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Tony Scott (00:05):
Welcome to The Jay Franze Show, a
behind-the-curtain look at theentertainment industry, with
insights you can't pay for andstories you've never heard.
Now here's your host, JayFrancie.

Jay Franze (00:33):
And we are coming at you live.
I am Jay Francie.

Tiffany Mason (00:43):
And joining me tonight.
The wheezy to my George, mybeautiful co-host, miss.

Jay Franze (00:45):
Tiffany Mason Moving on up.
There you go.
I'm so proud of you.
Right out of the gate you'restarting strong.
If you are new to the show,this is your source for the
latest news, reviews andinterviews, and if you would
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over to jayfranze.
com.
And if you feel froggy like MrMark here, you can join us live
by going to jfranzycom slashlive.

(01:07):
But before we get started, myfriend, let me tell you a
question of the day.
Who is the best bass player ofall time?

Tony Scott (01:17):
Who is?

Jay Franze (01:17):
the best bass player of all time.
Don't answer now, wait.

Hold off.

Jay Franze (01:26):
Please go ahead and put your comments, your thoughts
, in the comment section, and wewill get to that a little bit
later in the show.
All right, miss Tiffany.
Last week we talked about theMonsters of Rock, we talked
about Van Halen, we talked aboutSammy Hagar and David Lee Roth.
He also said long-haired Mark.
He must have said it threetimes because, like Beetlejuice,

(01:49):
he has now shown up.
Mr Mark, how are you?

Mark Badolato (01:54):
I am doing well, my friend, how are you doing?

Jay Franze (02:01):
I am very good.
We talked about you last week.
We talked about you going toMonsters Rock with me way back
when, or me going with you,actually, and you heard it and
you decided to come on and talkabout it with us tonight.
So we will go ahead and do thathere.
But let's take that a stepfurther.
We mentioned David Lee Roth,and the two of us had an

(02:21):
opportunity to also go see DavidLee Roth together.
the two of us had an opportunityto also go see David Lee Roth
together.
So tell me your memories of thenight we went to see David Lee
Roth and we'll see if it kind ofmatches.

Well, I it was a fun show.
I remember that we had a greattime.
But the fun stories about thatshow there were two of them Wait
wait, wait.

Jay Franze (02:40):
nothing embarrassing Remember.

Why would I embarrass you?

Jay Franze (02:44):
I'll embarrass you.

That's my style.
Fair enough, I'll embarrass youlater.

Start of the concert or before the show
actually started, we werewalking around the arena and all
of a sudden one of the roadies,you know they were still doing
the sound checks and stuff andthey were just wailing over the
PA system.
And I remember saying to Jay,wait, I want to go check out
what's going on.
You're like why do you want tosee the roadie play?
And I said that's not a roadie,I could just tell by what was

(03:10):
coming out of there.
And so we walked over right towhere the stage and the last
section of seats were and youcould see over there and sitting
right below us was CeCe DeVille, the guitar player from Poison.
Guitar player from Poison whowas the opening band down there,
trying to figure out some kindof problem with the equipment
with this roadie.
And you know he sat there forabout 10 minutes.
We got to hear him just wailingone-on-one and doing that and

(03:32):
that was the fun beginning ofthe show.
Even more fun at the end of theshow when we tried to sneak
backstage.
Oh boy.

Okay, wait, really quick, really quick.
I want to know I'm sorry, sorry, technical difficulties.
Did you have your 110 exposurecameras with you?

that night probably not the monsters of
rock show.
We do have a few pictures ofthat available us just trying to
get away with it.
It didn't quite work becauseearlier in the night, when we
were standing there watching theshow, one of the roadies had
come up to the women that werestanding behind us, who were
obviously quite good looking,and gave them backstage passes

(04:13):
and said at the end of the show,go over to section you know
whatever one, two, three.
And we heard that.
So we figured okay, well, whydon't we just sneak over with
that and we'll pretend that wewere invited as well and we can
go backstage and meet DLR.
Except it turned out when wegot to the section at the end of
the show, there was maybe 20beautiful women and us two
idiots sitting right there, andwe spotted immediately.

(04:35):
The Brody that was giving outthe instructions was basically
like okay, here's what's gonnahappen, we're gonna go back to
you two.
What the hell are you?

doing here.
Your boobs weren't big enough.

Weren't big enough.
Maybe now.

Jay Franze (04:51):
Fair enough.

That's it, those were our stories, all right.

Jay Franze (04:54):
Well, you know it was good having you here tonight
, mark.
Well, thank you for joining us.
Well, we mentioned David LeeRoth.
He is in the middle of hiscomeback.
We mentioned david lee roth.
He is in the middle of hiscomeback.
So if you would like to go seedavid lee roth, he is touring
and he is actually coming tocincinnati, so I'm gonna take
the opportunity to go see him.
He's playing at the hard rockcasino.
It's an outdoor venue, it'sit's a small venue.

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It's on grass, it's just asmall stage.

It's daytime when it's when they're playing
that's usually when old peoplehave to go see.
The music is when it's daylight.
See you at home by bedtime.

Jay Franze (05:31):
Oh, I'm sorry, Were you saying something?
Two people making old crackstonight, I get it.
This is going to be a goodnight.
All right, miss Tiffany, didyou ever listen to David Ross?

It's going to be a good night because it's at
your expense.
Yeah, I hear you, George.
Are you in the house?

Jay Franze (05:46):
George is in the house.
George saved me tonight.
Buddy, I really need yourassistance.
He says so far it's a cool show, but he says Tiffany's really
going to lose it tonight.
George says he's expectingTiffany to be fired soon.
That's just me adding it.

George, don't worry, it was just me.
I made that up, I didn't seethe comments.

Jay Franze (06:08):
George, I know, all right.
Fine, be that way.

No, do I ever listen to David Lee Roth?
I don't know.
Probably, I mean, that was theera of music that I liked, so
Mark write a lot of some DavidLee Roth song titles for her.

She needs help oh uh, living in paradise, yankee
rose tobacco road.
Little ain't enough.
There's all kinds of stuff.
He had quite a few hits.

That's four right there, that's good none of them
ring a bell, so I'm gonna sayprobably not actually he did a
cover of california girls.
That was really popular toookay, maybe I'm not doing well
in this category, so shall wemove on.

Jay Franze (06:49):
I just want to say it's fair and Mark will be a
good assistance because, like I,forget every name in the book.
You don't know any name in thebook.
Mark's like a musicalencyclopedia and he remembers
just the dumbest things.
I didn't remember any of thatstuff about going backstage or
sneaking backstage.

But that could have been two days after it
happened too.
That's just how it's alwaysbeen Fair enough.

You know you saying that you guys snuck to
the last section.
That's what we did at theAerosmith concert.
I shared that story.
A boyfriend of mine in highschool went to go see Aerosmith
and we did the same thing, wentall the way to the last section
and you can basically get theviewpoint of the performers and
we could use teleprompters.
So that was kind of interestingthat we thought it was so cool.

(07:33):
We knew a song was going tocome up before everybody else
knew because it was showing onthe teleprompter.
But cheap thrills, right.

Jay Franze (07:40):
We were all young and dumb.

Yeah, it was the little things.
It should say that way, thoughit should say that way, those
little things are what'sexciting and important.
Okay, well, moving into thenews, it is mr aerosmith mr
aerosmith mr.
Aerosmith steven tyler joeperry reunite aerosmiths steven
tyler and joe perry performedtogether for the first time

(08:03):
since their 2023 peace out tourwas canceled, sparking
excitement among the fans.
However, former Guns N' Rosesdrummer, matt Sorum stated
Tyler's injuries may preventfuture tours.
I did not get a chance to lookup what are Tyler's injuries.

Jay Franze (08:18):
Vocal injuries.

Shut up.

Jay Franze (08:21):
Yeah, the last tour he made it through.
I think it was three showsbefore he had to stop.
They think he's going to comeback, but when he does come back
, they expect it to be more oflike a Vegas residency.
They don't expect it to be afull-blown tour, because what
he'll do is he'll sing for anight, take several days off,
sing for another night.
He can't do multiple nights ina row anymore without running

(08:42):
the risk of ruining his voiceforever.

Whoa, I did not realize that was going on.

Yeah.

All right.
Next story Warrant'sultraphobic 30th anniversary.
Warrant celebrates the 30thanniversary of their 1995 album
Ultraphobic with the first time180G vinyl.
What does that mean, jay?

I believe it's the weight of the vinyl measured
in grams okay, heavier weightof the vinyl itself, like it
might be a that's what I wasthinking we can google it, but
you know, is it really worthgiggling?

I don't know.
No, I think we're best withassuming and guessing yes, as
you Ask you me, that's whypeople follow us.
Yes.

Jay Franze (09:26):
It's for our accuracy.

They know we're going to give them our best
guess.

Jay Franze (09:32):
When I lived in Orlando, the singer Janie Lane
of Warrant.
He lived there and during allthe street parties Warrant would
actually come out and play.
They'd get up on stage and playon the street parties.
So it was a good time to get tosee them that close and
personal.

Tony Scott (09:48):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (09:49):
That was the same days of Von Ray and.

Matchbox 20.
You were like in the thick ofthe good times.

Jay Franze (09:54):
In that section, for sure.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (09:56):
Mark and I both grew up in Boston and you've got big
bands.
You've got the band Bostonitself, You've got Aerosmith and
Extreme and so on.
But when I was in Orlando I gotto be with Batchbox 20, Vaughn
Ray, Warrant, all those bands.
So it was actually good to justhang out with them and help
them set up in clubs and dothose type of things.

Sell merch in the back with their mom, with their
mom.

Jay Franze (10:20):
I haven't talked to his mom recently.
Vaughn Ray Mom.

Ray, get her on the horn, vonnie Ray.

Jay Franze (10:26):
Mom Ray.

Oh, mom Ray.
Oh, vonnie Ray works too.
Barbara Ray, all right.
Metallica's Kirk Hammettreflects on playing lead
guitarist.
He offered a candid assessmentof his skills in an interview
with Metal Hammer, discussinghis growth and challenges as a
musician.
I don't think I saw that.

Jay Franze (10:50):
Well, Mark, what do you think?
Metallica was always your band.

I've always thought that Kirk was a great,
great guitar player.
He was always fun to listen toand when Metallica first came
out, that was something we hadnot heard before.
That was the heaviest thing wehad ever heard and you know it
took a little getting used to,but it was.
It was one of those things thatwas, just, you know, mind
blowing at the time and I'vealways loved Kirk.

Jay Franze (11:13):
It wasn't just heavy , it was also fast.

Yeah, it was very fast.

Jay Franze (11:23):
I have an appreciation for Metallica, but
they were never one of myfavorite bands and, like I
mentioned last week, I kind oflost respect when they did that
documentary that showed themwalking around with their
therapist.

That's all right their balls in their hand.

Jay Franze (11:38):
Glitter balls.

Pretty nuts.
I'm a quick study jay here yougo, you're not fired yet george
says you've been doing goodlately, lately, the last three
minutes.

Jay Franze (11:58):
I don't know something he meant last week
okay, let's talk about brianadams.

He has released his 17th studio album and I
still hate that we have to saystudio album.
Anyways, roll with the punchesis what it's called, and it's
coming out august 29th, 2025this year, and it features a mix
of rock and ballads, includingthe new single never, ever, let
you go I wonder if it's producedby Mutt Lang.

(12:25):
Would it say already.

Jay Franze (12:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's out already, george.
Get on that buddy who producedBrian Adams' new album.
But yeah, mutt Lang is the onewho produced the big hits and
Mutt Lang is considered probablythe world's best producer.
So I know we always say one ofthe world's best.
Mutt Lang is probably theworld's best.

(12:48):
Produced ACDC Back in Blackalbum.
He produced Shania Twain's bighits.

Mark, I see you shaking your head.
Yes, how do you know, mutt Lang?
Or is it that you appreciatethe work as much?

I know because, like Jay said, he's been one of
the biggest producers ever.
I mean, he was a big part ofthe responsibility for death
leopards, two biggest albums,two and what shot them through
the stratosphere, pyromania andhysteria.
Um, and he, just he was justone of those guys that you know.
He had the ear for what, whatneeded to be done and how to
make it next level in terms oflike rock but still be pop and

(13:25):
catchy and get on the radio andTV when they still play music
and you know that kind of thing.

Jay Franze (13:30):
Was it on through the night?

On through the night high and dry Pyromania,
then Hysteria.

Jay Franze (13:36):
I think um one of the albums before the drummer
lost his arms was also producedby Montlake.

That was Pyromania.

Jay Franze (13:44):
That was before the Arm.

Yeah, pyromania was before.
If you go back to the videosyou'll see Rock of Ages and
photographs.
He was there and then it wasafter that tour when the
accident happened.

What was the accident?

Jay Franze (13:57):
He crashed his Corvette.
He was in Europe and he was onone of those highways that you
can drive as fast as you want.
He had a Corvette and got in anaccident and lost his arm.
Yeah, that was a big deal,because they didn't want to lose
him as a drummer.
So they created an entire drumkit that allowed him to play
with one arm and obviously histwo feet, but it became much

(14:22):
more of a polished synthesizedsound.

He played barefoot.

Jay Franze (14:29):
Yeah, you know what?

I think he did.
Yeah, Interesting, oh oh, hereshe comes with facts.
Oh okay, Aria releasing theirdebut single Radio Free Europe,
to support news organizationsRadio Free Europe and Radio
Liberty Currently underfinancial threat.

(14:52):
Proceeds from the vinyl saleswill benefit those two programs.

Jay Franze (14:57):
Do you like REM?

I think I do because it's in it Losing my
religion.

Jay Franze (15:03):
You actually got one .
I'll give it to you.

I know I normally say Phil Collins for that one.
That's usually the mix-up andwhen I saw REM I was like sweet,
I finally get to say it.

Jay Franze (15:17):
I have respect for him.
I just was never the biggestfan.

When that song came out, I remember watching
the video on MTV.
Like every time it would comeon I'd come running into the
room, couldn't even tell you oneframe from the video now, but I
just remember every time itwould come on I just I had to go
in and listen to it.
My mom would call me and Tiff,it's on, it's on.

Jay Franze (15:37):
Once an hour.

Probably.

Jay Franze (15:40):
But that type of music I mean I can respect it.
I probably would enjoy it morenow, but when that music first
came out you were competing withall the hair metal bands, and
that's where my heart lied.
I was into the rock and metalmusic.
This was a little too smoothfor me.

Yeah, a little too tame, you needed some guitar
and some screaming.

That was also getting into the early 90s when,
you know, grunge was startingto take over for the hair, oh
yeah and bands like remtypically fell into the college
alt rock.
Or I was working in a musicstore at the time.
We called it complaint rock,because it was just so focused
on bitching about things andthat kind of made it lose its
charm a little bit for me too,because it's like enough of this

(16:25):
already.
May, I understand, you've gotyour, your opinions and you know
whatever, but I I don't want tohear it.
I just want to listen to someenjoyable music.
But I do.
I agree with Jay Like I respectthem and they've got some songs
that I do like They've justnever been a go-to for me.

Yeah, yeah we've talked about that before where
artists use the platform fortheir outside views other than
music, and you know they'repopular because we want to.
We want to hear their music.
And to be fair that's a band Idon't want to be fair, that band
, that was their thing.

Jay Franze (16:56):
It was like U2.
They that was their thing, theyweren't.
They weren't just jumping onsomething for the moment.

Jay gives them permission.
If they're like that, he givesthem permission.

Jay Franze (17:06):
You're either.
If you own it and you're all in, I've got no problem with it.
Do your thing.
I don't have to like it, but doit.
But if you're and as much as Ilike Taylor Swift, don't get me
wrong, I am a Swifty but I don'tlike when she talks about

(17:31):
politics because it's not herplatform, it's not what she
typically talks about.

That's not her thing.
So I'd rather just hear herplay her breakup music, and if I
want to hear the politicalstuff I'll go to U2 or REM or
something like that.
Well, you know, hannah becamewhatever music authority or
whatever you want to say, rightafter the Taylor Swift craze I
know we're still in it, but youknow what I'm saying the the big
wave right.
So we were listening to a songby Gracie Adams on the radio,
some song she likes and I waslike what's the other song again
?
So we pulled up and listened toit and I said, oh, she kind of

(17:53):
sounds like Taylor Swift.
And he was like no, she doesn't, and it's not really a negative
, that's a pretty big compliment.

Jay Franze (18:05):
Hannah is Tiffany's daughter.

She's 14.

So she's the music concierge all of a sudden,
because she knows all the newstuff and we're just with our
old people.

Music, that's the yes, yes, and Taylor's like so
we're the boomers, right, wekind of are now.
We're not boomers, we kind ofare now.

Jay Franze (18:26):
We're not boomers right, Boomers was before us.

No, no, we're X.

Jay Franze (18:30):
Generation.

X.
Yeah, okay, sonic TempleFestival is going to be in May.
Ooh, it's right now.
8th to the 11th Starts tomorrowIn Columbus, ohio.
I'm sure you've got tickets,jay.
You're going to go head up thefestival.

Jay Franze (18:44):
I'm not going to go to the festival.
I was talking to somebody aboutthat.
I love going to music and stuff, but I do not like crowds In
summertime festivals when you'reout in the heat and, granted,
it hasn't been hot here the pastcouple days but when you're out

(19:07):
in the heat and you're juststanding there there and no.
I want to sit down and becomfortable you know, preferably
backstage.

You've been spoiled.

Jay Franze (19:12):
No, even if I go to like an arena, I would rather
sit in the furthest seat, ashigh up as possible, away from
people, and then just be able tosit there and enjoy the show,
because I want to be able to getcomfortable.
I'm a little taller than theaverage person, so when I stand
up I always feel like I'mblocking somebody's view, so I'd
just rather be out of the way.

No, I want to be in the thick of it and I want to
be screaming words in eachother's faces because we're,
like, so pumped about whateverthe song is.
I want to jump up and down.
I want to be super sweaty nextto somebody else that's equally
as pumped and excited to bethere and loves the songs.
You made it to these.
You better.

(19:52):
You better gear up for July.

Jay Franze (19:56):
George, Thank you, he says yes mutt lying.

Ah, nice work, George.

Jay Franze (20:02):
That, george, you are earning that title tonight.
On it, if anybody wants to sendfan mail?
It's george at jfranzycom.

If it bounces back, just send it to j at
jfranzycom.

Jay Franze (20:14):
It won't bounce back .
You could send it to asshole atjfranzycom.
It still comes to me.

All right.
Well, if you end up going tothat festival, like I'm sure you
have tickets to you're going tosee Linkin Park, metallica and
Korn your favorite Metallica.

Jay Franze (20:33):
No, I don't mind seeing them.
Like I said, they're a talentedband and I hope somebody brings
up their bass player latertoday because he's a great
player, but Linkin Park is who Iwould like to see especially
with that newincoln park is whoI would like to see, especially
with that new singer, emily.
I would like to see lincoln.
I'm not a biggest fan of corn,it's not bad, it's just very
basic.

(20:53):
Yeah, they're very fast players, but they're the twitches all
the time.

All of a sudden, yeah very fast players.

Jay Franze (21:04):
Oh, like a bad rash, tiffany like a bad rash I know
moving right along.

Okay, welcome to rockville and daytona beach,
florida, just south of me.
It is going to be headlined bygreen day, lincoln park, corn
and shine down.
There's another festival.
It's going to be uh, boardwalkrock 2025 announced.
Say that twice.
No, say it five times, reallyfast.
Anyway, it's going to be inmaryland.
It's got def leppard motleycrew, nickelback and shine down.

(21:33):
Nickelback looks like thoseguys are all on a little circuit
there I don't care about defleppard.

Jay Franze (21:39):
I like their first two albums into the night, or
what was it mark?

we just said it on through the night, high and
dry on through the night andhigh and dry.

Jay Franze (21:46):
Those are the ones I like.

Yeah, those were like to me, the raw albums yeah,
before they were polished theywere like something like 19 or
20, I think, when they first didthat first one now there's a
good example too, because wetalked about mutt lang being the
best producer in the world, andhe makes highly polished albums
.

Jay Franze (22:06):
I mean highly polished albums, and I prefer
the first two because they wereraw.

There's more at the party.

Jay Franze (22:12):
I do Join the party.
Speaking of joining the party,bob Bullock worked on the Shania
Twain records with Mutt Lang.
Oh, so he got to witness itfirsthandt lang brought in brent
mason, who's arguably one ofthe, or probably the best guitar

(22:33):
player in national.
He's just an amazing guitarplayer.
Mutt lang brought him in toplay guitar and he played four
measures of a solo over and overagain for like four or five
days or whatever it was, untilMutt felt like they had the take
that he wanted.
So he's anal.

(22:55):
When I say I'm anal, he takesit to a whole nother level.
But next time Bob's on the showwe'll have to get him to tell
some of those stories from thosedays, because they did some
wild stuff.
They recorded that record inthe Bahamas and they may or may
not have broken some laws in themaking of that album.

I mean whatevs?

Jay Franze (23:15):
Only customs, don't worry about it.
Allegedly.

All right.
Well, we're going to revisitthe ACM Awards.
There's a little buzz, what?
What are you laughing about?

Jay Franze (23:29):
So they're going on right.
Never mind, just move on ACMAwards.
They do exist.

For tomorrow.
Yep, they're going to featureperformances Jelly Roll,
shaboozy, megan Moroney,showcasing a mix established of
emerging artists.
Showcasing a mix established ofemerging artists.
So, shibuzi, last week I saidthe song I was listening to was
called amen.
It was actually um, tell mesomething good.
Good news, good news.

(23:55):
That's what it is, so listenfor that instead are you sure?

Jay Franze (23:58):
anyway, george, do we need to fact check her?

no, no fact checking needed.
Amen is on the radio too, butthe one I heard was, um goodness
, just a little bit of good newsanyway.
Okay.
So hannah, speaking of meganmaroney, okay, her and her
little bff, they've beenplotting to go see megan maroney
.
Okay, then hannah says for herbirthday in march, she actually

(24:24):
wants to go see dylan scott.
So Scott's going to be inOrlando, we're going to go see
Dylan Scott.
Okay, fine, everything's goingto be great, not a crazy price
tag, right?
No, then she says she doesn'twant to go see him somewhere
close, she wants to go out oftown to go see him.
Me and myself, orlando's out oftown Anyhow.
So today in the car her birthdaywas in March we didn't go

(24:45):
anywhere, we didn't buy anytickets yet, we were just kind
of they wanted to go to Miami, Idon't want to go to Miami.
So I think Sean was like I wantto buy the tickets to make
Hannah happy, but I don't wantto buy the tickets because then
my wife, you know, will read methe right act.
So never stop complaining andblame him for anything bad that
happened on the trip.
So not that I did that.
So Anna says today.

(25:05):
She says, okay, I think what Idecided is I'm going to go to
Key West for my birthday I'mlike, okay, right, just checking
and then her friend for herbirthday in September.
They're going to go see MeganMaroney.
And I was like these girls havebeen trying to see Megan

(25:27):
Maroney forever.
First of all, I don't think hermusic is that great.
It all sounds the same and I'malready bored of it, like I
don't know.

Jay Franze (25:35):
The email goes to Tiffany at jfranzycom.

T-I-F-F-A-N-Y.

Jay Franze (25:44):
She's taking it with pride tonight, yeah.
Cause I'm not excited about theshow and you know, talk to us
about it.
It's jfranzycom slash live.

So yes.
So I don't know if we haveMegan Maroney in our future or
not, but it's kind of lookinglike it Probably not anymore.
Yeah, we probably still areokay yeah, yeah, probably still.
Yeah.
Well, kelsey ballerini defendsgenre crossovers, so we've
talked a lot about genrecrossovers.
In a recent interview, kelseyballerini addressed criticism of

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artists like beyonce and lanadel rey venturing into country
music.
She emphasized that countrymusic is rooted in storytelling
and should be inclusive, urgingskeptics to reconsider their
stance.
I think it's just hate againstthe Beyonce right.
I don't think it's allcrossover.

Jay Franze (26:38):
I have no problem with anybody joining any genre.
I mean Jelly Roll and what'sthe other dude's name?

I can't remember his name, can't remember Post
Malone.

Jay Franze (26:46):
Post Malone.
Are you sure it's Post Malone?
I mean, if he played with oneor two more artists I might be
able to remember his name, butbetween Jelly Roll and Post
Malone playing is, you know,crossing over?
I mean, I have no problem withany of that, because I think
that's truly who they are.
They're just going a littlefurther down the path of their
life.
Where I don't think Beyonce is,I think she's posing.

Lana Del Rey.
I think it's a marketing thing.

Jay Franze (27:12):
I think if she were to do some country music, I
don't think that would be a badthing for her.
She's kind of on the line.

Do you think she's maybe Girls Club Kelsey
Ballerini sticking up for them?
Or do you think she wants maybeGirls Club Kelsey Ballerini
sticking up for them?
Or do you think she wants tocross over and so she wants to
say like, oh, I've been stickingup for this the whole time?

Jay Franze (27:33):
Yeah, I guess that's possible.
I didn't think about it thatway.
She might want to do a littlebit of pop stuff, maybe collab
with some of those people.

They have played some of her stuff before.

Jay Franze (27:44):
Yeah, she's a crossover artist.

I mean, I could see that hannah and I love this
song by brandon lake.
It's called um a heartfelthallelujah and it's kind of
grungy.
I mean it's a little bit of agrittier christian song and I
almost passed out because itcame on secular radio the other
day and I was like hannah, Likethey're playing Britain Lake,
what is going on?
It's kind of cool, All right.

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Well, Miss Reba McIntyre oh,she's celebrating 50 years in
country music.
I'm seeing that she continuesto perform live Fancy remaining
one of her favorite songs toperform.
I actually interviewed yes, Iactually interviewed a good
friend of mine.
She actually became.
They became a huge sensation onyoutube.

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Smelly belly that was theirchannel name.
The kids have grown up and sothey've revamped their image a
little bit.
But when the kids were littleit was called smelly belly and
tara is the mom's name and tarakind of had that story play out.
So it was interesting to talkto her about the song and you
know what she thought about it.
Did you ever um interact withreba?

Jay Franze (28:53):
I've never worked with her but I've indirectly.
You know, jeff king was on theshow.
He's played on all her recordsand he goes on on the road with
her.
He can't say enough.
That's his like main artist.
He's all what brookston doneright now.
But I think if you would askhim who his main artist is, I
think he would say say Reba,he's been on all the TV shows,
all the late night shows withher and stuff, and her studio

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was awesome.
I told you she used to have theheliport on top of it and they
had to shut that down becauseshe was disturbing all the other
studios in Nashville.

So yeah, everybody I know that has a
connection to her loves her soyeah, everybody I know that has
a connection to her loves her,didn't we see?

Jay Franze (29:34):
a story that she fell in love with that?

Tony Scott (29:35):
co-actor on no I thought you're.

Oh no, she didn't fall in love with you, jay.
There's a show that she was on.
Why can't I remember the nameof it anyway?
Reba um, no, no it was the nameof her show.
Right, she had another showcame out not too long ago, maybe
, I don't know, three years agoor something.

Jay Franze (29:52):
George, what was the name of Reba's other show?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, george, tell us.

Jay Franze (29:57):
George is going to ask he's never going to come
here again.

He's like that's it.
These people are using that.
They're putting me to work.
I just came here to watch ashow and now I'm working.
I have to Google everything forthese morons.
Well, I was never so shocked aswhen I found out that my
father-in-law that is like hisbig crush is Reba McIntyre.

Jay Franze (30:23):
I can see it.
It wouldn't be my normal choice, nope it's not your type.
We've established.
I have a type.

She is a little bit chiseled, like you like,
though, like you like, thereally defined it's the power
that she has.

Tony Scott (30:35):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (30:36):
I appreciate the talent.
As long as she's singing, Icould be with her all day.

Wow, okay, well, I'm going to move on to this.
Honors and inductions.
And Mr Kenny Chesney is joiningthe Country Music Hall of Fame.
He is set to be inducted in theHall of Fame this year,
probably with their big hooplathat they're dealing with their
50 years, you know, bringingpeople in alongside June Carter

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I know we've talked about herbefore June Carter Cash, sorry.
And Tony Brown, we talked abouthim before.
This honor took Chesney bysurprise as he recounted what,
as he recounted to an intimateaudience.
That doesn't make sense to me.

Tony Scott (31:16):
At Hall of Fame announcement You're fired.

The announcement in Nashville, so.

Jay Franze (31:25):
We mentioned Tony Brown, and Tony Brown is one of
the old school traditional styleproducers out of Nashville.
He's one of the best, he'samazing and you know, I would
say there's probably fiveproducers out of Nashville that
stand leaps and bounds aboveeverybody else and Tony Brown's
one of those, for sure.
But Kenny Chesney's got somegood music's commercial.

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It's you know sing-songy and Ilike it.
It's got its place.

it's you know party type stuff well, we had
neighbors in minnesota and theyloved kenny chesney.
And then her husband kind ofresembled kenny chesney, like in
stature shout out joe marthalerif you're listening but but his
wife, peg, just absolutelyloved Kenny Chesney.
So he was always trying to youknow Chesney himself up for his

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bride, but her, his music wouldcome on and like the world would
stop and she would just singalong and like go somewhere else
in her mind, probably withKenny.

Jay Franze (32:27):
All right folks question of the day, probably
with Kenny alright folksquestion of the day, who is the
best bass player of all time.
It's a tough one, mark, you'rethe guest.
You want to take the honors andgo first, give us one.

I gotta go with the tie between Geddy Lee and
Steve Harris.

Jay Franze (32:43):
I literally just said give us one.
He started with two yes, hefires people.

for that, he's an overachiever.

Jay Franze (32:50):
He's an overachiever .
Tell us why.

Just because the intricacy is of what they play
and their musicianship and thatthey're just so different and
varied and unique.
I can hear either of themplaying in a song, even if I
don't know it's one of theirsongs, and can usually identify
that that's them.
There's very few musicians thatare like that.
Eddie Van Halen obviously notbass but guitar, but was one of

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those people and to me, on bass,geddy and Steve are those two,
those two kind of guys.

Jay Franze (33:22):
George agrees with you.
Geddy Lee, I'm going to goahead and reserve my right to
vote until later.
So, Miss Tiffany, do you haveany favorite bass players?

I do, you do, I do.
I remember from previousepisode you talked about being a
bassist, so I would say JayFrancie, oh nice.
So I would say Jay Francie.
And I did see a pretty meanbassist when I went to go see
Circe.
So I would have to say RichLabouti alright, again.

Jay Franze (34:01):
You said two, so you're fired as well.
You're not followinginstructions either.
You're an overachiever as well.

Jake can only come up with one match in the
front.
He's just feeling inadequate.

Jay Franze (34:15):
Yes, that's exactly it.
I would have to pull my nameout of the running, since I'm
probably the worst base playerin the reserve world, but
nonetheless, rich Labouti.
On the other hand, you know,cersei, he's good, I'll give it
to you.

Well, you can play two guitars, one of them
being a bass.

Jay Franze (34:37):
He started on bass and he plays the bass pedals now
when he's playing live.

How many basses can play the bass and the bass
pedals?

Jay Franze (34:45):
I don't know.
Alright, let's move on.

Tony Scott (34:49):
Caden Collins, I'll use his last name because he was
a guest on the show CadenCollins.

Jay Franze (34:54):
He says Scotty Simpson.

Oh, no surprise there.
Also a previous guest on theshow he plays for the.

Jay Franze (35:02):
Oak Ridge Boys.
All right, I'll take that.
He also says Eric Harley Brown.
I don't know who Eric HarleyBrown is.

George Google it.

Jay Franze (35:15):
Now you're taking orders from Mark.

You're a quick study, Mark.

Jay Franze (35:21):
Oh, that is funny, rena Freeman Watts.
She gets her full name becauseshe's been on the show before.
She says Flea.
It's not bad, not a bad choiceat all.
Charlotte says Roy, but I don'tknow Roy who.
Charlotte, if you want to chimein and fill in, oh wait, lux
Limousine follows up with sayingit's Roy Husky Jr.

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Joe.
Joe says Jocko Pistorius.

Good choice.

Jay Franze (35:53):
No, I'm going to go ahead and write it down If we're
going to vote for the best ofit all.
Jocko is up there for sure.
Jocko played with what theWeather Report so one of the
best in the world by far.
Joe also says John whistle andjames jamerson.
I would say james jamerson forsure.

(36:16):
What are your thoughts, mark?

I don't know, james, actually, so I'll defer
to you.

Jay Franze (36:23):
You say he's good.
I don't have a mark, you'refired button.
But if you find yourself comingback again, be prepared to have
a fired button.
Okay.

He lets all the power go to his head.

Jay Franze (36:39):
What happens?
You give me buttons, I'm goingto use them.
Valerie Valerie is George'swife and she comes on and she
says yes, george is my favoritebass player.
She does say, but she's alittle biased Joseph buddy.
He says obviously the one andonly Jay Franzi.

Smart.

Jay Franze (37:05):
Are you just sucking up, joe?
Are you sucking up?

take it, it's fine dave.

Jay Franze (37:13):
Dave says paul mccartney, but he says, if
you're gonna talk about studioplayers, james jameson or carol
king.
Carol king, she's a studiomusician and she's extremely
well known and she's a littleolder.
She's played on thousands ofhit records, so carol king is

(37:35):
definitely a good choice.
Another joe joe chimes in saysjohn paul jones, bass player
from led Zeppelin.
Scotty Simpson, bass player forthe Oak Ridge boys with us in
the house.
He gets his full name becausehe's been on the show not only

(37:57):
thanking Caden it's not onlythinking, caden, but he is
chiming in with Pino like PinotNoir, I concur.
Oh, pinot Grigio sandy justfollowed up and says no, scotty,

(38:18):
I really think you're at thetop oh.
I love you, scott the sessionbassist there, you, you go.

And that's why Scotty knows him.
He has played bass for a numberof acts.
So the who, john Mayer Trio,gary Newman, paul Young, don
Henley, david Gilmour, go West,tears for Fears, nine Inch Nails
, jeff Beck, adele and D'Angeloso he's played on a few records.

Jay Franze (38:55):
Pretty credible.
All right, I don't want toleave anybody else.
I'm going to go through theseand try to get through them
fairly quickly.
Amanda follows up with yes,jocko, for sure.
Brandon says I agree with MarkGetty.
Carlos says flee, emily.
Now, this was probably going tobe my vote.
Should I save Emily to the lastas well, or should I spoil it
now?

This is going to be your vote.

Jay Franze (39:20):
I think so.

Okay, then I think, save it to the end.

Jay Franze (39:23):
Alright, emily, please hang on.

Please hold.

Jay Franze (39:29):
Please go on standby .
Derek says James Jameson, he'sfrom the Funk Brothers.
Laura says Paul McCartney Again, Paul McCartney, songwriter.
I don't really think of him asa talented musician.
Do you think the Beatles weretalented?

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Mark like musicians I do.

I think they're great songwriters, I think
they're talented musicians.
But would I put paul mccartneyat the top of the bass players?
No, like, he's a traditionalbass player and you know he does
a good job and he's obviouslymade a little more money yet
that I have.
But I just I, when you think of, like top bass players, he's
obviously made a little moremoney yet than I have.
But when you think of top bassplayers, he's not somebody that
typically comes to mind to me,it's just more standard bass

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playing, I think.

Jay Franze (40:13):
Okay, let me take that a step further.
Tangent who do you think is abetter vocalist, Paul McCartney
or Kelly Clarkson?

Kelly Clarkson Thank you Sorry, Bob.

You get to stay.
You've earned your way back onthe show, all right um wait, I
want to ask you guys both, whenyou're considering the criteria
for being the best bassist, what, what do you?
It's somebody who can use thewhole.
Is it called the strat, thewhole strat, the neck, the whole

(40:47):
neck.
They can, yeah, don't do that.
Okay, so they can use the wholeneck.
Or is it how fast they play?
Is it that they collaboratewell with others?
Like what?
What are you basing this off of?

Jay Franze (41:01):
you want to go first , you want me to go first?
you go first I think yes, I mean, when you're talking about the
average bass player, hopefullythey can play the player,
hopefully they can play thewhole neck and they can play the
different parts of the neck atthe proper times so you get the
right tone for the right feeland the right song.
But I think it's how you playthe notes.
It's not necessarily what notesyou're playing, it's how you're

(41:22):
playing them and if you'replaying them appropriately.
So you're playing a tastefulpiece for a slower song maybe,
but maybe you have the abilityto rip and play fast on a song
that might need that, like aMetallica song.
That's part of what makes thatbass player Mark.
Do you remember what his nameis?
It's something that's very hardto pronounce.

Robert.

Jay Franze (41:42):
Trujillo, trujillo, thank you, oh it's because
you're from Arizona.
He is a monster.

I feel the double L thing.

Jay Franze (41:52):
I would not have gotten that right.
But he's a monster at the bassfor that style of music for sure
.
But, like some of these othersthat have been mentioned, james
Jamerson or even Marcus Milleris coming up.
Dennis Dennis is Marcus Miller.
Marcus Miller is a killer bassplayer, I mean, just one of the
best.
But it's knowing what to play,when to play it, the feel of how

(42:14):
you're playing it, how yourfingers are touching the
fretboard Mark.
What are your thoughts?

I think it's a lot of what you're talking about
too, but it's not evennecessarily speed or how many
notes they play, but knowingwhat to play or how to keep in
the groove or what kind ofintricate bass lines they're
doing.
And you know underneatheverything, because you know
bass and drums form the rhythmsection of a song and you know
how are they in lockstep andwhat kind of, what kind of bass

(42:41):
lines are they playing to.
You know compliment, everythingelse that's going on in the
song, and you know, you knowspeed is part of it.
You know intric else that'sgoing on in the song, and you
know you know speed is part ofit.
You know intricacy of whatthey're doing, like different
scales, what their choices arethat they're making when they're
, when they're coming up withtheir bass lines, and you know
you just you hear a uniquenessin some of these players that
you just don't hear in otherpeople, unless you're trying to

(43:02):
copy what they're doing do youthink it's fair to say?

it's almost like you know how we talked about
distinctive voices.
It's like some players justplay at a skill or whatever.
That it's kind of like having aunique voice, almost.

Jay Franze (43:17):
Yeah, it's definitely a unique voice, like
Mark mentioned earlier, when youhear somebody perform without
seeing them and you can stilltell who it is.
And it's like having a largevocabulary.
You know you don't use it atall times, but when you need to
use it it's there for you.
And it's also being poetic.
You know anybody can read you astory, but some people can just

(43:39):
read you a story and draw youin.
So it's the same thing with allof this stuff.

Okay, fair enough .

Jay Franze (43:46):
Aaron says Les Claypool, he played with Primus,
still plays with Primus,extremely, extremely talented.
And again, it's a wholedifferent language when he plays
.
He's not playing English.

He does a lot of slot face too, doesn't he?

Jay Franze (44:04):
It's one of those things where it's like this at
all times His hands just likeshaking.
It's convulsing things.
Where it's like this at alltimes His hands just like
shaking he's convulsing Too muchcoffee.
Tanisha new here.
Thank you for being here withus, but Tanisha says Bootsy
Collins Parliament Funkadelic.
I have to say it's low, mark.
You'll realize here.
I am not good at speaking fastand Tiffany's not good at

(44:27):
remembering things.
You think I'm bad, you?

don't have to remind me of that.
I've known you almost 40 years.

Jay Franze (44:34):
You think I have a bad memory.
Oh, jason says that we're wrong.
He says Jay Mark, you are wrong.
If we're talking aboutMetallica, we're talking about
Cliff Burton.

Oh, absolutely.
But well, metallica has hadthree phenomenal basses.
I just didn't mention Cliffbecause Jay was talking about
Robert, but Cliff was a beast aswell too, and he was a very
musically inclined person, like.
He knew a lot of music theoryand was a lot of the reason that
their first couple of albumssounded the way they do, because
of his ear for things and theway they arranged it and what he

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brought to the table.
And cliff is a madman all right.

Jay Franze (45:14):
Due to time, I'm going to move you in faster what
all the guys say true statementwe don't have to go fast
because the feeling is the sameto us.
Nate Fair enough.
Nate says Billy Sheehan when heplayed with Mr Big and also he

(45:37):
played with David Lee Roth, butBilly Sheehan is one of my
favorites.
Yes, it's hard to narrow thislist down.
It's a tough list.

We saw Billy that David Lee Roth show we were
talking about.
Billy was the bass player atthe time, steve Vai on the
guitar.
That was a hell of a band.

Jay Franze (45:52):
Yeah, yeah, that's a talented band.
David Lee Roth had no problemwith picking some of the best
players in the world, and he hadto If he was going to go on the
road and compete like a reasonfor leaving Van Halen and
compete at all.
He had to have the best of thebest, so and he did.

I say a lot of people say that first album Eat
Em and Smile.
They say that was what the nextVan Halen album should have
been, instead of what Van Halencame out with with Sammy, which
was a great album in its ownright.

Jay Franze (46:18):
Right, yeah, absolutely I agree.
Harper says what are we doing?
We're not mentioning Geezer,geezer Butler from Black Sabbath
.
There's just too many.
Greg says Donald Duck, dunn.
Jordan says what about Stingand Riley?

(46:41):
I cannot.
I mean, I appreciate you beinghere and all, but I cannot agree
with Mike Durnt from Green Daybeing one of the best bass
players.
Sorry, and Alicia forget it forsure.
Nikki Sixx is not one of thebest bass players ever.

I think even Nikki will admit that no.
I mean Alright.

Jay Franze (47:02):
I think we have enough to cast our votes, so let
me go down the list of whatI've made note of and aren't we
gonna get your pick?
Oh, you want my pick yeah, whatwas it, emily?
She's been holding for a longtime, sorry, it's gonna be even
worse if you've missed herpisses me off more than when I

(47:22):
hold this whole time it is emily.
See, you were afraid that Iwouldn't be able to go a long
time.

Guess what.

Jay Franze (47:31):
Emily.
All right, Emily, not yet.
When I lived in Nashville, Itook bass lessons from a guy
named Reggie.
Reggie was an absolutelyamazing musician and Reggie had

(47:53):
a handful of brothers.
He was the eldest of thebrothers and he taught all of
his brothers how to play theirinstruments, including the bass
player that I like.
So I took lessons from Reggie,who also taught my favorite bass
player.
Reggie and the brothers have aband called the Wooten Brothers.

(48:15):
If you ever have a chance to gosee the Wooten Brothers, when I
lived there they played at 3rdand Lindsley every Wednesday
night.
Small, intimate venue, greatplace to go see them.
But the Wooten Brothers bassplayer was Victor Wooten.
Victor Wooten plays for Bella,Fleck and the Flecktomes and,
judging by the look on you andMark's face, neither one of you

(48:36):
know who he is.
Man, that's going to be a hardone for me to put on the top of
this list.
It was a good story, Jay.
Emily says Victor Wooten.
All right, fine, emily, I agreewith you, but let's see who
ends up on top, because I pickedlizzie hale and somehow pat
benatar ended up on top.
So, and lizzie hale, sorry, Imean your song, your, your

(49:01):
latest darkness, always winsgreat song, but man, it's a slow
start, slow start.
I've been listening to it moreand more just to see if I still
agree with that theory.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (49:12):
Yeah, I do like the song a lot.
All right, here's the list.
Bootsy Collins We'll put him upagainst Jocko.

I'm going to say Bootsy because the name is cool.

Jay Franze (49:28):
I can understand your theory, Mark.
Can we get a more technicalresponse out of you?

I would probably go with Jocko over the two of
those, but to be fair, I'm notfamiliar with either of them.
Deep catalog just a few songseach.

Jay Franze (49:45):
I'm going with Jocko Absolutely.

Wow, alright, going with Jocko, absolutely.

Jay Franze (49:49):
Wow, all right, let's go with Les Claypool or
Flea.

I'll say Flea, because most people say Flea or
it was mentioned multiple times.

Jay Franze (50:04):
Technical answer Mark.

That's a tough one.
I would probably go with Lesover flea on that, but I think
fleas got some great stuff too.

Jay Franze (50:13):
George, but you can chime in at any time, or any of
these as well, but I am goingwith less as well, yeah, all
right, then we got like y'alldon't like my logic, or what?
No, I love your logic.

I can't persuade you guys to come to my side.

Jay Franze (50:32):
Oh, george says flee , that would give us a tie,
george, really.

Because George is on my side.

Jay Franze (50:37):
Alright, we'll hold on to both of them until the
next round.
James Jameson or Victor Wooten?
We already know who I'm goingwith, tiffany.
Victor Wooten how fun is it tosay the Wooten Boys or Victor.

Wooten.
We already know who I'm goingwith Tiffany Victor Wooten.
How fun is it to say the Wootenboys or the Wooten band?

Jay Franze (50:53):
The Wooten brothers.

The Wooten brothers.
That's what I said.

Jay Franze (50:57):
Yeah, that's what I thought I just wanted to make
sure I heard you right, yeah,mark.

I would go with Victor on there.
I don't know I.
I would go with Victor on there.
I don't even know who James isand Victor, I know minimal stuff
, but I've heard of him.
All right, Just my criteriathere.
Tiffany, I'm with you on that.

I heard of him too tonight about 10 minutes ago
.

Jay Franze (51:17):
All right, moving on to the next round.
It's going to be a tough one.
I am going to put Jocko upagainst Les Claypool.

I mean Jocko's, more fun to say.

Jay Franze (51:33):
Mark for the technical answer.

Probably Jocko, but I've got to ask what
happened to Getty?
He got a few votes earlier.
Where did he go?

Jay Franze (51:42):
All right, we'll put Getty back on the list.
He was so good he skipped roundone.

Oh, okay, he got the golden buzzer.

Jay Franze (51:51):
good he got the golden buzzer he advanced a
couple of rounds so, as far asjocko, and who were you on jocko
and les claypool tiffany, youchose jocko because you like the
way it sounds and Mark, who didyou choose?
Jocko, jocko.

That's a tough one for me.

Jay Franze (52:16):
Jocko is probably the better bass player, but I
like Les Claypool better, sosorry, les Jocko, all right, and
then Flea or Victor Wooten.

I mean, you can't get a more fun name to say than
Wooten Wooten Brothers.
It's like woo-hoo Wooten Mark.

I'm going with Flea only because I know his
work and I don't know much ofVictor's.

Jay Franze (52:46):
All right, I'm going with Victor's, so Victor's
advancing George says he can'tspell Wooten.
I think you spelled it justfine right there, buddy, it
looks like it's right.
All right, geddy, lee or Jocko.

Geddy for me.

I just like Mark.
So I'm going to say Gettybecause I like Mark.

Jay Franze (53:14):
George, Getty Lee or Jocko.
I am saying Jocko, I needGeorge to chime in to give me
any chance whatsoever.

George, think long and hard about it.
Choose wisely.

Jay Franze (53:34):
He says Geddy Lee, george, where is it?

Tony Scott (53:40):
George, you're fired .

Oh, oh, oh.

Jay Franze (53:46):
All right.
So Jocko buddy sorry Geddy Leeor Victor Wooten for the win.
What happened to me on theother one?

I think we know my answer on this one.

Jay Franze (53:58):
Oh, you're still going with your answer, huh.

I'm going with Geddy, I'm going with Wooten.

Jay Franze (54:04):
George Geddy Lee or Victor Wooten.
I want it to be spelled likeW-H-U-T-I or Victor Wooten.

I want it to be spelled like W-H-U-T-I-N Wooten
Wooten.

Jay Franze (54:14):
You could want that, but you'd be wrong.
Alright, I'm going with Victor.
So we've got two for Victor andone for Geddy.
Damn it, george.
And George says Getty, we havea tie.

Tony Scott (54:30):
What are we?

Jay Franze (54:31):
doing in case of a tie.
Somebody please break our tie.

We need somebody help us.

Jay Franze (54:41):
That's not what I.
I don't want a buzzer.
Hold on, let's try that again.
Holly, jay, holly, jay Hollysays Victor Wooten.

Oh, the final vote came in.

Tony Scott (54:56):
Jay, you're awesome, no.

Jay Franze (55:02):
Just got to go with whatever AI Trump says.

Why do you get that?
You're awesome, but we getfired.

Jay Franze (55:10):
I don't know, that's just what he said.

Is that what AI Trump said?

Jay Franze (55:14):
Okay, Holly, thank you.

Victor.

Jay Franze (55:18):
Wooten, I appreciate you.
All right, I'm okay with that.

All right.
Bill Burr latest special dropdead years.
It's recently dropped and it ispraised for showcasing personal
growth and artistic evolution,positioning him as a contender
for one of the greatest stand-upcomedians ever.
I know that you are a big fan,jay.
His willingness to be honestabout his current self despite

(55:46):
audience expectations has beenhighlighted as a bold move.

Jay Franze (55:50):
He is from where.

Boston.

Jay Franze (55:54):
What color is his hair?

Red Red.

Jay Franze (55:59):
He comes across as a Bostonian doing comedy.
Yeah, yeah.
I do appreciate the fact thathe's straightforward, but he is
like real hardcore Bostonian tome and some of his stuff you
don't know when he's kidding, soit comes across pretty harsh

(56:20):
sometimes, but anyways I likehim overall.

I like anybody who can be real.

Oh, I love Bill.
I think he's great and I thinkpart of it is exactly what
you're saying is the wholeBoston connection there too,
because I think we understandthe attitude, you know, and
that's what makes it evenfunnier.

Jay Franze (56:39):
He's a mess hole for sure.

Oh yeah, no, I think he's great and I keep
waiting for him to come aroundhere so I can go see him live.

Mr Conan O'Brien, another Bostonian, redheaded.

Jay Franze (56:52):
So you got red hair yeah.

Received the prestigious Mark Twain Prize for
American Humor at the KennedyCenter, celebrated with Netflix
special May 4th, featuringtributes from comedians like
John Mulaney, will Ferrell andBill Burr.
Bill who Bill Burr?

Jay Franze (57:13):
I like Conan as well .

I'm a big fan of Will Ferrell.

Jay Franze (57:17):
Yeah.

Them saying that comedians like that Will Ferrell
, like seriously in any movie,I'm there for it front and
center, the whole movie too,Like I'm not messing around my
phone or nothing.

Jay Franze (57:29):
Yeah, who was it?
Grayson Russell that was on theshow?
That said he was just supernice?

I think I would like to have Will Ferrell be a
uncle or something, or cousin atholidays.
I think I told you right,that's like my.
My measure, If I really likethem or not, is if I start
envisioning holidays.
You know a little bit ofbourbon and a funny person.

Jay Franze (57:51):
You are a little disturbing from time to time.

Why.

Jay Franze (57:56):
I don't know.

Bourbon's delicious.

Jay Franze (57:58):
No, I'm not talking about the bourbon part.
I'm talking about your theoryof.
I like to picture them in myholiday tables.

Yeah, yeah, can't you imagine just just shooting
the crap with them and then yougo to take a sip and they say
something funny to one of yourkids and then you got bourbon
coming up through the nose?

Jay Franze (58:17):
That's exactly how I picture my holidays.

I have a very active imagination, Jay.

Jay Franze (58:26):
True story.

Anywho, david Spade Latest stand-up special is
Dandelion.
It's now streaming on PrimeVideo.
I can't wait to check it out.
The special features Spade'ssignature sardonic humor
Speaking of a large vocabularythat you don't use very often.
Sardonic humor touching oncelebrity culture, personal
anecdotes and life observations.

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I think he'd be pretty funny.

Jay Franze (58:54):
I think he's funny.
I just he's one of thoseacquired tastes.

I think he could also be like a little bit could
go a long way.

Yeah, I like speed.
I the last couple of standupspecials of his.
I've seen them.
I thought they were great.
I like his sarcastic sense ofhumor and his kind of way of
approaching it.

Yeah, I like that time when Chris Farley and
David Spade were doing all thosemovies together.
Dan Aykroyd I liked all thosemovies and his sarcasm Good
comedic timing All right moviesand his sarcasm and yeah, good,
good comedic timing, all right.
Dave chappelle recently jokesabout kevin spacey's special
having sparked backlash, withsome viewers upset over

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references to spacey's allegedharassment victim I don't have
any problem with it, mark.

Jay Franze (59:43):
Does it bother you when people make jokes like that
?

no, because because I think context is key.
And you know, when they'retalking about certain subjects
or talking about certain people,yeah, they are making digs at
it, but they're also makingjokes around the subject and to
me there's pretty much nosubject that is off limits, as
long as the context is correct.
I mean, if you're doing it justto be a jerk are you're doing

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it just, you know, to becontroversial, or you're doing
it for those kind of reasons,those are the wrong reasons.
But if you've got something tosay and there's something around
it, it's not necessarily a badthing.
It might not be your taste, butyou know that doesn't mean that
just because you don't like it,the rest of the world shouldn't
be be allowed to like it either.

Tiffany Mason (01:00:26):
Okay, well, my song was God and Guns N' Roses.
That's true, tyler Braden.

Jay Franze (01:00:32):
All right.

I'm not asking you.

I was going to give a little bit of history before
you just jump in it.
You talk about men wanting tofinish fast.
Holy cow.
I was just going to say we'veadded this.
I told you Metallica.
That's true, mark.
She chose Metallica as themusic to make.
Whoopee too, I said it gavewhole new meaning to enter
sandman.

(01:00:57):
Anyways, let's not go there,let's not take our left right
now we started a new segmentcalled recommendations, where we
would like to recommend music.
Because of tiffany's vastknowledge of the entertainment
industry, we would like torecommend some music, so we have
chosen to go back and forth.
Last week I introduced a songby a band called cersei.

Now miss tiffany so tyler braden, uh, and the
song is god and Roses, and I didlook up barely a little bit of
information about him and he isfrom Slapport, alabama, and he
has actually performed with LukeBryan and Bruxen Dunn.

Okay.

Is that the end of that story?

This is your pick.

Okay.
So I will tell you why I choseit.
So I like that def lepper, gunsand roses, aerosmith, that's,
that's.
I just have such strongmemories of being on the bus,
shelly mckeever, her pink taperecorder, she put the tape in,
we listened to the whole way toswim lessons, and so it's fun
for me that they um, it's calledGod and Guns N' Roses and they

(01:02:10):
allude to the Guns N' Rosestitles and it's just kind of
clever.
And I think I've mentionedbefore I love really clever
lyrics and so I like theintertwining of the titles of
some of the Guns N' Roses songsand I like there's like a little
weird thing when he says theword side, he sings the word
side.
When he says of the B side, sheknew every all of B side or

(01:02:35):
whatever I don't have the lyricsmemorized, but anyway, when he
says the word side, it's like alittle, you know, not vocal
acrobats necessarily, butthere's like a little switch of
the notes right there and Ithink that that's kind of cool.
Thank you, and inflection yes.

Mark, let me just point out to you here the rules
of this game.
It wouldn't be, it wouldn'tjust be a segment of ours if we
didn't turn it into a game.
So the rules of this game welike to think of the quality of
the song, the quality of theperformance and then the quality
of the production, so that waywe can rate our scale on

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whatever that is and we can kindof decide whether or not we
think it's a quality song.
Fair enough, Sure, All right.
So you got anything else to addto this one?
I will add this that it isParadise City, Right.

So you got anything else to add to this one
, miss Tiffany?
I will add this that it isParadise City.
And there's another song out byRussell Dickerson that just
came out and it's calledHappened to Me and he's talking
about her being on the dancefloor singing to Paradise City.
And remember we talked aboutwhen the song came out about

(01:03:45):
selling the truck.
They had to sell the truckbecause it reminded them too
much of the girls.

Was that a country song?
Yes, I get confused, becausenormally when I think of country
, I don't think of a song abouta truck.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a truck in there.
So two songs came out about atruck at that time, and so I
think it's interesting that nowit's happening again where these
two songs came out, and they'reboth talking about Paradise
City.

Clever, I see how you tied it in there, all right.
Well, mark, do you want to givea general thought on the song
itself?

Mark Badolato (01:04:20):
I agree with Tiffany that it's cool with the
mentioning of some of the GunsN' Roses songs in there.
So if you're familiar with GunsN' Roses, it's always cool to
hear that you mentioned wherehe's talking about the word
B-sides.
Does anybody even know what aB-side is anymore?
That's the biggest question.
Sneaking that lyric in thereand people are like what does
that mean?

How do I flip this MP3?

That's a good point.
That's a really good point,Mark that's a good point.

That's a really good point, mark.
I mean I agree with both of you.
I think the song's clever.
So if we're going to talk aboutthat first portion of our
rating system and the quality ofa song, I think lyrically it's
a really good song.
But I mean it's, it's a naturalsong.
They're.
They write stories all day long.
They write very clever stories.
I think that's a very good one.
Um rain ball, he's one of thesongwriters and he's very clever

(01:05:10):
.
I'll give it to him.
So I appreciate the clevernessof that.
But if we take it a stepfurther, rain and um Sam
Martinez are the two producersfrom the song.
When you bring two producers in,a lot of times they can butt
heads when producing a song,because the whole point of a

(01:05:32):
producer is to guide a projectthe way you think it's going to
be.
So these two people aredifferent, where Rain wrote the
song and Rain was also involvedin the editing of the song.
So if he's involved in theediting of the song, that tells
me he wrote the song and he'sediting and arranging it the way

(01:05:52):
he wants to hear it as theengineer.
However, when Sam came in, samis the person who actually
recorded it.
So that's telling me he's theperson running things when their
musicians are playing.
So Rain is also a performer, sohe was in the room playing

(01:06:13):
while Sam's recording, and thenit probably leads me to believe
that Sam is more of a technicalengineer and probably led the
session and probably assisted inthe mixing.
So I think to me those twodifferent types of producers
blend well in this case.

Would a band or an artist or whatever know to
request two producers, or how doyou end up with two producers?
It feels to me like too manycooks in the kitchen.

I think it's up to probably the lead producer.
They bring in somebody whospecializes in something else.
A lot of times people call themsession leads or lead musician
instead of two differentproducers.
So like when Bob Bullock isproducing a record, he's got
Chris Lusinger in there with him.

Chris.

Lusinger is the one communicating the technical
information to the musicians.
He's the one charting the songsand he's the one communicating
how those charts are going to beread and performed.
Where Bob is talking aboutfeeling and sounds, chris is
talking about technical stuff.
In the past I've worked a lotwith a guy named Jim Cristaldi.

(01:07:22):
We've produced records together.
Jim Cristaldi is extremelymusically gifted and he's good
at performing all theinstruments.
He's good at writing the songs.
He's good at all of that stuffwhere I'm more of the engineer.
So even though I know what Iwant to hear and I'll do the
editing and arranging and thattype of stuff, jim is the guy

(01:07:44):
who's guiding things musically.
So Jim would be, the ChrisLusinger and I would be the Bob
Bullock in that scenario.

Tony Scott (01:07:52):
That's the way I think of it anyway.
Okay.

Not to go too far off track here, but because
we're talking about theproducers I forget the guy's
name, but the guy who justproduced the new Hailstorm
record.
He took an extremely differentapproach with Hailstorm and
that's why the record sounds asdifferent as it does.
He took an approach where LizzyHale came in and said okay,

(01:08:18):
these are the songs that we'vebeen working on.
Here's 10 to 15 songs, let's goahead and work through them.
And he said no, I'm going to goahead and push those aside.
He goes I want you to writesongs right now.

Whoa.

And as they were writing them right then, and
there he's pressing record, sohe's recording their thoughts
and turn those thoughts into thefinished recording.
He didn't even have themrerecord it.
Literally, I'm pressing recordas you're thinking and I'm going
to turn these thoughts into thefinished recording.
So that's why the album has acompletely different feel than

(01:08:52):
their previous records ohinteresting, I'm gonna go listen
to all of it now yeah anyways.
so if we're going to take itfrom the, the three pillars that
we discuss, let's start withthe quality of the writing.
What are your thoughts on thewriting Epic?
Give me a scale of one to three, three being the best.

I mean I have to go three because I like clever.

Okay, mark, one to three.

I would go two, because I think it is clever,
but at the same time I meanyou've got a few guns and roses
songs mentioned in there, butother than that I mean it's a
typical, you know storytelling,you know kind of song in there.
There wasn't anything thatstood out to me beyond that.

That's a tough one.
I give it three because it'sclever and I think they did a
good job writing it.
But I see your point.

You know, if we had a half scale I'd probably go
two and a half.
But because we don't I mean,it's our show, jay, it is our
show.
We do whatever the f we want todo.

You know what?
That's true, but then thatwould mean I'd have to remember
math and I'd have to startwriting things down so I'm gonna
go with three so we've got a.
we got an eight on the starthere.
All right.
So the next is the performance.
How well do we think the songwas performed?
So I'll start there.

(01:10:12):
I mean, we use Nashvillemusicians, we use Nashville
producers and we sang in one ofthe best studios in the world
and we did all this.
So I'm going to say that theperformance to me was a three.
I agree, the performance to mewas a three.

I agree.
And I agree because I like thetonality of his voice and I like
that little inflection that hedoes when he says the word side
sings the word side.
It has a haunting feel at thebeginning of the intro as well.
Yeah, that's a good word.
I was trying to think of what Iwanted melancholy but that
wasn't really right.

(01:10:45):
Yeah, a's a good word.
I was trying to think of what Iwanted melancholy but that
wasn't really right, yeah, alittle haunting.

Mark your thoughts on the performance aspect of the
song.

I thought it was good.
I would go with probably athree on there, since we don't
have half stars so I can't dotwo and a half, but yeah, I mean
, you know it sounded good, itwas good quality, the musicians
sounded good, the the musicianssounded good, the vocals sounded
good.
Sounded good to me, wellproduced.

Three across the board, that's nine.
All right now the actualproduction, the recording, the
mixing, the editing or themastering of the recording.

How well do you think the production was?
I mean, like you say, it's aNashville recording.
It's clean, there's not.
He's not off anywhere, anywhere.
There's not any sometimes.
Do you ever notice like thebackups are equal or almost
louder, or somehow they standout some way, shape or form?
I mean, you probably know howto do that, but I don't like

(01:11:40):
that.
Like I want to be tricked.
I want to think it's one voiceand on that recording I'm
tricked.

There you go, Mark.
Thoughts on the production.

Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what I said a
minute ago too that I thoughtthe production sounded, you know
, good.
And you know, then again, youknow, in today's day and age,
with the digital tools that wehave, I mean you, jay, know
better than anybody with yourpool for this background, that
you know pretty much anyproduction that's done
professionally is going to soundpretty damn good, unless you've
got a producer that's going forsomething really weird and it

(01:12:11):
just doesn't land correctly.
But I thought the productionvalue of it was good.

Yeah, so I go three yeah, I agree, dave klaus is the
engineer who mixed it I mean Ithink he did a great job mean,
when you're dealing with thoseamazing players and the best
studios and all of that stuff,you've got good material to work
with.
But, like Miss Tiffany said,even though you have good
material to work with, it stilltakes a true artist to be able

(01:12:36):
to blend it and mix it togetherand make it sound as good as it
could possibly sound.
And in my opinion, even thoughas a mix engineer, there might
be things that I would dodifferently, I think this person
did what they felt was the bestand I think they did a great
job.
So, dave klaus, good job way togo, so I would give it a three,

(01:12:56):
so that's nine.
So it's shy of a perfect scoreby one, one point I know good
music.

Jay, let me ask you a question based on
something you just said there.
When you listen to musictypically, do you usually listen
to it from an engineerstandpoint, or do you listen to
it from a fan standpoint,engineer standpoint.

I mentioned this on the show once before.
If you were to look at my applelibrary, my library of music,
it is sorted by engineer andproducer, and part of that's
because I used to teach at theengineering college and when I
would teach the students I wouldyou know.
If they mentioned a song Iwould say, well, that was mixed
by this person, that wasengineered by this person or

(01:13:42):
produced.
That way it teaches thestudents what to look for, but
it also allows you to get toknow who's in the industry.
You know, most people aren'tgoing to hear the name Dave
Klaus, and they should, becausehe's the talent that brought
that song to life.
If it wasn't for him, that songcould have easily been mixed
poorly and it could take themagic away from it.

(01:14:05):
So I I think I listened to this, this three pillar system, but
I think I always started withthe production, because if the
production doesn't sound good, Idon't want to listen to the
song.
It's got to sound good firstand then I can get into.
How well is the song?

written or how does it make?

me feel yeah very good.
George, I don't know if you hada chance to listen to it, but
please tell us your thoughts aswell.
Anybody else, if you know thesong, tell us your thoughts.
But I think it was a good songoverall, not a bad pick.
I've heard of the song at thispoint, but I've never listened
to it, so it was good toactually take a moment to listen
to it, and not only listen toit but, as we say, critically,

(01:14:42):
listen to it.

See if you could tear me down when you got on the
show.
I don't want to tear you down.

I want to find good music.

That's what I want.
That's the whole purpose ofthis is to open each other up to
good quality music or greatquality music.
Let's say that Great we don'twant good we want great Right,
all right.
My chance to recommend one.

Yes, lay it on me .

All right, maddie M-A-T-T-Y.
Mcree M-C-R-E-E.
Maddie McRee In the song titletrack of the album Closer to
More, and it was hard to pick asong, but I'm going with Closer

(01:15:27):
to More and it was hard to picka song, but I'm going with
Closer to More.
Okay, I've written it down, Allright.
Well, what?

else we got going on.
Well, why don't you tell usabout what you have going on?

I would be happy to tell you about what I have going
on.

Yeah, who you been talking to.

This week I had a chance to talk with Sherry Rowe.
Sherry Rowe, country artist outof Arizona.
We've got Arizona going aroundthe horn tonight.

Arizona in the house.

George wanted to make sure we knew that he was
from Arizona as well.
We know that, George.
We could not possibly forget it.
So, everybody's from Arizona andif it wasn't for Mr Long-haired
Mark here, I wouldn't knowanything about Arizona.
But Mark had me move out toArizona to go to Arizona State
and I lasted one semester.

(01:16:15):
Because of the brutal heat Ichanged all my classes to night
classes.
It was 122 degrees a day.
I got there and this was beforecell phones.
So when I got there and I hadto pick up a pay phone to call
Mark and I burnt my hand.
But I did go back to ArizonaState later in life, online, and
I did finish my program.

(01:16:36):
So it took a while but Ifinished that program because
the OCD in me couldn't leave itunfinished.
But yes, I talked to CherieRowe.
George says she was amazing,she was a really talented artist
, or is a very talented artist,and she was a very good person
to talk to.
It was fun.
But this week Gina Fritz thatwas released on Monday Gina

(01:17:00):
Fritz was a or is a I keepsaying was Make it sound like
these people have passed away.

I don't mean that , gina you're still with us.

We love you she has been gina fritz is a rock closer
to the metal style of music.
Very good artist and verycolorful hair.
Oh, all right.
Well, last couple things I wantto mention.
I can't go without mentioningmy daughters, because that's the
activities that I seem to dothroughout the week.
Lucy had another dancecompetition over at the casino.

(01:17:30):
It was at Belterra in.
Indiana.
Anyways, we were there.
She performed again.
They got one more competitionleft.
This year it will be inNorthern Ohio, Sandusky.
And that's coming sometime thissummer, and that's the one where
I want to see my daughter shine.

So we will see.

And then Bella, of course she.
This is something for everybody.
I need your help.
Bella needs your help.
My daughter, bella.
She has a TikTok account.
She has a TikTok account andshe's trying to make it grow.
So she's made it public and shehas done a couple of videos now
of her doing cover tunes ofsongs with sign language.

(01:18:19):
And she did another oneyesterday.
I think it was of a song fromHamilton, the play the really
fast one, yes, and she's doingsign language to it and it took
off like a mofo.
I mean, I looked at it thismorning.
I was super impressed that shehad 12,000 views on it and a few

(01:18:43):
thousand likes or whatever.

Wow, that's pretty talented, holy cow on the
way home it was up over 40something thousand views, and
you know it was like 7 000 likesand shares well, first of all
people love that song and then Ican imagine from other of her
tiktok videos she probably has alittle attitude, you know,
while she, while she's doing itRight, and so then that makes it

(01:19:06):
entertaining to watch.
And then just to realize, liketo do that and I mean it's kind
of like singing along anddancing, almost kind of in a way
.
I mean it's a skill set, right.

On TikTok.
Apparently she was looking fora thousand followers so she can
join their TikTok partnerprogram, or whatever they call
it Right yep, and she was a fewhundred people shy of that and
she gained it overnight.
From all of these views, shegained that overnight.

Yeah, yeah, that's amazing.

And she talks about FND, which is the disorder that
she was diagnosed withfunctional neurologic disorder,
that she was diagnosed withfunctional neurologic disorder.
She talks about that and thenshe talks about fashion and her
outfits and all that girly stuff.
Yep, nonetheless, very proud ofher.
She did a great job um,memories with the beats.

I have a new episode coming out, but I'm not
able to do as many of the reviewones where we go watch live
music, because my cohost went upto Virginia to take care of
some things.
That's where she used to live.
Her dad still lives up there.
She's seen him and she ended upwith pancreatitis, had her have
her pancreas removed or I don't.

(01:20:20):
I don't really know what you dofor that anyway.

Did she have it removed already?
That's like an emergency thing.
She probably did, anyway.
Did you have it removed already?
That's like an emergency thing.

She probably did yeah on Monday.

I was going to ask her to save it for me.

Why do you want to?

I want to see what it looks like when I had my
gallbladder removed.
I asked the doctor to save thegallstones for me, and he did.
He put them in a jar and theylook like milk doves.

Oh yeah, they say those all the time, yeah.

They look like milk doves, same size.
I mean, sorry, I'm a littlestrange, I guess I just wanted
to see what they looked like.

Yeah, that was a little strange.

I did not ask for mine, thanks.

My wife's like why do we have this?
I just wanted to see what theywere.
Now I can't find them, so guesswhat probably happened to those
things.

Lucy.

Lucy, they weren't milk duds.

It's your April fool's prank next year.
Okay, so I am disappointed, butthat is what's happening right
now, with women making memoriesto beat, so we'll hopefully get
to pick that back up when she'sfeeling much better.
I have tried to find a coupleof like villains and it's kind
of fallen short.
Well, I took a trip up to RhodeIsland to assist one of my

(01:21:38):
clients.
That was very fun, although Iwas kind of bummed.
I didn't really get to seeanything.
You know like I got in atmidnight and then Saturday was
all day at the convention and Ihad to call my dear friend Jay
to say can you tell me somethingabout this piece of equipment?
And you were very helpful.
Thank you very much, jay.
To the rescue, yes, even fromIndiana.

I wish I could have been there, because I was
supposed to be in Boston thatweekend.
I could have taken you out.
We could have had some coolfood.
Boston, mark I always sayBoston the thing I miss the most
is the food.

Yep, absolutely.
Yeah, yes, so that was fun.
And then tomorrow one of myclients is launching their
podcast, so that's very exciting.
It's called Trust your InnerSense and her daughter has
Williams syndrome.
It's kind of like Down syndrome.
In the second episode herdaughter explains what it is,

(01:22:32):
but she says it very fast andI'm not familiar enough yet with
the syndrome to really speak toit so much.
But it was a great interview.
The episode number two it was agreat interview.
The episode number two.
And the lady herself.
She has these organic beautyproducts and they have
affirmations in the back of thebottle and in the beginning I
was like you know, oh, okay, Idon't know, it's a little, you

(01:22:54):
know woo-woo or you knowwhatever.
But sure enough, every day whenI'm shampooing up I read them.
So they are effective and I'mexcited to you, to.
You know, like each client, younever know what they're going
to bring to the table.
But after editing the firstcouple of episodes, I think it's
going to be a solid podcast andI'm excited for the content
coming up.
So that's what I got going on,yeah we'll have to check that

(01:23:18):
out.

Mark you get anything going on.

I'm looking forward to memorial day weekend,
when us and a bunch of friendsusually get together and, you
know, just hang out for theentire weekend and have a grand
old time.

Awesome.
Those are some of the bestweekends.

Yeah, do you guys camp.

No, we usually just go take over like a VRBO or
something like that.
Oh yeah, drink by the pool andyou know, just have a lot of
laughs.

Boom Boom, all right , folks, well we a lot of laughs
.
And boom boom, all right, folks.
Well, we have done it.
We have reached the top of thehour.

We have reached the top of our two oh, you're
trying to sign language likeyour daughter no, I'm definitely
not trying to?

no, I'm just trying to count on my hand, which is
still proving to be challenging.
I don't know how she does allthe extra stuff I can't even
count to one and two.

We've reached the top of the hour, the second
hour, which means we've reachedthe end of the show the second
time.

If you've enjoyed the show, please tell a friend
If you have not Miss Tiffany.

Tell two.

You can reach out to both of us, even Mark Hell.
Mark will join in too.
You can reach out to all threeof us over at jayfranze.
com.
We will be happy to keep theconversation going and also join
us on the socials.
We'd love to talk to you, missTiffany my friend, any final
words for us tonight?

Yes, remember, the next big hit might just be a
chord away.

That's beautiful, mark.
We'd like to thank you forjoining us away.
That's beautiful, mark.
I'd like to thank you forjoining us tonight.
It's been a pleasure, yeah.

Thanks for having me.
It was fun to crash and I feltlike I got to hang out with you
for the first time in a long,long time.
Great to talk with you too, sothanks for having me on here.

Yeah, awesome.

All right folks On that note have a good night.
Thanks, all right folks On thatnote.

have a good night.
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