Ingles Tailgate Show #45 - Clemson vs NC State 10-28-2023

Coming off a disappointing loss against Miami last Saturday, can the Tigers bounce back and get a win today over the Wolfpack? As always, John and Rich preview today's game, and set the scene with interviews, clips from the players, and more!

Episode Transcript

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Ninety two point five U E.S, E AM and F M Greenville,
Spartanburg Anderson. We're talking Clemson Tigersand getting you ready for a college
football Saturday. And this Ingles TailgateShow is brought to you by Ingles Markets,
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of Greenville Career Flooring Center, theSurgery Center at Pelham, the Key Heating

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in Air and Palm Meadow State ArmoryFreddy. Now Here are your hosts,
John Ellis at Richmond Weaver. Well, no matter the circumstances for Clemson Tigers,
and it wasn't pretty last week,we're here battling through another stretch of
Clemson football. Looking at my cohost, Richmond Weaver always says positive thinking.

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It's their power of positive thinking.We're speaking better results into existence.
Today we are live from Camperdown Plaza. I'm John Ellis, That's Richmond Weaver.
It's the Ingles Tailgate Show, gettingyou primed and ready for another day
of Clemson football in the South.Here going to be with you, rich
How you doing man? Oh?Absolutely fantastic. It is a beautiful day
here in the Upstate and downtown Greenville. Just walked past the Saturday Market down

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in right there on North Main Streeton my way here to camperdown in a
fantastic opportunity just to I don't know, take in everything about college football weekends
and Saturdays, regardless of windsor losses. And I know that obviously from a
Clemson standpoint, you're looking at thisrecord four and three overall two and three

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in the ACC and you're questioning,how did we get to this point?
How in the world are the ClemsonTigers sitting here? And obviously a lot
of negative thoughts might be creeping in, but as you mentioned it at the
top of the show, speak positivethoughts. That's what we had to do,
and we're going to do that heretoday. Not that we can't dissect
things and try to evaluate and lookat it from a critical standpoint. And

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I think that's what you have todo regardless of the situation, win or
loss, but obviously it's something thatyou might do more so off of losses.
And I think we have to examinewhat is going on with Clemson right
now because obviously it does seem differentthan what we've seen over the past decade,
no doubt about it. As wecome to you on the twenty eighth

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of October, three short days awayfrom Halloween. Will it be trick or
treat for the Tigers on the roadagainst NC State kickoff at two pm at
Carter Finley Stadium Today, we're herewith you until eleven am, so come
down and see us here at CamperdownPlaza. Coming up in the show in
about fifteen minutes. As always,an inside look with Will Vandervoord from the
Clemson Insider. He'll join us live. He's up there in Raleigh getting ready

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for the game, covering the gamefor the Clemson Insider. He'll call in
and give us his thoughts on whathappened last week, what's to come moving
forward? As we talk about DaboSweeney's goals he sets every year, one
of those goals has gone by thewayside. Now an ACC championship and you
still have things in front of you, including a win against a team today,
potentially a win against a team thatthis program has no love lost for.

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Let's just face it. NC StateClemson in the Textile Bowl series a
lot of history there. We'll gothrough that later in the show with not
only on this day, but alsoseries history, and we'll talk about some
of the key matchups between Clemson andNC State. We'll wive it around the
ACC, what's going on within theconference, and a lot of storylines in
the top twenty five, including what'sgoing on in Michigan with coach Jim Harball.

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Did you steal a signed by theway before the show died, I
thought you might have. I sawyou over there with the hand motions.
Hand motions, Yeah, big posterboards with caricatures, anything that you can
think of. Yes, we areall about sign stealing. And I've got
my thoughts on that because it's veryinteresting that and I talked about it on
our sister station one O four nineFox Sports Upstate and knowing that when I

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was assistant basketball coaches nineteen ninety three, you were allowed to go out on
the road and scout your upcoming opponent. Yeah, And it was not until
nineteen ninety four that the nc doubleaput in proposal that would eliminate that.
It was all based on the scenariothat they wanted to have more parody in

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college basketball and in college football wherethe bigger schools could have the travel budget
set aside for staff to go onthe road, where the smaller schools apparently
didn't have the budget to be ableto go do that. And I think
it's just ridiculous that that was themindset of the nc DOUBLEA, that,

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oh, we're going to create parodyby eliminating the ability to go scout on
the road. Now, obviously atthat time you didn't have cell phones and
the easy capability of recording, sothat's a different scenario story. But there's
something about being able to go outand scout europe oponent in person, just

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so you can get a vibe,you can pick up certain things. But
as much as the NCAA is tryingto create this parody, oh this is
how we'll do it. We won'tallow you to go in person and scout
opponent. But if you want tokeep spending millions and millions of dollars for
your facilities, oh that's okay,right, that's all right, Yeah,
that's fine. These other schools theydon't have the opportunity to invest the same

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type of money as these bigger schools, and we know that's not necessarily the
case. Well, it's a Clemsonshow, but we're seeing right here in
front of our ingles tailgates show banner. A Georgia fan has a couple of
his lovely young pumpsier taking a picture. We're all inclusive, sir. Thanks
for stopping by, my friend,and not only are the dogs here taking

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pictures, but they're dicked out andtheir bulldog gear. They got it,
they got the jerseys. That's allright. So I have to ask him,
Georgia bulldog fan, can you wintoday against the Gators? That's right,
that's right. He thinks it's alwaystough in Jacksonville, but no Brock

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powers. But again, you gotthose dogs right there ready to roll,
so we'll see what happens. Goodto see you, sir, Thanks for
stopping by, and come by andsee us. Capernin Plaza. We're here
until eleven am doing the English TailgateShow. We invite fans of all ilk
of all the varieties, and dogsas well or on the leash and jerseyed
up and ready to go. Speakingof college basketball, you mentioned this earlier,
I'd be remiss if we didn't startwith announcing that it all starts in

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Nashville with the Ashfield Championship of theHarris Cherokee Center November tenth and twelfth,
featuring the men's basketball teams from Maryland, Davidson, UAB and of course the
number fifth ranks so far Clemson Tigersin the ACC. In the preseason poll.
You got PJ. Hall as anAll ACC Flayer on the first team
right now. Tickets on sale nowat Ashfield Championship dot Com, proudly sponsored

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by Ingles Markets. Before we diveinto football here, rich, I know
you excited about this event. Areyou kidding me? College basketball right around
the corner two or three weeks away? Yes, And we know that it's
less than two weeks from the AshvilleChampionship there in Ashville and Clemson. This
is a Clemson team that I thinka lot of fans are cautiously optimistic,

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and I understand that to obviously comingoff of a tough season where you win
fourteen ACC games, and I saytough season because you did everything that you
needed to do in conference to setyourself up for an at large bid in
the NCAA Tournament. And this isthe first time that a team in the

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ACC that has been able to securefourteen wins did not get selected for the
NCAA Tournament on selection Sunday. AndI know you can look at it from
a different perspective now, the criteriathat they're looking at the net rankings and
how important that is. But itwas obviously the non conference games there for

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Clem that really hurt him. Losingto South Carolina that was a scenario where
it did not help them at all. But then also even losing to Louisville
in conference did not help their netranking. But I do believe that Clemson
fans should be excited though for thisseason because they've got a mix of what
you just mentioned, PJ Hall,first Team All acc selection preseason, and

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also you've got Chase Hunter coming backand just how he's matured not only on
the court but also off the courtand being a leader within this team.
And then you bring in transfer JoeGirard from Syracuse, who I'm telling you
I've seen him play enough at Syracuseand Clemson fans have seen him light it

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up. Also, he will bea major contributor for the Tigers this year,
and I think big things are aheadfor the Clemson Tigers in basketball.
Don't forget the Engles Countdown the tipOff show we'll start next week as we
get you fired up for Clemson basketball. Yet he remember the sixth, Monday,
Clemson opens up against Winthrop. Youcan hear that ninety two point five
WeSC as well. Game times andshowtimes to be announced, so stay tuned

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for that. So we got totalk about it. It's the elephant in
the room. What happened last weekin Coral Gables, a game that Clemson
very much had in hand. Letme give you a quick review of what
happened here Jacoby George. Of course, in the first quarter, a one
play eighty yard drive, well thatpretty much sums it up. Coming off
a fumble from Clemson side as well, that seems to be a theme as

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well. So there's a fourteen pointswing. Miami's up seven to nothing.
Here comes Jake Brinninstell. We've beenasking for it all year. Big drive,
thirty two yard pass from k Clubnickand Ny even the score in the
second quarter at seven to seven.You get into the third quarter, Jonathan
Whitz, who's been up and downthis year, nails the field goal.
Eight plays, fifty eight yard drive, so you think it okay, ten
to seven, and then you getthe ball back. Nice to play sixty

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four yard drive again. Explosive playswere there for Clemson. Nineteen yard pass
from Clubnick seventeen to seven. Butas our good friend will Vandervord, who
would join us here, momentarily mentionedthat I agree with him for the first
time in the Dablosweeney area, itfelt like blowing a double digit lead in
the fourth quarter just happened, andit took a lot of things to come

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together for this to happen. ColbyYoung eleven yard passed from the freshman Emery
Williams, the quarterback who stepped infor Tyler Van Dyck, who played quite
well considering the lack of experience there, and the Adelaide field goal right before
regulation ends. Overtime comes around JonathanWhite's thirty one yard field goal in the
first series twenty seventeen. Miami matchesthat, and then again second overtime they're

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able to not only add the touchdown, but the two point conversion Miami does,
And then you get down to theend where Clemson Tyler Brown catches the
ball inside the two yard line,and you're just thinking to yourself at that
point, oh boy, okay,this is good. But if you had
gotten over the plane, that wouldhave relieved a lot of anks for Clemson,
a team that has struggled down therein the short area red zone,
Richmond converting and you saw a firstdown, second down, just a little

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short, third down, just againyou're inches short with Will Shipley and fourth
down, and it's been much talkedabout. In credit to Kay Clubnick for
stepping up to the podium and talkingabout it after the game. Calls his
own number on what was not aReid option. It was a straight run
call that was well blocked, andClubnik has nowhere to go. Game over,
Clemson blows the lead. Miami outscoresClemson twenty one to three over the

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final half of this game into overtime, and this one stings rich It's you
know, Clemson's always gonna have thatwindshield mentality Deblos when he talked about it,
but this one hurt right here.Oh, it definitely did. And
you look at obviously the focus andit's magnified that last play with Kate Clubnick
and knowing that he did call hisown number and didn't play the play that

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was called, and obviously it shouldhave been a handoff right there from to
Will Shipley. And I know evenfrom her perspective, it's even more magnified
because it did look like Shipley couldpotentially score. But I also look at
it from her perspective that we sawMiami still be able to play some solid
goal line defense there, and yeah, it might have been a Shipley touchdown

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right there, But also remember thedefense they're witnessing enough where once they saw
kid start running to the outside,Yeah, it might make it a little
bit easier for Will Shipley to scoreright there because they know he doesn't have
the ball and so it's not guaranteedthat Will Shipley was going to score,

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but it does look like that wouldhave been the case. But I look
at the scenario even well before that, because again, that play can be
so magnified because it was right atthe end of the game. That's how
the game ends, and that's justdevastating to have an eight yard loss on
the last play at the game whenyou're trying to score, and its fourth
and goal, and maybe it's likefourth and one at the most because you're

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able to get that close. ButI look at it from her perspective,
where Clemson is down seven to nothing, as you'd mentioned, with that crazy
touchdown where eighty yard run, butNate Wiggins does an amazing job hustling and
causing the fumble, but the probabilitiesof Miami just happens to be there and
falls on it in the end zonefor the touchdown. But Clemson goes on

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to score seventeen unanswered points, sothey're up seventeen to seven. And it
was after a Clemson touchdown to makeit seventeen to seven. And then this
is what's crazy, this is whatyou don't typically see. Miami went on
a fifteen play drive Boy to scorea touchdown right after Clemson had just scored
a touchdown. And that was,in my opinion, the backbreaker in that

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series of events that ultimately led toMiami getting the victory because that consumed nine
minutes on the clock, and thatwas the big part right there where it
just seemed that Miami just kept saying, well, Clemson, if you're not
going to be able to stop therun, we're just going to keep doing
it. And they were able todo that. Why bother and the freshman

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quarterback, though he did have atough first half, rightfully so, but
he he did make some plays therein that second half in addition to what
Miami was able to do on theirrun game. The story of the season
in a large portion for Clemson hasbeen fumbles. You know, the interceptions
have been there from time to time, and the defense has played hard.

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But the microcosm of the season againand we mentioned long drives. The first
quarter, Clemson goes thirteen plays,eighty four yards, six and a half
minutes, a good blend of passingand running. You're looking good. You
get down inside the three yard lineand Will Shipley fumbles the football and you
mentioned the play after that. It'san eighty yard touchdown run for Miami,
a huge swinging momentum where you deathby a thousand paper cuts. The kind

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of drive you want on the roadRichmond to wear down this very good Miami
defense, especially their front. Itall goes for nod when you can't secure
the football. And it's part ofthe problem, just in conjunction with the
fumbles, is the lack of runninggame in this game. You look at
yards per attempt and this is accountingfor sacks. Two yards per rush for

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Miami five point six. They werein for two hundred and eleven yards.
Clemson stay dedicated to it, butless than one yard per carry in this
game. Thirty four rushing yards threeturnovers to the one that Miami had.
So when you lose the turnover battle, when you're out rushed by what one
hundred and eighty yards and on thirdand fourth down again Clemson third and fourth

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down combined four fifteen Miami ten oftwenty. It seems like Miami should have
won by more in a lot ofways. But Clemson, you just can't.
You get to buy ten points inthe fourth quarter of this Clemson team
with the standard being the standard,you can't bow those leads. And it
took a village for it to happen. Offense and defense both contributed to that,
no question about it. And Ilike how you phrased that that it

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was an offense and a defense,a combination that led to this where Clemson
couldn't get things going in the rungame. And then for the Clemson defense
surprisingly couldn't come up with some bigstops stopping Miami's run game. And that's
what was surprising. And you talkabout the rushing attack for Clemson and less
than one yard per Carrie, theyalso had fifty eight yards and losses in

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this game, John, I mean, that's half of a football field.
You just have to have that,yes, And Obviously you see that at
the end of the game there withCaid Clubnick with that eight yard loss.
But I also agree with you froma perspective of at least Cad Clubnick not
only right after the game owned upto it and explained it, but then

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even on Monday came back and wasin front of the media, and at
nineteen years old, that's very hardto do. That shows you the maturity
and just that the confidence that hehas in himself even through a mistake.
And that's what you want, Hey, you own up to your mistake,
you have that responsibility, and canyou learn from that? But I'm wondering

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though, also just from a perspectiveof the thought process. Not obviously Caid
has mentioned that yes he saw somethings, but is there something also going
on where is he not having confidencein some of his other teammates by not
saying, Okay, this is theplay that's being called, we should be

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able to score right here. Andwe've seen it a couple of times where
he's decided to call his own playand heard that in the Wake Forest game
had the exact same scenario and hecalled his own number and should have,
but it worked out for him.But here it didn't, and so obviously
it's a different scenario. It allis good if it works out, but

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when it doesn't, and especially inthat type of situation. But I'm just
curious, especially with the the exchangeissues that Cad and Will have had.
And I know I'm speculating and I'mnot trying to create any type of conspiracy
theory here, but I just wonderif there's something there that where they're not

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connected and believing enough in each otherto be able to trust your teammate.
And no, this is the playthat's being called. Let me trust the
process, trusts the standard that Clemsonis and just hand the ball off and
be done with it. And thenanother tangent. So and I'm going long,

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But Phil MafA, where's he at? Where's he at in these type
of scenarios? And I know filmMafA had the fumble in the Duke game,
and it seems that he hasn't beenput in those type of positions.
Yes, and Will Shipley, wesaw him fumble there inside thee and we
know that film MafA is a bruisingtype of running back. And Phil Maffa

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is getting four and a half yardsperk after first contact, so it is
very difficult to bring film offa downand in those type of situations, I
just wonder why film offa is notan option down there, even just as
a decoy also or an additional blockerfor some type of brotherly shove or whatever

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we want to make. It's timeto go to that they don't fumble a
lot on the brotherly shove. We'llsee if there's some change in personnel.
I would assume there's gonna be alittle different attack against since the state of
team struggling in their own right nowoffensively, but we'll match up their defense
versus Clemson's offense later in the show. We've got a lot to get to
coming up next. Our good friendWill Vandervard from the Clemson Insiders on stand

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By. He's gonna join us herein a few minutes to give us the
inside look on the Clemson Tigers.We're out here at Camper Down Plasta until
eleven am. It's The Ingles TailgateShow live on ninety two point five WSC.
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Now Here are your hosts, JohnEllis, I'm Richmond Weaver. It's another

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college football Saturday in the South,coming to you live from Camperdown Plaza,
downtown Greenville on a beautiful day.A little chili in the shade, but
it's gonna warm up, is theweather. App said, Richmond record highs
today, your record highs into themid eighties potentially. So we're glad to
be here, Glad to be withyou guys up until eleven a m.
On the Ingles Tailgate Show. I'mJohn Ellis, That's Richmond Weaver. Of

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this big game between the Clemson Tigersand the NC State wolf Pack. Will
Edward, how you doing? Myfriend? Hey, guys, how y'all
doing? Doing fantastic? One?To remind people, you're also the co
host of the Believe in Clemson FootballPodcast with Levon Kirkland and I had a
chance as always to listen to thatfine show this week, and it gives
us an opportunity to segue back intowhat happened last week. We're gonna get

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den Ze State a lot of playersthat look for here, but man,
you said it best will and wetalked on the air on one of four
nine Fox Sports Upstate this week aswell. I don't think you've seen or
I've seen, or even richest seenin the Dabo Sweeney area in the era
I should say, a double digitlead in the fourth quarter expire and wither
away like it did last week.Take us back not only to that game,

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but to that fourth quarter and whatled up to that. What are
you witnessing there from Coral Gables inperson? Give us your view. Yeah,
it was. It was interesting tosee that they just a defense couldn't
get off the field and finish thejob there. And you know, I
talked to several players, defensive playersafter the game, and they talked about
it. You know, that wason them, but they didn't finish,
you know, because you know theynow granted it wasn't told to them,

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It was a collective effort, becausethey should have had a twenty seven nothing
lead going into that fourth quarter becauselet's you know, Will Shipley fumble's going
into the end zone. Miami scoreson the next play, that's a fourteen
point swing right there, and thenClemson fumbled later on in the game that
you know, should have been atleast a field goal, and then so
you know, you had ten pointsonto that. You know, you do

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the ifs and all that stuff,and I know people want to hear that,
but that is the true nature.I mean, if Will Shipley scores
and holds onto that football that's anentirely different game because Miami did nothing the
first three quarters of that football game, nothing, and it's a you know,
that game is totally different than WillShipley scores there, and so it
wasn't all on the defense. However, they did overcome all of it,

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and they build a towrent, theybuild a seventeen to seven lead, and
then the defense just can't get offthe field. Allow of fifteen played drive
that had a third and thirteen hada third and eight and then also a
fourth down situation and couldn't get offthe field, and none than none of
those occasions so you know, that'son the defense, that's not on the
offense. I know a lot ofpeople wanted to blame the offense, but

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they scored to go up to seventeento seven before that fifteen play drive.
I mean, that fifteen play drivecame right after Clemson touchdown. So don't
blame the offense in that scenario.That scenario is all on the defense.
The fourth quarter was all the defensethat had nothing to do with the offense.
Offense couldn't get the ball back.You know, they did have one
possison where they went three and out, but that's after fifteen play drives,
and so that's all the defense,not on the offense. And that's kind

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of the point I made on thatwhen it was a collective effort in the
loss, because the offense messed upin the first half, but the defense
definitely held its own and gets partialblame because it also could not get off
the field there in the fourth quarterwhen it mattered most. Clemson was four
or fourteen on actually four to fifteen. I shou'd see on third and fourth
down opportunities, Miami ten of twenty, as you mentioned, will and they

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converted to all varieties of that WillVandervoord from The Clemson Insider is our guest.
You did opine here not only onthe title of your podcast this week,
but in your column that there wasan element of being bullied a little
bit, and that's not something thatClemson's defense or offense is used to.
But in the trenches it hasn't beengreat lately, and when it's been good,
it's been in spurts. Talk aboutthat, not only from the defensive

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line perspective, but starting with theoffense. When you can't establish a consistent
running game, when you're under twopoint eight yards per carry for Shipley MafA
combined and as a team with ClubKnicks reversals there in terms of getting sacked
and going backwards, the team asa whole is less than a yard per
carry on thirty four technical attempts.There, that's a problem when the other
team is rushing for two hundred elevenyards. Yeah, they got beat at

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the lot of scrimmage. And it'salways that football is a simple game.
I tell people that if you wantto know who's gonna win a game,
just let's see who's better in thetrenches. And Miami was better in the
trenches. They dominated Clemson. Theydgot that bare front and they just said
they weren't gonna let Clemson run thefootball, and they didn't. And then
on the other side, they justClemson refused to adjust and I thought Clemson

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should have got it to up therefront several times that that you used to
adjust, and Miami ran it rightdown the B gap, if you will,
and just same play over and overand over again, and just really,
as Levin said, they just kindof sucked the life out of you
as a defense when you know it'scoming and you can't stop it. And
he said, there's nothing more depressingor defensive player than to know what play

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they're running and you can't stop itno matter what you do. And that's
what happened last week. It wasa beat down. It was they were
bullied by Miami in that fourth quarter. And Clemson has always been the bulliard
during this run. And so nowwe've seen it a couple of times here
in last year where Notre Dame bulliClemson last year coming out of bye by
the way, and then this year, you know, Miami bully Clemson in

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that fourth quarter, and it wasjust it was surprising to see that Clemson
allowed themselves to get that dominated inthe lines of scrimmage last week, and
so when I look at that game, that's the thing that comes to me
the most is just how they physicallywere dominated on both sides. And to
me, that's why it's concerning withClemson right now, because when you're losing

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the battles of the lines of scrimmage, I don't care who you had a
quarterback, I don't care who youhave it running back, a wide receiver,
I don't care what kind of linebackersyou got. If you can't stop
and you can't run the football,you have no chance of winning a football
game because it's built there. Andlast week, Miami owned Clemson on both
sides of the line of scrimmage.As we're talking with Will Vandervoort from the

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Clemson Insider and Will, I knowyou're up in Raleigh right now. But
one last question that seems just froma perspective of this entire season, and
we've talked about this before, itseemed like the messaging was just a little
bit different from Clemson heading into thisseason, where much more pronounced and publicly

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talking about national championship and being ableto focus on that and where in the
past it seems like the message wasalways about ay one game at a time,
we're focusing just on our next opponent, that this coming Saturday and that's
it, and not focusing on thebroader picture. Do you feel that there's
any connection between that difference in messagingand where the Tigers are at this point

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of the season. Yeah, Imean, it's interesting in richer right.
We thought it was interested in whenthey were doing it, because we're not
used to that kind of message comingout of Clemson. And you know,
maybe it's a different error now Richmondbecause you got kids in IL and a
transfer portal, and maybe Dad wastrying to sell it different. I don't
know, you know, I don'tyou know, but there is there's got

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to be some kind of connection toit. Maybe you were trying to get
the kids to believe there. Maybehe saw this in practice that they weren't
trusting themselves and he's trying to tellinghey, guys, you're a good football
team. You just got to learnto trust yourself and do things within the
system and you're going to be fine. Maybe these are the things they saw
as the coaching staff in preseason camp, and it was a concern, so

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they were trying to maybe lift theplayers up and build the confidence up.
You know, I don't know,it's a good question. I don't think
we'll ever know the really answer there, right, But they haven't lived up
to expectations. We know that.But as you look at this team and
you look at the numbers and yousee what Clemson does moving the football into

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the twenty yard line, moving thefootball basically into the five yard line,
if you will, they do itas well as anybody. They're like in
the as far as overall, youknow, offensive performance, they're in the
top fifteen. Obviously, we knowwhat they're on defense, and they've been
really good for most of the yearon defense. But they from an offensive
standpoint, they just haven't finished insidethe five yard line. And guys,

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just like I said last week,will Shipley scores that touchdown, it's a
different game. It's a totally differentgame at that point because it really sets
the tone. And you know,we talked about what all happened after that,
So if you consider what all happenedafter it, you got to imagine
how different of a game it was. Well, it's been that way for
the season. Look how different theFlorida State game would have been if they

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just would have executed there and notfumbled and you get to scoop and score.
Look how different the the Duke gamewould have been. How they scored
both those times they were at theone yard line. I mean they've had
two games, guys, two gameswhere they've had first and goal or they
had gold to go situations at theone yard line, well in two games

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twice and didn't score either time.As four times they've been inside at the
one yard line with the gold gosituation and did not score. Tell me
the last time you think you rememberanybody doing that? You know? Your
answer is nobody ever. Yes.So it's like it's like crazy stuff and
it's like they almost got the yips, if you will. I talked to

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I talked to offensive lineman center Willputting them at the end of the game,
and I asked him about you,said you guys kind of like,
is it too much in your head? And he says, yes, it
is. He says, says,when we practice during the week, we
don't have these issues. And hesays, you practice so you don't have
these problems. That's the point ofpractice. And he says, but when
we get to the game for somereason, worrying about it, we're thinking

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about it, and he says,and you think in this game, he
says, you're always going to makemistakes when you think of this game.
It's all about muscle memory. Andhe says, right now, we're just
thinking too much. No question,from that perspective, you can't be in
that point where you're paralysis by analysis. And but that's the pressure of these
games and pressure that you put onyourself. And I do believe that has

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some effect for the Tigers right now. So moving forward, though, you've
got to flush this and players talkabout it mental Monday and they're able to
dissect things from the game and thenmove on for their next opponent. And
obviously now on the road back toroad games for the Tigers, they're in
Raleigh against NC State, and sothis looks like a scenario where something's got

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to give. Will just from aperspective, we you just talked about it,
how Clemson has struggled, especially inthe red zone and even inside the
five yard line. But now nc State their red zone defense, it's
twelfth in the ACC. So atsome point. You think the Clemson has
got to be able to score againstNC State if they get in the red
zone. Yeah, you think.But here's the problem. NC State's defense

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pretty good, so it's hard toget into the red zone games they are,
you know, so, I meanthere one of the top defenses in
the ACC. And Peyton Wilson,guys, I've said this all week.
Man, I can't wait to watchthis guy play. I mean, I've
watched him in person several times.He's one of my favorite linebackers to watch.
I love watching an NC State gamebecause I'm always looking for number eleven
and how they use him and howjust what he does. So he's a

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problem. He's gonna be a problemfor Kate FLUDMC today. And you know,
so they're really good on defense,so yeah, they got to get
inside the Fritz. Let's let's getthem there and then we'll see. You
know, you just hope they're notthinking too much. I always tell everybody
just don't get into the five yardline. If they just stay outside the
five, then they'll probably score thatdown, you know. But it's when

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they get inside the five that theissues start to come up. So what
you want if you're a Clemson fenis, you don't want Clemson to fall
down around the three to two orone yard line. You want you wanted
to get on into that amazone somehow, some way. But yeah, it's
going to be a fascinating game whenyou look at the matchups and because both
teams struggle on offense. Both teamsgot really good defenses, but yet those

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defenses at times have mental breakdowns andthere's certain situations they're not good at.
We've already talked about Clemsons and whatthey've hadn't done well lately in NC State,
as you mentioned, is when teamsdo get thro those opportunities in the
redons, they're scoring on them,which is indicative of what that to that
three to three five Cloud defense issupposed to be about. It's supposed to
make you ben but don't break.And so it's interesting that you know they're

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struggling the stop teams and they getin that red zone because that defense is
made for that particular reason. WillVanderbolt from the Clemson Insiders with us with
an inside look. He's live fromCarter Finley State and getting ready for this
big matchup at two pm between Clemsonand NC State. I'm just seeing some
breaking news from will Vandervoard on theClemson Insider. His final score prediction is

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ten to six. A throwback game. Indeed, so again Payton Wilson the
linebacker against Kate Club. Nick notexpecting a lot of scoring today, Huh,
I'm not. I don't expect.You got two defenses that are pretty
good and right, and they havetheir moments where they can be dominant.
And I like the way NC stays. Dabo talked about it earlier this week.

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They'll they'll they'll sit there and they'llsit in that cover too cloud and
then all of a sudden they justgo zero blitz on you. And all
of a sudden, your quarterback's like, what just happened? You know,
they're coming from all angles. They'rebringing the fire blitz and bringing the dog
blitz up the middle. You knowthey got the fire cut in the corner
off the edge. I mean,it's like you don't know what's going on
where it comes from, because allof a sudden they're in the cloud or
in the cloud they're doing that inthis bam they hit you. And it's

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not situations where it's like third andthirteen. They run this cover zero.
They'll run it on first and ten, they'll run it on second and four.
You know, so you never knowwhen it's coming. And so yeah,
I just think these two defenses aregood. The offenses have issues both
sides. Zoo Clemson can't score.They can move the ball all day long,
but they can't score. And thenin C State they just can't even

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move the ball. So it's like, so, you know, it's like
who's gonna score. Whoever scores thefirst touchdown probably wins this game. That's
the way I look at it.Well, we'll follow you for allow of
the action there at Steeler Will onx Twitter and of course the follow up
at the Clemson Insider dot com.It's Will vandervoord an inside look in.
Certainly some good context from last weekand some good perspective going into this game

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against NC State. Be well,safe travels, and we'll see you next
week. My friend, guys,we'll talk to y'all next week. Be
home. Finally, it's gonna benice. That's right back. Get home
against you what youre, dame.We'll see what happens there. Will Vandervoard
from the Clemson Insider. We're alittle late here, we'll take a break,
come back, talk about what's goingon in the ACC and look ahead
to what's going on in this gametoday. N C State Clemson kick off

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Love the Savings, and as welook through what's going on in the
ACC right now. Again, thereare other teams that are focused in on
their goals at the moment. Someaction today. You got Boston College at

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four and three taken on Yukon athome. That's a noonkickoff, as well
as number four Florida State traveling toWake Forest noonkickoff for the seminals at the
Demon Deacons. There. Of course, you mentioned Clemson, NC State.
You can catch that on the CWall right here on ninety two point five
WeSC with the radio call from DonMunson. Pitt is traveling to Notre Dame

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at three thirty pm on NBC.Pitt's playing a little better these days.
I'm not saying upset alert, butat least they're getting their feet under them
right now. Notre Dame great defensivelyso far this season. And then a
good one duke against Louisville coming upin three thirty pm on ESPN eighteen.
Louisville at six and one, andit was so close. Pitt was in
fact the team that knocked them outof the other sweet of rinks right now,

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So a carousel of activity. Virginiawho gets off the schneid and a
big one for Tony Elliott. We'lltalk about that in a minute. Last
week, taking on that same Miamiteam we've been talking about, North Carolina
travels to Georgia Tech. I don'twant to say upset alert again, but
you know, Georgia Tech is alwaysgood for one of these games. And
of course, last night Syracuse fallsto Virginia Tech thirty eight to ten.

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In that game, Syracuse has lostfour in a row at the moment,
and you look at what's going onin terms of what happened last week Richmond.
How about Virginia thirty one to twentyseven over North Carolina and again a
mac Brown type of loss in thisprogram. Hats off to Tony Elliott,
though. What a job he's donekeeping that program galvanized through all the tragedy
they've been through and they get theirsignature wins so far. I love the

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fact that Tony Elliott was able toget that victory. And this is the
first time on the road that Virginiahas been able to be a top ten
team in school history. So forToniella to be able to do that,
obviously in the wake of the tragedylast year with the three teammates or Virginia
Cavaliers football teammates tragically killed. AndI love the aspect of Mike Collins,

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one of the survivors who was shotbut survived, and he scored three touchdowns
in this skettle and propelled Virginia therein that victory on the road against North
Carolina. But to your point,as much as we want to give credit
to Virginia, and rightfully so,they went out there and played extremely well,

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tough, gritty, and Tony Elliottdoing a great job keeping his team
galvanized in together. But Mac Brownand the North Carolina tar Hills at some
point, I think most tar Hillfans were looking at the schedule with baited
brother or when is it going tohappen? When is it going to happen?
When is that fall going to happen? And this was where it is,
and there it is that now youhave a log jam of these teams.

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They're in the ACC standings with oneloss. In terms of who's going
to represent the ACC in Charlotte rightnow, obviously Florida State sitting there undefeated
in the conference, and yes it'sgoing to be on the road against Wake
Forest, but I do believe thatFlorida State will be able to pull away
there in the third and fourth quarter. Just what we saw against Duke,

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and obviously a tough scenario for Dukewith Riley Leonard getting re injured in that
game against Florida State because Duke wasplaying really well. But it was just
there in that fourth quarter for FloridaState. But this is what's interesting when
you look at the ACC standings.We keep talking about Louisville, we keep
talking about North Carolina, we keeptalking about Duke, and obviously talking about

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Florida State. In terms of who'sgoing to make it to Charlotte, Nobody,
and I mean nobody is talking aboutVirginia Tech. Yeah, right if
they're sitting there at three and onein the ACC. And rightfully, so
you're not talking about Virginia Tech justfrom a perspective. They got beat by

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Marshall earlier in the year, soyou're looking at them saying, oh,
wait a second, they're not thatgood. They got blown out by Rutgers.
But in the ACC they're sitting therewith one loss. And now for
them the rest of their schedule,they've got Louisville, they've got Boston College,
they've got n C State, andthey've got Virginia they're winnable games now.
Louisville seems to be playing really well, but it's crazy to think that

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Virginia Tech. They control their owndestiny in terms of can they finish the
season there with one loss and potentiallybe in a tie. And that's why
David Hell does a great job withthe ESPN breaking down that right now,
a certain teams win, we couldhave a five way tie. Yes,
the teams with all said the endof the season in ACC, it would

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be a mathematical nightmare trying to decipherwho would win the tie breakers. There.
I'm here for it. I'm herefor some chaos. We gotta have
some type of chaos here. Clemsontwo and three in the ACC right now,
sitting there alone in eighth place inthe conference. Florida State, as
you mentioned, number one at fiveand zero, the only undefeated team in
the conference, both within the conferenceand overall right now. And that's the

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big question about Florida State. Canthey keep it moving along? You know,
Jordan Travis has had a good season, but he tends to get banged
up a little bit. The defensehas some playmakers to have an excellent running
game in Benson North Carolina. Yousee if they can rebound in this game
and then continue to forge ahead andstay at one loss, that's the key.
Louisville is sitting there tied at threeand one with Virginia Tech. You

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mentioned a surprise team right now,and then look out for Duke with Ryda
Leonard if he could stay healthy's sittingthere at two and one. They're five
and two overall, but two andone within the conference. And then you
got teams again, Miami, thatwas their first conference win of the season.
Last year, they were zero andtwo coming in because they haven't played
a whole lot of conference games.But I think from that point, you
look at those teams right now thathave two wins, they still have a

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viable shot in this whole thing.In Florida State Richmond, they just continue
to roll on. I wonder ifthere's a game on that schedule lit'll trip
them up. Well, you lookat they have to go on the road
to Pittsburgh next weekend, and dependingon how these Florida teams travel up North
Pittsburgh, and we know Pittsburgh isa difficult place to play, especially when

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you start getting into the month ofNovember. But then you do have Miami
coming in to Tallahassee on NOVERMB ofthe eleventh, So that is definitely a
game that I think you can circleon the calendar, especially if Miami is
able to capitalize off of the momentumbuilding type of victor that they had last
weekend against Clemson and can they carrythat over And so we'll see how that

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game plays out. But right now, obviously Florida State is looking at an
opportunity not only for an ACC championship, but can they be one of those
playoff contending type of teams and tryto be in the top four. And
we'll see how things play out onTuesday, Halloween, Hallo. Is it
going to be a trick or treatingfor the first college football Playoff rankings when

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they are released on Tuesday night,No doubt about it. You look at
offensively in this conference, within conferenceplay, Florida State's number one with forty
one point six points per game,Miami number two with thirty six point three
points per game this season so far. So again you look at teams that
are prolific, that can score andscore in a hurry. Those are the
teams to look out for Clemson rightnow if you're wondering for the season,

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thirty point four points per game,But again it comes in spurts here and
there will have Edward's calling for aten to six final in this game.
Now, I don't know if Iagree with that. I think you see
a little more scoring, but againit's situational football that has put Clemson behind
the eight ball. You look atthe amount of scoring they have sacrifice between
early kicking woes and early fumbles andthen current fumbles. You're looking at like

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fourteen points wings in that game lastweek. So it's frustrating when you know
that Miami, you get deceived alittle bit by what happened to get Georgia
Tech that game in which they basicallycould have taken a knee and into the
game, and they become the laughingstock of the country. You forget Miami
is extremely talented and they were atop twenty five team for most of the
season, a top twenty team forthat matter. Life changes fast in football

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when you don't protect the football.Is there something also just the cyclical effect,
not only in sports but also inlife, and it's Clemson just in
that scenario where for a period oftime they were the team being able to
take advantage of turnovers, and nowit has obviously flipped where they are at

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the disadvantage because they are turning theball over and seems to be like record
numbers in terms of how it's playingout. And also, as we know,
not all turnovers are the same,and teams have been able to capitalize
on Clemson's turnovers, and then justhow they are in terms of real shipley.
You're fumble at the six inch linebasically, and Miami is able to

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recover it. But then also onthe flip side, the probability that Miami
fumbles the way they did right beforethe goal line, but you have a
hustle play for Miami wide receiver followingup the play and he lands on the
ball in the end zone. Imean, it's just a double edged sword
right now for Clemson that it's workingon both sides against them. The probabilities

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and how these things fall just seemsto be something a little bit different than
we've seen over the past at leastfive years for Clemson. And you can't
run from it, you can't hidefrom it. The facts of the facts.
Clemson right now has been in thered zone thirty eight times this season.
They are last in the ACC witha sixty eight point four percent conversion
percentage. They have fumbled the ballthree times in the red zone, that's

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the most in the ACC. Nointerceptions. A couple close ones there from
Kate Klebnick, but again that's thewhole idea. You get inside the red
zone. That's thirty eight attempts,which, by the way, by my
count, is the most in theACC. They've been in the red zone
the most, and they have theleast prolific in terms of scoring and finishing.

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They've got to finish, and it'sjust partially the fumbles. Yeah,
And I think we saw some ofthis last year also, especially how the
season ended in that game against SouthCarolina, in the game against Tennessee where
Clemson they were able to move theball within the twenty yard line yep.
But then once they got to thered zone, things just completely changed.
And I get it, and youknow, John, it does change when

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you get in the red zone.Obviously, now you almost have an extra
defender back there because obviously you havethe end zone and out of bounds at
the back of the end zone,so defenses are able to change a little
bit of their scheme based on whereyou are in that red zone. But
Clemson has definitely struggled in that aspect, and that's something that we haven't seen

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from Clemson offense. Clemson last inred zone scoring percentagency State twelve in red
zone scoring defense. Something has togive that That's what I was talking with
will Vandervoord is that something is definitelygoing to have to give. But when
you look at NC State defense,they just don't allow a whole lot of
people to get their third down conversion. They're first in the ACC, third
in the nation. And sacks they'refirst in the ACC and eleventh in the

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nation at over three sacks per game. Much more to come here on the
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here, so glad to be withyou as always on a beautiful Saturday morning,
getting you ready primed for another Clemsonopportunity to get in the win column
and an opportunity for coach Dabo Sweeneyto make a little history once again to

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pass Frank Howard for sole possession ofClemson's all time head coaching wins record.
Today, we'll see if that allcomes together. I'm joined by my co
host Richmond Weaver. And rich we'vetalked about a number of items leading up
to this game. We had WillVandervoord on from the Clemson Insider with an
inside look and look Will made noapology throughout the week. In his reporting,
he was very direct with what happenedlast week. You cannot get bullied

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in the trenches. You can't getpushed around on the offensive line. Your
defense has got to be able tostep up, not allow eighty yard runs.
And then complimentary football. I thinkthat's the big theme here. When
your offense goes down in scores ona big drive, your defense has got
to bow up and make plays onthe next drive. It's all got to
come together. In the NC Stateteam today that might lack a little bit
of punch offensively, but Peyton Wilsona company, they've got some players on

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defense that can make life hard onyou. Oh, they definitely do.
And just because you look at itfrom a critical eye doesn't mean you're negative.
No, this is just part ofhow you have to examine things.
As our narratives are be informed.But do you better believe the coaching staff
and the players they're doing the samething. They're looking at it from a
critical eye in terms of how canthey get better. And you mentioned Peyton

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Wilson, and this will be interesting. I mean, he's one of the
best linebackers in the country right now. They're on but Dick Butkus Watch list
and also has been named the ACCLinebacker of the Week three times this season
already. And I contend that PeytonWilson, he could be defensive player of

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the Year in the ACC, buton a team that's not contending for an
ACC championship and so you don't seethat too often from that side of things.
But I do believe that Clemson theywill be able to get some things
going here against n C State.So that ten to six score that will
vandervoord that was talking about that doesseem very low. That's a real low

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score. That's a real low scorefrom that perspective. But yes, Peyton
Wilson and that NC State defense,it is a really good defense, but
they do give up plays there inthe red zone. As we've talked about,
they do. They're not going inthe red zone twelfth and the ACC
defensively, Clemson right now last inthe conference in red zone scoring percentage,

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and I think we know why atthis point. Bit of issues with putting
the ball on the ground, alittle bit of issues with obviously threats weapons
in the passing game to be ableto close those drives out. Lolough Jake
brentnan' stuel last week, uh didsome great things in the passing game.
We'll talk about him at the tidingposition. But as we do every single
week, in this second hour tokick it off, we're gonna fire up

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the Dolore and we're gonna go backin time. It's on this day in
Clemson football with my man Richmond Weaver, sire up the Dolore. I have
time to take a trip down memorylane. Well we're going. We don't
need boa. It's o TD onthis day and Clemson football history. Here's
Richmond Weaver. Now you might bethinking it is May twenty eighth, based

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on the weather that we're having here, it's like it is. It's actually
October the twenty eighth, and soyes, we are walking back in history
for Clemson football, going all theway back to nineteen oh three, yes,
one hundred and twenty years ago.This is crazy. The Tigers defeated
NC State of all Things, twentyfour to zero in a game that was

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played in Columbia, South Carolina atthe State Fairgrounds. And this is just
the craziness that we talk about crowdsand we talk about how things have changed
over the years, but the gamewas delayed because the crowds were so eager,
the sideline spectators, they were outon the field and they had to

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be moved off the field. Thenwe talked about crowds being close these days
in certain stadiums, that's a lotclose. And also this was twenty minute
halves that were going to be played, but they had to be shortened because
the field had to be given upto the racing association that started at twelve
forty five. Yeah, I loveit that day. So yes, football

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was not as big as it isobviously now when you're having to shorten your
game by four minutes each half.But Clemson does get that victory twenty four
zero on this date nineteen oh three. How about this in nineteen forty,
with a five and oh start inFrank Howard's first season as head coach,
Clemson would go up into the rankingsof the AP Pole, which only had

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been in existence for four years,and number ten in the nation, And
it was Clemson's first top ten rankingin the AP Pole, And two writers
actually had Clemson number one in thatpart of the season back in nineteen forty
on this date, and then innineteen fifty Clemson defeated Wake Forest in Winston

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Salem in a battle of top twentyteams thirteen to twelve. There you go,
far Burner there, and this iscrazy how it ended. Clemson lineman
Bob Patten would block the extra pointin the final minute to preserve the victory
for the Tigers. And it isthe only time in Clemson history that a

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Tiger has blocked a kick on thelast play of the game to give Clemson
eight victory. Yes, you don'tsee a blocked extra point on the last
No, you do that. Andin nineteen sixty seven, obviously we like
to talk about the victories on thisstate, but on this date in nineteen
sixty seven, Clemson did end uplosing in a tight game thirteen to ten

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as Alabama and Bear Bryant cain toClemson to face Frank Coward's Tigers before a
sellout crowd there in Memorial Stadium.But again the Crimson Tide get the victory
thirteen to ten, and overall onthis date Clemson is nine to nine to
one, including a two to ohmark against NC State. That does include

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wins in nineteen oh three, aswe talked about, and nineteen seventy eight.
So October twenty eight has been goodfor the Clemson Tigers in history.
Yeah, good date. And thisis the time of year Rich and Weaver,
of course, with all this alwaysa good segment. Is the time
of year where you separate the havesfrom the have nots in college football,

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and every week has its own personality. Coaches will tell you that every season
has its own personality. You getthis moniker you know from fans and from
analysts like myself that oh, youcan carry over the strong finish from one
season into the next season, andit's just rarely the case because each team,
especially in the NFL, but evennow in the college landscape with nil

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with the transfer portal, it isa little bit like free agency, and
you have new faces, new teams, new challengers. When you look at
some of the moments against nc State, you're talking about last year for the
first time in series history, Clemsonand NC State met with both teams in
the AP Top ten. That wasan electric environment Death Valley and no question
about it. I mean, thatwas a lot of anticipation coming into that

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game, and dj ewing La hada really good game, more so on
the ground than passing, and thatwas the big ass of why Clemson was
able to get that thirty to twentyvictory at last season, no doubt about
it. College game Day was there, of course, and we've talked about
some of the things that we lookback at this series. Twenty nineteen,
the Clemson Orange bridges opportunity. Clemsonwarmed up in all white for a primetime

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game in Inca State, but uponlearning the wake Forest had lost to Virginia
Tech and a Clemson win would clinchan acc Atlantic Division title. Damn.
But when he gathered the team atthe end of the warm hollered, let's
get them Arch pants on. Let'sgo. Players who didn't know the Orange
fans were on site changed and stormedout to a forty two nothing halftime lead
and a fifty five to ten divisionclinching vid degree. There's something about those

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pants, Rich, There's something aboutthose pants, And there's something about uniforms.
Because this one's near and dear tomy heart. Nineteen ninety one,
Clemson wore purple jerseys for the firsttime since the nineteen forties, as they
would upset n C State twenty nineto nineteen, and NC State was undefeated
and ranked tenth in the nation enteringthat game. And I remember that there

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was all the speculation going on oncampus. And this was before social media,
this was before you could really stayconnected in terms of communication. But
there was these rumors going around thatsomething was happening. Were they going to
do wear something different? But thenit was oh, it's going to be
purple helmets, and people were goingcrazy what it might be. And it

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was the same type of scenario whereClemson comes out there and pregame, just
in their regular uniforms that you wouldnormally see, and then they did the
same thing. They switched and whenthey got off the bus, they were
all wearing the purple jerseys and thestadium went crazy seeing something different, and
again first time that they had wornpurple jerseys since the nineteen forties. And

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here's a little fyi, a littlebit of history here. Do you know
why Clemson moved away from purple?And there was a period of time where
it was more of that navy bluetype of color, even though obviously purple
is an official color of the ClemsonTigers, but it was in the nineteen
forties. The reason why they movedaway from purple was because of World War

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Two and saving money, purple dyewas far too expensive. I'll continue to
use. So there you go.It's a little bit of info. Yeah,
man, I never know what you'regoing to learn here on the Inglesdale
Gate Show, Go TD. Howabout it's most wins versus opposing head coaches
for Dabo Sweeney so far ranked numberone on the lists, of course is

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Dave Claus and Sweeney is ten andzero against the Wake Forest head coach.
A second all time would be DaveDorion for INCI State eight and one record
that coach when he has had againstthe NC State coach. Other coaches in
the top five, Paul Johnson,the former Georgia Tech coach Debo had a
seven and five record, Although therewere some battles between Georgia Tech and Clemson
over the years, Paul Johnson's frustratingoption offense. Yeah, I'll tell you

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Clemson fans did not want to playGeorgia Tech and Paul j No did not.
You talk about Jimbo Fisher's fifth onthe list six and four, So
again they've had Dave Dorian's number.But don't count out this team today.
You look at NC State, samerecord some of the same components. Defensively,
their run defense PFF grades them outin the top twelve in the country

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right now, and that's due inlarge part to the play of Peyton Wilson,
a linebacker on a defense that playsa lot of cloud coverage. They
play some Cover two, but theyknow how to man up against the run.
And last week, look, Ithink with what happened against Miami,
they had some long runs, butthey also had a lot of four or
five six yard runs. They staycommitted to it. I'd like to see
maybe Clemson in this game if they'regonna get in that situation where they got

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to stop the run and are good. Friend Lavon Kirkland brought this up on
their podcast Believe in Clemson Football today. They just kind of were a little
bit stagnant with their fronts. Maybego to more of a bear front,
you know, five on the linethere if you know the run is coming.
Because the as we break down NCState later in the game, we'll
talk more about the quarterback play.Right now, they've gone back and forth
between Armstream and of course him JMorris, But you've got to be able

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to stop the run early and oftenOtherwise you're gonna have a ball game all
the way through the fourth quarter.Oh, you definitely are. And time
of possession was a killer for Clemsonthis past week and against Miami, and
it was part of that run opportunityfor Miami just to continued the ground and
pound type of aspect and again afifteen play drive, nine minutes were taken

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off the clock, and that wasthe backbreaker in my opinion in terms of
that game because Miami was just ableto exploit what Clemson couldn't stop. And
that's what's surprising. And so areyou able to do that here against NC
State? And just thinking from anNC State perspective. Delbert Mims, they're
running back. He's got six rushingtouchdowns and that's two more than anyone last

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year for the entire season. Yes, for NC State, and he is
a big guy and one of thoseguys that they get in the red zone.
He's hard to stop and that's whatthey've had some success. So it
will be in interesting to see froma perspective of how each defense will be
able to handle each perspective. Rushingattack, great stuff on this day with

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rich and Weaver taking you back andlook at what happened on this particular day,
the twenty eighth of October, inthe history of Clemson football, had
no idea about the purple and bluejerseys. That's a fun little tidbit right
there. We got much more comingyour way here. As we get down
to the nuts and bolts of thisgame, we'll break down some of the
key matchups between Clemson and nc State. We'll talk about what's going on not

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only within the ACC touchdown it earlier, but the Top twenty five as it's
just around the corner, Richmond.The College Football Playoff rankings will put the
ap Top twenty five to the sideeventually and we'll be able to focus on
what's important. Thank you College rankings. That's right, and an interesting set
of games today, some games thatmaybe have upset specials written on them within

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the Top twenty five. We'll checkin on the game Cox as well and
see what they're up to. Asthe Ingles Tailgates Show rolls on right here
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Will it be trick or treat forClemson today at NC State. We
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say, college hoops is right aroundthe corner, and we're in full swing
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(01:04:38):
about Major League Baseball. Got theWorld Series walkoff last night, about that
actly dollars Garcias Dallas Garcias with thatwalk off home run there in the bottom
of the eleventh. So yeah,this is an exciting time of the year.
And obviously you just mentioned it.How in the world are we here
at the end of October taking intothe month of no November with after you

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get through this weekend, only fourgames left in college football for these teams.
It's crazy that a blink of aneye that we're back in this scenario
will be talking about the what ifs, how this season could have played out.
But we do have still the lastfour games of the season after this
game, so there's still a lotof football to be played. And I
know Clemson fans are looking at itfrom a perspective sitting there at three losses,

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but there is that opportunity win out, win a bowl game, and
that's another ten win season for theClemson Tigers. So it is still within
the reach of the Tiger. No, but swhen he talks about the main
goals, and we won't go througheach of them, but there are primary
goals within this program every season whenthey kick it off the first tip off
there of the season, and youknow, your goals alter as you go

(01:05:48):
through this thing. You obviously haveto look at things at a more micro
level. Win today's game, geta road win, stay very competitive against
an NC State team, and thenyou come home three year past four games
or at home. That's a goodthing. We'll see what's going on with
Notre Dame. In terms of kickofftime. You give Georgia Tech right there,
a very competitive team, and ofcourse North Carolina a chance to defeat

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what we assume will be a rankedteam by that point, and then to
avenge the loss to South Carolina atthe end of the season. Those are
micro goals within the macro which,as you said, a goal would be
to get to double digit wins,which will require them to win out,
run the table, get to abowl game and see what happens there.
It's interesting what they've gone through thisseason, as is the top twenty five.
I mean, we look at wherewe are right now, and this
will suddenly become less relevant as thecollege football playoff rankings do come out in

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the near future. Here look atwhat's going on in terms of what happened
last week. Let's start with Michiganand all that. It entails forty nine
to nothering win against Michigan State.But news breaking today, just to follow
up on what's been going on,a former Division three coach says a UM
staffer hired him to record future Bigten foes. That from Dan Murphy of

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ESPN. We won't go too deepinto the story, but we know that
the Connor Stallion's, this guy that'son the Michigan staff who's now suspended,
has been at the centerpiece of thisand it just makes you wonder, how
viable can you consider some of thesewins. We don't know yet. We
won't want to be accusatory, butthere's so much smoke around this program right
now. It's almost as if there'sthree things that are gonna happen they'll get

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cleared enough to move on, orthey'll be given sanctions or the third one.
I think Jim Harball might be shoppingaround the NFL at some point because
it seems just so chaotic right downMichigan. They might be the best team
in football at the moment in thecollege game, but just a cloud hanging
over that program, and a lotof it seems to be self imposed.
It's definitely a big cloud over Michiganright now and there will continue to be

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as we're having more and more informationthat seems to be coming out each and
every day about this. And Iknow there's been a speculation and narrative,
oh well, everybody's doing it,Well, not everybody's doing it in terms
of the signs stealing based on whatMichigan is allegedly doing in terms of going
and recording. And again we know, we do know that it is not

(01:08:06):
allowed by the NCAA to go toan opponent's site and be there in person.
Correct, So but that didn't thatused to be allowed until nineteen ninety
four. Yep. And so thereis that aspect of Okay, what made
it all of a sudden so badbecause we know in other sports you're able

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to do it. NFL, youcan do it. There's all these things,
but you can't record. No,you can't. That's that's the no.
No, that's that's what seems tobe the difference here in terms of
the magnitude of what it is,because I can attest that there's no question
that there's other teams that they're doingsome type of advanced scouting. Now not

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to say again that other teams aredoing it to this level and this magnitude,
and now we're you know, havingmore of this information coming out.
But I also just look at itfrom a perspective of what is the NCAA
going to do? We know theyare slow as molasses, so this might
be something that Michigan has to dealwith in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty

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five as far as how the ncDOUBLEA operates, But we do know the
Big Ten they do have the abilitythey can do some things within season if
this evidence really comes out and they'vegot full proof evidence that this was occurring,
and how that will play out.And then also just look at it
from a perspective of what will theCollege Football Playoff Committee do? How will

(01:09:43):
they view this? Because remember goodpoint the College Football Playoff, there's no
sanction, I mean, there's nogoverning rule by the NC DOUBLEA. This
is something completely separate. The NCDOUBLEA in college football has no jurisdiction over
crowning a national champion. It's nowthrough the College Football Playoff, and so

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how will they view Michigan moving forward? As it does seem more and more
information is coming out gonna be interesting. Michigan's still playing at a high level
right now, but you have towonder the scrutiny lit'll come from that.
We did see last week Ohio Statetwenty to twelve win over Penn State wasn't
pretty, but it shouldn't have beenagainst a Penn State team that is tough.

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They put up ten points in thefourth quarter to overcome what was a
tough fought game. In this particularmatchup Marvin Harrison junior. The difference is
then number three Ohio State beats thennumber seven Penn State in a twenty twelve
classic Big ten defensive struggle. Harrisonone hundred and sixty two yards receiving and
a touchdown in this game in OhioState looking better by the week. Here

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as they're seven to zero, youhad some other games to hear you talked
about Florida State last week. Theyget the big win over Duke Washington.
Look, it wasn't easy for MichaelPennock junior, a team that has been
putting up forty plus points every week. They escape in Arizona State fifteen to
seven. So it puts their Iguess quality of win quotient into I guess

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full focus here, good defensive win, but against a one in sixteen,
I don't know. Well, it'salso just from a perspective you look at
Washington. They actually needed a picksix there to ultimately win that game.
But how many times have we seenthis a letdown factor that happens, especially
in college football based on when youput so much effort into what Washington did

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in that game against Oregon the weekprior and everything that went into it to
be able to win that game,and then have to go on the road,
You're gonna have those type of lovedowngames and maybe not playing up to
your caliber because you were so focusedon everything in that Oregon game. And
you do see it in the NFLobviously not as much, but in college

(01:11:57):
younger players not as experienced and almostfalling into that trap, believe in your
own hype, everything that goes intoit, and then you're looking at the
schedule. Oh, we've got thisgame now. Of course she'll be fine.
And I think that was part ofthe scenario. And we know that
there is an aspect of surviving advance. Some of these games you're just not
going to be playing up to yourpar and if you're able to overcome those

(01:12:20):
slow games like that, that doeshelp you in the long run. So
I think Washington will be fine.I just think that was one of those
games from a letdown perspective, Ithink it could be a good thing.
You can spin that into a positive. It was kind of survival week in
the top twenty five. You lookat Oklahoma, Brin Vinnable's team with Dylan
Gabriel playing some great football right now. They survive UCF last week thirty one

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to twenty nine. It took fourteenpoints in the fourth quarter for that to
happen. Texas survived Houston. Thatwas a close game for a while,
thirty one to twenty four. Houstonput up a ton of yards passing in
this game. Oregon, it wasa close game for a while against Washington,
State. They pulled away thirty eightto twenty four. Ward through for
four hundred and thirty eight yards forWashington State. He's a great football player.

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But Bo Nixon company. They moveon at six and one, And
we talked about Virginia. North Carolinawas one of those few teams that could
not survive. Twenty seven points theyput up, but not enough for thirty
one for Virginia, they're thirty onetwenty seven. Drake May another good game,
but again turnover prone. At timeshe'll turn the ball over. He
did in this game through an interception. Alabama thirty four to twenty over Tennessee

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last week Jalen Milroe and they hada huge second second half rally. I
should say to top number seventeen Tennesseeat the time. Ole Miss continues to
survive and roll on with their highpowered offense with Jackson Dart twenty eight twenty
one Utah. Hey, congrats toUtah for getting the big win over USC.
A suddenly slumping USC team with CalebWilliams. A lot of hype about

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him being the number one overall pick, but more importantly, what's going on
within this season. They're losing tractionto be able to compete right now for
a championship. Well, I thinkit's all about they can't play defense.
Yeah, by defense, just waituntil next year when they're in the Big
Ten where it's a much more physicalconference, they're really going to have a
tough time because I think that's oneof the issues right now with Southern Cal

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is that they're just not a physicalteam. Yes they can score, but
they just can't from a perspective ofwithin the trenches win some of those battles.
And we've definitely seen that. ButI'm interested today. Obviously we have
some big games in the top twentyfive. When you're talking Georgia and Florida,
how that's going to play out downin Jacksonville. But Oregon in Utah,

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that's going to be an interesting gameas we have the Oregon Ducks traveling
to Utah, and obviously Utah isa very physical team, very tough to
play, and how will Oregon beable to handle the physical side of Utah.
That's a big one. But obviouslythey're in the ACC. What about

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Duke in Louisville. That's an interestinghugetub huge game, and we still don't
know about Ryley Leonard I would besurprised if Riley Leonard comes out there and
plays because he reinjured that same ankle, and anybody who's had an injured ankle
and you re injure it, that'svery difficult to come back in and try
to play on that. Been there, done that on a much lower level,

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but it is painful. It's hardto play at dead level with that
ankle recurring as an injury. LSUlast week sixty two, nothing over Army,
No big surprise there. Brian Kelly'steam is six and two. The
game Cocks continue to slide a littlebit there, two and five right now,
one and four in the SEC.They had the tough loss to Florida
two weeks ago. Last week Missouri, very good. Missouri team gets the
best of them in Missouri thirty fourto twelve. Missouri is a team that

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we talked about. Virginia Tech.People aren't talking about in the ACC.
Same with Missourie. I know they'restarting to climb and starting to have people
focus on them, but coming intothe season, I think that was a
game that some South Carolina fans,including myself, not as a South Carolina
fan, but as a person Markon Audio Tretchall exactly. I get that.

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I felt that that could be agame that South Carolina could win,
even though it was on the road. But Missouri that's a physical team also,
and Brady Cook is playing very efficientthere at quarterback for Eli Drinkowitz,
and coach frink Witz is doing afantastic job there he is. Air Force
is undefeated. Seventeen to six winover Navy. They moved to seven and

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o two Lane goes to six andone with a big win. They were
twenty third last week. They moveup and a typical Iowa score twelve to
ten loss against Minnesota. UCLA twentyfifth rolls on against stan from forty two
to seven. When we come back, as Richmond alluded to, will start
to look at some of today's toptwenty five matchups, give you a little
depth in terms of what to expectbetween NC State and Clemson, and get

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some final thoughts at the end ofthe show, a prediction or two maybe
in terms of what we expect.Will Vanderwartz already on record ten to six
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tailgating headquarters as well. Just acouple of injury notes in case you haven't
heard earlier in the week Deblos whenhe had talked about a pair of starters
will be out in this game.Wide receiver Antonio Williams, safety RJ.
Mickens for various reasons, will beout in this game and rich when you
look at these are both key injuries. So Williams has provided a spark in

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the passing game the past couple ofyears and Mickens has been one of the
defensive leaders and then much improved secondary. Yeah, and you also have to
look at Xavier Thomas should be backthis week. Missed last week against Miami
for appear to be violation of teamrules. But Antonio Williams, that's just
such a tough loss when you seewhat he can do out on the field

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just for a brief moment there againstMiami and then has to leave that game
with now apparent toe injury. Sothat's going to be a tough one from
that perspective. And now can aTyler Brown continue to step up? Can
a bo Collins be able to makesome plays? And then what about add
Adam Randall and Troy Stolatto. Canthey live up to some of the expectations

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that they have had. But Ithink from Clemson's secondary, I think this
is a secondary that's played really well. And obviously, just from a perspective,
when you've got a Nate Wiggins,you know, is he back one
hundred percent healthy? Obviously he wasable to showcase it looked like he was
one hundred percent in that Miami SheridanJones and those type of individuals there Andrew

(01:20:00):
Maccooba. You know, I thinkthe Clemson secondary has the depth that even
with RJ. Mickens not out there, you still have enough of your horses
that should be able to help stymyThis inc State passing attack, which with
MJ. Morris still questionable, isvery inconsistent. And now in C State

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does have a really good wide receiverwith Casey conception On. He's coming out
on the scene in terms of atrue freshman come out there and playing really
well for the NC State. ButI think Clemson secondary is in a advantage
here against the passing game for incState, no doubt. Coming up in
the next segment, we'll talk aboutsome of the matchups there to expect in

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this game against inn C State ifyou're Clemson looking at the top twenty five
action today, we talked about FloridaState Noon Eastern kicking off against Wake Forest
to see if the Demon Deacons canstifle a little bit. What's going on
with Florida State. It's a twentyone point spread right now, So again
Trey Benson, Jordan Travis Dynamic,Duodo key On Coleman. You've got the
triplets basically for Florida State and They'rehard to stop. Fourth in the country

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right now, and they could climbwith a big win over Florida State or
against the wake Forest. I shouldsay today lurking is a number six Oklahoma
with Brent Vinibles our friend here formany years at Clemson, taking on a
good Kansas team. It's only aneight and a half point spread right now.
We'll see if Oklahoma can get toeight to zero. With Dylan Gabriel
having a remarkable season nineteen touchdowns,three interceptions, he's already taken Kansas.

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I started seeing Texas, I shouldsay, all the way to the final,
all zero's there on the clock andgetting the big win. And that's
a sort of a game I lookat and say, Oklahoma's very good,
but look out for Kansas. That'sa tough one to play. Oh it
is. And Kansas is definitely oneof those teams that we talk about.
I guess from a perspective, theymight not be contending for a conference championship,

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or at least to be structured tobe able to do that. But
how many of those teams out therethat can be those teams that are spoilers
that can cause chaos? And Kansasis definitely one of those teams. We've
seen it in the past, andI promise you there's a lot of those
teams in each conference that can bespoilers. They can be spoilers. Number
ten Penn State, it's looking toget back on track against Indiana at home.

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That's in Happy Valid. They shouldwin that game. It's a noon
kickoff on CBS. Here we gothree thirty pm CBS number one Georgia in
Jacksonville for the annual party whatever wecan call it now. I don't know
what we're allowed to call it,but I know it's an annual tradition jim
Ntancy unlike any other the largest tailgateparty, the large against we have our
say tailgate party, okidok. Georgianumber one in the country without brock Bowers

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though, that's a big deal,and Florida's got a lot of confidence right
now, this is upset special tome. I'm thinking, well, it
definitely potentially, And I know there'sa lot of people talking right now about
Georgia. Howeill Georgia be able torebound and who's going to step up,
what tight end's going to step upfor brock Bauers missing, And I think

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it's from a perspective, it's notgoing to be just a tight end that's
stepping up for Georgia. George isgoing to need more people stepping up just
across the board, not only onthe offensive side, build on the defensive
side. So it's not just aboutanother tight end that's going to replace brock
Bauers, because they're not going tobe able to do that now it's that
good of a player. But Georgiadoes have the horses in terms of can

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they collectively step up and fill thevoid of brock Bowers. Carson Becks so
far this season just over twenty onehundred yards passing twelve touchdowns four in exceptions.
Many of those yards and touchdowns goingto the aforementioned brock Bowers. We'll
see if he can elevate his team. And the defense is gonna have to
be big against a Florida team thatwe saw against South Carolina, Graham Mertzen
Company. They can throw the football, puresol those wide receivers, They've got

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weapons on that front. Number sevenTexas hosting BYU and a sneaky good team
in BYU that can put up somenumbers and maintain their own This is a
big one for Texas well. QuinnEwers is not playing not Blater back for
Texas, so yeah, that coulddefinitely be a factor into this game.
And also Steve Sarkisian the head coachthere for Texas. There's there's still some

(01:24:00):
pressure there for sark in terms ofwe keep talking about is Texas back?
Are they for real? And thisis just another scenario where they got to
come out there and be able tocircle the wagons. Have some other guys
step up and feel the void ofquinn ew weres not there as their starting
quarterback, Number fourteen Notre Dame,who has had their ups and downs this

(01:24:21):
year, some really big wins,some losses are disappointing. Sam Hartman's not
been disappointing. Eighteen touchdowns, threeinterceptions. They host Pitt coming up in
three thirty on NBC. You've gotDuke, also with three thirty on ESPN,
number twenty Duke taking on number eighteenLouisville. A big game within the
ACC for a number of reasons.Duke two and one in the conference,

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Louisville three and one. They're lookingto get back on track after their loss
a couple of weeks ago in Duke. Of course, the tough loss last
week against Florida State number twenty twoto two. Lane takes on Rice at
four pm. You've got Southern Calranked at twenty four right now, barely
hanging on right now, Caleb Williams. Despite the twenty three touchdown and four
interceptions. They go to Cal asonly a ten point favorite in this game.

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They have all the weapons at theirdisposal, but again the defense has
been spotty for Southern Cal, asit's been the case the past few years.
I wouldn't say upset alert quite yet, but I'd say Southern Cal needs
to get their confidence rolling again witha big win over Cal number five Washington.
We mentioned their narrow win last weekagainst Arizona State. They travel to
another team that's had a big winthis year against Coach Prime but otherwise has

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struggled Stanford. That game is atseven pm on FS one. We'll see
if Michael Pennock Junior, with histwenty touchdowns and five interceptions, can get
back on the winning track. They'rea twenty seven and a half point favorite.
I would expect to bounce back gamehere, but as you mentioned,
there's no guarantees. Number nineteen AirForce undefeated at Colorado State tonight, and
you get Tennessee and Kentucky. Twentyone Tennessee never an easy game in Lexington.

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We'll see if Tennessee can get thewin at Kentucky. Number three Ohio
State plays a late game tonight seventhirty NBC at Wisconsin again, another tough
place to play their Camp Randalls Stadium. Never easy. Ole miss number twelve
in the country hosting Vanderbilt seven thirtypm on the SEC Network and then Ucla
hosting Coach Prime and the Colorado Buffsand looks. So far the story has

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been Coach Prime, the ups anddowns. This would be another big win
for this entire program. Deon Sandersand company to go to Ucla, a
team that, by the way,is playing better defense than offense this year.
Gotta be a tough matchup for ShuitterSanders in this game. Yeah,
And I think that's the interesting thingabout UCLA. We talk about Southern cow
not being physical, where Ucla doesseem to be playing some physical football right

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now, especially on the defensive sidethat you're talking about. But prime time,
we'll see what you know coming offof a bye ken prime Time be
that opportunistic type of team and beable to go on the road and get
a signature win for this program,obviously in the first year with Coach Prime
as the head coach. Primetime gameseven thirty pm on ABC, so it's

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a spotlight game for Coach Prime eightpm. ACC that work. You mentioned
it earlier. Rich Number seventeen NorthCarolina feeling the mac Brown effect a little
bit late in the season. They'resix and one right now, three in
one of the ACC. Look onfor Georgia Tech, they're two and two
in the conference and they're lurking,they're lingering. Drake May fourteen touchdowns,
five interceptions. Bobby Dodd Stadium Tonighteight pm. Should be a raucous environment
as UNC is an eleven and ahalf point favorite. Number twenty five James

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Madison is in the top twenty five. Now they take on Old Dominion eight
pm, and then you've got numbereleven Oregon State and congrats once again to
DJU for having a great season sofar. Fifteen touchdowns, four interceptions.
Oregon State is six and one andlooking to roll forward into Pac twelve play
with a big win over a muchimproved Arizona team as well. It's gonna

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be just a slate that doesn't jumpout with a lot of great games,
but a lot of upset potential thisweek within that top twenty five structure,
I think and you talked about justthe separation, we're going to start seeing
some teams that will be able toseparate themselves. And who's going to be
some of the spoilers out there?All right, So final thoughts coming up
here. We'll take a look atsome of the key matchups against in C
State. Rich and I will makeour final score predictions, so stay tuned

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live from Camperdown Plaza, beautiful Greenville, South Carolina. The temperatures are
warming. We showed up here acouple of hours ago. We were chilly
here in the shade. We've gota good crowd we've got families out walking
their kids, strollers and dogs andall sorts of great family activities going on
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in the next few minutes. Sowe'll be part of that show as well
on the Clemson Athletic Network and youcan hear it on one of our affiliates
here on the iHeartRadio side ninety twopoint five w EESC. As we get
down to the nuts and bolts ofthis matchup Richmond Weaver, it's a disappointing
time for Clemson fans. We getthat debos Winney had talked about. It
been a lot of talking to mediaabout the fans staying upbeat, staying focused,

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and that one point five percent thatkeeps coming to mind. I think
after this loss, it's a bitof a humble pie for everybody, including
the head coach, and understanding thathis focus stays on what's ahead of him.
You've got to focus on getting awin against inca state however, you
need to what's happened has happened.It hasn't been pretty. The fumbles have
been bad, but you've got anNC State team here that's hungry to win.

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They've got a great linebacker and PeytonWilson there who can do a lot
of things to you. And Ithink offensively, you've got to start to
impose your will on the offensive line. It's not just about the fumbles.
That's been a big part of it, but you're averaging less than three yards
of carry for Shipley and for MafA. Like you said earlier, let's see
a little more of film MafA maybein this game. Yeah, I think

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there's an aspect of when you talkabout balance, and I think Clemson will
return to some of the balance thereon the offensive side with the run game
obviously very disappointing against Miami, andit's one of those scenarios. And when
we talk about balance, it doesn'tmean you're running the ball fifty percent of
the time and throwing the ball.The balance means that if a team is
able to take away one of yourstrengths, that you also have the ability

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to do what they're to do,the opposite of what they're taking away,
and so I think Clemson will beable to lean on the running game.
And can you use Phil MafA toa certain degree and have both of them
in the backfield, because I knowthe narrative is, oh, well,
film MafA is not a great passblocking back, and so if he's out
there by himself, everybody knows thatit's going to be a run. Well,

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here's also the thing. Even ifthat's the case, Film Offa is
average in six yards per carry.See, so go ahead and handed ball
to him and he's averaging four anda half yards per carry after first contact.
So who cares? If people knowwhat's going to happen, you still
have to stop it. That's it. That's the aspect of hey, just
go out there and now don't bethinking and overthinking. And we've talked about
that with Will Van Dervoord, thisparalysis by analysis, and now maybe the

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pressure is off Clemson a little bitand just go out there and play football
and have fun, no doubt aboutit. You talk about teams that are
having trouble finishing drives, it's importantfor Clemson to finish their drives. They
ring last in the conference right nowin Red zone offense conversions to touchdowns,
whereas in C State, you knowthey're having their own troubles there in terms

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of finishing their drives as well.State has some good defense. But again,
I look at this team game asa whole, both teams as a
whole. Clemson has had a greatdeal of success against Dave Dorian, at
least Davos Sweeney has. I'm notgonna go as low scoring as wolf Vannifort,
but I will say that Kate Klebnikwill have a better day exploit some
things in that second. I'm goingto say twenty one to fourteen is the
final here. Clemson wins a toughone at NC State guts and I'm right

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there in the same aspect. AndDave Dorn has not had good success against
Clemson. Obviously did beat Clemson lasttime the Tigers travel to Raleigh. But
I'm going twenty four to thirteen herefor the Tigers. I like it be
an improvement over last week. Obviously, just hold those leads in the fourth
quarter. Hey for will Vandervoard,for Richmond Weaver, for Trey Falco back

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