April 26, 2025 • 47 mins
In this episode, Logan Freeman (aka Mr. Kansas City) recounts his transformative journey from being an NFL player to becoming a highly successful real estate investor and a devoted father. Logan discusses the importance of breaking free from past thought patterns and focusing on the future, with a strong emphasis on intention and daily routines to train the subconscious mind. He also highlights the significant influence fathers have on their families and shares how his disciplined approach to life, including prayer, fitness, and gratitude, has positively impacted his role as a father. Along the way, Logan delves into the challenges he faced, such as prioritizing golf and alcohol over family, and how he overcame them to focus on what truly matters. His story is a powerful testament to the importance of personal growth, intentionality, and leading by example.
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00:00 Understanding the Power of Thoughts
01:56 Introducing Logan Freeman: From NFL to Real Estate
04:01 Logan's Athletic Journey and Personal Growth
06:23 Transformative Life Events and Career Shifts
17:56 The Science of Success and Personal Development
23:24 Logan's Morning Routine for Success
27:08 Reflecting on Daily Routines
27:31 Intentional Living and Mindset
28:21 Fatherhood and Family Values
30:36 Leading by Example
32:51 Faith and Parenting Practices
36:35 Challenges and Personal Growth
43:35 Final Thoughts and Encouragement
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Kenny (00:00):
You have 60 to 70,000 thoughts per day.
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95% of those thoughts are onesthat came from the past are, are
actually untrue, and this iscrucial.
So if that is the case, then if95% of your, your thoughts are
from the past, we have to breakthose thoughts.
Away from the past and startliving from the future,
especially if you're living froma place of pain and regret and
(00:27):
anxiety and depression, becauseyou're only going to continue to
create that reality for yourselfin today's environment.
Well, here's the other coolthing that Napoleon Hill forgot
to really say, well, or at leastI I have, I've been researching,
is that 95% of your dailyactions are actually
subconscious and unconscious.
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Think about it.
Blinking breathing, going to thebathroom, driving your car.
How many people have driven homethe same way and forgot once
they got home?
Oh my gosh, I don't evenremember if the red, the light
was red or green.
You are operating on a habitualpattern because I.
Your body and your mind utilizerituals and habits to do that.
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So if that is the case, we'rewe're actually only operating at
5% of our capacity as humankind.
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fired from a six figure jobright After getting married, I.
Logan Freeman chose not to getanother one, but to build a
legacy instead.
So we have Logan Freeman in thehouse, everybody, from NFL
Player to real estate investor,who after his first year did 150
deals, now 1600 plus unitsacross four different states,
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and still going, since when thiswas written out.
Logan, welcome to the show.
How are you?
I am energized, thriving, andexcited to be here.
Kenny, man, it's been, anenlightening conversation.
The first time you and I was,we're, we're connected.
I've been looking forward tothis conversation, especially
with the focus being onfatherhood and figuring out what
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truly matters in life.
And I get a lot of questionsaround commercial real estate,
around cycles, and it's all goodstuff.
It really is.
It's informational and it'seducational.
But nobody really talks a lotabout the ups and downs in the
entrepreneurial rollercoasterand how that can have an impact,
whether that be positive ornegative on your personal life
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and how to manage that aspect.
Because if we have all of thismaterial success, but we don't
feel content and comfortableinside and internally and we
don't have anyone to share itwith, then what are we doing
this for?
Yeah.
No, thanks for hitting the nailon the head there, because as
excited as I get about realestate and making money or, or
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building a, a business, buildingan empire, it all really does
fall flat if the main thingsaren't the main thing.
So we're gonna be diving intothat soon, Logan.
I think where I, and, and, yeah,I, to give the audience a little
bit of context on how we met.
So I've been doing more thingson LinkedIn and in your
description of who you are, itsays, Mr.
Kansas City, and I was like, whois this guy?
Why would he claim to be Mr.
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Kansas City?
So after a few minutes ofdigging into your, your content
and the things that you'redoing, I was like, this is Mr.
Kansas City.
This is awesome.
So, thank you so much for, forjoining me today, Logan.
Yeah, of course.
all right, so let's start here.
When you, you have an NFLbackground, give us sort of the
turning point of how did thatlook and then what was the
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transition like out of that?
Can we start there?
Yeah, yeah.
I, I always identified as anathlete growing up and it's
probably because I found somesort of outlet for the amount of
energy and intentionality.
I had that could be somewhatproductive and also didn't have
the most stable, upbringingwith, with my father.
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And, and I'm sure we can, we cantalk a little bit about that,
but I found a lot of comfort anda lot of purpose as an athlete.
So I really poured myself intothat.
And, that allowed me to play atthe collegiate level.
On the football field.
And my mom always said that,even though you're, you're there
playing football, you're therefor, your academics and you need
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to make sure you focus on that.
Well, I, I really grew up, in,in college, I would say, that 18
to 22 year period is soformidable for.
Young men and thankfully I hadstructure, I had routine, I had
coaches, I had accountability.
All of these things that a lotof these personal development
books and gurus might teach you,was ingrained in me through
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athletics.
And, I.
I just really worked hard at itand was an ESPN all, all
academic, all American, and thatwas probably, out of all the
accolades I received was, wasone of the most important to me
because it was like, Hey, thisguy doesn't just work hard in
the weight room and, and on thefootball field, but also, in
the, in the classroom.
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And I've learned that I am a, alearner and through strengths
finders.
my top talents, two of them arelearner and input.
So not only do I like to learn,I like to share what I learn and
what, what else is a betterresource now than LinkedIn as a
platform to share, the differentinformation that you, you have
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and, and that's your learning.
And, I, I call myself Mr.
Kansas City for this exactreason.
Folks like you, awesome Peoplefind me because they may be
interested in Kansas City, butI'm claiming to be Mr.
Kansas City, so I better talkto, to that guy.
And maybe just as many, peopledon't reach out because of that,
because they're like, Hey, I, Idon't know what this guy's, he's
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saying about him himself, but ithas spurred some really
incredible conversations.
And so, after college.
I, I got picked up as anundrafted free agent with the
Oakland Raiders, and I was outthere for a couple weeks and
made a couple cuts and had theopportunity, to continue on
after I was cut from, from theRaiders with the 49 ERs.
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But I felt God calling me in adifferent direction.
my passion, my fire.
The, intentionality that I hadfor college football didn't
really translate over to, the,the professional field because
you truly are fighting for yourlife and to get paid and took
some of that motivation out ofit for me and, and I said, I'm a
smart guy.
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I can, I can use my braininstead of just my bra to, to
put a living, together formyself.
And I just thought there wasmore.
And so I went back to schooland.
finish my, my Master's degree,but, I, I needed, I didn't have
a scholarship anymore, so Ineeded to get a job.
And so I would drive to SweetSprings, Missouri and work all
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day making 265 cold calls duringthe day.
And then I would drive back homeand go to school from five to
nine.
And, I spent eight to 10 hoursin the library just catching up
on the schoolwork on Saturdays.
in the, in the library there in,in Warrensburg.
And one thing that really Ithink changed me was, in that
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period of time, I, I alsotransformed my body.
I was an offensive lineman, so335 pounds and, I, I figured
that one, that's probably notthe healthiest way to live.
But you know, selfishly too, Ialso know if I'm to attract the
woman that I have envisioned inmy life.
for, for me, I, I probably needto lose some weight and so in
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six months, I, I lost 120pounds.
But probably the biggertransformation that happened in
that period of time was, thiswas pre podcasts.
really the only podcasts thatwere out there were John Lee
Dumas and Lewis Howes, A Schoolof Greatness.
So.
I was actually still listeningto CDs, Tony Robbins and Zig
Ziglar and Jim Rohn and allthese, figures and these, these,
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these CDs, Napoleon Hill.
Mm-hmm.
All these folks.
And, I was like, man, I don'tknow why they're not teaching
this stuff in my master'sprogram because this is where
it's at.
you sent me over someinformation about the pod.
previously I didn't look at itbecause I was sitting here in
this chair meditating.
If you were to tell me five, 10years ago that I would be
meditating on a regular basis,grounding myself, centering
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myself, getting control of mybody, I.
I would, I would call you crazy,but I've, I've learned all these
different tools and, skill setsthat I can now apply to
different areas of my life.
And, fast forwarding a littlebit, finishing my master's
program, I, I was a new person,I remember walking in to one of
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my master's classes, one of mylast classes, and I, and walking
by some of my buddies that, theydidn't even recognize me.
I, I was a hundred poundslighter and, and they were like,
wait, Logan, holy cow.
I wasn't on social media oranything like that, so.
Mm-hmm.
It was like six months had goneby and I had dropped a person,
and, and, and then that wasreally eyeopening for, for me.
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But something else really bigkind of happened to this.
I graduated, I had a new job,not making cold calls in Sweet
Springs, Missouri anymore.
I had a good job lined up.
my father had battled drugs andalcohol addiction his whole
life.
one, one bedroom house, 13brothers and sisters on a
tobacco farm from NorthCarolina, and I can only imagine
how difficult his upbringingwas, right?
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Like we never really got to talkabout that that much.
Well, he had some complicationswith his health and in 35 days
my dad passed away.
And so you can see, I'm 24 yearsold.
I'm no longer an athlete.
I've lost 110, 115 pounds, and Ilose my, my father all in a
matter of six months.
And Wow.
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Well that puts some, perspectiveinto your, into your life.
And, and I had some mentors inmy life that really helped me
say Hey, this is a turning pointin your life.
this is a decision time for you.
So you, you have the choice toeither.
Make the same decisions thatyour father did and or other
folks, and, and go down oneround or you can start to make
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better decisions.
And, that's when I realizedthat, your results in your life
are really the cumulativeeffects of the decisions and the
actions that you take.
And, I, I got started after,burying my father.
I got started as, as a, as afranchise consultant with Jimmy
John's and.
I was shipped off to Champaign,Illinois and then Ann Arbor,
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Michigan, and then planted backhere in Kansas City about 10
years ago.
And I was there for about a yearand hit a glass ceiling and
said, Hey, I need to be paidfor, for my performance.
And so, I left that company andwent to a startup company and in
sales, and then two and a halfyears later from, from working
there.
I had been doing some realestate just on the side, with,
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with myself and I, I had taken adifferent job and I, I was
fired, I was fired in 2017.
this guy that has redefinedhimself and, and has, has read
all of these books and, andFranklin Covey sales certified
and, and, and boom, one day.
You're fired.
And so another decision pointand turning point in my life
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and, and that's when I decidedno longer am I going to, work
for anyone else, I need to beable to go create my financial
and, and future.
and, and that's when I fellinto, some real estate.
So that's my journey, Kenny, on,on how I got to where I'm at
now.
Geezes, dude, that's awesome.
I.
I, I, I know we didn't gothrough all that the first time
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we talked, so I am totallyfascinated by the, identity
shifts.
I think that's probably one ofthe biggest things I, I heard
was, you mentioned the dad, you,you mentioned dad earlier, and
maybe a, a strained relationshipthere.
But, there's that motivation ofperforming, results.
obviously the sports thing is I.
Very much a results type ofthing.
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you'd rather make the cut or youdon't.
That's right.
And you know how crushing thatcould be to.
To go through something thatwould be a shift there.
But, I definitely applaud theresiliency, man.
You, yeah.
You mentioned the strengthfinders of, learner and input.
I think that is an awesomecombination.
And you even mentioned before werecorded, like you have
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something going on tonight.
I.
That's like a, a webinar with 60plus attendees already, figured
out.
Yeah.
So you are continuing, you haveevolved for sure since Mr.
NFL player.
Yeah.
Would you say you're like, justnot even the same?
I.
Like completely different fromthat, from that time.
Well, I, I've, I've beenlistening to some things,
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recently here by Ed Millet, whoI really, enjoy listening to.
He, he really comes from nothingand has created this, this life
for himself and, and truly is abeliever.
And, and he's also, I.
Out there spreading the message.
And, and he, he talks about yourcells in your body.
They're always regenerating,they're always changing.
And when you get to the actual,biomechanics of who you are as
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an individual, you're actuallynot the same person that you
were a year ago.
but your brain and your beliefsand your thoughts and those
mental models that you hold, ifthey will, it's a computer
program that if you do notupgrade, it will stay.
The same, but truly at amolecular level, you are
changing on a regular basis.
So, I, I wanna embrace that andI wanna embrace the, the
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God-given talents and abilitiesthat I've been blessed with, and
ensure that I'm not, putting thelamp shade underneath the bushel
basket, right.
And, and making sure that I'mshining my light as, as bright
as I possibly can.
So there's, I, I think there'sprobably been three to four
different evolutions and I'm,I'm likely going through one.
Right now of becoming a betterfather, a, a better Christian
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man, better husband, betterbusiness person.
And I think the moment that alot of people stop learning is
the moment they get out ofschool.
I, I just, I began learning whenI got outta school.
I've read more books now anddone more studying now than I
ever did in my MBA program, myundergrad, any other things
because it's interesting to me,right?
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And I believe truly I.
That, true success in this lifeis, is not how many commas in
the bank account.
It's not how many assets youhave under management.
It's not how many, doors thatyou have on the, on the
multifamily side.
It truly is.
your, your infa your influenceand your impact that you have
had on other folks.
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But, but also, being able torecognize that who you are today
doesn't mean that you have tostay the same person, I think is
incredibly, important.
And so, I think success truly isin, in life.
It, the whole goal of this isgrowth.
And is growth physically, it'sgrowth mentally, it's growth
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spiritually.
And my other two top talents areachiever and discipline.
So you put learner and inputnext to achiever and discipline.
And then individualization is myfifth one, which just means I'm,
I grew up with three womenaround me and I have a high
emotional, quotient, a highemotional intelligence.
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And thank, thankfully I canutilize that in, in a lot of
different ways, which is why I,I interact with people on a, on
a regular basis.
Right?
And so, you put that achieverand discipline together, it.
And I wanna make sure thatpeople understand that if you
take that StrengthsFinders testjust because you, you were given
a strength.
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That's really a talent.
Those are the talents that youwere given.
If cultivated can become yourstrengths, but each one of those
strengths, let's take ourachiever for, for example, they
have balconies.
Meaning I can achieve something.
But they also have basementsthat say, I'm only going to
focus on this one thing andeverything else is going to fall
by the wayside.
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Well, that you could see howthat could completely,
deteriorate somebody.
If all you're doing is focusingon money and, or all you're
doing, where's your health,right?
So you're living in the basementof that strength, which is
really just a talent.
So you have to be rec, you haveto recognize that, early on.
For myself, just because I hadlearner and input didn't mean
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everybody I talked to wanted tolearn or be inputted on.
Right.
And so, those are things thatyou have to keep in mind and,
and I'm continuing to learn andgrow and evolve on a regular
basis.
and, and, and making sure that,that I I understand that right.
Yeah.
the growth mentality dictatestime, like, how am I growing
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over the, I've worked on thesame thing for a year or Hey, I
have been reading book afterbook after book.
Like there's a, there's a timeelement to growth and I think we
all have different clocks oflike urgency, maybe
availability, margin.
and I, I sense the.
The love for learning from you.
and it'll, and, but you're notjust learning to keep it inside.
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You're learning to, like youmentioned, input and achieve.
Yeah.
you have disciplines.
So I think that is a lesson forus all on, are we stuck
learning?
Are we just stopped?
Have we stopped learning?
I think I judge my learning fromhow, how hard it is for me to
listen to a book or read a book.
I'm just like, nah, I'm notreally in the mood for that, or.
I don't know, whatever, whateverthat resistance is usually is
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the indicator for me of I needto, I need to break this.
This is bad.
Sure.
Yeah.
well, I think that learning isalso something that, can be
addictive.
I.
But you have to learn it at adeep level.
So I adopted the Feinmantechnique, probably six or seven
years ago.
Instead of reading a hundredbooks per year, 50 books per
year, whatever, you know that,that one article that said CEOs
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read 50 books a year orwhatever, might've been the most
damaging thing for the personaldevelopment space because.
If you cannot teach it to afifth grader, you do not know
the information at a deep enoughlevel.
So no longer do I feel nec thenecessity to finish a book.
I, I, I get one, a aspect out ofit.
And typically you'll get acouple good ideas out of a book
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and the rest is filler.
Yeah.
Maybe the stories help youremember it, but I'm looking for
something new, something that'sgoing to stick with me, and
then.
I need to figure out how can Ilearn how to teach this to a
fifth grader And I need to knowit at that deep level.
Right?
And so that's been mymethodology recently is going
much deeper than focusing ongoing so wide, right.
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And just achieving and readinganother book.
And one thing that's beenblowing my mind here recently is
the Actual Science of Successand Napoleon Hill's book, think
and Grow Rich has been read.
by more, more.
Than any other personaldevelopment book by, by a
tenfold measure.
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Okay, so hundreds of millions ofpeople have read this book.
Well, are there one hundreds ofmillions of grow rich, rich
people in the world?
no, there's not.
Look at the, look at thenumbers.
Now.
Maybe they are rich in adifferent way, but there's a
reason that people read thatbook and then they just went on
the shelf and they for forgotabout it.
Right?
Well, the biggest thing that.
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The secret that Napoleon Hillgives in this book is that
thoughts are things andeverything starts with a
thought, but then he stoppedthere.
You have to take this further.
You have 60 to 70,000 thoughtsper day.
95% of those thoughts are onesthat came from the past are, are
actually untrue, and this iscrucial.
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So if that is the case, then if95% of your, your thoughts are
from the past, we have to breakthose thoughts.
Away from the past and startliving from the future,
especially if you're living froma place of pain and regret and
anxiety and depression, becauseyou're only going to continue to
create that reality for yourselfin today's environment.
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Well, here's the other coolthing that Napoleon Hill forgot
to really say, well, or at leastI I have, I've been researching,
is that 95% of your dailyactions are actually
subconscious and unconscious.
Think about it.
Blinking breathing, going to thebathroom, driving your car.
How many people have driven homethe same way and forgot once
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they got home?
Oh my gosh, I don't evenremember if the red, the light
was red or green.
You are operating on a habitualpattern because I.
Your body and your mind utilizerituals and habits to do that.
So if that is the case, we'rewe're actually only operating at
5% of our capacity as humankind.
So what do we do?
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Well, we have to go back in themornings and we have to be able
to train our subconsciousbecause if we can train this 95%
of the actions and the thoughtsand the feelings that we're
having early on in the morning.
Now you're gonna be operatingfrom a place, from abundance of
generosity.
Mm-hmm.
Of love, if that's what you'refeeding yourself early on.
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And this takes time to get to.
So the idea being 60, 70,000thoughts per day, 90% of them in
the past 95% of your actions.
Subconscious.
We need to start dictating whatour subconscious is feeling,
thinking, and doing on a regularbasis.
And that is where the, the movieThe Secret, tried to bring this
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law of attraction thing to themainstream media, but where it
fell short was, I'm gonna sit ina room, I'm gonna close my eyes
and I'm gonna manifest.
A million dollars.
I'm gonna manifest a six pack.
I'm gonna manifest the personthat I love.
No, you have to take action, butyou have to train your
subconscious to be doing thingson your behalf that are going to
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attract the right things in yourlife.
And that is the true science ofsuccess.
And so John Mitchell wrote thisbook recently.
Called The Missing Secret, whichhe studied Napoleon Hill's book.
And this is, this is straightfrom, from his book, and I know
John and I've talked to him, andthank you for putting this out.
But it's in my work bag righthere.
It's probably the only book I'mgonna read this year because
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every chapter.
I go to my remarkable, and thenI write down my main takeaways.
And then every single day I haveaffirmations that I'm writing
down because writingcrystallizes thought.
And so I'm trying to get to theroot, the, the science of
success because most newpersonal development stuff is
just the same from Bob Proctor,Napoleon Hill, Dale Carnegie.
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they, these guys had it figuredout and now people are just
repackaging it.
Well, I'm just going back to thesource, figuring out.
How to implement that into mydaily routine and feeling
comfortable with that.
So it's been a long journey justfrom a, a learning standpoint
and input as well from going sowide and now going a mile deep
instead of a mile wide.
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The habits that you're talkingabout, writing things down,
morning routines, retraining,give us, give us, if you don't
mind, what's your morningroutine look like right now?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I get this question a lot.
I'm an early riser.
Have been for a long time, soI'm up at 5:00 AM.
The first thing I'm doing isthanking God for another
morning, and starting from aplace from gratitude before my
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my feet hit the bed or hit thefloor.
I'm, I'm starting from a placeof gratitude, getting dressed
for my morning workout, goingand making my wife coffee, and
programming that.
I don't like coffee, but Iprogram her coffee to be done at
6:00 AM every single day.
Dude, we are brothers in that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're straight up brothers.
Thank you for that.
And then.
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Then I hit the, I hit the, theprayer.
So I'm going through the gospelfor the day.
What, what, what is God tryingto tell me today Instead of
starting from a place, I'm gonnamake this happen.
I'm gonna achieve this, I'mgoing to do that.
It is, I.
Opening up my heart, my mind, mysoul to say, God, what is it
that you want me to accomplishtoday?
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So that's number one.
Number two is this methodology,this 12 minute methodology from
the book, the Missing Secret,which I have gone through and
written this whole thing out,that John has researched all of
the, the, the science behind.
I went through the step-by-stepprocess, so I have that.
in a Google document, and I havethat read to me every single
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morning.
So I'm, so I'm training thesubconscious brain, right?
Okay.
Then it's, get the shoes on.
Head down to the workout roomand get the LinkedIn post done
for the day.
So the LinkedIn post is done.
I'm warming up.
I hit the workout for, for aboutan hour.
kids are starting to wake up.
I jump in the sauna, for 10minutes, re recalibrate, and
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then I'm upstairs with theprotein shake, hitting the
shower, grabbing the kids, goingto school, and starting the day
off, drop the kids off atschool, and then I go directly
from there to church everysingle day.
So I go from dropping the kidsoff to either adoration or
actual service every singlemorning, and that's when I have
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my remarkable tablet out and Igo through, a pretty strict
routine.
I'm reviewing the previous day,what went well, I.
What didn't go well?
Okay, I'm thinking through, whatdid I listen to from the gospel
just now from church or thismorning, and I'm writing that
down.
So what was the message?
Because it's really easy toforget reading any type of
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message early on.
Three hours later, you canforget what you read.
So I'm rehashing that I'm goingthrough my top five meaningful
conversations that I'm havingthrough that throughout the day.
If I don't have five, then Iknow I need to make some calls
to get to my five.
Okay.
And then Andy Frisella's,powerless methodology.
I don't do to-do lists.
I do powerless.
What are the five things that ifI accomplish today are going to
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make everything else easier orunnecessary?
I don't always have five.
Sometimes there's two, but the,the two top things, the three
top things that I'm trying toget done.
Are there on my, on myRemarkable.
And now I just started writingdown all these different
affirmations as well.
So that's the morning routine,from 5:00 AM to 9:00 AM There
you go.
There's, and then from nine tofive it is, it is busting out
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the work.
It's meetings.
Mm-hmm.
Conversations, deals, and then Iturn off and, and then then,
become husband father from fiveto nine.
And then nine o'clock typicallyis We're tired and we're going
to bed most likely.
but we'll watch a little bit oftv.
I'll do what, St.
Ignatius, talks about, which iscalled the, the examine of
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conscious.
So, hey, where did I show up asthe best version of myself
today?
Where did I fail?
Do I need to apologize foranything?
What could have I done better?
Right?
And then I go through a littlebit of gratitude before bed, try
to get some positive mentalitygoing before I go to sleep.
And then.
TV's off and bedtime is there,and I fall asleep in about five
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or 10 minutes.
Wow.
That was, that was not just yourmorning routine.
That was your day.
There's my day.
Yep.
Dude, I gotta say, you may bethe most intentional person I've
had on this show at this point.
No, I I don't mean to puff youup.
I'm just saying you have thoughtabout this.
Yes.
How old are you, Logan?
30.
I just turned 35 last month.
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Okay.
So, man, thank you so much forsharing that, dude.
And, I, I don't even wanna say.
Wow.
Like we were joking, like wewere gonna have a meaningful
conversation before we hitrecord.
And then maybe a few years fromnow we might be like, what were
we thinking?
But dude, I see you as someonewho's super intentional in what
you do, how you spend your time.
and let me pivot there'cause I,part of my thoughts before
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recording here where we're gonnatalk about Kansas City, we're
gonna talk about real estate andSure.
Kinda the nuts and bolts.
I don't.
I don't really see that as, as ahigh, high, meaningful
conversation based on what we'vetalked about thus far.
So let me go into, I'd say the,the life of a dad.
Yeah.
Because you've, you've, you'vebeen hyper intentional about
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mindset.
How to, showing up for yourselfthe best version.
I love that you said, who do Iapologize for?
Just like very faith focused aswell.
give us, let's just shift tothe, the, the fatherhood side of
life.
How many kids do you have?
What are, what are, what's yourcurrent status with Dad Hood?
I have a 6-year-old girl,Isabella.
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I have a four and a half yearold son, Ezra, and I have about
an 18 month old daughterMagnolia.
And we are hoping that God willbless us with more children,
when the time is is right and,and, that happens.
But, so I have three kids, sixand under, and I think that.
Two years ago was, was reallywhen I started to realize my, my
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oldest daughter is now startingto see me and emulate me and
talk like me.
And, this really hit home when,one of our babysitters, was over
for the evening.
And she was a teacher from theschool or the daycare that they
were at at the time.
And she just came, pulled measide and, in our home is is
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crucifixes and, and bibles and,and, statues and things.
So you, it's, it's, it's, it'sgonna be there, right?
it's all over my office here aswell.
But she, so she was a, she's aChristian, Christian girl who,
who is now our full-time housemanager, by the way.
Okay.
So she manages three of our,our, our children, picks'em up
from school.
And anyways, she pulled me asideand said, Hey, I just want you
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to know I babysit a lot for alot of the parents.
I.
And, this was probably two orthree years ago and she said, I
have never had a, a student,Isabella would've been three or
four at the time, trying to dosomething in the class and
somebody else says, Hey, it'sokay if you can't do that.
And Isabella stopped Starklooked at her and said,
Freeman's, don't say can't.
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Freeman's don't say can't.
And she repeated it and just,she went back to what she was
doing.
And when I heard that story, Iwas like, holy cow.
what I do, what I say on aregular basis is starting to
stick.
And so that's when I got reallyserious.
I might've been somewhat seriousabout, my, my routine and what
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I'm doing and saying, but now.
Every single morning, my son, mydaughter, come down to the
workout room'cause they knowwhere daddy's gonna be.
maybe they come down a littleearlier.
They see me on the couchpraying, some days I may be on
my knees, just opening up myarms and What are you doing,
daddy?
Well, come here sweetheart.
Let me.
Today in adoration.
I have picture with my son.
I have no idea when they'recoming to adoration.
My kids go to Catholic school,but I was there and guess who
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tapped me on the shoulder?
I look across and it's my fourand a half year old son.
I'm the, I guarantee you, I'mthe only parent that's in
adoration almost every timetheir, their parent comes, well,
well, every time there's allschool mass, I'm in the back
singing loud.
he will raise you up on eagleswings, and now I'm known as the
guy.
Who stands in the back and singsreally loud and all the kids are
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staring at me, right?
And so now, now my daughtercomes down and she's daddy, I
need to get my pull-ups in.
So I don't let my 6-year-olddaughter just do pull-ups by
herself.
So don't get, don't get on onsome, I'm not training my
children to be physicalspecimens at this point point.
You're in a judge tree zone,brother.
Okay?
Yeah, true Judge Tree.
And, and I hold her feet andshe's fine, but she comes down
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and she's daddy, can I get my10?
Pull pullups in?
And then when 10 comes around, Ihave a big sign in my workout
room that says, go one more.
one more rep.
Ed Millet.
Go one more.
And she never stops at number10.
And so now my son is doing it.
Now he's doing pushups, right?
Just because they see that andthey emulate that.
And so I think I got superserious and intentional about
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this when I started to see thechildren.
Pick things up.
Right?
And I think that was like holycow eye-opening experiment and,
and mind mindset shift to me tosay I might not be the best
parent.
I know I'm not the best parent.
I, I fail on a regular basis,but the least I can do is lead
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by my actions and I'm gonna leadmyself.
First, and I'm gonna be led byGod and the Holy Spirit, and
then I'm gonna lead myself and,and then, hopefully by my
actions, not just by my words, Ican lead the most important
people that are close to me.
So anyways, man, that's, that'sjust a little bit of a, an
excerpt there that, really hithome for me a couple years ago.
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it's great.
That's a great intentionality,leading by example.
That's a theme I continue to, topreach and understand.
you've mentioned that like we'realways changing and my advice to
parents that you've pretty muchsummed up is, we have these
ideas of how to have these likeimportant talks.
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If you are just, if you are,like you said, leading yourself
first.
Your kids are watching you.
Yeah.
that's the best way to parent.
Just let them see you do things.
And we don't all have thatcapability of, our kids are with
us 24 7, obviously.
Right?
You're, you're taking'em toschool.
They have things that they'redoing there.
you're hearing stories aboutthat.
But those, those lessons arecaught.
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They're not taught.
So really huge.
Thank you for the encouragementon, like the praying, the, the,
the workout, like the health andlike my even mindset, like Yeah,
Freeman's don't say, can't,don't say, is that written down
somewhere in your house or isthat something no, it's just
written in their, in theirmethodologies.
We do have.
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the Freeman 10 Commandments,posted up in our, in our house,
and we go through those as afamily on a regular basis.
But, I wanted my children toknow how to pray and to, start
their days that way.
Right.
And, as Catholics, we have allthese different prayers that we
say, well, my children, canrecite almost all of them now,
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and, and, and actually.
they, they can actually be apart of church because they know
these saints, but, or theseprayers.
But one of the things that I'vedone, and I'll put this up by
the screen, you guys can seethis is the full serenity
prayer, right?
Everybody knows, God grant methe serenity to accept the
things I cannot change, thecourage to change the things
that I can and the wisdom toknow the difference, but.
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Reinhold er actually has a lotmore lines after that, and the
prayer is much longer, thanthat.
And, and so every time we get inthe car, I have these prayer
cards for the new prayers thatwe're trying to learn.
And before we can leave orbefore we can talk about it, the
children have to recite thoseprayers.
And, I, I'm proud to say theyknow at least 10 different
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prayers now, and we do it everysingle day.
And if I forget.
Ezra, my four and a half yearold son will say, Hey daddy, we
forgot to say our prayers.
And he'll start in the name ofthe father, the son of the Holy
Spirit.
Take Lord, all my liberty, allmy memory, my understanding, my
whole will.
it's unbelievable.
And then when people ride withus, they have not heard that
before.
You hear this four and a halfyear old kid.
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Going through a two to threeminute prayer from memory.
It's just fascinating.
Right?
And so I think that my, mymentality is we're likely all as
parents to screw our kids up insome way, but I'm gonna do the
best job to screw them up in thebest way that I know possible,
which might be routine.
And it's, and it's at leastfaith oriented, it's fitness
oriented, and it's, it's,focused on the family, right?
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So, I, I thought that was prettyinteresting.
One of my mentors said, Hey, Iknow you're doing all these.
Things, but just know, he's gotolder children.
He goes, just know that you cantry your best.
But, we're not perfect andwe're, we're definitely
infallible.
sorry, we're fallible people andwe are, going to screw them up
in some way, but just try to doyour best and you're, you're
doing the right thing.
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So I try to take a lot of those.
Those pieces of, fatherhoodwisdom from other individuals
who are, maybe have olderchildren.
And I'm always asking questionson, what did you do here?
And in this scenario, and, allthese different components.
And, and that's again, probablythe learner and the input that
I'm, I've got as a, as a talent.
But I love asking thosequestions because, you, you can
see folks that have 5, 6, 7 kidsand running businesses and
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you're like, wow.
like they're.
They're operating at a highlevel.
And then when you peel the onionback, you realize, hey man,
their life is just as messy andhard.
Yes.
And, and, and tough and, and,and just as anybody else's.
Right?
And, and that's, that's acomforting thing.
I think that's a comfortingthing.
Okay.
Tough question.
I probably have two morequestions for you.
the audience here.
We're dads.
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No one's perfect.
And this isn't a podcast to belike, Hey, this is how you
become a perfect dad.
Right?
we're striving for, for that.
But there's one person thatlived, perfectly in this life.
Yeah.
And his name is Jesus.
So, and there's not gonna beanother one.
he's, he is the one.
So if we can be like him, we'redoing okay.
but gimme something that you've.
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You've experienced maybe in thelast year of a failure or a, an
area that God was showing youthat you're obviously not the
only, like I think, I feel likethe devil wants to say, Hey,
this is a Logan problem.
You're the only one that goesthrough this.
I can't believe you.
Let this happen again.
Whatever.
But we know as.
Dads we're all struggling.
it's, it's a constant struggle.
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Yeah.
gimme something that, ouraudience can relate with you on,
that this was a hard thing thatI had to go through personally.
And you're rather still in it,or, you've seen some victories
from this specific thing.
Yeah.
Well I think that, for me it wasgetting really real and raw
with, my, so-called routinesand, and you can.
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You can easily fall intospecific routines as a way to
make yourself feel better andfeel like you are in control.
Okay?
So, number one would be, hey, Ineed to think about all of the
things that are not adding,value to my life.
Right.
But I turn towards in difficultcircumstances, so for me that is
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staying active, staying busy.
So I found myself, beingobsessed with learning how to
play golf and become a singledigit handicap and, and doing
all these things and going tothe range and all this stuff.
And I realized like.
I, I deserve to do this, right?
I've got some free time.
I worked hard to do this.
And, that started to really be adetriment to, my marriage
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because, she, my wife would say,look, I, I, I feel like you are
prioritizing, golf and playingthere when you could be spending
time with us or with me.
And I said, man, that's, atfirst I was like, no way.
I'm doing it during times thataren't gonna take away from us.
And I, I realized, no, I am,and, and I basically have gone
cold Turkey for, with golf.
I haven't swung a club in, six,seven months.
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Right.
And, and I'm, and here's thecool part is I don't even long
for that anymore.
So when you rip those vicesaway, the other one being
alcohol.
I, I very rarely drink alcoholnow and I love making cocktails.
I'm a great bartender and allthese different things.
I make cocktails for people allthe time when they come over.
Well, I have a non-alcoholicspirit that I'll make the same
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cocktail with, but I'll just notdrink.
Right.
Why?
Well, I don't sleep very well.
I'm a little bit grouchy when Iwake up the next day and I'm a
little less motivated to be thebest version of myself.
And so, but I didn't realize, Ididn't think it was a problem.
Same thing with golf, right?
And, and, but I started torealize that those things are
not adding true value to mylife.
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And so, those are things that Ihad to say.
become really, real with, to saywhat am I spending my time on?
What am I turning towards in,in, in life when things get
hard?
And instead of doing that, howdo I surrender that, to God and
actually, bring that to him andsay, Hey, I'm struggling with
this right now.
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And just stay there and feelthat emotion and feel that.
That pain.
And, Kenny, I can, I can tellyou that going through that,
having a dispositional change inmy personality of, I don't even
care to even go pick up the golfclubs and try to go hit a little
white ball around a beautifulcourse anymore to the point
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where it's like, Hey, should Istill be at this country club
because I'm never using it,right?
Mm-hmm.
that is a really cool growthopportunity and I never thought
that would come because.
I loved doing it so much, butwhen, when, when the love of
what you're doing, takes awayfrom what you truly should be
prioritizing, I think that is amessage of, of Jesus.
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And as, as I'm going through thechosen, I don't know why it took
me so long to watch this show.
I'm starting to see.
That be stripped away.
Take Matthew for example.
He's a tax collector.
He bought his first house whenhe was 13 years old.
Right.
He had more money than hisparents and his three uncles
combined, right?
But his, he, his family disownedhim because of what he was
doing.
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And he sold himself out to thedevil a little bit to go make
money.
But he didn't think he was doingthat.
He was thinking he was doingsomething good because he's
using his God-given, talent.
So, I'd say.
Reevaluating priorities, on aregular basis has been, and,
and, and changing the beliefsystems is, is really what it
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is, is like something I heldtrue to earlier on in my life is
no longer true.
This is a new truth.
Accepting that and movingforward as, as that, as the new,
the new truth is reallydifficult to do, and that's why
people say change is the onlyconstant, but it's the hardest
thing.
That's always constantlychanging, right?
And, and it's very hard toaccept unless you are willing to
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be humble enough to try tobecome a better version of
yourself.
And so, I don't know if thatanswered your question, but
those are two examples that Iwould say I.
were real challenges for me.
I know that sounds silly, but Iknow a lot of people have, have
chains and I, I know my, my, mylineage, my father, and, and I,
I know my personality beingobsessed.
I, I, I was, diagnosed withobsessive compulsive disorder as
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a young boy.
I was on Ritalin until one day Isaid, I cannot do this anymore.
and I, I remember, never takingthat, that pill again and
saying, mom, I gotta, I gotta,you gotta find some other way
for me to get.
Get past this.
And, and she did.
And it was incredible.
But, those two things, in mylife were really difficult,
really big challenges for me tochange my, my belief systems on.
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Thank you for sharing that.
They're not silly things.
I think we all have our ownsilly things that we could say,
don't only want anyone to knowabout this or I, I do feel right
on this and, it's not really abig deal.
and I want to give accolades toyour wife.
we talk about family fatherhoodon the show.
guys, we don't have a familywithout our wives, so Yeah.
And, I was recently thinkingabout how my wife calls me out
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on stuff.
Yes.
And part of me is man, sheshould respect me on this.
doesn't she know how, how hard Iwork?
And, people don't talk to melike this, like this.
And, and she she wasn't even,she wasn't even like doing
anything wrong, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
She like, just straight up waslike, do you really think this
is the best thing, blah, blah,blah.
And.
I don't have anyone else in mylife that does that like she
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does and, and who knows me likeshe does.
So, that, that knee jerkresponse of, of, this is, I'm
not taking time away from you.
And, and I feel you and, and Ilove that you at least.
I tried to understand what shewas saying enough to, to come to
that realization of you knowwhat, I am doing this.
Yes.
And, and I would like to thinkthat your relationship is, has
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grown that much more from you,not golfing.
Which would you admit was moreimportant than golfing?
100%.
I hear you man.
I love that.
Logan, we're outta time buddy.
right.
I, I really appreciate all theinsights.
This has been, I feel like a, atime for me to just sit down and
enjoy, learn, learn from yourlife.
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Yeah.
we're gonna try to get you backon the show to talk more about
Kansas City stuff, but we can,if not, this has been hugely
valuable for me.
and I know my audience give us afinal, walkout of.
Hey, if we want to get on theLogan, train of what, what he's
up to, where he's spending timemm-hmm.
Where he's doing stuff, directmy audience where to go and
then, I not to be too heavy, butif you have a final closeout of
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just, application of, to dadstoday of something that they
could work on.
Well, I'm most active onLinkedIn, so Logan Freeman just
search Mr.
Kansas City and I will pop upand I post over there on a
regular basis.
Six days outta the week istypically.
Professional, and then, I'vetaken a little flack for this
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and, and lost some, somefollowers and things like that.
But every Sunday I'm, I'm gonnapost a reflection about, what
I'm learning in the gospel.
And I, and I'm okay with losingsome, some followers because of
that, because I have a platformnow and I'm gonna use it to my
best, ability.
if I had any closing remarks, I,I would say this You as a father
have more influence on yourfamily than you believe.
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And then did you think?
And it is truly aresponsibility.
It is not a, a gi it's, it is agift, but it isn't just given to
you freely.
It is a responsibility.
So you need to be respons able,to be able to dictate that.
And it all starts with yourthoughts and your belief.
System.
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And so the moment that you canrealize that we are on a tiny
planet in a massive, atmosphere,or, I don't even know the right
words, right, galaxies orwhatever, were like little ants
walking around here.
And, you, your, what you do on,on a regular basis may not seem
that important to the grandscheme of things.
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Everything starts at home.
And if you can have an influenceon the people that are closest
to you, there's a butterflyeffect and there's a ripple
effect, which that will continueto move on, throughout the, the
ethos.
And so I think that for me, itreally is about understanding.
I'm not gonna have maybe theinfluence or impact that.
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certain individuals m might butI can have an influence and
impact on the people that God isblessed in my life.
And let's start there and lethim work through me.
And, we have this machoism,effect as, as men.
And don't be afraid.
To talk about your emotions and,and how you're feeling and if
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you need to get someoneobjectively coaching you through
that, it was one of the most, isone of the most beneficial
things that, that you can do.
And I, I do that on a, on aregular basis, but understanding
the emotions that go through.
Your brain are extremelyimportant to be able to,
influence your family in theright way.
So don't, don't think thattalking about emotions is like
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this unmanly thing.
It's actually the most manlything that you can do is take
responsibility of your ownemotions and your own thoughts.
Logan Freeman, thank you so muchMr.
Kansas City.
good luck tonight on the, thewebinar, and thank you so much
for your time today with myinvested fathers to my invested
fathers out there.
Continue to invest wisely.
I'm, I'm here for you.
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reach out anytime, to me orLogan, if there's things that we
can do to help you.
And thank you for taking thetime to listen to this episode.
You have 60 to 70,000 thoughts per day.
(00:03):
95% of those thoughts are onesthat came from the past are, are
actually untrue, and this iscrucial.
So if that is the case, then if95% of your, your thoughts are
from the past, we have to breakthose thoughts.
Away from the past and startliving from the future,
especially if you're living froma place of pain and regret and
(00:27):
anxiety and depression, becauseyou're only going to continue to
create that reality for yourselfin today's environment.
Well, here's the other coolthing that Napoleon Hill forgot
to really say, well, or at leastI I have, I've been researching,
is that 95% of your dailyactions are actually
subconscious and unconscious.
(00:47):
Think about it.
Blinking breathing, going to thebathroom, driving your car.
How many people have driven homethe same way and forgot once
they got home?
Oh my gosh, I don't evenremember if the red, the light
was red or green.
You are operating on a habitualpattern because I.
Your body and your mind utilizerituals and habits to do that.
(01:10):
So if that is the case, we'rewe're actually only operating at
5% of our capacity as humankind.
(01:56):
fired from a six figure jobright After getting married, I.
Logan Freeman chose not to getanother one, but to build a
legacy instead.
So we have Logan Freeman in thehouse, everybody, from NFL
Player to real estate investor,who after his first year did 150
deals, now 1600 plus unitsacross four different states,
(02:18):
and still going, since when thiswas written out.
Logan, welcome to the show.
How are you?
I am energized, thriving, andexcited to be here.
Kenny, man, it's been, anenlightening conversation.
The first time you and I was,we're, we're connected.
I've been looking forward tothis conversation, especially
with the focus being onfatherhood and figuring out what
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truly matters in life.
And I get a lot of questionsaround commercial real estate,
around cycles, and it's all goodstuff.
It really is.
It's informational and it'seducational.
But nobody really talks a lotabout the ups and downs in the
entrepreneurial rollercoasterand how that can have an impact,
whether that be positive ornegative on your personal life
(03:01):
and how to manage that aspect.
Because if we have all of thismaterial success, but we don't
feel content and comfortableinside and internally and we
don't have anyone to share itwith, then what are we doing
this for?
Yeah.
No, thanks for hitting the nailon the head there, because as
excited as I get about realestate and making money or, or
(03:26):
building a, a business, buildingan empire, it all really does
fall flat if the main thingsaren't the main thing.
So we're gonna be diving intothat soon, Logan.
I think where I, and, and, yeah,I, to give the audience a little
bit of context on how we met.
So I've been doing more thingson LinkedIn and in your
description of who you are, itsays, Mr.
Kansas City, and I was like, whois this guy?
Why would he claim to be Mr.
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Kansas City?
So after a few minutes ofdigging into your, your content
and the things that you'redoing, I was like, this is Mr.
Kansas City.
This is awesome.
So, thank you so much for, forjoining me today, Logan.
Yeah, of course.
all right, so let's start here.
When you, you have an NFLbackground, give us sort of the
turning point of how did thatlook and then what was the
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transition like out of that?
Can we start there?
Yeah, yeah.
I, I always identified as anathlete growing up and it's
probably because I found somesort of outlet for the amount of
energy and intentionality.
I had that could be somewhatproductive and also didn't have
the most stable, upbringingwith, with my father.
(04:29):
And, and I'm sure we can, we cantalk a little bit about that,
but I found a lot of comfort anda lot of purpose as an athlete.
So I really poured myself intothat.
And, that allowed me to play atthe collegiate level.
On the football field.
And my mom always said that,even though you're, you're there
playing football, you're therefor, your academics and you need
(04:51):
to make sure you focus on that.
Well, I, I really grew up, in,in college, I would say, that 18
to 22 year period is soformidable for.
Young men and thankfully I hadstructure, I had routine, I had
coaches, I had accountability.
All of these things that a lotof these personal development
books and gurus might teach you,was ingrained in me through
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athletics.
And, I.
I just really worked hard at itand was an ESPN all, all
academic, all American, and thatwas probably, out of all the
accolades I received was, wasone of the most important to me
because it was like, Hey, thisguy doesn't just work hard in
the weight room and, and on thefootball field, but also, in
the, in the classroom.
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And I've learned that I am a, alearner and through strengths
finders.
my top talents, two of them arelearner and input.
So not only do I like to learn,I like to share what I learn and
what, what else is a betterresource now than LinkedIn as a
platform to share, the differentinformation that you, you have
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and, and that's your learning.
And, I, I call myself Mr.
Kansas City for this exactreason.
Folks like you, awesome Peoplefind me because they may be
interested in Kansas City, butI'm claiming to be Mr.
Kansas City, so I better talkto, to that guy.
And maybe just as many, peopledon't reach out because of that,
because they're like, Hey, I, Idon't know what this guy's, he's
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saying about him himself, but ithas spurred some really
incredible conversations.
And so, after college.
I, I got picked up as anundrafted free agent with the
Oakland Raiders, and I was outthere for a couple weeks and
made a couple cuts and had theopportunity, to continue on
after I was cut from, from theRaiders with the 49 ERs.
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But I felt God calling me in adifferent direction.
my passion, my fire.
The, intentionality that I hadfor college football didn't
really translate over to, the,the professional field because
you truly are fighting for yourlife and to get paid and took
some of that motivation out ofit for me and, and I said, I'm a
smart guy.
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I can, I can use my braininstead of just my bra to, to
put a living, together formyself.
And I just thought there wasmore.
And so I went back to schooland.
finish my, my Master's degree,but, I, I needed, I didn't have
a scholarship anymore, so Ineeded to get a job.
And so I would drive to SweetSprings, Missouri and work all
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day making 265 cold calls duringthe day.
And then I would drive back homeand go to school from five to
nine.
And, I spent eight to 10 hoursin the library just catching up
on the schoolwork on Saturdays.
in the, in the library there in,in Warrensburg.
And one thing that really Ithink changed me was, in that
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period of time, I, I alsotransformed my body.
I was an offensive lineman, so335 pounds and, I, I figured
that one, that's probably notthe healthiest way to live.
But you know, selfishly too, Ialso know if I'm to attract the
woman that I have envisioned inmy life.
for, for me, I, I probably needto lose some weight and so in
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six months, I, I lost 120pounds.
But probably the biggertransformation that happened in
that period of time was, thiswas pre podcasts.
really the only podcasts thatwere out there were John Lee
Dumas and Lewis Howes, A Schoolof Greatness.
So.
I was actually still listeningto CDs, Tony Robbins and Zig
Ziglar and Jim Rohn and allthese, figures and these, these,
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these CDs, Napoleon Hill.
Mm-hmm.
All these folks.
And, I was like, man, I don'tknow why they're not teaching
this stuff in my master'sprogram because this is where
it's at.
you sent me over someinformation about the pod.
previously I didn't look at itbecause I was sitting here in
this chair meditating.
If you were to tell me five, 10years ago that I would be
meditating on a regular basis,grounding myself, centering
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myself, getting control of mybody, I.
I would, I would call you crazy,but I've, I've learned all these
different tools and, skill setsthat I can now apply to
different areas of my life.
And, fast forwarding a littlebit, finishing my master's
program, I, I was a new person,I remember walking in to one of
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my master's classes, one of mylast classes, and I, and walking
by some of my buddies that, theydidn't even recognize me.
I, I was a hundred poundslighter and, and they were like,
wait, Logan, holy cow.
I wasn't on social media oranything like that, so.
Mm-hmm.
It was like six months had goneby and I had dropped a person,
and, and, and then that wasreally eyeopening for, for me.
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But something else really bigkind of happened to this.
I graduated, I had a new job,not making cold calls in Sweet
Springs, Missouri anymore.
I had a good job lined up.
my father had battled drugs andalcohol addiction his whole
life.
one, one bedroom house, 13brothers and sisters on a
tobacco farm from NorthCarolina, and I can only imagine
how difficult his upbringingwas, right?
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Like we never really got to talkabout that that much.
Well, he had some complicationswith his health and in 35 days
my dad passed away.
And so you can see, I'm 24 yearsold.
I'm no longer an athlete.
I've lost 110, 115 pounds, and Ilose my, my father all in a
matter of six months.
And Wow.
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Well that puts some, perspectiveinto your, into your life.
And, and I had some mentors inmy life that really helped me
say Hey, this is a turning pointin your life.
this is a decision time for you.
So you, you have the choice toeither.
Make the same decisions thatyour father did and or other
folks, and, and go down oneround or you can start to make
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better decisions.
And, that's when I realizedthat, your results in your life
are really the cumulativeeffects of the decisions and the
actions that you take.
And, I, I got started after,burying my father.
I got started as, as a, as afranchise consultant with Jimmy
John's and.
I was shipped off to Champaign,Illinois and then Ann Arbor,
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Michigan, and then planted backhere in Kansas City about 10
years ago.
And I was there for about a yearand hit a glass ceiling and
said, Hey, I need to be paidfor, for my performance.
And so, I left that company andwent to a startup company and in
sales, and then two and a halfyears later from, from working
there.
I had been doing some realestate just on the side, with,
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with myself and I, I had taken adifferent job and I, I was
fired, I was fired in 2017.
this guy that has redefinedhimself and, and has, has read
all of these books and, andFranklin Covey sales certified
and, and, and boom, one day.
You're fired.
And so another decision pointand turning point in my life
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and, and that's when I decidedno longer am I going to, work
for anyone else, I need to beable to go create my financial
and, and future.
and, and that's when I fellinto, some real estate.
So that's my journey, Kenny, on,on how I got to where I'm at
now.
Geezes, dude, that's awesome.
I.
I, I, I know we didn't gothrough all that the first time
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we talked, so I am totallyfascinated by the, identity
shifts.
I think that's probably one ofthe biggest things I, I heard
was, you mentioned the dad, you,you mentioned dad earlier, and
maybe a, a strained relationshipthere.
But, there's that motivation ofperforming, results.
obviously the sports thing is I.
Very much a results type ofthing.
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you'd rather make the cut or youdon't.
That's right.
And you know how crushing thatcould be to.
To go through something thatwould be a shift there.
But, I definitely applaud theresiliency, man.
You, yeah.
You mentioned the strengthfinders of, learner and input.
I think that is an awesomecombination.
And you even mentioned before werecorded, like you have
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something going on tonight.
I.
That's like a, a webinar with 60plus attendees already, figured
out.
Yeah.
So you are continuing, you haveevolved for sure since Mr.
NFL player.
Yeah.
Would you say you're like, justnot even the same?
I.
Like completely different fromthat, from that time.
Well, I, I've, I've beenlistening to some things,
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recently here by Ed Millet, whoI really, enjoy listening to.
He, he really comes from nothingand has created this, this life
for himself and, and truly is abeliever.
And, and he's also, I.
Out there spreading the message.
And, and he, he talks about yourcells in your body.
They're always regenerating,they're always changing.
And when you get to the actual,biomechanics of who you are as
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an individual, you're actuallynot the same person that you
were a year ago.
but your brain and your beliefsand your thoughts and those
mental models that you hold, ifthey will, it's a computer
program that if you do notupgrade, it will stay.
The same, but truly at amolecular level, you are
changing on a regular basis.
So, I, I wanna embrace that andI wanna embrace the, the
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God-given talents and abilitiesthat I've been blessed with, and
ensure that I'm not, putting thelamp shade underneath the bushel
basket, right.
And, and making sure that I'mshining my light as, as bright
as I possibly can.
So there's, I, I think there'sprobably been three to four
different evolutions and I'm,I'm likely going through one.
Right now of becoming a betterfather, a, a better Christian
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man, better husband, betterbusiness person.
And I think the moment that alot of people stop learning is
the moment they get out ofschool.
I, I just, I began learning whenI got outta school.
I've read more books now anddone more studying now than I
ever did in my MBA program, myundergrad, any other things
because it's interesting to me,right?
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And I believe truly I.
That, true success in this lifeis, is not how many commas in
the bank account.
It's not how many assets youhave under management.
It's not how many, doors thatyou have on the, on the
multifamily side.
It truly is.
your, your infa your influenceand your impact that you have
had on other folks.
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But, but also, being able torecognize that who you are today
doesn't mean that you have tostay the same person, I think is
incredibly, important.
And so, I think success truly isin, in life.
It, the whole goal of this isgrowth.
And is growth physically, it'sgrowth mentally, it's growth
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spiritually.
And my other two top talents areachiever and discipline.
So you put learner and inputnext to achiever and discipline.
And then individualization is myfifth one, which just means I'm,
I grew up with three womenaround me and I have a high
emotional, quotient, a highemotional intelligence.
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And thank, thankfully I canutilize that in, in a lot of
different ways, which is why I,I interact with people on a, on
a regular basis.
Right?
And so, you put that achieverand discipline together, it.
And I wanna make sure thatpeople understand that if you
take that StrengthsFinders testjust because you, you were given
a strength.
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That's really a talent.
Those are the talents that youwere given.
If cultivated can become yourstrengths, but each one of those
strengths, let's take ourachiever for, for example, they
have balconies.
Meaning I can achieve something.
But they also have basementsthat say, I'm only going to
focus on this one thing andeverything else is going to fall
by the wayside.
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Well, that you could see howthat could completely,
deteriorate somebody.
If all you're doing is focusingon money and, or all you're
doing, where's your health,right?
So you're living in the basementof that strength, which is
really just a talent.
So you have to be rec, you haveto recognize that, early on.
For myself, just because I hadlearner and input didn't mean
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everybody I talked to wanted tolearn or be inputted on.
Right.
And so, those are things thatyou have to keep in mind and,
and I'm continuing to learn andgrow and evolve on a regular
basis.
and, and, and making sure that,that I I understand that right.
Yeah.
the growth mentality dictatestime, like, how am I growing
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over the, I've worked on thesame thing for a year or Hey, I
have been reading book afterbook after book.
Like there's a, there's a timeelement to growth and I think we
all have different clocks oflike urgency, maybe
availability, margin.
and I, I sense the.
The love for learning from you.
and it'll, and, but you're notjust learning to keep it inside.
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You're learning to, like youmentioned, input and achieve.
Yeah.
you have disciplines.
So I think that is a lesson forus all on, are we stuck
learning?
Are we just stopped?
Have we stopped learning?
I think I judge my learning fromhow, how hard it is for me to
listen to a book or read a book.
I'm just like, nah, I'm notreally in the mood for that, or.
I don't know, whatever, whateverthat resistance is usually is
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the indicator for me of I needto, I need to break this.
This is bad.
Sure.
Yeah.
well, I think that learning isalso something that, can be
addictive.
I.
But you have to learn it at adeep level.
So I adopted the Feinmantechnique, probably six or seven
years ago.
Instead of reading a hundredbooks per year, 50 books per
year, whatever, you know that,that one article that said CEOs
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read 50 books a year orwhatever, might've been the most
damaging thing for the personaldevelopment space because.
If you cannot teach it to afifth grader, you do not know
the information at a deep enoughlevel.
So no longer do I feel nec thenecessity to finish a book.
I, I, I get one, a aspect out ofit.
And typically you'll get acouple good ideas out of a book
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and the rest is filler.
Yeah.
Maybe the stories help youremember it, but I'm looking for
something new, something that'sgoing to stick with me, and
then.
I need to figure out how can Ilearn how to teach this to a
fifth grader And I need to knowit at that deep level.
Right?
And so that's been mymethodology recently is going
much deeper than focusing ongoing so wide, right.
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And just achieving and readinganother book.
And one thing that's beenblowing my mind here recently is
the Actual Science of Successand Napoleon Hill's book, think
and Grow Rich has been read.
by more, more.
Than any other personaldevelopment book by, by a
tenfold measure.
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Okay, so hundreds of millions ofpeople have read this book.
Well, are there one hundreds ofmillions of grow rich, rich
people in the world?
no, there's not.
Look at the, look at thenumbers.
Now.
Maybe they are rich in adifferent way, but there's a
reason that people read thatbook and then they just went on
the shelf and they for forgotabout it.
Right?
Well, the biggest thing that.
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The secret that Napoleon Hillgives in this book is that
thoughts are things andeverything starts with a
thought, but then he stoppedthere.
You have to take this further.
You have 60 to 70,000 thoughtsper day.
95% of those thoughts are onesthat came from the past are, are
actually untrue, and this iscrucial.
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So if that is the case, then if95% of your, your thoughts are
from the past, we have to breakthose thoughts.
Away from the past and startliving from the future,
especially if you're living froma place of pain and regret and
anxiety and depression, becauseyou're only going to continue to
create that reality for yourselfin today's environment.
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Well, here's the other coolthing that Napoleon Hill forgot
to really say, well, or at leastI I have, I've been researching,
is that 95% of your dailyactions are actually
subconscious and unconscious.
Think about it.
Blinking breathing, going to thebathroom, driving your car.
How many people have driven homethe same way and forgot once
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they got home?
Oh my gosh, I don't evenremember if the red, the light
was red or green.
You are operating on a habitualpattern because I.
Your body and your mind utilizerituals and habits to do that.
So if that is the case, we'rewe're actually only operating at
5% of our capacity as humankind.
So what do we do?
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Well, we have to go back in themornings and we have to be able
to train our subconsciousbecause if we can train this 95%
of the actions and the thoughtsand the feelings that we're
having early on in the morning.
Now you're gonna be operatingfrom a place, from abundance of
generosity.
Mm-hmm.
Of love, if that's what you'refeeding yourself early on.
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And this takes time to get to.
So the idea being 60, 70,000thoughts per day, 90% of them in
the past 95% of your actions.
Subconscious.
We need to start dictating whatour subconscious is feeling,
thinking, and doing on a regularbasis.
And that is where the, the movieThe Secret, tried to bring this
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law of attraction thing to themainstream media, but where it
fell short was, I'm gonna sit ina room, I'm gonna close my eyes
and I'm gonna manifest.
A million dollars.
I'm gonna manifest a six pack.
I'm gonna manifest the personthat I love.
No, you have to take action, butyou have to train your
subconscious to be doing thingson your behalf that are going to
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attract the right things in yourlife.
And that is the true science ofsuccess.
And so John Mitchell wrote thisbook recently.
Called The Missing Secret, whichhe studied Napoleon Hill's book.
And this is, this is straightfrom, from his book, and I know
John and I've talked to him, andthank you for putting this out.
But it's in my work bag righthere.
It's probably the only book I'mgonna read this year because
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every chapter.
I go to my remarkable, and thenI write down my main takeaways.
And then every single day I haveaffirmations that I'm writing
down because writingcrystallizes thought.
And so I'm trying to get to theroot, the, the science of
success because most newpersonal development stuff is
just the same from Bob Proctor,Napoleon Hill, Dale Carnegie.
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they, these guys had it figuredout and now people are just
repackaging it.
Well, I'm just going back to thesource, figuring out.
How to implement that into mydaily routine and feeling
comfortable with that.
So it's been a long journey justfrom a, a learning standpoint
and input as well from going sowide and now going a mile deep
instead of a mile wide.
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The habits that you're talkingabout, writing things down,
morning routines, retraining,give us, give us, if you don't
mind, what's your morningroutine look like right now?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I get this question a lot.
I'm an early riser.
Have been for a long time, soI'm up at 5:00 AM.
The first thing I'm doing isthanking God for another
morning, and starting from aplace from gratitude before my
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my feet hit the bed or hit thefloor.
I'm, I'm starting from a placeof gratitude, getting dressed
for my morning workout, goingand making my wife coffee, and
programming that.
I don't like coffee, but Iprogram her coffee to be done at
6:00 AM every single day.
Dude, we are brothers in that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're straight up brothers.
Thank you for that.
And then.
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Then I hit the, I hit the, theprayer.
So I'm going through the gospelfor the day.
What, what, what is God tryingto tell me today Instead of
starting from a place, I'm gonnamake this happen.
I'm gonna achieve this, I'mgoing to do that.
It is, I.
Opening up my heart, my mind, mysoul to say, God, what is it
that you want me to accomplishtoday?
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So that's number one.
Number two is this methodology,this 12 minute methodology from
the book, the Missing Secret,which I have gone through and
written this whole thing out,that John has researched all of
the, the, the science behind.
I went through the step-by-stepprocess, so I have that.
in a Google document, and I havethat read to me every single
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morning.
So I'm, so I'm training thesubconscious brain, right?
Okay.
Then it's, get the shoes on.
Head down to the workout roomand get the LinkedIn post done
for the day.
So the LinkedIn post is done.
I'm warming up.
I hit the workout for, for aboutan hour.
kids are starting to wake up.
I jump in the sauna, for 10minutes, re recalibrate, and
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then I'm upstairs with theprotein shake, hitting the
shower, grabbing the kids, goingto school, and starting the day
off, drop the kids off atschool, and then I go directly
from there to church everysingle day.
So I go from dropping the kidsoff to either adoration or
actual service every singlemorning, and that's when I have
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my remarkable tablet out and Igo through, a pretty strict
routine.
I'm reviewing the previous day,what went well, I.
What didn't go well?
Okay, I'm thinking through, whatdid I listen to from the gospel
just now from church or thismorning, and I'm writing that
down.
So what was the message?
Because it's really easy toforget reading any type of
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message early on.
Three hours later, you canforget what you read.
So I'm rehashing that I'm goingthrough my top five meaningful
conversations that I'm havingthrough that throughout the day.
If I don't have five, then Iknow I need to make some calls
to get to my five.
Okay.
And then Andy Frisella's,powerless methodology.
I don't do to-do lists.
I do powerless.
What are the five things that ifI accomplish today are going to
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make everything else easier orunnecessary?
I don't always have five.
Sometimes there's two, but the,the two top things, the three
top things that I'm trying toget done.
Are there on my, on myRemarkable.
And now I just started writingdown all these different
affirmations as well.
So that's the morning routine,from 5:00 AM to 9:00 AM There
you go.
There's, and then from nine tofive it is, it is busting out
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the work.
It's meetings.
Mm-hmm.
Conversations, deals, and then Iturn off and, and then then,
become husband father from fiveto nine.
And then nine o'clock typicallyis We're tired and we're going
to bed most likely.
but we'll watch a little bit oftv.
I'll do what, St.
Ignatius, talks about, which iscalled the, the examine of
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conscious.
So, hey, where did I show up asthe best version of myself
today?
Where did I fail?
Do I need to apologize foranything?
What could have I done better?
Right?
And then I go through a littlebit of gratitude before bed, try
to get some positive mentalitygoing before I go to sleep.
And then.
TV's off and bedtime is there,and I fall asleep in about five
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or 10 minutes.
Wow.
That was, that was not just yourmorning routine.
That was your day.
There's my day.
Yep.
Dude, I gotta say, you may bethe most intentional person I've
had on this show at this point.
No, I I don't mean to puff youup.
I'm just saying you have thoughtabout this.
Yes.
How old are you, Logan?
30.
I just turned 35 last month.
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Okay.
So, man, thank you so much forsharing that, dude.
And, I, I don't even wanna say.
Wow.
Like we were joking, like wewere gonna have a meaningful
conversation before we hitrecord.
And then maybe a few years fromnow we might be like, what were
we thinking?
But dude, I see you as someonewho's super intentional in what
you do, how you spend your time.
and let me pivot there'cause I,part of my thoughts before
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recording here where we're gonnatalk about Kansas City, we're
gonna talk about real estate andSure.
Kinda the nuts and bolts.
I don't.
I don't really see that as, as ahigh, high, meaningful
conversation based on what we'vetalked about thus far.
So let me go into, I'd say the,the life of a dad.
Yeah.
Because you've, you've, you'vebeen hyper intentional about
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mindset.
How to, showing up for yourselfthe best version.
I love that you said, who do Iapologize for?
Just like very faith focused aswell.
give us, let's just shift tothe, the, the fatherhood side of
life.
How many kids do you have?
What are, what are, what's yourcurrent status with Dad Hood?
I have a 6-year-old girl,Isabella.
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I have a four and a half yearold son, Ezra, and I have about
an 18 month old daughterMagnolia.
And we are hoping that God willbless us with more children,
when the time is is right and,and, that happens.
But, so I have three kids, sixand under, and I think that.
Two years ago was, was reallywhen I started to realize my, my
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oldest daughter is now startingto see me and emulate me and
talk like me.
And, this really hit home when,one of our babysitters, was over
for the evening.
And she was a teacher from theschool or the daycare that they
were at at the time.
And she just came, pulled measide and, in our home is is
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crucifixes and, and bibles and,and, statues and things.
So you, it's, it's, it's, it'sgonna be there, right?
it's all over my office here aswell.
But she, so she was a, she's aChristian, Christian girl who,
who is now our full-time housemanager, by the way.
Okay.
So she manages three of our,our, our children, picks'em up
from school.
And anyways, she pulled me asideand said, Hey, I just want you
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to know I babysit a lot for alot of the parents.
I.
And, this was probably two orthree years ago and she said, I
have never had a, a student,Isabella would've been three or
four at the time, trying to dosomething in the class and
somebody else says, Hey, it'sokay if you can't do that.
And Isabella stopped Starklooked at her and said,
Freeman's, don't say can't.
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Freeman's don't say can't.
And she repeated it and just,she went back to what she was
doing.
And when I heard that story, Iwas like, holy cow.
what I do, what I say on aregular basis is starting to
stick.
And so that's when I got reallyserious.
I might've been somewhat seriousabout, my, my routine and what
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I'm doing and saying, but now.
Every single morning, my son, mydaughter, come down to the
workout room'cause they knowwhere daddy's gonna be.
maybe they come down a littleearlier.
They see me on the couchpraying, some days I may be on
my knees, just opening up myarms and What are you doing,
daddy?
Well, come here sweetheart.
Let me.
Today in adoration.
I have picture with my son.
I have no idea when they'recoming to adoration.
My kids go to Catholic school,but I was there and guess who
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tapped me on the shoulder?
I look across and it's my fourand a half year old son.
I'm the, I guarantee you, I'mthe only parent that's in
adoration almost every timetheir, their parent comes, well,
well, every time there's allschool mass, I'm in the back
singing loud.
he will raise you up on eagleswings, and now I'm known as the
guy.
Who stands in the back and singsreally loud and all the kids are
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staring at me, right?
And so now, now my daughtercomes down and she's daddy, I
need to get my pull-ups in.
So I don't let my 6-year-olddaughter just do pull-ups by
herself.
So don't get, don't get on onsome, I'm not training my
children to be physicalspecimens at this point point.
You're in a judge tree zone,brother.
Okay?
Yeah, true Judge Tree.
And, and I hold her feet andshe's fine, but she comes down
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and she's daddy, can I get my10?
Pull pullups in?
And then when 10 comes around, Ihave a big sign in my workout
room that says, go one more.
one more rep.
Ed Millet.
Go one more.
And she never stops at number10.
And so now my son is doing it.
Now he's doing pushups, right?
Just because they see that andthey emulate that.
And so I think I got superserious and intentional about
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this when I started to see thechildren.
Pick things up.
Right?
And I think that was like holycow eye-opening experiment and,
and mind mindset shift to me tosay I might not be the best
parent.
I know I'm not the best parent.
I, I fail on a regular basis,but the least I can do is lead
(32:28):
by my actions and I'm gonna leadmyself.
First, and I'm gonna be led byGod and the Holy Spirit, and
then I'm gonna lead myself and,and then, hopefully by my
actions, not just by my words, Ican lead the most important
people that are close to me.
So anyways, man, that's, that'sjust a little bit of a, an
excerpt there that, really hithome for me a couple years ago.
(32:49):
it's great.
That's a great intentionality,leading by example.
That's a theme I continue to, topreach and understand.
you've mentioned that like we'realways changing and my advice to
parents that you've pretty muchsummed up is, we have these
ideas of how to have these likeimportant talks.
(33:10):
If you are just, if you are,like you said, leading yourself
first.
Your kids are watching you.
Yeah.
that's the best way to parent.
Just let them see you do things.
And we don't all have thatcapability of, our kids are with
us 24 7, obviously.
Right?
You're, you're taking'em toschool.
They have things that they'redoing there.
you're hearing stories aboutthat.
But those, those lessons arecaught.
(33:31):
They're not taught.
So really huge.
Thank you for the encouragementon, like the praying, the, the,
the workout, like the health andlike my even mindset, like Yeah,
Freeman's don't say, can't,don't say, is that written down
somewhere in your house or isthat something no, it's just
written in their, in theirmethodologies.
We do have.
(33:51):
the Freeman 10 Commandments,posted up in our, in our house,
and we go through those as afamily on a regular basis.
But, I wanted my children toknow how to pray and to, start
their days that way.
Right.
And, as Catholics, we have allthese different prayers that we
say, well, my children, canrecite almost all of them now,
(34:12):
and, and, and actually.
they, they can actually be apart of church because they know
these saints, but, or theseprayers.
But one of the things that I'vedone, and I'll put this up by
the screen, you guys can seethis is the full serenity
prayer, right?
Everybody knows, God grant methe serenity to accept the
things I cannot change, thecourage to change the things
that I can and the wisdom toknow the difference, but.
(34:34):
Reinhold er actually has a lotmore lines after that, and the
prayer is much longer, thanthat.
And, and so every time we get inthe car, I have these prayer
cards for the new prayers thatwe're trying to learn.
And before we can leave orbefore we can talk about it, the
children have to recite thoseprayers.
And, I, I'm proud to say theyknow at least 10 different
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prayers now, and we do it everysingle day.
And if I forget.
Ezra, my four and a half yearold son will say, Hey daddy, we
forgot to say our prayers.
And he'll start in the name ofthe father, the son of the Holy
Spirit.
Take Lord, all my liberty, allmy memory, my understanding, my
whole will.
it's unbelievable.
And then when people ride withus, they have not heard that
before.
You hear this four and a halfyear old kid.
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Going through a two to threeminute prayer from memory.
It's just fascinating.
Right?
And so I think that my, mymentality is we're likely all as
parents to screw our kids up insome way, but I'm gonna do the
best job to screw them up in thebest way that I know possible,
which might be routine.
And it's, and it's at leastfaith oriented, it's fitness
oriented, and it's, it's,focused on the family, right?
(35:36):
So, I, I thought that was prettyinteresting.
One of my mentors said, Hey, Iknow you're doing all these.
Things, but just know, he's gotolder children.
He goes, just know that you cantry your best.
But, we're not perfect andwe're, we're definitely
infallible.
sorry, we're fallible people andwe are, going to screw them up
in some way, but just try to doyour best and you're, you're
doing the right thing.
(35:56):
So I try to take a lot of those.
Those pieces of, fatherhoodwisdom from other individuals
who are, maybe have olderchildren.
And I'm always asking questionson, what did you do here?
And in this scenario, and, allthese different components.
And, and that's again, probablythe learner and the input that
I'm, I've got as a, as a talent.
But I love asking thosequestions because, you, you can
see folks that have 5, 6, 7 kidsand running businesses and
(36:20):
you're like, wow.
like they're.
They're operating at a highlevel.
And then when you peel the onionback, you realize, hey man,
their life is just as messy andhard.
Yes.
And, and, and tough and, and,and just as anybody else's.
Right?
And, and that's, that's acomforting thing.
I think that's a comfortingthing.
Okay.
Tough question.
I probably have two morequestions for you.
the audience here.
We're dads.
(36:40):
No one's perfect.
And this isn't a podcast to belike, Hey, this is how you
become a perfect dad.
Right?
we're striving for, for that.
But there's one person thatlived, perfectly in this life.
Yeah.
And his name is Jesus.
So, and there's not gonna beanother one.
he's, he is the one.
So if we can be like him, we'redoing okay.
but gimme something that you've.
(37:02):
You've experienced maybe in thelast year of a failure or a, an
area that God was showing youthat you're obviously not the
only, like I think, I feel likethe devil wants to say, Hey,
this is a Logan problem.
You're the only one that goesthrough this.
I can't believe you.
Let this happen again.
Whatever.
But we know as.
Dads we're all struggling.
it's, it's a constant struggle.
(37:22):
Yeah.
gimme something that, ouraudience can relate with you on,
that this was a hard thing thatI had to go through personally.
And you're rather still in it,or, you've seen some victories
from this specific thing.
Yeah.
Well I think that, for me it wasgetting really real and raw
with, my, so-called routinesand, and you can.
(37:43):
You can easily fall intospecific routines as a way to
make yourself feel better andfeel like you are in control.
Okay?
So, number one would be, hey, Ineed to think about all of the
things that are not adding,value to my life.
Right.
But I turn towards in difficultcircumstances, so for me that is
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staying active, staying busy.
So I found myself, beingobsessed with learning how to
play golf and become a singledigit handicap and, and doing
all these things and going tothe range and all this stuff.
And I realized like.
I, I deserve to do this, right?
I've got some free time.
I worked hard to do this.
And, that started to really be adetriment to, my marriage
(38:26):
because, she, my wife would say,look, I, I, I feel like you are
prioritizing, golf and playingthere when you could be spending
time with us or with me.
And I said, man, that's, atfirst I was like, no way.
I'm doing it during times thataren't gonna take away from us.
And I, I realized, no, I am,and, and I basically have gone
cold Turkey for, with golf.
I haven't swung a club in, six,seven months.
(38:47):
Right.
And, and I'm, and here's thecool part is I don't even long
for that anymore.
So when you rip those vicesaway, the other one being
alcohol.
I, I very rarely drink alcoholnow and I love making cocktails.
I'm a great bartender and allthese different things.
I make cocktails for people allthe time when they come over.
Well, I have a non-alcoholicspirit that I'll make the same
(39:08):
cocktail with, but I'll just notdrink.
Right.
Why?
Well, I don't sleep very well.
I'm a little bit grouchy when Iwake up the next day and I'm a
little less motivated to be thebest version of myself.
And so, but I didn't realize, Ididn't think it was a problem.
Same thing with golf, right?
And, and, but I started torealize that those things are
not adding true value to mylife.
(39:30):
And so, those are things that Ihad to say.
become really, real with, to saywhat am I spending my time on?
What am I turning towards in,in, in life when things get
hard?
And instead of doing that, howdo I surrender that, to God and
actually, bring that to him andsay, Hey, I'm struggling with
this right now.
(39:51):
And just stay there and feelthat emotion and feel that.
That pain.
And, Kenny, I can, I can tellyou that going through that,
having a dispositional change inmy personality of, I don't even
care to even go pick up the golfclubs and try to go hit a little
white ball around a beautifulcourse anymore to the point
(40:11):
where it's like, Hey, should Istill be at this country club
because I'm never using it,right?
Mm-hmm.
that is a really cool growthopportunity and I never thought
that would come because.
I loved doing it so much, butwhen, when, when the love of
what you're doing, takes awayfrom what you truly should be
prioritizing, I think that is amessage of, of Jesus.
(40:31):
And as, as I'm going through thechosen, I don't know why it took
me so long to watch this show.
I'm starting to see.
That be stripped away.
Take Matthew for example.
He's a tax collector.
He bought his first house whenhe was 13 years old.
Right.
He had more money than hisparents and his three uncles
combined, right?
But his, he, his family disownedhim because of what he was
doing.
(40:52):
And he sold himself out to thedevil a little bit to go make
money.
But he didn't think he was doingthat.
He was thinking he was doingsomething good because he's
using his God-given, talent.
So, I'd say.
Reevaluating priorities, on aregular basis has been, and,
and, and changing the beliefsystems is, is really what it
(41:12):
is, is like something I heldtrue to earlier on in my life is
no longer true.
This is a new truth.
Accepting that and movingforward as, as that, as the new,
the new truth is reallydifficult to do, and that's why
people say change is the onlyconstant, but it's the hardest
thing.
That's always constantlychanging, right?
And, and it's very hard toaccept unless you are willing to
(41:36):
be humble enough to try tobecome a better version of
yourself.
And so, I don't know if thatanswered your question, but
those are two examples that Iwould say I.
were real challenges for me.
I know that sounds silly, but Iknow a lot of people have, have
chains and I, I know my, my, mylineage, my father, and, and I,
I know my personality beingobsessed.
I, I, I was, diagnosed withobsessive compulsive disorder as
(41:58):
a young boy.
I was on Ritalin until one day Isaid, I cannot do this anymore.
and I, I remember, never takingthat, that pill again and
saying, mom, I gotta, I gotta,you gotta find some other way
for me to get.
Get past this.
And, and she did.
And it was incredible.
But, those two things, in mylife were really difficult,
really big challenges for me tochange my, my belief systems on.
(42:19):
Thank you for sharing that.
They're not silly things.
I think we all have our ownsilly things that we could say,
don't only want anyone to knowabout this or I, I do feel right
on this and, it's not really abig deal.
and I want to give accolades toyour wife.
we talk about family fatherhoodon the show.
guys, we don't have a familywithout our wives, so Yeah.
And, I was recently thinkingabout how my wife calls me out
(42:41):
on stuff.
Yes.
And part of me is man, sheshould respect me on this.
doesn't she know how, how hard Iwork?
And, people don't talk to melike this, like this.
And, and she she wasn't even,she wasn't even like doing
anything wrong, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
She like, just straight up waslike, do you really think this
is the best thing, blah, blah,blah.
And.
I don't have anyone else in mylife that does that like she
(43:01):
does and, and who knows me likeshe does.
So, that, that knee jerkresponse of, of, this is, I'm
not taking time away from you.
And, and I feel you and, and Ilove that you at least.
I tried to understand what shewas saying enough to, to come to
that realization of you knowwhat, I am doing this.
Yes.
And, and I would like to thinkthat your relationship is, has
(43:24):
grown that much more from you,not golfing.
Which would you admit was moreimportant than golfing?
100%.
I hear you man.
I love that.
Logan, we're outta time buddy.
right.
I, I really appreciate all theinsights.
This has been, I feel like a, atime for me to just sit down and
enjoy, learn, learn from yourlife.
(43:46):
Yeah.
we're gonna try to get you backon the show to talk more about
Kansas City stuff, but we can,if not, this has been hugely
valuable for me.
and I know my audience give us afinal, walkout of.
Hey, if we want to get on theLogan, train of what, what he's
up to, where he's spending timemm-hmm.
Where he's doing stuff, directmy audience where to go and
then, I not to be too heavy, butif you have a final closeout of
(44:09):
just, application of, to dadstoday of something that they
could work on.
Well, I'm most active onLinkedIn, so Logan Freeman just
search Mr.
Kansas City and I will pop upand I post over there on a
regular basis.
Six days outta the week istypically.
Professional, and then, I'vetaken a little flack for this
(44:29):
and, and lost some, somefollowers and things like that.
But every Sunday I'm, I'm gonnapost a reflection about, what
I'm learning in the gospel.
And I, and I'm okay with losingsome, some followers because of
that, because I have a platformnow and I'm gonna use it to my
best, ability.
if I had any closing remarks, I,I would say this You as a father
have more influence on yourfamily than you believe.
(44:54):
And then did you think?
And it is truly aresponsibility.
It is not a, a gi it's, it is agift, but it isn't just given to
you freely.
It is a responsibility.
So you need to be respons able,to be able to dictate that.
And it all starts with yourthoughts and your belief.
System.
(45:15):
And so the moment that you canrealize that we are on a tiny
planet in a massive, atmosphere,or, I don't even know the right
words, right, galaxies orwhatever, were like little ants
walking around here.
And, you, your, what you do on,on a regular basis may not seem
that important to the grandscheme of things.
(45:37):
Everything starts at home.
And if you can have an influenceon the people that are closest
to you, there's a butterflyeffect and there's a ripple
effect, which that will continueto move on, throughout the, the
ethos.
And so I think that for me, itreally is about understanding.
I'm not gonna have maybe theinfluence or impact that.
(45:58):
certain individuals m might butI can have an influence and
impact on the people that God isblessed in my life.
And let's start there and lethim work through me.
And, we have this machoism,effect as, as men.
And don't be afraid.
To talk about your emotions and,and how you're feeling and if
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you need to get someoneobjectively coaching you through
that, it was one of the most, isone of the most beneficial
things that, that you can do.
And I, I do that on a, on aregular basis, but understanding
the emotions that go through.
Your brain are extremelyimportant to be able to,
influence your family in theright way.
So don't, don't think thattalking about emotions is like
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this unmanly thing.
It's actually the most manlything that you can do is take
responsibility of your ownemotions and your own thoughts.
Logan Freeman, thank you so muchMr.
Kansas City.
good luck tonight on the, thewebinar, and thank you so much
for your time today with myinvested fathers to my invested
fathers out there.
Continue to invest wisely.
I'm, I'm here for you.
(47:03):
reach out anytime, to me orLogan, if there's things that we
can do to help you.
And thank you for taking thetime to listen to this episode.
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