#77 - Audition Boner - The Infinite Weekend Podcast

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Zach (00:01):
Hey, welcome to the Infinite Weekend Podcast,
episode 7-7.
This is Zach Josh.
What's up?

Josh (00:08):
What'd you say?
What episode?
7-7.
I thought you said 7-7.
I'm like have we done that many?
My God, Where's the money it'sgoing to take us?

Zach (00:16):
three years to get to triple digits.

Josh (00:19):
Probably At our pace.
Probably there's been a lot ofshit come up lately, man, yeah,
that's true, like sickness, Iknow, dude, my house has been
crazy On-call sickness.

Zach (00:28):
It's been legit been the worst year for allergies for me.

Josh (00:31):
It has been Dude.
Kylie and her both right nowhave got shit going on.
It's not good.

Zach (00:35):
I got sick six weeks ago and I haven't really recovered.

Josh (00:39):
I, and it was the day after my birthday, I think, and
then I got like I went and test,rode a bunch of motorcycles,
which was awesome, but I gotback and, like you know, you get
that itch in your throat Likeyou're like no, something's on
its way, dude the next day likea truck like I'd swallowed glass

(00:59):
in my sleep, yep.
So I went to the doctor becauseto get stuff for work case.
I you know I was, did you havesomething?
And they were like no, youdon't have anything yep, they're
like, um, this might be viral.
I'm like, okay.
So I went home and I did one ofthose things that I've never
done, where I just sit on thecouch all day yeah like I went
to the bathroom and I ate when Ican and I just sat on the couch

(01:19):
all day and watched movies.
Yeah, now I know why they sayyou should do that a couple of
times a month for just yourwellbeing.
It's awesome Not doing afucking thing and not having
anywhere to be.
Yeah, just, and it's okay.
It was all right.
I think I needed it more than Ithought.
Yep, and it's so much.

Zach (01:35):
It's so much more satisfying when it's like up
this time I was like dude, youain't got nothing that can't
wait till tomorrow.

Josh (01:50):
Right, I just submerged in my couch exactly it was cool.
I don't want not all the timeno, not every day.

Zach (01:58):
No, it's like, you know, it's like uh, self-care, you
know.
I mean you gotta do it everyonce in a while it is widely, I
don't I don't do it, but I hearyou know you have a good cry
every once in a while.
I've done a lot right.
The last, same kind of thingsit on your ass every once in a
while.

Josh (02:10):
I had a power weep, probably almost two months ago,
and it like you, like you wereflexing yeah, like forcing it
out it like usually, when Iwould have, like my anger
outburst, I'd look for otherthings to make me more angry or
angry.
Is it angry or I'm more angry?
Is it angrier?
Angrier you?
Sure the angry?
Yeah, either way, um, I wouldlook for stuff to like keep it

(02:32):
going.
When I got, like, in theweepathon, I would look for
other things to make me sad itwas, or I'd stir up things I
kept in a little box that nevershared and I just let them.
Let them rip yeah and it feelsgood, it feels tremendous.
I recommend any of you menfolk,if you got some shit you want
to cry about, if you gotta do itby alone or whatever, do it.
It's growth I'll take yourreport.

Zach (02:54):
Uh, I just never felt so inclined.

Josh (02:57):
I'm not saying I haven't you got to humanize it, man
we're always as dudes, we'realways like keep it, keep it
suppressed and in a tight boxand be a fucking man Like no
dude.
You end up imploding.

Zach (03:08):
See, I think I'm guilty.
I think I'll end up taking it.
You implode.
I think I'll take the Bill Burrapproach.
You had that good cry years agoin the street.
Yeah, I was hammered.
Yeah, but either way, that's,they's my true self.
Then I was.
When I'm drunk, then I'm aweeping little bitch.

Josh (03:29):
That's not true.
I've been around you drunk.
We're fun as fuck.

Zach (03:32):
That didn't get laid right .
So that's my true self.

Josh (03:35):
Hey man, I mean, if you were that emotional about not me
getting laid and you keptpushing it away and suppressing
it, have I told that story onthis podcast?
We to the kept pushing it awayand suppressing it.
We have had a whole episode.

Zach (03:45):
It's good shit, that's, it's still crazy.

Josh (03:48):
Still sad about it.
He still apologized yeah.

Zach (03:50):
Yeah, it's so funny it's still like a running joke or
whatever.
When I, when they like, hey,you should go talk to the girl,
I'm like what's the point?

Josh (04:07):
B's just going to jump in there and steal her all the time
.
That's true.
He needs to relax with that.
He's like a lion that waits for, like the injured fawns.
And yeah right, wait for thatone.

Zach (04:10):
Yeah, exactly right that would just break its ankle it's
like it's like we all.
It's like we unintentionally,like planned is like all right,
I'll be this, what's gonnahappen?
I'm gonna go in there and I'mgonna creep her out and you're
gonna come in and save, be theknight in shining armor and save
her from this creep.
That is me.
It's like we we don't plan it,but it's like we planned it.

Josh (04:26):
Yeah, it's an assist right , yeah, but I just don't know
claiming the kill right, you'renot exactly.

Zach (04:31):
He's making the shot.

Josh (04:33):
What a dick oh my god oh, what I was telling you about.
I was going to bring up thatI've seen recently and an influx
of it.
It just angers me is the peoplepushing their dogs and
strollers.
So it was Mother's Day.
It gets on my fucking nerves.

Zach (04:49):
It was Mother's Day Sunday .
Oh, you saw this, yeah, right,and so I'm with you on this, and
I think this is in the samevein is I absolutely can't stand
two phrases during this time ofyear.
I know.

Josh (05:01):
I like it.

Zach (05:03):
I thought about this today .
Two phrases piss me the fuckoff, Do it.
Dog mom and fur babies.

Josh (05:08):
Okay, For one.
The dog mom.
You're not a mom.
You're not a fuck mom.
Sorry, I have a child and Ihave a dog.
I like my dog a lot.
It is nothing compared to beingyou're full of shit.
You're in your own little weirdculture that I don't understand
Fur baby.

(05:29):
I can bite at that a little bit.
That doesn't irk me as bad assomeone who says these are my
children.

Zach (05:36):
I guess that's what it's in reference.
When they say fur baby, it's inreference to that's my baby.
Or when someone says so you gotany kids?
That's not your baby.

Josh (05:44):
Just say no.
No, because they're asking youif you have little humans, as in
children.
Not no, but I have these dogs.
That's not what I asked you,bitch, see when I say that's not
what I asked you.

Zach (05:55):
See, when people ask me that question, they say you got
any kids?
I say it because it's funny,not because I'm trying to be
like serious, but that's arunning joke.

Josh (06:05):
This is a running joke.
Most people have a cat as theirsingle Right.
Same with a woman Never feltthe touch of a man, she has four
cats Right.

Zach (06:11):
Exactly.
So I'm leaning into that joke.
But like when other people likewomen, I mean let's just say it
.

Josh (06:18):
I'm not going to sugarcoat it.

Zach (06:20):
Women do this shit and they say you know, they ask that
question.
You got any kids Like oh no,I've got a Yorkie and I've got a
.

Josh (06:28):
That's not what I ask.

Zach (06:29):
That's not what I ask I don't care, give a fuck about
your pets.
Yeah, I don't care.
You know what I mean.
They're serious.

Josh (06:37):
The way I treat that is just like I'm doing.
It Is that dude's.
He was the one that's divorcedone of his sisters now.

Zach (06:42):
Scott Scott I love.

Josh (06:43):
Whenever she's like you want something to drink, she was
like well, I've been trying to.
He was like I don't want yourlife story.
Do you want something?

Zach (06:47):
to drink or not.
I just want something to drink,yes or no?

Josh (06:57):
Like.
That is how I feel about itwhen they're like well, I've got
yeah, and he's like if you guyslose.

Zach (07:00):
He was right Most of the time.
It was funny.

Josh (07:01):
He was right.

Zach (07:04):
I would watch the show just to watch him.
So I just want to watch clipsof him.
It's funny.

Josh (07:07):
Yeah, I don't.
I've been this shit with.
They push them in a stroller, Ijust yeah.
Like how low do you got to get?

Zach (07:12):
Like I mean so yeah, ladies, don't.
If it's mother's day, you donot get to celebrate Mother's
Day.
Do not participate in Mother'sDay.

Josh (07:28):
Send a nice message and a gift to your own fucking mother
and shut up and happy, lateMother's Day to all the moms
that listen Shout out Agreed thereal ones.

Zach (07:35):
Well, what did you do for Mother's Day?

Josh (07:38):
Oh, we had brunch at my folks' house.
Siblings came over, we didcards.
Kylie and I don't do gifts onMother's or Father's.
Day, it's just cards.
I honestly think both of themare bullshit holidays.
Unless you don't speak to yourparents, that's the one time you
get to shine, but I talk to myparents regularly and then Kylie

(07:58):
and I are just like.
We just think it's a commercial.
It's just a bullshit pressuredholiday.
I appreciate her being themother of my daughter.
we just think it's a commercial,it's just a bullshit pressured
holiday I you know I appreciateher being the mother of my
daughter, but like I don't, I dothings throughout the year.
We don't.
I don't need one day.
She does things for me for theyear.
So, like birthdays, yes, I dogifts and stuff for Christmas
the main stuff but Valentine'sday, mother's day, father Day,

(08:20):
all those are bullshit in myopinion.

Zach (08:22):
I love that, you know, I love that I know I think it's
stupid.

Josh (08:24):
You went out to dinner with us one time for Valentine's
.
Day we don't take it thatserious.
I forgot about that.
I think twice yeah.
It's one thing when you're young, valentine's Day is exciting
because you're trying to impressthe lady, you're trying to have
sex.

Zach (08:39):
It's a thing when you're a young man, oh when you're a
young man, but, like I don'tknow, oh yeah, Well, you do it
at a young man because it givesyou first of all, it's expected.

Josh (08:50):
That's true.

Zach (08:50):
There is pressure, that is true, but if you rise to the
occasion, then it does give youan opportunity to really put on
the moves and impress orwhatever, and you can get some
good return.

Josh (09:05):
Well, not only that, it's also a time too.
If you're the woman too, it'stime for them to get lingerie,
be sexy, that's what I mean.

Zach (09:11):
Exactly right, that's what I'm saying.

Josh (09:12):
So it's a two-way street.
I mean now it's, you know,hoodies and sweatpants, and you
know, Special occasion.
You Maybe Maybe Back in the day, maybe.

Zach (09:22):
Like on a normal Tuesday you can't make that request, but
Valentine's Day you might beable to.
Yeah, it's like hold up.
Right, I'm like it's only oneday of the year I paid the
mortgage, all right.

Josh (09:31):
I took you to your favorite restaurant.

Zach (09:33):
I did all these things Like come on.

Josh (09:36):
You got fries.
You got fries and a tea, butthat's all we did.
What did?

Zach (09:42):
y'all do.
Well, my mom's one request isshe wanted all of her children
to go to church where they're inthe morning.
So we went and I had a.
Let me just give you thatlittle experience real quick.
I haven't gone in a while,mostly just because it's just I
don't like the environment.

Josh (10:00):
Last time we went, last time we did yeah we talked about
it.

Zach (10:05):
I'm just not a fan like the environment.
You went last time we did.

Josh (10:07):
Yeah, we talked about it, I'm just not a fan of the
environment.
It's usually forced and awkwardor too ceremonial.

Zach (10:11):
It's sterile, it's like I don't know any of these people.
I don't really.

Josh (10:13):
We do it at home, yeah.

Zach (10:18):
It's not like I don't get religious things.
You know spiritual things.
You know, it's it under a treethat's what I'm saying, and so I
I just not, I'm not a big fanof like the religiosity or like
the you know uh, religion inkyeah I got, you know, I mean so
anyway.
So I went though um and um.
First of all, I you know I haveall these allergies, or
whatever.
I just I could.

(10:39):
I didn't.
I was late because I was havinga fucking coughing fit in my
truck in the parking lot?

Josh (10:43):
you don't want to think you're being overcome by it.
Well, I didn't want to get in.

Zach (10:46):
Yeah, exactly everybody like he's.
We found one.
Get him, you know exactly, poursome water on him come on, drag
him down, come on up.
Yeah, exactly, um, you knowwell, it's just, you know,
awkward.
I'm over there hacking up alung and everyone's like shut
the fuck up.

Josh (10:57):
We're trying to learn about jesus if they say that
that's church you want to be.

Zach (11:00):
These are my people right so got a great sense of humor in
here, so I had to like calmdown and get it all out, and
then, first, first thing, I likeget out immediately.
I had been into a churchparking lot even the parking lot
.
They got a security guard inlike years and as soon as I

(11:21):
opened the door, I hit the carnext to me.
So I'm like, oh fuck, what do Ido?
I closed my door and I moved toanother spot.

Josh (11:29):
You can't lie in a church parking lot.

Zach (11:30):
I straight up did I straight up, moved to another
spot, I'm just like.
I'm not having thisconfrontation Because I know
what happened.
I come out at the same exacttime.
You probably didn't even noticeit.

Josh (11:45):
I rubbed it out.

Zach (11:45):
It will come out just fine .
Yeah, but like it's just, itwasn't that big of a deal, it
wasn't like a big dent, I wouldgo all the way by the tree, like
I ain't got it in the buildingyet, I'm already like sinning.
You know what I mean?
Oh yeah, and you're a liar, andI'm a liar.
Right, you need to be there.
Needed to another space, sothat wasn't a great start.
Anyway, I get in there and itwas fine.

(12:05):
Default normal service.
It tied it in with Mother's Dayand all this kind of stuff.
Also, I'm not big into thesinging.
I don't sing normally.
So, why would I sing a song thatI don't know?
That, yeah, just becauseeverybody else does.
It's kind of depressingsounding.
Sure, it does not upbeat.
It's usually like I don't know.

Josh (12:26):
It's like do you want to get?
Do you want to sing it realquick?
No, I can't.

Zach (12:30):
So you know what I mean, but, um you know, there it's
almost like, um I know to that,sorry, sue me, you gotta be
sorry, um, this is our show,right, so it's just not my, not
my bag, uh, so I just standthere and just observe, right,

(12:50):
and so also me, being kind of apeople watcher like I spent a
lot of time doing that place todo like sitting in the back so I
can just like scope out orwhatever I know what you're
looking for.

Josh (12:58):
Uh, yeah, and it was tuned up.

Zach (13:01):
That's all I can say, and so that was my.
We get out.
First of all, my dad leans overto me.
He gets up randomly and just Ithink maybe runs off the
bathroom.
He gets up and just beelinesfor the door.
I'm like all right, well, therehe goes when he comes back, and
then it's getting toward the endand if you've ever been to a

(13:21):
Protestant uh service, it has apretty much generic formula
every time.
They do like the worshipservice in the very beginning to
where it's like singing, andusually it's like a group thing,
and then they'll have like asingle singer that does like his
own, like a solo song orwhatever, and then you have the,
the uh sermon right, and thenat the very end of the sermon he

(13:42):
has the called the invitation.
Yeah, right, invitation to tocome down to the altar or
whatever.
Yeah, and everybody, andthere's multiple praying
sessions in between.
Um, so right before theinvitation was about to come, my
dad leans over to me.
He says uh, says uh, I'mgetting real, uh, and of course
he's, he's losing his hearing alittle bit.
Yeah, so he has does not havethe capacity to whisper.
He can't whisper yeah, it's,it's awesome.

(14:04):
So when he leans in to try towhisper, he's like so, imagine
him like leaning in.
He just goes hey, I'm like, hey, keep it down.

Josh (14:13):
Whisper, whisper, we're not outside dude.

Zach (14:16):
Exactly, people can hear you, right?
And he's like I'm getting realantsy, I'm going to go, I don't
think I'm gonna come back.
Watch, bring my Bible wheneveryou guys leave and I'm like I
can just take it with you.
I was like okay, and he gets upand leaves and we don't see him
again and, uh, he's got hisBible sitting next to me, which

(14:36):
is also that thing needs to belike recovered.

Josh (14:38):
It's like in tatters oh, I'm sure he's got like notes,
notes in it.

Zach (14:42):
Yeah, it's like he lived in a cave for three years with
it, or something.

Josh (14:45):
Probably did.

Zach (14:47):
And he'd come out alive.
I think it was like a firstedition, you know, like the old
testament was written.

Josh (14:54):
It was one of them, yeah.

Zach (14:56):
So anyway, so finish out the service, we go out there.

Josh (15:03):
Did you get his Bible for him?
Yeah, I brought it with me.

Zach (15:05):
So, yeah, Now it looks like it's mine and I'm the one
with the ratty Bible.
Well, you just take good notes.

Josh (15:10):
I guess that's true.
You're a believer.

Zach (15:12):
Actually, there was a lady that was sitting across from me
and she was feverishly takingnotes and me being me and I know
you would probably do the samething, probably.
As I look over, I'm like, uh, I, I like in my mind, I was like
gesturing I would wanted to goover to her and be like, hey, uh
, you better get this.

Josh (15:29):
It's gonna be on the final yeah you know, I mean end of
the week it's a 80 percent agree.
You might not make it like youthink that's gonna save you
right, exactly, and then justwalk off yeah, right, exactly so
my mind was racing like why areyou taking notes?
I don't understand Also what hewas saying or you want to walk
over and be like can I copy youRight?

Zach (15:50):
exactly.
Yeah, it's like, what was thatpart I missed it.
Yeah, we share notes.
Did he say Satan or Beelzebub,which?

Josh (15:59):
one did he say I dropped my crayon?

Zach (16:02):
Right, that's what I should have done.
I should have pulled out a bigass, fucking marker yeah, it's
like.
I'm taking notes too.
You know it was odd, but anyway, because I'm a people watcher
and I have these, I observethings you saw some women and I
have these dumb, these dumbthoughts.
There was a, there was one inparticular that I I was just
keyed in on the whole time.
It was distracting for one.

(16:22):
Anyway, we leave.
I get out into the foyer afterthe invitation is over, the
service is over and people arepiling out.
I'm actually just kind ofwaiting because we're looking to
find out where the fuck my dadwent.
It turns out he left thebuilding and was going back
toward the car.
I was down the street orwhatever, I don't know, because

(16:45):
he was restless whatever thatmeans um, but uh, so we're just
watching people pile out and I,you know, I'm at church, but I,
I guess that's because I haven'tbeen in a while.
And uh, this is a bigger church, it's.
You know, it's hilldale justdown the street and uh, my god,
these women were dressed sluttyfor church.
Yeah, and it was I.

(17:07):
It was just.
I mean, I appreciate my eyes,appreciate it, of course, like
thank you, of course, but also Iwas like time and place.
Well, I don't know, what areyou doing here?

Josh (17:15):
There's been a massive influx in dress for women and I
don't know how old anybody is,so I have to look for an
engagement ring or a weddingring or a tattoo to kind of keep
me semi-safe.
Because I do look.
I can't help it.

Zach (17:29):
Especially at the gym.
I'm not saying they got todress Amish, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm not saying but this shitwas like in a skin, tight like
fucking onesie.
It was awesome, wasn't it?

Josh (17:39):
Yes, and I'm the imagination don't go on
marketplace and look formotorcycles, because moms are
selling their daughters promdresses with pictures of them in
them and I don't know whatgrade these people are in or but
the times have changed since Ihad prom.
I can tell you that on the, thestyle of dress, oh my gosh,
like everything is skin tight,super short, deep cut, like full

(18:02):
, full on cleave.
I'm like fuck man.

Zach (18:06):
I remember one of her.
I went to prom twice, Went tomine and then I went to my
girlfriend's because she was agrade younger than me.
I was stud I remember I thinkboth times, I think the girl I
took to mine.
That was a whole shittysituation.

(18:27):
I actually had a crush on herand she yeah.
I had a crush on her and shewas a twin.

Josh (18:36):
She was the hot twin.

Zach (18:37):
Right, nice Well, I guess maybe to me, I don't know
they're twins.
There's always one that looks alittle different and she was
the one that I was attracted toand, uh, had a crush on her and,
um, it turns out like I thoughtthat there was like some
reciprocal reciprocation there,or whatever there wasn't no she
really just wanted to go to prom.

(18:58):
She was a saw, I think she was.
I think she was a sophomore.
I think she was a sophomore yeahand uh, and of course I was a
senior and uh, she, um, uh, justwanted to go to prom because
her sister had a boyfriend whowas also going to prom, oh.
And so she just wanted to go toprom and so she kind of used me
to get to prom and so flirtedwith me, just enough cool,

(19:20):
though, I mean yeah but thatkind of but I didn't, but I
didn't get, oh we're not goingto get your dick sucked, sorry,
so we got to prom and it wasfine and we danced and
everything.
I thought this was like.
I asked her prom because we'vebeen kind of flirting but really
she was using me, but I didn'tknow because I was a dumbass.
And then go to prom and Ithought maybe this would lead
into something more.

(19:41):
We can date or whatever, atleast have a summer fling or
whatever the fuck.

Josh (19:45):
Two weeks handjob, three weeks blowjob.

Zach (19:47):
It was like oh, thanks for the prom, see ya.

Josh (19:50):
We were still friends but, it just never worked out.
Am I the only person that went?
Were you a senior at prom?

Zach (19:57):
Yeah, I was a senior at prom and I took a senior Okay,
the following year I went to myyou know I was already an adult
and I went to uh my girlfriend'sprom yes.
I already seen some shit.
I've lived some life, okay, andI went back to high school.

Josh (20:15):
Did you have?
fun the second time.

Zach (20:16):
Oh yeah, because it was my girlfriend and we had a blast,
and then we banged and it wasawesome.

Josh (20:21):
I wish I could do it over again.
I mean, I had fun, don't get mewrong, oh yeah.

Zach (20:25):
I was saying tying into your conversation.
Yeah, you were saying about thedress she seemed like she wore
like a normal, the one I took tothe pool.

Josh (20:31):
Yeah, all of them Like a normal type kind of thing you
know, like below the knee.
Yeah, like floor length shityeah.

Zach (20:49):
And you know, armor going on, uh, it was a little bit more
because she was a little bitmore hippie dippy kind of free
spirit type, anyway.
So, um, she wasn't glammed up,I guess you could say and but it
was still.
You know, it wasn't risque.

Josh (21:03):
It was only a few girls in our class that dressed like
that, but like even our normalday-to-day wasn't average.
The girls we hung out with werein jeans and t-shirts like it
was just we've said it beforelike there was nothing.
Really I don't know.
We just weren't in thatheadspace, like of course we
wondered obviously oh yeah andyou, you know, pour over the
pages and pictures and see ifyou catch a shot of them on the

(21:25):
summer vacation with theirfamily or something but like it
wasn't it wasn't, yeah, yeah,like now you have nothing to
guess, everything is just out inthe open.
You're wandering Like you don'thave to wonder anymore about
anything.
There's no, it's like well,I've already seen all that.

Zach (21:37):
Well, we had there that.
We grew up in a high school.
It was the era of low risejeans.
Oh yeah, you're right.
Yeah, yeah, I'm saying so thegirl, the girls that wore the
low rise jeans.
Those are the ones that wereshowing off.

Josh (21:49):
You remember the what was it called Like gaucho pants,
Like those prerequisite for yogapants.

Zach (21:53):
Yes, and they flared out at the bottom yeah, but it made
the.
Those just covered the ass.
They did not contain the ass.

Josh (22:03):
No.

Zach (22:04):
They just covered it, so you got all of the jiggle it was
cool.
It was amazing, it was cool,great time to be alive.

Josh (22:10):
The jeans with no back pockets, those came out too.
Those were great too.

Zach (22:14):
Unfortunately, the drawback to that is that they
would wear the sweats with likejuicy on the ass.

Josh (22:20):
Those were cool dude.
That was dumb as shit.

Zach (22:22):
I was like the lettering is getting in the way of the
contour.
I can't see the ass properly.

Josh (22:28):
But it only really was cool if it really was what it
says.

Zach (22:29):
But it did give you an excuse to be like look at the
ass.
Because I'm just trying to readwhat it says.
Yeah.

Josh (22:35):
Well then you could just admit what you were doing,
because, they would too.
Yeah, that's true.

Zach (22:47):
What great time I watched, I saw this video of this, uh,
this, uh, talking about, like,how more promiscuous it seems
like this later generations havebeen and they're just well, I'm
telling you, whatever they justgive it up.
I think that's changing.
I think it's.
There's a shift where they'regen z.
Gen z is not on as much um, or agen alpha, I guess you could
say, because it's one after z,uh, is the uh, the ones I think
gen Alpha, I think is the onesthat are currently in school
right now, or something.

Josh (23:08):
I don't know, let me look.

Zach (23:10):
But I saw this video of like a dude.
He was playing this game towhere he would like pretend to
make out with a girl, like go in, and then he would.
Then he would swerve, yeahRight, and he would swerve the
chick and he just did it overand over and over again to
probably like 30 different girlsat this one party.
And of course and I think whatit was is because someone's got

(23:32):
a camera out and they want to bea part of the tick tock or
whatever the fuck they're doing.
But this I'm just like Icouldn't get one girl at a
fucking party to like make outwith me in the middle of fucking
party.
And this dude is these girlswere legit going in and the joke
was they thought it was seriousand then he'd swerve him.
At the end he got like 30 girls, so like he probably just

(23:54):
walked up to him, be like oh hey, we're gonna make a tiktok, you
won't make out, and they'd belike okay, well, yeah and I'm
just like I was born in thewrong time.
It was a wild.
Video making out was the best,absolutely my favorite.
Born in the wrong time.
Try it now.

Josh (24:03):
It was a wild video Making out was the best Absolutely.
It was one of my favoritethings in the world Absolutely.
But yeah, I've also beenswerved on before too that whole
head-turning shit.

Zach (24:11):
I've had that done multiple times.

Josh (24:12):
It sucks.

Zach (24:14):
I never did it.
I know we've talked about ourfirst time becoming men.

Josh (24:21):
We just did last episode, I think.

Zach (24:22):
So we mentioned what about the first?
Like makeout sesh.

Josh (24:25):
Oh man, that was a good one too.
That wasn't as awkward at all,yeah.

Zach (24:29):
I don't know, mine was uh.
I was nervous as fuck.
Oh, I'm on my dude I've.

Josh (24:34):
I don't think I've ever not been nervous for anything.

Zach (24:36):
Yes bad now.
But I'm like Jim from AmericanPie.
I take that back.
My first doesn't actuallyreally count, because I didn't
really know what the fuck I wasdoing, because I was so young I
was terrified of women.
My first I was like, oh, howthe fuck I was old.
I was like not that old, 36?

Josh (24:56):
No it was literally last Tuesday.
No, I was like, let me try tothink of where it was, whenever
I was like uh, it was whenever Iwas in North Carolina, live
there.

Zach (25:07):
So damn, I want to say I was probably 11, maybe 12.
Fuck, I was still playing withLegos.
Yeah, I know, Well, it was a.
It was a neighborhood girl,that was kind of she's kind of
tomboyish a little bit yeah.
So, um, uh, her name was Jesse.
I do remember her name.

Josh (25:25):
Jessie and.

Zach (25:25):
I've talked about.
I've talked about this.
We actually named it an episodetitle yeah, Coming of Age in a
TP it's that story.
Well, yeah, we have a wholeepisode, so she wanted to make
out with tongue and all thiskind of stuff and it was gross
to me.

Josh (25:38):
I Flash Pills is a good episode.
If you guys haven't heard thatepisode, go back and check our
episode.
Yeah, it's one of the veryearly episodes where I talk
about how I became.

Zach (25:47):
it's a coming-of-age story for me that's a good one.
So that technically was myfirst kiss, but I hated it.
I didn't like it.

Josh (25:55):
So you're talking about your first one you liked.

Zach (25:58):
The first one where I was like that's a real one.
I was a sophomore in highschool and it was the snowball,
was the winter formal.

Josh (26:03):
Oh, that's a good dance.
I remember that yeah.

Zach (26:06):
The girl that I took same grade Um uh, her name was Holly
Uh.

Josh (26:11):
I think you might.
You might know, you don't knowher.

Zach (26:14):
I think, uh, I might my friend group in Hendersonville,
I think somebody knows her.
Oh, yeah, okay, cause theyended up being sorority college.
Uh, yeah, holly, she was thefirst.
I don't know, I'll be honestwith you.
I think she did find out later,but uh, definitely probably did
.
Probably does now, if I now I'mthrowing this out here, I don't

(26:34):
think she knew that I was.
She was my first.
I wasn't hers.
Make out first.
Make out, oh nice, I wasn'thurt.
I don't think that's evenrelevant.
Is it like to tell me like,well, and also, there wasn't I.
We asked, you know, I asked herout there.
We didn't date or anything likethat.
We, I think we went on maybeone date and then I asked her to

(26:55):
snowball and um, and then itwas at the end of the night
dropping her off and then makingthe little makeout session.
My, my car.

Josh (27:02):
Oh dude, those cars are cool.
Have you gotten caught?
I was nervous as fuck.
Have you gotten caught makingout in a car?
Uh, like by a friend or likeawkwardly, I didn't oh, so I'm
not in the car, but I've beencaught in so many worse places
I've never been caught doingthat stuff, but like I got
caught making out.

Zach (27:17):
It was I've really awkward was in the middle of having sex
like on top of a girl and oh,oh wow, in a living room.
Blanket on or bare ass, bareass, I'm up, I'm on top, ooh,
and completely forgot to lockthe front door.
I locked the door to the, tothe basement, where everybody
was.
Yeah, but they went out thegarage door and walked around

(27:37):
the and they walked in throughthe front door.
They catch you mid-thrust.
Eight fucking people walkedthrough that door.

Josh (27:42):
Did they catch you mid-thrust?

Zach (27:43):
Yes, oh, that's awkward, but me being me less so now, but
back in the day.
I do well on awkward and also Idon't give a fuck, Especially
them.
I don't have a lot of shame now.
I had negative shame when I wasyounger, you made a lot of
money back in the day.
If that was a thing, yeahpretty.

Josh (28:08):
if it wasn't, you've been rich problem, the studio would
be a lot different.

Zach (28:10):
Yeah, right, right, exactly.
Uh, probably wouldn't be aspopular as it is now, but, um,
yeah, I do remember they walkedin and uh, and I was just you
know, I was making alreadymaking jokes about it and I was
like oh, what's up, you know,come join us.

Josh (28:18):
Whatever I was trying to, like keep a boner, and I was
trying to like get.

Zach (28:22):
I was my.
In my mind I was like'm goingto get up and corral them out of
here.
Butt fucking egg with my dickout.
You know that'd be funny.
She was naked under me, so sheyanked me back down so that I
wouldn't expose her.

Josh (28:36):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Using a human flesh shield?
Yeah, pretty much I was ablanket.

Zach (28:43):
I don't have any like, so not caught in the car, but worse
.
And that's not the first timeI've been walked in on I do.

Josh (28:48):
I remember my first public boner with a female as a young
man.
Oh okay, yeah, I think I was.
I don't even know if I've evertold this story.
I think I was 13 or 14.
Did you tuck in I had talkingto your belt.
Pool date with a young lady.
Um, and for some reason Ithought it'd be a good idea to
wear yellow uh swim trunks andbe pale as I am.

(29:09):
Um, it was a Dunbar cave pool.
I remember it did.

Zach (29:13):
Okay.

Josh (29:13):
First time ever.
Uh, of course you know you'renervous wreck when you're 13, 14
years old, but I never had likea young lady asked me to put
some block on them.
Ooh.
Yeah, yeah.
So I mean it was like, yeah, Iget to touch before, Exactly
right.
As soon as Mike, my hand hither shoulder like the top of it,
instantly Like no, it wasn'tlike that.
No.

Zach (29:41):
I was like six to midnight .
Well, the problem with that,get in the pool.
It's like we just ate.
You can't.

Josh (29:44):
Everything's calmed down, we get in the pool.

Zach (29:46):
Then of course you know there's some like, like cuddling
, when you're a kid, yeah, andthat even just like set me off
Now, you can't get out of thepool up, right she's like what
are you waiting on?

Josh (30:05):
I'm like I you got the full davy jones, and so I had to
like you have to like smash itin that netting.
Yeah, right, so it looks like atrapped fish, or you try like.

Zach (30:09):
You can try like push it down between your thighs.
I can't because you don't wearunderwear with those at the time
, so it's just net like netting,plus all your shit shriveled up
, so it's just shaft it's justmackerel and you don't have a
shirt on, so it's not like ifyou tuck it in the waistband,
your head will just be superthin.

Josh (30:27):
So like yeah, dude, it was no I, I it was awful, it was
awful bro yeah.
And then to you, you know, dudeat that point I mean you just
have to just own it.

Zach (30:40):
You also have that problem whenever you get out of the
water like the suction.

Josh (30:43):
Oh, dude, oh my God, so you had to.
Just finally just went away.
But, dude, that was rough man,that was rough, that sucked.
Being a guy it's all the fun.
It's the best Absolutely.
Yeah, now, once you get older,it's just like I don't care
anymore.
If I get one, I get one.

(31:03):
It's like the dude said.
It's like super bad, super bad.
He said I just want to live ina world where I don't have to
hide my boner.
Yeah well, they want to see him.

Zach (31:08):
That's the world I want to live in.
Yeah, and I'm like it actuallysounds cool, yeah, right.

Josh (31:29):
I mean, I don't want exactly, don't be mad at me.
Well, it's like we.

Zach (31:31):
Uh, I think I've asked the stripper that before.
I was like, uh, I think we'veasked, I've asked, I think
you've asked, I think we weretogether, I think, uh, some
other friends of ours have askedthat question before, but it's
been asked multiple times bydifferent people of strippers.
Be like, do you like?
Like, is that we get boners ornot?

Josh (31:42):
Right.

Zach (31:43):
And I've heard both ways.

Josh (31:45):
Yeah, so I think it's like it annoys them.

Zach (31:47):
Other ones are like well, they think they're not doing a
good job if they like it.

Josh (31:49):
wouldn't it be like it's kind of like getting a good Yelp
review?

Zach (31:51):
Right, yeah, exactly.

Josh (31:52):
It's like a physical Yelp review.

Zach (31:54):
Right.

Josh (31:59):
Exactly.

Zach (32:00):
I think also.
I think just like our, uh, justlike dick size, we're more
obsessed with their dick sizethan women are.
So we're probably more obsessedwith like being, you know,
having a boner and people seeingit.
Then they, they don't thinkthey really care that much.

Josh (32:11):
I don't care anymore.
Now.
I don't care anymore, I'll geta fuck now.
It's awesome, exactly yeah.
And if it's if I can make ajoke out of right, push my hips
out, lean into it like yeah,look at this fucking.
Or just tell me I can't get upright now.
Why?
Because I have a boner, like ohokay, exactly my dick's hard.
Yep, give me a minute.
If anything, you should respectthat yeah, exactly, I get it.

Zach (32:33):
That's how honest I am.
I'm an honest, such an honestperson that I'll admit when I
have a bone.

Josh (32:36):
Yeah, we were out and you like couldn't get up.
Like what's wrong?
You got a cramp.
Like no, my dick's hard, Ican't get up yeah, okay that's
cool, man, take your time.
Really, there's no women around.
What?
Yeah, it's like.
Well, I mean, you used to backin the day, you'd get them
anyways be like once an hour.

Zach (32:48):
Dude, was there 45 minutes to the young men out there or
just driving down the road.

Josh (32:52):
It's like great yes, here comes 100 young men out there.

Zach (32:56):
Just to let you know uh, your home hormones are raging
that eventually they'll subsideand you will not get random
boners.
They eventually it happenssometimes it still does.

Josh (33:08):
It doesn't completely go like just driving into work and
I'm like driving into whattriggered this?

Zach (33:14):
mine is like I have like a , it's like a uh.
It's either a delayed morningwood, yeah, or it's a uh like a
uh, um, an aftershock, yeah.
I have the initial shell shocklike an initial morning wood,
and then it subsides and then Iget a second wave later, and
it's usually on my drive to work.

Josh (33:31):
It's always a drive to work.
I don't know or sometimes if Iget too relaxed yes, it's like I
don't know, it's where, likeI've been watching like an ASMR,
totally random, some somebodygetting their hair cut, some
kind of relaxing somebodydrawing a picture and all of a
sudden, I'm like the fuck.
Why is this turning me on likewhat the fuck is?
happening and then you have to,and of course you can't you try
to like fight it.
You try to like yeah, chill out,dude, and then it's just like

(33:53):
nope she's gotta sit in it.
Just what happens, yeah sit inthe parking lot for a minute or
bring it in with you.

Zach (33:58):
Yeah, exactly, um, yeah, there's nothing you can do.
It's not's not even.
It's like a boner, that's noteven.
You're not particularly likehorny.

Josh (34:04):
No, no, no, not at all, it's just a.
It's just a, I don't know.
It's like your body is like heyman.

Zach (34:08):
Yeah, it's like a little systems check.

Josh (34:09):
Let's be in the present.

Zach (34:11):
I guess.
So Right, yeah, it's not.

Josh (34:20):
it's not a vanity, it's a show boner, it's not a
functional boner you're likesemi peacocking but not looking
for a mate, right?

Zach (34:27):
yeah, exactly yeah, I got you, exactly right, I'm just on
stage, right, I'm not actuallylike lifting it, there's not.
I'm auditioning.
Yes, right, this is an audition.
This is in the real show, right, okay, well, uh, that's the
kind of boners we'll call it anaudition boner yeah, audition
boner.

Josh (34:39):
I'm into that, yep right, a soft launch boner.
Yeah, addition boner.

Zach (34:45):
Yeah, okay, we'll, we'll workshop some ideas.
Maybe I'll add an entry onurban dictionary Okay, which I
do have an entry on on urbandictionary.

Josh (34:55):
That's like number one.

Zach (34:56):
Yeah, man, but I cannot fucking remember what it was.
That may have been it, maybe itwas.
Maybe, maybe it was.
Maybe it was Show boner, showboner.
All right, well, enough bonertalk.
Yeah, let's get into the meatand potatoes.

Josh (35:10):
Let's do it.
We've been all on the meatlately.

Zach (35:14):
We've already been on the meat and potatoes the episode.
Yeah, what you actually.
We've been on hiatus for a week.
We've since, since sickness andeverything.
So what'd you watch the pasttwo weeks?

Josh (35:29):
Oh a lot.
All right, I'll say the thingsI did not.
The big thing I did not likewas Baby Girl.
Okay, so that's a new NicoleKidman movie, kind of a.
You know, when you see thetrailer it's very like, kind of
like Fifty Shades.
It's very sexualized, it's likeso it's a drama thriller type.
Well, she's the, a powerfulwoman figure, ceo of a company
that she started.
So you know it's got that whole, you know whatever.

(35:50):
And then she has the youngintern come in.
You know she's having issues athome not being satisfied, meets
this guy who it's almost likethis submissive dominating thing
.
So when it first started I waslike okay, it's, it was very
risque.

Zach (36:09):
It was very like sexual right away, like right away.
It's like isn't like a gray'sanatomy or not gray's anatomy?
50 shades of gray, not as sexygender's reversed kind of it's.

Josh (36:18):
It's just different.
It's different.
It's um, not as sexy in myopinion.
Okay, it's a little more real,how it really would be okay, I
think.
But you know she's notsatisfied at home.
She has a loving husband andall that.
So I'm like you're like whatthe fuck is going on here?
And then she meets this guywho's not really all that
attractive, it's not, you know?
I mean, I mean, antonio banderais our husband of many years,

(36:39):
good looking older guy, but shemeets this intern like he he's
weird too.
Yeah, and I've seen thesemovies before where it's like it
just goes wrong.
Right, one of them becomesobsessed, but like there was too
too much, I just couldn't getinto it.
It just wasn't a good movie, itwas just overdone, I think.
I think I'm just, if it'sprudent to the story, cool, but

(36:59):
this just wasn wasn't.
I was like, well, like one scenelike she's crawling on her all
fours clothed and he like puts astrawberry candy in her mouth
and makes her spit it out.
And it's just, it's justuncomfortable, it's just weird.
I'm like I don't.
This is not entertaining, asyou're describing it.
It sounds like they're tryingtoo hard.
That's exactly what it felt likeit just and Nicole Kidman is a
great actress like was this?

(37:21):
You know, there was storiesthat came out that she was like
I couldn't stop orgasming,orgasming on.
If I'm saying that right on set, like for these scenes, and I'm
like that is just.
I don't know, it wasn't.
I chewed it and spit it out.
I didn't even finish it, I just, if you're interested, check it
out, if you're into that.
But it's not a good movie.

(37:42):
I gave it like a five.
I'm trying to think of the lastthing.
I saw Nicole Kidman in the lastgood thing.
Well, no, she was in that withZac Efron.
That funny, that comedy onNetflix when Billy what's that
girl's name?
Billie King or Jean King, thecute girl from Kissing Booth?
Hold on hold on can't place itokay, kid man netflix movie.

(38:08):
I maybe I haven't seen it.

Zach (38:11):
A family affair I definitely haven't seen it.
That's a good one.

Josh (38:14):
She was good in that one I think she was she was I.
I really enjoyed that movie.
It was fun.
Her and zach efron do welltogether and that's kind of you
know um, that's a good one andshe was good in cold mountain
that's all.

Zach (38:26):
I think maybe that's older one, but it's good.

Josh (38:28):
Yeah, that was a good one but yeah, it's not her, it was
just.
I don't understand.
It's just a shitty movie.
I didn't.
I didn't care for it at all.
Um, what about you?
What's something you didn'tdidn't?

Zach (38:36):
care for uh, what I didn't care for.
Uh, so I'll just I'll go on andgo right into this.
I've been kind of teasing thisfor the past few episodes, uh
and or uh, movie time is a roughstart.
It was a rough start, uh, sofar as nine episodes, uh, one
through three was a rough start.
Like I said, I felt like 80 ofthe of the plot lines it was

(38:59):
just what they shot and whatthey made were just pointless.
I didn't know what the fuck'sgoing on.
Uh, the middle episodes there,uh, the next ones four, five and
six weren't really any better.
There was a time jump of a yearbetween episode three and
episode four and you know, it'sjust basically the gist that I

(39:22):
got all the way up and for thosethree episodes at least, was
Andor was just running missions,right, that's the idea.
He was running these covertmissions for the rebellion and
you can tell he was getting likeburnout was the idea.

(39:44):
And then his girlfriend Bix,she was like stressing about,
she was like on drugs and shewas having nightmares and she
was stressing about, I guess,her torture that happened in
season one and I guess maybealso the attempted rape that
happened in like episode three,yeah, which is totally fucking
weird and pointless, of starwars and, uh, just oddly placed

(40:06):
and um, and then the the stuffthat was happening with Mon
Mothma.
She was just, I don't know,just talking to people and it
didn't feel like anything washappening.
Essentially, you know what Imean.
These characters were just kindof like floating through the
fucking plot.
There wasn't really anything.
I don't know, maybe I'm off,but maybe this is a fucking
masterpiece to these fucking,you know, movie critic people or

(40:30):
whatever.
I think it was fairly boring.
And then the last threeepisodes that happened is
supposed to be a little bit moreclimatic and there was a battle
that happened in that way theykind of set it up is on this one
particular planet that the, theempire has an interest in?
The what's in the ground?
In this one planet, planet?
It's a resource that they needit?
Obviously they need it for thedeath star.

(40:51):
That's the implication, eventhough outright say it you,
everybody knows what that's ofcourse, because this is prequel.
Prequel to rogue one is what'shappening and, uh, you can see
it leading up to rogue onebecause it actually it's leading
up to the battle of yavin.
Um, because it says um b,battle of Yavin 4 or whatever.

(41:12):
So it's the battle before Yavinis BBY and then before Battle
of Yavin, sorry, and then soit's counting down to zero and
that's what ends up beingEpisode 4, right, is the Battle
of Yavin.
So you can see where it's going.
So everybody knows that allthis that's happening in this
plot is leading to what happensin Rogue One, so there's not

(41:33):
really any surprises there.
So I guess, if you're watchingthis show which was my initial
interest was watching how thesausage was made, essentially,
how the rebellion was formed.
But you're not really seeing howthe rebellion was formed.

Josh (41:47):
Kind of lost their way.

Zach (41:55):
Everybody's just like.
It's just more of a characterstudy about andor and and his
girlfriend bix is going throughthese struggles and one of my
favorite characters from seasonone because he actually had like
cool.
There was nobody that's hadlike a cool moment so far in
this show, you know, I mean noone.
There was no scene where you'relike, oh fuck, that was cool.
Not, that's not happened yeahit's just a bunch of people
talking and whining andeverything that's happened on

(42:15):
this one planet called gorman,and the empire needs this
resource that's in the ground,and by extracting it they know
that it's going to destroy theplanet essentially.
And so in order to, I guess,contain the backlash because you
kind of forget that in even inthe, the original essentially
and so in order to, I guess,contain the backlash, because
you kind of forget that in evenin the, the original trilogy,
and in the star wars universe,yeah, there's the empire and
it's the emperor, but there'sstill the senate.

(42:36):
The senate still exists, it'sjust under the empire umbrella,
and so the the emperor still hasto keep the the empire together
to the senate, and so there'sstill, you know forces, that you
know he can't just runroughshod.
So, yeah, the emperor still doesthings covertly, yeah, in a
sneaky way.
It's not like he became emperorand he's like well, I guess I
can just do whatever the fuck Iwant, because it wasn't like

(42:58):
even rogue one vader even has.
They have to answer, right,they still have answer to yes,
and there's a chain of commandand all that's correct.
Now they blurred the lines a lot, well, of course, and but then
they would find some way to spinit or excuse it or whatever
right.
So there's, there's, you gethints of that, and so they can't
just like take, be, like, allright, we need your resource,
gorman, fuck you, and they killeverybody.

(43:19):
It's not like that.
So they have to play this likepolitical game, to where the
idea is that the empire has, uh,called it, there's a agency
called the um, isb, and it'sbasically their cia, it's.
It's black ops type stuff, it'sthe intelligence agency for the
empire and um, their idea isthat they're going to um, stoke

(43:39):
a uh, a, an uprising uh ongorman and fuel these guerrilla
forces in order to andantagonize them and kind of feed
them information and make themgrow.
And they know that they'rehappening, but they're fostering
it and making it grow so wherethey'll lash out at the empire,

(43:59):
which gives the empire an excuseto wipe everybody out.

Josh (44:04):
I kind of like the sound of some of that.

Zach (44:05):
And it is a cool concept To me.
It's poorly executed, yeah, andit's also.
It's just too, there's just.
It would be fine if they didall that, if there was also cool
shit happening.
Yeah, there's no cool shithappening.
Yeah, there's really not.
Like, there's not really anygood like battles, space battles
, battles, space battles nothingthat's really happening, it's

(44:27):
just a bunch of people talking,the only thing that was.
At one point I thought maybethis would be good.
They did a kind of a the rebelson Gorman did, and these are
just rebels for Gorman.
They're not part of the RebelAlliance, they're just, I think,
insurgents.
That's what they are, is whatthey call them.
So these insurgents are, theyhatch, hatch this plan with help
from the uh, some operativeswith the rebel alliance to, um,

(44:53):
uh, steal some weaponry from theempire so they have some
weapons to fight back if theyneed to, right?
So that was kind of interestingor whatever.
And there's a character one ofthe lesbians gets killed and
there was a whole scene with herand all this kind of stuff and
it was powerful.
You know, I put that in quotesand I think that's what critics
are like.
You know, hard about is like oh, it's so powerful and it's
adult.
I'm like, yeah, but it's boring, like I don't care that.

(45:16):
There was like that oneparticular scene that the
actress like really fuckingbrought it home this plot and
the story and everything'sboring.

Josh (45:23):
They know how they do things.
Right they do things right.
You know it's important to them, I know, and so it's, that's,
that's my general beef with it.

Zach (45:29):
And then there's there's one character that uh, I really
don't understand what the fuckthe point he was.
He had this entire season, buthe was in last season and he was
like a on this one uh planetcalled pharynx, which is where
andor is from, or at least what,maybe not where he was from,
but where he'd been where theshow started.
He was like a low level, likesecurity officer on pharynx and

(45:51):
um, and of course andor wasdoing you know kind of like uh,
smuggling rogue shit or whateverand uh, he was stealing um,
imperial, uh tech and stuff andselling on black market and he
was catching wind of it.
He was trying to find out whoit was.
And so there was like whole catand mouse thing that was
happening in season one betweenthis imperial officer, who was
low level, actually wasn'treally, he was like a

(46:13):
subcontractor, he was just a lowlevel pharynx officer and his
basic thing is he's kind of likea ladder climber and he was
trying to climb the ranksthrough the empire and he was
using trying to catch Andor tolike make his name for himself.
He gets hooked into, hooked upwith, and literally they start
like dating and they're like athing.

(46:33):
But it's with an Imperialintelligence officer who's a
woman and she played I mean Isaid last season she was great.
She's had this like pricklyfucking, I'm a bitch looking
face, like she played like anevil woman perfectly.
Um, but him in the season twohe's like basically riding her

(46:55):
coattails and I can't rememberhis name.
It's um, it's a weird name.
It's like uh, isla is, is, issomething, but um, see, so
freaking forgettable.
Well, he's uh and forgettable.
Well, he's the one that's onthe ground stoking the
insurgents and likedouble-playing him or whatever
right, pretending that he'strying to join in with the

(47:15):
insurgents, but really he'sfeeding them information and
he's gathering information andall this kind of stuff.
He's double-crossing them.
So I guess that's what he'skind of doing.
And then the massacre happens.
They end up successfullygoading the insurgents to during
this protest in this townsquare, a firefight shoots off

(47:37):
and that actually the empirestarted.
They ended up one of theintelligence officers.
They ended up shooting one oftheir own people Right, which
sparked off, and then theyretaliated.
They thought it was somebody inthe crowd and then a gunfight
ensues.
And during that whole thingthis dude comes up and he has a

(47:58):
fight with Andor and he ends upgetting the upper hand and he's
standing over Andor with a gun.
He's about to shoot him with ablaster and Andor looks at him.
He's like who are you?
And then another character,who's one of the insurgents,
just shoots the guy in the headand his story is over.
And I'm like what the fuck wasthe point of this guy?

(48:18):
There was no closure, there wasno like I don't understand.
Like he was a main character,right, because that you followed
his art, for he was likelow-level security officer on a
little fucking backwater planet.
He worked his way all the wayup into where he's like part of
this major operation.
His girlfriend is like a majoroperator in the Emperor
Intelligence.

Josh (48:37):
That wasn't safe.

Zach (48:38):
It was just.
It was very odd.
I was like this is how this guy.
It was weird and also just,even though there was a fucking
fight happening in Town Square,it was boring.
It was boring.

Josh (48:49):
Yes.

Zach (48:49):
Okay.
The best part, I think, waswhenever the Imperial droids
came out, the ones that were inRogue One.
It was fucking.

Josh (48:58):
K2.
K2.

Zach (49:01):
Yeah, they're very top heavy, they have skinny legs,
they're very imposing.
Well then things came out and Ididn't realize how they got
some fucking strength and theywere just throwing people and
they were dying instantly.
It was amazing that was the onlypart that was like that's
fucking cool, yeah, um, butotherwise the show generally is
boring.
There hasn't really been anyspace battles that are that are

(49:22):
worth a fuck to even talk about,even in season one.
Uh, um, uh.
Luthan, the, which is theuhellen Skarsgård character he
had an awesome scene with that,with the badass ship Fucking
cool.
And then also whenever he wasin the underbelly of Coruscant,
he had this monologue about whyhe's doing this.

(49:43):
He's like why he's fightingagainst the Empire, like why
he's, you know, fighting againstthe empire.
And one of the characters thatis infiltrated the intelligence
agency with the empire was likeyou know, we're doing all the
work.
You're just behind the scenes,like what have you know?
What does this call?
This doesn't cost you anythingto do this or whatever.
And he goes this wholemonologue where it's like cost

(50:03):
me my dignity, I'm going to, I'mI'm never going to gonna see
the.
He's basically making theargument, the, the phrase.
You know he's planting the tree, uh, the shade of which he will
never know, you know is, andthat it's a great monologue.
It just doesn't happen inseason two.
They're just fucking phoning itin I don't know what to say,
like there's no great moment.

(50:23):
Supposedly.
This like one of the lastepisode, mon mothma who's you
know that?
She's the leader of therebellion in the in the last
episode, mon Mothma, she's theleader of the rebellion in the
movies, her and Bail Organa,leia's dad from Alderaan.
They have this.
It's time they, after whathappens to Gorman, the Empire is
like spinning it to being like.

(50:44):
Well, it was insurgents.
They rose up.
We stamped down the insurgency,they started it all.
They're the bad guys, you know.
So they're.
It's all propaganda, buildingtheir case, build, making their
case.
And their plan is working.
Now they can, you know.
Well, we got to root them outand we've got to kick everybody
out of Gorman because we got toroot out these insurgents.
And then, boom, now they can,you know, refugee them all, and

(51:06):
then they can extract the.
Now they have an excuse toextract the mineral that they
need to get without worryingabout backlash.
Right, is the whole point.
Well, obviously it's bullshit.
And so Mon Mothman, bell,organa, they decided their plan
is that they're going to havethis big speech in front of the
Senate and expose the wholething.

(51:26):
Yeah, and then.
But they know that as soon asthey do that, the Empire is
going to arrest them and it'llbe over.
So then they have to do thisspeech and then get extracted
out real quick and everybodyonline that's a big, super fan
of the show and I was one waslike oh, it's such a powerful,
it's the moment.
And I was like it wasn't.
It was kind of like meh, yeah,and she does this speech and it

(51:47):
seems fairly generic to me.
It wasn't powerful, I didn'treally feel like it wasn't old
star Wars, it was odd and uh.
And then their escape plan wasit was weird.
It was literally just likeAndor showed up, set a code
words, so she knew who that hewas you know, safe to go.
Uh, cause Mon Mothman never metAndor before, so he was, like

(52:08):
you know, the bag man and theyjust kind of briskly but
casually walked out of there.
There was no, they made it seemlike there was.
Like it was like a, a Harrischance that this was going to
work Like they're right outsideand they had to do something.
You know had to come up withthis master plan and there's no
room for error, and he just kindof walked out of there.

(52:29):
It was weird, he shot one guy.
It was very dumb, is what I'msaying.

Josh (52:34):
There was no excitement, no stakes.
I'm not going to watch it.
It sucks.

Zach (52:38):
And also a little side note I mentioned this to
somebody and I had to Googlethis or check on AI just to make
sure I was correct, because itcaught me off guard.
One of the characters saysyou've got spiders spider on
your brain or spider brain.
And then someone says somethinglike you know, I'll shoot you
like a dog, or something likethis.

(52:59):
They say the word dog and theysay the word spider.
And he even gives him like a.
There's like a little trinketthat he gives him that's in the
shape of a spider.
It's like a little uh uhtrinket that he gives him that's
in the shape of a spider.
It's like a little spidertrinket and he puts it on his
like bookshelf or whatever.
And I was just like spider dog,hold up Like this is star Wars,
this isn't earth, this is agalaxy far, far away.

(53:19):
Where are their spiders?
And why would they call them?
Look it up.
And nowhere in any of theoriginal, in the George Lucas
Star Wars in the original, Ithink even in the nine movies of
the movies they don't referenceearth animals, ever Ever.
They don't ever say dog, cat,spider, horse, cow none of that,
nothing Right, even wheneverthey'll reference something

(53:40):
where we in our brains we'relike oh, I think I know what
that is Like when Leia calls HanSolo a nerf herder.
We know what he's saying Aherder, and we don't know what a
nerf is.

Josh (53:53):
But if he's a herder and she's making an insult, she's
basically saying he's like afucking cow farmer is what she's
saying.

Zach (53:58):
He's a backwoods scruffy-looking nerf herder.

Josh (54:01):
Scruffy-looking nerf herder.

Zach (54:02):
We don't know what a nerf is, but we know what a nerf is,
but we get to know where theword herder is.
But so that's a reference to acow.
Is what the?

Josh (54:09):
they're breaking tradition there.

Zach (54:10):
So there it breaks things, and it's the same reason why
episode eight, fucking suckedass, is because you can't just
light speed through ships.
It breaks things.
You're breaking the universewhen you do those things.
They broke.
That entire trilogy broke 100that entire trilogy.

Josh (54:26):
Off that entire it may entire trilogy and it pissed me,
the fuck off that entiretrilogy.

Zach (54:29):
It may seem like a simple thing oh, they just said Spider,
but it's not True.
Star Wars fans, I don't give afuck what these critics say
about Andor and all and you knowit being so good and the acting
and the story it's bullshit.
They did not handle the seasontwo with care.
Season one had a really goodstart and I was excited about
what was going to happen.

Josh (54:47):
season two they fucked it I mean the entire, that entire
shitty trilogy.
Of course you can nick, pickpieces out of it that you like,
right?
If I get a bowl of trail mix Ican pick out the m&ms.
I know what are good yes, butin that same thing with that
trilogy.
But the problem with doing sois or the problem that was a
good problem was that it made merespect the prequel trilogies
that we all didn't care for verymuch.

(55:08):
Now I go back and watch thoseand I'm like these are great
movies.

Zach (55:11):
Yes, Compared to this Because episode one through
three had clunky dialogue.
Some of the acting was hammedup.

Josh (55:18):
It was Lucas's return back to being director.
It was, and it was the timethat the reason he took the job
was to that he could, now thathe had the visual effects team
to do the things he wanted to dothat he could not do in the 70s
.

Zach (55:30):
Yes.

Josh (55:33):
So it's his time to finish his story the way he wanted to.

Zach (55:34):
But he still, you know he also he still has this like
marketing brain and he wanted tomake things for kids and he
wanted to sell more toys.

Josh (55:43):
Well, Star Wars has always been intended.

Zach (55:43):
So that's the reason why he came up with Jar Jar Binks,
this reason, like Boss Nass wasdoing like the shaking his lips,
like making these goofy jokes,but he didn't break his own
universe.

Josh (55:55):
Star Wars innately is for children.
Yes.
I mean it's for 12, 14,15-year-old kids Like that's oh
shit, what the fuck Look at that.
They're on the answer on yourhoney.
Holy shit, that's what it's for.
So when people you know, bashed.

Zach (56:11):
all these Adults can enjoy it too.

Josh (56:12):
Oh, of course I'm not saying they can't, but Lucas is
always stuck to what he wantsyes and or is not for children.
Well, no, I mean.

Zach (56:19):
First of all, they would be bored out of their mind.
If I'm bored, going to watch it.

Josh (56:22):
You can adult it up.
Honestly, rogue One is a littlebit more adult level darker
because everyone fucking dies init Spoiler, but it stuck to the
.

Zach (56:36):
But they didn't break the universe.
Yeah, it's a great movie, theydidn't break the universe.
There's three more episodesleft, I believe.

Josh (56:43):
I think it's 12 total, it's that time of year I think
it's 12 total.
I must have.
Sorry, we got a littleinfestation.
It's that time of year, it'sannoying me.

Zach (56:51):
I have to address that.
But we've got ant infestationthat's hitting us right now all
of a sudden.
Fuck, this time of year, dude.
I hate it, anyway, yeah, sothat's my main frustration with
it.
It seems like a little thing,but is it's a big thing?
uh, because it means that thesepeople, when they're writing the

(57:12):
dialogue, they're lazy, theydon't, they don't take care of
the universe that they'rewriting in um and most like most
things, I think with hollywoodthese days is uh, you know you,
you hire enough fuckingnon-binary fat writers, then
you're going to get this kind ofbullshit, and that's.
That's exactly what it is.
You know what I'm saying?

Josh (57:32):
I was.
I was afraid.

Zach (57:33):
I'm afraid to ask you now what you did like so I want to
rant there, but no, you need toget that out, it's a.

Josh (57:40):
I mean it's a popular show like it's.

Zach (57:42):
I had to get that out because I was I was hyping it up
and I was really excited aboutit, and it's just a lot of
people I can admit that itfucking sucks.

Josh (57:48):
A lot of people were excited.
Yeah Cause season one was huge.

Zach (57:52):
but now maybe you know these last three episodes.
Yeah, I'm going to finish itout and see how they end up,
cause this is supposed to leadright up to rogue one, and
usually you know it's the climaxthey last it actually comes out
.
Um, we're recording on atuesday, so it's actually
tonight.
It's like probably on right now, um, so I'll watch the last
three episodes and and thenreport back and maybe they're

(58:14):
gonna say the best for last, butI'm it overall.
They've already screwed thepooch and I'm over it and I just
want to get the end, and thenI'm gonna watch rogue one and to
, to fix it, to fix it yeah Iwatched the prequels a couple
weeks ago.

Josh (58:27):
Yeah, I will say something .
I'll butt in and say something.
I did watch that.
I really like that's out rightnow.
That I think's really fun, notsci-fi.
The Four Seasons on Netflix,yeah, which, if you guys have it
, it's out now on Netflix.
It's got Tina Fey, uh LangFisher, it's got uh Will Forte.

(58:49):
Um, what's up Steve Carell's init.
But what's cool is it's?
It's I didn't know it, but it'sbased off of a movie, uh, of
the same name.
It's an older film I've neverseen it, uh, from 1981, called
the four seasons, yeah, from1981 called the four seasons
with Alan Alda.
Yeah, so that's what it's basedoff, but really it's.
I just kind of stumbled becauseI like Steve Carell, I like

(59:11):
Tina Fey.
Uh, will Forte is good, thecast is great, so I started
watching it.
But it's fun Like it's a.
I think it's eight episodes.
It's fun, though, like it'sfamily all been friends for 30
years Steve Carell's character.
They're all on vacation and hetells them like oh, I want to
divorce my wife of 25 yearsbecause of X, y and Z, and you
kind of follow the seasons oftheir friendship and then them

(59:34):
vacationing and all this wholething and I'm five episodes in.

Zach (59:37):
That's right.
They go on a group vacationevery quarter.
That's correct.

Josh (59:41):
Yeah, and it's a really the writing is good.
The jokes land, steve Care thewriting is good.
Uh, the jokes land steve carellis awesome.
Like he's kind of like alsolike in his glow up phase right
now.
Um, tina fey's always awesome.
She's just saying she looksgood.
The whole thing is really goodso far.
It's fun.
It's kind of nice taking abreak.
It's not.
It's not hard to follow.

(01:00:02):
Um, you know it's got yourtoken token gay couple.
It does, but every couple hastheir problems that they're
trying to like sift through,yeah, but they're important to
the story.
It makes sense, so that doesn'teven bother me as far as that
part of it.
But yeah, everybody's good init.
It's awesome so far.
I'll let you guys know what Ithink when I finish it, but so
far, if you want something light, it's a little different.

(01:00:24):
It's good on Netflix.

Zach (01:00:26):
I think I was reading some reviews about that, but it's
not like a raucous comedy orwhatever.

Josh (01:00:33):
No not really, it's a little more of a situational
family comedy type thing.
Yeah, especially for themarried folks.
It's got those kind of jokes,that kind of land, that way.
But it also shows the wholeyoung of an older guy meets a
younger woman and how thatdynamic works.
And then the vacation, ofcourse, the dramas that come

(01:00:53):
with vacationing, like thatwhole thing, and then getting
older and and it's, it's, it'sfun, it's a good show.

Zach (01:00:59):
Is it like?

Josh (01:00:59):
that's like couples retreat, but less silly, exactly
right, it's not as funny ascouples retreat, but I don't
think it's intended to be thatway.

Zach (01:01:06):
More, more of more of a dramedy.

Josh (01:01:07):
Exactly right.
There's good, there's goodhumor in it, but it's more a
realistic.
It's not so sorry, it's not asarcastic humor A lot.
There's not a lot of riffing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly right.
Um, but yeah, that's what, Ithat's what, because I tend to
go back and re-watch a lot offilms.
I went back and watched theJaws movies a couple days ago,

(01:01:29):
which are so fun still, and thenI've watched some of these
older films.
I've got them all written down.
There's just too many of themnow.
I'm trying to keep up.
I started Breakfast atTiffany's.
I didn't realize that AudreyHepburn was a real fox back in
the day.
She's pretty stunning.

Zach (01:01:47):
That's as far back as I'll go.

Josh (01:01:48):
Yeah, she's a really attractive dark-haired woman but
she's so elegant in herappearance it's pretty wild.
The movie's not great.
I'm halfway there it's stillnot one of my favorites.
It's kind of weird.
I'm going to finish it, ofcourse, and then I'll go back
and re-watch stuff, but the onething I don't like you're like

(01:02:09):
going through the criterioncollection man, I just stumble
on stuff dude did you get asubscription to turner classic?

Zach (01:02:16):
no, that was on youtube movie so I have.

Josh (01:02:18):
You can find most movies for free, most of the time with
a few ads.
But yeah, like I just get on,yeah, basically like a turner
classic, I'm like what the fuckis this?

Zach (01:02:29):
And I'll Columbia pictures is open their vault.
You're like I'm there, I'mthere.

Josh (01:02:32):
I'm in line with my monocle and my pocket watch.
I don't know, dude, like I'vejust had a very wide net here
lately on film.

Zach (01:02:42):
I can appreciate it.

Josh (01:02:44):
But there's not Well, yeah , I guess we could, but there's
not Well, yeah, I guess we could.
I mean, tell me something youdid like, but I guess we can go
into it One thing I did like Iguess I'll stick with TV shows.

Zach (01:02:52):
Uh is they.
Uh, I did finish up and theywrapped up the final season of
uh you.

Josh (01:02:58):
Yeah, that's a, that's a popular one.

Zach (01:03:03):
Uh, that was a.
I enjoyed it.
It was wild.
I mean the main character, joe,he definitely just devolves
into you know.
I guess the point of the seasonwas is, you know, he stalks
these women.
Essentially, he convinceshimself that they're the love of
his life and he has to doeverything in his power to

(01:03:26):
protect them from them from likebad people to try to do him
harm or whatever.
And it always ends up into himkilling somebody Right.
He ends up killing somebody, andthen, of course, they either
find out or they are not thegirl that's the point of his
obsession or either find outthat he's murdered somebody, or
they just turn out not to be whohe thought they were Right and

(01:03:48):
his obsession fades and now heends up killing them.

Josh (01:03:53):
I saw season one.

Zach (01:03:55):
Yeah, so it doesn't end well for everybody involved, but
Joe somehow makes it out everytime.

Josh (01:04:01):
It's Dan from Gossip Girl.
Yeah, 100%.

Zach (01:04:05):
And he's basically the same character.
He's kind of like book, smartand kind of like artsy.

Josh (01:04:10):
I saw season one and I just it wasn't bad, but he's
like he's a writer.
He was a writer in Gossip Girlso it's basically Dan, if he was
a stalker, slash, serial killerwhich he kind of was stalkery,
pretty much kind of yeah but ifI would stalk Blake Lively?
yeah, but I've only hot chicks.
Yeah, a hundred percent yeah.

Zach (01:04:27):
Actually, I came across that show, gossip girl, on
Netflix and I was like add tolist, I'll rewatch that later,
cause it's so fucking hot inthat show.
Yeah, so I'll just fast forwardto her scenes.
But anyway, I don't care thatshe might be a bitch, she tried
fuck, she's hot as shit.

Josh (01:04:44):
So you get a pass.

Zach (01:04:46):
Exactly this show gives you a pass Even Amber Heard,
when that whole thing was goingon.
I was like she's still hot asfuck Now she crossed the line
when she's shitting in his bed.

Josh (01:04:53):
Yeah, but we don't know if she sharted on accident.

Zach (01:05:01):
I don't know the full extent.
We weren't there.
We weren't there.
However, if I can clean that up, I'd be like how big was the
shit?
Was it solid?

Josh (01:05:06):
Was it messy?
Was it solid?
Yeah, everybody's shit stinks.

Zach (01:05:09):
Yeah, I wouldn't just dismiss it out of hand.
I've got some additionalquestions.

Josh (01:05:12):
This is when the hot girl privilege card would be played
Correct and I would accept thecard Correct Exactly and be like
you know, just clean that shitup.

Zach (01:05:28):
It's like, basically, if you're hot, you can get away
with a lot on this show, but no,it was good and he's.
It was kind of like a strippingdown of the character to where
he's really getting to his finalessence and he's always in
denial.
He can't admit to himself thathe likes it.

Josh (01:05:43):
Yeah.

Zach (01:05:43):
That he, he and in this season he finally admits that
kind of he enjoys the purposethat he gets by killing bad
people.
Quote bad people that try tohurt his love Kind of yes.
And so and he's also hegaslights himself, he gaslights
all the women.
He's very manipulative, veryMachiavellian.

(01:06:05):
It's great.
And so this season he's reallyat peak, okay.
But I do also get the sensethat they were kind of rushing
in some areas to try to wrap itup because it is the final
season.

Josh (01:06:16):
Oh, you got no one to get out though.
Yeah, good shows, no one to getout.

Zach (01:06:19):
And I think they got out at the right time.
I think they probably couldhave got out last season and it
would have been fine.
But they did one more andeverybody kind of like you know
he's kind of also wrestling withsome ghosts of his past, so you
kind of get glimpses.

Josh (01:06:34):
So it's four and done Five seasons, that's a good number.

Zach (01:06:39):
I think they went out well , I think the ending was well,
because one of the things thatI'll go ahead and spoil it,
because I don't know what thefuck, unless you plan to watch
it.

Josh (01:06:47):
I was going to Okay.

Zach (01:06:48):
Well, I won't spoil it, but it ends in a way that I
think people may not expect.
But one of the things that it'sgoing to be hard to describe
this without explaining it, Oneof the things Penn Badgley, the
character that plays JoeGoldberg in the show, he, when
season one came out, he shot theshow and then it comes out and

(01:07:12):
he's you know people you knowhave, he sees the reception that
he gets and he was kind ofshocked of how many people like
loved the character yeah and hewas like.
I played him as like a bad guy,like you were supposed to not
like an anti-hero almost well,he's like he's a stalker.
Yeah, he kills people and he'splaying him that way and penn
badger was like I was likeshocked that people were like

(01:07:34):
rooting for joe and it's likethe fuck, like he's a piece of
shit, and so that keeps going onas seasons go along and if
you've ever seen interviews withpenn badgley talking about
somebody you want to like hangout with, I think he would be a
cool hang the dudes you know hereminds me very down to earth.

Josh (01:07:49):
He reminds me of uh killian murphy oh, I do like
killian murphy chill, he's notinto the fame thing he calls it
like.
It is like a hewan mcgregor.

Zach (01:07:58):
Yes, kind of like you mcgregor uh, he seems really
cool.
He's not into the fame thing,he just likes to do his work.
Yeah, um, and then he, if youwere, were sitting next to him
on a bus.
He's not going to act like he'sfamous or whatever he's going
to talk to you and be fine.
He seems like that, but that wasone of the things he would say.
He didn't like that.

(01:08:19):
He was kind of shocked thatpeople were sympathizing with
this character.
He's like no, you're supposedto not hate this character.
He's a bad guy.
You may be fascinated by him,but you're not supposed to like
root for him, and so that kindof bothered him, I guess, and he
made some comments about that.
Well, I won't spoil it, but atthe last scene, at the very end

(01:08:40):
of the show, there's kind of acallback to that, to where he
makes a reference and I'm tryingnot to spoil this where he's.
You know, the title of the showis you, and so he's, and the
you is usually in reference tothe girl that he's stalking or
whatever, because he's alwaystalking about like you, you and
I love you and I'll look at you.

Josh (01:09:02):
The emphasis is on it's you, that's what his emphasis is
.

Zach (01:09:05):
Well, he kind of turns the tables and at the end of the
series there is not anotherperson for him to cast that
obsession on you, and so he kindof like one of the last lines,
he is essentially talking to usas the audience.
It's implied he's actuallytalking to the broad audience

(01:09:27):
within the show, or, you know,the general public in the show,
but really it's a reference tous and what he's saying is like
the problem is not me, theproblem is you, and he's saying
the audience, the problem is youguys like this shit.
Yeah, that's cool, that's kindof cool dude.
You guys are fascinated by thisstuff and you guys are the
problem.
That's the reason why we madefour seat, five seasons of this
show is because you all are sick.

(01:09:48):
yeah and it's not, and it was agood little kind of thing at the
end and I was like, okay, I'minto this, he's not wrong, it
was good, I'm not gonna lie.
Uh, again, it had some rushyparts, uh, some parts, it was
like two.
It was uh, even for this showat the, some things happening
like that's fucking wild, thatwould never happen.
And sometimes, and it was alittle bit turned up to 11 in

(01:10:10):
that regard and this last season.
But overall good, I enjoyed it.
I think they tied it off Well,it was a good send off.
I think it ended appropriately.
It was the last episode,especially like I didn't know
what was going to happen and youknew it was going to be the
final episode.
So you really want to see whathappens.
So I love that.
I love that about a finale isyou don't know how it's going to
go and you know this is thelast time you're going to get to

(01:10:33):
watch this show, so all theanswers to questions you have
they've got to get answered inthis, in this one episode, and
so cause you don't know ifthey're going to do like a
spinoff or bring it back likethey've done dexter, they
brought him back, or whatever.
Um, so you want to make surethat they do the finale right
and you know there's alwayscontroversy when it comes to

(01:10:53):
finales like did they do itright?
How did people receive likegame of thrones, fucking dropped
you got no one to get out therethe fringe.
They screwed they screwed thatlast episode up the whole last
season.
Yeah, friend, yes, uh, one ofthe weirdest ones that people uh
recall all the time is seinfeld.
The last episode of seinfeld,they go to jail.
It's the craziest fuckingfinale.
That's true they all go to jail.

(01:11:14):
Um, it's weird, um, but uh,overall, fantastic.
I that is.
It's 10 episodes a season.
I believe I think the firstseason was six.
It was like they were justtrying to.
You know it's a short seasonbecause it was didn't know the
show was going to kick off, butI think every season after that
is 10 episodes.
Uh, hour long episodes, uh,great.

(01:11:34):
I think the best season overallwould probably be the the
second and third season.
I think it would be the overallthe best one.
Okay, uh, that's, that's theone with his love interest.
Her name is love Quinn.
Um and um, that that's.
I think my favorite is thosetwo, um, but otherwise very good

(01:11:57):
.
I definitely recommend watchingit, um, but since that is
something I I definitely umenjoyed this week, so definitely
better and or skip and or watchyou.

Josh (01:12:07):
I forgot to bring this up and I may have on the show in
the past I don't think I have.
There's a show on Apple whichwe all know.
Apple TV plus brings the heaton their shows Just great.

Zach (01:12:17):
I'm stoked about you need to watch Foundation.
You already started it.

Josh (01:12:20):
So there's a show called Servant.
I've never brought this up.
It's four seasons.
I think that's what triggeredme.
A good show knows when to getout.
Yeah, it's four seasons, 40episodes total.
It's in my sham on, and theentire show is good.
Every season is good.
I got hooked on it and finishedthe entire thing in like two

(01:12:42):
weeks.
It is.
Did you mute me?
I think I muted myself.
You muted yourself.
Hey, welcome back.
It is probably one of the bestshows I've ever seen as far as a
one-off show.
Really it's creepy Well but itwas four seasons.

Zach (01:12:55):
It's four seasons.
Okay, I got you.
Does that say that?
Right?
I guess you're saying one-offshow.

Josh (01:13:02):
I was thinking like Well, I meant, when I say one-off, I
mean it's not an extension,they're not a spinoff, there's
no additional content, it's fourseasons and it's done.
Okay, and it ends.
It ends great, it's awesome.
Okay, watch it.

Zach (01:13:15):
It's older.
What's the?

Josh (01:13:20):
Well, in my Shyamalan, you never know what's going to
happen.
Yeah, twisted, so there's thehas a baby.
It's a fake baby.
To help with a passing of ababy, they get a nanny.

Zach (01:13:37):
What do you mean?
A fake baby Like?
So apparently they use that forcoping.

Josh (01:13:40):
No, it's a, it's an actual baby doll they use it for
certain women whenever they losean infant, for postpartum stuff
or they'll.
They'll have a.
It's a coping mechanism, okay,but it goes too far.

Zach (01:13:50):
No, no, no.
This is a modern times.
No, no, no, not at all Okay.

Josh (01:13:53):
And then all of a sudden you're watching it and they get
a nanny and you're like that'sweird.
It's like a fake baby.
All of a sudden they come inand it's a real baby and you're
like who the fuck's baby is?
that.
And it's like, oh, that baby'sbeen here and you're like acting
like it's a real baby becauseit is her brother.

(01:14:13):
Walks in and it's Rupert thedude who plays Ron from Harry
Potter and he is fantastic inthe show and the husband.
They're both like who thefuck's baby is that.

Zach (01:14:23):
So when you're saying that this triggered me of a scene
with Cat Williams, yes, who thefuck's goddamn white baby is
that?

Josh (01:14:31):
Just because you name him Darren don't mean he belonged to
Darren.
That baby is white.

Zach (01:14:34):
That baby has a credit score of eight 50 right now as
an infant.

Josh (01:14:37):
Uh, this one might be mine , uh, but no.
So that's watch it.
That's all I'm going to giveaway.
And then you just follow themystery of whose baby is this?
Who's this nanny?
What the fuck?
It's okay.
It never lets up.
Okay, it never lets up the show.

Zach (01:14:58):
okay, it's an older show, but it just never how old.
Here we talking like uh no,it's still, I'm not talking
about like black and white, ifthat's what you're worried about
zach.

Josh (01:15:01):
Yeah, no, no, 2019, he's not 130 years old.
It started 2019.
Okay, yeah, I got you.

Zach (01:15:05):
Uh ended 2023 I guess that's what I was saying, but I
never, I never heard of it a guyfrom work mentioned it and he
was like check it out, like allright hooked episode 2019 that.
Episode one 2019.
That's when Apple TV wasemerging.
Oh man, dude, their peak.
Now it's like they've got allthe good shit.

Josh (01:15:21):
Murderbot comes out Friday and I am stoked to watch that.
Yep, there was something else Iwas going to.

Zach (01:15:27):
Oh, we didn't even talk about.
We went to the movies.
Yeah, thunderbolts, we sawThunderbolts and theaters.

Josh (01:15:32):
We don't have to go crazy in depth.
I don't know if we'll haveenough time to go over the
entire thing, yeah.

Zach (01:15:37):
I mean, I guess we talked about this right after we tried
to do a live stream.

Josh (01:15:44):
Yeah, the camera was wrong on the phone Immediately after
viewing on the car ride.
I'll get it.

Zach (01:15:48):
We got to figure out the lighting.
Well, the lighting and then,yeah, that's fine, yeah, it was
still fine, you know I do havethem on my wish list, so I
should get those lapel mics.
I know I got it.
I know we're terrible.
We should be fucking done withit, and that way we can get some
decent audio.
And it's not just, I mean, itwould probably sound fine on the
old iPhone.

Josh (01:16:05):
Oh, they'll do great on the iPhone iPhones are, but I
kind of, we'll just go live,we'll do it live, yeah, uh, but
anyways, uh, we went and saw it.
Big mcu fans obviously.
Um, we've talked about all themarvel stuff.
Um, I, it was a good movie, forsure good movie.
I gave it a seven and a halfzach gave it eight uh, did I

(01:16:29):
give.
Yeah, you gave it a given eight, you gave it a seven, half, I
gave an, I gave it an eight.

Zach (01:16:32):
So very close.

Josh (01:16:36):
It's not what people are going to think from the trailer.

Zach (01:16:39):
It was a good movie.

Josh (01:16:40):
It's not this high action set piece, because I think the
trailer is kind of depicted thatway.
Yeah, which I'm not saying Iwas disappointed that it wasn't.
I have plenty of high actionMarvel I've seen.
I'm kind of glad it wasn't thehigh action I thought it was
going to be.
There's a few things I wantedmore of.
Obviously Some of your.

Zach (01:16:58):
Yeah, there was no action set piece besides when they all
fought Sentry it's almost teaseda lot.

Josh (01:17:04):
You get little nibbles.
Yeah, I just never got enough.
I never got a full bite.

Zach (01:17:08):
Yeah, I would agree with that.
I think that the and we talkedabout this.
If this, that the uh, and wetalked about this, was you know
it, if this was, if this was amovie that came out the same
time as like thor and captain,america first avenger, yeah,
then it would be up there likeit would be on the same same
class.
But ever since you know, onceyou have you know in game, and
once you have some of the bigset pieces and you know, you

(01:17:29):
have, uh, even iron man, the wayit ran, like it was, it was up
there like I put it on the same,maybe, order as Iron man 3.
Iron man 3 wasn't as good.
I watched Civil War the otherday.
Civil War was fucking crazy.

Josh (01:17:41):
It was amazing and I watched Winter Soldier.

Zach (01:17:43):
Winter Soldier yeah.

Josh (01:17:46):
It fits in the glove.

Zach (01:17:47):
Yeah.

Josh (01:17:47):
It fits in there.

Zach (01:17:48):
Well, we compared it to, we were thinking that because it
was so good and the criticswere raving about it, and it was
, you know, high up on thetomato meter, on Rotten Tomatoes
that it might be like Civil Waror Winter Soldier.
Which we love because it wasn'tlike they weren't fighting
aliens or anything.

Josh (01:18:05):
No, no, it was just gritty , but it was just gritty and it
was good, it was great scenesyeah, great action scenes.

Zach (01:18:12):
I will say this one it just never reached that level,
and it was very predictable.
I think, so there's nothingthat caught me off guard.
It was very formulaic, I don'tknow it was good.

Josh (01:18:25):
It just never got there.
I will say, as far as a villaingoes, however, you want to do
it without giving a whole lotaway.
Everybody's seen the trailer,the people turning into shadow
and stuff there's more to that,but that is actually almost more
terrifying than Thanos in someways.
Yeah, because I mean you don'twant to give it away.

(01:18:47):
You're not necessarily killingpeople, it's spoil it, it's
you're.
You're living in your owndespair.

Zach (01:18:53):
It literally sends them to the shadow.
Definitely Like in your owndespair.
He literally sends them to theshadow realm.

Josh (01:18:56):
Definitely Like in your worst moments you're going to
relive it, so it's worse thandeath, like it's Even.

Zach (01:19:07):
Bob himself.
He said I found a room thatwasn't as bad.
Exactly right, but the roomthat he was in was basically
like from his past, hischildhood, where his dad was
beating his wife.

Josh (01:19:18):
You had a.
It's more.
You really saw they.
Really I don't know what theydid.
On personal, you had like a, um, a mental, a mental health
issue for one, a troubledchildhood, real trauma, drugs
and tries to be this shininglike pull the best he can out of
himself, out of it, but stillhad so many issues and we saw it

(01:19:38):
too.
It was heavy for Marvel.
Oh it was, but it was done.
I didn't feel like it was.
They were like shoving it downmy throat.
It wasn't like an, an hiddenagenda.

Zach (01:19:48):
Yeah.

Josh (01:19:49):
It was a really good character development.

Zach (01:19:56):
I'm excited to see where that character goes from here.
Yeah, because he did a greatjob.
Uh, I'm excited to see clearlythe strongest character and, uh,
we only saw so far, so we saw atablespoon, yes, but I mean
take out, like you know, uh,tiamat or whatever, or uh
whatever's the celestial, like,take celestials and the watchers
and all them out, out.
But as far as like earth beings, oh man, you know, avengers
level characters or whatever.
Humanoid, definitely thestrongest one, he's Superman

(01:20:18):
level.
That was the reading I didabout it is.

Josh (01:20:22):
He is.
I mean, he's fought in thecomic world the whole.
I mean he's.
He is one of the most powerfulin the entire thing.
Yeah, the power of a thousandsuns.
Baddest of the bad?
Yeah, it's, and you only got.
We only got a spoonful.
Yeah, baddest of the bad?
Yeah it's, and you only got.
We only got a spoonful yeah, hewas just casually, but the
problem with him being himselfis that there's a negative side
of that that comes out as well.

Zach (01:20:40):
So it's you know, like I said, I feel like I feel like a
character like that, because youplace him in in the mcu as it
is currently constructed.
There's no need to have theavengers, just send him out,
just exactly right.

Josh (01:20:51):
You just which I kind of like you had said I like that
dynamic, so they have to nerfhim somehow.

Zach (01:20:54):
I like that dynamic, you nerf him by how he has an alter
ego, he has a bipolar side.
Yeah, I mean, he really does.
He can't control if it gets out.
It's very, you know, dr.

Josh (01:21:05):
Jekyll and Mr.

Zach (01:21:06):
Hyde is very, but Bruce Banner and the Hulk, you know
he's.
So that's going to be themethod that they are going to
use to nerf him, so that theycan actually have a plot.

Josh (01:21:19):
But even in that form In future movies, you can't stop
him.

Zach (01:21:22):
No, that's what I'm saying .
He has the same abilities, soeven when he's in his other form
.
But they won't have him gofight as Cinder because they're
worried about Void getting out.

Josh (01:21:29):
Yeah, of course not.

Zach (01:21:29):
And so it's like well, you sit this one out, they'll come
up with some sort of like cause,the characters like that.
When you make them too OP, thenyou can't have a plot.
It immediately creates a plothole, exactly right.
Um, because everyone was to bethinking.
It's like why are the Avengersfighting just since century?

Josh (01:21:46):
And this is over.
I will.
I will say Florence P for mewas the shining star.
I gave her a 10 out of 10.
She was fantastic.

Zach (01:21:53):
In that movie she's the focal point.

Josh (01:21:56):
John, what's his name?
The guy who plays her?

Zach (01:21:58):
John Walker.

Josh (01:22:00):
David Harbour.
He was also second for me.
I don't know man.

Zach (01:22:06):
Them together are awesome anyways, he brought the humor
and I think most people criticsthat was the main thing that he
says.

Josh (01:22:14):
It was very funny and it was Red Guardian that brought on
the john the john the walker,john walker I played a great ass
I actually grew more fond ofhim as the movie went on yes,
his character like at first Iwas like he's just kind of
douchey.
But as he kind of developedthrough, I actually kind of fell
for the dude.
I was like, all right, thisokay I, I he's got his heart is
in the right place.

(01:22:34):
But he's, you know, he's in thebackwash of captain america.
He's not the second captainamerica.
He's, you know, killed somebodylike yeah, this whole thing,
and he's just stewed in thiswhole thing, right.
But I, I really enjoyed him onscreen a lot, I think.

Zach (01:22:50):
I think he's cool yeah, he grows on you, because, I mean,
the last time we saw him is inthat terrible show, yes, falcon
and Winter Soldier.

Josh (01:22:58):
Awful.

Zach (01:22:59):
And in that one he plays a total fucking chode Yep Right,
and so that's really kind ofwhat you— I really thought
that's what we were going to get.

Josh (01:23:05):
That's what we were going to get In this one at first,
when he first came on screen—but then you kind of started to
like he's not a bad dude.

Zach (01:23:13):
The only, the only character that didn't really
have any development whatsoevernot really was ghost I don't
know, she wasn't even in the endcredits not really.
I mean, get her powers are coolthough well, apparently I
forgot, the suit contains her.
Yes it's cool it is she looked?
Awesome, cool and I I do likeher and but I just she was just

(01:23:35):
kind of there as because theyneeded, you know, an ensemble
hero group I could have gonewithout, and I guess having you
know more with is better thanless it was.
It was not a good number.
What without?

Josh (01:23:45):
her.
There was a few scenes that shewas pivotal for yeah, sure,
obviously, but like other thanthat it's a little forgettable.

Zach (01:23:50):
She moved the plot along, but she didn't have any
character arc no not really ofcourse bucky is bucky, bucky.
He's awesome, awesome he is,and that people were right when
I, when I read some critics andsome reviews about it is like
this is you know bucky's back?

Josh (01:24:06):
it's like he's the man is him back.
I just watched back in the warand he's yeah, now watch what.

Zach (01:24:11):
He is one of the baddest, coolest characters the only bad
part again, this is my only realrap on the movie is that and I
think you said it right we justgot nibbles.
We didn't get a full bite,that's right, and I didn't get
enough of Bucky.
You got one good scene, but itwas a flash in the pan.
It came and went.

Josh (01:24:28):
You really didn't.

Zach (01:24:29):
I just kept waiting for like, oh shit, that was fucking
cool.
That's kind of my same beefwith Andor is.
I'm like I'm just waiting forsomething cool to happen.

Josh (01:24:38):
But if this after we go see in July, when we go see
Fantastic Four, because this wasthe end of Phase Five, so Phase
Six is.
We looked at it's only fourmovies.
Yeah.

Zach (01:24:49):
So, this is the end.
Yeah, it's Fantastic FourDoomsday.
It was not a.

Josh (01:24:53):
Yeah, and the Secret Wars.

Zach (01:24:54):
What was the other one?
Spider-man?
Spider-man, then Spider-Man andthe Secret Wars.

Josh (01:24:58):
So really, if this is a, it's not a bad way to end Phase
5.
I don't think it's bad.
We've had a lot of fillerbullshit in the Marvel world,
but this one, I think, ended itwell.
The end credits scene I set upfor something in the future and
then yeah, but it's.
I'm almost I'm split half andhalf, like I wanted more action.

(01:25:19):
But then I'm like I'm glad Ididn't, like I didn't want the
typical mc.
I wanted to see if this wouldbring back some of the old
feelings from from our, our mcuthat we all love well, I think
we'll.

Zach (01:25:28):
We'll talk about the end credit scene.
Was the the?
You know the end of the movie.
Um well, first of all, let meback up the end of brave new
world, captain America, bravenew world.
At the end of that, sam Wilsondecides cause he'd been asked
and he was reluctant throughoutthe movie, but he finally gets
to the end.
He's like he's going to restartthe Avengers, right, and so

(01:25:49):
he's.
He's, he is the Captain Americacurrently, america currently,
and he takes on a protege whobecomes the Falcon now, right.
So then, so the other, you havethe two characters that are
going to be the, the progenitorsof the new Avengers, supposedly
, and so that's where we kind ofleave that movie.

(01:26:09):
At the end, he's going to startthe Avengers, that's the
assumption.
And at the end of Thunderboltsthey do the same thing.
It's the new Avengers, the newAvengers, that's the assumption.
And at the end of Thunderbolts,they do the same thing.

Josh (01:26:15):
It's the new Avengers, that's what the asterisk is
right.

Zach (01:26:18):
In the title.

Josh (01:26:19):
Which is a better team.
They're the new.

Zach (01:26:21):
Avengers, but then in the end credit scene in Thunderbolts
there's clearly a clash becauseSam Wilson's already doing the
Avengers, apparently, like RedGuardian joked that they did a
copyright, so his big answer tothat is that we were going to be
the Avengers, but with a Z andso you know copyright.

Josh (01:26:36):
Bucky and Sam are not on talking.
They're not on talking terms.

Zach (01:26:39):
Apparently, I guess and maybe that's, maybe that is
because of there's doing twodifferent Avenger groups or
something.
I don't know.
They don't really, becausethere's no reason for them to.
I watched brave new world.

Josh (01:26:51):
There was no reason for them to beef, it must go deeper.
Maybe, Sam asked him to jointhem and he's like, no, we have
this team.
And then he did, but then heended up joining with I don't
know.
It could be something like that.

Zach (01:27:01):
We haven't seen it because I don't know where the conflict
came from.
But that's a good point.
So clearly, what they'resetting up is there's multiple
Avenger groups, and so who'sgoing to like are they going to
coalesce together?
Who's going to kind of likeelevate to supremacy?
It could be the actual Avengersgroup.
And at the end credit scene inThunderbolts they are about to

(01:27:23):
respond to a galactic threat.
I think is what they're saying.

Josh (01:27:26):
Apparently they said the foreign peace care.
There was a lot of spaceactivity.

Zach (01:27:31):
And obviously this was sort of like temporal fucking
portal that ends up happeningand the fantastic four ship
comes out.

Josh (01:27:36):
They see the ship and it's got a number four on the side
of it Number four on the side.

Zach (01:27:39):
We don't know if it's fantastic for somebody else, but
we know.
But that's the fantastic fourship.
Your theory is that it's Dr.

Josh (01:27:44):
So I, we, I sent you that theory that that guy on that
podcast had said that he thinksis in that ship version of doom
from.
Because if for you guys to knowif you've seen the trailer for
and we had to, I had to lookthis up if you've seen the
trailer for the new fantasticfour, is it called fantasy four
begins or the beginning, thefull new new begins, something
anyway.
So when you see that it's setin an alternate universe, that's

(01:28:09):
why it looks the way it does asfar as it looks 60s 50s, but
also new tech like space traveland all so, but it is a
alternate, it's another universe.
Yes, because we were allwondering, like, how is that
going to tie?
Well, that's what happens.
They can punch through becauseobviously the multiverse yes is
now its own variance.
It's all out here so that's whathappens?

(01:28:30):
the ship comes through, but wedon't know.

Zach (01:28:32):
And they because the thunderbolts even they mention
something, they say the word uh,interdimensional, yeah.
So all that's open, this is allopen everybody knows that this
is.

Josh (01:28:40):
It's a massive world, right, so the ship comes in,
that's where it ends.
So now starting phase six,fantastic four in july, which we
will go see.
Yes, that'll be the, the rev upfor this.
So hopefully we're thinking I,I think you had called as well,
you may get something in credit.
Scene of doom.
So we don't know where he isLike do they already know?

(01:29:02):
Cause?
In the, in the other filmswe've seen, doom knows the.
The group, like Reed Richardsis his arch nemesis, basically
eventually.
But we don't know where he is.
Is he locked up, is he not?
Is he not in this world?
Is he going to be in it all?
Galactus is the big bad in thisone.

Zach (01:29:18):
Doctor Doom may not be in Fantastic Four in any capacity.

Josh (01:29:21):
May not be at all.
They are filming.

Zach (01:29:23):
The idea, though, I think, with the multiple Avengers
group, and then what they had inthe ending credits scene and
what you sent me, where theyspeculate that that isn't the
Fantastic four.
That's actually dr doom in thatship, so let's just go run with
that.
My idea that I'm thinking islike let's say that's dr doom.
Well, we already know thatthat's tony's.
That's going to be robertdowney jr playing dr doom victor

(01:29:43):
of their so it's a variantwhere it's a variant where where
uh tony stark becomes dr doomin this universe, he comes to
our universe and I guess Earth616, right, because that's the
main universe, Apparently Earth.

Josh (01:29:57):
in case you guys don't know, 616 is where all of our
movies have been happening.

Zach (01:30:00):
Yeah, so that's the.
So the idea is that that DrDoom shows up, I guess he shows
up and everybody's like, oh fuck, that's Tony Stark, right.
And so Dr Doom being kind ofsuper smart, also Tony Stark
super smart, and also both ofthem kind of manipulative as
well, one for evil purposes, onefor good purposes that this

(01:30:23):
Tony Stark playing Dr Doom wouldtake this opportunity to
develop the Dark Avengers, right, posing as the new Avengers,
and so my posing as the newAvengers.
And so my thinking is wealready have two other Avengers
factions battling for supremacyto be who's going to be the

(01:30:43):
Earth's Mightiest Heroes, right?
And then you have a third, youhave Tony Stark, dr Doom.
You know quote in parentheses DrDoom shows up and restarts the
Avengers as well, and so mythinking is that that's going to
be Doom's Day, is going to bekind of it's actually not Tony
Stark's Doom, is not actuallythe Doctor Doom, it is a Tony

(01:31:06):
Stark variant that comes to ouruniverse, starts the Dark
Avengers, battles it out withthe other Avengers groups.
Maybe there's some trickerythat happens or whatever, but we
don't actually see, and that'llbe the whole plot line for
Doomsday is Avengers groupsfighting each other.
It's almost like a Civil WarPart Deux.

(01:31:26):
I'm okay with it.
Yeah, I think it'd be cool.
I think that we will notactually get the real Doctor
Doom, maybe not even in Doomsday.
We may not get it until SecretWars.

Josh (01:31:36):
or get the real dr doom, maybe not even in doomsday we
may not get it till secret warsor maybe it'll tease somewhere
in the middle of the creditscene.
Have you looked up secret?

Zach (01:31:40):
wars some that's the much bigger movie that's the bigger
movie, that's the I mean, that'sthe end game level, that's the
yes, we're talking about war,new world bringing together,
yeah, but I mean doomsday has ahuge cast.

Josh (01:31:49):
It does like infinity it's gonna be big.

Zach (01:31:51):
It does, um, both.
Bruce our is doing both ofthose, so it's going to be huge.
But that's my speculation is itseems like they're they're
setting the stage for Avengersgroups to Duke it out in
doomsday, is my guess, and thendoom will have a Dr Doom, the
real one, maybe, maybe even theTony Stark one, or maybe he's

(01:32:11):
just a variant.
They'll end up having theparliament of doom and there'll
be the you know, basically theevil group.
And, um, cause I, I've, I've,I've told you this before.
I don't think that they'regoing to, they're going to have
to explain the King, the councilof Kings, that they did at the
end of quantum mania.

Josh (01:32:26):
Well, he'll be origin the comics.
That's what I'm saying.

Zach (01:32:32):
So I think I think they will have to tie that up.
With jonathan majors exitingthe mcu and they ditched the
king dynasty and they change itto doomsday.
But king and dr doom have avery similar you.
I can see how they could easilyswap in dr doom but keep some
of the main plot elements, likethe multiverse and the council

(01:32:52):
of kings.
They're just going to have theparliament of doom and have all
of the doom variants instead ofthe King variants, warring for
supremacy, right, essentially.
So I think that that's whatthey're going to they're going
to end doing, and so that's thereason why I think that that now
I've told you this I don't knowif we said this on the show,
but that's the reason why therewas multiple when they announced

(01:33:12):
who's going to be Dr Doomduring Comic-Con I think it was
Comic-Con, it was that, uh, inRobert Downey, downey Jr Took
off the mask and then startedthis whole controversy.
He wasn't just up there byhimself as Dr Doom and then
ripped off his mask.
He was up there with like 30other people in the Dr Doom
costume.
Well, why did they do that?
For effect?
No, I think they were hintingat the fact that there's

(01:33:35):
multiple.

Josh (01:33:35):
Yeah, which I like better, but he'll be playing four
different characters.
Yeah, they've already come on,so that the next day after you
said that, yep.

Zach (01:33:43):
And if you look at the doom, if you look at the doom
cast list and you see thecharacters are playing.
Steve Rogers is coming back,but he's also playing captain
Hydra, yep, everyone playinglike the evil, dark Avengers
variant version of themselves.
So that's the reason why I'mthinking the way.
I'm thinking that Tony Stark'sgoing to show up as Dr Doom into
our six one six universe andhe's going to.
He's dig his way in Tony Starkin six one six is he's a martyr.

(01:34:08):
He's like the most known likehe.

Josh (01:34:10):
It's going to call out everybody.
He snapped everybody.

Zach (01:34:13):
So he is like you know he's he's going to cause some
confusion.
He snapped everybody back, it'sgoing to cause some.

Josh (01:34:16):
So he is like the fucking Pope, he's like Jesus, or we're
wrong, and that is the fantastic.

Zach (01:34:18):
And if everyone's going to follow him immediately and
there's going to be controversy,I'm like, well, is this really
the Tony Stark?

Josh (01:34:23):
And I think Dr Doom, being super smart, is going to lean
into that and he's going tomanipulate everybody and he's
going to do or that's my guess,it's actually the Fantastic Four
in there- or I'm completelywrong.
And they're coming to warn thatwe had to get out because
Galactus is too hard, or Doomshows up and kills Galactus and

(01:34:45):
it's fucking crazy.

Zach (01:34:46):
I don't know, who knows.
So the end credit scene forThunderbolts could be the ending
of Fantastic Four, or it couldbe the beginning.
It could be their initial trip.

Josh (01:34:58):
I don't know.
It's pretty sweet.
I think it's the ending.
My voting is the ending ofFantastic Four, I think.
Ending two.

Zach (01:35:05):
That's my guess.
I think they have to leave forsome reason.
Because if they show up toEarth-616 in the beginning,
before they get their powers,what happens in 616 to where
they get their power?

Josh (01:35:15):
They may have to go and find help with their situation.

Zach (01:35:18):
Yeah, I think it's.
I think is an end thing.
I think somebody is escaping,whatever universe that is the
fantastic four is in and they'reescaping.
Maybe it's the fantastic four.
Whoever's in that ship isescaping that universe into six,
one, six but I would definitelyrecommend watching it if you
guys have any.

Josh (01:35:34):
If you have any, don't let us.
We're not downplaying it.

Zach (01:35:39):
It's a good movie everybody's making this, saying
this that it was the secondhighest rated to endgame.
It may be rated that waybecause it's a good movie but it
is not the same level ofexcitement as endgame.

Josh (01:35:54):
You don't get chills.
I never got chills, I never gotexcitement.

Zach (01:35:58):
I never got tears of awesome joy.
It's not as cool as WinterSoldier.
Like I said, I think I put iton the same level as the first
Thor, the first Captain America,maybe the first Iron man.
It's a prerequisite.

Josh (01:36:09):
It builds off these characters that by the end of it
, I'm a huge fan of themtogether.
Yes, but by the end of it, I'ma huge fan of them together.

Zach (01:36:14):
Yes.

Josh (01:36:15):
More so than I was in Black Widow.
I have a new respect for allthe characters, even Bucky.
It's good.

Zach (01:36:22):
Side note Julia Louis-Drives' character.
I appreciate that character.
I like that character a lotbecause I like that.
There's a character in therethat is very Nick Fury-like in
the sense that she's utilitarian.
She's not really good or bad,she is doing Valentina de

(01:36:46):
Fontaine, she is doing thingsfor the ends justify the means.
She will do whatever it takesto a uh elevate her own profile
because, in her mind, she's theonly one suited to handle these
level threats right.

Josh (01:37:05):
Yes.

Zach (01:37:06):
Thanos had the kind of the same mentality.
He just went the wrong way.
He's like the universe issolely dying and killing itself.
There's not enough resourcesgoing around.
I'm the only one that can seeit around.
I'm the only one that can seeit.
I'm the only one that can dosomething about it.
She has that same kind ofmentality.
Tony stark kind of had thatsame mentality.
That's reason why he made theiron legion, um, and then, uh,
obviously nick fury has thatkind of yeah, so she's not

(01:37:28):
necessarily a step ahead, andhe's always into everything.
She's kind of the same level,yeah, except she's newer onto
the scene and she's goingthrough a political level she's
selfish, but when they did alittle flashback in her own.
You can see why she thinks theway she does.

Josh (01:37:44):
I had a new respect for her, because at first I'm like
look at this bitch well, she'strying for her status yes, but
she, I actually kind of I likeher I like the character.

Zach (01:37:51):
she's not very black and white, uh, she's very practical.
She pragmatic, and the one linethat she says that sums up her
character.
She says there's no good guys,there's no bad guys, there's bad
guys and worse guys.

Josh (01:38:03):
Yeah, and she's not wrong, right.

Zach (01:38:06):
It's basically saying like nobody, like there's no true,
like altruistic, like you know,perfect little angel people,
like everyone's got like somedarkness to them, but you do the
best you can I'm readingbetween the lines here.
You do the best you can becausethere's worse people out there.

Josh (01:38:21):
She's a good addition.
I like her in the show.
I liked her in the movie a lot.

Zach (01:38:24):
You need that character.
You can't have everybody, justbe bad and good.

Josh (01:38:27):
There wasn't bad casting anywhere.
The whole movie is.
There's no bad anything.
It's cool.

Zach (01:38:32):
No, I think it was good.
It's a cool-ass movie.

Josh (01:38:35):
I would agree.
I'll watch it again when itcomes out.

Zach (01:38:39):
My only disappointment is spoiler.
I'm just going to spoil it.
Taskmaster dies early.

Josh (01:38:46):
Yeah, that was really a come-out card.

Zach (01:38:47):
I kind of wish we got Taskmaster a little bit more.

Josh (01:38:52):
I wasn't happy with the way they went with that
character.

Zach (01:38:54):
I was fine with the character dying necessarily, but
you know it was just dies early.
That's a cool character.
I don't like how it's cast.

Josh (01:39:03):
I don't like the anything backstory.
I don't like any of it.

Zach (01:39:07):
I like comic, accurate Taskmaster but that's such a
cool character.
I don't think they did itjustice.
Actually, I went back andwatched some scenes from Black
Widow.
Definitely did it justice inBlack Widow.
It was so much cooler 100% does, and I think that was my
disappointment with this movieis it's just the maybe, the
action choreography and theaction set pieces.

(01:39:28):
I was like they just weren't asgood good, they weren't as
creative, as inventive andexciting as past movies.

Josh (01:39:34):
I just don't think it was supposed to be that kind of
movie.
I guess, I think they intendedit to be more story-driven,
which really was.
It wasn't.
Like you and I just said,there's not any high-action set
pieces.

Zach (01:39:44):
A lot of what they did wasn't really like
superhero-level moves.
We've seen those same moves thelauncher.
We've seen all that, yeah he'svery strong and you see that
when they save people, butnothing's nothing, except
whenever he blocks that car.
That was like rolling down thestreet.

Josh (01:40:01):
So he has this like one show of strength, but I just
watched I mean today, I waswatching civil war and the
stairwell fight in the apartment.
Oh my god, I mean he's a, Imean he's a month, I mean he is
a super soldier yes.
Yes, the abilities he showsthere and even Cap.

Zach (01:40:17):
It does not translate to what we see now, the only time
they showcase like oh, the onlytime you were reminded like, oh,
these guys have the supersoldier serum in them is when
they were like lifting a heavyrock or blocking some debris.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Well, taking the hits, takingthe hits sure.
But like I don't know, I justfeel like there was any.

(01:40:38):
You know, I want to see oneperson throw a fucking car or
whatever.

Josh (01:40:42):
And maybe we'll get more of that as it goes on.
Maybe we'll get to see them atmax maybe.
But I kind of think to some ofthe action, Like it is a very
like what they're doing isincredible, but we've seen them
do much more.
So it's like, yeah, but I'veseen you like run 60 miles an

(01:41:04):
hour and catch a motorcycle withone arm and get back on it.
Yeah right, there was no coolmove like that I just watched
that you know and maybe he's Idon't know, he's Congressman
Barnes, I don't know.
I think we'll get stuff lateron.
I think we will.

Zach (01:41:16):
It's like everybody got nerfed and it depends on what
they're doing.

Josh (01:41:20):
Like if he's only saving people.
It's like, do I really need todo like?
Do I need to overexert, likeyou?

Zach (01:41:31):
know he tries to go and fight Century and he the one
cool scene that he did, and sothat's the reason I was like, uh
, it happened earlier in themovie or maybe in the middle and
that's the reason.
Maybe I forgot about it.
But when Bucky does show up onthe motorcycle, I forgot the one
cool thing he did do that waslike unique.
That's what I was looking for.
I was looking for somecreativity.
In a fight scene, you orthrowing something or lifting

(01:41:53):
something heavy or flying acrossthe screen or whatever.
We've seen that all before.
I want to see somethingcreative that only this
character could do.
You know what I mean?
Yes, that kind of stuff, andBucky did do.
One really cool thing is whenhe dropped that winch on that
truck.

Josh (01:42:07):
That was cool, and so that truck was going and he grabbed
it up.

Zach (01:42:10):
He pulls it down, he wrapped it around his arm and
then just punched the ground, so, you like, anchored it into the
ground and flip that with hisown strength with his own
strength.

Josh (01:42:18):
That was cool, so you do get, so you do know how strong
he is, yeah.
Like it's.
Everyone knows that, and so isthe red guardian.
I mean they're.
They're both enhanced humans.

Zach (01:42:28):
Yes.

Josh (01:42:28):
Like it's, yeah, but is not, like it was in Civil War
and Winter Soldier.
Those fight scenes were on awhole level.
But good movie though.
Great movie Worth going to seein theaters.
I actually missed going to thetheater.
That was really fun getting todo that again.

Zach (01:42:45):
We've talked about this.
We're going to try to do thatmore.
We used to go try to seeeverything get on the marquee.

Josh (01:42:50):
May's not great.
Like I said, we need to go seestuff.
There's some horror movie likeWeapons.
I really want to go see Weapons.

Zach (01:42:58):
We need to make a point to go see at least every other
week, twice a month.

Josh (01:43:01):
I guess you could say oh yeah, we can do that Something
in theaters For sure, so we canmaybe plan for the next thing
that's coming up.

Zach (01:43:09):
We'll need to get a calendar together If, if they
want to.

Josh (01:43:11):
I've told everybody just to send me messages to the
Instagram.
Let me know if there'ssomething you guys are
interested in or, you know, ify'all want to tag along for a
movie just let us know.
We're a fun hang.
Just tell us when y'all want.
What do y'all want to go see,and we'll go see it.

Zach (01:43:27):
Um, I need to watch.
Uh, start with Casablanca.

Josh (01:43:32):
You won't make it through, gone with the Wind?
Okay, you won't.
It's not your cup of tea at all, dude, you're going to hate it.
Okay, casablanca you'll like,but you're going to hate Gone
with the Wind.
I will be the judge of thatYou're going to hate.
Gone with the Wind.

Zach (01:43:43):
Well, I think I need to watch Gone with the Wind, so I
can rant about it?

Josh (01:43:49):
Fuck, quick, shout out before we tie it all up.
Shout out Selma Hayek for beingon Sports Illustrated and being
hot, and for one, please, withyour modest bullshit, or
whatever you want to call it,when she was like you know, when
I was young and hot.
And now what do you mean?
And now, yeah, what planet?
And that you were talking about?
Her body is not like a model,are we?

(01:44:11):
seeing the same person she'slike what?

Zach (01:44:13):
59 or some shit.
How old is she?

Josh (01:44:15):
No, she's almost Hold on.
I sent it to you guys today onour guy chat.

Zach (01:44:22):
She says that she's like if you've met someone your age,
she looks better than most youngpeople.

Josh (01:44:27):
That's what I'm saying Actually I think oh, I shared it
on our podcast page today.
Hold on, she is.
Sounds like you're justwatching porn.
I'm not.
It's her, it's from her photoshoot, but like she's absolutely
I mean outstanding, Like one ofthe most beautiful women I've
ever seen in my life.
Definitely not this.

(01:44:47):
Yeah, she's not that fucking.
What is that thing?

Zach (01:44:52):
Oh my god, she's 58.

Josh (01:44:54):
58.
So my guess is 58 years old andshe looks better than most
20-year-olds.
Everything's still perky andtight.
She looks absolutely stunningand for her to say she doesn't
think so, she's just trying tobe fucking nice.
What planet are you on?
And I know all you other womenare going to bash her, because
women love to bash other hotwomen.
That's fine.

Zach (01:45:14):
She's obviously probably, she's probably had some work
done.

Josh (01:45:16):
Whoever did it has done a great job.

Zach (01:45:18):
She did it.
She's done it right.
She does not overdone it.
Clearly she looks absolutelystunning.
Also, that is taking care ofyourself.

Josh (01:45:25):
Yeah.

Zach (01:45:26):
But also, let's be real, that is a level of genetics.

Josh (01:45:30):
Probably a little bit.

Zach (01:45:36):
Probably probably but let's say if it was 20 of it all
, that's a trifecta you do allthose things trifecta there.

Josh (01:45:39):
That's how you can look like a fucking smoke show at 15
8 smoke show woman.
She looks incredible, yes likeshout out to you, my friend we
all appreciate it you stoppedaging when you did dust it on
you froze in time and you lookbetter than ever.

Zach (01:45:52):
Oh yeah, absolutely there's elizabeth berkeley's the
same way.
Yeah, not Elizabeth Berkley,elizabeth Hurley.

Josh (01:45:58):
That's what I said, elizabeth Hurley.

Zach (01:46:02):
Elizabeth Berkley.
She was that.
Oh shit, what was she in?
Was she in Showgirls?

Josh (01:46:08):
I don't know.
Elizabeth Berkley, I don't know.

Zach (01:46:17):
But I said it right the first time.

Josh (01:46:18):
Okay, whatever you say, oh , she's from Saved by the Bell.
Yeah, that's what I'm talkingabout.
She looks good too, anyways,yeah, so shout out to her.
I'm glad they're putting hotwomen back on Sports Illustrated
, not fucking creatures andoverweight women.

Zach (01:46:32):
I saw that it was an article or like a post where it
was Selma Hayek back on thereand also Livvy Dunn who's that
LSU gymnast, I'm aware and itwas like.
The headline was like the eraof hot women is back.

Josh (01:46:46):
It's.
I'm sorry, that's the way itshould be.

Zach (01:46:48):
I agree this.
I'm glad this was a flash inthe pan of this.
Like let's put a bunch of grosspeople on magazines.

Josh (01:46:55):
Let's accept it, and let's accept it.

Zach (01:46:57):
Like I'm not saying, like say what you want.
My thing is my thing is likeit's not like chauvinist or
misogynistic or whatever toexpect a level, a standard of
beauty on things like that.
Like I'm not saying that, likethose you I'm not saying that if
you don't look like that,you're gross, that's not what
I'm saying Don't be gross, don'tbe gross, but I'm not saying

(01:47:18):
that if you don't look exactlylike this.
you're gross.
Don't be gross.
Everybody knows what gross isright, but I feel like our
society, for the past few years,has elevated gross in order to
be transgressive.
Yeah, they're transgressivejust because they can't attain
that.
They don't want to do what'snecessary to look that way.

(01:47:40):
I mean just because you can'tget to it.

Josh (01:47:43):
It's like glorifying laziness and unhealthiness.

Zach (01:47:45):
We want to give you a trophy just for fucking existing
.
Yeah, it's like a participationtrophy.
You did nothing to earn theaccolades.

Josh (01:47:51):
Even if I can't get to the 100 she's at right, I might be
able to get to 60.
It's better than the 20 I'msitting at.

Zach (01:47:57):
It's the same reason why I can't fucking stand abstract
art.
It's the dumbest shit.
I don't care how you made it.
I've seen people where they'relike suspended from the fucking
ceiling on a rope and they puncha hole in a paint can and they
spin around a canvas that's onthe fucking floor.
That took zero skill.
You're a dumbass and they'llsell it for hundreds of
thousands of dollars becauserich people are stupid.

(01:48:19):
So, uh, I hate that shit.
That took no skill, no effortwhatsoever and you think you're
being you know artistic and andbecause no one's thought of
suspending from a fuckingceiling and spinning around with
empty you know holes and paintcans.
This is dumb.
Dumb as shit ever.
I hate it.
It's the same kind of things,but they're elevating and

(01:48:40):
promoting bullshit and puttingugly, gross, non-binary, fucking
fat people on magazines coversis bullshit.

Josh (01:48:50):
I'm sorry.
Meghan Trainor, the singer,just came out and she did some
weight loss medication and got aboob job and she just did a
performance with her new bodyshe looks great, yes and
everybody's like well, now shewas singing that song all about
the bass because she was thickerand they're like where's the
bass at now?
I'm like let's be honest, guys,thin is in yes, it's not cool
to be big she feels great.
She even said, she feels muchbetter.

Zach (01:49:10):
I'll go even further, like dude lizzo is even losing
weight, right oh well fuck methe fucking.
She was the, the biggestpromoter of, like, biggest
beautiful and if you didn'tthink, if you didn't think so.
You're a piece of shit.
Guess what?
These people, these celebritiesI'm just going to cue people in
here um, their attention horseokay, they're going to follow

(01:49:31):
where the attention is, yeah,okay.
So as soon as fat is out andthinning in, that's where
they're going to go where theattention is, yeah, okay.
So as soon as fat is out andthin that's where they're going
to go those principles go outthe fucking window.
Yeah, so this whole thing thatLizzo had were big is beautiful,
and you know she was full ofshit the entire time.

Josh (01:49:46):
It was easy to tell you.

Zach (01:49:48):
Yeah, because somebody.
It was a trend that was workingand she leaned into it and it
allowed her to be lazy and nothave to work out and eat right
and take care of herself, andshe was trying to convince
everybody that that big isbeautiful and all this kind of
stuff like that.
It was a lie, it was bullshit,we all knew it, and as soon as
the tides turn, she went with it.
So, uh, her principles went outthe fucking window, yeah.

Josh (01:50:11):
Yep, I'm over it.
I'm over it too, I just, Idon't give a shit anymore.

Zach (01:50:15):
And I say all this knowing exactly what I look like.
But I'm also not looking forattention, I'm not putting
myself on magazine coverage.

Josh (01:50:22):
But dudes are also different.
Women bash their own group,like we talked about this the
other day, where everybodybashes Sidney Sweeney.
They just bash the shit out ofher.
They're like, well, if shedidn't have all.
But when we see a good lookingdude, it's like my fuck, you
look good dude.
Yeah, exactly.
If I go buy a magazine and Isee some dude, it looks great.
I'm not like, well, look atthis piece of shit trying to
have this unobtainable bot.

Zach (01:50:42):
I'm like dude looks pretty good and if it doesn't affect
me, and if it didn't matter andwe just put ugly people on tv,
all the ugly and fat people ontv.
What's the point of fuckingmovie stars, dude?
You know what?
Know what I'm saying?

Josh (01:50:55):
We've said it before Attractive people make
everything better.
They do you tell me right nowwhen you go to a restaurant or
you go anywhere in a businessand the person is attractive,
you'll remember it way more.

Zach (01:51:03):
I'll go even more basic Do it.
You go to the fucking grocerystore and you go to the produce
aisle and you're looking atfruit.
You always pick the ones thatlook good, even though it's all
the same shit, dude, justbecause a banana has a couple
little brown spots on it Inside,it's probably the exact same
fucking banana as the other one.

Josh (01:51:22):
Well, it's the same thing when you go to the gym.

Zach (01:51:25):
A misshapen tomato is going to taste just like a
perfectly round one, but you'regoing to buy the perfectly round
one, but you're going to buythe perfectly round one.

Josh (01:51:32):
Same thing when you go to the gym.
Another woman, the perfectlyround one.
Same thing when you go to thegym and the other woman will be
like I can't believe she'swearing that.
I'm like I can, I can fuckingbelieve it, because if you look
like that, you would fuckingwear it too.
Right, whether or not it's forattention or her own personal
whatever, who cares, it looksawesome.
Yes, would you rather see that.
Or that rotund man or womanover there?
Yes, what would you rather see?
The hot chick or the hot dude?

Zach (01:51:53):
Fuck off and I've said this before it's like if you
were born ugly.
You can't help it.
You can't help it.
You can't help ugly.
You can't help how tall you are.

Josh (01:51:59):
But you don't have to be gross, that's right.
You do not have to be gross, noone was born gross.
Well, I mean, it's kind ofgross when you're born.
don't want to admit it, I admitit you know, I mean, I'm not
saying, I'm walking around.
Yeah, we do.
I'm not walking around like I'ma 10 or anything, but if I was
like a three, I'd be a three.

Zach (01:52:20):
But I would try my best to be a four right, but I wouldn't
know that I'm not a 10 and andlook, saying everything you know
, but for if you're on screen ithelps like you need to be
attractive I'm sorry, I meanattractive people even
statistically make more money,especially in sales, than ugly
people.
Yeah, exactly, it is a natural.

(01:52:40):
For some people it's anatural-born talent.
We'll just say that it'ssomething that they just have
because they were born that way.
Some people don't necessarily,and they develop themselves and
we've seen glow-ups before right, where actors or actresses they
have have a glow up phase andthey're like holy shit,
impressive who is this?
right, it's great, um and soit's not something that you, you

(01:53:02):
know, just born with or youdon't have.
You can develop attractivenessand and look really hot or
whatever.
Uh, and they have their place.
I don't necessarily need mydoctor to be smoke smoking hot.
I need my doctor to be reallyfucking smart and not a dick.
That's what I need.
So that fits there.
But if you're hot, then ifyou're on screen, you need to be

(01:53:24):
hot.
We've said it before.

Josh (01:53:26):
Just show runs on attractive people and make
everything better.

Zach (01:53:31):
There's a reason why in pharmaceutical sales they're all
hot women.

Josh (01:53:36):
Don't think for a minute, if I didn't open a business,
that I would not have allattractive people.
Yes, sorry, right, I mean.

Zach (01:53:45):
You go to and this is not really like a hot or not
conversation, but it's likepresentable and not presentable.
Yeah, if you want to boil itdown to, you go to a fucking I
don't know.
Hardee's in the middle offucking nowhere and you're like
ugh, I don't know if I want toeat this food because of who's
making it.
You know what I'm saying?
You go to any fuckingChick-fil-A.

(01:54:06):
They've got it fucking down.

Josh (01:54:08):
Everyone in there is clean , cut, but everybody's clean.
It's not necessarily hot, noteverybody's hot.
That's my point.

Zach (01:54:13):
No, of course not, but they're well put together.

Josh (01:54:16):
They're presentable.
That's right, that's right,you're damn right.
It matters, it does matter.
Well, I mean take for instance,like I don't wear work attire.

Zach (01:54:28):
I dress like I'm going to battle.

Josh (01:54:29):
I don't mean to knock on Hardee's, battle the bands every
day I do.
I dress like I'm going to warptour, but also make sure I'm
shaved, my hair's done, my faceis done, like I make sure that
if I'm gonna look but like yougot to do something yeah, you
got you got you know you,sometimes you ain't for up for
it that day.

Zach (01:54:45):
Yeah, it's not to be all the time right but if you, yeah,
exactly, fucking babe, you know, if you forget to shave that
day, okay, fine, whatever uh,that's fine, I think we just
don't live in gross people yes,that's the, that's my thing fuck
it's gross people.

Josh (01:54:58):
I'm not a bit.

Zach (01:54:59):
We probably sound shallow, like you know you see, you know
, everyone has has come acrossthe person where you're like.
Well, you're not a terriblelooking person but, like you,
clearly haven't bathed in threedays your hair's greasy you
haven't brushed your teeth um.
Your clothes are wrinkled um.
That's like disheveled.
Let's give a shit.
Did not give a fuck you couldthere's.

Josh (01:55:19):
You know those people you can make, you can make.
Do you want to?

Zach (01:55:22):
be around those people.
No, no you don't?

Josh (01:55:24):
I mean, we just saw in thunderbolts florence was in a
sweatsuit with combat boots andshe looked smoking hot.
Yes, but she wasn't gross, itwasn't wasn't gross wasn't gross
.

Zach (01:55:33):
Everybody in that, in Everybody in the movie.
I didn't see anybody.
That was gross, you know why?

Josh (01:55:38):
Because no one wants to watch Thunderbolts with gross
people no.
We just go to Walmart.
No, we're really shallow.
Yeah, I know, maybe that's theproblem.
I don't give a shit.

Zach (01:55:48):
I don't give a fuck.
It's what I feel.
It's right now I feel gross.

Josh (01:55:53):
To be honest, we just like hot women.
I think that's the problem.

Zach (01:55:55):
Yes, the women get high fives.

Josh (01:56:00):
They're so cool.
The women get high fives,they're so cool.

Zach (01:56:03):
The men get open mouthed.

Josh (01:56:04):
I think I told Jacob that a few weeks ago I was like dude,
hot women are so cool yeah.

Zach (01:56:10):
Cool women are cool too.

Josh (01:56:12):
Oh yeah, cool, hot chick.
That's awesome too.
Yeah, that's hard to come by.
It is, I think, I don't know.
Uh, they're out there.
I don't actively search.
Yeah, no, that's true.
Our instagram feed is full ofthem.
Yeah, I think none of them mayeven speak english.
I have no idea.

Zach (01:56:28):
Yeah well okay, well, hot people are cool yeah, that's
true, um, and women don't.
Women don't act like you don'thave these standards in your
head to relax, because I hear itall the time where you know
they, I can see it.
You guys have just.
You guys have your ownstandards.
They're just different thanours.
Yeah Right, I've, I knowthere's people that are really

(01:56:54):
attractive, great people, right.
But for some reason women havethis and I think it definitely
has to be like an evolutionarything or something.
But if you're tall, it makeseverything different.
Tall is like the hot for women.
You know what I'm saying.
If you're tall, you'reimmediately hot.
Yeah, even if you're goofy,kind of goofy looking, or if you

(01:57:15):
have a boat, if you of goofylooking or if you have a boat,
right if you have a boat, if youhave a boat, you could be four
foot two.
Yes, yes, you need a boat, bro,it's like uh, six it's like six
foot six inches, six figuressix figures or a schooner, and
then, uh, you didn't buy a boat.

Josh (01:57:32):
I do need to get a boat.
If you got a boat, tell you man, the fucking women come out of
nowhere, dude, you know whatwould have happened?
I've asked women.
You know what would have?

Zach (01:57:38):
happened.
If I got a boat, I would besailing by myself or on a boat
by myself.
I would wreck the thing anddrown.

Josh (01:57:45):
Not true, not true.
I'll wear a life jacket.
Okay, and they're like oh yeah,I'd be out there.

Zach (01:57:52):
I'd be out on our boat with like a bunch of like women
bikinis or whatever, and thenfucking b would would stroll up
in a fucking paddle boat andtake them all from me I don't
think so.

Josh (01:58:01):
He would just board the boat with you and probably take
the boat and you'd be theskipper, and then he put me in
there.

Zach (01:58:05):
I'd have to row myself back to shore.

Josh (01:58:07):
But they would dude.
I've asked women before, andthey're like oh, it's anytime we
can get in the sun, drink andwe're there.
They don't care what that dudelooks like.
They've told me they would goout on a boat with an ugly dude
If he had a boat.
I've fucking seen it at thelake, it's the boat.

Zach (01:58:24):
It's being out in bikinis being in the sun, the water, the
alcohol.

Josh (01:58:28):
It's other women.

Zach (01:58:30):
I think they're cosplaying .
I think they're LARPing.

Josh (01:58:32):
There's been a rise in women dating uglier men than
themselves because they're nicer, they treat them better and
they like the idea of being semi, not worshipped but appreciated
more, because the man's not somuch focused on himself looks
wise.

Zach (01:58:47):
Well, last summer it was the summer of what was it Like?
Rat face guys or guys that looklike uh, oh, you're talking
about the pete davidson.
Pete davidson yes, and thenthere was um, uh, uh, what's his
name?
Um, jeremy allen white.
Yeah, then the bear yeah right,he has a, you know.

(01:59:09):
So there was like ugly likeugly rat guys were like in that
last summer man my god pullwomen, man my.

Josh (01:59:16):
God MGK got old Megan pregnant.
Oh, I know, I do like his music.
I like Pete Davidson.
I think he's a cool dude.
Yeah, I think he's probablycool.

Zach (01:59:25):
I told you I saw him in a bar once, but I think they pull
ass yeah.
Yeah, but again like PeteDavidson, I mean I've heard
people say women say guys arelike this guy really has to keep
pulling.

Josh (01:59:37):
They're not intimidating either.

Zach (01:59:38):
But women have been saying it and they say it's because
he's funny and he's nice.
He's not a dick to them.
I can talk to him.
He's presentable, he's notgross.
Yeah Right, clearly he may notbe.
He's not the most attractivedude, obviously he.
Clearly he may not be the mostattracted dude.
Obviously he's weird looking.
But here's the thing that theydon't mention.

(01:59:59):
That really is secretly what'sgoing on here.
The motherfucker's tall he istall.

Josh (02:00:03):
That's what brings him in.

Zach (02:00:04):
Both of them are tall, that's the thing is that they
don't understand.
That's the honey, that's thefly trap.

Josh (02:00:09):
I don't know.
I've never been tall.
He's tall, me neither.

Zach (02:00:11):
He's tall, it brings them in.
And then if you don't haveanything to offer at that, at
that point, if you're not funny,you're not interesting, you're
not charming, you're not nice,then they'll fucking be like
okay, well, he's just a tall,boring dickhead, I'm out of here
.
But tall brings them in anddon't let them fool you.
That's exactly what's happening.
Then, once they get in there,the six figures, the, the

(02:00:33):
personality, the be funny,something you gotta have
something else.

Josh (02:00:36):
You can't be just tall but that's what brings them in.
I honestly have no idea whatwomen are looking for anymore.

Zach (02:00:42):
Well, and this is also, I have no what I just said
probably applies to, like youknow, 60% of women, and then
there's another 20 that don'tgive a flying fuck, and there's
another 20 that that they're alot more diverse, I think, as
far as viewpoint and things theylike and don't like, than we
are.
Most men would agree.
Sidney Sweeney is hot as fuck.

(02:01:03):
You know, what I'm saying 99%.

Josh (02:01:07):
Yeah 99.5%.

Zach (02:01:09):
Yeah, the only ones that don't are gay.
Good call, but women havevarious viewpoints on what's
what a hot man is or a hot chickor a hot chick because they
bash her in the ground theysmell.

Josh (02:01:24):
I just don't see it right, all right well, we're a lot
more uh we're.

Zach (02:01:28):
We're definitely more uniform and what we find hot.
I mean we have varying degreesor whatever, but they like uh
women, I think it's it's um amuch wider range of what's
attractive.
I agree uh to them, yeah whichis good.

Josh (02:01:46):
Uh, it's good for me yeah, that's true, it's good for you,
it's good for me thanks, hey,buddy, all right well, he's
saying wrap this shit up, letlet's wrap it up.
Yeah, like follow the samespiel.
Like follow, share.
Yeah, please share, if youdon't mind.
If I make a post, please shareit.
It only takes a few seconds.
I would really appreciate it.
You don't even have to tag us,just share it.
Try to get some more views outthere.

(02:02:08):
Try to get some more followersgive you a shout out yeah, if
you guys do also, uh, keepsending me movies that you think
we should see.
If you guys do want to tagalong for a movie, um, if you
guys would be interested, justmessage me and we'll we'll get
it scheduled up.
We'll let you know when we'regoing to be at one, and if you
guys want to come tag along,that's cool too.
Unless you're fucking weird,then we'll probably have to tell

(02:02:29):
you a different time and we'llgo at a different time.
But if you're somebody, ofcourse, if you're somebody we
know, you're more than welcometo come join us.
Um, and also, if you guys wantto be on the show, we do
call-ins.
Uh, we're not gonna do any,probably.
We don't have any equipment,that's uh we can make it work if
we wanted to, but it probablyeasier for you to just call yeah

(02:02:51):
, just to call him.
You can call him, we can discusswhatever you guys want movies.
Tell them there's something,you saw something, you hated
something, we said you don'tlike whatever.
Feel free to message theinstagram, we can set it up.
You know, if we need to adjustour schedule for that, we can
too.
It's not a huge deal, uh.
But yeah, uh, catch up on oldepisodes too, if you haven't
heard, um, even the one wherezach lost his uh tp virginity

(02:03:13):
type situation.

Zach (02:03:13):
I can't remember the exact title Coming of age and coming
of age in a TP Great episode.

Josh (02:03:20):
Yeah, that's, that's really it, man.
Just I appreciate everybodywho's been listening.
It's still a blast.
We got some stuff we alwaystalk about working on and maybe
one day we'll eventually get toit.
Maybe, who knows, It'll be asurprise.
It'll be a surprise for us.

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