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Jay Franze (00:57):
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Tradition says that we have todiscuss the question of the day.
Tiffany Mason (01:28):
Okay.
Jay Franze (01:29):
The question of the
day.
Tiffany Mason (01:32):
Lay it on me.
Jay Franze (01:33):
I don't know what it
is.
What's the question of the day?
No, this is a good one.
This is a good one.
Let me tell you why.
It is not your typicalquestion.
We have to thank Roxanne forthe question of the day.
She is the one that provided uswith the question of the day,
and it is going to be a funnyone, I have a feeling.
Can you ruin a band name bychanging or adding just one
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letter?
Can you ruin a band's name bychanging or adding just one
letter?
Do not give me your answer now.
Wait till a little later in theshow.
And if you would like to joinour shenanigans here, please go
ahead and put your comments inthe comment section, and we will
read those off a little laterin the show as well.
Woo! All right.
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Let's get this thing started,my friend.
Last week we talked about theCMA awards.
A little preemptive discussion.
This week we're going todiscuss how you owe me a steak.
I mean, we're going to discussa recap of the CMA awards.
Tiffany Mason (02:37):
Oh, I wish I had
been more correct.
Jay Franze (02:41):
Well, let's just
jump into it.
It aired on ABC last week.
You can now go ahead back andstream it on Hulu.
Took place at the BridgetoneArena there in Nashville.
It is their hockey arena.
The thing about the CMAs wehave to understand is the time
frame.
What does it cover?
So it covers from July to June.
So the activity had to takeplace between July 1st and June
(03:06):
30th.
Tiffany Mason (03:07):
I did not realize
that.
Okay.
Jay Franze (03:08):
Okay, so that's why
when we see things that say best
new artists, or it seems likethey've been around a little
while.
However, the reason why they'reon our list is because they hit
the scene between July 1st andJune 30th.
Got it.
We mentioned that it was hostedby Lainey Wilson, and it was.
She was a little nervousbecause it was her second time
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hosting, but it was her firsttime doing it solo.
I think she did a great job.
Tiffany Mason (03:34):
Killed it.
Jay Franze (03:35):
She did.
She killed it.
Tiffany Mason (03:36):
I think she just
oozes charisma.
Yeah.
You you can't watch her and notlove her.
Jay Franze (03:41):
Yeah.
So I think she did a great job.
Super, super proud of her.
And I really enjoyed watchingthe show from start to finish
with her, her wardrobe changes,her activities, the comments she
makes, just like you said, thecharisma she has overall.
Tiffany Mason (03:57):
Well, and I think
it's becoming very apparent
that she is country music.
You know, like there's just somany things that are coming out
that you just realize.
Like she shared the story aboutwhen she was nine years old and
she was sitting at the GrandOld Opry, and you know, she
wanted to be inducted into theGrand Old Opry.
And then I mean, I follow heron social media, and I just feel
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like so many things that shedoes are so true to country
music, and then doing thecowcurl of the night at all of
her concerts, you know, liketrying to be a role model for
you know, her fans, and thenjust honestly the way she talks,
just her cute little accent.
I mean, it just feels soauthentic to go with country
music when she was talking abouther parents when they came out
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on stage with her, and just whenshe accepted her awards, just
the whole thing, all of her justshouts country music.
Jay Franze (04:46):
I think it shouts
class.
Tiffany Mason (04:48):
Hmm, okay, fair
enough.
I like that.
Jay Franze (04:51):
All right, well, as
long as we're talking about her,
let's jump into the performers.
So she was a main performer ofthe night.
What a way to open the show.
Yes.
Oh my god, a medley of hits.
Tiffany Mason (05:04):
Yes.
You asked about who werewatching the night or whatever,
and I said Laney Wilson.
Anyway, it was her.
And that was my favorite outfitof the night.
I mean, I loved all eight ofhers.
But the white one with the goldtrim and the gold lace, it was
a favorite, fan favorite.
Jay Franze (05:22):
What did they call
it?
Her wedding era?
Tiffany Mason (05:25):
Yes.
Yes, they did.
Mm-hmm.
That's what it was.
Her bride era.
Yes.
Jay Franze (05:30):
Not bad.
The other one you were lookingforward to is Ella Langley.
What did you think of herperformance?
Tiffany Mason (05:36):
I mean, I just
love them.
I loved that in that openingone that Ella Langley and Laney
Wilson did a short little duetthing or whatever, you know, and
it was kind of part of thatmedley.
Yeah.
Just to learn that they'refriends in real life was kind of
fun.
And, you know, it was one ofthose things where it was like,
huh, okay, I see that.
That makes sense.
Again, just played into what Ithink they are.
Jay Franze (05:59):
Well, that's cool.
I also liked the performanceyou did with Riley Green.
Tiffany Mason (06:03):
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
And everybody just loves thesong anyway.
And do they though?
Jay Franze (06:08):
Do they all does
everybody love it?
Tiffany Mason (06:11):
I think they do
because it won.
Yes.
Fair enough.
You know.
The fans have spoken, Jay.
Jay Franze (06:18):
Fine.
How about Megan Moroni?
Tiffany Mason (06:22):
Okay, well, I
have a lot to say about Megan
Moroney.
Okay, so remember, I've alwayssaid that she reminds me of the
Vimbot, Vimbots.
Okay, she does from AustinPowers.
Jay Franze (06:31):
How long is this
going to be?
Do I need to get a drink?
Tiffany Mason (06:33):
Yes.
But I think what I actuallynailed down is she reminds me of
Kendra Wilkinson, who was oneof Hugh Hefner's Playboy
bunnies.
But then she had a show on oneof the networks about her
personal life.
So finally that little dilemmain my brain has been cleared up.
And then one of our crewmembers said, I love her and all
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of her pink.
And I was thinking to myself,well, okay, pink, yeah, because
it's girly and Megan Broni'svery girly and she does have
some pink accents and whatever.
But her last album, she wasreally inspired by blue and
white.
And then we've heard rumorsthat the next album is gonna be
purple.
So I was happy to see her showup in the pink.
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And then I was like, man, thosecrew members, they're on it.
Jay Franze (07:21):
So what are you
saying?
So then I was kind of put in myplace.
Tiffany Mason (07:27):
Yeah, I I know
that probably shocks you, but
um, yeah.
So I enjoyed it, and again,just seeing her, I was like, oh,
I love her in person.
I love her performances and howadorable she is.
And on the radio, I don't know,it falls flat for me, but you
know, it's fun to see her.
What did you think, Jay?
Jay Franze (07:49):
Oh, I thought she
was awesome.
I have no complaints about her.
And she's as cute as can be.
Tiffany Mason (07:54):
So easy on the
eyes.
Jay Franze (07:55):
Easy on the eyes.
The one that I think is alittle bit more controversial is
Chris Stapleton.
Performed a couple songs.
Tiffany Mason (08:04):
Okay.
Jay Franze (08:04):
Performed solo and
then performed with Miranda
Lambert.
When he performed by himself, Ithought it sounded like Chris
Stapleton.
I thought it was spot on.
It matched his brand.
When he sings with MirandaLambert, I don't think it
matches either one of theirbrand.
Tiffany Mason (08:19):
I agree with
that.
Jay Franze (08:21):
I think it's a great
song.
I think it sounds good.
Tiffany Mason (08:24):
Yeah.
Jay Franze (08:25):
But it's not them.
At least I don't feel like it'sthem.
I f I want grit and growl outof them.
I don't want that just singsonggy stuff.
It's kind of a throwback to the70s and kind of give a little
bit of a disco vibe to it.
I think they did very good.
I think it's a well-writtensong.
I think they performed it verywell.
I just don't think that's theirbrand.
Tiffany Mason (08:48):
I felt like they
were competing, not rivalry-ish,
but like maybe they couldn'tfind their note, or I don't
know.
I didn't feel like they werethemselves.
So exactly what you're saying,but on a different level or
whatever.
But I remember I was working ona blanket.
I've crocheted this wholepeppermint blanket, and I was
(09:09):
connecting these piecestogether, and I looked up and I
was just like, what is happeningright now?
Something was off.
So I would agree with that.
Jay Franze (09:18):
Hmm.
All right.
Well, I don't know if I'd sayit's off, you know, if you want
to send hate mail to Tiffany atJFranzi.com.
But anyways, I think they did.
Now another one I know youliked was the Red Clay Strays.
Yes.
I thought their performance waswasn't bad.
It was pretty good overall, butit gave me now work with me
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here.
It gave me an Arctic monkeysvibe.
Oh, okay.
Especially when the harmonieskicked in.
It had a very Arctic monkeysfeel to it.
Okay.
I know, you know, pop rockversus pop country.
However, if you go back andlisten, I think you'll see it
too.
(10:01):
It has a Arctic monkey feel,especially when the harmonies
kick in in the course.
Tiffany Mason (10:06):
Okay.
Well then I may like the Arcticmonkeys.
I um feel like, again, one ofthe crew members have mentioned
these guys before.
And I looked them up and Ithink that maybe I didn't give
them a fair shake.
And then because I was watchingCMAs, you know, I wanted to
give credit or give the fulltime to the show.
(10:28):
And so I am torn.
I feel two ways about it.
I feel like it's really likethis machismo or like Elvis
Presley-ish with his like, youknow, rock hard hair that he's
got flung backwards.
And he's kind of too cool forschool, or like cool hand look,
you know, like, but or also uhtrying too hard, or like they
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said with the country music,some people use it as a costume.
Oh, I mean, I hate to say that.
I don't want to say thatthey're gimmicky, but it kind of
feels a little bit like that.
But also because it's so faroff the beaten path, like it's
not like they're trying toimitate anybody.
So then I'm like, well, maybethat's just like who he is, and
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he's just like magnifying who heis.
So the verdict is out for me,what the true identity of the
Red Clay Straits is, but I didenjoy the music.
So they're on my radar forsure.
And based on them being on theCMAs and being in the
performance, I kind of expect tosee them on the charts.
Jay Franze (11:39):
Fair enough.
Think they've been there, thinkthey'll be back.
Tiffany Mason (11:42):
Do you think that
I mean, I guess I don't even
want to say this out loud, buthave they been on the radio?
Jay Franze (11:48):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You probably should not say itall up.
Let's go ahead and keep that toyourself.
Tiffany Mason (11:54):
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
That that yeah.
Jay Franze (11:56):
While we're on that
note, let's go ahead and move on
to the presenters.
Okay.
Let's start off with Billy RayCyrus and Elizabeth Hurley.
Tiffany Mason (12:04):
Mm-hmm.
Jay Franze (12:05):
I thought Billy Ray
Cyrus actually looked pretty
good.
Tiffany Mason (12:10):
Okay.
Jay Franze (12:11):
I don't think he
looked as off as he has
recently.
I think he was all in black.
I think he had a sharp look.
It was well put together.
Now, whether or not you likethe style is another story.
But I think it was well puttogether.
Tiffany Mason (12:28):
Like Elizabeth,
help your man out.
Jay Franze (12:32):
I think overall, I
think he was well put together.
Tiffany Mason (12:35):
Yeah.
Jay Franze (12:35):
I think I would
agree.
I think she probably was a goodinfluence on him.
Tiffany Mason (12:39):
It was an
improvement from the last time
he was in viewers' sight.
Jay Franze (12:43):
I think his PR
firm's been working with him.
Anyways, I like I can't sayenough.
Every time I ever met with him,hung out with him, did anything
with him, he was the nicest guyin the world.
So we all have our challenges.
I know he's faced some of someof his own, but he is truly one
of the nicest people I've evermet.
Tiffany Mason (13:04):
Yeah.
Jay Franze (13:05):
Yeah.
All right.
How about Leanne Rhymes?
Or shall I say, how aboutLeanne Rhymes' boobs?
Tiffany Mason (13:14):
Well, I think
they're great.
I was listening to a strategyon how to get sponsorships or
whatever.
And one of them was talkingabout talking about the product
before you're even sponsored bythem or whatever.
And I think it's funny that youknow Victoria's Secret is
reaching out being like, Hey,you are making waves for us.
(13:34):
What can we get for you?
Jay Franze (13:36):
Making waves.
I know it's mixed feelings onwhether people think she's good
looking or not.
I fall in the camp of I thinkshe's a good looking woman.
Yeah, I think she's looking atit.
I've always thought that.
I've always thought she's goodlooking.
And yes, her bosom, as we callit, has been hiked up recently
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to the point where it's drawinga lot of attention.
Tiffany Mason (13:59):
Well, you put
them on display, you know.
Jay Franze (14:01):
And it's all as she
says to her Victoria's Secret
bra.
Tiffany Mason (14:07):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Jay Franze (14:08):
And now, like you
said, Victoria's Secret's
reaching out to her for a littlebit of collaboration.
Tiffany Mason (14:12):
But I mean, is it
a secret anymore?
Jay Franze (14:17):
Well, if it is, I
know what the secret is.
Okay, let's talk about GretchenWilson for a minute.
Yeah.
I thought she was there, youknow, was happy.
But during the medley, sherefused to stand up.
Do you have any speculation ofwhy she refused to stand up?
Tiffany Mason (14:38):
No.
I didn't realize she wasactually refusing to stand up.
I felt like I mean, it seemedlike everybody else knew that
Laney was gonna come sing withthem.
Jay Franze (14:48):
You know what?
I think there's a few peoplethat knew that, but I don't
think everybody knew, especiallywhen it started.
Okay.
Because she started in was itChris Stapleton?
She started singing his songand his head instantly looked up
and his eyes opened up.
Tiffany Mason (15:05):
Yeah.
Jay Franze (15:05):
So I don't think
everybody knew.
Obviously, some people knewbecause they participated.
Tiffany Mason (15:11):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that maybe she justwasn't expecting it.
And you know, just because yougo on stage and sing doesn't
mean that you like thespotlight.
I mean, you do when it'splanned, but maybe I don't know.
Jay Franze (15:24):
Yeah.
Tiffany Mason (15:24):
Maybe not.
Jay Franze (15:25):
I don't know if she
minded the spotlight because she
sat there and danced and evensang along.
There was some reason shedidn't want to stand.
I don't know what that reasonis.
If anybody does know, pleaseput it in the comments.
I'd love to know.
Tiffany Mason (15:38):
I felt like she
just thought, like, oh, this is
your moment, Laney.
You don't have to humor me bypulling me up.
That that's just what I feltlike to me.
Jay Franze (15:44):
You're taking the
high road.
I like that.
Tiffany Mason (15:46):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jay Franze (15:47):
And that's a good
theory.
If anybody else has anytheories, go ahead, please.
Put them in the comments.
I'd like.
I would truly, honestly like toknow.
You know, was did somethinghappen?
Did she hurt her leg?
Was she not wearing shoes?
I don't know.
What was the reason for notwanting to stand up?
Tiffany Mason (16:02):
I just think to
myself, like, she is fine on the
road, but that was taped monthsago.
Jay Franze (16:08):
So all right.
Yeah.
Let's talk most memorablemoment.
What was your most memorablemoment from the show?
Tiffany Mason (16:16):
Um, I did like
when Laney picked a cowgirl of
the night.
That was really cute.
I really liked when ChrisStapleton sang When I Call Your
Name by Vince Gill when he wasdoing a tribute to Vince Gill.
I really liked that.
And then Laney's outfits.
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Laney's outfits.
Did you see Laney's outfits?
Jay Franze (16:41):
You struggle with
this whole understanding of what
most or best.
Tiffany Mason (16:50):
I have a lot of
thoughts, Jay, and I cannot just
narrow it down to one.
Jay Franze (16:54):
You can't contain
them.
Tiffany Mason (16:55):
I can't.
I can't do it.
Jay Franze (16:58):
Well, what was
yours?
I mean, overall, I thought itwas a high-energy show.
I thought the stripped downmoments were emotional, so I
thought it had a good rollercoaster ride to take you through
from start to finish.
I thought it was a verywell-produced show.
In the past, I don't think it'sactually had that.
Tiffany Mason (17:19):
So yeah, I will
say you saying that now, it
makes me feel like the CMAs areback.
You know, that that's kind ofhow it felt.
Jay Franze (17:26):
It did feel that
way.
But my favorite moment of theentire show was Laney doing the
medley.
Tiffany Mason (17:34):
Okay.
Jay Franze (17:35):
I mean, that was
just awesome.
I haven't seen anything likethat in a long time.
And not only have I not seenanything like that in a long
time, she sang it live.
Tiffany Mason (17:44):
Yes, and I did
appreciate that because you
could hear, not like she was, Imean, maybe she was just barely
out of breath, or like, but itwasn't perfect.
Jay Franze (17:53):
You could hear her
breathe.
Tiffany Mason (17:55):
That's right.
Jay Franze (17:56):
I mean, that's
right.
She started off on stage,walked down stairs, you know,
walked over to people, turnedaround, danced.
She did all of these things andsang it live where most people
would have listened to.
Tiffany Mason (18:08):
I did remember
thinking to myself, like, son of
a gun, she's actually reallysinging it.
Jay Franze (18:14):
Yeah, I was super
impressed.
That's a whole new level ofappreciation I have for her now.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's go on to the awardsthemselves and why you actually
owe me a steak.
Oh.
Medium well.
I know Jason Zercone would notagree with me, but medium well
(18:35):
it is.
Also, I like it seasoned,blackened, medium well and
blackened with a side of shrimp.
Tiffany Mason (18:43):
Okay.
Jay Franze (18:43):
Okay.
You know all about that.
Texas Roadhouse.
Might not be considered thebest steakhouse in the world,
but it is my favorite.
Tiffany Mason (18:53):
It's so good.
Jay Franze (18:54):
So I've been to a
lot of them.
Texas Roadhouse is my favorite.
Whatever happened to Logan's?
I mean, I see those here andthere.
Tiffany Mason (19:01):
They're still
around.
Jay Franze (19:02):
But they're not as
prevalent as they used to be.
Tiffany Mason (19:05):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jay Franze (19:06):
Look at me throwing
out words.
Tiffany Mason (19:09):
I was pretty
proud of you when you mentioned
it.
Jay Franze (19:11):
And it was like
flawless.
I didn't even have to thinkabout it.
It just came up.
Tiffany Mason (19:15):
Well, it was
pretty good.
It was pretty good.
Jay Franze (19:17):
Where that came
from.
Tiffany Mason (19:19):
Uh-huh.
Jay Franze (19:19):
All right.
Tiffany Mason (19:20):
Hanging out with
me for too long.
Jay Franze (19:22):
I've got the list
here.
And I have the start.
So let's just go ahead and godown the list.
Entertainer of the year.
Remind everybody who ourchoices were.
Luke Combs, Cody Johnson, ChrisStapleton, Morgan Wallen, and
Laney Wilson.
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We both went with Laney Wilson.
Tiffany Mason (19:46):
It's a
no-brainer.
It was a gimme.
Jay Franze (19:48):
Therefore, we were
both correct.
But that's when things changed.
Next, album of the year.
Megan Moroni, Zach Top, PoseMalone, Morgan Wallen, Laney
Wilson.
Once again, we both wenttogether, but we both went with
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Morgan Wallen, and we both lostthat one.
Because it went to LaneyWilson.
As an artist, I do believe sheis, in my opinion, the better
artist.
There's probably a lot ofcontroversy there as well.
However, I do feel like he hada great album.
Tiffany Mason (20:29):
Well, 36 songs.
Jay Franze (20:32):
Great collection.
Box set.
Oh, if it was her, I well, no,never mind.
Moving on.
Female vocalist of the year,Kelsey Ballerini, Miranda
Lambert, Ella Langley, MeganMoroney, and Laney Wilson.
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I went with Laney Wilson.
You went with Ella Langley.
Ella.
I went with Laney Wilson.
Male vocalist of the year, LukeCombs, Chris Stapleton, Zach
Top, Morgan Wallen, or CodyJohnson.
We, for whatever reason, didnot go over that one, so it
doesn't matter, but Cody Johnsonwas the one who won.
Tiffany Mason (21:15):
You know, it was
funny when the award was
announced.
I'm like, I don't think wechose on that one.
Jay Franze (21:20):
We didn't put a vote
in for that one.
Cody, you're allowed to winthat one.
Tiffany Mason (21:25):
I was proud of
him though, because we had
talked about him, and I don'tfeel like his name is as big as
his competitors on that one.
Jay Franze (21:31):
Yeah.
Tiffany Mason (21:31):
And I was like,
okay, Cody is legit.
Jay Franze (21:35):
Yeah, I mean, you
have some some big dogs in
there, including ChrisStapleton, man.
Good job.
All right.
This one we did not vote on,but you'll be happy.
Vocal group of the year.
The Red Clay Strays, Lady A,Little Big Town, Old Dominion,
Rasco Flats.
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The Red Clay Strays.
Tiffany Mason (21:59):
Is that a tongue
twister for you, Jay?
Jay Franze (22:01):
It is a tongue
twister from tongue twister.
Tongue twitter?
It's a tongue twister for me.
I always want to say any twowords you put together.
Anywho.
Okay, now this one I'm happywith.
Not a category we voted on, butI'm I'm happy with.
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I'm proud, let's say.
Vocal duo of the year.
We have Brooks and Dunn,Brothers Osborne, Dan and Shay,
Maddie and Tay, The War andTreaty.
The winner is Brooks and Dunn.
Tiffany Mason (22:43):
I know, I was
pretty impressed by that.
Jay Franze (22:45):
Why is that so
impressive?
Tiffany Mason (22:48):
Because it's like
they're standing the test of
time.
You know, like that's how legitthey are.
Jay Franze (22:54):
Not bad.
The most awarded act ever.
The most awarded act ever.
That's pretty impressive.
Congratulations.
I agree.
And congratulations to JeffKing, guitar player, for gotta
give him credit, why not?
Agreed.
Alright.
(23:14):
Fair.
He plays a big, big part inthat.
Wouldn't sound tough and meanif it wasn't for him.
Alright, here we go.
The one that sealed the deal.
Oh god.
New artist of the year.
Ella Langley, Shabuzi, TuckerWetmore, Steven Wilson Jr., and
(23:38):
Zach Top.
And the winner is Zach Top.
I chose Zach Top.
You chose Ella Langley.
Yeah.
That sealed the deal for mydinner.
Tiffany Mason (23:55):
Winner winner
steak dinner.
Jay Franze (23:56):
Winner winner steak
dinner.
Let's just wrap it up.
Single of the year.
Yeah, Luke Combs, MeganMoroney, Zach Top, Ella Langley,
and Riley Green.
Or Laney Wilson.
Winner goes to Laney Wilson.
Who happens to be the mostawarded artist of the night?
We were gonna vote on that too,but I think we both went with
(24:18):
Laney Wilson.
I think that's why we didn'tmusical event of the year.
Tiffany Mason (24:25):
What is it?
Jay Franze (24:26):
Well, you have Riley
Green featuring Ella Langley,
Brandon Lake featuring JellyRoll.
Cody Johnson featuring CarrieUnderwood, Megan Moroney,
featuring Kenny Chesney, or PostMalone featuring Blake Shelton.
And the winner goes Post Malonefeaturing Blake Shelton.
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Now that's a good one.
It's Pour Me a Drink.
Mm-hmm.
No, uh I like it.
I may have if I were gonna voteon that one, I would have
either have gone with you knowwhat, I probably would have gone
with Riley Green featuring EllaLangley.
I was gonna say Cody Johnsonand Carrie Underwood, but I
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actually think I like RileyGreen and Ella Langley.
Don't mind if I do.
Yeah.
That's pretty solid.
I'm kind of hooked on that songright now.
Yeah.
Alright, let's see.
Let's wrap these last few uphere.
Music video of the year.
Megan Moroney, Cody Johnson,Laney Wilson, Chris Stapleton,
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Ella Langley, and Riley Green.
The winner goes to Ella Langleyand Riley Green.
Tiffany Mason (25:43):
Okay.
Jay Franze (25:43):
That's the one you
were talking about.
Tiffany Mason (25:45):
Probably so.
Yep.
Jay Franze (25:47):
And then Musician of
the Year.
Now this is good.
I like this.
Musician of the Year.
You probably will not recognizethe names, but these are the
musicians that we typically workwith in the recording studio in
Nashville.
Tiffany Mason (26:01):
Okay.
Jay Franze (26:02):
First one, Paul
Franklin.
Plays steel guitar.
Janine Fleenor.
I don't know that name.
Jenny?
J-E-N-E.
Jenny.
Jenny?
Fleenor.
Tiffany Mason (26:22):
Yeah.
Jay Franze (26:23):
Okay.
Fiddle.
Tiffany Mason (26:26):
Maybe it's
supposed to be Jenny.
Jay Franze (26:28):
Jenny?
Yeah.
Jenny Fleenor.
I don't know.
Not somebody I worked with, butsomebody I did work with is
Brent Mason.
Tiffany Mason (26:36):
Yes.
Jay Franze (26:37):
He may remember that
name as best guitar player.
Tiffany Mason (26:40):
Oh, I remember
from one of our episodes.
Yep.
Jay Franze (26:44):
Brent Mason is an
absolutely amazing guitar
player.
One of the best ever.
If I had to go with one, I'dprobably go with Jeff King.
But Brent Mason is clearly thenumber one go-to and has been
for ages, and by far the bestwhen it comes to what they call
chicken picking.
Tiffany Mason (27:04):
Chicken picking.
Jay Franze (27:05):
Musician of the
Year, Paul Franklin.
Congratulations to Paul.
Cool.
And then last but not least,high up on the mountain, Mr.
Vinskill received the WillieNelson Lifetime Achievement
Award.
Tiffany Mason (27:23):
Yeah, that was
pretty cool.
Not bad.
It was cool just to hear whateveryone had to say about him.
And in Chris Stapleton'stribute or whatever to Vinskill,
that he said, you know, thisguy has really poured into me
and invited me into songwriterworkshops that I didn't deserve
to be in the room.
And so that was really coolthat um, you know, that he
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shared that little piece.
I love learning those thingsabout the other artists because
we just get to see the stageperformances.
So it's cool to see a littlebit of their character.
Jay Franze (27:55):
Yeah.
I thought it was pretty cool.
I was talking to my wife aboutit, and I told my wife how he's
just playing with the Eagles.
And she's like, why would hetake a step down like that to go
from selling out arenas on hisown to playing with the Eagles?
I'm like, Well, first of all,the Eagles are huge.
It's not like he's taking astep down, it's just a lateral
move.
That's it's probably somethingthat he wants to do.
(28:18):
He's probably been a big Eaglesfan and just wants to be part
of it.
But he plays in local bands aswell.
Tiffany Mason (28:26):
Oh, interesting.
Jay Franze (28:27):
When I say local
bands, please don't get me
wrong, these are studiomusicians who are the best of
the best, but they just playlocally in Nashville.
They just, you know, he wasplaying at the same bar in
Nashville for weeks on, weeks onweeks for years.
He just would just play thereevery week.
So he is not one to have an egoand say he can only do you know
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stadiums or arenas.
So he's always one to step inand play wherever and whenever
he can.
I think he's just a fan ofmusic in general.
Tiffany Mason (28:59):
Yeah, really
cool.
Well, also, I think that um,you know, when you're the main
artist, there's a lot ofpressure and a lot of stress
that comes with that.
And so it's probably nice tojust show up and play a little
guitar, play a little piano.
Jay Franze (29:12):
Well, if he's
stressed out, he's he's good at
hiding it because he'seffortless for sure.
Tiffany Mason (29:17):
Yeah.
That was something that uh Ithink I'd actually like to ask
you about.
Jay Franze (29:21):
Uh-oh.
Tiffany Mason (29:21):
Speaking of like
effortless things, and like you
know, sometimes people stand upand they just the music just
comes out and you just sort oflike so you want to know how I
live my life so effortlessly.
Yes, that's exactly what thenext uh example I was gonna
share was.
Jay Franze (29:37):
Yeah.
Tiffany Mason (29:39):
Um but I noticed
that Keith Urban when he came
out, he holds his guitar kind oflow, but also plays like just
effortless.
Like he's not actuallytripping, but he does like some
kind of cool swaggery thing whenhe comes out with.
Yeah, where he kind of dragshis foot, does like a skip.
Yeah.
And I was like, I don't feellike other people hold their
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guitar that low.
So do you think that that'slike a Keith Urban thing?
Or is it more common that I'mjust not noticing it?
Jay Franze (30:11):
It's more common in
the rock world.
Tiffany Mason (30:14):
To play lower.
Jay Franze (30:15):
Oh, yeah,
absolutely.
Okay.
I mean, if you look at Slash,that's what his guitar is down
by his knees at all times.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's definitely morecommon in the rock.
World in Nashville, people aremore worried about being
pristine and playing asaccurately as possible.
And in order to do that, thehigher up you hold your guitar,
the easier it is to playaccurately.
(30:36):
And technically, when it'sacross your chest, is where like
proper guitar players will tellyou it needs to be.
Nashville, when you're playinglive, probably hold it a little
lower over their belly, maybe.
Rock stars tend to hold it, youknow, between their knees and
their crotch.
Tiffany Mason (30:53):
Yeah.
I just thought he looked likesuper cool coming out.
And I was like, of course he'sgot like his t-shirt and his
black jeans.
I'm like, of course, of course.
Like, but you're right.
Jay Franze (31:03):
It's harder to play
when it's like that, especially
he, it's like you said,effortless.
He's not looking at his hands,he's just walking and playing
like, yeah, I got this.
I've done this six times.
Tiffany Mason (31:14):
I don't know how
to explain it, but everyone
should go back and watch thereplay of it because this guy
walks out like he's got hishands in his pocket.
Jay Franze (31:20):
Yeah.
Tiffany Mason (31:21):
You know, like
he's just like strolling along.
I'm gonna play this song that Icould just do this all day in
my sleep.
Jay Franze (31:27):
It's funny you say
it too, because there's one
point where he kind of you knowthrows his head backwards like
he's you know, just getting intothings.
And I was thinking to myself,if I threw my head backwards
like that without a guitar,without anything, I would have
fallen on my ass.
I mean, I would have passedout.
Tiffany Mason (31:46):
I think he does
it also to like fix his hair.
Like to get his hair out of hiseyes.
Sure, but you know, I mean, Ithink it's another reason.
I don't know.
I just thought like, wow,you're like the definition of
cool right now.
Jay Franze (31:59):
All right, let's
move on to the news.
Tiffany Mason (32:02):
Okay, well, the
news is gonna start out with our
girl Lainey Wilson.
Just the fact that she gotthree awards at the 59th Annual
CMA Awards.
Entertainer of the year, albumof the year for Whirlwind, and
female vocalist of the year.
Those wins make her the thirdwoman to win Entertainer of the
Year twice, and the second towin Album of the Year twice.
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So, congratulations, LaneyWilson.
Jay Franze (32:29):
She's actually the
third woman ever to host the
show solo.
Tiffany Mason (32:35):
Okay.
I mean, she held her own.
Jay Franze (32:37):
Oh, yeah.
She nailed it.
Tiffany Mason (32:39):
They uh they say,
you know, like on American
Idol, like you have to commandthe whole stage, you have to
take up all the space.
That girl took up all the spaceplus the empty seats in the
stadium or in the arena.
I mean, she's got a hugepersonality and she just feels
like the epitome of countrymusic.
She did a great job.
Yeah.
Okay, well, Miss Ella Langleyand Miranda Lambert, they're
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plotting a big studio move aftertheir hit single.
Ella Langley revealed that sheand Miranda Lambert are working
on something really cool, morethan just songs, following their
duet, Choosing Texas.
I hope you guys saw theperformance of Choosing Texas
during the CMAs.
I am really loving this song,and I want to see it on the
(33:23):
charts, so we'll see if it getsthere.
But the teaser hints at adeeper creative partnership in
the studio, and fans arespeculating about an album or a
tour.
So that's got me.
Jay Franze (33:36):
They have been
working together.
Miranda's got, you know, acouple of production credits on
her album.
Maybe they're putting somethingtogether.
Tiffany Mason (33:45):
Well, they are.
They're working on somethingreally cool, Jay.
Jay Franze (33:48):
Something more than
songs.
I get it.
I want to know what it is.
Is she wearing shoes?
I don't know.
Somebody's gonna tell me, youknow, inquiring minds.
Tiffany Mason (34:01):
Inquiring minds.
Yeah, I want to know.
Okay, well, the next thing Iwant to tell you about, Mr.
Nate Smith, big fan of him, andTyler Hubbard, have joined
forces on After Midnight.
That's the name of their song.
Already making waves with astrong first week.
The duo rolled out a surprisepop-up in downtown Nashville to
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mark the release.
How fun would that have been?
Just hanging out and all of asudden outlocks Nate Smith and
Tyler Hubbard.
Jay Franze (34:30):
I think it's
awesome.
I mean, they took anon-traditional approach to
recording the song.
They kind of made it more of alive approach and they left the
A players behind.
So we'll see.
See how it does.
Tiffany Mason (34:45):
Okay.
Well, we said that uh Morganhad done some non-traditional
recording, right?
Jay Franze (34:50):
Yeah, he likes to
record in the dark.
It's not that that far off thepath, but it is not typical.
But the fact that they didn'tuse A-players, Tim McGraw did
that.
He used his live band to go inthe studio and record.
Tiffany Mason (35:04):
I love it.
Bring it on.
I'm all about a new style, anew way of doing things.
Uh, and really, I mean, ugh.
I get it why they use thestudio performers or musicians,
sorry, studio musicians, but Iwish that they would use their
stage musicians.
Like the guys that make themsound good on a nightly basis or
(35:29):
a concertly basis, you know.
Jay Franze (35:33):
Well, if we take a
look at that for a second, I was
talking to Scotty Simpson aboutthat once because he's a studio
musician as well as a liveplayer, so is Jeff K.
Okay.
But when I was talking to ScottySimpson from the Oak Ridge
Boys, he was saying when he'splaying in the studio, the
responsibility for him is tocome up with something new,
creative, and cool instantly.
(35:55):
Where when he's playing live,it's his responsibility to
recreate something cool thatsomebody else had already
created.
Okay.
So it takes a different mindseta lot of times to be the studio
guy to create something fromscratch and to play it
flawlessly immediately.
Where Jeff King is absolutelyinsane at that.
(36:19):
He can create whatever whatevercomes to his head, he can put
out instantly and flawlessly.
Yeah.
And that is a special kind oftalent.
Where then you get uh musicianswho play live who are not
studio guys who cannot typicallypull that off.
Where Scott and Jeff are theexception, most of your studio
(36:41):
players are not at the samelevel, or I'm sorry, the live
players are not at the samelevel as the studio players.
So they can play and they canplay well, but they have to
practice and rehearse thosesongs and then they master them.
Where Jeff and Scotty, whenthey're in the studio, they can
just master it immediately.
Tiffany Mason (37:01):
Yeah, what a cool
skill.
Jay Franze (37:03):
Yeah.
Tiffany Mason (37:03):
Okay.
Well, I feel like that's a agood eye-opener and a fair
explanation of that.
So that makes sense to me.
Jay Franze (37:09):
Yeah.
That's what we're here for.
We're here to shed a littlelight.
Tiffany Mason (37:15):
Shed a little
light on the city.
Thank you.
Well, Mr.
Stephen Wilson Jr.
shares this priceless advicefrom Eric Church.
The rising star opened up abouta defining piece of career
advice from Eric Church, whichwas slow down and enjoy it.
(37:36):
And I will say he sang, standby me.
And I feel like he milked thatsong.
Jay Franze (37:43):
He slowed down, all
right.
Tiffany Mason (37:44):
He slowed down.
I think he was enjoying it.
But also, like sometimes I dolove when an artist slows down a
song and you're just like dyingfor the next words, right?
Like you know the next words,and you're singing along, and
they are just like, I don't knowhow else to say it, but they're
like effing with you, you know.
Like you're just like, say it,say it.
(38:05):
I know the next words, you'rejust dying, and and they just
like linger, and then thosewords come, and it's almost more
rewarding, I feel like, as alistener, to have that happen.
Jay Franze (38:16):
That's funny you got
that advice from Eric Church
because until you said that, Ididn't really make the
connection, but the two of themare in the same rough genre of
of country music.
They both kind of have thatsame edgy vibe to them and
stuff.
They would be good on tourtogether.
Did you know he not EricChurch, but Steven Wilson Jr.
(38:39):
Junior?
Junior's important junior.
I'm a junior.
Tiffany Mason (38:44):
Okay.
Jay Franze (38:44):
Anyways, he was a
biologist before he went into
country music.
Tiffany Mason (38:49):
Wow, our country
music artists are talented,
y'all.
Jay Franze (38:54):
Who thinks of a
country artist as a biologist?
Tiffany Mason (38:58):
I don't know, but
okay.
I mean, this guy's got kind ofa funky vibe, or the vibe that I
caught from the performance.
He oh, he just gives off likekind of a creepy vibe.
I think his PR needs to work onthat a little bit, but you can
totally see him take thatbaseball cap off, put a white
(39:21):
lab coat on him, and slick hishair down a little bit, and you
can see him holding some beakersand test tubes and trying to
figure it out.
Jay Franze (39:27):
And then he's
working with Kenny.
Kenny, sir, good to see you.
Thanks for joining us tonight.
Tiffany Mason (39:35):
Good to see you,
Kenny.
Okay, well, let's talk aboutRiley Green.
Riley Green is heating up thestage with the worst way
performance, which we did talkabout.
They delivered a memorable livetake of the number one single
Worst Way, the CMA Awards.
The song made history as one ofonly a few solo written number
(39:55):
ones in country in recent years.
Jay Franze (39:58):
That's pretty cool.
Tiffany Mason (39:59):
It was a great
performance.
Jay Franze (40:01):
I feel like these
days every single song out there
has got like 60 differentco-writers on it.
You know, the DoorDash guy whodropped off the food gets a
credit on the song because hewas providing food during that
moment.
I don't know, it's just crazyto me.
I mean, I can understand youyou get a a partner.
Like I always found one partnerand then stuck with him.
(40:24):
Yeah.
In my early days, I wrote withthis guy named Brett Gordon,
very, very talented guy.
And then when I made my way toNashville, I wrote with Jim
Cristaldi, the producer that Iworked with, who's like I said,
the most underrated guitarplayer ever.
This guy's absolutely amazing.
But he wrote with thousands ofpeople, but I didn't.
(40:47):
I just choose one.
It's like, why?
Yeah.
You get something going.
But I get it.
You get creativity anddifferent ideas from different
people.
That's what I tell my wife.
I need to go out and becreative.
No, not good.
Tiffany Mason (41:03):
You don't have to
go hide and cheat.
You can just openly becreative.
Jay Franze (41:07):
Sorry, babe.
I gotta go be creative tonight.
Moving on.
Just a joke, babe.
Just a joke.
Tiffany Mason (41:19):
Moving on to
Vince Gill.
He was visibly moved whileaccepting his CMA Lifetime
Achievement Award, the WillieNelson, sorry, Lifetime
Achievement Award.
His emotional tribute struck achord, and his peers, including
George Strait, Brandy Carlisle,joined in the tribute at the
show.
I thought it was funny thatsomebody said it might have been
(41:40):
him, but that it wasn't lost onhim that Brandy Carlisle was
the one who had done some of hissongs because Vince Gildas tend
to sing a little bit of ahigher register.
Jay Franze (41:49):
So I think that's
one of the reasons why he's
never been one of my favorites.
I like him more as a guitarplayer than a vocalist.
I have an album or two of his,but he's never been my favorite.
I like more of that baritonerange.
Tiffany Mason (42:06):
Yeah.
So you can sing along?
I don't sing along to anything.
Jay Franze (42:12):
You think I fall in
the baritone range?
Tiffany Mason (42:17):
Maybe.
Jay Franze (42:17):
I'll take it.
Tiffany Mason (42:21):
Well, the next
group that I want to tell you
about is the Red Clay Strays.
They got their vocal group Winand hint at changing direction.
I don't want them to changedirection.
But they said that uh they'lleventually make some actual
country music too.
So the Alabama-based bandblends southern rock, soul, and
(42:42):
blues, and now they're leaningfurther towards traditional
country.
Jay Franze (42:46):
It's funny you say
that because they were quoted
once as saying they don't seethemselves as a country band.
Tiffany Mason (42:52):
I wonder if
they're tasting success and
they're being well received, andthey're like, well, crap,
that's where we need to lean in.
Maybe that's where they'refinally getting the recognition
they've been seeking.
Jay Franze (43:05):
I think also I I
produced a record for a guy
named Maddie McCree out of SouthCarolina.
Probably my favorite record Iever produced, one of my
favorite artists I've everworked with.
And he didn't think of himselfas country either.
He thought of himself as rock.
But I think just being fromthat part of the country, even
when you're playing rock music,you know, it comes across as
(43:28):
southern rock and has a countryflair.
I can't imagine somebody comingout of Alabama and playing
anything close to country musicand having it not sound like
country music.
Tiffany Mason (43:39):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jay Franze (43:40):
Well, I guess time
will tell you the Arctic
monkeys.
Either way.
Tiffany Mason (43:47):
Time will tell.
The verdict is out.
We'll be watching.
Jay Franze (43:50):
If you're from
Alabama, you should be sounding
like a southern rock band, butyet somehow you sound like a pop
rock band out of London.
Whatever.
Tiffany Mason (44:01):
Well, some people
that were not at the CMAs,
there's a whole hubbub aboutthese nine shocking absences at
the CMAs.
And I actually wrote them down.
Let me tell you who they were.
The fingers are being pointedat Morgan Wallett, Jelly Roll,
Post Malone, Blake Shilton, RebaMcIntyre, Jason Aldean, Carrie
(44:25):
Underwood, Kane Brown, and LukeBryant.
Now who?
Brian.
Jay Franze (44:35):
You just can't say
it fast.
Tiffany Mason (44:37):
I can't say it
fast.
Some people, like Reba filmingHappy Place and the award.
Jay Franze (44:43):
At least that's a
legitimate reason.
Tiffany Mason (44:46):
Yes, some people
did.
Jason L Gene and his wifeBrittany were in Miami on a date
night.
Jay Franze (44:51):
Not a legitimate
reason.
Tiffany Mason (44:53):
What?
Jay Franze (44:54):
I mean, unless I
mean if they're on vacation for
like a period of time.
And if they're just there for anight for a date, I know.
Tiffany Mason (45:01):
Right.
Right.
I'm not sure the exactcircumstances.
Jay Franze (45:04):
Call them and ask.
Jason, do me a favor.
JFranzi.com, join us.
Let us know.
Tiffany Mason (45:10):
Let us know.
What were you and Brittanydoing?
We will tell you if it waslegitimate that you missed.
Jay Franze (45:16):
We'll tell you if
you have a good enough excuse.
Tiffany Mason (45:20):
We will judge
you.
Okay.
Anyway, there's a wholecommotion about these people
missing.
There was a comment thatBritney made, though.
So they were talking about theCMA Awards, and on Britney's
Instagram, she commented, notmuch love from that one with
raised eyebrows.
(45:41):
So not sure, but they opted fora quieter evening rather than
walking the red carpet atNashville's Bridgetone Arena.
So they were in Miami, not on ared carpet.
I would prefer stand under mytoes.
Jay Franze (45:56):
You just saying that
just reminded me.
It's funny, the Nashville redcarpet in the CMAs, it's it's on
Demumbrian, which is betweenBridgetone and Convention.
Music City Center, right?
Music City Center.
But what happens is peopledon't realize the limousines
drive around the bridge stone,pick up another artist, drive
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them down the red carpet, comearound, pick up another artist,
drive them.
You got probably ten limousinesthat just do this all night
long while they're droppingthese people off.
So if you look close, you'llsee the same drivers, same cars
coming down.
Tiffany Mason (46:31):
I was gonna say,
yeah.
Jay Franze (46:32):
But I took Tim and
Faith down the red carpet, and I
was in a suburban, blacked-outwindows, nobody could see
anything.
But when we we rounded thecorner, photographers were
taking pictures of the car,which apparently lit up so you
could see through the windows,and people could see who was in
the car.
And as soon as that happened,then the crowd, because there
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was a set of bleachers along theMumbrian on the Music City
side, the crowd went nuts, andthey were screaming so loud that
the car was shaken.
And I get out to help them outand down the carpet, and it felt
like I was with the Beatles.
I mean, I've never seenanything like it.
It was absolutely amazing.
(47:18):
I know you say he's notrelevant anymore, but this was
absolutely amazing for sure.
Tiffany Mason (47:24):
Did you try to
sign autographs, Jay?
Did you think that they werescreaming for me?
Jay Franze (47:27):
They were screaming
for me, but the fact that Tim
and Faith were there, I'm gladthey get to experience what that
kind of feeling is like to bearound me.
Tiffany Mason (47:36):
It was nice of
you.
Jay Franze (47:37):
Yeah.
I get it.
I try to do what I can.
Tiffany Mason (47:40):
I share the them
on your coattails.
Jay Franze (47:42):
Got it.
Yeah, of course.
Tiffany Mason (47:46):
Well, if you guys
did not see the CMAs, I would
encourage you to go on to Huluand watch them.
Again, it was hosted by LaneyWilson, and the fans got the
vantage point, which songs andartists would appear live on the
broadcasts and streamingplatforms.
We had Shabuzi walking throughlike a forest or whatever.
We had Kelsey Ballerini singingin the rain.
(48:09):
Yeah, there was all kinds ofstuff that was going on that was
really cool, reallyinteresting.
Um, I think it was ChrisStapleton's one of his
performances where the music wason the sides of him and he was
walking down the center.
Like there was a lot of coolswitch-ups.
So, and then eight outfits fromLainey Wilson, like what?
While we're on the eightoutfits, I really hated her camo
(48:34):
dress with the long greengloves.
Like, come on.
I know she's all country, I getit, but oh man, you just didn't
like it.
It was not my favorite look forher.
Jay Franze (48:44):
Had to end it there.
Tiffany Mason (48:46):
I know.
Sorry, hate mail.
Go ahead.
Jay Franze (48:48):
Before we move on, I
just have to point out that
your mother says yes.
Yes.
They do all love me.
Thank you, Miss Gaffy.
Tiffany Mason (48:58):
Uh see, that's
mom's got some love for Jay.
Jay Franze (49:03):
All right, moving
on.
Question of the day.
Can you ruin a band name bychanging just one letter or
adding one letter?
Can you ruin a band name?
Love you for giving this.
By changing or adding oneletter.
Thank you, Roxanne.
All right.
Here we go.
Let the fun begin.
(49:23):
Oh, wait, one more coming fromyour mother.
Oh, she loved the camo dress.
Tiffany Mason (49:29):
No.
It could have been just thegreen gloves.
I'm not sure if it was just thegloves, but I don't know.
It's something like you want tofeel that award in your hands.
You know, you work so hard forit.
Jay Franze (49:41):
It's not like she
didn't have 50 other awards.
Tiffany Mason (49:43):
That's true.
Jay Franze (49:45):
All right.
Do you want me to tell you thename of the band and what
letters were changed, or youwant me to just tell you the
changed name?
Tiffany Mason (49:52):
No, I think we
gotta do the original and then
what we're changing it into.
Jay Franze (49:57):
All right.
Sarah with an H says cold play.
Tiffany Mason (50:01):
Okay.
Jay Franze (50:02):
Mold play.
Tiffany Mason (50:03):
Mold play.
Jay Franze (50:07):
I think that starts
us off pretty strong, and you
can see where we're headedtonight.
Tiffany Mason (50:11):
Way to go, Sarah.
Jay Franze (50:13):
Jenna says Arosmith.
Tiffany Mason (50:16):
Oh, I want to
hear this one because I was this
was the first one I tried towork on.
Jay Franze (50:20):
You tried to work on
one.
She changed the O in Aerosmithto an A, and you have Area
Smith.
Not quite the same ring.
No.
Kyle says Fleetwood Mac.
No.
We have Fleetwood Map.
Teresa says U2.
(50:44):
U3.
Still cool, but a little lesscool.
I like that one.
Megan.
Megan didn't quite follow therules, or maybe she did, but she
changed two of the letters.
Okay.
Same letters, but she changedthem.
Rascal flats changed to RascalFluffs.
(51:07):
That's about right.
Sorry, Jodon.
You know, you're my favorite.
Jordan says Bon Jovi to BonJovi.
Okay, Tina, watch yourselfhere.
She says journey to journeys.
Sounds like uh mall shoe store.
(51:27):
Oh, wait.
It is a mall shoe store.
Tiffany Mason (51:30):
Oh it seems like
that one stings a little, Jay.
Yeah.
That's all right.
Jay Franze (51:38):
It's not my favorite
band anymore.
Dustin.
Dustin says the Eagles, thebagels.
I like bagels.
Holly, thank you for joiningus, Holly.
Love to have you here.
She says guns and roses, bunsand roses.
Tiffany Mason (51:57):
Yeah.
We've all seen it on thecalendar.
Jay Franze (52:02):
Barry.
R-E-M.
R-E-M.
Says gives that computer errorenergy.
Tiffany Mason (52:12):
That's fine.
That's exactly where I went inmy head with it.
Jay Franze (52:16):
Heather says, the
who?
The what?
Alyssa says foo fighters?
Food fighters?
Paige says maroon five?
No, maroon six.
There's a replacement memberthat nobody knows about.
(52:38):
All right.
Scott says Pearl Jam?
No, Pearl Ham.
Lisa says Toto.
Tofu.
Tiffany Mason (52:56):
I think that's
changing two letters.
Jay Franze (52:58):
Oh, she says
T-O-T-O.
Oh, it is changing two letters.
She's changing the F and the U.
F-U.
That's what she said.
Lucas says the killers.
No, the billers.
Debbie says Lady A.
No, it's Lady O.
(53:19):
Bradley says nickelback.
No, nickelbag.
Now that's all sorts of wrong.
Uh Fiona says heart.
No, it's heat.
Mason, zzy top, zzy tap.
Tiffany Mason (53:39):
Zy tap.
Jay Franze (53:40):
Olivia, the rolling
stones, the rolling scones.
Trevor, Hootie and theBlowfish.
Hootie and the Blowfist.
Tiffany Mason (53:50):
Okay.
Jay Franze (53:51):
A little scared.
Dennis says Paramore.
Paracore.
Tiffany Mason (53:57):
Okay.
Jay Franze (53:58):
Audrey says Kings of
Leon.
Kings of Lean.
Okay.
Audrey, come on, go back to thedrawing board.
Noah says blink 182.
Bling 182.
Victoria says the doors.
No, it's the dooms.
Sean says rush.
(54:19):
No, it's mush.
Tiffany Mason (54:23):
Oh my gosh, did
you get tickets?
Are you going to go see mush?
Jay Franze (54:27):
Nice.
Big Mike.
Not just Mike.
Big Mike.
Big says slip knot.
No, it's slips knot.
Cody says blink 182.
No, it's sync 182.
Tiffany Mason (54:43):
Sounds like a
hater.
Jay Franze (54:45):
Andrew says Pantera.
No, it's Poontera.
Tiffany Mason (54:49):
Ooh.
Jay Franze (54:51):
It's a whole
different band.
It's the female murder.
Tiffany Mason (54:55):
I'll say.
Jay Franze (54:56):
Shelly says Alabama
shakes?
No, it's Alabama Snakes.
Ooh.
Dave Jackson.
Say his full name because he'sprevious guest of the show.
Says it's not kiss, it's piss.
Tiffany Mason (55:10):
I liked that one.
Jay Franze (55:14):
Oh, Liz May.
I said her last name because,well, I wasn't paying attention.
She says four ton blondes.
Tiffany Mason (55:25):
I love that.
Instead of four non-blondes foranybody who didn't connect the
dots.
Jay Franze (55:32):
Sarah, it's not
Metallica.
It's Metallic.
Jay says it's not the Beatles.
It's the Beagles.
Tiffany Mason (55:42):
And I like on
that one there was a picture of
four dogs in the Beatles thealbum where they have the like
band uniforms on and they're inprimary, well, kind of primary
colors.
Jay Franze (55:53):
Yeah.
Tiffany Mason (55:54):
Funny.
Jay Franze (55:55):
Daniel says it's not
Art Garfunkel.
It's Fart Garfunkel.
Danny says it's not FleetwoodMac, it's Fleetwood Mad.
You know what?
That's probably the better namebecause they were mad an awful
lot.
Tiffany Mason (56:09):
They were mad a
lot.
Hey, some great music came outof it.
Jay Franze (56:13):
Ollie, my friend,
glad you're here.
You said yes, but you didn'tchange it.
So we need you to change it ifyou're going to participate,
Ollie.
You know you're one of myfavorites, but you gotta follow
the rules.
Mark Bodalato.
Previous guest of the show.
(56:35):
He says it's not mega death,it's mega meth.
Alright.
And the last, last one on ourlist, Maya Project Music.
It's not tool, it's stool.
It's kind of a shit to end on.
Tiffany Mason (56:58):
Pun intended.
Jay Franze (57:00):
Pun intended.
Oh, mercy me.
Alright, that was good.
That was fun.
I enjoyed it.
Tiffany Mason (57:07):
Wait, did you
come up with any?
Jay Franze (57:09):
Did I come up with
any?
No, you know what?
I didn't.
I didn't even think about it.
Tiffany Mason (57:14):
Okay, well, let
me share two for us.
Jay Franze (57:16):
Oh you know what?
Okay.
Go ahead, share your two.
Share one for me.
Tiffany Mason (57:22):
Okay.
Well, this one I'm gonna sharefor you because this feels
appropriate.
So instead of bad company, youadd an L and you get bald
company.
Jay Franze (57:33):
Do you mean bald?
Tiffany Mason (57:36):
Bald.
Jay Franze (57:37):
Bald?
Tiffany Mason (57:38):
As in no hair?
Jay Franze (57:40):
As in bald.
Tiffany Mason (57:41):
As in bald.
Jay Franze (57:43):
Why do you keep
saying bald?
Tiffany Mason (57:45):
Bald.
Jay Franze (57:47):
Dear God.
Woman, we're talking about thataccent.
Tiffany.
You're fired.
Tiffany Mason (57:56):
Bald, I guess I
can't say it.
Jay Franze (58:00):
All right.
Yep.
Thanks.
Thanks for thinking of me.
All right, what's the otherone?
Tiffany Mason (58:05):
Okay, the other
one is for the go-go's.
Now, on one user they change.
That's what I was gonna changeit to was the ho-hos.
And then I thought, well, itcould be the go-hos.
If you literally only changeone letter.
Jay Franze (58:20):
Change one letter,
the G.
Tiffany Mason (58:23):
I know, but if
you only changed one of the G's,
it could be the go-hos.
Jay Franze (58:29):
Go back to the lot.
All right, before we get intomuch trouble, let's move on to
the countdown.
Tiffany Mason (58:37):
The country
charts starting at number 10.
Jay Franze (58:40):
Oh, that's a good
idea.
Tiffany Mason (58:43):
We actually have
Blake Shelton debuting with a
new song, Stay Country or DieTrying.
Jay Franze (58:49):
I like it.
Tiffany Mason (58:51):
Okay.
We have Megan Moroni coming inat number nine with six months
later.
And I knew the lyrics, but theyfinally stuck.
Okay.
Like, you know, I'm all aboutthe words, right?
And I think it's funny that itsays, what doesn't kill you
makes you stronger and blonderand hotter.
And then it says, but we'llcall you six months later.
(59:17):
Anyway, funny songs, funnylyrics.
I am enjoying it.
Spot number eight.
Ready for spot number eight,Jay?
Jay Franze (59:24):
I'm ready for spot
number eight.
Tiffany Mason (59:26):
Okay.
Jay Franze (59:27):
Let me count it down
for you.
Three, two, one.
Tiffany Mason (59:33):
Well, it's Tucker
Wetmore with three, two, one.
Spot number seven, ParkerMcCollum, what kind of man?
I do like that song.
Okay.
Well, Riley Green is Holdin'Steady with Don't Mind If I Do
with the beautiful Ella Langley.
Jay Franze (59:53):
That I like.
Tiffany Mason (59:55):
That we like.
Spot number five with Harmale.
The song Cowgirl.
I like that song.
Jay Franze (01:00:03):
Yeah.
Tiffany Mason (01:00:03):
No?
Yeah.
It's not my favorite.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Spot number four is Mr.
Luke Combs Back in the Saddle.
Jay Franze (01:00:12):
No, that one I like.
Tiffany Mason (01:00:13):
Love it.
Jay Franze (01:00:14):
Love it.
I like me some comeback song.
Tiffany Mason (01:00:17):
Yeah.
Love it.
Spot number three is LaneyWilson.
Somewhere.
Yeah, she is in some place.
Laredo.
Chase Matthews with Darlin.
Jay Franze (01:00:31):
Chase Matthew.
He's singular.
Tiffany Mason (01:00:33):
Chase Matthew,
that's what I said.
Jay Franze (01:00:35):
It was the accent.
Tiffany Mason (01:00:36):
Yeah, it was the
accent.
With Darlin.
Spot number two, holdingsteady.
And spot number one is mybeloved song by Jackson Dean,
Heavens to Batsy.
Jay Franze (01:00:50):
I like that one.
Give them a little bit ofapplause for that.
Tiffany Mason (01:00:55):
Just a little
bit.
Just a little too.
Jay Franze (01:00:57):
I know you don't
like it.
You want it to be singular.
However, yeah.
It's plural.
Tiffany Mason (01:01:02):
Yeah.
Heavens to Batsy.
Jay Franze (01:01:08):
All right.
We're going to go ahead andmove on to the mailbag.
Tiffany Mason (01:01:11):
What are the crew
members saying?
Jay Franze (01:01:14):
Crew members are
saying a lot.
Tiffany Mason (01:01:16):
Okay.
Yikes.
Jay Franze (01:01:18):
All right.
Let's start off with Riley fromChattanooga.
Tiffany Mason (01:01:22):
Love me some
Chattanooga.
Jay Franze (01:01:23):
Chattanooga.
Do you think major labels aresigning too many TikTok artists
who actually can't perform live?
Is this hurting the long-termhealth of country music?
Tiffany Mason (01:01:36):
Hmm.
How long is a traditionalagreement with a large record
label?
Jay Franze (01:01:45):
Like anything else,
it depends.
You could have a one-recorddeal to see how it's going to
go.
You could have a three-recorddeal, or you could have a
five-record deal.
Or these days, who knows?
Tiffany Mason (01:01:55):
So I ask that
because I'm thinking of how I
said they're on the charts along time, and you said this is
a very short time to be on thecharts.
And so it's kind of comparingyesteryear or, you know, how it
was to how it is nowadays.
And I think that there'sprobably some validity in that
(01:02:20):
question about TikTokers and notbeing able to perform.
But also, aren't there juststudio artists?
I mean, not everybody goes ontour, do they?
Jay Franze (01:02:32):
There are artists
who prefer to be studio artists,
but they typically aren't theones making a lot of money.
Okay.
Because artists these days maketheir money from touring.
Okay.
Touring and the sale ofmerchandise.
And even then, there's so manypeople taking a cut of things
these days.
Even the venue is taking a cutof your merchandise these days,
(01:02:54):
which is insane.
So, yeah, there's so many handson the pie right now because
nobody knows how to make moneywith the industry anymore
because you're no longer sellinga physical product.
You know, record labels are bigon 360 deals, which means they
take a piece of everything thatyou do because there's no
physical product for them toproduce anymore, and then they
have to rely on the other.
Tiffany Mason (01:03:11):
What does the
number 360 represent?
Jay Franze (01:03:13):
That they're taking
a piece of everything.
So instead of instead of justtaking a piece of your
mechanical royalties, which isthe royalties on the physical
product of your CD, they are nowtaking a piece of your tour, a
piece of your merch, a piece ofeverything that you do.
It's common, but remember theyare the bank, they are the ones
(01:03:35):
paying for all the stuff thatyou're doing.
Right.
They do deserve a piece.
The question is, you know, howbig of a piece and are they
taking so much that the artistcan't survive?
Yeah.
So there has to be that balancein my mind.
But do I think that TikTokartists are gonna keep flooding
the market?
(01:03:55):
Yes, because I think anybodywho has any sort of popularity
will flood the market.
However, let's talk abouttalented artists.
You mentioned Chase Matthew.
Chase Matthew, to me, is atalented artist, but he hasn't
reached that line yet.
Like we talk about LaineyWilson as being, you know, still
a fairly new artist, but astandout artist.
(01:04:17):
Like there's no doubt she isgonna be every bit as relevant
as Tim McGraw, Faith Hill, orthose artists that you remember
from the 90s, she will beremembered in another decade or
two.
Tiffany Mason (01:04:31):
Well, when Garth
Brooks gave her her award, he
said, I have no doubt that yourcareer will be as long as you
want it to be.
Jay Franze (01:04:40):
Yeah.
Tiffany Mason (01:04:41):
You know, he was
like, the fans will back you.
So, you know, the sky's thelimit for you.
Jay Franze (01:04:46):
But right now, Chase
Matthew hasn't reached that
point.
Tiffany Mason (01:04:50):
Yeah.
Jay Franze (01:04:51):
If he left the
industry right now, in a decade
or two, nobody's gonna rememberwho he was.
Tiffany Mason (01:04:55):
Yeah.
Jay Franze (01:04:56):
There's plenty of
artists like that throughout the
years, like Steve Holey.
I went on the road with SteveHoley with Matt McClure.
Matt McClure was their livesound engineer, and I went out
and supported Matt.
And Steve Holey had a numberone hit, Good Morning Beautiful.
And nobody knows who SteveHoley is now.
You know the song, but youdon't know who Steve Holey is
(01:05:17):
because he never reached thatpoint.
He never crossed that line.
Yeah.
At some point, these artistshave to cross the line to be
remembered.
That's the problem that Von Rayhad.
Von Ray being one of the bestrock bands I've ever seen, they
went on the road with Nickelbackand Creed and Sister Hazel and
all these bands from the 90sthat everybody remembers, but
(01:05:38):
Von Ray never crossed the line.
If they had one more single,they would have crossed the
line.
Because Creed and Nickelback,they're all going on tour now,
and they're just as popular nowas they were back in the day.
Von Ray, I think they would bepopular, but I don't they're
just not going to sell outarenas like Creed and Nickelback
(01:05:59):
do.
So I think that's the problemwe're having.
Tiffany Mason (01:06:02):
Nickelbag or
Nickelback?
Jay Franze (01:06:04):
Either way.
All right.
Hannah with an H.
What's the biggest factorholding indie artists back right
now?
Is it lack of radio play, lackof funding, or just the
streaming algorithms?
Well, if we're talking abouttrue indie artists, it's money.
That's what the record labelsare.
(01:06:25):
They are a bank, they fundthings, they have connections.
They're a bank withconnections.
So if you don't have thoseconnections and you don't have
the money, you'll never make itas far as a major label artist.
But if you have money and youhave connections, you have the
ability to do it yourself.
So I think if you're going totalk about truly what's holding
an indie artist back, it'smoney.
(01:06:47):
Alright, next, Jamie.
Love the way the show flowslately.
It feels tighter, sharper, andhonestly, it's a little bit more
fun than national shows.
Jamie?
Tiffany Mason (01:07:02):
All right.
Jay Franze (01:07:03):
I will take that.
Tiffany Mason (01:07:04):
Thank you.
Jay Franze (01:07:06):
Leila?
L E I L A?
Tiffany Mason (01:07:09):
Layla.
Jay Franze (01:07:11):
Layla or Leela?
Tiffany Mason (01:07:13):
Layla.
Jay Franze (01:07:14):
Layla.
Let's go with Layla.
Tiffany.
I hate the ones that start offwith Tiffany.
There's so many that start offwith Tiffany.
It's like, can you think of adifferent way to start something
off?
Tiffany.
Whatever you're doing with youron-air energy lately, woo.
(01:07:34):
It's giving seasoned host flairand chaos in the best way.
I love it.
I don't even know what thatmeans.
Tiffany Mason (01:07:45):
Well, there has
been definitely chaos.
Don't know what it means.
Jay Franze (01:07:50):
Wes, how much does
char position really matter
anymore?
Are artists still chasingbillboard the way they used to?
Or is it just the hype?
Is that hype fading?
I would say I don't think charposition really matters anymore.
I think that's a controversialstance, but I don't think it
really does matter anymore.
I think it matters if you wantto get paid.
(01:08:11):
If you are a songwriter.
Tiffany Mason (01:08:13):
What puts them on
the chart?
Jay Franze (01:08:15):
The money that gets
behind an artist, like a record
label promoting their artist, Ithink that has a lot to do with
it.
You have the ones that make itnaturally, but it's fewer and
further between.
Tiffany Mason (01:08:28):
So do you think
that the better unit of
measurement is streaming?
Jay Franze (01:08:34):
You know what?
Oh man, I I would hate to sayit, but yeah, I mean, but even
that can be faked.
That can be faked very easily.
You can buy streams, recordlabels are buying streams.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
When these people are hittingmillions of streams, a lot of
that is bull.
So you know, I hate to say thattoo, but it is.
It's it's bull.
So it's kind of unfortunate.
(01:08:56):
But that's okay.
Tiffany Mason (01:08:57):
Okay, so wait,
what was the original comment?
Jay Franze (01:09:00):
How much does char
position really matter?
Tiffany Mason (01:09:03):
So not that much.
Jay Franze (01:09:04):
Are artists chasing
Billboard the way they used to?
Or is the hype fading?
Tiffany Mason (01:09:10):
I think the hype
is fading.
I think it's a nice braggingrate.
You know, it's like fun to postsomewhere.
Jay Franze (01:09:18):
I think it's great
to have number one plaques and
number one parties and all thatstuff if you're hitting number
one.
Yep.
But if we take it away from theartist and go back to the
songwriter, it means a lot.
Because that songwriter can saythey had a number one hit.
And if that songwriter'sgetting a number one hit, then
other artists want thatsongwriter to write for them.
(01:09:40):
Not to mention that thatsongwriter's getting a payday.
Now that payday may not be whatit used to be.
Tiffany Mason (01:09:46):
So maybe the
artists are not pursuing the
charts, but maybe thesongwriters are pursuing the
charts.
Jay Franze (01:09:51):
I mean the charts
definitely still matter to the
songwriter.
Tiffany Mason (01:09:55):
Yeah.
Jay Franze (01:09:56):
All right.
Zane Big Country.
Zane, Big Country.
He's got a last name too, butI'm not gonna read it.
Tiffany Mason (01:10:05):
He's got himself
a Ford 350.
350.
Jay Franze (01:10:10):
Nice, super duty.
Jay, your questions sound likethey come from someone who's
been in the trenches.
It makes the artist open up ina way you don't hear anywhere
else.
Tiffany Mason (01:10:22):
I would agree
with that.
I think you have a good way ofbuilding trust.
And when the artist trusts you,they're more willing to drop
their guard and be a little bitmore authentic.
So I would agree with that.
Jay Franze (01:10:34):
He mentions McBride
and the Ride.
McBride and the Ride had acouple stories that were
released during that episodethat you will not hear anywhere
else.
Running around naked through ahotel or talking about having a
small penis.
Oh, yeah.
So two things that you probablywouldn't find anywhere else.
I will take that as acompliment.
Thank you, big country.
(01:10:56):
Big country used to be an MMAfighter.
Tiffany Mason (01:11:00):
Oh wow, cool.
Jay Franze (01:11:02):
Don't know if it's
that big country.
If it is, I'll be thrilled.
Hey, big country, go ahead andthrow that in the comments.
Tiffany Mason (01:11:07):
Let us know.
Jay Franze (01:11:08):
Aaron, Tiffany.
I mean, it starts off.
We can't even just throw that alittle later in the comments.
Tiffany Mason (01:11:16):
They want to
know.
They know.
They're like, I'm gonna get herattention.
Jay Franze (01:11:20):
Aaron says, Tiffany
deserves her own segment called
Tiff's Truth Bombs.
Now we know that's not gonnahappen because Tiffany doesn't
like Tiff.
But Tiffany deserves her ownsegment called Tiff's Truth
Bombs.
Okay.
Tell us some truth bombs, girl.
Tiffany Mason (01:11:40):
I'll tell you LA.
You know, I'm one of thosepeople, if my mouth doesn't say
it, my face will.
So sometimes I gotta just letthe truth out.
Jay Franze (01:11:51):
DJ Longhaul.
DJ Longhall.
You think so?
Tiffany Mason (01:11:56):
Or he's packing.
Jay Franze (01:12:00):
It says haul.
Long haul.
Long haul.
What's your take on genreblending?
Is country becoming moreopen-minded or is it losing its
core sound?
I would say it's losing itscore sound.
(01:12:21):
I'm more of a purist.
I want if I want to hear popmusic, I'll turn on a pop
station.
If I want to hear you know RBor hip hop, I'll turn on those.
But at the same time, it's hardbecause I like some of those
songs.
I just have a hard time callingthem really country anymore.
Tiffany Mason (01:12:43):
I also think
though, like with Laney Wilson,
Zach Top, they're bringingcountry back.
Jay Franze (01:12:51):
I don't know if that
was necessary.
Tiffany Mason (01:12:54):
That's not
country.
Um, but it does feel like that.
It does feel like that.
Um, I don't know, country ofroots, like they're more strong
with those artists.
Jay Franze (01:13:07):
Yeah, I I mean I
know all music uh evolves.
But if all music you knowstarts collaborating and
morphing into each other, thenwe're gonna just end up with one
style of music.
Tiffany Mason (01:13:22):
Yeah.
Jay Franze (01:13:23):
I prefer keeping the
genres split.
I like country music beingcountry music.
Tiffany Mason (01:13:29):
I want people to
collab still, but if you're
gonna be a pop artist and collabwith a country artist, you're
the feature, then it shouldsound country.
If you're the pop artist andit's a country artist being
featured, then it shouldprobably sound like pop.
Like I want the main artist tostay in their lane, and then the
(01:13:50):
feature person can just kind ofyou know have a spotlight in
the pop song or a spotlight inthe country song.
But I would agree with you.
Jay Franze (01:13:58):
What about when you
get an artist like Chase
Matthew, who does the countryclub music and there's no
featured artist?
It's just Chase with uh, youknow, club beat behind it.
Tiffany Mason (01:14:09):
I then I'm with
you.
I want it to sound morecountry.
Jay Franze (01:14:12):
You know, I don't
mind inspiration or, you know,
like when Jason Aldean adds alittle flair to a song, but I
don't want the song to be 100%that flair I want.
Otherwise, it's no longerflair.
You just recorded a pop song.
Tiffany Mason (01:14:32):
Well, it's funny,
my mother-in-law is visiting
and made a good point aboutcountry music.
Well, yeah, about countrymusic, and she was saying how
she really appreciates, youknow, the 90s artists, and she
was like, when they sing, youcan really tell who it is.
And she said, with all thesynth and everything that goes
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into some of these songs, youknow, you don't hear real
instruments and the voices arestarting to sound similar to
each other.
And I was like, okay, I thinkthere's some validity in that
statement.
Jay Franze (01:15:06):
Yes, I've always
said when people ask me, you
know, what my favorite music is,even my daughter was asked me
that the other day.
My daughter Bella, my15-year-old eldest daughter, was
asking me what my favoritestyle of music was.
And I always say rock or hardrock and country.
Those are my my favorites, rockand country.
But I think it's traditionalinstruments.
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Like even when you do folkmusic or you do bluegrass music,
as long as it's traditionalinstruments, I can get behind
it.
It's when you start using abunch of non-traditional
instruments or samples or youknow, things like that where I
kind of lose my my interest.
You're no longer my favorite.
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Let's put it that way.
All right, I'm highlighting afew here that I think are good
for us to end off with.
Let's see, I've got three more.
Tiffany Mason (01:16:00):
Okay.
Jay Franze (01:16:01):
All right, let's
start with.
We must be popular withtruckers.
You think that's a thing?
Highway Harper.
Tiffany Mason (01:16:12):
You know what?
They are on the road a longtime, and they need something
other than the radio to keepthem.
They need two cool cats.
Do me a favor.
Jay Franze (01:16:24):
I want you to honk
that horn right now.
As you pass through town, honkit three times.
I want to know you're here.
All right.
Highway Harper says, J man,when you're passionate about an
artist that you believe in,that's when the show takes on a
whole new gear.
More of that, please.
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When is an artist worth talkingabout?
We want to talk about them forsure.
All right.
Um L I A N A.
Tiffany Mason (01:16:55):
Lena?
Elena?
Jay Franze (01:16:57):
Lisa?
Laura?
Tiffany Mason (01:17:01):
Marie.
Jay Franze (01:17:02):
Marie.
There you go.
Marie says, no.
Liana?
I don't know.
I feel like Liana?
Liana?
Let's go with Liana.
Okay.
Liana.
And if we're wrong, please putit in the comments.
We don't mean to butcher it.
We truly do want to treat youwith respect.
We just don't know how to dothat.
For multiple reasons, we don'tknow how treat you with respect.
Tiffany Mason (01:17:25):
It's mostly Jay.
You know, like how they say,like, it's me, it's not you.
Yeah.
That's what they're saying.
It's definitely me.
Jay Franze (01:17:33):
Liana says, with so
many artists recording remotely,
do you think that the NashvilleStudio magic is starting to
disappear?
Or is it just evolving?
Ooh, Liana, you hit a big onethere.
Unfortunately.
I think it is disappearing.
(01:17:54):
This has been something goingon, you know, let's let's say
for a while now.
Let's say the past 20 years.
It's been getting more and morewhere record labels and artists
don't want to pay the bigstudio prices anymore.
So what they've been doing isthey go in the studio to record
their basic tracks.
Which means that they go in thestudio with the eight
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musicians, they play the basicsof the song, and then the
producers have been taking thoserecordings back to their home
and doing the overdubs, whetherthat be the guitar solos or
utility players, a fiddle or amandolin.
And then they do the vocals andthe background vocals.
So they do that because of howeasy it is these days with Pro
(01:18:38):
Tool systems being so readilyavailable that these people can
now go home and record.
So that's been going on forquite a while.
But now it's taking that stepeven further and further with
people programming music with AIbeing able to play music.
People can now take anon-treated environment and
(01:18:59):
create a very good soundingproduct.
So, yes, you're losing themagic of those eight players in
the room playing the basictracks of those songs.
And even when the producerswere taking those eight players
from the studio and taking themhome, you're losing the magic of
the singer and the backgroundvocals and the fiddle player all
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being in the big studio withthose players and spending time
recording a song together as aas a team.
You turned it into more of anindividual layering sport versus
a team effort.
So do I think it's losing itsmagic?
Unfortunately, you know, Ireally do think it is.
Sorry.
Tiffany Mason (01:19:40):
Yeah, and with
like how we've been talking
about how AI, you know, makingtracks that way.
Um shoot, I was gonna makeanother point.
Jay Franze (01:19:51):
Uh it hurts
sometimes.
I think unfortunately,especially in Nashville with all
the big studios closing, we'regonna get less and less and less
of that as time goes on.
Tiffany Mason (01:20:02):
That was my other
point.
Thank you.
Jay Franze (01:20:05):
Oh, you're so
welcome.
Tiffany Mason (01:20:06):
Yes, that music
row has changed so much.
Yeah.
So I think the landscape, theactual physical landscape is
starting to change as well.
Jay Franze (01:20:15):
All right.
I said I would give you onemore, and then I saw that it
starts with the word Tiffany.
Tiffany Mason (01:20:21):
Oh gosh.
Jay Franze (01:20:23):
So I m moved on to
see if I could find another one.
Tiffany Mason (01:20:27):
He dog.
Jay Franze (01:20:28):
And I found another
one that starts with the word
Tiffany.
So we can either do two more,or I can tell you the two names
and you can choose which one.
Tiffany Mason (01:20:39):
Um, we can do
one.
Tell me the two names, and I'llchoose.
Well, for sake of you know,listener entertainment.
Jay Franze (01:20:48):
Tina or the real
Maggie Mae.
Tiffany Mason (01:20:52):
Wow, how fun is
it to say the real Maggie Mae?
Well, the real Maggie Mae,please stand up.
Please stand up.
Jay Franze (01:21:02):
All right.
Tiffany, you keep the showgrounded.
You add the heart in theperspective that we didn't know
we needed.
Tiffany Mason (01:21:13):
Aw.
Well, you're very welcome,Maggie Mae.
Jay Franze (01:21:20):
Oh.
And Tina says, Tiffany.
I can't bring up her name andnot read her comment.
Tiffany, thank you for beingthe voice of the listener.
I swear you're asking thequestions that I'm thinking.
Tiffany Mason (01:21:35):
Oh, good.
Good.
Happy to do so.
There you go.
Sometimes it's intimidating,honestly, because Jay, you're
like so experienced and know allthe right terminology.
And you know, you've beenthere, done that, and have all
this experience.
And I'm just like, I likemusic.
Jay Franze (01:21:56):
What is going on
with you this week, my friend?
Tiffany Mason (01:22:01):
Well, I finally
got to go see Steven Quinn.
You guys have heard me talkabout him and brag about him,
and I finally got to go.
I almost got to go on Fridaynight, I think Friday night, and
then that ended up fallingthrough.
So I was like, okay, I'm justgonna stick to my original plan.
I'm gonna go on Sunday, but Ithought my daughter had a flag
(01:22:21):
football game, and she did not.
So she actually came with meand we got to go check out
Steven Quinn and listen.
And she was ecstatic because heplayed some Morgan Wallen cover
tunes.
So she was, you know, over themoon excited.
No, and then it was reallydifficult.
Okay.
Jay Franze (01:22:39):
Does she realize
that her night out was really
gonna be parent neglect?
Tiffany Mason (01:22:48):
Well, it wouldn't
have been full parent neglect.
She plays two games.
Jay Franze (01:22:51):
Yes.
Tiffany Mason (01:22:52):
She plays two
games.
I would have seen one full gameand watched half of the other.
Yeah.
So at that point, my parentalduties have been fulfilled and I
would be leaving her with herfather.
So zero guilt, and I would havegone on my married pay.
But this was more fun to haveher come with.
And you know, I played some ofhis music for her.
So it was fun to have her hearhim play it live.
(01:23:16):
And then her friend, who hastaken vocal lessons for years,
and she looked at me and she'slike, he can really sing.
And I was like, right?
He sounds so good.
So it was fun that, you know,she has some vocal knowledge and
could vouch what I think soundsgood actually is good.
And he just has a ton ofpersonality.
(01:23:38):
So he was having a good time.
His family was there, friendswere there, and of course,
myself.
So we had a good time.
Of course, of course, becausewe all know as Chris Kizia
sings, turn the night on.
I'm turning the night on.
Jay Franze (01:23:50):
So it's gonna rub
its hair.
Tiffany Mason (01:23:56):
And then and then
tonight, my little baby
granddaughter.
I can't even believe I am agrandmother, but I am.
And she turned one.
84.
So we got to yep, about 85.
And I got to um I we got tocelebrate her and watch her dig
into the cake for the firsttime.
Nothing's better when the babythan when the baby realizes
(01:24:19):
like, wait a minute.
Jay Franze (01:24:19):
Smash cake.
Tiffany Mason (01:24:20):
Yes, smash cake.
And they realize that they canlike devour the whole cake.
So she started, you know,petite where they just lick a
little bit of frosting and thenshe just went in for it like
three or four times for justmouthfuls.
So that was really awesome.
So very good week here.
And actually, Stephen Quinn isgoing to be performing again on
Sunday before he heads back upto Nashville.
(01:24:42):
So I think I'm gonna try tocatch him one more time.
Jay Franze (01:24:45):
Not bad.
Tiffany Mason (01:24:46):
Yeah, I'm very
excited.
Did you end up going toLaurie's Roadhouse?
Laurie's Roadhouse.
Jay Franze (01:24:52):
Laurie's Roadhouse.
Laurie.
L-O-R-I apostrophe.
Laurie.
Laurie.
Laurie's Roadhouse.
Yes, I went to Laurie'sRoadhouse.
I took my daughter Bella.
Tiffany Mason (01:25:08):
Nice.
Which is somebody finally wentwith you.
Jay Franze (01:25:11):
So good time for me.
And it's always funny for me totake my, well, this one was 15,
but I took my 11-year-old tosee Johnny James to a bar.
Tiffany Mason (01:25:22):
Yeah, yeah.
Jay Franze (01:25:23):
I'm parent of the
year for sure.
We were walking in, Bella goes,Do I get to drink beer tonight?
Tiffany Mason (01:25:31):
Now, do you ever
get dirty looks like, sir, you
are way too old to be datingthis young girl?
Jay Franze (01:25:36):
Well, I thought you
were gonna say dirty looks for
taking a minor into a bar.
Bella looks like she's oldenough to be in a bar.
Tiffany Mason (01:25:43):
Right.
Jay Franze (01:25:44):
She doesn't look
like she's old enough to be
dating me.
Tiffany Mason (01:25:46):
So well,
sometimes they don't look old
enough to date the men thatthey're dating, but they're
still dating them.
And I just remember my dad usedto get just dirty looks.
Like he'd be like, Can I takeyou out for lunch?
We'd go to lunch.
I'm having lunch with my dad.
And the people would just givehim just nasty looks like you
should not be dating her.
Jay Franze (01:26:07):
I like to think that
people realize that it's my
daughter, but no, I don't evenwant to think about it.
No, it's my daughter.
No, I don't get dirty looks atall.
People all know that.
I mean, helps that I can makeher wear a hat that says
daughter on it, but you know.
Tiffany Mason (01:26:20):
Yeah, this is my
daughter.
Jay Franze (01:26:22):
On the back, it says
I'm still 12.
Don't look here, I'm 12.
Tiffany Mason (01:26:28):
The other day
somebody asked Hannah how old
she was, and the person waslike, Oh, I would have guessed
you like literally five yearsolder than what she actually is,
and I was like, That's aproblem.
Jay Franze (01:26:38):
That's when you say
stop.
You know what?
You shouldn't be thinking aboutit.
Tiffany Mason (01:26:42):
Right.
All right, but yes, let's notworry about how old she is.
Jay Franze (01:26:45):
I took my daughter
Bella to see Cory Hooker in the
Cadillac Preachers.
Tiffany Mason (01:26:51):
Okay, great name.
Sure, she loved that.
Jay Franze (01:26:53):
It's a good name,
and she did enjoy it.
It was fun.
Tiffany Mason (01:26:56):
How did you rope
her into coming to see them?
Because if I would have toldHannah that name, she'd been
like, no.
Jay Franze (01:27:01):
I think it was more
of I said, Hey, I'm gonna go to
Laurie's Roadhouse tonight.
I'd like to take you.
You want to check it out?
You know, I took her and sheactually had dog training.
This was a Friday night, so shehad dog training.
I had to wait for her to comehome for the dog training.
So we got there and we orderedsome dinner, and there was a
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single, you know, an artistplaying a solo gig with just an
acoustic guitar.
We didn't know if that wasCorey or not, because at this
time we did not know who CoryHooker was.
Now the name says and theCadillac Preachers, so I assumed
it was a full band.
So when my daughter and I weretalking, I'm like, I hope it
wasn't just a solo gig tonight.
I was kind of excited to seethe band.
(01:27:43):
But the solo artist was reallygood.
I don't know who it was.
I need to find out.
But we we watched that and wewatched like the remaining three
songs, and then Corey and theband came on, and we got to see
the the full band play.
It was very good, and his wifewas selling merch, and it was
handmade merch.
So, I mean, it really ahands-on team for sure.
(01:28:05):
It reminded What does thatmean?
Tiffany Mason (01:28:07):
Like a t-shirt
that his wife pressed the
transfers or what?
Jay Franze (01:28:11):
Yeah, I don't know.
Like she painted them.
I mean, how was it handmade?
Stitch stuff.
I mean, she did okay.
I mean, she did it all.
I mean, it looked really,really impressive, but it had a
home homemade feel to it.
It was really, really nice,really cool.
Cool.
So, and she was a very niceperson too.
But we sat there, we watchedthe show, it was very good.
(01:28:33):
Like I said, I've never seenthem before.
This was something that I justwent there thinking, you know,
hey, this sounds like it couldbe a cool night.
Yeah.
So we went, we enjoyed it.
I reached out to him after thefact, told him I enjoyed it, and
we started talking, and I askedhim to come on the show.
So he is gonna be coming on theshow.
Fine.
We will get to talk to him.
(01:28:53):
I think it's tomorrow night.
Or was it Thursday?
I think it was Thursday.
We were gonna do Thanksgivingnight.
Tiffany Mason (01:29:00):
No, so no, our
families would not be happy with
us.
Jay Franze (01:29:05):
My family's never
happy with me.
But, anyways, yes, Cory Hookerand the Cadillac Preachers, they
were a very good band.
It was very fun, and like Isaid, he has agreed to come on
the show.
Tiffany Mason (01:29:16):
Awesome.
Jay Franze (01:29:17):
Looking forward to
that.
All right, let's crash it.
Tiffany Mason (01:29:20):
Let's crash it.
Jay Franze (01:29:21):
All right, folks, we
have reached the top of the
hour.
We've actually reached the topof hour number two, which does
mean we have reached the end ofthe show.
If you've enjoyed the show,please tell a friend.
I know we say it a lot, but ifyou've enjoyed the show, please
tell a friend.
Miss Tiffany, if you have not,tell two.
Tell two.
You can reach out to the two ofus over at jfranzie.com.
(01:29:43):
We will be happy to keep thisconversation going.
Actually, we'd probably like totalk about something else.
Yeah.
Reach out to us over there.
We'll talk to you aboutsomething else too.
Either way, whatever works foryou.
You can also find our socialsand anything else you want to
know about us over there, overat jfranzie.com.
Miss Tiffany, my friend, do youhave any final words for us
(01:30:05):
tonight?
Tiffany Mason (01:30:06):
Yes, it's been
another great episode in the
books.
We appreciate you tuning in andbeing part of the crew.
We are very thankful for ourcrew members as we approach
Thanksgiving.
I hope you guys all have anawesome Thanksgiving, an awesome
week, and we'll see you nextweek.
Jay Franze (01:30:24):
On that note, folks,
have a good night.
Thanks for listening to the JayFranzi Show.
Make sure you visit us atJFranzi.com.
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