SNL 50th, Best Guitar Players, and Country Music News

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Miss Tiffany, my friend.
Yes, I mean, I think you'restretching it by calling me your
friend, but that's true, truestatement.

Jay Franze (01:24):
Let's start right out of the gate Alright, back in
the 80s, because you know I wasalive during the 80s.

And the 70s.

Tony Scott (01:35):
Go ahead, you got one more decade to go.

Jay Franze (01:39):
Nice.
Alright so I was alive in the60s, but I went to High school
in the 80s, but I went to highschool in the 80s and when I was
in high school, I wanted to bepart of the music business.
So bad that I would join bandswithout having any talent.
So I would join bands and thentry to learn instruments or
learn how to sing or anythingelse.

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That came my way.
Not very good at any of thosethings.
My way, not very good at any ofthose things.
However, I did notice that Iliked writing songs.
So I would write songs, youknow, in the hopes to pick up
chicks and all that type of funstuff.
It didn't work, but that wasthe hope.
You know, you try to write asong for a girl and win her over
, but I wrote a bunch of sappylove songs.

(02:19):
So journey was my favorite bandgrowing up and I used to write
songs, like you know, open arms,Faithfully, those type of songs
With probably a little bit moreof an air supply feel to them
than Journey.
But you know you get the drift.
But I wrote this one songcalled Don't Give Up the Fight.
If you dig hard enough onSpotify I'm sure you can find it
.
It was on an album that gotpublished by a publishing

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company in New York.
It was a publishing companycalled DSM Producers.
Okay, I still have a contractwith them, even though I don't
really put out material anymore.

However, I did put out how does that work?
How do you still have acontract with them?

Jay Franze (02:54):
In case I ever do anything, then they take half my
life.

No, okay.

Jay Franze (02:58):
They're very nice.
People Still talk to them aswell.
I as well, I mean they are verynice all around.
How long has this contract beenin place?
Is that normal Since the 80s?
Yeah, I mean it's been a longtime.

So you just signed your whole life away.

Jay Franze (03:11):
Pretty much.
You know I'm 80.
I was young and dumb.
You know you do what you do youwant it bad enough, you make it
happen.

Tony Scott (03:18):
And that's a whole nother story.

Jay Franze (03:20):
I mean we could take a quick tangent for a minute.
You know everybody talks aboutyou know, keep your publishing
and you do all this stuff.
But when you do that, the onething a publisher can offer you
is connections.
So if you don't have thoseconnections, your music does
nothing but sit in your deskdrawer.
It doesn't do anything.
So for me having thatpublishing company was a very

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big deal, because they put songsin TV shows and movies and that
type of stuff.

Yep.

Jay Franze (03:46):
But this one particular song I wrote Don't
Give Up the Fight.
They placed it in a TV showcalled Saturday Night Live.

Oh my gosh, I've totally seen that show before
You've seen that show before.

Jay Franze (03:59):
Is George here yet?
I haven't checked that yet,george.
Are you with us?
Buddy, george is in the house,so there you go.
George, did you do yourhomework tonight?
Good?

to see you too, George.

Jay Franze (04:13):
Yeah, so this was a long time ago, but they put that
song in Saturday Night Live andthey put it in a skit where
Jimmy Fallon and another actorplayed Paul and John from the
Beatles, and they were sittingat a piano pretending that they
were writing a song.
It was a VH1 special, you know,behind the music type of thing

(04:35):
where they're sitting at thepiano and it's like after years
of these people coming backtogether, they're going to give
us what we finally wanted.
And then the hook of it all wasthey're going to open up a
fried chicken joint.
It had nothing to do withanything musically, but that's
what it was.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (04:50):
But the entire time they were sitting at the piano
it was my song that they wereplaying.

How cool is that.

Jay Franze (04:57):
I thought that was pretty cool and it was probably,
to this day was probably themost money I've received from a
song that was cut or a song thatwas placed two different things
a song that's placed is when itends up in a tv show or movie,
like like this one did, and asong that's cut is when an
artist records your song andreleases it, you know, on their
album well, that's prettyimpressive if you wanted to be

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part of the music industry.

I mean, you've done so many aspects of the
music industry.
What do you?
You've done so many aspects ofthe music industry.
What do you think you've likedthe most?
I mean you said you've donesecurity for them.
You've done producing.
You were Bob's right-hand guyfor engineering.
You probably do some on yourown as well.
You had your own place, likeyou've done it all.
You were a teacher.

(05:41):
Now I'm finding out for thefirst time I I mean, I thought
we were closer friends than that, but you established right at
the beginning that I was pushingit by calling you a friend yes,
yes, yes, it's true.
It's true.
I want to, I want to take itback.
I want to say we're friends, um, but see how the night goes
okay, fair enough.
I'm on probation, so what doyou?

Jay Franze (06:08):
think you've enjoyed the most.
I would say engineering is myfavorite thing to do.
I like working the console,manipulating the audio to get it
to sound, the way that I hearthings in my head.
But I enjoy writing songs.
I think one of the best thingsis when you write your own song
and then you get to go in thestudio with Nashville musicians

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and record it and then you getto hear it all come to life, and
then you also get to produce itand engineer, so you're kind of
doing all of it at one timeyeah, yeah, that's cool.
But we mentioned homework.
We mentioned Saturday NightLive and the 50th anniversary,
but did you have a chance towatch it.

Yes, yes, I did.

Jay Franze (06:52):
Well, I watched it in hopes that maybe you might
see my song or hear somethingabout it.
No, you didn't hear anythingabout my song, they didn't even
bring it up one time, not evenin the commercial.

Tony Scott (07:01):
Rude.

It's a little rude I I mean, we brought it up
on our podcast I mean can wecall somebody?
I mean I don't know the powersthat be.
It was crazy funny.
George said it was crazy funnyand it was really.
I'm like chomping at the bit totalk about all right, well,
let's do it tell.
Tell me something, okay well,first of all, tell me something

(07:24):
good.
So first of all, I want to sayhow I feel about Saturday Night
Live.

Tony Scott (07:31):
Tell me.

Okay.
So after watching all the clipsand all the everything, and I
was watching Melissa McCarthy doone of the sets and I was like
that's it, if I could meetanybody in person from Hollywood
.
That's it.
If I could meet anybody, he inperson from Hollywood, that's
who it'd be.
I would meet Melissa McCarthybecause she's freaking hilarious
and I bet she's funny justabout anything.

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But what I was thinking aboutusually I can tell if I really
like a person because I willenvision Christmas and we both
have a drink and we're likeshooting the shit while the
family is doing whatever.
Yeah, and I had that, I had thevision, and so I was like, yeah
, that's, that's who I would,that's, but before her I had
marcus limonis I don't know ifyou know we can't leave her just
yet I know, I know okay I mean,I've never been the biggest

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melissa mccarthy fan.

Jay Franze (08:18):
I mean I like her.
I like some of the stuff she'sdone.
Matter of fact, when I see heroutside of the world of movie,
when she's in interviews andstuff.
Yeah, she's a little bit morerelatable, more fun to watch.
You'd think she's a betterperson.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (08:31):
But I met her cousin in your neck of the woods.
Oh, do you know who her cousin?

was Orlando no.

Jay Franze (08:38):
It was Jenny McCarthy.

Oh, that would make sense.

Jay Franze (08:42):
Okay, yes, she's beautiful, and what was the?

interaction.

Jay Franze (08:45):
Oh, I'm sure Very beautiful.

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze (08:49):
Yeah, she came to one of the events to sign
autographs for being in Playboyat the time.

Oh, okay.

Jay Franze (08:56):
It was a very good night.
Yeah, I'll say there's apicture of me somewhere with
Jenny McCarthy.

Oh, wow, yeah, no , she's awesome.
I think one of the biggestreasons well, there's many
reasons, but have you ever seenthe meme where can't think of an
actor's name but there's a guyfrom identity theft when they're
both in the car and he keepsturning the channel and there's
like there's two kinds of peoplein the world and it's the one
person driving quietly and theother person and it's her

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singing to every single song andhe keeps turning the channel
and she knows every song onevery channel.
That's me.
I'm that friend.
So, um, I I had that revelationthat if I get a chance, that's
who I'm gonna meet.
I was impressed with how manypeople they actually could fit
into all the skits.
Like, think, over 50 years,that's a lot of people, right,

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and they always have a lot ofpeople in every skit to begin
with.
So then I just thought it waseven more interesting how they
worked so many people into theskits.
I was just really blown away bythat.

Jay Franze (09:56):
Yeah, it was pretty impressive.
Did you happen to notice that?
Oh, yeah, I mean even from thevery beginning, the opening with
Steve Martin, and you couldn'thave picked a better opener than
Steve Martin.
Yeah, he's as funny as any oneperson can be Talented banjo
player and all that stuff too.
I saw him in concert playingthe banjo.
Matter of fact, I also drovehim to the concert.

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Oh, so yeah he came into townand stayed at the only five-star
hotel in Nashville and I pickedhim up at the airport there's
only one.
Yeah, there's only one andpicked him up at the airport,
drove him to the hotel let himdo his thing, then drove him to
the concert and I forget whothere was somebody else famous

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with him, but he was super,super nice about the whole thing
.

I did look up his wife.
She is 20 years younger thanhim, so there's that?

Jay Franze (10:51):
What band is she from?

I play the fifth.
I can't tell you.

Jay Franze (10:55):
We failed you, george Kenny, yeah.

Sorry.
Yeah, I love Steve Martin and Ilove his white, white hair.

Jay Franze (11:02):
He looks just like my dad did.
Oh, love his white, white hair.

He looks just like my dad did.

Jay Franze (11:08):
Oh, really yeah, when my dad was alive that's
what he looked like.
Interesting, I used to say thatand dick van dyke kind of
looked like the two of them.

Oh then your father must have been very
handsome he was.
I don't know what happened hi,kenny, we see you okay.
So I like how many people theyworked into each skit.
And then I thought it was funnythat there was so much pretend
smoking.
What the heck Right?

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Why were they smoking so much?
It just made me laugh.
Maybe because in the 80s theycould smoke, so they were trying
to bring some of that back.

Jay Franze (11:43):
Make it feel like the earlier part of their 50
years yeah, I don't know.

I thought that was kind of funny anyway.
So I hate all the politicalstuff, right like.
I know that they have aplatform and they want to use it
and blah, blah, blah.
But we didn't come there tohear your political stance so I
could have gone without that.
But whatever, it was fine too.
I can also be the person thatsees it, doesn't love it and
keep moving on and stillappreciate the show for what the

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show is.
So I also thought it wasinteresting that they were using
some real cue cards.
Did you did?

Jay Franze (12:17):
you notice in the beginning.
That was really cool but theydid that on on purpose, because
aren't they known for screwingup cue cards?
Like at the very beginning ofthe back in the 70s 80s they
were known for screwing up cuecards.
I think there was even a jokeabout it where they had the cue
cards upside down.

Yes, yes, they did.
Yep, yep.
Okay, I didn't realize that wasa thing from in the beginning.
So interesting there.
I loved that everybody was intheir tux.
You know, the ladies weredressed up and the gentlemen
were in their tux.
I thought that was kind of acool, like when they would pan
to the audience, you know, andyou could see everybody in their
tux was pretty cool, I don'tknow, I like that Very cool,

(12:58):
yeah, and it felt appropriatebecause it was 50 years, so big
celebration.
I did not realize, though,scrolling through YouTube,
looking at some of the videos,if you guys hear anything that
we say and you're like, wait, Ididn't see that and you don't
have.
What is it on peacock?
You can go on to YouTube.
Yeah, you can go on to YouTubeand see clips you can see the
entire three-hour special.

Jay Franze (13:20):
You just have to watch it in five to ten minute
chunks.

Yeah, and they make it pretty easy that you
watch the one and it'll show youthe ones that are queued up or
whatever.

Tony Scott (13:30):
Yeah, in a playlist.

Yeah, it was really easy to watch.
Yes, so if you want to go seethem when we're talking about
anything, that's that, so youcan see everybody in their tux.
Okay, I'm sorry.
Then I thought that thecommercials could almost give
the Super Bowl a run for theirmoney.
Did you see how great some ofthem were?
There was a, I think it was aT-Mobile one and it was an 80s

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hairband and it made me think ofyou 100%.
I was like I wonder if Jay sawthis commercial.
It was so cool because theykind of looked like Kiss.
I mean they were in like theblack leather and their teased
hair.
You know Nice.
Yeah, looked like Kiss.
I mean they were in like theblack leather and their teased
hair, you know Nice, and yeah,so it wasn't always an SNL
commercial, but I'd say 30% ofthem were an SNL commercial.

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So it was kind of funny to youknow, pick up like you'd start
watching it and then you'd belike, oh, this is an SNL
commercial.
Made me laugh.

Jay Franze (14:23):
We have to stop.

Collaborate and listen.

Jay Franze (14:26):
It's not hammer time , it's Kenny time.

Tony Scott (14:31):
We don't want Kenny to need his feelings hurt.

Jay Franze (14:33):
Kenny, we mentioned you earlier.
I mentioned you earlier.
Maybe you need to listen alittle bit better, Kenny.

Yeah, got to be here on time, kenny.

Jay Franze (14:40):
Go back, go back and listen.

Yeah, Do the replay.
So I think one of the reasonswhy I stopped watching Saturday
Night Live became very obviousto me when I tuned into this
50th anniversary.
Because Kenan Thompson drivesme crazy.
He always looks like he's aboutready to blow his cover on each

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joke.
So they start the skit and he'salready smirking.
He already can't hold ittogether, and so that does not
make me laugh more.
That makes me think like whyare you breaking character?
I don't like it.
So it ruins every skit for methat he shows up on.

Jay Franze (15:19):
I don't know it almost.
I mean that happened a lotduring the special where people
were about to crack, yeah, butto me I kind of like it.

I think it's funny when everybody else does
it, but for some reason I thinkbecause of him, because he's
always doing it like sometimesthey can hold their composure,
but you can tell when somebodyreally cannot hold it in anymore
and then it is funny.
But no, I wasn't.
I wasn't here for keenanthompson, but I think that might
be one of the main reasons whyI stopped watching saturday

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night live did you see the skitthat he did?

Jay Franze (15:53):
what was it um black jeopardy?
Yes what did you think of eddiemurphy in that skit?

oh, he is that the one where he had half of his
hair teased up and half of itwas slicked down.

Jay Franze (16:08):
Well, he was um playing.
What's his face there?
Tracy Lawrence.

Was it Tracy Lawrence?
Tracy, yes, man, I can'tbelieve it.
Tracy Morgan.

Jay Franze (16:18):
Tracy Morgan.
Thank you.

I was listening to Tracy.
Lawrence earlier today, goodcover, good cover Um.

Jay Franze (16:24):
I was, I was listening to the TL Roadhouse
his podcast.

Oh sure.

Jay Franze (16:31):
Yeah, no, I, I'm old and I don't have a memory.

There you go.
I'm old and you fire me when Idon't have a memory.
Yes, maybe you're fired.

Jay Franze (16:39):
You're younger than me, remember?
You've established that quite abit, I know.

I also have mom brain, though.
I have a lot to remember and Ihave to remember everything
about the saturday night liveshow to talk about tonight.
So it's a lot.
I got a lot packed in thereright now.
So when we were kids and weused to go, I grew up in a small
town and my grandpa was abowler and so my grandparents
signed us up for bowling and somy dad would come to our bowling
with us and they would say mygrandpa and my dad, they'd say,

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okay, you got to pack all yourcrap together, get all your crap
together.
And then they would say, oh, Iscrewed up my hair.
And then they would say, okay,now take your shot.
So I got to pack all that momstuff in.

Jay Franze (17:21):
You grew up in a small town.
Who sings it?

Sam.

Jay Franze (17:30):
Hunt Jason Ald.
Mom stuff in you grew up in asmall town.
Who sings it?
Sam hunt, jason aldean.

Okay, I should know that, but you should know
because you keep bringing it upthat's why I wanted to see if
you know jason aldean, if youremember your own stuff I know
I'm bad at it um, okay, so adamsandler, oh no, first thing I
wanted to bring up was all themusic guests.
I know we are going to kind ofchit chat about that a little
bit.
Did you notice that some ofthem were on like some big stage
and some of them were on theSaturday Night Live stage?

(17:54):
So it became clear to me theyhad, like this Saturday Night
Live 50th year celebration quoteunquote homecoming concert, and
they had the musical gueststhat night.
I was kind of surprised by that.
The first one was, uh, well,not the first one, but the first
one I'm I got in q to talkabout is, uh, adam sandler, and

(18:20):
I listened to his 50 years.

Jay Franze (18:21):
That was really good that's the one where he was
just talking about everythingthat happened.

Yeah, yeah, which was pretty funny.

Jay Franze (18:27):
Including the cue cards.

Yes, I think that's when the cue cards came
up.
And then I watched the skitafter and there were still cue
cards and I was like, oh,they're really doing them for
the whole show.

Jay Franze (18:38):
Yeah, but he was talking about the guy being
drunk and having the cardsupside down.

Yes, and I like the digs that they had at Lauren
throughout the whole show.

Jay Franze (18:52):
That's brutal.
They do that to that man allthe time.

Miley Cyrus.
What a great performance.
And I did not know who thisBrittany Howard was.
So if you guys go back andwatch it, she first of all has
the shortest dreads that stickstraight up.
I've never seen anybody teasetheir dreads.
But britney howard does okayand she is a guitar soloist, a

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lead singer and a mainsongwriter for american rock
bands Alabama shakes, thunderbitch and Bermuda triangle Nice.
So she's pretty accomplished,but um yeah, they.
They played well off of eachother.

Jay Franze (19:35):
She's a talented woman.
She, um, she just did a guitarsolo with somebody else I forget
who it was, but she did alittle collaboration with
somebody.
It was really good.

Hmm, yeah, so I was impressed by that share.
Girlfriend still looks amazingat 75, but I think they sped up
the pace of that song.
Did you notice that at all?

Jay Franze (20:00):
They probably sped up a lot of them here.

Yeah right.
There's a trend right now, likeon TikTok, of kids speeding up
songs and listening to them.

Jay Franze (20:05):
They probably sped up a lot of them here.
Yeah right, there's a trendright now on TikTok of kids
speeding up songs and listeningto them at that speed so they
can get through more songs.
It drives me insane.

Yeah, I can't listen to podcasts any faster
than 1.25 because otherwise Ican't really I'm listening to,
usually comprehend, I'm usuallylistening to be motivated, which
are inspired, which requires meto think about, like my
business and how I'm running it,or you know what I want to do
for my next episode or whateverit's.

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I'm thinking alongsidelistening to the podcast, so I
can't speed it up and I'm notspeeding up.
You and I.
I mean, we sound fantastic.

Jay Franze (20:43):
So when I hit listen to our episodes good right.
Slow it down 0.75 I listen tobooks on tape at double speed
sometimes, but I will not listento a podcast faster than 1x no,
it stresses me out, it reallystresses me out.
Well, what stresses me out iswhen I see a book and it says 13

(21:04):
hours and something minutes andI'm like I don't know, no
that's exciting for me.

I'm like sweet, I do not have to worry about a
new episode, I don't have toworry about a new book, nothing
For 13 hours.
How long can I stretch this out?
But you drive a lot.

Jay Franze (21:20):
I do drive a lot.

I would think you would want it even more.
Why are you speeding thesethings up, Jay?

Jay Franze (21:24):
I don't know Something about a book and
seeing 13 hours just freaks meout.

Tony Scott (21:28):
But podcasts.

Jay Franze (21:30):
I listen to them at 1x the whole time.

This makes me think of when people are like
the memes do you want to watch amovie?
And they're like I don't havetime for that.
And they're like you want tobinge this season of this,
whatever, and it's like seven oreight hours.
So okay, you're that person Gotit.

Jay Franze (21:49):
I do.
I probably listen to 13different episodes, but I don't
want to listen to the one bookfor 13 hours, right.

Maybe you just don't like the idea of the topic
lasting for so long.

Jay Franze (22:04):
Okay, did you see Backstreet Boys?
Those are people from your neckof the woods.

Yes, this was really weird, though, or it was
really cute, quite honestly.
So the band is up on stage, youknow, and they're all singing
and if you think about, like alot of the actors and actresses
I mean, of course they range inages, but a lot of them are and
actresses, I mean, of coursethey range in ages, but a lot of
them are my age or just alittle bit older, just a little
bit younger, and so it wasreally sweet to see the stars be

(22:33):
star struck, so they were likesinging along and they're like
holding their hearts as they'resinging along to the music and
they all know the words.
I, I just, I kind of, I don'tknow.
It just made them seem real tome.
I guess, you know, they becamehumans in my world and, yeah,
they just had an adoration or anadmiration for this group that

(22:55):
was on stage.
The one weird thing was and Idon't know who the guy was like,
you know, back in my day, whenthey were famous, when they were
popular, but there was one guyand he had a leopard cowboy hat
on and his nails were paintedlike a bright pink and I was
like, hmm, Let me ask you aquestion about the special yeah,

(23:17):
do you watch the weekendupdates at all?
No, that was my least favoritesegment.

Jay Franze (23:23):
Really See when Norm MacDonald, when he was on, he
was just absolutely amazing.

He was good.

Jay Franze (23:29):
I mean, he was an amazing comedian in general he
had the best timing.
But I've seen several people doit since then and I think the
guy that's doing it now is isdoing pretty good.
He's got some pretty goodcomedic timing and he cracks up
a lot.
He's got some pretty goodcomedic timing and he cracks up
a lot.

He's constantly cracking, but I don't know what
his name is.

Jay Franze (23:52):
I know who he is, I just don't know his name.

Okay, I'll have to check out a couple of
episodes, maybe I'll record him.
You know I can't stay up toolate.
This kind of beauty requiressleep.
So, yeah, paul McCartney was onthere and he did an Abbey Road
medley so that was really cool.
And I just had this thought whenI was, and I've always thought

(24:16):
this about the Beatles theirpointy little nose and their
little round mouths.
For some reason that looksEnglish to me, or British, Like
I don't know.
I can't put my finger on itnecessarily, but even now, as
he's aged and changed and grownhis hair out and whatever, I

(24:36):
still feel like when I look athim.
I'm like, oh yeah, you'reBritish.
No, no doubt about it.
Like I don't.
I can't put my finger on whatthat means, but that's what I
was thinking as I was lookingthem.
And then he had these twoguitarists with him and the one
guy I looked it up because I waslike who is this guy?
So Brian Ray.
He was so gaunt, like hischeeks were sucked in, so he

(25:02):
needed some eye makeup Becausehis eyes, his whole face, was
like basically one shade and hewas like playing off to the side
, almost kind of creepy.
Then they both, they all camein together and like started
singing with Paul McCartney, butthe makeup artist did him wrong
for that performance.

Jay Franze (25:21):
No, it's not the same.
He should have been there forthe piano skit Talk about the
fried chicken.
That would have been muchbetter.
The piano skit talking aboutthe fried chicken.

That would have been much better.
What skit was that?

Jay Franze (25:32):
I don't know colin, just joster.
Jouster j-o-s-t.
Colin.
He's the guy that's doing theweekend update now I wonder if
he was.

Was he in any of the skits?

Jay Franze (25:44):
oh, yeah, yeah, I'm, sure he's okay he's all over
the place, but he does WeekendUpdate and they've always got
him saying the most embarrassingthings, Like it's one of those
things where he sees it come upand he's like, oh okay.

That makes me think of Impractical Jokers.
I don't know if you watch that.
Oh yeah, colin Jost, yeah, whenthey you watch that.
Oh yeah, colin Jost, yeah, whenthey, when they tell them what
they have to say or what theyhave to do, or they read it.
You know, I love when they havethe different surveys and they
flip the page.
They're like, okay, let me askyou if you'd sign this survey.
And it's like he's asking awoman and it's women against

(26:20):
other women and they're like, ohgod, and it's amazing how much
they can sell people on it.

Jay Franze (26:27):
Yeah.

You know, I guess that's the mark of a good
comedian.

Jay Franze (26:32):
All right, george has given us his favorite.

Yes, I want to hear it.

Jay Franze (26:37):
He likes the Scared Straight skit.
Yes.

That's the one with Eddie Murphy and Will.

Jay Franze (26:43):
Ferrell and Tracy, not Tracy.
Lawrence, Tracy.

No, Morgan.

Jay Franze (26:48):
Morgan.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (26:51):
Two entirely different people yeah.
But yes, and Will Ferrell iswearing the shorts.
Yes, his shirt cut down to hisbelly button.

Yeah, it made me think of Reno 911.

Jay Franze (27:05):
Yes, have you ever watched that?
Yes, that was a funny show too.

They were trying to tell those kids to stay out
of trouble.
Will Ferrell's character mademe think of have you ever seen
Daddy's Home?

Jay Franze (27:18):
I'm not sure.

Okay, it's a Will Ferrell movie with Mark
Wahlberg and he's like WillFerrell's like this goody--shoes
dad and Mark Wahlberg's likethis hardcore hot.
You know every woman's dreamkind of guy or whatever.
Oh yeah, yeah, I see it yeah hetalks about being, you know,
hard on the streets and when hewas Gator, the pimp and all

(27:40):
these things, so that was a verygood one for me.
George Scared Straight, I likedthat episode or that skit.

Jay Franze (27:49):
Kenny thinks I'm drinking tonight.

Nipping and sipping after some hours
beverage tonight.

Jay Franze (27:55):
No, no, no.
But that's a good idea.
Crack open some bourbon.
Oh, George has got another onetoo.
He liked the close encounter.
Skit.
Okay, can we get into it?

we, we're gonna everybody put their turn signal
on here because that was thebest one, okay.
Okay, everybody put their leftturn signal on here, we go.
Okay, because this one wasdefinitely left.
So this was kate mckinnon,woody harrelson, pedro Pascal I
think that's how you say it.
And Meryl Streep Okay, theystart the episode out and she is
like spread wide open, right,and I thought what is the deal?

(28:34):
What is going on?
And I love her just as much asyou know.
Kristen Wiig, melissa McCarthyshe's super funny.
I wrote down some of her linesbecause they were so awesome.
Okay, she says my vagity andtragedy.
I mean, who mows the lawn inthe winter?
Am I right?

Jay Franze (28:57):
to give a little background on that.

She's talking for about you know a few minutes
about not grooming herself well,and she's talking about the
aliens abducted her and they'relike why do you think that they
took you?
And she was like in my vagity,in my tragedy, you know, I mean,
who mows the lawn in the winter?
And then she said because ofthe state of my down there hair.

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And then she was talking aboutwhen she got abducted, I don't
know when she was in her houseshe had a shirt on but not her
pants.
And she says, I mean, I'mDonald Duck in it, no shirt, no
pants.

Jay Franze (29:33):
Did you see when she was showing what the aliens did
to her?
When each like three?

Tony Scott (29:38):
different aliens came up to her.

Jay Franze (29:40):
Yes, and she's sitting there tapping on the one
guy.
She's crawling between the legsof the other one.

He wore me like a hat.
Yeah, yeah, that was reallyfunny, she said.
She said, uh, I'm donald duckin it.
And then she said you know mytoken hole and my smoking hole?
And then she says she's stilltalking about it.
And she says last time I had abrazilian his name name was
Diego and he got strep throat.
It was like every line she hadwas so good, oh my gosh.

(30:15):
And then Meryl Streep comes in.

Jay Franze (30:16):
And she almost cracked a couple times.

Uh-huh, uh-huh, I think when the regulars are on.
I don't know, it's not that.

Jay Franze (30:25):
It's Keenan.
I just don't like Keenan and hethinks you're the one that's
been drinking tonight peopleaccuse me of it all the time.

Kenny meryl streep said a good mother can
also be a bad girl.

Jay Franze (30:40):
You know, because she was talking about it and
then the other lady just kind ofsinks in her seat and kind of
hangs her head like she'sembarrassed.
My mother's talking like this.

Yes, oh sure, Kate is doing that.
I like the lady that wasinterrogating them too.
She's a little bit heavier set.
She's got the long brown hair.

Jay Franze (30:58):
She is great in a lot of talking about.

Tony Scott (31:02):
Let's not go there.

She used to be in a skit with, like, a friend
that was really promiscuous andso her friend would always want
to like go out and get drunk andlike do things, and she'd
always be like I don't think weshould do that.
You know, like she was alwaysthe good girl and like telling
her friend, no, it's not a goodidea.
They always seemed to put herin a good spot on the sketches.

Jay Franze (31:25):
Well, the two guys in this close encounter skit.
They're just like oh, it wasgreat, we were coddled up and
swooped into the sky with twobeautiful women.
The other two are like we got,you know, trashed and abused Yep
.
They dropped us back to earthfrom you know 250 feet.

(31:46):
They drop us back to earth from250 feet, Came through
somebody's ceiling and we landedon Fred or whatever the guy's
name was.
And then they're laughing.
They said that was a crazyfuneral, it's like okay, I
didn't catch that.

That's awesome.
Yeah, that one was probably myabsolute favorite.
It was the close encounters.
So good call, george, we musthave the same kind of humor.

Jay Franze (32:11):
Take us into the news We'll get back into the
right lane.
Everybody slow down.

Okay, well, I was going to let you guys know
about a couple of new songs thathave come out.
Morgan Wallen has I'm theProblem, chris.

Tony Scott (32:26):
Jansen has Wait, wait, Jansen has a problem.

I feel like he stole it from Taylor right like
hi, it's me, I know you weresaying you were the problem,
sorry so no, jay, I would neveradmit that.
Okay, chris Jansen.
A new song called stay rowdy.
Nate Smith and the Hardy teamteam up for a hilarious and
hard-hitting new anthem.

(32:50):
Nobody Likes your Girlfriend.

Jay Franze (32:53):
Nobody likes my wife .
Everybody likes the wife.

nobody likes me Because you're the right, You're
in the right lane.
That's why.

Jay Franze (33:01):
Yeah, I gotta move to the left.
Is that what you're telling me?

Yes, yes.
Do you ever notice that whensongs get released, it feels
like everybody knows the songthat was going to be released?
Like I feel like in everybody'scamps they would be quiet,
right, like, ooh, don't sayanything.
Well, maybe you know, maybe youcan fill us in.
I feel like there is some kindof secrecy on what you're

(33:24):
getting to release, is there not?

Jay Franze (33:26):
Used to be in the 50s, that was a big thing.
When you drive to the radiostation with wax in your hand
and hand it to the DJ beforeanybody, the DJs wanted to be
that first person to break music.
These days, no, you get digitalmusic, everybody gets it at one
time and you're out beggingpeople to play it for you.

There was a song that came out about selling the
truck for or for the best offer,and then there was another one
that was like something aboutrolling his truck off the cliff
because he couldn't, he didn'twant to be in the truck anymore.
They basically had the samestoryline.
Okay, now this one today, thisweek, there is nobody likes your

(34:05):
girlfriend that is coming outand then dirks bentley is
releasing a rugged,heartbreaking anthem called she
hates me, and it just kind offeels like this hate towards the
girls, I don't know.
It feels similar again.
So that's why when I said whenthe songs come out like, isn't
there any gauge on variety?

Jay Franze (34:26):
I think what's going on too is in Nashville.
A lot of people talk about what, what songs are big right now
and what artists are big, andthen they try to write songs for
that artist in that vein.
So they keep chasing the tailof something where, in reality,
when an artist cuts a song andit's a big song they want to
move on to the next thing, andall the writers in town are

(34:48):
trying to, you know, grab apiece of that current thing.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (34:51):
But I remember a story the producer, matt McClure
, I used to work for.
Yeah, and I mean great producer, great engineer, and we were
working on a Lee Bryce record.
Lee Bryce cut a song called IDrive your Truck, and I mean a
great, great song.
I love that song oh yeah, greatsong, sad as can be.

I mean real tearjerker.

Jay Franze (35:14):
But I remember being in the studio holding the
charts and handed the charts out, which is the sheet music
essentially for Nashville.
They're number charts, so Ihanded it out to each musician
and they see the title on thetop of the chart that says I
drive your truck and one guygoes oh, another truck song.

(35:38):
And the session lead, which wasJeff King, amazing guitar
player in Nashville, he lookedat them and said you know what?

It is another truck song but trust me, this
one's different.

Jay Franze (35:52):
And then when they played it, they were all like,
oh my God, this is awesome.

Yeah, it has the feeling of a drink of beer.

Jay Franze (36:01):
But Luke Bryan.

There you go.
I wish you were here.
You know what?

Jay Franze (36:06):
I like Luke Bryan.
I know he gets a bad rapsometimes, but I like him.

I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
I've listened to a lot of hismusic, my daughter and I his big
hit.

Jay Franze (36:15):
Play it Again.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (36:17):
Yeah, we have that in our playlist.
So when we do road trips,that's a song of ours.

I know that this is super silly, but I always
look at my husband.

Jay Franze (36:31):
I'm like I wish this is how we met my wife is always
trying to come up with betterstories of how we met, how we
get engaged, because, trust me,it's all brutal, it's just a
brutal.
I don't know how we ended uptogether, it's more like the
story.

It was a rough, rough start.
It wasn't like that song.
No, no, no.
Well, those are new songs, newalbums that are out, and I
pulled this from like a range ofartists or a range of genres.
So there's a guy, sam fender,if you guys, if kenny ge, george

(37:07):
, anybody else listening, if youguys know these people say
something.
But Sam Fender and he releasedpeople watching and I went and
listened to it.
It was pretty good.
I I would listen to it again.
Tucker Wetmore announced that heis debuting a new album, what
not to, on the stage of theRyman Auditorium at the CRS is
when he did that, russellDickerson.

(37:28):
He has a new album calledHappened to Me.
I think it's funny when theyuse these little like that.
One previous was what Not Toand this one is Happened to Me.
And there was another onerecently that came out and it
was same thing where, like I do,or something.
Anyways, when it came out andit was same thing where, like I
do, or something anyways, whenit came out and you think like

(37:49):
okay, what could that possiblymean?
And I had my own version andthen I heard the song and I was
like huh, okay, not, not where Ithought we were going with that
.
So I'd be interested to hearthese two.
I should have looked those twoup, but I looked up the one.
I didn't know.
Jessica Simpson after 15 years.

Jay Franze (38:10):
Dude, I was talking about her the other day.
My wife and I were talkingabout her, that girl used to be
spot on beautiful.

Yeah, she makes me think of Jenny McCarthy,
equal in beauty.

Jay Franze (38:21):
Yeah, very, very similar.
She's not the same anymore.
Have you seen her recently?

No.

Jay Franze (38:29):
I mean still beautiful, but doesn't look
anything like she used to.

Mm-hmm.
Well, her new album is calledUse my Heart Against Me.

Jay Franze (38:40):
And her sister speaking of Saturday Night Live.
I think Saturday Night Live isthe show that ruined her
sister's career.

Oh really.

Jay Franze (38:49):
Yeah, you ever pay any attention to her sister,
ashley Simpson.

I guess not.

Jay Franze (38:54):
She had a rock album out where Jessica was releasing
pop records.
She released a rock album andit was good.
It wasn't great, but it wasreally good and it was produced
very, very well.
The people who did her recorddid an amazing job.
But she went on Saturday NightLive and she played two songs,
so she played one at thebeginning, went just fine.

I think I watched it.

Jay Franze (39:17):
It was great, went fine, everything was good.
You know she lip synced, but itwas very good.
But then they played the secondsong and the band started
playing the music to the secondsong, but the lip sync portion
was playing the lip sync fromthe first song and then she kind
of did this very odd-lookinghoedown-style dance just to kind

(39:39):
of laugh it off.
And it just didn't look good.
The whole thing was sad, andshe kind of worked her way off
stage and you didn't really hearmuch of anything from her after
that.

That's too bad.
I don't know about that, but Ifeel like I watched that one
actually Okay.
So Tate McRae also came outwith a new album, so close to
what I went listen to, that one,that one's good and well to my
standards, and sunny wararmageddon in a summer dress.

(40:15):
So all those were pretty good.
I liked them.
I would go listen to them again.
I would not be shocked if theyturn up on my daughter's
playlist.
They're pretty good.

Jay Franze (40:31):
Well, let's go ahead and move on, since we're
blowing through time tonight.

Oh wow, we really are.

Jay Franze (40:39):
I had a couple more things I wanted to talk about,
but I do want to just do alittle bit of our question of
the night.
Absolutely so question of thenight.
I don't know if we evenmentioned it today, but the
question of the night is thebest guitar players.
So just who would you think ofas being the best guitar players
?
I know that I grew up listeningto Journey, so I used to think

(41:01):
Neil Sean and I still think he'sone of the best guitar players
in the world.
He is definitely one of themost underrated guitar players.
People hear Journey songs andthey think just sing-songy,
ballad type stuff, but he is anamazing, amazing guitar player
and if you go into even likefollow him on Instagram, you can
see him practicing at his houseand stuff.
He just does some amazing stuff.

(41:22):
So that's one person, I wouldsay.
But another one is NunoBetancourt from the band Extreme
.
Just absolutely amazing.

Now what would, in your opinion, what would
qualify them Right?
Like, we can look up theselists and we can see who's on
them, but you're picking peoplethat aren't on that list, and so
what do you hear?
Or is it the speed at whichthey can play?
Is it the different notes?

Jay Franze (41:50):
Things that I look for in a guitar player.
I look for a guitar player whoknows what to play and when to
play it.
So it's not necessarily aboutfitting as many notes into
something as you can, butplaying the right notes for the
right situation.
I am super impressed whensomebody can play extremely fast

(42:10):
and fit all of the notes in andplay it with technique behind
it, so I do think that's areally good thing.
But I also think it's good whensomebody can sit back and play
just the right notes at theright time.
So it's knowing what to playand when to play, in my opinion
notes at the right time.

So it's knowing what to play and when to play it
.
In my opinion, is that fair tosay also knowing when to quote,
unquote, shine, and also knowingwhen to pull back yeah,
absolutely yeah yeah I mentionedjourney when watching him play.

Jay Franze (42:43):
He can play as fast as you want to play.
You can play as many notes asyou want him to play.
You know he can do all of thatstuff.
But when you listen to some ofthose songs like Open Arms or
Faithfully and the big ballads,he's not playing like a rocket,
he's just playing verytastefully.
So it's just knowing what to doand when.
I mean you even got Eddie VanHalen, which is one of the

(43:06):
arguably the best guitar playerin the world, but at least one
of the best, and that man canplay fast, can play slow, he can
play different techniques.
You know pretty much, if notinvented, at least brought to
the forefront the tapping on aguitar.
So I think all of those thingsadd to stuff.
You know how a person plays.

(43:27):
The magic is in their fingers,it's not in their equipment
Taking.
And there's the left for theKnights.

That's what she said.

Jay Franze (43:42):
If ever there's going to be a sound bite, that's
going to be the one, right?
Yes, so the magic right.
Yes so the magic is in theirfingers, but yes.

Not their instrument.

Jay Franze (43:54):
Not their tool, anyway.
So, yes, I think that's all.
Part of that is knowing what toplay, when to play it and how
they choose to play it, thestyle they choose to do.
Play when to play it and howthey choose to play it.
The style they choose to do.
I mean, even like Eddie VanHalen was very experimental with
the style of play and evendoing stupid things like pulling

(44:16):
in a hand drill and playing iton the guitar.
I'm going to stop now.
Who do you like when it comesto guitar players?
Who do you think are some ofthe best?

Well, you know that I'm so good at pulling out
specific names and specificbands right.

Jay Franze (44:39):
But I'm, yeah, I'm going to stop now.
Sorry, george.
When it gets this late in thenight, this is what happens.

Yeah, all bets are off.
I was sharing with you earliertoday.
I was in the gas station.
I heard the song Shine byCollective Soul and I was like
God, this is such a good songand now and I don't know how
long Apple's been doing this butif you ask Siri to play a song
for you, it'll keep pullingsongs that are related to that
first song that you had Thensitting here having this

(45:07):
conversation with you about youknow guitars and everything.
I think it's a lot of bandsfrom the nineties and we had
that conversation too where youwere saying you know, a lot of
those bands were really knownfor having great guitarists, and
that's what I think of it's.
It's almost just that time inmy life that I think of.

(45:28):
It's not really necessarily meremembering.
I think now that I'm gettingolder, I look at music and I'm
like what do I love so muchabout this?
And for those songs it is theguitar.
So today was a beautiful dayhere in Florida.
I had the windows down and Ihad that music up real loud.

Jay Franze (45:44):
I didn't have to use my.

Tony Scott (45:46):
AK.

Jay Franze (45:50):
I don't remember what song that is, but that's
the second time I've done thattonight.

Today was a good day I don't know.

Jay Franze (45:56):
Jeff says nudo betancourt oh, two votes there's
a follow-up.
Trevor, says eddie, so thereyou go.
Pam, says eddie oh yeah, so Igot a few people agreeing with
me.
Randy says alan holdsworth.
I don't know who that is well,again it's.

It's a group from saturday night live.
They had a skit where postmalone actually was the front
singer uh-huh I want the SmellsLike Teen Spirit song and it was
the OG band members, and thenPost Malone and they have Kurt

(46:38):
Cobain on here as one of thebest guitarists and that was
such great music and such agreat no.

Jay Franze (46:47):
No.

Oh, I liked me some Nirvana.

Jay Franze (46:51):
Nirvana's not bad, but no way in hell is he one of
the best guitar players ever?
Oh God, no Big, no Big, no Hard.
No, I need a buzzer.
Next week there's going to be abuzzer on here.

I wouldn't say him either, but maybe his
bandmates, maybe that's whatthey meant.
I mean, they have him, but Iwould have thought it was a
bandmate too.
And Post sounded good, but hewas a little strained.
He cracked quite a bit yeahyeah, yeah.

Jay Franze (47:20):
But I was thinking to myself when he was cracking.
I was thinking, well, if everthere's a song to crack on,
because that's not a song that'smeant to be pretty.

Right Agreed.
I kind of had the same, thesame feeling.

Jay Franze (47:35):
Alan Holdsworth is a British jazz and rock guitar
player and violinist andcomposer.
So, there you go.

The group that we went to go see perform live.
One of them plays a viola,electra, and that made me think
violin, and is there acorrelation between violin
playing and guitar playing?

Jay Franze (48:01):
Yeah, there is.
I mean they're obviously bothstringed instruments one's four
versus six strings.
So I mean there's differencesbetween theed instruments.
One's four versus six strings.
So I mean there's differencesbetween the two of them, but
they're very similar.
I would say.
In my opinion, violin wouldseem harder to me than guitar,
but there's some amazingviolinists out there right now
playing rock music.

(48:22):
You can go find people onInstagram or TikTok and stuff.
They're just killing it.
There's this one girl I follow.
I don't remember her name, I'dbring it up, but she's just
absolutely amazing.

I'm sure if you follow anybody that does that,
I'm sure you're following her Ido not, but I would be
interested in it and I feel likethis next round of music that's
coming out.
There's some of the classicfeels but there's a lot of folk
feel to a lot of the musiccoming out now which also is
more stripped away but alsowould allow for a violin.

(48:54):
George says Eric Clapton yes,he's on the list of course he's.

Jay Franze (49:03):
He's the man mm-hmm.

I always loved when they would have him on MTV,
on the Unplugged.

Jay Franze (49:09):
Yeah, you know what I miss.
What was that Crossroads wherethey had two bands come together
and play each other's songs.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (49:19):
And I don't know if you ever saw Pat Benatar and
Martina McBride episode wherethey got on and sang each other.
Those are two powerhousesingers.
I mean absolutely amazingsingers.
And both when they sang theother person's song were very
weak, like neither one of themwere able to nail the other
person's songs.

I really don't like when a performer can't
project Like it's almost likethey have all this intensity but
it doesn't come out.
People who can do powerhouseballad singing that's what I
really like, because there'sthat build up.
Then there's the release and Ilike that.

Jay Franze (50:03):
We're going to have to rename the show to After
Hours.

And I find it so frustrating when somebody goes
to sing a song and they can't dothat.
So that's what that sounds liketo me is that they both flopped
, or flip-flopped whatever, andwent to go perform the other
person's song but then didn't,like you know, punch it Didn't
Right.

Jay Franze (50:23):
They just fell short .
Dennis says Eddie, ann saysKenny Wade Shepard, kenny Wayne
Shepard.
Ooh George, that's a good one,mark Knopfler.

Who is he with?

Jay Franze (50:40):
Mark Knopfler.
Mark Knopfler, he's from theband Dire Straits, but he's also
known as a solo artist, martinOffler.

Oh, okay, he was produced by Chuck Ainley.

Jay Franze (50:53):
Produced and engineered by Chuck Ainley in.
Nashville at Soundstage.
But in the back of that ChuckAinley had his own room with an
SSL console in it and I used toteach at the college and the
windows of the classroom lookeddown on his studio so you can
see all the artists and thepeople walking in and out of his

(51:13):
building all day long.
But that album Mark Knopflerand stuff was very, very cool
and if I remember correctly Ibelieve that's where Presley
Tennant talked about recordingher record was in that room.

Tony Scott (51:29):
Oh.

Jay Franze (51:30):
Oh, we mentioned Jeff King earlier.
Oh, dear God, is he one of thebest guitar players I've ever
seen.
People would think he'sabsolutely amazing and nobody
has any idea who he is Becausehe's played on every country
record under the sun.
But he's a studio musician.
He does go on the road.
He's out on the road right nowwith Brooks and Dunn.
So if you go see Brooks andDunn he's the guitar player.

(51:51):
But he's known he's primarily astudio player.
He only goes on the road withBrooks and Dunn in Reba.
So not too shabby of a gigeither.
One of those.
Yeah, but he's one of the bestguitar players I've ever worked
with.

Because of what?
Why would you say that?
Obviously talent.

Jay Franze (52:12):
The man can play anything.
I mean one thing about himbecause he's a studio musician
and what I like about it is he'sknown for working in Nashville
playing country records and hegoes in and he can play the
country records like anybodyelse does.
But if you ask him to dosomething different, there's no
hesitation and he can just do it.
So he doesn't even have tothink about it.

(52:34):
If you say I want this to have amore rock and feel, or I want
it to have a harder edge to it,and he's just there.
He just reaches over, presses afew buttons, might pick up a
different guitar and next thingyou know he's off to the races
and it sounds just like what youhad envisioned in your head.

(52:54):
So yeah, he's very good atinterpreting what people want.
But what I like most about himis not his guitar player.
I like his sense of humor.
You know I'm a wise ass.
If you haven't noticed that, Iknow, be a wise ass from time to
time you gotta come out, comeout of your shell around me,
come out of the shell, but inthe studio when, especially when
things are rough, when thingsare going bad, like a piece of
equipment's broken orsomething's going on, Jeff is

(53:17):
there to keep everybodyentertained while we fix the
piece of equipment or do what'snecessary.
He's just keeping everybodylight.
So once the tape or tape oncethe digital tape is rolling
digital tape is a thing too,once Pro Tools is rolling again

(53:38):
we're able to go in there andjust pick up where we left off,
because everybody's still in agood mood.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (53:45):
He's one of those too, that you know.
I worked with three producersin Nashville, primarily so I
spent most of my time workingfor Jim Cristaldi, Bob Bullock
and Matt McClure, and every oneof them used Jeff as their
guitar player at least one timeor another.
So he's just the guy to use.
Absolutely amazing.

I remember like having my mind blown, learning
about.
There's like a book ofmusicians, right, like, let's
say that you're gonna performsomewhere and all of a sudden
your drummer comes down with theflu and absolutely cannot
perform.
Right, instead of cancelingyour gig, there's like white and
yellow pages or I guess, yellowpages of all these musicians

(54:28):
that you guys can call up on awhim and these people can just
like I don't understand how youdon't know a song, but you can
go in and then you play the song.
So I I saw it play out one timeat this venue by us called blue
jay listening lounge, and thislady was performing and, sure
enough, she doesn't have like ahouse band.

(54:49):
She doesn't travel, I don'tthink, with a normal house band
or something was wrong with hersaxophonist.
Is that a thing?

Jay Franze (54:55):
Anyways, and her sax player.

And uh, so they just called somebody from the
Jacksonville, whatever, hire amusician and he, he showed up
and he was able to just play themusic.
And when I learned that this islike a common thing, I thought,
well, a, that's genius, but balso like the talent.

(55:19):
These people have to be able tojust show up and then just play
right.
So it sounds like he's likethat, but obviously a couple
levels higher.

Jay Franze (55:28):
But yeah, no, he's definitely like that.
I mean, nashville's got a union, so the Musicians Union, and
you go there and you can hiremusicians all day long.
There's just a long, long list,but there's really just a core
group of people who play on allthe big records.

Tony Scott (55:45):
And.

Jay Franze (55:45):
Jeff is one of those core people who play on all the
big records.
If you go to allmusiccom andyou can type in Jeff King and
you can probably find hundreds,and probably thousands at this
point, of records that he'splayed on.
He's very, very impressive.
But I had Alex on the show thisweek.
Alex is a hard rock heavy metalsinger and she's going to be

(56:06):
opening up for Five Finger DeathPunch and all these other
massive metal bands for afestival this summer and she was
talking about her band and howthey're missing a bass player
right now.
So I just told her.
I said hey, if you need a bassplayer, let me know, because she
was saying I hope I could findsomebody by the time of the show

(56:27):
.

Tony Scott (56:28):
And.

Jay Franze (56:28):
I'm like well, hell, I could get you five or six of
them in the next 10 minutes ifyou want.
Yeah, Because musicians arealways looking for somebody to
play for.
They're always looking for agig.

Yeah, it's not bad, not bad at all.
Yeah, I just remember thinkingthat was the coolest thing, that
there's that many talentedpeople and pull out the Rolodex
and call them up.
Pretty cool.

Jay Franze (56:55):
I don't know if you know much about Tom Green, the
comedian Tom Green A little bit.
A little bit, a little bit.
He's got a new documentary outand it's called this is the Tom
Green Documentary Very clevername.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (57:09):
Here we are on the Jay Frenzy.

Show.

Jay Franze (57:10):
I wonder what it's about, so I can't really argue
too much about the name on the JFranzen show, so I can't really
argue too much about the name.
However, what I foundinteresting about the
documentary is the fact that hewrote it and produced it himself
.
So he produced his owndocumentary and in the opening
scenes of him producing hisdocumentary he's talking to his

(57:32):
parents.
His mother said isn't it weirdthat you're producing your own
documentary?
Anyways, I thought it waspretty cool.
But there's a bunch of coolthings within the documentary
itself.
It talks about his history andhow he came up, where he's
walking through the streets ofCanada and pulling pranks on his
parents a lot, and he had hisshow called the tom green show

(57:56):
yeah where he did just thatslapstick style of of comedy.
Sadly he got cancer and this islike the middle of his career,
at this point, where he was justbreaking into the business.
He got his show because he had,you know, cable access style
shows.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (58:16):
But he finally gets signed by MTV and gets into a
deal and he gets his own showand it's kind of like a talk
show, A real goofy, goofy talkshow.
But he ends up gettingtesticular cancer and he ends up
having to end the show.
A lot of people think that hisshow got canceled, but he ends
up having to end the show.
A lot of people think that hisshow got canceled, but he ends
up having to end it because ofall that stuff.

(58:38):
But when he ended that showthere was two things that came
of it.
One was that's where Jackasscame from.

I was going to say it had a Jackass feel to it.

Jay Franze (58:49):
Yeah, because Jackass was the replacement of
that show.
So without Tom Green in thatshow there would have been no
Jackass.

Interesting.

Jay Franze (59:01):
So all of those movies, all of that stuff that
we know now wouldn't haveexisted.
And then the other thing,because of our industry here
without Tom Green there wouldhave been no Joee rogan say more
yeah, let's just let thatsettle for a second without tom

(59:21):
green, there would have been nojoe rogan.
Now, obviously, joe rogan existsand he's got a career in
television and all that stuff,but the podcast joe rogan that
we know wouldn't have existed,because what happened was they
were both stand-up comedians TomGreen and Joe Rogan and still
are.

Joe Rogan was.

Jay Franze (59:43):
Yeah, he still is.
He's one of the most famouscomedians in the world.
Where have you been what?
You, my friend, have a lot ofhomework to do, a lot.
George, is it safe to fire hernow?
Just saying, if I had thebutton I'd be hitting it right
now.

Tiffany Mason (01:00:03):
I did not know that he started as a comedian.
Oh dear.

Jay Franze (01:00:05):
God.
Yes, he's one of the mostwell-to-do, popular comedians
right now.
He owns his own comedy club inAustin and it's like the world's
most famous comedy club thereis right now called the
Mothership.

What?
Oh my gosh, I'm in love withthis, Okay.

Mercy, me, so yes.

That's why it's good to have elders in your life
, so you can learn from them.

I love you so much.

Make you feel like a spring chicken, don't I?

George says he didn't know all this about tom
green.
But yeah, so the thing with tomgreen, he had that that whole.
Yes, fire tiffany for 10seconds just for 10 seconds I
love that, george, that'sawesome.
That's what we need is you'refired for 10 seconds, you get a
break in service, so you nolonger get pension.
Your pension has to start over.
Oh, I love that anyways.

(01:01:00):
So tom green had this show thathe was doing in his house or
his parents house.
I mean just a ridiculous talkshow, cable access show
somewhere, just ridiculous likestuff, had a radio show and all
this stuff.
But joe rogan was a guest onhis show.

(01:01:21):
So joe rogan went to his houseand while tom green is kind of
interviewing joe rogan, joerogan's looking around at the
camera equipment and the camerasand everything going.
You pretty much got like a TVshow in your house.
And he's like, yeah, and he Imean Tom Green's as goofy as any

(01:01:45):
one man could be, but he's like, yeah, yeah, we got TV show, we
go live, we stream to theinternet whenever we want.
And he's talking like I mean,cause he's like the first person
who streamed to the internetand I mean he didn't just stream
to the internet, he streamedout of the gate with a
multi-camera shoot and all thestuff he's doing Did a really
good job and Joe Roganson,they're going.

You can broadcast at any time and he's like For
three to four hours if youwanted to, that's what he's
saying.

He's like we can talk as long as we want, there's
no corporate pressure, none ofthis stuff.
That all stemmed from the TomGreen show, so nothing obviously
said about it at that point.
But Joe Rogan left, bought allthe equipment, started his own
show and if you look at theoriginal Joe Rogan shows, if he

(01:02:37):
can find them there him and hisbuddies sitting on a couch in an
extremely dark room justtalking garbage, no rhyme or
reason, just talking uh-huh.
So I think that's prettyimpressive that without Tom
Green there'd be no Joe Rogannot Not as we know him anyway.

Yeah, you never know where someone's going to
get that bright idea.

But I'm not sure if you're familiar that he also
married Drew Barrymore and thendivorced her.

No oh personally.

you have got to do some homework.
Yeah, he married Drew Barrymore.
They kind of got together on afilm and just fell for each
other.
I mean, she's as goofy as he isand they get married.
And I think they got divorcedout of just pressure that they
had in each of their lives, notbecause of each other.

(01:03:31):
They're still friends today.
I don't think they talk often.
Matter of fact, I think theyhad a long period of silence and
he went on her show, her talkshow, and they just talked for,
you know, for the first time inyears, and it was very, very
nice.

Awkward.

The last thing I'll say about Tom Green, or the last
thing that I need to mentionabout Tom Green, is that he was
in one of my favorite movies,and that was Road Trip.

Oh.

If you remember the movie Road Trip, he was the
college student who got to feedthe snake the mice, so but that
movie was a big break for him tobe in that movie and got him a
lot of opportunities from.
There including his own movie,which he wrote and produced and

(01:04:24):
did everything to do with hismovie that nobody wanted any
part of, and then nobody wantedhim to produce it.
But he went in and his managersaid look, if you want to do it,
you got to go convince peoplethat you can do it.
So he went in and convincedthem all that he could produce
this movie.
And he did, and the movieFreddy Got Fingered.

Yeah, there you go.
I've never seen it.

That's my Tom Green rant for the moment.
I just thought it was veryinteresting because he spawned
the career of Joe.

Rogan as a podcaster.

And then also Jackass.

Yeah, a very influential individual in our
entertainment history.

There you go.
All right, my friend, what doyou got going on?
This week, anything exciting.

Well, I'm still trying to find somebody to go
with me to go check out yourfriend's band, circe.
That is going to be in Daytonatomorrow night and I am chomping
at the bit to go you know youcan go by yourself, right.
I know I'm not, I don't adult,well alone.

Go there, introduce yourself to them and they will
sit there with you all nightlong, in between sets and stuff.

Yeah, I don't know, maybe, maybe I'll try a
solo.
I don't know, it would reallybe a huge step out of my comfort
zone.

I really don't like being alone.
You really can't afford to missthis band.
Okay, just throwing it outthere.

So hopefully that's where I'll be, hopefully
I'll be.
I can just put my big girlpanties on and just go alone and
just enjoy it and it's going tobe amazing.
So sad, amazing.
So that's what I really want todo on saturday.
I have no child, no husband.
I want to go to the beachbecause we are getting ready for

(01:06:24):
beach season here in floridaand I'm super excited about it.
So we used to live in minnesota,lived in upstate new york for a
amount of time.
Born and raised in Iowa, I knowabout these long winters.
I have sustained many, manylong winters.
Now Florida, nobody feels badfor me, but this winter, the

(01:06:45):
winter lasts too long in Florida.
So by February we are all likecan we go to the beach yet, can
we get back to the pools?
All like, can we go to thebeach yet, can we get back to
the pools?
And so I'm very excited becausethis week we're supposed to be
in the upper 70s every singleday, which means I can go to the
beach.
But you know you're not goingto feel bad for me again.
I don't feel bad for you, no no,yeah, it will be a little bit

(01:07:09):
cooler though, because always alittle bit cooler at the beach
because of the breeze off of thewater, but I'm looking forward
to that very, very much.
Do you guys have a season thatyou're looking forward to yet,
like, when does winter break foryou in Kentucky?

Well, I mean, it's pretty much over now.
This is February, for whateverreason, is kind of like the
start of a spring here it's when.

I usually get my allergies and stuff.

We were in the 60s for the past couple of days, so
it wasn't bad.
I think we'll get probably onemore cold snap and then be into
the spring, but my favoriteseason is fall.
You mentioned the beach.
I don't mind going to a beach, Idon't mind going to the
boardwalk where the activitiesare, but I am so against and I'm

(01:07:57):
just getting the heebie-jeebiesthinking about it.
Going to the beach, going intothe water, coming out and
getting sand all over me, I feellike human shake and bake, like
I'm just laying there gettingbread crumbed up with all the
sand and bacon in the sun.

Nothing nothing about that sounds pleasant to me
I love everything about thebeach, except for it'll be like
a million degrees sand and thewater, the people.
No, uh-uh, no, I love all that.
Nope, I don't like that.
You load up your car and you'reall sweaty, right.
You get to the beach, youunload all your crap, you lug it

(01:08:37):
out to wherever you're gonnaset up camp for the next couple
hours, and then you go, get inthe water and you play and you
have all kinds of fun, and thenwhen you go back to your car,
you're sweating again yeah like.
That is the part I don't likesee, no see.

You just described what it's like to go to the
beach with my family.
I don't want any part of thatwhen I go to the beach, I go
with myself or a friend and wego to the beach where we're both
adults.
We walk down a boardwalk, welook out over the water while
sitting at a restaurantsomewhere.
That, to me, is a trip to thebeach.
That's fun.
That's fun.

(01:09:15):
That's relaxing.
That's a great time.
What you're describing is atrip to the water with my family
.
That is not fun.
They love it.

Oh, I love it.
I can't get enough of it andhonestly, I, I, okay.
Oh, speaking of Saturday nightlife, they used to have this
segment called deep thoughts byJack Handy.
I have never forgotten thatthey were the stupidest deep
thoughts, and so I actually havethis segment called Deep
Thoughts by Jack Handy.
I have never forgotten thatthey were the stupidest deep
thoughts, and so I actually havea segment on my blog called
Deep Thoughts by Tiffany Mason,and one of them was it scares me

(01:09:45):
.
Yeah, it should.
I don't have very many entries.
I have a lot of ideas I have toformulate them still but one of
them was why can't I go to thebeach for just like two hours?
And I think it's because whenyou grow up in the midwest and
you have such a short amount ofsummer, you have to go and like
soak it all up in like one dayright, whereas I live in Florida

(01:10:07):
, every day is summer, exceptfor like three months out of the
year so I still have notacclimated, after eight years of
being down here, the fact thatI could go for an hour and leave
and then tomorrow I could comefor an hour and leave, like I
can come and go as much as Iwant.

(01:10:33):
I was gonna say in the water,but that sounds gross.

Wow, you are on the left tonight, my friend.
I love it.

Yes yes, it's not me tonight?

No, no, it's not me, george.

Normally I have a better filter, but I think my
filter might be downstairs.
I don't think I grabbed it.
I might have forgotten it.

So yes, George might take his comment back now he
said this is a classic showtonight.
I don't know if he's gonnathink so anymore.

Too many oh yeah, yeah, I'm dropping the ball,
but just don't drop them in thewater they get get blue.
They won't get blue from that,they just get small.

Alright, what else you got?

going on.
This week I have Hannah's cheerbanquet and on Thursday which
will be, I should say it, nextweek, but on Thursday will be my
next Memories with the Beatsepisode, we went and watched
some live music and it is ourrecap of the visit to see Robbie
and Felix there you go yeah,what are you doing this week,

(01:11:41):
friend?

I was gonna ask you how the show was, but I'm not
going to.
I'm gonna wait for your episodeto drop yeah yeah that's pretty
cool this week I had anopportunity to talk with Alex
Alex.
To me, you know, again, gettingto talk to somebody who's a
metal singer and stuff is alwaysa treat and I spend a lot of
time in the country world thatwhen I do get a chance to talk

(01:12:04):
to somebody in the rock or metalworld, it's always fun for me,
but she was really good.
I mean she's super, supertalented, great vocalists.
I mean I can't wait to see her.
That festival I don't rememberthe name of the festival, I'll
look it up real quick but thefestival is coming to ohio and
so that's the closest spot thatI know of that that she'll be at

(01:12:27):
.
But for me, five finger deathpunch is one of my favorite
bands, so to go see her andshe's she's good friends with
the guys from five finger deathpunch falling in reverses,
headlining one night, slip knotsheadlining another night in
five finger death punchesheadlining the finale, it's
going to be awesome, it's agreat show and, like I said,

(01:12:49):
look at all these bands that areon here, I mean in this, are on
here, I mean in this moment'son here.
It's just going to be a super,super good show.
I prevail.
I don't know, I don't see it,but it wouldn't surprise me if
Hailstorm is on here, marilynManson's on here.

Still performing.

What's odd to me is that Marilyn Manson's playing on
the night, slipknot's playing,not on the night.
Five Finger Death Punch isplaying and Marilyn Manson
opened up all season long forFive Finger Death Punch last
year.

Oh yeah, it's kind of odd that they're on two
different nights.
Well, maybe you know, like innetworking you're trying to use
other people's sphere ofinfluence or whatever right or
fan base, and so he's alreadyused their fan base, so now he's
going to use Slipknot fan base,maybe.

Great group of bands playing.
I mean I cannot wait to see it.
This show is July 18th inMansfield Ohio.
George says he's a big fan ofAlex as well, and it'll be
released on Monday.

Don't you hate when you have a really good um
interview and you're like I justwant to like release it now.
Yeah, like you're so excitedabout it.

You're just like, ah , and then I'm like, oh, do I
have to release this at all?
So it goes both ways.
What kills me is like there'sones that I think were okay.

Tony Scott (01:14:14):
Yeah.

Those are the ones people like and the ones that I
think were great.
People are like yeah, it wasall right.
You just never know.
Never know, all right folks.
Well, we have done it.
We have made it to the top ofthe hour, the second one, the
second hour of this hour-longshow, which does mean we have

(01:14:35):
reached the end of the show, orat least the start of the third
hour, if you have enjoyed theshow please tell a friend, miss
Tiffany, if you did not.

Tell two, tell two.

You can reach out to both of us over at jayfranze.
com.
We will be happy to keep theconversation going and talk to
you there or any of our socials.
Ms Tiffany, I cannot thank youenough for being here.
It is a blast, as always.
George Kenny and everybody elsethat joined.
Thank you and have a good night.

Good night.

Tony Scott (01:15:07):
Thanks for listening to The Jay Franze Show.
Make sure you visit us atjayfranze.
com.
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