Country Stars That Have Vanished, Artist Who Don’t Have the Best Voice, and Country Music News

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about the question of the day.
The question of the day.
Left turn right out of thegate.
Name a singer.
Name a singer who's achievedsuccess even though they may not
have the best voice.
Name a singer who's achieved.
Oh, not you achieved success,even though they may not have

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the best voice.
Do not give me your answer now.
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All right.
Let's get this thing rolling.

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Let's start with an article Icame across this week.
Nineteen country artists, 19artists who have simply
disappeared.

Where'd they go?

Jay Franze (02:16):
19 country artists who have just fallen off the
face of the earth.

All right.
Let me hear.

Jay Franze (02:21):
All right.

Let me see if I know where they are.

Jay Franze (02:26):
All right.
First one.
Cindy Thompson.
Now I love Cindy Thompson.

I don't know Cindy Thompson.

Jay Franze (02:34):
She's a very beautiful girl.
Very beautiful.
However, I don't know how manyrecords she had, but I had one
record of hers.
She had a number one hit andgone.
Go back.

Do you remember her number one hit?

Jay Franze (02:47):
What I really meant to say.

And she was good looking, and that's how you
remembered her?

Jay Franze (02:56):
What I really meant to say is yes, I do remember the
number one hit.
The number one hit is what Ireally meant to say.
And she is good looking.
She's a very, very beautifulgirl.
Talking to her for a little bitto see if she would come on the
show.

Oh.

Jay Franze (03:10):
Because I know this article says she's disappeared.
And she did.
She disappeared for a while,but she is coming back.
She is releasing new music aswe speak.

Oh wow.
Okay, well, resurfacing.

Jay Franze (03:24):
There you go.
Let's move on to the next one.
Ricochet.
Ricochet was a country band inthe the 90s.
Late 90s.

You know what?
They're one-hit wonders, I betI know their songs, but not
their name.

Jay Franze (03:40):
Oh, you don't know Ricochet either?
Daddy's Money.
No?
Okay.

Her daddy's money?
Her mama's good looks?
Nope.

Jay Franze (03:51):
Alrighty then, folks.
Moving on to the next one.
The Wreckers.
Ooh, they were good.
Do you remember the Wreckers?
No?
Okay, fantastic.
Leaving the pieces in my oh my.

Oh.
I don't know.

Jay Franze (04:15):
It was Michelle Branch and Jessica Harp.

I like Michelle Branch.
Uh she did not always docountry.

Jay Franze (04:23):
Well, she was a pop star.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (04:26):
And she joined with Miss Jessica here and did a
country band.

Oh, okay.

Jay Franze (04:34):
You know, they did not continue it after that.
But they did have some successwith it.

Okay.

Jay Franze (04:41):
This one, yeah, I can understand completely.
Cletus T.
Judd.
No?
I love you so much.

Was he the brother to the Judd sisters?

Jay Franze (04:52):
Yeah, no.

I don't even think the Juds were sisters,
right?
The mom and the daughter.

Jay Franze (05:00):
Anyways, he he was more of a comedian style singer.

Oh.

Jay Franze (05:05):
He paired up with Toby Keith.

Hmm.
I mean, the name does soundfamiliar, but I don't know.

Jay Franze (05:12):
They sang the song Um I Love NASCAR.

Okay.

Jay Franze (05:16):
I don't take anything that they did, you
know, as being too um tooserious.

Okay.

Jay Franze (05:23):
He did um one with Kenny Chesney.
You know, she thinks mytractor's sexy.
Yeah.
He did um My Cellmate ThinksI'm Sexy.

That's funny.

Jay Franze (05:36):
Dina Carter.
I didn't realize she had goneanywhere.
She's awesome.

I mean, we kind of only heard strawberry wine
from her, right?
And then she gone.

Jay Franze (05:48):
Very first number one hit.
And while it's also a karaokehit in downtown Nashville.

I believe that.

Jay Franze (05:57):
Do you know that there is a bar in Nashville?
I don't know if it stillexists, but there's a karaoke
bar that did naked karaoke.

No.
Is that the one we walked by?

Jay Franze (06:09):
No, that was a whole different type of bar.
It wasn't a strip club forthose listening.
It was a bar.
We walked by and there was somegirl standing on the bar, and
all of a sudden, you know, withour children there watching this
girl thinking she was gonnasing something or do something,
and she did.
She got naked.

She did something.

Jay Franze (06:29):
She did a whole lot of something.

Burn our retinas.

Jay Franze (06:34):
It was alright.
Alright, next, Bobby Gentry.
Bobby with an IE.
I know you don't seem to careabout that stuff, but does
insinuate that it is a woman.

Oh.

Jay Franze (06:47):
It is, in fact, a woman.

Oh.

Jay Franze (06:49):
She's um the homecoming queen?

Bobby Gentry, the homecoming queen.

Jay Franze (06:53):
She's a pretty good looking woman.
She's dressed in a 60s, like, Idon't know what kind of outfit
you would call it, but it's a60s outfit.
And um she sang the song Old toBilly Joe.
No?
Ode.
Is it Ode?
Ode to Billy Joe.
Ode.
Ode.

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Ode.
Ode to Billy Joe.

Ode.

Jay Franze (07:18):
Not our Billy Joe.
But Billy Joe with an E.
Alright.
Moving on.
Yeah.
Sounds good.
Black hawk.
Black hawk.
Gotta be very careful.
Working on my diction.
They were big in the 90s.
I see.
Oh, and off the rails we go.

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Goodbye, says it all.
No?

Goodbye.
Yeah, I know it.
Yeah, I know it.

Jay Franze (07:51):
Okay.
Yeah.
I think I just recently sawthem.

I think you did too.

Jay Franze (07:59):
I did.
I I went to um the garage.
Ludlow Garage.
I went to this garage bar tosee them perform.
And it's an odd garage.
You had to walk down a flightof stairs to get to the venue
portion, and it's in an L, andthere's a like a wall in
between, and half the audienceis on one side and half the

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audience is on the other.

Yes, you definitely told us about this.
Yes.

Jay Franze (08:26):
So I went to see them and I went with a good
friend of mine, Dina, a womanfrom work.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (08:32):
I have to say good friend because otherwise, you
know, my wife might think it wasa date.
It wasn't a date.
I mean, we just made out alittle.
No wife, just a joke.
Just a joke.
Next, Chris Cagle.

This thing too sounds familiar to me.
What is the song?

Jay Franze (08:50):
Chicks Dig It.

Oh, yeah.
Because the chicks dig it.

Jay Franze (08:56):
He also had another song, I breathe in, I breathe
out.

This sounds familiar too.

Jay Franze (09:04):
I'd sing it to you, but well, we all know how that
goes.

Well, there's a reason I sing very short
portions.

Jay Franze (09:13):
Yeah, because I cut you off.
Next, Jessica Andrews.
Who am I?
It was a number one single.
And then poof.

Gone.
Goodbye, Jessica.

Jay Franze (09:28):
Goodbye, Jessica.
Next on the list is one that Idon't believe should be on the
list.
I know we talked about CindyThompson earlier, but I don't
believe this one should be onthe list.
Okay.
John Michael Montgomery.

Uh new.

Jay Franze (09:43):
I mean, he might not be doing much right now, but I
don't think he fell off theearth.
Everybody knows who he is.
He was around for quite a whileand he had some great songs.

I think he also did an event somewhat recently
that we reported.

Jay Franze (09:56):
His son definitely did one.
I think I told you I went tothe breakfast with the governor.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (10:03):
Yeah.
He was there.

Maybe that's what I'm thinking of.

Jay Franze (10:07):
Before anybody gets their panties in a wad.
It was one of many tables withthe governor there.
It's not like I had aone-on-one breakfast with the
governor.
I like the picture.
The background shows a bassplayer, and the bass player is
playing a Michael Tobias bass.
Michael Tobias, by far, thebest bass manufacturer ever.

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He custom made two basses forme, an acoustic and an electric.

I was watching a special on Tom Petty, and he was
talking about when he got aTakamini, and I felt good
because I knew what a Takaminiwas.

Jay Franze (10:46):
I never thought much of Takamini until I started
working with Jim, and man, thatman can make that thing sing.
He was really, really good.
I miss working with Jim.
I think Jim has moved toGeorgia.
If he hasn't, he's on his way.

On his midnight train to Georgia.
Yeah, enough of that.

Jay Franze (11:09):
Next, Carly McLean.
This is one I am not familiarwith.
This was in the 80s.
The song is Who's Cheating Who?
I remember the song.

Oh yeah.

Jay Franze (11:21):
I just don't remember her name or I remember
the song for sure.
Yeah.
She also had um Sleeping withthe Radio on.

I don't know if I knew that one.

Jay Franze (11:32):
Alright.
Shall we end it with?
End it with Chad Brock.
Talk about a name, huh?
Chad Brock.
Hi, I'm Chad Brock.
Chad Brock.
He had a song.
What was it?
Yes.
Just simple yes.
Judging by that look, it's no.

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What else did he have?
I don't remember.
Ordinary love.
Ordinary love.
How come you always rememberthe second you say I don't
remember?
Is that like a trigger?

Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.

Jay Franze (12:13):
All right.
Chad Brock, thank you forending the list with us tonight.

Well, good news.
Vince Gill will be receivingthe CMA's Nellie Wilson's
Lifetime Achievement Honor.
The country icon has beentapped for the 2025 award,
recognizing his decades ofimpact, 30 plus million records
sold and 22 Grammys.
Now, I ask you, Jay, do youknow what the qualifications are

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to get this award?

Jay Franze (12:42):
Why don't you tell us?

Okay.
The artist must be an iconicfigure in country music who has
achieved the highest degree ofrecognition and has positively
impacted the genre's growththrough combination of their
career and accomplishments.
Key qualifications includenational and international
prominence from concertperformances, humanitarian
efforts, philanthropy.
It's a big word with a lot ofsyllables.

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Record sales and publicrepresentation at a high level.
But anyways, I thought that waskind of interesting.
You know, I'm always curioushow do people get nominated for
it?

Jay Franze (13:18):
So record labels.

Record labels.

Jay Franze (13:21):
Record labels are the ones typically nominating
their artists.
He's a great artist.
I um dated his backgroundsinger, one of his background
singers.
And I never had the opportunityto meet him.

Not a very good girlfriend.

Jay Franze (13:35):
She wasn't, that's why I get rid of her.
Kicked it in the curb rightthen and there.

You are not going to introduce me to Vince.
No.

Jay Franze (13:42):
Bye.
But Billy Joe Jones, she posteda picture with Vince Gill just
recently up on her up on thegram.
So she got a chance to meethim.

That's cool.

Jay Franze (13:54):
I don't know.

She was just nominated for an award, I think,
and she's probably at one ofthose awards.

Jay Franze (13:58):
The Josie Awards.

Yes.
I wonder if his impact andrecord sales are from Go High Up
on the Mountain.
Amy has brought to ourattention many times.

Jay Franze (14:11):
Tell us, Amy.
Nice.
I never met Amy either.
I did get to go see her performin New York.

Oh.

Jay Franze (14:21):
She was nice enough to do that for me, but I never
got to see her.
That same girl that wasbackground singers for Vince was
also background singers forAmy.
Go figure.

Go figure.

Jay Franze (14:31):
She was very good.
She was a very good performer.
Amy, not the girlfriend.
She was all right.

She's I'm all right.

Jay Franze (14:37):
She was very good.
Very good.

Okay.
Well, uh, we were talkingbefore in the green room, Jay
and I, about some AI music.
And then mom brought up Mattmaking his AI songs.
And now you guys, I mean, Jaycalled this like last week or
two weeks ago when we sharedthat song that I wrote for my
sister.
We talked about AI.

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And I think you had said itwon't be very long before
they're on the charts orsomething to that extent.
And now it's happened.
So AI breaks ground in country,breaking Rust's walk the walk,
hit number one digital song.
I kind of felt like it has likea little bit of a shabboozy
feel to it, a little bluesy feelto it, but it's a completely

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artificially powered act that istopping major chart, pointing
towards a new frontier in thegenre.
And I really freaking hope not,because the voices are not on
point for this music yet.
They're good, they're close.
I can't have radio soundinglike that, though.
It's very like tinny ordistorted.

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I can't have that.
That can't be my main says no,folks.

Jay Franze (15:54):
No, I think it it's impressive that somebody was
able to do it.

Yeah.
I will say that voice in thatwalk the walk song is better
than a lot of the voices I'veheard in the the AI songs up to
this point, which have just beenyours.

Jay Franze (16:12):
So what you're saying is mine suck.
I got it.

No, no, they're really good.
And you don't have anything todo with the voice necessarily,
but that last one that you justplayed for me, that voice was
really good.
The uh cerebello one.
So it's not long.
I mean, it doesn't take AI verylong to adapt and adjust, and
so you know, next week it'll bebetter.

Jay Franze (16:35):
That was another thing.
AI is gonna be around for quitesome time because they just
struck a deal with all therecord labels.

Oh crap.

Jay Franze (16:42):
So be prepared, folks.
Mark my words right here now.

Right here.

Jay Franze (16:48):
AI is gonna be around for quite some time, not
just in general, but I mean inthe music industry, it's gonna
become a huge portion of thecreative piece.

Well, um, I'm gonna oh no, it is, it's our
next song.
Our next news story.
These tie in.
So the next news story is thatJason Aldean drops massive new
album, Songs About Us, featuringhis wife Brittany, Luke Bryant,
and more.
The 20-track set is stackedwith collaborators and signals a

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big move for Aldean's catalogof the next year.
And I was thinking to myself,like, this feels like a new
trend, right?
Because the Morgan Wallenalbums came out and it was 36
songs.
This is coming out with 20songs.
I wonder if the more AI we haveavailable to us, it's like the
faster we all learn and thefaster we can do things.

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So it's helping to create musicfaster, thus helping to output
more music.
It just got me thinking.
I wonder if that'll become kindof a new trend because vinyl is
kind of making a resurgence,but it didn't phase Morgan to
put out three records toaccommodate that.

Jay Franze (17:58):
So my wife said something like that to me this
week.
She said, How are you findingthe time to write so many songs?
Because I've written probablyseven, eight, nine songs maybe
this week.
And I think it's like what yousaid, it's by not having to take
the time to hire musicians andgo into a recording studio and

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go through the entire process,utilizing AI to do some of that
stuff for me has allowed thatprocess to go quicker.
And then you're still in thegroove, and then you can go to
the next one and the next one.
And it keeps your mind focusedon the actual writing process
rather than writing and thengoing into production.

Well, and how much more rewarding is that for
you, too?

Jay Franze (18:42):
I enjoy it much more.
Now, granted, the productionpieces what I had my whole
career on is producing records.

Right.

Jay Franze (18:50):
However, as a songwriter, it's much easier and
keeps me in the flow much more.
And I find it helps my lyricwriting more because I can stay
focused on writing lyrics, andthen I just move right on to the
next one, and I'm kind of likeflowing and learning from one
song to the next song.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (19:09):
Rather than feeling like I start over every song.

Right.
Right.
I just think like uh you startthe process and then you have a
finished product, and then youstart the process and you have a
finished product.
Like, how fun and rewarding isthat?
You know, like microwavesociety or like you know,
instant gratification.
Yeah, you put a little workinto it and you get a final
product.
It's pretty cool.

Jay Franze (19:30):
Well, I really think it's been a couple of AI weeks
here.
However, I really think as faras a writing tool, this is
fantastic because if you have aset of lyrics and something in
mind, you can go ahead and knockit out real quick and say, is
it even worth it?
Do I like it enough to pursueit?
Yes.
And it saves you thousands ofdollars if you're like, uh, it's

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not quite what I expected it tobe.
You don't have to take it inthe studio anymore.
Saving thousands of dollars.
Or if it is something you like,okay, let's go ahead and push
it aside for a second and I'lldo a few more and see if I like
those better.
So you can stay in the grooveand you can get to something of
quality quicker.
But the other thing I likeabout it a lot is if you say you

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want to try it with a differentfeel, it's a lot easier.

I was just gonna say that.

Jay Franze (20:18):
So if you go in and you record a pop country song
and think, oh, you know what,this might have been better as a
ballad, then you can justre-prompt it, and now it's the
same song as a ballad.
So that's great to try a bunchof different things, and then
once you hit the exact thing youlike, then take it in the

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studio, then spend the thousandsof dollars it's gonna take to
produce that song, and nowyou're never having the regret.
Sometimes I've gone in thestudio and I've regretted
spending the thousands ofdollars on this particular song
because it didn't turn out theway I thought it was gonna turn
out.
So this kind of takes thataway.
So I I think if you use it as atool like that, I think it's

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fantastic.
Yeah, the other thing, my wifewas talking to me the other day
and she's like, Well, what atwhat point do you think it's no
longer the person writing thesong?
And I'm like, Well, if you lookat the very basics of writing a
song, it's words and music, andthen the melody that bridges
the two of those together.
So words, music with the melodybridging it.

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So if the person is writing thewords, the music, and the
melody, then you wrote the song.
Doesn't matter if AI is playingthe instruments, you wrote the
song.
I think that's one way of doingit.
Or as a lyricist, you can goahead and just describe what you
want played, but at that pointyou're no longer choosing the

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chord changes.
So if you're describing whatyou want, but you're not telling
it what to play, you might sayplay an acoustic guitar and play
a piano, but you're not sayingplay the one, four, and five.

Right.

Jay Franze (21:54):
You know, and at that point, now AI is a
co-writer.
And if you don't do the lyrics,the AI just wrote the song and
you didn't.
It's a slippery slope.
That's why we got so muchgarbage on the internet right
now is because people are justhitting create, create.
Yeah.
And of course, when there's atool that makes things easy,

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people find a way to scam it.
So people are now taking AI,they're creating hundreds of
songs a day, they're postingthem all on Spotify and just
hoping that people will hitplay.
And if they hit play, or if youput them in a playlist and you
just cycle them over and overand over again while you sleep,
those are making them, you know,13 cents a day or something.
But people do it because it's away of making money.

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You're scamming the system.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (22:43):
Anyway, yeah, I don't like it.

I don't like it.

Jay Franze (22:46):
Moving on.

Less garbage.
Okay, well, let's talk abouttwo people rekindling some
romance.
So love is back on for KelseyBallerini and Chase Stokes.
So if your heartbroke whentheir hearts broke, you forget
about it.
Okay.
After they're split, sourcessay the country star and actor
are giving it another go anddoing so with more clarity this

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time.
So we'll see.
We'll see if it sticks.

Jay Franze (23:15):
Your mother chimed in with her thoughts on AI.

Okay.

Jay Franze (23:20):
You still have to have words to make a song.
I think that makes sensebecause your song where you
wrote the words, that's what'smaking that song special.
It's not the fact that AI isthe one playing the instruments.

Yeah.
Well, I think too, like whenyou got the cassette leaflet,
you know, what was mostimportant to you?
What did you check out first?
And I always checked out thelyrics first.
So the lyrics will always benumber one to me.
So if somebody chose theirlyrics, then I think they wrote
the song.
But you could have a differentpoint of view because for you,

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the music has always been aboutthe production.
So maybe you feel like thatcheapens it if that piece is AI.

Jay Franze (24:02):
No.
No.
I'm with you.
I mean, it's words and music.
Yeah.
So did you write the the words?
Did you create the chordchanges?
If you did, you wrote the song.
If AI is creating the chordchanges, you co-wrote the song.
To me, that's even moreimportant.
So words in the chord changes,and then AI can create the

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melody based on your chordchanges.
You know, that's no differentthan hiring a singer and they
sing the way they want it to besung.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (24:33):
So it's really the words in the music for sure.
I like the way music feels, butthe words are the most
important piece to me.

Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Well, Mr.
Jelly Roll turns chef.
He's making Wagyu steak, uh,lemon zest in late night kitchen
collabs.
So the star stepped off thestage and into the kitchen with
chef Alex.
Yep, Vulkan Vosky, a gourmetcooking chef.

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That uh it was a more of a PRstunt that was fun.
So I think that is a greattwist.
I mean, he already collaboratedwith all the uh artists, so now
he's got to break into thecooking shows and chefs.

Jay Franze (25:17):
He's insane.
He really is.
Every every time I turn around,he's there doing something.
And most of the time it'ssomething amazing.
So I'll give the guy all thecredit in the world.

Yeah, I agree with that.
Well, speaking of Jilly Roll,he has had a rough go.
He actually ended up cancelinghis shows in New Zealand due to
illness, saying, please forgiveme.
The cancellation highlights howdemanding the international leg
can be, even for one moderncountry's biggest, one of
countries' biggest names.
I think that is the thing toremember, right?

(25:47):
Like I think we've said itmultiple times, but just to
remember that they're humanswatching Billy Joe Jones on The
Road, uh, the show The Road.
It was, you know, heartbreakingto see how bad she wanted it,
but she was sick.
Okay.
Well, the next story is afriendship goals, Jamie Johnson.
And every time I read thisguy's name, I always think of
Johnny James.

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They're flip-flopped.
Anyways, Jamie Johnson opens upon his natural connection with
Riley Green.
So the two Alabama natives,very different career paths.
Yet Johnson says their bond andhumor make their partnership
feel effortless.
And I was like, who is JamesJohnson anyway?

Jay Franze (26:28):
He's a Marine.

He's a Marine as well.

Jay Franze (26:31):
Eight-year Marine, yep.

Oh.
Okay.
So he's a Marine, apparently,but he's also an American
country music singer,songwriter, known for his blend
of outlaw and classic countrysounds.
He is a Grammy nominated artistwho has written hits for other
artists, such as George Strait'sGive It Away, and is a member
of the Grand Old Aubrey.
So he's pretty accomplished.

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Okay, let's talk about MorganWallen and Ella Langley.

Jay Franze (26:57):
Yeah, let's talk about them.

Okay.
He delivered a spine-chillingduet of Cover Me Up.
This is one of Hannah'sfavorite Morgan Wallen songs.
The surprise pairing of the twois giving Chris Stapleton's
penned ballad a fresh, rawvibration.
Fans are buzzing.
It is all over social media.

Jay Franze (27:19):
Yeah, he's another crazy dude.
We always talk about hisshenanigans, which is always
fun.
But he's another one in thestudio that he records in
non-traditional ways.
He records in the dark, whichis not uncommon.
A lot of singers do it.
What?
Yeah, they they record in thedark because I'm sure they're

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self-conscious.
So they don't want anybodyseeing them do it.
And that's the reason why mostpeople do it.
Is that the reason why he doesit?
I don't know.

But can't you just turn around?
Couldn't you just put yourback?

Jay Franze (27:54):
Well, it depends on the engineer.
The engineer has a lot to dowith how studios are set up.
So when I used to go into arecording studio, depending on
the room that we were in, woulddepend on where I would place
the singer because of the thesize of the room and the
reflections in the room.
Am I going to use the roomitself as a sound, or am I going

(28:16):
to put baffles up or gobos andseparate the room, make it feel
smaller?
So it just depends on the thesinger, the type of room that
singer is in, and the type ofsound we're trying to achieve.
So if we're in a big, beautifulstudio, in say Oceanway, which
is one of the biggest studios inNashville, it's an old church,
so the live room is big andbeautiful.

(28:38):
And it's very reverberant.
So I mean you've got a lot of alot of reflection.
But if you get to a song whereyou want it to sound personal,
you just wrap that singer in inbaffles, gobos, which is put
these basically foam mattressesup around the singer.
And that way when they sing,the mattresses stop that vocal

(28:59):
from reflecting.

Yeah.
Interesting.
Okay, well, if you want tocheck out the duet, it's on
social media.
Maybe you'll be buzzing afteryou see it too.
Ella Lingley does have a veryrisque, I guess, kind of little
outfit on.
It's very cute.
So yeah.
You know, a little eye candy tolook at while they're

(29:21):
performing.
I don't think that the liveversion was as good as the
recorded version, of course, butyou know, it's still good.

Jay Franze (29:28):
I'm like that with everything.
I can't think of a singlesingle live performance I ever
liked better than the recordedone.

Really?

Jay Franze (29:36):
I'm sure there's sometimes.
I guess if a singer goes into astudio at the very beginning of
working with a particular song,they don't quite have that song
mastered yet.
Then they go on the road andthey master it, and then their
performances have the potentialof being better than the record.
But most of the time I alwaysprefer the record more than I do

(29:57):
the live performance.

I'll tell you what, there's a couple of songs
that I can think of right nowthat like in person blew my
mind, and then I hear them onthe radio and they're just like
almost flat.

Jay Franze (30:08):
Well, it's also the thing we were talking about the
other day, too, is a lot of themusic.
Even though it might have ahard rockin' feel to it,
producers may overproduce.
And then even though it's ahard rocking performance, it
comes out sounding a littleweaker than it should.
We need to let the hard rockingperformances breathe and let

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them stay edgy.
That's what makes them good.

Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Well, Mic Drop on Reality TV,episode four of The Road sees
hard cuts, tough choices, andhigh voltage playlist.
With only one spot left, thefour performers battle big
energy and even bigger nervesunder the watchful eyes of Keith

(30:54):
Urban and Blake Shelton.

Jay Franze (30:56):
Remind me again who's on the road.

Billy Joe Jones.

Jay Franze (31:00):
Thank you.

Our hometown favorite.
I guess she's not hometown, butyou know, our favorite.
Our home show favorite.
Thank you.
Great minds, Jay.
Great minds.
Sometimes ours.
And sometimes ours.
Uh yeah, it was great.
It was a great episode.
Cody just powering through.

Jay Franze (31:23):
Oh, I don't like the fact that they separate the the
performers four and fourbecause we didn't get to see
Billy perform.

Yeah, I don't like that either.
I don't like that either.
But I think that they made theright call last week when Olivia
had to go.
And then this week, uh Forrest.
You know, they kept tellingthem to think about Keith
Urban's audience and what theywant.
And, you know, Forrest has gothis own very John Prime, I think

(31:53):
that's what they said.
And I agree with that 100%.
Like he's just kind of not thesame flavor.

Jay Franze (31:59):
Right.
So even though they say thinkof Keith Urban's audience, would
you want him to change who heis?
I respect them for staying.

Well, no, no, I agree with that.
Just wrong competition, greatartist, but wrong competition,
maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I think that they shouldstay true to who they are.
Yeah.
Because that's how they'regoing to make it in the long
run.
Right.
Their originality.

Jay Franze (32:23):
Moving on to the question of the day.
Question of the day.
Name a singer who's achievedsuccess, even though they might
not have the best of vocals.
Name a singer who has achievedsuccess even though they might
not have the best voice.

And is this a question you came up with, Jay,
or was it from a crew member?

Jay Franze (32:46):
Well, thank you for asking.
This was submitted by Stefan.
I say Stefan because it'sStephen with a Ph.

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze (32:54):
Either way, Steven, the one who submitted our
question of the day, question ofthe day being, name a singer
who's achieved success, eventhough they may not have the
best voice.
Do you want to give yours now,or would you like to wait until
later?

I mean, I think Tim McGraw came to your mind
because that was my answer.
So we both say Tim McGraw.
And honestly, I'm not reallypaying that close of attention.
Again, I'm all about the words,the lyrics.
Like sing it good, sing it bad.
I don't know, but I'm gonna singalong with you.

Jay Franze (33:26):
Hey, I'm with you.
I I listen to Tim McGraw's, Ican listen to his songs all day.
I'm perfectly fine with it.
He's just not the best ofsingers.

Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I think it's like youtalked about in your book,
right?
Like it's all about yourperception.
So if you come off as making itand climbing the charts and a
big deal, then you're making itand climbing the charts, and
you're a big deal.
You know, like it's all aboutperception and how you brand
yourself and market yourself.

Jay Franze (33:55):
So and he, you know, Tim McGraw is definitely a big
deal.
Even though you said, you know,not anymore.
I think yes, even still.
But moving on, Sarah, Sarahwith an H says Willie Nelson.
Yeah.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Hands down.
James says Bob Dylan.

(34:16):
I'm willing to bet Bob Dylan'sname's gonna come up a lot.

Yeah.
Well, he was so good forsongwriting, right?

Jay Franze (34:23):
Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, David says Toby Keith.
I like Toby Keith.
Oh, Emily.
Emily says Miranda Lambert.
No, that girl can say I'veheard her live.

She sounded pretty good, even live.

Jay Franze (34:37):
Yeah.
Chris says Luke Bryan.
I I disagree with that too.
I think Luke Bryan's reallygood.
He might not have the biggestrange.

Yeah.
Yeah.

Jay Franze (34:48):
But he's a good singer and he's got a really
good ear.

Yeah, you're like AI for me.
Like AI will put into wordswhat I'm thinking, or like, ah,
that's like they just pulled outright on my head.
That's how that felt just now.
I was trying to figure out whatit was, but it's right.
It said his range isn't verywide.

Jay Franze (35:06):
There you go.
All right.
Sorry, Chris.
Hannah.
Hannah with an H says JohnnyCash.

I was thinking that a lot of older artists
might come up because you knowthere was like a big uproaring
when like auto-tuning startedgetting used, but they used
auto-tune because some peopleweren't very good, even though
they were popular.

Jay Franze (35:33):
I could tell you everybody who used auto-tune.
Because I was the one tuningthem.
Even the people who did notneed it, which killed me.
It would kill me to tune avocal, even though the person
didn't need to be tuned.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (35:48):
That happened a lot.

Tweak it just to tweak it.

Jay Franze (35:51):
That happened a lot.
But that's okay.
Pay me, I'll tune it.
Alright.
We say that, and you say that,but Mike says Jason Aldean.
That's a newer artist.
I think most country singersare going to be a mid-range,
especially the male vocalists.

(36:12):
They're not going to have thethe largest range.
And if they do, they typicallydon't use it.
Because country music doesn'treally call for a large range.

I feel like country music calls for more of
emotion, like more crescendo andthen pulling back, and then you
know getting rowdy or whatever.
So I feel like it calls morefor that than a wide range.

Jay Franze (36:37):
Yes.
Jason L Dean.
That is not his real name.
Did you know that?

I did not know that.

Jay Franze (36:43):
I think it's Jason L Dine Williams.

Hmm.
I love Jason L Dean.

Jay Franze (36:50):
Yeah, I like him a lot.

I just passed a kidney stone.
No.
I was gonna say a kid, a kidthat I know, and he was playing
She's All Country, and I waslike, oh man, I love that song.

Jay Franze (37:03):
Rockalooch, my friend.
Hate mail goes to Rockalooch atJFranzi.com.
As she says, Taylor Swift.

Whoa!

Jay Franze (37:18):
Taylor Swift, definitely more of a songwriter
than a vocalist.
She can sing.
Again, maybe not the largestrange, but she can sing.
And what's good about her vocalis she's like perfect pitch.
I mean that girl, she can hitthe note all the time.

I would say in the beginning, I felt like her
voice sounded very shaky to me.
Like it just always soundedshaky or shaky or vibrato?
No, shaky.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know, not in a goodway.
And like a nerve, like shealmost sounded nervous.
Yeah.
But as she's gotten older andclearly perfected the craft,

(38:03):
she's polished now.

Jay Franze (38:05):
Yeah.
I mean, again, Rockalooch, Ican understand if you're talking
about range for sure.
And she's she says she builther career on heart.
On heart, not the high notes.
I think that's fair.
So it is range.
Thank you for clarifyingRockalooch.

Well, we talked about branding and marketing
again.

Jay Franze (38:27):
Yeah, well, that is the queen right there.
The queen of branding andmarketing for sure.

Yep.

Jay Franze (38:34):
All right, Kevin says Chris Christofferson.
It's about the gravel in histhroat.

Nice.

Jay Franze (38:43):
Oh, Amanda.
Amanda says Shania Twain.
I would disagree with that.
I think Shania Twain is isreally good.
Even before she she became asuperstar, she was performing in
Canada like all the time, atlike these big resort-style
places.
And she was belting out somekiller cover tunes at the time,

(39:07):
too.

Yeah, I think she's got a lot of power.

Jay Franze (39:10):
Yeah, I think she's great.

But music maybe is like art where it's like, you
know, in the eye of thebeholder.
So it's in the ear of thelistener.

Jay Franze (39:20):
I've been trying so hard tonight to bite my tongue
in some of these things.
Tyler says Blake Shelton.
I disagree a hundred percent.
That man, again, might not havethe the biggest range, but his
air is amazing and his pitch isfantastic.

I mean, he's one of the judges.

Jay Franze (39:46):
That doesn't necessarily mean anything.
But yes, he is a judge and he'sa good one.
So Sophia says KelseyBallerini.
Daniel says Tom Petty.
Olivia says Reba McIntyre.
Another vote by Ryan for TobyKeith.
Kelly says Kenny Chesney.
Yes, that's an absolutelycorrect statement.

(40:07):
He is Charisma all the way.
Ooh.
Zach says Kid Rock.
That is true.
That man, Kid Rock, cannotsing.
Oh.
I mean, he can't.
And I I think he would be thefirst to tell you he can't.
He was brought up rapping andscreaming stuff.
His pitch is horrible.

(40:29):
I mean, it's horrible.
He he's got the same pitch Ido.
I mean, it's bad.
Sorry, Kid Rock.
Sorry.
Oh, Madison.
Madison says, the mostinfluential woman in country
music.
Dolly Parton.

What?

Jay Franze (40:51):
Madison says she is not technically strong.
She's just nothing but emotion.
I don't know.
I mean, she's not hitting theWhitney note, but she's she's
really good.
I mean, really good.
I worked on her live record.

(41:11):
She's really good live.
Again, did not need to be tunedand wasn't tuned.
Throwing that out there.
I don't think there's any harmin me telling you when somebody
wasn't tuned.

Right?

Jay Franze (41:27):
Yeah, I won't go throwing people under the bus if
they have been tuned.

Attorney client privileges.

Jay Franze (41:35):
However, if she hasn't been tuned, I don't see
any problem with telling youthat.

No, I think that's pretty cool.

Jay Franze (41:42):
Alright.
Another vote in Justin for TobyKeith, Megan from Miranda
Lambert.
Connor says Billy Ray Cyrus.
Yes, I agree with that.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (41:49):
He's the nicest guy in the world, but no, not a
strong voice.
Ben says Florida Georgia Line.
I don't know if I agree withthat.
Maya Project Music says JohnLennon.
Hate mail goes to fight andload.
Maya Project Music atJFran.com.

(42:11):
You know what though?
I agree with her.
I don't think he's got thestrongest voice in the world.
He was just a great songwriterand tea and smoke music, says
Taylor Swift.

I mean.

Jay Franze (42:30):
Alright.
Rob says Neil Young.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
What was what was the what wasthe handle?

Jay Franze (42:36):
T and smoke music.

I was thinking it was T and Swift music, and I
was like, T and Swifty is whatthey're gonna rip on Swifty?

Jay Franze (42:46):
T E A.
T and Smoke Music.
Okay.
It's all lowercase.
It took me a minute to figureout what it was.
Taylor Swift.
She is the obvious choice.

Wow.

Jay Franze (42:59):
Rob says Neil Young Bob Dylan.
Charlie.
He says Adele, and that is aridiculous statement, Charlie.
Adele's amazing.

Yeah.
She's got the range, she's gotthe power, she got the clarity.

Jay Franze (43:18):
Yeah.
J Stop63 says ChrisChristofferson.
Daniel says Madonna.
Brissette says Ginger Spice.

Not all the Spice Girls, just ginger.
Just kick her the curb.

Jay Franze (43:42):
Peter Mold Songs says Mark E.
Smith.
RM says Brian Johnson of ACDC.
Or Paula Abdul or Cindy Lopper.
I'm with you all the way up toCindy Lopper.
Yeah.
Especially since I just saw herperform at what, 70 something

(44:05):
years old?
That woman sang like a champ at70 something years old.
And was running around thestage.
You could not tell that womanwas in her 70s.

I was thinking uh watching The Road that Gretchen
Wilson, you've always said, asartists get a little bit older,
it's harder to hit the highernotes.
And I was like, oh girl.

Jay Franze (44:31):
Joe says Justin Bieber.
These people I think they'regetting carried away, Ty.
Justin Bieber, Fred Durst, orDrake.
Michael says Bismarcky.
Rod says Bob Dylan or JimmyBuffett.
Daniel says Getty Lee.
Hmm.
He doesn't just say Getty Lee,he says so horrible.

Put a little extra jab on that night quest.

Jay Franze (44:59):
James, the James.
Our question of the day, James.
Not today, but not today.
In general.
Says don't worry, be happy.
Bobby McFarron.

Whistle good.

Jay Franze (45:15):
Anthony says Tom Waits.
Anthony, thank you.
Anthony's here every week.
Tom Waits, great songwriter andgreat singer, like when it
comes to emotion, but definitelynot a prize-winning singer,
let's say.
Mark, the Mark, Mark Botellato,we'll say his last name because

(45:38):
he has been on the show.
Says Bob Dylan or Tom Petty.

Yeah, I can see the Tom Petty thing.
I mean and Bob Dylan.

Jay Franze (45:47):
Bill says Bob Dylan.
Jerry.
Jerry Rabus.
I'm going to say his last namebecause his daughter's been on
the show.
Jerry Ravis, thank you forchiming in, says Willie Nelson.
June says Tom Jones.
Ricky.

Ricky says Garth Brooks.

Jay Franze (46:11):
Sorry, Miss Tiffany.
Now, I will stick up for you,Miss Tiffany.
Sorry, Ricky.
But I'm going to stick up forMiss Tiffany only because Garth
Brooks was a demo singer inNashville for years before he
became an artist.
And he was a very successfuldemo singer because of his voice
and because of how good he wasin the studio.
So Michael.

(46:33):
Michael's here every week.
Thank you, Michael.
And he says, Ivan Moody.
And I will agree with you 100%.
One of my favorite bands, andyet not a very good singer.
And Miss Tiffany's looking atme going, I don't know.
Five finger death punch.

Oh.
Yes.

Jay Franze (46:57):
I've seen the perform several times and I love
him to death.
But he's not the best singer inthe world.
Michael says Neil Young.
And we will end it with Karen,who says Taylor Swift.

Man.
I think Taylor, Willie, andTaylor got beat up.
Toby Keith.
Man.

Jay Franze (47:21):
Now she is definitely successful.
Like one of the most successfulartists ever.

Ever.

Jay Franze (47:28):
But I like her voice.

I like her voice.
Um, I feel like it's very, it'sgetting very distinct though,
because I was watching a showand this was before her Life of
a Showgirl album came out.
And I was watching it and I waslike, God, this sounds so much
like Taylor's.
I shazammed it.
And sure enough, it was TaylorSwift.
And it was actually some of hersongs before they had been
released.
So I was like, well, okay,there's definitely a it's almost

(47:55):
like an airy tonality, I guess,to a lot of her music.

Jay Franze (47:59):
I like her.
To me, when I hear a singer, Iresonate more with somebody who
just sings the song and conveysthe message.
I don't need the high notes orthe fancy trills and stuff.
Yeah.
That's what I really don't likeabout pop singers who are
constantly showing off theirability, like Mariah Carey

(48:20):
style.
She's got one of the mostbeautiful voices in the world.
Just sing the song.
I don't want to hear all theacrobatics.

Yeah, sometimes I do want to hear them.

Jay Franze (48:29):
I mean there may be a place for it.

Yeah.
But not every song.

Jay Franze (48:35):
I don't think it should be showcased on every
song.
You know, maybe save it for thestage when you can show us that
you truly have the ability tosing.
But do what's right for thesong, not what's right for your
voice.
I like the voices like the TobyKeith's or even the Tim McGraw.
His voice is pleasing.
It's nice to listen to.

(48:56):
Yes.
You know, it may not be themost technically proficient,
can't do all the acrobatics, butit's pleasing to listen to it.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (49:05):
So I would rather have that.
Same thing with Five FingerDeath Punch.
Ivan Moody there, Michael justsaid, I think his voice is very
pleasant to listen to.
So what if it takes him 20takes to get it right?

We weren't in the studio.
Who cares?

Jay Franze (49:20):
I'm not worried about that part.
I'm listening to the finalproduct.
And trust me, I've been in thestudio when singers take
hundreds of takes to get itright.

Oh.

Jay Franze (49:28):
Hundreds.
Hundreds.
No exaggeration whatsoever.
Hundreds and hundreds of takesuntil they get it right.

I don't think I could do it because even when
I'm just editing audio, like bythe tenth time that I'm trying
to find like a little glitch andI'm trying to perfect this
little glitch.
By the if anybody else canhear, I can't handle it more
than about four times.
I gotta put headphones inbecause I'm like my family
probably wants to hurt me rightnow.
So I can't do it.

Jay Franze (49:56):
My wife used to ask me how you do it live.
How can you listen to the samesong that many times in a row?
It's like, well, I'm mixing it.
I'm listening to a differentthing every single time I'm
working on it.

Right, right.

Jay Franze (50:08):
Different piece.
I'm just moving on.
It's it's constantly there.
I'm not even paying attentionto the song as a whole yet.

Mm-hmm.
Right.
So I get that.
I get that 100%.
Who's on the charts, y'all?
Debuting at spot 10 is HudsonWestbrook with Housts again.

Jay Franze (50:28):
Okay.
Not a bad one.

Well, holding strong in spot number nine is
Mr.
Tucker Wetmore with three twoone.

Jay Franze (50:37):
Nice.
It's an okay song.

It's an okay song.
Yeah.
Spot number eight, numero ocho,is gonna be Riley Green, Don't
Mind If I Do, with EllettLangley.

Jay Franze (50:51):
I like it a lot.

Oh, yes.
Okay, I was trying to recall.
Yes, I do like this song.
Yes.
That's him just popping up ateight.
He just skipped past nine andten.

Jay Franze (51:01):
I told him he could take the spot.
I'll let him have it.

Okay.
You're fine for him to sharethat spot.
Okay.
Yeah.

Jay Franze (51:06):
He deserved it more than Parker did.

Well, Parmalee with Cowgirl, they went from 10
and they just shot right up to7.
So Parmalee with Cowgirl, spotseven.
Spot six is going to be ParkerMcCollum with what kind of man?

Jay Franze (51:24):
Yeah.
It's a it's okay, song.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (51:27):
I'm okay with him moving up in order to free up
spot number eight for Riley.

Fair.
But we don't want him to takespot five.
No.
Because right now Laney Wilson'sgot it.
Somewhere over Laredo.
Oh.
Somewhere over Laredo.
I do like Cincinnati, but Idecided to stick with the name
of the song.
Laredo.
Cheesy.

Jay Franze (51:50):
Too many times in a row is a little cheesy, Mr.
Tiffany.

All right.
Well, spot number four goes toMr.
Jackson Dean.
Havens to Betsy.

Jay Franze (52:01):
Every time.
Every time.
We just got done saying it'scheesy, Mr.
Tiffany.
You deserve a button.
George, you're fired.
Oh, George.
Tiffany.
You're fired.
George has been fired for awhile.
George, where are you, George?
Chime in.
Let us know you're there.

Somewhere in Arizona.
Somewhere over Arizona.

Jay Franze (52:19):
All right, I'll take that.
That's that's worthy.

Okay, spot number three is going to Morgan
Wallen.
I got better.

Jay Franze (52:28):
Not really.
He went from one to three.
He didn't get better.
He got worse.

I know.
Well, I keep laughing becausethis is that song that I wanted
to hate, but I ended up reallyliking it a lot.

Jay Franze (52:40):
You are a closet Morgan Wallen fan.
You have a negative commentevery time, but every time
you're talking about how muchyou like it.

I know.
I know.
I love me.
I do love Morgan Wallen.
I'm not closet.
I'm just I'm out in the open.
I love Morgan Wallen.

Jay Franze (52:54):
You left the closet.

I'm in love.
I'm in love.
And I don't care.
Who knows?
Sean.
We've already washed shells.
Okay.
Uh spot number two is going tochase Matthew with Darlin.

Jay Franze (53:10):
Darling.

Why does he tell you darling?

Jay Franze (53:13):
My wife got mad at me the other day for using the
word darling in a song.

Why?

Jay Franze (53:18):
She goes, you would never say darling.
I'm like, I'm not the onesinging the song.

It's a persona.
Come on, Jennifer.

Jay Franze (53:26):
Writing for somebody else, not for me.
I never, well, I can't saythat.
I was about to say I neverwrite songs for myself, but I
actually wrote a song justrecently about myself.

Oh my gosh.

Jay Franze (53:41):
Uh-huh.
It says, you dumbass, why'd youget married?
You dumbass.
It's called dumbass.

Why'd you have three kids?

Jay Franze (53:52):
Oh, moving on.
She might still be awake.

Well, we've screwed up spot number two, but
spot number one, get yourselfready.
Luke comes with back in thesaddle.

Jay Franze (54:12):
The ear horns in the same spot George was.

Different screen.

Jay Franze (54:18):
Yeah.
I'm okay with not having 16drum rolls.
But anyway.
Chase Matthews, you deserve alittle bit, though.
I mean, you do.
Thank you.

Just a little bit.
Just a little bit.
Okay, in the indie charts.
I'm excited about this one.
Spot number 10, perfume on myjersey.
He's talking about this girlthat he dated, and he can still
smell her perfume on his jersey.
And I love that.
I love when a scent lingers.

Jay Franze (54:53):
So that is the best thing.

All right.
Spot number nine is going tosaid no redneck ever by Erin
Goodvin.
Going to numero 8.
Wish you wouldn't go by KenDomash.
Domash.
Domash.

Jay Franze (55:14):
Not dumbass.
Please don't be confused byTiffany's, you know, misuse of
words.

Dialect.
Well, spot number seven on theIndie Charts is going to Turn
the Night On by Chris Kizia.
Again, a song he wrote aboutme.
All right.
And our girl Millie Joe.
She's in spot six with BillyJoe Jones and Silver.
Yes, Billy Joe Jones.

Jay Franze (55:41):
She's moving up, right?
Where'd she move from?

She's moving up from spot number nine all the
way up to six.

Jay Franze (55:47):
Nice.
Good for her.
Congratulations, Miss Billy JoeJones.
We are very proud of you here.

Should be a little bit from her being on the
road.
Oh, absolutely.

Jay Franze (55:56):
There's no doubt in my mind.
However, she has had severalnumber one hits before the road.
So never know.

Not out of the realm for her.

Jay Franze (56:07):
No.
And she just won a Josie Award.
Another.

Another Josie Award.
She's very Joe Jones.

Jay Franze (56:17):
Congratulations, Miss Billy Joe Jones.

Okay, holding steady at spot number five is
Red, the song Red by JetJergensmeyer.

Jay Franze (56:28):
Yes.
He doesn't get it today.
I'm done.
Okay.

Okay.
I gave you some air room tobreathe.

Jay Franze (56:34):
I know.
I know you did, and Iappreciate you for it.
But no, I think that's beenplayed out.

Okay.
You're gonna hold hold yourtongue.

Jay Franze (56:41):
Jergensmein.

That's why she said.
Can't do it.
Okay, moving up from the city.
It's gonna be hell.
That I call home.
Oh.
Porter Martin.

Jay Franze (57:01):
That makes sense.
Good for you, Porter.
You moved up.
I'm proud of you.

Porter.
Hey, Porter.
Not the same thing, but in mymind it is.
Okay.

Jay Franze (57:10):
Similar but different.

I don't know how to say goodbye.
Bang, bang, boom, boom.
That's one way to say it.
Bose Malong.

Jay Franze (57:18):
How do you say goodbye, bang, bang, boom, boom?
Oh, I know um Robbie was like,that's on the indie charts.
Yeah, it's on the indie charts.

Yeah.
You wouldn't believe it.
Okay.

Jay Franze (57:33):
Now, to be fair, I really don't think it belongs on
the indie charts.
But it is.
It qualifies, it meets thequalifications.

It's probably like Dwight's song and post is
just the clab on it.

Jay Franze (57:45):
Oh, but Dwight Yookum doesn't belong on the
indie charts.

Well, he does if he doesn't have a record label.

Jay Franze (57:51):
He's got via records.
It's an indie record label.
That's the whole thing.
It's an indie.
He's no longer on a majorlabel.

Right.
So he gets to be on the thingthen.

Jay Franze (58:02):
Charts.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (58:03):
He qualifies.

Sorry, we don't make the rules.
That's just where they justreport on them.
Yeah.
Okay.
And spot number two.

Jay Franze (58:15):
Damn, I said I wasn't going to do it, and you
tricked me into doing it.

Hide and Go Cheat by Eric Lee Bettingfield.
And spot number one, staying atspot number one, holding steady,
is Pontiac.
So tell me, Mama, by AaronWatson.
Just a little bit.

Jay Franze (58:41):
Just a little bit.
It's only on the indie charts.
Move up to the major labelcharts and we'll talk.

Oh my gosh.
Yachty.

Jay Franze (58:51):
All right.

What are the crew members saying, Jay?

Jay Franze (58:55):
Colton.
I like Colton.
Thank you for joining us.
I think you've been here onceor twice before.
Colton says country music doesnot need to go pop in order to
stay relevant.
Referring back to your previousepisode.

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze (59:10):
Yes.
Fair statement.
I agree.
I would rather you go more rockthan pop these days.
I like the edgier stuff myself.
I don't mind a good country popstyle song if that's what the
song called for.
But I don't want you doing itjust because you think it's
going to help you.

Well, I have decided that I really love me
some classic rock, and I wasborn 10 years too late.
I should have been born in theearly 70s.

Jay Franze (59:42):
Early 70s.

Yeah.
Yeah.

Jay Franze (59:46):
You're going.

Then I would have been around to appreciate a lot
of the bands that I like theirmusic now, but I didn't realize
that's who it was at the time.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, Ilove I love this song.
Oh my gosh, I love this song.
And then I realized it's fine.

Jay Franze (01:00:05):
Right.
Sixties and seventies.

Tiffany Mason (01:00:08):
Right.
But if I was born then, ohborn.
Yeah, that's true.
Right.
Right.

That makes more sense because then you would
have been with me and you, youknow, born in the sixties.
I was born in the sixties.
Can you believe that?
I was born in the sixties,folks.
69, to be specific.

Well, I was born we're exactly 10 years apart,
though.

I told you that before, but you don't listen to
me.
Yes.
I was born in the 60s, you wereborn in the 50s.
I was born in 69, you were bornin 59.
We got it.

Anyway, so I so I I definitely like when the
country goes a little bit morerock.

I like classic rock a lot.
The problem is I'm burnt out onthose songs because I listened
to them so much back in at thattime.
That's what I I miss aboutmusic these days, is I don't
seem to burn myself out on asong or on a record because
there's just so much happening.
There's just so many things.
Even these songs, they're onthe charts for like a week or

(01:01:09):
two and then they're gone again.
Yeah.
So it's a little disappointing,but it is what it is, my
friend.

It's a sign of the times, Jay.

Yes.
Can you give us a sample of theof a classic rock artist you
like?

Um, well okay.
Uh well, the first one thatcomes to mind, I don't know how
classic they are, but Pearl Jamis one of the ones that comes to
mind.
Um that is not a classic rock,you're fired.
No, I know.
Stephanie.
You're fired.
And then I would have liked tohave listened to a lot more of
the Tom Petty music when theywere doing the you know what I

(01:01:49):
should skip to is I I watchedthe Aussie documentary, and I
was like, dang, that's a goodsong.
And then I'm like, oh my gosh,this is why Jay likes Aussie and
Black Sabbath so much.
And I'm like, I just thoughtthey were heavy metal.
I don't know, like just becausethey were black.

The inventors of heavy metal, yes, okay.

Well, the Aussie songs are really liked, and I
was like, oh my gosh, I likethis stuff.
So I don't know.

I'm I'm just having to consider that classic rock
either, though.
When I think of classic rock, Ithink of like Bob Seeger, you
know, that type.

Well, I played Tom Petty might fit in there a
little bit.
Yeah, the other day I played.
Oh, I'm drawing a blank, andone song led to another, but uh
one was like in the heat of themoment.
It was the heat of the moment,you know, and then it went to
Jesse's song.

Those aren't class, none neither of those are
classic rock.
Okay, well, Tiffany, you'refired.
Those are 80s songs.

Well, okay, whatever.

You would have been fine with Arosmith.

I yeah, I like Arosmith, Death Leopard.

They were like not classic rock.

I okay.
Well, I don't know what to tellyou.
But I'm just discovering a lotof older music that I'm like,
hmm, okay.

All right.
Sorry, moving on.
Jamie.
Sorry.
Jamie says social media hasmade more stars than record
labels ever have.

Not yet.

I agree.
It's close.
I mean, they're starting tokick people off all of a sudden.

Yeah, it's it's getting close.

Ariana.
A-R-I-A-N-A.
Yep.
Ariana.
Look at that, I got it right.

I'm so proud of you, Jay.
Thank you, Gold Star.

We need more duets.

No.

She says, but real ones with actual chemistry, like
Kenny and Dolly.
There's a lot of duets outthere right now.

A lot of duets, a lot of collaborations, but I I
see where she's coming from.
It's fun to see real, truechemistry on stage.

Especially ones like Kenny and Dolly sang together a
lot.

Yeah.

Like that could have been a a duo in addition to
their solo careers.

Mm-hmm.

So, yes, I like that.
I like that idea.
I could go with that.
All right.
Lila.
Ooh, I can just I see the I seethe word in the sentence.
It's jumping out before I readthe sentence.
This is gonna be this is gonnago bad, I can tell already.
If you need auto-tune, fine.

(01:04:36):
But use it as a tool, not as amask.

Yes.

I will tell you, I can't stress it enough.
I've tuned hundreds of peoplewho don't need to be tuned.

Yeah.

So Nick, the show feels like Saturday night at a
honky tonk.
I'll take that.
See, that's fun.

Yeah.

Yeah.
I don't even consider myself acountry music fan, but I listen
to this show every week.
That's from Elena.

So good she can't quit us.

Oh.
Luke says the mailbag might bemy favorite part of the show
now.
It's like sitting around withthe crew after the show.

Aw, yeah.
All right.
I think that's what we're goingfor, right?
I hope so, because sure as hell,we're not the smoothest at
providing you with the news.

Um Ryan, when Jay goes full producer mode and
starts talking about studiostories, he says I could listen
for hours.
Yeah.
But he has to do it with a sideof sarcasm.
All right.

That's the Bostonian in you.

All right, let's end it on this one.
Vanessa says, no.
Can't end it on a Tiffanycomment.

Oh, yes.
Yes.
What'd she say?
What'd she say?

Tiffany's the emotional core of the show.
What does that even mean,Vanessa?
Emotional core.

I get it.
I'm here for you, Vanessa.

Does that have a meaning?
What does that mean?

Like your information, I'm emotion.
Is that what it is?
I just want to point out youread the news.
You're supposed to beinformation.
Yeah, but um, I think that youbring a lot of information to
people.
Like I haven't worked in astudio, so that's not cool.
You know.

So you're saying I'm the one providing the little
tidbits.

Yeah, they're not little though, they're big
tidbits.
I've got big tidbits.
You hear that, wife?
My tidbits are big.
Big tidbits.

All right, what do you got going on this week?

Well, uh, last weekend we actually went and
checked out Porch Fest inJacksonville, Florida in the
Springfield district.
It's like a historicaldistrict.
So the houses have beenpreserved or like restored to,
you know, their natural originalbeauty.
And it was really cool becausethat people literally were
performing on these porches.
They were kind of like savannahhouses where they have the

(01:07:44):
bottom porch and the top porch.
So some of them were set upwith just the bottom performance
with the artist.
And then one person had likethe artist was performing
downstairs and the turntableswere upstairs because she was
doing like some mixing while shewas singing.
There were all kinds of genres.
There was a couple of differentones where they were just DJs.

(01:08:04):
That was really exciting.
It's like a nine-block radiusthat you can go up and down all
these different streets.
They're all blocked off.
It must be such a pain in theto live on one of those streets
because they were lined withcars and people and loud music
and tons and tons of vendors andfood trucks.

(01:08:25):
But it was really one of thecoolest experiences.
We were having an awesomeweather day.
So we walked around, tank topshorts, had very little on, not
that sounds weird.
Tell me more.
But I'm going to say that itwas a nice night, weather-wise.
We had grabbed jackets and wedid not end up using them.

(01:08:46):
We ended up watching this onegirl.
Well, one girl's name was AnnieDuke, and there were two other
um porches that had music.
And so we went and checked outthe other two porches because
someone said she's like thefemale version of Led Zeppelin.
And I was like, I don't know.
Okay, let's go check out andsee what the other two are.
Because I was hoping more forcountry music.
And the other two were okay,but one was kind of like EDM.

(01:09:08):
They were just playing um notinstruments, but they were just
playing turntables, I guess.
And the other one was okay, butI don't know.
So I was like, well, let's gocheck out the third one, Annie
Duke's, you know, we'll see.
And then come to find out,she's like been on the voice,
and she had performed the nightbefore at the Panavera concert
hall, which is right by us,opening for another artist.

(01:09:29):
And she was pretty good,really.
I mean, she had good stage,maybe porch porch presence.
And um the all the houses thathad somebody performing at them
had a sign that was like awooden sign or like a metal sign
that said Porch Fest 2025.
So you knew where the acts weregoing to be throughout the day.

(01:09:50):
It starts at like one o'clockin the afternoon, it goes to
like eight o'clock at night.
So it's an all-day thing, butit was really cool.
And so it was fun to go andwatch music.
And then I liked Annie Duke'son social media and come to find
out some of the local peoplethat I know here also follow
her.
And so I was like, oh, that'skind of cool that we're all, you

(01:10:10):
know, common interest that theyknew about her as well.
So that was really fun.
And then a big old shout out tomy sister, Jenny.
Happy birthday, Jenny.

My big C Speed Jenny's sister.

Well, we look the same and we talk the same.

Oh, damn City Girls.

All right, Jay.
What are you doing?
What are you gonna be up tothis weekend?

All right, this weekend.
Sawyer Brown on Friday atLaurie's Roadhouse and Chase
Matthew, Saturday at Bogart's.
Anybody wants to go to theshow, let me know.
Or come by and say hello.
I would love to say hi.
And then Friday night.
Ooh, there's a reason I won'tbe going to Sawyer Brown.
It's homecoming.
My daughter, Bella, my15-year-old, it's her

(01:11:00):
homecoming.
And she just bought a new dresstonight.

I got to see it.
It's beautiful.

I just bought a new dress tonight.
But it is a beautiful dress.
It's black dress, floor-lengthdress with a big old slit down
the side, which is probably notgoing to make me too happy.
But nonetheless.
I thought maybe the sequence bythe top.

Yes.
Bosom coming out of the dress.

I don't think I like that either.

It's fun as they get older.
The other day, Hannah was goingup the stairs and I was like,
Hannah, pull your shorts down.
You know, she's at home, justcomfy, you know, in the
judgment-free zone until hermom.
Then she was very embarrassed.
I was like, I'm sorry, I wasn'ttrying to embarrass you.

My daughter's her shorts are like that all the
time.
And If I say something, it'slike, shut up, dad.
No, dad.
It's like, well, you're notgoing outside like that.
And then she goes outside likethat.
I don't know.
I don't get it.
I don't know, understand whatthe point of wearing your shorts
like a thong is these days, butyou know.
All right.

(01:12:10):
Shall we crash this thing?
We're allowed to crash itagain.

Shall we crash this?
Yes.

All right.

We have crash it.
We have.

We have reached the top of the hour.
Hour number dos.
So that does mean we havereached the end of the show.
If you've enjoyed the show, Isaid we say this a lot.
If you've enjoyed the show,please tell a friend.
Seriously, if you've enjoyedthe show, tell a friend.
Please tell a friend.
Get some more people involved.
We enjoy them.

We want more people chatting with that.

Some more names that I can butcher throughout the
episode.
And if you have not enjoyed theshow, Miss Tiffany.

Tell two friends.
Tell two friends.
Tell five friends.
Tell everyone.
Tell them all.
Tell them go see the trainwreck.
We'll take people who enjoy usand people who hate us.
It's fine.

And if you've enjoyed it enough to stick
around and chat with us, we'llbe over at jfrenzy.com.
We'll be happy to keep this orany other conversation going.
And you can also reach out tous on the socials.
Miss Tiffany, do you have anyfinal words for us?

Of course.
Crew members, thank you forhanging out with us today.
It's always a joy to be part ofyour week.
We'll be chatting with you onsocials until the next episode
drops.
So don't be a stranger.
Take care of yourself, andwe'll see you next week.

And on that note, folks, have a good night.
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