June 8, 2023 • 42 mins
Tracey Garcia is a mom, entrepreneur, and a make-up artist. Growing up in a military family, Tracey's life has been filled with travel and remarkable encounters with individuals from all walks of life. She has worked behind the scenes in the television industry, providing hair and makeup services for various shows. Additionally, Tracey has had the opportunity to work with influential figures in the political arena, contributing her craft as a make-up artist.
In this episode, Tracey shares anecdotes from her time working on television sets and emphasizes the importance of remaining neutral as an artist, regardless of the political affiliations of her clients. She highlights the ordinary nature of these public figures, revealing that they have lives outside the media spotlight.
The conversation then shifts to Tracey's current work in Jackson Hole, where she has found success in focusing on weddings and photo shoots. She discusses the importance of self-promotion and reinvention in her industry, highlighting the abundance of opportunities available in the area.
The conversation then takes a more personal turn as Tracey opens up about the loss of her husband. She reveals that her decision to move to Jackson Hole was influenced by his love for the area. Despite the pain of her loss, Tracey finds solace in feeling his presence and honoring his memory wherever she goes.
Listen to this episode to discover the behind-the-scenes world of styling and makeup, and gain insights into Tracey's passion for her craft and her ability to find strength in the face of adversity.
Follow Tracey on Instagram @traceygarciamua
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You are tuned into the Jackson hole,connection, sharing, fascinating stories
of people connected to Jackson Hole.
I am truly grateful for each ofyou for tuning in today and support
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I begin today's episode with alittle quote from Jose in Harris.
Tears shed for another personare not a sign of weakness.
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They are sign of pure heart.
and welcome to episode number 245.
My guest today is Tracy Garcia.
Tracy's an artist in an industrywhich might not be on the forefront of
people's minds, which Tracy is goingto share and discuss with you today.
And growing up in a military family,Tracy was familiar with Travel and she
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found herself in an industry which hastaken her to many places around the
world and has met just a wide rangeof remarkably interesting people.
And recently Traci lost the love of herlife and today she's sharing the message
of compassion, kindness, and giving back.
Tracy, thank you for joining me heretoday at the Jackson Hole Connection.
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It's delightful to have sometime to sit down and talk to you.
Thank you very much for having me.
I'm excited.
You are welcome.
we were just chatting a littlebit about, um, how long you've
been here in the valley.
I do want you to share thatwith people, and I love people
sharing where they were born and.
raised and just get a littlebit of background of who you
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are and, where you're from.
So, Tracy, where were you bornand got to grow up as a kid?
I am a military baby, so I wasactually born in North Carolina.
Can.
AM La June.
but once, gosh, I was probablynot even one years old and took
off to California with the family.
I was raised in, um, Dana Point,California up until about 10 years old.
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We went overseas to Okinawa with my dad.
and when we went, you know, leftthere, we went straight to Virginia.
So I went to, middle schooland high school in Virginia.
and, uh, started my career there.
Flew out to loved California,obviously, went back to California,
and then I went to the fashionInstitute, designer merchandising
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in, uh, Cali, and then went back toVirginia to get my license to do hair.
then I became, pardon me,
did you say Kenya?
Virginia, I'm sorry.
Virginia.
Yeah, so I did a lot of back and forth,but went back to Virginia to get my
license to do hair and then, um, startedreally the makeup industry, loving
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the hair industry, but not so much thecoloring and cutting side of the industry.
I was really more into the styling,doing editorial, and that kind of stuff.
So I always tell everybody I'm not a hair.
Quote unquote dresser.
you will not see me ina salon cutting hair.
I'm always behind the scenes,doing, I did television.
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I always worked for Fox News inWashington, DC for 14 years doing
hair and makeup for all the talent.
So, um, I'm usually thebehind the scenes girl.
What an interesting career path.
Yeah, it really has been.
It, it's so much fun.
dad would always say College,college, college, college.
And I did go to the Fashion Instituteand have an as you know, associate's
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degree in fashion merchandising.
But he was always like telling me thatI needed to go to all these universities
and I was always telling him, no,always knew what I wanted to do and
I always knew that I wanted to be in.
A creative field and, and I didn't wannago to college, so, you know, four year
college, so obviously I didn't, but,um, really happy with my career choice
cuz I'm not that person that has to,if I had to sit at a desk with and, and
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or in a cubicle, I'd probably, nuts.
So I'm, I've,
Mm
be creating.
hmm.
And share with us with what youare I, you're behind the scenes.
I am.
and, and like you said with Fox News,has this career you to some travels
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that you never expected that youwould ever have the opportunity to do?
When I first started at Fox, Istarted out doing the evening
show, uh, with Greta Ancestor.
and it was perfect for me cuz I was ableto be with my daughter all day long and
pick up from school and do all that.
And then the first travel wild because Iwent with her to California all the time.
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I don't know, gosh, this is takingeverybody way back, but this was way back
when I first started Scott Peterson trial.
And we would fly to Modesto.
And I, I, I, it was just ahorrific, horrific story.
But that's when my travel started.
it was a fun experience.
Not to, obviously the trial washorrific, but, just being able to travel
with her and be behind the scenes andkind of learning what that aspect was
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with, you know, behind the scenes withthe television and all that stuff.
And, I remember Mark Geus was hisattorney, and he and Greta were really
good friends and on his private planeback to Burbank Airport, which I.
Was on pins and needles cuz I'm not aprivate per, you know, private jet person.
I was scared to death.
and then, you know, travelingquite a bit with Fox News.
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and then that's when I met theCheneys when they were in office and
started doing some stuff for them.
And that, that was the first time whencame out to Jackson for the Cheneys.
I think it was Sean Hannity that wasdoing a interview with, uh, the VP and
then, I started doing, you know, Liz and.
The family and, and, uh, soit's a pretty cool story.
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My, my, my niece graduated fromVirginia Tech and with an amazing
political science degree, shestarted working for the Cheneys.
She now lives here.
she met her husband here and never left.
It's kind of like the story, haveyou noticed people come to Jackson
and they're like, never go backto where they, uh, they were from.
But, um, I, I came here with themand I'll never forget landing
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and just looking around and.
Just mesmerized by the absolutebeauty and, and peacefulness and
bliss and here I am this much later.
That's cool.
Yeah,
ref refresh people's memoryof the Scott Peterson trial.
that was a rough one for me cuz I,you know, I was a mom of a young
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child, but Scott Peterson wasaccused of, murdering his pregnant
wife, all because he was having anaffair with some Instead of leaving
this poor girl, he had to kill her.
he's now in prison, I think, for life.
And, uh, I'll never forget, I was, I waslike, please, let me get in the courtroom.
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Please, let me get in the courtroom.
I gotta see this guy.
Geus was like, okay, fine.
I'll let you in.
And he walked in and he wasso arrogant and so pompous.
And that night, later on, you know, after.
Greta's shown stuff.
People always get together aftershows and kind of just chit-chatting.
He was like, is he guilty?
And I'm like, he's so freaking guilty.
And he tried to give me all theseexcuses of why he wasn't guilty.
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But anyways, he was proven guilty,um, and now he's in prison for life.
And it was just really a sad, sad story.
The poor girl was pregnant and he didsome really bad things and they found, you
know, just horrific, horrific, horrific.
So, There's also goodthings to, to see as well.
But that was like my first travelexperience and that was just super sad.
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But that was a way back when,do you even remember that?
I honestly don't remember theScott Peterson trial and, but
I'm glad you shared with us
Yep.
Little, little Modesto town.
And I just was like, but with her,you know, she did even, I remember
her traveling to, Oh my gosh.
Where did they go?
I didn't go, but uh, she also followedthat poor girl that was missing.
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She was in a teenager.
She was, uh, Aruba.
that poor girl found, was, foundmissing, and I forget that guy's name, a
German name or something, but ended up.
Being guilty too.
This poor, I mean, she, she didfollow some horrific stories.
I didn't get, I didn't go on that one.
I was kind of glad because notall news is horrific, you know?
That is very true.
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Not all, uh, news is horrificand I'm really curious to know.
I mean, I get the part about Jacksonbeing absolutely breathtaking.
Where are some other places that you went?
That were just a remarkableexperience to, to be able to see.
I did see a lot of the United States.
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I was the women for Trump hair andmakeup artists during the, uh, campaign.
Um, and I was on the tour bus with themfrom, oh my goodness, gosh, August,
all the way through the election.
It was pretty cool.
Um, I tell people, I don't wannatalk politics about, you know, the
red, the blue, it doesn't matter.
I'm a hair and makeup art, you know, I'man artist and no, cuz I either, I either
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had like, oh my God, that's so cool.
Or how could you do that?
And you know, it's, I always tellpeople, I kind of take it to this,
guys, if I were a doctor and I hada Democrat or Republican on my table
I didn't like one or the other, I'dstill, I would hopefully save you.
You know what I mean?
Come on.
This is my
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people.
met everyone.
I don't care.
It, that doesn't matter to me.
And I've met a lot ofbeautiful people along the way.
And on that bus I may, I metamazing people and I, adore them.
Laura Trump.
Um, I met, Marla Maples through LauraTrump and I did Marla Maples and
Tiffany, for Tiffany's bridal shower.
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And then for Tiffany's wedding, Ivankahad gifted her with her makeup artist.
So I didn't do Tiffany for the actualwedding, but I did Tiffany for her bridal
shower and Marla for the bridal shower.
And then I did Marla for the actualwedding and it was just extraordinary and
beautiful and you know, they were lovely.
They've always been lovely.
And I always get people that arelike, what's this person like?
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Or what's that person like?
And sometimes I, I, I feel likethey're waiting for some spectacular
gossip thing for me to say, andI don't have anything to say.
First of all, if I did,I wouldn't say anything.
I think that's also why Iget hired people, trust me.
all have good days.
We all have bad days.
I just used to laugh all thetime cause they were like, so
what's Dick Cheney really like?
And I was like, kind of quiet.
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lovely.
Always been kind man of very, you know,very few little words, but when he has
something to say, um, you better listen.
back then the kids were little andI was like, you know, one's crying
because they can't find a cowboy boot.
The other one's crying causethey didn't get an Oreo.
It's not that big of a deal guys.
They're just normal people.
but I do remember when, um,Maya, Olivia was little.
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My daughter, and my niece who nowlives here, Alexandria, we were
actually at the, uh, observatorywhere, uh, they lived in DC then,
um, vice president in, um, Cheney.
And it was just so funnybecause I had to go.
Do their, uh, Mrs.
Cheney's makeup for something.
And my little one was little and I hadto take the girls with me because after
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that we were heading to the beach.
And it was just so funny cuz the VP wassitting on the veranda, like reading a
newspaper or something and my child andmy niece were just running back and forth.
They had
clue.
then fast forward, you know, my niece,uh Goes on to be working for them and
so on, and she doesn't do that anymore.
She works here in Jackson forsomeone else, but it is just a
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pretty cool, full circle, you know?
Everybody's a person in their ownway and they, they live li their
lives outside of what we might see TVor, or Rita in the me in the media.
Yeah, you're right.
for being a, a makeup artist.
And said earlier that you do a lot ofphoto shoots here in, in Jackson, but
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you also do a lot of weddings as well.
I do, I love doing weddings.
I just got here in November and I'mpretty darn proud of myself cuz I
started marketing myself on my own andit's what only May and I have thus far.
17 weddings booked on my own.
and I then met, uh, Jill with theScout guide and I absolutely, um,
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thought it was absolutely necessary.
That's why today I came running in cuz Idid my photo shoot for the scout guide.
But, definitely promoting myself, I'ma huge for promoting and not just.
Here and there to get noticed.
But you should alwaysbe reinventing yourself.
Uh, in my opinion.
Sometimes people do advertisingor, you know, a big shout out for
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some, you know, to get hyped andpromoted, but, For me, I think you're
continuously always should be evolving.
So I'm doing this bigshoot, with the Scout guide.
Um, my Instagram pagehas a good following.
Um, but I, you know, here for, for justgetting here, I'm doing pretty good.
I'm doing some, I'mstarting to get, uh, work.
there's a lot of work here.
I was surprised because when I came hereI knew there would be work, but I thought
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it would take me at least a good year.
And, here I am.
and as you can see, myhair is pretty simple.
Just, just a tad.
just a tad.
What does it take to be, you know, theartist for why somebody's gonna bring you
in versus them just doing it before theyleave the house and just getting ready.
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you mean like an every day or a shoot?
Because I mean, today when we're finished,I have to go do a shoot, and a lot of
people have this vision in their headthat they're gonna look so made up.
Mm-hmm.
that's so wrong to thinkbecause everybody here.
Oh, I just wear a little mascara and Ilike my hair natural and blah, blah, blah.
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I get that.
however, even if I was doing yourmakeup for an ad right now, or you're
going on tv, if you don't have makeupon, the lighting's gonna wash you out.
You're gonna look, you're almostgonna look like you have the flu.
You know what I mean?
The lighting is so intensethat you do need makeup and.
no matter how natural I make you, youstill need to have makeup on For editorial
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television, it's so completely different.
Like right now, I did my shoottoday and I do feel made up, but in
the pictures I saw, you know, thetakebacks, it doesn't look that way.
so again, a lot of brides are like, oh,I want, everybody says they want natural.
Mm-hmm.
And what I find so amusing isthey, they show me a picture.
like that isn't natural.
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You know, they have,everybody's got this vision.
That's why I love to talk to all myclients, whether it's an editorial shoot
or television, whether it's a bride.
my brides and I talk lot.
Um, I wanna see inspiration pictures.
I want to really get to know them becausetheir vision is, I understand their
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vision, but a lot of times, Once we meetand we do a trial run or we talk about
that vision, that vision is very differentbecause people don't really understand
natural, you know, I've had, I've hadbrides go, look, I wanna look like this.
And although it'sgorgeous, it's not natural.
It's very Kardashian.
It's, you know, the hooplaw, the lashes, the a lot.
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So regardless of it being dramatic and ornatural, takes as the same amount of time.
Hmm.
you know, natural is just as hard becauseit's a lot of blending and softening.
It's all about your brushes andthe lighting and, that's why I love
it though, because there's, that'swhere my creative side goes in.
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So the combination between thelights for photography or or
filming and then somebody's natural.
Skin versus having something,applied to their skin to where
you said doesn't get washed out.
is that relationship thatthat really causes the need
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for, for having the makeup?
Well, makeup, I mean, mygosh, we're, we can add.
Color to the skin.
Not everybody's flawless.
I mean, I'd like to say thateverybody's flawless, but you know,
we all have discoloration somewhere.
And it could be, you know, alittle bit underneath the eyes.
It could be a blemish, it could be that.
And you know, sometimes you justwanna look you, you sun kiss.
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I always call it the sun kiss look.
Like sometimes you just wanna look likeyou might have gotten a little vitamin D.
you'd be surprised just like.
a gentleman that's balding, howshiny the top of his head can get,
No, I, I know that's pretty, prettyshiny on top of the balding head.
I
balding adds character.
I love that.
Um, but you know what I mean, like,people just think, and I've seen people,
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especially during, COVID where a lot ofthe podcast, a lot of the zooms were going
on, and I, I would have to tell them.
gotta fix your face and the lightingit, I know how great you look,
but your lighting is horrific.
You look so washed out you knowyour background's horrific.
And you know, there's somany tricks to the trade.
But even on television, there'sthis thing called an uplight.
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I don't know if you've heardof an uplight, but a light.
let's say, uh, I mean, and you canuse it even in a photo shoot just
sitting there, but it's a light thatkinds comes up and shines upon you.
So, a lot of uplighting ison newscasts, um, anchors.
it's a light that comes up and it justlights up the entire, like chin and face.
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And that's why theycall it the uplighting.
But it, it, it's key.
Lighting is key.
And if you don't have good lighting,you know, it's hard because a makeup
artist, we have lights that we bring in,and natural light to me is like the most
perfect light period, but, you can be thebest makeup artist if your photographer
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or if your lighting isn't good, youknow, I've worked with so many people
and it's actually a nice thing that,uh, a lot of people are like, we didn't
even have to Photoshop anything you did.
You know what I mean?
that's
pretty cool.
That's a nice compliment.
I had a photo shoot few years ago whereI had, head shots done and I have this
one spot on my head that is blank.
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It looks like somebody peeled a,a tire and it wore it away the
photographer had to fill it in.
But I, I'm curious to know, you mentionedit's all about brushes and other,
you know, materials that you have.
What does your toolkit look like that youtake for photo shoot to prepare somebody?
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Wow.
I have a very large rolling kit.
I have a hair kit, um, and my kit.
As far as makeup goes, has so manydifferent products, so many different,
brushes, you know, everybody's like,I don't just use one particular
product or one particular brand.
I have so many different products,so many different brands.
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when I was a trainer for Mac backin the day, and down the East Coast.
I love to this day, I do likecertain Mac products just cuz I know
exactly how it's gonna look and read.
as far as like their lip liners andtheir lip glosses, of their blushes.
But my, my brushes areMac, you know, other makeup
artists, uh, you know, I have.
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everybody.
I think a true makeup artist hasan, as, an assortment of so many
different, you know, Tom Ford?
I love that.
Tom Ford's Foundation.
I love, um, pat McGrath.
Uh, it's just the, the,the list goes on and on.
Charlotte Tilbury, I mean, Ihave a little bit of everything.
Same with my brushes.
There's a makeup artist, um,makeup art, his name is Ariel.
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He does, um, Kylie all the time.
Like that's her, that's her go-to.
He's got beautiful brushes.
My daughter gifted those to me.
So if you opened, if you saw my kit, youwould probably just be almost overwhelmed.
You know?
It's like a kid in a candy shop,like where, what do you do?
Where do you go to?
I mean is, does this look like,you know, the Craftsman toolkit
that stands five feet tall?
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It's pretty tall because well, myhair kit actually fits on top of it,
so if I'm traveling I can disconnectthe hair kit and put it above.
there just packages or packetsinside my kit that are like
one, one hole if you will.
It's, it's actuallylike a little zuka bag.
It's a brand, but um, hasnothing but lip stuff.
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And the next bag has nothing butfoundations and concealers for light skin.
The next has founda foundationsand colors for dark skin.
I have.
all my brushes are kind of categorized,you know, with powder and, and,
and concealer or what have you.
Then I have another bagwith mascara, wands and lip.
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I, I mean, you, think you'd probablylook at it and go, okay, wow.
It, it looks,
Hi.
it's, it's, and, and it takes yearsto, get all this stuff, you know?
It just doesn't happen overnight.
you start slowly and, and that,that's, and you build your kit.
That's how you build your career too.
You build your kit,
it's.
how do you think people feel whenyou're having the consultation and
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then they tell you what they, whatthey're looking for, and then.
come the day of, of your artistry.
How do you think peoplefeel when, when you're done?
I think they feel fabulous becauseI want them to feel like just an
enhanced version of themselves,
Mm-hmm.
you know?
That's one thing that I love aboutthis job is, you know, everybody's
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got beauty and we're all, you know,we're all unique, we're all different.
But for me, I just wanna enhance,know, we, I, especially my brides, I
always say, you know, you don't wannawalk down the aisle and have people
turn and, you know, see you comingdown the aisle and go, who is that?
and you want your groom to lookat you and just be like, wow.
You know, that's why the groom, youknow, you wanna see those tears.
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You wanna see the joy andyou want somebody to feel
absolutely good about themselves.
and that's a lot of times why,uh, you know, whether it's photo
shoots not so much, but a bride,we do talk about her look that day
it's really important we nail it.
and I've been pretty,pretty darn lucky thus far.
I've probably done over athousand weddings in my life.
know, I do have a page on the Knot rightnow, and I have over a hundred pictures of
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my brides and the most beautiful reviews.
And the coolest thing about my brides ora lot of my clients is then we've become
friends and now they're all having babies.
And it's just pretty cool becausenot only are they my brides or
my clients, we become friends.
And um, that's, that's areally, really neat thing.
That is, um, really cool to have.
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. Those clients become friends overtimes and you get to how their life is
progressing and growing and changing.
Yeah.
beautiful.
And that's how I do get a lot ofmy brides, obviously I've just
moved here, so, that, that'sgonna have to come with time.
But, back in DC and Miami and all theseplaces, a lot of my brides were referrals.
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just, you know, oh my God, youdid my girlfriend and I love, oh
my God, can you do my wedding?
That kind of thing.
And
Mm-hmm.
think that's such a coolthing because they noticed
well, apparently so.
I mean, the best compliment anybodycan give you is a referral, isn't it?
absolutely.
Yeah.
Well, Tracy, we're gonna take a quickbreak to get a word from one of our
sponsors and then we will be right back.
Tracy, welcome back to theJackson Hole Connection.
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I'm enjoying this timeto get to speak with you.
You're the first professional, actuallythe first makeup artist that I've had on
the show, and you're certainly the firstmakeup artist that I've ever spoken to.
And it's a business and a world thatfor me, being a guy I'm just not in.
You do stuff for?
For TV and, and for filming.
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I'm not on tv.
I have the face for radio, which is whyI do a podcast and not a video cast.
with the people that you're workingwith or what you're trying to get
accomplished, how do you stay currentand relevant with how, Fashion changes.
Fashion is always changing.
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And you know what I like is, um,a lot of times, I can't remember
who said it, it was a designer.
There's really no such thingas what's trending right now
Hmm.
if you, especially here in Jackson.
Jackson there, there's a particular look.
You don't really see people walkingaround like they're in New York City.
So to me, like.
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I don't really, uh, I, I'm not so sureI'm really into that whole trending thing.
I think evolving, of knowingwhat's going on with the times.
I, I, I like this town too because,you know, you've got your hippie
dippies, you've got, you know, somefancy people that like to like, Be
dolled up and you got your skiers,you got your, you know what I mean?
That's one thing.
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But even like back in DC you dohave a lot of political types.
So they have a particular look.
Then you, you know, you think about likeNashville, there's musicians everywhere.
It's the new, it's the new Hollywood.
Then you go to Miami, it'sa totally different look.
So, um, hopefully I'm making sense toyou right now, but when people say trend,
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I, I don't know about the trend so much.
It's just evolving, kind of knowing,knowing your audience, knowing
your canvas, knowing that person.
I, I like it when people havetheir own style, their own vibe.
That to me is fashion.
That to me is that to me is style.
You know, we can all go to acertain store and go to Isle,
blah, blah, blah, and buy the samesweater by the same, what have you.
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But when people have their ownand their own vibe, roll with it.
And that's another reasonwhy I get to know my clients.
It's cool to understand who they are,their personality, and then we click and
we come together with a really cool look.
I've never been to Miami.
What?
What is that like in the worldof what you would see somebody
moving around every day.
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Miami's a whole different vibe andI always tell people like literally
like Fort Lauderdale and Miami.
30 minutes apart.
Okay.
different scene.
Miami, I.
Loud music, the clubs physical.
I mean, not that everybody, I mean,even here in Jackson, I, my eyes
usually bulge outta my head becauseeverybody here is just so physically fit.
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Too different kind of fit.
Like you got your skiers and youryogas and your, all that Miami I'll
never forget when I went to Miami andI just threw on my workout clothes
and I went to the grocery store andI'm looking around going, where am I?
They are dulled up, hairdone, makeup on, nails done.
I mean, it's, it's wild.
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You know?
And they, and, and they go out at.
11 o'clock at night and they're like,oh, good God, I've been in bed for hours.
Um, it's just a different scene.
most people are, when theyleave Miami, they're like, Ooh,
it was fun, but I'm exhausted.
you got your clubs, you got youramazing restaurants, you've got
your beautiful ocean skyline.
It's very beautiful, butit's just totally different.
Totally different.
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And you better speak Spanish if youwanna do like the career I had, I
remember, um, uh, vin, it's, it's atelevision station and Vela is their
soap operas all of them do full coverage.
You're not even allowedto see a freckle on air.
And so I did a lesson fortheir makeup artists There.
I had to have a person translating cuzuh, I mean I have little people are
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like, Garcia, you should speak Spanish.
But my beautiful husband who Ijust lost in August, um, was Cuban.
I'm sorry to hear of, of your loss.
Thank you.
He was my angel.
And there was another reason why I'm here.
This is one of his favorite places.
So the two of you had timeto travel here together.
Yes.
he came here.
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Um, my niece Alexander wasmarried here on New Year's Eve,
and he absolutely loved it.
What's funny is being Cuban, you'dthink he was just an ocean, ocean man.
But, his boys were little, healways took them to, uh, Tennessee,
which I thought was so cool andthey'd go camping and so on.
But, he came out here and he fell inlove with it and uh, I promised him that
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I would honor him and I am starting allover and it's pretty darn and scary.
But it's okay cuz he's right here with me.
I feel his presence.
That's beautiful that, you, you made themove to bring his soul a along with you.
Wherever I go.
Yeah.
So was he born in Cuba and,and immigrated here to the us?
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Yes.
He was actually born in Cubaand went, came to the United
States when he was three.
literally with.
What they had the shirts on their back.
it's a pretty cool story.
His, uh, his mother's brother wasone of the first that came over
on a raft from Cuba and was oneof the very first ones to make it.
And I don't know, a lot of people don'tknow this, but if you do, excuse me.
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Um, but his uncle was, 10 feet fromreaching the sand some people started
running towards him to get him.
And that's a big no-no.
He actually had to be the first personto be put his foot on soil and he did.
Um, and his raft is actuallyin a museum in Miami.
It's a pretty cool story,but yeah, they, yeah,
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So the people running towards him couldhave disrupted him being able to, um,
ask for asylum.
Yeah, he, he had to get out of thatraft and touch soil and, you know,
people were so excited they weretrying to help him, but it was like,
you know, you need to be off thatraft and have your foot on the ground.
Foot on the ground.
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Yeah.
Wild.
It was, it's an amazing story.
Is.
And did you go to Cuba with him?
Did you guys ever go back to Cuba?
no
No.
nom.
We, um, we would've loved to.
it's funny cuz his name was, um, JoseManuel Garcia and here I am, Tracy Garcia.
And uh, when I would travel withhim it would just become hilarious
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cuz I was like, obviously you'vebecome TSA approved and stuff.
But I was like, oh my God,I'll see you on the airplane.
There must be a thousand Jose Garcias.
And it was always him, youknow, getting checked and.
It was always an ongoing joke,but no, we didn't go back for
a, a lot of different reasons.
you know, safety and
it's, you know, people havegone and said it's beautiful.
It's still like back in whatthe fifties or what have you.
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But I don't think it was abright idea for us personally.
And at what point does somebody decide?
let's, that they would want a makeupartist outside of a wedding or, you
know, being on TV or being filmed.
gosh, sometimes peoplewant makeup just to go out.
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Feel good.
They don't know how to, a special birthdayanniversary, you know, out on the town
doesn't always have to be, doesn'talways have to be something or wedding,
some people wanna make up lesson.
Some people are stuck in a rutand wanna do something different
and they've been doing the samething forever and they just wanna.
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Have me, uh, come over and go throughtheir stuff and tell 'em what they should
be using, what they shouldn't be using.
people have products in theirdrawers and it blows me away
that they've had for years.
And I'm thinking to myself,that's probably not so smart.
Hmm.
know, down to a mascara, you shouldnot be using a mascara that's that
old, that's just so many things.
Or they don't have the right colors.
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They don't have the right shades.
They just hadn't, didn't have theproper, informative, you know, help.
So would you say thatyou do coaching as well?
Yeah, I've given lessons.
lessons are fun though.
Be they, some people arelike, oh, that's too scary.
But I'm like, I can't do your makeup.
And then say, okay, do it yourself.
So what I'll do is I'll gothrough all their stuff.
We'll talk about stuff.
We might have to order products,but I'll do one half of their
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face and make them do the other.
Mm-hmm.
there's a guideline for them.
because if I just do it, how are theygonna, you know, there's trial and
error, you're gonna learn and, but I'mstanding there literally watching them
and saying, look at the other eye.
Look at your eye.
You know, and I'm themhow to use their brushes.
Some people just aren't evenusing their brushes properly.
again, a world that Inot much, experience in.
(31:15):
So this is.
All really fascinating to me.
you learning stuff today?
I am,
All right, I love that.
I love that.
I, Tracy, I try to learnsomething every day.
ditto, ditto.
If, if I can learn something neweach day, I've done myself a little
service because then I'm, I'mkeeping my brain fresh and active
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I agree.
agree.
I.
I think that's so important todo and with what you're doing.
I mean, some of it's for professional,but also it's to help people
have a, to feel a certain way,which sometimes people need that.
Oh man, I've donated my time,um, back in DC uh, make a Wish.
Wow.
(31:59):
You know, so.
a joy make a child's dream come true.
One little girl wanted to bea princess each news anchor.
were at different museums and incool places in DC and at the end of
her special day, she was obviouslya princess, uh, right there.
I believe it was right offConstitution or Pennsylvania Avenue.
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They had a cute little pony, butthey made the pony into a unicorn.
I mean, those are thethings that bring such joy.
and you know, that little angel,all she wanted was to be a princess.
And those kinds of thingsreally, truly gave me joy.
I love doing that.
I love giving back.
And hopefully as I learn more aboutbeing here in Jackson, um, I, I'd
love to do more of that as well.
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oh, there's no shortage of organizationsto work with to be able to give
back to the community in this town.
I, I, learning a lot of that and I'mmeeting so many wonderful people.
it's, it's the perfect place for me.
That's one of the tenants that hasallowed people to survive for so many
years here before Jackson has growninto what it is Now, if you didn't have
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people to rely on and you weren't one ofthose people that helped other people,
This was a very, very, it was tough,even with that support, but without that
support and offering back to everybody,it was a tough, tough place to be.
may I ask how long you've been here?
I've been here for 25 years now.
go.
Mm-hmm.
I, uh, I wish the first time I steppedfoot here in Jackson, I would've like
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bought a little land or something,because now everybody's like, what
are you going to do out there?
How is gonna, is it sustainable?
All these things.
And you know, when I lost my husband, Ialways said by day, I think everybody,
obviously I don't think people shouldjust live vicariously and just, you
know, wing it, but I certainly alsothink like, eat the piece of pizza.
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Go on the vacation.
Tomorrow's not promised.
You know, he, the way he was, youknow, and I don't wanna talk about
that so much, is just the way he wastragically, you know, suffered for
seven months for, on his, for his life.
Long story short, just so youkind of understand my background.
He didn't feel good.
Took him to the hospital.
They found a little mass.
They removed the mass they gave him Covid.
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Yeah.
seven months later, was surroundedby his beautiful loved ones.
But when you love somebodythat hard, you also have to
love 'em enough to let 'em go.
Mm-hmm.
And we.
we did everything we could to keephim here, but wasn't his time.
But uh, like I said,people are like, what?
Why Jackson?
I'm like, he's one of my why's.
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Mm-hmm.
. Well, thank you for sharing that personalside and, and very personal story.
it, it takes a lot to open up.
It does, but you know what?
I just want people to know that whenthey see my Instagram page or see
me half the time, I'm in my workoutclothes with my hair on top of my head.
You know, we're only human.
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We're all, together.
We all have pain, we all have hurt.
I think a lot of times people see,um, Instagram page and it's glorified.
and,
know, I'm just living the real deal here.
Uh, every morning I get up and I, I lookoutside and I see snow king and I say my
little prayers and I'm thankful and I havebeautiful kids and a beautiful, beautiful
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angel granddaughter, and I choose to doit, and I chose to do it for him too.
Um, and I think we allhave, we all have something.
None of us agree.
I, I always say, you know, none ofus are getting outta here alive,
So true.
It's so true.
And my biggest thing I think I'velearned from this is compassion,
love, kindness, giving back.
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you know, sometimes we just forgetthat that person walking down the
street might be in pain or suffering.
So if I can do that,in, I'm good, I'm happy.
And if I live in a little apartment forthe rest of my life, because I can't
fit can't afford my, you know, I, I am.
Sad that I never bought property hereyears and years ago, but you look
around and you're like, well, they'redoing it so I'm gonna do it too.
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You know?
No, everybody comes hereand doesn't wanna leave.
There is a reason for that.
Right.
Mm-hmm.
. Now, since you have been here since andexperience one of the, I'd say in the
past, my past 25 years, one of the longerwinters and cooler springs for sure.
I do not ever recall the amount ofsnow that we still have on Snow King.
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And today is May 15th when you andI are, are speaking, um, that there
is that amount of snow on there.
What are you looking forward to?
In the next few monthsbetween now and and winter.
Oh my God.
I have said I am going to, Imean, yesterday after Mother's
Day brunch, we went on a fourmile walk and it was just amazing.
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And, you know, just, just seeingthe animals too, like just
obviously in my car, but I.
That to me is so cool.
But I wanna hike.
I wanna learn how to fly fish.
it's funny cuz there wehave this on ongoing joke.
Like, I wanna do this, I wanna do that.
I wanna, um, I wanna, I wanna kayak,I wanna do every, I wanna cycle.
I just wanna get out there and do it.
And I mean, when pe, if peoplehaven't been here and then,
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then they come, they get why.
I've had family visit and theyjust like their jaws drop.
I wanna get out there.
I wanna, you know, breathethis beautiful, fresh air.
There's a reason why we're all here and, Imean, all you have to do is look outside.
It's.
the outside and, and then it's the people
the giving heart like you have
You know,
that, um, make it a great community.
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I appreciate that.
I, I, I really, I.
Really do love it here.
I love the people.
I love the small town vibe.
funny story, I had to go to Idaho Fallsto take my dog ticket groomed because
no one had an opening here for months.
And I was like, well, she'sgonna look like a bear.
So we, we went and I could you not, wasin Hobby Lobby for two and a half hours.
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I have, I just stumbled in there and Ithought to myself, back east, I would've
been able to like go inside a Michael's ora Hobby Lobby and grabbed what I needed.
I was just like, it was likeso cool to me that I was so
into Hobby Lobby and then they
me and they're like, your dog's ready?
I'm like, oh my God, Ihaven't gone to Costco.
Or all those things that we just takefor granted somewhere else, know?
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it's there, it's smackthere, and that's not here.
You know, we have the targethere and we have, but it's,
it's such a different vibe here.
That you really, you really learn toappreciate and, I just, everybody
that hears that story thinks it'sso funny cuz it's only Hobby Lobby.
And you would've thought that I waslike at, you know, Nordstrom's for
or something.
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But it was just really cool.
Yeah, I, I think when you're here,you don't realize what you don't
need, but then when you go into aplace where, There's everything in
community where there is all that stuff.
Then it's like, oh, look atwhat I can, what is here?
And, but you find a wayto survive without it.
absolutely
Yeah.
(38:54):
So Tracy, a a few departingwords of wisdom from you.
What would you like to sharewith people to think about?
As they move on continue living theirdaily life, that somebody can think about
Oh wow.
you're putting me on thespot here, aren't you?
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You know, I, I, I feel like I'm justputting myself on that preach thing again,
but I, I'm really a place in my life now.
when you, when you go through suchhard times, it's, it's like sometimes
people complain about the dumbest stuff,and I say this to my daughter now.
We always talk about this.
If somebody's having a bad day orsomebody's complaining or something didn't
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go right, I'm like, it have a heartbeat?
Is it that big of a deal?
Mm-hmm.
Did it have a heartbeat?
You know, it's just that simple to me.
You, you, you know, uh, just be kind.
that person a smile.
I find that a lot here in Jackson, notso much back on the dc uh, you know,
DC uh, scene and stuff like that.
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But hopefully more and more peoplewill just be coming together
more and, um, share what we have.
And it's, we're all really here andsharing what we have in the same
boat, you know, no one's better.
I, I, I love people here that areliving in a tiny little shack to a.
8 million home.
Don't care.
Really don't care.
I don't care what you came from.
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I don't care what you have.
I, I care about your heart.
That's a beautiful statementand a, and a lovely way to end,
Oh,
today,
I so appreciate it.
Tracy,
I appreciate you having me.
It was really fun.
Thank you.
I enjoyed talking to you today.
Thank you.
you.
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I begin today's episode with alittle quote from Jose in Harris.
Tears shed for another personare not a sign of weakness.
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They are sign of pure heart.
and welcome to episode number 245.
My guest today is Tracy Garcia.
Tracy's an artist in an industrywhich might not be on the forefront of
people's minds, which Tracy is goingto share and discuss with you today.
And growing up in a military family,Tracy was familiar with Travel and she
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found herself in an industry which hastaken her to many places around the
world and has met just a wide rangeof remarkably interesting people.
And recently Traci lost the love of herlife and today she's sharing the message
of compassion, kindness, and giving back.
Tracy, thank you for joining me heretoday at the Jackson Hole Connection.
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It's delightful to have sometime to sit down and talk to you.
Thank you very much for having me.
I'm excited.
You are welcome.
we were just chatting a littlebit about, um, how long you've
been here in the valley.
I do want you to share thatwith people, and I love people
sharing where they were born and.
raised and just get a littlebit of background of who you
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are and, where you're from.
So, Tracy, where were you bornand got to grow up as a kid?
I am a military baby, so I wasactually born in North Carolina.
Can.
AM La June.
but once, gosh, I was probablynot even one years old and took
off to California with the family.
I was raised in, um, Dana Point,California up until about 10 years old.
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We went overseas to Okinawa with my dad.
and when we went, you know, leftthere, we went straight to Virginia.
So I went to, middle schooland high school in Virginia.
and, uh, started my career there.
Flew out to loved California,obviously, went back to California,
and then I went to the fashionInstitute, designer merchandising
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in, uh, Cali, and then went back toVirginia to get my license to do hair.
then I became, pardon me,
did you say Kenya?
Virginia, I'm sorry.
Virginia.
Yeah, so I did a lot of back and forth,but went back to Virginia to get my
license to do hair and then, um, startedreally the makeup industry, loving
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the hair industry, but not so much thecoloring and cutting side of the industry.
I was really more into the styling,doing editorial, and that kind of stuff.
So I always tell everybody I'm not a hair.
Quote unquote dresser.
you will not see me ina salon cutting hair.
I'm always behind the scenes,doing, I did television.
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I always worked for Fox News inWashington, DC for 14 years doing
hair and makeup for all the talent.
So, um, I'm usually thebehind the scenes girl.
What an interesting career path.
Yeah, it really has been.
It, it's so much fun.
dad would always say College,college, college, college.
And I did go to the Fashion Instituteand have an as you know, associate's
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degree in fashion merchandising.
But he was always like telling me thatI needed to go to all these universities
and I was always telling him, no,always knew what I wanted to do and
I always knew that I wanted to be in.
A creative field and, and I didn't wannago to college, so, you know, four year
college, so obviously I didn't, but,um, really happy with my career choice
cuz I'm not that person that has to,if I had to sit at a desk with and, and
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or in a cubicle, I'd probably, nuts.
So I'm, I've,
Mm
be creating.
hmm.
And share with us with what youare I, you're behind the scenes.
I am.
and, and like you said with Fox News,has this career you to some travels
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that you never expected that youwould ever have the opportunity to do?
When I first started at Fox, Istarted out doing the evening
show, uh, with Greta Ancestor.
and it was perfect for me cuz I was ableto be with my daughter all day long and
pick up from school and do all that.
And then the first travel wild because Iwent with her to California all the time.
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I don't know, gosh, this is takingeverybody way back, but this was way back
when I first started Scott Peterson trial.
And we would fly to Modesto.
And I, I, I, it was just ahorrific, horrific story.
But that's when my travel started.
it was a fun experience.
Not to, obviously the trial washorrific, but, just being able to travel
with her and be behind the scenes andkind of learning what that aspect was
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with, you know, behind the scenes withthe television and all that stuff.
And, I remember Mark Geus was hisattorney, and he and Greta were really
good friends and on his private planeback to Burbank Airport, which I.
Was on pins and needles cuz I'm not aprivate per, you know, private jet person.
I was scared to death.
and then, you know, travelingquite a bit with Fox News.
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and then that's when I met theCheneys when they were in office and
started doing some stuff for them.
And that, that was the first time whencame out to Jackson for the Cheneys.
I think it was Sean Hannity that wasdoing a interview with, uh, the VP and
then, I started doing, you know, Liz and.
The family and, and, uh, soit's a pretty cool story.
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My, my, my niece graduated fromVirginia Tech and with an amazing
political science degree, shestarted working for the Cheneys.
She now lives here.
she met her husband here and never left.
It's kind of like the story, haveyou noticed people come to Jackson
and they're like, never go backto where they, uh, they were from.
But, um, I, I came here with themand I'll never forget landing
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and just looking around and.
Just mesmerized by the absolutebeauty and, and peacefulness and
bliss and here I am this much later.
That's cool.
Yeah,
ref refresh people's memoryof the Scott Peterson trial.
that was a rough one for me cuz I,you know, I was a mom of a young
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child, but Scott Peterson wasaccused of, murdering his pregnant
wife, all because he was having anaffair with some Instead of leaving
this poor girl, he had to kill her.
he's now in prison, I think, for life.
And, uh, I'll never forget, I was, I waslike, please, let me get in the courtroom.
(06:38):
Please, let me get in the courtroom.
I gotta see this guy.
Geus was like, okay, fine.
I'll let you in.
And he walked in and he wasso arrogant and so pompous.
And that night, later on, you know, after.
Greta's shown stuff.
People always get together aftershows and kind of just chit-chatting.
He was like, is he guilty?
And I'm like, he's so freaking guilty.
And he tried to give me all theseexcuses of why he wasn't guilty.
(07:01):
But anyways, he was proven guilty,um, and now he's in prison for life.
And it was just really a sad, sad story.
The poor girl was pregnant and he didsome really bad things and they found, you
know, just horrific, horrific, horrific.
So, There's also goodthings to, to see as well.
But that was like my first travelexperience and that was just super sad.
(07:21):
But that was a way back when,do you even remember that?
I honestly don't remember theScott Peterson trial and, but
I'm glad you shared with us
Yep.
Little, little Modesto town.
And I just was like, but with her,you know, she did even, I remember
her traveling to, Oh my gosh.
Where did they go?
I didn't go, but uh, she also followedthat poor girl that was missing.
(07:44):
She was in a teenager.
She was, uh, Aruba.
that poor girl found, was, foundmissing, and I forget that guy's name, a
German name or something, but ended up.
Being guilty too.
This poor, I mean, she, she didfollow some horrific stories.
I didn't get, I didn't go on that one.
I was kind of glad because notall news is horrific, you know?
That is very true.
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Not all, uh, news is horrificand I'm really curious to know.
I mean, I get the part about Jacksonbeing absolutely breathtaking.
Where are some other places that you went?
That were just a remarkableexperience to, to be able to see.
I did see a lot of the United States.
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I was the women for Trump hair andmakeup artists during the, uh, campaign.
Um, and I was on the tour bus with themfrom, oh my goodness, gosh, August,
all the way through the election.
It was pretty cool.
Um, I tell people, I don't wannatalk politics about, you know, the
red, the blue, it doesn't matter.
I'm a hair and makeup art, you know, I'man artist and no, cuz I either, I either
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had like, oh my God, that's so cool.
Or how could you do that?
And you know, it's, I always tellpeople, I kind of take it to this,
guys, if I were a doctor and I hada Democrat or Republican on my table
I didn't like one or the other, I'dstill, I would hopefully save you.
You know what I mean?
Come on.
This is my
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people.
met everyone.
I don't care.
It, that doesn't matter to me.
And I've met a lot ofbeautiful people along the way.
And on that bus I may, I metamazing people and I, adore them.
Laura Trump.
Um, I met, Marla Maples through LauraTrump and I did Marla Maples and
Tiffany, for Tiffany's bridal shower.
(09:31):
And then for Tiffany's wedding, Ivankahad gifted her with her makeup artist.
So I didn't do Tiffany for the actualwedding, but I did Tiffany for her bridal
shower and Marla for the bridal shower.
And then I did Marla for the actualwedding and it was just extraordinary and
beautiful and you know, they were lovely.
They've always been lovely.
And I always get people that arelike, what's this person like?
(09:52):
Or what's that person like?
And sometimes I, I, I feel likethey're waiting for some spectacular
gossip thing for me to say, andI don't have anything to say.
First of all, if I did,I wouldn't say anything.
I think that's also why Iget hired people, trust me.
all have good days.
We all have bad days.
I just used to laugh all thetime cause they were like, so
what's Dick Cheney really like?
And I was like, kind of quiet.
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lovely.
Always been kind man of very, you know,very few little words, but when he has
something to say, um, you better listen.
back then the kids were little andI was like, you know, one's crying
because they can't find a cowboy boot.
The other one's crying causethey didn't get an Oreo.
It's not that big of a deal guys.
They're just normal people.
but I do remember when, um,Maya, Olivia was little.
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My daughter, and my niece who nowlives here, Alexandria, we were
actually at the, uh, observatorywhere, uh, they lived in DC then,
um, vice president in, um, Cheney.
And it was just so funnybecause I had to go.
Do their, uh, Mrs.
Cheney's makeup for something.
And my little one was little and I hadto take the girls with me because after
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that we were heading to the beach.
And it was just so funny cuz the VP wassitting on the veranda, like reading a
newspaper or something and my child andmy niece were just running back and forth.
They had
clue.
then fast forward, you know, my niece,uh Goes on to be working for them and
so on, and she doesn't do that anymore.
She works here in Jackson forsomeone else, but it is just a
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pretty cool, full circle, you know?
Everybody's a person in their ownway and they, they live li their
lives outside of what we might see TVor, or Rita in the me in the media.
Yeah, you're right.
for being a, a makeup artist.
And said earlier that you do a lot ofphoto shoots here in, in Jackson, but
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you also do a lot of weddings as well.
I do, I love doing weddings.
I just got here in November and I'mpretty darn proud of myself cuz I
started marketing myself on my own andit's what only May and I have thus far.
17 weddings booked on my own.
and I then met, uh, Jill with theScout guide and I absolutely, um,
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thought it was absolutely necessary.
That's why today I came running in cuz Idid my photo shoot for the scout guide.
But, definitely promoting myself, I'ma huge for promoting and not just.
Here and there to get noticed.
But you should alwaysbe reinventing yourself.
Uh, in my opinion.
Sometimes people do advertisingor, you know, a big shout out for
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some, you know, to get hyped andpromoted, but, For me, I think you're
continuously always should be evolving.
So I'm doing this bigshoot, with the Scout guide.
Um, my Instagram pagehas a good following.
Um, but I, you know, here for, for justgetting here, I'm doing pretty good.
I'm doing some, I'mstarting to get, uh, work.
there's a lot of work here.
I was surprised because when I came hereI knew there would be work, but I thought
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it would take me at least a good year.
And, here I am.
and as you can see, myhair is pretty simple.
Just, just a tad.
just a tad.
What does it take to be, you know, theartist for why somebody's gonna bring you
in versus them just doing it before theyleave the house and just getting ready.
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you mean like an every day or a shoot?
Because I mean, today when we're finished,I have to go do a shoot, and a lot of
people have this vision in their headthat they're gonna look so made up.
Mm-hmm.
that's so wrong to thinkbecause everybody here.
Oh, I just wear a little mascara and Ilike my hair natural and blah, blah, blah.
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I get that.
however, even if I was doing yourmakeup for an ad right now, or you're
going on tv, if you don't have makeupon, the lighting's gonna wash you out.
You're gonna look, you're almostgonna look like you have the flu.
You know what I mean?
The lighting is so intensethat you do need makeup and.
no matter how natural I make you, youstill need to have makeup on For editorial
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television, it's so completely different.
Like right now, I did my shoottoday and I do feel made up, but in
the pictures I saw, you know, thetakebacks, it doesn't look that way.
so again, a lot of brides are like, oh,I want, everybody says they want natural.
Mm-hmm.
And what I find so amusing isthey, they show me a picture.
like that isn't natural.
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You know, they have,everybody's got this vision.
That's why I love to talk to all myclients, whether it's an editorial shoot
or television, whether it's a bride.
my brides and I talk lot.
Um, I wanna see inspiration pictures.
I want to really get to know them becausetheir vision is, I understand their
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vision, but a lot of times, Once we meetand we do a trial run or we talk about
that vision, that vision is very differentbecause people don't really understand
natural, you know, I've had, I've hadbrides go, look, I wanna look like this.
And although it'sgorgeous, it's not natural.
It's very Kardashian.
It's, you know, the hooplaw, the lashes, the a lot.
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So regardless of it being dramatic and ornatural, takes as the same amount of time.
Hmm.
you know, natural is just as hard becauseit's a lot of blending and softening.
It's all about your brushes andthe lighting and, that's why I love
it though, because there's, that'swhere my creative side goes in.
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So the combination between thelights for photography or or
filming and then somebody's natural.
Skin versus having something,applied to their skin to where
you said doesn't get washed out.
is that relationship thatthat really causes the need
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for, for having the makeup?
Well, makeup, I mean, mygosh, we're, we can add.
Color to the skin.
Not everybody's flawless.
I mean, I'd like to say thateverybody's flawless, but you know,
we all have discoloration somewhere.
And it could be, you know, alittle bit underneath the eyes.
It could be a blemish, it could be that.
And you know, sometimes you justwanna look you, you sun kiss.
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I always call it the sun kiss look.
Like sometimes you just wanna look likeyou might have gotten a little vitamin D.
you'd be surprised just like.
a gentleman that's balding, howshiny the top of his head can get,
No, I, I know that's pretty, prettyshiny on top of the balding head.
I
balding adds character.
I love that.
Um, but you know what I mean, like,people just think, and I've seen people,
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especially during, COVID where a lot ofthe podcast, a lot of the zooms were going
on, and I, I would have to tell them.
gotta fix your face and the lightingit, I know how great you look,
but your lighting is horrific.
You look so washed out you knowyour background's horrific.
And you know, there's somany tricks to the trade.
But even on television, there'sthis thing called an uplight.
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I don't know if you've heardof an uplight, but a light.
let's say, uh, I mean, and you canuse it even in a photo shoot just
sitting there, but it's a light thatkinds comes up and shines upon you.
So, a lot of uplighting ison newscasts, um, anchors.
it's a light that comes up and it justlights up the entire, like chin and face.
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And that's why theycall it the uplighting.
But it, it, it's key.
Lighting is key.
And if you don't have good lighting,you know, it's hard because a makeup
artist, we have lights that we bring in,and natural light to me is like the most
perfect light period, but, you can be thebest makeup artist if your photographer
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or if your lighting isn't good, youknow, I've worked with so many people
and it's actually a nice thing that,uh, a lot of people are like, we didn't
even have to Photoshop anything you did.
You know what I mean?
that's
pretty cool.
That's a nice compliment.
I had a photo shoot few years ago whereI had, head shots done and I have this
one spot on my head that is blank.
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It looks like somebody peeled a,a tire and it wore it away the
photographer had to fill it in.
But I, I'm curious to know, you mentionedit's all about brushes and other,
you know, materials that you have.
What does your toolkit look like that youtake for photo shoot to prepare somebody?
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Wow.
I have a very large rolling kit.
I have a hair kit, um, and my kit.
As far as makeup goes, has so manydifferent products, so many different,
brushes, you know, everybody's like,I don't just use one particular
product or one particular brand.
I have so many different products,so many different brands.
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when I was a trainer for Mac backin the day, and down the East Coast.
I love to this day, I do likecertain Mac products just cuz I know
exactly how it's gonna look and read.
as far as like their lip liners andtheir lip glosses, of their blushes.
But my, my brushes areMac, you know, other makeup
artists, uh, you know, I have.
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everybody.
I think a true makeup artist hasan, as, an assortment of so many
different, you know, Tom Ford?
I love that.
Tom Ford's Foundation.
I love, um, pat McGrath.
Uh, it's just the, the,the list goes on and on.
Charlotte Tilbury, I mean, Ihave a little bit of everything.
Same with my brushes.
There's a makeup artist, um,makeup art, his name is Ariel.
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He does, um, Kylie all the time.
Like that's her, that's her go-to.
He's got beautiful brushes.
My daughter gifted those to me.
So if you opened, if you saw my kit, youwould probably just be almost overwhelmed.
You know?
It's like a kid in a candy shop,like where, what do you do?
Where do you go to?
I mean is, does this look like,you know, the Craftsman toolkit
that stands five feet tall?
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It's pretty tall because well, myhair kit actually fits on top of it,
so if I'm traveling I can disconnectthe hair kit and put it above.
there just packages or packetsinside my kit that are like
one, one hole if you will.
It's, it's actuallylike a little zuka bag.
It's a brand, but um, hasnothing but lip stuff.
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And the next bag has nothing butfoundations and concealers for light skin.
The next has founda foundationsand colors for dark skin.
I have.
all my brushes are kind of categorized,you know, with powder and, and,
and concealer or what have you.
Then I have another bagwith mascara, wands and lip.
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I, I mean, you, think you'd probablylook at it and go, okay, wow.
It, it looks,
Hi.
it's, it's, and, and it takes yearsto, get all this stuff, you know?
It just doesn't happen overnight.
you start slowly and, and that,that's, and you build your kit.
That's how you build your career too.
You build your kit,
it's.
how do you think people feel whenyou're having the consultation and
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then they tell you what they, whatthey're looking for, and then.
come the day of, of your artistry.
How do you think peoplefeel when, when you're done?
I think they feel fabulous becauseI want them to feel like just an
enhanced version of themselves,
Mm-hmm.
you know?
That's one thing that I love aboutthis job is, you know, everybody's
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got beauty and we're all, you know,we're all unique, we're all different.
But for me, I just wanna enhance,know, we, I, especially my brides, I
always say, you know, you don't wannawalk down the aisle and have people
turn and, you know, see you comingdown the aisle and go, who is that?
and you want your groom to lookat you and just be like, wow.
You know, that's why the groom, youknow, you wanna see those tears.
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You wanna see the joy andyou want somebody to feel
absolutely good about themselves.
and that's a lot of times why,uh, you know, whether it's photo
shoots not so much, but a bride,we do talk about her look that day
it's really important we nail it.
and I've been pretty,pretty darn lucky thus far.
I've probably done over athousand weddings in my life.
know, I do have a page on the Knot rightnow, and I have over a hundred pictures of
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my brides and the most beautiful reviews.
And the coolest thing about my brides ora lot of my clients is then we've become
friends and now they're all having babies.
And it's just pretty cool becausenot only are they my brides or
my clients, we become friends.
And um, that's, that's areally, really neat thing.
That is, um, really cool to have.
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. Those clients become friends overtimes and you get to how their life is
progressing and growing and changing.
Yeah.
beautiful.
And that's how I do get a lot ofmy brides, obviously I've just
moved here, so, that, that'sgonna have to come with time.
But, back in DC and Miami and all theseplaces, a lot of my brides were referrals.
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just, you know, oh my God, youdid my girlfriend and I love, oh
my God, can you do my wedding?
That kind of thing.
And
Mm-hmm.
think that's such a coolthing because they noticed
well, apparently so.
I mean, the best compliment anybodycan give you is a referral, isn't it?
absolutely.
Yeah.
Well, Tracy, we're gonna take a quickbreak to get a word from one of our
sponsors and then we will be right back.
Tracy, welcome back to theJackson Hole Connection.
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I'm enjoying this timeto get to speak with you.
You're the first professional, actuallythe first makeup artist that I've had on
the show, and you're certainly the firstmakeup artist that I've ever spoken to.
And it's a business and a world thatfor me, being a guy I'm just not in.
You do stuff for?
For TV and, and for filming.
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I'm not on tv.
I have the face for radio, which is whyI do a podcast and not a video cast.
with the people that you're workingwith or what you're trying to get
accomplished, how do you stay currentand relevant with how, Fashion changes.
Fashion is always changing.
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And you know what I like is, um,a lot of times, I can't remember
who said it, it was a designer.
There's really no such thingas what's trending right now
Hmm.
if you, especially here in Jackson.
Jackson there, there's a particular look.
You don't really see people walkingaround like they're in New York City.
So to me, like.
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I don't really, uh, I, I'm not so sureI'm really into that whole trending thing.
I think evolving, of knowingwhat's going on with the times.
I, I, I like this town too because,you know, you've got your hippie
dippies, you've got, you know, somefancy people that like to like, Be
dolled up and you got your skiers,you got your, you know what I mean?
That's one thing.
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But even like back in DC you dohave a lot of political types.
So they have a particular look.
Then you, you know, you think about likeNashville, there's musicians everywhere.
It's the new, it's the new Hollywood.
Then you go to Miami, it'sa totally different look.
So, um, hopefully I'm making sense toyou right now, but when people say trend,
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I, I don't know about the trend so much.
It's just evolving, kind of knowing,knowing your audience, knowing
your canvas, knowing that person.
I, I like it when people havetheir own style, their own vibe.
That to me is fashion.
That to me is that to me is style.
You know, we can all go to acertain store and go to Isle,
blah, blah, blah, and buy the samesweater by the same, what have you.
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But when people have their ownand their own vibe, roll with it.
And that's another reasonwhy I get to know my clients.
It's cool to understand who they are,their personality, and then we click and
we come together with a really cool look.
I've never been to Miami.
What?
What is that like in the worldof what you would see somebody
moving around every day.
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Miami's a whole different vibe andI always tell people like literally
like Fort Lauderdale and Miami.
30 minutes apart.
Okay.
different scene.
Miami, I.
Loud music, the clubs physical.
I mean, not that everybody, I mean,even here in Jackson, I, my eyes
usually bulge outta my head becauseeverybody here is just so physically fit.
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Too different kind of fit.
Like you got your skiers and youryogas and your, all that Miami I'll
never forget when I went to Miami andI just threw on my workout clothes
and I went to the grocery store andI'm looking around going, where am I?
They are dulled up, hairdone, makeup on, nails done.
I mean, it's, it's wild.
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You know?
And they, and, and they go out at.
11 o'clock at night and they're like,oh, good God, I've been in bed for hours.
Um, it's just a different scene.
most people are, when theyleave Miami, they're like, Ooh,
it was fun, but I'm exhausted.
you got your clubs, you got youramazing restaurants, you've got
your beautiful ocean skyline.
It's very beautiful, butit's just totally different.
Totally different.
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And you better speak Spanish if youwanna do like the career I had, I
remember, um, uh, vin, it's, it's atelevision station and Vela is their
soap operas all of them do full coverage.
You're not even allowedto see a freckle on air.
And so I did a lesson fortheir makeup artists There.
I had to have a person translating cuzuh, I mean I have little people are
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like, Garcia, you should speak Spanish.
But my beautiful husband who Ijust lost in August, um, was Cuban.
I'm sorry to hear of, of your loss.
Thank you.
He was my angel.
And there was another reason why I'm here.
This is one of his favorite places.
So the two of you had timeto travel here together.
Yes.
he came here.
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Um, my niece Alexander wasmarried here on New Year's Eve,
and he absolutely loved it.
What's funny is being Cuban, you'dthink he was just an ocean, ocean man.
But, his boys were little, healways took them to, uh, Tennessee,
which I thought was so cool andthey'd go camping and so on.
But, he came out here and he fell inlove with it and uh, I promised him that
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I would honor him and I am starting allover and it's pretty darn and scary.
But it's okay cuz he's right here with me.
I feel his presence.
That's beautiful that, you, you made themove to bring his soul a along with you.
Wherever I go.
Yeah.
So was he born in Cuba and,and immigrated here to the us?
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Yes.
He was actually born in Cubaand went, came to the United
States when he was three.
literally with.
What they had the shirts on their back.
it's a pretty cool story.
His, uh, his mother's brother wasone of the first that came over
on a raft from Cuba and was oneof the very first ones to make it.
And I don't know, a lot of people don'tknow this, but if you do, excuse me.
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Um, but his uncle was, 10 feet fromreaching the sand some people started
running towards him to get him.
And that's a big no-no.
He actually had to be the first personto be put his foot on soil and he did.
Um, and his raft is actuallyin a museum in Miami.
It's a pretty cool story,but yeah, they, yeah,
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So the people running towards him couldhave disrupted him being able to, um,
ask for asylum.
Yeah, he, he had to get out of thatraft and touch soil and, you know,
people were so excited they weretrying to help him, but it was like,
you know, you need to be off thatraft and have your foot on the ground.
Foot on the ground.
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Yeah.
Wild.
It was, it's an amazing story.
Is.
And did you go to Cuba with him?
Did you guys ever go back to Cuba?
no
No.
nom.
We, um, we would've loved to.
it's funny cuz his name was, um, JoseManuel Garcia and here I am, Tracy Garcia.
And uh, when I would travel withhim it would just become hilarious
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cuz I was like, obviously you'vebecome TSA approved and stuff.
But I was like, oh my God,I'll see you on the airplane.
There must be a thousand Jose Garcias.
And it was always him, youknow, getting checked and.
It was always an ongoing joke,but no, we didn't go back for
a, a lot of different reasons.
you know, safety and
it's, you know, people havegone and said it's beautiful.
It's still like back in whatthe fifties or what have you.
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But I don't think it was abright idea for us personally.
And at what point does somebody decide?
let's, that they would want a makeupartist outside of a wedding or, you
know, being on TV or being filmed.
gosh, sometimes peoplewant makeup just to go out.
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Feel good.
They don't know how to, a special birthdayanniversary, you know, out on the town
doesn't always have to be, doesn'talways have to be something or wedding,
some people wanna make up lesson.
Some people are stuck in a rutand wanna do something different
and they've been doing the samething forever and they just wanna.
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Have me, uh, come over and go throughtheir stuff and tell 'em what they should
be using, what they shouldn't be using.
people have products in theirdrawers and it blows me away
that they've had for years.
And I'm thinking to myself,that's probably not so smart.
Hmm.
know, down to a mascara, you shouldnot be using a mascara that's that
old, that's just so many things.
Or they don't have the right colors.
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They don't have the right shades.
They just hadn't, didn't have theproper, informative, you know, help.
So would you say thatyou do coaching as well?
Yeah, I've given lessons.
lessons are fun though.
Be they, some people arelike, oh, that's too scary.
But I'm like, I can't do your makeup.
And then say, okay, do it yourself.
So what I'll do is I'll gothrough all their stuff.
We'll talk about stuff.
We might have to order products,but I'll do one half of their
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face and make them do the other.
Mm-hmm.
there's a guideline for them.
because if I just do it, how are theygonna, you know, there's trial and
error, you're gonna learn and, but I'mstanding there literally watching them
and saying, look at the other eye.
Look at your eye.
You know, and I'm themhow to use their brushes.
Some people just aren't evenusing their brushes properly.
again, a world that Inot much, experience in.
(31:15):
So this is.
All really fascinating to me.
you learning stuff today?
I am,
All right, I love that.
I love that.
I, Tracy, I try to learnsomething every day.
ditto, ditto.
If, if I can learn something neweach day, I've done myself a little
service because then I'm, I'mkeeping my brain fresh and active
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I agree.
agree.
I.
I think that's so important todo and with what you're doing.
I mean, some of it's for professional,but also it's to help people
have a, to feel a certain way,which sometimes people need that.
Oh man, I've donated my time,um, back in DC uh, make a Wish.
Wow.
(31:59):
You know, so.
a joy make a child's dream come true.
One little girl wanted to bea princess each news anchor.
were at different museums and incool places in DC and at the end of
her special day, she was obviouslya princess, uh, right there.
I believe it was right offConstitution or Pennsylvania Avenue.
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They had a cute little pony, butthey made the pony into a unicorn.
I mean, those are thethings that bring such joy.
and you know, that little angel,all she wanted was to be a princess.
And those kinds of thingsreally, truly gave me joy.
I love doing that.
I love giving back.
And hopefully as I learn more aboutbeing here in Jackson, um, I, I'd
love to do more of that as well.
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oh, there's no shortage of organizationsto work with to be able to give
back to the community in this town.
I, I, learning a lot of that and I'mmeeting so many wonderful people.
it's, it's the perfect place for me.
That's one of the tenants that hasallowed people to survive for so many
years here before Jackson has growninto what it is Now, if you didn't have
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people to rely on and you weren't one ofthose people that helped other people,
This was a very, very, it was tough,even with that support, but without that
support and offering back to everybody,it was a tough, tough place to be.
may I ask how long you've been here?
I've been here for 25 years now.
go.
Mm-hmm.
I, uh, I wish the first time I steppedfoot here in Jackson, I would've like
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bought a little land or something,because now everybody's like, what
are you going to do out there?
How is gonna, is it sustainable?
All these things.
And you know, when I lost my husband, Ialways said by day, I think everybody,
obviously I don't think people shouldjust live vicariously and just, you
know, wing it, but I certainly alsothink like, eat the piece of pizza.
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Go on the vacation.
Tomorrow's not promised.
You know, he, the way he was, youknow, and I don't wanna talk about
that so much, is just the way he wastragically, you know, suffered for
seven months for, on his, for his life.
Long story short, just so youkind of understand my background.
He didn't feel good.
Took him to the hospital.
They found a little mass.
They removed the mass they gave him Covid.
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Yeah.
seven months later, was surroundedby his beautiful loved ones.
But when you love somebodythat hard, you also have to
love 'em enough to let 'em go.
Mm-hmm.
And we.
we did everything we could to keephim here, but wasn't his time.
But uh, like I said,people are like, what?
Why Jackson?
I'm like, he's one of my why's.
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Mm-hmm.
. Well, thank you for sharing that personalside and, and very personal story.
it, it takes a lot to open up.
It does, but you know what?
I just want people to know that whenthey see my Instagram page or see
me half the time, I'm in my workoutclothes with my hair on top of my head.
You know, we're only human.
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We're all, together.
We all have pain, we all have hurt.
I think a lot of times people see,um, Instagram page and it's glorified.
and,
know, I'm just living the real deal here.
Uh, every morning I get up and I, I lookoutside and I see snow king and I say my
little prayers and I'm thankful and I havebeautiful kids and a beautiful, beautiful
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angel granddaughter, and I choose to doit, and I chose to do it for him too.
Um, and I think we allhave, we all have something.
None of us agree.
I, I always say, you know, none ofus are getting outta here alive,
So true.
It's so true.
And my biggest thing I think I'velearned from this is compassion,
love, kindness, giving back.
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you know, sometimes we just forgetthat that person walking down the
street might be in pain or suffering.
So if I can do that,in, I'm good, I'm happy.
And if I live in a little apartment forthe rest of my life, because I can't
fit can't afford my, you know, I, I am.
Sad that I never bought property hereyears and years ago, but you look
around and you're like, well, they'redoing it so I'm gonna do it too.
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You know?
No, everybody comes hereand doesn't wanna leave.
There is a reason for that.
Right.
Mm-hmm.
. Now, since you have been here since andexperience one of the, I'd say in the
past, my past 25 years, one of the longerwinters and cooler springs for sure.
I do not ever recall the amount ofsnow that we still have on Snow King.
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And today is May 15th when you andI are, are speaking, um, that there
is that amount of snow on there.
What are you looking forward to?
In the next few monthsbetween now and and winter.
Oh my God.
I have said I am going to, Imean, yesterday after Mother's
Day brunch, we went on a fourmile walk and it was just amazing.
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And, you know, just, just seeingthe animals too, like just
obviously in my car, but I.
That to me is so cool.
But I wanna hike.
I wanna learn how to fly fish.
it's funny cuz there wehave this on ongoing joke.
Like, I wanna do this, I wanna do that.
I wanna, um, I wanna, I wanna kayak,I wanna do every, I wanna cycle.
I just wanna get out there and do it.
And I mean, when pe, if peoplehaven't been here and then,
(37:09):
then they come, they get why.
I've had family visit and theyjust like their jaws drop.
I wanna get out there.
I wanna, you know, breathethis beautiful, fresh air.
There's a reason why we're all here and, Imean, all you have to do is look outside.
It's.
the outside and, and then it's the people
the giving heart like you have
You know,
that, um, make it a great community.
(37:29):
I appreciate that.
I, I, I really, I.
Really do love it here.
I love the people.
I love the small town vibe.
funny story, I had to go to Idaho Fallsto take my dog ticket groomed because
no one had an opening here for months.
And I was like, well, she'sgonna look like a bear.
So we, we went and I could you not, wasin Hobby Lobby for two and a half hours.
(37:50):
I have, I just stumbled in there and Ithought to myself, back east, I would've
been able to like go inside a Michael's ora Hobby Lobby and grabbed what I needed.
I was just like, it was likeso cool to me that I was so
into Hobby Lobby and then they
me and they're like, your dog's ready?
I'm like, oh my God, Ihaven't gone to Costco.
Or all those things that we just takefor granted somewhere else, know?
(38:13):
it's there, it's smackthere, and that's not here.
You know, we have the targethere and we have, but it's,
it's such a different vibe here.
That you really, you really learn toappreciate and, I just, everybody
that hears that story thinks it'sso funny cuz it's only Hobby Lobby.
And you would've thought that I waslike at, you know, Nordstrom's for
or something.
(38:33):
But it was just really cool.
Yeah, I, I think when you're here,you don't realize what you don't
need, but then when you go into aplace where, There's everything in
community where there is all that stuff.
Then it's like, oh, look atwhat I can, what is here?
And, but you find a wayto survive without it.
absolutely
Yeah.
(38:54):
So Tracy, a a few departingwords of wisdom from you.
What would you like to sharewith people to think about?
As they move on continue living theirdaily life, that somebody can think about
Oh wow.
you're putting me on thespot here, aren't you?
(39:15):
You know, I, I, I feel like I'm justputting myself on that preach thing again,
but I, I'm really a place in my life now.
when you, when you go through suchhard times, it's, it's like sometimes
people complain about the dumbest stuff,and I say this to my daughter now.
We always talk about this.
If somebody's having a bad day orsomebody's complaining or something didn't
(39:39):
go right, I'm like, it have a heartbeat?
Is it that big of a deal?
Mm-hmm.
Did it have a heartbeat?
You know, it's just that simple to me.
You, you, you know, uh, just be kind.
that person a smile.
I find that a lot here in Jackson, notso much back on the dc uh, you know,
DC uh, scene and stuff like that.
(40:00):
But hopefully more and more peoplewill just be coming together
more and, um, share what we have.
And it's, we're all really here andsharing what we have in the same
boat, you know, no one's better.
I, I, I love people here that areliving in a tiny little shack to a.
8 million home.
Don't care.
Really don't care.
I don't care what you came from.
(40:20):
I don't care what you have.
I, I care about your heart.
That's a beautiful statementand a, and a lovely way to end,
Oh,
today,
I so appreciate it.
Tracy,
I appreciate you having me.
It was really fun.
Thank you.
I enjoyed talking to you today.
Thank you.
you.
To learn more about Tracy Garciaand her work, visit the Jackson
Hole connection, episode number 245.
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