Navigating the Subconscious: Astrology, Hypnosis, and Mysticism with Evelyn Zuel

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Natalie Grace (00:06):
This is the Initiates Podcast.
I am your host and guide,Natalie Grace.
Join me for an enlighteningexploration of spirituality,
mysticism and awakening.
It's my honour to journey withyou.
Welcome, friends.

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Thank you so much for joiningme.
On today's episode, i share aconversation with Evelyn Zall.
Evelyn is a writer, anastrologer, a hypnotist and a
forever seeker of the greatermysteries.
She runs the Mystic Parlor, aspiritual harb in the Mojave
Desert, where she conducts hersacred work and guides seekers

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as they journey through theirsubconscious to unlock past life
secrets and uncover their owninner truth.
Evelyn is one of my favouritemystics and creators.
I've been following her onlinefor a while now and I love all
of her work.
She is such a deep thinker andshe is an amazing researcher and

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a really insightful human.
She also posts some really funastrological analysis of stuff
that's happening in ourcollective societal sphere,
which is always superinteresting.
I was so honoured to chat withEvelyn and I am so thrilled to
share our conversation here withyou today.
I hope you enjoy it as much asI did.
We cover so much in this chat.

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We talk about astrology, wetalk about the nodal shift
that's about to occur for thecollective, we talk about
healing and hypnosis and pastlife regression, the afterlife
psyops.
It's such an interesting chat,so join me as we journey with
Evelyn Zool.
Welcome, evelyn to theinitiates.

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Hi, thanks for having me.
So I've been following you alittle while online and this is
the first time we've had aproper chat, which I'm really
excited about.
But I think I was first drawnto you by the whole aesthetic of
your creation, the mysticparlor, which, from watching
from afar, has gone on a bit ofan evolution.

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So I'd love to know about yourjourney to the mystic parlor,
what it is and what you do, whatyour sacred mission is.
Yeah, lovely.

Evelyn Zuel (02:51):
I started the mystic parlor with a friend and
it started out as a retail spacewith the purpose of creating a
place in the desert where peoplecould come together and explore
mystical topics tarot, candlemagic and the occult because

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they're currently at that timewasn't an option or an outlet
for that, which is reallysurprising because of the draw
of the desert, which ismysticism and spirituality.
So I created that space andthen I had never owned a store
before or even ever had doneretail to that caliber, but I

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had a lot of fun being able tocreate the aesthetic or the
image or the vision.
My background is in photography, so with visual arts, and I
drew a lot of my background toget all that set up with the

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website and all the marketing.
And then I was subletting thespace and the second year,
through the subletter, wanted it, that space back, and so this
is basically we started rightwhen the pandemic started,

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literally on the day of thelockdowns is when we had the
grand opening, which was avirtual opening, and then,
exactly almost two years later,the space needed to get taken
back from the original person.
So I closed it down And then inthe meantime I was always doing

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my astrology and hypnosis work.
So I just shifted back over towhat I was doing before, which
is astrology, hypnosis, makingbirth chart prints, and then
recently started a podcast.
So I've been working on thatAnd I've just been evolving it

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constantly.

And what has that felt like?
Has that been a creativeprocess for you?

It is.
I think that, as someone whoenjoys starting something new,
it might be a I don't know, idon't know if you'd call it an
issue necessarily, but I reallylike starting things.
I'll say that.
And then it is still yet to beseen to what extent those

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projects get maintained.
However, the whole inspiringinitiation, beginning part of a
journey, is really attractive tome, and so I think that has
seeped into my style with thework that I do, which is to

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create something new, evolve,kind of be on the next step to
keep it interesting.
I guess that's a part of my ADDbrain And then also, you know,
i'm a.
I have a lot of cardinal signsin my birth chart, so I think
that I just enjoy the pioneeringexperience of creating a new

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journey to go on.

I love that.
That's a real trailblazing kindof energy.

Yeah, never gets old, never gets boring, that's
for sure.

While you were talking, i was casting my mind
back to like hang on a minute.
I think I like initiallystumbled across you through
Magic of Eye.

Yeah, so I've been writing for Magic of Eye, doing
astrology prompts and articlesand blog posts for maybe about
three years now Three or fouryears.
Yeah, i carry the creator ofMagic of Eye.

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I saw her journals andimmediately fell in love.
I was really heavy into mybirth chart at the time And I
wanted to start a journal butknew it was such a huge
undertaking.
And then saw her journals forastrology journals and thought

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to myself well, she's doing itincredibly already.
There's no need for me to gointo this realm.
I'm just going to be maybe ahuge fan and supporter of her
work.
And it's funny because she saidthat she was going to make
birth chart prints but then sawthat I was doing them already

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And so she decided to pivot anddo journals instead.
So, yeah, and it's just been aninstant collaboration, like I
just really respect her work andwhat she's putting out there
for the astrological community.

Yeah, so if you're listening and you don't
know exactly what we're talkingabout, i'm sure you would have
seen somewhere on the internet,if not on your own bookshelf,
this amazing moon journal forthe year that has an amazing
cover either white or black, ithink, normally with this
beautiful gold foil And it'sbeen copied so many times now,

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but it's just.
There's nothing as magical asthis amazing book.
It really helped me to, like, iguess, become acquainted with
the energies, not only of themoon but of the, especially the
inner planets, just being ableto track them and her way of

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creating these keys to explain,to make everything so simple,
really complex astrologicalideas so simple.
And if you follow Magic of Eyeon Instagram or you're
subscribed to their newsletterand you would be familiar with
Evelyn's writings, Yeah, i'mdoing the weekly astrophorcasts

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for Magic of Eye and I was doingtheir Instagram posts for a
while.

But yeah, now doing those weeklies, which are a lot
of fun and really good for me,too, to keep on track with the
energies that are happening.
Yeah, an incredible journal.
It's so in depth, she has everytransit, every aspect, the

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breakdown, monthly, weekly,daily breakdowns.
It's really an end all for anyastro buff or even astro curious
person.

Definitely It's for all levels.
It's great Talking aboutastrology, then I'd love to hear
more about your journey andyour initiation into becoming an
astrologer.

Well, i've always loved astrology.
At a young age I rememberpicking up an astrology book and
reading about Libra for thefirst time in what?
maybe third grade, because Iclearly was always in the
library and loved the book fairsAnd I remember reading.

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I know this is probably now atmy level, i know this is just
mumbo jumbo, but at the time atmy age I was really fascinated
because I said, libra, you willhave a dimple on your right knee
And I was like, oh my gosh, ihave a dimple on my right knee.
This is amazing.
My little third grade mind Andit always stuck with me and

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always grew up in a religioushousehold that never fully felt
connected to the religion Andbut always knew I had spiritual
inclinations and questions.
So for me, the initiation camein when I was in my early 20s

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And I was going through somewhatof a life crisis health and
life crisis And I was dealingwith extreme eczema at the time
And figuring out.
It was just kind of one ofthose moments where I had to.
I really had to change everyaspect of my life in order to do

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the work to heal this eczema,because it was debilitating And
pretty much was just like in theshower, having like a come to
Jesus moment, like, okay, if I'mgoing to have to deal with this
debilitating eczema for therest of my life, this is, we're
not doing this.
Like God, if you're there, ifthis is real, if this is, you

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know, you know last ditch effortlike help me heal or I'm out of
here And I'll like come backagain and do it a different way.
And I think around the last,like a couple of days after that
, i just got the idea to startreading, learning astrology

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seriously and just making it myfull time hobby And I found a
lot of answers through astrology.
It helped with my healingjourney.
It gave me a lot of personalanswers that I needed, spiritual
answers, answers to just mybeing as a person.

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It really helped validate myexperiences in the world And
from then on I just have livedby it.

Yeah, everyone's kind of initiation story so
personal and unique, and it's sointeresting when it has to do
with your own healing and yourown like, those kind of moments
of spiritual crisis when you'relike, please, just like, show me
something you know, and theanswers start appearing.

Right, Yes, Yeah, And it's so subtle that way And
that's how I explain it topeople too who are going on
their journeys or beginning isreally all it is.
All all it requires of you isto just ask.
And it's so simple and we don'tthink to ask, but really it's

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once you just, you know, kind ofhands in the air, ask the
universe like help me, what do Ineed to know?
And, like you just mentioned,the answers just start kind of
popping up and you just startgetting this guidance from the
ethers or you know channeldirectly into your brain of you

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know, maybe foods to eat orvitamins that you need or
philosophies to start learning,And then it just kind of, yeah,
evolves from there.

That's really intriguing.
So how was it that theastrology in particular helped
you on your healing journey?

So this is a little bit of a long story And it
wasn't an immediate.
You know, it was throughout afew years of understanding and
getting like little pieces ofthe puzzle slowly to create a
bigger image.
But when I learned about, forinstance, what's in astrology

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called the North and South nodesin our charts, which is the
North and South node of the moonand their karmic role in our
lives, the more I started tounderstand.
You know the process ofunpacking karma in this life And
I'm like, okay, so I've gotMars, the planet of war, passion

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, anger, you know externalexpression on my South node of
past life, karma.
What is that all about?
I must have some karma to dealwith regarding anger.
So that's like one piece of thepuzzle, you know, at one point
in the journey and then you justkind of hold onto that, lock it

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in, keep going, learn some morestuff.
And then I ended up doing a pastlife regression which helped me
to see, specifically for myeczema, which helped me to see
that I had died in a past lifewith a lot of anger and like

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pent up anger and also in ahouse fire, fire Mars.
And so this is another piece ofthe puzzle, like, okay, pack it
away.
So now there's something thathas to do with anger for me and
healing my eczema.
Keep on going.
You know, years down the line Ilearned how to do past life

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regression and become a pastlife regressionist And then
learn through my schooling that,wow, yes, in fact, skin issues
such as eczema have to do withrepressed anger, and it's just
all of these little pieces, asthe years go by, come to unfold
into a bigger picture and helpedme to realize this healing

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journey is so multifaceted andso layered.
And yeah, so that's howastrology helped me just seeing.
Okay, you know, there's alittle piece of the put like the
key is Mars for me, which isnot in its best sign.
It's in Libra and it's alsoconnected to the south node.

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So I've got some things tounpack regarding my Mars
placement and what that meansfor me, and that's kind of how
it all snowballed.

I love that astrology back looking at your
natal chart and being able tofind these like directional
pointers.
If you're, if you're open to itand you're curious and you want
to explore that, there's somany ways that you can pinpoint
something that could be a rabbithole that leads you to some
really profound wisdom.

Yeah, and it's you know.
it's, i think, a process oftrusting the information and
trusting how it feels for youand not forgetting That's kind
of the big one.
Like not forgetting thatinformation that pops up for you

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, because when I do client work,you know they want answers,
people want to know the fullstory or the full spectrum
within an hour of us meeting AndI'll give them a piece of the
puzzle and like, okay, now it'syour turn.

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Like now it's now you go and godown that rabbit hole and find
out what that means for you,because that's a part of the
whole process for us all, ithink individually, because it's
more meaningful that way too,when you get to explore it for

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yourself and then find thoseanswers and have the
synchronicities and then havethose conversations with other
people that just match up, andthen everything starts to click.
As an astrologer, i'm just hereto guide you in the right
direction to get to that foryourself.

Yeah, that's such a good point.
I work with the tarot and it'skind of the same thing with
these.
You know individual readingswhere people usually come to you
, and I think astrology is alittle bit different because you
can have ongoing clients thatsay, come to you every year for
a solar return reading orsomething like that.
But with tarot it's usuallywhen there's a moment of crisis
or someone's bored And there'slike this sometimes or I should

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say often desperate energy tohave something answered.
But really what it is, or whatit should be seen as, is working
with someone who gives you aninvitation to explore.
It's like you said, here's whatI can see, that I only get to
see one layer of what you'reliving, and it's the invitation
for you to go deeper into youractual lived experience and

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unpack it for yourself.

Absolutely yes And yeah, you know.
That's what we're here to do, ibelieve, is to become self
aware and understand theintricacies of our inner world
and what makes us who we are andwhy we're here to begin with,
and I don't think any one personcould ever tell another person

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exactly what that is.
That's really up to theindividual to find out for
themselves, because that's thewhole point.
Otherwise, why even come, Youknow?

Oh, totally, and I think that's one of the things
we're remembering and awakeningto, is that our sovereignty
comes from not outsourcing ourpower to these external
so-called experts, whoever theymay be, whether it's a doctor or
an astrologer or a tarot readerit's simply, yes, it might be
someone very attuned and veryskilled, but it's still just

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their opinion of what they cansee from the outside of you and
your like wholeness.
So I think we're all startingto see these like single
dimensional ways of knowing andhealing and understanding life
and our health and our bodies.
They're starting to break downbecause, where we're at right

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now, we know we need somethingdeeper, we need something more
multi-dimensional in order toreally do the work 100%.

Yeah.
And I mean for my ex and Idon't know how many times I was
told by a dermatologist to washmy bedsheets.
I'm like, okay, bye, and that'sit.
You're like that's it, likethat's all you have to tell me
is take an allergy pill and washmy bedsheets every week.
That just doesn't.

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That's not the full picture.
So when I integrated thespiritual aspect and the health
and the diet and the lifestyle,then it became much more clear
of what it all meant for me AndI think it's the same for
everyone on any healing journey.

Absolutely So.
I'm really interested And thisis something that I love about
your astrology When I read yourwork.
You have talked in the pastabout the importance of the
North Node and South Node in thenatal chart, but obviously it's
something we've been workingwith.
We're about to go through thiscollective nodal shift as well,
so does that also apply that ithas to do with our past lives

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and our like destined evolutionfrom a personal perspective?
But what about for thecollective?

I love talking about nodal shifts for the
collective.
It's so fascinating to watch asthe nodes shift into new signs,
how people's focus shifts fromdifferent interests.
It's the way that I see it forthe collective is, for instance,

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the North and South Nodes havebeen in Taurus and Scorpio for
the last year, year or month orso And I've noticed you know
there's more.
It was a very, very apparent,of course, when it first
happened the interest in plantsthe plant boom happened and the

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like love for gardening andfarming and the interest in
agriculture and the land andbeauty.
I think like the beauty andskincare side just boomed and
went crazy.
And also art as well.
We talked about, you know, thiswhole progress with AI and

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evolution with art in the AIrealm.
That's definitely you know.
Taurus North Nodes represents aa pioneering new perspective in
whatever sign that it's in.
So with it going into Taurus,it is a brand new view on art

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and what it can accomplish or beused for for good or bad.
And with the karma aspect, ithink it's maybe not necessarily
so focused on karma or what thecollective karma is.
It's so personal and individual, but it seems to show in

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people's charts where they'refocusing on working through
their own interpersonal thingsfor themselves.
So moving into Aries and Libranext month or in July is, yeah,
the next nodal shift, which willbe a very, very strong and

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potent one, because it's Ariesand Libra which are cardinal
signs, whenever you have anycardinal transits, and it tends
to pick up the energy morequickly and we tend to feel more
, especially with Aries, moreenergized and reactive.
So I think that's gonna beinteresting because North Nodin

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Aries from what I'm picking upso far and feeling into is that
it's gonna be people'srelationship to how they react
to external stimuli, theirinstincts, their instinctual
reactions And also, since Ariesis ruled by Mars, of course,
their relationship to theiranger and aggression, conflict
resolution, confrontation on thecollective grand level.

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If you think of the world, if wepull out and look at maybe
politics and the world at large,conflict when it comes to Mars
type energies, which is military, so we'll probably see a lot of
criticism of military come upor just even people's own

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internal sort of questioning orcuriosity around what they think
about the military or how theyfeel about it and opening up
dialogue around what that meansfor each individual person And
then to the sense ofindividuality moving towards

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independence, confidence withinthe self, self node Libro.
So the self node is what we'relearning to not necessarily move
away from, but what we'relearning to integrate in order
to move towards what the Northnode is trying to teach us and

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its relationships.
So we're learning how tointegrate our relationship to
ourself so that we can beindependent within our
relationships with other people.
And so everyone's gonna have adifferent experience with that,
because the nodes are gonna betraveling through everyone's
birth chart in a different house.

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So depending on where Aries isfor you is gonna bring up
totally different lifeexperiences for everybody.
You know that depends on yourrising sign and what house Aries
rules.

Cool.
So with someone like me, i'venever asked an astrologer this
question, but I'm curious.
I have like a stellium in Libra, but I have nothing.
Maybe some like far away fixedstars in Aries, but Aries is
really blank in my natal chart.
So like what does that mean ifyou've got a sign that has a
lack of like planetary presencethere?

Then it's gonna be a whole new world for you.
It's gonna be a lot of newconcepts and new themes that you
were never really privy to.
That are is gonna expand andopen you up to a whole new
version of yourself.
And, depending on where Librais, where are, do you know what

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house all of your Libra is?

in The second and mostly the third.
Yeah.

Mostly the third.
So it's communication and yourway of communicating and
learning which, for you, makessense with this podcast, which
is collaborative, right, youknow, and conversational and
sharing of ideas, blending andmerging.
When the North nodes in Aries,for you it's gonna be realizing

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or learning about how to exploreyour own interests in an
independent way That doesn'tallow for or need or maybe
require that collaborativeprocess.
So you know, i think a lot of usare starting to already fuel

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the North node Aries peak inlittle.
We have thoughts, subconsciousthoughts, or maybe we're having
like little conversations withourselves already about what we
want to initiate or do more of.
And you know you may alreadyhave this kind of these thoughts
that you have for yourselfNorth node Aries in the ninth

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house, which is more travelingas well, more independent
traveling, doing things on yourown for the sake of doing them,
just because you're interestedin it and so that you can have
the freedom to think clearly foryourself, without the input of
other people's opinions.
So, yeah, when you have Iwouldn't say a lack, it's not

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like necessarily a lack of anyenergy, it's just that you know
Mars is will you just look tosee where Mars is in your chart
and then paint a fuller pictureof what that ninth house means
for you.

Cool, that's some good tips.
Thank you, so exciting timeswe're moving into.
I want to touch now on the pastlife side of things, because
you mentioned that past liferegression is something that
really helped you in yourjourney and that it led you to
become a past life regression asyourself.

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So what is past life regression?

So past life regression is a form of hypnosis
which is a therapeutic modalityand used to help people find
answers for chronic conditionstypically that have no medical

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basis for understanding.
Or even if there is a medicalbasis of understanding, you can
still do a past life regressionto understand why you were born
into the body that you were borninto, in order to experience
that physical reality.

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In that way You can also learnabout relationships, what the
purpose of certain relationshipsare.
If you notice that you have alot of patterns that reoccur in
your romantic relationships orfamilial or just even friend
relationships, those patternscan be revealed in a past life

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to teach you or show you how tonavigate that and learn from
that karmic pattern.
So it's really helpful.
I think it's a last ditch effortalmost for people.
I've done all these things.
I've gone to the doctors, I'vegone to all these therapists,

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I've gone to all these peopleand I still don't have any
answers.
It's clearly something deeperthan what modern medicine can
help me with, And so I find thatcurrently that's what a lot of
people tend to go towardshypnosis for, or past life

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regression work for.

And can you describe, like how it works?

So it is a so hypnosis.
The way that hypnosis works isthat you, the hypnotist will
guide you into a relaxed state,where you go into a sleep wake

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state.
It's very similar to the statewhere you are just waking up
from sleeping.
You know, you're kind of it'sthat moment where you can kind
of remember your dream, but it'sa little foggy or maybe you're
kind of starting to lose thedetails of what that dream is.
It's like that in between stateAnd being hypnotized is not as

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mysterious or magical as we'rekind of led to believe in
popular media and entertainment,but it's actually something
that happens to us all the time.
It's just being in a betabrainwave state, which is just

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below being awake.
So when you're in the betabrainwave state your
subconscious is much moresusceptible to suggestions and
just your environment around you.
You are conscious while you arehypnotized.

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That's also a misconception.
You can still hear.
You know well, some people willdepends on how deep some people
go.
Some people might, you know, gosuper deep, but in a past life
regression session, you're stillconscious.
It's almost as if yourconsciousness and your

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subconscious are just turned toan equal state, so they both
have the same amount of volumein your brain, and the way I
explain it to people, or howit's felt for me being in a past
life regression, is that yourconscious monkey mind is still
going.
Like the critical andanalogical and analysis part of

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your brain is still working.
Your subconscious, the volumeof your subconscious is just
pushed up so that it has morevolume and they're equal.
So you can almost it almostfeels like you're split, like
you can see both of your twoforms of consciousness and then

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your higher self is watchingthis happen, like this play
between the two of them.
You're like like ping pong,like what it's kind of.
It's pretty wild, but thesubconscious part of ourselves
is the memory keeper or therecord holder, and when you can
access the subconscious mind,then you that's where you can

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make a lot of really quick andradical changes in your belief
system and your thinkingpatterns.
And so that's why hypnosis isreally great for like smoking
cessation, for instance, orhabits or fear abatement,
because that's all those thingsare stemmed, all those habits
are located in the subconsciousand the conscious mind is just

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reacting to the stimulation dayby day.
But so that's how I explain it.
It's something you really haveto experience for yourself to
really know.

I really appreciate you going into detail
because, as we were discussingin our conversations before
today's chat, i have been in mypast quite, i wanna say,
suspicious or distrusting of notnecessarily or maybe it should
be hypnotists, but hypnosis moregenerally, and when we were

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talking about it I realized itstemmed from a lot of just like
pop culture, shonky, live TVhypnotists that had this like
recurring kind of pattern, nomatter where they were in the
world, of putting people underand making the women have
orgasms on stage in front of alive TV audience.

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That kind of like weird,unethical stuff.
So I'd love to know, like fromyour perspective, like how
important the kind of ethics andintention when working with a
client goes, especially giventhat sort of stain from the 90s
on hypnosis in general.

Yeah, which personally I think is a sigh up
to dissuade people from hypnosis, because it's such a powerful
tool And it really teaches ushow strongly we are influenced
and how easily our minds areinfluenced when we're in that
hypnotic state which, by the way, we get into very easily.
You get into the hypnotic statewatching TV, for instance.

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You get into the hypnotic statedriving your car, for instance,
anything that you're doing kindof mindlessly, and your mind
gets to wander or drift, or youget taken out of the current
time and space.
Basically is hypnosis.
So that's my little disclaimer.
So that's my little disclaimeron that.

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But yes, to back to your pointat the ethics of hypnosis, and
this is also why I'm like kindof passionate about the fact
that commercials are sonon-consensual And I don't
believe that they're ethical inany way, because they know that
you're already in a hypnotizedstate when you're watching a

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movie or you're kind ofengrossed or immersed in a film
or TV and then a commercial popsin to kind of infiltrate your
unconscious mind and give yousuggestions that you did not
have consent towards, which iswhy we're all programmed now to
see red and yellow and then havean immediate association with

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these symbols and words And youjust like immediately start
thinking about McDonald's orTaco Bell, and then that's a
program that's been programmedwithin you throughout your whole
entire life.
But so that's why consent isvery important, and I feel
really fortunate that I was ableto learn from people, from

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teachers, who understood theimportance of how delicate our
minds are and how susceptible weare to suggestion, because they
taught me that when you do apast life regression, for
instance, i am merely acontainer.

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I have no opinion, i am anunbiased observer And I make
sure that I exist as little aspossible in your experience,
because if I input any of my ownpersonal opinions, then that's
taking you out of yoursovereignty for your experience

(39:48):
and being able to have your own,i suppose true exploration of
your unconscious mind.
Now, when it comes to maybe thetherapeutic parts, which is
inserting positive suggestions,that's through a very deep

(40:10):
process of consultationbeforehand.
So we'll have an hour-longconsultation, and that's how I
was taught, too, was to ask asmany questions as possible about
the history, your personalviews, what's going on with you
unconsciously, consciously, whatyour thinking patterns are like

(40:31):
, why you think the things youdo, what you want to work on,
what your interests are, whatyour intentions are with this
session, so that I can be veryspecific in the suggestions that
I give that are going to bejust perfect and right for you.

(40:54):
Also, too, i like to impart thisthe idea or the notion that
your unconscious mind willautomatically reject anything
that's not right for you.
I think that's a part of thepre-hypnotic suggestions, though

(41:19):
It's like not all hypnotistswill give you that idea, but you
have to have that idea oralmost that permission from the
hypnotist in order for yourunconscious mind to be like oh
okay, so I can just rejectanything that I don't want or
reject anything that doesn'tmake sense for us.

(41:40):
Therefore, yeah, the consentaround that is really important,
because we're not trying toretraumatize anybody.
We're trying to help peoplemove through deep emotional

(42:00):
baggage I suppose that's storedin the body in the most gentle
and safe way possible.

I feel so much more at ease with the idea of
hypnosis now.
Thank you, you're welcome, butI do want to get more of my
cynicism out of the way becauseanother thing that I kind of
wonder about because you've saidyou want to be as I can't
remember the exact words youused but you don't want to be

(42:32):
injecting yourself or yournarratives into these hypnosis
sessions with your clients.
You want to be.
It's about them rather thanabout you.
Having, say, read and listen toa bunch of Dolores Cannon, for
instance, and following a fairfew QAHT past life

(42:57):
regressionists is that differentto what you do And do you have
any thoughts on that kind ofjourney?

It's pretty similar .
So the process and the system,the way it's set up, is similar.
I think the techniques are alittle different And I
personally have not had anysessions from well.
No, i had a session withsomeone who was trained with
QAHT through the Dolores CannonSchool And I can't say that her

(43:34):
style is exactly the way thatthey teach, because she'd been
doing it for quite some time Andso I think at that point she
had evolved her own techniques.
But I have had some clientsthat had an experience with it
and said that there were someprocesses where they felt like

(43:56):
maybe there weren't as muchfreedom for them.
And again, i can't really speakspecifically because I've never
learned exactly what they do,so I'm not totally sure.
But I do know that when itcomes to the foundation of the

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processes they're the similar.
It's just I think that eachhypnotist's technique maybe with
how intrusive they go isdifferent.

So is the outcome different as well?
Because if you're familiar witha new listener, if you're
familiar with Dolores Cannon andQAHT, there's a lot of going
way back to ancientcivilizations and to other
planets and alien races and thatkind of stuff.
It's pretty way out.

(44:56):
So is that what we shouldexpect from any past life
regression, or is there somewhatdifferent intention?

I will say Dolores Cannon had been doing this work
for what?
over 50 years, so she has acompendium of client experiences
to pull on And she's probablypulled the most exceptional ones

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throughout her history as ahypnotist.
So I will say that in my shortperiod relative to hers, i have
not experienced such exceptionalsessions with people, and I
think that she too, works withcertain clients.
Where she works with someoneand she sees that they can go

(45:49):
into certain places, such asmaybe alien races or ancient,
ancient civilizations, and Ithink she would specifically
continue to work with them tojust for her own research
purposes, which I've kind ofstarted to do for myself as well
Or if I have a friend or aclient that I'm like, oh okay,

(46:11):
this person is going into somealternate dimensions, maybe this
is someone that I would want towork freely with just for my
own personal research reasons orpurposes, and so it's not
common, and also it's not commonthat people will go to lives
where they are some fantasticalhistorical figure.

(46:35):
Actually, i've only come acrossI haven't come across that at
all in what?
two and a half, three years atthis point, because it's all
intentional around what theirpurpose is for getting the
regression.
For instance, it's wanting tounderstand their relationship to

(46:57):
their mother in this life andwhere it stems from.
Then they're going to go to alife that has to do specifically
with those types ofrelationships, and our guides
and our higher self are going totake us places that are
relevant, not for egoic purposes.

(47:19):
So I think it is.
Yeah, it's all different foreveryone.
I have had clients that go backto really really really ancient
times And, interestingly, thetheme that I've noticed within

(47:41):
those ancient lifetimes have alot to do with their
relationship to theirindependence and community.
So I think it's all verydifferent for everyone where
they go, but often it won't be.

(48:04):
I've had one person go to afairyland, but I think that was
and the Narsubconscious and ourguides are also particular too
like they went to the fairylandbecause it was more comfortable
for them to go there beforegoing to the life that we had to

(48:27):
do the work with.
So, yeah, there really is nokind of textbook guideline for
this work.

Yeah, got it.
So it's more like, obviously,if you're seeking someone out to
do this work with, such asyourself, you have an intention
about what you're wanting toseek And that's going to inform
where you're going.
you're basically going to betaking exactly where you need to
be to understand that issue ata deeper level.

Yeah, absolutely.
You can definitely do it out ofcuriosity and see, and your
intention could be.
you know which was one of mineand one of my recgressions is to
see the afterlife and just tosee what happens with the soul
when you go beyond.
If your intention is to want toconnect with alien life forms,

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then you know that's whereyou'll go.

It seems really similar to the Akashic records,
and I mean, lots of people hopeto see themselves as clear patra
, but you're probably going tobe showing something much more
mundane that's much morerelevant to you and what you're
needing to hear at that time.

Yeah, And especially when it's very
practical, like a practicalreason why they want to do the
regression.
I've noticed that the livesthat they go to almost mirror
parallel their life on thisearth now, which is pretty
fascinating.

Yeah, that is fascinating.
So, Ken, do you feel okay withsharing what, some of the stuff
that you saw or learned aboutthe afterlife?

Yeah, i love talking about this, it's so wild
.
So let's see, i went to a life,i died, and then I got taken up
into the sky, which is you know, these are all kind of very
standard things that happen Goup into the sky, i end up in an

(50:36):
orphic egg and while I'm in thisorphic egg I see a line of
deities like miles and miles,like hundreds and hundreds,
hundreds of deities all lined up, and then a pair of hands come

(50:57):
down and grab me And I feel likeI'm basically in a cradle And I
get the sense of a masculineand a feminine energy very, very
strongly equal, and then just areally powerful sense of

(51:20):
belonging and acceptance andcomfort.
And then, after that which I'llexplain to how this links up
with sort of mystical studies onthe afterlife But then I go
into the void, which is alsovery common.

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For almost every singleregression that I've ever done,
everyone goes into a black voidAnd it's called the void, and we
call it the void.
It's nothing, it's expansive,it's for miles and miles and
miles, nothing black, but itdoesn't feel scary And it just

(52:06):
is.
You're just floating there Andit's very calm and still and
quiet.
And then, in this void is whenthings start to pop up.
This is when you know kind ofthe imagination brings you into
different spaces.
And so, after being in thisvoid for a long time, i start to

(52:27):
see stars.
I start getting taken into aspace where I see a classroom.
I feel like that's also verycommon symbol or archetype too.
Go and see a classroom.
I see everyone in littleclusters, so it's like everyone

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has like a table that they'reall sitting at together with a
little cluster and they're alllearning something together and
they all have a teacher, and soit's a big room.
And I guess these littleclusters are kind of like maybe
soul soul tribes, or people whoare all learning the same lesson

(53:16):
together, or they're in thesame class, i suppose.
And then I got taken to a spacewhere I saw this web, like a
sheet of space time, with all ofthese little orbs of like souls

(53:37):
that were being developed, andI can imagine it in my mind.
It's hard to explain, but it'salmost like a wave of a wall,
like a wall that's wavy and kindof like a grid, and then all of
these little orbs where soulsare just kind of being developed

(53:58):
.
So, going back to the spacewhere all of the deities were
that I saw.
I explained all this to myfriend who, you know, she's also
an initiate and has beenlearning about spirituality for

(54:19):
a long time.
It was like, oh my gosh, thatsounds like one of the Bardos in
the Tibetan Book of the Dead,where, in the Tibetan Book of
the Dead, there's multiplelevels of existence outside of
this third dimension And one ofthem is the bardo where all the

(54:40):
deities exist.
And I was like, wow, that's sofascinating because I saw all of
them all there hanging out.
It was almost as if they wereall waiting in line to talk,
like to either I don't know,impart their archetypal wisdom

(55:01):
on me or just you know theirperception of reality, or I
don't really know, to be honest,but in the moment I was like,
oh my god, they're all falseidols and was having kind of a
bit of a existential crisis formy own spirituality of like,

(55:22):
yeah, all these deities, they'reall lined up, they're all in
the same space, you know,they're all in the same playing
field.
Meanwhile I get this, like youknow, godlike omniscient figure
come down and pull me up intoeven higher realm, which is this
masculine, feminine,mother-father figure, which is

(55:46):
the real source.
And so then I kind of had thislike oh gosh, you know, and at
the time I was doing a lot ofwork with different deities,
like Kali and you know, ymaiaand all you know, all the Greeks

(56:06):
and all the Egyptians, and so Ithink for me in that moment I
kind of was like reconsideringmy spiritual practice because of
that.

Wow, that sounds so powerful And like that must
have had such a huge impact onyou, like your, your energy and
your wisdom and yourself goingforward after that.

I think so.
I hope so.
I think so, but I think afterthat my desire to work with
deities subsided a bit And, yeah, now it's not so much focused.
My spiritual practice isn't sofocused on, you know, working

(56:58):
with goddesses as much as itused to be, which is like the
first time I'm ever kind ofpronouncing this to the public
actually, because I used to be,yeah, just so avid with deity
work.
Yeah, that now it's not soprevalent, it's just not as
important as it used to be,which there's nothing wrong with

(57:21):
working with deities And that'slike a whole other topic of
conversation.
But, yeah, i have no, no biasor opinion about it.
But for other people they justhave noticed I'm not as
interested, i guess.

Do you think that's because you got to meet
them and they received you, orwas it because they were at a
lower plane than the true kindof creator source, or have you
been able to put your finger onwhy that is Well?

in the moment in my mind I was kind of screaming
holy cow, look at all thesefalse idols.
And I didn't want to have thatthought penetrate into my mind,
like I didn't want.
That's not who, i did notbelieve that at the time, but it

(58:15):
just kind of popped into mybrain And I don't necessarily
believe that they're all falseidols, but and I do believe that
every deity holds an energeticpattern that is useful for

(58:36):
humans to work with, based offof their own personal
exploration and journey withtheir spirituality.
Maybe for me at the time it wasto show me that it wasn't
something that I had to focus onor work with anymore, that
maybe I could connect with thehigher source energy directly

(59:00):
without having to go throughother archetypal energy forms,
which is I see deities as justenergy patterns.

Yeah, they're all like different facets or faces
of that source energy, right?
So I can totally see how, afteryou engage that source energy,
that you know those facetsdeeply enough, because you've
received it in its whole, thatyou might not feel so compelled
to do that kind of devotionalpractice with the facets anymore

(59:36):
.
That makes so much sense to me.

Yeah, yeah, and it and I think for me it makes
things more complicated.
Yeah, when it's like the energyof the source of the omniscient
, masculine, feminine, was justso simple.

Yeah, yeah, and I've got nothing against that
kind of devotional practiceeither.
I think it's a really usefulway to learn and embody
archetypal energies in that way.
But yeah, and it can be reallyfun and really interesting and
provide lots of really goodstructure to your spiritual
practice.

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But I think we shouldn't everfeel like we're tied or indebted
to any particular type ofdevotional practice, like our
journey is always evolving andwhere it's totally okay for us
to change how we do things andwhat we're praying to 100%.

Evelyn Zuel (01:00:32):
Yeah, and I had a again it was.
It was contradictory to myspiritual practice at the time,
so I didn't want to believe thator I didn't want to have that
consciousness, but it just justentered into my brain And

(01:00:52):
because I liked working withDeities, i loved working with
Athena and I don't know ifanyone loves working with Kali,
but I was working with Kali andit was very helpful And also the
planetary energies as well.
So, yeah, and I think I dostill suggest it to some clients

(01:01:14):
too If I see in their chart,you know, oh, you know, for the
Mars situation again anger andaggression, right, like if I see
maybe there's a imbalance forsomeone energetically, and one
way or the other I can say, youknow, maybe maybe seek out
archetypes or Deities, gods orgoddesses that represent that

(01:01:41):
energy and then learn about themor try to integrate their
wisdom into your practice.
And yeah, i agree, you don'thave to do it for the rest of
your life, it's just howeverlong you need it for, and then
you can move on and then go onto, kind of the next energetic
lesson.

Natalie Grace (01:02:03):
Yeah, absolutely, And it sounds like any.
Any time we're like, we receivea kind of kernel of truth and
we don't want to accept it.
It's usually a really powerfulportal for transformation.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

On that note, I want to explore So we've talked
about past life regression inyour own healing journey and how
it's helpful for healingpatterns in your clients that
you work with.
What about fears?

Yeah, fears are very common.
Fear is interesting becausewhat I've learned through my
hypnosis not practice, butschooling or education is that
fear is a product of shame.

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It's a deeply rejected part ofourselves, And to integrate that
is a process of looking at whatit is that you're rejecting and
why, And so past liferegression hypnosis in general

(01:03:20):
can help with that.
You don't even really need togo into a past life.
You could, for instance, maybethat would be more of an age
regression situation where youwould go into the first moments
where you felt the instinct toreject whatever it is that
you're, whatever shame that youwere feeling.

(01:03:43):
So that's fear tends to besometimes a karmic thing from a
past life.
I think it's common that it'swell, that's how karma works.
Right?
You have either this integratedkarmic baggage, as I'll call it

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, and it comes into this life,And oftentimes early on in life
is when we're met with thatkarmic baggage because it's so
fresh for us.
So usually in childhood is whenwe're working on the same karma
that we had in a past life, ina most recent past life

(01:04:26):
experience, or a most potentpast life experience.
So I think you can do eitherway either, or you can either go
into a past life, find out whatthat is, or you can do an age
regression into childhood.

Yeah, that makes sense.
One thing that you mentionedbefore that I love talking about
.
I don't do much on this podcastbut PsyOps, knowing hypnosis
and you already mentioned thatcommercials are really kind of
insidious sort of PsyOps thatexist that we're all privy to if

(01:05:02):
we watch TV or movies.
Are there any other obvious orkind of famous sort of PsyOps
that you're aware of that usehypnosis?

Ooh, you know, i've been trying to figure that out.
If it's not just a general wayin which marketing and
advertisements are used againstus, i really think it's mostly

(01:05:40):
that That's kind of the biggestway that hypnosis is used to
manipulate our unconscious minds.
I think that the PsyOps when itcomes to hypnosis is the
propaganda that hypnosis is asilly entertainment tool for

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stage hypnotists and thatthere's no deeper therapeutic
purpose for it.
Because it's been proven allthe way back in the 50s that
hypnosis is a proven tool tohelp with anxiety, depression,
various sorts of psychologicalissues like everyday

(01:06:24):
psychological issues, ocd,smoking habits.
It's been proven, it's alreadybeen proven.
And so to me the PsyOps is topresent hypnosis as this wonky,
silly, non-serious tool that isjust for entertainment and

(01:06:47):
nothing else.
Because, yeah, like you'resaying, in the 80s and the 90s
it kind of became more prevalentwhen it was being studied, like
Freud was studying it, youngwas studying it.
It was studied in the early1900s And it's been proven time

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and time again scientificallythat it helps with various
ailments IBS, for instance,chronic pain.
It's used for cancer patientswith pain management.
It's used even in dentistoffices for patients who are not
able to use anesthesia.

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You can hypnotize somebody togo through a dental procedure
without anesthesia and theywon't feel pain.
Even for people who cannot getput under, have to be hypnotized
, or use hypnosis for surgerieswhich you know I've never.

(01:07:56):
That's definitely out of mywheelhouse.
Maybe at some point I'll beable to get to that level with
the more practice that I have.
However, it is proven that itworks for those things.
So it's just so mind-bogglingto me, or it's not mind-boggling
, but that's the way.
I've seen hypnosis used as aPSYOP against the public,

(01:08:17):
because when you learn hypnosis,you can do it on your own.
It really is just training yourmind how to get into a relaxed,
calm state, which is the betabrainwave state, so that you can
navigate your circumstancesmuch more in tune and in

(01:08:39):
alignment with your unconsciousmind And have access to that
information and the deeperaspects of your mind.
It's like using more of yourmind, basically, yeah, so that's

(01:09:00):
the way I see it.
That's why I think it's a PSYOP, like all these stage
hypnotists out therediscrediting hypnosis.

Absolutely.
And do you think or know thatwhile that stuff was happening,
say, the military and their hugebig budget experiments and
investigations were playing withhypnosis?

Yeah, Yep, they were definitely using hypnosis
as a tool to Well, the militaryuses hypnosis for their veterans
and for their military andcurrently and for therapeutic
purposes and also, to whatextent I don't know, for

(01:09:50):
undercover purposes.
But I know that they've beenexperimenting with hypnosis, as
I mentioned in the 50s with agovernment program called
MKUltra, and it has sinceevolved into various other
things.
But that's how they know thatall of these weapons so what is

(01:10:12):
it?
Audio weapons and laser beamweapons that can penetrate the
unconscious mind work.
That's how they know this stuffworks.
So back in the 50s, during thisproject called MKUltra, they

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were testing subjects to findout how they could essentially
create a superhuman or a supersoldier.
They wanted to be able tocreate or utilize hypnosis as a
tool to bypass the consciousmind so that they can talk

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specifically to the unconsciouswithin any given person, which
would then give them underinterrogation, for instance,
hypnotize someone and try to getthe answers that they need.
It didn't work necessarily likethat.
It didn't work to the extentthat they were wanting it to,

(01:11:20):
For instance, like I mentioned,under interrogation, because the
unconscious mind at some pointwill block things.
But, however, through theirexperimentation with hypnosis,
they've figured out how to splitthe conscious mind into

(01:11:45):
multiple different personalitiesand create kind of people with
multiple personality disorder,essentially So that they can
have different.
You know, you can have someonedo an egregious act without

(01:12:08):
their true self coming in withtheir own morals and values to
dissuade from the project or themission.
Yeah, that's a whole other topic.
I did do a talk on that that Igo much more deeper with my

(01:12:29):
co-host, Ashlyn, on YouTube.
If you want to find that on theMystic Parlor YouTube channel,
Then I'm going to also doanother one on that because it's
such a rich, deep, insidioushistory of the United States
that I think really needs to betalked about Also.

(01:12:50):
I will just add to sorry tokeep it going, but there's a
documentary that I recommendeverybody watch called Century
of Self.
It's a three-part BBCdocumentary which explains the
evolution of propaganda andmarketing in the United States
and Europe.
They talk about how Freud'snephew was essentially the head

(01:13:18):
of all of the marketing that wesee now with his research in his
uncle Freud's unconsciousstudies.
He used his uncle's unconsciousstudies to come up with better
marketing techniques and tactics.

Yeah, i've seen that and it's really
enlightening.
I encourage everyone listeningto go watch it.
If you haven't seen it.
It's really cool.
I'll definitely put links tothe stuff we're talking about in
the show notes to make it easyfor you guys to find.
One last question on that onthe more conspiracy side of
things, you talked about NKUltraand the way that hypnosis can

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be used against us in relationto marketing and advertising.
Do you see because when wethink of MKUltra we think of
celebrities who are being usedup by, say, the Hollywood
machine and used for specificpurposes Do you see hypnosis or
hypnotic kind of energy in anyof the Hollywood kind of content

(01:14:30):
?

Oh, i mean, every performance is a hypnotic
performance.
I don't know if people rememberAstro World, the very
unfortunate event where manypeople lost their lives The

(01:14:55):
stage set up and decor.
They had a spiral spinning inthe center of the stage on a big
screen, they had pyrotechnicsgoing off and just kind of
droning music, which that typeof music is meant to get you in

(01:15:19):
a hypnotic state because of itsdroning kind of repetitive beats
and lyrics.
I think every single highperformance of the lights, the
fantasy, the music, the musicand all of the flashing lights

(01:15:49):
and hypnotic sort of spectaclethat goes on is, in a sense,
putting you in a hypnotic state.
I just read an article recentlyabout how a recent Taylor Swift
concert all of these people onTikTok or whatever social media

(01:16:11):
they were communicating on, weresaying how they completely lost
time during that concert andthey couldn't remember anything.
They don't remember thebeginning, the middle and the
end.
All they remember is walkingout of the arena.
Multiple people this is veryrecent people were making the

(01:16:35):
same claims.
I'm like well, yeah, becausethey were under hypnosis.
One of the side effects ofhypnosis is lost time, memory
loss and a state of dissociation.
It happens all the time andmovies hypnotize us and can

(01:17:01):
infiltrate our unconscious mindsby, of course, injecting their
opinions and beliefs and values.
Ever since learning abouthypnosis and how sensitive our
unconscious minds are, i'vebecome so much more guarded with

(01:17:24):
what I receive.

I'm so with you and I'm not even a student or
practitioner of hypnosis, buthaving just observed the impact
that certain content on TV filmsdefinitely Even the other day I
hardly ever watched filmsanymore and I decided to watch a
couple of films just on theWorld Movies channel One was

(01:17:54):
about a father, and it wasspecifically about the
appearance of a father, a guywho was a woman whose husband
died and then she found a guy.
It was tragic the way he diedand she found a guy that looked
exactly like him and so shestarted stalking him to go into
relationship with him.
This is going to sound reallycrazy, but I was just like, oh

(01:18:16):
yeah, this is why I don't watchthis stuff anymore.
I was going into meditation thatnight and I was doing a
gratitude meditation and I wascalling in the image of my dad.
I swear to God, it was like aviewmaster, those toys where you
click it and then anotherpicture comes in of the man from

(01:18:36):
this film and I was like Idon't want to look at that guy,
i don't want to think about thatguy right now he's not even
real but the power of the storyand the visuals and the
emotional reaction that filmsare trying to elicit in us.
It is so incredibly powerful.
I was just like.
I know now why I cut off thatkind of content from my life.

How many times have you watched a movie and then
had a dream about it?

Yeah.

Because that's in your unconscious mind and your
unconscious mind is workingthrough the imagery and the
experience in dream time.

I have one more question before we finish up,
because I know we're gettingclose to our time.
But is there a way to clearyour cage and get rid of all
that junk so that it's notpolluting the stuff that we
really want to be filling ourfield?

That's such a good question.
I feel like the first thingthat comes to my mind is
grounding.
For some reason and maybe thisis, i don't know, coming from
somewhere, but grounding is aform of releasing pent-up or

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built-up energy in the ethericbody into the ground.
Just standing on the groundbarefoot on a sunny day and
recharging your battery orrecalibrating your battery that
way, because our bodies arebatteries.
It's essentially what we are.

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We're receivers and we have apositive and negative charge.
Receive the energy from the sunin the top of our head and then
we release the energy throughthe bottoms of our feet.
So I think if you go out intojust outside, stand on the
ground on a sunny day, visualizethe sun coming down through the

(01:20:44):
crowd of your head and flushingyour body through and then
releasing it out all into theground.
You can even do maybe anaffirmation or a mantra for
yourself that is whatever is notmine melts away, i release.
All others' will out of mybeing.
Any imagery, thoughts or ideasthat do not belong to me or are

(01:21:09):
not a part of my higher purposeare now exiting my being.
So you could do some sort ofpractice like that and it will
help.
Whatever is not mine.
Melts away is icing on the cake.
It's so great It works veryeffectively.

Oh, i love that.
Thank you for sharing that.
I want to add too that we'regiven this stimuli the vision
and the sound in our littleboxes when we're not outside,
just taking in all that natureis.
It gives us the vision, itgives us the sound.
But the difference in nature isthat there's no malice or ill

(01:21:48):
intent.
The trees aren't trying toprogram us.
They're just there to sharethis experience and give us
oxygen so we can live.
So it's a very powerful thingto even be consciously thinking
about how often we want todisengage from the natural world
and fill the gap with this kindof content.

Yeah, and nature is the ultimate healer in all ways
for us.
So I think just connecting withthat and making a clear
intention that that's what thepurpose is And I know it sounds
some people would prefer to havea very specific or go to a

(01:22:36):
reiki healer and do this or ashamanic soul retrieval or
something, but it's not eventhat complicated, really just
have to make the intention thatat this point in time, right now

(01:22:57):
, whatever has been infiltrated,whatever is infiltrated, my
unconscious mind is no longerwelcome And it just really is as
simple as that.

I love that.
That's like a mantra to sageyour field.
It's great, cool.
I think what we've coveredtoday is really cool because we
obviously talked about thereally incredible empowering
aspects of hypnosis and pastlife regression, when we are
using it to empower ourselvesand heal ourselves and learn

(01:23:34):
about ourselves and uncover ourown truths, but then also
building an awareness for howthis like mind state can be used
against us to program us withstuff that doesn't serve us.
So, while we kind of weretalking about the more negative
aspect in the last part, i thinkit's been really important for

(01:23:55):
us to just hold that awarenessthat our kind of energy and our
subconscious is precious andit's part of our job to keep it
kind of clear and healthy, justlike all the other aspects of
our bodies and ourselves 100%,and if you're a Beatles fan and

(01:24:21):
know anything about what JohnLennon talked about was how the
imagination is so integral tothe creation of our own reality
and that whatever you focus onwill create your third

(01:24:44):
dimensional existence.

So being extremely intentional with what you allow
into your unconscious mind andyour conscious mind too, is
really important.

Yeah definitely, and I think that's part of the
huge style to drain our energyso that we're not spending our
time imagining.
We're just spending our timerehashing this content we've
consumed.
So I love that you arefinishing up with that.
It's so powerful 100%, yep,absolutely.
Cool.

Okay, i know you offer so much stuff, so if you
could talk about your servicesand your offerings if people
want to work with you, yeah, soI do Past life regressions, age
regression, hypnosis, smokingcessation, hypnosis for anxiety,
depression or, if you just wantto work with me on a continual

(01:25:41):
basis, for overall well-being,and also astrology, of course.
Astrology birth chart readings,solar returns, saturn returns.
I do astro-cartography as wellReally the gamut of either
astrology or hypnosis.

(01:26:01):
And then I make birth chartprints, which is available on
Etsy, which is just a reallypretty print out of your birth
chart, and they make really goodgifts for your astro friends.
And you can listen to my podcaston Spotify and it's now on
Apple under the Mystic Parlor,as well as YouTube, which I put

(01:26:26):
up monthly astro forecasts withmy co-host, ashlyn from Muse
House Retreat, and, yeah, thoseare the things I've got in the
works.
I think I'm not sure when thiswill air, but on June 22nd I'm
doing a live hypnosis sound bathat the Joshua Tree Retreat

(01:26:47):
Center out here in Joshua Treethat, if you're in the area, you
can come and we're going to.
It's going to be a sound bathunder the stars outside in the
beautiful Mojave Desert Andwe're going to integrate the
energies of Mars and Venus andthe Cancer solstice season.

That sounds so beautiful.
I wish I lived closer to you,not on the other side of the
world, so that I could attendthat.
It sounds amazing.

Yeah, it should be a really special event.

And am I right in also mentioning that you have a
skincare brand?

I worked with.
I worked to collaborate andcreate, co-create this brand.
It's an astrological basedskincare line, once in a pink
moon, and that is all.
There's 12 products, one foreach zodiac, and each of the

(01:27:51):
products either a face wash,lotion or essence is designed
with herbs and plants that areassociated with the sign.
Amazing, So sure, Someoneshould find something for them.

(01:28:13):
Someone can find something thatworks for them, Absolutely.

You're a busy woman.
This is great, and if peoplewant to follow you on social
media, where do they find you?

You can find me on Instagram, evalynzool and the
Mystic Parlor and on all theSpotify and YouTubes that I
mentioned.
Yeah, i think that's all I'vegot.

Yeah, that's enough.
Yeah, i'll definitely grab allthose links from you and pop
them in the show notes so peoplecan find you.
It's been a pleasure and anhonor to chat with you, evelyn,
and yeah, thanks for coming onthe podcast.

Thanks with you as well.
Thank you so much.
I've been following yourpodcast as well since it came
out and was really intriguedwith the content that you're
doing.
Yeah, really thankful that youinvited me on to have a chat.

Oh, that's so sweet And everyone go and listen
to the Mystic Parlor podcast.
It's really great.
I'm sure you'll really like it.
Thank you, Evelyn.

Thank you, thank you so much How good was that
chat.

I hope you enjoyed it.
As mentioned, i've put all ofEvelyn's contact details, all
her links, all her offers intothe show notes so that you can
go follow her and check her outAnd, like I said, go listen to
her podcast.
It's excellent, especially ifyou're into psyops.
If you enjoyed this episode,share it with your friends,

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let me know what you think.
You can also chat to otherinitiates like you in the
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We love to unpack episodes inthe chat together as a group.
So if there's any topics wecovered that you'd like to
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We'd love to talk to you.
Thanks again for joining me Anduntil next episode, peace and
love, my friends.

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