May 5, 2024 • 41 mins
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In the world of sports and art, the human experience unfolds in unexpectedly diverse ways. Our podcast episode brings to light the many shades of life's tapestry, interwoven with the threads of mishaps, mastery, and the marvels of modern technology. We kick off the discussion with an overview of recent sports events, diving into the Baltimore In the world of sports and art, the human experience unfolds in unexpectedly diverse ways. Our podcast episode brings to light the many shades of life's tapestry, interwoven with the threads of mishaps, mastery, and the marvels of modern technology. We kick off the discussion with an overview of recent sports events, diving into the Baltimore Orioles' performance against formidable rivals. The conversation takes a deeper turn as we ponder the impact of injuries on athletes' careers, especially highlighting Grayson Rodriguez's situation. Sports, with its triumphs and trials, reflects life's unpredictable nature, a theme that carries throughout our episode.
Shifting from the crack of the bat to the stroke of the brush, we strip down to the bare essentials of art. Nude modeling, a subject shrouded in both reverence and controversy, is laid bare as I recount my own experiences posing for my artist wife. This intimate art form, often hidden behind the studio doors of institutions like MICA, prompts us to consider the contrasts between public perceptions of nudity and its respected place in academia. Our discussion peels back layers, exposing the vulnerability and strength required to model, and the nuances that male and female models navigate within this profession.
The role of artificial intelligence in the arts also comes under scrutiny. We marvel at AI's capacity to synthesize information and its burgeoning influence on content creation, yet we also grapple with the implications for human creativity. Could we be approaching a "WALL-E"-esque future where consumption trumps creation? This philosophical debate underscores our deep-seated need to cherish the human spark within our artistic and technological pursuits.
As the night unfolds, we find ourselves in the throes of late-night comedic musings, reflecting on the lighter side of life's trials and tribulations. The power of laughter to bind us, even amid overwork and exhaustion, is a reminder of the resilience of the human spirit. Our exchange celebrates the serendipitous moments that make life rich and the connections that sustain us.
To cap off the season, we circle back to the theme of sports and artistry, drawing parallels between athletic endeavors and creative exploits. We muse on the physical and psychological parallels of performing under pressure, whether on the field or in front of an easel. The episode concludes with an affirmation of life's ironies and the beauty of our shared human experience.
In essence, this podcast episode is an ode to the varied facets of life that each of us encounters. Through sports, art, and the advancement of technology, we are reminded of our collective journey's intricacy and the importance of embracing each twist and turn with humor, introspection, and a touch of grace.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
how come?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I didn't like.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
She said she was gonna do that.
Yeah, she didn't do it she'slike I got this.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Sure, okay, I'll do that can't trust a woman crispy
currently.
What do we have happening today?
Cj.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
A whole agenda.
You're talking.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Between you and Nick.
You guys both get everythingoutside of my little world.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Right, here's your update for the week.
How about sports?
This sounds a little bit better.
How about sports?
Sports, I can do.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That's the main thing I need from you today.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Recent Orioles news.
We had an awful series againstthe A's.
We lost two of a three-gameseries.
We had a pretty great seriesagainst the Yanks.
We won three out of four.
Kyle, bradish and John Meansare back in the rotation.
Bradish went today, had a greatouting Zero runs allowed.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Zero runs allowed.
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That means there was a zero score when he left the
game oh, okay yeah, and uh,grayson rodriguez is on the il
for some bullshit, rostermanipulation, so bradish and
means could come back andthey're gonna figure out how to
work that out in 15 days.
Uh, they say he's hurt on theil means injury list or whatever
, and uh, he's.
(01:24):
It was like arm soreness.
Anytime I see something aboutsoreness, I know it's bullshit.
You know that's not a realreason to put somebody on the il
.
Um, in other good-ish news,they found the the fifth of six
people that were lost in thebridge.
Uh, disaster, they found fiveof the six.
Yeah, they lost in the bridge.
(01:45):
Disaster, they found five ofthe six.
Yeah, they found like the fifthone yesterday.
Wow, that's incredible stuff,Yep.
So we got one more to find.
Fingers crossed, but you know,hopefully that brings a bit of
closure to the family.
They gave us a an updateschedule.
What broad schedule.
When we're going to have abridge again about 2020, fall of
(02:08):
2028 and 1.9 million billiondollars.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I was gonna say, when you said million, I'm like yeah
, yeah it is?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
is the the goal?
I can tell you from experience,those uh early on schedules
often are not met, but we'll allkeep uh our fingers crossed for
hope right now yeah I'm still.
I'm sticking with my five-yearplan, so I'm thinking 2029,
spring 2029, it's actuallyfinished.
I don't have anything to sayabout the bridge.
I mean, I just saw that on thenews today other than I.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Then I I listened, re-listened to our bridge
podcast and I heard a lot of uherrors in our podcast and I went
you know what?
That's what we knew at thepoint.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Exactly, that was like the two days after it
happened.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Like I'm listening to it, I was like ooh ouch man,
that was way off.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Hey, we're putting ourselves out there.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, I mean we get it.
I hope you guys get it.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
But I'm still.
I did say five years then andI'm sticking with my five-year
schedule.
No, I'm with you on that.
That was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I think we did the best we could.
Yeah, I mean, it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
What's been going on in your life, dan?
Oh my God.
Last time we talked, you weregoing to take your boat out and
your jet skis out that happen,yes I did.
How'd it go man?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I took both jet skis out out and the one jet ski I
was confident was working themout well and it was.
I got it all back to the thingand I put it back on the on the,
got it out and back back all bymyself.
I mean, there's not many peopleout in the water right now so I
probably today.
There is because it's 95degrees out for the first time
ever since last year for thefirst time during this time of
year yeah, this time a long time, probably decades yes it, yes,
(03:45):
it's like the sun exploded today.
I do remember what I was goingto say Go for it.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
The Unified Command, I believe, has hopes to have the
dolly refloated by the 10th ofthis month.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Wow, that's not far away.
That's like next Friday, eightdays away.
Eight days away.
That's not how that goes.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I know it's not far away.
That's like next Friday, eightdays away.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Eight days away.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
That's not how that goes.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I know it's a week.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But yeah, that's incredible, I expected.
Every time I look over I'm likethat thing is still there,
Right, you know?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
they're going to repaint it, change the name of
the thing so they can't get sued.
Oh yeah, they're going to floatthat thing to West Africa and
change the name of it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, repaint the whole.
Thing.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
It'll only take a couple of hours Instead of the
Salvador Nelly it's the PabloPicasso Right.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
They'll never notice.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It is insane stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
How about the other one you said one of them did
very well Jet ski?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So the jet skis I got , so I got back back and forth
with one.
It was great, it was amazing.
And I go on the second one andI get out there on the water and
it just keeps like like dyingoff and I'm like what the hell
it keeps dying off.
And then so I figured outsomething about a little.
You know, I had an air leak andthe gas.
I came back to the dock and fixthat, go back out and I noticed
(05:04):
there's still water cominginside of it.
Oh, that's no good yeah, I justI don't know.
I just don't feel comfortablehaving water come into a boat, a
vessel.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Especially if you're out there by yourself and not
many people around.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, I came back.
I come back and you know I tookoff the jet.
So right now I have one jet skiwith the jet off, but I'm going
to reinstall it with a new ski.
Well, yeah, it's just, it'sjust, uh, it'll has a, I guess a
six inch wide hole where thejet is supposed to go through so
really it wouldn't force air orwater through it would be a ski
(05:38):
until water got all the wayinside gotcha, and then it will
be a sink.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
How about the boat?
Did you get the boat out?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I have not had the boat out.
I'm still working on.
It's a very long I I'm.
I was dealing with the oilchange dilemma.
In order to get to the oil plugyou have to be up to your
shoulders.
Uh, an engine, the bottom ofthe engine has to be at your
shoulder.
It takes me a little bit ofmotivation to get out there to
do this thing to that point yeah, so I'm done.
Plus, you need time to be ableto put it all back together, so,
(06:06):
yeah, I have to take themanifolds off and the muffler,
the exhaust, you know, all thatstuff, whatever, in layman's
terms, the whole exhaust systemthat with the water flowing
through it has to come off.
It's a big mess.
So right now I'm getting readyto reinstall the manifold and
gaskets and exhaust.
Uh, you know, once that's alldone and I can start it up and I
(06:27):
can try to strand nick out inthe water again but you have to
be there so you can save themyeah, yeah, no, I mean like me
and him go out and we get stuckoh stranded together?
yeah, stranded together.
Have we been pulled backtogether?
Nick on the boat?
I've been pulled back on theboat, I just don't know if
you're like there possibly wasone time, but I can't be sure
not on the string.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
They call that string towing I know we towed somebody
before.
I believe it was a chinese ladyand a chinese man ah, that was
on wave runners.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That was on brendan's wave runners, wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
yeah, wait, you were on the wave runners and you
we've towed a boat with the waverunners.
Yes, because I know it's kindof awesome actually.
Yeah we.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We were towing brendan's boat with his wave
runner and so I, I, uh, I thinkI think nick got paid for doing
that right oh, we both did yeah,we both got 25 dollars yeah
from the chinese
Speaker 1 (07:20):
couple.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
It's also something you're having fun doing so oh
man, that's great, you have acouple bucks too brendan got his
boat out there and then histrailer got damaged upon I don't
know.
We had to transport a boat thatwasn't running as well, so he
damaged his trailer, so hecouldn't pull it out, so we had
to tow the boat over tosomewhere else because the boat
(07:41):
wouldn't run correctly.
There's a lot of boats are noteasy over somewhere else because
the boat wouldn't run correct.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
There's a lot of boats are not easy.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
No, that's why they call them Brendan and I are on
our uh, larger vessel steps,owning a huge boat.
You don't just get a really,really big one.
You got to go up in steps.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Uh, that's not true.
If you're a billionaire, youcan go ahead and do it because
you can also get to pay peopleto take care of it for you as
working individuals.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
we don't just go from owning my first boat.
My first vessel was a 16-foot1960 Cadillac.
An old looks like a John boatkind of.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Is it actually made by Cadillac?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yes, it was actually a Cadillac boat.
Yes, Not to get sidetracked offthe boat situation, we have a
person we're going to bespeaking to today.
His name is John.
I'm not sure if he wants to usehis last name or not.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
We'll let him use his last name if we want.
But he'll be John for now.
I think it'll be good Fictionand artificial intelligence.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Artificial, artificial.
Hey there, john, welcome to thepodcast.
How are you, sir?
Thank you fine.
Thank you all right, so we have.
We're going to sound off here,so you know who's in studio.
We have, of course, my dog,buddy, is in studio.
Um, john wasn't here for theboat talk.
We were talking about boatstuff earlier.
But I'm dan, we have.
(08:59):
Who else we have here?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
uh nick and this is cj, nice to meet you, you too
yeah, what did?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
you mean by fiction?
Because there's a lot offiction out there.
There's like fake stuff.
There's fiction where it's likemade up by other people.
What do you think, cj, of what?
What would you say when I saidfiction?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
uh, fiction makes me think of stephen king or, you
know, fiction novels for themost part, but most movies are
also fiction.
So, okay, that type of stuff.
Yeah, movies are faking mediathat is not of uh, that doesn't
have real background material tocome from fiction.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Uh, there are a couple kinds, you know.
There's like officialliterature, there's pop stuff
that might make it or not.
Uh, yeah, stephen king's huge.
Uh, there's humor within a lotof fiction and there's humor in
these people approaching, youknow, like, uh, are people elite
or snobbish or are they full ofshit or like, how much is there
(09:56):
to be found?
Uh, swinging between uh,high-end stuff and, uh, humorous
.
Uh, there's a character, virgilFlowers.
He's a character of JohnSandborn as the author, like a
state equivalent of an FBI inMinnesota.
Yeah, it's a series.
(10:16):
Virgil Flowers is a series.
Okay, and I read the eighth onetwice.
I think it was like the eighth,like I didn't feel compelled to
go back to number one, but Iliked it enough to read it twice
.
So it's called Virgil Flowers.
He's the main guy in the series.
Like, if you look it up, itjumps out who are you?
(10:39):
I'm a painter, writer,videographer.
Art model, art model, nudewriter, videographer.
Art model, art model, nude.
Yeah, nude.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
we could get into that if you would if you want to
ask about, if you want to talkabout that cj, what do you think
about that?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I mean I've, I've done it, you, whoa, but my wife
is an artist.
My wife, she is an artist.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I've only done it for her and well, I've done it for
strangers quite a lot yeah yeah,nick, how about you nude
modeling?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
I can't say that I've I've partaken would you?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
would you?
How much would it cost to getyou a front, a full?
Let's just go back nudity.
Well, how much does it cost?
For, in fact, keep in mind, Ihave some money so full butt in
view.
I want to get nick, but howmuch does that cost for one
photo?
And what, John?
What do you do with these nudemodels?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
He's the model John's the model.
A photo is worth a thousandwords, so at least a thousand
dollars.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Mine's worth a thousand hairs.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Tell me about that.
Photography is another thing.
Photography is another thing.
I don't do photography.
Okay, just painting, or notjust, but yeah, that's, that's
what my wife does every time hesays my wife, I'm like my wife
she did with the paint brushesand all that and I'm tilting it
to uh drawing in particularbecause I like the quick action
(11:59):
poses rather than the standing.
The same pose for three weeksor whatever yeah, I can't.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That makes sense.
Okay, so nude model was notwhat I thought it was going to
be.
That was just still.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I'm happier when you know it was.
It's not photography.
Was it for like a college, likefor a college class, that you
were?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
mainly it's.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
I am at art institute , maryland institute, so yeah,
how come people who like dopublic nudity and get arrested
for it Don't just go to acollege and be like hey you guys
.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I know like a couple hundred people that uh art model
, but I only know about threeofficial nudists nudist people
well, well, well, they saythat's a bad word nudist.
Well, colony, oh okay, I'm notsure, I don't really care, but
but like they said it's a bad,like you have an ant colony.
You've got this, you know.
(12:56):
Like just a group of nakedpeople, uh, yeah, right, and
they uh so like one of themcomments on it, like how it's
illegal to be outside, but yougo inside the right building,
you're not?
You get, you get paid for ityeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Do you get paid to do the nude modeling when you work
at micah?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
oh, indeed, and it's like a job.
You know, it's a job, that'sincredible how long is the set?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
or is the session normally like an hour, three
hours, I don't know somewhere?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
like six hours, 20 minutes, 10 minutes off.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Okay, give you some time to flex your muscles and
bend your knees and all yeah, doyou like you have pumped
yourself up, or are they likewe're gonna sketch this nasty
looking man?
Is that you know?
Like how?
How do you?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
how I'm kind of I'm not as bony as some guys, I'm
not as fat as some others, soI'm kind of I've got like a lot
of wiggle room.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
That's yeah, I mean I would go now.
Everybody is where do you wantthe right?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
they would love me up there, man, there's more more
to draw.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
now, none of this is official like they're all you.
All types are equal and allEverybody's the same.
But you get different kind offeedback and it's different for
males than it is for females.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I'd rather be a middle-aged male than a
middle-aged female in thisracket any day.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So, nick was your question earlier how much does
it cost to have a nude model?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
What was your question?
That wasn't my question at all,so, like my, my it was more or
less a statement.
It's like you have people whogo around and flash people,
right you know, just imaginesome guy in a trench coat and
underneath his trench coat he'snaked and he walks up and he's
like yeah, yeah well, I thinkit's because you're being
invited, and you're beinginvited to be new.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
But but yeah, you're right, that might be an outlet
for somebody who has flashingtendencies.
You could go and get paid forit, it does make sense.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I think the flasher is actually trying to get their
rocks off, whereas the nudemodel is really just trying to
make a paycheck.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, this is respectable, and you know maybe
show their balls off too.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
So, cjj, if we wanted a female?
Yeah, yeah, there are differenttypes.
There are different types, likethere are some people that I
think kind of get off when otherpeople don't.
Yeah, so how?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
much do you get paid an hour to do that?
What's it's?
That's like 30 now, 30 an hour,or a session that's a pretty
good an hour.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That's not bad.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
That's not bad at all I mean, I guess it's not that
regular of a job, like how manydays a year could you really do
that and get?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
paid how many?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
people?
You know, I guess yeah, but atmicah there's only so many
classes.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
You know, there's a lot of colleges though there are
a lot of colleges, some peoplebounce around between them.
I'm staying with micah uh andI'm enjoying the hell out of
their own the tech capacitiesand the gym and other things
there.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Oh, you get to use their facilities, since you're a
staff.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
They want you to shower first, I guess I mean
he's naked inside of them.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, no, this is incredible stuff, so like I
don't know, Like all theprocesses are tied together.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
So fiction, videography, Like I roll from
the classroom to the gym, to thecomputer lab, it's all kind of
all my life is all tied togetherright now that's really cool,
yeah, what kind of when you sayyou're painting or or do you
ever like I?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I've seen a few things so few things of your
work on the internet a videothat you shot there with some
art artistry uh, tree in thewater, that kind of thing.
Did you want to talk aboutanything?
Did you want to promoteanything that you've done?
That, uh, that people couldlook up?
Who is john?
Let me see his work.
Did you have anything youwanted to promote?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
yeah, john russell, herbert.
Uh can be found under that fullname on uh youtube or facebook.
Yeah, these days, uh, anythingI write and anything video and
even anything painting, it allhas to fit into schedule and
whatever I'm psyched about.
So all I've painted this yearand strong are torso studies of
(16:57):
me with a lat machine, with awhat it's, a lat pull machine.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
A lat latissimus.
What is it?
What is it called Lats?
It's a what?
It's a lat pull machine.
A lat latissimus.
What is it?
What is it called Lats?
It's a muscle.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It's a muscle.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Isn't there a longer name for it, I'm sure there, is,
okay, we get it.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Well, the latissimus dorsi.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I knew it it was inside my brain, but the videos
I the most are a shoulder thruston another machine, and uh, and
, and uh.
So I used to paint mythology,all these kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But these days I'm just feeling anatomy.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Isn't it crazy how you just zoom into one thing
yeah, and then I uh, then likepainterly exploration and the
science comes from that, but itbut, but just using the video
still instead of hiring anothermodel.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Using a video still, where you videotape it and then
you paint the shot of a video,because that way you can choose
the exact one and it's free.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
The exact one.
It's free, I don't have toworry about their feelings and
all of this stuff Very nice.
I don't have to paint somebody.
I don't want to worry abouttheir feelings, all this stuff
Very nice.
I don't have to paint somebodyI don't want to look at.
I don't have to paint somebodyI do want to look at and say
it's professional.
If it's not, I skirt around allthat.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I'm going to just throw one in.
From left field, you ever gethit on while you're doing this
stuff, this nude modeling andstuff.
It's happened, okay.
Does it show Different agegroups?
Speaker 4 (18:21):
this, this, this nude modeling and stuff or like it's
happened, okay, yeah, does itdifferent age groups, different
age groups.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
What was that nick?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I said does it show that you're uh, you're
interested?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
it has usually.
Usually there's no, no heatabout that.
There may even be positivefeelings about that, but yeah, I
was gonna say that's a greatquestion, Nick.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Did it move yeah do you ever say I'm sorry about
that?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Never apologize.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Can you move that person across the room?
So I can't see that person.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It has a mind of its own.
Sorry, it's like a dog's tail.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah, tail, I was going to say that was worth you
coming over for Nick.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I'm so glad we almost lost nick.
He was, uh, he's worked a lothours and uh, I had to wake him
up a lot like 6, 30 or so he was.
I thought I was gonna come overand punch me.
Yeah, no, it's nice, nice tohear, uh, some stuff from an
artist, a fellow artist, johnyou are part of.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
We are extended family, I think, right we're
we're step family, if you willyeah, I said brother-in-law, but
yeah, it's because I guess it'sstep brother or something along
those lines.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Extended family and, um, I mean it's uh, I'm not
gonna be, I'm not gonna beseeing john in any family
parties or anything.
From here on out, we did, uh, Ithink a lot of our stuff in our
lives have separated, but, um,I, I really saw john at the last
event and I said I wanted to,you know, have separated.
But, um, I, I really saw johnat the last event and I said I
wanted to, you know, get, getsome uh info out of them and and
kind of, just, you know, I willbe hearing from you in the
(19:49):
future, as with the podcast.
That's what the podcast is forto keep people in touch, to keep
things moving.
Everybody has to share theiropinions and, um, anything that
you want to share with the world, john, I want you to uh come to
me so we can put that out forthe world.
That's the point of the podcast.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
You started the conversation with keyboard,
which is kind of my fourthmedium, but I do feel it I've
dabbled a bit lately again.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I remembered a long, long time ago you went to my
father's house and you wererecording some keyboard stuff.
That's what John's referring to.
I was asking him about.
You know, have you been writingmusic?
Because I have in my handsright here a bass guitar, so
I've been like learning bassguitar.
I got a wah pedal and a lot ofthe what you hear.
(20:36):
Most of the music, unless it'slike something I also have
created via samples, Most of thestuff that sounds live, it is
live.
It's me playing music in thepast 16 podcasts or so.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
And there's a violinist I want to bring in as
soundtrack on one of my videos.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
There we go, see, everybody's all linked up in
some way, are you?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
meeting them at Micah too.
Do they do music at Micah?
I'm not sure.
I know there's other music.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Well, there are some informal bands and a lot of
music appreciation.
There are tons of musicappreciation and I think on and
off they've exchanged with thePeabody Peabody.
But I met this guy at a partyof a former model.
He's a fiction guy, he's apoetry guy and he's a violinist
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guitarist.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So you want to bring him in on something that you're
writing.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Something like a three-minute video like jazzy
violin.
You're going to have to writeit out for him.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, but this is how art's created.
You start out with ideas.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Jam for a little while.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
John's got in his head something that he wants to
create and this is how it'scoming out.
So a lot of people don'tunderstand that when you're like
, oh yeah, it's this and thatand this and that, that's just
the beginning part of it.
There's a bunch of othervisuals in his head.
So it's incredible stuff.
And now that I know that youknow a violinist, when I'm
writing my music I will be ableto call you, get yourself a
fiddle player.
Uh, I did have a fiddle.
I played with.
The band had a fiddle.
(22:06):
It was phenomenal nice.
This guy.
He was all up and down thescales doing just 16th nose
triplets.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
It's kind of their job, yeah fiddle was so great,
so you said you do.
Uh, you're writing as well yeah, a lot of fiction.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I'm trying not to write about being a painter art
model in baltimore right,because I because I've done
about a thousand pages of that.
But but so I kind of I zone inat the gym, but I'm at the art
institute, but I like, I pretend, like like I'm an old, like
(22:41):
thick jewish cop that's supposedto do crunches.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
What.
But instead of doing hiscrunches.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
He wants to do the shoulder thrust, to slam down
doors.
All right Now.
I'm not technically Jewish andI'm not exactly portly and I'm
not a cop, but like it's justjolting myself into fiction.
I don't have an ex-wife withalimony.
I don't have an ulcer withalimony.
I don't have an ulcer.
That's a plus.
But Officer Katz has all thoseproblems and it's funny to think
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about it but it's also sad.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So it's a good story.
Throw all those problems ontoyour poor character.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
John, we spoke about artificial intelligence.
Did you read that artificialintelligence created all the
generated thing that was on thelast podcast?
Did you read all of that stuffthat the computer created?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Well, I'm not sure.
I found a blurb, but I wasn'tsure if it was.
Yeah, the blurb that was, itdidn't jump out.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Whatever blurb you saw was probably AI generated
because Dan can't write that.
Well, I can't write at all.
I can't write for shit.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
So everything I write is just going to be like duh.
This is exactly what we didboom and that's it.
Everything else, that's alllike the.
I think it started off with our, our ten dollar.
It was the one with our tendollar gift on it that's right,
it said it said when life throwsyou a key chain, ball sack.
Uh, that's how it started.
I swear to, and that was AIgenerated based off of what we
said on the podcast.
So it spoke.
It took the podcast audio andmade it into not a paragraph of
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us, it's not.
It wasn't like a stenographed,you know paragraph.
It was literally a summary ofthat somebody who knew how to
write Shakespeare.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
So you had the AI listen to the entire podcast.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yes, and it created that three-paragraph summary.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's kind of awesome man, it was incredible.
The singularity is coming,though you just watch out.
I know they're going to comethey're going to be.
We're not going to be able toeat without having the computer
make their food for us.
I, for one, can't wait for ourrobot overlords.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
It's going to be pretty cool, but we're going to
be screwed A little Skynet, yep.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, I'm kind of not keen.
I think it's going to destroypeople's souls.
I don't think robots are goingto kill people.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I think that people are soulless in general.
My personal thought.
You know, it is nice to thinkthat there is an outside force,
but yeah, it's not going to killus.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's going to be like have you ever seen the movie
WALL-E?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Oh yeah, that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
There's going to be a bunch of fat, useless human
beings, and the robots are goingto be doing all the work and we
don't do anything but consumeconsume.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
We create.
Create nothing anymore.
Which is what's the point.
We're not going to be able tofake some people better than
others.
Like if somebody lives out ofuh magazine ads it, like if some
wife, somebody's wife, talksabout j-lo all the time, the ai
will be able to uh dictate hersoul and her husband won't even
notice.
Right, but then then somebodyelse might be a little more
complicated, but it's gettingbetter and better, you know yeah
(25:45):
, what really?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
what really scares me is the ai generated voice, uh,
automatic telephone call typesystems that are, you know, like
the stuff that's going toaffect us.
Quicker than all of a sudden,they can reproduce themselves
and take over the world.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
You can't press zero to get a real person anymore.
No, no, it's going to affect usquicker than all of a sudden.
They can reproduce themselvesand take over the world.
You can't press zero to get areal person anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
No, no, it's not even that it's that somebody's going
to be calling you and it'sgoing to sound exactly like nick
and cj, or it'll sound likejohn, and we're not actually
talking to john.
We're we've been talking rightnow to a computer.
You don't even know it john's acomputer.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
John is a computer.
I don't believe that.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
No, that what do you think you shouldn't believe it?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
that's what a robot would say that's what a robot
would say that's.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
That's the shit that really gets me kind of creeped
out.
You don't know if you're evendealing with a human right.
That's what.
That's what really bothers meabout ai.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I don't know if, nick , you have any thoughts on that
yeah, becoming increasingly moredifficult to decipher what is
real and what's fake yeah well,I asked some ai about the
quandary of ai and and it gaveme this long elaborate
diplomatic political answer.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
don't worry about anything, guys, everything's
going to be fine.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
It sounded like a human.
It sounded like a human beingon the tape being political.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
But a human being.
It's so cool.
It's cool, but it's scary.
That's all.
It's very hard to decipher.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
But at some point we're going to get to either
Blade Runner or Star Trek.
Whichever one we're going toget to, uh, either either blade
runner or or star trek,whichever one, but there's going
to be androids, human lookingrobots that have an ai brain.
That's most likely.
I mean, and this main will mostlikely not be within our
lifetime, but it's, it's, it'sin the it's in the hopper so, so
(27:40):
what.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I've been watching on tv, or, I'm sorry, on netflix,
because I don't really have tv,except for whatever's digitally
popping up.
Whenever I turn the tv on,which I hate, it's always the
negative stuff.
I'm just like oh my god, thereare people screaming at each
other, shopping centers andstuff.
I've been watching the show.
I believe it's called ResidentAlien.
(28:01):
It's a very goofy, pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I like it.
It's fun.
I haven't watched the mostrecent season, but I liked it.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
It's goofy and it's got some good.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
What's the guy's name ?
Alan Tudyk.
I'd have to look it up.
It's something, tudyk, but he'sa hilarious actor.
That's what reminds me of theai.
He was also steve the pirateand alan alan t-u-d-y-k tudyk
yeah, uh, yeah, there is noalien here.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Show yourself out.
I don't know.
I just love that kind of stuff.
That it's uh, reminds me of theguy.
That's all I got.
So, john, I just yeah, it'snice to hear from you.
Uh, we do generally keep.
You keep the guests about 15minutes or so um before we.
Well, I'm sure we'll.
We'll be chatting again in thenear future.
Is there anything specificallyyou wanted to say to the 3800 or
(28:53):
so people that are out there inthe world?
Something that you gothroughout your day has nothing
to do with art or nude modelingor anything, and you're like.
I wish I could tell everyonethis.
What is that?
I'll put them on the spot well,uh 3 500 people.
3 800 people who do you?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
well, uh, I live on the county city line okay and
there's a lot of uh, socialdynamism on that line.
I commute one way or the otheracross it all the time.
A lot of outdoors, notinteresting people, some crime,
and I'm feeling it all.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You're feeling the crime.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Well, I don't like it , but I'm also noticing and
feeling good folks trying tohold together.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Who are you feeling in the Senate race?
What about Trone, that guyTrone?
There's Trone versus all Brooks, or also Brooks, something like
that who are going against eachother for the Democratic
nomination.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Are we talking about Maryland Senate?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Maryland Federal Senate yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
And on the Republican side it's Hogan versus this
Robin Ficker guy.
He's a Trumper.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I feel sorry for Hogan, by the way.
Without getting officiallypolitical, he's in a spot Like
no national chance at all in theTrump era.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I think he has a pretty good shot at the Senate.
Of course not, I don't thinkhe's going to win presidency or
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
He's made for this state.
He's made for crossovers andmoderates in this state.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
This is an overall Democratic state and he won
gubernatorial twice.
I could see him taking Senate,but I think Trone has the best
chance to beat him on theDemocratic side.
I see Trone working his anglesyeah, he's all over the tv and
there's little posters up on themedians of roadways different
(30:49):
demographic angles.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
You know playing up one part of the platform for one
demographic versus another.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Yeah, it's um he's, he's, he's politicking.
Real good out thereelectioneering I should.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I almost want to know what he thinks about Donald
Trump.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
John Herbert.
What do you think about DonaldTrump?
John Russell Herbert.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
John Russell Herbert.
What do you think about DonaldTrump?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Well, personally, I don't like him In 30 seconds or
less.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
30 seconds or less.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Well, the Dems gave it to him years ago by dropping
the working class you could saythe white working class, just
the working class.
They became an elitist party,at least in the minds of a lot
of people, and that's how he gothis foot in the door.
That's why McCain or Romneydidn't do it.
So it's a lot of generationalthings happen within this thing
(31:38):
we call right and left.
So, like years ago, you couldbe left as far as managing the
economy, but maybe not talkabout trans issues all the time.
But that's all changed.
Right, it's all kind of lumpedtogether now.
It's lumped together.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
If you don't believe in every facet of it, you're
shunned to the other side orsomething along those lines nick
has a lot of stuff, right, nick?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
he's just staying out of it for nick.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That was a no, that was not 10 foot pole extended
yeah, I don't have anything thatneeds to be shared.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Okay, so I'm getting.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm getting the wrap it up button from.
Uh, wrapping it up here.
So you said Donald Trump forpresident, right?
He did not say that.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I did not.
I said I understand thephenomenon.
I didn't say I'm happy about it.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Comedy show.
Comedy show Good stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I understand the fight, but it's comedy.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It's funny.
Yes, john, that is funny.
It's hilarious, I feel Allright.
Well, that is funny, it'shilarious, I feel All right.
Well, john, we will be speakingto you in the future.
Yes, I will see you.
Let's not lose touch in theworld of this crazy world, and
I'll talk to you when robotswill answer the phone for us,
okay.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Nice talking with you .
Thanks for calling in Nicetalking to you.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yes, thanks.
Okay, see you, man.
Good evening, everybody Take.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
John seems like a pretty good guy, to tell you the
truth.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
The last episode of season one, we had a man that
was a train hopping, homelessperson and whatnot, and he was
good.
Sean, yeah, finds some levelplaying ground with him.
Sean said that what was thestatistic, nick?
How many percent are good?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
96.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
96% of people are good.
Uh-uh-uh, nick, you got 3,800people to talk to.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
What would you like to say about this week?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Don't work as much as I did.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Don't work that hard yeah, don't work overnight into
the afternoon.
He's like what time did youstart work?
I clocked in yesterday at 11.37pm.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Nice.
And then clock out until three,something I was going to say.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Two, and you're dragging him over here to do
this bullshit.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Man.
Come on, Dan, I know I have akey to his house so I could
easily just go in and wake himup.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
You said you were going to dump water on him, or
something along those lines Idid say that water.
I absolutely said I think hewould have probably done some
damage to you if that were tohappen he walked in my house,
everybody dumped water on in hisbed I told him, I wake him up
that is a good reason to clockyou a good one at two or three
o'clock we had an audiblediscussion that I was going to
(34:20):
wake him up and I said I'll makesure you're awake.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
He said OK.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
I don't know if that's what I responded with.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
That's how I felt.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
More of a we'll see and.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I said I will.
Now it's my goal to get him towake up, no matter what, so I
always follow through with mypromises.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Yeah, I pulled up to the house at three, 34.
I said I just pulled up to thehouse and I almost fell asleep
after putting my car in park.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
It's like let me just close my eyes for a second here
.
Yeah, I literally did that.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I had my AC on, I just put it in park Cause like
you don't want to get out of thecar if it's not you know, and
it's like you're like, you feelyour eyes like waver and then
you're somehow still in thelines and you're like, holy fuck
, how long have I been drivinglike that?
and then you get to your thankgod for muscle memory and then
you get into your parking spotand it's like holy fuck, I don't
(35:12):
remember getting off thehighway yeah, I've had days
where I spaced like coming downa road.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
It was like 3 30 am after like a big long, you know
four hour show or something.
And you're driving home and allof a sudden you kind of wake up
and you're looking at, you'redriving, you're in motion and
you wake back up.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
That's scary stuff that's when you're like I gotta
pull over right now.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
This is a long time ago, but there's just some scary
times it keep you up, yeah,yeah, it's your hands.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Keep you chomping on something yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Definitely didn't have sunflower seeds.
I do remember seeing likethat's a wall turning left.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
When I was a smoker, I would stay up by smoking
cigarettes.
That's not the safest thing,because you often just fall
asleep with a lit cigarette inyour hand, nice.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Now you're in an accident and you're on.
how come?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I didn't like.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
She said she was gonna do that.
Yeah, she didn't do it she'slike I got this.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Sure, okay, I'll do that can't trust a woman crispy
currently.
What do we have happening today?
Cj.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
A whole agenda.
You're talking.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Between you and Nick.
You guys both get everythingoutside of my little world.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Right, here's your update for the week.
How about sports?
This sounds a little bit better.
How about sports?
Sports, I can do.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That's the main thing I need from you today.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Recent Orioles news.
We had an awful series againstthe A's.
We lost two of a three-gameseries.
We had a pretty great seriesagainst the Yanks.
We won three out of four.
Kyle, bradish and John Meansare back in the rotation.
Bradish went today, had a greatouting Zero runs allowed.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Zero runs allowed.
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That means there was a zero score when he left the
game oh, okay yeah, and uh,grayson rodriguez is on the il
for some bullshit, rostermanipulation, so bradish and
means could come back andthey're gonna figure out how to
work that out in 15 days.
Uh, they say he's hurt on theil means injury list or whatever
, and uh, he's.
(01:24):
It was like arm soreness.
Anytime I see something aboutsoreness, I know it's bullshit.
You know that's not a realreason to put somebody on the il
.
Um, in other good-ish news,they found the the fifth of six
people that were lost in thebridge.
Uh, disaster, they found fiveof the six.
Yeah, they lost in the bridge.
(01:45):
Disaster, they found five ofthe six.
Yeah, they found like the fifthone yesterday.
Wow, that's incredible stuff,Yep.
So we got one more to find.
Fingers crossed, but you know,hopefully that brings a bit of
closure to the family.
They gave us a an updateschedule.
What broad schedule.
When we're going to have abridge again about 2020, fall of
(02:08):
2028 and 1.9 million billiondollars.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I was gonna say, when you said million, I'm like yeah
, yeah it is?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
is the the goal?
I can tell you from experience,those uh early on schedules
often are not met, but we'll allkeep uh our fingers crossed for
hope right now yeah I'm still.
I'm sticking with my five-yearplan, so I'm thinking 2029,
spring 2029, it's actuallyfinished.
I don't have anything to sayabout the bridge.
I mean, I just saw that on thenews today other than I.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Then I I listened, re-listened to our bridge
podcast and I heard a lot of uherrors in our podcast and I went
you know what?
That's what we knew at thepoint.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Exactly, that was like the two days after it
happened.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Like I'm listening to it, I was like ooh ouch man,
that was way off.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Hey, we're putting ourselves out there.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, I mean we get it.
I hope you guys get it.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
But I'm still.
I did say five years then andI'm sticking with my five-year
schedule.
No, I'm with you on that.
That was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I think we did the best we could.
Yeah, I mean, it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
What's been going on in your life, dan?
Oh my God.
Last time we talked, you weregoing to take your boat out and
your jet skis out that happen,yes I did.
How'd it go man?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I took both jet skis out out and the one jet ski I
was confident was working themout well and it was.
I got it all back to the thingand I put it back on the on the,
got it out and back back all bymyself.
I mean, there's not many peopleout in the water right now so I
probably today.
There is because it's 95degrees out for the first time
ever since last year for thefirst time during this time of
year yeah, this time a long time, probably decades yes it, yes,
(03:45):
it's like the sun exploded today.
I do remember what I was goingto say Go for it.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
The Unified Command, I believe, has hopes to have the
dolly refloated by the 10th ofthis month.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Wow, that's not far away.
That's like next Friday, eightdays away.
Eight days away.
That's not how that goes.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I know it's not far away.
That's like next Friday, eightdays away.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Eight days away.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
That's not how that goes.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I know it's a week.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But yeah, that's incredible, I expected.
Every time I look over I'm likethat thing is still there,
Right, you know?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
they're going to repaint it, change the name of
the thing so they can't get sued.
Oh yeah, they're going to floatthat thing to West Africa and
change the name of it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, repaint the whole.
Thing.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
It'll only take a couple of hours Instead of the
Salvador Nelly it's the PabloPicasso Right.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
They'll never notice.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It is insane stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
How about the other one you said one of them did
very well Jet ski?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So the jet skis I got , so I got back back and forth
with one.
It was great, it was amazing.
And I go on the second one andI get out there on the water and
it just keeps like like dyingoff and I'm like what the hell
it keeps dying off.
And then so I figured outsomething about a little.
You know, I had an air leak andthe gas.
I came back to the dock and fixthat, go back out and I noticed
(05:04):
there's still water cominginside of it.
Oh, that's no good yeah, I justI don't know.
I just don't feel comfortablehaving water come into a boat, a
vessel.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Especially if you're out there by yourself and not
many people around.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, I came back.
I come back and you know I tookoff the jet.
So right now I have one jet skiwith the jet off, but I'm going
to reinstall it with a new ski.
Well, yeah, it's just, it'sjust, uh, it'll has a, I guess a
six inch wide hole where thejet is supposed to go through so
really it wouldn't force air orwater through it would be a ski
(05:38):
until water got all the wayinside gotcha, and then it will
be a sink.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
How about the boat?
Did you get the boat out?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I have not had the boat out.
I'm still working on.
It's a very long I I'm.
I was dealing with the oilchange dilemma.
In order to get to the oil plugyou have to be up to your
shoulders.
Uh, an engine, the bottom ofthe engine has to be at your
shoulder.
It takes me a little bit ofmotivation to get out there to
do this thing to that point yeah, so I'm done.
Plus, you need time to be ableto put it all back together, so,
(06:06):
yeah, I have to take themanifolds off and the muffler,
the exhaust, you know, all thatstuff, whatever, in layman's
terms, the whole exhaust systemthat with the water flowing
through it has to come off.
It's a big mess.
So right now I'm getting readyto reinstall the manifold and
gaskets and exhaust.
Uh, you know, once that's alldone and I can start it up and I
(06:27):
can try to strand nick out inthe water again but you have to
be there so you can save themyeah, yeah, no, I mean like me
and him go out and we get stuckoh stranded together?
yeah, stranded together.
Have we been pulled backtogether?
Nick on the boat?
I've been pulled back on theboat, I just don't know if
you're like there possibly wasone time, but I can't be sure
not on the string.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
They call that string towing I know we towed somebody
before.
I believe it was a chinese ladyand a chinese man ah, that was
on wave runners.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That was on brendan's wave runners, wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
yeah, wait, you were on the wave runners and you
we've towed a boat with the waverunners.
Yes, because I know it's kindof awesome actually.
Yeah we.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We were towing brendan's boat with his wave
runner and so I, I, uh, I thinkI think nick got paid for doing
that right oh, we both did yeah,we both got 25 dollars yeah
from the chinese
Speaker 1 (07:20):
couple.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
It's also something you're having fun doing so oh
man, that's great, you have acouple bucks too brendan got his
boat out there and then histrailer got damaged upon I don't
know.
We had to transport a boat thatwasn't running as well, so he
damaged his trailer, so hecouldn't pull it out, so we had
to tow the boat over tosomewhere else because the boat
(07:41):
wouldn't run correctly.
There's a lot of boats are noteasy over somewhere else because
the boat wouldn't run correct.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
There's a lot of boats are not easy.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
No, that's why they call them Brendan and I are on
our uh, larger vessel steps,owning a huge boat.
You don't just get a really,really big one.
You got to go up in steps.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Uh, that's not true.
If you're a billionaire, youcan go ahead and do it because
you can also get to pay peopleto take care of it for you as
working individuals.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
we don't just go from owning my first boat.
My first vessel was a 16-foot1960 Cadillac.
An old looks like a John boatkind of.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Is it actually made by Cadillac?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yes, it was actually a Cadillac boat.
Yes, Not to get sidetracked offthe boat situation, we have a
person we're going to bespeaking to today.
His name is John.
I'm not sure if he wants to usehis last name or not.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
We'll let him use his last name if we want.
But he'll be John for now.
I think it'll be good Fictionand artificial intelligence.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Artificial, artificial.
Hey there, john, welcome to thepodcast.
How are you, sir?
Thank you fine.
Thank you all right, so we have.
We're going to sound off here,so you know who's in studio.
We have, of course, my dog,buddy, is in studio.
Um, john wasn't here for theboat talk.
We were talking about boatstuff earlier.
But I'm dan, we have.
(08:59):
Who else we have here?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
uh nick and this is cj, nice to meet you, you too
yeah, what did?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
you mean by fiction?
Because there's a lot offiction out there.
There's like fake stuff.
There's fiction where it's likemade up by other people.
What do you think, cj, of what?
What would you say when I saidfiction?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
uh, fiction makes me think of stephen king or, you
know, fiction novels for themost part, but most movies are
also fiction.
So, okay, that type of stuff.
Yeah, movies are faking mediathat is not of uh, that doesn't
have real background material tocome from fiction.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Uh, there are a couple kinds, you know.
There's like officialliterature, there's pop stuff
that might make it or not.
Uh, yeah, stephen king's huge.
Uh, there's humor within a lotof fiction and there's humor in
these people approaching, youknow, like, uh, are people elite
or snobbish or are they full ofshit or like, how much is there
(09:56):
to be found?
Uh, swinging between uh,high-end stuff and, uh, humorous
.
Uh, there's a character, virgilFlowers.
He's a character of JohnSandborn as the author, like a
state equivalent of an FBI inMinnesota.
Yeah, it's a series.
(10:16):
Virgil Flowers is a series.
Okay, and I read the eighth onetwice.
I think it was like the eighth,like I didn't feel compelled to
go back to number one, but Iliked it enough to read it twice
.
So it's called Virgil Flowers.
He's the main guy in the series.
Like, if you look it up, itjumps out who are you?
(10:39):
I'm a painter, writer,videographer.
Art model, art model, nudewriter, videographer.
Art model, art model, nude.
Yeah, nude.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
we could get into that if you would if you want to
ask about, if you want to talkabout that cj, what do you think
about that?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I mean I've, I've done it, you, whoa, but my wife
is an artist.
My wife, she is an artist.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I've only done it for her and well, I've done it for
strangers quite a lot yeah yeah,nick, how about you nude
modeling?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
I can't say that I've I've partaken would you?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
would you?
How much would it cost to getyou a front, a full?
Let's just go back nudity.
Well, how much does it cost?
For, in fact, keep in mind, Ihave some money so full butt in
view.
I want to get nick, but howmuch does that cost for one
photo?
And what, John?
What do you do with these nudemodels?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
He's the model John's the model.
A photo is worth a thousandwords, so at least a thousand
dollars.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Mine's worth a thousand hairs.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Tell me about that.
Photography is another thing.
Photography is another thing.
I don't do photography.
Okay, just painting, or notjust, but yeah, that's, that's
what my wife does every time hesays my wife, I'm like my wife
she did with the paint brushesand all that and I'm tilting it
to uh drawing in particularbecause I like the quick action
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poses rather than the standing.
The same pose for three weeksor whatever yeah, I can't.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That makes sense.
Okay, so nude model was notwhat I thought it was going to
be.
That was just still.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I'm happier when you know it was.
It's not photography.
Was it for like a college, likefor a college class, that you
were?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
mainly it's.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
I am at art institute , maryland institute, so yeah,
how come people who like dopublic nudity and get arrested
for it Don't just go to acollege and be like hey you guys
.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I know like a couple hundred people that uh art model
, but I only know about threeofficial nudists nudist people
well, well, well, they saythat's a bad word nudist.
Well, colony, oh okay, I'm notsure, I don't really care, but
but like they said it's a bad,like you have an ant colony.
You've got this, you know.
(12:56):
Like just a group of nakedpeople, uh, yeah, right, and
they uh so like one of themcomments on it, like how it's
illegal to be outside, but yougo inside the right building,
you're not?
You get, you get paid for ityeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Do you get paid to do the nude modeling when you work
at micah?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
oh, indeed, and it's like a job.
You know, it's a job, that'sincredible how long is the set?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
or is the session normally like an hour, three
hours, I don't know somewhere?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
like six hours, 20 minutes, 10 minutes off.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Okay, give you some time to flex your muscles and
bend your knees and all yeah, doyou like you have pumped
yourself up, or are they likewe're gonna sketch this nasty
looking man?
Is that you know?
Like how?
How do you?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
how I'm kind of I'm not as bony as some guys, I'm
not as fat as some others, soI'm kind of I've got like a lot
of wiggle room.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
That's yeah, I mean I would go now.
Everybody is where do you wantthe right?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
they would love me up there, man, there's more more
to draw.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
now, none of this is official like they're all you.
All types are equal and allEverybody's the same.
But you get different kind offeedback and it's different for
males than it is for females.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I'd rather be a middle-aged male than a
middle-aged female in thisracket any day.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So, nick was your question earlier how much does
it cost to have a nude model?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
What was your question?
That wasn't my question at all,so, like my, my it was more or
less a statement.
It's like you have people whogo around and flash people,
right you know, just imaginesome guy in a trench coat and
underneath his trench coat he'snaked and he walks up and he's
like yeah, yeah well, I thinkit's because you're being
invited, and you're beinginvited to be new.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
But but yeah, you're right, that might be an outlet
for somebody who has flashingtendencies.
You could go and get paid forit, it does make sense.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I think the flasher is actually trying to get their
rocks off, whereas the nudemodel is really just trying to
make a paycheck.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, this is respectable, and you know maybe
show their balls off too.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
So, cjj, if we wanted a female?
Yeah, yeah, there are differenttypes.
There are different types, likethere are some people that I
think kind of get off when otherpeople don't.
Yeah, so how?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
much do you get paid an hour to do that?
What's it's?
That's like 30 now, 30 an hour,or a session that's a pretty
good an hour.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That's not bad.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
That's not bad at all I mean, I guess it's not that
regular of a job, like how manydays a year could you really do
that and get?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
paid how many?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
people?
You know, I guess yeah, but atmicah there's only so many
classes.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
You know, there's a lot of colleges though there are
a lot of colleges, some peoplebounce around between them.
I'm staying with micah uh andI'm enjoying the hell out of
their own the tech capacitiesand the gym and other things
there.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Oh, you get to use their facilities, since you're a
staff.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
They want you to shower first, I guess I mean
he's naked inside of them.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, no, this is incredible stuff, so like I
don't know, Like all theprocesses are tied together.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
So fiction, videography, Like I roll from
the classroom to the gym, to thecomputer lab, it's all kind of
all my life is all tied togetherright now that's really cool,
yeah, what kind of when you sayyou're painting or or do you
ever like I?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I've seen a few things so few things of your
work on the internet a videothat you shot there with some
art artistry uh, tree in thewater, that kind of thing.
Did you want to talk aboutanything?
Did you want to promoteanything that you've done?
That, uh, that people couldlook up?
Who is john?
Let me see his work.
Did you have anything youwanted to promote?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
yeah, john russell, herbert.
Uh can be found under that fullname on uh youtube or facebook.
Yeah, these days, uh, anythingI write and anything video and
even anything painting, it allhas to fit into schedule and
whatever I'm psyched about.
So all I've painted this yearand strong are torso studies of
(16:57):
me with a lat machine, with awhat it's, a lat pull machine.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
A lat latissimus.
What is it?
What is it called Lats?
It's a what?
It's a lat pull machine.
A lat latissimus.
What is it?
What is it called Lats?
It's a muscle.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It's a muscle.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Isn't there a longer name for it, I'm sure there, is,
okay, we get it.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Well, the latissimus dorsi.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I knew it it was inside my brain, but the videos
I the most are a shoulder thruston another machine, and uh, and
, and uh.
So I used to paint mythology,all these kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But these days I'm just feeling anatomy.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Isn't it crazy how you just zoom into one thing
yeah, and then I uh, then likepainterly exploration and the
science comes from that, but itbut, but just using the video
still instead of hiring anothermodel.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Using a video still, where you videotape it and then
you paint the shot of a video,because that way you can choose
the exact one and it's free.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
The exact one.
It's free, I don't have toworry about their feelings and
all of this stuff Very nice.
I don't have to paint somebody.
I don't want to worry abouttheir feelings, all this stuff
Very nice.
I don't have to paint somebodyI don't want to look at.
I don't have to paint somebodyI do want to look at and say
it's professional.
If it's not, I skirt around allthat.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I'm going to just throw one in.
From left field, you ever gethit on while you're doing this
stuff, this nude modeling andstuff.
It's happened, okay.
Does it show Different agegroups?
Speaker 4 (18:21):
this, this, this nude modeling and stuff or like it's
happened, okay, yeah, does itdifferent age groups, different
age groups.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
What was that nick?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I said does it show that you're uh, you're
interested?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
it has usually.
Usually there's no, no heatabout that.
There may even be positivefeelings about that, but yeah, I
was gonna say that's a greatquestion, Nick.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Did it move yeah do you ever say I'm sorry about
that?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Never apologize.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Can you move that person across the room?
So I can't see that person.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It has a mind of its own.
Sorry, it's like a dog's tail.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah, tail, I was going to say that was worth you
coming over for Nick.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I'm so glad we almost lost nick.
He was, uh, he's worked a lothours and uh, I had to wake him
up a lot like 6, 30 or so he was.
I thought I was gonna come overand punch me.
Yeah, no, it's nice, nice tohear, uh, some stuff from an
artist, a fellow artist, johnyou are part of.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
We are extended family, I think, right we're
we're step family, if you willyeah, I said brother-in-law, but
yeah, it's because I guess it'sstep brother or something along
those lines.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Extended family and, um, I mean it's uh, I'm not
gonna be, I'm not gonna beseeing john in any family
parties or anything.
From here on out, we did, uh, Ithink a lot of our stuff in our
lives have separated, but, um,I, I really saw john at the last
event and I said I wanted to,you know, have separated.
But, um, I, I really saw johnat the last event and I said I
wanted to, you know, get, getsome uh info out of them and and
kind of, just, you know, I willbe hearing from you in the
(19:49):
future, as with the podcast.
That's what the podcast is forto keep people in touch, to keep
things moving.
Everybody has to share theiropinions and, um, anything that
you want to share with the world, john, I want you to uh come to
me so we can put that out forthe world.
That's the point of the podcast.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
You started the conversation with keyboard,
which is kind of my fourthmedium, but I do feel it I've
dabbled a bit lately again.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I remembered a long, long time ago you went to my
father's house and you wererecording some keyboard stuff.
That's what John's referring to.
I was asking him about.
You know, have you been writingmusic?
Because I have in my handsright here a bass guitar, so
I've been like learning bassguitar.
I got a wah pedal and a lot ofthe what you hear.
(20:36):
Most of the music, unless it'slike something I also have
created via samples, Most of thestuff that sounds live, it is
live.
It's me playing music in thepast 16 podcasts or so.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
And there's a violinist I want to bring in as
soundtrack on one of my videos.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
There we go, see, everybody's all linked up in
some way, are you?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
meeting them at Micah too.
Do they do music at Micah?
I'm not sure.
I know there's other music.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Well, there are some informal bands and a lot of
music appreciation.
There are tons of musicappreciation and I think on and
off they've exchanged with thePeabody Peabody.
But I met this guy at a partyof a former model.
He's a fiction guy, he's apoetry guy and he's a violinist
(21:22):
guitarist.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So you want to bring him in on something that you're
writing.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Something like a three-minute video like jazzy
violin.
You're going to have to writeit out for him.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, but this is how art's created.
You start out with ideas.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Jam for a little while.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
John's got in his head something that he wants to
create and this is how it'scoming out.
So a lot of people don'tunderstand that when you're like
, oh yeah, it's this and thatand this and that, that's just
the beginning part of it.
There's a bunch of othervisuals in his head.
So it's incredible stuff.
And now that I know that youknow a violinist, when I'm
writing my music I will be ableto call you, get yourself a
fiddle player.
Uh, I did have a fiddle.
I played with.
The band had a fiddle.
(22:06):
It was phenomenal nice.
This guy.
He was all up and down thescales doing just 16th nose
triplets.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
It's kind of their job, yeah fiddle was so great,
so you said you do.
Uh, you're writing as well yeah, a lot of fiction.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I'm trying not to write about being a painter art
model in baltimore right,because I because I've done
about a thousand pages of that.
But but so I kind of I zone inat the gym, but I'm at the art
institute, but I like, I pretend, like like I'm an old, like
(22:41):
thick jewish cop that's supposedto do crunches.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
What.
But instead of doing hiscrunches.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
He wants to do the shoulder thrust, to slam down
doors.
All right Now.
I'm not technically Jewish andI'm not exactly portly and I'm
not a cop, but like it's justjolting myself into fiction.
I don't have an ex-wife withalimony.
I don't have an ulcer withalimony.
I don't have an ulcer.
That's a plus.
But Officer Katz has all thoseproblems and it's funny to think
(23:09):
about it but it's also sad.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So it's a good story.
Throw all those problems ontoyour poor character.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
John, we spoke about artificial intelligence.
Did you read that artificialintelligence created all the
generated thing that was on thelast podcast?
Did you read all of that stuffthat the computer created?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Well, I'm not sure.
I found a blurb, but I wasn'tsure if it was.
Yeah, the blurb that was, itdidn't jump out.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Whatever blurb you saw was probably AI generated
because Dan can't write that.
Well, I can't write at all.
I can't write for shit.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
So everything I write is just going to be like duh.
This is exactly what we didboom and that's it.
Everything else, that's alllike the.
I think it started off with our, our ten dollar.
It was the one with our tendollar gift on it that's right,
it said it said when life throwsyou a key chain, ball sack.
Uh, that's how it started.
I swear to, and that was AIgenerated based off of what we
said on the podcast.
So it spoke.
It took the podcast audio andmade it into not a paragraph of
(24:09):
us, it's not.
It wasn't like a stenographed,you know paragraph.
It was literally a summary ofthat somebody who knew how to
write Shakespeare.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
So you had the AI listen to the entire podcast.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yes, and it created that three-paragraph summary.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's kind of awesome man, it was incredible.
The singularity is coming,though you just watch out.
I know they're going to comethey're going to be.
We're not going to be able toeat without having the computer
make their food for us.
I, for one, can't wait for ourrobot overlords.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
It's going to be pretty cool, but we're going to
be screwed A little Skynet, yep.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, I'm kind of not keen.
I think it's going to destroypeople's souls.
I don't think robots are goingto kill people.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I think that people are soulless in general.
My personal thought.
You know, it is nice to thinkthat there is an outside force,
but yeah, it's not going to killus.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's going to be like have you ever seen the movie
WALL-E?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Oh yeah, that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
There's going to be a bunch of fat, useless human
beings, and the robots are goingto be doing all the work and we
don't do anything but consumeconsume.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
We create.
Create nothing anymore.
Which is what's the point.
We're not going to be able tofake some people better than
others.
Like if somebody lives out ofuh magazine ads it, like if some
wife, somebody's wife, talksabout j-lo all the time, the ai
will be able to uh dictate hersoul and her husband won't even
notice.
Right, but then then somebodyelse might be a little more
complicated, but it's gettingbetter and better, you know yeah
(25:45):
, what really?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
what really scares me is the ai generated voice, uh,
automatic telephone call typesystems that are, you know, like
the stuff that's going toaffect us.
Quicker than all of a sudden,they can reproduce themselves
and take over the world.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
You can't press zero to get a real person anymore.
No, no, it's going to affect usquicker than all of a sudden.
They can reproduce themselvesand take over the world.
You can't press zero to get areal person anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
No, no, it's not even that it's that somebody's going
to be calling you and it'sgoing to sound exactly like nick
and cj, or it'll sound likejohn, and we're not actually
talking to john.
We're we've been talking rightnow to a computer.
You don't even know it john's acomputer.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
John is a computer.
I don't believe that.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
No, that what do you think you shouldn't believe it?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
that's what a robot would say that's what a robot
would say that's.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
That's the shit that really gets me kind of creeped
out.
You don't know if you're evendealing with a human right.
That's what.
That's what really bothers meabout ai.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I don't know if, nick , you have any thoughts on that
yeah, becoming increasingly moredifficult to decipher what is
real and what's fake yeah well,I asked some ai about the
quandary of ai and and it gaveme this long elaborate
diplomatic political answer.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
don't worry about anything, guys, everything's
going to be fine.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
It sounded like a human.
It sounded like a human beingon the tape being political.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
But a human being.
It's so cool.
It's cool, but it's scary.
That's all.
It's very hard to decipher.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
But at some point we're going to get to either
Blade Runner or Star Trek.
Whichever one we're going toget to, uh, either either blade
runner or or star trek,whichever one, but there's going
to be androids, human lookingrobots that have an ai brain.
That's most likely.
I mean, and this main will mostlikely not be within our
lifetime, but it's, it's, it'sin the it's in the hopper so, so
(27:40):
what.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I've been watching on tv, or, I'm sorry, on netflix,
because I don't really have tv,except for whatever's digitally
popping up.
Whenever I turn the tv on,which I hate, it's always the
negative stuff.
I'm just like oh my god, thereare people screaming at each
other, shopping centers andstuff.
I've been watching the show.
I believe it's called ResidentAlien.
(28:01):
It's a very goofy, pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I like it.
It's fun.
I haven't watched the mostrecent season, but I liked it.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
It's goofy and it's got some good.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
What's the guy's name ?
Alan Tudyk.
I'd have to look it up.
It's something, tudyk, but he'sa hilarious actor.
That's what reminds me of theai.
He was also steve the pirateand alan alan t-u-d-y-k tudyk
yeah, uh, yeah, there is noalien here.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Show yourself out.
I don't know.
I just love that kind of stuff.
That it's uh, reminds me of theguy.
That's all I got.
So, john, I just yeah, it'snice to hear from you.
Uh, we do generally keep.
You keep the guests about 15minutes or so um before we.
Well, I'm sure we'll.
We'll be chatting again in thenear future.
Is there anything specificallyyou wanted to say to the 3800 or
(28:53):
so people that are out there inthe world?
Something that you gothroughout your day has nothing
to do with art or nude modelingor anything, and you're like.
I wish I could tell everyonethis.
What is that?
I'll put them on the spot well,uh 3 500 people.
3 800 people who do you?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
well, uh, I live on the county city line okay and
there's a lot of uh, socialdynamism on that line.
I commute one way or the otheracross it all the time.
A lot of outdoors, notinteresting people, some crime,
and I'm feeling it all.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You're feeling the crime.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Well, I don't like it , but I'm also noticing and
feeling good folks trying tohold together.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Who are you feeling in the Senate race?
What about Trone, that guyTrone?
There's Trone versus all Brooks, or also Brooks, something like
that who are going against eachother for the Democratic
nomination.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Are we talking about Maryland Senate?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Maryland Federal Senate yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
And on the Republican side it's Hogan versus this
Robin Ficker guy.
He's a Trumper.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I feel sorry for Hogan, by the way.
Without getting officiallypolitical, he's in a spot Like
no national chance at all in theTrump era.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I think he has a pretty good shot at the Senate.
Of course not, I don't thinkhe's going to win presidency or
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
He's made for this state.
He's made for crossovers andmoderates in this state.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
This is an overall Democratic state and he won
gubernatorial twice.
I could see him taking Senate,but I think Trone has the best
chance to beat him on theDemocratic side.
I see Trone working his anglesyeah, he's all over the tv and
there's little posters up on themedians of roadways different
(30:49):
demographic angles.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
You know playing up one part of the platform for one
demographic versus another.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Yeah, it's um he's, he's, he's politicking.
Real good out thereelectioneering I should.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I almost want to know what he thinks about Donald
Trump.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
John Herbert.
What do you think about DonaldTrump?
John Russell Herbert.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
John Russell Herbert.
What do you think about DonaldTrump?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Well, personally, I don't like him In 30 seconds or
less.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
30 seconds or less.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Well, the Dems gave it to him years ago by dropping
the working class you could saythe white working class, just
the working class.
They became an elitist party,at least in the minds of a lot
of people, and that's how he gothis foot in the door.
That's why McCain or Romneydidn't do it.
So it's a lot of generationalthings happen within this thing
(31:38):
we call right and left.
So, like years ago, you couldbe left as far as managing the
economy, but maybe not talkabout trans issues all the time.
But that's all changed.
Right, it's all kind of lumpedtogether now.
It's lumped together.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
If you don't believe in every facet of it, you're
shunned to the other side orsomething along those lines nick
has a lot of stuff, right, nick?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
he's just staying out of it for nick.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That was a no, that was not 10 foot pole extended
yeah, I don't have anything thatneeds to be shared.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Okay, so I'm getting.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm getting the wrap it up button from.
Uh, wrapping it up here.
So you said Donald Trump forpresident, right?
He did not say that.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I did not.
I said I understand thephenomenon.
I didn't say I'm happy about it.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Comedy show.
Comedy show Good stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I understand the fight, but it's comedy.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It's funny.
Yes, john, that is funny.
It's hilarious, I feel Allright.
Well, that is funny, it'shilarious, I feel All right.
Well, john, we will be speakingto you in the future.
Yes, I will see you.
Let's not lose touch in theworld of this crazy world, and
I'll talk to you when robotswill answer the phone for us,
okay.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Nice talking with you .
Thanks for calling in Nicetalking to you.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yes, thanks.
Okay, see you, man.
Good evening, everybody Take.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
John seems like a pretty good guy, to tell you the
truth.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
The last episode of season one, we had a man that
was a train hopping, homelessperson and whatnot, and he was
good.
Sean, yeah, finds some levelplaying ground with him.
Sean said that what was thestatistic, nick?
How many percent are good?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
96.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
96% of people are good.
Uh-uh-uh, nick, you got 3,800people to talk to.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
What would you like to say about this week?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Don't work as much as I did.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Don't work that hard yeah, don't work overnight into
the afternoon.
He's like what time did youstart work?
I clocked in yesterday at 11.37pm.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Nice.
And then clock out until three,something I was going to say.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Two, and you're dragging him over here to do
this bullshit.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Man.
Come on, Dan, I know I have akey to his house so I could
easily just go in and wake himup.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
You said you were going to dump water on him, or
something along those lines Idid say that water.
I absolutely said I think hewould have probably done some
damage to you if that were tohappen he walked in my house,
everybody dumped water on in hisbed I told him, I wake him up
that is a good reason to clockyou a good one at two or three
o'clock we had an audiblediscussion that I was going to
(34:20):
wake him up and I said I'll makesure you're awake.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
He said OK.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
I don't know if that's what I responded with.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
That's how I felt.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
More of a we'll see and.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I said I will.
Now it's my goal to get him towake up, no matter what, so I
always follow through with mypromises.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Yeah, I pulled up to the house at three, 34.
I said I just pulled up to thehouse and I almost fell asleep
after putting my car in park.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
It's like let me just close my eyes for a second here
.
Yeah, I literally did that.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I had my AC on, I just put it in park Cause like
you don't want to get out of thecar if it's not you know, and
it's like you're like, you feelyour eyes like waver and then
you're somehow still in thelines and you're like, holy fuck
, how long have I been drivinglike that?
and then you get to your thankgod for muscle memory and then
you get into your parking spotand it's like holy fuck, I don't
(35:12):
remember getting off thehighway yeah, I've had days
where I spaced like coming downa road.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
It was like 3 30 am after like a big long, you know
four hour show or something.
And you're driving home and allof a sudden you kind of wake up
and you're looking at, you'redriving, you're in motion and
you wake back up.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
That's scary stuff that's when you're like I gotta
pull over right now.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
This is a long time ago, but there's just some scary
times it keep you up, yeah,yeah, it's your hands.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Keep you chomping on something yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Definitely didn't have sunflower seeds.
I do remember seeing likethat's a wall turning left.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
When I was a smoker, I would stay up by smoking
cigarettes.
That's not the safest thing,because you often just fall
asleep with a lit cigarette inyour hand, nice.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Now you're in an accident and you're on.
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