Rascal Flats Hits the Road, Best Indie Bands, and Country Music News

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Ever wondered what it's like to navigate the hidden tunnel systems of Nashville with a celebrity in the backseat? Join us for a thrilling recount of chauffeuring Joe Don Rooney of Rascal Flatts and his wife to the CMA Awards, packed with unexpected twists and the joy of connecting over shared music tastes like Journey. Not just tales of high-profile transportation, this episode offers a peek into the unique skill set and personal stories that elevate a driver to elite status in the entertainment world.

We also take a melodic turn into the indie music scene, spotlighting the sounds and stories of bands that are shaking up the genre. From the nostalgic rock vibes of Fortune to the innovative performances of Sirsy, there's so much creativity to celebrate. The journey continues with stories of young prodigies like Billy Gilman and reflections on the fleeting nature of early stardom, all wrapped up in a tapestry of music love and industry insights.

And for those who like a touch of health wisdom with their tunes, we're sharing personal anecdotes about tackling family illnesses with home remedies. Whether it’s the benefits of local honey or the calming effects of lemon water, you’ll find our favorite natural health tips mingling with stories of childhood shoe sales and Johnny Cash’s Memphis home. Tune in for a blend of humor, nostalgia, and practical advice that’s sure to entertain and enlighten.

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Tony Scott (00:05):
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I am Jay Franze and this isyour Backstage Pass to the Music
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Tiffany Mason (00:42):
folks, the Loretta to my Conway Miss my
beautiful Miss Tiffany Mason youalways give the sweetest
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to do.
All right, my friend, before weget started, let's talk about

(01:18):
this question of the day.
Question of the day today bestor favorite indie band.
Best or favorite indie bandband.
So I want you to be thinking ofthat and anybody else that
would like to comment, please doso.
All right, let's just jump in.
I got a story I want to tell youtonight.
We mentioned the cma awardslast week, the lack of cma

(01:42):
awards anyway, and we've talkedabout a few of these things in
the past, but I just kind ofwant to bring up a memory that
it sparked.
There was a while back I wasworking a CMA award show and my
job for that night was to driveJoe Don Rooney Joe Don Rooney,
the guitar player for RascalFlats.
So I was to drive Joe DonRooney and his wife from their

(02:04):
house to the arena and then downthe red carpet and so on, the
things we would do for the awardshow.
My first time ever working withhim, because in Nashville you
had to be one of the more elitedrivers.
There was only two of us thatwere qualified to drive the
celebrities myself and thisother guy named Jason, so we

(02:26):
would drive them and RascalFlatts was his client.
I had other clients, but thisone was his and he was unable to
do the show that night, so heasked me if I would do it.
I said sure.
So I ended up driving Joe DonRooney and his wife.
Well, we're driving on the waythere and he gets a phone call.
It's in a Suburban, so I mean,he's literally right behind me

(02:49):
on the passenger side, and hiswife is directly behind me and I
can hear him on the phone.
And he's on the phone with hisproducer, which is Dan Huff.
Dan Huff is one of the mostfamous producers in the world.

Tiffany Mason (02:58):
I have heard that name before.

Jay Franze (03:00):
Yeah, he was the guitar player for the band Giant
and he went on to become by farprobably the best producer in
Nashville but one of the best inthe world.
But he produced Rascal Flattsand I could hear Joe Don on the
phone and he was saying you know, man, are you going to be at
the awards show to support ustonight?
And he must have said no,because you can immediately see

(03:21):
the reaction on his face and hewas visibly upset.
Oh, no.
Again, my first time spendingany time at all with him, so,
but he was visibly upset.
So he's like come on, man, youwere there last year, you went
for Keith Urban, can't you comesupport us?
And whatever.
He must've said no, sorry,can't do it, whatever it was.
But he gets off the phone andhe is now like red upset.

(03:44):
He's he's very upset and on theback of the headrest we used to
have iPads where people canclick on it and they could see
their itinerary for the nightand what restaurants they're
going to, what the menu might beand all that type of stuff.
Well, when he clicked on theiPad, it came up with the
wallpaper which is a picture ofhim playing guitar and he went

(04:05):
off.
He wasn't happy about it.
So he he says to me he goes Jay, this isn't your car, is it?
And I said, no, sir.
He goes it's Jason's car, isn'tit?
And I said, yes, sir, why isthat?
And he says, well, there's apicture of me playing guitar on
on this iPad.
I said, oh, and he says, yeah,you wouldn't do that now, would
you?
Without thinking at all.
I said, no, sir, if it was mycar, I'd have Keith Urban on

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there.
And oh boy was that a moment.
He turned as red as a beet.
I mean, he just turned red andhe sat there in dead silence and
I could see the smoke comingout of his ears like a cartoon.
And all of a sudden, out ofnowhere, his wife behind me

(04:48):
starts laughing and laughing andall of a sudden Joe Don goes
you're right, you're right, I'mtaking this too far and he was a
good sport about it, but itcould have gone really bad,
really quick.
I mean, that's just one of thethings you just don't do.
But from that moment on webecame very friendly and I would

(05:09):
drive him quite a bit afterthat.

Tony Scott (05:11):
And.

Jay Franze (05:13):
I would arrange some of his security and stuff for
him and we worked together quitea bit.
And there was another moment wewere discussing the bands that
we liked, so I'll tie this intoour question.
We were discussing the bandsthat we liked, so I'll tie this
into our question.
We were discussing the bandsthat we like, and one band that
we both liked growing up wasJourney.

(05:33):
So we were talking about that.
And so what would happen is,every time Joe Don would get in
the car, he'd have his phone outand he'd be playing me songs
that they're working on, playingme old Journey songs, just
playing things.
And one day he goes Jay, youknow, this weekend's my birthday
.
I said, yeah, he goes, I'mgoing to the Journey concert.
I said, yeah, and he goes, canyou do the security and get me

(05:56):
the car for free?
And I said, yeah, if you takeme to the show.
And we were just joking aboutit.
And he goes yeah, yeah, let'sdo that.
So I said all right.

Tony Scott (06:03):
So I go.

Jay Franze (06:04):
I call my boss and I'm like hey, my client wants
the car free, it's his birthdayand is that something we can do
for him?
And they said, yeah, yeah,that's no problem.
So I said okay.
So the next day I call up JoeDon and I'm like hey, just let
you know we'll get the car.
He goes no, you didn't.
I said yeah, did.
And he goes hold on a secondand all of a sudden he puts his
wife on the phone.
She goes you did not get himthat car, did you?

(06:31):
I said, yeah, yeah, I got himthe car and I could hear him in
the background.

Tiffany Mason (06:34):
I suppose he wants to go to the show now,
right.

Jay Franze (06:36):
And she goes.
You know he can afford to payfor this car, right?
I said I know, but this way Iget to go to the show.
So we laughed.
And Nashville has this tunnelsystem, like from a few blocks
away.
You drive through these tunnelsto get down under the arena and
that happens so that the truckscan load in and out.
You're not blocking the busystreets and the fan base doesn't

(06:58):
even know you're there.
So if they're, waiting outsidefor you to come out of the
building.
They'll never see you.
So we drove down there.
I went parked the it was amercedes sprinter.
I parked the sprinter downthere, we walked into the show,
I escorted him around to wherehe was going, but he had a box
seat and we went up there andhis family was there his mother,

(07:19):
his father and the familyfriends, because it was his
birthday.
They had a big birthday cake,all that.
So the box seat also has liketwo rows of seats that go down
in front of the arena, so youcan sit inside the arena if you
wanted to.
So I was sitting down therewhile he's up there, and every
time his wife would need to gosomewhere, I'd walk with her and
just make sure she's okay.

(07:39):
Well, he came up to me and hegoes Jay, I need to go somewhere
.
I said, all right, I get up towalk me.
He goes.
No, no, no, he goes.
I'd rather you stay here andlook after my family.
I said, sure, so I stay thereand I'm looking after a family.
And all of a sudden and out ofnowhere, there comes Joe Don
Rooney walking on the stage witha guitar to play the finale it
was love and touch and squeezingTim's out and plays that song

(08:01):
and his wife is sitting next tome.
She came and she sat next to medown on the rows of seats there
.
And she brought me a piece ofbirthday cake and just sat there
so I wouldn't be alone and I'msuper nice woman and we're
sitting there and we're talkingand he's playing the song and I
said, man, he sounds really good, doesn't he?

Tiffany Mason (08:22):
And she goes he better.
He's been practicing it on.

Jay Franze (08:24):
YouTube for days now .
Oh, I'm like oh, that's nice.
So it was cool.
You know, I drove him home thatnight.
He was very, very nice aboutthe whole thing and everything,
but it was a good experience.

Tony Scott (08:32):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (08:33):
But the reason I mentioned it is because I saw on
the news today that they aregoing back on the road again.

Tiffany Mason (08:38):
Journey.

Jay Franze (08:39):
Not.
Journey Journey's probably onthe road again as well, but
Rascal Flatts is on the roadagain.

Tiffany Mason (08:44):
Oh yeah, I actually did see that too.

Jay Franze (08:46):
Yeah, they've got some shows going on right now in
Indiana and West Virginia,michigan, but were you ever a
Rascal Flatts fan?

Tiffany Mason (08:57):
Yes, very much.
So I'm a big fan of countrymusic to begin with, but then,
on top of that, I went to schoolwith a guy that I mean, if
something ever happens to thelead singer, this kid could fill
in.
He sounds exactly like RascalFlatts, same kind of flair and
yeah, like yes.
So every time Shane Lawsonshout out Shane Lawson, whenever
he would sing he just soundedexactly like them.

(09:18):
So just an incredible voice,and never saw him in concert or
anything.
But I always think of MayberryStreet when I think of their
songs.
I don't know if that's the nameof the song, but that's the one
I really like.
But they're all good.

Jay Franze (09:32):
Well, all of the guys in the band.
Jay DeMarc is the bass playerthat's in the band.
He has a studio in his house.
We had a guy on the show awhile back named Carl Tatz.
He's an award-winning studiodesigner, builds studios.
He built Bob Bullock's studioand he built my studio, but he
also did the studio at JadaMarcus's house.
So Bob and I went over thereone day and did a recording

(09:54):
session at Jada Marcus's houseand the Carl Tatz studio and he
was a very nice guy andeverything.
It was good night.
And then I've also worked withGary at the Grand Ole Opry.
One night I got to work withall three of them individually,
Never together, never in thesame room.

Tiffany Mason (10:09):
I think it's kind of cool, though.
Now, how do you get to be oneof the top two elite people
allowed to drive the A-listcelebrities around?
How do you get that credential?
A lot of kiss ass stuff.

Jay Franze (10:22):
I was working for one limo company, transportation
company, limo company where wewould do limousines, car service
, tour buses, all of that typeof stuff, and there was another
one in town.
Those two companies merged so Iwas the head driver at the one
company and Jason was the headdriver at the other company, and
when we merged we were the twohead drivers for that one

(10:43):
company.
And when we merged, we were thetwo head drivers for that one
company.
You could be just there for along time and be very reliable
and a well-known person.
But then there's alsocredentials you can get.
So I have security credentialswhere I could escort people.
I could be an armed escort ifthat's a necessity.
First, aid.

Tiffany Mason (11:01):
So you're like the bodyguard, you're like Kevin
Costner.

Jay Franze (11:03):
Yeah, just like Kevin Costner.
Just like him, I mean, when Ilook in the mirror, that's what
I see Right.
Right, but yeah, so I meanhaving the chauffeur's license,
having the CPR training, havingthe firearms training and all of
the things that go along withthis.
That's something mostchauffeurs do not go through.
So I did not get thecredentials to drive the buses

(11:26):
or the trailers, because thatjust wasn't my thing.

Tiffany Mason (11:28):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (11:29):
But I did get all the credentials to do the black
car service where I could do themore elite stuff.

Tiffany Mason (11:34):
Uh-huh.

Jay Franze (11:35):
Because I liked, in addition to making the
arrangements for all this stuff,I liked actually escorting
people and spending time withthem on the events and not just
driving them and dropping themoff somewhere.

Tiffany Mason (11:47):
Yeah, how fun is that?
I think I would be a terribleblack car service driver because
I would fangirl out every timesomebody got in the car.
So my husband worked at BortonSteakhouse as the general
manager, and so he would takecare of a lot of celebrities,
and so they would come in andthen I'd be like, oh my gosh,
what were they like?
What were they like, you know?
But he can, like, keep his cooland not completely lose his

(12:11):
composure, whereas me I'd belike, oh my God, I can't believe
it's you.
They would ask to not have mebe their driver the next time.

Jay Franze (12:21):
I know we've we've talked about that before.
It's not the artists that Ireally ever, you know, would fan
out over, it was the producersand engineers, because that was
my lane.
So, like the Bob Bullocks, theDan Huffs, those type of people
are the ones that I looked up to.
Bob Claremont, one of the bestmixers in the world.
The Lord Algae Brothers, twobrothers that are one of the top

(12:42):
, or two of the top mixers inthe world.
That's cool.
But to close out, rascal Flattshere they are on the road, they
are living their life on thehighway.
But they're going to be in yourworld in April, beginning of
April, they'll be down in.

Tiffany Mason (13:00):
Florida.
Oh, that'd be a good time.
Lots of times the big groupsplay at a place called Daily's
Place and it's actually like aprotected outdoor amphitheater.
But what happens is theconcerts start at like 7 and so
everyone starts to show uparound like 5 and then, or maybe

(13:20):
6, but the sun is setting andit shines right into the two
sides and just scolds you untilthe concert starts, and it's
brutal.
So April would not be bad yet.

Jay Franze (13:32):
So you might have to look into that April 3rd at
Estoril, florida, I hope.

Tiffany Mason (13:38):
I said that right Estoril.
I don't know.
I've never heard of it before.

Jay Franze (13:41):
And April 4th Orlando, orlando, april 5th.
Orlando Orlando, april 5th,jacksonville.

Tiffany Mason (13:49):
Stop, there you go, does it say the venue.

Jay Franze (13:52):
Does not.

Tiffany Mason (13:53):
Oh, okay, I'll have to look into it more.

Jay Franze (13:56):
It does not, but it says it's brought to you by Live
Nation.

Tony Scott (14:00):
And.

Jay Franze (14:00):
I have a Live Nation thing I just read about this
week that we'll bring up onanother show once I get more
information about it, but it'svery interesting.
It ties into a lot of the stuffwe've been talking about lately
.

Tiffany Mason (14:11):
Okay, cool.
Well, something we did talkabout lately was the Music
Awards being canceled.
They are now saying that moredetails have developed.
That is due to Paramount andSkydance merger.
So somebody within the mergersaid you know what, let's pause

(14:34):
this and let's revamp it andoptimize it and make it amazing
and bring it back, but let'sleave everybody hanging in the
meantime.
So they have merged and theyhave decided to put the music
awards on hold.
So that's the heads up on there.
Well, the watershed musicfestival is returning to the

(14:56):
gorge amphitheater.
I'm not familiar with it, thepacific northwest, so I believe
it was up somewhere up there.
The headliners are going to beJason Aldean, dierks, bentley,
bailey Zimmerman, and they'reset to take the stage for three
days of unforgettableperformances and one of the most
scenic venues in the country.
So it must be kind of cool,like, uh, the Red Rock is what I

(15:18):
have in my head.

Jay Franze (15:20):
Red Rock's an awesome venue.

Tiffany Mason (15:22):
I've never been.
I got to get out more.
I got to get out more.

Jay Franze (15:27):
That's all right.
Sometimes it's good just to belocal.

Tiffany Mason (15:30):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, someone who's not beinglocal is Dierks Bentley.
He just announced that he hashis 2025 Broken Branches Tour
and he's kicking it off inAustin, hitting more than 30 US
cities.
So if you're a Dierks Bentleyfan, look up the Broken Branches
tour and find out when they aregoing to be in your, when he is

(15:51):
going to be in your neck of thewoods, and you, too, can see
Dierks Bentley perform.

Jay Franze (15:57):
Dierks Bentley.
I used to play hockey withDierks Bentley in Nashville.
I played hockey my whole lifeand apparently he did as well.
We both played in the men'sleague in Nashville.

Tiffany Mason (16:07):
Well, we actually went to a hockey game on Friday
, friday, saturday, on Saturdaywe went to the Iceman hockey
game down here.
Now, being from the Midwest, Igrew up going to hockey games
and my husband, being fromMinnesota, grew up going to
hockey games, playing hockey.
We had our kid in the things.
But yeah, it was nice to, youknow, just have a night going

(16:28):
out watching the guys on the ice.
We only got one fight, though,and that was kind of
disappointing.
So I like a good drag out fightthat was.
I just remember that from beingkids we get peanuts and then we
would just fight, fight, fight,fight.
So we've seen some good ones,and they actually went against
the Orlando Solar Bears.

Jay Franze (16:47):
There you go.
When I think of Orlando, Ithink of Solar Bears.

Tiffany Mason (16:52):
Yep, so we won.
The Icemen, jacksonville Icemenwon.
There you go.
Well, on another note, blakeShelton.
He is actually going to serve asan executive producer on an
upcoming country program thatthey are tentatively titling the
road.
So this is kind of a weirdthing.
So I guess that they're goingto have an artist with them, and
each town that they stop onthey're quote-unquote on the

(17:14):
road.
So each town that they stop at,you have to win over that crowd
to quote-unquote advance to thenext town.
So I thought that that soundedinteresting.
Let let's see here.
It promises to give viewers abehind-the-scenes look at life
as touring artists and itscompetitors.
Hop on the bus and learn tonavigate all the complexities
that come with life on the road.

(17:35):
And then Taylor Sheridan isgoing to be one of the producers
as well, and he was a producerof Yellowstone and he says no
more shiny floors and studioaudience.
This is where the rubber meetsthe road.
Literally Get in the van, go tothe next town and win the crowd
.
Do it enough, you become thenext leader.
Simple as that.
So I think that sounds reallykind of cool.

Jay Franze (17:57):
I would watch it.
I'll watch it at least once.
Yeah, yeah, see if it's good.

Tiffany Mason (18:02):
I like the premise.
Yeah, yeah, see if it's good.
I like the premise.
Yeah, yeah, I'm very jealous ofpeople who, you know like,
think outside the box, likethey're thinking like, okay, I
could make another show like theVoice or America's Got Talent,
right, but he's taking itcompletely out of the box and
going okay, so you want to befamous, you want to be the

(18:22):
celebrity.
Let's see if you can hang beingon the road and the sleepless
nights or going over curbs whenyou're in your bed, funny girl.
So I don't know, I thought thatwas kind of kind of interesting
.
I I don't think that they hadum released like uh, you know
airing date.
So keep your eyes and ears openand see when it's coming out

(18:46):
speaking of um thinking outsideof the box.

Jay Franze (18:48):
Do you happen to see the special of saturday night
live, the snl 50th yearanniversary?
I?

Tiffany Mason (18:55):
am so sad that you are asking me because I have
so many good memories ofsaturday night live and I was
very sick last week and myhusband was in the process of
catching what I have had.
So we were on the couch and Iwas like, ooh, you want to watch
the Saturday Night Live specialand he was like no.
I was like Well, and so tonight, today, around like I don't

(19:19):
know 630.
I was like I should watch thatSaturday Night Live special.
But then another show that I'vebeen watching was right there
staring at me, but it's on mylist.
So tell me what happened, whatI missed out on.

Jay Franze (19:29):
Well, I didn't see it.
Oh, okay, good, here's twothings from that.
I didn't see it, so maybe wecan watch it this week and talk
about it next Okay.
However, you mentioned thinkingoutside the box and I know that
show.
There was no other show likethat at the time.
No, other sketch comedy typeshow.
No, improv style comedy show.
So it just made me think of theshow, but maybe that is

(19:51):
something that we can go aheadand watch and then circle back
and discuss next week I wouldenjoy that.

Tiffany Mason (19:57):
Um, I will challenge you though, because I
used to watch a show at mygrandparents house called the
mclaughlin show I think don'tkill me if I'm wrong, guys, but
it had oh gosh, rhoda, you knowthat girl.
And then it had the lady withthe black thing on her, a net
net on her hair, and she neverwanted the old guy to sit next
to her on the bench and she'dlike thwap him with her purse if

(20:21):
he got close.
And then the lady oh god, I cansee their faces.
I can't think of their nameswhere she's on the phone.
She's like one ring eating, tworing eating.
You don't remember this show?
I?
do not oh my god, you don'tremember it that much either,
though I just don't know theactress's names, but lily tomlin
, there we go, lily tomlin,goldie hahn was on it.

(20:42):
It was like late 70s or 70s ishand they would dance to their
hippie music and then they'dfreeze and then they'd go into a
skit and then when that skitwas done they'd kind of laugh or
they'd open these little holesin the wall and they'd be like
hey, sarah, what did you know?
Blah, blah.
It was like they would telllike a joke to each other.

(21:02):
So it was kind of improv.
So, yeah, I'm interested.
Kenny, george, do you guysremember this show?
Because I loved it.
I loved it out at mygrandparents house.

Jay Franze (21:13):
I don't think that's where I fell in love with
comedy, but I do love to laugh,so much love to laugh also not
only if you guys remember theshow, but if you're willing to
watch the saturday night livespecial so we can discuss it
with you guys next week as well.

Tiffany Mason (21:27):
Yeah, yeah, do it , do it.
Oh, george, yes, georgeremembers it.
It was so good.
It was so good.
I got a lot of memoriesflooding my brain right now of
being in my grandparents' housein the living room, and I think
like we were on the plasticfurniture.
Seriously, oh my gosh, seriously.
Oh, they have this huge pillow,huge pillow, and you know, back

(21:50):
in the day they they did likethe uh, it's like yarn poke
pillows or something, and thenit makes like a design and I
remember my grandparents hadthis huge one and jenny and I,
my sister and I would fight overwho was going to sit on that
pillow while we watchedMcLaughlin.
Oh my gosh, I feel like callingmy whole family right now, can
I?

Jay Franze (22:08):
go.
Is this show done?
George is the best.
I'm just saying he's willing todo homework so we can talk next
week.
Mvp, mvp, I'm just saying Kenny, come on, buddy Got to put the
time in MVP.
I was just saying Kenny.

Tiffany Mason (22:25):
Come on, buddy Got to put the time in.
Okay, Megan Maroney she ispartnering up with Lane Boots
for her very own line, limitededition cowgirl boots.
They are dubbed the Smoke Show,so if you try to go find them
somewhere, you're looking forthe Smoke Show.
I always thought it wasinteresting.
I actually forgot until rightnow.

(22:46):
I used to sell shoes atJCPenney and it was always so
interesting, all these memoriesgoing around your head.
It's all coming back to me, guys.
I had no energy last week, butthis week I am here for this
show.
Okay, I am here for you guys.
Entertainment, watch out.
It's coming at you, I used tobe a shoe salesman as well.

(23:08):
You did.
Wasn't it always so interestingto see the names of the shoes?

Jay Franze (23:12):
Yeah, no, I didn't have names for shoes.

Tiffany Mason (23:15):
The men's shoes don't have names.

Jay Franze (23:16):
I don't know it was the black pair or the brown pair
.

Tiffany Mason (23:20):
No, no On the boxes.
You know how there's the femaleshoe, the Mary?
No On the boxes.
It would be like how there'sthe female shoe, the Mary Jane.
So, like on the box it wouldsay Mary Jane, but then there
would be other ones and it'slike I need the Bellagio in size
seven.
They're just they all havedifferent names on them.
So I don't know.
I always thought that was sointeresting, anyway, okay, so
they are matte white boots.
They have intricate embroidery,scalloped edges.

(23:43):
I am a sucker for scallopededges.
Okay, love it.
Okay, very feminine, anyway,and I think she's very feminine.
She's like almost country pinupgirl.
She's got that, you know, veryfeminine vibe to her.
Anywho, wait, a minute.

Jay Franze (23:59):
I like where you're going with this, keep going.

Tiffany Mason (24:02):
It's got a functional zipper on the side
and a heart-shaped heel pin anda blue boot bottom imprinted
with Maroney's name.
So very much like the famousred shoes.
Now hers are going to have blueon the bottom, and I love it.
I am here for it.

Jay Franze (24:19):
I like the famous red shoe, the soles that are red
.

Tiffany Mason (24:24):
Oh, women everywhere are screaming at me,
right now.
George is screaming at youright now oh my gosh, I can't
think of it.
Jimmy choo is what's coming tomy head, and I know it's wrong.
Anyways, yeah, okay, I don'tknow, I'm not gonna come up with
it jimmy choo no, they're not.
Yeah, they are.

Jay Franze (24:44):
Someone said that I'm looking at it right now?
No, they're not I am looking atjimmy choo's with red you guys,
we're gonna have our first onair fight I'm not saying it's
the one we're thinking of, but Iam looking at jimmy choo's red
bottom shoes christian louisvuitton's.

Tiffany Mason (25:03):
There we go, that's what they are.
Okay, now that we have thatsettled, our brains can move on
okay well, you might want togive jimmy a call, because
jimmy's copying he's got a wholeline of they're nothing but red
bottoms, every color.

Jay Franze (25:17):
He's got pink shoes with red bottoms, yellow shoes,
red bottoms, black shoes, redbottoms well, you know what they
say copying is a form offlattery.

Tiffany Mason (25:25):
Do we know who's copying who?
Oh, he's definitely copyingChristian Promise Women, if
you're listening please back meup.

Jay Franze (25:34):
I see that here as well.

Tiffany Mason (25:36):
Yes.
That's why I thought LouisVuitton.
But they're Louis Vuitton.
Yeah, sure Christian, louisVuitton, yeah, okay, all right.

Jay Franze (25:47):
So, yeah sure, christian louis vuitton, yeah,
okay, all right, so anywayschristian's got sneakers red
bottom sneakers sorry, johnnycash.

Tiffany Mason (25:53):
okay, so his former home in memphis is up for
sale.
The men in black lived in the1950s.
The man in black oh my gosh, Iread that wrong when I when I
copied and pasted this too.
It's the man in black as weknow him.
Gosh, I read that wrong when Icopied and pasted this too.
It's the man in black as weknow him, lived in the 1950s
ranch with his family, and thehome has been fully refinished,
though I mean it feels like,well, duh then, is it even the

(26:17):
home he was in?
It's got a new roof.
It's got new finished floors,like what You've got to maintain
it.

Jay Franze (26:27):
I roof that's got new finished floors, like what
you gotta maintain it, I know,but it's not like it's not the
sink that he.

Tiffany Mason (26:30):
He watched.
It should be restored.
It's not the stove that he hecooked his dinner on right to be
fair, he wasn't cooking his owndinner anyway, so yes, so it is
going for the low low price of4.5 if you are in the market to
buy a house in Memphis $495?

Jay Franze (26:51):
That seems low, it seems low.
I mean it's in Memphis, whoknows what the house is like?
I'm sure a house from that timeperiod is probably just a small
two or three bedroom ranchstyle house.
Yeah, so in that case it'sprobably high it three bedroom
ranch style house, yeah, so inthat case, it is a ranch style
house but, yeah, we need to seea floor plan.

Tiffany Mason (27:10):
We need to know how many bedrooms, how many
baths to justify this price.
Okay, I thought this was sointeresting, a little thing that
I came across, okay, so it ishow young kids have been when
they've gotten their first bigbreak.
So I just wrote down a couple.
Billy Gilman he was 11 yearsold.
He debuted a single one voice.

(27:34):
He was on the top 40 countryhits when he was just 11 years
old and he was nominated for agrammy the following year.
The album that followedperformed well, but his career
stalled in subsequent projects.
But he later appeared on thevoice in 2016 and he was a
second place winner on a showcalled Sundance Head.

(27:54):
I thought that was really like11 years old.
That's one year older than yourdaughter right now, jay, can
you imagine her?

Jay Franze (28:04):
Yeah, that's true.
Can you imagine I was thinkingabout the wrong daughter?
I'm like no, you're way off.

Tiffany Mason (28:10):
No.

Jay Franze (28:11):
Yeah, there's another daughter in there too.

Tiffany Mason (28:12):
yeah, there's three of them, people.
Okay, so the next one.

Jay Franze (28:17):
Wait, wait, wait, I got one to throw in there.

Tiffany Mason (28:19):
Okay.

Jay Franze (28:20):
Josie Saul was on our show.
She was on a little while back,12 years old.

Tiffany Mason (28:26):
That's crazy.

Jay Franze (28:27):
She looks and sounds like a full-blown adult.
I that's crazy.
Looks and sounds like afull-blown adult.
I mean, if you just heard herrecord you would never know it
was a 12-year-old.

Tiffany Mason (28:35):
Oh crazy.
Well, someone else that's onthe list that makes me think of
that is Leigh-Anne Rimes.

Jay Franze (28:41):
Oh yeah.

Tiffany Mason (28:41):
With the song Blue, and she was only 13.

Jay Franze (28:44):
Really?
Yeah, I didn't realize she wasthat young when that was out.

Tiffany Mason (28:48):
Yep, and then they list taylor swift.
I'm just gonna say taylor swiftyeah, they list her at 14 years
old, but her big hit that'swhat they're talking about is
like when these kids had theirbig hits, and it was with the
song tim mcgraw when she was 16okay yep, and then I don't know
this song, but old people likeyou probably know, marie osmond

(29:15):
don't fire me.
Don't fire me.
She was 14 when she releasedpaper roses and then another one
that that I saw.

Jay Franze (29:23):
That can I can I just throw out there, yeah, the
first first album, or the firstalbum or 8-track or something
it's the first one I ever ownedwas Donny and Marie.
Yes, you say yes, like that,like, yeah, everybody owned that
one.
Nobody, especially where I grewup, listened to Donny and Marie
.

Tiffany Mason (29:42):
I was going to ask you what did you buy it for
what song?
I'm sure it was a gift from mymother or something, but I had
it and I wore it out.
Oh, like the tunes coming offthat vinyl.

Jay Franze (29:54):
There you go.

Tiffany Mason (29:56):
Well, the other one is Tanya Tucker, 13 years
old when she sang Delta Dawn,delta Dawn, tanya.

Jay Franze (30:05):
Tucker is another one.
You know, big in Nashville,especially at her time, and a
lot of my friends have had theopportunity to work with her or
for her, and they all havestories, every one of them.
Matter of fact, I'm fairlycertain they've all been on the
show once before, so we'll haveto get them back, maybe together

(30:26):
as a group, for nothing butTanya Tucker stories.

Tiffany Mason (30:30):
I like it.
Well, not on here.
But I did go thrifting over theweekend and or I guess, during
the week, and I picked up thecarpenters record and god, she
had such a beautiful, beautifulvoice.
And they weren't very oldeither.
They did list some otherartists, but they were like 1920

(30:51):
and I thought you're almost anadult by that point.
I guess you are technically anadult at that point, but these
guys seemed a little bit morenoteworthy, so I thought that
was interesting.

Jay Franze (31:00):
Very good, no, I'm with you.
So you want to move on to thequestion of the day?

Tiffany Mason (31:07):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (31:08):
Best or favorite indie artist.
All right, george Kenny gonnaneed your input here.
Anybody else that would like tochime in?
We would love to hear it.
So, best or favorite indieartists I'm going to start with
maybe a couple of my own, okay,and then maybe you can add some

(31:28):
input of your own, and thenwe'll go to the list here.
Give people a chance to chimein.

Tiffany Mason (31:33):
Okay.

Jay Franze (31:35):
Some of my favorites the band Fortune.
They still play to this day,but I went to high school with
them.
These are kids that I went tohigh school with and they were
just absolutely amazing.
In high school they were a rockband.
They played.
When I was in high school theywere a rock band.
They played.
When I was in high school theystarted playing covers.

(31:56):
They would play, you know, anyof the hair metal stuff or all
that type of stuff, but theygrew up to be more of the
classic rock sounding band.
They play a lot with the bandBoston.
When the band Boston kind ofdismantled.
A lot of those guys are now inthe band Fortune.
So they are a very, very goodband.
I always liked them.

(32:17):
One of them sadly passed away afew years back, which is very
sad.
However, another band was SlyBoys, very similar.
They worked together withFortune a lot and they were a
very hair metal style band andthey got to.
You know, they took off likenobody's business.
The thing I remember about themmost is they didn't play any

(32:37):
shows or let anybody even knowthey existed until they were
ready.
I mean, they got together, theypracticed, they rehearsed and
when they were like at theirpeak.
That's when they let everybodyknow they existed.
So they took off like nobody'sbusiness.
Big lesson learned there for mewas some people say that's a
little much to work that hardand try to be a perfectionist,

(33:00):
but they did it and it paid offbig time for them.
And they ended up travelingaround the world.
They went to, I remember theywent to Japan, and while they
were in Japan playing, that'swhen grunge happened and that's
when they kind of came to a haltthere.
And then the last one I'll bringup for right now is a good

(33:20):
friend of mine from Albany, newYork, the band Circe.
When I first saw them they werea five-piece band like any
other rock band, but through theyears of playing they were
replacing band members sofrequently that they'd finally
decide you know what, let's justdo this on our own.
And the two key members, whichis Melanie Kramer and Rich

(33:41):
Labouti Rich played bass,melanie was the singer.
Well, rich's harebrained ideaone day was well, let's just do
it the two of us.
He goes you're going to playdrums and I'll play guitar.
And she's like how are we goingto do this?
But they did it.
So they formed a duo and sheplays drums, sings, plays bass

(34:05):
with a trigger pad and plays theflute.

Tiffany Mason (34:09):
Oh, wow.

Jay Franze (34:10):
All as she's playing throughout the song.

Tiffany Mason (34:14):
What is a trigger pad?

Jay Franze (34:18):
It is a rubber pad, almost like a practice drum kit.
It has like four different padson it so she can program the
four to eight pads whatever size.
She has to be a different bassnote.
So as she's playing the drums,she can swing over and hit the
note on the bass and keep goingback and forth.
And Rich, being a bass player,learned how to play guitar and

(34:42):
then he plays the bass guitar aswell, depending on what song
they're playing.
But he has bass pedals at hisfeet, like on an organ where
they would have bass pedals, sowhen he's playing guitar he can
play the bass notes with hisfeet.

Tiffany Mason (34:58):
Okay, now I know that you gave me the details and
they're going to be in Florida.
You guys, they actually havesome really great locations that
they're going to be at.
So if you are in Florida, lookthem up, it's S-I-R-S-Y.
So if you are in Florida, lookthem up, it's S-I-R-S-Y.
But when you are explaining tome what they look like, I'm
envisioning back in the day, youknow, where somebody would have

(35:21):
the big drum in front of themand then they'd have like
strings on their feet that wouldpull other instruments and like
the clappers on the fingers.

Jay Franze (35:31):
I didn't even know what to expect.
I remember when Rich first cameto me and he said oh, you got
to come out and see us playtonight and I said oh yeah.
I said you guys got a newdrummer and he goes no, no,
we're just doing it ourselves.
I said what do you mean?
You playing an acoustic gig andhe's like no full sound.
He goes.
If you close your eyes you'dthink full band's on stage.
Oh my gosh, I was like okay, soI went and they are awesome.

Tiffany Mason (35:56):
I mean awesome.
I'm really excited for hervoice.
I am so excited.

Jay Franze (35:59):
Several albums out, I mean she is a singer like
nobody's business.
Talented band.
They write amazing songs.
They're pop rock songs, butthey are very, very good.
If you ever have theopportunity to see the band
Circe, please check them out.

Tiffany Mason (36:16):
I had to reach out to her to.
One is a house concert and so Ihad to reach out to her to get
details for the concert, and shecouldn't be any nicer.
Oh yeah, I mean she was, yeah,super nice, so I'm excited to
meet her.

Jay Franze (36:30):
Yeah, no, they're very good, and since then they
went on and got married.

Tiffany Mason (36:36):
So life on the road together is okay.
I'll say Good for them doingwhat they love with the person
that they love.

Jay Franze (36:41):
Yeah, I mean they've been doing it for a long time.
They've been together playingsince I had my studio in New
York.
I mean it's been a long time.

Tiffany Mason (36:50):
Mm-hmm Mm studio in New.

Tony Scott (36:50):
York.
I mean, it's been a long time.

Jay Franze (36:51):
I mean I left New York and went to Nashville and I
worked there for 20-somethingyears, so they've been together
for over 20-something years.

Tiffany Mason (37:00):
Yeah, that's awesome and they're always on
the road, always on the road,never stop playing.
Gotta pay the bills.

Jay Franze (37:10):
Alright, let's hear some of your favorites.

Tiffany Mason (37:15):
One that I don't know if you remember ever
hearing was the Ting Tings.
No, they say a lot of words.
They're not rapping, but theysay a lot.
There's a lot of words to theirlyrics.
They come at you fast.
I don't even know how I wouldexplain them.
I guess pop-ish, pop, rock-ish,I don't know, with a twist of

(37:38):
folk, but I don't know.
They just say they call me her,they call me Stacy.
Do you know the song?
That's Not my Name.
I know that song.
That's Not my Name.
Okay, anyways.
So I name.
I know that song.
Is that my name?
Okay, anyways, so I love themis that the band?
is that ting ting uh-huh okay soI do know the song okay.

(38:00):
Okay now, speaking of peoplewho, like fortune you said,
played in high school, we had agroup that played in our high
school that were mimickingthemselves off of sublime green
day and Bush.
So when you say that, I'm sorry, the group that you said went
to Japan and then when they cameback, grunge had kind of taken

(38:21):
over sly boys.
Yes, cue my generation withgrunge.
And so I just remembered.
I remember a lot, of, a lot ofgetting out of school like
you're driving home all thewindows are down, these songs
are on.
So they were feel good and theywere all over MTV, you know.
I mean, it was still very muchpopular in the 90s and just

(38:45):
catching the videos of the songs.
And then another one wasSmashing Pump love, fleawood,
mac um, landslide, and thensmashing pumpkins covered it,
and so I just fell in love withtheir version of it.

Jay Franze (39:01):
So I've never been a big smashing pumpkins fan, but
I don't know.
This has been in the news a lotlately.
Okay, billy Corgan and BillBurr, the comedian Bill Burr
from Boston.
Billy Corgan, I think they'refrom Chicago-ish area.
And apparently they arebrothers, so their father used

(39:26):
to be on the road.
You know what he did?
We don't actually know, but hewas on the road, had two
families and named his two kidsBilly.

Tiffany Mason (39:38):
He'd never get them mixed up then.

Jay Franze (39:39):
No, so they went on Howie Mandel's show and Howie
Mandel thought it would be funto bring out Billy Corgan during
his Bill Burr interview.
Uh-huh, and it did not go.
Well, it did not go well at all.
So if you want some I wouldn'teven say entertaining moment, as

(39:59):
in they don't like each otherIf you want some uncomfortable
moments, pull that up on YouTubeand watch the clips from Howie
Mandel does stuff.
And it's uncomfortable.
It's very, very uncomfortable.
At one point Howie Mandel goesI'll leave you two alone to talk
through things and he got upand he walked out of the room

(40:20):
and left those two to talk andthey sat there not knowing what
was going on.
It was uncomfortable.

Tiffany Mason (40:27):
Whoa.
No, thank you, yikes.
Well, I might have to look itup, though.
I mean, can't hurt yourself.

Jay Franze (40:35):
George says bright eyes.
I've never heard of them, but Iwill check them out for sure.
Suzanne, susie, something I'mgoing to call you Susie because
that's what I called mygrandmother.
Her favorite, or her suggestion, is one of my daughter's
favorite bands, and that is theArctic Monkeys.

Tiffany Mason (40:57):
Oh, I saw them on the list a whole bunch.
I didn't get a chance to checkout if I knew any of their songs
.

Jay Franze (41:01):
Yeah, the Arctic Monkeys.
I know their songs only throughmy daughter.
I probably would have never evenheard of them if it wasn't for
her, but we went to see them.
I took her and a friend of hersto Nashville to see them at an
outdoor amphitheater and it waspretty good.
It was a pretty good show.
They did a good job Still notone of my favorites, but it was
fun.

(41:21):
It was a good time, and to bewith my daughter and her friend
and see them having a good timelike that was it, was really
really fun.

Tiffany Mason (41:28):
That's awesome.
John says the strokes.
Yeah, I looked them up.
One that was on there a lot wasDeath Cab for Cuties and I
actually interviewed somebodyabout their soul becomes body.
Soul to body, soul becomes body, I think in December 2020.
So it was during my firstseason.
Episode 22 was SeanO'Loughoughlin.

(41:50):
He has a podcast as well, butwe ended up connecting over that
song and he said his memoriesassociated with it was he had
been panicking to get thesediapers and he was like all up
in arms.
I think it was diapers.
It could have been formula, butI think it was diapers no, it's
for a child, jay and um.

(42:10):
That song came on and somehow itjust like soothed him and he
felt like everything was rightwith the world again.
So if you want to check thatout, it's in Memories of the
Beat, episode 22, season one.

Jay Franze (42:21):
All right, I'm going to take time back to Orlando
now for the moment.

Tony Scott (42:26):
Yay, when I lived in Orlando.

Jay Franze (42:28):
It was a very, very big independent rock scene at
the time and we all know VaughnRay.
We've talked about him.
They were the first guest onthis show and great band, one of
my favorites.
But before they were Vaughn Ray.
They were Vaughn Ray, it wasjust spelt a little differently
so, but they were an independentband and as an independent band

(42:48):
they were selling out the hardrock arena there and I mean I
just remember they had linesaround the block, but I remember
also seeing them when I was theonly person in the bar.

Tiffany Mason (43:01):
So as we joke about me talking with mom, right
, I was going to say sellingmerch with their mom, yeah.

Jay Franze (43:06):
So selling it, just looking at it, but yeah, so I
mean they were definitely one ofmy favorites.
Matchbox 20 was also one of myfavorites when they were.
Tabitha's Secret was theiroriginal band and I actually
have a cassette recording alittle demo that they had out
which has the song 3AM on it as.

(43:27):
Tabitha's Secret.
So it's a whole different feelI mean completely different feel
of a song, but they were great.
And then another band I reallyliked from Orlando at that time
was this guy called Average Joeand Average Joe.
I don't think he ever becameanything but anything major, but

(43:48):
I do remember because at thetime there was no social media.
If there was social media thisguy would have killed it because
he being in Orlando, a verytransient tourist town, and he
would just play all theseresorts and just build a
following like nobody's business.
But I think he won bestsongwriter of the year a couple
times, best solo artist of theyear, but he played folk style

(44:11):
songs and I mean he wrote them.
He was very, very good and Iheard him on the radio, not a
song being played.
I heard him being interviewedand I went and checked him out
and he was just awesome.
I just went back and saw themseveral weeks in a row, just
became really good friends withhim and a couple of the other
band members and I reallyenjoyed them.
But he fell off the face of theearth.

(44:33):
So he changed his name to CleoBlack and fell off the face of
the earth.
But I really did enjoy hismusic at that time and he is
cousins with Keanu Reeves.
Oh, small world, I found thatout later in life and he was
also in the movie ForgettingSarah Marshall.
So if you ever watch that moviewhen they're in a resort, he

(44:57):
was the guy playing the music inthe resort, so he was the
musician in the background.

Tiffany Mason (45:03):
How cool.

Jay Franze (45:04):
Yeah, he was a great artist.
I miss him.
Yeah, I'll have to check himout again someday.

Tiffany Mason (45:12):
Well, one that was not on the list but I had on
my show and I thought that theywere very talented.
They went on to do aKickstarter, do a whole album.
They did some crazy tour theBearded Laramie and they're kind
of a folk rock music.
It kind of has you know, musicis like bare naked ladies, where

(45:35):
there's not a big story beingtold but it just kind of rolls
off your tongue fun.
And some of their songs arelike that where they kind of
just roll off your tongue easyand they're just kind of fun to
sing along to, and so I enjoytheir music as well.
They're current, they they'renow and then, Jay, are you ready
for it?

Jay Franze (45:53):
I'm ready, girl, tell me, bring it on.

Tiffany Mason (45:56):
What finally made the list.
I have been trying to shout outREM.
Every episode, every freakingepisode.

Jay Franze (46:05):
I don't know why, but they're on the list.

Tiffany Mason (46:08):
They're on your list.
Do you remember when we broughtup Phil Collins?

Jay Franze (46:13):
Were you going to call REM an indie band?

Tiffany Mason (46:16):
I don't know, maybe they started that way.

Jay Franze (46:19):
Well, yeah, they definitely started that way.

Tiffany Mason (46:21):
I'll give you that they started that way.
Yeah, they got credit for it.
So I was like, oh, I have toput it on the list because, jay,
every time we have a PhilCollins song, I'm always like,
yes, losing my religion, and I'mlike that's REM.
So I felt like it finally had amoment to shine on the Jay

(46:43):
Franze show Nice.

Jay Franze (46:46):
Another band that I really liked, and I like
probably the name better thanthe band, although the band was
very good make Lisa rich.
I just thought that was likethe best name for a band.
Yeah, they were also out ofBoston.
People I worked with in therecording studio went on to
start a band and that's what itwas called it's awesome all

(47:07):
right, let's see here Joshua,joshua says the backseat lovers.

Tony Scott (47:14):
Ooh scandalous.

Jay Franze (47:16):
The backseat lovers Now.
They are not a group of peoplethat you'd picture in the
backseat, for sure.

Tiffany Mason (47:24):
No, no, no.

Jay Franze (47:31):
Let's see here the war on Drugs Brian.
Brian says the War on Drugs.
George says I looked up theband the Ting Tings.
They're good.
I don't know why, george, Idon't know why you would look
that up.

Tiffany Mason (47:47):
They're good.
Their one hit Wonder album wasgood.
I had it on a playlist.
Okay, I probably made a mixedCD is what I probably did.

Jay Franze (47:57):
When I think of an indie band, I think of bands
that like never made it, likethey were true indie bands.
Yeah, a lot of these bandspeople are talking about are,
like you say, rem.
Yeah, they were an indie bandat one point.
Yeah, but they made it.
They had a record deal.

Tiffany Mason (48:15):
Yeah, I even Googled.
I was like, what makes you anindie artist?
Because I thought that I hadthe correct understanding until
I saw all these bands on thelist.
Then I was like maybe I don'thave the right you know
parameters to be saying, but no,I was on the right track.
It's just, these peopleactually made it to the radio

(48:37):
people actually made it to theradio.

Jay Franze (48:38):
When I think of an indie band, what I think of is a
band who does not havefinancial support behind them
and they're doing it on theirown.

Tiffany Mason (48:44):
Yeah, I also thought of Brett Baldrige.
He's doing that right now.

Jay Franze (48:48):
So even though they're on the radio, they can
still be an indie band.
Even that band Circe.
They had a record deal at onepoint and left it.
It just wasn't for them.
They were able to do everythingthat they were doing on their
own, so it's like why do theyneed that?

Tiffany Mason (49:03):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (49:04):
The anxiety, jill says the anxiety.
The Rex, steve the Rex.

Tiffany Mason (49:16):
I don't know.

Jay Franze (49:17):
Steve, you don't know Steve, or you don't know
the Rex.
I don't know Steve.
You don't know Steve or youdon't know the Rex.

Tiffany Mason (49:20):
I don't know either, steve.
We gotta get to know you.

Jay Franze (49:24):
Alright, one more that I'm gonna throw out here,
just because it's my favoriterestaurant.
So I'm gonna have to look it upto see what band it is, but
it's Twin Peaks.

Tiffany Mason (49:34):
Oh, now Do you have a Twin Peaks near you For
the food right?

Jay Franze (49:38):
Jay, you know I actually like it for the food.
Now, I'm not saying I don'tlike the atmosphere as well,
because I do.

Tiffany Mason (49:48):
Yes.

Jay Franze (49:48):
Yes, but Twin Peaks is new to my area, about four
years old at this point.
But when I first moved here andmoved to this house, I came
here about a month or two.
I usually move a month or twoahead of the family so that way
I can get the house.
I can set it up Like this house.
I redid the floors before theymoved in that type of stuff.

Tiffany Mason (50:08):
Yep.

Jay Franze (50:09):
And then they take care of the moving truck and get
everybody to the new house.

Tiffany Mason (50:14):
This is very similar to how our family
functions.

Jay Franze (50:16):
Yeah, families that move a lot have to have a plan,
so that was our plan.
So when I was here, I was goingto go grab some dinner and I
was heading to Hooters.
This is making me look very badtonight.
Yes, I was heading to Hooters.

Tiffany Mason (50:34):
Yes, tell me more where you mail shoving a sick
pig and there's nothing wrongwith Hooters.

Jay Franze (50:38):
Their wings are fantastic.
No, they're not really thatgood anymore.
But I was on my way to Hootersand I saw Twin Peaks right
across the street.
So I was like, oh wow, awesome.
So I went down there and therewas a guy at the door with a
clipboard.
It was like some'm like huh,what kind of twin peaks we got

(51:00):
at this place.
So I walk up to it andapparently it was opening night.
So it was invitation only yeah Iwent there on opening night
invitation only and he goes, doyou have an invitation?
And I was like no, sir, andhe's like well, tonight's our
opening night.
We're doing a soft launch night, a soft launch, doing a soft

(51:21):
launch at twin peaks sorry, oh,I picked up on it the words, the
words, they come out I knowsometimes it's not even worth
mentioning yeah so, anyways,they're doing their soft launch
at twin peaks and I was likeokay, and I turned around to
start walking away and he goes.
well, wait, wait a minute, hegoes.
How many are there?
I said just myself.
He goes, come here, I'll letyou in and get your table, if

(51:42):
you don't mind my waitstaffpracticing on you tonight.

Tiffany Mason (51:45):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (51:46):
I'm like no, that's perfectly fine with me, I'm okay
with that.
So I went in and they broughtme a limited menu.
So they sat me down limitedmenu and they brought out some
food.
And they were very friendlypeople, nice people.
Not just the waitresses, buteverybody else that was part of
their establishment was very,very nice.

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So I had a very good time andthen when it came time to leave,
they said bye, no, check nonothing.
Because, it was all free forletting them practice, I'll make
an invitation, all that stuff.
I was like this is the bestplace ever.
So I told my wife I said, whenyou come to town and they did,

(52:27):
they came to town- and we had aTwin Peaks in Nashville, but I
didn't like it.
It wasn't good, so, anyways,twin Peaks should be our sponsor
.
They're not our sponsor yet.

Tiffany Mason (52:36):
Yeah, but you know what?
Come on, yeah, we're pluggingyou guys.

Jay Franze (52:41):
We don't need money.

Tiffany Mason (52:43):
We just need wings Anyway.
So when my wife yeah, I knowright.

Jay Franze (52:51):
When my family did come to town, we went to Twin
Peaks and my wife, she loved itand she loved the chicken.
We went back every week, two,three times a week.
Oh wow, I'm like this isfantastic.
Thanks, wife and my kids likedit and everything.
But we haven't gone back inprobably a year or so at this
point.

Tiffany Mason (53:08):
Well, you probably burnt yourself out, we
probably did.
But it was fun it was good.

Jay Franze (53:13):
Now we're on to Texas Roadhouse again.

Tiffany Mason (53:16):
Yeah, Good for you guys.
You got to go early when theyhave the senior menu Four
o'clock.

Jay Franze (53:23):
I already have my AARP card, so I've had that for
quite a while.
I've had it for six years now.
Can you believe that Six yearsI've had the ARP?

Tiffany Mason (53:34):
I've had the ARP card.

Jay Franze (53:36):
I didn't think you could get it that young.

Tiffany Mason (53:38):
You lucky bastard , yeah, lucky.
Well, it may seem a littleboring, but I thought I would do
everybody a solid.
So first of all, you know, lastweek I was sick and then our
daughter left for DC and I waslike, sweet, we're going to have
this awesome week together.

(53:58):
So, first of all, I was so sickI couldn't even plan for us to
go to CRS, which was such abummer, and I'm glad we didn't
go.
I'm still not a hundred percent, so I don't know if I would
have had it, you know, if itwould have been the experience
that I want it to be, and Icannot imagine getting on an
airplane with all of the sinuseverywhere.
You know, yes, so we go out.

(54:22):
Sunday is when she left thatmorning.
Sunday day was pretty good,monday was pretty fun, and then
he had monday off, okay, andthen tuesday, just mayday,
mayday, mayday, just all he wasgoing in just crashed.
He tried to go to work, theysent him home and he literally
sat on the couch all day and Ican't remember the last time I

(54:43):
ever saw him do that.
You know they always joke thatmen get like the man flu.
My husband does not, he doesnot.
You don't even know he's sickand this man was on the couch
for a whole day.
I really can't remember thelast time I've ever seen him do
that.
So whatever's going aroundright now is for real.
So I thought I would throw outsome little weird tips and
tricks, okay, because it's kindof tis the season right, wait a

(55:07):
second Before you go there.

Jay Franze (55:08):
Let me just tag on to that for a second.
Yeah, yeah, tap out, tap out.
My wife is probably coming downwith it as we speak.
She hasn't felt good.
All day long she's beencoughing, sneezing, all the fun
stuff, but she never gets sick.
When I mean never act sick.

(55:28):
When she does get sick, she'sjust not a big mom's can't yeah
mom's can't, and even today shewas sick but still took care of
the kids.
I drove them around but stilltook care of the kids.
I drove them around but shetook care of feeding everybody.
Yep, when I get sick, I don'ttypically show signs of being
sick, so like I'll be sick andI'll be sneezing and coughing,

(55:49):
but I still go to work, I stilldo all the things I'm supposed
to be doing and never typicallycomplain about it.
So when I get really sick tothe point where I am strapped to
the bed or complaining, it'sbad.

Tony Scott (56:03):
So then my wife.

Jay Franze (56:04):
That's all they see.
So then they're like well, whenyou get sick, you just act like
a big baby.
Now my kids are saying it.
You just act like a big baby.
It's like you don't see all thetimes I'm sick and I just go on
with life.
But they make fun of me prettyheavily right now.
So even see all the times I'msick and I just go on my life,
but they make fun of me prettyheavily right now.

Tiffany Mason (56:25):
So even my daughters are getting in on it.

Jay Franze (56:26):
Oh yeah, you you're a big baby.
When you get sick it's likethanks, what?
Oh man, my family loves me.

Tiffany Mason (56:28):
It's great.
No, I'm always so impressed howhe fights through.
I am kind of a baby about it.
I mean I push through and like,try to still be the mom and you
know, still do the laundry.
And when I was so sick, hHannah was getting ready for her
DC drip and I was like I got todo the laundry.
I told her I'd have it done.
I got to do the laundry but Iwas not in any shape to be
bending over.
So I think this is interestingwhen you, your sinuses are all

(56:51):
full and you bend over and yourforehead hurts, it's called a
banker's headache my wife mustbe a banker.

Jay Franze (56:57):
She doesn't like to bend over either.

Tiffany Mason (57:00):
I'm pushing my luck with these jokes, but
they're just right there I know,I know low fruit, low hanging
fruit, okay, so I googled atlike two or three o'clock in the
middle of the night and I waslike what never do?
No, but I was trying to findany kind of like natural remedy.
I was coughing so much and sohoney, which we all know local

(57:22):
honey local honey.
Yes, it helps with allergies ifyou take local honey, but also
it has anti-inflammatoryproperties, which I didn't know
that.
So, like you know, you'recoughing and everything, and I
took that spoonful of honey,which I like honey in stuff, but
I don't like a spoonful ofhoney but I did it and, sure
enough, I mean, for like twohours I was able to fall asleep,

(57:43):
stay asleep until, of course,the coughing came back, but it
was nice, okay.
Now the next one.
I know you and I talked about,but it was gargling warm salt
water.
So when you do this, it helpsto reduce inflammation in your
throat, which is often causedlike a scratchy, sore feeling
that you get when you'recoughing.
Okay, but consider, let's seehere, it is a home remedy that

(58:06):
can provide temporary relieffrom cough by thinning the mucus
totally gross and it kills someof the bacteria in your throat.
So you're getting rid of someof the illness and you're
helping yourself to flush yoursystem.
And then I really loved this.
So I wouldn't say I'm crunchygranola, but I definitely
believe that a pill is notalways the answer to like
whatever our sickness orwhatever is, although I do love

(58:28):
me a pill that takes pain away.
Love that Okay.
So it says, like in Germany, ifyou're sick, doctor says go for
a walk in the forest.
And then it says, like inGermany, if you're sick, the
doctor says go for a walk in theforest.
And then it was like in Spainif you're sick, the doctor says
go and get 20 minutes of vitaminD.
And it was like we need tostart like normalizing some of

(58:48):
this nature remedy, you know,for our illnesses and stuff, and
so on Valentine's Day, onFriday, the first day that I was
kind of okay.
But that night when my daughtersaid, hey, let's go to Sunrise,
I was like, oh dear Lord.
So I'm like, okay, take one forthe team.
Tiffany, she's leaving for DC.
It was Valentine's Day.
She wanted to go with herboyfriend, so I picked him up,

(59:10):
okay, and I thought this mightactually be good for me.
I'll tell you what I felt sofreaking good the rest of Friday
.
Now, saturday, I took a stepback, but Friday I felt pretty
dang good.
So I think there's something tobe said.
That nature.
We don't give it enough credit,but it really is a great remedy
.
So tell your wife to getoutside.
I mean, come on, wife.

Jay Franze (59:28):
She doesn't like to go outside.

Tony Scott (59:31):
For real.
She doesn't like to go outside.

Jay Franze (59:32):
I ask her to take walks and stuff all the time
she's like no Granted right nowit's like 12 degrees.

Tiffany Mason (59:38):
Yeah, yeah, that was kind of part of my joke.

Jay Franze (59:43):
George wants to know if there's one salt better than
another.
We've become a medical show.
This is not medical advice.

Tiffany Mason (59:48):
Yes.
No, we are not doctors.

Jay Franze (59:53):
If you are sick, you have to go see a physician for
medical advice.
With that said, what's?

Tiffany Mason (59:56):
the best salt to get out.
I think it's the Himalayan pinksalt, or I did see that there's
like this insurgence of thisCeltic sea salt.
So I would say both of those,because they have minerals in
them.

Jay Franze (01:00:07):
Have you ever seen a salt farm?
No, I did.
When I was in California, Idrove through a few salt farms.
You can get out and walk onthem.
I mean, it looks like snow.
It's just a salt farm.

Tiffany Mason (01:00:20):
Oh, how interesting.

Jay Franze (01:00:22):
I mean it's like water, you know, it's like it's
just a salt farm.
I mean I don't know how toexplain it.

Tiffany Mason (01:00:27):
So I had a friend who went to Vegas a couple
years ago and they were in themost beautiful water and the
water was on top of salt.
Were in the most beautifulwater and the water was on top
of salt and it looked like theywere in Alaska.
Yeah, you know, cause the blueagainst the white and it was
just amazingly, stunninglybeautiful, okay, well, the last
tip I'm going to give you, whichI am sipping right now, is hot

(01:00:50):
water with lemon.
So these are the benefits ofall those.
Hot water helps to hydrate you,especially during the winter
months.
The vitamin C from the lemon isgood in an accident.
That supports immune functionand skin health digestion.
So it was also saying when Ilooked this up that you can just
like.
I mean, of course, we can drinklemon water anytime we want,

(01:01:10):
but this would be another reasonwhy you'd want to be having
lemon water whenever you want.
Okay, so the lemon juicestimulates the saliva production
and that aids in digestiondetoxification.
The hot water with lemon helpsto flush out toxins from the
body.
I think that is the mostinteresting thing.
If you go have like a massageor if you do acupuncture,

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they're always say a ton ofwater because it will flush
through your urine.
And I'm always like our bodynever fails to like completely
blow my mind like I grew threewhole humans and now they live
and walk on the earth all bythemselves and their body knows
how to make them bigger and likeit's.
It's absolutely mind-blowing.

(01:01:54):
So I think think that that'scrazy, that you have all this
crap in you and then literallycomes out as crap Nice.

Jay Franze (01:02:04):
He took the left.
Have you ever done acupuncture?

Tiffany Mason (01:02:09):
Yes, and.

Jay Franze (01:02:10):
I loved it Really.
Why?
Why did you love it?
Describe the feeling to me orwhat the benefit of it was?

Tiffany Mason (01:02:18):
Okay, well, I've had a couple of extreme bouts of
anxiety and I didn't know howto get rid of the anxiety.
I was like I don't know whatthe hell I'm going to do.
We were on a camping trip and Iwas like when I get back I'm
going to an acupuncturist.
So I go and they stick needleseverywhere.
I personally didn't feel any ofthem, except for sometimes in
my thumb.
She would stick one to my thumband if you use that muscle you

(01:02:42):
can feel it moving or you know,like under your skin or whatever
.
First of all, I liked itbecause it was like a therapy
session.
So you went in there and Iloved the acupuncturist energy
and she was just awesome andamazing.
And so we would chat and shewould say let me see your tongue
, there's something to be saidabout how your tongue looks.
And she could look at yourtongue and go okay.

Jay Franze (01:03:00):
My wife doesn't like my tongue.

Tiffany Mason (01:03:02):
No, are you not using it correctly, jay?

Jay Franze (01:03:06):
Low-hanging fruit, my friend, I'm sure I am not,
however.

Tiffany Mason (01:03:13):
I don't know.
She would always ask to look atmy tongue and then she would go
through.
And I have a chiropractor thatdoes the same thing.
They can touch points and it'llbe tender, and then she'll know
what to stick and thenafterwards she'll touch it again
and it's not tender anymore.
So I don't know, and she didn'talways stick in the same spot.
That's what I tell my wife.

(01:03:42):
I like to be stuck in the samespot.
I tell my wife, I like to bestuck in the same spot, so all
right, well, what time is it?
We're after our jay, the kidsare in bed.
So, um, yeah, and she alwaysstuck different areas and I
always felt better and myanxiety did go.

Jay Franze (01:03:55):
I used to have this amazing chiropractor in
Nashville.
I mean, he was a quack.
He still is a quack.
I go to him whenever I go backto Nashville.
But he was amazing.
Like I would tell him just hey,I got a pain over, like in my
shoulder, and he'll crack a toeand the pain goes away.

Tiffany Mason (01:04:13):
Yes.

Jay Franze (01:04:14):
But he was a quack for sure.
But man away, yes, but he was,he was a quack for sure.
But man, he was in the best ofways.
He was a quack in the best ofways.
And my daughter, her back hurtand I took her to Nashville just
for that and she felt better.

Tiffany Mason (01:04:27):
Well, you know, what's interesting about
chiropractor is I have twochildren.
I have three total, but two ofthem had a bedwetting issue, you
know.

Jay Franze (01:04:37):
I still do.

Tiffany Mason (01:04:38):
Two old.
Well, your chiropractor shouldfix that for you.
So that's what I did.
I took him to a chiropractorand my son.
But he, he got adjusted onetime and he was good for a month
.
He got adjusted a second time.
He was good for three months.
He got adjusted a third timeand he never had to see the

(01:04:59):
chiropractor again.
Now my daughter had to getadjusted for about six months, I
think, and then it stopped.
And so they were saying, likeyou know, you can have a kink or
whatever wherever, and thebladder can't talk to the brain
or whatever.
And so it's like I was saying,you know, like we need to give
credit to more things than justa pill.

Jay Franze (01:05:15):
Yeah, this guy was awesome.
I mean, he was really reallygood at all of that stuff, but
what I liked.
I've been to severalchiropractors and some of them
are a little bit more aggressivethan others.

Tony Scott (01:05:25):
Yeah, but what?

Jay Franze (01:05:25):
I liked about this guy was he would just say you
should be good, Come back if youneed it.
He would never try to set upanother appointment, never try
to tell me I need to be thereevery week or every week for six
years or whatever it was.
But I would go back to himevery time because of his
honesty and all that stuff andhe was really good.

Tiffany Mason (01:05:45):
Yeah, yeah.

Jay Franze (01:05:46):
All right, what else you got for us?

Tiffany Mason (01:05:48):
Well, I just have two more benefits to this lemon
water.
Okay, we're just going to be adead horse.
I hope you guys are ready forit, okay.
So anti-inflammatory properties, which can help reduce joint
pain and swelling, and then ironabsorption.
I need this, so I should bedrinking lemon water all the
time.
I'm actually on like some ironsupplement.
You know you get to a certainage and you got to, you know,

(01:06:08):
have special pills Anyways.
So the lemon can improve ironabsorption from foods.
Wash your hands, oh, and then,being sick, wash your hands.
So I thought it was thecraziest thing during COVID,
isn't that crazy?
You can lick your hands afteryou wash them, jay.

Jay Franze (01:06:25):
Oh, I thought that's how you wash them.

Tiffany Mason (01:06:28):
No, I just thought that was the craziest
thing during COVID, like, washyour hands, wash your hands.
Are we not washing our hands?
No, no, we're not doing that.

Jay Franze (01:06:37):
It surprises me how many men go to the restroom and
don't wash their hands.

Tiffany Mason (01:06:42):
And you have to touch your winky for that, don't
you?

Jay Franze (01:06:44):
Yeah, what I don't understand is why you're not
washing your hands before you goto the bathroom.
That's when you're touchingeverything, just throwing that
out there.
We might want to reconsider howwe do things I mean, usually
chicks aren't touching stuff.
You know, we got a barrier thetoilet paper sure we have

(01:07:06):
somehow taken a really hard liftI mean, that was my whole thing
.

Tiffany Mason (01:07:12):
That was my whole thing.
I wanted to talk about beingsick and I thought that was
riveting toilet paper yes, yes.
So, needless to say, we thoughtwe were gonna have.
I thought we were gonna havethis awesome weekend week, and
now it's been.
I recovered and then he gotsick.
So you know hannah's home intwo days and par for the course,

(01:07:32):
right it's that time of year.

Jay Franze (01:07:35):
I mean my family is sick too, but nothing like,
nothing like all of that.

Tiffany Mason (01:07:42):
Oh, I can't remember the last time we got
hit this hard.

Jay Franze (01:07:45):
I'm sure we will in the next week or two.
I hate February these daysbecause this part of the country
the allergies start in February.
As much as I prefer the warmerweather, I would rather be you
know, boston cold all year round, just so I don't have to have
allergies.

Tiffany Mason (01:08:04):
Yeah, I can appreciate that.
I mean, I will never forgetwhen we lived in upstate for a
very short amount of time andthe first time that, excuse me
the trees had all the polleneverywhere and it was like on
our cars and I was like what isthis yellow?
I could not figure it out.
I'm like what?
What is happening right now?
Because it doesn't do that inthe midwest?
I mean, we have all those treestoo.
In the midwest there's a plentyof trees, but for whatever

(01:08:27):
reason, style of trees incalifornia, it was the almond
trees.

Jay Franze (01:08:32):
Oh, so you drive down the road.
It looked like it would besnowing because it'd be white.
Crazy and I live next to analmond farm and I had the
slingshot so I used to, you know, race through the back roads,
which is all almond farms, whichapparently I'm allergic to.

Tiffany Mason (01:08:50):
Oh, good times, that's all right.

Jay Franze (01:08:52):
Caden buddy.
Thank you, I appreciate thekind words.
We are his favorite show.
I appreciate that George saysmine too.

Tiffany Mason (01:09:02):
I'll take it.
I will take it.
Thank you guys.

Jay Franze (01:09:05):
Appreciate it.

Tiffany Mason (01:09:06):
Me too.
Other than that, I am going tocheck out Circe this week and
I'm going to go check out Robbieand Felix.
I was telling you about them,so that's my big thing.
If you're in the jacksonvillearea and you're listening, it's
women making memories to a beat,and we'll be there from six to
eight o'clock having a drink andsomebody wants to come by and

(01:09:29):
say hello to you no, stay awaystay away yes, yes.

Jay Franze (01:09:34):
If somebody wants to come out and say hello to you,
how should they go about it?

Tiffany Mason (01:09:39):
They should bring their most fun attitude and
excitement for seeing Robbie andFelix come to Palm Valley
Outdoors and get ready to havesome fun.
And if it is too cold which,yes, we have been cold in the
50s at night, which I know, it'sall relative people, but we'll
be inside, so fear not, we'llstill have a good time.
What about you, jay?

(01:10:00):
What's your big, exciting plans?

Jay Franze (01:10:03):
Well, I don't know about plans this week.
I talked to a guy named BlakeTyler.
We mentioned him last week buthis episode released today.
So if you're interested inlearning more about Blake Tyler
aggressive country singer,really really good.
His episode did release today.
And then I spoke with RyeRivers, a fairly young singer
out of Florida, and he'sconquering Nashville.

(01:10:27):
He's doing it.
He already had success as asoul artist, okay, but his true
passion has been country music.
He's already got a really goodteam behind him.
That's how I met him.
His publicist reached out to meand I know he's with a good
team of people.

Tiffany Mason (01:10:45):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (01:10:46):
So that'll be coming up next week.

Tiffany Mason (01:10:48):
Awesome.
Can't wait to check it out.

Jay Franze (01:10:50):
All right, ip6 will be playing at the Vault the.
Vault in Cincinnati.
So if anybody would like tocome out and say hello, they
will be there, I will be there.
Garrett Landers, guitar player,good friend, he will be playing
and I'm sure he will be happyto say hello to anybody that
would like to stop by and sayhello as well.

Tiffany Mason (01:11:11):
Awesome.

Jay Franze (01:11:13):
All right, my friend .
Well, we've done it again.
We have not only blown past thetop of the hour, we are now
back at the bottom of the hour,which does mean we have reached
the end of the show.
If you've enjoyed the show,please tell a friend if you
haven't tell two tell two.
You can reach out to both of usover at jayfranze.
com.
We will be happy to keep theconversation going alright, miss

(01:11:34):
Tiffany, my friend, you haveany final words for us?

Tiffany Mason (01:11:38):
find a local band , go watch.
All right, Miss Tiffany, myfriend, do you have any final
words for us?

Jay Franze (01:11:43):
Find a local band, go watch them.
Let us know how it is All right.
On that note, folks have a goodnight.

Tony Scott (01:11:46):
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