rock band.

Josh (26:25):
Probably you know what I mean, right?
Probably I don't know we arenailed on the cross.

Zach (26:30):
Yeah, welcome to yeah.

Josh (26:33):
I don't know.

Zach (26:34):
I'm lead singer of Crown of Thorns.

Josh (26:36):
Yeah, here's to 35, actually in less than a week.
Oh fuck, less than a week, Iforgot.

Zach (26:41):
Yeah, Saturday, I oh fuck Last week.

Josh (26:42):
I forgot.
Yeah, saturday, I have to getyou something.
I have to work.
I'll get you a card, I go oncall and I have to work on my
35th.

Zach (26:48):
That's shitty.

Josh (26:49):
Very bitter about it.
That's shitty, whatever.

Zach (26:53):
Yeah, are you having your uh uh cause you, you've made
this prediction You're havingyour midlife, midlife, no.

Josh (27:00):
Well, you and I talked about it.
No, I don't think I'm going tohave one.
I've been getting help.
I'm not embarrassed by it, I'vebeen in therapy.

Zach (27:10):
It's been going really well.
Yeah, I'm definitely not goingto make light of that, but I
probably should do some you can.

Josh (27:16):
I'm actually not ashamed or embarrassed of it at all.
No, that's good.
You've got to trust in it.
It takes work.
It's not like show up and it'slike tell me what to do, Like
it's a, it's a two way street,like you gotta.
You gotta do the things thatare given to you, and then you
also have to be, like, open.
Yeah.
I mean, they can dig, they'lldig, but like it's better if you

(27:38):
can just bring it all out.

Zach (27:40):
Oh yeah You're.
You're seeking help forsomething that's a problem that
you're having in your life, andI should do the same thing.
Right, Yours is different thanmine, yeah everybody's is
different.

Josh (27:54):
Mine's a little more.

Zach (27:56):
I don't know.
I think my main problem that Iprobably need to seek therapy
about is that I haven't had agirlfriend since 2012.

Josh (28:13):
Yeah, but you could ask, I guess I mean they'll dig it out
.
I mean it's you know, I'm notgoing to do it.
No, not 2012, way before that.
But I will tell you this for me, like it will, I've changed my
opinion about a lot of stuffover the last few months.
Like my outlook on stuff haschanged a lot.
And I was telling Kyle, I waslike you feel like after I had
my issues or whatever, like Ifelt like a, a different version

(28:35):
of myself that I won't go backto.
Yeah, like you almost feel likeyou break and then you build
from it, but you become like adifferent, a whole different
whole different outlook.
You know too much, you can'twell on on mental health and,
like you know, I I used to makefun of the idea of all this.
Like I don't, I don't needanything, fuck this, I'm not a
pussy.
Like I don't need any of this.
Like keep it all suppressed andkeep it in a box and then just

(28:57):
keep it all to yourself, don'ttell anybody, and then, yeah,
eventually it just implodes Ithink mine's uh, and dudes are.
We're really bad at like sharing, especially with one another,
another Like we'll bust eachother's balls, like I'm there if
you need me, like.
Obviously that's true, butthere's never a time when you
get the guys together Likeyou've.
You know, you've seen thesegoofy Instagram reels where guys
are like screaming at eachother and they're wrestling and
crying and shit, which theremight be some truth to some of

(29:20):
that.
I don't want to do it and payfor.
Now, if it was my group of youand my tight friends and get
together and hey, is thereanything I'd rather you tell me,
because there's been suicidesand other stuff and sometimes
you wonder, I wonder if somebodywould have called that dude and
just checked on him, or if hehad a way.
Maybe I'm just generalizinghere.

(29:41):
I don't know how true that is,but for me, therapy helps a lot.

Zach (29:46):
Yeah, let's see if you have like something how to
describe this.
I guess the reason why I'venever really considered therapy
before is, but I don'tnecessarily dismiss it.
Although I do think people areover-therapized and they do it
too much.
You can like, especially women.
They you know it's.
They almost see it like as abadge of of honor to like be in

(30:08):
therapy.

Josh (30:08):
It's hard so it's sometimes like because people
ask like like I just said outloud on this, but like it's not
a genuinely it's not a flex.
It's not like getting a newtattoo or getting a new car or
whatever.
It's not.
It's like a I don't want to beembarrassed by it.
It's not like obviously I keepsome of it private, I'm not
going to go into all that stuff.
If you treat it like any othermedical thing, it's just like I

(30:30):
had therapy and it's like, oh,but no one's like, well, what is
it about?
What's wrong Like it's?
You know, I'm.
Yeah, but like, do you want toknow about my cavities too?
Yeah, exactly right, like.
Or you know how went a certainpath to get it and all that
stuff.
But it's, you know, it's supernice, but the reason I that
whole thing got brought up iscause you talked about my 35th

(30:50):
Like.

Zach (30:51):
No, I actually have no issue turning 35 whatsoever,
okay, um well, I guess I wassaying like the reason I, I
haven't really consideredtherapy, but I don't knock it
necessarily.
It's cause plenty, it'severybody they're.
They're not sharp, yeah, youknow, I mean, they're not like
uh, like I'm not like depressed,I don't have like anger issues,

(31:12):
you know.
I don't have like bodydysmorphia, I don't have like
you know, everything's just kindof like, just like my general
mood, just even kind of even,just even kill man and so even
my like problems are

Josh (31:22):
fairly neutral, like I'm just neutral yeah, so you're
like a beach bum, but not notlike a bum.

Zach (31:27):
Yeah, right, I have a paycheck.
Yeah, it was an even kill.

Josh (31:35):
Yeah, and for me it was an un, because you can tell your
loved ones, your spouse orwhatever partner, whatever you
want to call it Most people havegood intentions to try to help
you, but they try to Sidebar.
I hate when straight couplescall each other partner yeah, we
had friends that did that and Iwas like gay.
You mean wife, you mean what?

Zach (31:50):
you met your husband?
Yeah, it's not your partner.

Josh (31:53):
It's gay what are you guys in business together?
Yeah, it's weird, um, I don'tknow, whatever.
Uh, most people try to like fixit.
They want to fix, they want tohelp you, but they want to fix
it.
They want to tell you like,well, this is what you should be
doing, and it's like look, Ilook, I hear you, you need to
eat more protein, and most of uspeople that do it.
I know what to do.
I just choose not to do them.

Zach (32:11):
Same, but if I tell an unbiased professional.

Josh (32:14):
they tell me, and I'm like , oh yeah, I don't know, there's
something about an unbiasedopinion.
A professional that has heardit all and seen and heard some
shit that can take what you'resaying and not try to fix it but
pluck out pieces and be likecheck this out and they take it
out, and then what they pull outlike, imagine they pull out

(32:35):
like a potato chip and they'relike, yeah well, I see this chip
here and they open it and thenshow you all the ingredients.

Zach (32:40):
It's like here's where, and you're like oh, or it's like
you got like an engine knockand one of your buddies is like
oh, you got like a.
You got like an engine knockand you like one of your buddies
like oh look, that's gotta bethe manifold.
I think you need to take thewhole.

Josh (32:51):
Thing off.

Zach (32:51):
You're like huh, I'm gonna take this to a mechanic.
The mechanic's like, oh yeah,it's this sensor.

Josh (32:55):
They only put on these, like 2007 models and that's what
you got.
So, like you just play sensor,it's fine, it's yeah, so that if
anyone, if you ever get achance or curious if anyone
listening or it's, if you're umthinking about it or whatever, I
think you might need it likeit's.
It's pretty helpful, it's cool.

Zach (33:12):
I've been enjoying it I'm glad you're doing that thanks,
man that's good, but yeah,there's the 35, then we can get
into it if you uh, you know, ifyou show up, you know dressed as
a woman, tuck your wiener bag,then I'll be like hold up,
you've gone.
You'll be the first, you'vegone too far.
Or?

Josh (33:27):
I'll be like does this dress make me look fat?
Right now, all right yeah butit's only if I looked hot yeah,
if you looked hot, then I'll belike all right I'll allow it
it's only if you're hot, it'sokay.

Zach (33:37):
Yeah, if you.
If you get titties, I gotta seethem.
Well, of course, that'd be thefirst person I'd show like I
gotta show zach these exactlyyeah I'll fill them too, so yep
no homo.
Well, I guess you'd have to.
Yeah, I mean can't, yeah, ofcourse, many of our dude friends
get tits.

Josh (33:51):
I did have a.
We got to see I don't know if Iever.

Zach (33:52):
I think I've told you this before.
I don't know if I've ever toldon the pod, but I had a roommate
that his girlfriend got faketitties.

Josh (34:01):
I've never touched fake tits, and me neither.
I'm proud of them.

Zach (34:04):
They just got done, so they hadn't got settled yet,
Okay.
But she was just like in the.
I had the master bedroom so Ihad my own bathroom and then the
other two roommates they shareda bathroom, Okay, and so she
was in there, like you knowwhatever, marveling at herself.

Josh (34:20):
Sure Good for her Tits are cool yeah.

Zach (34:24):
And so they were both in the bathroom.
I was like, what are y'alldoing in there?
And he's like my buddy, he waslike a roommate and he was like
he's like come here and checkthis out.
And I was like, all right.
So he opened the door andfucking titties and I was like,
thank you this is awesome.

Josh (34:40):
Yeah, they look great.
Yeah.
And then of How'd they feel?
What are friends for?
How'd they?

Zach (34:44):
feel.

Josh (34:46):
I've never touched real tits.
I prefer real.
I've never touched fake tits.

Zach (34:50):
It was like I don't know, it was very, it was fine, Like
you know their tits were tits.

Josh (34:54):
They were probably still like they hadn't swollen.

Zach (34:56):
Yeah, they were swollen so they were a lot, you know,
stiffer yeah.

Josh (35:13):
I mean fake, if you get them done, not out, I mean, well
, that's not true.
I've seen my movies, so butlike I've I mean I've seen some
really beautiful work and I'msure they feel great I've just
I've never felt fake tits uh,actually I mean real tits are
great too all tits are cool.

Zach (35:17):
Yes, let's just go ahead, and I don't discriminate all
tits are cool.
Uh, well, to a point, there'ssome I probably would not fuck
with, but you don't think so isit, but what if they can't help
it?

Josh (35:26):
I, I mean it's not.
Is that what you're saying?

Zach (35:29):
Well, I mean, I'm talking about old lady titties, that's
what I'm talking about.
I got you.
I ain't messing with that.
I got you Maybe when I'm 80 andI got just a saggy balls.
I don't think you'd like themthen, either, probably not I
don't think the titty preferenceis baked in already.

(35:50):
That's not changing I thinkthat got locked in when I was
like 12, and it has not changed.
Tits are cool, man.
Fuck, I don't even know wherewe're going with that.
Tits Tits are cool, right, butyeah, that was the first time I
felt fake titties.
I just shared something.

Josh (36:07):
Not even my girlfriend On our Instagram or on the podcast
about tits.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
I try to share a good,well-versed group of stuff.
It's just fun.
Yeah, right here.
80s horror movies, Shittystoryline, bad acting, horrible
screenplay, Boobies Fix it withboobies Hell yeah, absolutely.

Zach (36:25):
And play boobies, fix it with boobies.
Hell yeah, absolutely.
Tits, seriously, why is thereso much?
I mean, I guess I don't reallyknow the answer, but I've heard,
ask me, I'll tell you thisbefore.
Why is is there so much sex inhorror movies?

Josh (36:37):
most of it is because the scenarios are all teenage and or
early like into high schoollike that's a choice by the
director to have a bunch ofteenagers in a horror flick.

Zach (36:47):
So what is?
I know there's got to be.
There's got to be some sort ofartistic like it could be,
because that's your most.

Josh (36:53):
I'm gonna, I'm gonna sound weird here, but I'm just gonna
say I think it's because it'syour most, one of the most
vulnerable moments.
So it's scary in itself thatyou're entwined and what's going
on, and then, like that, likethey did one of the an alien
covenant, like locked in, andthen you put yourself in that
perspective.
You're like you know he's withthis hot chick or she's with
this dude or whatever, and thenit's like you think you're alone

(37:13):
, you're in the moment, you'reenthralled, and then, by the way
, I will say the first time thatI was about to put it in.

Zach (37:23):
There is a little hint of horror going on in my head.
Like you know what, when youlost your virginity, yeah, yeah,
yeah, oh, fuck you know there's, it's a little horrific.

Josh (37:32):
It is terrifying If we're going to get down that.
I have my own story on that.
Yeah, it's terrifying, yeah,and exciting at the same time.

Zach (37:39):
But there is this yeah, yeah, right, but if you're
talking about that kind ofterrifying yes, that is scary
too.

Josh (37:56):
Well, I did hear that there was apparently the movie
Carrie is about a woman gettingher period.

Zach (37:58):
I don't think that's true.
I think that is true.
I don't think that's true.
I think it was a book.

Josh (38:01):
I don't know if it was a movie.
Carrie is a book, but like it'snot.

Zach (38:03):
I think the book.
I think the author even saidit's about the book.
I think the author even saidit's about Her getting her
period and developingtelekinesis.
It's about the feminineexperience.
I'll have to research this.

Josh (38:15):
Like it's a satire or a metaphor for getting her period
and the emotional hormones?
Yeah, but they tortured thatpoor girl and then she snapped
on everybody.

Zach (38:24):
Well, yeah, but I'm just saying that's what it's about.

Josh (38:26):
It's a reflection of becoming a woman when she gets
her period and then the PMS, andthen she kills everybody.

Zach (38:33):
Of course, it's that experience that all women have
taken to the extreme satirize itturn it into a horror movie.

Josh (38:41):
You really threw me off with the whole Virginia's.

Zach (38:44):
Boob.

Josh (38:44):
You threw me off with that .

Zach (38:45):
Well, Virginia threw me off.

Josh (38:46):
Well you know what I'm saying.
You get a little bit hilarious,you do.

Zach (38:48):
Yeah, you get it's like, it's like what you do right
before you're about to.
You're like, this is like thisis it.

Josh (38:55):
This is the moment.
This is better than my hand Ahundred percent.
This is the moment, oh so youhave this little, you have this
little.
We could do a whole episode onthat shit.
That story is wild for my side,but yeah, it's scary.

Zach (39:09):
It's the moment.
It is the moment and I was likePorky Pig in it, just t-shirt.

Josh (39:14):
You didn't have time to make this look sexy.
In your mind you're like for metoo.
All my friends had alreadychecked in.
I was the last one in the posseand yeah, dude, you're just I
don't, I don't know like all allyou've seen is videos and heard
things and seen movies.
You're like I have no idea howthis is gonna go, and it's not
pretty at first and you, youemerge a different being and you

(39:37):
know that's the first time forme that you know well for
everybody.
All the dudes, like that's thefirst time you've been that
close to one with your stuff,yeah, and you're like it's like
like trying to land like anapollo, like I don't I don't
know, I don't exactly.

Zach (39:50):
Yeah, it's, yeah, you're doing it just by sight.
Just feel, just feel you don'thave any instruments, all of
your fucking computers I don'tsee good shut down and you're
just like I'm, I'm bringing it,I'm bringing it in all it's
really like all power to frontshields.

Josh (40:03):
Yeah right, yeah, that's it exactly that it's likeaced
for impact and you can't havetoo much power to thrusters.
No, you can't.
Oh fuck, I ran out of fuelquick.
Yeah, I was on all reserve.
Yeah dude, oh fuck.

Zach (40:23):
A crash landed on our titties that happens so fast, I
don't you know.

Josh (40:27):
It's like one of them things you see on the movies
where it's like I hope that wasas good as it was.
For me.
It's like it wasn't.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, I kind of forgot itwas.
I thought it was just me.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to be like I forgot youwere here, yeah, dude.
Oh fuck, we're beautiful trying.

Zach (40:45):
I ejected out of my escape pod right before the explosion.

Josh (40:49):
I even went back to orbit and tried to come again try to
come back in, and it's the samething All reserves.

Zach (40:54):
Yeah.

Josh (40:55):
I had two bottles and that's it.
It was done.

Zach (40:56):
Yeah, that's it.

Josh (40:58):
Yeah, it's a weird time too, man, and then you kind of
walk differently afterwards,like you kind of you kind of?
Yeah there's always a liketribes and stuff.
You see, where a young manbecomes a man, yeah, like he's
amongst the tribe.
Well, it's kind of like us,like it's a very tribal thing,
where it's like he's one of us,like you're greeted by your boys
, like with you know all right,man like, and you don't have to

(41:19):
say anything.

Zach (41:20):
They know it's like you have a different aura.

Josh (41:21):
They sense it and what's nice is like they don't ask any
real details.
Just like I was, you're wasn'tyou're like they all know it was
awesome.
Yeah exactly, even without anyother context, and they all were
just like, yeah and it's just,but then what's nice?

Zach (41:32):
they just want to know what you did wrong.
Yeah, they did the same wrongthing.

Josh (41:39):
What's nice is it's kind of just like that's it All.
Right, your favorite ice creamflavor for the first time You're
just like where can I get more?

Zach (41:47):
I know I'm thinking about it.
I'm trying to remember who I.
I know I probably the firstperson I told was my buddy back
in in high school.
I called Garrett he.
He, he had already had sex likea whole bunch in Africa before
he moved and so he was likedifferent stuff, like he was, it
was fine, um, sounds cool.
Yeah.

(42:07):
When I so, when I finally didit like I think I told him and
uh, I don't remember hisreaction necessarily, he's like
kenyan, he's like african, so he, you know, maybe there was like
a well, they don't really,maybe they don't really like,
yeah, have it, it's a culturalthing yeah, maybe they don't
really talk about it, it'sprobably more, probably a lot
better to be that way, but maybeI don't know.
But it wasn't, he wasn't.

Josh (42:27):
We didn't like sync up and like bro, how old were you, uh,
I was 18, 17, I was an adultyeah, I, uh, I remember I wasn't
a child, remember she left andthen, of course, you're like she
was like she was 17.

Zach (42:40):
I was about to say she was a child.
No, she was 17.

Josh (42:43):
But I was 18 we'll edit that out but, no like I, uh, I
remember, like you know she leftand it's like you kind of, you
kind of like, or just sitting,like you know it's.
For me it was like I didn't.
You're always like I'm waitingfor marriage, like that was your
whole, you know.
I mean, you're raised rightwhatever, and then you don't,
and then you're like, oh fuck,and then I end up like getting

(43:05):
in the car as soon.
Remember calling Garrettspecifically right away.

Zach (43:08):
Like dude, it happened.

Josh (43:09):
It's like oh shit, this whole thing.
But I remember that day or thenext day I was walking up the
stairs in my parents' home and Iremember my mom looking at me
like and I'm like what?
And she was like you slept withthat girl, didn't you?
And I'm like no, mom, Like I'mnot doing it.
What does that mean?

(43:30):
I?
mean, I didn't even say anything.
It wasn't like there wasevidence, like nothing, like I
was busted.
You bleached the areaApparently.
It was like, like you said,there's something yeah, you know
, moms are smart Like I wastrying to stand taller, I don't
know.

Zach (43:46):
My mom said that it's not like I had a stripe in my hair.
My mom told me that she noticedit on her before me.
Oh, really, well, she saw herand she could tell.
She was limping.
Like she'd been riding horsesall day.

Josh (44:02):
She had a limp when she walked.
She had bike marks on her neck.

Zach (44:05):
That was my best performance.
It's been all downhill, sinceshe had bike marks on her neck.
Yeah, that was my bestperformance.

Josh (44:08):
It's been all downhill since she had a bike mark on her
shoulder like you had to pinher down Right.

Zach (44:11):
Then the back of her neck like a cat.
Don't chickens do that shit too, you pounced on her.
Actually like baboons.
I got my back legs up on herthighs and then you just parked.

Josh (44:22):
I like how they do that.
They like behind their back.
To keep it straight Dudes areman?
Like they're wearing a weightbelt.
Yeah, like to let all the otherguys know before they all just
like clapping.

Zach (44:31):
Yeah, like just the boys and he could have too, because
he was hands free.

Josh (44:34):
He was hands free.
Yeah, and it's aggressive, it'snot cute, but yeah she said
that she noticed it on her first.
Well, let me, let me ask youthis what was your?
What's something good youwatched this week before we?

Zach (44:53):
get into, don't get me wrong.

Josh (44:55):
We can talk about Dick and all this stuff, but I figure
we'll try to.
I like having that in here, butlet's get into the meat of the
area.

Zach (45:02):
Yeah, so a thing we've been doing every episode is just
things we watched this week.
Yeah, we kind of detailsomething we liked and something
we didn't like Mine a littlebit more, I don't know.
You end up watching just randomstuff, so sometimes you hit
some duds.

Josh (45:19):
I've actually had some fans and followers of the show
that have been sending me stuffto watch, okay.
So I have four that I have towatch this week or within next
that they've recommended.

Zach (45:29):
So that's pretty.
It's been started with what youwatched this week.
Oh yeah, um so I've been.

Josh (45:35):
Everybody knows that you've been listening to the
show.
The last couple of episodesI've been on this oldies kick a
film.
So I've also been really big ondocumentaries and I've been I
just started diving into thefilm world.
You've gone to a place I cannotfollow.
So I looked up like greatest 100movies of all time, whether it
be how they've been rated, howmuch money they made.

(45:56):
But there's some old moviesfrom the 30s and 40s that are
like always on the tip.
This is what we were talkingabout on the tip.
Casablanca is one of the bigfamous movies.
I'd never seen it.
Everybody knows the lines fromit.
You've heard it, even in.
I mean uh, this is a beautifulfriendship, like you've heard.

(46:16):
Uh, here's the cnu kid, likethe whole thing, that's humphrey
bogart, which I didn't know it,but he's in the top 50 greatest
actors of all time, especiallyfor that era.
But, um, so I started it.
It's, it's different.
I don't think you would hate it.
It's black and white doesn'tmean I like it.
I don't think I.
It was hesitant and I love allmovies, but I was like okay, let

(46:38):
me, let me settle in.
It's a, it's a.
It's.
You know, wizard of oz is thesame era, it's that same time as
well, but it's when's it cooland different?
And fantasy?
This is more like a serious,like it's a love story.
There's war going on, and thenyou know, of course, the simple.
The story is simple, it's notcomplex, it's really easy to
follow.
But you have to I think we'reso used to now and nowadays you

(47:00):
have to have this real complex,thick story to like keep you
entertained.
This isn't like that.
It's not a fast pacing, it'snot.
There's not superheroes,there's not big shootouts,
there's not.
You know, there's music,there's this love triangle, if
you will.
And then there's this undertonestory of the war of germany
doing their whole conquest, andthen you've got your two leads

(47:20):
but like it's, even the actingis so much different.
You're not, you're they'rehaving to not overact, but but
act like really act.
It's not this whole thing wherenow it's like well, she's
pretty hot, but she's kind of ashitty actor, but I like seeing
her on screen.
None of these people are likethey're good-looking people but
some of them are not stunning,but they act.
I don't know it's so different.

(47:41):
It's almost like a fine wine.
When you watch it, you're likein the pinnacle of films.
Especially for that time it waslike one of the greatest ever
and I've never seen anythingwith Humphrey Bogart in it.
He's a cool fucking dude andeverybody makes smoking look
awesome.
Yeah, that's.

Zach (47:57):
I would say that is one thing they smoke, they smoke,
everyone smokes, everyone'scrazy.

Josh (48:01):
They never finished their cigarettes and and I don't know
if that's something that's inthe movie, because they're
probably having to smoke so muchor they all really did but like
they'll like light one, andit's never in a, it's never in a
carton or in a box it's nowthey have their herbal
cigarettes, they pull they pulla case like a silver case out of
their suit pocket yeah hold onopen it and they'll light it,

(48:28):
but they want to finish it likeacting.
They'll go in one room yeah, putit out, go in the other room,
light another one like now, likeit's they.
It's always lighting acigarette, but the way they do
it and they even blow theseother faces like he'll light one
and these two will have akissing scene.
You're just like thismotherfucker is cold as ice.
It's so cool.
But even towards the end of themovie I was just like I was

(48:49):
rooting for the lead, like I wasinvested.
Towards the end I'm like thisis fucking rad.
I would highly recommendwatching it.
Just give it a try.

Zach (48:58):
Okay, just try it.
Which one did you like, whichone was worse, or which one did
you like better, casablanca orGone with the Wind?

Josh (49:10):
okay, so gone with the wind is three hours and 47
minutes long.
That's like it is watching lordof the rings extended cut.
You are watching.
I've seen all those.
You are without.
That's a.
Those are easy for me yeah butmy mom loved going with the wind
and I'd never sat and watchedit and victor fleming did, who
did wizard of oz.
Apparently three differentdirectors worked on this film
but he got the credit for it andthe oscar.
But apparently, like at itstime, when you watch it now it's

(49:33):
a little it's different becauseapparently it's caught a lot of
flack as time's gone, becausegenerationally, like there's
there's racism in it.
It's during it's right at thepeak of the civil war.
So you're down in the south andapparently from what one person
said was that people didn'tlike the way the south was
depicted in the film.
It's a movie, for christ's sakeso it's just but it's depicted

(49:54):
as a beautiful place.
And you know there's slaves butthey're not mistreated in the
movie um and it and they're likethat's not how it actually was.
But my, my personal opinion waslike I wasn't there and neither
are the people bitching, so Idon't know if it was like that.
I'm't there and neither are thepeople bitching, so I don't
know if it was like that.
I'm sure there's evil in theworld, so I'm sure there was
terrible things happening aswell.

(50:14):
But the movie depicts it asthey just work the land for this
one plantation.
And you have your lead, who'sScarlett O'Hara, who's a
stuck-up little shit, southernBelle, and she has sisters as
well and her dad owns aplantation and they do the
cotton and all things.
They have her main housekeeper.
That woman's a great actress,she does it great.
And then the Civil War poppedoff.

Zach (50:36):
People have a problem with it because it's set on a
plantation.

Josh (50:38):
That's correct.
Well, it's just because I thinkit's not so much.

Zach (50:42):
Like plantations didn't exist.
Well, there really weresegregations going on during
that time during the 30s and 40swhere like oh, this is like a
Okay, because you're saying theWorld.

Josh (50:51):
War I, it's during Civil War.
Civil War, it's the Civil War.
The movie is depicted as beingthe Civil War.

Zach (50:55):
So full on when you say plantation, actually still has,
oh real working plantation inthe film not obviously when it
came out.
It's set during that time.

Josh (51:03):
None of that really it's there.
But for me, as a viewerwatching it.

Zach (51:07):
I mean, if people have a problem with Gone with the Wind
because of that reason, thenthey would have a problem with
Django.

Josh (51:11):
They would Exactly right and it's a movie.
But I prefer Casablanca.
But they're very different.
They're just different movies.
First off, gone with the Windis in color, it's Technicolor,
same one they did with Wizard ofoz, so it looks great, but it's
, it's long and the whole.
You know, if you're not likewomen, empowerment or whatever,

(51:32):
that's kind of what it's aboutlike she's.
It's her starting out as thislittle brat trying to take on
suitors because she's jealous,because this girl has this girl
or this guy excuse me, this girlhas this man.
But it follows her likepersevering and climbing not
only the social ladder but thenfollowing the money, trying to
make herself something to takecare of her family, and then the
union invades and it's thiswhole thing.
So you kind of watch her goeverywhere.

(51:53):
But the acting is really good.
It's a good movie.
It's just fucking long andthere is some parts you're just
like.
But they have intermissions inthe movie, like act one, act two
, act three, like it even givesyou a quick thing.

Zach (52:06):
It gives you a black screen.

Josh (52:07):
Okay, it gives you a text almost like a prologue in a book
.

Zach (52:11):
It gives you in between, almost like watching a play.

Josh (52:13):
You could pause.
Yeah, that's actually probablythe best way to put it.
It's very play-like, Okay, butit's good.
I can see why.
I mean it's got.
You know, there's not reallyany singing, it's not a musical
or anything, and some of thescenes, even for the 30s, are
shot really well, Like it looksgood.
I mean, of course it's grainy,it's an old movie, but it's not

(52:36):
bad.
I don't think you would make itthrough it.
You're a completionist.
You might.
I think you would, but I would.
I would.
If you're any kind of moviebuff, I know you are, I would
which one which one should Iwatch Casablanca?

Zach (52:52):
Okay, yep, is it only because of length or because it
is better?

Josh (52:56):
I think it's a better movie.
I think it's um in adds to thetheme.
I don't think I'd want it incolor for the for that
particular film.
Okay, I like it in black andwhite.
I think it kind of helps setthe tone because it's kind of a
dreary movie.
I mean it's, you know there'sthere's not really any super

(53:18):
happy moments.
I mean it's a you know, towardsthe end of course you know your
rise of your main character andof course it's a happy ending,
but the whole rest of it is kindof gloomy and dark.
I mean it's set in the war, soI would definitely start with
Casablanca.
If I were you, that's what Iwould watch.

Zach (53:38):
It's on Max.
I think I'm going to have togive it a go, just so I can.

Josh (53:44):
I had to just because they say it's like Seven the, it's
like seven samurai.
Yeah.
They're saying it's one of thegreatest films.
See for some reason for somereason you say like seven
samurai, it's also like in blackand white and it is old movie
Very like in my mind I'm like Ithink I would rather watch that
because it's about a culturethat I'm unaware of.
Yep that's when it came out.

Zach (54:11):
But I'm going to have to watch this so I can have just to
have my opinion.
I'm still so.
I'm still going to obviously myopinion, even if I like the
movie and I watch it, my opinionis not going to change.
Like I, still, I don't want towatch this shit.

Josh (54:22):
Yeah, it's just too old it is, and some of them are hard.
Uh, amber sent me some, myneighbor, aaron, sent me some,
so we're gonna, I'm gonna watchsome of the movies they've
recommended, because apparentlyhe likes old movies.
Yeah, I don't do old westerns, Ican't.
I've tried.
Yeah, like I tried to watchmcclintock.
It's a john wayne movie I triedto watch.
I just they're.

(54:43):
I.
I know they're good.
I'm not knocking that genre offilm, I just for me.
I like the newer ones.
I can't do the like, I can'teven do the old.
What's his name?

Zach (54:54):
Eastwood.

Josh (54:55):
Yeah.
I just I don't know.

Zach (54:57):
There have been a Western, there are a whole, I'm not big
on the Westerns either, with afew exceptions, right, like I
love Tombstone, yeah, right.
So I mean there's a few countrymusic songs I like.

Josh (55:14):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's the same kind ofthing.
That's what I watch.
Actually, I will say I didn'twatch anything I didn't like
this past week.
Okay, I did not.
I even tried to think of my wayover here, like.

Zach (55:24):
Well, I, if I'm gay, Right , you're gay that's gay Because
I see reading as like anintellectual exercise.
But the only fiction books thatI really read are the ones that
are impactful.
Yeah, I mean, I guess you couldsay Harry Potter was impactful

(55:47):
to a certain degree, but I meanlike Not the way you're
describing it.
I'm saying like culturallyimpact.
It didn't impact my life.
Where I'm like I need to make achange.
It's we're talking aboutsomething that you know a a, a
piece of fiction that transitsitself and like everybody
imitates and there's like moviesabout it and and people always

(56:08):
twist it and alter it and puttheir own flair on it, but it's
all.
That is the foundationalartwork.
So maybe if I go about watchingCasablanca and Gone with the
Wind and Seven Samurai orCitizen Kane Citizen Kane's on
my list Maybe I need to watchthose with that same idea behind

(56:30):
it, well, I'm watching it.
Not because I want to watchsome old-ass fucking movie about
people talking about here's,looking at you, nobody talks
like that.
I can't relate, it's justwhatever.
But if I watch it going aboutlike, oh, this I'm going to
watch, is there any point whenyou're watching it, where you're
like.

(56:51):
Oh, I can see how movies madeafter this many, many, many
times have imitated this sceneor this, so it's.

Josh (56:59):
You said it.
You said it best when it's likeit's because it's so
foundational.
It's a it's a historical piecein my mind, that it's a film,
yeah, but yeah, there's beenmovies that have.
I mean, even when you look athumphrey bogart's character rick
, like I just once, you've seenit, you've seen that character.

Zach (57:14):
You've seen it.
You've seen that character.
You've seen that character,You've seen him?

Josh (57:16):
Okay, you've seen him and he's not this total badass.
Like it's not, like he'sex-military or he's just like
cunning and smart and the way hecarries himself it reminds me
of Peaky Blinders.
Like he's just, he comes off ashis hard ass and like I don't

(57:37):
give a shit.
Like just cool, slick back hair, new york.
Like here's looking at you, kid, but it works for him.
It sounds silly and hearing it,but in the film it works yeah it
makes more sense if I justheard it without ever seeing the
man be like nobody, I thinklike nobody talks, but for some
reason for him it just, it justworks.

Zach (57:55):
I've heard someone say that it just works, man, when
you're talking about archetypesyeah it's an art.
You know, uh, what you'redescribing is an archetype, um,
which is a you know a characterwith certain modes and actions,
yeah, that that to where youcould kind of uh, stereotype
that character and put them in abox like that's thepe.
Like you got the hero archetype, you got the you know the

(58:16):
prodigal son.
He's kind of an anti-hero, theanti-hero is an archetype.
That's kind of how he is in themovie.
You know, the damsel in distressis an archetype.
Yeah.
So you have all these differentarchetypes and you know, okay,
this is the first time that thatarchetype was put to film yeah,
dude, but then it's not thefirst time that archetype

(58:39):
necessarily has existed, likeShakespeare created, like the
vast majority of the archetypesand like spelled them out in all
of his plays that we see nowright, and motifs and stories
and plot lines and conflicts.
Like Shakespeare was the man,Like he did them all right, but
then also his everything that hewrote was also based off of the
Bible, biblical stories.
So like that Bible is actuallythe original kind of pen to

(59:01):
paper.
Creation of archetypes.
Oh yeah, I mean that's even OldTestament right away, Because
it's also just a reflection ofwhat was happening in real life.
You know what I?
mean happening was real of.
In real life, you know, I meanlike the, everyone knows the uh,
you know a person in their ownlife that they would attribute
to being like kind of theanti-hero or the.
You know the hero, the damselin distress.

Josh (59:22):
Exactly right, I can see how it would be a widow if I was
a young man or at that age,because in the, in the film I
think, he's portrays a 37 yearold.
But I could see if I was a uh,a person living in that time and
seeing that movie, I could seehow that would rub off on me as
far as celebrities do on ustoday.

Zach (59:41):
Yeah, yeah.

Josh (59:42):
I could see why Humphrey Bogart's character would be-.

Zach (59:44):
An inspiration.

Josh (59:45):
Yeah, like he's got this devilish kind of suits and slick
, he just has a-.
What's the word I'm looking for?
Charisma.
Yeah, yeah, that's charisma.

Zach (59:57):
He has a uh fuck, I can't think of the damn presence thank
you presence.

Josh (01:00:01):
He has a presence about him when you see him on screen
and he's not like this bigmuscular guy.
It's not like the one, he's notsix, five, it's not.
It's not like what we see nowthat we like put up as as the
big badass, it's just a you justhave to watch it.
He's just like this cool NewYork, like just a cool, and of
course the black and white makeseverybody look obviously a
certain way, but even you knowthere's other leading characters

(01:00:21):
in the movie as well that allwork Casting is great, like,
whoever casts these films does agreat job.
Now I've not seen them,obviously in other films as much
, which I will start watchingother Humphrey Bogart movies and
other ones too but like he justhas a, the whole everyone has
their own presence when theylike, when they walk into the
room.
It's, it's cool.
Everybody, I don't know, it'sjust done really neat.
I definitely.

(01:00:41):
I would recommend that one overgone with the wind.
Okay, that's just my two cents.
I'm not an expert, but anythingthat I actually did not like.
I mean, besides hannah montana,that harper fucking watches
there you go.

Zach (01:00:53):
That can be yours, okay, I fucking hate hannah montana.

Josh (01:00:55):
What was that episode about?
Uh, I don't know.
They're all the same.
Everyone knows who the fuck itis.

Zach (01:01:01):
She looks the same analyze that episode for me real quick
yeah, I mean, I like miley cyrus.
She's a crazy, crazy lady yeahbut like it's, I don't know I
think the only thing that I'veliked her in is there was an
episode of Black Mirror that shewas in that I enjoyed.

Josh (01:01:14):
It was an episode of Two and a Half Men when she cut her
hair short and she had aswimsuit top on.
Yes, also that scene, but whenshe went through her twerking
stage, I was not on board, andthen now she's like I would have
coffee with her.

Zach (01:01:25):
She's crazy.
I think it's cool.

Josh (01:01:27):
We could share tattoo stories and drink coffee drink
coffee, that's true.

Zach (01:01:36):
Uh, what about you hit me, come on what you got?
So, uh, I got impatient and Iended up watching uh buying for
like 30 bucks I could rent.
I could have rent it, rented itfor 25 or 26, but I was like
how much you buy.

Josh (01:01:44):
How much does it cost to buy one?
30, it's fucking high, I know.
And then what sucks is itstreams.
The following week you buy it.
I've done that multiple prettymuch, but I got impatient.

Zach (01:01:51):
I was like fuck it, 30 bucks a dollar chicken sandwich,
yeah, 100, and I like, I waslike I literally just door dash
like 40 bucks anyway, so I waslike what's 30?
Um so uh.
So anyway, I watched, I boughtand watched.
Uh, captain america, brave newworld okay, what do you think?
um, I I will say, if you know,just snap judgment right here, I

(01:02:12):
would say it's not as bad aspeople were saying it was.
It wasn't as bad as well.
I wouldn't say it wasn't as badas the box office said it was.
You know the box office takewasn't as big for a Marvel movie
.
It wasn't a good opening.

Josh (01:02:24):
It wasn't one of the worst ones, right?

Zach (01:02:26):
I wouldn't say it was one of the worst Marvel movies, but
it's bottom tier, it's on thelower tiers.
Um, it's well, I don't know,I'd say it's mid-tier.
I think it's like uh, I put itin the same category as like
thor dark world okay, that'sfair.

Josh (01:02:42):
Yeah, I was gonna ask you, like you know, did it feel like
a filler film, if kind of okay?

Zach (01:02:46):
it kind of felt like a feeling, kind of just it's
almost like I got a piece herethat I don't have, where I can
put this it didn't.
It didn't move the ball forwardas far as the mcu is concerned,
to kind of pass it a little bit, yeah, with one exception is I.
I think that the idea is thatthey were wanting to have this
movie to, to have a, I guess, areason to revitalize the

(01:03:09):
avengers.
Because, uh, thunderbolt rossbasically says and tells Sam
Wilson says that's what he wantshim to do is revitalize the
Avengers.
Of course there's a whole dramaabout that he wasn't sure about
.
He's like I don't want torevitalize the Avengers under
Thunderbolt Ross, who's now thepresident.
Then he de facto is in controlof the Avengers, even though it

(01:03:33):
was SHIE though, um, it wasshield and nick fury before.
He doesn't trust thunderboltross, right?
I got you yeah so he's like Idon't know if I really want him
to be the creator, you know, theone to revive the avengers, and
it would kind of be under hispurview.
He didn't trust that, so buteventually he gets there and
then he at the end of the movie,him and the new Falcon that he

(01:03:56):
I saw that guy.

Josh (01:03:57):
He's like a little protege .

Zach (01:03:58):
He eventually ends up becoming the Falcon at the end
of the movie.

Josh (01:04:01):
Is this all stepping stones for our big doomsday type
thing?
Pretty much, I think.

Zach (01:04:05):
what it is, is this movie was just basically, first of all
, here's what it was.
The purpose of the movie If youwere to say, here's the reason
why this movie exists in thebroader MCU is to introduce
adamantium.
So what they're saying and also, by proxy, it also shows that
there is a global conflict orglobal tensions and kind of like

(01:04:28):
gold rush to possess what theycall Celestial Island, which is
the Tiamat that was emergingfrom the planet out of the
Eternals.
That's what we're going to dowith this Exactly, and there's
literally a fucking celestialbeing emerging halfway out of
the fucking planet, in theIndian Ocean.
That's got to be a problem.
And then, yeah, it's justfloating there.
I guess it's sticking therebecause it's in the ground, and

(01:04:51):
so there's a rush to claim it byJapan and India and.
France, I think it was in thereand in the US.

Josh (01:05:00):
I do like it when they expand.
Yes, previous.

Zach (01:05:04):
Yes, yeah, they call back to something.
It's like well, you've got toexplain this at some point.

Josh (01:05:08):
It's still there.

Zach (01:05:08):
I need someone to make a comment about this being there,
right, and so that's whatbothered me about Marvel's is
that they didn't ever sinceEternals, like there's been
movies since then that are in.
It came after the Eternals thatevent Cause, that was your
climax and you're like nobody'sgoing to fucking address this.
No one's even going to mentionthis, this being was coming out

(01:05:29):
of the core of the earth.
It's like the last thing thathappened when everybody got
snapped.
Half the planet got snapped.
This is another thing that'shappened.
This is a big fucking deal.
Nobody talks about it.
That's what bothered me aboutsome of these movies.
This one addresses it, but notreally head on.
Thunderbolt Ross becomespresident During one of his

(01:05:51):
campaigns speeches or when he'saddressing a group or whatever.
He's making a speech and he'stalking about Thanos snapped
away half the population andthey all of a sudden come back.
We had a celestial come out ofthe fucking earth.
It was a celestial being on thehorizon that just disappeared.
He's actually saying these arehuge threats that we're not

(01:06:14):
prepared for and of course he'sdoing it for his campaigns Like
we need to—.

Josh (01:06:17):
Yeah, but it's all relative to the MCU.

Zach (01:06:24):
I mean that's all a big deal, Right, and so I'm like
thank you, Thank fucking God.
And then all of a sudden, likeI said, the other reason why
entire body.
But they start mining parts ofhim and deep in the core they
end up finding adamantium.
Right, so that's how they'regoing to introduce adamantium

(01:06:48):
and they're saying that this isthe, this is even more, has even
more applications and isstronger than vibranium.
Now that that that there's twoparts of that now stronger than
vibranium agreed, yeah,Adamantium is Now there's two
parts to that Now stronger thanvibranium, agreed, yeah,
adamantium is stronger, but moreapplications was an interesting
.
The fact that they used thatterm, saying it has more
applications than vibranium.
I'm like, okay, I'd like to seethat.
Then the other thing they weresaying is the reason why they

(01:07:11):
were going after.
This is also one of thesemiracle metals, right, If you
can say that that wasn'tcontrolled by a protectionist
country like Wakanda, right, youhad to go through Wakanda and
they were very cagey about thevibranium that they gave out.
Right, they were sitting on agold mine of it and they weren't
letting it out.
Maybe trickle out Bucky's arm,Bucky's arm, bucky's arm.

Josh (01:07:34):
There's only one thing running around and then cap
shield.

Zach (01:07:38):
Um, but adamantium is not controlled by any country and
not an isolationist country, soit was like up for grabs.
So like there's obviouslycountry you know cultural, some
tension, tensions there betweencountries to try to possess it,
um, meanwhile you have thatgoing on.
Sam Wilson is trying to.
He's full-on Captain America.

(01:07:58):
Since the TV show that they hadwhere he's known as Captain
America, they call him Captain.
He's fully Captain America.

Josh (01:08:07):
I got you.

Zach (01:08:08):
There's no mistaking it.
But now that he's been fully inthat role and this is what they
kind of touched of, touched onthe show is he's not sure if
he's the guy for the job?
and one of the things that hethat keeps recurring throughout
the movie is that he's like Ishould have taken the serum,
like right.
But bucky ends up telling himhe says he says you know you
weren't picked because you know,yeah, you may not be the
strongest, whatever, but butthat's not the reason why you're

(01:08:30):
captain america, because you'rethe strongest, the fastest,
whatever it's like, it's becauseof who you are Right, that's
the reason why.

Josh (01:08:36):
So I can't tell you.

Zach (01:08:37):
Right, it's like it wasn't supposed to be me.
And also here's interestingBucky is actually running for
Congress.

Josh (01:08:43):
Yes, I saw the clip from the Thunderbolts.
Yes, where he?

Zach (01:08:47):
Yeah, the fuck, he's a congressman.

Josh (01:08:51):
I love that character In the movie he's running for
Congress.
I love that character.
I think he ends up becomingCongress, yeah.

Zach (01:08:59):
Honestly, Anthony McAnee is not like A-list for me in the
MCU.

Josh (01:09:05):
I don't think he's bad.

Zach (01:09:06):
I don't think he's bad, but this I don't know.
Sebastian Stan first of all.
I think Sebastian Stan is abetter actor period.

Josh (01:09:13):
I'd agree with that.

Zach (01:09:14):
And that character is just cooler, he is.

Josh (01:09:17):
I mean his whole backstory is.
I mean he's OG Avenger in mymind.
I mean he was on the front linewith Cab, and then, of course,
his movie was one of thegreatest ever in my opinion for
the MCU.

Zach (01:09:28):
I'm actually excited about Thunderbolts because of Bucky.

Josh (01:09:30):
That character's arc.
Everything has been perfect, inmy opinion.
Yes.
I just think he's an awesomecharacter.

Zach (01:09:39):
Yeah.
So anyway, he's stillquestioning himself.
He kind of comes to terms inthe end and of course at the end
he's also going to revitalizethe Avengers and he's got his
Falcon now, which is his protege.
So it's really just them tworight now.
And the other thing that theyanother storyline that's going

(01:10:00):
on is the I think they weretrying to wrap up Thunderbolt
Ross' arc and story.
He was played by William Hurtin the first one of the early
MCU movies with Ed Norton asHulk, and of course the events
of that movie is what actuallyestranged him from his daughter,

(01:10:21):
betty Yep Right.
And then, of course, he wasinvolved in the Sokovia Accords
and he locked up half theAvengers.
He's an asshole, he's adickhead.
Right he is.
Well, so early in the part ofthe movie is that he still has
kind of some rage or whateverabout him and and you know he
has to kind of fight backagainst this perception that
he's like this loose cannon,kind of unhinged, kind of you
know, flies off the handle.

Josh (01:10:41):
But he is warm up Right.

Zach (01:10:44):
And so, yes, yeah, right.
So he has to like fight that,that perception of him.
He like shaves his mustachebecause they were like, if you
don't shave the mustache, you'regoing to lose the election,
basically.
So he shaved it to win theelection Stuff like that.
So he ends up becoming presidentand I think you're unsure of
his motives throughout the movieuntil you get to a certain

(01:11:07):
point where you're like hereally is trying to change, he's
fighting his own demons andhe's trying to be a better
person for his daughter.
Mostly he is because he, hisdaughter, doesn't have anything
to do with him and you know thatbothers him.
So he's trying to be a betterperson so that she'll have
something to do with him.
That's the whole motivation,okay, behind that character.
And also he's trying to dowhat's right to protect humanity

(01:11:28):
, right, yeah, um, but he stillstruggles with that.
And so what ends up happeningis he also has a skeleton in his
closet at the events at the endof the uh, mcu Hulk movie,
incredible Hulk uh, mr Blue,that was in the in the movie.
Yeah, he was, you know, incommunication with Bruce Banner
about the gamma radiation in thewhole.

Josh (01:11:50):
he made the abomination yeah.

Zach (01:11:52):
And that making abomination?
Yeah, he ended up makingabomination.
Emil made him do it.
Well, during the events of theend of that movie, you know,
some of Banner's blood spilledon his head and got cut in his
head or whatever, and so he endsup becoming the leader right,
and he ends up his brain getssuper smart and well.
Of course he gets arrested byThunderbolt Ross and he ends up

(01:12:14):
in captivity in this fuckingblack site Out in the rift.

Josh (01:12:18):
Is that what it's?

Zach (01:12:18):
called.
It's called Echo Base orsomething like that.

Josh (01:12:21):
No, it's called the Raft.
No, the Raft is where they nothis is a different place.

Zach (01:12:24):
So this is even like off-site, like black site type
stuff.
So he was keeping them thereand because he's super smart,
thunder ross was actuallyutilizing him in order to uh
make like weapons and defensesystems and stuff like that to
protect humanity.
So he was exploiting his geniusright, and also, to make it
even worse, he was feeding himmore like gamma radiation and

(01:12:45):
banners to make him even smarter.
So he like fucked him up evenmore so he looks gross.
He's all like green and he'sgot like a milky eye and it's
all yellow.
The other one's yellow.
It's gross, he's nasty.
So and also that was my, Iwould say that's my one critique
is that character looks sogross, like to make it's not
good, like he don't look right.
Okay.

Josh (01:13:05):
I've seen pictures.

Zach (01:13:06):
It kind of looks corny, it's a little campy A little.
It looks almost like a fuckingzombie, it looks undead, it
looks weird, but he's a geniusyeah, but he's a super genius.
And he also does all theseprobability calculations.
And he ends up doing all thatin order to run these
probability calculations Towhere he orchestrates this thing
, to where he ends up breakingout of the black site, but also,

(01:13:35):
in the meantime, his goal is hewants to destroy thunderbolt
ross's reputation yeah right,his legacy and like make it to
where he is seen as like theultimate villain throughout all
humanity.
He's been shit and his thing isis that he develops these pills
to in order to save thunderboltsross's life, because he has
like a heart attack.
His heart was like dying, youknow whatever his heart was
failing.
Uh, he, he develops the pillshave basically been microdosing

(01:14:00):
him with gamma radiation,essentially, and so that's how
he ends up becoming the red hulkand so he ends up, or it's
almost like, uh, civil war,where he orchestrated, where
zemo orchestrated, like themfighting and dissolving the
Avengers.

Josh (01:14:15):
It's the same kind of palpatine that he palpatine it a
hundred percent.

Zach (01:14:19):
He orchestrated Thunderbolt Ross during a press
conference in the Rose.

Josh (01:14:22):
Garden, he turns a red Hulk.

Zach (01:14:24):
I actually awesome, he looks awesome, not gonna lie.

Josh (01:14:26):
He burns stuff, it's heat.

Zach (01:14:29):
That's the best part of the movie and it's not even the
climax.
It's not even the climax, it'snot even the end of the movie
yeah, I've seen where theyfought.
It was cool.
Uh, no, I'm sorry, that is theend of the movie.
That is the.
There's a the the fight scenein the Indian ocean, amongst the
uh celestial Island which isjust Tiamat, coming down on the
ground.
Japan and US are about to go toblows and he ends up flying in

(01:14:55):
battles.
It's actually a really coolfight scene.
I've seen them.
I saw them.

Josh (01:15:00):
I saw them.
But Red Hulk fucking awesomeI've seen them fight.
Yeah, and he looks like thetraditional Hulk that we like.

Zach (01:15:04):
Yes, 100%.
It was back to the Rage.
I like it.
I missed that about Banner'sHulk it's going to be Smart Hulk
.
It's going to be smart Hulk.
It's fine, it made sense, butit's just like I need.
The whole point of thatcharacter is the conflict within
.

Josh (01:15:20):
Edward Norton is still the best.
I love that Hulk.
I'm right there with you.

Zach (01:15:24):
But they did.
It looks like fucking HarrisonFord.

Josh (01:15:31):
Yeah, he looked good.

Zach (01:15:32):
It looks really good and, yeah, really good fight scenes.
He looked good.
It looks really good, reallygood fight scenes.
He's also kind of smart as faras his tactics when he fights.
It's clear because he's ageneral, so he's studied tactics
his entire career being ageneral, A wartime general
Really good Things I didn't likeabout it and which is the same

(01:15:55):
reason I didn't like the show isthey touch on this whole like
race thing.

Josh (01:16:01):
It's just like fucking tired it's a tired fucking thing
.

Zach (01:16:04):
It's exhausting like no one cares about isaiah the, you
know, supposedly the firstcaptain america.
Well, actually, when the firsthe was the second.
But um, and then you know he.
They put him in prison for 30,like that was a whole thing that
they taught they spent way toomuch.
Nobody gives a fuck.
It was just.
It was a silly, it's just.
I didn't like it.
Okay, unnecessary story.

Josh (01:16:25):
Would you give the film at a 10?
Uh, I I'll give it a 7.
That's pretty damn good.
So audiences gave it a 70 ontomatoes.
It was because I like theaudience score.
It was 71.
Yeah, which I thought wasbecause they really bombed the
shit out of it.
And then I was like I don'tthink this is going to be as bad
as it is.
It's not that, not as bad.

Zach (01:16:44):
You know if I was like a movie critic.

Josh (01:16:45):
Critics gave it low Movie critics shit on all the MCU
movies.
But it's what they're superheromovies I mean right for what it
is.

Zach (01:16:52):
It's not that bad.
Yeah, should I pay 30 bucks forit?
No, no but, I was impatient forresearch as well and also for
research, so that was somethingthat I liked.

Josh (01:17:02):
I'm going to check it out.
When it comes to streaming, I'mgoing to watch it.
I'd like to get my opinion onit another thing I liked.

Zach (01:17:08):
I'll touch on just real quick because I'm not caught up
with the latest season, but Istarted watching the Righteous
Gemstones.
Yeah, Danny McBride, WaltonGoggins, John.

Josh (01:17:15):
Goodman, my mom's very, very highly of it.

Zach (01:17:17):
Adam Levine.
It's insane.

Josh (01:17:20):
She says it's so fun.

Zach (01:17:22):
It's quick synopsis.
It's about a church, a megachurch, family Right and clearly
these people are not goodpeople Right.
It's like a lot of thosemegachurches.
They start off with goodintentions and then they get

(01:17:43):
greedy and they turn into likethese enterprises yeah, to where
it's just making money.

Josh (01:17:49):
They got private jets.

Zach (01:17:50):
They don't know their people, they have their own
theme parks, they live onfucking compounds and mansions
Like they're so far removed fromlike the purpose of the mission
I need to watch it.
And so Danny McBride like kudosfor him.
He finds these like reallyweird sections of society and
makes a comedy out of them.
You know what I mean Like thewhole, apparently I can't, I

(01:18:11):
don't, I don't, I don't knowenough about baseball, but he's
he's down there's a.
There's a specific baseballplayer that he actually modeled
that.
Okay, Kenny powers after.

Josh (01:18:20):
Yeah.

Zach (01:18:21):
Right, and so he was like.
So he modeled this characterand he had Kenny powers in his
mind and then he just made ashow about this like retired
baseball or you're a washedbaseball player and it's really
good.
Uh, same thing here.
He's like, of course.
Like who hasn't seen these?
Like televangelists, like megachurches?
Yeah, with these, like you know, they're decked to the nines,
they're, you know, wearing goldand these fancy suits.

(01:18:42):
Like clearly there's a griftgoing on here.

Josh (01:18:45):
Like this is yeah, this is not what it's about prime
material for a fucking comedy.

Zach (01:18:49):
It's great.
Side note I've never seen morepenis in my fucking life in this
movie in this show.
Every episode there's fullfrontal, like you only see tits
one time, it's all dick and well, you see it a few times, but
it's only when they go to thislike one, like a satan club or
whatever, and there's like nakedwomen dancing around, whatever

(01:19:10):
so you're like, oh, but it's alllike flash and darkness, not
really good, but you see,full-on like lighting, like
spotlight, full-on cock all thetime.
All right in this fucking show.
So if you like full frontalnudity.

Josh (01:19:22):
This show is for you, I'm telling you.

Zach (01:19:23):
It does not just gemstones and it yeah, right, exactly,
and it does not lit up in at allyeah, my mom told me that she
said the.

Josh (01:19:31):
She said the riffing back and forth and the banter is so
good, but she said it's nutswell then, some of the scenes,
like they're just, they're justfucking ridiculous.

Zach (01:19:38):
Like one of the characters uh is, uh, it's adam levine's
character.
He's kind of like a youthpastor type, you know, he's with
the youths and, uh, he's gotthis like protege that used to
be a satanist and he like pulledhim from the darkness and now
he's like obsessed with adamlevine's character.
Like he's also kind of slow andkind of dumb, so he's like a
puppy dog.
Well, he ends up backsliding inone of the episodes where he

(01:20:01):
goes back to the satanists andhe goes into this club, whatever
and uh, they're talking aboutwas like yeah, he's now a baby
and he's like going, he'sregressed back to his infant
form or whatever, and thesesatanists are talking about it
and he goes in the back room Iswear to god, dude, it was one
of the craziest things I've everseen he's like in a vat of like
milk, like this milky substance, and he's in a red spandex suit

(01:20:23):
like head to toe.
He's got like a gas mask on andhe's got all these like tubes
connected to all down his bodyon this red mask.
Except his cock is out, justzipper and just wiener sticking
out of this red spandex suit andhe's just like.
He's just like waiting this vatof milk.

Josh (01:20:41):
How hard did you laugh at that.

Zach (01:20:43):
I couldn't stop laughing.
It was the weirdest thing.

Josh (01:20:46):
I've ever seen on a show.
I'm starting that show tomorrow.

Zach (01:20:48):
It was so stupid, but that's what we want Simple and
silly and fun Adam.
Levine jumps in there and he'strying to save him.
He pulls the gas mask off andhe's like you came for me or
whatever.
And at the end of the scenebefore he's like I'm really
fucking high still.
It's just crazy.

Josh (01:21:04):
Yeah, dude, I'm going to have to watch it.
I've heard good things.
It's crazy.

Zach (01:21:10):
You can watch some good shit, oh yeah, so Righteous
Gemstones, a fucking plus.

Josh (01:21:14):
I love it it's fantastic, I'm gonna start it.

Zach (01:21:16):
I've just cracked season 2 , so there's 4 seasons going on
right now.
So I'm gonna, I'm gonna powerthrough it, I'm gonna enjoy it,
I'll keep everybody up to datething I hated, and I'll say I
hated because I had really highexpectations and or season 2
first 15 minutes, which isgetting my praise yeah, first 15
minutes was uh was really good,um, and it's been, it's been

(01:21:42):
three episodes uh that theydropped, uh on this premiere of
the show and uh up to the season, and I I'll be honest, it's
boring as fuck.
Like I think that they couldhave just cut out.
There's a scene he does like aheist of this, like prototype
TIE fighter, right, which isreally cool.

Josh (01:22:05):
It's a cool scene.
I've seen it with the Gatlinstyle laser cannons.
Yes, really fucking cool scene.

Zach (01:22:09):
Well, he's supposed to go to this rendezvous point in some
jungle planet.
It looks like Y haven't, for,to be honest with you, um,
because there's like pyramidsand shit, um, so I think it's
you having four, which was the,the rebel base in a new hope,
right?
So I think it's.
I think that's the same place,maybe, maybe not, but he's.
There's some other rebels, butthey're like pre rebels.

(01:22:32):
They're not really officially,you know, part of the rebellion,
but it seemed to be some typeof rebel.
They ended up capturing him andthen they do like a mutiny on
each other and they like fighteach other and there's that's
like two episodes to wherethey're in the jungle and it's
like two groups of dumb asseslike trying to kill each other

(01:22:52):
over trying to get off thisfucking planet and they need the
, the tie fighter that theycan't fly because it's a
prototype, and they need the,they need and or in order to fly
it, and so they're like onegroup has, has the tie fighter
and the other group has and or,and so there's an impasse and
it's like two episodes of juststupid and I just I don't
understand it.
It's a pointless like.

(01:23:13):
You didn't need to stretch thisout like this.
It sucks.
That's one area.
If you were to focus on Andorand what he's doing, there's
another area where it's Bix andAndor's buddy I forgot his name.
They're at the end of seasontwo.
They are on some planet that'snothing but wheat or whatever.
It's like a wheat planet wherethey make wheat and they farm

(01:23:34):
wheat and it's going through animperial audit.
So it got like radio silent,shut down so they could do this
imperial audit on the place andthey're illegal immigrants.
Okay, it's Bix and this otherguy.
They're illegals and they makea very concerted effort in these
two episodes two, threeepisodes in these two episodes
two, three episodes to emphasizethat the evil empire is doing

(01:23:59):
this audit, very much like Doge,and they're also going to catch
the illegals and they've beensending the illegals off.
First of all, I don't thinkStar Wars has ever referenced at
any point the documentationstatus, whether you mean
documented or undocumentedcitizens or peoples in a fucking
community on a planet.

Josh (01:24:19):
No, because it makes no sense.
I've never heard it's eitherowned by the Empire.

Zach (01:24:23):
And also this is a planet that's on the Outer Rim, so it
means it's not under anybody'scontrol.
So I guess the Empire is takingover, taking control of it, or
maybe it's one of the it's inthe outer rim, but maybe it's
still in the empire's purview.
But they have this very I don'tknow it's.
It's like this egalitariansociety where they, you know,
they just make fucking wheat andjust farm fucking wheat there's

(01:24:43):
like three people per you know100 square miles, yeah and
they're worried about two peoplethat are undoc quote,
undocumented, like I mean.

Josh (01:24:52):
I mean look at, I mean talk to me.
It was an outer rim planet andthey still had slavery.

Zach (01:24:56):
Right, it's just, it was.

Josh (01:24:58):
But it wasn't.

Zach (01:24:58):
It was just very, it was a very odd thing.
It was an odd thing to do, likeI could see, maybe, if you
wanted to, if there was like awhole storyline about, like you
know, a planet got destroyed andthere was a bunch of refugees
from that planet on Coruscant orsomething like that.
Okay maybe you can make astoryline about that, because
that makes sense.
But you're worried aboutundocumented immigrants on a

(01:25:22):
planet where it's just threepeople in fields of weeds.
It makes no sense, it's badtaste, it's fucking terrible.
Also, in that scene there's anattempted rape, which is just
shocking for Star Wars.
You're just like wow, this gotdark.
It doesn't feel like Star Wars,it feels odd.
You know what I'm saying.
It's almost you know.

(01:25:42):
It's in the same category as ifthey in a Star Wars film they
reference pedophilia.
It just it doesn't sit rightLike you would in a if you
wanted to make it as real aspossible.
Obviously that stuff goes on inthe Star Wars universe.

Josh (01:25:58):
Sure, we've seen some sleazy places, that's just not
something you show.

Zach (01:26:01):
It's just because Star Wars in essence is for kids.
It's for kids.

Josh (01:26:05):
Well, I mean, even Lucas said it was for, it's for kids.

Zach (01:26:10):
You don't need to show an attempted rape scene.
No For kids, because kids arewatching this.
It's poor taste by whoever'sfucking greenlit this shit.
It's in poor taste.
So you have okay.
So that scene is going on.
Of course, andor ends upshowing up and finally and he
saves the day blah, blah, blahand then they go off and fuck
off, which is still also a coolscene when he shows up with the

(01:26:33):
fucking TIE fighter and startssmoking motherfuckers.
That's actually kind of cool.

Josh (01:26:36):
So anytime he's in the TIE fighter it's cool, the clip's
cool.
The rest of the show sucks assBecause it's traditional Star
Wars, correct, there'sstormtroopers and there's a TIE
fighter.

Zach (01:26:43):
Yeah, Otherwise, and or the entire three episodes is
just chained up inside of abusted down ship, so he does
nothing except fly that TIEfighter at the beginning of
episode one and the end ofepisode three.
Otherwise he does fuck all.
And it's just I'm like, oh, sothen you got that scene, you got
the jungle scene with thestupid dumbass mutineers, and

(01:27:05):
then you have the attempted rapeand illegal immigrant in the
fields of wheat.
You got that going on and thengot the, the third scene that's
happening.
And the third scene is a iswith uh mon mothma.
Right, she was in season oneand she's, you know, eventually
ends up becoming the leader ofthe rebellion and uh, so she's
setting this whole the rebellionin motion.

(01:27:27):
Last season she was uh workingwith uh stalin skarsgård's
character, who's like anantiquer and and he's kind of
like the shadow figure.
That kind of is like pullingthe strings.
He's also a liaison with SaulGuerrera, played by Forrest
Whitaker, and Mon Mothma istrying to covertly raise funds

(01:27:50):
for the rebellion.
Everybody knows where that'sgoing, but she's trying to do it
covertly.
That was all season one.
For that Season two she's onour home planet and she's in
season one.
She had to.
In order to raise this money,she had to kind of make a deal
with the devil and basicallymarry her son off with this very

(01:28:11):
rich person, marry her daughteroff to his son, and so season
two kind of opens with that,with the wedding, and I'll be
honest, there's three episodeswhere they go back to that scene
, those scenes in this wedding,and I don't know what the fuck
anybody's talking about, like Idon't know where in the dialogue

(01:28:31):
was pushing the plot forwardbecause it didn't make any sense
.
There was a big disconnect, likeStellan Kargar's character like
with another character, likehas this surprise for Mon Mothma
and he shows up and it's allkind of mysterious.
I'm like, okay, what's thatabout?
And it's just like a fuckingstatue from some ancient
civilization.
There's only like so many leftin the world.
Whatever.

Josh (01:28:50):
It's like okay maybe he's turning in for money I, maybe
that's what.
I don't know what it is herethey have.

Zach (01:28:55):
There's like some tension between those, these characters,
and, uh, there's somethingafoot.
But I couldn't place what thefuck is going on because
nobody's saying it's talkingstraight.
They're talking like code andit's like they.
I'm supposed to know whatthey're saying, but I missed
something.
It's like an inside joke Imissed out on and I don't know
what the fuck is going on.
And there's also Mon Mothma.
That's fucking mouthful, hardto say.

(01:29:16):
Her younger sister is clearly alesbian.
There was a whole lesbian thingwith her in season one.
She's doing something, I don'tknow, that's lesbian-y, I don't
fucking know.
And none of it makes any sense.
And then the wedding was weird.
It had to be weird, it wasarranged.
There's like a dance scenethat's like fucking with techno

(01:29:38):
and Maude Mothman's dancingaround like a fucking schoolgirl
.
It's just weird, it's shitty,it's stupid, it's terrible.
It didn't really push the plotforward.
The first three episodesoutside of the first 15 minutes
and the last 15 minutes are dogshit.

Josh (01:29:52):
Yeah, and I tried to watch season one this week because
everybody gave high praise toseason one of Andor.
The character I know is fromRogue One.
Excuse me, so I know thecharacter but I can't get into
it.
I've tried now three times,three different times, and I
cannot.
It does not.
There's no hook for me.

Zach (01:30:14):
It does not pull me in.
What I would say is and I cansee that because it is different
Well, I mean, I've even wentinto it thinking, okay, this is
just, this is and I've seenevery Star Wars film ever made.

Josh (01:30:26):
I think it's Andor, I think it's just.
I'm just I don't want to saybored, I'm just not interested
at all.
I don't care about thecharacter, I don't care about
what's going on, I just don'tgive a shit.
We all know what happens to him.
He dies in a great way.
Rogue One is one of the bestStar Wars movies ever.
And then hearing this otherstuff about season two,

(01:30:49):
everybody knows Star Wars hasbeen very bumpy in the last few
years.
It's been very bumpy, theroad's been awful.
So I'm just kind of like, ifyou give it a that's.
The only reason I tried seasonone is because you said it was
good.
So I trust your opinion on itand so far I'm only a few
episodes in.
It's not awful.
I don't think it's bad, right?

Zach (01:31:11):
I don't think it's a think for season one.
I've told this to people before.
I think you have to get pastthe first three episodes.
Maybe that's what it is Onceyou get into the meat of the
episode and there are longerseasons than normal.
Yeah, it's 12 episodes.
12 episodes, which is longer.
Normally these shows have beenlike eight episodes, sometimes
six, which I was shocked whenwow.
So it's a longer series You'vegot to go into it with like it's

(01:31:32):
building to something, soprobably it's a slow burn.
It's a slow burn.
It builds into itself this one,though I think the season two,
the way these first threeepisodes have gone is that they
took out how successful Andorseason one was and how, pretty
much, with a few exceptions,most people liked it and they
were like they fucking wokefiedit and they just went fucking.

(01:31:56):
When are we going to get pastthat?
When are we going to stop this?
It's not good so far, but I'mgoing to continue to watch it.
It's not as bad.
It's not that bad to where Iwon't stop watching because it
also has 12 episodes, like it'sgoing to have a shit ton of
episodes.
And the way I kind of see it islike, yes, the, the character

(01:32:18):
and or, and even though that'sthe title of the show, you know
what ends up happening to him.
He dies on scarif right, yeah,in rogue one, um, but that's not
, that's not to me.
I'm watching it.
That's not what it's about,because in rogue one you kind of
, when you first introduce thatcharacter, it's kind of a piece
of shit.

Josh (01:32:37):
Oh yeah, he's an asshole.
He's kind of an asshole.
There's some crooked stuff hekills.

Zach (01:32:42):
Right, he's a dark element of the Rebel Alliance,
necessary but dark element.
I think that Andor, if youwanted to look at it from a
character perspective, is hislead up to that point.
And then he has redemption inRogue One, but I actually don't
really watch it for that reason,necessarily for Andor's arc.
Sorry, allergy, you're allright.

(01:33:03):
I'm watching it because I likethe idea of finding out how the
rebellion came about.
Like it's an origin story forme.
It is yeah Of the rebellionabout like it's an origin story
for me it is yeah, of therebellion that's the reason I
was so disappointed with the.
Mon mothma scenes is in with andwith the.
I cannot think of his name, thecharacter's name, but, uh,
kelton skarsgård, character.
Um, they're the real, likegodfathers and like architects

(01:33:28):
of the rebellion, yeah, right,and or it's just an agent right
of the rebellion, uh, one of theearly agents, and he has his
role to play.
But these people, these powerbrokers, uh, you know, and
mahmothma is a senator right inthe, in the, the empire that, uh
, she has the, the real one thatcobbles together the, the

(01:33:49):
resistance right and therebellion.

Josh (01:33:50):
I want to see how that all plays out that's interesting
because initially we it wasalready a stat, rebellions
already established.
Yeah, so yeah, of course, I'm,you know, I like knowing how it
got started as well, becauseit's a, it's huge, it's a big,
pivotal thing the empire, therebellion like what what
happened like how did this thingright?

Zach (01:34:08):
how did it get to this point where they had, you know,
they had the uh, the monari.
How did they get involved?
They had a fleet of fuckingX-Wings.
How did they get Alderaan partof the rebellion you know what I
mean and then getting blown upBecause it really just started
off as just a cadre of people.
It wasn't full systems involvedin it, it was just Mon Moth.

(01:34:29):
They're slowly building anetwork in order to finally make
the push to go full rebellion.
Yeah, so right now it's notfull systems.
You don't have the Mon Calamarihomeworld, you don't have
Alderaan, you don't have MonMoth's homeworld actively
fighting against the Empire.

Josh (01:34:45):
It's just a small group.

Zach (01:34:47):
So yeah, it's going to be interesting.

Josh (01:34:49):
Okay, I may jump back on First three episodes absolute
dog water.
Yeah, because it's slow, manLike I just I don't know, I'm
not super entertained by it atthe moment.
But when you're talking aboutWoke, when you mentioned that
real quick, what did you think?
Because this was movie news thelast couple weeks what did you
think about the first timeseeing the female Silver Surfer

(01:35:10):
on that trailer for FantasticFour?
So, Julia Gardner, that'scorrect.
So she's playing Shalabal, soshe's playing a known comic book
character.
This is not a made up.
I thought this was made up.

Zach (01:35:23):
No, no, no, they're not.
They're not making Noren Radfemale.

Josh (01:35:27):
It's an actual comic character.
She's the love interest of themale.
Noren Rad.

Zach (01:35:33):
Now I will say that some people have said that have made
that comment in defense of theSilver Surfer, of being female,
and you know, I'm fine.
I'm actually agnostic about it.
I really don't give a fuck.
I don't either at this point.

(01:35:57):
But I do see both sides.
It's like, well, yeah, ifyou're going to reboot, uh,
fantastic, four into the mcu,they, you should do noren rad.
But I also I can see where.
Because he's, he's the, he'sthe 90 percent, 90 fucking nine
percent of the time he is thesilver surfer he's the one that
only one percent of time.
I think it's like six issueswhere it's it's her, it's her.

Josh (01:36:09):
Yeah, I mean even growing up the 90s.
I mean silver surfer shows up,yeah the cartoon.

Zach (01:36:13):
it's always right, it's not this.
Yeah, I mean even growing upthe 90s, I mean Silver Surfer
shows up in the cartoon.
It's always the same guy, it'snot this character.

Josh (01:36:16):
That's why I thought why wouldn't you go ahead and do
that?

Zach (01:36:18):
Right.
But I can see where they wantto depart from the early 2000s.

Josh (01:36:22):
Rightfully so, probably because those films were not
great, but it's all we have togo off of.
So I'm agnostic about it if, ifthe movie is still good, we
have we already know there'sbadass female superheroes,
villains.
I'm not, it's not, I just youknow.
Yes, as long as it's good withthe story, because so far what
I've seen I like.
I'm excited.

Zach (01:36:42):
Yes, also, I can't get past the, the, the casting.
I'm just gonna see the fuckinghick from ozark.
You ever see that show, julieGardner?

Josh (01:36:53):
I've watched a little.
Oh yeah, she's got that famousscene.
She just did the Wolfman.
Yeah, I haven't watched it yet.
It's on Peacock.

Zach (01:37:00):
She's actually a really good actress, but that's all I
can see.
Yeah, she's a lunatic.

Josh (01:37:06):
But as far as the rest of the cast for that movie and then
seeing Galactus for the firsttime on screen in a live action,
I think that's going to be cool.
It looks cool.
It looks very cool.
The whole vibe, whatever, thatwhole era, I think it looks cool
.

Zach (01:37:17):
I'm glad Galactus is going to have a body and not just a
fucking cloud.

Josh (01:37:21):
Yeah, I don't know what the fuck happened to that.

Zach (01:37:23):
That was so stupid.

Josh (01:37:25):
Yeah, no, I was curious what your opinion was on that.
I kind of assumed before Iasked you that you probably
liked me.

Zach (01:37:29):
It's like here if you're the latest theory on uh, rdj, uh
as doom.

Josh (01:37:36):
Yeah, so I leaked a picture on our well you know, on
our podcast in his suit.

Zach (01:37:41):
So they're saying and I forgot the name of it but that's
a specific variant of iron manyes, is that suit?
Yes, it is, I read it whatthere's, what the speculation is
, and even whenever it is in the.
The evidence to that leads tothis speculation is that when
they did the reveal, there wasactually a bunch of Dr Dooms oh,
okay, right out and then he wasone that walked out and he
popped off the mask and it wasright, they're trying to like

(01:38:02):
throw you off.
So right, that's what peoplethought it's like.
Oh, it's just trying to throwyou off and you didn't know.
Actually, what they're sayingis that they are ever since.
I can't think of his name, butwhoever played Kang the
Conqueror right At the end ofYou're talking about Josh.

Josh (01:38:20):
Brolin no, no, no, oh, you're talking about Kang,
you're talking about JonathanMajor.
Jonathan Major, excuse me.

Zach (01:38:25):
Of course he had the sexual assault allegation and
all this kind of stuff.

Josh (01:38:27):
So he ended up getting kicked out of the MCU Because
that was supposed to be KangDynasty, right, not Doomsday.

Zach (01:38:33):
Kang Dynasty was going to be the next Avengers movie,
right?
And that also Secret Wars.
Secret Wars is going to be theend of it.
Council of Kangs well, there'sapparently a Congress of Doom.
Yes, I've heard about this.
So what they're saying is thatthey're pivoting from Kang to
Doom variants, okay, and RDJ isjust going to be one of them.
He's not actually going to bedr doom.

(01:38:54):
I gotta be honest, that wouldbe a really cool twist.
Yes, he's not going to be themain doctor, like they're they.

Josh (01:39:01):
They showed the entire like cast I've seen it for dr
doom right so they also gaveaway some of them.

Zach (01:39:06):
And someone made this comment for thunderbolts and
said well, pretty much everybodythat's in thunderbolts is going
is also cast in doomsday,correct, except for Taskmasher,
which means in ThunderboltsTaskmasher's probably going to
die.

Josh (01:39:17):
Which I'm okay with, because I don't like that.

Zach (01:39:19):
And I also hate that they made Taskmasker a woman.

Josh (01:39:21):
That was fucking stupid.

Zach (01:39:23):
And a widow that was dumb Like an old widow.
The whole thing's terrible.
So the theory is that they'rebasically pivoting from Kang
Dynasty to Congress of Doom.
I think, it's Congress of Doom,maybe it's Council of.
Kang and Congress of Doom, Ithink, or Committee of Doom.
I'm sure it's not Committee.
That sounds very blue-collar orwhite-collar, but that's what

(01:39:46):
they're doing.
Is that RDJ?
They're still doing a trick.
They've already put the entirecast of Doomsday in there.
But you know MCU, they're goingto have secrets.
There's going to be charactersthat are going to pop up that
were not on the cast list.
You know what I'm saying.
So here's my speculation thereal Doctor Doom that we end up

(01:40:07):
having to fight we haven't seenyet.
I'd be okay with it that RDJ isjust going to be a variant and
maybe one of the primary quotevariants that's going to be in
the Congress of Doom.

Josh (01:40:19):
I think it's Congress.

Zach (01:40:20):
I'm trying to find this Congress.
Maybe it's not Congress, it'sgoing to drive me nuts.
Maybe it was council.
Parliament of Doom, parliamentof there you go, parliament.
Okay, it was UK, very, veryBritish Parliament of Doom.

Josh (01:40:37):
And dimensional charge of maintaining peace across the
multiverse.
Yes, so it was Doom created theParliament of Doom.

Zach (01:40:43):
Okay, Now what does that sound like?
That sounds like RDJ doingwhenever he did the Iron Legion.

Josh (01:40:49):
Yeah.

Zach (01:40:50):
Right that where he was trying to create this like
council to police.

Josh (01:40:54):
So would you be okay with it if they did that?
Would you be more okay with itif they're just complete?
I would be 100 because I wasnot okay with them completely
disconnecting tony stark as thisone of the greatest endings of
a character in my opinion.
And then we're like, oh well,we're just going to grab him and
put him in this one I thinkit's a sleight of hand that
they're doing.
Yeah, I hope so, and because Ithink what's happening and this

(01:41:16):
is just my thought about it Ithink what's happening is
they're trying to get back toendgame level.
I think, they're wanting tograb one of those eggs out of
that basket from when it was, Imean they were peak and try to
get back to that.
Like they're staring, they'retrying to get back.

Zach (01:41:31):
I think that I think they're trying to, and they may.
I think they're trying to drawpeople back in on the, the names
that made the MCU famous.
Uh, you know as big as it is,and if that's Robert Downey Jr,
obviously also.
You know Thor is going to be indoomsday.
They're also coming.
So is Scarlett Johansson.

Josh (01:41:51):
She is not coming back.

Zach (01:41:52):
She's not going to be in that one.

Josh (01:41:53):
She said she's dead.

Zach (01:41:54):
Right, she's toast toast, which also tells me that Gamora
is also toast toast.
I'm OK with it because they gotkilled by the Soul Stone.
So I think if you were killedin the Soul Stone trade, you're
not coming back, at least.
I like that character.

(01:42:18):
Now, gamora did the characterGamora did show back up in end
game, yeah, but then since thenI don't think so.
So, um, and that's fine, withguardians 3 they kind of they
kind of wrapped that up actuallykind of okay, kind of decently
I'm not fine with that that wemight have another epic level
film maybe, but I thought thatwas interesting.
But the fact that the way theyintroduced RDJ, as Doom was
amongst a bunch of other copiesof Doom, I kind of like where
you're at.
And then we saw the leak wherethat suit looks like an Iron man

(01:42:40):
variant suit.

Josh (01:42:41):
Even the glow.
Well, I don't know how true, Ifound that picture online and
was like and I saw it from thecredible sources so I shared it
to ours, but it did look legitand they had this whole and they
just started filming.

Zach (01:42:52):
Yeah, they had this whole plan for Kang.
So I mean, how hard would itfor them to be to pivot if they
had this whole plan for Kangwith the Council of Kangs to
just there was anotherParliament of Doom.

Josh (01:43:02):
That's already very similar.
Basically the same thing andgenuine and Doom is a.

Zach (01:43:08):
You know he's a.
He ends up becoming a god-levelentity.

Josh (01:43:12):
From what I've heard, his comics are one of the best.
His whole story arc is one ofthe best.

Zach (01:43:15):
He becomes one of the most powerful beings in all of the
MCU, or Marvel Universe.

Josh (01:43:21):
I actually am excited when I heard that it was Doom over
King.

Zach (01:43:24):
I agree.

Josh (01:43:25):
I didn't think Jonathan Majors was terrible, but I just
kind of no.

Zach (01:43:29):
I was invested in the fact that it's a cool concept.

Josh (01:43:33):
I like the idea that there was a.

Zach (01:43:35):
It's also Reed Richards' son.
Yeah.
Which is an interesting thing,but to where he becomes a super
genius and just a normal guythat ends up amassing power
because he's super smart and heends up fighting off all of his
variants in order to stabilize.
You know, like there was adifferent ones that had the, the
, what was the?

(01:43:56):
Um, the, the one that was inthe loki, or what did he call
himself?
I forgot that king.
He called himself a specificname.
I can't remember I don'tremember, but he was the one
that was like keeping all theother kings at bay yeah, right,
not the watcher.
He was caught something anyways,yeah but then there was one
particular king that was likethe baddest of them all, yeah,

(01:44:18):
and that was the jonathan majors.
When we saw in um, um, quantamania, yep right, that was
trapped, and that's the reasonwhy they trapped him.
So there's a you know infinitenumber of other kings and they
had the council of kings.
At the end, one looked like afucking egyptian and the other
one was like this robot lookingthing.
It was like it was crazy looking, yeah, um, so I really like
that, that idea of that it'sneat, it's big world, it's big

(01:44:40):
problem you know it's cool.
Yes, so I kind of they.
They've got to figure out thismultiverse thing, yeah, and tie
it up, because you can't keep,once you go to that, that where
do you go?
Tom Hiddleston's character'scoming back yeah, 100%, loki
will be back Again.
I go back to the MCU on Disney+.

(01:45:00):
That's the only one that wasworth a fuck was.

Josh (01:45:03):
Loki.
That was a great show and theending, the last episode of that
, was so cool.
But he's such a good actor whenhe's literally holding the
multiverse together.
Did you see where there's arumor and I shared it on our
page too where and I think it'sconcept, but it would be
fantastic, before we get to doit, to say somebody wanted to do
a television show on DisneyPlus to show Steve Rogers going

(01:45:24):
back and putting the stones back.
Yes, I saw that.
I think that would be fantastic.
If they fantastic, if they didlike a did, give me quick, they
could, they could do like well,they didn't have to do a stone
episode.

Zach (01:45:36):
They could do like a.
Uh well, they could do like alittle.
You know, straight to tv movie.

Josh (01:45:39):
You do a special like how cool would that be?
Yeah, and they showed pictures.
Somebody like edited inpictures of where he would be.
But like how wild to see allthat happen, like because he had
to put them back.
Yeah, and he did put them backand then fucked off with his
wife and came back.
Like that's huge.
Like I don't think peoplerealize what he went and did,
because I had to research itmyself.

(01:46:00):
Like you just see him like snapout and then he comes back.
But it's like dude, he lived awhole nother life, yeah, after
putting all that back yeah, solike obviously there's some
interactions that would be superinteresting the red skull, the
red skull, that whole thing.

Zach (01:46:13):
You imagine, because you imagine like, um, it was um, the
only people that went to uhvormir were um thanos gomorrah,
who died right, and hawkeye,hawkeye and uh natasha, they
ended up dying too.
So the only person that cameback that's still living was
Hawkeye.
But do you think he knew that?

(01:46:38):
He told Cap he was like oh, bythe way, it's Red Skull.
No, he probably just thoughtthere was like he didn't know
who Red Skull was.
Necessarily he didn't know,especially the way he looked
with the robe and everythinglike that that was.

Josh (01:46:49):
Red.

Zach (01:46:49):
Skull.
So I'm saying it's like Steve.
Imagine Steve shows up toVormir to return the stone and
he's like oh, fuck, I waswondering what happened to you,
holy shit.

Josh (01:46:58):
Yeah, dude, I don't know.
I think it'd be a great show.

Zach (01:47:00):
It'd be great.
I would want to watch it justfor that interaction alone.

Josh (01:47:04):
Just that, and then just watching him put all those At a
specific time.

Zach (01:47:08):
Yep, and then other things , other interactions.
That I think would be cool isif he went back and he talked to
Howard Stark, because he wentback to the 70s and 60s or
whatever, to get the Space Stone.
And the Tesseract was in thatfacility, so he would probably
run to Howard Stark, which wouldbe interesting.
That would be an interestinglittle thing, I don't know how.
He ends up talking to the.

(01:47:31):
I'm spacing on her name.

Josh (01:47:33):
The Grand, the Grand.

Zach (01:47:36):
The Sorcerer Supreme before.

Josh (01:47:38):
Strange the ball-headed chick.

Zach (01:47:39):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, because she also knows a
bunch of shit, right?

Josh (01:47:43):
I don't know, dude, maybe they'll make it.
I mean, we've got time beforeDoomsday.
You could fill it in for fun.

Zach (01:47:49):
I could see that being very much like Kenobi, the
Kenobi show Hopefully better,but it filled in a gap.
It does Yep, it scratches anitch?

Josh (01:48:00):
Yeah, For sure.
Just to answer some questions.
It's filler.
It'd be a great filler If youcast it right just make it
happen.
Yeah, do it right, do it right,do it right.
Yeah, I agree.
Oh, this is a Sinners movie weneed to go see.
Yeah, I know, dude, I've seenthe clip and it does have a very
cool Tarantino kind of vibe.

Zach (01:48:18):
That's what I've heard.
It looks cool.
I've heard the music with thestory somehow ties together and
it's really good.

Josh (01:48:23):
I've heard this, though, from comedians to movie critics,
to other celebrities.

Zach (01:48:28):
They're all like.
It's awesome I've I recentlysaw today is that somebody
watched the Senators and waslike Haley Steinfeld is the
hottest woman on the planet inthis movie, apparently.

Josh (01:48:37):
Yeah, so we've all seen the clip where she was telling
Michael B Jordan that wild assshit, I'm like oh.
She said you're drooling.
She's like do you want some?
I'm like, fuck lady, I need togo see this movie.
Of course, the other scenewhere she's out in the street
and she tells him you knowwhatever, and tells him off.
I can't repeat what she said.
Just look it up, people.
Yeah cause I'll butcher it.

Zach (01:48:58):
She says like an old timey word for pussy.
She says it, but it's stillsexy.
Yeah, my coos my coos, youstuck your tongue in my coos and
and gone with the wind they donot say the coos, there's not
any sex and gone with the wind.

Josh (01:49:15):
Just assume that they're.
It's a lot of horned up people,but like it's yeah, dude, I
don't know that's, I do want tosee it uh, yeah, we'll
definitely.

Zach (01:49:24):
Uh, we need to have a bro date.
We haven't actually gone andseen a movie in a while we just
go see a bunch of shit yeah,even if it was good or not, we
really need to make an effort,especially since we're doing a
fucking well movie podcast, wedo need to do that.

Josh (01:49:35):
Well, maybe that's one we'll see, but in my opinion,
there hasn't been a lot of stuffthat's really grabbed me.
There just hasn't been likethese.
I do want to go seethunderbolts in theaters oh I do
.
I do want to see that one.
I need to make a point, I don'tknow.
We just kind of died off.
It comes out May 5th.
We used to go all the time Fuck.
I remember back in like 2010,2009,.
We used to like do doublefeatures.
Oh yeah, dude had a list of themonth for the movies.

Zach (01:49:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, we had a schedule.

Josh (01:49:59):
We'll see the Thunderbolts , for sure.
We're also going to, we'regoing to.
We've got some ideas too aboutthat for everybody.

Zach (01:50:06):
All right, Come up with, and we don't have to commit to
it.
But just if there's anything Medo one for May.

Josh (01:50:13):
Yeah, we need to see a month of May.
All right, what do we need towatch?
I can do it.

Zach (01:50:17):
I'll get something drawn up for May Even if we can't go
at the same time, I'll go solowhenever I can, yeah.

Josh (01:50:30):
If we can't sync up, I think Thunderbolts is, for sure,
one we need to see.
Yeah, 100% Big time.
And then Sinners I want to tryto get.
If I don't catch Sinners intheaters, we'll definitely
discuss it when we stream it,yeah.
Yeah, I've got some movies tocheck out this week, some old
movies.
I'll do that tour again.
And there's not really.
May looks good.

(01:50:50):
There's Murderbots coming toApple Plus, so I want to watch
it.
Yeah.

Zach (01:50:55):
I'll watch that.
I'm getting Electric Statevibes out of that one because of
the.
I think it's going to be better.
I think it will be better, butI don't know.

Josh (01:51:04):
It looks a little goofy We've got as far as TV shows, I
don't know what we've got.
I'll double check.

Zach (01:51:11):
There wasn't anything that was my big kind of like thing.
There's some stuff coming inMay.

Josh (01:51:16):
I should have had a better idea of it.
It's my fault and I'll havetime to update my list of what's
coming out in May.

Zach (01:51:21):
Yeah.

Josh (01:51:21):
Maybe I'll start bringing that to the end of the show.

Zach (01:51:23):
It's already come out.
I need to catch myself up withit maids tale it did come out,
uh, like a fucking four year.
Hey, I got into that.
Pretty good, that is some wildshit.
Oh yeah, dude.
So I definitely um, yeah, welast left it like, uh, um, like
mortal enemies were like teamingup to go into gilead again,
like I was that whole.

(01:51:44):
And then, all of a sudden, theseason didn't, just didn't come,
just didn't come out.
I was like this show getfucking canceled.
And all of a sudden, nowthey're, they're wrapping that
that that is a wild show.

Josh (01:51:52):
I remember when I said I mean season one, it just can't.
It's that whole concept wasjust.
I was resistant to watchingthat whole thing.
I was too.

Zach (01:51:59):
I was too, and her she gets on my nerves a little bit
outside, but she does a greatjob on that show and I did not
like her in Mad Men, which Ithink, where she kind of got her
start because she's justannoying and kind of mousy and
fucking weird and whiny but shedoes a good job in this, but

(01:52:21):
she's really good in this oneplaying June or Alfred is really
good, and so I was resistant towatch it because the left took
it over and was thinking thateverybody was trying to.
Everyone on the right wastrying to make Gilead happen, or
whatever everybody in thesefucking handmade robes
exhausting all that sounded.
It's just so stupid so Ithought it was going to be like

(01:52:43):
super political and like superfeminist bullshit when I was
watching it, but it's reallyreally not.
No, they not until I would saynot until way later season.
There's maybe a couple sceneswhere I'm like, okay, give it a
rest, but uh, but they don'tbash you over the head with it
and I appreciate that.
Uh, if any.
If there is some political,kind of, you know, feminist

(01:53:05):
vibes that's going on in thatshow.
It's subtle, it's, you know, butit makes sense to the story
it's undertones, but it doesn'tmake sense to the story of
what's happening and actually,truth be told, it's actually a
pro-motherhood movie.
Yeah, it's actually a pro-lifemovie.

Josh (01:53:19):
It really is Our show.
Yeah, it's got that undertonefor sure.

Zach (01:53:21):
You know what I mean, even the main character.

Josh (01:53:36):
There's only one character .
I can't remember her name, butshe has the eye missing eye,
yeah I know you're talking aboutshe's great, I can't.

Zach (01:53:39):
She's kind of crazy, yeah, so they they do a flashback of
her and it was very pro-abortionkind of episode yep, I remember
and so you know, that was theonly time where it was like kind
of beat you over the head alittle bit, but it made sense to
the plot, but it made sense forthe character in this plot and
it actually was fine.
So you know, people on theright that you know boycott shit
.
Because you think it is onething, just fucking watch it.

Josh (01:53:56):
If it's good.
It's good, it's a good showlike you know, there's someone.

Zach (01:54:00):
I listen to a podcast and he makes this kind of point.
He's like.
He's like I don't want to stopthe the left from making movies
and shows, but I want the rightto do more of them and we need
to have more of it all.

Josh (01:54:12):
Everybody needs to.
Yeah, that's what film's about.
Yeah.

Zach (01:54:14):
It's a reflection of storytelling Storytelling- Tell
good fucking stories.
I don't care if it's right,left, center, if you're blue,
you're purple.
Who gives a fuck?
Exactly right, I'll respectwatching the movies.

Josh (01:54:23):
I might be really missing out on some good things, like
I'm not.
I'm sorry, I'm not doing that.
Yeah, did you see that they gota trailer for Wednesday season
two?
Did you watch Wednesday?
Yeah, yeah, it was fun there'sa show to try a quick teaser for

(01:54:47):
it things obviously is the bigthing coming.
It was looming dude, right I'vebeen patient, I know I've been
fucking patient and I'm tired ofwaiting.

Zach (01:54:56):
It's october, november it's coming I know that that's
uh, that's coming, that'slooming to an end, but uh, yeah,
I know finalizing it here, um,but yeah, I don't.
I can't think of anythingthat's like big andrew was.
For me was the kind of the bigone, big show, yeah because 1923
just closed up, so thatseason's done we already had
some of the other big ones likeseverance.
Season two was huge for me.

(01:55:18):
They said we're not gonna haveto wait two or three years after
, so we'll see right, we alreadyhad house of the dragon season
two while back, so like uh, Idon't know, might be in a little
bit of a drought well, we're inthat transition between spring
and summer, so our summer hitsare about to fire up in May.

Josh (01:55:31):
So we're about to get our big summer hit movies and then
we'll get a few fall.
But then Christmas time isusually when shit fires up too.

Zach (01:55:38):
In the meantime this is outside of live action, but we
had solo leveling, yep sololeveling was good.
End of season, two Season two.
Finalizing was fucking awesomeyeah.

Josh (01:55:48):
I told you it was good.
I'm still on my Studio G movies.
That B-Row fight Was fuckingawesome.
I finished my Some more StudioG movies.

Zach (01:55:56):
They're all kids movies.
You know what?
I'd rather watch those andcatch up on those Than fucking
Cosmic.

Josh (01:56:00):
Vodka.
I've watched about 15 of them.
I can let you know which ones II give high praise If you
haven't seen them.

Zach (01:56:08):
I'll probably watch in order that they came out.

Josh (01:56:11):
That's what I'm doing, I think that's what I'm going to
do.
One of them you'll hate.
It's got the worst ratings.
It's called Tales of Mercy.
It's terrible Sounds terrible.
It's awful Great voice castJust terrible.
It's the worst one I've seenout of all of them so far, and
he's got some wild time.
It's weird.

Zach (01:56:29):
This is going to be like a staple of the fucking podcast.

Josh (01:56:32):
I don't know why he only does it when we're in here.

Zach (01:56:34):
I don't know.
I never see him do that.
He doesn't do that in front ofme.
I don't catch him doing it.
It's only when we're doing thisfucking podcast that he sits in
the doorway and starts lookingon his wiener and humping his
toys, so I didn't know if youwanted to do in person or over
the phone.
I mean over the phone, wouldprobably just be easier to do.

Josh (01:56:53):
I mean, I was going to give them the choice.

Zach (01:56:55):
It don't matter, it's your space, it's whatever you want
to do, we'll talk about itoffline.
Yeah, yeah.

Josh (01:56:59):
I don't know why I said that let's have the discussion
now with everybody.
Yeah, right.

Zach (01:57:17):
Bring you into our worry.
If you're like, if I'm not yourcup of tea, you just want to do
a phone call, then that's finetoo.
I'll accept that.

Josh (01:57:22):
Yeah, but it's not okay don't fucking say that you can't
bash the host.
Yeah, no we're in, the cooleryou can look.
You just walk by you can look.

Zach (01:57:31):
Yeah, uh, the walk by, you can look, yeah, the teacher
conversation.
I'm going to have to do thatwith the phone just because I
may antagonize.

Josh (01:57:35):
Oh yeah, she's excited about that one.
Dude, she's excited about thatone.
The person might get a littletesty, I think she said she's
like I'm going to have to bringa PowerPoint.

Zach (01:57:54):
I was like, oh fuck, it needs to be a full episode.
I said this before.

Josh (01:57:54):
My opinion on this is not really People misrepresent my
opinion, Dude, it may be betterin person to be, honest, maybe I
may have to just watch and justlet Delph fucking go after it,
because I'm not going to haveanything in that fucking opinion
.
I think it would probably be.

Zach (01:58:06):
Truthfully, who knows how it's going to go?
But truthfully I think if itwas a good faith conversation
and we're having the sameconversation, I'm not having one
conversation and the otherperson's having another
conversation.
I'm just talking past eachother.
If it's not like that, then Ithink it would actually be very
quick.
Here's what I think it wouldprobably come down to.
It's like well, that's youropinion.

Josh (01:58:29):
It'd be like I agree to disagree.

Zach (01:58:30):
Well, that's your opinion.
It'd be like I was like I agreeto disagree.
Well, that's like your opinion,man.
Yeah, it was like whatever man.

Josh (01:58:35):
It's, yeah, it'll be quick , It'd be fun.

Zach (01:58:36):
I think it'd be fun.
I don't think it'd be a longdrawn out fight thing.

Josh (01:58:45):
No, no, no.
I think it'll be fun, and onlyreally the fun part.
And then like bring, I thinkthat'll be cool.
Yeah, yeah, oh engage wants tocome back on too.

Zach (01:58:54):
Okay, so it will work something out.
Uh yeah, we need like a fuckingJamie to schedule all this shit
.
Actually, not even Joe didn'teven have Jamie.

Josh (01:59:02):
I can do it.
Schedule his own shit, I can doit?
Um, yeah, we just need to letme you do all the other
technical stuff.
I can handle this Okie doke.
That's all I got man.
I think that's a good spot Allright, well, send us off, yeah,
so.
You have 45 seconds before wehit two hours, If you can send
me or send the Instagram,message me movies that you guys

(01:59:22):
would like for us to watch.
It can be, I don't care what itis, one of us will watch it.
I have time to watch whatevery'all send.
So send me whatever you want.
It can be movies, televisionshows, whatever, I don't care
what you're there from and thenlet me know and I'll spot them
on the show and I don't have totell you, like, who sent it to
me, I'll just put you know aperson, a guest, sent it to me.
So, yeah, like, follow,subscribe, share.

(01:59:44):
You can do three, five, sevenor ten.
Uh, the money will just go backinto our show and have those
prime numbers.
Yeah, that's how they do.
It's so weird how they do that,I don't know, uh.
But yeah, uh, any comments onour stuff, the reels, uh, send
me whatever you want.
Message the instagram, I'm onit every day.
Um, if there's something you'dlike to see on the show, we're

(02:00:06):
going to be doing some livestuff here soon, especially when
we go see the movies.
We're going to do, like, somespecials that we've got in mind
for that.
So that'll be really fun.
I'm pretty excited about thatas well.
So, but, yeah, appreciate it,peace.

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