Top Women in Country, First Artist You Connected With, and Country Music News

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SPEAKER_01 (00:32):
And we are coming at you live.
I am Jay Franzi, and with metonight the Abbott Mike
Costello, my beautiful co-host,Miss Tiffany Mason.

SPEAKER_07 (00:44):
Good evening.

SPEAKER_01 (00:45):
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for the latest news, reviews,and interviews.
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Before we get started, myfriend, let me go ahead and tell
you about this question of theday.
It is who is the first artistthat you connected with?

(01:06):
Who is the first artist that youconnected with?
This would be the artist thathas made you fall in love with
music.
Do not answer now, but let's goahead and see how much.

SPEAKER_06 (01:15):
I know I'm very excited though, because I only
have one.
I only have one answer tonight.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20):
That's a first, folks.
Go ahead and save that oneanswer for a little later in the
show.
And if you would like to addyour comments, you can go ahead
and put your comments in thecomments section.
And we will read those off alittle later in the show as
well.
All right.
Speaking of comments, we havethis new segment we are calling
mailbag.

(01:40):
And one of the submissions tothe mailbag was from a woman,
lady, young lady, I don't know,girl, named Jasmine.
And Jasmine said, Can we talkmore about women in country
music?
So I said no.

SPEAKER_04 (01:57):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (01:58):
No, absolutely not.
No.
I thought of Jasmine, actually,when I came across this article
that says Top 12 country songsby women in 2025.
So I thought we could go overthis, make Jasmine happy.

SPEAKER_06 (02:14):
Well, I think that'd be good.
I mean, give credit wherecredit's due.

SPEAKER_01 (02:18):
Credit where credit is due.
So I'm going to start this off,and as always, I did not review
these in advance.
So let's get this going.
Gabby Barrett.
Gabby Barrett, the easy part.
Now it says number 12.
I don't know if they're trulyranked, but that's what it says.

(02:39):
Number 12.

SPEAKER_06 (02:41):
I don't know if I know this song, The Easy Part.

SPEAKER_01 (02:44):
It says this is her first radio single.
It is a vocal ballad, and itwarns of a man leaving her.
Number 11, Kelsey Ballerini.
Kelsey Ballerini baggage.

(03:07):
Says this is a new single.
It's pop friendly.
Pop friendly love song.

SPEAKER_06 (03:15):
Okay.
So one's a guy leaving her, andone is a love song.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (03:20):
There you go.
Lauren Elena, all my exes.
Alright.
This is one this was a stretchfor her.
It doesn't sound like anythingthat she's released previously.

SPEAKER_06 (03:33):
It's true.
She's not really like a breakup,you know, anthem queen singer.

SPEAKER_01 (03:38):
It does say that she was joined by Chase Matthew.
I like Chase Matthew.

SPEAKER_06 (03:43):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (03:44):
Alright.
Megan Moroni, six months later.

SPEAKER_06 (03:48):
Thank God.
One I finally know.
If it doesn't kill you will killyou six months later.

SPEAKER_01 (03:53):
This is the only woman with two songs on the
list.

SPEAKER_06 (03:57):
Oh.
Ooh, I wonder.
What is the other one?

SPEAKER_01 (04:02):
Anticipation.

SPEAKER_06 (04:03):
Ooh.

SPEAKER_01 (04:04):
She's a cute girl.
I like her.

SPEAKER_06 (04:07):
She's so cute.

SPEAKER_01 (04:09):
Number eight.
Numero Ocho, as you say.

SPEAKER_06 (04:13):
Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_01 (04:15):
Dasha.
Not at this party.
Austin.

SPEAKER_06 (04:19):
Oh what?

SPEAKER_01 (04:20):
Not at this party.

SPEAKER_06 (04:21):
Uh-oh.
I'm gonna say Austin.
I don't know.
Not at this party.

SPEAKER_01 (04:26):
Dasha is very good at breakup songs.
She remains in control.

SPEAKER_06 (04:31):
She remains in control.

SPEAKER_01 (04:36):
It's the first time I've ever seen her.
It shows a picture of her.
I don't think I've ever seen herbefore.

SPEAKER_06 (04:40):
I don't know if I have either.
I've listened to her song awhole bunch of times, Austin,
and Hannah gets mad at me everytime.
Must be like an old song, youknow, so Hannah's like, really,
you're gonna play it again?

SPEAKER_01 (04:53):
The picture looks like a 1970s picture.
It's an old greenish couch withuh with paneling on the wall,
and she's kind of dressed inthat 70s vibe.

SPEAKER_04 (05:02):
Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_01 (05:02):
It's kind of neat.

SPEAKER_04 (05:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (05:05):
Ella Langley.
Number seven.
Ella Langley.

SPEAKER_04 (05:08):
Okay.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (05:09):
Weren't for the Wind.

SPEAKER_04 (05:12):
Ah, I like that song.
Okay.
If it weren't for the wind.

SPEAKER_01 (05:18):
It says during Weren't for the Wind, Ella
Langley does her best toconvince us she's the no time
for love type.

SPEAKER_09 (05:26):
Mmm.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (05:29):
Number six, one of the all-time best country
singers.

SPEAKER_04 (05:35):
Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_01 (05:37):
Nope, you're wrong.
Trisha Yearwood.
The Mirror.

SPEAKER_07 (05:44):
I don't know this song either.

SPEAKER_01 (05:46):
This is her first release in six years.
And it proved to be worth thewait.

SPEAKER_06 (05:52):
Okay, well, I will check that out.
The mirror.

SPEAKER_01 (05:55):
The mirror.

SPEAKER_06 (05:56):
The mirror.

SPEAKER_01 (05:57):
It's a cool picture.
She's kind of cocked back in aneasy chair with her one foot
out, wearing this giant dressthat looks like it could be a
wedding, wedding gown.
And of course, then she's got ajean jacket over it.
It's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_06 (06:13):
Sounds dramatic.

SPEAKER_01 (06:15):
Ooh.
Megan Patrick, Golden Child.

SPEAKER_06 (06:21):
Don't know the name, don't know the song.

SPEAKER_01 (06:23):
Warning, it comes from her personal place.
This is a rock and fruit.

SPEAKER_08 (06:30):
Did you say it comes from her personal place?

SPEAKER_01 (06:33):
No, I did not say that.
I would not say that.

SPEAKER_06 (06:38):
It comes from her personal place.

SPEAKER_01 (06:42):
Would like to see how she would sing that.
Warning comes from a personalplace.
Golden child is a rock-infusedcountry track.
You say personal place and thenyou follow it up with golden.
It's all sorts of wrong.

SPEAKER_08 (07:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (07:01):
We need to go to the next one because I think the
gate is still open and I'mhaving a hard time keeping it
in.
Number four, Laney Wilson.
Somewhere over Laredo.
I like that song.

SPEAKER_06 (07:14):
I love that song.
So good.

SPEAKER_01 (07:17):
In Cincinnati, and I'm sure in other cities across
the country, she does the bumperfor it, the radio bumper.
And it says, when she says it,she says, I'm somewhere over
Cincinnati.
Oh no, no, no, no.
Wait, Laredo.

SPEAKER_07 (07:33):
Oh.

SPEAKER_06 (07:35):
I don't think we have that one down here.

SPEAKER_01 (07:37):
Yeah, it's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_06 (07:38):
Yeah, that is cool.
I love whenever they do any ofthe, you know, local specific
town stuff.
Yeah.
I was like, how'd they get that?

SPEAKER_01 (07:46):
They sit there in a room all day long and just say
one after another after anotherafter another.

SPEAKER_08 (07:51):
Yeah, it's very exciting.

SPEAKER_01 (07:53):
Laney Wilson may be country music's most versatile
woman.

SPEAKER_06 (07:57):
Most what woman?
Versatile?
I don't feel like she's veryversatile.
Well, it is thunderstorming heretoo.
So you're competing with thepitter patter on the window.

unknown (08:11):
Nice.

SPEAKER_01 (08:11):
The pitter patter.

SPEAKER_06 (08:12):
And I often hear things wrong because I've got a
wandering mind.

SPEAKER_01 (08:15):
That's true as well.
I'm weird.

SPEAKER_06 (08:19):
There's many factors working against you that are not
your fault, Jay.

SPEAKER_01 (08:24):
My fault for choosing you.

SPEAKER_08 (08:27):
Tonight I did something goofy in the kitchen.
I was singing a song in a weirdway.
And then Sean made fun of me toHannah, and I looked at him and
I said, You chose me.

SPEAKER_01 (08:38):
Fair enough.
Margot Price, don't let thebastards get you down.

SPEAKER_08 (08:47):
I like that.
I don't know the song, butthat's a funny title.

SPEAKER_01 (08:51):
It looks like an old-time Western outfit.

SPEAKER_08 (08:54):
Funny.
Like when you go to theadventure parks and you're gonna
take the yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (09:00):
Black and way with a cowboy hat, and she's got her
thumbs kind of in the beltbuckles or the belt loops.

SPEAKER_06 (09:07):
She's a sharpshooter from back in the dirt dirt road
days.

SPEAKER_01 (09:11):
Margot Price borrowed one of Chris
Kistrofferson's favoritesayings.
Is that don't let the bastardsget you down?

SPEAKER_06 (09:19):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (09:20):
Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (09:21):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (09:22):
Miranda Lambert.
Run.

SPEAKER_06 (09:25):
Run.

SPEAKER_01 (09:26):
Run.
Run is fascinating.
It's fascinating listening in2025.

SPEAKER_06 (09:31):
Ooh.
Run.
I like Miranda, so I probablylike it.
I'm gonna look it up.
Trisha and Miranda, they got myvote.
I'm intrigued.

SPEAKER_01 (09:40):
Now Miranda, postcards from Texas is the
album.
The album cover looks typicalMiranda.
She's got the t-shirt on that'spretty bold.
The cowboy hat with feathers andstuff.
Not your traditional cowboy hat.
Buckingham.

SPEAKER_06 (10:00):
I was at Ace Hardware looking for a gift.
That's where you normally lookfor a gift for other women.
Yeah.
At Ace Hardware.
They have a pretty sweet littlegift section, little boutiquey
area.

SPEAKER_01 (10:11):
Yeah, my wife loves when I shop at Ace Hardware.

SPEAKER_06 (10:16):
She says that's just what I wanted.

SPEAKER_01 (10:17):
Not a sponsor, but could be.

SPEAKER_06 (10:21):
And uh they had cowboy hats in there.
And I was like, of all thehardware store.
No, it's like in the boutiquearea, though.
It's not, it's not with themanly stuff, it's for chicks.
And then the one hat said it wasadjustable, so it's got like
that band on the inside, it'slike a sweatband, you know, but
you can like draw.

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I was like, okay, that'sinteresting.
Okay.
But you know, there have beenthree times where Hannah needed
a cowboy hat.
And I was like, I don't know, myfriend has a hat that she
borrows, but it it's almost alittle too small for Hannah, and
it kind of looks, it's just notthe real look that she's going
for.
Anyway, I'm like, who knew Icould have run to Ace Hardware
all these times to get hercowgirl hat.

SPEAKER_00 (11:07):
All right.

SPEAKER_06 (11:08):
So if you guys have an Ace Hardware in your area,
you too can pick up a cowboyhat, cowgirl hat, whatever kind
of hat you want.

SPEAKER_01 (11:16):
For those watching us on YouTube, Tiffany's taking
her top off.

SPEAKER_04 (11:20):
It's getting hot in here.

unknown (11:22):
Nice.

SPEAKER_01 (11:23):
It is topless Thursday.
I just thought about that.
It is topless Thursday.

SPEAKER_05 (11:29):
Topless Thursday.
Woo!

SPEAKER_01 (11:32):
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SPEAKER_09 (11:37):
Join us live tonight and tell us your thoughts.

SPEAKER_01 (11:40):
Hop on in here.
All right, let's get this overwith.
Number one, Megan Moroney.
Am I okay?

SPEAKER_06 (11:50):
It's a pretty good song.
That was awesome at the concertwhen everybody in the audience
was screaming, Oh my god, am Iokay?
Was awesome.

SPEAKER_01 (12:03):
Megan Moroni really seemed to find her voice during
this chart run of Am I Okay?
Mm-hmm.
She looks very different in thispicture than the one earlier.

SPEAKER_09 (12:16):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (12:17):
A woman with multiple looks.
She looks very classy in thispicture.
Like high-end going out to aball classy.

SPEAKER_06 (12:25):
Oh wow.
Her hair's up and um, I thinkthat's the one I do not like.
I like when her hair is down.

SPEAKER_01 (12:34):
That picture's down, but it's also up.

SPEAKER_06 (12:38):
Yes, it's half up.

SPEAKER_01 (12:39):
Yes, that's what I said.
It's half up.

SPEAKER_06 (12:41):
Yes.
And I do not like that pictureof her because it makes me think
of the Vim bots from AustinPowers.
I think we talked about thatbefore.

SPEAKER_01 (12:49):
It's true.

SPEAKER_06 (12:50):
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Country Jam in Colorado takes uh2026 time out.
So for 33 years, they've hadthis festival, and they have
decided that they are pausing itto regroup and plan its future.
Must have gotten rusty anddusty, and they just think that

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it needs a facelift.

SPEAKER_01 (13:14):
Oh, that's funny.
Your girl, Miranda Lambert, shehosted that in the past.

SPEAKER_05 (13:21):
Oh, is that right?

SPEAKER_01 (13:23):
I mean, it's a big deal.
That's why I'm assuming that'swhy it's in the news.

SPEAKER_06 (13:27):
But yeah.
I'm not from Colorado.
I have not heard of it before,but I don't doubt that is very
exciting because I saw who theheadliners were supposed to be
this year, and they were veryimpressive.
Anyway.
Okay.
Something else is veryimpressive.
Georgia steak and shake owner.

(13:47):
He has a billboard with CharlieKirk on it, and it's sparking
national attention.
So a Georgia businessman, WayneRobinson, recently put up a
billboard tribute to CharlieKirk, and fans have been
flocking to that particularlocation to show their support.

SPEAKER_01 (14:04):
I do not like their fries.
Steak and shake, please still bea sponsor because I like your
burgers.

SPEAKER_06 (14:10):
And I like your fries.

SPEAKER_01 (14:11):
I have a problem with the shoestring fries.

SPEAKER_06 (14:15):
I like shoestring fries.

SPEAKER_01 (14:16):
No, I'd prefer steak fries.

SPEAKER_06 (14:18):
Mr.
Mason likes steak fries.
I like crinkle cut fries orcrinkle cut or shoestring.

SPEAKER_01 (14:24):
Yeah.
Crinkle cut, good.

SPEAKER_06 (14:26):
And I do get mad at waffle.

SPEAKER_01 (14:28):
Yeah, I'm not a fan of it.
I mean, they're just potatoes ata point.

SPEAKER_06 (14:32):
They're cumbersome.
They're you they think thatthey're giving you a lot, but
really you only got like three.
Sorry, two.
How am I gonna fit it in theranch dippy thing?

SPEAKER_01 (14:41):
There's all sorts of problems with the waffle fries.

SPEAKER_06 (14:43):
You know what the waffle fries are good for?
Is the loaded fries.
You know, where they're pickingup the cheese and the bacon.

SPEAKER_01 (14:49):
It's more like nachos at that point.

SPEAKER_06 (14:51):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (14:54):
So kind of hungry.

SPEAKER_06 (14:55):
Anyhow, I don't know which location in Georgia, but
if you look it up, if you figureout which one rain Wayne
Robinson runs, that is a tonguetwister.
Wayne Robinson runs.
You can show oh, Wayne Robinsonruns.
I have to really say themseparately.

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Okay.
Next one is Lainey Wilsonsurprises the fan mid-show with
a heartfelt hug.
She was in the middle ofperforming, and without
hesitation, she gets up from herseat and goes from the seat, her
seat on stage, and made her wayto the front row, telling her
fan, let's just take a second.
I'm going to come hug your neck.

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First of all, I mean from thebeginning, girl.
Remember when we played thatcasino and literally nobody was
there?
It was just you on the front rowby the barricade.
And I was like, My girl's here.
I love you.
Thank you.
So somebody that has supportedLainey this whole time.
She walks over and justacknowledges her that right

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there in front of everybody.

SPEAKER_01 (15:58):
Boom.

SPEAKER_06 (15:59):
Boom.

SPEAKER_01 (16:00):
She's good like that.

SPEAKER_06 (16:01):
She is good like that.
I like the fact that, well,really what it made me think of.
So y'all know Jay was onMemories of a Beat, right?
And we talked about yes, Pepsi,not a sponsor, but it could be.
If you guys know anybody who'sPepsi and they want to sponsor
the Jay Franzi show, let usknow.

SPEAKER_01 (16:19):
And their factories right down the road from my
house.

SPEAKER_06 (16:21):
Okay, well, even more appropriate.
I mean, if we could get somebourbon, that'd be ideal.
But, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (16:28):
Working on it.

SPEAKER_06 (16:28):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (16:29):
Johnny James.

SPEAKER_06 (16:30):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (16:31):
Whiskey, but you know, close enough.

SPEAKER_04 (16:34):
Is it?
I don't know.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (16:40):
Bourbon has more hoops you could have jumped
through in order to be able tocall it bourbon.

SPEAKER_06 (16:45):
And it has to come out of Kentucky.

SPEAKER_01 (16:46):
And it well, it should come out of Kentucky.

SPEAKER_06 (16:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (16:49):
That's a debate people have.

SPEAKER_06 (16:52):
Okay.
Okay.
Let's get back on track here.
Yeah.
Um bourbon.
It made me think of.
Oh, wait.

SPEAKER_01 (16:59):
He meant your story.

SPEAKER_06 (17:01):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (17:02):
You wanted to go over that one more time.

SPEAKER_06 (17:06):
It's my turn.

SPEAKER_01 (17:07):
So you want to focus on the story?

SPEAKER_06 (17:10):
Shh.
It's my turn.
Okay.
I love that she acknowledgesfan, but what it made me think
of is how Von Ray would havebeen, and they would have been
like, well, if they saw you inthe front row at their concert,
they would have been like, Jayman, I remember when you were
hanging out here, when you werehanging out with my mom at the
merch table, and you've beenhere from the beginning.

SPEAKER_08 (17:35):
That's immediately what I thought of when I read
this story.

SPEAKER_01 (17:37):
That's true.
I was there from the beginning.
I'm there for them now.
If they were to perform a showtomorrow, I would be there.

SPEAKER_08 (17:45):
I would too.

SPEAKER_01 (17:46):
I would drive the 12 hours to go see them for sure.
I would too.

SPEAKER_06 (17:49):
It takes me two hours and I'd be there.

SPEAKER_01 (17:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (17:55):
All right.
Well, moving right along.

SPEAKER_01 (17:57):
Moving on.

SPEAKER_06 (17:58):
Mr.
Cody Johnson is earning Dad ofthe Year buzz for big moves
offstage.
He's known for his music, buthis fans are applauding how
he'll spend tens of thousandsgolfing a private jet to make
his kids recital.
I don't know why he's golfing aprivate jet.

SPEAKER_01 (18:15):
I was just going to say.

SPEAKER_06 (18:16):
I mean I think he's going to be riding in a private
jet to make it to his kids'dance recital.

SPEAKER_01 (18:24):
Is that a rich person word for renting?

SPEAKER_06 (18:28):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (18:30):
Instead of flying a plane, why doesn't he just ride
the bull?

SPEAKER_06 (18:33):
Right.
I think that's what he's goingto do.
Regardless, he is going to getto his kids' dance recital, and
that is admirable.

SPEAKER_01 (18:41):
Yep.

SPEAKER_06 (18:42):
I only know one song by Cody Johnson.
I know he's got lots and lots.
Yeah, I don't know what it is.
I know there is one on the radioright now.
You look it up.
I'm going to talk about DollyParton.
Jay, get to work.

SPEAKER_01 (18:54):
George.
Apparently you're fired.

SPEAKER_06 (18:58):
Okay.
What is really going on withDolly?
So her team has apologizedbecause she has postponed some
of her shows and she hasn'treally fully explained what's
going on.
But in other recent news, shehas health guidance after a
kidney stone led to aninfection, keeping her off the

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road.
Six planned Vegas dates aremoved to 2026 as she deals with
health issues and keeps fansupdated.
So I guess it was hush-hush fora minute, and now it is public
knowledge.
And good for her that she'sreplanning those dates.
And it's like we've said before,like they're just humans.

SPEAKER_01 (19:36):
It's true.
And kidney stones are nothing tomess with.

SPEAKER_06 (19:40):
Yeah, and I've never had one, and I don't ever want
one.

SPEAKER_01 (19:43):
My wife gets them all the time and it puts her in
the emergency room.

SPEAKER_06 (19:47):
I was gonna say, Oh my gosh, that's terrible.
That's scary, too.

SPEAKER_01 (19:53):
I know.
You know how hard it is for meto create those stones inside of
her.
Wildfire, Cody Johnson,wildfire.

SPEAKER_06 (20:01):
Wildfire.
Good call, good call, good call.
Okay.
So, in other news with Dolly, Imean there's a lot going on with
Dolly this week.
Her late husband, Carl Dean,typically private, he once
jumped on stage to sing withDolly at the fair.
So out of character, she laterlaughed.
Just reading that, can you hearher laughing?

(20:23):
Whatever she does.
Nice.
Oh, another clip.
An exact per impersonation.

SPEAKER_01 (20:32):
I know um it's not nice to talk about a woman's
age, but obviously it's it'sclear that she's up there in
age.
Yes.
But she won a Guinness BookWorld Record for having a top 20
hit in every decade that she'sbeen performing, and that's 70.
70 years, seven decades.

SPEAKER_04 (20:54):
Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_06 (20:57):
Wow.
And uh refresh my memory.
I don't think that she made itin the top two when we talked
about the most influentialwomen.

SPEAKER_01 (21:04):
That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06 (21:06):
Holy smokes! You got Dollywood, she got a top 20 in
seven decades.
Who else has had a 70-year-longcareer?

SPEAKER_01 (21:17):
Not I.

SPEAKER_06 (21:19):
Not I.
Wow.

SPEAKER_01 (21:21):
Not yet.
I'm going for it, but not yet.

SPEAKER_06 (21:24):
Yeah, yeah, I see it.
I can see it in the future.
I'm working on it.
Well, a little bit of sad newsor a little bit of like
intriguing news.
After the tragic floods at CampMystic, the camp has announced
in 2026 to start reopening, butwhen they made the announcement,

(21:47):
it drew protest because there'sstill one camper that is
unaccounted for.
So hopefully they put that onhold and honor that family.

SPEAKER_01 (22:00):
Yeah, that's sad.

SPEAKER_06 (22:02):
Very sad.
I can't imagine.
Well, let's turn the boat aroundand go something a little bit,
you know, happier.
Taste of country.
Love Taste of Country.
Every time we mention anythingfrom them, it always makes me
think of when my dad wouldbalance the checkbook on Sundays
and he would put on CMT TV andlisten to the countdowns and

(22:25):
then the videos and then Cookand Chase would come on and uh
just so many good memories, butit's like all the time because
we talk about them a lot.
Like you and I off-air, we talkabout them a lot.

SPEAKER_01 (22:35):
Anyways, so you just said CMT TV.

SPEAKER_06 (22:39):
And they would have Taste of Country on there.

SPEAKER_01 (22:41):
Country music television television.

SPEAKER_06 (22:43):
I know that's why I said it's like when you say the
ATM machine.

SPEAKER_01 (22:47):
No, you don't say the ATM machine.

SPEAKER_06 (22:49):
I know, but a lot of people do.
And then I said CMT, well, TV.
I corrected myself, but then Iduplicated myself.

SPEAKER_01 (23:02):
We look up to you for accurate information.

SPEAKER_07 (23:04):
CMT TV.

SPEAKER_01 (23:05):
Now you're gonna have a bunch of crew members
going around saying CMT TV.

SPEAKER_06 (23:10):
I know.
Just a CMT guys, if you guys sayit in the wild, not with
somebody who is another.
Well, now for everybody who'swatching.

SPEAKER_01 (23:23):
I'm trying to join the club.

SPEAKER_06 (23:26):
Now it is topless Thursday.

SPEAKER_01 (23:27):
Topless Thursday.

SPEAKER_06 (23:28):
Jay's taking his top off.
Things are getting interesting.
I've never seen Jay DeRobe.
This is interesting.

SPEAKER_01 (23:35):
I'm trying to strip here.
Trying to do it.
This is what you call class.

SPEAKER_08 (23:42):
It's like you're it's like you're at home, sweet
home.

SPEAKER_10 (23:45):
It's like that, right?

SPEAKER_06 (23:48):
And the reason I mention home sweet home is
because nice.
Jay's trying to pretend that heis a rack.

SPEAKER_01 (23:57):
Oh mercy.

SPEAKER_06 (23:58):
That's just in.
Beep beep, beep, beep, beep,beep.

SPEAKER_01 (24:01):
It's just in this episode's not airing.

SPEAKER_06 (24:05):
Okay.
Motley Crue and Dolly are doinga collab question mark.

SPEAKER_01 (24:11):
I just like the fact that you said speaking of home
sweet home.
I was almost going to beimpressed that you knew Motley
Crue saying home sweet home.
But that's part of the headline.

SPEAKER_07 (24:22):
I know, I know that.
Yeah.
Oh, you the oh I thought youjust knew it.

SPEAKER_06 (24:27):
No, no, no.
Anyways, okay.
Reborn with a country twist.
So Dolly Parton joins withrockers on a new version,
blending genres, bringing freshlife to the classic.
What is happening?
Are you just taking your armsout?

SPEAKER_01 (24:42):
I got hot.
I did.

SPEAKER_08 (24:46):
So what why don't you take it off your head?

SPEAKER_01 (24:48):
Rather than passing out, I just figured I would just
kind of take it off a little.
Is that better?
I look like I'm wearing a cape.
Call me Super Jay.

SPEAKER_07 (25:06):
Okay, well, tonight I am the cape to Jay's Super
Jay.

unknown (25:11):
Oh God.

SPEAKER_08 (25:14):
Oh dear Lord, save us with the question of the day.

SPEAKER_01 (25:17):
Oh, question of the time.

SPEAKER_08 (25:18):
Save us, Jay.

SPEAKER_01 (25:19):
It's that time.
Oh Lord, what was our questionof the day?
Let's see.
Question of the day.
Who's the first artist that youconnected with?
Who is the first artist that youconnected with?
You know, the one that made youfall in love with music.
All right.

(25:40):
Miss Tiffany, I'm gonna goahead, as always, and give you
the opportunity to go first orsave it to the end.
End.

SPEAKER_06 (25:47):
End doing doing a mic drop.

SPEAKER_01 (25:50):
Boom.
Alright.
Let's just go through thesequick tonight because there are
lots of them.

SPEAKER_07 (25:58):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (25:58):
Sarah says Garth Brooks.

SPEAKER_07 (26:00):
Duh, yes.

SPEAKER_01 (26:02):
He made a lot of people fall in love with music.
He made a lot of people fallback in love with country music.

SPEAKER_06 (26:07):
I was just gonna say, yep.
Took the words right out of mymouth.

SPEAKER_01 (26:09):
James.

SPEAKER_06 (26:10):
Kind of rude.

SPEAKER_01 (26:11):
James.
Sorry.
Didn't mean to be rude.

SPEAKER_06 (26:14):
Take the words out of my mouth again.

SPEAKER_01 (26:16):
James, not the same James.

SPEAKER_06 (26:18):
New James.

SPEAKER_01 (26:19):
Different James.
Says the Beatles.
Lisa says Shania Twain.
It's all about her confidenceand her energy.

SPEAKER_06 (26:28):
Yeah, made her feel like a woman.

SPEAKER_01 (26:30):
Good call.
David.
David says Elvis Presley.

SPEAKER_04 (26:34):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (26:36):
Emily says Taylor Swift.
Chris says Nirvana.
Just raw motion.
Hannah, thank you for comingback.

SPEAKER_07 (26:49):
No?
Whitney Houston.
Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_01 (26:54):
Yeah, you have me, Hannah.
You're back.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 (26:57):
You got me backpedaling on my choice.

SPEAKER_01 (27:00):
Mm-hmm.
Mike says, come on, Tiffany,what about Metallica?

SPEAKER_07 (27:09):
Good call, Mike.

SPEAKER_01 (27:11):
Rockalooch says Dolly Parton.
How can we not say Dolly Parton?
We've talked about her 26 timestonight.

SPEAKER_07 (27:17):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (27:18):
Kevin says Johnny Cash.
Amanda, this is a good one.
Amanda says Alanis Morisset.

SPEAKER_06 (27:25):
Ooh, I like that one.
That would be a tie with myother one.
Yeah, that was good.

SPEAKER_01 (27:30):
I think Alanis Morisset made a lot of people
think about music in a differentway.
And I don't think she gets anyof the credit she deserves.

SPEAKER_09 (27:37):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (27:38):
Tyler says Leonard Skinnard.
This is Lanard Skinard.

SPEAKER_06 (27:47):
No, that was the name of the album, right?

SPEAKER_01 (27:50):
I guess.

SPEAKER_06 (27:51):
It was the name of the album or the song.

SPEAKER_01 (27:53):
Mr.
Botilato, join back in and tellus.
Sophia says Adele.
Daniel says the Eagles.
Olivia says Billy Eilish.
Ryan says Bruce Springsteen.
Kelly, Faith Hill.
Zach, George Strait.
He is the king.

(28:14):
I agree with that.
Ethan says Green Day.
Natalie says Carrie Underwood.
She proved that it's cool to becountry.

SPEAKER_04 (28:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (28:26):
Brandon says A C D C.
Laura says let's be classic andgo with Patsy Klein.

SPEAKER_04 (28:32):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (28:33):
Justin says, screw you, Laura.
I'm going with Eminem.

SPEAKER_06 (28:37):
Okay.
Now we gotta be nice to eachother.
I really play nice in thesandbox.

SPEAKER_01 (28:43):
Don't make us turn the question the day around.
Megan says Reba McIntyre.
Connor says Led Zeppelin.
Tiffany, you you remember whoLed Zeppelin is?

SPEAKER_07 (28:54):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (28:57):
I love you, Connor.
You're my new favorite.
Alyssa says Christina Aguilera.
Ah, if we're gonna talk aboutthat.
Samantha says Britney Spears.
Anthony says Hank Williams Jr.
Vanessa says Kelly Clarkson.
Patrick says Prince.

(29:17):
Sean says Z Z Top.
Who is the singer for ZZ Top?

SPEAKER_06 (29:25):
All I know is they have long beards.
I feel like we just talked aboutthis.

SPEAKER_01 (29:32):
You take a minute.

SPEAKER_07 (29:34):
Um I'm not gonna get there.

SPEAKER_01 (29:36):
Courtney says Selene Dion.

SPEAKER_07 (29:39):
Nathan.
Is his name Nathan?

SPEAKER_01 (29:43):
His name is Nathan.
Billy Gibbons.

SPEAKER_07 (29:47):
That's what I said.
Billy Gibbons.
I knew we just talked about it,but Jason, you are awesome.

SPEAKER_01 (29:57):
Jason's come on, Tiffany.
Do you remember Aerosmith?

SPEAKER_08 (30:04):
I remember Aerosmith and Steven Tyler.

SPEAKER_01 (30:06):
Yes, I do.
Um Cole.
Cole, you're new here.
Thank you.
Cole says Chris Stapleton.

SPEAKER_07 (30:14):
He must be young.

SPEAKER_01 (30:14):
Matthew says Van Halen.
Sophie says Joni Mitchell.

SPEAKER_09 (30:19):
Ooh, good.

SPEAKER_01 (30:20):
Hunter.
Hunter.
Are you new here, Hunter?
I don't remember ever sayingHunter.
Says Tim McGraw.
Jackie says Mitch Miller.
Mike.
Michael.
He's here every week.
Thank you, Michael.
He says, you know my answer, butfor those who don't, it's KISS.

SPEAKER_04 (30:41):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (30:42):
Yeah, I'm well aware Michael is a big KISS fan.
Scott says Joan Jett.

SPEAKER_07 (30:50):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (30:51):
I like Joan Jett.
I saw her perform at a college,Salem State College in
Massachusetts.
James, the James, the one andonly James, who came up with our
question of the day for twoweeks in a row.
The only reason I'm giving himtwo weeks in a row is because
you put them both in the samecomment.

SPEAKER_06 (31:10):
Well, they're good questions.

SPEAKER_01 (31:12):
They're good questions.
I like it.
So James says Fleetwood Mac.

SPEAKER_06 (31:18):
Ooh.
James just gained big pointswith me.
I just had it on the today.
My mom called and I said, Youlisten, you hear what I got on?
Got rumors on.

SPEAKER_01 (31:30):
Because we know you don't get a top on.
Mark.
Mark Botalato.

SPEAKER_06 (31:36):
Botalato.

SPEAKER_01 (31:37):
Use his last name because he has been on the show.
Ozzy.

SPEAKER_04 (31:42):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (31:43):
He says, however, to be more specific, Randy Rhodes.

unknown (31:47):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (31:48):
That's where the journey began.

SPEAKER_06 (31:52):
I'm very jealous of people that are like so aware of
the lead singer, and then whensomebody changes, and then they
know the new singer.
I'm not thinking I would know ifthey change the words.

SPEAKER_01 (32:07):
I don't think in country music you typically know
much about that type of stuff.
Because they change the bandmembers are hired guns.
Even on the road, they're hiredguns.

SPEAKER_06 (32:16):
I never knew that either.

SPEAKER_01 (32:18):
In the studio.
But in the rock worlds, when youget to know a band, it's five
five guys that grew up togetherin a garage.

SPEAKER_06 (32:28):
Right.
So well, you know, it came up onmy podcast that now everybody's
trying to get famous on likeTikTok and Spotify and
Instagram.
And I think back in the day wedidn't have those social media
outlets.
So everybody tried to form thesebands in their garages trying to

(32:48):
get famous.
You know, like we have all theseinfluencers now, but before it
was, like you said, these guyswho grew up in high school
together and they formed a bandand tried to make a go of it.

SPEAKER_01 (32:58):
There you go.
Carol says Elvis.
Kim, Kim says David Cassidy.

SPEAKER_06 (33:08):
Oh cute.
Probably from the show.

SPEAKER_01 (33:11):
Kim, you are awesome.
Jay, not this Jay, but that J,says Bob Seeger.
Now he also says the Eagles, butto be fair, he should only get
one.

SPEAKER_07 (33:24):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (33:25):
And Deb.
Deb says the Eagles.
She only said one, so she getsit.
She gets credit for the Eagles.

SPEAKER_05 (33:33):
We're following the rules.

SPEAKER_01 (33:34):
I don't know.
Is that a rule?
We always say it is, but I know.

SPEAKER_06 (33:39):
Kate.
That's a loose and fast rule.

SPEAKER_01 (33:41):
I'm gonna use Kate's last name.

SPEAKER_06 (33:43):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (33:44):
Not a previous guest.
Potential future guest.
Only because it says Kate MorrisMusic.
So I'm assuming she wants peopleto know that she performs music.

SPEAKER_07 (33:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (33:55):
So Kate, there you go.
Kate Morris Music.
So if anybody would like tovisit Miss Kate Morris, you can
do that over at Kate MorrisMusic.
She says, dear God, I don'tknow.

SPEAKER_05 (34:08):
Oh, she's already got us regretted.

SPEAKER_01 (34:11):
Does a movie count?
Regoletto.

SPEAKER_07 (34:15):
Is it the name of the movie or the song?
In the movie.

SPEAKER_01 (34:20):
It literally just says, Does a movie count?
Regoletto.
And that's in quotes.

SPEAKER_06 (34:24):
The maybe the Rigoletto movie made her fall in
love with music.

SPEAKER_01 (34:28):
And if it doesn't, well then we're going with
Mariah Carey.
So she had her backup ready.

SPEAKER_05 (34:36):
Okay, I like it.

SPEAKER_01 (34:37):
John McLean, using his last name as well, because
it also says John McLean music.
Oh he says Toby Keith.

SPEAKER_06 (34:45):
Thank you for clarifying.

SPEAKER_01 (34:46):
Well, you know, hey.
Drew Ryder Smith, previous guestof the show.
He says Georgia Satellites andthe Nitty Gritty Dirt Band.

SPEAKER_09 (34:59):
Mmm.

SPEAKER_01 (35:01):
Maya Project Music.
Also, previous guest of the showsays Depeche Mode.
And Miss Tiffany, that brings usto you.

SPEAKER_04 (35:11):
Oh wow.

SPEAKER_06 (35:13):
Okay.
Well, I'm gonna sneak to N thatI that I wasn't originally
thinking of.

SPEAKER_01 (35:22):
That's how it usually works with my wife, too.

SPEAKER_06 (35:27):
And I'm gonna say Paula, Jewel, and Janet Jack.

SPEAKER_01 (35:30):
Oh, whoa, whoa, you said one.

unknown (35:31):
I know.

SPEAKER_06 (35:32):
I know.
And that's because they weremusic videos.
And so that was really when Iwas younger, younger.
But then when I really fell inlove with music was Jewel.
That was my solid pick.

SPEAKER_01 (35:44):
Jewel is a good choice.

SPEAKER_06 (35:46):
Yeah.
I remember singing every song onher CD, and I would just keep
replaying the CD over and over.
I would sing the songs over andover.
Couldn't get enough Jewel.

SPEAKER_01 (35:58):
Jewel is awesome.
I always thought she was verycute, very good looking.

SPEAKER_06 (36:02):
Yeah, I like how she like holds the note out.
She has some vibrato, a lot ofemotion.
I just really liked it.

SPEAKER_04 (36:10):
So that's when I gotta pick.

SPEAKER_01 (36:15):
Susie made me fall in love with music.
It was that time we spent underthe bleachers.
Music was playing in thebackground.
Oh wait, no.

SPEAKER_06 (36:27):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (36:27):
No.
Should we say it together?
Say what?
Oh, you think you know who myband is, my artist.

SPEAKER_06 (36:36):
Surprise me.

SPEAKER_01 (36:37):
One, two, three.

SPEAKER_10 (36:41):
Journey.

SPEAKER_01 (36:45):
Yes, journey.
I mean, if we want to take astep before that, you might be
able to say Kenny Rogers.
And air supply.
My dad used to listen to KennyRogers and Air Supply a lot.
I remember as a kid taking hiscassettes at the time and
playing them when I went to bed.
So I could listen to KennyRogers when I was funny to

(37:07):
sleep.

SPEAKER_06 (37:16):
And what was the other group I was thinking of?

SPEAKER_01 (37:18):
Air Supply is another one that doesn't get the
credit they deserve.

SPEAKER_06 (37:21):
Yeah, they're very good.
And I was thinking, like, man, Ishould thank him for exposing me
to such great music.

SPEAKER_01 (37:28):
I'm not listening to you.

SPEAKER_06 (37:30):
I know.
I know.
You're getting cooled off.
He's taking the layer offfinally.
The cape is disappearing, y'all.
No cape for Jay.
This is a raw, unedited cut.

SPEAKER_01 (37:45):
All right.
Did you say something?

SPEAKER_06 (37:46):
No.
No.
I didn't say anything about you.
No, I wasn't saying anything.
Silent dead area.

SPEAKER_01 (37:55):
Being toppled me hot.

SPEAKER_06 (37:57):
Yeah.
That makes sense.
Okay, I like those answers.
Those are good answers, and I'mproud of you for having three.

SPEAKER_01 (38:05):
Oh, I had three because I brought up the other
two.

SPEAKER_06 (38:08):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (38:09):
Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (38:10):
Yeah.
I think it is true that like youcan kind of remember as a kid
being a little bit younger, acouple that stick out, but then
like when you truly jumped in,you know, that was my my jewel
moment and your journey moment.

SPEAKER_01 (38:23):
There you go.

SPEAKER_06 (38:24):
Yeah, we use the J's.
Yes.
And you're a J.
And you're whacked.
Okay, let's talk about thecharts.
Charts.
Charts.
Charts.
We've got a debuter and spotnumber 10.
Yeah, we start with 10.

SPEAKER_01 (38:45):
Didn't even think about it today.
I didn't even look at the chartswhen you said it.

SPEAKER_06 (38:48):
Okay.
So we're gonna start with number10 in a debut spot.
Jackson Dean with Heavens toBetsy.
Heavens to Betsy.
I never knew it was pluralheavens.
I thought it was heaven toBetsy.

SPEAKER_01 (39:03):
No.

SPEAKER_06 (39:03):
No, it's plural.

SPEAKER_01 (39:04):
Plural it is.

SPEAKER_06 (39:06):
Okay.
Spot number nine coming fromnumber 10 was John Party.
Friday night heartbreaker.

SPEAKER_01 (39:17):
Oh, John Party.
Got it.

SPEAKER_06 (39:20):
John Party, yeah.
And Mr.
Chase Matthews, who I mistakenas a part of the year.
Yeah.
Oh, Chase Matthew.
Yeah, not plural.
There's only one of him.
He's debuting in spot numbereight with Darlin.

SPEAKER_01 (39:34):
Darlin.

SPEAKER_06 (39:35):
I don't think I've heard it.

SPEAKER_01 (39:37):
Yeah, you've heard it.
There's no way you couldn'thave.
It is a great song.
He's a great artist.
It's a great number to be on.

SPEAKER_07 (39:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (39:46):
However, we talked about country club music.
This is like the definition ofwhat country club music would
be.
It is repetitive drum programmusic the entire time.
You know, it's good, it's agreat song, but it's a pop song.
It is not.
He's country to the bone.

(40:08):
I get it.
He really is.
But it's a pop song.

SPEAKER_06 (40:12):
Okay.
Well, I'm still gonna check itout and I will report back next
week, you guys.

SPEAKER_01 (40:17):
It is a great song.

SPEAKER_06 (40:19):
In spot number seven is Mr.
Luke Combs Back in the Saddle.
I am a big fan of this song.
So he rose two spots from spotnumber nine to spot number
seven.

unknown (40:28):
Nice.

SPEAKER_06 (40:29):
And Maureen Wallen.
I love this song too.
I got better.
And it went from spot eight tospot six.
What are you what are youlaughing at?

SPEAKER_01 (40:38):
I love this one.
I love this one.
I love this one.

SPEAKER_06 (40:40):
I know, I know.
There, there, I mean, I couldsay it about all of them.
I don't know if I love numbertwo.

SPEAKER_01 (40:45):
Oh, we're not up there yet.

SPEAKER_06 (40:47):
I know, I know.
I didn't say it.
I wanted to.
I didn't.
I'm not gonna ruin it.

SPEAKER_01 (40:51):
Premature.

SPEAKER_06 (40:54):
Looking for a button?
Premature.
Okay.
Okay.
I thought you were gonna fireme.
Okay.
Now Mr.
Jordan Davis has moved from spotsix to spot five with bar none.
Two words.
Bar, comma, none.
We put the comma in there, butyeah.
Okay, and Mr.

(41:14):
Shaboozy, he is slipping.
He went from spot one.
No, this is not good news.
From spot one to spot four.
Shaboozzi, good news.
Okay, and you know, my boy, myboy, Scotty McCreary, he's going

(41:36):
from spot four to spot threewith bottle rockets.
I mean, he slowly got up to one,and he's slowly coming down the
ladder.

SPEAKER_01 (41:45):
He went from four to three.

SPEAKER_08 (41:50):
Oh, he's still climbing.
You are so good at the show.

SPEAKER_01 (41:56):
So good at the news.

SPEAKER_07 (41:57):
You really are.
Yeah.
News.

SPEAKER_06 (42:05):
Okay, so I looked at the wrong numbers.
So Scotty McCreary from spotfour to spot three.
So he's still climbing.
I feel like I need to point outevery week.
I found that song.
I put everybody's attention onit.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (42:19):
It's true.
You found it early.

SPEAKER_07 (42:21):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (42:22):
Now, the other ones that are in the top ten, you're
like, I don't think I've heardthis song before.

SPEAKER_07 (42:28):
I haven't heard of it.
It's in the top ten.

SPEAKER_06 (42:30):
I haven't heard Darlin.
Okay, spot number two.

SPEAKER_01 (42:36):
Two.
Wait.

SPEAKER_06 (42:37):
Oh.
Jelly roll with heart of stone.

SPEAKER_01 (42:42):
You go jelly.

SPEAKER_06 (42:44):
That's the only one.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (42:46):
Tiffany doesn't like you.

SPEAKER_06 (42:48):
It's just eh.
It's mid, like the kids say.
They say mid.
Yeah.
It's mid.
Big fan of jelly roll, but heartof stone.
And spot number one.
Good old roll.

SPEAKER_07 (43:03):
Happened to me.

SPEAKER_06 (43:10):
You're going to edge me button this week.
All right.
Indie charts.
Are you ready, Jay?

SPEAKER_01 (43:17):
No.
Well.
Number 10.

SPEAKER_06 (43:20):
It's coming at you.
Single of the year by MaddieTrue.

SPEAKER_01 (43:25):
Maddie, True Blue Music.

SPEAKER_06 (43:27):
I'm going to say it.
Okay.
We got spot number nine.
It's a new one.
Tow Truck Driver by WaylandHannel.

SPEAKER_01 (43:40):
Waylon Hannel music.
It's the publishing.
That's not the record company.

SPEAKER_06 (43:47):
Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 (43:48):
He owns his publishing.

SPEAKER_06 (43:50):
Because he's indie.
And that also means he has morefreedom and he probably is
happier with his end product.

SPEAKER_01 (43:56):
There you go.

SPEAKER_06 (43:58):
Okay.
Let's talk about spot numbereight.
Is there anything significantabout eight, Jay?
Crew members?
Do y'all know?

SPEAKER_01 (44:13):
I don't know.
It is a good looking numberthough.

SPEAKER_06 (44:17):
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Well, it is Jay's favoritenumber.
Number eight, leaving Louisianain the broad daylight.
So you don't have to hide and gocheat.
You just leave Louisiana in thebroad daylight.
It is by Flat River Bandfeaturing the Oak Ridge Boys.

SPEAKER_01 (44:36):
The Oaks.
The mighty Oaks.

SPEAKER_06 (44:39):
And number seven is baptized in it by the Hagods.
The Haguns.
Spot number six is I Don't KnowHow to Say Goodbye.
Bang Bang Boom Boom.
Dwight Yoakum, Post Malone.
This one slid two spots.
It was four.
Now it's in spot six.
But I think it's been on thechart for a couple weeks.

SPEAKER_01 (45:01):
It's been up there, yes, ma'am.

SPEAKER_06 (45:03):
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Spot number five, you were thereby Thompson Square.

SPEAKER_01 (45:11):
Oh, just gonna let it go.

SPEAKER_06 (45:14):
Okay.
And spot number four is CountryBoy by Randy Cobb.
I need to check that one out.
Okay, ready?

SPEAKER_01 (45:23):
Oh.

SPEAKER_06 (45:23):
Spot number three.
No, no, spot number three.

SPEAKER_01 (45:26):
Oh, why are you telling me to get ready?
Oh, I see.
Go ahead.
Let's see if you can pull itoff.

SPEAKER_08 (45:32):
Turn the night on by Chris Kizia.

SPEAKER_01 (45:37):
Close enough.
Kizia.

SPEAKER_06 (45:39):
Kizia.
And spot number two, read by JetJergensmeyer.

SPEAKER_01 (45:45):
Jergensmeyer.

SPEAKER_06 (45:46):
Oh.
And spot number two.

SPEAKER_01 (45:50):
Oh.

unknown (45:53):
Damn it.

SPEAKER_06 (45:55):
Read by Jet Jergensmeyer.
And spot number one, hide and gocheat by Eric Lee Cuttingfield.
Yeah.
Eh.
It's had enough applause.

SPEAKER_01 (46:12):
Speaking of hide and go cheat, I'm mad at your
mother.

SPEAKER_06 (46:15):
Yeah, I know.
She I asked her if she was gonnatune in tonight.

SPEAKER_01 (46:19):
Not even about that.
No.

SPEAKER_06 (46:21):
Oh, oh, oh.

SPEAKER_01 (46:22):
Mad at her.
She sent me a message today.
Oh yeah?
Yeah, she she sends me messages.
Wow.
But she was busting my cookies.
Oh.
She told me go Yankees.

SPEAKER_09 (46:36):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (46:37):
And laughed about it.

SPEAKER_06 (46:39):
Yeah.
Yeah, they're pretty big diehardYankee fans.

SPEAKER_01 (46:45):
Oh, they are for real?

SPEAKER_06 (46:46):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (46:47):
Oh, I thought she was messing with me.

SPEAKER_06 (46:49):
No, mm-mm.

SPEAKER_01 (46:50):
Just to be fair for everybody listening, it's Go
Socks.
Boston red socks.

SPEAKER_06 (46:57):
Can I ask a question?
I mean, this is gonna put me ina very vulnerable spot, but I'm
gonna do it.
Oh yeah, you get there.
Why are their uniforms green?

SPEAKER_01 (47:09):
It's just a novelty uniform.

SPEAKER_06 (47:12):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (47:13):
And Boston is a very Irish town.
Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (47:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (47:18):
Green is a Boston color.

SPEAKER_06 (47:22):
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I was like, that does not seemright.

SPEAKER_01 (47:26):
Yeah, they wore yellow a few times too.
But no, typically red.
Yeah.
Red, gray, white.

SPEAKER_06 (47:34):
That makes more sense.
These songs are on the website.
So if you go to jfranzie.com andyou click on the drop-down menu.
Oh, I thought you were gonna doit.

SPEAKER_01 (47:46):
I thought you were gonna get it.
jfranzi.com slash countdown.

SPEAKER_06 (47:50):
Yeah.
You look for the drop down menuand it says country countdown.
And it will have all the songsthere for you, and you can
listen to all of them.

SPEAKER_01 (47:58):
Yep.
jfranzi.com slash countdown.
Or you can use the menu eitherway.
Whatever works for you.
Let's move on to the mailbag.

SPEAKER_06 (48:10):
Yes, and where if somebody hears these and they're
like, wow, I'd like to give mytwo cents.
How would they do that, Jay?

SPEAKER_01 (48:16):
I don't know if I want to tell you.
Because I told you last time andwe got a lot of responses.
You go to jfranzi.com slashmailbag.
Or you can go to the pull downmenu.
Or you can send your emails to jat jfranzi.com.

SPEAKER_06 (48:34):
You don't have to pull the menu down, it just
drops down.

SPEAKER_01 (48:37):
Okay, either way, it's a menu.
Bent a website before, I'm sureyou figured out to use it.
jfranzi.com slash mailbag.
Send me an email, j atjfranzi.com.
Smoke signals.
Whatever.
All right, let's move on.
Mailbag.

SPEAKER_07 (48:57):
Mailbag.

SPEAKER_01 (48:58):
All right.
What do we got?
I have not read these.

SPEAKER_04 (49:02):
Oh wow.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (49:04):
Melissa.
Thank you for writing in,Melissa.
She says, I've been listeningfor months now, and the show
just keeps getting better.

SPEAKER_06 (49:12):
Ah, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 (49:14):
Thank you, Melissa.

SPEAKER_06 (49:16):
We aim to please.

SPEAKER_01 (49:18):
Jessica.
Jay, your dry humor cracks me upon every episode.
You sneak those one-liners in,they go by, and I don't notice
them.
And then when I do figure itout, it makes me laugh out loud.

SPEAKER_08 (49:34):
Love that.
I love a delayed, like likeshe's saying, you know, like and
then you kind of laugh atyourself that it took you a
minute to get what they justsaid.
I love that.

SPEAKER_01 (49:45):
Hannah.

SPEAKER_08 (49:46):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (49:47):
That's your daughter.

SPEAKER_08 (49:49):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (49:50):
It's not your daughter because she's got an H.

SPEAKER_04 (49:53):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (49:54):
Sorry.
Hanna Drum.
Sorry, I did it again.
I don't think it's the same,Hannah.

SPEAKER_04 (49:58):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 (49:59):
It might be.
It probably is.
Sorry, Hannah.
I did it.
Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 (50:04):
Oops.
He did it again.
He played with your name.
Oh dear God, stop.

SPEAKER_01 (50:13):
Hannah says Tiffany is the perfect balance to Jay.
Where he's laid back, she's highenergy.
And that chemistry makes thisshow work.

SPEAKER_08 (50:25):
Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 (50:28):
See, and she was nice and I still screwed up.
Sarah says production quality isunreal.

SPEAKER_09 (50:37):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (50:38):
Oh, it's all Tiffany.

SPEAKER_09 (50:39):
It's all Tiffany.

SPEAKER_01 (50:40):
Virtually you.
Paul says, Jay, you've workedwith so many legends.
When are we going to hear morestudio stories?

SPEAKER_06 (50:52):
Yeah, I think we should do a studio story episode
too.

SPEAKER_01 (50:55):
Nope, sorry.

SPEAKER_06 (50:56):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (50:57):
Sure.
I'd be happy to do that as well.

SPEAKER_05 (51:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (51:02):
Greg says, Greg says, Tiffany's laugh should be
a ringtone.

SPEAKER_07 (51:09):
Wow.
Clip that sound bite and make ityour ringtone, Jay.
No.

SPEAKER_01 (51:18):
It would be more like an alarm.

SPEAKER_08 (51:21):
My husband used to have a ringtone and it would go,
Bok, Bok, Bok, Bok, Bok, Bok,Bok, and it said the wife.

SPEAKER_01 (51:30):
All right.
Everybody laughs at me becauseif you're in the car with me and
my wife calls, it comes up onthe screen and says the best
wife ever.
My wife programmed it, and thenI changed it back to her name,
and she got mad.
So guess what?
It's back as the best wife ever.
Well, Tommy says this mailbagsegment has become my favorite.

(51:55):
Hearing what other listenershave to say makes this feel like
a real community.
Rick says every time Jay talksproduction, I learn something
new.
Can we have more gear talk,please?

SPEAKER_06 (52:09):
Me too.
Although, didn't you write abook about gear talk?

SPEAKER_01 (52:14):
I have no idea what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_06 (52:16):
Don't you have a book about production?

SPEAKER_01 (52:20):
I do, yes, ma'am.

SPEAKER_06 (52:21):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (52:22):
JayFrenzy.com slash books.

SPEAKER_06 (52:25):
Is there a drop-down menu for that?

SPEAKER_01 (52:28):
Try to make it easy, folks.
Oh Lee.
Lee says Tiffany is the voice ofthe audience on this show.
Brian says Jay is awesome.
Tiffany keeps things fresh andfun.

SPEAKER_07 (52:47):
Jay is awesome.

SPEAKER_01 (52:49):
I'll take it, but you know, they always have to
include you and give you creditor something.

SPEAKER_06 (52:54):
They just don't want me to feel left out.

SPEAKER_01 (52:56):
Is that what it is?
I think they're just humoringme.

SPEAKER_06 (52:59):
They don't want you to feel left out either.

SPEAKER_01 (53:03):
What is going on with you this week?

SPEAKER_06 (53:07):
Well, I am going to share what's going on with me
this week, but first of all, Ithought I just finished.
Huh?

SPEAKER_01 (53:15):
You can't do two things.

SPEAKER_06 (53:17):
Yeah, I can do whatever I want.
I'm the chick.

SPEAKER_01 (53:22):
The top fledge chick.
There you go.

SPEAKER_06 (53:26):
Okay.
Well, I'm going to flip thescript a little bit.
I'm going to take the libertiesand pull rank.
That's funny.

SPEAKER_01 (53:34):
Whose rank?

SPEAKER_06 (53:35):
Pull rank on you.
Okay.
And we're going to talk aboutyour little book.
Oh.
You wrote this book, Stand Outor Fade Out.
Strategies for Standing Out inNashville.
And I was like, okay, great.
Jay wrote a book.
I want to read it.
Oh my gosh.
I was so impressed.
I was so impressed, you guys.
This is something I was going tosay at the end.

(53:56):
And I think this is freakinggenius.
At the back of the book, it'sother books you've written.
So if the reader reads this bookand then they go, Oh, holy crap,
this guy really knows what he'stalking about.
Then he goes, I wonder ifthey've written other books.
I do think they're going to saythat.

(54:17):
So if you are an artist tryingto figure it out and get your
poop in a group and stand out inNashville, this really is a
pretty comprehensive manual.
So I loved that in each chapteryou went further than I was
expecting, and extra layers andpractical steps.
So it was like, do this, but notjust do this.

(54:39):
I think in this day and age thatpeople are looking for how to
apply the information that welearn because we have a lot of
information at our fingertipsnow.
But it's like, how do weincorporate that into our lives?
And this was so great.
If I was trying to make itnatural, I mean, like you just
flip to whatever chapter youneed, like, oh, I need better

(55:00):
marketing.
And you just flip to marketingand it's just right there.
I just I really thought it wasso good.
I really thought it was so good.
I thought it was good that youspelled out the industry terms
like EP, demo, distributor,pitching.
I didn't know EPK, electronicpress kit.

(55:20):
And I knew an EP was a shortersampling of music, but honestly,
I thought it was one song.
It stands for extended play,which I learned in the Jay
Franzi standout or fade outbook.
And so many things that Ithought, even if you were to
read this book and you're nottrying to make it in Nashville,

(55:42):
it would help you to advanceyour small business.
Because a lot of the things thatartists have to do, in my
viewpoint, I feel like an artistis an entrepreneur.
They are their product, they aretheir business, and they've got
to figure out how to make itthrive and survive.
Walk me through like why did youput it in that format, or why

(56:06):
did that make sense to you?
Or I don't know, like you didsuch a great job like getting to
the point.
I feel like sometimes I'm like,I could never write a book
because you got to talk aboutthe same thing 18 times.
And that is not what happens inthis book.

SPEAKER_01 (56:21):
I used to be a teacher at the college and our
classes would be four hourslong.
And I had the hardest timemaking a class last four hours
long.
Because the syllabus would besomething you can get through in
20 minutes.

SPEAKER_06 (56:39):
The whole syllabus for the whole class?

SPEAKER_01 (56:40):
No, for whatever class you're teaching that.
Whatever topic.
Teaching this topic for thenight, you probably get through
it in 20 minutes, and you'resupposed to make it last for
four hours.
And if people do that, you'rejust wasting time.
I would rather just get straightto the point and then let's go
ahead and discuss how we canapply those things.
So rather than wasting time forme to say the same thing three

(57:02):
or four different ways, I wouldrather just get to the point,
say, this is it, this is whatwe're doing.
And then let's go ahead anddiscuss how we could apply that
when we're in the studio, or howcan we apply that when we're
putting a tour together, or likeyou said, running a small
business.
You can apply it to anything.
We talk about the music industryall the time and what it's like

(57:23):
in Nashville, but these areprinciples that apply to any
business anywhere, any person.
I look at these as more of youknow personal branding.
It's how do you how do you makeyourself stand out from
everybody else?

SPEAKER_06 (57:35):
Mm-hmm.
And I love also that you talkedabout mindset.
So you were very direct towardsthe reader.
And I had ChatGPT summarize allI had all these notes that I had
taken while I was reading it.
And it said, you appreciated hisdirectness towards artists with
a quote unquote chip on theirshoulder attitude, reminding

(57:56):
them that it's not just abouttalent, but consistency,
reinvention, and relationships.
And that is the same thing insmall business.
It's about that consistency,constantly showing up.
You know, I think every artistthat we interview says, I hate
the social media aspect, but myPR says I got to do more social
media.
It's that consistency piece.

SPEAKER_01 (58:17):
Yeah, it's how you connect with people.
They want to think of you asbeing reliable.
We always say that you want themto know, like, and trust you.

SPEAKER_05 (58:26):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (58:26):
And that trust part comes from the consistency part.
So you have to be consistent,whether that's showing up when
you say you're gonna show up,whether that's producing the
best show you can produce,whether that's producing the
best record you could produce.
You want to be consistent.
You want to do your best work atall times.
But there's so much more thanjust that.

(58:47):
Your image in general has to beconsistent.
Your website has to beconsistent, your social media
has to be consistent.
What I'm talking about is thesimple things like your profile
picture.
Let's make it fit who you'retrying to be.
Let's make it consistent acrossall of your platforms.
So if I go from your website toyour Instagram to your Facebook

(59:08):
to TikTok, I know that I'mworking with the same person.
And the quality level needs tobe consistent because I want to
know that if I go to yourInstagram page and it's amazing,
and then I go to your TikTok andit looks like garbage, you know,
that's wrong.
I want to know that I can go toone and then to the other and
it's gonna be just as good.
And then I know if I go see youperform live, that you're gonna

(59:30):
put that kind of pride andeffort into your show when
you're performing live.

SPEAKER_06 (59:34):
Well, and I like that you gave some real life
examples.
Uh, I think it was a PR firm,but somebody who was trying to
promote themselves, PR firm wentto the website and they were
like, no, and never went back.
Opportunity missed.

SPEAKER_01 (59:47):
Oh, absolutely.
This is one thing that I madecertain to do.
I try to do it in a lot of thebooks that I've written, but I
try to include personal storiesso that you can tie in the
concepts.
So So you're not just hearing aconcept, you're hearing a
concept, you're learning how toapply that concept, and then
you're hearing a story of eitherwhere that concept came from,

(01:00:08):
why we're talking about it, orwhat we can do to put it into to
use, what came of something.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:14):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:15):
And I just went back and picked stories of people
that I've worked with orsessions that I've been on, or
tours, or any of that type ofstuff.
And we're just using thesethings as examples.
But I think using real lifeexamples ties it together and
makes it a lot easier tounderstand.
And we talk about that now whenall these artists are breaking

(01:00:37):
it on TikTok.
You know, they don't just havethe one viral video that made
people love them.
They put together a solid pageand consistent posts and great
content, and then things goviral.
And that's when the recordlabels take notice.
It's the viral video that madethem come to your profile and

(01:00:58):
check you out.
But it's everything else you'vedone that lands you the gig.

SPEAKER_06 (01:01:04):
I love too that you brought up that you can do a
cover of another song and getsome popularity, and then you
release one of your originals.
And I was like, oh, what greatstrategy.
That makes total sense.
Like get people to warm up andthen, you know, spring some new

(01:01:24):
material on them.
And same thing with like theseTikTok and viral videos, they
lay the groundwork, I think iswhat I'm getting at.
You know, like you had a goodmessage of what kind of
groundwork are you puttingbefore you try to make it big or
have that viral video or havethat single go crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:43):
Yeah, you can utilize other people's work, in
this case, cover tunes.
You're not going to go in thestudio and you're not going to
record an entire record of covertunes.
You could, but you're not goingto do that.
What you're going to do is justrecord a, you know, piece of a
chorus or 30 seconds of the songthat people are familiar with,
and then you're posting it, andthat's grappling the attention

(01:02:05):
of the casual viewer, and it'smaking them stop.
So you're stopping the scroll,as they say, to capture that one
video.
And then if you like it, thenthat person's now going to go to
your profile and see what elseyou have.
And there might be anothercouple few clips of other songs
out of the cover tunes you'reworking on.

(01:02:25):
But most likely at that point,they're going to now go check
out your original music.
And a good example of that,previous guest on the show,
Alex.
Alex does a really good job ofthat.
So she releases clips of hersinging other songs, but then
draws people to her page, whichthen they get to see her
original music.

(01:02:46):
And Gina Fritz, another one thatdoes that great job of utilizing
cover tunes to grab attentionand make people stop.
And then it brings them to herprofile, which then they get to
listen to their music.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:00):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I I really thought it wasamazing.
I also liked because youunderstand the role of a
producer and you understand therole of an engineer and how they
can kind of make or break thecareer as well.
You said, you know, how can anartist recognize when a producer
is simply getting the job doneversus when they can actually

(01:03:21):
elevate the artist's sound whilestaying true to their voice?
So do you want to speak a littlebit to that?
Because I know that you'repretty hands-on with that
concept.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:31):
A good producer can make or break an artist for
sure.
A good engineer can make orbreak a record for sure.
Now, the way that works is anengineer has to know the basics.
They have to have a minimumamount of experience and
knowledge to run the equipment.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:48):
I have to interrupt you super fast.
I'm so sorry.
I think that you did a good jobof weaving in a little bit of
humor.
And one of the things that youweaved in humor about was like,
just because your friend has alaptop that can do it doesn't
mean that that's the rightperson to be producing your
music.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:05):
We used to say that all the time.
We used to give our students alaptop, join the school, they
get a laptop with a Pro Toolsystem.
And that was a big deal at thetime when we were doing that.
And we used to tell them, look,just because you have a laptop
and a pro tool system does notmake you an engineer.
Means you have equipment.
It's like saying you're abaseball player because you have

(01:04:26):
a bat and glove.
It doesn't work that way.
You have to know how to use thatbat and glove.
It's the same thing with anengineer.
So an engineer, they learn thebasic level to be an engineer
and to be able to do all of thethings an engineer can do.
But then there's people who takeit to the next level.
And that's not just knowing theequipment and knowing what to
press and stuff, it's knowingwhy and when in creative

(01:04:50):
decisions versus technicaldecisions.
So if I use this piece ofequipment, it's going to sound
better or it's going to soundmore like what the artist is
looking for.
So if you're working with aproducer and they say, I want
this to sound warmer, okay,well, then let me use this piece
of equipment over here becauseit's maybe a tube compressor or
tube preamp.

(01:05:10):
And it's knowing those thingsand being able to be creative.
So that's the engineer side ofthe world, but the producer side
of the world, I always ask whenwe're interviewing people or
having these conversations, whattype of producer were they?
How did they work in the studio?

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:26):
Because there's so many different types of
producers.
You can be a producer where youjust walk in and tell people
what you want done.
You know, a record label hiresproducers typically.

SPEAKER_06 (01:05:37):
Okay.
Do they usually work with oneproducer or they work with
multiple producers?

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:43):
They would potentially have a few producers
that they they work with.
Everything in Nashville is inlittle small groups.
There's three or four producerspeople like to work with,
there's three or four guitarplayers people like to work
with.
But the producer, you know, theycome in with the record labels,
you know, they're the onespaying, so it's the record

(01:06:03):
label's vision of what they'retrying to accomplish.
So if the record label says,look, I want this to sound like
Laney Wilson, then the producerwill go in and hire the
musicians and give them all theguidance and say, This is to
sound like a Laney Wilsonrecord.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:22):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:23):
And they will perform it and they will do
exactly what that producer says.
So that's one way of doing it.
Hands off.
You know, I'm just tellingeverybody what needs to be done.
The next producer might be alittle bit more hands-on and
might be able to do some of theengineering work or might have
more creative input.
So that's another way.
So it could be more of aproducer engineer where they're

(01:06:46):
sitting there.
That's more of what I would do.
I would run a console and tellpeople what I want done.

SPEAKER_07 (01:06:52):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:52):
Then there's another type of producer where they're
the person who can do the thingsbut can't run the equipment, or
typically don't run theequipment.
So they can play guitar, theycan play keyboards, they can
play multiple instruments.
So they can physically producethe record with the instruments.
So they'll either tell the bandwhat to play, they might pick up

(01:07:14):
a guitar and show them what toplay, or they might just play
the guitar on the record.
So, yes, there's the producerwho dictates as a producer kind
of hybrid with an engineer, andthen there's a producer who does
the actual work.
And then there's even a producerthat just sits back and does
nothing and just take takescredit.
Tells the engineer and themusicians, you know, go ahead
and make this record, and theysit back and say, Yeah, that's

(01:07:36):
good.
So yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (01:07:39):
Well, my overall impression was just like
seriously super blown away.
I'm not saying that just becauseI know you.
I don't know what I would say ifI didn't like it.
I'm not very good at disguisingmy feelings.

unknown (01:07:51):
Nice.

SPEAKER_08 (01:07:52):
If my mouth doesn't say it, my face normally does.

SPEAKER_06 (01:07:55):
So I thought it was really cool that like you you go
through each chapter, you readall these things, you get
practical ways to apply theinformation that you've just
learned.
And then gold, there's a 30-dayaction plan in the back.
So if you read it and you werelike, okay, now I gotta put some

(01:08:15):
of these things into practice,there was a free resource guide.
So you cite multiple sites wherepeople can, like when you were
talking about Canva and artwork,and there were ways to record
things, like you just cited awhole bunch of things.
And I thought, okay, when I'mdone reading this book, well,
actually, when I was abouthalfway through, I was like, I
should start writing down allthese resources.
I'm like, this is so good.

(01:08:35):
And then I got to the end of thebook and I was like, oh my gosh,
he has a whole resource guideback here.
So everything that you cited,there's a whole list, like just
add your fingertips at the back,like you already did the work
for the people, like so smart.
And then you included the pastbooks.
I thought that that was supersmart because maybe you're

(01:08:55):
reading and maybe they're like,Yeah, I do want to apply this to
my business.
And it's like I said, sometimesyou finish a book by an author
and you're like, I like how thisperson wrote, or I like the
directness, or you know, I mean,this book is so easy to read.
Oh my gosh, you're just turningpages, which I'm a super slow
reader.
And so it made me feel like Iwas flying through the book.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:15):
I'm a super slow reader.

SPEAKER_08 (01:09:18):
And it's so it really made me feel good about
myself.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:21):
I have to write the book in the way that I think.
Matter of fact, the very firstbook I ever wrote was a book
called Pro Tools A to Z while Iwas teaching at the college, and
my students were nice enough topurchase my book.
And one of the students in classone day said, I can hear your
voice when I'm reading thisbook.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:41):
Because I literally write the book the way I would
talk to you.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:46):
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:47):
And including whatever wise ass comments I'm
thinking of.
Who was that comment on my wiseass comments tonight?
I don't know.
I don't know.
So good.
Who was it?
So good.

SPEAKER_06 (01:09:58):
I just like seriously cannot say enough.
I mean, like, you were tough,but you were encouraging towards
the artists who think that theycould just waltz right in if
they were good looking or theyhad a good voice, they thought
they were gonna make it.
Maybe not, maybe not, because somuch, right?

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:16):
Jessica.
Jessica said that.

SPEAKER_06 (01:10:18):
Jessica, yeah, the wise cracks.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:21):
Yes, yes.
There's so many things that ittakes for an artist to truly
make it, and most don't.

SPEAKER_06 (01:10:28):
Well, and honestly, I mean, I feel like we're
looking for manuals in life,right?
Like we're looking for a manualhow to run your house, we're
looking for a manual, how to bea parent, looking for a manual,
how to be in a marriage.
If you are trying to make it inyour career as an artist, this
is really a no-brainer manual.

(01:10:49):
Literally read this book andstand out, or don't read it and
fade out.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:56):
Says it right there in the title.

SPEAKER_06 (01:10:58):
I know.
I can't express enough howimpressed I really truly was.
And I love that you includedprevious guests that you've had.
You even put little bios inthere.
Like, you are such a class act,it kills me.
I just, I, I just, I was justimpressed.
I don't know what else to say.
I don't know how you got allthat information into this book,

(01:11:19):
but this is literally if you'retrying to make it in Nashville
as an artist or maybe in anotherfield.
This will tell you how to standout.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:27):
It's about the person, it's not about the the
craft they're practicing.
Canvas what you was used to doartwork.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:35):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:35):
You know, Canva is a free online tool, and it's so
powerful, people don't even useit to anything close to what
it's worth.
I mean, I I use it every day.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:47):
I do too.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:48):
My wife is a professional graphic artist and
photographer.
She grew up on Adobe products,Photoshop, Illustrator, all
those things.
And now when she needs somethingindependent, she goes to Canva.

SPEAKER_07 (01:12:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:02):
And she logs into my account and ruins up my ruins my
whole folder system.
Uh but yes, Canva is verypowerful.
But it is, it's about how anindividual makes it through an
industry.
And this particular example isjust uh the music industry, but
it's how to stand out, how tomake yourself different.

(01:12:23):
You know, we talked on the showthe story about the intern who
painted the wall and stood up.

SPEAKER_07 (01:12:28):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:29):
So I put that story in the book.
That is one of the examples ofwhat you need to do.
He could have just sat there andplayed video games in the studio
with all the other interns, andnobody would have ever noticed
or said a word, nobody yelled athim, nobody would have cared.
Yeah.
But he didn't.
He opened up his computer, heworked on Pro Tools in the in

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the lobby, and then wheneverybody went home and he was
the only one left in thebuilding, he picked up a
paintbrush and finished paintingthe walls of the studio.
And that made him stand out.
Standing out is what got him thegay working for one of the
biggest producers in the world.

SPEAKER_06 (01:13:04):
Well, I think you should finish that story because
just hearing that he painted thewall, it could leave you being
like, why did that make himstand out?
So finish that story.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:13):
He was a student of mine.
He asked me if I can get him aninternship.
I said, sure, he had a specificstudio in mind.
So I called that studio, I gothim an internship.
He showed up, and all of theinterns were just playing video
games, which is common.
It's something they did and theywait to be called on.
So they play video games, andthen the producer will say, Hey,
can you go get us food?

(01:13:34):
And they'll run and get food,you know, before DoorDash was a
thing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:38):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:38):
Hey, can you go in the bathroom and clean the
toilet server mess?
Whatever.
That's what the job of theintern was.
So he went over there and he wasdisappointed.
And he came back to the schoolthe next day and said he wasn't
gonna go back.
And I asked him why, he told methat whole story, and I just
made the suggestion take thecomputer we gave you, go sit at
the front desk, open it up, workon the laptop, do a school

(01:14:02):
project.
I don't care.
Just show that you're working onthe industry software.
And he did.
And then they asked him to workthe night shift.
He came back disappointed againbecause nobody was gonna be in
the building.
It was just gonna be him.
So I told him just stick to theplan.
And he went there and he stuckto the plan.

(01:14:22):
Now he took things a stepfurther on his own with no
guidance from me.
He went in there, he sat at thedesk.
When everybody went home, therewas a painter who left at around
five o'clock, and he got halfwaythrough painting this wall.
And this intern, a student ofmine, picked up the paintbrush
and finished painting the wall.

(01:14:44):
And when he finished paintingthe wall, happened to be one
person left in the studio.
It was the studio owner, whohappened to be one of the
world's largest producers.
He walked through the studio,said goodnight, and left.
But the next day, that producerasked the studio manager, How
did you get the painter to staylast night?
And he goes, I he didn't.

(01:15:05):
He left before I did.
So found out who it was, and thenext night the producer, the
owner of the studio, went up tothe intern and said, Hey, who
asked you to paint the wall?
And he said, Nobody.
He goes, Well, why'd you do it?
He said, I wanted to beproductive.

(01:15:26):
And that guy was so impressed bythat that he offered him the
opportunity to come sit in on asession and see what a real
session was like.
So he did.
And when he did, he didn't justleave it at that.
He went a step further.
He anticipated what thatproducer needed, because that
was a producer who was also anengineer.

(01:15:46):
So he produced and engineered.
So he was very, very busy whenhe was in that studio.
He could not be interrupted.
This intern sat there in theback of the room and
anticipated.
So he would go get what heneeded before he needed it.
He'd have it ready for him.
If they needed a new microphoneplaced out there, if they were
gonna have a guitar player jointhe session, he would go set up

(01:16:08):
the microphone.
He would do it all before beingasked.
And that producer again, beingso impressed with this guy, he
hired him as his assistant on afull-time basis.

SPEAKER_06 (01:16:19):
Love it.
Love it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:20):
To me, those are the things that make people stand
out.

SPEAKER_06 (01:16:24):
Well, you know, I was reading another book about
branding, and they were saying,you know, what do you think is
more important, results orreputation?
And they basically shortened itdown to saying you would think
results, right?
So we would think like thesepeople that are making it big
have all these pre-qualifiersthat they've met certain
milestones.

(01:16:44):
And they said, no, it's actuallyreputation.
So it's what people think ofyou.
Perception is what is reality.
And so I think that's a lot ofwhat your book says is how do
you get people to perceive youas already bigger than what you
are?
Mindset, tough love, resources,like it was just hands-down,

(01:17:06):
fantastic, easy read that Iwould recommend everybody to go
out and get a copy.
Oh, and if they get one on thewebsite, you'll sign up for
them, right?

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:16):
I will.
And the reason for that is notjust for my sake.
The book, it's dedicated to mydaughter who's going through a
medical challenge.
And if you buy the book off thewebsite, the money goes directly
to my daughter, to her fund.
For example, she needs a servicedog, she just got the service

(01:17:38):
dog and the training and allthis stuff.
It's going to pay for all ofthat.
That's a very expensive processthat is not covered by
insurance.
It was like$30,000 for this forthis dog in the training.
So if you buy the book from thewebsite, 100% of the money just
goes to my daughter for thatpurpose.

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:56):
Pretty cool.
Love it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:58):
But to take your comment a step further about
what people think of you, thereputation, yeah.
The key thing is it's whatpeople think about you and what
people say about you when youare not around.

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:11):
That's what matters most.
That's what branding truly is.
I know branding gets a bad rap,the word branding, but all it
means is reputation.
What is your reputation sayingabout you when you are not
around?
When you leave, what are peoplein the boardroom saying about
you?
When you leave, what are peoplein the studio saying about you?
What are people on the stagesaying about you?
Or the venue hall?

(01:18:33):
Everybody has an idea, aperception of who you are.
That matters more than anything.
So, like you said, yes, youcould be the person that gets
results, but if you're a crappyperson that gets results, nobody
wants to be around you.

SPEAKER_09 (01:18:47):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:47):
Or if you're stepping on everybody around you
to get results, then nobody'sgonna want to be around you.

SPEAKER_06 (01:18:56):
And nobody's gonna support you to get to the next
step.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:59):
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (01:18:59):
You're gonna have to tread water that much harder
just to get upstream.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:03):
Personally, I don't believe in that.
I think you get what you get inlife by what you help other
people get.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:10):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:11):
So we do the show, we don't just do it for our own
sake.
We like doing it, it's fun.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:16):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:17):
But we do it to promote other artists.
We do it to promote the artiststhat come on our show.

SPEAKER_04 (01:19:23):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:24):
That's that's the value of the show.
It's not for us, it's for them.

SPEAKER_06 (01:19:28):
Yep.
All right.
Well, when you're not writingbooks this weekend, what are you
gonna be doing?
Or this week?

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:37):
Well, this week.
This has been a very busy week.
Yes.
As you can tell tonight, we'reuh doing a show on a Thursday.
That's because we had alast-minute booking because this
was an artist who had verylimited time and we wanted to
talk to him.
So this artist, Johnny James,came on.
He's on the road, he's touringaround, so we had an opportunity

(01:20:00):
to get him on, and we didn'twant to pass that opportunity.
As a matter of fact, he was intown last week, and I had a
chance to see him play live overat Laurie's Roadhouse, one of my
favorite venues.
And it was a great show.
I brought my daughter Lucy, themiddle child, the one that seems
to go to all these shows.
I I don't do it on purpose, Iswear I don't.

SPEAKER_06 (01:20:22):
I do hear stories he offers to the other children.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:24):
I do offer to a matter of fact, well, Bella.
I took Bella, yeah, I can't takethe baby just yet.
Yeah, I did take Bella to seeHailstorm on multiple occasions
now.
But Lucy, I took her to seeJohnny James over at Laurie's
Roadhouse.
So we talked to him last night.
One of the things we talkedabout was his his um performance
at Laurie's Roadhouse.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:46):
But that night there were over a hundred, hundred and
fifty bikers.
I mean, there was some benefitor something for this group of
people.
And my daughter, we showed upand there were so many
motorcycles, and all we could dois look at all the motorcycles
because they all have likeartwork.
Some of them are just beautiful.
Yes.

(01:21:06):
And they, you know, they paintthe gas tanks and stuff.
It was it was like going to acar show.

SPEAKER_09 (01:21:11):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:12):
So before we got in there to the venue, we went
around and looked at all thebikes.
Then we go in the venue, andthen there's all the the bikers,
and they just think she's thegreatest thing ever because
she's tiny.
And then Johnny James gets up onstage, he's performing, me and
my daughter are watching.
We get again great seats, thankyou, Johnny.

(01:21:33):
And we're right up front, and hecan see my daughter, and there's
line dancing going on, and itwas just fun.
But then halfway through, hecomes off the stage and walks
right up to my daughter andhands her a guitar pick and
tells her, Hey, I don't know ifthis is your first concert or
not.
Little does he know.
Yeah, I don't know if this isyour first concert or not, but I

(01:21:54):
want you to have this.
And he gave her a guitar pick,just the nicest thing ever.
Yeah.
In the middle of his hisperformance.
And he ran back up on stage andfinished.
I was like, okay.
My daughter's like, How did howdid he know to do that?
But it was just fun.
He was great.
So we had that opportunity tosee him, and we had him on the

(01:22:15):
show last night, which was avery, very fun night, a very
good conversation.

SPEAKER_06 (01:22:20):
Agreed, solid dude.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:21):
And then Monday night, we also had a very what I
will call entertaininginterview.
He was definitely a character,Eugene Rice from the band
American Mile, the lead singerof American Mile, lead singer,
guitar player.
He was animated.
He was, which made things somuch fun.

SPEAKER_08 (01:22:44):
Yeah, yeah.
He was he was fun.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:46):
So I believe his episode will be out tomorrow.

SPEAKER_08 (01:22:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:51):
He'll be out tomorrow.
And Johnny James will be outMonday.

SPEAKER_06 (01:22:55):
So yeah, that's awesome.
I'm looking forward.
He's actually coincidentallygonna be very close to me on
Tuesday night.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:02):
So we planned that.
We told him he had to do it.

SPEAKER_06 (01:23:06):
He's actually from a town right by me, and so his dad
was like, You gotta playsomething when you're down here.
So he's gonna be playing in thepicture set, and I will be there
front and center, checking itout.
Looks like a good time.
And he's got a great voice.
It's just that much moreentertaining, and I'm just like
I'm always proud of them, like aproud mom, you know.

(01:23:26):
Like, you're doing out there,you know.
I just feel excited for them.
So it feels good to go supporthim.
You have to send a link uplounge always every Tuesday.
So good freebie on there fornetworking if anybody's
interested.
And next week I have Jamescoming out, the author of Purple

(01:23:48):
Rain.
So he did like a life of Princekind of thing.
So that'll be out next Thursday,but I think this weekend we got
busy family stuff going on.
So that's what we're up to.
What else are you doing thisweekend?
Anything else?
Any more music?

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:05):
Before we we leave the topic, you say
coincidentally, Johnny's gonnabe down in that area and
performing at this bar orwhatever it is.
Local pub.
Local pub.

SPEAKER_06 (01:24:17):
Local locals pub.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:19):
Locals pub.
It's not that coincidental orcoincidental because he owns a
whiskey company.
And I'm sure he's down therepromoting whiskey at this this
bar.

SPEAKER_06 (01:24:32):
I don't know if he is.
I think that he's bringing somedown for his dad because his
parents still live down here.
So I think he was bringing itdown for that because I said,
would I be able to find itsomewhere here in Florida?
And he said, Next week you can.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:46):
Right.
He's coming down to promote it.

SPEAKER_06 (01:24:48):
Yeah, I guess.
Maybe we'll find out.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:51):
We'll see.

SPEAKER_06 (01:24:52):
But I know he's bringing some, and I know I'm
getting to get to try some, soI'm excited about that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:57):
Yes, I'm very interested in trying it as well.
Not just because it's whiskeyand I would like to try it.
Living here in Kentucky, I trywhiskey or bourbon all the time.
I bet you do.

SPEAKER_06 (01:25:07):
I bet you do.

SPEAKER_01 (01:25:08):
And I never did before I moved here.
It's just like the thing, it'slike, hello, nice to meet you.
Want to try some bourbon?
I mean, it really is that much.
I mean, every different.

SPEAKER_06 (01:25:18):
It's kind of like that down here, like, oh, it's a
bright sunny day.
Would you like to have acocktail with me?

unknown (01:25:22):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:25:23):
Would you like to have a sea breeze?

SPEAKER_06 (01:25:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:25:25):
But yeah, so a Sun Cruiser.
But the whiskey that he likesand what he was drinking before
he created his own whiskey wasJack Daniels Fire.
He said, because he didn't likeFireball, Fireball was too
sweet.
Fireball, not really whiskey,but close off.
Whiskey drink.
And I love Fireball.

(01:25:47):
Because I love too sweet for me.
I love the hot cinnamon.
I mean, hot, spicy, anything Ilove.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:56):
Ay, ay, yay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:25:58):
Yes.
That's why you like Numerol.
However, you know, I go to awing place, I like in the
hottest you can possibly makethe wings.
Yeah.
So anything spicy.
But to me, Fireball has thatcinnamon spicy taste to it.
Jack Fire, same thing.
That cinnamon taste.

(01:26:18):
But what he has done is he hascreated a smoother version of
the two of those.

SPEAKER_06 (01:26:24):
With a smoky element.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:25):
With the smoky element.
Now I'm curious to see what thatadds to it.

SPEAKER_06 (01:26:29):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:29):
I am too.
I'm leaving a open mind to it.
He developed the smoky elementbased off of a smoky old
fashion.

SPEAKER_07 (01:26:37):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:37):
So I would like to see what that tastes like.
I am looking forward to it.
He said he would bring me abottle next time he comes
through town.

SPEAKER_08 (01:26:44):
Yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:44):
I'm going to hold him to that.
We'll probably reach out to himevery day until it happens.

SPEAKER_06 (01:26:51):
Okay, Jay.
Okay, Jay.
Yeah, I'm gonna bring you one.
Okay, Jay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:55):
Okay, go away.
And he's coming to town again.
I say to town, four hours away.
He's gonna be up in Akron.
Is it Akron?
I thought it was Akron.
He's gonna be up in Top Ohio.
Look on his website.
I believe it's Akron, and he'sgonna be opening up for the Oak

(01:27:17):
Ridge Boys.

SPEAKER_07 (01:27:19):
Okay, good.
Look it up.

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:21):
You keep doubting me.
But yes, he's gonna be openingup for the Oak Ridge Boys in
Upper Ohio.
I would like to go because Ilike it's right next to great
strip clubs up there.

SPEAKER_07 (01:27:38):
Gee.

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:38):
Oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_07 (01:27:40):
This is a family show.

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:41):
Is it?
Yeah, as you say that topless.
I love that.
Anyways, I would like to seeScotty again.
You know, for for a friend ofmine who lives not too far from
me, I only see him when he'sperforming near me.
He keeps saying, Yeah, let's goto dinner, let's go out and do

(01:28:02):
this, let's hang out.
No, we only see each other, youknow, before show.
We hang out on a tour bus, youknow, we go to dinner and then
hang out on a tour bus untilit's time for him to go on
stage.
Which is great.
I love doing it.
But it seems like that's oddthat the only time we see each
other is on a tour bus.

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:20):
I mean, it's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:22):
But yes, so this time, not only will I get to see
Scotty, get to see William LeeGolden, who is awesome, but I'll
also get to see Johnny James.

SPEAKER_06 (01:28:33):
Well, he is not listing his Ohio.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:37):
You would have to look up the Oak Ridge Boys.

SPEAKER_06 (01:28:40):
Oh right.
I knew that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:44):
And then Ron Fairchild is gonna be coming on
the show, and he's the keyboardplayer for the Oak Ridge Boys.

SPEAKER_07 (01:28:50):
Nice.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:51):
I don't know if that'll happen before or after
the show in Akron.

SPEAKER_06 (01:28:58):
But tour, tour, Dave.
Oh, I can't wait.

SPEAKER_08 (01:29:07):
It doesn't listen here either.

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:09):
Uh-huh.
Sure it doesn't.

SPEAKER_08 (01:29:11):
It doesn't.
What the heck?
Cedar Prayer.

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:16):
The Oak Ridge Boys are playing in northern Ohio.
If you're anywhere in thenorthern Ohio region, go see the
Oak Ridge Boys.
Come say hi, I'll be there.
Four, four and a half hour driveto go see the Oakridge.
Don't keep saying it if you'renot right.

(01:29:38):
I am if you're not 100%confident.

SPEAKER_07 (01:29:40):
Oh, I'm 100% cotton.
Tune into this.

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:44):
100% cotton.
Tune into the episode on Mondayto find out where the Overage
Boys will be playing.

SPEAKER_07 (01:29:52):
You don't have to tune in because it's going to be
in Canton.

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:56):
I'm just going to say it's safe to say Northern
Ohio.

SPEAKER_07 (01:30:01):
Oh my goodness.
All right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:04):
To be fair, they're they're pretty close to each
other.

SPEAKER_06 (01:30:07):
Are they?
It sounded like it when I waslistening to the other podcast
that was that was talking aboutdifferent towns.
They were talking aboutCleveland, Canton, and Akron.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:17):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cleveland's a lot farther on.
It's not that far.
It's the big city.

SPEAKER_05 (01:30:23):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:24):
Alright.
Well, hey.
Shall we crash it?
We can crash it again.

SPEAKER_05 (01:30:28):
Let's crash it.
Let's let's uh obliterate it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:35):
Well, let's do it.
All right.
We have reached the top of thehour, which does mean we have
reached the end of the show.
If you have enjoyed the show,please tell a friend and Miss
Tiffany.
If you have not.

SPEAKER_08 (01:30:45):
Tell two.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:46):
Tell two.
You can reach out to both of usover at jfranzy.com and we will
keep this or any otherconversation going.
We're going to stay here tillfour in the morning.
So please feel free to come talkto us.
You can also find our socialsand you can find out where the
Oak Ridge boys are playing.
Because as soon as I find out,I'm going to put it on there.

SPEAKER_08 (01:31:07):
You guys, we're going to end the show, but we're
not going to be done talkinguntil we find what this concert
is.

SPEAKER_01 (01:31:13):
Figure out where the Oak Ridge Boys are playing.
So bad.
Alright, well, like I said, findour socials, find anything you
want over there.
It will all be at jfrenzy.comand probably be in the menu.

SPEAKER_08 (01:31:29):
The drop-down menus.
Drop-down menus.

SPEAKER_01 (01:31:33):
I love her like a bad rash.
Like a kidney stone.
I love her like a kidney stone.

SPEAKER_10 (01:31:41):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (01:31:42):
Miss Tiffany, I hate to say it, but I'm going to ask
anyway.
Do you have any final words forus?

SPEAKER_06 (01:31:48):
Of course.
Crew members, goodbye for now.
But you can stay connected withus on the socials.
Enjoy your week, and we'll seeyou back here next time.

SPEAKER_01 (01:31:58):
On that note, folks, have a good night.

SPEAKER_00 (01:32:03):
Thanks for listening to the Jay Franzi Show.
Make sure you visit us atJfranzi.com.
Follow, connect, and stay hello.

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