November 20, 2025 • 28 mins
In this episode, Mike and Angie drop in from Cancun after the most powerful Choose Your Destiny Live Intensive they’ve ever led. They share the raw truth of what happened, how it didn’t go as expected, and what it means to surrender even when the outcome doesn’t match the energy. This is a behind-the-scenes look at trust, spiritual evolution, and the deep medicine of leadership in uncertain seasons.
Key Takeaways
- Even the Most Aligned Outcomes Aren’t Always Predictable
You can serve powerfully, have deep impact — and still experience a different result than expected. - Post-Event Stillness Is Non-Negotiable
After you give fully, your body and nervous system require space to empty and recharge. - Surrender Is the Season
This moment is about trust — not control, force, or hustle. The how and when are not your job. - Messiness Over Mastery
Teaching from uncertainty creates deeper leadership than pretending to have it all together. - The Work Is Real and Always Evolving
No matter how successful, leaders are always growing, learning, releasing, and listening.
Notable Quotes
- “Shadow work will help you do that. You put yourself into the experience that you're trying to avoid. You visualize the experience. You feel the experience. And then as you feel and amplify, you begin to breathe and release all the emotion that you've just dredged up.”
- “Life is not difficult. It's lack of trust in life that makes life so difficult.”
- “If a coach ever teaches from a place like they have it all figured out, run — run as hard and as fast as you can away from them.”
- “When you share your messiness, you gain people in your life who accept that we’re all messy together.”
- “The ego wants to control. The ego wants to make shit happen. The ego wants to be responsible for things happening.”
Call to Action
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📅 March 6–7, 2026 | 📍 St. Charles, MO
Two days of full-body energetic, emotional, and nervous system healing.
👉 Register Here
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SPEAKER_00 (00:04):
Do you ever wake up feeling like there's something
missing in your life?
Do you ever feel the need toescape your business?
Are you running your life or isyour life running you?
I'm Mike Kitko and I'll help youdesign and create a life so
authentic and aligned with whoyou really are that you'll get
excited just to wake up.
I'll help you create realwealth, success, and freedom
from the inside out.
Welcome to the Inner WealthPodcast, where we learn and
(00:27):
choose to live inspired each andevery day.
We're traveling.
We're on another another roadtrip.
SPEAKER_01 (00:41):
Sky trip.
SPEAKER_00 (00:43):
We're up.
SPEAKER_01 (00:44):
We are here at the Ryu Palace, Cucukan, in
beautiful Cancun, Mexico, rightback here.
You see the beautiful CaribbeanOcean behind us.
And I want to start by saying,I'm wondering how many woos
we're going to capture on thispodcast today because the woo
girls are out in full force downby the pool behind us.
So I think it's going to bereally funny to see how much
woos we catch.
SPEAKER_00 (01:05):
I think Angie coined that term, woo-girls.
SPEAKER_01 (01:08):
Oh no, that definitely isn't mine.
Oh no, okay.
I heard it was somewhere.
SPEAKER_00 (01:11):
The the only place I've heard it was from Angie,
but we actually, there wasactually a woo-guy yesterday.
SPEAKER_01 (01:15):
There was a woo-guy.
SPEAKER_00 (01:16):
It was a woo-guy, so it's very uncommon to hear a
woo-guy.
SPEAKER_01 (01:19):
There was one, yeah, one first woo-guy ever.
SPEAKER_00 (01:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (01:22):
So yeah, it's been a great, great couple days here so
far.
The weather's been perfect.
Um, yeah.
Yeah.
Looking forward to getting homethough, and back on the road
next week to to beautifulBaltimore, Maryland.
SPEAKER_00 (01:34):
So let's talk about that.
We we just had a two-dayworkshop Friday through Friday
and Saturday.
Yes.
We uh we served powerfully.
SPEAKER_01 (01:41):
Uh but it was by far the most powerful workshop.
Our Choose Your Destiny Liveintensive.
It was by far the most powerfuland impactful workshop we've
ever we've ever hosted.
SPEAKER_00 (01:51):
Yeah, I feel I feel amazing about the uh the
contribution that I made to thelives of people.
Um I feel really uh I don'tknow, fulfilled in how I served
and how we served because theroom was awesome, the room was
energized.
Angie and and Kara Dossi did agreat job of uh of putting the
the event on and scheduling andmaking sure everybody had what
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they need.
And it was like, from our team'sperspective, it was the greatest
uh the the greatest sessionwhere we showed up, we showed up
for people.
And what we're gonna talk abouta little bit is uh in this is
how things don't always go theway you the way you envisioned,
the way you planned, the way youyou dream it up in your own
mind, and and we get to workthrough that.
(02:32):
So but we just had our workshopFriday and Saturday.
Uh Sunday, we got on a plane,and what we learned is that
those things are in the momentfor me, they are extreme energy
draws.
I get energized, I get pumped, Iget excited, I get fulfilled.
But immediately after, you know,a couple hours after, even, um,
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man, the drain hits, and allthe, you know, all the energy
that I've drawn in just seems toseems to uh leak, I guess, in a
in a healthy way.
And and we uh what we learned iswe need a little bit of uh a
couple days to just haveemptiness and and recharge.
And that's why we're here.
So Sunday we got on a plane,came down to Cancun.
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We're here for uh, you know,what five days, four nights,
five days, whatever.
It's something like we'releaving Friday, and then we're
off to Baltimore next week totake our younger daughter to uh
her first Ravens game in in myhometown of Baltimore.
SPEAKER_01 (03:28):
Our first Thanksgiving.
Well, we've only spent oneThanksgiving outside of our
family home, and that was tovisit family in Louisville,
Kentucky.
But this is gonna be our firstThanksgiving ever being
somewhere not, yeah.
That's gonna be it's gonna beinteresting.
It's gonna be neat, newexperience.
SPEAKER_00 (03:44):
Our older daughter is going to uh go on to see her
boyfriend, and so she's weweren't gonna have our whole
family together anyway, so wesaid let's let's take our
daughter and let's take ourdaughter Megan and let's go and
and spend some time at a Ravensgame.
So it's gonna be fun.
SPEAKER_01 (03:57):
Katie will be spending Thanksgiving with the
Topeka Scarecrows with Mr.
Quinn O'Reilly and Megan will bepartying up with mom and dad in
Fells Point.
SPEAKER_00 (04:04):
That's right, that's right.
It's gonna be very exciting.
Eating crabs, eating crab cakes,crab cakes for Thanksgiving this
year, and seeing where we, whereour relationship, let's say,
where our relationshiporiginated and and blossomed.
Not always in a good way, in themost healthy way, but where our
relationship blossomed and we'vemade it, we've made it healthy
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the past couple of years.
SPEAKER_01 (04:25):
We've been going back home.
SPEAKER_00 (04:26):
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
We we've taken all the thetoxicity out of the relationship
and uh yeah, reconnected withour roots.
But look, look, here's what thelast few years have have taught
me something.
Um I'll tell you what it what ittaught us, but I'll I want to
express kind of what happenedand what's unfolded.
(04:46):
A couple years ago, we startedhaving a series of workshops
called the Choose Your DestinyLive Intensive.
And we've done one just aboutevery quarter for the last two
and a half years-ish, maybe,something like that.
Maybe, maybe even three, maybe.
But um when we started havingthese workshops, I would teach.
We'd have a growth, it's prettymuch been in the same location,
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except we did one in NewOrleans.
But in in each, in each uhintensive, we would serve for
two days, give, and then invitepeople into our mastermind.
And ultimately, at the end, whenwe would invite people in our
mastermind, people would joinour mastermind, and that is how
our mastermind grew.
(05:29):
And for about two years, holycow, it's like each each
mastermind or each intensive,the mastermind grew, and it was
a great mechanism.
And then for some reason, forsome reason, the uh the impact
was still there, but the invitewasn't as quite effective.
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The invite got more powerful,but the results from the invite
became less and less potent, andour mastermind stopped growing
in the same way.
And it it got less and less overtime until this last weekend, we
I was assured because of theimpact that we had in the room.
SPEAKER_01 (06:12):
We could physically see people having emotional
transformations in that room.
Like we could, we, we were, wewere witness to it.
SPEAKER_00 (06:20):
Yep, there were lots of tears, there was lots of
laughter, there was a lot oflots of connection.
From the from the first day tothe second day, people were
different, and the the entireenergy in the room was
different.
SPEAKER_01 (06:31):
Holy moly, the second day, I remember the room,
everybody was there people indifferent groups and standing
around and laughing andconnecting and sharing their
experience from the day beforeand hugging?
Yeah, my mind was blown.
I remember I actually texted oneof our clients, uh Suzanne, and
and said to her, I said, holyheck, the energy in this room,
because she asked how theworkshop was going.
So the energy's off the hook inhere this morning.
(06:53):
It was, it was.
SPEAKER_00 (06:55):
I had not felt, and we've had we've had good energy
in those rooms, but I have notfelt the energy like that in
those rooms.
It was powerful, and it was itwas almost like, yeah, I don't
know, it was almost too much tohandle in some cases, and maybe
that was the issue.
Because uh at the end, when weinvited people into our
mastermind, nobody joined.
(07:17):
A lot of people expressedinterest, a lot of people took
uh information home, informationpackets, but uh, but nobody
joined.
SPEAKER_02 (07:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (07:25):
What was what was your what was your takeaway when
when that happened?
And uh because I remember seeingKara on the side of the room.
Kara, what her role in in thatsession usually at the end is to
get people registered.
And usually there's a line ofpeople at Kara or a couple
people, and she's engaging andinteractive.
And what I remember is justseeing Kara off to the side by
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herself, like kind of twiddlingher thumbs.
What was what was your takeaway?
What was where were you mentallyand emotionally, even
spiritually, when that happened?
SPEAKER_01 (07:58):
Confused.
I I I was I was confused and umyou know the good thing was
there was no I I didn't feellike any emotion like stress,
anger, anxiety or whatever, butI was just confused because it's
like holy heck, like yeah.
Just confusion, and it's stillthere.
(08:18):
It's been a couple days, and Ithink we for sure you and I we
we we go on these trips and thisisn't just we there's not a
certain lot of surf surfacelevel crap we talk about.
And we've been kind of talkingthrough this the past couple
days.
It's just like what the heck?
Like what's being asked of us?
Where are we are we being are webeing asked to go when it served
differently?
Are we being asked to uh yeah, II don't know.
(08:41):
I mean, within our mastermindright now, we're getting really
deep into the soul sciences andand digging into our our gene
keys and our human design andour natal astrology.
And I mean my women's my women'stext thread is going crazy with
everyone coming coming up withall of the things they're
learning about themselves whileutilizing those tools and
analyzing dreams for Chat GPTusing your design, and it's just
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it's just wild.
And I I see this power of allthis information, these
teachings that we do, and soit's just confusion.
So I I don't know.
I'm still trying to figure thatout.
What about you?
SPEAKER_00 (09:16):
Same thing, and that's you know, that's kind of
why uh with with this, we we'rewe're not in this episode, we're
not looking to uh we're we'rewe're looking to help you
understand where we are in termsof the work that we're doing,
because we like to teach frommessiness, not mastery.
All right.
So if if a teacher, if for a ifa coach, if if anyone ever
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teaches from a place like theyhave it all figured out, run,
run as hard and as fast as youcan away from them because
there's nobody that has itfigured all figured out.
All right, everybody'severybody's in a uh in a place
of growth and evolution, andthings sometimes go the way you
you you dream them and sometimesthey they don't.
And in this situation, exactlyright, it was confusion.
(09:58):
It was confusion, it was, youknow, we we're when we put it
all together, the work thatwe're doing inside of the
mastermind is the most powerfulit's ever been.
The community is more connected,or the the mastermind is the
community of the mastermind ismore connected than we've ever
been.
Uh, we're doing better work thanwe ever have, more impactful
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work, more aligned work.
We have more aligned students inthere.
The workshop, people uh peopleregistered.
It didn't take a lot, you know,to for people to register.
A lot of people were registeringvoluntarily without a lot of
work.
So it seemed like there was anatural draw and a lot, uh a
natural attraction to to theworkshop.
So it was like, okay, if people,if people join this easily for
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the workshop, there's analignment happening.
And while the mastermind isaligning, this is going to show
us, you know, the continuation.
What I expected is continuationof the alignment of the work
that we've been doing to getinto an authentic place, a
powerful place with the messagethat I have inside me, the
message Angie has inside her toshare with the world.
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And when all of that, you know,lined up except the outcome, it
was very, very confusing.
It was very confusing becauseI'm doing nothing differently
right now than I did all thoseyears for things to happen and
grow.
SPEAKER_01 (11:19):
And in fact, I think we're, I think we're doing the
workshops are being run more inalignment with how we teach
within the mastermind now,because there was a time where
we weren't doing a a lot of the,you know, you're focusing a lot
on teaching the nervous systemand the nervous system work and
and uh understanding that youknow the somatic healing stuff.
And we didn't really do a lot ofthat in the the workshop.
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So then people would get intothe mastermind, and then we
would introduce these theseconcepts and these tools and
things to them, and they wouldbe like, oh my gosh, what is
this?
But we are we're very, veryclear about the work we do in
these workshops.
SPEAKER_00 (11:53):
And we're doing the we're doing the a work the work
in the workshop that we do inthe mastermind, and that we
invite and our retreats and weinvite, and there's an alignment
that's happening, but for somereason that result hasn't
occurred according to ourpreference and our expectation.
And I think that for me that isthe purpose of this this podcast
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episode, is I made I just made aFacebook post this morning and
said when you in all those yearswhere I took credit for the
results at the end of theworkshop where people stood up
and people joined ourmastermind, almost like look
what I did, and when youcontinue to do the same thing,
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maybe even more powerfully,maybe even more aligned, when
when the results don't happen,if there's if you take credit
for what's happened, then ofcourse there's a natural
evolution, a natural uh, Iguess, outcome of taking the
blame for when it doesn't.
When in reality, if life doesn'twant you to move in a certain
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direction at a certain time in acertain way, it's not gonna
happen.
It's not gonna happen.
And it's constant that, and thisis the the word that that I've
been using a lot is surrender,right?
Um in our in our rich uh in ourintensive and in some of the
work that we do and all the workthat we do, we talk about a
simple, simple concept where wecan get clear about exactly what
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we want in our life and create avision for what we want.
And most people know exactlywhat they don't want, but they
don't know what they want, andthat's why most people are
living a life that where theysettle for circumstances and for
outcomes.
So we get clear about what wewant.
That that's the for me, that wasthe easy part.
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But what this is showing is thehow and the when, and I teach
this, are none of ourresponsibility and none of our
business.
And when I have an expectation,and I set an expectation that
people are gonna stand up when Iask them to jump jump into
mastermind or invite them in,and they don't do it.
What I'm trying to do is forcean outcome of the when and the
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how.
And that's that leads todisappointment because those
things are completely out of ourcontrol.
We've been taught to hustle andgrind and make shit happen, but
in reality, that you can onlyyou can only move energy so much
in this world and you can't makedecisions for other people.
Any thoughts on that?
SPEAKER_01 (14:29):
Not really.
I mean, you say you said it verywell.
Um again, I'm just and therewasn't disappointment in me, and
there wasn't disappointment inyou or the outcomes or blaming
you for there was a littledisappointment immediately, but
then I worked through thedisappointment pretty quickly
just to get back to a state ofconfusion.
SPEAKER_00 (14:44):
And what what is this teaching us?
SPEAKER_01 (14:46):
And yeah, and yeah, and and I I you know we've both
been been you know working onreconnecting our relationship
with with God and and what youknow, asking God for guidance
and God, where where where areyou this is guidance, all right?
Where what is it?
Like, tell me.
SPEAKER_00 (15:01):
We're getting the guidance.
And I yeah, I woke up thismorning and I woke up at 5 30
and Angie was still sleeping,and and I I just laid there for
a little bit and said, Allright, all right, God, look,
it's go time, it's jam time.
Come on, tell me.
Let's go.
Let like tell me tell me what'sgoing on here, tell me where to
go, right?
And I used to I used to say thisprayer uh years ago, and I used
to say it daily.
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Tell me, tell me who to teach,where to find them, and what to
teach them, right?
Just let me know, and and thenpeople would show up.
So, you know, surrender.
Maybe it's time to go back tothat and stop trying to force
outcomes and control outcomes.
But what I've also learned overthe last 10 years is that the
next chapter that I have plannedsometimes isn't the best chapter
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for us.
And sometimes there's a betterchapter, a more meaningful
chapter, a more aligned chapter,a more fulfilling chapter.
And because I'm setting acourse, the uh the limitations
within my limited perspective ofthis universal dance keep us
keep us smaller than thannecessary.
So it's kind of a balancebetween creating a vision,
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right?
Because back in 2016, justwanted another job, right?
Right.
The next chapter I had plannedwas for me to get another job.
So that was from my littlelimited perspective of what I
was capable of, of what wasavailable to me, and and kind of
where the direction of theenergy of my life was going.
So sometimes it's just better toget out of the way and let life
(16:29):
bring you opportunities, right?
SPEAKER_01 (16:30):
Um and that there and therein lies the challenge.
SPEAKER_00 (16:33):
Therein lies the challenge, and that, my friends,
is surrender.
And listen, the ego does notlike surrender.
No, not at all.
The ego wants to control, theego wants to make shit happen,
the ego wants to be responsiblefor things happening, the ego
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wants to be able to predict thefuture, the ego wants to be able
to control reality because and Isaid this one on our community
call this this morning is uhlife is not difficult.
It's lack of trust in life thatmakes life so difficult.
And it's that trust, surrender,deep surrender, spiritual
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surrender requires a deep amountof trust and faith in life, in
yourself, in God.
And when we look back at ourlives, right, 27 years together,
but I'm 53, you're 47, there's atrail of breadcrumbs that you
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can look back with perfectclarity and a perfect
understanding.
You can look back and you cantie all the breadcrumbs in a
trail that they led to get here,but we don't trust tomorrow.
And we trust that the perfect,not always comfortable, but the
path that was laid out before usin the past that we couldn't see
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with clarity, right?
Hindsight's 2020, but the futureis is un, you know, it's it's
it's a little blurry.
But the path that you can lookback at and see the breadcrumbs
that are tied together, if wedon't trust them going forward,
then of course we're gonna tryto overcontrol.
Of course we're gonna try to,we're gonna grasp, of course
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we're gonna try to bend reality,of course we're going to give in
to the ego and and allow the egoto try to assume a control and
authority and play God in theworld.
Yeah right?
Of course we're gonna, you know,let our ego get in the way.
SPEAKER_01 (18:37):
Yeah, we have uh, and that that reminded me of we
have we have some clients rightnow in the mastermind who are
going through some some prettysignificant challenges in their
life.
And after we got off of ourmastermind call last week, I
believe it was, I was kind oftuning into her energy and
because I could feel I couldfeel her fear as she spoke on
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the call that day.
And so I sat down and I I justkind of just dove into it and
tapped into it.
And the message that I got, andI can't I it because it was a
message, I I won't remember thisverbatim, but it was what if
every challenge, obstacle,sudden uncertainty that God
sends your way is not a testfrom him to see how hard you can
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push through the challenge, buthow you can trust God that the
challenge is purposeful.
Yeah, something like it was itwas, but it's it's your tri his
question to you is trust, canyou be and let God let God be
and not do?
Something like that.
But it was just maybe it justbe, maybe it's just being this
right now.
SPEAKER_02 (19:41):
For sure.
SPEAKER_01 (19:41):
A lot of our students are in that place.
I get our text strings every dayare stillness, stillness,
beingness, being this, quiet,contemplation.
SPEAKER_00 (19:49):
Human being, not human doing, yeah, right?
Give up control, surrender,surrender and allow.
SPEAKER_02 (19:56):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:56):
Instead of instead of force, right?
Deep deep levels more, deeplevels of trust and of faith and
of surrender.
And and maybe maybe that's themaybe that's the the that's our
season, trust.
Our season, trust and faith.
SPEAKER_01 (20:16):
Trust, faith, stillness.
SPEAKER_00 (20:17):
Yeah, on on the community call this morning, you
know, do there's there's trustin God, and then there's
trusting God.
SPEAKER_02 (20:26):
Right?
SPEAKER_00 (20:27):
And they're different.
Sometimes there's a gap.
And and the the the bigger thegap between that, the uh the
more fear there's gonna be andthe more grasping there's gonna
be.
SPEAKER_02 (20:35):
Yeah, I like that.
SPEAKER_00 (20:37):
So anyway, just wanted to share where we are
right now.
And again, I hope you understandthat the inner wealth, uh, the
the inner wealth podcast isn'tjust about us telling us all uh
you guys about how greateverything is and how much we're
winning in life.
We share from messiness, weshare our struggles, we share
our challenges, and we inviteother people to come in and just
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be real with us.
Just be real with us.
And there's still people withinthe in the inner wealth
mastermind where I know thebiggest challenge that they're
going through, but they stillhaven't shared it with the rest
of the mastermind becausethere's that part of their ego
that they're protecting andthey're they're hiding and
they're they're they're keepingsecret from other people.
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And it's not my place to go andtell the mastermind, but they're
withholding it because there's amaybe a shame or maybe some
guilt or fear or some insecuritythat if if we share our
messiness, then we'll loseeverybody in our life.
But I really do believe thatwhen you share your messiness,
you you gain people in your lifewho accept that we're all messy
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together, we're all learningtogether, we're all perfectly
imperfect together, we're allgoing through something at some
time, and none of us have it allfigured out.
And uh one of uh one of myfavorite spiritual teachers, his
name is Dr.
Wayne Dyer, and uh he's nolonger with us.
But he said, if you when there'snothing more for you to work
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through in this human form,you'll turn to pixie dust.
So if you if you can seesomebody in their human form, it
means they've got work to do andthey're working on something.
Don't ever think that there'ssomebody in a body, there's
somebody here in physical form,there's somebody as a human
being that's not working throughsome sense of challenge,
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obstacle, or evolutionary path.
SPEAKER_01 (22:35):
Yeah, and I think it's important too to know to to
realize that by sharing youryour junk, your messiness, your
your the the the the trash ofyour life, that gives others
permission to do the same.
You know, you never know bysharing those things who you
impacted.
Like it makes it's val it valit's validating.
(22:56):
Like, and that's why I you knowI talk about when when Brian
Schroeder talks about his hishis when he almost hit bankrupt.
Darkness, yeah.
And it's like that him doingthat was huge in our
entrepreneurial journey.
SPEAKER_00 (23:07):
That gives people that gives people hope.
It's like, oh wow, okay.
SPEAKER_01 (23:09):
So if you're at this at this high level now and we're
just starting out, then wow,okay, so there is, it does do
this.
It doesn't just go, don't justshoot to the entrepreneurial
journey isn't one big mountainto reach the top, it's a
freaking roller coaster.
SPEAKER_00 (23:24):
The times in my speaking journey, and and Angie
was there for all of them.
The times in my speaking journeywhen I had the most people that
wanted to connect with me afterthe speaking event, it was when
I was at my most vulnerable andraw and sharing more of the
shadow shit because when weshare our shadow shit, it helps
other people feel more normal,more natural, more aligned, and
(23:49):
I guess less broken.
Yeah.
And I said a billion times overthe two-day intensive, you're
not broken and you don't need tobe fixed.
There's some just evolutionaryjourney and evolutionary stuff
that we're all working through,and uh, we're all working it
together.
SPEAKER_01 (24:04):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (24:04):
Any parting shots?
SPEAKER_01 (24:06):
I don't think so.
I think this I just I just Ilove having these conversations,
and I I actually I actuallyenjoy sharing this these these
things because you know I don'tever want anybody look at us
like we're no god all togetherbecause we don't.
SPEAKER_00 (24:18):
Nope.
All right.
Well, guys from uh from Cancun,we we just had a conversation
today, a little bit about are wetraveling too much?
And we've never had thatconversation before.
It's it's almost like we'rekinda we're kind of fatigued for
traveling.
And we we set this vision yearsand years ago, and now it's like
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holy crap, do we need to slowdown?
SPEAKER_01 (24:43):
Okay, but to be fair, in the in the vision, we
said one beach trip, one deserttrip, one mountain trip, and
then Europe per year.
And we've been to the beach fourtimes this year.
SPEAKER_00 (24:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:56):
Baltimore, yeah, we've been uh five times because
we went to the outer banks forthe retreat.
SPEAKER_00 (25:00):
That's exactly right.
And it's almost like when we gethome and and we get into any
place of stillness, we startlike we start getting the truck
getting the vacation shakes.
We gotta get back on the road,and then when we're on the road,
we're like, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (25:16):
We'll be recording a podcast from Baltimore, Maryland
next week.
Because we we record one everytime we go someplace.
So yeah, I think after I thinkafter after Baltimore, I think
it's gonna be maybe settling forthe holidays.
unknown (25:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (25:30):
Or so we say.
SPEAKER_01 (25:32):
Well, we did we did tell Brian we were gonna come
out to Sedona.
SPEAKER_00 (25:34):
We are going out to Sedona, yep.
SPEAKER_01 (25:36):
And that'll be and that'll be next year,
technically.
So that'll be our one deserttrip for next year.
SPEAKER_00 (25:41):
So we'll stick to our we're gonna start the year
strong.
SPEAKER_01 (25:44):
We're gonna go back to our original vision.
SPEAKER_00 (25:46):
Right.
And now we we we were we werejust sitting downstairs, and I I
mentioned when when we're whenwe're in Cancun, January, we
both kind of chuckled, but uhlove our life.
It it's not always it's notalways comfortable, it's not
always, and I'm not talkingabout comfort as in physical
comfort.
I'm talking about the journey,the evolutionary journey, the
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evolutionary path, the spiritualpath.
It's not always comfortable, butit it's beautiful.
And uh as as uh Robin Sharmaalways says, all change, and
we're in a state of change.
We are in a season of change.
All change is scary up front,messy in the middle, and
beautiful in the end.
(26:28):
And we're on the little bit ofthe scary at the beginning
because we don't know what thenext chapter is gonna be.
SPEAKER_01 (26:34):
We've been here so many times before, and we
survived and we made it through,and there's that trust in God.
SPEAKER_00 (26:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (26:41):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (26:42):
Yeah, wonderful.
Very cool.
SPEAKER_01 (26:44):
So we yeah, we have our next workshop planned for
March 6th and 7th.
SPEAKER_00 (26:47):
6th and 7th.
2026 at the same place.
Yeah.
Um, we'll I'll put the link inthe um in the in the uh show
notes.
Uh love to have anybody whowants to come in and do some
really, really powerful deepenergy work with us, some
healing work.
And uh, we're looking for whatthat next chapter holds with us,
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our business, not us, because weknow what our next we know what
our next chapter looks like, butwe're talking about the chapter
in the business and the chapterin the our ability to impact the
world.
SPEAKER_01 (27:19):
Yep.
Thanks again to Ryu PalaceCookCon for the accommodations
this week and the the great,beautiful location, and looking
forward to the next few days ofstillness, because we have done
a lot of stillness on this trip.
SPEAKER_00 (27:29):
We have, we absolutely have.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, all right.
Well, from the road, we don'tknow maybe maybe the episode
will be from Baltimore nextweek.
Might be a little tough torecord it, maybe, but we'll uh
maybe we'll get a a recording innext week, and maybe we'll be in
Baltimore and and it will justhave two in a row and we've
never done it before.
SPEAKER_01 (27:47):
No, we haven't.
Yep.
Awesome.
SPEAKER_00 (27:49):
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We're traveling.
We're on another another roadtrip.
SPEAKER_01 (00:41):
Sky trip.
SPEAKER_00 (00:43):
We're up.
SPEAKER_01 (00:44):
We are here at the Ryu Palace, Cucukan, in
beautiful Cancun, Mexico, rightback here.
You see the beautiful CaribbeanOcean behind us.
And I want to start by saying,I'm wondering how many woos
we're going to capture on thispodcast today because the woo
girls are out in full force downby the pool behind us.
So I think it's going to bereally funny to see how much
woos we catch.
SPEAKER_00 (01:05):
I think Angie coined that term, woo-girls.
SPEAKER_01 (01:08):
Oh no, that definitely isn't mine.
Oh no, okay.
I heard it was somewhere.
SPEAKER_00 (01:11):
The the only place I've heard it was from Angie,
but we actually, there wasactually a woo-guy yesterday.
SPEAKER_01 (01:15):
There was a woo-guy.
SPEAKER_00 (01:16):
It was a woo-guy, so it's very uncommon to hear a
woo-guy.
SPEAKER_01 (01:19):
There was one, yeah, one first woo-guy ever.
SPEAKER_00 (01:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (01:22):
So yeah, it's been a great, great couple days here so
far.
The weather's been perfect.
Um, yeah.
Yeah.
Looking forward to getting homethough, and back on the road
next week to to beautifulBaltimore, Maryland.
SPEAKER_00 (01:34):
So let's talk about that.
We we just had a two-dayworkshop Friday through Friday
and Saturday.
Yes.
We uh we served powerfully.
SPEAKER_01 (01:41):
Uh but it was by far the most powerful workshop.
Our Choose Your Destiny Liveintensive.
It was by far the most powerfuland impactful workshop we've
ever we've ever hosted.
SPEAKER_00 (01:51):
Yeah, I feel I feel amazing about the uh the
contribution that I made to thelives of people.
Um I feel really uh I don'tknow, fulfilled in how I served
and how we served because theroom was awesome, the room was
energized.
Angie and and Kara Dossi did agreat job of uh of putting the
the event on and scheduling andmaking sure everybody had what
(02:12):
they need.
And it was like, from our team'sperspective, it was the greatest
uh the the greatest sessionwhere we showed up, we showed up
for people.
And what we're gonna talk abouta little bit is uh in this is
how things don't always go theway you the way you envisioned,
the way you planned, the way youyou dream it up in your own
mind, and and we get to workthrough that.
(02:32):
So but we just had our workshopFriday and Saturday.
Uh Sunday, we got on a plane,and what we learned is that
those things are in the momentfor me, they are extreme energy
draws.
I get energized, I get pumped, Iget excited, I get fulfilled.
But immediately after, you know,a couple hours after, even, um,
(02:54):
man, the drain hits, and allthe, you know, all the energy
that I've drawn in just seems toseems to uh leak, I guess, in a
in a healthy way.
And and we uh what we learned iswe need a little bit of uh a
couple days to just haveemptiness and and recharge.
And that's why we're here.
So Sunday we got on a plane,came down to Cancun.
(03:15):
We're here for uh, you know,what five days, four nights,
five days, whatever.
It's something like we'releaving Friday, and then we're
off to Baltimore next week totake our younger daughter to uh
her first Ravens game in in myhometown of Baltimore.
SPEAKER_01 (03:28):
Our first Thanksgiving.
Well, we've only spent oneThanksgiving outside of our
family home, and that was tovisit family in Louisville,
Kentucky.
But this is gonna be our firstThanksgiving ever being
somewhere not, yeah.
That's gonna be it's gonna beinteresting.
It's gonna be neat, newexperience.
SPEAKER_00 (03:44):
Our older daughter is going to uh go on to see her
boyfriend, and so she's weweren't gonna have our whole
family together anyway, so wesaid let's let's take our
daughter and let's take ourdaughter Megan and let's go and
and spend some time at a Ravensgame.
So it's gonna be fun.
SPEAKER_01 (03:57):
Katie will be spending Thanksgiving with the
Topeka Scarecrows with Mr.
Quinn O'Reilly and Megan will bepartying up with mom and dad in
Fells Point.
SPEAKER_00 (04:04):
That's right, that's right.
It's gonna be very exciting.
Eating crabs, eating crab cakes,crab cakes for Thanksgiving this
year, and seeing where we, whereour relationship, let's say,
where our relationshiporiginated and and blossomed.
Not always in a good way, in themost healthy way, but where our
relationship blossomed and we'vemade it, we've made it healthy
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the past couple of years.
SPEAKER_01 (04:25):
We've been going back home.
SPEAKER_00 (04:26):
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
We we've taken all the thetoxicity out of the relationship
and uh yeah, reconnected withour roots.
But look, look, here's what thelast few years have have taught
me something.
Um I'll tell you what it what ittaught us, but I'll I want to
express kind of what happenedand what's unfolded.
(04:46):
A couple years ago, we startedhaving a series of workshops
called the Choose Your DestinyLive Intensive.
And we've done one just aboutevery quarter for the last two
and a half years-ish, maybe,something like that.
Maybe, maybe even three, maybe.
But um when we started havingthese workshops, I would teach.
We'd have a growth, it's prettymuch been in the same location,
(05:09):
except we did one in NewOrleans.
But in in each, in each uhintensive, we would serve for
two days, give, and then invitepeople into our mastermind.
And ultimately, at the end, whenwe would invite people in our
mastermind, people would joinour mastermind, and that is how
our mastermind grew.
(05:29):
And for about two years, holycow, it's like each each
mastermind or each intensive,the mastermind grew, and it was
a great mechanism.
And then for some reason, forsome reason, the uh the impact
was still there, but the invitewasn't as quite effective.
(05:51):
The invite got more powerful,but the results from the invite
became less and less potent, andour mastermind stopped growing
in the same way.
And it it got less and less overtime until this last weekend, we
I was assured because of theimpact that we had in the room.
SPEAKER_01 (06:12):
We could physically see people having emotional
transformations in that room.
Like we could, we, we were, wewere witness to it.
SPEAKER_00 (06:20):
Yep, there were lots of tears, there was lots of
laughter, there was a lot oflots of connection.
From the from the first day tothe second day, people were
different, and the the entireenergy in the room was
different.
SPEAKER_01 (06:31):
Holy moly, the second day, I remember the room,
everybody was there people indifferent groups and standing
around and laughing andconnecting and sharing their
experience from the day beforeand hugging?
Yeah, my mind was blown.
I remember I actually texted oneof our clients, uh Suzanne, and
and said to her, I said, holyheck, the energy in this room,
because she asked how theworkshop was going.
So the energy's off the hook inhere this morning.
(06:53):
It was, it was.
SPEAKER_00 (06:55):
I had not felt, and we've had we've had good energy
in those rooms, but I have notfelt the energy like that in
those rooms.
It was powerful, and it was itwas almost like, yeah, I don't
know, it was almost too much tohandle in some cases, and maybe
that was the issue.
Because uh at the end, when weinvited people into our
mastermind, nobody joined.
(07:17):
A lot of people expressedinterest, a lot of people took
uh information home, informationpackets, but uh, but nobody
joined.
SPEAKER_02 (07:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (07:25):
What was what was your what was your takeaway when
when that happened?
And uh because I remember seeingKara on the side of the room.
Kara, what her role in in thatsession usually at the end is to
get people registered.
And usually there's a line ofpeople at Kara or a couple
people, and she's engaging andinteractive.
And what I remember is justseeing Kara off to the side by
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herself, like kind of twiddlingher thumbs.
What was what was your takeaway?
What was where were you mentallyand emotionally, even
spiritually, when that happened?
SPEAKER_01 (07:58):
Confused.
I I I was I was confused and umyou know the good thing was
there was no I I didn't feellike any emotion like stress,
anger, anxiety or whatever, butI was just confused because it's
like holy heck, like yeah.
Just confusion, and it's stillthere.
(08:18):
It's been a couple days, and Ithink we for sure you and I we
we we go on these trips and thisisn't just we there's not a
certain lot of surf surfacelevel crap we talk about.
And we've been kind of talkingthrough this the past couple
days.
It's just like what the heck?
Like what's being asked of us?
Where are we are we being are webeing asked to go when it served
differently?
Are we being asked to uh yeah, II don't know.
(08:41):
I mean, within our mastermindright now, we're getting really
deep into the soul sciences andand digging into our our gene
keys and our human design andour natal astrology.
And I mean my women's my women'stext thread is going crazy with
everyone coming coming up withall of the things they're
learning about themselves whileutilizing those tools and
analyzing dreams for Chat GPTusing your design, and it's just
(09:04):
it's just wild.
And I I see this power of allthis information, these
teachings that we do, and soit's just confusion.
So I I don't know.
I'm still trying to figure thatout.
What about you?
SPEAKER_00 (09:16):
Same thing, and that's you know, that's kind of
why uh with with this, we we'rewe're not in this episode, we're
not looking to uh we're we'rewe're looking to help you
understand where we are in termsof the work that we're doing,
because we like to teach frommessiness, not mastery.
All right.
So if if a teacher, if for a ifa coach, if if anyone ever
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teaches from a place like theyhave it all figured out, run,
run as hard and as fast as youcan away from them because
there's nobody that has itfigured all figured out.
All right, everybody'severybody's in a uh in a place
of growth and evolution, andthings sometimes go the way you
you you dream them and sometimesthey they don't.
And in this situation, exactlyright, it was confusion.
(09:58):
It was confusion, it was, youknow, we we're when we put it
all together, the work thatwe're doing inside of the
mastermind is the most powerfulit's ever been.
The community is more connected,or the the mastermind is the
community of the mastermind ismore connected than we've ever
been.
Uh, we're doing better work thanwe ever have, more impactful
(10:19):
work, more aligned work.
We have more aligned students inthere.
The workshop, people uh peopleregistered.
It didn't take a lot, you know,to for people to register.
A lot of people were registeringvoluntarily without a lot of
work.
So it seemed like there was anatural draw and a lot, uh a
natural attraction to to theworkshop.
So it was like, okay, if people,if people join this easily for
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the workshop, there's analignment happening.
And while the mastermind isaligning, this is going to show
us, you know, the continuation.
What I expected is continuationof the alignment of the work
that we've been doing to getinto an authentic place, a
powerful place with the messagethat I have inside me, the
message Angie has inside her toshare with the world.
(11:02):
And when all of that, you know,lined up except the outcome, it
was very, very confusing.
It was very confusing becauseI'm doing nothing differently
right now than I did all thoseyears for things to happen and
grow.
SPEAKER_01 (11:19):
And in fact, I think we're, I think we're doing the
workshops are being run more inalignment with how we teach
within the mastermind now,because there was a time where
we weren't doing a a lot of the,you know, you're focusing a lot
on teaching the nervous systemand the nervous system work and
and uh understanding that youknow the somatic healing stuff.
And we didn't really do a lot ofthat in the the workshop.
(11:42):
So then people would get intothe mastermind, and then we
would introduce these theseconcepts and these tools and
things to them, and they wouldbe like, oh my gosh, what is
this?
But we are we're very, veryclear about the work we do in
these workshops.
SPEAKER_00 (11:53):
And we're doing the we're doing the a work the work
in the workshop that we do inthe mastermind, and that we
invite and our retreats and weinvite, and there's an alignment
that's happening, but for somereason that result hasn't
occurred according to ourpreference and our expectation.
And I think that for me that isthe purpose of this this podcast
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episode, is I made I just made aFacebook post this morning and
said when you in all those yearswhere I took credit for the
results at the end of theworkshop where people stood up
and people joined ourmastermind, almost like look
what I did, and when youcontinue to do the same thing,
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maybe even more powerfully,maybe even more aligned, when
when the results don't happen,if there's if you take credit
for what's happened, then ofcourse there's a natural
evolution, a natural uh, Iguess, outcome of taking the
blame for when it doesn't.
When in reality, if life doesn'twant you to move in a certain
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direction at a certain time in acertain way, it's not gonna
happen.
It's not gonna happen.
And it's constant that, and thisis the the word that that I've
been using a lot is surrender,right?
Um in our in our rich uh in ourintensive and in some of the
work that we do and all the workthat we do, we talk about a
simple, simple concept where wecan get clear about exactly what
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we want in our life and create avision for what we want.
And most people know exactlywhat they don't want, but they
don't know what they want, andthat's why most people are
living a life that where theysettle for circumstances and for
outcomes.
So we get clear about what wewant.
That that's the for me, that wasthe easy part.
(13:46):
But what this is showing is thehow and the when, and I teach
this, are none of ourresponsibility and none of our
business.
And when I have an expectation,and I set an expectation that
people are gonna stand up when Iask them to jump jump into
mastermind or invite them in,and they don't do it.
What I'm trying to do is forcean outcome of the when and the
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how.
And that's that leads todisappointment because those
things are completely out of ourcontrol.
We've been taught to hustle andgrind and make shit happen, but
in reality, that you can onlyyou can only move energy so much
in this world and you can't makedecisions for other people.
Any thoughts on that?
SPEAKER_01 (14:29):
Not really.
I mean, you say you said it verywell.
Um again, I'm just and therewasn't disappointment in me, and
there wasn't disappointment inyou or the outcomes or blaming
you for there was a littledisappointment immediately, but
then I worked through thedisappointment pretty quickly
just to get back to a state ofconfusion.
SPEAKER_00 (14:44):
And what what is this teaching us?
SPEAKER_01 (14:46):
And yeah, and yeah, and and I I you know we've both
been been you know working onreconnecting our relationship
with with God and and what youknow, asking God for guidance
and God, where where where areyou this is guidance, all right?
Where what is it?
Like, tell me.
SPEAKER_00 (15:01):
We're getting the guidance.
And I yeah, I woke up thismorning and I woke up at 5 30
and Angie was still sleeping,and and I I just laid there for
a little bit and said, Allright, all right, God, look,
it's go time, it's jam time.
Come on, tell me.
Let's go.
Let like tell me tell me what'sgoing on here, tell me where to
go, right?
And I used to I used to say thisprayer uh years ago, and I used
to say it daily.
(15:22):
Tell me, tell me who to teach,where to find them, and what to
teach them, right?
Just let me know, and and thenpeople would show up.
So, you know, surrender.
Maybe it's time to go back tothat and stop trying to force
outcomes and control outcomes.
But what I've also learned overthe last 10 years is that the
next chapter that I have plannedsometimes isn't the best chapter
(15:45):
for us.
And sometimes there's a betterchapter, a more meaningful
chapter, a more aligned chapter,a more fulfilling chapter.
And because I'm setting acourse, the uh the limitations
within my limited perspective ofthis universal dance keep us
keep us smaller than thannecessary.
So it's kind of a balancebetween creating a vision,
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right?
Because back in 2016, justwanted another job, right?
Right.
The next chapter I had plannedwas for me to get another job.
So that was from my littlelimited perspective of what I
was capable of, of what wasavailable to me, and and kind of
where the direction of theenergy of my life was going.
So sometimes it's just better toget out of the way and let life
(16:29):
bring you opportunities, right?
SPEAKER_01 (16:30):
Um and that there and therein lies the challenge.
SPEAKER_00 (16:33):
Therein lies the challenge, and that, my friends,
is surrender.
And listen, the ego does notlike surrender.
No, not at all.
The ego wants to control, theego wants to make shit happen,
the ego wants to be responsiblefor things happening, the ego
(16:55):
wants to be able to predict thefuture, the ego wants to be able
to control reality because and Isaid this one on our community
call this this morning is uhlife is not difficult.
It's lack of trust in life thatmakes life so difficult.
And it's that trust, surrender,deep surrender, spiritual
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surrender requires a deep amountof trust and faith in life, in
yourself, in God.
And when we look back at ourlives, right, 27 years together,
but I'm 53, you're 47, there's atrail of breadcrumbs that you
(17:39):
can look back with perfectclarity and a perfect
understanding.
You can look back and you cantie all the breadcrumbs in a
trail that they led to get here,but we don't trust tomorrow.
And we trust that the perfect,not always comfortable, but the
path that was laid out before usin the past that we couldn't see
(18:02):
with clarity, right?
Hindsight's 2020, but the futureis is un, you know, it's it's
it's a little blurry.
But the path that you can lookback at and see the breadcrumbs
that are tied together, if wedon't trust them going forward,
then of course we're gonna tryto overcontrol.
Of course we're gonna try to,we're gonna grasp, of course
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we're gonna try to bend reality,of course we're going to give in
to the ego and and allow the egoto try to assume a control and
authority and play God in theworld.
Yeah right?
Of course we're gonna, you know,let our ego get in the way.
SPEAKER_01 (18:37):
Yeah, we have uh, and that that reminded me of we
have we have some clients rightnow in the mastermind who are
going through some some prettysignificant challenges in their
life.
And after we got off of ourmastermind call last week, I
believe it was, I was kind oftuning into her energy and
because I could feel I couldfeel her fear as she spoke on
(18:57):
the call that day.
And so I sat down and I I justkind of just dove into it and
tapped into it.
And the message that I got, andI can't I it because it was a
message, I I won't remember thisverbatim, but it was what if
every challenge, obstacle,sudden uncertainty that God
sends your way is not a testfrom him to see how hard you can
(19:21):
push through the challenge, buthow you can trust God that the
challenge is purposeful.
Yeah, something like it was itwas, but it's it's your tri his
question to you is trust, canyou be and let God let God be
and not do?
Something like that.
But it was just maybe it justbe, maybe it's just being this
right now.
SPEAKER_02 (19:41):
For sure.
SPEAKER_01 (19:41):
A lot of our students are in that place.
I get our text strings every dayare stillness, stillness,
beingness, being this, quiet,contemplation.
SPEAKER_00 (19:49):
Human being, not human doing, yeah, right?
Give up control, surrender,surrender and allow.
SPEAKER_02 (19:56):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:56):
Instead of instead of force, right?
Deep deep levels more, deeplevels of trust and of faith and
of surrender.
And and maybe maybe that's themaybe that's the the that's our
season, trust.
Our season, trust and faith.
SPEAKER_01 (20:16):
Trust, faith, stillness.
SPEAKER_00 (20:17):
Yeah, on on the community call this morning, you
know, do there's there's trustin God, and then there's
trusting God.
SPEAKER_02 (20:26):
Right?
SPEAKER_00 (20:27):
And they're different.
Sometimes there's a gap.
And and the the the bigger thegap between that, the uh the
more fear there's gonna be andthe more grasping there's gonna
be.
SPEAKER_02 (20:35):
Yeah, I like that.
SPEAKER_00 (20:37):
So anyway, just wanted to share where we are
right now.
And again, I hope you understandthat the inner wealth, uh, the
the inner wealth podcast isn'tjust about us telling us all uh
you guys about how greateverything is and how much we're
winning in life.
We share from messiness, weshare our struggles, we share
our challenges, and we inviteother people to come in and just
(21:00):
be real with us.
Just be real with us.
And there's still people withinthe in the inner wealth
mastermind where I know thebiggest challenge that they're
going through, but they stillhaven't shared it with the rest
of the mastermind becausethere's that part of their ego
that they're protecting andthey're they're hiding and
they're they're they're keepingsecret from other people.
(21:21):
And it's not my place to go andtell the mastermind, but they're
withholding it because there's amaybe a shame or maybe some
guilt or fear or some insecuritythat if if we share our
messiness, then we'll loseeverybody in our life.
But I really do believe thatwhen you share your messiness,
you you gain people in your lifewho accept that we're all messy
(21:44):
together, we're all learningtogether, we're all perfectly
imperfect together, we're allgoing through something at some
time, and none of us have it allfigured out.
And uh one of uh one of myfavorite spiritual teachers, his
name is Dr.
Wayne Dyer, and uh he's nolonger with us.
But he said, if you when there'snothing more for you to work
(22:06):
through in this human form,you'll turn to pixie dust.
So if you if you can seesomebody in their human form, it
means they've got work to do andthey're working on something.
Don't ever think that there'ssomebody in a body, there's
somebody here in physical form,there's somebody as a human
being that's not working throughsome sense of challenge,
(22:32):
obstacle, or evolutionary path.
SPEAKER_01 (22:35):
Yeah, and I think it's important too to know to to
realize that by sharing youryour junk, your messiness, your
your the the the the trash ofyour life, that gives others
permission to do the same.
You know, you never know bysharing those things who you
impacted.
Like it makes it's val it valit's validating.
(22:56):
Like, and that's why I you knowI talk about when when Brian
Schroeder talks about his hishis when he almost hit bankrupt.
Darkness, yeah.
And it's like that him doingthat was huge in our
entrepreneurial journey.
SPEAKER_00 (23:07):
That gives people that gives people hope.
It's like, oh wow, okay.
SPEAKER_01 (23:09):
So if you're at this at this high level now and we're
just starting out, then wow,okay, so there is, it does do
this.
It doesn't just go, don't justshoot to the entrepreneurial
journey isn't one big mountainto reach the top, it's a
freaking roller coaster.
SPEAKER_00 (23:24):
The times in my speaking journey, and and Angie
was there for all of them.
The times in my speaking journeywhen I had the most people that
wanted to connect with me afterthe speaking event, it was when
I was at my most vulnerable andraw and sharing more of the
shadow shit because when weshare our shadow shit, it helps
other people feel more normal,more natural, more aligned, and
(23:49):
I guess less broken.
Yeah.
And I said a billion times overthe two-day intensive, you're
not broken and you don't need tobe fixed.
There's some just evolutionaryjourney and evolutionary stuff
that we're all working through,and uh, we're all working it
together.
SPEAKER_01 (24:04):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (24:04):
Any parting shots?
SPEAKER_01 (24:06):
I don't think so.
I think this I just I just Ilove having these conversations,
and I I actually I actuallyenjoy sharing this these these
things because you know I don'tever want anybody look at us
like we're no god all togetherbecause we don't.
SPEAKER_00 (24:18):
Nope.
All right.
Well, guys from uh from Cancun,we we just had a conversation
today, a little bit about are wetraveling too much?
And we've never had thatconversation before.
It's it's almost like we'rekinda we're kind of fatigued for
traveling.
And we we set this vision yearsand years ago, and now it's like
(24:41):
holy crap, do we need to slowdown?
SPEAKER_01 (24:43):
Okay, but to be fair, in the in the vision, we
said one beach trip, one deserttrip, one mountain trip, and
then Europe per year.
And we've been to the beach fourtimes this year.
SPEAKER_00 (24:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:56):
Baltimore, yeah, we've been uh five times because
we went to the outer banks forthe retreat.
SPEAKER_00 (25:00):
That's exactly right.
And it's almost like when we gethome and and we get into any
place of stillness, we startlike we start getting the truck
getting the vacation shakes.
We gotta get back on the road,and then when we're on the road,
we're like, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (25:16):
We'll be recording a podcast from Baltimore, Maryland
next week.
Because we we record one everytime we go someplace.
So yeah, I think after I thinkafter after Baltimore, I think
it's gonna be maybe settling forthe holidays.
unknown (25:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (25:30):
Or so we say.
SPEAKER_01 (25:32):
Well, we did we did tell Brian we were gonna come
out to Sedona.
SPEAKER_00 (25:34):
We are going out to Sedona, yep.
SPEAKER_01 (25:36):
And that'll be and that'll be next year,
technically.
So that'll be our one deserttrip for next year.
SPEAKER_00 (25:41):
So we'll stick to our we're gonna start the year
strong.
SPEAKER_01 (25:44):
We're gonna go back to our original vision.
SPEAKER_00 (25:46):
Right.
And now we we we were we werejust sitting downstairs, and I I
mentioned when when we're whenwe're in Cancun, January, we
both kind of chuckled, but uhlove our life.
It it's not always it's notalways comfortable, it's not
always, and I'm not talkingabout comfort as in physical
comfort.
I'm talking about the journey,the evolutionary journey, the
(26:07):
evolutionary path, the spiritualpath.
It's not always comfortable, butit it's beautiful.
And uh as as uh Robin Sharmaalways says, all change, and
we're in a state of change.
We are in a season of change.
All change is scary up front,messy in the middle, and
beautiful in the end.
(26:28):
And we're on the little bit ofthe scary at the beginning
because we don't know what thenext chapter is gonna be.
SPEAKER_01 (26:34):
We've been here so many times before, and we
survived and we made it through,and there's that trust in God.
SPEAKER_00 (26:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (26:41):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (26:42):
Yeah, wonderful.
Very cool.
SPEAKER_01 (26:44):
So we yeah, we have our next workshop planned for
March 6th and 7th.
SPEAKER_00 (26:47):
6th and 7th.
2026 at the same place.
Yeah.
Um, we'll I'll put the link inthe um in the in the uh show
notes.
Uh love to have anybody whowants to come in and do some
really, really powerful deepenergy work with us, some
healing work.
And uh, we're looking for whatthat next chapter holds with us,
(27:08):
our business, not us, because weknow what our next we know what
our next chapter looks like, butwe're talking about the chapter
in the business and the chapterin the our ability to impact the
world.
SPEAKER_01 (27:19):
Yep.
Thanks again to Ryu PalaceCookCon for the accommodations
this week and the the great,beautiful location, and looking
forward to the next few days ofstillness, because we have done
a lot of stillness on this trip.
SPEAKER_00 (27:29):
We have, we absolutely have.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, all right.
Well, from the road, we don'tknow maybe maybe the episode
will be from Baltimore nextweek.
Might be a little tough torecord it, maybe, but we'll uh
maybe we'll get a a recording innext week, and maybe we'll be in
Baltimore and and it will justhave two in a row and we've
never done it before.
SPEAKER_01 (27:47):
No, we haven't.
Yep.
Awesome.
SPEAKER_00 (27:49):
All right, love you guys.
See you soon.
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