Top Women in Country, First Artist You Connected With, and Country Music News

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Jay Franze (00:45):
And we are coming at you live.
I am Jay Franzi, and with metonight the Abbott Mike
Costello, my beautiful co-host,Miss Tiffany Mason.

Tiffany Mason (00:56):
Good evening.

Jay Franze (00:58):
If you are new to the show, this is your source
for the latest news, reviews,and interviews.
And if you would like to joinin, you can head over to
jafranzie.com.
Before we get started, myfriend, let me go ahead and tell
you about this question of theday.
It is who is the first artistthat you connected with?

(01:18):
Who is the first artist thatyou connected with?
This would be the artist thathas made you fall in love with
music.
Do not answer now, but let's goahead and see how much.

I know I'm very excited though, because I only
have one.
I only have one answer tonight.

Jay Franze (01:32):
That's a first, folks.
Go ahead and save that oneanswer for a little later in the
show.
And if you would like to addyour comments, you can go ahead
and put your comments in thecomments section.
And we will read those off alittle later in the show as
well.
All right.
Speaking of comments, we havethis new segment we are calling
mailbag.
And one of the submissions tothe mailbag was from a woman,

(01:58):
lady, young lady, I don't know,girl, named Jasmine.
And Jasmine said, Can we talkmore about women in country
music?
So I said no.

No.

Jay Franze (02:10):
No, absolutely not.
No.
I thought of Jasmine, actually,when I came across this article
that says Top 12 country songsby women in 2025.
So I thought we could go overthis, make Jasmine happy.

Well, I think that'd be good.
I mean, give credit wherecredit's due.

Jay Franze (02:30):
Credit where credit is due.
So I'm going to start this off,and as always, I did not review
these in advance.
So let's get this going.
Gabby Barrett.
Gabby Barrett, the easy part.
Now it says number 12.
I don't know if they're trulyranked, but that's what it says.

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Number 12.

I don't know if I know this song, The Easy Part.

Jay Franze (02:56):
It says this is her first radio single.
It is a vocal ballad, and itwarns of a man leaving her.
Number 11, Kelsey Ballerini.
Kelsey Ballerini baggage.
Says this is a new single.

(03:21):
It's pop friendly.
Pop friendly love song.

Okay.
So one's a guy leaving her, andone is a love song.
Okay.

Jay Franze (03:33):
There you go.
Lauren Elena, all my exes.
Alright.
This is one this was a stretchfor her.
It doesn't sound like anythingthat she's released previously.

It's true.
She's not really like abreakup, you know, anthem queen
singer.

Jay Franze (03:51):
It does say that she was joined by Chase Matthew.
I like Chase Matthew.

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze (03:56):
Alright.
Megan Moroni, six months later.

Thank God.
One I finally know.
If it doesn't kill you willkill you six months later.

Jay Franze (04:06):
This is the only woman with two songs on the
list.

Oh.
Ooh, I wonder.
What is the other one?

Jay Franze (04:14):
Anticipation.

Ooh.

Jay Franze (04:17):
She's a cute girl.
I like her.

She's so cute.

Jay Franze (04:21):
Number eight.
Numero Ocho, as you say.

Oh, I know.

Jay Franze (04:27):
Dasha.
Not at this party.
Austin.

Oh what?

Jay Franze (04:32):
Not at this party.

Uh-oh.
I'm gonna say Austin.
I don't know.
Not at this party.

Jay Franze (04:38):
Dasha is very good at breakup songs.
She remains in control.

She remains in control.

Jay Franze (04:48):
It's the first time I've ever seen her.
It shows a picture of her.
I don't think I've ever seenher before.

I don't know if I have either.
I've listened to her song awhole bunch of times, Austin,
and Hannah gets mad at me everytime.
Must be like an old song, youknow, so Hannah's like, really,
you're gonna play it again?

Jay Franze (05:05):
The picture looks like a 1970s picture.
It's an old greenish couch withuh with paneling on the wall,
and she's kind of dressed inthat 70s vibe.

Oh, cool.

Jay Franze (05:14):
It's kind of neat.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (05:17):
Ella Langley.
Number seven.
Ella Langley.

Okay.
Okay.

Jay Franze (05:22):
Weren't for the Wind.

Ah, I like that song.
Okay.
If it weren't for the wind.

Jay Franze (05:30):
It says during Weren't for the Wind, Ella
Langley does her best toconvince us she's the no time
for love type.

Mmm.
Okay.

Jay Franze (05:41):
Number six, one of the all-time best country
singers.

Oh gosh.

Jay Franze (05:49):
Nope, you're wrong.
Trisha Yearwood.
The Mirror.

I don't know this song either.

Jay Franze (05:58):
This is her first release in six years.
And it proved to be worth thewait.

Okay, well, I will check that out.
The mirror.

Jay Franze (06:07):
The mirror.

The mirror.

Jay Franze (06:10):
It's a cool picture.
She's kind of cocked back in aneasy chair with her one foot
out, wearing this giant dressthat looks like it could be a
wedding, wedding gown.
And of course, then she's got ajean jacket over it.
It's kind of cool.

Sounds dramatic.

Jay Franze (06:27):
Ooh.
Megan Patrick, Golden Child.

Don't know the name, don't know the song.

Jay Franze (06:35):
Warning, it comes from her personal place.
This is a rock and fruit.

Did you say it comes from her personal place?

Jay Franze (06:45):
No, I did not say that.
I would not say that.

It comes from her personal place.

Jay Franze (06:54):
Would like to see how she would sing that.
Warning comes from a personalplace.
Golden child is a rock-infusedcountry track.
You say personal place and thenyou follow it up with golden.
It's all sorts of wrong.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (07:13):
We need to go to the next one because I think the
gate is still open and I'mhaving a hard time keeping it
in.
Number four, Laney Wilson.
Somewhere over Laredo.
I like that song.

I love that song.
So good.

Jay Franze (07:29):
In Cincinnati, and I'm sure in other cities across
the country, she does the bumperfor it, the radio bumper.
And it says, when she says it,she says, I'm somewhere over
Cincinnati.
Oh no, no, no, no.
Wait, Laredo.

Oh.
I don't think we have that onedown here.

Jay Franze (07:49):
Yeah, it's kind of cool.

Yeah, that is cool.
I love whenever they do any ofthe, you know, local specific
town stuff.
Yeah.
I was like, how'd they getthat?

Jay Franze (07:58):
They sit there in a room all day long and just say
one after another after anotherafter another.

Yeah, it's very exciting.

Jay Franze (08:05):
Laney Wilson may be country music's most versatile
woman.

Most what woman?
Versatile?
I don't feel like she's veryversatile.
Well, it is thunderstorminghere too.
So you're competing with thepitter patter on the window.
Nice.

Jay Franze (08:23):
The pitter patter.

And I often hear things wrong because I've got a
wandering mind.

Jay Franze (08:28):
That's true as well.
I'm weird.

There's many factors working against you that
are not your fault, Jay.

Jay Franze (08:36):
My fault for choosing you.

Tonight I did something goofy in the kitchen.
I was singing a song in a weirdway.
And then Sean made fun of me toHannah, and I looked at him and
I said, You chose me.

Jay Franze (08:51):
Fair enough.
Margot Price, don't let thebastards get you down.

I like that.
I don't know the song, butthat's a funny title.

Jay Franze (09:03):
It looks like an old-time Western outfit.

Funny.
Like when you go to theadventure parks and you're gonna
take the yeah.

Jay Franze (09:12):
Black and way with a cowboy hat, and she's got her
thumbs kind of in the beltbuckles or the belt loops.

She's a sharpshooter from back in the
dirt dirt road days.

Jay Franze (09:23):
Margot Price borrowed one of Chris
Kistrofferson's favoritesayings.
Is that don't let the bastardsget you down?

Yep.

Jay Franze (09:32):
Okay.

Yep.

Jay Franze (09:34):
Miranda Lambert.
Run.

Run.

Jay Franze (09:38):
Run.
Run is fascinating.
It's fascinating listening in2025.

Ooh.
Run.
I like Miranda, so I probablylike it.
I'm gonna look it up.
Trisha and Miranda, they got myvote.
I'm intrigued.

Jay Franze (09:53):
Now Miranda, postcards from Texas is the
album.
The album cover looks typicalMiranda.
She's got the t-shirt on that'spretty bold.
The cowboy hat with feathersand stuff.
Not your traditional cowboyhat.
Buckingham.

I was at Ace Hardware looking for a gift.
That's where you normally lookfor a gift for other women.
Yeah.
At Ace Hardware.
They have a pretty sweet littlegift section, little boutiquey
area.

Jay Franze (10:23):
Yeah, my wife loves when I shop at Ace Hardware.

She says that's just what I wanted.

Jay Franze (10:30):
Not a sponsor, but could be.

And uh they had cowboy hats in there.
And I was like, of all thehardware store.
No, it's like in the boutiquearea, though.
It's not, it's not with themanly stuff, it's for chicks.
And then the one hat said itwas adjustable, so it's got like
that band on the inside, it'slike a sweatband, you know, but
you can like draw.
I was like, okay, that'sinteresting.

(10:57):
Okay.
But you know, there have beenthree times where Hannah needed
a cowboy hat.
And I was like, I don't know,my friend has a hat that she
borrows, but it it's almost alittle too small for Hannah, and
it kind of looks, it's just notthe real look that she's going
for.
Anyway, I'm like, who knew Icould have run to Ace Hardware
all these times to get hercowgirl hat.

(11:19):
All right.
So if you guys have an AceHardware in your area, you too
can pick up a cowboy hat,cowgirl hat, whatever kind of
hat you want.

Jay Franze (11:28):
For those watching us on YouTube, Tiffany's taking
her top off.

It's getting hot in here.
Nice.

Jay Franze (11:36):
It is topless Thursday.
I just thought about that.
It is topless Thursday.

Topless Thursday.
Woo!

Jay Franze (11:44):
So if you would like to join, jfranzi.com.

Join us live tonight and tell us your
thoughts.

Jay Franze (11:52):
Hop on in here.
All right, let's get this overwith.
Number one, Megan Moroney.
Am I okay?

It's a pretty good song.
That was awesome at the concertwhen everybody in the audience
was screaming, Oh my god, am Iokay?
Was awesome.

Jay Franze (12:15):
Megan Moroni really seemed to find her voice during
this chart run of Am I Okay?
Mm-hmm.
She looks very different inthis picture than the one
earlier.

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze (12:29):
A woman with multiple looks.
She looks very classy in thispicture.
Like high-end going out to aball classy.

Oh wow.
Her hair's up and um, I thinkthat's the one I do not like.
I like when her hair is down.

Jay Franze (12:46):
That picture's down, but it's also up.

Yes, it's half up.

Jay Franze (12:51):
Yes, that's what I said.
It's half up.

Yes.
And I do not like that pictureof her because it makes me think
of the Vim bots from AustinPowers.
I think we talked about thatbefore.

Jay Franze (13:01):
It's true.

Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Country Jam in Colorado takesuh 2026 time out.
So for 33 years, they've hadthis festival, and they have
decided that they are pausing itto regroup and plan its future.
Must have gotten rusty anddusty, and they just think that

(13:24):
it needs a facelift.

Jay Franze (13:26):
Oh, that's funny.
Your girl, Miranda Lambert, shehosted that in the past.

Oh, is that right?

Jay Franze (13:35):
I mean, it's a big deal.
That's why I'm assuming that'swhy it's in the news.

But yeah.
I'm not from Colorado.
I have not heard of it before,but I don't doubt that is very
exciting because I saw who theheadliners were supposed to be
this year, and they were veryimpressive.
Anyway.
Okay.
Something else is veryimpressive.
Georgia steak and shake owner.

(13:59):
He has a billboard with CharlieKirk on it, and it's sparking
national attention.
So a Georgia businessman, WayneRobinson, recently put up a
billboard tribute to CharlieKirk, and fans have been
flocking to that particularlocation to show their support.

Jay Franze (14:16):
I do not like their fries.
Steak and shake, please stillbe a sponsor because I like your
burgers.

And I like your fries.

Jay Franze (14:23):
I have a problem with the shoestring fries.

I like shoestring fries.

Jay Franze (14:28):
No, I'd prefer steak fries.

Mr.
Mason likes steak fries.
I like crinkle cut fries orcrinkle cut or shoestring.

Jay Franze (14:36):
Yeah.
Crinkle cut, good.

And I do get mad at waffle.

Jay Franze (14:40):
Yeah, I'm not a fan of it.
I mean, they're just potatoesat a point.

They're cumbersome.
They're you they think thatthey're giving you a lot, but
really you only got like three.
Sorry, two.
How am I gonna fit it in theranch dippy thing?

Jay Franze (14:53):
There's all sorts of problems with the waffle fries.

You know what the waffle fries are good for?
Is the loaded fries.
You know, where they're pickingup the cheese and the bacon.

Jay Franze (15:02):
It's more like nachos at that point.

Yeah, yeah.

Jay Franze (15:06):
So kind of hungry.

Anyhow, I don't know which location in Georgia,
but if you look it up, if youfigure out which one rain Wayne
Robinson runs, that is a tonguetwister.
Wayne Robinson runs.
You can show oh, Wayne Robinsonruns.
I have to really say themseparately.
Okay.

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Next one is Lainey Wilsonsurprises the fan mid-show with
a heartfelt hug.
She was in the middle ofperforming, and without
hesitation, she gets up from herseat and goes from the seat,
her seat on stage, and made herway to the front row, telling
her fan, let's just take asecond.
I'm going to come hug yourneck.
First of all, I mean from thebeginning, girl.

(15:51):
Remember when we played thatcasino and literally nobody was
there?
It was just you on the frontrow by the barricade.
And I was like, My girl's here.
I love you.
Thank you.
So somebody that has supportedLainey this whole time.
She walks over and justacknowledges her that right
there in front of everybody.

Jay Franze (16:10):
Boom.

Boom.

Jay Franze (16:12):
She's good like that.

She is good like that.
I like the fact that, well,really what it made me think of.
So y'all know Jay was onMemories of a Beat, right?
And we talked about yes, Pepsi,not a sponsor, but it could be.
If you guys know anybody who'sPepsi and they want to sponsor
the Jay Franzi show, let usknow.

Jay Franze (16:31):
And their factories right down the road from my
house.

Okay, well, even more appropriate.
I mean, if we could get somebourbon, that'd be ideal.
But, you know.

Jay Franze (16:40):
Working on it.

Okay.

Jay Franze (16:41):
Johnny James.

Oh, yeah.

Jay Franze (16:44):
Whiskey, but you know, close enough.

Is it?
I don't know.
Okay.

Jay Franze (16:52):
Bourbon has more hoops you could have jumped
through in order to be able tocall it bourbon.

And it has to come out of Kentucky.

Jay Franze (16:58):
And it well, it should come out of Kentucky.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (17:01):
That's a debate people have.

Okay.
Okay.
Let's get back on track here.
Yeah.
Um bourbon.
It made me think of.
Oh, wait.

Jay Franze (17:11):
He meant your story.

Yeah.
Yeah.

Jay Franze (17:14):
You wanted to go over that one more time.

It's my turn.

Jay Franze (17:19):
So you want to focus on the story?

Shh.
It's my turn.
Okay.
I love that she acknowledgesfan, but what it made me think
of is how Von Ray would havebeen, and they would have been
like, well, if they saw you inthe front row at their concert,
they would have been like, Jayman, I remember when you were
hanging out here, when you werehanging out with my mom at the
merch table, and you've beenhere from the beginning.

(17:47):
That's immediately what Ithought of when I read this
story.

Jay Franze (17:50):
That's true.
I was there from the beginning.
I'm there for them now.
If they were to perform a showtomorrow, I would be there.

I would too.

Jay Franze (17:58):
I would drive the 12 hours to go see them for sure.
I would too.

It takes me two hours and I'd be there.

Jay Franze (18:05):
Yeah.

All right.
Well, moving right along.

Jay Franze (18:09):
Moving on.

Mr.
Cody Johnson is earning Dad ofthe Year buzz for big moves
offstage.
He's known for his music, buthis fans are applauding how
he'll spend tens of thousandsgolfing a private jet to make
his kids recital.
I don't know why he's golfing aprivate jet.

Jay Franze (18:27):
I was just going to say.

I mean I think he's going to be riding in a
private jet to make it to hiskids' dance recital.

Jay Franze (18:36):
Is that a rich person word for renting?

I don't know.

Jay Franze (18:42):
Instead of flying a plane, why doesn't he just ride
the bull?

Right.
I think that's what he's goingto do.
Regardless, he is going to getto his kids' dance recital, and
that is admirable.

Jay Franze (18:53):
Yep.

I only know one song by Cody Johnson.
I know he's got lots and lots.
Yeah, I don't know what it is.
I know there is one on theradio right now.
You look it up.
I'm going to talk about DollyParton.
Jay, get to work.

Jay Franze (19:06):
George.
Apparently you're fired.

Okay.
What is really going on withDolly?
So her team has apologizedbecause she has postponed some
of her shows and she hasn'treally fully explained what's
going on.
But in other recent news, shehas health guidance after a
kidney stone led to aninfection, keeping her off the

(19:30):
road.
Six planned Vegas dates aremoved to 2026 as she deals with
health issues and keeps fansupdated.
So I guess it was hush-hush fora minute, and now it is public
knowledge.
And good for her that she'sreplanning those dates.
And it's like we've saidbefore, like they're just
humans.

Jay Franze (19:48):
It's true.
And kidney stones are nothingto mess with.

Yeah, and I've never had one, and I don't ever
want one.

Jay Franze (19:55):
My wife gets them all the time and it puts her in
the emergency room.

I was gonna say, Oh my gosh, that's terrible.
That's scary, too.

Jay Franze (20:05):
I know.
You know how hard it is for meto create those stones inside of
her.
Wildfire, Cody Johnson,wildfire.

Wildfire.
Good call, good call, goodcall.
Okay.
So, in other news with Dolly, Imean there's a lot going on
with Dolly this week.
Her late husband, Carl Dean,typically private, he once
jumped on stage to sing withDolly at the fair.
So out of character, she laterlaughed.
Just reading that, can you hearher laughing?

(20:34):
Whatever she does.
Nice.
Oh, another clip.
An exact per impersonation.

Jay Franze (20:44):
I know um it's not nice to talk about a woman's
age, but obviously it's it'sclear that she's up there in
age.
Yes.
But she won a Guinness BookWorld Record for having a top 20
hit in every decade that she'sbeen performing, and that's 70.
70 years, seven decades.

Oh my goodness.
Wow.
And uh refresh my memory.
I don't think that she made itin the top two when we talked
about the most influentialwomen.

Jay Franze (21:17):
That's what I'm saying.

Holy smokes! You got Dollywood, she got a top 20
in seven decades.
Who else has had a 70-year-longcareer?

Jay Franze (21:29):
Not I.

Not I.
Wow.

Jay Franze (21:34):
Not yet.
I'm going for it, but not yet.

Yeah, yeah, I see it.
I can see it in the future.
I'm working on it.
Well, a little bit of sad newsor a little bit of like
intriguing news.
After the tragic floods at CampMystic, the camp has announced
in 2026 to start reopening, butwhen they made the announcement,

(21:59):
it drew protest because there'sstill one camper that is
unaccounted for.
So hopefully they put that onhold and honor that family.

Jay Franze (22:12):
Yeah, that's sad.

Very sad.
I can't imagine.
Well, let's turn the boataround and go something a little
bit, you know, happier.
Taste of country.
Love Taste of Country.
Every time we mention anythingfrom them, it always makes me
think of when my dad wouldbalance the checkbook on Sundays
and he would put on CMT TV andlisten to the countdowns and

(22:38):
then the videos and then Cookand Chase would come on and uh
just so many good memories, butit's like all the time because
we talk about them a lot.
Like you and I off-air, we talkabout them a lot.

Jay Franze (22:47):
Anyways, so you just said CMT TV.

And they would have Taste of Country on there.

Jay Franze (22:53):
Country music television television.

I know that's why I said it's like when you say
the ATM machine.

Jay Franze (22:59):
No, you don't say the ATM machine.

I know, but a lot of people do.
And then I said CMT, well, TV.
I corrected myself, but then Iduplicated myself.

Jay Franze (23:14):
We look up to you for accurate information.

CMT TV.

Jay Franze (23:18):
Now you're gonna have a bunch of crew members
going around saying CMT TV.

I know.
Just a CMT guys, if you guyssay it in the wild, not with
somebody who is another.
Well, now for everybody who'swatching.

Jay Franze (23:35):
I'm trying to join the club.

Now it is topless Thursday.

Jay Franze (23:39):
Topless Thursday.

Jay's taking his top off.
Things are getting interesting.
I've never seen Jay DeRobe.
This is interesting.

Jay Franze (23:47):
I'm trying to strip here.
Trying to do it.
This is what you call class.

It's like you're it's like you're at home, sweet
home.
It's like that, right?
And the reason I mention homesweet home is because nice.
Jay's trying to pretend that heis a rack.

Jay Franze (24:10):
Oh mercy.

That's just in.
Beep beep, beep, beep, beep,beep.

Jay Franze (24:13):
It's just in this episode's not airing.

Okay.
Motley Crue and Dolly are doinga collab question mark.

Jay Franze (24:23):
I just like the fact that you said speaking of home
sweet home.
I was almost going to beimpressed that you knew Motley
Crue saying home sweet home.
But that's part of theheadline.

I know, I know that.
Yeah.
Oh, you the oh I thought youjust knew it.
No, no, no.
Anyways, okay.
Reborn with a country twist.
So Dolly Parton joins withrockers on a new version,
blending genres, bringing freshlife to the classic.
What is happening?
Are you just taking your armsout?

Jay Franze (24:54):
I got hot.
I did.

So what why don't you take it off your head?

Jay Franze (25:00):
Rather than passing out, I just figured I would just
kind of take it off a little.
Is that better?
I look like I'm wearing a cape.
Call me Super Jay.

Okay, well, tonight I am the cape to Jay's
Super Jay.
Oh God.
Oh dear Lord, save us with thequestion of the day.

Jay Franze (25:29):
Oh, question of the time.

Save us, Jay.

Jay Franze (25:31):
It's that time.
Oh Lord, what was our questionof the day?
Let's see.
Question of the day.
Who's the first artist that youconnected with?
Who is the first artist thatyou connected with?
You know, the one that made youfall in love with music.
All right.
Miss Tiffany, I'm gonna goahead, as always, and give you

(25:55):
the opportunity to go first orsave it to the end.
End.

End doing doing a mic drop.

Jay Franze (26:02):
Boom.
Alright.
Let's just go through thesequick tonight because there are
lots of them.

Okay.

Jay Franze (26:10):
Sarah says Garth Brooks.

Duh, yes.

Jay Franze (26:14):
He made a lot of people fall in love with music.
He made a lot of people fallback in love with country music.

I was just gonna say, yep.
Took the words right out of mymouth.

Jay Franze (26:21):
James.

Kind of rude.

Jay Franze (26:23):
James.
Sorry.
Didn't mean to be rude.

Take the words out of my mouth again.

Jay Franze (26:28):
James, not the same James.

New James.

Jay Franze (26:31):
Different James.
Says the Beatles.
Lisa says Shania Twain.
It's all about her confidenceand her energy.

Yeah, made her feel like a woman.

Jay Franze (26:42):
Good call.
David.
David says Elvis Presley.

Oh.

Jay Franze (26:48):
Emily says Taylor Swift.
Chris says Nirvana.
Just raw motion.
Hannah, thank you for comingback.

No?
Whitney Houston.
Oh, yes.

Jay Franze (27:06):
Yeah, you have me, Hannah.
You're back.
I don't know.

You got me backpedaling on my choice.

Jay Franze (27:12):
Mm-hmm.
Mike says, come on, Tiffany,what about Metallica?

Good call, Mike.

Jay Franze (27:23):
Rockalooch says Dolly Parton.
How can we not say DollyParton?
We've talked about her 26 timestonight.

Yeah, yeah.

Jay Franze (27:31):
Kevin says Johnny Cash.
Amanda, this is a good one.
Amanda says Alanis Morisset.

Ooh, I like that one.
That would be a tie with myother one.
Yeah, that was good.

Jay Franze (27:42):
I think Alanis Morisset made a lot of people
think about music in a differentway.
And I don't think she gets anyof the credit she deserves.

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze (27:50):
Tyler says Leonard Skinnard.
This is Lanard Skinard.

No, that was the name of the album, right?

Jay Franze (28:02):
I guess.

It was the name of the album or the song.

Jay Franze (28:05):
Mr.
Botilato, join back in and tellus.
Sophia says Adele.
Daniel says the Eagles.
Olivia says Billy Eilish.
Ryan says Bruce Springsteen.
Kelly, Faith Hill.
Zach, George Strait.
He is the king.
I agree with that.

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Ethan says Green Day.
Natalie says Carrie Underwood.
She proved that it's cool to becountry.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (28:38):
Brandon says A C D C.
Laura says let's be classic andgo with Patsy Klein.

Oh.

Jay Franze (28:45):
Justin says, screw you, Laura.
I'm going with Eminem.

Okay.
Now we gotta be nice to eachother.
I really play nice in thesandbox.

Jay Franze (28:55):
Don't make us turn the question the day around.
Megan says Reba McIntyre.
Connor says Led Zeppelin.
Tiffany, you you remember whoLed Zeppelin is?

Yes.

Jay Franze (29:09):
I love you, Connor.
You're my new favorite.
Alyssa says Christina Aguilera.
Ah, if we're gonna talk aboutthat.
Samantha says Britney Spears.
Anthony says Hank Williams Jr.
Vanessa says Kelly Clarkson.
Patrick says Prince.
Sean says Z Z Top.

(29:31):
Who is the singer for ZZ Top?

All I know is they have long beards.
I feel like we just talkedabout this.

Jay Franze (29:44):
You take a minute.

Um I'm not gonna get there.

Jay Franze (29:48):
Courtney says Selene Dion.

Nathan.
Is his name Nathan?

Jay Franze (29:55):
His name is Nathan.
Billy Gibbons.

That's what I said.
Billy Gibbons.
I knew we just talked about it,but Jason, you are awesome.

Jay Franze (30:09):
Jason's come on, Tiffany.
Do you remember Aerosmith?

I remember Aerosmith and Steven Tyler.

Jay Franze (30:19):
Yes, I do.
Um Cole.
Cole, you're new here.
Thank you.
Cole says Chris Stapleton.

He must be young.

Jay Franze (30:27):
Matthew says Van Halen.
Sophie says Joni Mitchell.

Ooh, good.

Jay Franze (30:33):
Hunter.
Hunter.
Are you new here, Hunter?
I don't remember ever sayingHunter.
Says Tim McGraw.
Jackie says Mitch Miller.
Mike.
Michael.
He's here every week.
Thank you, Michael.
He says, you know my answer,but for those who don't, it's
KISS.

Oh.

Jay Franze (30:54):
Yeah, I'm well aware Michael is a big KISS fan.
Scott says Joan Jett.

Yes.

Jay Franze (31:03):
I like Joan Jett.
I saw her perform at a college,Salem State College in
Massachusetts.
James, the James, the one andonly James, who came up with our
question of the day for twoweeks in a row.
The only reason I'm giving himtwo weeks in a row is because
you put them both in the samecomment.

Well, they're good questions.

Jay Franze (31:25):
They're good questions.
I like it.
So James says Fleetwood Mac.

Ooh.
James just gained big pointswith me.
I just had it on the today.
My mom called and I said, Youlisten, you hear what I got on?
Got rumors on.

Jay Franze (31:42):
Because we know you don't get a top on.
Mark.
Mark Botalato.

Botalato.

Jay Franze (31:49):
Use his last name because he has been on the show.
Ozzy.

Oh.

Jay Franze (31:55):
He says, however, to be more specific, Randy Rhodes.

Oh.

Jay Franze (32:00):
That's where the journey began.

I'm very jealous of people that are like so aware
of the lead singer, and thenwhen somebody changes, and then
they know the new singer.
I'm not thinking I would knowif they change the words.

Jay Franze (32:19):
I don't think in country music you typically know
much about that type of stuff.
Because they change the bandmembers are hired guns.
Even on the road, they're hiredguns.

I never knew that either.

Jay Franze (32:30):
In the studio.
But in the rock worlds, whenyou get to know a band, it's
five five guys that grew uptogether in a garage.

Right.
So well, you know, it came upon my podcast that now
everybody's trying to get famouson like TikTok and Spotify and
Instagram.
And I think back in the day wedidn't have those social media
outlets.
So everybody tried to formthese bands in their garages

(33:00):
trying to get famous.
You know, like we have allthese influencers now, but
before it was, like you said,these guys who grew up in high
school together and they formeda band and tried to make a go of
it.

Jay Franze (33:10):
There you go.
Carol says Elvis.
Kim, Kim says David Cassidy.

Oh cute.
Probably from the show.

Jay Franze (33:23):
Kim, you are awesome.
Jay, not this Jay, but that J,says Bob Seeger.
Now he also says the Eagles,but to be fair, he should only
get one.

Okay.

Jay Franze (33:37):
And Deb.
Deb says the Eagles.
She only said one, so she getsit.
She gets credit for the Eagles.

We're following the rules.

Jay Franze (33:47):
I don't know.
Is that a rule?
We always say it is, but Iknow.

Kate.
That's a loose and fast rule.

Jay Franze (33:53):
I'm gonna use Kate's last name.

Okay.

Jay Franze (33:56):
Not a previous guest.
Potential future guest.
Only because it says KateMorris Music.
So I'm assuming she wantspeople to know that she performs
music.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (34:07):
So Kate, there you go.
Kate Morris Music.
So if anybody would like tovisit Miss Kate Morris, you can
do that over at Kate MorrisMusic.
She says, dear God, I don'tknow.

Oh, she's already got us regretted.

Jay Franze (34:23):
Does a movie count?
Regoletto.

Is it the name of the movie or the song?
In the movie.

Jay Franze (34:32):
It literally just says, Does a movie count?
Regoletto.
And that's in quotes.

The maybe the Rigoletto movie made her fall in
love with music.

Jay Franze (34:41):
And if it doesn't, well then we're going with
Mariah Carey.
So she had her backup ready.

Okay, I like it.

Jay Franze (34:49):
John McLean, using his last name as well, because
it also says John McLean music.
Oh he says Toby Keith.

Thank you for clarifying.

Jay Franze (34:58):
Well, you know, hey.
Drew Ryder Smith, previousguest of the show.
He says Georgia Satellites andthe Nitty Gritty Dirt Band.

Mmm.

Jay Franze (35:13):
Maya Project Music.
Also, previous guest of theshow says Depeche Mode.
And Miss Tiffany, that bringsus to you.

Oh wow.
Okay.
Well, I'm gonna sneak to N thatI that I wasn't originally
thinking of.

Jay Franze (35:34):
That's how it usually works with my wife, too.

And I'm gonna say Paula, Jewel, and Janet Jack.

Jay Franze (35:42):
Oh, whoa, whoa, you said one.

I know.
I know.
And that's because they weremusic videos.
And so that was really when Iwas younger, younger.
But then when I really fell inlove with music was Jewel.
That was my solid pick.

Jay Franze (35:56):
Jewel is a good choice.

Yeah.
I remember singing every songon her CD, and I would just keep
replaying the CD over and over.
I would sing the songs over andover.
Couldn't get enough Jewel.

Jay Franze (36:10):
Jewel is awesome.
I always thought she was verycute, very good looking.

Yeah, I like how she like holds the note out.
She has some vibrato, a lot ofemotion.
I just really liked it.
So that's when I gotta pick.

Jay Franze (36:28):
Susie made me fall in love with music.
It was that time we spent underthe bleachers.
Music was playing in thebackground.
Oh wait, no.

No.

Jay Franze (36:39):
No.
Should we say it together?
Say what?
Oh, you think you know who myband is, my artist.

Surprise me.

Jay Franze (36:49):
One, two, three.

Journey.

Jay Franze (36:57):
Yes, journey.
I mean, if we want to take astep before that, you might be
able to say Kenny Rogers.
And air supply.
My dad used to listen to KennyRogers and Air Supply a lot.
I remember as a kid taking hiscassettes at the time and
playing them when I went to bed.
So I could listen to KennyRogers when I was funny to

(37:19):
sleep.

And what was the other group I was thinking of?

Jay Franze (37:31):
Air Supply is another one that doesn't get the
credit they deserve.

Yeah, they're very good.
And I was thinking, like, man,I should thank him for exposing
me to such great music.

Jay Franze (37:41):
I'm not listening to you.

I know.
I know.
You're getting cooled off.
He's taking the layer offfinally.
The cape is disappearing,y'all.
No cape for Jay.
This is a raw, unedited cut.

Jay Franze (37:57):
All right.
Did you say something?

No.
No.
I didn't say anything aboutyou.
No, I wasn't saying anything.
Silent dead area.

Jay Franze (38:07):
Being toppled me hot.

Yeah.
That makes sense.
Okay, I like those answers.
Those are good answers, and I'mproud of you for having three.

Jay Franze (38:17):
Oh, I had three because I brought up the other
two.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (38:21):
Okay.

Yeah.
I think it is true that likeyou can kind of remember as a
kid being a little bit younger,a couple that stick out, but
then like when you truly jumpedin, you know, that was my my
jewel moment and your journeymoment.

Jay Franze (38:35):
There you go.

Yeah, we use the J's.
Yes.
And you're a J.
And you're whacked.
Okay, let's talk about thecharts.
Charts.
Charts.
Charts.
We've got a debuter and spotnumber 10.
Yeah, we start with 10.

Jay Franze (38:57):
Didn't even think about it today.
I didn't even look at thecharts when you said it.

Okay.
So we're gonna start withnumber 10 in a debut spot.
Jackson Dean with Heavens toBetsy.
Heavens to Betsy.
I never knew it was pluralheavens.
I thought it was heaven toBetsy.

Jay Franze (39:15):
No.

No, it's plural.

Jay Franze (39:16):
Plural it is.

Okay.
Spot number nine coming fromnumber 10 was John Party.
Friday night heartbreaker.

Jay Franze (39:30):
Oh, John Party.
Got it.

John Party, yeah.
And Mr.
Chase Matthews, who I mistakenas a part of the year.
Yeah.
Oh, Chase Matthew.
Yeah, not plural.
There's only one of him.
He's debuting in spot numbereight with Darlin.

Jay Franze (39:47):
Darlin.

I don't think I've heard it.

Jay Franze (39:49):
Yeah, you've heard it.
There's no way you couldn'thave.
It is a great song.
He's a great artist.
It's a great number to be on.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (39:58):
However, we talked about country club music.
This is like the definition ofwhat country club music would
be.
It is repetitive drum programmusic the entire time.
You know, it's good, it's agreat song, but it's a pop song.
It is not.
He's country to the bone.

(40:20):
I get it.
He really is.
But it's a pop song.

Okay.
Well, I'm still gonna check itout and I will report back next
week, you guys.

Jay Franze (40:29):
It is a great song.

In spot number seven is Mr.
Luke Combs Back in the Saddle.
I am a big fan of this song.
So he rose two spots from spotnumber nine to spot number
seven.
Nice.
And Maureen Wallen.
I love this song too.
I got better.
And it went from spot eight tospot six.
What are you what are youlaughing at?

Jay Franze (40:50):
I love this one.
I love this one.
I love this one.

I know, I know.
There, there, I mean, I couldsay it about all of them.
I don't know if I love numbertwo.

Jay Franze (40:58):
Oh, we're not up there yet.

I know, I know.
I didn't say it.
I wanted to.
I didn't.
I'm not gonna ruin it.

Jay Franze (41:03):
Premature.

Looking for a button?
Premature.
Okay.
Okay.
I thought you were gonna fireme.
Okay.
Now Mr.
Jordan Davis has moved fromspot six to spot five with bar
none.
Two words.
Bar, comma, none.
We put the comma in there, butyeah.
Okay, and Mr.
Shaboozy, he is slipping.

(41:28):
He went from spot one.
No, this is not good news.
From spot one to spot four.
Shaboozzi, good news.
Okay, and you know, my boy, myboy, Scotty McCreary, he's going
from spot four to spot threewith bottle rockets.

(41:51):
I mean, he slowly got up toone, and he's slowly coming down
the ladder.

Jay Franze (41:58):
He went from four to three.

Oh, he's still climbing.
You are so good at the show.

Jay Franze (42:08):
So good at the news.

You really are.
Yeah.
News.
Okay, so I looked at the wrongnumbers.
So Scotty McCreary from spotfour to spot three.
So he's still climbing.
I feel like I need to point outevery week.
I found that song.
I put everybody's attention onit.

(42:30):
Okay.

Jay Franze (42:31):
It's true.
You found it early.

Yeah, yeah.

Jay Franze (42:34):
Now, the other ones that are in the top ten, you're
like, I don't think I've heardthis song before.

I haven't heard of it.
It's in the top ten.
I haven't heard Darlin.
Okay, spot number two.

Jay Franze (42:48):
Two.
Wait.

Oh.
Jelly roll with heart of stone.

Jay Franze (42:55):
You go jelly.

That's the only one.
I don't know.

Jay Franze (42:58):
Tiffany doesn't like you.

It's just eh.
It's mid, like the kids say.
They say mid.
Yeah.
It's mid.
Big fan of jelly roll, butheart of stone.
And spot number one.
Good old roll.
Happened to me.

(43:22):
You're going to edge me buttonthis week.
All right.
Indie charts.
Are you ready, Jay?

Jay Franze (43:29):
No.
Well.
Number 10.

It's coming at you.
Single of the year by MaddieTrue.

Jay Franze (43:37):
Maddie, True Blue Music.

I'm going to say it.
Okay.
We got spot number nine.
It's a new one.
Tow Truck Driver by WaylandHannel.

Jay Franze (43:52):
Waylon Hannel music.
It's the publishing.
That's not the record company.

Right, right.

Jay Franze (44:00):
He owns his publishing.

Because he's indie.
And that also means he has morefreedom and he probably is
happier with his end product.

Jay Franze (44:08):
There you go.

Okay.
Let's talk about spot numbereight.
Is there anything significantabout eight, Jay?
Crew members?
Do y'all know?

Jay Franze (44:26):
I don't know.
It is a good looking numberthough.

Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Well, it is Jay's favoritenumber.
Number eight, leaving Louisianain the broad daylight.
So you don't have to hide andgo cheat.
You just leave Louisiana in thebroad daylight.
It is by Flat River Bandfeaturing the Oak Ridge Boys.

Jay Franze (44:48):
The Oaks.
The mighty Oaks.

And number seven is baptized in it by the Hagods.
The Haguns.
Spot number six is I Don't KnowHow to Say Goodbye.
Bang Bang Boom Boom.
Dwight Yoakum, Post Malone.
This one slid two spots.
It was four.
Now it's in spot six.
But I think it's been on thechart for a couple weeks.

Jay Franze (45:13):
It's been up there, yes, ma'am.

Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Spot number five, you werethere by Thompson Square.

Jay Franze (45:23):
Oh, just gonna let it go.

Okay.
And spot number four is CountryBoy by Randy Cobb.
I need to check that one out.
Okay, ready?

Jay Franze (45:35):
Oh.

Spot number three.
No, no, spot number three.

Jay Franze (45:38):
Oh, why are you telling me to get ready?
Oh, I see.
Go ahead.
Let's see if you can pull itoff.

Turn the night on by Chris Kizia.

Jay Franze (45:49):
Close enough.
Kizia.

Kizia.
And spot number two, read byJet Jergensmeyer.

Jay Franze (45:57):
Jergensmeyer.

Oh.
And spot number two.

Jay Franze (46:02):
Oh.

Damn it.
Read by Jet Jergensmeyer.
And spot number one, hide andgo cheat by Eric Lee
Cuttingfield.
Yeah.
Eh.
It's had enough applause.

Jay Franze (46:24):
Speaking of hide and go cheat, I'm mad at your
mother.

Yeah, I know.
She I asked her if she wasgonna tune in tonight.

Jay Franze (46:32):
Not even about that.
No.

Oh, oh, oh.

Jay Franze (46:34):
Mad at her.
She sent me a message today.
Oh yeah?
Yeah, she she sends memessages.
Wow.
But she was busting my cookies.
Oh.
She told me go Yankees.

Oh.

Jay Franze (46:49):
And laughed about it.

Yeah.
Yeah, they're pretty bigdiehard Yankee fans.

Jay Franze (46:57):
Oh, they are for real?

Oh, yeah.

Jay Franze (46:59):
Oh, I thought she was messing with me.

No, mm-mm.

Jay Franze (47:03):
Just to be fair for everybody listening, it's Go
Socks.
Boston red socks.

Can I ask a question?
I mean, this is gonna put me ina very vulnerable spot, but I'm
gonna do it.
Oh yeah, you get there.
Why are their uniforms green?

Jay Franze (47:21):
It's just a novelty uniform.

Okay.

Jay Franze (47:25):
And Boston is a very Irish town.
Okay.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (47:31):
Green is a Boston color.

Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I was like, that does not seemright.

Jay Franze (47:38):
Yeah, they wore yellow a few times too.
But no, typically red.
Yeah.
Red, gray, white.

That makes more sense.
These songs are on the website.
So if you go to jfranzie.comand you click on the drop-down
menu.
Oh, I thought you were gonna doit.

Jay Franze (47:58):
I thought you were gonna get it.
jfranzi.com slash countdown.

Yeah.
You look for the drop down menuand it says country countdown.
And it will have all the songsthere for you, and you can
listen to all of them.

Jay Franze (48:10):
Yep.
jfranzi.com slash countdown.
Or you can use the menu eitherway.
Whatever works for you.
Let's move on to the mailbag.

Yes, and where if somebody hears these and
they're like, wow, I'd like togive my two cents.
How would they do that, Jay?

Jay Franze (48:28):
I don't know if I want to tell you.
Because I told you last timeand we got a lot of responses.
You go to jfranzi.com slashmailbag.
Or you can go to the pull downmenu.
Or you can send your emails toj at jfranzi.com.

You don't have to pull the menu down, it just
drops down.

Jay Franze (48:49):
Okay, either way, it's a menu.
Bent a website before, I'm sureyou figured out to use it.
jfranzi.com slash mailbag.
Send me an email, j atjfranzi.com.
Smoke signals.
Whatever.
All right, let's move on.
Mailbag.

Mailbag.

Jay Franze (49:11):
All right.
What do we got?
I have not read these.

Oh wow.
Okay.

Jay Franze (49:16):
Melissa.
Thank you for writing in,Melissa.
She says, I've been listeningfor months now, and the show
just keeps getting better.

Ah, thank you.

Jay Franze (49:27):
Thank you, Melissa.

We aim to please.

Jay Franze (49:30):
Jessica.
Jay, your dry humor cracks meup on every episode.
You sneak those one-liners in,they go by, and I don't notice
them.
And then when I do figure itout, it makes me laugh out loud.

Love that.
I love a delayed, like likeshe's saying, you know, like and
then you kind of laugh atyourself that it took you a
minute to get what they justsaid.
I love that.

Jay Franze (49:57):
Hannah.

Oh.

Jay Franze (50:00):
That's your daughter.

No.

Jay Franze (50:02):
It's not your daughter because she's got an H.

Oh.

Jay Franze (50:06):
Sorry.
Hanna Drum.
Sorry, I did it again.
I don't think it's the same,Hannah.

Oh, okay.

Jay Franze (50:11):
It might be.
It probably is.
Sorry, Hannah.
I did it.
Sorry.
Oops.
He did it again.
He played with your name.
Oh dear God, stop.
Hannah says Tiffany is theperfect balance to Jay.
Where he's laid back, she'shigh energy.

(50:33):
And that chemistry makes thisshow work.

Oh wow.

Jay Franze (50:40):
See, and she was nice and I still screwed up.
Sarah says production qualityis unreal.

Oh.

Jay Franze (50:50):
Oh, it's all Tiffany.

It's all Tiffany.

Jay Franze (50:52):
Virtually you.
Paul says, Jay, you've workedwith so many legends.
When are we going to hear morestudio stories?

Yeah, I think we should do a studio story episode
too.

Jay Franze (51:07):
Nope, sorry.

Oh.

Jay Franze (51:09):
Sure.
I'd be happy to do that aswell.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (51:14):
Greg says, Greg says, Tiffany's laugh should be
a ringtone.

Wow.
Clip that sound bite and makeit your ringtone, Jay.
No.

Jay Franze (51:30):
It would be more like an alarm.

My husband used to have a ringtone and it would
go, Bok, Bok, Bok, Bok, Bok,Bok, Bok, and it said the wife.

Jay Franze (51:42):
All right.
Everybody laughs at me becauseif you're in the car with me and
my wife calls, it comes up onthe screen and says the best
wife ever.
My wife programmed it, and thenI changed it back to her name,
and she got mad.
So guess what?
It's back as the best wifeever.
Well, Tommy says this mailbagsegment has become my favorite.

(52:07):
Hearing what other listenershave to say makes this feel like
a real community.
Rick says every time Jay talksproduction, I learn something
new.
Can we have more gear talk,please?

Me too.
Although, didn't you write abook about gear talk?

Jay Franze (52:26):
I have no idea what you're talking about.

Don't you have a book about production?

Jay Franze (52:32):
I do, yes, ma'am.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (52:34):
JayFrenzy.com slash books.

Is there a drop-down menu for that?

Jay Franze (52:40):
Try to make it easy, folks.
Oh Lee.
Lee says Tiffany is the voiceof the audience on this show.
Brian says Jay is awesome.
Tiffany keeps things fresh andfun.

Jay is awesome.

Jay Franze (53:01):
I'll take it, but you know, they always have to
include you and give you creditor something.

They just don't want me to feel left out.

Jay Franze (53:08):
Is that what it is?
I think they're just humoringme.

They don't want you to feel left out either.

Jay Franze (53:15):
What is going on with you this week?

Well, I am going to share what's going on with me
this week, but first of all, Ithought I just finished.
Huh?

Jay Franze (53:27):
You can't do two things.

Yeah, I can do whatever I want.
I'm the chick.

Jay Franze (53:34):
The top fledge chick.
There you go.

Okay.
Well, I'm going to flip thescript a little bit.
I'm going to take the libertiesand pull rank.
That's funny.

Jay Franze (53:46):
Whose rank?

Pull rank on you.
Okay.
And we're going to talk aboutyour little book.
Oh.
You wrote this book, Stand Outor Fade Out.
Strategies for Standing Out inNashville.
And I was like, okay, great.
Jay wrote a book.
I want to read it.
Oh my gosh.
I was so impressed.
I was so impressed, you guys.
This is something I was goingto say at the end.

(54:08):
And I think this is freakinggenius.
At the back of the book, it'sother books you've written.
So if the reader reads thisbook and then they go, Oh, holy
crap, this guy really knows whathe's talking about.
Then he goes, I wonder ifthey've written other books.
I do think they're going to saythat.

(54:29):
So if you are an artist tryingto figure it out and get your
poop in a group and stand out inNashville, this really is a
pretty comprehensive manual.
So I loved that in each chapteryou went further than I was
expecting, and extra layers andpractical steps.
So it was like, do this, butnot just do this.

(54:51):
I think in this day and agethat people are looking for how
to apply the information that welearn because we have a lot of
information at our fingertipsnow.
But it's like, how do weincorporate that into our lives?
And this was so great.
If I was trying to make itnatural, I mean, like you just
flip to whatever chapter youneed, like, oh, I need better

(55:12):
marketing.
And you just flip to marketingand it's just right there.
I just I really thought it wasso good.
I really thought it was sogood.
I thought it was good that youspelled out the industry terms
like EP, demo, distributor,pitching.
I didn't know EPK, electronicpress kit.
And I knew an EP was a shortersampling of music, but honestly,

(55:38):
I thought it was one song.
It stands for extended play,which I learned in the Jay
Franzi standout or fade outbook.
And so many things that Ithought, even if you were to
read this book and you're nottrying to make it in Nashville,
it would help you to advanceyour small business.
Because a lot of the thingsthat artists have to do, in my

(56:02):
viewpoint, I feel like an artistis an entrepreneur.
They are their product, theyare their business, and they've
got to figure out how to make itthrive and survive.
Walk me through like why didyou put it in that format, or
why did that make sense to you?
Or I don't know, like you didsuch a great job like getting to

(56:24):
the point.
I feel like sometimes I'm like,I could never write a book
because you got to talk aboutthe same thing 18 times.
And that is not what happens inthis book.

Jay Franze (56:33):
I used to be a teacher at the college and our
classes would be four hourslong.
And I had the hardest timemaking a class last four hours
long.
Because the syllabus would besomething you can get through in
20 minutes.

The whole syllabus for the whole class?

Jay Franze (56:53):
No, for whatever class you're teaching that.
Whatever topic.
Teaching this topic for thenight, you probably get through
it in 20 minutes, and you'resupposed to make it last for
four hours.
And if people do that, you'rejust wasting time.
I would rather just getstraight to the point and then
let's go ahead and discuss howwe can apply those things.
So rather than wasting time forme to say the same thing three

(57:14):
or four different ways, I wouldrather just get to the point,
say, this is it, this is whatwe're doing.
And then let's go ahead anddiscuss how we could apply that
when we're in the studio, or howcan we apply that when we're
putting a tour together, or likeyou said, running a small
business.
You can apply it to anything.
We talk about the musicindustry all the time and what

(57:35):
it's like in Nashville, butthese are principles that apply
to any business anywhere, anyperson.
I look at these as more of youknow personal branding.
It's how do you how do you makeyourself stand out from
everybody else?

Mm-hmm.
And I love also that you talkedabout mindset.
So you were very direct towardsthe reader.
And I had ChatGPT summarize allI had all these notes that I
had taken while I was readingit.
And it said, you appreciatedhis directness towards artists
with a quote unquote chip ontheir shoulder attitude,
reminding them that it's notjust about talent, but

(58:10):
consistency, reinvention, andrelationships.
And that is the same thing insmall business.
It's about that consistency,constantly showing up.
You know, I think every artistthat we interview says, I hate
the social media aspect, but myPR says I got to do more social
media.
It's that consistency piece.

Jay Franze (58:29):
Yeah, it's how you connect with people.
They want to think of you asbeing reliable.
We always say that you wantthem to know, like, and trust
you.

Right.

Jay Franze (58:38):
And that trust part comes from the consistency part.
So you have to be consistent,whether that's showing up when
you say you're gonna show up,whether that's producing the
best show you can produce,whether that's producing the
best record you could produce.
You want to be consistent.
You want to do your best workat all times.
But there's so much more thanjust that.

(58:59):
Your image in general has to beconsistent.
Your website has to beconsistent, your social media
has to be consistent.
What I'm talking about is thesimple things like your profile
picture.
Let's make it fit who you'retrying to be.
Let's make it consistent acrossall of your platforms.
So if I go from your website toyour Instagram to your Facebook

(59:20):
to TikTok, I know that I'mworking with the same person.
And the quality level needs tobe consistent because I want to
know that if I go to yourInstagram page and it's amazing,
and then I go to your TikTokand it looks like garbage, you
know, that's wrong.
I want to know that I can go toone and then to the other and
it's gonna be just as good.
And then I know if I go see youperform live, that you're gonna

(59:42):
put that kind of pride andeffort into your show when
you're performing live.

Well, and I like that you gave some real life
examples.
Uh, I think it was a PR firm,but somebody who was trying to
promote themselves, PR firm wentto the website and they were
like, no, and never went back.
Opportunity missed.

Jay Franze (59:59):
Oh, absolutely.
This is one thing that I madecertain to do.
I try to do it in a lot of thebooks that I've written, but I
try to include personal storiesso that you can tie in the
concepts.
So So you're not just hearing aconcept, you're hearing a
concept, you're learning how toapply that concept, and then
you're hearing a story of eitherwhere that concept came from,

(01:00:20):
why we're talking about it, orwhat we can do to put it into to
use, what came of something.
Yeah.
And I just went back and pickedstories of people that I've
worked with or sessions thatI've been on, or tours, or any
of that type of stuff.
And we're just using thesethings as examples.

(01:00:41):
But I think using real lifeexamples ties it together and
makes it a lot easier tounderstand.
And we talk about that now whenall these artists are breaking
it on TikTok.
You know, they don't just havethe one viral video that made
people love them.
They put together a solid pageand consistent posts and great

(01:01:01):
content, and then things goviral.
And that's when the recordlabels take notice.
It's the viral video that madethem come to your profile and
check you out.
But it's everything else you'vedone that lands you the gig.

Tiffany Mason (01:01:16):
I love too that you brought up that you can do a
cover of another song and getsome popularity, and then you
release one of your originals.
And I was like, oh, what greatstrategy.
That makes total sense.
Like get people to warm up andthen, you know, spring some new

(01:01:36):
material on them.
And same thing with like theseTikTok and viral videos, they
lay the groundwork, I think iswhat I'm getting at.
You know, like you had a goodmessage of what kind of
groundwork are you puttingbefore you try to make it big or
have that viral video or havethat single go crazy.

Jay Franze (01:01:55):
Yeah, you can utilize other people's work, in
this case, cover tunes.
You're not going to go in thestudio and you're not going to
record an entire record of covertunes.
You could, but you're not goingto do that.
What you're going to do is justrecord a, you know, piece of a
chorus or 30 seconds of the songthat people are familiar with,
and then you're posting it, andthat's grappling the attention

(01:02:17):
of the casual viewer, and it'smaking them stop.
So you're stopping the scroll,as they say, to capture that one
video.
And then if you like it, thenthat person's now going to go to
your profile and see what elseyou have.
And there might be anothercouple few clips of other songs
out of the cover tunes you'reworking on.
But most likely at that point,they're going to now go check

(01:02:41):
out your original music.
And a good example of that,previous guest on the show,
Alex.
Alex does a really good job ofthat.
So she releases clips of hersinging other songs, but then
draws people to her page, whichthen they get to see her
original music.
And Gina Fritz, another onethat does that great job of

(01:03:03):
utilizing cover tunes to grabattention and make people stop.
And then it brings them to herprofile, which then they get to
listen to their music.

Yeah.
Yeah.
I I really thought it wasamazing.
I also liked because youunderstand the role of a
producer and you understand therole of an engineer and how they
can kind of make or break thecareer as well.
You said, you know, how can anartist recognize when a producer
is simply getting the job doneversus when they can actually

(01:03:33):
elevate the artist's sound whilestaying true to their voice?
So do you want to speak alittle bit to that?
Because I know that you'repretty hands-on with that
concept.

A good producer can make or break an artist for
sure.
A good engineer can make orbreak a record for sure.
Now, the way that works is anengineer has to know the basics.
They have to have a minimumamount of experience and
knowledge to run the equipment.

I have to interrupt you super fast.
I'm so sorry.
I think that you did a good jobof weaving in a little bit of
humor.
And one of the things that youweaved in humor about was like,
just because your friend has alaptop that can do it doesn't
mean that that's the rightperson to be producing your
music.

We used to say that all the time.
We used to give our students alaptop, join the school, they
get a laptop with a Pro Toolsystem.
And that was a big deal at thetime when we were doing that.
And we used to tell them, look,just because you have a laptop
and a pro tool system does notmake you an engineer.
Means you have equipment.
It's like saying you're abaseball player because you have

(01:04:38):
a bat and glove.
It doesn't work that way.
You have to know how to usethat bat and glove.
It's the same thing with anengineer.
So an engineer, they learn thebasic level to be an engineer
and to be able to do all of thethings an engineer can do.
But then there's people whotake it to the next level.
And that's not just knowing theequipment and knowing what to
press and stuff, it's knowingwhy and when in creative

(01:05:02):
decisions versus technicaldecisions.
So if I use this piece ofequipment, it's going to sound
better or it's going to soundmore like what the artist is
looking for.
So if you're working with aproducer and they say, I want
this to sound warmer, okay,well, then let me use this piece
of equipment over here becauseit's maybe a tube compressor or
tube preamp.
And it's knowing those thingsand being able to be creative.

(01:05:25):
So that's the engineer side ofthe world, but the producer side
of the world, I always ask whenwe're interviewing people or
having these conversations, whattype of producer were they?
How did they work in thestudio?
Yeah.
Because there's so manydifferent types of producers.
You can be a producer where youjust walk in and tell people
what you want done.

(01:05:45):
You know, a record label hiresproducers typically.

Okay.
Do they usually work with oneproducer or they work with
multiple producers?

They would potentially have a few producers
that they they work with.
Everything in Nashville is inlittle small groups.
There's three or four producerspeople like to work with,
there's three or four guitarplayers people like to work
with.
But the producer, you know,they come in with the record
labels, you know, they're theones paying, so it's the record

(01:06:15):
label's vision of what they'retrying to accomplish.
So if the record label says,look, I want this to sound like
Laney Wilson, then the producerwill go in and hire the
musicians and give them all theguidance and say, This is to
sound like a Laney Wilsonrecord.
Yep.
And they will perform it andthey will do exactly what that

(01:06:38):
producer says.
So that's one way of doing it.
Hands off.
You know, I'm just tellingeverybody what needs to be done.
The next producer might be alittle bit more hands-on and
might be able to do some of theengineering work or might have
more creative input.
So that's another way.
So it could be more of aproducer engineer where they're
sitting there.

(01:06:59):
That's more of what I would do.
I would run a console and tellpeople what I want done.

Okay.

Then there's another type of producer where they're
the person who can do the thingsbut can't run the equipment, or
typically don't run theequipment.
So they can play guitar, theycan play keyboards, they can
play multiple instruments.
So they can physically producethe record with the instruments.
So they'll either tell the bandwhat to play, they might pick

(01:07:26):
up a guitar and show them whatto play, or they might just play
the guitar on the record.
So, yes, there's the producerwho dictates as a producer kind
of hybrid with an engineer, andthen there's a producer who does
the actual work.
And then there's even aproducer that just sits back and
does nothing and just taketakes credit.
Tells the engineer and themusicians, you know, go ahead
and make this record, and theysit back and say, Yeah, that's

(01:07:48):
good.
So yeah.

Well, my overall impression was just like
seriously super blown away.
I'm not saying that justbecause I know you.
I don't know what I would sayif I didn't like it.
I'm not very good at disguisingmy feelings.
Nice.
If my mouth doesn't say it, myface normally does.
So I thought it was really coolthat like you you go through
each chapter, you read all thesethings, you get practical ways

(01:08:15):
to apply the information thatyou've just learned.
And then gold, there's a 30-dayaction plan in the back.
So if you read it and you werelike, okay, now I gotta put some
of these things into practice,there was a free resource guide.
So you cite multiple siteswhere people can, like when you
were talking about Canva andartwork, and there were ways to

(01:08:38):
record things, like you justcited a whole bunch of things.
And I thought, okay, when I'mdone reading this book, well,
actually, when I was abouthalfway through, I was like, I
should start writing down allthese resources.
I'm like, this is so good.
And then I got to the end ofthe book and I was like, oh my
gosh, he has a whole resourceguide back here.
So everything that you cited,there's a whole list, like just
add your fingertips at the back,like you already did the work

(01:09:00):
for the people, like so smart.
And then you included the pastbooks.
I thought that that was supersmart because maybe you're
reading and maybe they're like,Yeah, I do want to apply this to
my business.
And it's like I said, sometimesyou finish a book by an author
and you're like, I like how thisperson wrote, or I like the
directness, or you know, I mean,this book is so easy to read.
Oh my gosh, you're just turningpages, which I'm a super slow

(01:09:22):
reader.
And so it made me feel like Iwas flying through the book.

I'm a super slow reader.

And it's so it really made me feel good about
myself.

I have to write the book in the way that I think.
Matter of fact, the very firstbook I ever wrote was a book
called Pro Tools A to Z while Iwas teaching at the college, and
my students were nice enough topurchase my book.
And one of the students inclass one day said, I can hear
your voice when I'm reading thisbook.

Yeah.

Because I literally write the book the way I would
talk to you.

Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.

And including whatever wise ass comments I'm
thinking of.
Who was that comment on my wiseass comments tonight?
I don't know.
I don't know.
So good.
Who was it?
So good.

I just like seriously cannot say enough.
I mean, like, you were tough,but you were encouraging towards
the artists who think that theycould just waltz right in if
they were good looking or theyhad a good voice, they thought
they were gonna make it.
Maybe not, maybe not, becauseso much, right?

Jessica.
Jessica said that.

Jessica, yeah, the wise cracks.

Yes, yes.
There's so many things that ittakes for an artist to truly
make it, and most don't.

Well, and honestly, I mean, I feel like
we're looking for manuals inlife, right?
Like we're looking for a manualhow to run your house, we're
looking for a manual, how to bea parent, looking for a manual,
how to be in a marriage.
If you are trying to make it inyour career as an artist, this
is really a no-brainer manual.
Literally read this book andstand out, or don't read it and

(01:11:05):
fade out.

Says it right there in the title.

I know.
I can't express enough howimpressed I really truly was.
And I love that you includedprevious guests that you've had.
You even put little bios inthere.
Like, you are such a class act,it kills me.
I just, I, I just, I was justimpressed.
I don't know what else to say.
I don't know how you got allthat information into this book,

(01:11:31):
but this is literally if you'retrying to make it in Nashville
as an artist or maybe in anotherfield.
This will tell you how to standout.

It's about the person, it's not about the the
craft they're practicing.
Canvas what you was used to doartwork.

Right.

You know, Canva is a free online tool, and it's so
powerful, people don't even useit to anything close to what
it's worth.
I mean, I I use it every day.
I do too.
My wife is a professionalgraphic artist and photographer.
She grew up on Adobe products,Photoshop, Illustrator, all

(01:12:09):
those things.
And now when she needssomething independent, she goes
to Canva.

Yeah.

And she logs into my account and ruins up my ruins
my whole folder system.
Uh but yes, Canva is verypowerful.
But it is, it's about how anindividual makes it through an
industry.
And this particular example isjust uh the music industry, but
it's how to stand out, how tomake yourself different.

(01:12:35):
You know, we talked on the showthe story about the intern who
painted the wall and stood up.

Yeah, yeah.

So I put that story in the book.
That is one of the examples ofwhat you need to do.
He could have just sat thereand played video games in the
studio with all the otherinterns, and nobody would have
ever noticed or said a word,nobody yelled at him, nobody
would have cared.
Yeah.
But he didn't.
He opened up his computer, heworked on Pro Tools in the in

(01:13:01):
the lobby, and then wheneverybody went home and he was
the only one left in thebuilding, he picked up a
paintbrush and finished paintingthe walls of the studio.
And that made him stand out.
Standing out is what got himthe gay working for one of the
biggest producers in the world.

Well, I think you should finish that story
because just hearing that hepainted the wall, it could leave
you being like, why did thatmake him stand out?
So finish that story.

He was a student of mine.
He asked me if I can get him aninternship.
I said, sure, he had a specificstudio in mind.
So I called that studio, I gothim an internship.
He showed up, and all of theinterns were just playing video
games, which is common.
It's something they did andthey wait to be called on.
So they play video games, andthen the producer will say, Hey,
can you go get us food?

(01:13:46):
And they'll run and get food,you know, before DoorDash was a
thing.
Yep.
Hey, can you go in the bathroomand clean the toilet server
mess?
Whatever.
That's what the job of theintern was.
So he went over there and hewas disappointed.
And he came back to the schoolthe next day and said he wasn't
gonna go back.
And I asked him why, he told methat whole story, and I just

(01:14:06):
made the suggestion take thecomputer we gave you, go sit at
the front desk, open it up, workon the laptop, do a school
project.
I don't care.
Just show that you're workingon the industry software.
And he did.
And then they asked him to workthe night shift.
He came back disappointed againbecause nobody was gonna be in

(01:14:28):
the building.
It was just gonna be him.
So I told him just stick to theplan.
And he went there and he stuckto the plan.
Now he took things a stepfurther on his own with no
guidance from me.
He went in there, he sat at thedesk.
When everybody went home, therewas a painter who left at
around five o'clock, and he gothalfway through painting this

(01:14:48):
wall.
And this intern, a student ofmine, picked up the paintbrush
and finished painting the wall.
And when he finished paintingthe wall, happened to be one
person left in the studio.
It was the studio owner, whohappened to be one of the
world's largest producers.
He walked through the studio,said goodnight, and left.
But the next day, that producerasked the studio manager, How

(01:15:12):
did you get the painter to staylast night?
And he goes, I he didn't.
He left before I did.
So found out who it was, andthe next night the producer, the
owner of the studio, went up tothe intern and said, Hey, who
asked you to paint the wall?
And he said, Nobody.

(01:15:33):
He goes, Well, why'd you do it?
He said, I wanted to beproductive.
And that guy was so impressedby that that he offered him the
opportunity to come sit in on asession and see what a real
session was like.
So he did.
And when he did, he didn't justleave it at that.
He went a step further.

(01:15:53):
He anticipated what thatproducer needed, because that
was a producer who was also anengineer.
So he produced and engineered.
So he was very, very busy whenhe was in that studio.
He could not be interrupted.
This intern sat there in theback of the room and
anticipated.
So he would go get what heneeded before he needed it.

(01:16:13):
He'd have it ready for him.
If they needed a new microphoneplaced out there, if they were
gonna have a guitar player jointhe session, he would go set up
the microphone.
He would do it all before beingasked.
And that producer again, beingso impressed with this guy, he
hired him as his assistant on afull-time basis.

Love it.
Love it.

To me, those are the things that make people stand
out.

Well, you know, I was reading another book about
branding, and they were saying,you know, what do you think is
more important, results orreputation?
And they basically shortened itdown to saying you would think
results, right?
So we would think like thesepeople that are making it big
have all these pre-qualifiersthat they've met certain
milestones.
And they said, no, it'sactually reputation.

(01:16:59):
So it's what people think ofyou.
Perception is what is reality.
And so I think that's a lot ofwhat your book says is how do
you get people to perceive youas already bigger than what you
are?
Mindset, tough love, resources,like it was just hands-down,
fantastic, easy read that Iwould recommend everybody to go

(01:17:22):
out and get a copy.
Oh, and if they get one on thewebsite, you'll sign up for
them, right?

I will.
And the reason for that is notjust for my sake.
The book, it's dedicated to mydaughter who's going through a
medical challenge.
And if you buy the book off thewebsite, the money goes
directly to my daughter, to herfund.
For example, she needs aservice dog, she just got the

(01:17:50):
service dog and the training andall this stuff.
It's going to pay for all ofthat.
That's a very expensive processthat is not covered by
insurance.
It was like $30,000 for thisfor this dog in the training.
So if you buy the book from thewebsite, 100% of the money just
goes to my daughter for thatpurpose.

Pretty cool.
Love it.

But to take your comment a step further about
what people think of you, thereputation, yeah.
The key thing is it's whatpeople think about you and what
people say about you when youare not around.
Yeah.
That's what matters most.
That's what branding truly is.
I know branding gets a bad rap,the word branding, but all it
means is reputation.
What is your reputation sayingabout you when you are not

(01:18:33):
around?
When you leave, what are peoplein the boardroom saying about
you?
When you leave, what are peoplein the studio saying about you?
What are people on the stagesaying about you?
Or the venue hall?
Everybody has an idea, aperception of who you are.
That matters more thananything.
So, like you said, yes, youcould be the person that gets

(01:18:54):
results, but if you're a crappyperson that gets results, nobody
wants to be around you.

Yep.

Or if you're stepping on everybody around you
to get results, then nobody'sgonna want to be around you.

And nobody's gonna support you to get to the
next step.

Right.

You're gonna have to tread water that much harder
just to get upstream.

Personally, I don't believe in that.
I think you get what you get inlife by what you help other
people get.
Yes.
So we do the show, we don't justdo it for our own sake.
We like doing it, it's fun.
Yep.
But we do it to promote otherartists.
We do it to promote the artiststhat come on our show.

Yep.

That's that's the value of the show.
It's not for us, it's for them.

Yep.
All right.
Well, when you're not writingbooks this weekend, what are you
gonna be doing?
Or this week?

Well, this week.
This has been a very busy week.
Yes.
As you can tell tonight, we'reuh doing a show on a Thursday.
That's because we had alast-minute booking because this
was an artist who had verylimited time and we wanted to
talk to him.
So this artist, Johnny James,came on.
He's on the road, he's touringaround, so we had an opportunity

(01:20:12):
to get him on, and we didn'twant to pass that opportunity.
As a matter of fact, he was intown last week, and I had a
chance to see him play live overat Laurie's Roadhouse, one of
my favorite venues.
And it was a great show.
I brought my daughter Lucy, themiddle child, the one that
seems to go to all these shows.
I I don't do it on purpose, Iswear I don't.

I do hear stories he offers to the other
children.

I do offer to a matter of fact, well, Bella.
I took Bella, yeah, I can'ttake the baby just yet.
Yeah, I did take Bella to seeHailstorm on multiple occasions
now.
But Lucy, I took her to seeJohnny James over at Laurie's
Roadhouse.
So we talked to him last night.
One of the things we talkedabout was his his um performance
at Laurie's Roadhouse.

(01:20:57):
Yeah.
But that night there were over ahundred, hundred and fifty
bikers.
I mean, there was some benefitor something for this group of
people.
And my daughter, we showed upand there were so many
motorcycles, and all we could dois look at all the motorcycles
because they all have likeartwork.
Some of them are justbeautiful.

(01:21:18):
Yes.
And they, you know, they paintthe gas tanks and stuff.
It was it was like going to acar show.

Mm-hmm.

So before we got in there to the venue, we went
around and looked at all thebikes.
Then we go in the venue, andthen there's all the the bikers,
and they just think she's thegreatest thing ever because
she's tiny.
And then Johnny James gets upon stage, he's performing, me
and my daughter are watching.
We get again great seats, thankyou, Johnny.

(01:21:45):
And we're right up front, andhe can see my daughter, and
there's line dancing going on,and it was just fun.
But then halfway through, hecomes off the stage and walks
right up to my daughter andhands her a guitar pick and
tells her, Hey, I don't know ifthis is your first concert or
not.
Little does he know.
Yeah, I don't know if this isyour first concert or not, but I

(01:22:06):
want you to have this.
And he gave her a guitar pick,just the nicest thing ever.
Yeah.
In the middle of his hisperformance.
And he ran back up on stage andfinished.
I was like, okay.
My daughter's like, How did howdid he know to do that?
But it was just fun.
He was great.
So we had that opportunity tosee him, and we had him on the

(01:22:27):
show last night, which was avery, very fun night, a very
good conversation.

Agreed, solid dude.

And then Monday night, we also had a very what I
will call entertaininginterview.
He was definitely a character,Eugene Rice from the band
American Mile, the lead singerof American Mile, lead singer,
guitar player.
He was animated.
He was, which made things somuch fun.

Yeah, yeah.
He was he was fun.

So I believe his episode will be out tomorrow.

Yeah.

He'll be out tomorrow.
And Johnny James will be outMonday.

So yeah, that's awesome.
I'm looking forward.
He's actually coincidentallygonna be very close to me on
Tuesday night.

So we planned that.
We told him he had to do it.

He's actually from a town right by me, and so
his dad was like, You gotta playsomething when you're down
here.
So he's gonna be playing in thepicture set, and I will be
there front and center, checkingit out.
Looks like a good time.
And he's got a great voice.
It's just that much moreentertaining, and I'm just like
I'm always proud of them, like aproud mom, you know.

(01:23:38):
Like, you're doing out there,you know.
I just feel excited for them.
So it feels good to go supporthim.
You have to send a link uplounge always every Tuesday.
So good freebie on there fornetworking if anybody's
interested.
And next week I have Jamescoming out, the author of Purple

(01:24:00):
Rain.
So he did like a life of Princekind of thing.
So that'll be out nextThursday, but I think this
weekend we got busy family stuffgoing on.
So that's what we're up to.
What else are you doing thisweekend?
Anything else?
Any more music?

Before we we leave the topic, you say
coincidentally, Johnny's gonnabe down in that area and
performing at this bar orwhatever it is.
Local pub.
Local pub.

Local locals pub.

Locals pub.
It's not that coincidental orcoincidental because he owns a
whiskey company.
And I'm sure he's down therepromoting whiskey at this this
bar.

I don't know if he is.
I think that he's bringing somedown for his dad because his
parents still live down here.
So I think he was bringing itdown for that because I said,
would I be able to find itsomewhere here in Florida?
And he said, Next week you can.

Right.
He's coming down to promote it.

Yeah, I guess.
Maybe we'll find out.

We'll see.

But I know he's bringing some, and I know I'm
getting to get to try some, soI'm excited about that.

Yes, I'm very interested in trying it as well.
Not just because it's whiskeyand I would like to try it.
Living here in Kentucky, I trywhiskey or bourbon all the time.
I bet you do.

I bet you do.

And I never did before I moved here.
It's just like the thing, it'slike, hello, nice to meet you.
Want to try some bourbon?
I mean, it really is that much.
I mean, every different.

It's kind of like that down here, like, oh, it's
a bright sunny day.
Would you like to have acocktail with me?
Right.

Would you like to have a sea breeze?

Yeah.

But yeah, so a Sun Cruiser.
But the whiskey that he likesand what he was drinking before
he created his own whiskey wasJack Daniels Fire.
He said, because he didn't likeFireball, Fireball was too
sweet.
Fireball, not really whiskey,but close off.
Whiskey drink.
And I love Fireball.

(01:25:59):
Because I love too sweet forme.
I love the hot cinnamon.
I mean, hot, spicy, anything Ilove.
Ay, ay, yay.
Yes.
That's why you like Numerol.
However, you know, I go to awing place, I like in the
hottest you can possibly makethe wings.

(01:26:19):
Yeah.
So anything spicy.
But to me, Fireball has thatcinnamon spicy taste to it.
Jack Fire, same thing.
That cinnamon taste.
But what he has done is he hascreated a smoother version of
the two of those.

With a smoky element.

With the smoky element.
Now I'm curious to see whatthat adds to it.

Mm-hmm.

I am too.
I'm leaving a open mind to it.
He developed the smoky elementbased off of a smoky old
fashion.

Yep.

So I would like to see what that tastes like.
I am looking forward to it.
He said he would bring me abottle next time he comes
through town.

Yeah, that's cool.

I'm going to hold him to that.
We'll probably reach out to himevery day until it happens.

Okay, Jay.
Okay, Jay.
Yeah, I'm gonna bring you one.
Okay, Jay.

Okay, go away.
And he's coming to town again.
I say to town, four hours away.
He's gonna be up in Akron.
Is it Akron?
I thought it was Akron.
He's gonna be up in Top Ohio.
Look on his website.
I believe it's Akron, and he'sgonna be opening up for the Oak

(01:27:29):
Ridge Boys.

Okay, good.
Look it up.

You keep doubting me.
But yes, he's gonna be openingup for the Oak Ridge Boys in
Upper Ohio.
I would like to go because Ilike it's right next to great
strip clubs up there.

Gee.

Oh, sorry.

This is a family show.

Is it?
Yeah, as you say that topless.
I love that.
Anyways, I would like to seeScotty again.
You know, for for a friend ofmine who lives not too far from
me, I only see him when he'sperforming near me.
He keeps saying, Yeah, let's goto dinner, let's go out and do

(01:28:14):
this, let's hang out.
No, we only see each other, youknow, before show.
We hang out on a tour bus, youknow, we go to dinner and then
hang out on a tour bus untilit's time for him to go on
stage.
Which is great.
I love doing it.
But it seems like that's oddthat the only time we see each
other is on a tour bus.

I mean, it's kind of cool.

But yes, so this time, not only will I get to see
Scotty, get to see William LeeGolden, who is awesome, but I'll
also get to see Johnny James.

Well, he is not listing his Ohio.

You would have to look up the Oak Ridge Boys.

Oh right.
I knew that.

And then Ron Fairchild is gonna be coming on
the show, and he's the keyboardplayer for the Oak Ridge Boys.

Nice.

I don't know if that'll happen before or after
the show in Akron.

But tour, tour, Dave.
Oh, I can't wait.
It doesn't listen here either.

Uh-huh.
Sure it doesn't.

It doesn't.
What the heck?
Cedar Prayer.

The Oak Ridge Boys are playing in northern Ohio.
If you're anywhere in thenorthern Ohio region, go see the
Oak Ridge Boys.
Come say hi, I'll be there.
Four, four and a half hourdrive to go see the Oakridge.
Don't keep saying it if you'renot right.

(01:29:49):
I am if you're not 100%confident.

Oh, I'm 100% cotton.
Tune into this.

100% cotton.
Tune into the episode on Mondayto find out where the Overage
Boys will be playing.

You don't have to tune in because it's going to
be in Canton.

I'm just going to say it's safe to say Northern
Ohio.

Oh my goodness.
All right.

To be fair, they're they're pretty close to each
other.

Are they?
It sounded like it when I waslistening to the other podcast
that was that was talking aboutdifferent towns.
They were talking aboutCleveland, Canton, and Akron.

Yeah.
Yeah.
Cleveland's a lot farther on.
It's not that far.
It's the big city.

Yeah.

Alright.
Well, hey.
Shall we crash it?
We can crash it again.

Let's crash it.
Let's let's uh obliterate it.

Well, let's do it.
All right.
We have reached the top of thehour, which does mean we have
reached the end of the show.
If you have enjoyed the show,please tell a friend and Miss
Tiffany.
If you have not.

Tell two.

Tell two.
You can reach out to both of usover at jfranzy.com and we will
keep this or any otherconversation going.
We're going to stay here tillfour in the morning.
So please feel free to cometalk to us.
You can also find our socialsand you can find out where the
Oak Ridge boys are playing.
Because as soon as I find out,I'm going to put it on there.

You guys, we're going to end the show, but we're
not going to be done talkinguntil we find what this concert
is.

Figure out where the Oak Ridge Boys are playing.
So bad.
Alright, well, like I said,find our socials, find anything
you want over there.
It will all be at jfrenzy.comand probably be in the menu.

The drop-down menus.
Drop-down menus.

I love her like a bad rash.
Like a kidney stone.
I love her like a kidney stone.

Oh.

Miss Tiffany, I hate to say it, but I'm going to ask
anyway.
Do you have any final words forus?

Of course.
Crew members, goodbye for now.
But you can stay connected withus on the socials.
Enjoy your week, and we'll seeyou back here next time.

On that note, folks, have a good night.

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