Animal Communication with Colleen Kersey

Today I speak with Colleen Kersey, who shares her incredible gift of animal communication, and some profound wisdom that she's received from the beloved pets she's connected with.

Here, Colleen shares the journey of discovering her gifts, and the beautiful spiritual bond between pets and their people. We also touch on some hard topics, like the impact of past traumas on our pets, and the difficult and emotional process of deciding when it's time to allow a pet to pass.

This episode is so beautiful it made me laugh *and* cry.  It's a celebration of our profound connection with animals, and an important reminder to cherish and connect with all of the animals in your life.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:06):
This is the Initiates Podcast.
I am your host and guide,natalie Grace.
Join me for an enlighteningexploration of spirituality,
mysticism and awakening.
It's my honor to journey withyou.
Hello, my friends, and welcometo the Initiates Podcast.

(00:32):
Thank you so much for joiningme.
Today I'm going to be sharingan interview.
I recently spoke to an amazingwoman named Colleen Cursey, who
is an animal communicator.
If you have listened to thispodcast before, you'll probably
know how important animals andpets are to me.

(00:55):
I am on a farm and I have adeep, deep soul bond with all of
my animals, but especially mylittle kitty, bread.
When I came into connectionwith Colleen, I immediately knew
that I wanted to speak to herabout her incredible gift of
being able to communicate withanimals, and pets especially,

(01:18):
and learn about what thisincredible purpose and job is
all about.
Colleen is based in France andruns a business called Authentic
Pathways.
She is an animal communicatoras well as a Reiki practitioner
and a Tarot teacher like me.

(01:39):
On today's episode, we talkabout what it is to communicate
with pets.
She shares her journey todiscovering her gift of being
able to communicate with animals.
I was really interested tolearn what she's learned about

(01:59):
animals and humans and theconnection and also just the
broader nature of existence.
Because animals are so wise andthey're such incredible
teachers, I really wanted tolearn what she's been taught.
Speaking multi-dimensionallywith so many pets and being the

(02:21):
conduit between the pet and theguardian, we explore soul
agreements that we have with ourpets and the roles they play in
our lives and our soul missions.
She shares some of the biggestwisdom teachings that she's
received from the pets thatshe's connected with so far.

(02:42):
It is such a wonderful episodeand I was really inspired to
share it this week becausethings are pretty heavy in the
world at the moment.
I always find that, no matterwhat's happening in our
consensus reality, when I dropinto nature especially when it's

(03:04):
in the present moment with ananimal or with my chickens or my
cat bread, it's so healing andbeautiful.
They really teach us so muchabout what it is to live in the
present and to be able tounderstand them on a deeper
level is such an incredible gift, and that is a gift I wanted to

(03:25):
share with you today.
If you're feeling the heavinessthat's existing in the world in
the collective energetic fieldright now, you're not alone.
There's some really heavy stuffhappening right now, but take a
moment to cherish the beautifulpets and animals in your life,
even if they're just the birdsand insects that visit your

(03:47):
garden or the little spider thathangs out in your bathroom with
you.
Whichever creatures are aroundyou in your little world, take a
moment to be present with them,because they're such an amazing
part of this incrediblebeautiful world that we live in.
Such wonderful teachers.

(04:09):
They hold so much wisdom.
This conversation is amazing.
It's multi-dimensional.
It really, while we don't talkabout the subject of earth magic
, it feels like the magic ofearth is explored here and it's
also quite cosmic.
The way Colleen works is reallyunique and cool and interesting
.
So I really hope you enjoy thisepisode.

(04:31):
If you would like to work withColleen, she does talk towards
the end of the episode about howyou can connect with her, but
of course, I'll pop all of thosedetails into the show notes and
enjoy the episode and receivingthis beautiful animal wisdom.
Colleen, thank you so much forjoining me today on the

(05:06):
initiates.
Love me to be here.
Thank you for inviting me.
I'm so intrigued to speak withyou today because you are, from
what I understand, an animalcommunicator.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I am indeed yes, I'm very excited to tell you how
that works too Awesome, I can'twait to explore that I have a
deep connection with animalsmyself.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
I've always been around cats Ever since I was a
little girl.
When I think back to mychildhood and what I loved and
my hobbies, there were justalways kittens around and always
kittens finding me.
This relationship with cats hascontinued on to current day.
I've got such a deep connectionwith my current kitty bread and

(05:51):
it's expanded into me and myvery late 30s moving from the
city always been a city girl toa regional part of where I live
in Australia with my partner totake over a farm.
It was so new to us but I'velearned so much on this journey
working with cattle.

(06:12):
I don't even like to call themcattle because that's a
commodity term.
They're beautiful cows, thesegorgeous cows.
I've started to care for sheeprecently, which has been such a
journey.
I've got some chickens as well.
I've got a son of full house.
I've become acquainted withbirds through that.

(06:34):
When I think of all of my bestand greatest teachers in my life
, animals are right up there.
Their chickens have taught me alot about birds and I have a
very deep connection and lovefor birds.
Now I'm wondering, colleen,could you tell me about how your
connection with animalsdeveloped.

(06:56):
Did it start in childhood foryou?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I would love to say that it did.
We often hear about storieswith people who were able to
talk to their childhood animaland they discovered that they
could understand it.
I don't have such a history.
Mine happened purely byaccident.
I wasn't expecting it at all, Iwasn't prepared for it.

(07:21):
In fact, I didn't even know itexisted.
I also practiced Reiki and Iwas doing a distance Reiki
session with this was only aboutfour years ago with a cat in
America.
I was deep in the zone withthis cat.
All of a sudden, this reallyvivid picture of tall bay

(07:45):
windows with these long mustardcurtains and a window seat with
a cushion really detailed poppedinto my head.
It took me so much by surprisethat I snapped out the zone,
thinking, oh my gosh, had Inodded off to sleep?
I thought perhaps I'd startedto snooze.
Nonetheless, when I reportedback to the owner of the cat at

(08:10):
the end of the session I'mreally glad I did mention it,
because I nearly didn't I saidto her gosh, this really strange
thing happened and I describedwhat had appeared.
She said oh my gosh, colleen,you've just described our lounge
window and the window seat iswhere the cat likes to sleep.
I was like what?
What do you mean?
She goes.
Well, the mustard curtains.

(08:31):
We have these long mustardcurtains and that's the cat's
favorite sleeping spot.
I remember being trying to bevery professional and go, oh,
it's okay.
Well, no problem.
Then I hope the cat's okay anddisconnected from the call going
what, what just happened?
And I mean, I always jot downnotes after recce sessions and
I'm also glad I did that,because I fear if I hadn't have

(08:53):
done that, I perhaps would havedismissed it.
But something negaled.
And I remember going on toGoogle, thinking I was
completely insane, and I justgoogled can animals talk to
people?
Thinking I was having like amad moment.
But sure enough, all thisinformation came back about
interspecies communication and Iwas like, oh my God, it's a
thing, people can do it.

(09:14):
And I just threw myself intowebsites, youtube channels, I
bought books, I did reading, Ilistened, I subscribed to every
single newsletter that I couldpossibly find and I just did as
much self-study as I possiblycould.
And it was great, but therestill wasn't a framework, if you

(09:39):
like.
I had all the knowledge and Iunderstood how it worked and I
understood that it was possibleand what you could do with it,
but I didn't really know how tostructure it and, as you know, I
teach tarot as well and I wasteaching a class and there was
an Australian lady in the classand we always chat about hi, my

(10:02):
name is blah blah and I comefrom here and this is why I want
to learn tarot and she said shewas a professional animal
communicator.
And I was like, oh my God, andyou know how, there's always
these signs from the universe,isn't there?
And I just thought, well, thisis it.
For months, you know years evenI'd been doing all this
personal research and here therewas this lady who was doing it
professionally.
So I did a course with her andshe was the one who explained to

(10:27):
me, who gave me the frameworkof how to prepare myself
mentally before a session, howto actually visually connect
with the animal and how tointerpret the various ways that
the messages came through.
And from that I just did casestudies friends, family,
unsuspecting people I just didas many case studies as I could

(10:48):
and when it became clear that,okay, this is actually working,
this is a thing, I decided to goprofessional.
So so, yes, it was, it waspurely accidental, but I'm very,
very grateful because I'm yeah,it's, it's.
It's such an incredible, suchan incredible privilege.
I still pinch myself.
You know, every time I do asession, when you kind of get to
the end of the session and youthink, no, sometimes you get

(11:14):
things come through and you justthink, really, when I've
learned that it's not up to meto understand what's coming
through, I just have to relaythat message back to the people
and 10 times out of 10, thepeople go oh, my gosh.
It's really funny that youshould say that because.
And then I think, oh, amazing,mind blowing, it really is mind
blowing, wow.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
That's so special because, as animal people, we
often sit there, sometimes justwishing we could understand what
our pets were trying to tell us.
So just a rise for you.
That's amazing.
So yeah, did you ever have anykind of psychic abilities that
you were aware of before that?
Like you spoke about doingReiki?

(11:55):
So you're obviously a tune toenergy, but what about, like
that clairvoyance that that hadappeared?
Was that something new to you?

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Totally new, natalie, totally new.
Even the Reiki was purelyaccidental.
I've had a very rigid religiousbackground that didn't embrace
spirituality, so none of thiswas really part of my growing up
and eight, I've lost record.

(12:28):
I'm eight.
Eight or nine years ago now,before we came to France, we
came here to visit my husband'smother who'd been living here
for a while, and we were at asocial function and I met a man
who had spent a time with ashaman in his past Very
interesting man, you know, oneof those that you just want to
sit for hours and talk to.

(12:50):
And we had this kind of joke.
You know, he forgot my name andI was being playful.
So I kind of put my hand out toshake his hand and I
reintroduced myself.
It was, it was kind of like ajokey thing.
But as soon as he touched myhand he got all like serious and
he goes you have healing hands,it's a gift, you mustn't waste
it.
And I was like my God, how muchhas this man had to drink?

(13:10):
But of course it wasn't becauseI was dismissing it immediately
.
But somebody doesn't saysomething like that to you and
you just forget it.
And I remember going back toEngland and thinking healing
hands, what's that all about?
And of course I Googled that.
Where would that be withoutGoogle?
I Googled that and I got allthe information about Reiki and

(13:32):
I just thought, great, you know,let's do it.
So that that was kind of thecatalyst, but, but, but no, you
know, prior to that nothing.
Really, I guess it was my time.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
And I love that you were so open to just exploring
these hints from the universe.
Some people would meet thatshaman and just be like, well, I
don't know what he's on.
Like you said, he must want alot to drink.
My hands healing I'm not evenon the healing, but you took
this.
When we're brave enough toexplore, it's really cool.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, yeah it was, it was amazing.
I mean, the Reiki was.
It was a fantastic start andeven just the experiences that I
had with that were wereincredible.
So yeah, but I guess that wasthe the starting point.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Really beautiful.
So how is it that you connectwith the animals or the animals
connect with you?

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Well, I would say, you see, it started to happen
the other way around.
But what I would say is I, Iconnect to the animal, I, I ask
you always ask permission,because there's nothing worse
than you're sitting at a cafeand someone just plonking
themselves down at the table andstart talking to you, right?
So it's always customary to askpermission.
So I guess I connect to theanimal and then, once I get that

(14:51):
permission and that's donepurely on a, on an energetic
basis, I kind of present theidea of of talking to the animal
and them sharing things, andthen I kind of weigh the
energetic feel of a yes and, away, the energetic feel of a no.
I've only ever once had a no,and it's it was because it was

(15:13):
an American, the dog wassleeping.
It was really odd.
I remember thinking, oh gosh, Iwonder if it wasn't.
It was like can you come backtomorrow please?
I'm, I'm snoozing, so, thankyou.
I've never had an animal whichhas, you know, refused to talk
to me just out of no thanks, I'mnot interested.
They all are very, very happyto share.
So I would connect to theanimal and I do it via sort of a

(15:37):
visualization.
I do sort of lots of chakrabalancing beforehand, make sure
that I'm calm.
I do lots of breathingexercises and then I have a
visualization technique that Iuse and then I ask the animal to
then, to then join me.
So I guess I present myself asan open right.
I'm here, ready, willing andable to chat if you're up for it

(16:00):
, and then they just, theyappear in my mind's eye and then
I take it.
I take it from me.
I hope that I'm patient.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I think I was rambling a bit to the end, so so
it's more of a clever way tothink for you that you see or do
you hear messages from them aswell.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
I get it in all shapes and forms.
Initially, when I connect, it'salways a clear point thing.
I always the animal appears inmy mind's eye and from that I
can immediately understand whatthe animal's character is.
So that's the first part of allmy readings, is I say to the
animal?
Well, actually, the first partis I get kind of a general

(16:39):
energetic feel about the animaland then the first thing I say
is tell me about yourself.
And I can see that from howthey act in the photo or how
they present themselves.
Sometimes they're upright andthe tail's going, sometimes
they're lounging around,sometimes they write in my face.
But when I start asking them thequestions, that will then

(17:03):
change how I get the answers andI get them through all of the
clays and some of those arereally enjoyable and some of
them not so much.
So when I first started, forinstance, I asked an animal if
they could share with me whattheir food tasted like, because
I was trying to establishwhether they enjoyed their food

(17:24):
Right.
So I was like you know, do youenjoy your food?
What does it taste like?
So they showed me and I got thetaste and I was like, ok, that
was horrible, I won't do thatagain.
So now I've had to change theway I asked the question.
So I asked the question morelike do you get a sense of
enjoyment from eating that food?

(17:46):
And then I kind of get that,you know, like a yes feeling or
a no feeling, rather thangetting the taste of dried beef,
kibble or something.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Wow.
So in your conversations withthe animals or the pets, is it
mostly driven by specificconcerns that the I don't like
to use the word owners, but theyeah, I know Do they come to you
with specific concerns, thatthey have worries or curiosities

(18:15):
about the animal, or is it moreof an open invitation for the
animal to tell you what they,what's happening with them?

Speaker 1 (18:24):
It's a little bit of both.
I think it's sometimes easierfor the.
I also struggle with the wordowner, although it slips out out
of habits.
I tend to more use the termguardian, so I'll just say
guardian, right?
So sometimes the guardian will,will say, will come to me with
specific, like you said,curiosities.

(18:46):
You know, we've just movedhouse.
You know, is the animal happierin the house?
Are they OK with the garden?
Do they need extra stimulationin the garden?
Do they need more toys?
You know, do they enjoy theirfood?
Do they get on OK with the cator the dog or the chickens or
the sheep or whatever?
So they are curiosities.

(19:07):
Yes, Sometimes people struggleto come up with those questions
and then I would kind of justask a little bit about the
animal, how it came to be withthe people, the situation that
they living in, and then fromthat I can say, right, OK, well,
if it's a rescue animal, let'sperhaps see if it's willing to
share a little bit about itspast and if that's a shefting,

(19:30):
anything in its current life andhow we can make its life more
comfortable.
So we can ask it that and we canask it perhaps if it feels, if
it feels safe and if it's happywith everyone, you know.
So I kind of help them compilethe questions quite often, as
we're doing now.
As you're having a conversation, other questions will come
through because you're having aconversation.

(19:52):
If an animal presents somethingand I'm like, oh OK, that's
interesting, you know what doesthat mean, or how do you feel
about that, Then you know it's aconversation.
But saying that the end of everyconversation I will always say
to the animal is there anythingyou would like to say?
Because I like to say it's aconversation, not an

(20:13):
interrogation.
So it's not like I arrive and,you know, ask them their
questions and go right.
Thanks very much.
You know, if I go, I alwaysgive them a chance to to have
their say at the end, andsometimes they do and sometimes
they just, you know, they'rejust happy to have said their
piece and you know they're happyto to end the session.
At least they give them thechance to say what they needed

(20:35):
to say.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Are they ever surprised that you're in their
field or super excited to have ahuman to talk to?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
I have had one or two animals that have kind of gone.
Wait, what you know I do, I do.
I mean I'm generally quite anexciting person anyway and I'm
kind of conscious of that.
So I do try to to calm myself alot before I connect with an
animal because I also don't knowif some animals are completely

(21:08):
comfortable with me being there.
You know I've had animals thathave gone.
You know great to have beenwaiting for you all morning like
they were expecting me somehow.
Others which are really excitedand are like bouncing around
because they've got so much tosay that they're like right,
colleen, you know, get your penand pencil or any you know ready
.
But others I have connected towhere I've literally had to sit

(21:32):
with them for 15 minutes, evensometimes sharing a bit of Reiki
, so that they just understandthat I'm not there in a
threatening way and I'm notthere to interrogate them.
I'm there to allow them, togive them a chance to speak.
And generally you know thatthat works, because I'm not.

(21:52):
I would never force an animal totalk.
You know, with rescues forinstance, if people want to know
about the animals past life,sometimes they'll, they'll give
some information and then I'lljust feel a really kind of
rigidity, and then I would getback to the people and say, look
, you know they've shared thisabout their past, but actually,
you know, we don't always wantto talk about our past when it's

(22:13):
not great, right?
So yeah, so we kind of leave itat that.
It's a combination of both, andI think many of us have rescue
animals and are aware often thatthey have traumatic backgrounds
.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
How do you understand that animals generally deal
with trauma?

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Each animal is different In my experience.
So I've had some animals whoand I guess it's the same with,
with, with, with people, isn'tit?
I've had some animals who, whohave really been affected by it
and I can feel, even from theenergy, that they feel.
They feel fragile, you know,they feel hesitant and they feel

(23:05):
almost skittish, but you cantell From the answers to the
questions that you know that, aswe go through the conversation,
that what they're looking foris a sense of security and a
sense of stability that willenable them to get that
confidence back that they aren'tgoing to be dumped or they

(23:27):
aren't going to be hit or theyaren't going to be abused or
they aren't going to be, youknow, shoved in a room with 50
other animals or whatever.
And yet I have spoken to otheranimals who, you know, have
shown me images of them, youknow, running away from
something and then spending timeout in the wild and learning to
survive by themselves, and howthey went looking for people.

(23:49):
So it's a it's a very, verydifferent scenario and I think I
like it to people.
You know, some people, twodifferent people, can go through
very similar situations butcome out of it Differently.
You know, some will come outstronger because they're I don't
know, they're natural bornfighters and they're like, yeah,
we can do this and I've learnedfrom my experiences.

(24:10):
And others will come out, youknow, bruised and will need much
longer to develop a sense ofsecurity and trust again.
So it's yeah, yeah, so they'reall.
Sometimes it's sad, they are,yeah, they are, and is that
something you can feel?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
You said that it's pretty much all about the fact
that you're not going to bedumped.
You said that it's pretty muchall the senses, the clear senses
.
So one of the class senses isclass entience, where we can
actually feel the feelings.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yes, yeah, and that's you know, that's one of I don't
want to say downsides to what Ido, because obviously I think
it's a very essential part of it.
But when I first started, youknow, when you're kind of new
and enthusiastic and you're like, yeah, I can talk to animals,
you know, and you kind of sitdown and you're like, right, how

(24:59):
does it feel?
And then they show you and yougo, oh, right, okay, you know,
and I have had some animals andI could say you learn to phrase
the questions, don't you?
You learn to phrase thequestions differently so that
you're not then putting yourselfin a position where the animal
kind of goes.
Well, you asked me what it feltlike.

(25:20):
You know, to have urine burnson my feet because I was kept in
a cage for, you know, a year.
But as a person, that'sinstinctively what you ask.
Oh no, you know, how does howdid that feel?
And so you learn very quicklynot to ask things like that.
You perhaps ask you know, do you, do you have anything left over

(25:42):
from that that you're stillstruggling with?
And then they'll go.
Well, you're, my feet are sore.
And then I say, okay, well, youknow why are your feet sore,
what is the problem with yourfeet?
And they say, well, it'sburning because I had no way to
pee.
And and then you, you, you getthe question that sometimes
you'll get the feeling from that.
You'll get the you know thefear and the frustration, but

(26:06):
sometimes you also get thephysical.
I get the physical sensation aswell.
So if I ask an animal because Itend to also ask an animal if
they're in any pain, so I do Ido specify with my readings that
I, that I'm not a vet,obviously, but I, if an animal

(26:27):
is able to say that they're inpain, then at least I can get
back to the person and say theanimal is experiencing pain in
their shoulder or their righthip or something, and it's a
burning sensation or whatever.
So, as one is the, the, thefeelings, as in the emotions, I
can also do physical sensationsas well.

(26:48):
And that's helpful because Ican say to the person right, the
animal has pain in their leftshoulder, but it feels like a
nervy sort of pain.
It's got that kind of tingling,shooting sensation, or it feels
muscular because it feels kindof stiff in in in this area

(27:08):
rather than in the joint.
So whilst I'm not diagnosing,I'm saying that the animal feels
that sensation.
So at least when they go to thevet they can say, right, okay,
there's, it's like a burningsensation, and that sometimes
enables them to to look at thespecific treatment, if that
makes sense.
Yeah, so, yeah, so that thatalso helps.

(27:30):
Yeah, but I had one experiencewhere I had to say to an animal
okay, thank you very much forshowing me.
You can have that back now,because I was flipping, saw,
yeah, shame, so yeah.
But you know, from the animal'sperspective, I think it's nice
for them to be able to.
Oh, finally, I can explain whatthis feels like.

(27:53):
And you know the the person canstop rubbing my foot, because
it's not my foot, that's theproblem, it's you know the bits
above the foot or something.
So it's, it's, it's you know itdoes help in all of you.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Oh, it's so sad to think about the trauma that kind
of imprints the animals,because generally they're so
loving and so sweet.
So let's change the subject andtalk about the more fun aspects
of your job.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
What are?

Speaker 2 (28:21):
the like bright and fun emotions that pets have.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Just trying to think of some examples.
I had a.
I had a fantastic chat with a.
It was actually my bestfriend's cat, she was a case
study for me before I wentprofessional and she had me an
asterisk, because I couldabsolutely picture this cat
wearing a business suit, justlike this, if you think about,

(28:51):
like a very, very strictbusiness woman, like a chief
fixer, you know who's got notime, time wasters, and she's.
She's there and you say whatyou have to say and she says
what she has to say and then youknow she moves on to the next
thing she was hysterical to talkto because I I had experience
of so many kind of, you know,loving, warm, gentle animals and

(29:13):
all of a sudden there was thislike right, what can I do for
you?
I was like, oh, okay, I'm well,you know my best friend.
She's asked yes, yes, yes, Iknow all that.
What are your questions?
Oh, okay, I'm, I'm, you know,and it was so funny.
But anyway, when we got to thethe, the one of the questions I
think one of the questions myfriend asked was what is there

(29:34):
something that you don't like?
So I immediately get thispicture of a litter tray in my
head.
Now I know that she's a she'slike an outdoor cat most of the
time, so she doesn't actuallyhave a litter tray.
That got like a cat nap.
So I remember thinking why sheshowed me this litter tray, you
know?
And eventually I say to okay,what is it with the litter tray,

(29:54):
what is it that you're tryingto show me?
So all of a sudden I get thefocus on the contents of this
litter tray.
Okay, there's this pile ofstuff in the middle of this
litter tray and I'm like, okay,so it's right.
Okay, so what is it with thefood?
Anyway, so what it turned outto be was that she she was
trying to explain to me.
Well, I had to do this byreally dissecting the

(30:15):
conversation because she was sobusinesslike.
She didn't actually come outwith what she was trying to say.
And what it was is that atnight time, my best friend and
her she has three dogs as wellas this cat they all jump up
onto the sofa and that's theirspecial treat.
They all jump up into the sofaand they have cuddle time.
But the dogs had really badwind and this cat would sit at

(30:37):
the end of the sofa and all of asudden she would jump up
because the smell that wouldemanate from the dogs obviously
smelled like poop.
So she was telling me what shedidn't like was poop and what I
had to establish through somequestions was it was the smell
of poop that was coming from thedog's rear end which was

(30:58):
actually breaking.
When it was historical, andbecause I've had such a such
like a formal chat with her,like I'd been interviewed by a
chief exec kind of feeling toexperience, it was just, it was
just so funny and you know, wegot into the conversation and I
would always say, you know,thank you very much for chatting
.
And she said you know, is thatit?

(31:19):
And I said, yes, you know,thank you very much, and
conversation was gone, like shejust give it.
And that was her done.
So they do come up with somevery, very funny, funny stories
and I had a one dog who told methat he he asked oh, lovely

(31:39):
question that the person askedcan you tell us something that
you know that we don't?
There's quite an intriguingquestion.
And this dog told me that itburied their slippers in the
garden and she was like, oh myGod, what did we?
The slippers were carrying, thedog was buried in the garden,
it was just yeah, they are, theyare they wonderful and they do

(32:02):
come up with them, withwonderful.
you know wonderful things.
There you go.
There's a lot more to animalsthan meets the eye.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
I mean I think we all I've had a number of cats, for
instance, and they have all hadsuch different personalities.
But to think that you can burstwith them in their
personalities, shine through inthat way, to the point that it
can just be like alarming andcomical for you, is so fun to
think about.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, it really is, it really is and it and it's
wonderful to you know, becauseI'm a cat person too, and it's
wonderful when you connect tothe animal.
You never know.
It's like meeting a new person,you know, you never know what
it's going to be like and it'sexciting because you, you, you,
when you meet somebody for thefirst time and you get to know

(32:50):
them and their view on life, youknow it's interesting and it's
intriguing and it's, it's funand it's, it's stimulating and
inspiring.
And I always feel when I endthe conversation that, you know,
I just, I just feel like I'vebeen uplifted in some way.
It's like, oh my gosh, you knowthat that that creature over

(33:11):
there, that little furball, hasactually got an opinion, or that
little furball absolutely is somischievous, he knows exactly
what he's doing, and it reallyis, it's really is wonderful, it
really is.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
They're such perceptive little creatures so I
imagine they've got lots ofopinions on what goes on in the
household and things around foodand that kind of thing.
But what about stuff that'shuman, stuff, like TV shows or
the stuff that they might absorbthat we wouldn't think they
understand?
Have you been shown anythingthat you're?
You were shocked that that theanimal kind of understood and

(33:47):
had an opinion about.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Oh, I can't think of anything offhand.
I know that animals tend tolabel their people quite often,
so I haven't haven't come acrossnot TV shows or anything like

(34:12):
that.
I'm just trying to think ifthere is anything similar.
But no, quite often if there'stwo people in the house just
thinking of one animal inparticular who refers to his two
mums as the soft one in thestern one.

(34:33):
But it was very quick to pointout that they were equal, just
different.
It didn't mean that the softone was better than the stern
one.
It's just he knew that hecouldn't get away with.
He couldn't get away with beingnaughty with the stern one, but
he knew he could get a coupleof treats and extra cuddles with
the soft one.

(34:54):
So yeah, but in answer to yourquestion, none that I can think
of right now.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Well, that's okay.
It sounds like they're moreconcerned with what's going on
in their sphere and they don'tneed all the extra pollution
that we put into ours.
Yeah, true, so how do pets seeus then?
I mean, you and I bothexpressed them discomfort in the
word on that.
We would much prefer to alignwith a term like guardian or or

(35:22):
protector or something like that.
I actually shared on one of mysocial media accounts this week
this beautiful video I foundthat was talking about that in
Hawaii.
In their language, they don'tcall pets the pets aren't their
possessions and they don't callthem owner.
They have a separate, uniqueword for that role, which was

(35:42):
kaku, I think it was.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
It's so funny.
You should say that, Nelly,because I have just seen that
exact same video this week and Iactually saved a screen of it
Beautiful.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, and I've been given a lot of insight into that
role, especially with the sheeprecently, because the sheep are
such precious little gentle,delicate creatures and I really
have started to understand whythere's the role of the shepherd
in relation to the sheep andthat's been a beautiful kind of
unraveling for me.
But, like I can see you reallyrelated to that beautiful video

(36:18):
too, that that's like a lost ora missing word from our language
, that beautiful caretaker rolein relation to an animal.
How do the animals see us inregards to that kind of pet and
owner relationship?

Speaker 1 (36:34):
It's interesting, actually, because this has been
a big thing on my LinkedIn.
Just recently, I did a polljust to go back slightly to how
how we call ourselves, before Igo on to what animals call us,
because I'm also intrigued bythis.
There's a very big move to moveaway from words such as owners,

(36:56):
although I've used the wordowner my entire life, not
because I feel sort of anypossessiveness over the animal,
but just because it's habits.
It's just what we boys callourselves.
But I did a poll with peopleasking what they call themselves
.
Do they call themselves master?
Oh my gosh, some people didvote for that.

(37:17):
Owner, guardian and then other,and I invited them to comment in
the comments with other termsand it was incredible.
I mean I got loads and loadsand loads of responses and it
was absolutely beautiful howpeople viewed themselves to
their animals.

(37:37):
So, guardian came up a lot, mumand dad came up a lot,
caretaker came up a lot.
There was another one,cardiovascular coach, came up A
lot, because this lady said,well, that's what my dog is.
It forces me out every day totake it for a walk and make sure

(37:58):
I get lots of exercise.
I thought, oh, that's got agood point.
But of course, the flip side tothis is what our animals call
us, and I was having a chat withsomeone the other day about
this and how I was going to.
That was going to be kind ofthe next poll that I put out,

(38:21):
because animals, it reallydepends on the relationship that
they have with the people andwhat that person has provided
for them.
You know what I mean.
So an animal has referred to itsperson as its rescuer because

(38:42):
the person did rescue it from apretty dire situation.
They I'm just trying to thinkthere was one the other day that
there was the soft one and thestern one, but they were a
couple.
I just can't think of it now.
There was one the other daythat I remember thinking, oh

(39:02):
gosh, that's a bit unusual.
Oh, there was one that therewas a I can't remember enough.
It was a cat or a dog thatreferred to its person as its
light.
Oh, which was, yeah, which wasreally lovely, really lovely.
But I mean, this animal had hadquite, a, quite a tough
background and this person theyjust felt like this person just

(39:26):
provided it with with lightness,so as a light, energetic feel.
So lightness so that it didn'tdidn't feel so heavily burdened
by what it had gone through, butalso light, as in torch, light
as in showing the way.
So that was actually, that wasactually quite lovely and
actually, and so many peoplehave been asking about this that

(39:50):
I I'm wondering if I shouldinclude it, because I have a
couple of set questions that Iask in addition to what people
ask, and I thought maybe itmight be quite nice to to ask
this now as a question withpeople you know, to the animal,
what, what term would you use todescribe your person, because I
think it would be quiteinteresting to see what
different animals they're doing.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Oh, that would be so beautiful.
I almost warned you that I'llprobably cry when talking to you
, but I didn't.
I'm like, no, I won't, but I'malready, I'm already going.
So how, how do how do our petscommunicate with us?
Do they ever expressfrustration that they're trying

(40:32):
to do that and we don't get it?
How?
How do they try to communicatewith us?

Speaker 1 (40:39):
It's funny, you should say that actually because
somebody, somebody, I'm doing alike an interview on a on a
blog and that's one of thequestions that the person asked
yesterday as well about that wasdo animals ever try to speak to
their people, and are theyfrustrated because they can't?
They're never frustrated.
I never.
I never get a.

(41:01):
I'm hesitating there because Ihave sometimes.
I was going to say I neverreally get a negative emotion,
not a negative emotion in thatway, but frustration, not an
angry frustration, but morefrustration, as.
Let me give you an example andthen it'll make sense.
So I spoke to a, I spoke to ahorse and owned, owned by a lady

(41:24):
, and this lady had quite lowself-esteem and this horse, the
frustration that the horse wasfeeling was that he could see in
her what she was and what shewas capable of, but she couldn't

(41:45):
.
And his frustration was from aposition of love, because it was
almost like he was saying toher you are so beautiful inside
and you have so much to give,but you just can't see it.
And he gave me this long spielto to relay back to her, which

(42:06):
of course, had her influx oftears because she, she could
relate to where it was comingfrom.
I had no idea until the horse,you know, gave me this message.
So that frustration was comingpurely from a position of of
love, in that he, he wanted herto know who was, but she

(42:27):
couldn't see it.
So we had quite an emotionalmoment when we were doing the
feedback from the session, as Iwas kind of reading out not
knowing the background,obviously reading out what the
horse was saying.
She was influx of tears, and itjust goes to show, though, that
the animals have a much deeperknowledge and understanding of

(42:48):
us than perhaps even we do.
So the frustration of not beingable to communicate from
animals comes comes from fromthat rather than from a oh.
So, heaven's sake, you know myperson's not.
You know, I keep, I keep doingXYZ and they still don't give me

(43:11):
treats.
It's often a lot.
It's often a lot deeper thanthan we think.
They know us better than wethink they do.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Oh, that is so beautiful.
I cried again.
Oh sorry, nedley.
No, no, that's why I'm here tospeak to you, because I love
this.
It's beautiful, they see us onthat soul level and that's just.
I think that's one of thereasons they're here right Like,
do you have, after all thiswork that you've done with
animals and being that conduitbetween the pet and the person,

(43:46):
do you have a kind of sense ofyour own understanding of what,
why animals are here, what rolethey play on this planet and
especially in relation to humans?

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yes, I get.
I get kind of two, two groups,if you like, one group which
have a very, very deeplyspiritual guiding aspect to them

(44:19):
.
I mean I have had profoundconversations with animals where
I kind of think, my God, youknow, this is amazing animals
that have.
I mean, I spoke to an animalthat chose to pass away just
before the lady had a baby sothat he could come back in

(44:43):
spirit form when the lady hadhad the baby, because he felt he
was better able to be of use asan animal guide to her than he
was as a physical cat in ahousehold with a young baby.
I mean that is mind blowing,that is absolutely mind blowing.
I mean it is one of those whereyou're kind of writing it and

(45:05):
you're thinking, no man, thiscan't be, this can't be.
But there were all the signs,all the messages that he was
giving me through this reading,plus all the signs that she was
getting on her side which shehadn't mentioned to me yet, and
so we, we had the feedback.
I mean that is, that's insane.
I mean you know, it's one ofthose readings where you kind of
sit and you go, wow, and youhave, I do.

(45:32):
I do get a few of those whichwhich are incredible and mind
blowing and incredibly moving.
I have a lot of animals that arethere to help their people
learn how to give and receivelove, so there's a lot of that.
So people aren't comfortableperhaps receiving love, but

(45:55):
they're okay with accepting headbutts from a cat and, you know,
over time they learn to acceptthat actually, if a cat can love
me and head butts me, I amworthy of love.
And then they learn to becomemore open to love from people.
And so you might think, oh gosh, you know, okay, head butts
from a cat is a very small thing, but to some people it's part

(46:17):
of a much longer journey oflearning to accept love on a on
a on a physical level.
And then you have other animalswhich aren't there to teach
their people anything, but arethere to learn from their people
and they are learning to trustor they are learning to become

(46:43):
confident in their ability to beworthy of love, or they are
learning to, you know, acceptthemselves as something that is
that is valuable.
So I think there was threegroups.
I said there were two, I lied,they're three.
Yeah, and you know they allhave their own kind of

(47:04):
categories, if you like.
There's the the hugely profound, the some that are just just
teaching their people about,about something, and others
which are there to learn, tolearn their own, their own
lessons really.
And of course, sometimes I get,I get taught lessons too.
So I I was chatting to abeautiful elderly Labrador and

(47:33):
because I'd had it was alsoearly days and because I'd had a
few, you know, profoundreadings, you get lulled into
this, this feeling that, oh gosh, you know every animal
communication session is goingto be profound and wow, animals
are all mind-blowing and andthey are.
But what I got taught in thatlesson was that they're

(47:53):
mind-blowing on different levels.
So, when I sat talking to thisLabrador, I was all sort of
geared up for, wow, you know,golden Labrador, we all know the
Labrador's are the, you know,the golden dog, and you know,
wow, this is going to be amazing.
And I got ready to to take downthis mind-blowing reading and
this Labrador told me that itswhole purpose in life was to

(48:18):
love its guardian to itsabsolute core of its heart.
I know, I know, even when I saynow I just think my gosh,
colleen, why didn't you stop onyour tracks?
But I was like yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
And because I was expectingthis reading to be profound and
I naively wanted it to beprofound and that wasn't

(48:40):
profound enough for me, and inmy mind I, this Labrador, kind
of cocked her head and looked atme and said that's it.
And I was like no, no, no, theycan't be it.
The person's paying for thisreading.
You know, it has to be morethan that.
I mean, obviously, yes, we'danswered all the questions that
they wanted to ask, but I wantedsomething mind-blowing.

(49:03):
I said there has to be more,there has to be more.
They can't be it.
And she just said why?
Why isn't that enough?
Why isn't it enough that myperson is my whole world and
that I love that person to theheart of my being.
Why isn't that enough?
And it kind of hit me and I waslike, oh God, I'm being chased
by a dog, and rightly so,because it was like, why have I

(49:26):
decided that that isn't valuableenough?
And that's when I kind ofrealized that everything that an
animal gives me is absolutelyvaluable in their eyes.
Absolutely valuable.
I can't decide, oh gosh, justbecause you've come back as an
animal guide means you're betterthan just loving your person.
Oh, terrible.
So I squirmed so much in myseat and thank goodness for the

(49:50):
gentleness of Labrador's becauseshe sat there and she just let
me squirm but I feltsufficiently embarrassed enough
to apologize and say, yeah, okay, I'm sorry, I hadn't you know.
And she was like you know, it'sokay, but I'd learnt my lesson.
And now I go in a little bitmore humble.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
We can never have enough humility, and I think
animals do bring that out of us,which is so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
And they bring it out of us in such a gentle way.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, yeah, do you think that?
Because I refer to my cat, brad, as my soulmate?
We have been through so muchtogether and he I can't describe
what a beautiful companion heis, and even through the most
kind of tumultuous times of mymore recent journey, he's always

(50:52):
just stayed so calm and so it'sjust this grounded force.
So I, yeah, I feel like, um,and I kind of believe in the
idea of soul agreements, thatall the people and animals, for
that matter, who are importantto us, um, we kind of know we're
going to encounter them when weincarnate here.

(51:14):
But is that something that youbelieve in, or that you've
gained insight into the kind ofsoul evolution of our pets and
if we're, if we're kind ofdestined to connect with them on
the earthly plane?

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Yes, absolutely Absolutely.
I've, when I've spoken toanimals, particularly the ones
where so I I believe, and I'vecome across in my readings, that
animals have multiple, multiplelifetimes and the animals that
have had multiple lifetimes arethe ones that come with the,
with the profound wisdom,because obviously they have all

(51:51):
those lifetimes of wisdom andexperience to tap into.
And those specific animals areaware of those lifetimes and
they are aware of what they'velearned in those lifetimes and
they and they share thosemessages.
And it's quite often thoseanimals that come through and
say that they were with thatperson in a previous lifetime,
maybe not as a cat, maybe yourcat was with you in another

(52:13):
lifetime, but you were a man andit was a dog.
It comes in a different form butbecause you have that bond, you
have that link, somehow in eachlifetime you will find each
other in a different way becausefor some reason you were bonded
and you're bonded for a reasonand, like you say, a soul
agreement.

(52:34):
I like, I like that term.
I haven't actually come acrossthat term.
I've come across soul mates andand those, but I like, I like
that term.
So, soul agreement, and youknow, you have animals that
sometimes I have animals, whenI've spoken to them that have
passed or are preparing to pass,hint at the fact that they will

(52:54):
come back, and they will comeback as something to either
continue their relationship withthe person in this lifetime or
that they will come back in a ina later lifetime.
And I think that just showsthat that they're not just a
person, they're that there is,there is some sort of link.
We might not know the reasonfor that link, other than it's

(53:18):
there and that's pretty damnfine.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Yeah, absolutely One thing that I've wondered about
bread.
So my journey with bread.
Here's a little Selkirk recrecs cap that I rescued from a
pretty shabby breeder who youknow the threats they do, that
if you don't take them that daythat they're going to put them
down and all sorts of nastystuff.
Yeah, I saw a picture of himand he didn't really have a name

(53:46):
or anything like that.
He was just kind of used forbreeding and he didn't have the
right kind of appearance orstructure so he was kind of
useless to them.
And I just saw a picture of himand I'm like, no matter what
happens, I'm going to take himfrom this lady because he's not
supposed to be there and even ifI'm not his person, I'll find
the person who is.
And it turns out I was hisperson.

(54:06):
So I was pretty happy aboutthat.
But he's had lots of healthissues.
So he always and I think thereader knew that he had a heart
defect for instance and didn'twant to deal with that because
she didn't tell me about it whenshe gave him to me but pretty
soon after I got him he hadheart failure and had
essentially a heart attack and Ihappened to just be late for

(54:29):
work that morning and was therewatching what happened and was
there to take him to the room.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Yeah, that's happened to be late for work.
Isn't it Funny how the verseworks.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Yeah, it absolutely is, and he managed to live
through that.
We got him on the correctmedication, but a couple of
years ago I think it was justbefore COVID so lucky it
happened just before COVID thathe ended up having.
You know, his heart issues arekind of managed and he's doing
pretty well with those at thatpoint.
But he had this growth in hischest and we were kind of given

(55:02):
the option Look, this is goingto be an expensive procedure,
there's no guarantee that he'sgoing to survive it.
It's up to you what we do andyou know it was.
Thankfully we did decide to gothrough with the procedure and
it went so smoothly and thisgrowth that was in his chest
cavity came out just like thisbeautiful, easy, smooth capsule.

(55:25):
It was incredible how it wasdescribed and, interestingly,
when that was happening, thenicest place for us to go while
the operation was happening wasthis convent, an old convent
that has like cafes and stuffnow in a garden.
But yeah, my partner and I wentto the convent and sat in the
convent grounds doing meditationand he was doing these

(55:46):
visualizations of this capsulein his chest just being elevated
like with kind of the hand ofGod pulled out gently and
everything going smoothly.
And it's exactly what happened.
But the recovery was quitedifficult.
He had a tube, a feeding tube,and it was obviously very
painful, yeah, and it lasted anumber of weeks his healing

(56:09):
journey and obviously I'vealways wondered you know, I hope
he understands that we're doingthis for his greatest good.
You know that we're not wantingto torture him with this pain.
Do the pets know when they haveto go through something like a
vet procedure or a surgery andthere's this, you know, pain

(56:30):
involved in this recovery.
That's difficult.
Do they understand that we'redoing it for their good?

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Absolutely, they do Absolutely.
When you were saying about himhaving the recovery, you know,
with the feeding tube, all thatI was getting from that was an
incredible feeling of love, andI think what happens is, when
you're caring for an animal, theenergy and the vibes that you
are giving off are all aboutlove.

(56:59):
They're all about love and careand concern, and those vibes
can be felt by the animals.
So the animal knows that whatthey're going through is because
you love and you care for them,because they can feel it coming
off you.
Conversely, when you're anxiousand upset and angry, they can
also feel those, which is whyanimals tend to hide.

(57:22):
If people are having anargument, or it's not so much
the noise is just because thevibes are coming off.
So, yes, absolutely, absolutely.
What I try to do for people whohave animals that are going in
for vet appointments or fortreatments or operations is I
connect with the animalbeforehand and I explain to them

(57:43):
in the visual terms, and soI'll get the deal from the
people.
Okay, what's going to happen,you know?
Will they get put in a catcarrier?
They'll get put in a car?
They get taken to the vet.
This is the procedure They'llbe in the vet for two nights
with recovery, you know, in yourcat's case with a feeding tube.
So then I would connect withthe animal and I would explain

(58:05):
and I would visualize, but thewhole time I would visualize the
people alongside it, you know,having this love and this
concern and perhaps sort ofcradling the animal you know,
close to them to show that theyhave love and concern.
And then I would explain asmuch as I could anyway that, yes

(58:26):
, you know you will be given aliquid, you will get sleepy, you
will wake up, you will feelpain, but it's okay, it's all
part of the journey, it will getbetter.
Your people will come andcollect you or be at home.
You will feel uncomfortable,you will have a feeding tube
here, here and here or whatever,but it's okay, you're safe,

(58:47):
you're loved, you will be caredfor.
And you know, quite often whenpeople go through something
scary, it's often the surpriseof it and the not knowing what's
going to happen that fills uswith fear.
I don't know about you.
Like I go to the dentist, Ialways say to the dentist tell
me what's going to happen beforeyou do it, so that I can

(59:08):
prepare myself.
And it's the same with animals.
So a combination of themknowing what's going to happen
with the vet appointment,alongside with knowing and
feeling that care and the lovethat's coming energetically off
their people, that sometimes canprovide a more comfortable

(59:29):
experience for the animal.
I mean, obviously I can't takethe pain away.
I'd love to be able to take thepain away, but you know we
can't do everything.
But yes, in answer to yourquestion, they absolutely can
feel it.
Yes, yes, and it does make adifference to them.
It does make a difference tothem, just on a flip side as
well.
You might be coming to this, Idon't know, but when animals are

(59:51):
about to pass, quite often Iget requests from them.
You know, because I'm part ofwhat I do is offer services to
animals that are about to passso that I can, you know, relay
messages in that last minute forpeople before the animal passes
or gets put to sleep, and oneof the things that I request is

(01:00:12):
for their people to be there, topeople to be there, to be
holding them, supporting them,so that they can feel that love
energetically from that people.
So I think that's also ananswer to your question that
they absolutely can, even thoughpeople are grieving and
obviously very distressed.
In that moment, they can stillfeel the love and they quite

(01:00:35):
often ask for it specificallyyeah, oh, that's so.
I don't know if you might getinto that later, but that's a
whole nother ball.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
I have been in that position with some of my animals
.
I've had a cat be euthanized inmy arms, my cat that I had for
quite a long time, and even achicken recently that wasn't
doing well.
We had to take her in and youknow, we didn't have a bond like
I did with my cat of, you know,seven years, but I thought it

(01:01:05):
was a very important job for meto sit there and soothe her.
Well, you know, that processwas taking place.
I think it's an important roleof being that kahoo, that we're
there to give them that comfortand be present with them at that
time, because they give us somuch.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Yeah, yeah, that's very, very true.
In that moment you were givingthem the value on you and yeah,
it is.
Yeah, it's hard and I know noteverybody's comfortable with it.
So it's not a criticism forthose who can't be with the
animals and I do know somepeople have chosen not to be and
I imagine that's a verydifficult choice.
But, yeah, the animals thatI've spoken to in my experience

(01:01:48):
have asked for their people tobe with them and in those cases
the people have managed to do it.
So you know it's worked out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Yeah, I'm going to ask a difficult question now.
We find it easier, I think alot of the time, and also
probably more humane, toeuthanize our pets when we
obviously know there's somethingwrong that they might be
suffering.
How do the pets feel about that?

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Curiously, the message I get most often is that
they trust that the people willmake the right decision when it
is required.
I've never had experience of ananimal going oh, I could have
lost it another three days.
I think that they know thatpeople will always well, they

(01:02:39):
know that caring owners becauseit's not like a huge
generalization, but caringowners always make the right
decision for their pet, fortheir animal, in that moment.
Yes, it's sometimes a questionI'm just trying to think of.
I had recently where the peoplewere thinking about putting

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their animal down and this wasquite mind-blowing.
They were thinking aboutputting the animal down because
the animal had deteriorated tosuch an extent.
The animal was like no, and Iwas like what?
The animal was like no, no, no,I'm not ready to go yet when I
can't do, and then proceeded tolist me two or three things that

(01:03:22):
they would not be able to doand when that happened then they
would be ready.
Literally, this was a Saturdayand the people had contacted me
to do an emergency reading forthe animal because the vet was
coming out on a Sunday to putthe animal to sleep.
I got back to the people and Iwas like your dog's not ready.
They were like what?
I was like he's not ready, he'snot ready, he's told me he's

(01:03:44):
not ready.
They were like no, no, no, butthe vet's coming tomorrow.
I was like, please, don't putyour dog to sleep because he's
not ready.
You're in that moment whereyou're thinking, oh my God, oh
my God.
Thankfully, when they read thewhole reading through, they
thought okay, well, at themoment he can do those XYZ
things that he listed.
Just give them the benefits ofthe doubt and not put him to

(01:04:09):
sleep and wait until he can't dothose things.
I'm very pleased to say thatwas March and it's now June and
he's still going.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah, sometimes they know thisparticular dog was very, very
confident.
Yes, he was ill, don't get mewrong.

(01:04:30):
He's not running around like apuppy now he is struggling and
he is deteriorating.
But very often other animalsare very much of yes, I'm ready.
Then they will specify actuallyI'd rather prefer to die at
home or I'd prefer to die athome in your arms.
One animal was very specificthat he wanted both his people

(01:04:52):
touching him at that moment.
Other animals are very muchlike no, no, no, actually I
would like help.
I'm happy when you think thetime is right for you to make
that decision.
For me, hugely emotionalreadings, those are hugely
emotional because animals speakvery, very, I want to say,

(01:05:14):
matter of factly.
But it's a little bit gentlerthan that.
We have so much baggage andemotion attached to death, don't
we?
Because there's so much of thematerial and physical world that
we are connected with and yetanimals, even though they have
the emotional link to the peoplethat they've built bonds with,

(01:05:35):
they're very much like.
Well, this is just the nextstep and I'm ready for it.
That can be quite difficult todeal with, because you're like,
but you got to die.
They're like, yeah, yeah, butso are you.
It's like speaking to a higherbeing who understands a much
bigger picture than perhaps wedo.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Yeah, that's so beautiful.
You reflected on what it feelslike for you that they're highly
emotional, I guess for everyoneinvolved, because you know just
hearing about it third hand.
I don't know the animals or thepet parents, but it's making me
emotional.
What kind of told us that takeon you?
Or how do you process andintegrate the information you

(01:06:22):
get from the animals?

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
When I first started professionally, I always throw
myself very enthusiastic intoeverything I do and that worked
for all my previous jobs.
I have to trade.
I'm learning.
I am learning to trade verycarefully with this because,
being an energy work, I hadn'tfully appreciated really just

(01:06:52):
how much I need to look aftermyself in between readings.
When I started professionally Iwas like, right, I could
probably squeeze in four or fivereadings a day and the
analytical side of me is goinggreat, I can help all these
people and it's going to beamazing and I can bring comfort

(01:07:13):
there and that animal can beheard.
Yes, I relish that, but it justis not possible.
I will do three readings a dayif there's an emergency and I
will make time for it.
I have an emergency thisafternoon that I'm having to do

(01:07:34):
a reading for, but other thanthat I will do two a day max
because I have to prepare myselfenergetically and also protect
myself energetically, because asmuch as I like to relate to the
animal and be open to what it'sfeeling, I can't put myself
through that day and day outbecause, whew, it's exhausting.

(01:07:54):
I have to be very strict abouthaving that downtime and coming
out of the readings anddisconnecting and the energy
cleansing that I have to gothrough after that.
Also, I did get asked the otherday what happens, what do you do

(01:08:15):
when an animal client dies?
Because obviously I'm speakingto animals that are about to
transition, and then I'm incontact with the people and they
let me know.
I always do a little ritual forthem, I always light a candle
and I put some crystals out andI wish them a safe journey and
nine times out of ten I crybecause the souls passed.

(01:08:37):
Of course that is hard.
It is hard, but I would muchrather be that person than a
person that goes right.
Good, I booked another clientand I've made another buck,
because that's all this is about.
So I think I would rather keepit smaller and more personal and

(01:08:57):
just try to be more disciplinedabout looking after myself
energetically.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
I'm sure all the animals and people that work
with you appreciate that aboutyou too and that they value that
over another communicator orchannel or conduit who might be
all about the money.
Yeah, yeah, I would hope so.
I have a few more questionsbefore we finish up that I'm

(01:09:25):
just re-estimating.
So I, being on the farm, I seedifferences in the different
species of animal, and I'veheard you talk about cats, about
dogs, about horses.
Are there any things that standout about each of those species
that is kind of common to them?

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
No, you know, and this is also something that the
lady who I'm asking questionsfor her blog post, fynian, I've
also asked that same questionDid I notice any differences
between species?
And I really wanted to say yes.
I can remember being reallyexcited to talk to my first
horse, you know, because horsesare magical creatures, and I

(01:10:08):
spoke to so many dogs and somany cats and I said, oh, you
know a horse.
This is amazing.
And, to be fair, that firsthorse that I spoke to, he was
quite a.
It was actually a horse inspirit and he was quite a
character.
But when I spoke to the nexthorse after that, I realized
that that first horse wasn'tsymbolic of what horses are like

(01:10:31):
in general, it was just hischaracter.
So so far, for me, I haven'tnoticed that, oh gosh, that's a
very specific cat feel or that'sa very specific dog feel.
For me, they're all animals andit's their personalities that
jump out, I guess, much likepeople, you can have sort of
American people, european people, chinese people.

(01:10:53):
They're all people but theyhave their differences, you know
, depending on their, theircultures and their uprings.
And it's the same with animals.
You know, I've spoken to somecats which are very laid back
and very chilled, or I've spokento, like the business lady cats
.
It's the same with dogs.
I've spoken to some that youknow, 16 years old, which come

(01:11:15):
across like puppies and thereading, and I've spoken to the
Labrador, who was very gentlewith justizing me.
So you know it's.
There's a whole host ofdifferences, but I haven't
noticed specific speciescharacteristics.
They're saying that I've not.
I've not spoken to sheep orcows yet, although although I

(01:11:36):
know we do have cows in thefield next to us here in rural
France and I often, I often goand speak to them, but that's
more of that, you know over thefence, kind of checking in on
them and seeing how they'regoing.
I have spoken to a bunny, butyeah, I mean I'd love to, I'd

(01:11:56):
love to experience more species,because I'm curious whether
domesticated animals have adifferent feel to, perhaps, wild
animals.
So I know we do.
We do get a few wild animalshere, but I would like to be
able to position myselfsomewhere where I'm not scaring
them and they're not scaring me,where I can say hi, my name's

(01:12:19):
Connean, I'm an animalcommunicator, do you fancy a
chat?
Yeah for taking it to that nextlevel of Dr Doolittle Community
.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Yeah, I like that.
I can give you some insightinto the cows.
They're unique because I watchthem communicate with each other
and they seem very telepathic.
They don't know at each othervery much, but I watch them and
I have had some instances whereit's usually I'm concerned about

(01:12:52):
where one of them might bebecause a sheep is missing.
So I've got like seven mostlymini sheep.
So they're not huge big beasts,but they've all got their
different personalities andsomething that's common with all
of them.
A few of them in particular, Ithink, have an energy that's
perhaps more closer invibrational resonance to mind,

(01:13:18):
perhaps that I'm able to kind ofconnect with a bit more deeply.
But yeah, when I've beenworried about a particular cow,
I'll ask one of the ones that Ifeel connected to where is the
cow, wally?
I'd be like where's Wally?
Show me Wally and I'll watchthem with their heads
interacting with each other, andthen a few minutes later, wally

(01:13:39):
appears out of behind abuilding.
That's amazing, yeah, and Iwill be doing that in my head.
I won't be even talking, I'llbe projecting images to them
through my own mind's eye andseeing how they respond, and
it's not something I rely on orcan do like every time I'm with
them, but I've definitely hadthat experience and have really

(01:14:01):
do feel like I observe oftentheir communication, their
telepathic communication witheach other.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's brilliant.
I mean, that's exactly how youwould do it.
Exactly how you would do it.
But it's interesting to watchtheir reaction Because you know,
the majority of the work that Ido is done using a photograph
online, so I don't I'm notinteracting with the animal.
So it's interesting hearing yousay you know you're there with

(01:14:28):
the cows and obviously you canactually see how they're now
interacting with each otherafter you've presented that
image to them.
That's fascinating.
I love that.
I'm going to go and look forthe cows in the fields this
afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
I love that.
Another trick with them.
They often really like when yousing to them.
So, yeah, really, yeah, yeah,see how they respond.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
That's lovely Yep.
Oh my gosh, I hope no one jumpspast the house today.
There's going to be that badEnglish.
Ladies to get to the cows inthe field next door.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
I love to hear what comes of your you know
connection with the cows.
I'm also interested in that andthat was a question for me
about, like you, connecting withwild animals and if animals
ever just come up to you andseek out connection with you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
No, but you know how I said earlier on, when you
asked me if, if, if I connectedto the animal, the animal
connects to me, and I said, well, one's happening a bit more
recently.
So what used to happen is thatI would make that, that, you
know, I had the framework ofconnecting to the animal.
And what's happening now,recently and perhaps it's coming

(01:15:39):
because obviously the more I dothis, my energetic links, my
intuition, becomes stronger I'mnow having it like this
afternoon when I'm wanting totalk to this particular cat.
I was thinking about it thismorning, going, oh gosh, yeah,
I'm going to connect to that cat.
And I got something immediatelyfrom the cat and I remember

(01:15:59):
thinking, oh gosh, that's.
You know, that's unusual becausenormally I would have like this
formal process, if you like, ofconnecting to the animal.
So it's interesting now thatthe animal, perhaps because I've
connected with it prior, itfeels like it, it can, it can do
that.
But yeah, I think, maybe withthe cows, I might, I might sort

(01:16:23):
of go approach the field andkind of just sit there, sit
there with that energeticreceptor feeling and just see if
, perhaps, if they, if theyconnect with me.
You know, if they go, hi, areyou going to speak to us?

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
I hope they do and I'd love to hear about it when
you do that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
I would.
My husband's going to love that.
He loves what I do.
He's very supportive and I'mgoing to go downstairs and say
I'm going to go, I'm off to singwith the cows, he's going to be
like okay, that's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Oh, I've so enjoyed this chat, colleen.
I've just got one more questionfor you before we finish up.
Is there something that thepets collectively or wish that
we all knew?
You spoke about some of thatdeep wisdom that's been shared
with you so far, but is thereany like big lesson or common
theme that they wish humans ingeneral understood?

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
No, I mean, there's this common, seems, about what
makes them happy, which arethings like a feeling of safety
and security and not Not beingin an environment that surprises
them, so in other words, beingin an environment that they're
able to trust.
You know where, they know wherethings are and what's happening

(01:17:54):
.
I know, I can certainly saythat animals trust us more than
we also give them credit for,because they understand us on a
much deeper level than werealize, and I think that

(01:18:22):
animals also love us on a muchdeeper level.
You know we love animals andexpress love to animals much
like we do to people, you know,by telling them we love them,
and you know stroking them orpatting them on the head or
whatever Not that I do that withmy husband, you know, but you

(01:18:45):
know what I mean, though youknow the way that people show
love is very similar to animalsas to people, as animals as to
people, but the love thatanimals have for us is on such a
deep level, it's not just asuperficial great.
I get treats, they give me awarm bed, the stroke, we pat me
on the head.

(01:19:05):
They love us on an energeticlevel, and that comes across
with how they describe the love,how they describe the links
that they have with people, howthey view people, what they see
around people, and I think thatif we, if we allowed ourselves

(01:19:29):
to be more open to that and moreunderstanding and receptive of
the type of love that animalshave to give to us, I really
think that we could learn a lot.
We could learn a lot aboutourselves, our hearts and
certainly our spirits, on a muchdeeper level.

(01:19:49):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
And is there anything that people with pets listening
right now should go and doafter they have stopped crying?
Well, I'm like, is theresomething they can do that with
their pets like right now?
That would just make their petsreally happy?

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
I would say when you express love for your animal,
don't just say it.
Imagine your whole body and allyour senses feeling that love.
Because, bearing in mind,animals will are receptive to
all those different energylevels.

(01:20:31):
So when you tell your animalyou love it, feel it in your
heart, experience it in yourwhole body.
In that moment when you'reexpressing love, how does your
whole body feel?
And immerse yourself in that?
When you tell your animal youlove it, because that animal
will feel that and that will itwill feel different to hey spot,

(01:20:56):
mommy loves you lots, alright.
So when you're just expressingthe words, compared to when
you're feeling it with yourwhole body and really connect
with the animal on all thoselevels, and you will notice a
difference because the animalwon't be just like receiving it
on a vocal basis with the energyit will be receiving the whole
package and it will be a muchdeeper way.

(01:21:19):
And then judge the animal'sreaction.
You know it might kind of look,it might kind of act
differently to what it usuallydoes, but that's because it's
going to pick up a change andjust see how you go with that.
But they'll notice thedifference.
That is like being hugged in atickly.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
That is so beautiful.
We're giving them like a fullbody, a full auric body, hug.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
And that's exactly right.
Yeah, how great right that'sprecious.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
That is so cool.
Thank you, Colleen.
Now, before we finish up, ifyou could, I'm sure everyone
listening with a pet will wantto work with you If you could
tell us about the services youprovide and how we can get in
contact with you.
Okie dokie.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
Well, I have a website it's
wwwauthenticpathwaysnet, and Ioffer packages depending on what
it is that you want to know andalso how many animals you have.
So I do have an individualsession as well, obviously.

(01:22:29):
But I find that sometimespeople with you know two animals
say oh, do you just discount ifyou've got two animals, rather
than the buy two individualsessions?
So I introduced packages sothere's a two pack, a three pack
and a four pack and thesepackages also help when we are
trying to understand or perhapstweak a behavior of an animal.

(01:22:51):
Sometimes it's helpful to havemultiple sessions, so one where
we listen to the animal and itsconcerns and its fears, and then
another one where we present,you know, alternative ideas of
how it you know, how it needs tobehave and what behavior is
acceptable, etc.
Etc.
And then how we can check on itat a later stage, or perhaps

(01:23:12):
checking with an animal beforeit goes to the vet and then
checking in with it afterwards,you know.
So the packages are there toallow for those types of things.
Email address is Colleen atAuthenticPathwaysnet, and my
social media of choice really isLinkedIn.

(01:23:33):
I'm very active on LinkedIn,but it is Colleen Kersi, but I'm
also available on Facebook.
So Colleen Kersi on Facebookand I'm always up for chatting
about animals.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Oh, colleen, I've watched some of the videos
you've shared on Facebook andthey're fantastic For those who
are on Facebook and LinkedIn.
I definitely encourage you tofollow Colleen, because the
animal wisdom you share, thoselittle kind of bite sized
sharing, are so amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
Oh, brilliant.
I'm glad you're enjoying them.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Oh, thank you so much for your time.
It's been an absolute pleasureto speak with you and I'm so
glad that the animals have youon their team.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
You're very welcome and thank you.
Thank you for your kind words,natalie.
Thank you, it's been great,it's been good fun.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
How amazing was that I had such a good time chatting
with Colleen and my mind wasblown more than once in that
conversation by the profoundwisdom that these beautiful
little creatures hold.
I hope that you enjoyed thischat and I'm sorry if you needed

(01:24:52):
the tissues during it.
You probably heard me snifflinga bit in the conversation
because I'm someone who isdeeply touched by anything to do
with the rainbow bridge andjust the sweet nature of our
pets in general.
It doesn't take much to get thetears flowing and I did try to

(01:25:16):
put a little disclaimer in theintro about that.
However, the words didn't comeand I think it was because some
of us might have needed a bit ofa cry.
I know when I was editing theepisode it felt quite cathartic
to have some release, and that'sjust another beautiful gift

(01:25:39):
that Colleen has been able toshare with us from the animals.
They definitely know what weneed in any given moment, and
anyone with a cat, or a dog forthat matter, will understand
what I'm talking about, becausein those moments when we really
seek in comfort, we can alwayscount on our beautiful pets.

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They're always there for us andthey teach us so much about
unconditional love.
That beautiful Labrador and itsunconditional love was just so
touching.
So I hope that you enjoyed thatas much as I did.
And check out Colleen Definitelyfollow her on Facebook and

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LinkedIn.
I'll be back soon with somemore interviews.
I've got a few lined up for you, so stay tuned for the next
episode.
Until then, connect with me onInstagram at theInitiates
Podcast or via my website,theinitiatespodcastcom.
Until next time, friends, Iwish you peace, I wish you

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beautiful, unconditional loveand I wish you the cutest puppy
and kitty cuddles.
Bye, bye, my friends.
I hope you enjoyed that as muchas I did.