Nashville Stars Get Canceled, Artists More People Should Know, and Country Music News

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Before we get started, let metell you about the question of
the day.

The question of the day.

Jay Franze (01:04):
The question of the day.
Who is an artist Singer bandwho is an artist that more
people should know about?

Tony Scott (01:13):
Who is?

Jay Franze (01:13):
an artist that more people should know about.
Let's go ahead and save thatfor a little later in the show,
and if you would like to haveyour responses right off here in
the show, go ahead and putthose in the comment section,
and we will do that for you,because we're just good like
that.
All right, ms Tiffany?
I would like to start it offwith an article that I saw that

(01:34):
I thought was humorous, or thatcould potentially be humorous.
Okay, true to form, I did notread it, so Lord knows what
we're getting ourselves into butI like to be as surprised as
you when we do these things.
So the article I found sayseight canceled country
celebrities and what they did toearn it.

(01:54):
I can't wait.
Sounds fun, because I don'tbelieve you can really cancel
anybody, but let's go ahead andfind out what these eight did.

Cancel culture.

Jay Franze (02:05):
To get canceled.
Let's see, we're starting offstrong.
Who do you think gets canceledfirst?
Nope, you're wrong.
Morgan Wallen.

I was going to say him Dang it, because I don't
feel like he really gotcanceled.
No, Uh-uh.
No so.

Jay Franze (02:30):
I didn't know this happened, but so be it.
He was canceled in 2021.

Okay.

Jay Franze (02:36):
For saying the N-word and being caught on his
neighbor's ring doorbell.

Oh no, you can't do that.
I get it yeah.

Jay Franze (02:56):
All right, do we know who Jimmy Allen is?

The name does actually sound familiar.
Maybe he doesn't sound familiarbecause he got canceled.

Jay Franze (03:05):
He got canceled and we don't know who he is.
Jimmy Allen's former managerclaimed he sexually and verbally
abused her.

She was a me too.

Jay Franze (03:15):
I don't know who he is.
The name sounds vaguelyfamiliar, but I don't know who
it is.
He looks kind of like Prince.
I don't know I will give you ahint on the next one okay okay,
he is part of a dynasty.
That would be a duck dynasty ohphil robertson oh, oh.

(03:42):
Well, you know he was cancelledin 2013 for telling GQ that
homosexual behavior was sinfulthat would be, I mean on par
with a Christian stance, Isuppose, but really the next one

(04:04):
.
We've discussed here severaltimes in the past the Chicks,
dixie Chicks, the Dixie Chicks.

Well, that was my first guess.

Jay Franze (04:14):
The Chicks, the Dixie Chicks, when lead singer
Natalie made comments aboutPresident Bush.
Made comments about PresidentBush.
That was so bad at the timethat when you would drive by
Sony Records, there would be astack of their CDs on the
sidewalk from people justdriving by and throwing them at
the record label.

That's crazy.

Jay Franze (04:37):
Not neatly stacked.

Yeah, haphazardly thrown in their direction,
discarded with disdain.

Jay Franze (04:45):
I say that just to imagine how many there would
have to be to make a pile thatsize.
Jerry Lee Lewis.

Oh, what did this cat get in trouble for?

Jay Franze (04:59):
Oh dear God.
I mean, if it's not marryinghis 13-year-old cousin, I don't
know what it would be.
Let's see, he was nevercanceled in country music.
In fact the opposite is true.
So why is he on the list?

Right, they got desperate.

Jay Franze (05:15):
Oh, he was canceled in rock and roll.

Oh, mm-hmm yeah.

Jay Franze (05:21):
For marrying his 13-year-old cousin.
The country community had noproblem with it.
The rock community said whoa,what are you doing?

The rock community drew a line in the
sand Country was like I mean,whatever, I get it.

Jay Franze (05:37):
Rock says 13-year-old.
Okay, maybe, but your cousin.

No.

Jay Franze (05:43):
No, I don't know how he got away with it.
Me neither.
It's crazy.
I worked on one of his projectsand it was a live recording,
and during that live recordinghe insisted the whole night he
wasn't drinking, and towards theend of the night he goes okay,
fine, I'm drinking.
He was funny all right, thisone.

(06:03):
It's listed under country.
Don't know how, but let's gofor it.
Dog the Bounty Hunter.

Oh, what would he be canceled for?

Jay Franze (06:16):
Similar to Morgan Wallen.
He got caught using the N-word.

Okay Well, that's kind of frowned upon.
He called his son's girlfriendthe N-word.
Okay well, that's kind offrowned upon.

Jay Franze (06:25):
He called his son's girlfriend the N-word.

Oh, my goodness.

Jay Franze (06:31):
Okay, I did not know .
This person got canceled, marenMorris.

What'd she get canceled for?

Jay Franze (06:41):
It says did Maren Morris get canceled or did she
just leave?
The results are probably thesame.
Ever since she took on JasonAldean, she's been missing from
the country music conversations.

Oh brother, what'd she say.

Jay Franze (06:59):
Next one.
Again, I don't know how thisfalls under country, but this is
the next one and the last one.

Okay.

Jay Franze (07:07):
Miss Paula Deen, what the short version is.
That in 2013, she was part of alawsuit brought on by her
former restaurant manager, whoalleged racial discrimination
and sexual harassment.

Interesting Little Paula Deen.

Tony Scott (07:28):
All right.

Jay Franze (07:30):
I don't know if that was as fun as I expected it to
be, but you know it's stillinteresting.
I'm not here doing cartwheelsor anything.

I was.

Jay Franze (07:39):
I'm not big on canceling I don't feel like you
can cancel people, but Iunderstand it, I get it All
right.
Canceling songs canceling Idon't feel like you can cancel
people, but I understand it, Iget it All right.

Canceling songs, canceling books, stop canceling,
just let people have theirideations.

Jay Franze (07:51):
Just makes it more popular, yep.
All right, let's move on to thenews.

Well, I know one of our crew members, Amy, is
going to be very excited aboutthis first story we're going to
share.
So Lainey Wilson, Vince Gill,did a tribute performance of Go
Rest High on that Mountain byVince Gill, Of course.
She did To honor televisioncreatives who have passed this

(08:22):
year.
It was a rare country moment atthe Emmys, pausing the show,
bringing somber, heartfeltenergy to the broadcast.

Jay Franze (08:30):
Yeah, they made people cry.

Music can do that .
Yeah, evokes a little bit ofemotion.
Yeah, that's nice.

Jay Franze (08:40):
Lainey Wilson.
She used to be an impersonator.
Hannah Montana impersonator.

Oh for funny.
She should do some bits duringher shows, yeah it would be
funny.
It would be funny.
Okay, the next thing I want toshare with you is of the 500
most played country radio tracksso far in 2025, tracks so far

(09:12):
in 2025, 38 of the top 40 songswere not released in 2025.
I think that is so interestingand many reoccurrent or gold
classics topping the spin charts.
Even the newer hits from MorganWallen make the list, but only
in small numbers.
Radio is sticking with what'salready been proven.

Jay Franze (09:25):
It's been a big conversation over the past week
or two and, matter of fact, zachTopp was just being interviewed
and he was talking about how,when he went for his record deal
, that none of the major recordlabels would sign him, and they
all said that there's nothing wecan do with your music.
What they want is somebody whosounds like everything else on
the radio, because it's proven.

(09:45):
And financially, from a businesspoint of view, that makes sense
.
But once somebody jumps out ofthat and does something and it
becomes successful, then theyall jump on that.
So, I remember when it wasFaith Hill and Shania Twain and
that was the big thing everybodyhad to have a a hit woman
artist on the label where it wasmostly men on the labels, and

(10:09):
then a woman broke free and thenall of a sudden, you had
another one and then another one.
So now I'm wondering are wegoing to get more throwback
artists?
so it'd be interesting to see ifwhat he got turned down for
will now become a trend.

It will be interesting.
I think you're right.

Jay Franze (10:28):
Well, Zach Topp almost didn't get a deal at all
because of it.
And somebody, a moreindependent label, had to take a
risk and it paid off and theywere talking about on the
interview.
They were saying wonder whatthose labels are thinking now
that they all passed on you andhe said well, it's the same
thing that when garth brooks wasout.
So when garth brooks was out,he did the same thing.

(10:49):
He went to every label.
He was a demo singer innashville.
He was singing demos on musicgrow all day long and everybody
wanted him because they lovedthe sound of his voice.
But nobody would take the riskon giving him a record deal and
he actually moved home.
He moved home and gave up.
And someone convinced him tocome back and give it a second
try.
And when they did, he becamesuccessful.

You may have heard of some of his music.
I think I can remember a tuneor two, at least one, right,
yeah, okay, well, jake Owenactually has a new album, dreams
to dream, and that is comingout november 7th and it strips
back his trend chasing and leansinto old school country sound

(11:36):
co-produced with shooterjennings and I don't know.
I was just intrigued by thename shooter jennings, and so I
was looking up some interestingfacts about him.
I'm not really sure.
Sometimes these things leaddown rabbit trails.
And so he was actually born inNashville to Mr Whalen and his
wife in 79, which that's theyear I was born.

(11:57):
So it makes sense that he's agood dude.
But it was kind of cute.
There's two stories on how hegot his nickname shooter.
So his mother cited that herhusband, waylon jennings love of
western culture and country artfor inspiring the gun derived
moniker shooter.
But his father came this is socute.

(12:19):
His father said he came up withthe name when, moments after
the newborn emerged from hismother's womb shooter, the boy
sprayed a nurse before anyonecould put their finger on his
first diaper.
I love my mom says jenning, butI like my dad's version better
and I believe it's true hedidn't make that stuff up.
It made me laugh because webrought Preston home and we got

(12:44):
home and Preston was on thechanging table and my husband
was, I don't know, changing likethe fourth diaper or something,
and the phone rang.
So I started talking to whoeverit was and all of a sudden he's
like Tiff, tiff, tiff.
Preston is just peeing rightinto his own eye.
Nice.

Jay Franze (13:03):
That's lovely.

But we did not nickname him Shooter.

Jay Franze (13:07):
I have girls.

It's a whole different challenge.
Lots of nooks and crannies.

Jay Franze (13:14):
Did you know that Jake Owen was a golfer?
He was actually a competitivegolfer before getting into music
.

No.

Jay Franze (13:22):
Yeah, he was a golfer and got injured
wakeboarding and was unable tobe a professional golfer anymore
, so he took up songwriting.
Oh, my goodness All thesepeople who are professional
athletes, who get injured andthen say, well, I guess I'll
just be a songwriter.
I guess.

Yeah, just give it a whirl.
Yeah, we'll see where it goes.

Jay Franze (13:40):
My favorite was Average Joe, which was a folky
rock singer back in the 90s andearly 2000s.
But he was amazing.
But he was a football playerfor the University of Central
Florida and got injured and hecouldn't leave his apartment.
So he picked up his roommate'sguitar, taught himself how to

(14:01):
play, started writing songs andbecame one of the most notable
songwriters in that genre acrossthe country.
Quickly was on every radio showsinging songs.
He was singing, you know, invenues all around central
florida, I mean he was a bigdeal.
He was in the movie saving sarahmarshall playing his music in a

(14:23):
bar scene.

Jeepers.

Jay Franze (14:29):
I wish I would just accidentally step into a pot of
luck.
I'm telling you, I don't knowwhat it is about athletes,
Something about the hand-eyecoordination maybe I don't know.

Okay, well, the next story is that the Field and
Stream Music Fest hasofficially been canceled again
for the second year in a row,despite being slated for future
major stars like Miranda Lambert, red Green, eric Church and
more.
Organizers say circumstancesbeyond their control forced the
decision, and refunds fortickets and camping etc.
Are being processed now.

(15:02):
How much money do you think isbeing refunded?

Jay Franze (15:06):
A lot, I didn't realize it was canceled last
year.
I like Field and Stream.
I think that would have beenpretty cool, but no, I did not
realize it was canceled lastyear.
I would like some more insight.
Please Somebody come on hereand tell us what's really going
on.

Yeah, yeah, that's what I think too.
What was beyond your control?
If you have those names linedup, I don't know Someone didn't
dot an I or cross a T.

Jay Franze (15:35):
Somebody had their Cheerios beaten.

Someone got fired , there you go.

Jay Franze (15:43):
Okay, I just realized you haven't been fired
yet tonight.

The button's cold , well, we don't need to use it.
Um, we're going to talk abouthardy, also to not be confused
with john party.
So hardy is his own entity andhe just dropped a video for
bottom land.
The song was actually prettygood.
It sets up a haunting toneahead of his upcoming album

(16:07):
Country, country, countryCountry what an original name
Sleated for September 26, so nottoo long from now.
The clip and the track diveinto darker ground, showing
Hardy's not afraid to shake upexpectations in country rock.
You know the song if I dieyoung, bury me in satin.
Okay, he's in a casket and he'sgot his camel on and it shows

(16:31):
his feet at first, but then he'sjust singing from the casket.
So I guess this is the darkerside that they're talking about,
the haunting darker side.
It wasn't very haunting in myopinion.
There was some fake steamcoming off the pond, but you
haunting?

Jay Franze (16:47):
in my opinion there was some fake steam coming off
the pond, but I mentioned thathe was into rock before country
and he's got that duality on hisalbum.
I like that stuff.
But before that he was evenwriting songs for morgan wallen.

He wrote songs for blake shelton, so I mean,
it's not like he doesn't havetalent yeah, I, I guess Jeepers,
how cool is that to go frommaybe like working on your
confidence, like if you have theskill set to write songs and
then they go to these majorartists, then you're like, wait

(17:19):
a minute, I know I've mentionedJustin Wilson to you and I was
looking up a singer songwriterfestival a different artist and
he's going to be there.
Singer songwriter festival adifferent artist and he's going
to be there and this guy's voiceis like so good that it kills
me that he's not like arecording artist maybe that
should be part of our questionof the day well, it's one of my
answers, so it's what got methinking about that.
But, yes, it.

(17:40):
It does beg the question whysome people choose to just say
singer-songwriters, and it couldbe, you know, lack of talent or
lack of desire, but I would notmind picking some people's
minds or brains who have juststayed in that lane.
Well, next is going to be MrMcCoy Moore.

(18:02):
Do you know this gentleman?

Jay Franze (18:08):
Barely Because I I mean he's new, he's like what 20
?

nothing yeah, he's 24 and it says that he, um,
is like taken off.
So everybody, hold on to yourshorts.
Mccoy moore he's going to bethe name I'm thinking that we're
all going to hear because, um,he actually just got signed to
Sony Music Nashville.
But I thought it wasinteresting.
In 2018, when he was just 16years old, he actually met Luke

(18:31):
Combs and somehow they had aconversation and Luke Combs gave
him some advice you know, justbe true to yourself, sing
authentically, have fun, thatkind of stuff.
And then, when he was 19, hemoved to Nashville.
So I guess I don't know whatthe average age is, but that
seems young to move to a town sobig.

Jay Franze (18:50):
I've noticed the artists are moving younger and
younger to Nashville.
We had Josie Sal on the show.
She was 13 when she was on theshow.
She's 14 now and she's playingshows everywhere.
I mean, that girl is insaneright now and writing amazing
songs.

Can you imagine that much pressure at that age?

Jay Franze (19:11):
And she looks like she's having fun.
Doesn't look like any pressurein the world to her, but I'm
sure there's a lot of stuffgoing on behind the scenes.

Well, also, ignorance is bliss.
So you know, at that age maybeyou don't realize the gravity of
what you're actually doing.
You just think like, oh, thisis cool.

Jay Franze (19:26):
Well, your McCoy there probably got his boost of
confidence because he blew up onTikTok before becoming a
recording artist.

Oh, okay, okay.
Well, later this year he'sactually hitting the road with
Hardy Coe Wetzel and StephenWilson Jr on the Jim Bob World
Tour.

Jay Franze (19:43):
Wow, Well, that builds some confidence right
there, for sure.

Mm-hmm yeah.

Jay Franze (19:49):
Those will be some great mentors.

Yeah right, oh my gosh being in great company.
They say you are the sum of thefive people you hang out with
the most, so three of them.

Jay Franze (19:59):
Are hit.
Country Party, there you go.

Yeah, it'd probably be pretty good.
He's part of the country nextcrop, so early promise, a clear
vision, and listeners arebeginning to take notice.

Jay Franze (20:15):
So keep your eye on Mr Moore there you go.

Okay, now this next one.
I have a question for you.
Have you heard of this countrymusic and club music, or country
club music?

Jay Franze (20:26):
There's what I think you're referring to as the
mixture of genres, where you'remixing country with a club genre
Seems to be a very popularthing going on right now where
there's artists in the countryworld who are using drum beats
and stuff instead of realdrummers yeah, which drives me
insane.
I'm not a fan.
There's a few people who do itand I like them as artists and I

(20:48):
like their music.
Like Chase Matthew, I'm not afan.
There's a few people who do itand I like them as artists and I
like their music.
Like Chase Matthew.
I like Chase Matthew a lot.
He's a if you haven't heard ofhim, he's an up and coming
country artist.
Right now I just got off theroad he's getting ready to go on
a big tour.
He's going to be here thismonth, I think.

Oh cool.

Jay Franze (21:01):
So he's doing great and he's an amazing artist, but
his song that's on the radioright now is using a drum beat
versus a real live drummer.

Well, I thought it was interesting because
Hannah is a freshman this yearand at school they had spirit
days when the week leading up tothis big rival game that we had
going on and she was like Mom,should I dress as country or
club?
She was like mom, should Idress as country or club?

(21:35):
And I was like, uh, a littlebit of tear in the headlight and
I said I think she wasn't evenmean.
And I said, well, I think it'slike traditional country versus
country, that kind of is mixed.
Well, what I said to her wasthat's mixed with ns, ns, ns, ns
, lovely.
And she was like, okay, okay, Isaid like I think shibuzi would
be like club country, you know.

(21:56):
So I was trying to explain itto her but it was a new idea for
me.
I guess I didn't know theseterms, so I thought maybe that
the crew members wouldn't knowthem.

Jay Franze (22:08):
There's a lot of controversy going on about that
right now is does that belong incountry music.
I like when people borrow thingsfrom other genres For a while
it was very popular to put adrum loop into the country songs
, but it was a drummer playingthe drum loop and then they
would play their part over thatdrum loop that they just played.
So I like that.

(22:30):
It was kind of cool.
It gave a different vibe tostuff and they were borrowing
the idea from pop music, butthey were playing it and they
were changing it.
So now if you're just doing thesame exact thing by taking a
drum machine or a drum beat thatsomebody else is using or
somebody else has created andyou're just building your song
around that, or if you have mego yeah.

(22:52):
That's going to be our nextsample.
By the way, I've got a samplethat you did the other day.
That was off the wall.

Oh brother, Wait for it.
You guys, Jay's working on anew tune.

Jay Franze (23:06):
I'm going to start loading up some new buttons.

Oh gosh you guys jay's working on a new tune.
Start loading up some newbuttons, oh gosh.
Well, the next thing I'm goingto tell you about is healing
apalachia lecha whatever isactually.
Um, they bring awareness to theopioid epidemic um hate mail
tiffany at jay franzy.
Why?

(23:28):
Why am I getting hate mail forthat you?

Jay Franze (23:30):
said whatever to Appalachia.

Appalachia.

Jay Franze (23:34):
Is it Appalachia?

or Appalachia.

Jay Franze (23:37):
I always say Appalachia, but I don't know.

Okay, appalachia, okay, well, and they?

Jay Franze (23:42):
I'm a Yankee living in the South, I can't be
expected to pronounce everythingcorrectly.

At least I have respect for it.
Okay, well, whatever, anyway,so I'm kidding, it's going to be
September, oh, it's thisweekend and it is in Ashland
Kentucky, ashland, kentucky, andthey have announced Chris
Stapleton and Childers Childers,childers, childers, thank you
Will be there.
It's going to be a good event.
Expect roots, powerful voicesand a community vibe that honors

(24:12):
the Appalachian music richtradition.

Jay Franze (24:17):
It's Kentucky I would like to go.
It's a little bit of a hikefrom my area.

I wondered how far it is from you.

Jay Franze (24:24):
It's probably three to four hours.

Oh yeah.

Jay Franze (24:29):
But I still might do it something.

See if the wife will let you See if you can get
permission.

Jay Franze (24:36):
I don't know if I give permission so I get it Okay
.

Tony Scott (24:43):
new album.

Obviously the same thing.
Well, there's good news thatTrisha yearwood and garth brooks
they are ready, getting readyfor christmas with a duet album
what you know, that guy garthbrooks that guy, garth brooks,
and some guy well, I almost saidbrooks, garth.
I'm not really sure why, but mybrain had it flipped so I

(25:07):
struggled for a minute.
But true country traditionmeets seasonal spirit.
Trisha yearwood's christmastime will feature favorites plus
a duet with her longtimepartner, garth brooks.
She says these songs arepersonal favorites of hers,
bringing warmth as the holidaysapproach.
We'll see what she sings.

Jay Franze (25:27):
Do you know that there's a connection, a
similarity, between her andFaith Hill?
Tell me more when they bothmoved to town, to Nashville, to
try to become successful.
Their first gig they both datedGarth Brooks.
They both married Garth Brooks.
No, they both became areceptionist at a record label.
Oh, interesting, smart, goodmove Become a receptionist at a

(25:49):
record label.

Oh, interesting, smart, good move.

Jay Franze (25:52):
Become a receptionist at a record label.
Get to know the people insideand guess what?
You get a record deal Surprise.
Mm-hmm Shock, I'm going to gobecome a receptionist at a
record label.

That's a great idea.

Jay Franze (26:04):
It's not going to work the same I'll be the
director of first impressions.

Well, this next guy's name, Jackson Dean.
I just freaking love his name.
I just think like, oh, I just Ithink because of James Dean, so
the Dean part.
But I just love Jackson Dean, Ijust love his name.
He just sounds like a rebel.
Yeah, yeah, it sounds tough.
Jackson dean, I just love hisname.
He just sounds like a rebel.
Yeah, yeah, it sounds tough.
Okay, well, he is um openlyapplauding his growing fan base,
calling them rabid for theirpassion and dedication for an

(26:37):
up-and-coming artist.
Nothing hits like fans who ridehard for you.

Jay Franze (26:42):
It fuels both his performance and his momentum
nothing hits like having a yourfirst song be put into
Yellowstone either.

Yeah, right, I mean, oh, my gosh doesn't hurt.

Jay Franze (26:55):
All right Question of the day who is an artist more
people should know about.
Who is an artist more peopleshould know about.
We're going to start with Sarahwith an H, because she came
back.
All right, sarah with an H saysshe came back.

All right, sarah with an H says Chapel Heart.

Jay Franze (27:12):
Okay, this is going to cause a lot of research.

I'm going to write them all down because I
want to know about new artists.

Jay Franze (27:21):
Amanda, you don't count, amanda, says Lainey
Wilson.

No, come on, People know about her.

Jay Franze (27:28):
Chris, you're out too.
He's just Tyler Childers, chrisout.
Sorry, let me see if I canknock anybody else out.
Real quick, make our liveseasier.

Tony Scott (27:37):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (27:37):
Heather out Ashley McBride.
Nope, Nope, Ooh, Josh, you getcredit.
Josh gets credit because hechose Brian Frazier.

Okay, I'm writing it down.

Jay Franze (27:49):
Brian Frazier was a previous guest of the show.

Oh, not one that I got to speak to.

Jay Franze (27:57):
Not one that you got to speak to.
He's a very nice guy.
I'm sure he'd be willing tocome back on the show again here
to talk about some of his newmusic.
It's been a little while sincehe's been here, but he is a very
nice guy.
He's got an influence of 90srock songs.
So his country music has thatsame kind of vibe to it.

Love it.
That's a good one.

Jay Franze (28:20):
Kelly, you're out.
She says jelly roll.
Come on, jessica.
I'm going to go with Jessicabecause you did not know this
artist, chase Matthew.

Oh yeah, I'm excited about that.

Jay Franze (28:36):
Kathy, come on, you're out, kathy's saying
Taylor Swift and Bruno.

Mars Mom.

Jay Franze (28:42):
Did I not say this correctly?
Who are artists that morepeople should know?

It's not like if they've been on the radio, more
people should know about them.
It's a lot of people know aboutthem because they were already
on the radio, but who do we wantto put the spotlight?

Jay Franze (28:59):
on.
We should know more about them,if we know any more about
Taylor Swift.
I don't know, hannah.
Hannah, I'm going to give youcredit because you also chose an
artist that was previously onthe show.
This is Hannah, probably yourdaughter but it's not, she has
an H.
Sorry, hannah, I do it everyweek.
Hannah says Sherry Rowe.

(29:20):
Not only is she a previousguest on the show, but she's
coming back on the show becauseshe has a new single out.

Yeah, I get to meet her.

Jay Franze (29:31):
I'm excited.
Ethan you're out, megan you'reout.
Oh, here's another vote forChapel.

Okay, I'm going to put mine in there.
Morgan Wallen.

Jay Franze (29:45):
Okay.
Tony says Chapel Heart, Sophiasays Chapel Heart, so that's
three votes right now.
Says Chapel Heart, sophia saysChapel Heart, so that's three
votes right now for Chapel Heart.

If anybody has a connection, we'll interview them
.

Jay Franze (29:56):
She's listening right now.
Call her Laura.
You're out, However, previousguests of the show, so I'm going
to read it anyway.
Laura says William Lee Goldenand Danny Stefanetti.

Mom Ella Langley.
It's people we don't know,y'all.

Jay Franze (30:21):
I would say Danny.
Stefanetti, for sure.
William Lee Golden, you know,lead singer of the Oak Ridge
Boys.
We may have heard of him,golden, you know, lead singer of
the Oak Ridge Boys.
We may have heard of him, andalso William Lee Golden and the
Goldens family band.
But Danny Stefanetti, she's anup and comer that more people
should know about.
Obviously, william Lee Goldenknows about her.

Yeah, he's in the know.

Jay Franze (30:43):
Chris, here's one.
I like it.
Chris says Presley Tennant.

Oh.
We-huh, we're just going tolist previous guests.

Jay Franze (30:51):
There's a lot of previous guests on the show, but
a lot of these people.

That's good.

Jay Franze (30:56):
Yeah, they're known.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (31:00):
Like the next three.
Four are previous guests on theshow.

Tony Scott (31:05):
Oh.

Jay Franze (31:07):
Monica says Cleve Francis.

Cleve, cleve.

Jay Franze (31:12):
Cleve.
Now I'm only reading that one.
First of all, it's a 90'scountry artist, but I just
finished a project for him.

Oh.

Jay Franze (31:24):
I mean, I literally just finished it.
Jeff says Josie Sell.

Oh.

Jay Franze (31:33):
Your mother says Tucker Whitmore.

Mom, stop, stop, stop.
You're just picking anybody offthe top charts.
Let me just go look at thecharts quick.

Jay Franze (31:51):
Here's another one for Chapel Heart.
A lot of people are likingChapel Heart.
Megan says Chapel Heart.
James says Randall King.

Randall King.

Jay Franze (32:03):
Sarah, you're out.
She says Ashley Cook.

She was in our headlines last week.

Jay Franze (32:14):
Chris, you're out.
He says William Lee, Golden andthe Goldens.
I guess, to be fair, to giveChris some credit, everybody
knows William Lee and the OakRidge Boys.
It's less known.
So eh, that's fair then.

Fair enough, it's a stretch but we can get there,
yeah.

Jay Franze (32:28):
So yeah, that's fair , then Fair enough.

It's a stretch, but we can get there.

Jay Franze (32:31):
Yeah, yep, tyler, you're gone.

Laney Wilson for sure.

Jay Franze (32:35):
Yeah, I wonder what she sings.

I wonder if she's any good I never heard of her
before.

Jay Franze (32:45):
Oh, no, no, no.
Olivia says Caitlin Smith.
Ooh, let's see.
Isaac says Kyle Fields.
Kyle Fields, previous guest ofthe show.
Ah he is definitely a talenteddude.
He's the one who played withPost Malone.

Oh yeah cool.

Jay Franze (33:07):
okay, post Malone came into the bar.
Yeah, I think it was.
Winnersone came into the baryeah.
I think it was Winners inNashville, the bar Winners.
There's Winners and there'sLosers, and there's two bars
next to each other Winners andLosers, and he was playing at
Losers.

Naturally, that's where Post Malone went.

Jay Franze (33:23):
And showed up at Losers and stayed there and
watched him all night long.
Losers and stayed there andwatched them all night long.
So he was a great guy, so cool,all right.
Oh, okay, mackenzie leeprevious guest of the show, you
get the last name.
Red mackenzie lee says meMackenzie Lee.

Aww.

Jay Franze (33:52):
I will second that Definitely a talented woman.
Justin, sorry, I don't know whoyou are, but I'm going to read
your last name anyway Frederick,justin, frederick, 852 Main
Street.

I was going to say spell it out and give us the
address.

Jay Franze (34:13):
Justin Frederick, because he says me Justin
Frederick.
Justin Frederick music over atthe Gram.
If anybody wants to look him up, there you go, justin.
Hope you get some peeps.
Oh, here's one, we know MayaProject Music.

Oh yeah.

Jay Franze (34:37):
Now, she did not promote herself.
She's got to get credit forthat.
Previous guest on the show didnot promote herself.
She is promoting Porcupine Tree.

Okay, that's going to be worth something,
right there, ooh, brittany saysChad Bushnell Ooh, I was
thinking I put that whiskey towork.
Oh man, I heard that songWhiskey to Work.

Jay Franze (35:04):
I had that song on repeat for a solid week.
Chad Bushnell, previous guestof the show, very talented
individual.
I would highly recommend thatyou go check out Chad and that
song Whiskey to Work is anamazing song.
Mm-hmm, I love that song Kathy,come on, I think you're missing
.
Was it George Strait?

(35:25):
He's probably pretty good.

I wish more people knew about him, though.
Yeah.

Jay Franze (35:32):
Kathy, I'm just kidding.

Tony Scott (35:35):
Please don't hurt me .

Jay Franze (35:36):
Oops, it's going.
It started moving so fast Icouldn't see it.

Eddie says Cody Jinx oh.

Jay Franze (35:52):
Well, he's on the Indy charts, is he?
He still there?
I don't know if he still is,but still we didn't know who he
was just a week or two ago.

a couple weeks ago.
Yeah, amanda, I know amanda, wecalled her flushy I'm sure she
loves you telling everybody thatwe call her.

Jay Franze (36:10):
Flushie, because Bella, who's 15 now, when we met
Flushie she was working atWetzel's Pretzel and she would
give my sorry, kathy, kathy'stelling me easy.
But we met Flushie working atWetzel's Pretzels and my

(36:31):
daughter was like three at thetime and we'd get slushies from
her.

Tony Scott (36:36):
Oh, yeah, and she couldn't pronounce slushies, so
she kept asking for flushies, socan we go see Flushie?

Jay Franze (36:46):
Anyways Flushie, says Sam Barber.

That name actually sounds familiar to me.

Jay Franze (36:55):
Jason Hale.
Jason Hale, previous guest ofthe show.
That's why I'm using his lastname.
He says Ronnie Pittman.
He was also the bass player forKyle Fields.

Tony Scott (37:08):
Oh.

Jay Franze (37:09):
Jason Hale was the bass player for Kyle Fields.
Oh, jason Hill was the bassplayer for Kyle Fields.
Still is, from time to time,all right.
And then James, james, myfriend, I love you.
Thank you for being here everyweek.
Thank you for constantlytelling me you like this portion
of the show.
He says Leon Bridges.

Okay.

Jay Franze (37:31):
All right, we got any final people coming in here?
Oh, yep, we got Faith, saysGina Fritz, gina Fritz also a
previous guest of the show.
Okay, I'm going to go throughthis rapid fire.
We'll cherry pick.

Everybody hold on .

Jay Franze (37:46):
We're going to cherry pick just people who are
guests of the show at this point.

Okay.

Jay Franze (37:51):
Okay, so if you've put in a guest of the show,
you're going to get bonus creditright now.

Whoa, bonus points coming everybody's way.

Jay Franze (37:59):
Maddie says Mackenzie Phipps.
Gabe says Trey Calloway.

He's a show favorite.

Jay Franze (38:05):
He's been on the show several times now.
Katie says Sarah Ames.
Ooh, she sings a song calledHeart Thing.
It's a great song.

Sarah Ames Heart Thing.

Jay Franze (38:16):
She just had a baby, so she's been out of the scene
for the past few months.

I don't know how they get back into it, man.

Jay Franze (38:24):
That's my fear.

Whenever a friend of mine would have a baby, I
would always be like so I'll seeyou in a year.
You know, the baby just takesover your brain your life, your
house, your car.

Jay Franze (38:37):
That's what we were saying with Thomas.
Rhett Thomas Rhett See as soonas his wife has that baby.
We said she'd leave it Rightnow.
She takes it everywhere, soshe'll be leaving it.
Logan says Matt Oakley Anothergreat artist.
Luke says JD Reynolds.
Maya says High Mountain Breezes.
Elijah says Huckleberry RoadAll right, Awesome.

(39:00):
Miss Tiffany.

Okay.
Well, I'm very torn, but Ithink I am going to actually say
Stephen Quinn.
I will tell you guys aboutStephen Quinn when we get to
what I did this weekend, but heis starting to shake things up
in Nashville and I quite enjoyedhis voice.
Stephen Quinn is my officialpick.

Jay Franze (39:28):
All right, fair enough.
Jackson just chimed in.
Hey whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,whoa.
Don't leave off John MichaelFerrari.

Previous guest of the show, one of the more
popular episodes of this showtoo.
Oh, wow.

Jay Franze (39:46):
Thank you, Jackson Jackson, John Michael Ferrariari
last minute submission rightthe last moment.
Oh, how about cersei?

yes, I think that they should be on there for
sure cersei uh, longtime friends, longtime friends of the show.

Jay Franze (40:07):
They've been on the show.
I would like to have them backon the show for sure.
However, super, super talentedand they play probably 300 and
something shows a year.

I thought you were going to say 300 and
something.

Jay Franze (40:24):
instruments no they probably do.
I mean, they're very talentedpeople all at one time.

You should see it .
It's amazing.

Jay Franze (40:32):
No, there's only two of them, a husband wife.
He plays guitar and he playsbass with his feet.
She sings and plays drums andplays flutes and plays bass with
trigger pads.
And when I say with triggerpads I don't mean she hits it
and the trigger pad plays a bassline.
I mean she's got all the noteslaid out on the trigger pad and

(40:55):
plays them based on the note.
So I mean, they're a talentedband and they write commercial
songs, I mean, and she's justgot a great love to see the
brain activity, no, while'replaying.

It's too much for me to imagine their whole brain
has to be lit up.

Jay Franze (41:14):
All right, my friend .
Well, that's what we have forthe question of the day.
If you would like to submityour question of the day, please
head over to jfrenzycom slashquestion.
We are always willing to gowith yours over ours because,
let's face it, they're probablybetter anyway.

All right, you want to talk about the charts.
You want to see who's movingand shaking on the charts.

Jay Franze (41:35):
Yeah, that's the exact way I wanted to look at it
Moving and shaking.

Well, they're moving like up and down, you
know.

Jay Franze (41:42):
Whoa, whoa, you're always going to take it too far.

Yeah, that was me all right number 10, because we
start at 10 jay, we don't startat one.
We start at 10 every week.

Jay Franze (41:58):
You say that every week.
I start the beginning one.

Well, I'm very excited we have a new person in
the number 10 spot debuting, MrLuke Combs.
Back in the saddle.

Jay Franze (42:13):
Hold on, wait, wait, no, no, let's try.
You know I'm out of them.
I know there's a sound in therethat would be better, but let's
stop the thing here.

Stop, okay, okay.

Jay Franze (42:25):
This is the song I've been telling you about.
We keep talking about BackupPlan.

Thank you, Bailey .

Jay Franze (42:33):
This is the other one.

Oh, this is the one.

Jay Franze (42:37):
I keep telling you about.
I said it's going to be coming.
I said we'll make it into ourtop ten list.
We don't need to discuss ituntil it gets here.

Guess what?
Here it is, it's here.

Jay Franze (42:44):
We're discussing.
Okay, this is another one ofthose songs this is, you know,
I'm back in it, you know this isbaby once he stood up.

Okay.
So, luke, thank you.
Okay, I'm excited to check itout.
Like a little grit, a littleperseverance, a little tenacity.

Jay Franze (43:02):
Love it.

Yep, all right.
Well, in spot number nine,moving up from spot 10, is John
Party Friday Night.
Heartbreaker Did you say HardyParty.
I said party, which I haverecently learned is different
than Hardy.

Jay Franze (43:21):
Yeah, that's all right.
Yeah, Friday Night.

Heartbreaker Friday Night Heartbreaker.
I don't know that one either,so I'll have to check it out.

Jay Franze (43:30):
Oh mercy, You're falling behind.

I know, I know I got to be in my car more.
You spend a lot of time in yourcar.

Jay Franze (43:39):
I do not.
You spend a lot of time in mycar.

Yeah, okay.
In spot number eight from spotnumber nine, morgan Wallen, I
Got Better.
I love this song, kathy.
Do you know who?

Jay Franze (43:52):
Morgan Wallen is we should really know.

Okay, and our dual favorite, jordan Davis,
with Bar None, stayed at spotnumber seven.
Her and the Memory One, me andthe Bar comma none.
Jelly Roll with Heart of Stonedid the same thing.

(44:17):
He's in spot number six and hewas in spot number six last week
.

Jay Franze (44:21):
Come on, Jelly.

You could do better than that.
He was another one that shouldbe more known.
Known, yeah, I feel like if wecould get the word out that was
kelly kelly's.

Jay Franze (44:34):
I'm sorry, kelly, I looked it up just so we can.
Just so we can throw it on you.
Kelly says jelly roll should bemore known.
His song save me was reallygood should be more known.

His song Save Me was really good.
There you go.
Well, we've mentioned him acouple times in the show.

Jay Franze (44:54):
So hopefully, kelly, he's got a new song.
It's called Heart of Stone, sixmonths.
You can tell how good that oneis too Sorry.
Kelly please come back.
We're just kidding, you know.
We think of you as family.
That's why we pick on you.

Kelly, if I had the you're fired button, I'd
fire Jay for you.

Jay Franze (45:11):
I would fire myself for it.
Here we go, jay, you're fired,there you go.
Oh, it's funny, because we talkabout, you know, making fun of
people.
I sent some meme or something,some meme or video talking about
Bostonians.
I sent it to my wife like, look, if we didn't like you, we
wouldn't be making fun of you,we just wouldn't talk to you.

(45:35):
So, kelly, being a Bostonian, Ireally love you.
Glad you're here.
Thank you, jelly roll.

Tony Scott (45:41):
Hmm.

Jay Franze (45:41):
Some other people already know who he is.

Spot number five.
I was too excited to talk aboutScotty McCreery.

Jay Franze (45:50):
I know.

He is like, I mean, I brought this song up
like two months before it hitthese charts and now just Hang
in tight.
He's not going anywhere.
Just hang in on, no he's not,he's loving it.

Jay Franze (46:02):
He's in the same spot he was last week.

I know he's hanging on, I want to see some
progress.

Jay Franze (46:06):
Come on, Scotty.
Well, he did make progress.
I want you to make it to numberone.

Right, he's slowly climbing there, but it's
not going down.
He's hanging, he's hanging.
Okay, mr Thomas Rhett, thoughhe is finally starting to
decline.
He's got his fifth child On theway.

(46:34):
On the way, jay.
It's in there somewhere.
He went from spot number one tospot number four, so some other
songs beat him out.
Let's see who it was.

Tony Scott (46:47):
Guess who it was Jay Good old Russ.

Good old Russ Going from spot number four to
spot number three with Happenedto Me.
I am Dr Seuss, I am a poet anddo not know it.
Spot number two is Shaboosiewith Good News.

Jay Franze (47:11):
That is good news he isn't old either.

No, no, he's hanging tough at spot number two
, but you know who did move up,jay.

Jay Franze (47:21):
Hmm, who could that be?
Someone who doesn't need abackup plan?

Yes, yes, this guy does not need a backup plan.
He went from spot number threeto spot number one.
Bailey Zimmerman backup plan.
A round of applause for MrBailey.

Jay Franze (47:45):
Congratulations, Bailey.

Okay, well, let's go to the Indie Charts now.
Indie Charts.

Jay Franze (47:52):
Starting at number one.

No spot, number 10.
Okay Is Single of the Year byMaddie True.
Yes, great song.

Jay Franze (48:01):
And if anybody looks that up, maddie, true, yes,
great song.

And if anybody looks that up, Maddie True is
not spelled traditionallyM-A-D-D-Y-E.
Last name True T-R-E -W.
That sucks, Because she cannever call the doctor's office
and be like it's Maddie True.

Jay Franze (48:20):
She has to spell that out every single time I'm
wondering if it's her recordlabel, true blue music oh, look
at that, you are on to somethingthere.
You're so observant, jay she'snot just an artist.
She owns her own label.

Pretty cool.

Jay Franze (48:43):
You got to have talent to do both those things.
Those are two full-time jobsfor sure.

Yeah Well, something I learned in one of my
podcasts is that people inleadership can be more
successful because they have ateam of people to delegate all
the tasks to.

Jay Franze (49:01):
True statement yeah, she maybe is doing a lot of
delegating.

True statement yeah, she maybe is doing a lot
of delegating.

Jay Franze (49:05):
I need another team.

I have no team anymore, all right.
Well, spot number nine goes toCountry Boy by Randy Cobb, and
he was in spot 10, so he'sbumping up and we've got.
You Were there by ThompsonSquare, what number are they
Forget your rhyme?

Jay Franze (49:28):
What number?

are they?
Thank you.
I impressed myself, and then Iwas like they must have
impressed themselves.
Anyways, it's Jay's favoritenumber, number eight.

Jay Franze (49:40):
We have spot number ocho, thank you, oh, wait, wait,
wait, go ahead, tell me seven,Tell me seven.

Okay, okay, okay.
So spot number seven from spotnumber six, they're in seven
this week, baptized in it by theHaygoods, the.

Jay Franze (49:56):
Haygoods.

You just wanted to say it.
I just want to say it, that'sall, all right, you just wanted
to say it, that's all alright ifyou want to hear the song.
It's on the playlist oh snapjfrancycom countdown alright, if
you want to hear the songnumber six.
That was number five.
It is turn the night on bychris kizza kizia, I don't know

(50:22):
if that's right, it's just whatthe computer keeps telling us.

Jay Franze (50:24):
It is Turn the Night On by Chris Kizia, kizia, kizia
, that's what I said.
Kizia, I don't know if that'sright.
It's just what the computerkeeps telling us.

I thought I was going to get it right too, but I
messed up on the second I KiziaSpot.
Number five is I Don't Know howto Say Goodbye Bang Bang, boom
Boom.
We listened to this song lastweek after the episode, after we
were done recording, and Iliked it.
And, jay, you said it had avery dwight yokum sound to it,

(50:49):
and it does, and it is by dwightyokum and post malone has a
very dwight yokum sound to it.
It's by dwight yokum yeah, well,yes, well, we weren't sure you
were saying like it would.
Yeah, if you hear, it justsounds like it's from the day.
Yeah, from his day it reallydoes.

Jay Franze (51:09):
All right, kathy, you ready for me?

hanging out, hanging out in spot four another
week hide and go cheat by byEric Lee Bedingfield.
Is that?
Is it Natasha?
Is it Natasha's husband Nice?

Jay Franze (51:26):
I get it.

You see what I did there.

Jay Franze (51:30):
I do, I see that Go to the next one.
I want to say something aboutit.
Go quick.

Okay, okay, okay.
Spot number three, holdingSteady for Another Week is read
by Jet JuergensmeyerJuergensmeyer.

Jay Franze (51:42):
Juergensmeyer, I like saying it, juergensmeyer, I
know you do.

Yeah, it's fun Okay.

Jay Franze (51:48):
Spot number two Oop, oop, she loves my country.

She loves my country.
By Louis Bryce Louis LouisLouis Bryce Louis Louis.

Jay Franze (52:03):
Louis Bryce.

Louis, not Lee.

Jay Franze (52:06):
Is that Lee's brother?

I think so.
I mean same spelling, soprobably Okay, in spot number
one she finally made it Comingfrom.
Spot number two is Ashley Ryanwith my Crazy.

Jay Franze (52:33):
Louis Bryce is Lee Bryce's brother.

It is Mm-hmm.
Oh my gosh, I knew Lee.

Jay Franze (52:39):
Bryce has a brother.
I just didn't realize that itwas Lewis, but yes, Well, he's
on the Pump House Records.
There you go.
Lee can't help a brother out.

No, no, lee Bryce performed here last Saturday,
on the 13th.

Jay Franze (52:58):
He's a talented dude , Worked with him quite a while.
He is definitely he's atalented dude.
Worked with him quite a while.
He is definitely talented.
He's a similar story to GarthBrooks.
He came to town, he was asongwriter and he was singing
demos for everybody in town.
People loved his voice butnobody wanted to give him a
chance.
They finally gave him a chance.

(53:18):
Curb Records gave him a chanceand they said Look, we're going
to give you one chance to getout there and make this happen,
and it almost didn't.
All right, we have receivedsome mail.
You've got mail and I have beencriticized for not reading it on
the show.

Oh, so they're like.
I wrote you and you did not sayanything on the show.
Oh so they're like.
I wrote you and you did not sayanything on the show, Correct?

Jay Franze (53:46):
Because on the website it clearly says may be
read on the show it doesn't saywill be.

It says maybe they got their hubs up high.
Anyways, everyone wants theirone second of fame.

Jay Franze (53:58):
I'm going to go ahead and read some of these.
If you would like to have yourcomments not read on the show,
please feel free to go to thewebsite.
Fill out the form and I won'tread yours either.
Shadefrenzycom slash mailbag.
All right, derek.

(54:19):
Derek says could you bring morebehind the scenes stories about
touring life?
Those are always the most funto me.

Oh well, maybe Billy Joe could come on and once
the show gets rolling she couldtalk about a couple of those.

Jay Franze (54:35):
That is a very good point.
I personally don't have toomany touring stories.
I've spent the majority of mycareer inside the studio, not on
the road, but I have had anopportunity or two, three, four
maybe, to go on the road with afew artists.
So I do have some stories, butI will do my best with some of

(54:55):
those.
All right, vanessa, thank youfor writing in.
I appreciate you.
I'm going to go ahead and readyours now.
On the show live.
She says George Strait shouldhave won every CMA Entertainer
of the Year, not just a few.

Oh, just a clean sweep.

Jay Franze (55:18):
Just a clean sweep.
I don't know.
I've never seen him performlive.
I know he's one of the best,but I get the impression there's
not a lot of movement there.
I don't think he's like GarthBrooks.

I mean, I do know that he did a lot of hip
movement.

Jay Franze (55:34):
Whoa.
Why is it always going to goback to that with you?
Everything?
Sorry, vanessa, I know thewomen were engaged all right, we
said he's the most importantman in country music.
Our opinion for sure.
Not the articles, but ouropinion, him and garth brooks
yeah, if we're gonna say bestentertainer.

(55:55):
I would probably go with garthbrooks.
I mean that man was swingingfrom cables, oh yeah, no, I
would agree with yes, I meanhe's definitely got the most
number one hits and he's just abeast.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (56:08):
Thank you, bob Bullock, engineering all those
records that I did not get toparticipate in Hunter.
I'm sorry.
Sorry, another comment come inand distract me.
I'm like squirrel.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (56:21):
Hunter says the sound quality of your show is
killer.
You can tell there's a probehind the production.
Aw Thank you Give all thecredit to Tiffany.

No.

Jay Franze (56:35):
Jake, why don't they release more live albums
anymore?
Some of the best music is rawperformances.

That's true.

Jay Franze (56:45):
Yep.

Somehow the energy from the audience does
come through.
Yeah, Well.

Jay Franze (56:54):
I hate to say this and I probably shouldn't say it,
but a lot of when I say a lot,probably all of the live
recordings that you hear havebeen doctored and fixed and
they're not.
They're not 100% live.
When you hear the record, right, you know they go back, they
replace things, they even tunevocals.

(57:15):
I mean they, they fix things onthose live records.
I know because I was the onehired to do it.
So, yes, those records they doget altered, but there are
people who are just awesome anddon't need to be fixed.
That's what we should befighting for.

They should have to claim it.
How impressed would you be tobe like huh, not auto-tuned,
interesting, right, like itwould be a big bragging point.

Jay Franze (57:47):
I mean, I would say, lean on rock music for that.
But even rock music these daysthey're starting to tune things.
Everybody wants to be perfect.
Music's not supposed to beperfect.
Olivia, oh Olivia, thank youvery much.
Your question of the day.
Segments are my favorites.

I always look forward to hearing what other
people have to say Makes sense.

Jay Franze (58:14):
Thank you, Ethan.
Ethan says do you think AI willreplace humans when it comes to
songwriting?
It's a scary thought, but I'mcurious to hear your take
writing.

It's a scary thought, but I'm curious to hear
your take.

Jay Franze (58:26):
I do think AI is playing more of a role in
songwriting now than peoplethink it is.

Yes, I think.

Jay Franze (58:40):
AI is playing a bigger role in our life than
people think it is.
Yeah, I think people are notaware of how much creative
people are relying on AI thesedays, because it makes things so
much easier If you think aboutthe role of songwriters who sit
in a room together.
They sit in this tiny littleroom and they sit there and the

(59:02):
first thing they say to eachother is all right, you got any
ideas?
No, you got any ideas.
No, all right.
So they try to come up withsomething.
So for them to be able to turnto AI and say give me 10, you
know song ideas, and it'll comeup with song titles.
And that might trigger them tosay, ooh, you know what I like

(59:26):
this, let's change it to thisand let's go with this.
And next thing, you know thatsparked their creativity and now
they're off writing a song andhopefully that's as far as it
goes, right.
But no, now you get some peoplesaying, hey, you know what?
Just go ahead and write theverse for me.
Or you know what?
I've written the verse in thechorus, but I'm having a hard
time coming up with the bridge.

(59:46):
And then, next thing, you knowthey're using AI to do that, and
I don't know if they're usingit 100%.
I'm sure some people are butthey're doing it and they're
starting to rely on more.
So do I think it's going tohappen?
yep, absolutely there are somesongs that are not only 100 ai
written right now, but they're100 ai performed and they're

(01:00:08):
doing well, so they're rackingup plays on spotify, yeah, so if
you really want to hear some ofthis stuff, just go google some
ai songs and look them up onspot Spotify and you'll see they
have hundreds of thousands ofplays.

Tiffany Mason (01:00:27):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (01:00:28):
I can't imagine there's that many people curious
.
I think they just think thosesongs are good.

Yeah.

And I think it's going to be like anything else,
like other tools that we've comeacross throughout time, like
drum machines or things likethat.
We always think they're goingto take over.
There'll be no use for adrummer ever again.
But then we get sick of it andthen we start hiring drummers
again.

Yeah.

So I think what's going to happen is AI will
probably take a big place inwriting, in probably even
recording music, evenengineering music.
There's AI mastering servicesout there, so I mean you can
have your songs mastered in 30seconds using AI.
It's insane.

Yeah.

But eventually people will get sick of it and
it'll start going back.
That's my take.
You asked for it, you got it.
Mark D Mark are you related toFrank.
I need to know you wrote in.

Please, for the love of.

God, mark answer him .
He says country and rockcollaborations are way better
than country and pop.
Mark.
I agree with you 100%, not evena question of my mind, I agree
with that 100, 100%.
Not even a question of my mind.
I agree with that 100%.

Unanimous agreement.

Absolutely prefer the country and rock collabs
over the country and pop ones.

Yep, I cannot argue with you on this one, jay.
I just want to, but I can't.

Yeah, I don't blame you for wanting to Rick.
Rick says Morgan Wallen's newalbum is overrated.

Okay, I mean, I don't know if you've heard the
songs.
There's 37 songs and about 31of them are amazing.

He says it's solid but not groundbreaking.

I don't know that 20 Cigarettes song.
It's Got Me.

Tony Scott (01:02:23):
Huh, and that I Got Better it's.

Got Me Huh and that I Got Better.
Since you Got Gone what I don'tknow.

You know what I like ?
Morgan Wallen.
I like his music.

Mm-hmm.

But I can see where Rick is coming from.
If you compare it to music ofthe past, does it hold up?
Is it as good as some of theother stuff?

I mean If you really pay attention to some of
the lyrics, there are some thatare a little cheesy.

Are there.

Yeah, a couple songs, but that 20 Cigarettes
song, that one is solid, it's asolid song.

Kyle says I just saw Jelly Roll live Best concert
I've been to in years.
The man knows how to connectwith a crowd.

All right, Jelly Roll.

Jelly Roll just got some credit for defusing a
situation over the recentpolitical events where people
started arguing and he did notargue back.
He didn't tell people to stop,he didn't tell people what to do
or how to act, he just startedsinging.
I forget which song it was GodBless America, or one of those

(01:03:36):
songs he just started singing itfor himself to put himself at
peace, and the whole crowd juststarted singing along and
diffused the entire situationthat's awesome so good for him.
Megan says why do countrystations play the same 10 songs
over and over and over again?
Why?

(01:03:56):
Because that's what they'rethere to do.
They're there to make sure theycan sell advertising.
It is 100%.
Don't make any mistake about itwhen you're listening to a
radio station.
The purpose of the radiostation is to sell advertising.
The way they do that is byplaying you the top 10 songs
over and over and over again,Because there's no one person

(01:04:18):
who typically listens to theradio all day long.
They just tune in right now tunein, tune out, right.
So every time they tune in,you're playing a hit song.

They're going to come back when it's time I was
listening to a classic rockstation the other day.
I don't know what song came ongreat song and I was just.
You know, the windows were down.
I was really enjoying myself.
I'm like god, I wonder how manyother people are listening the
same radio station.
You know like I'm on the roadwith like a million people and

(01:04:51):
I'm just thinking like, are youlistening to this same song?
Are you listening to the samesong?

you used to be.
You used to be able to drivearound the road.
You roll down the windows andyou hear the same song.
That doesn't happen anymore.
There's too many ways to playmusic, too many ways to hear
other things while you'redriving, like podcasts or talk
shows or books on tape, whateverit is.
So those days Well they're noton tape.

If they're, I mean unless you have a cassette
player.
Come on, we are old people.

Speak for yourself, my friend.

Books on 8-track.
That is not.

Oh, I'm going to end .
I'm going to pick one more,just because I'm having fun with
this.
I like it.
Please submit yours.
Tina says Luke Combs is themodern-day Garth Brooks, and
people just don't want to admitit.

Luke Combs is the ?
I don't know.

I think Luke Holmes has the energy and enthusiasm of
a Garth Brooks.
I think he's got powerful songs.
I like his rockish edge to hissongs.
But, I on this show have saidin the past that I think Trey
Calloway is the modern day.

Garth Brooks, I was just going to say Yep.

Sound wise for sure.

Yeah.

I don't know, he might even have some of the same
corniness that Garth Brooks has.
But I think Garth Brooks is alittle corny, but man, he's a
rocker and he loves to put on ashow, like I said, swinging from
wires and smashing guitars.

Those are great memories.

So, I think Trey Calloway sounds an awful lot
like Garth Brooks writes thosestyle of songs.

Yes.

I need to go see a show and see if he sell out an
arena and swing from wires, andwe'll see what we get going on
there.

I mean, I wouldn't put it past him, no.

I don't know, it's my two cents.
All right, if you would like tohave your comments right off on
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I keep saying that.
Right, I should probably checkit, slash.

Where is it right there?

Mailbag Yep jfrenzycom mailbag.
I try to make it easy and thenwhen sometimes it just seems so
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Just go to jfrenzy.
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You can listen to the wholecountdown.

What do you have going on this week?
Well, I would like to tell thestory of the boot scoot in
Bourbon.

Story time.

It's story time.

Crisscross applesauce.

So I told you guys last weekend that I was
going to go and I was going togo with a friend.
I was really excited.
She got really sick and I waslike oh hey, I have another
friend that could buy yourticket from you, can she buy
your ticket?
And she was like oh hey, I haveanother friend that could buy
your ticket from you, can shebuy your ticket.
And she's like oh yeah, I neverbought a ticket and I was like
wait, what?

I wasn't really sick .

Yeah.
So I had a ticket to go to thisshow and it's like all over my
Facebook and I know twonetworking groups and they had
their ladies going to it and Iwas like I really want to go and
it's supposed to be like a showlike a little bit Vegas-y-ish,
you know, show lights flashinglittle, barely little

(01:08:34):
pyrotechnics, tectonicspyrotechnics.
That's what I said pyrotechnicsyeah, it was just the accent and
yeah, it's the accent, so I wasreally looking forward to it.
So I get there.
I'm asking my husband.
I'm like, do you want to try toget a ticket?
It's sold out.
I'm like, oh my gosh, am Ireally going to go to this thing

(01:08:54):
by myself?
And I was like, well, and Ikept thinking about my friend
Jay, and I was like Jay would go, jay would go, jay would go,
jay would go, jay would go, andmy husband used to go to movies
by himself and he'd go golfingby himself and I'm like, okay,
sean would go, sean would goespecially golfing.
He's joined other people, he.
I think he would just do 18 byhimself, yeah.

I would.
Yeah, I'll just join othergroups.
Yep, hey, I'm playing with youyeah, yeah.

So I was like okay, I can do this, I can do
this, and I hate going to thingsby myself.
So I walk in and I try to evenget there late, which is like 15
minutes late, because that'slike that way people will be
there.
Because I have a tendency ofbeing I don't know like on time
or whatever, and then being thefirst one there, and then when
I'm not meeting anybody, that'seven more awkward.
So I get the little program andI'm walking around it's not

(01:09:44):
that big of a venue and I'm like, okay, what I'm gonna do,
there's like this uh, you know,build your own cowboy hat,
little fender.
So I go down there and I lookat the hats and the ribbons?
I did not.
I did not.
And so I looked at the hats andI looked at the ribbons and the
little gemstones and all thesethings that they can do to the
hat.
Okay, I was like, well, thattook three minutes.

(01:10:06):
So I was like what am I goingto do now?
So I go up, I get something toeat, walk over this table
there's just a little space lefton this table and I'm like,
would I be able to just eat mymeal really quick, and then, you
know, you can do whatever youwant with your company.
And this lady's like, yeah,sure, so I start eating, you
know, and I'm trying to justlike keep to myself.

(01:10:26):
And she said something to meand I was like I have a podcast
about networking, right, thelink up lounge.
So I'm like I should just tryto network.
Yeah, so I'm like I should justtry to make conversation so you
were swinging at this event Iwas not swinging, I was
networking oh, networking, isthat what we call it?

(01:10:50):
yes, she had this purple tinselin her hair and I was like, well
, I kept wanting to put tinselin my hair.
So I was like, let me strike upa conversation with her.
So I'm talking to her and herboyfriend comes over.
He's like hi, I'm jim Ray,what's your name?
And I was like, oh, I'm Tiffany.
And so we're talking and cometo find out they are closely
related to the main performer ofthe night.

(01:11:13):
I'm like wait, what?
So I'm looking around, still,like, as we're talking, I'm
trying to like you know, okay,where are my any familiar faces?
I still don't see anybody.
And I'm like, oh, dear lord,what I'm gonna do.
And so I told them the story,what had happened, and they were
like oh my gosh, you're gonnasit with us.
And I thought, oh, that wasnice, but I'm not gonna burden

(01:11:34):
them, you know, with trying totake me under their wing for the
night.
But I still don't see anybody.
And they are like insist,insistent.
They're like come sit with us,come sit with us, you can come
to the family section.
I'm like, well, this is kind ofcool.
So I'm like, yeah, okay, cool.
So go sit with them.
They introduced themselves asthis guy's bar parents.
So this was Stephen Quinn, theone that I had mentioned earlier

(01:11:57):
in the show, and his voice wasphenomenal.
They were playing all songsfrom the 90s and a couple of
garth brooks songs came up sogood.
The show itself was like highenergy, great costumes, all the
voices were on point.
They had a fiddle player thereand she was so good and yes,

(01:12:17):
they did.
Devil went down to georgia andthe thing was like it was a
perfect night.
So it went from me walking inand being like, oh dear Lord,
what the heck am I doing rightnow?
And then it turned into like somuch fun.
Afterwards he changes out ofhis costumes or whatever.
He comes over, we take a coupleof pictures and they're doing

(01:12:38):
line dancing.
So we go over and we do someline dancing and then, like
we're going to do a family photo.
No, tiffany, you got to be init.
I'm like but you just, I'm likeI'll take the picture, I'll
take the picture.
And they're like no, you got tobe in the picture.
It was so awesome.
Met great friends.
I will be seeing them at anyperformance that Steven has in
the area because he's that good.

(01:12:59):
I would travel to see him.
Steven has in the area.
Because he's that good, I wouldtravel to see him.
And yeah, I just can't sayenough.
It just turned into a fabulousnight.
So no peeps of my own, but Iborrowed some peeps and it
worked out.

You'll see him again at Thanksgiving.

That's right.
That's right.
Family dinner table Nice.
Okay.
What do you have going on?
Did you do anything cool or yougot something cool coming up?

So what I'm going to do this weekend is try to go
and check out some music.
So I'm going to go to a placecalled the Live Action Bar.
I mention this because it usedto be Tipsy Cow, tipsy.
Cow was an event here or a avenue here in kentucky that has

(01:13:45):
live music, and I've gone to seepeople like avery glenn
crabtree, who previous guests ofthe show amazing, amazing
artist, just amazing.
Not a recording artist, heplays live.
He I don't know if he has anyintent on recording music, but
he's a live musician who's justamazing.
When I say good voice, goodcharisma, great guitar player,

(01:14:07):
he's very good.
So I've gone to see him playthere a couple times.
I've actually seen Jason Haleplay there a couple times.
So I think Jason Hale evenplayed with Avery Glenn Crabtree
as his bass player on a fewshows.
So it's a tight-knit communityof musicians here, just like it
is in Nashville.
So you see a lot of the samepeople, a lot.

Yeah.

Once you become known as being a great bass
player.
In Jason's case, a lot of otherpeople want you to play bass
for them, and when Jason's noton the road touring, he's out
with Jake Worthington right now.
When he's not out on the roadtouring, he comes and plays with
Avery or plays with Kyle Fieldsor whoever else.

Yeah.

So it's good times.
Anyways, instead of going toLaurie's Roadhouse this weekend,
I thought I would go to thelive action bar.
Now, the reason why I'm soexcited about this is because I
really liked the Tipsy Cow Tipsy.

Cow is really good.

It's a honky-tonk venue.
Live music was great, but itclosed.
I didn't realize.
They rebranded and reopened.
Oh so they rebranded same owneras the live action bar, so now
I'm going to go back and checkit out.
Sweet, that is my plan for theweekend.

Wow Fun.

Nice.
What's that?
I got the network in my ear.
They're telling me we need towind this down.
So let's go ahead and land onthe plane as you say, or no, you
say, crash the plane.

Crash it.
We're going to crash it All andthe plane as you say, or no,
you say, crash the plane.

Crash it.
We're going to crash it, allright, folks.
Well, we have done it.
We have reached the top of thehour.
What's the hour yet?
Top of number 16?
.

Top of hour number two.

Which does mean we have reached the end of the show
.
If you've enjoyed the show,please tell a friend.
And if you have not MissTiffany, how many friends should
they tell?

Tell two, tell five, make a post, let everybody
know.

You can also reach out to both of us over at
jayfranze.
com.
We will keep this or any otherconversation going.
We would love to do that.
You can also find our socialsand all of the other things that
we keep talking about overthere, and you can ask us
questions.
You can give us stuff to beread on the show.
You know we can make fun of you.
I mean, you can make fun of ustoo, either way.

(01:16:29):
Alright, miss Tiffany, you gotany final words for us?

I just want to thank our crew members For
keeping us company, and now youguys go out and make this week a
chart topper.

I see what you did there.
Alright, folks on that note,have a good night.

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com.
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