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Music's rich tapestry unfolds as we travel through time on this episode, celebrating the birthdays of legends like Marvin Gaye (born 1939) and Emmylou Harris (1947), while uncovering fascinating historical moments in the entertainment world. Remember when Mariah Carey signed that jaw-dropping $60 million Virgin Records deal in 2001? We break down why this watershed moment matters and how it shaped the industry we know today.

The conversation heats up when we dive into today's breaking music news - from Miranda Lambert's game-changing partnership with Republic Records and independent powerhouse Big Loud, to Linkin Park's bold resurrection featuring new female vocalist Emily Armstrong. Their sold-out LA show marks a dramatic new chapter after the heartbreaking loss of Chester Bennington. Meanwhile, Green Day celebrates the 20th anniversary of "American Idiot" with unreleased tracks that prove some music deserves a second chance to be heard.

Our listeners light up the chat when we pose our question of the day: who's the greatest male vocalist of all time? The passionate debate spans genres and generations - from Steve Perry's unmatched range to Frank Sinatra's impeccable phrasing, from Freddie Mercury's theatrical power to the raw emotion of Chris Cornell. Jay shares fascinating insider knowledge about vinyl record production, explaining how physical limitations influenced which songs appeared where on albums, and why bass-heavy tracks needed special consideration.

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Tony Scott (00:05):
Welcome to The Jay Franze Show, a
behind-the-curtain look at theentertainment industry, with
insights you can't pay for andstories you've never heard.
Now here's your host, JayFrancie.

Jay Franze (00:33):
And we are coming at you live.
I am Jay Francie and joining metonight, the Judy to my George,
my beautiful co-host, miss.

Tiffany Mason (00:42):
Tiffany Mason.
Good evening, Jay.

Jay Franze (00:44):
There you go.
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(01:07):
, you can make fun of us, wedon't care.
All right, my friend, before weget started, let's just discuss
what the question of the day is, so I don't forget yet again.
Question of the day best malevocalist of all time.

Tiffany Mason (01:25):
Ooh.

Jay Franze (01:25):
All time.

Tiffany Mason (01:25):
I didn't realize it was of all time.

Jay Franze (01:27):
Think about it now Think.

Tiffany Mason (01:29):
Oh, I had about nine people.

Jay Franze (01:31):
No answers yet.
Keep that in mind.

Tiffany Mason (01:36):
Okay, guys, whatever you guys wrote down for
your list that you brought totonight's show, start narrowing
it down.

Jay Franze (01:43):
Of all time.
All right, I thought we wouldstart a little different this
week, because this week is mydaughter's birthday.
My daughter Bella just turned15 years old.
Very impressive, Veryimpressive that I've been able
to keep something alive for 15years.
But yes, 15 years old.

(02:06):
Very happy for her.
She's had a very good birthday.
It's been a great time.
We still have cake.

Tiffany Mason (02:11):
Can't beat that.

Jay Franze (02:13):
But that inspired me to think about well what else
has happened on this day inhistory and who else was born.
So we've got a couple ofbirthdays I would like to
acknowledge.
Back in 1939, 39, that's olderthan I am marvin gaye now, you
didn't think marvin gaye wasthat old, did you?

(02:34):
No, I didn't actually see, Isee some of these dates, I'm
like holy cow.
Yes, marvin gaye, this day 1939, and then in 1947, emmylou
Harris.
Really Do you?

Tiffany Mason (02:52):
have a crickets button.

Jay Franze (02:53):
I do have a crickets button.
It's not even worth finding forthat.
I cannot believe that that's sodisappointing.

Tiffany Mason (02:59):
What is the name?

Jay Franze (03:00):
Emmylou Harris.

Tiffany Mason (03:03):
Why would I know this person?

Jay Franze (03:05):
Famous, famous singer-songwriter.
Oh you, my friend, need to dosome homework Also this day in
history.

Tiffany Mason (03:15):
Emmylou Harris pen to paper.

Jay Franze (03:17):
John Lennon.
His 12-year-old drawings wererecognized and put into a school
book.

Tiffany Mason (03:23):
Okay, apparently he had drawings when he was 12
years old, 12-year-old drawingswere recognized and put into a
school book.

Jay Franze (03:25):
Okay, apparently he had drawings when he was 12
years old.

Tiffany Mason (03:29):
Put into a school book?
Who knew that crap becomesvaluable once you become famous?
So they dug deep and found someartwork.
Speaking of which, Jay, do youhave any artwork from when you
were 12?

Jay Franze (03:41):
You know I probably do somewhere.
Are we ready to put it on theauction blog?
Is that the point we're at?
Yes, Is that the point that theshow's at yes.
George, my friend, if you arehere tonight, please get on that
.
Yep, george is here.
George is in the house.

Tiffany Mason (03:55):
Add it to our Wikipedia.

Jay Franze (03:57):
So let's add that to our Wikipedia and let's get
that going.
Let's put some of my old,12-year-old artwork on sale.
What Sotheby's Christie's?

Tiffany Mason (04:10):
Does paper that old keep well?

Jay Franze (04:12):
Does it keep?
Well, well, my wife is anarchivist, so therefore we
should be able to do something.

Tiffany Mason (04:16):
Oh right, Okay, this is true.

Jay Franze (04:19):
Oh, I love her like a bad rash.
My friend Mariah Carey.
This day in history 2001, signsthe biggest record deal in
history.

Tiffany Mason (04:29):
Oh interesting.
2001,.

Jay Franze (04:30):
that's really not that long ago, it is not that
long ago and she is not all thatold.
She was 31 years old at thetime she signed a deal with
Virgin Records worth how much?

Tiffany Mason (04:44):
$8.2 million.
$8.2 million $8.2 million.
That's my guess.

Jay Franze (04:50):
You're low.

Tiffany Mason (04:54):
Oh, my goodness.

Jay Franze (04:56):
You're low by a lot.

Tiffany Mason (05:00):
I should have went with billion.
No, that would have been toohigh $60 million.
Holy crap.
The singer had sold over 120million records, Holy crap.
And let's see 2001,.
I mean, we were streaming bythen.

(05:21):
Were we streaming by then.

Jay Franze (05:24):
If we were, it was like Napster or something,
because the iPhone didn't evenplay until 2007.

Tiffany Mason (05:29):
Yeah, no, it was definitely like Napster and
stuff.
I'm trying to think becausePreston was born in 2000.

Jay Franze (05:36):
See, I produced a record in Nashville in the early
2000s and it went on to mp3.comand a few other places, but it
eventually hit number one in theworld country charts.
And the sad part about that Idon't know if I've ever
mentioned this before, but thesad part.
I produced this record for thisfolk country style singer in

(05:58):
Nashville, a woman named MarieMartin, and I wrote nine of the
ten songs on her record, so satdown, wrote nine of the ten
songs.

Tiffany Mason (06:11):
she wrote the tenth, the tenth is the one that
went to number one hers hers.

Jay Franze (06:17):
The one she wrote went to number one.
The ones I wrote I was just thefluffer, so there you go well,
we were talking before in thegreen room before we came on
about sprucing up our lips withour chapstick and our lip gloss
way too early to be taking aleft way too early to be taking
that kind of love I mean yousaid you were the fluffer oh,

(06:42):
the Black Crows.
Black Crows.
In 1999, the year that I movedto Nashville and started working
, they were sued.
They played a concert inKnoxville, tennessee, and they
were sued by a young man for$5,000.
Why $5,000?
I have no idea.
That seems awful low.

Tiffany Mason (07:01):
That he's really taking them for a ride.
He was claiming that he hadsignificant hearing loss it's
like the person who went tomcdonald's and got hot coffee
and then were pissed off thatthey got they made a hell of a
lot more than five thousanddollars, didn't they?
Yeah, wow.
If I lost my hearing or if Ihad my hearing affected, it'd be

(07:23):
worth more than $5,000 to me1990, eric Clapton got a
speeding ticket for going 105miles an hour.

Jay Franze (07:32):
Eric's got a lead foot.
He might be slow at the guitarbut he's fast in the car.

Tiffany Mason (07:39):
I was trying to think of some funny joke like
that because I was thinking hismusic's kind of slow but I was
like not on the road.

Jay Franze (07:44):
Well, he's got the nickname of slow hand oh 1990
nirvana.
They went into the studio torecord of all places, madison
wisconsin bob dylan blow my mindblow your mind blow my mind I'm
gonna.
I'm skipping Bob Dylan becausethat's not going to blow my mind
.
Bye, bob, 1977.

(08:11):
There's a few things thathappened in 77, but I'm going to
start with Frank Sinatra.
He scored his fourth number onealbum.

Tiffany Mason (08:19):
Okay, this day in 1977.

Jay Franze (08:23):
For songs from the Life of the man.
It consisted of 40 songs thatwere recorded for Reprise
Records.
Who knew?

Tiffany Mason (08:34):
Way to go, Frank.

Jay Franze (08:35):
Good for Frank.
Frank is going to come up laterin our list.
I'm certain of it as being oneof the greatest singers of all
time he's on my list.
I don't want to know your listyet, but Frank Sinatra, I mean
he's going to be one of the best.
If nothing else, he had some ofthe best phrasing ever in music
.
He was able to really hold arhythm and have really good

(08:57):
phrasing.
Band of your liking, fleetwoodMac this day in 1977.
They went to number one withthe release of Rumors.

Tiffany Mason (09:10):
Doesn't shock me.

Jay Franze (09:12):
Later went on for a Grammy winning album of the year
in 1978.
You know the Bay City.

Tiffany Mason (09:19):
Rollers.

Jay Franze (09:23):
Nope, you are disappointing me all over Jay
they went to number one this dayin 1975 why would I know the
bay city rollers?

Tiffany Mason (09:32):
why would anybody ?

Jay Franze (09:32):
popular band bye, bye baby okay all right.
Janice jofflin 1971 also had anumber one hit in US album
charts.

Tiffany Mason (09:45):
Is springtime, a time where a lot of albums come
out?
Is there actually a time?

Jay Franze (09:54):
of year when the most get released.
You know that's a good question.
I would say this time of yearis probably a good one, right
before the summer.
People want that summer hit.
That's always been a big thing.
Then in the fall people releaseit because they want to pick up
on the Christmas rush.
I'm sure there's other reasons,but those are the two I know of
.

Tiffany Mason (10:15):
Okay.

Jay Franze (10:18):
Here's one that strikes me as odd.
1969.
I don't know why I don'tremember this.
I was born in 1969.
Bruce springsteen, his firstgroup child.
I didn't know he had a firstgroup I didn't either they made
their live debut in new jerseyin 1969, on this day how old is

(10:42):
Springsteen?
He's old, he's older than.

Tiffany Mason (10:46):
I am for sure he is one of those people that just
stays the same age in my head.

Jay Franze (10:52):
Yeah.

Tiffany Mason (10:55):
But if you look at him now, he's not the same
age, for sure he's just stuck inhis 40s.

Jay Franze (10:58):
for me, Elvis Presley 1955, was on TV in
Louisiana.

Tiffany Mason (11:06):
It's probably a big deal though Back then.
Tv doesn't sound like a bigdeal to us now, but in 55.
Back then it was a big deal.

Jay Franze (11:13):
Not only that, but that was probably closer to the
start of his career.
When did Elvis start?
I know it ended in the, the.
I guess it ended in the earlyseventies.

Tiffany Mason (11:24):
I think the fifts is when he started.

Jay Franze (11:26):
Do we want any more?
One more.
Yep, one more 1964, the BeachBoys.
They recorded their next single, which went to number one.
It was called I Get Around.

Tiffany Mason (11:40):
So his career took off in 56.
So that would be right beforehis career took off.

Jay Franze (11:45):
So I would guess that would be an impressive
thing for him to make his debutappearance on television.

Tiffany Mason (11:51):
I wonder if it was on the Ed Sullivan Show.
I should have looked.

Jay Franze (11:54):
It does not say.
I'm going to guess if it's inLouisiana.
It was not.

Tiffany Mason (11:57):
Became a number one hit and regained national
attention through televisionappearances, including the Ed
Sullivan Show.

Jay Franze (12:03):
But that was in 56.

Tiffany Mason (12:11):
That was his big one so it says that his record
contract came out in 55 formoving his hips for gyrating.

Jay Franze (12:17):
So the ladies liked there you go all right okay,
what'd you say about the BeachBoys?

Tiffany Mason (12:21):
really over it.
I, I dismissed it.
Yeah, yeah, come back.
Beach Boys recorded their.
Really, I blew over it.

Jay Franze (12:25):
I dismissed it.
Yeah, yeah, come back Beach.
Boys recorded their next single, I Get Around.
It went to number one.
It went to number one in thesummer of this year of 1964.

Tiffany Mason (12:34):
They recorded their single I.

Jay Franze (12:35):
Get Around on this day and then it made it to
number one that summer.
So there you go, shock.

Tiffany Mason (12:42):
That's what we're talking about.
It proves the theory it provesthe theory it proves the theory
that we were talking about Jay.
There you go Well.
We have Kenny Jesney and he'sbeing inducted to the Country
Music Hall of Fame alongside thelate June Carter Cash and

(13:02):
esteemed producer Tony Brown.
Did you ever meet Tony Brown?

Jay Franze (13:05):
I did yes, absolutely.
Oh, wow Not only one of theworld's best producers, but a
great piano player.

Tiffany Mason (13:12):
Oh well, there you go.
We would never know thatnormally.

Jay Franze (13:15):
He is truly one of the world's best producers.
I mean, he's somebody inNashville who's been producing
records for years.
I mean laundry.
Laundry list of records.

Tiffany Mason (13:28):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (13:29):
One of the best, specifically Nashville.
He's done most of his stuff inNashville.

Tiffany Mason (13:34):
Maybe was it Bob Bullock.
Actually Were you telling usthat Bob started out in LA and
they asked him to move toNashville to work on some
projects?
Okay, so it was him.

Jay Franze (13:44):
He was working in LA , la and he was working ata
studio called Lion's Share andLion's Share was Kenny Rogers'
studio.

Tiffany Mason (13:52):
And when.

Jay Franze (13:52):
Kenny Rogers came in and heard the music that Bob
was recording and working onthere.
That's when Kenny Rogers wasmoving to Nashville.
So he requested that Bob comewith him and record his records,
which he did.
He ended up come with them andrecord his records, which he did
.
He ended up moving to Nashvilleand recording the records.
Neither one of them left.

Tiffany Mason (14:10):
They stayed there see, your stories are very
stuck in my brain.
See, I mean.
I thought you were gonna sayuseless, but I guess but is that
a common thing when producerswill produce in both or even, I
guess, atlanta's kind of?
I feel like Atlanta is like upand coming or has been up and

(14:31):
coming or whatever.
I feel like it's another Mecca,so do they tend to produce in
multiple locations?
Could you as a producer say Iwant to produce this record in
LA in that studio, or do youhave to stay in your own studio?
Do they have contract dealsLike how does that work exactly?

Jay Franze (14:49):
You can absolutely go wherever you want to record
the record as a producer as aproducer you can.
you can choose where you want togo, but obviously budget's
gonna depend on how you do thatas well.
Sure, in the days of the bobbullocks and those records that
they were producing, those werevery large budgeted projects.
These days you don't get thatsame budget to produce a project

(15:10):
, so there's no way you're goingto move a crew of people.
But I know Bob worked with MuttLang, who's one of the best
producers in the world, and theydid Shania Twain's records and
they went down to the Bahamas torecord it and Bob's got some
amazing stories.
But this is right before.
I worked for Bob, so I did notget to go to the Bahamas or work
with Shania Twain.

(15:30):
Thanks, bob.
However yes, they chose to go tothe Bahamas for that.
Most people stick in their lane, so Nashville is typically
known for country music and mostpeople stay in those studios.
They work with the sessionplayers who are union musicians
in Nashville.
They work with the sessionplayers who are union musicians
in Nashville.
So things are done very strictin a very business type manner.

(15:52):
Where LA is typically more ofthe rock pop stuff.
It's done a little bitdifferently.
But those people you might getone or two that might straggle
to a Nashville session, but mostof them will stay in LA and
then Atlanta it's more of thehip hop type stuff.
There are some rock bands fromAtlanta, but most of it is a hip
hop style music scene.
Those people aren't going tocome to Nashville and Nashville

(16:15):
people typically aren't going togo to Atlanta.

Tiffany Mason (16:18):
Interesting.
That makes sense.
Yeah, I feel like, uh, therewas a story maybe with Taylor
Swift doing the same thing wheresomewhere in Nashville and
somewhere in LA, but I thinkthat that's more common than
artists will do that versus aproducer.

Jay Franze (16:31):
Yeah, I mean she might be going to work with
different style of producers,Like when she was doing her
country record.
It was recorded in Nashville.
When she's doing her pop stuff,it's probably recorded in LA
and then, when she's workingwith collaborations that might
involve a hip hop artist or orsomething, maybe they do it in
atlanta yeah, interesting, thatmakes sense, okay.

Tiffany Mason (16:52):
Well, next on my list is co wetzel and jesse
murph's high road, and I lovethis song.
Um, although I like the countryversion, I was thinking it was
that co-wetzel, but it's not,because Jelly Roll has a like a
wrapping part of it or whatever.
Anyway, my sister and my nieceand my mom came down this past

(17:19):
summer and they introduced me toJessie Murph, and I love her
voice.
It's very raspy, but she says alot of swear words, so you know
, can we lay off the swear words?

Jay Franze (17:29):
So whenever I can find the clean version, which
always makes me laugh when yousay that Of all people, when you
say you need people to lay off,and then you take these
extremely hard lefts, it justmakes me crack up.

Tiffany Mason (17:40):
What the fuck are you talking?
About Jay.
I don't know what you're talkingabout.
Yeah, I just feel like it'slike it's just not necessary I
guess all the time, like thatwasn't necessary.
But I do love this song so muchand it starts out like they're

(18:03):
having an argument and it's kindof like the final argument.
They're just like so mad ateach other and they've been
unfaithful to're just like somad at each other and they've
been unfaithful to one another,or there's at least rumors that
they've been unfaithful to oneanother.
And then in this version, jellyroll comes on and he does this
whole rapping part and he'stalking about being addicted to
the hard style of life and howbunnies his harlequin, and it's

(18:24):
just like a super cute part.
And then jesse murph comes backin and I don't know.
I just I love the song.
So we have a uh routine orwhatever per se, that we listen
to wild ones by jesse murph, andthat gets me all amped up.
Okay, like she's saying howshe's addicted to like these

(18:45):
wild card guys these, you know,like the bad boy kind of, and so
she's talking how she'saddicted to like these wild card
guys these, you know, like thebad boy kind of, and so she's
talking about that.

Jay Franze (18:49):
Imagine that a woman likes the bad boys.

Tiffany Mason (18:52):
I know, I know it's weird.
I've never heard that storylinebefore, so I think that's why
it sticks with me.
It's so intriguing, you know.
So, um, that's what's going on.
And then Most likely.
Yes, I am getting it mixed up,okay.
So Wild Ones is where JellyRoll has the rapping part Okay,
right, and so she's talkingabout being addicted to the bad

(19:15):
boy type, and then Jelly Rollcomes in and talks about just a
hard life.
Anyways, it's great.
And then the High Road one isabout the couple and them doing
each other wrong and how.
He's like you know what, I'mnot gonna hang around for you to
have your little freak out,like just go nuts, but I'm not
going to hang out while you dothat and you're not going to
take me under with you, and Ijust love it that.
He's like sticking it to her.

(19:36):
But because I always listen tothose two songs together, I got
them mixed up, which?
is pretty.
Yeah, I know you're surprised bythat.

Jay Franze (19:45):
Wait, wait, wait before you move on.
Yes, I missed this earlier, butit's worth bringing back George
.
You two already have melaughing Amy.
Lewis Harris is amazing.
Imagine if Tiffany knew that.

Tiffany Mason (20:01):
And then Kenny says greetings.
I am not old enough to have theexperience that you guys have.

Jay Franze (20:04):
Really, is that what it is?

Tiffany Mason (20:08):
I want to point out.

Jay Franze (20:09):
you're only a year behind us.
Okay, fine, maybe a decade, butstill, it's only one.

Tiffany Mason (20:18):
Yes, greetings, mr Kenny.
All right.
Well, next on the list that Iwas going to point out is Luke
Combs.
He's prepping for Stagecoach2025 with a new set list.
He is hinting at surprises forhis upcoming festival headline
slot, so he must be talkingabout something that he wants to

(20:40):
perform.
That it's like a tease, likeyou guys won't believe what's
coming.
So you got to come out, got tocome to the concert, buy the
ticket so you can hear it.

Jay Franze (20:52):
What do you think that that means?
Hold on?
I'm looking because I I thoughtwhat's the date on that show?
Do you know?
It just says stagecoach 2025.

Tiffany Mason (21:01):
Thought Presley Tennant was on that, but I'm not
sure oh, there is also MirandaLambert signs major deal with
republic records.
I wonder if it was, what washer 60 million?
I wonder if it was 60 milliondollars or more it might be.
It might be a couple bucks morethan that with, uh, joint

(21:23):
venture with big loud.
Um, she's shaking up theindustry, do you know, big Loud?

Jay Franze (21:28):
Is it Big Loud or is it Loud?

Tiffany Mason (21:31):
Well, they both have capital letters, so I think
it's Big Loud.

Jay Franze (21:35):
Then no, I don't know.

Tiffany Mason (21:36):
Makes it a proper noun.

Jay Franze (21:38):
Let's find out.
Big Loud.
Big Loud Records.
Big Loud is an Americanindependent, multi-sector
entertainment company located inNashville.

Tiffany Mason (21:49):
And that is why it's shaking it up, because it's
independent.

Jay Franze (21:53):
But you said it was also with Republic.

Tiffany Mason (21:57):
Oh yeah, with Republic.
Records.

Jay Franze (21:58):
My guess is she signed a new record deal,
probably lost the major recorddeal she had and has now signed
an indie record deal and she'llbe touring and promoting stuff
from with that deal if I were abetting man that's what I would
say are you a betting man, jay?
In this case, I think I would,I would, I would bet my center

(22:21):
testicle oh god don't ask, it'sa long story.

Tiffany Mason (22:28):
But yes, I think.

Jay Franze (22:35):
Anyway, moving on up .

Tiffany Mason (22:38):
You're talking about me taking a left.
Why is my face more red than myshirt?

Jay Franze (22:46):
Nice.
Anywho, my guess is she hasbeen around long enough and
probably hasn't had anythingmajor going on.
Probably lost her major recorddeal and now has made another
deal with these companies out,promoting probably a new record,
I would hope and going on tourto support.

Tiffany Mason (23:08):
George says I'm covering my eyes, I think you
should cover your ears.
I think it's your ears, George,that you need to cover.

Jay Franze (23:21):
Kenny, oh my God, you're a third nut.

Tiffany Mason (23:26):
Oh, he do, but it's not god, okay.
Well, kelsey ballerini and noahkahan.
Now if you guys are listeningand you're shouting at the radio
that it's not kahan, let meknow, because my daughter thinks
it's noah khan and I think thatshe's more up on things.

(23:47):
But also, is she up on thephonics?
I don't know.
It's gone.

Jay Franze (23:50):
It is, it's gone I am almost certain it's gone, but
I'm gonna.
You know I like kahan better.
It's not kahan, I do like itbetter.

Tiffany Mason (23:59):
No, anywho, he and kelsey ballerini have a new
duet.

Jay Franze (24:06):
Du it um, cowboys cry too, and so I went it's con,
but I just made this thing,read it to me and it said kahan,
I don't siri, I don't like youtonight it's kahan.

Tiffany Mason (24:22):
There's Is the H silent.

Jay Franze (24:26):
Of course yes.

Tiffany Mason (24:28):
I saw a meme on Facebook and it said I have a
flat stomach, but the L issilent Okay sorry, I like that.

Jay Franze (24:44):
That works so we're saying the H is silent.
I just want to point out whenyour little emojis there think
of the first one as being normal, and then the second one is
what happens when you get kickedin it.
And now we just lost the restof our listeners.

Tiffany Mason (25:10):
Guys don't go.
Okay, eric Church's.
We talked about Eric Churchlast episode.
Hands of Time strikes courtwith traditionalists.
Church's latest single climbsto the top 20 pleasing purists.
I have not heard Hands of Time.
Okay, really quick, I want togo back and revisit Kelsey
Ballerina and Noah Cahan, andthe reason why I wanted to bring

(25:34):
it up is that I like Noah Cahana lot.
I like his folky kind of stuff.

Jay Franze (25:37):
You just got to keep saying it like that, aren't you
?

Tiffany Mason (25:40):
I definitely am, because that's how I learned it.

Jay Franze (25:43):
You might be right, but I'm telling you, I swear
it's Khan.

Tiffany Mason (25:46):
The masses are saying Khan, but until Noah
calls me personally and says,Noah, give us a call buddy
jfrenzycom.

Jay Franze (25:54):
Slash live, Join us, let us know.

Tiffany Mason (25:56):
That's the only way I'm going to pronounce it,
the way that you non-phoneticalspeakers are trying to tell me.

Jay Franze (26:05):
George, let's make you our field producer for the
night, can you?

Tiffany Mason (26:09):
figure out how to pronounce Noah Kahn's last name
, See Kenny says.

Jay Franze (26:11):
Kahan as well.
Kenny is not our field producer, Sorry.

Tiffany Mason (26:15):
Kenny.

Jay Franze (26:15):
If you're going to agree with Tiffany.

Tiffany Mason (26:22):
If you're agreeing with Tiffany, you don't
get a title.
Sorry, it's okay, kenny, youcan be my personal producer.
Okay, so we can go back to EricChurch.
Oh, he was just looking it up.
Okay, we interrupted George inthe middle of his research for
us.
Okay, so let's move on.
Linkin Park's From Zero tourkicks off with Sold Out LA show.

Jay Franze (26:39):
Why is that important?

Tiffany Mason (26:41):
You tell me, jay, you tell me I'm going to start
setting you up for questions youdon't know the answer to.

Jay Franze (26:48):
I don't mean it to be something you don't know the
answer to, but it's importantfor a very particular reason.
Tell me now, because Chester,their lead singer, he's no
longer with us.
He's passed away.

Tiffany Mason (27:02):
Okay.

Jay Franze (27:02):
Okay, and they have a new lead singer.
So that's why this is important.
This is a new lead singer.
So it's why this is important.
So this is a new lead singer.
So it's been a long time sincethey since they lost Chester.
I believe Chester took his lifein 2017.
So it's been a long time sincethey've performed, but they have
a new singer now.
Why is that such a big deal?
It's because it's a woman, sothey have a woman singer now.

(27:27):
I don't know if you know muchabout Linkin Park, but Chester
was the one who did thescreaming, so there was two
singers, and Chester was the onewho really belted out and was
the one singing.
So now Emily is the one who isnow belting out the screaming
and stuff.
Emily Armstrong.
So that's why it's big, that'sall.

Tiffany Mason (27:49):
That is a big deal.
It's a big deal for fans tosupport them, knowing that the
way that they, you know,appreciated the music was from a
male's voice, and now it'll bea female instead.

Jay Franze (28:00):
So it makes me think of Les Zeppelin a little bit
you know where people areexpecting that, Making
connections with the callbackDear God, look at us.
I retain.

Tiffany Mason (28:11):
I know you don't think I do, but I'm on it, I'm
on it, I'm on it.
Speaking of recall, do youremember the episodes where we
talked about Green Day?

Jay Franze (28:22):
I do Green Day.
They were engineered by ChrisLord-Alge.

Tiffany Mason (28:27):
Yes, well, their American Idiot turns 20 and
they're doing a deluxe freeissue, so it's been remastered
with unreleased tracks.

Jay Franze (28:38):
So if you thought you, knew all the deep tracks.

Tiffany Mason (28:41):
Nope.

Jay Franze (28:42):
That's something.
When people say, you knowunreleased tracks, do you think
they were any good?
Because if they were good inthe first place, wouldn't they
have made the record.

Tiffany Mason (28:51):
Well, wasn't there an episode where we talked
about when a song is releasedand sometimes the audience is
ready for it and sometimesthey're not?
So these 20-year-old songs theyhave decided we're now ready
for them we might be ready.

Jay Franze (29:10):
We're now ready for them.
You know, back in the 70s wehad the concern over whether or
not you you could put so manysongs on a record, because we
were limited by time right andit came out to roughly five
songs per side of an album.
So you'd end up with a five orsix song on each side to have a
10 or 12 song album.
These days you're not.
You don't have thoselimitations.
So green day certainly did nothave those limitations.
So Green Day certainly did nothave those limitations.
However, that would have been areason as well.

Tiffany Mason (29:34):
Yeah, yep, good point.
I never thought about that, butI have heard of that before,
that they you had to pick songsbased on that.
Now do you know of?
Were there ever like would youcut a song, cause you're like,
oh, we're at 58 minutes, but weonly have 56 minutes.
We're like, ah, switch out thissong then, or do you just cut a
, cut a verse, or how do youmake that right?

Jay Franze (29:53):
yeah, people have done that.
When you master an album, partof the the art of mastering is
the order of the song, theselection so you would try to
open up with a hard hitting song, then you might have your radio
single come in second, then youmight have a slow song, then
you might have your radio singlecome in second, then you might
have a slow song, and then youmight kind of repeat that
pattern throughout the play ofthe album.
However, when you had an actualphysical album, a wax album,

(30:19):
you had songs that might havebeen able to handle a little bit
more.
Bass in them had to be up front, they couldn't be at the end of
the album.
As the album got smaller, theactual physical circle, the
diameter of that circle, wouldget smaller.

Tiffany Mason (30:34):
Oh, what?
Oh, the diameter.
Okay, yes, got it.
Okay, so the bass, the heavybass songs had to be.

Jay Franze (30:43):
And not only that too, but heavy bass songs could
actually make the needle of arecord jump.
So if something was too heavyor it contained too much, that
needle could jump out of thegroove and be a poor listening
experience.
So some people used to tie likenickels or on top of the needle

(31:06):
to hold the needle down intoplace.
Interesting it's kind of likeputting cinder blocks in your
trunk in the winter to hold yourtires down for better traction.
You put in nickels or quarterson top of your, your needle to
hold it down.
So when?

Tiffany Mason (31:23):
I've literally never heard of that before.

Jay Franze (31:26):
Again, you were not doing this in the 70s.

Tiffany Mason (31:30):
Now, granted, I wasn't doing it in the 70s
either.
Yeah, Did they make the armwith the needle?
Did they make that more heavy?
Is that why?

Jay Franze (31:41):
I never saw them do that, but it would have been a
solution.
But yeah making records wasdefinitely an art form If you
ever look back at like some ofthe early days, like with the
Beatles and stuff the engineerswere wearing white lab goats
because they were.
they were actual, real engineers.
They weren't going in there tobe artists.
They were going in there toassist the artists create

(32:04):
something that needed to betechnical.
So the engineers were verytechnical people.
They weren't creative peopleand as time went on, the
engineers became more and morecreative and eventually shed the
lab coat.

Tiffany Mason (32:19):
Okay, that is super intriguing.
I never thought of that, butthat makes total sense.
All right, guys, we arelearning a lot here.
Let's see what Jay can tell usabout the Arctic Monkeys.
They begin recording theirseventh album in London, so
that's exciting.
Fans looking for new music.

Jay Franze (32:39):
That is exciting for the simple fact that it's my
daughter's favorite band.
Definitely one of her favoritebands anyways, but I took her to
see them in Nashville and theywere actually very good.
However, she was verydisappointed at the end of that
tour.
They said they were done, thatthey they weren't going to
continue anymore.
So the fact that they have anew album coming out would then

(33:00):
typically be followed up withthey're going to go on the road
and support it.
So Fun that's, um you, so funthat's, um you know, exciting
for her.
I see an arctic monkey concertin your future, jay.
I don't know if I can handleanother one was fine with me.
It's the type of music I, umyou know.
They have one or two songs thatI can listen to and feel okay
with, but it's it's a verydistinct sound of rock music

(33:25):
that I'm just not a fan of.

Tiffany Mason (33:27):
Okay.
Well, maybe your wife can takethem next time.

Jay Franze (33:31):
There you go.

Tiffany Mason (33:32):
Okay, next up we have Pearl Jam.
Wraps up Dark Matter Tour withan emotional Seattle finale.
Eddie Vedder bids farewell tothe road, for now with a
hometown show.
So they must be from Seattle.

Jay Franze (33:44):
They are from, must be from Seattle.
You kill me.

Tiffany Mason (33:47):
I'm putting two and two together here.
Jay, you kill me.
I came up with four.

Jay Franze (33:53):
It just cracks me up when you say things like you
don't know that.
How can you not know that?
No, no.
He's probably one of my morefavorite of the grunge bands.
Pearl Jam was.

Tiffany Mason (34:05):
Is he going to be your pick for your top male
vocalist?

Jay Franze (34:08):
No, not even close.
But you know what he would be.
He would be a distinct voiceGoing back to our previous
episodes.
Yet again, I would say thatEddie Vedder definitely has an
extremely distinct voice.

Tiffany Mason (34:24):
Yes, in the comments Kenny is saying that he
wears a lab coat, and I wouldguess so, because I went on to
Kenny's LinkedIn and turns outhe's got a very smart brain and
he does wear a lab coat.

Jay Franze (34:37):
for his job, kenny's curing cancer.

Tiffany Mason (34:39):
Mm-hmm, pretty important stuff there, kenny.

Jay Franze (34:42):
He's impotent.

Tiffany Mason (34:43):
He's impotent, you impotent, kenny, we
appreciate you.
And then maybe you want to wrapup with.
Acdc's power-up tour hitscleveland, cleveland finale
giveaway.
The rock titans launch acontest for fans to win tickets
to their last show.
I love me some acdc okay, acdcis good.

Jay Franze (35:08):
They're considered like the quintessential rock
band.
Now, to be fair, you can hearany ACDC song and you know what
it sounds like the next ACDCsong.

Tiffany Mason (35:21):
It's true, that's true, that's fair.

Jay Franze (35:22):
They have found a groove and they have stuck to it
.
But it's a good groove.
It's biker metal or biker rock.
Yeah.
You being near Daytona, thatwould be the music of choice in
that area during bike week forsure.
But Cleveland, I'm wondering ifthey chose that location based

(35:43):
on the Rock and Roll Hall ofFame.

Tiffany Mason (35:45):
I don't know.

Jay Franze (35:45):
That would be interesting to know.

Tiffany Mason (35:48):
If ACDC is listening, can you please let us
know Please?

Jay Franze (35:53):
jfrantycom slash live.
Yeah, it says the tour hits theUS, in Cleveland for the final,
or the finale or final giveawaytheir last hurrah, their last
show.

Tiffany Mason (36:09):
The E on the end is finale, Finale.
It's a finale giveaway.
I don't know.
You also said ca-haan.

Jay Franze (36:13):
The E on the end is finale, Finale.
It's a finale.

Tiffany Mason (36:15):
I don't know you also say ca-hon, because
phonetics.
Phonetics.
Sometimes it's geneticsPhonetics.

Jay Franze (36:24):
Yeah, I don't get that either.
I have a friend, Jason Sercone,podcaster, but his name's Jason
Sercone, with an E at the endof it and the lady in the phone
pronounces it Sikorni.
Mine has the E at the end of itand she pronounces it France.

Tiffany Mason (36:43):
So his is Sircone , mine is Francie, but yet
somehow Do you have the Americanperson speaking it or do you
have a different voice?

Jay Franze (36:52):
tone.
I have the default.

Tiffany Mason (36:55):
Oh, I have a South African, south African,
yeah.

Jay Franze (36:59):
South African.
You need an accent when youhave your phone docked to you.

Tiffany Mason (37:04):
I love that's.
My favorite accent is the SouthAfrican accent.
So when I figured it out, I waslike, wait what I can have my
lady talk to me in South Africanaccent, yes, please.
Figured it out, I was like,wait what I can have my lady
talk to me in south africanaccent?
Yes, please.
And I think I'm gonna startwatching pulse.
It is a uh hospital show inorlando it is not.

(37:26):
It is not um, that'd be mysecond choice yes, it, it was,
yes, it was.
And actually I had somebody cometo the coffee cart.
I said, oh, where are you guysfrom?
And they said Parkland.
And I was like ugh.
Yeah.
About that, yeah, unfortunate.

Jay Franze (37:47):
Very much so.
It's been brought up in thenews quite a bit lately because
they have video footage that wasnever released because it would
have shown that the nightclubis at fault for barricading some
of the doors in the buildingthat people could have escaped
from.
Oh.
So they had, like this freezer,that somebody was found
snuggled up against it trying toprotect themselves, that if

(38:11):
that freezer wasn't there theycouldn't move the freezer and if
it wasn't there it was blockinga door that they could have
escaped from.

Tiffany Mason (38:18):
That's too bad, that's sad.

Jay Franze (38:19):
Recent news.
There you go.

Tiffany Mason (38:21):
Yeah, yeah.

Jay Franze (38:23):
Actual news Too bad.

Tiffany Mason (38:25):
Actual news Not finale versus final or cajon
versus con yeah.

Jay Franze (38:33):
It's that last show versus con.
Yeah, it said last show.
Nonetheless, yeah.
So last show?
Okay, so if it's the last show,I think it's their last tour.
Yes, but does it end inCleveland?
It sounds as if it ends inCleveland.

Tiffany Mason (38:48):
I think it ends in Cleveland At the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame possibly.

Jay Franze (38:53):
Hmm, Are they in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
possibly?

Tiffany Mason (38:54):
Are they in the Rock and Roll Hall of?

Jay Franze (38:56):
Fame, or are they being nominated at all?
Inducted AC slash DC Inductionceremony was in 2003,.
Just to close the brain loop onthat for anybody.

Tiffany Mason (39:11):
So they were already inducted.

Jay Franze (39:12):
They were inducted in 2003.
Question of the day Best malevocalist of all time.
All right, yep, this is goingto be a big one, kenny sir.

Tiffany Mason (39:28):
Ready to fight?

Jay Franze (39:29):
George, start putting them in there, George.
I see you've got a few in therealready.
Anybody else?

Tiffany Mason (39:40):
out there entertaining us tonight.
Please go ahead and put yoursin there as well.
What is George setting up?

Jay Franze (39:47):
Oh, LinkedIn profile After the Wikipedia page oh,
George, you're too much.
All right, I'm going to gothrough our list Before we get
started.
I feel it's only right to startoff with mine.
My, this is a tough one, butbest male vocalist of all time,

(40:14):
prove me wrong would be StevePerry Perry actually nicknamed
the voice.
That man has a vocal range andis able to sing the phone book
and sounds silky smooth.
Best vocalist of all time handsdown.
We could probably stop here,but we won't, I'll give you the

(40:36):
opportunity to try to prove mewrong.

Tiffany Mason (40:38):
I don't know who I could pick.

Jay Franze (40:40):
Well, pick somebody.

Tiffany Mason (40:41):
Okay.
Well.

Jay Franze (40:52):
I really can't choose the buildup, for this is
fantastic.
Do I have a drum roll?
I'm not trying to be dramatic.

Tiffany Mason (40:59):
Well, I'm trying to think of, you know,
complexity, oh God.

Jay Franze (41:06):
Did that help?
Did that bring it to theforefront?
Try it again.

Tiffany Mason (41:10):
That put more pressure on me.

Jay Franze (41:15):
Would you like?

Tiffany Mason (41:16):
me to read a few comments first.

Jay Franze (41:16):
Yes, let's do that would that help take something
off for you?

Tiffany Mason (41:22):
all right well I literally have like 10 people,
so I can mark a couple off well,let's go with George.

Jay Franze (41:31):
George's first comment says Ray Price.
His voice is smooth and clean.
He also says Randy Owen and RayPrice, all right.
Well, I mentioned Steve Perryand Michael says ever Question

(41:53):
mark, question mark, questionmark.
He says well, steve Perry,obviously he needs to be part of
this conversation.
I agree with you, michael, verygood.
But then he says you could alsoconsider Freddie Mercury or
Frank Sinatra.
Again, this is a very difficultconversation.
There are many that could be inthe running.

Tiffany Mason (42:16):
I agree with that .

Jay Franze (42:17):
So I replied to him and I said I agree, steve Perry
would be the ultimate choice.
However, if we wanted to go fora couple more, I would say that
Jeff Tate now who is Jeff Tate?
Miss Tiffany, don't fire me.

Tiffany Mason (42:38):
Tiffany, you're fired.

Jay Franze (42:41):
Only because we've discussed it several thousand
times Jeff Tate, the lead singerof Queensryche.
So I said to Michael yes, Iagree that Steve Perry would be
my vote for sure.
However, jeff Tate or Brad Delp?
I said to Michael yes, I agreethat Steve Perry would be my
vote for sure.
However, jeff Tate or Brad Delp, you know, brad Delp.

Tiffany Mason (43:01):
Tiffany, you're fired, goodbye.

Jay Franze (43:04):
Brad Delp, lead singer of the band Boston.

Tiffany Mason (43:07):
Okay.

Jay Franze (43:10):
Okay, so amazing, amazing singers that would be my
style of singer for sure.
Steve Perry, jeff Tate, bradDelp.
And then Michael replied backand he says Brad Delp, all caps,
yes.
Oh, and then he says well, JeffTate, that opens another door
or another can of worms.
He says so how about Don Dawkin?

(43:30):
Oh, Don.
Dawkin, lead singer of the bandDawkin, as you can see this is
a very difficult conversation.

Tiffany Mason (43:40):
Well, it is because it's like well, what
genre?
So, honestly, I'm not going toimpress you with this.
I'm not going to impressanybody with this, so I don't
want to say it.

Jay Franze (43:50):
We're just talking.
Who you think is the best?

Tiffany Mason (43:54):
Well it's a two-way tie for different genres
, but I picked Josh Grobman.

Jay Franze (44:01):
I don't know who that is.

Tiffany Mason (44:02):
So he's like an opera singer.
He's not actually opera, but hesings like some of the Polar
Express songs and he's likevocally trained.
It's more professional in aprofessional setting than like a
band or like radio.

Jay Franze (44:20):
I mean he has radio songs but Opera singers are some
of the best in the world by far, so I wouldn't rule that out.

Tiffany Mason (44:27):
So that was my first person that I wrote down
before I searched anything,whatever.
Okay, now I have all the peopleon my paper.
You're not?

Jay Franze (44:34):
supposed to search who you think is the best singer
in the world?
You're just supposed to thinkwho you think it is.

Tiffany Mason (44:39):
Okay, well, I thought of nine other people.

Jay Franze (44:42):
Okay, why don't you go ahead and give us another one
?

Tiffany Mason (44:47):
Okay, if I had to go on, somebody I actually
really thought of on my own wasSam Cooke.

Jay Franze (44:51):
All right, that was somebody I actually really
thought of on my own was SamCooke.

Tiffany Mason (44:53):
All right, that was somebody I thought of on my
own.
Josh Turner was somebody Ithought of on my own because of
the low.
I just like him.
It's not really.

Jay Franze (45:02):
I don't really know if he's got what it's not that
he can sing at all, I just likethe guy no, he can sing, but you
know he sings that big blacktrain song.

Tiffany Mason (45:13):
There's a big, long black train, that's what it
is long black train.
But Frank Sinatra would havebeen my other, so I would have.
I put little dots next to FrankSinatra and Josh Groban, but I
didn't come up with FrankSinatra out of my head.
But most of the Christmas songsthat I have on my Christmas
playlist are Frank Sinatra,among a lot of other Frank
Sinatra songs.

(45:33):
But just saying that, I doactually know his music and,
yeah, all right, and I alsothink that they are from a time
period where you had to actuallybe able to sing and Frank
Sinatra's version of singingit's very vocal forward.
Right, so you can't hide thestuff they're like in bands.

(45:55):
You can hide some imperfections, the vocals there, but the band
is very much a part of whatyou're hearing, opposed to Frank
Sinatra, where it was, like Isaid, I feel like more vocal
forward.

Jay Franze (46:09):
Especially back at that time or even in the earlier
days of rock, before you endedup in with digital equipment
where you could tune vocals anddo all those things.
I've seen some, some producersin the studio do some pretty
amazing things to make vocalssound better, like they'll.
They'll play the same note on aguitar and have the guitar hold

(46:30):
that note and you think it'sthe vocalist.
So I mean, I've seen somepretty, pretty cool stuff oh,
that's impressive.

Tiffany Mason (46:38):
Sometimes I do wonder how do they hold the note
so long?

Jay Franze (46:42):
yeah, it's like they sing it and you just press a
button hold until you're readyto let go of it.
No, most most trained singersare definitely good enough to do
that on their own.

Tiffany Mason (46:51):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (46:51):
Yeah, george says Robert, daughtry, daughtry
Robert.

Tiffany Mason (46:56):
Daughtry.

Jay Franze (46:58):
Speaking of.
Daughtry, I think Daughtry isby far one of the best vocalists
out there, yes, does not getthe credit that he deserves,
being a great vocalist.

Tiffany Mason (47:09):
He's amazing, absolutely.

Jay Franze (47:11):
I think, that man can sing.

Tiffany Mason (47:14):
Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze (47:15):
And he really doesn't get the credit.
He didn't win the Idol, hedidn't even win that other one
Is it.
Masked Singer.
He fell short on that as well.

Tiffany Mason (47:24):
I hate that show.
I think that show is stupid,stupid.

Jay Franze (47:30):
My wife doesn't like when.
I watch shows like that, and Ipoint out all the things that
aren't real well, it's like uh,is it comic-con, is that?

Tiffany Mason (47:38):
yeah, it's like comic-con, and I'm I just don't
do it.

Jay Franze (47:40):
Hey, that's a big, big part of our audience.
Don't go insulting them no, I'mnot.

Tiffany Mason (47:45):
I'm not insulting them, I'm saying I just can't
go there and now you're young.

Jay Franze (47:51):
Oh, I went to a comic-con once.
I went with um, a buddy of mine.
His son was there and we wentto pick him up and we went in
and walked around and I had mydaughter, bella, who's now 15
she was probably three at thetime and we were walking through
and she thought it was coolthat everybody's dressed up.

(48:12):
She had no idea why people weredressed up.
She thought it was cool, but sheloved it so we took a picture,
and one of the pictures we tookwas with this bunny or this
rabbit, and it was derangedlooking.
I mean it looked like it wasgoing to eat her or kill her or
do something like she was soexcited because this was around
easter time, so my wife wasposting pictures of the kids
with the easter and I postedthat picture and all the

(48:33):
comments were like what is this?
What mall is this at?
This is just ridiculous.
I thought it was cute, not amall people.

Tiffany Mason (48:41):
That's funny.

Jay Franze (48:42):
George says this Roger Daughtry is from the who.
Yes, roger Daughtry is from.
The who.
Chris Daughtry is just ChrisDaughtry from the band Daughtry.

Tiffany Mason (48:52):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (48:53):
All right, let's see here.
Eddie says Ronnie Dunn.

Tiffany Mason (48:57):
Country Ronnie.

Jay Franze (48:59):
Dunn is good.
I don't know if he's one of thebest in the world, but he's
definitely good.
I mean, he's a good singer.

Tiffany Mason (49:04):
Does he sing country?

Jay Franze (49:05):
He's country, brooks and Dunn.

Tiffany Mason (49:07):
Oh, yes, okay, hello.

Jay Franze (49:09):
Bruce Tarlecki in the house folks.

Tiffany Mason (49:12):
Oh, hey, bruce.

Jay Franze (49:14):
Bruce, sir, previous guest, amazing songwriter and
part of the Nashville Supergroup, the High Mountain Breezes.
He says BJ Thomas, all right.
Cindy says there's too many tolist.
Well, there wouldn't be toomany to list if we went with the
rule of the game and said bestof all time.

(49:34):
But she says Freddie Mercury.
Chris Cornell.

Tiffany Mason (49:38):
I had him on my list.

Jay Franze (49:40):
So Freddie Mercury, Chris Cornell, Eddie Vedder, Axl
Rose, Dierks Bentley, NeilYoung but I'm loving Zach Ryan
right now.
Now, it's an eclectic list.
I like, I think, everybody onthat list.
I've never been the biggestNeil Young fan, but I like
everybody on the list.

(50:00):
But I don't think they're thebest.

Tiffany Mason (50:04):
So he's censoring it, you guys, he's only going
to read the ones that he agreeswith.

Jay Franze (50:10):
I just read a whole list of people that I don't even
like.
I mean, I don't mind FreddieMercury, he's one of the best.
He's one of the best.
I'll give him that.
Chris Cornell.
I liked Chris Cornell, butEddie Vedder was the next one on
her list.
I would rather listen to EddieVedder than I would Chris
Cornell.

Tiffany Mason (50:27):
Yeah, well, also, when they have that low of a
voice, it is kind of like whatyou said about ACDC, where it's
like they picked a lane and theyreally stayed in that lane.
When you have that low voice,it's not very dynamic.

Jay Franze (50:38):
Where Axl Rose next on our list.
I mean super high notes, butalso low notes.
Yeah, when he sings the songPatience it's pretty low, but he
can quickly turn it on and moveup.
And I don't know if you've seencarrie underwood playing with
guns and roses either, butthat's pretty impressive too.
She took axel rose's place fora period of time and went out

(51:02):
with guns and roses.

Tiffany Mason (51:03):
I mean it's pretty good oh, my goodness, I'm
gonna have to look that up.
I'm gonna have to write thatdown too.

Jay Franze (51:08):
And she mentions dirks bentley, you know how I
feel about him.
I like.

Tiffany Mason (51:12):
Dierks Bentley.
But playing hockey was not, hewas the enemy.

Jay Franze (51:18):
All right, kenny.
Kenny says Robert Plant.
Robert Plant is definitely oneof the best of all time.
I don't know, I don't know,he's not my favorite, but he's
definitely he was on the listwhere I looked up, but they
listed like 50 people.
Kenny also says he likes ChrisCornell.
His version of patience isbetter.

(51:40):
I don't know, that's a toughone.
George, says Randy Owen ofAlabama.
Thank you, george.
Misty says Bruce Dickinsonysays Bruce Dickinson.
Who is Bruce Dickinson?

Tiffany Mason (51:59):
Me Tiffany, I thought you were asking Misty.
You're fired, tiffany.
I thought you were asking Mistyand I was like thank God, jay
doesn't know who it is either.

Jay Franze (52:09):
You know who it is.
You just read a story about hisplane being cut into key chains
.
We've talked about him like 60times on this show.
He's the lead singer of IronMaiden.

Tiffany Mason (52:26):
That's what I said, lead singer of Iron Maiden
, that's what you were sayingthat makes more sense now, I'm
sorry.

Jay Franze (52:31):
I thought it said Misty.
Misty says Bruce Dickinson, sothere you go Kim Kim says Elvis.
Kate Stanton in the house folks.
Kate Stanton says James Keenan,Maynard, James Keenan is one of
my favorites.

Tiffany Mason (52:50):
she says All right, well, I've been very
thankful.
Friday night I was like youknow, I'm going to check out
some stand-up comedy on Netflix.
So I queued it up and I waslike, well, who do I want to
watch?
So I watched one guy and I waslike, well, meh.

(53:11):
So I moved on to the next guyand I was like, so, move on the
next guy.
And I was like, yeah, maybe.
And then I landed.
Okay, you know, like when youfind that that just golden gem
on netflix and you're like, yes,I'm gonna watch the whole
series as fast as I can thesedays.
You find it on tiktok that ishow I feel about Nate Bargatze.

(53:33):
He's also known as theTennessee Kid.

Jay Franze (53:36):
He is.
Why is that?

Tiffany Mason (53:37):
Because he's from Nashville.

Jay Franze (53:39):
It wasn't a trick question.

Tiffany Mason (53:41):
It's a very simple explanation.
He's from Nashville, sobasically his face never changes
and I really love that.
So it doesn't matter how hardhe lays something down, you
never know that he's trying tolike cue it queue up a joke.
Yeah, you never know he'strying to like queue up a bit.
Obviously he is because he's onstage, but it was very

(54:02):
interesting or very funny towatch him.
And so then my husband had beendoing some stuff in the kitchen
and he was wrapping things upand he came and sat down with me
and we just like could notconvince ourselves to turn it
off, so much so that we justwent into the next one by Nate
Bargetzi and we just watching it, and I'm such a fan.
So then I found out he'sactually going to be in

(54:25):
Jacksonville at the Vice StarVeterans Memorial Arena on
August 18th.
So I looked at tickets.
It was like $125 for it's afairly large arena, but he has a
round in.

Jay Franze (54:38):
It's ridiculous to me that tickets are that
expensive.

Tiffany Mason (54:40):
No, no, no, and that's low, but that's still too
expensive.
No, no, no, the ones that werelike you know where you could
like reach out and touch him.
Some were 725 dollars yeah, ifyou're gonna touch them, you
gotta pay a little bit more.

Jay Franze (54:55):
Whoa, that's what the girl in the corner tells me
the lot lizard.

Tiffany Mason (55:01):
Dude the lot lizard.

Jay Franze (55:02):
Dude, I have gone through so many truck yards
lately and that's all I canthink of now.

Tiffany Mason (55:10):
So, anyways, he was a good find and I actually
found out that he has a podcast,so it's called the Nate Land
Podcast.
Now he's on like episode 246 orsomething Right.
So I noticed that, um, like inthe show notes it'll start to
say like Nate's not in thisepisode, blah blah, blah, blah
blah.
But he also has a cohost.
I think Aaron was his name andit's like Aaron's not in this

(55:33):
episode.
Blah, blah, blah, blah blah.
So on the cover art there'sfour guys, so I'm assuming they
all take breaks for their gigs,but I'm definitely going to
catch a couple more episodes.

Jay Franze (55:44):
I didn't know he had a podcast.
That's good to know.

Tiffany Mason (55:47):
I didn't either.

Jay Franze (55:47):
So if you guys are looking for some comedy while
driving, he's one that if you docatch him on Instagram or
TikTok or any of those things,he's very good.

Tiffany Mason (55:57):
He's so funny, really loved him.
Okay.
Comedian Angela Johnson verygood, he's so funny, really
loved him.
Okay.
Comedian angela johnson did youever see the skit about the
nail salon?
She is of some kind of latin,spanish, mexican descent, but
she does this imitation of thetaiwanese or.
I'm sorry.

(56:18):
I don't know what nationalitythe nail salon people are, but
somewhere from Asia.

Jay Franze (56:23):
You're about to cross a line.

Tiffany Mason (56:25):
No, I'm not because they are like I can't
help it.
It's a fact.
I'm not.
I'm not being mean to anybody,but so she does this skit where
she talks like them kind of.
And the reason why it resonatesso much with me is when Hannah
was like four years old, we wentinto this nail salon.
They're doing her nails and mydaughter has very large blue

(56:45):
eyes and a lot of Asian peoplehave brown eyes and so it's not
something that they see all thetime or they admire the blue
eyes or something.

Jay Franze (56:55):
I don't know if I know any Asian person who has
blue eyes.

Tiffany Mason (56:58):
I don't think so, but also I don't want to make
any assumptions Anyways, I'vealready made too many.
And so we were in the salon.
They were doing her nails.
We were doing like a littlepedicure, a little mommy
daughter pedicure, or sorry,manicure.
And she's doing the nails andshe looks up at Hannah, she
looks back down and she looks upat Hannah and she looks over at
me and she looks back at Hannahand then she tells all the

(57:18):
girls to come over in whateverher native languages or whatever
the language they all speak,and she's telling them to come
over and look and they're like,ah, look, look, look, and so
they don't do it.
So they look, then they look athannah, and then they look at me
, and then they look at me andthey go ah, daddy I.
I was like thanks a lot, youjerks di.

(57:44):
I was like thanks a lot, youjerks.
Well, what caught my eye aboutthis story was that she was
recently in texas talking abouther experience with buckies.
Do you guys have buckies up inthe ohio kentucky area?

Jay Franze (57:57):
um there's one that I know of in kentucky I drive by
on my way to the SmokyMountains.

Tiffany Mason (58:02):
Have you been to it?

Jay Franze (58:03):
I have yes.

Tiffany Mason (58:05):
Okay, it's an experience y'all.
It's like gas station meetsWalmart meets, like interior
decorating like Kirkland's orsomething right.
They have everything there, butwhat I love, oh, oh my gosh, I
didn't even do it on purpose.
I have my Bucky shirt on.

Jay Franze (58:22):
Dear God, when you start lifting up your shirt.
They have Tiffany goes wild.

Tiffany Mason (58:26):
Take your shirt on Tiffany.

Jay Franze (58:27):
Do you remember that Girls Gone Wild?

Tiffany Mason (58:30):
Yes, oh my gosh yes.

Jay Franze (58:31):
That guy got in so much trouble after a while Not
from the show, I mean, he made aboatload of money but he got in
some serious trouble where hehad to leave for a little while.

Tiffany Mason (58:41):
Okay, he was back in the news recently as well.
Interesting.

Jay Franze (58:45):
Can I tell you something about Buc-ee's?

Tiffany Mason (58:47):
Yes, please, oh my god, I love Buc-ee's.
When people come down here fromany other state, I'm always
like we're going to take you toBuc-ee's.
We've got to go to Buc-ee's,yeah, I get it gas station.

Jay Franze (58:57):
It's a truck stop style gas station.

Tiffany Mason (58:59):
Yes, yes, it's a big mecca.
Much, much better.

Jay Franze (59:05):
Big mecca of a gas station, for sure.
I mean it's got like a hundredpumps and that's not an
exaggeration.
I mean it's got a lot of gasbombs, it's got.
You know, they serve food andthey serve good food and all
that stuff.
I get it.
Yes, but the couple of things Inoticed if you go into the, the
restroom, there it posts thejob openings.

Tiffany Mason (59:21):
Yes.

Jay Franze (59:22):
And how much they pay people.

Tiffany Mason (59:23):
Yes.

Jay Franze (59:24):
They pay an extreme amount of money for those people
to work there.
But there was a guy on the newsthe other day talking about
things you can't do if you workat Buc-ee's.
Like they said if you even pickup your phone, you're fired.

Tiffany Mason (59:38):
Tiffany, you're fired, goodbye.

Jay Franze (59:41):
They have all sorts of rules.
They said if you eat one biteof food and don't pay for it,
fired.
Now that makes sense.
I mean, I get it, but I mean ifyou're the cook and you're
making the food and you can'ttaste your work.
That would seem wrong.

Tiffany Mason (59:54):
Yeah, yeah.

Jay Franze (59:57):
Anyways, that's all Sorry.

Tiffany Mason (01:00:04):
I'm going to the.
The interruption you mentionedcomedians on tiktok and that is
where this was posted was ontiktok, where she was talking
about bucky's staples at hermeet and greet with the mascot
bucky the beaver.
Like I want to meet bucky thebeaver.

Jay Franze (01:00:16):
I have not met bucky anyway I don't want to be
around any beaver.
That's Bucky.

Tiffany Mason (01:00:26):
Oh, I have so many things I want to say.
Well, just to draw this storyout longer, her last comedy,
special Say I Won't is going tobe available on YouTube and
she's going to actually be atthe Florida Theater this
Saturday, which I will be inDaytona.

Jay Franze (01:00:43):
But very exciting, you have the list in front of
you, don't you?
I can put it in front of me,but that doesn't make it
spontaneous.
I see you got Jim Gaffigan onyour list.
I see you got Theo Vaughn.
You got Amy Schumer, sarahSilverman.

Tiffany Mason (01:00:57):
Oh, I just like how you say Sarah Silverman
because you have the accent.
I just like how you say SarahSilverman because you have the
accent.
Sarah, I can't do it.
Sarah Silverman, I used tothink she was very cute when, I
thought she was cute.

Jay Franze (01:01:10):
I was living in an apartment above a bakery.
If you ever have an apartment,that's the best place to have
one.
I was directly above a bakery,but the girl that was above me
looked just like Sarah Silverman.
However, in my opinion, sarahSilverman's a little off her
rocker, but she's funny, so Okay, so she's got good looks.

Tiffany Mason (01:01:32):
She's funny, but a little.
I know you wanted to talk aboutTheo Vaughn's podcast hits 500
episodes with.

Jay Franze (01:01:41):
Joe Rogan.
I just think it's an impressivething.
Do you not know Theo Vaughn?
Please tell me you know TheoVaughn.

Tiffany Mason (01:01:47):
I'm not going to tell you if I do or don't.
You don't know.
Theo Vaughn, I want to reachfor this button over here
there's one of them, Pick one.

Jay Franze (01:01:56):
You want one, two or three.

Tiffany Mason (01:01:58):
Three.
Tiffany, you're fired.
Goodbye, because they all fireme.

Jay Franze (01:02:04):
They all fire you for sure.
Here you know, Theo Vaughn.

Tiffany Mason (01:02:09):
Oh, I did look him up, actually, and I don't
know him.
Oh dear God.

Jay Franze (01:02:13):
You deserve button two.

Tiffany Mason (01:02:14):
Tiffany, you're fired.

Jay Franze (01:02:16):
What you really deserve is button one.

Tiffany Mason (01:02:18):
Tiffany, you're fired.

Jay Franze (01:02:22):
I like that one because there's a little bit of
a giggle in the middle.

Tiffany Mason (01:02:25):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (01:02:26):
It's like he's enjoying it.

Tiffany Mason (01:02:28):
Okay, can we reread this sentence though?
So his podcast hits 500, or hewas on Joe Rogan's 500th episode
, no his podcast.

Jay Franze (01:02:36):
He is right up there when it comes to popularity in
podcasts.
Joe Rogan is always at the top,but Theo Vaughn is in the top
10 for sure on his podcast.
I don't get it.
I don't think he's that worthyor that good.
To me he's known as being moreof the redneck style comedian.

Tiffany Mason (01:02:59):
Like Jeff Foxworthy-ish.

Jay Franze (01:03:00):
Not quite that over the top, redneck, he's just.
You know, you can see in thepictures he's got the mullet and
all that stuff.
He's just that type of person.

Tiffany Mason (01:03:10):
Okay, but he's very good.
He's funny.
He made with his mullet.
He makes me think of PatrickSwayze from Roadhouse.

Jay Franze (01:03:15):
He does that first picture, does have that look to
him for sure.

Tiffany Mason (01:03:19):
Yeah.

Jay Franze (01:03:20):
But yeah, his show is popular.
It's very popular.
It's an interviews-based showwhere he gets on there and
interviews other comedians.

Tiffany Mason (01:03:27):
For the most part , and stuff that's so fun, but
for him to have 500 episodes ispretty good.

Jay Franze (01:03:31):
It's pretty impressive.

Tiffany Mason (01:03:32):
It really is.

Jay Franze (01:03:33):
And to have Joe Rogan be that number 500 is
pretty cool as well.

Tiffany Mason (01:03:37):
Yeah, yeah, no, you're right.
You're right, it's a pretty bigdeal.
I mean, for Joe Rogan to be anynumber on your podcast is a big
deal, but to make it all theway to 500, it's an
accomplishment, it is.

Jay Franze (01:03:48):
George says so it's best for a comedian to be
working in a club.
Yeah, it's more fun to see acomedian in a club, for sure,
although I did say BertKreischer could command the
audience in a stadium.
Super impressive, you know, tohave 30 plus thousand people in

(01:04:08):
a stadium and to be able to holdtheir attention and like it was
a club.
That was awesome.

Tiffany Mason (01:04:14):
Yeah, because that could get out of control
real fast.

Jay Franze (01:04:16):
Yeah, and he was spot on.
That's one I didn't expect.
But Theo Vaughn, he's in thatcrowd, he does the Burt
Kreischer stuff and he workswith them a lot.

Tiffany Mason (01:04:28):
Yeah, well, moving right along, miss Amy
Schumer talks weight lossjourney on the View.
Schumer credits Mongero andclaps back at critics.

Jay Franze (01:04:39):
If we need a sponsor , Edits.

Tiffany Mason (01:04:41):
Mongero and claps back at critics.
If we need a sponsor tonight'sshow, is not sponsored by?

Jay Franze (01:04:45):
what is it Chloroseptic?
It is not sponsored byChloroseptic, but if you would
like to sponsor our show, thatwould be nice of you.
However, I have a sore throattoday.

Tiffany Mason (01:04:56):
if you can't tell , I cannot tell.

Jay Franze (01:04:58):
I woke up with it just today, raw.

Tiffany Mason (01:05:00):
Maybe you snored.
That's what my wife says.

Jay Franze (01:05:02):
She says I do.
I've never been a snorer.
But she says lately I wake upin the middle of the night like
I stop breathing and wake myselfup.
And I don't know if I believethat, but it might be true, who
knows?

Tiffany Mason (01:05:18):
Maybe you have sleep apnea, because I have
sleep apnea and what washappening to me is the hangy
ball, the uvula.
I would snore and it would getswollen and then, when I would
wake up, I would think I had asore throat, but really it was.
My uvula was sore because itwas rattling like a bell all
night long don't be showing usyour uvula on the camera.

Jay Franze (01:05:38):
I can breathe through my nose right now, right
yeah, you can breathe fine.
Yeah, but as soon as I lay downand go to bed tonight, it'll
close right up well, that'swhat's beautiful when you have a
c-pap, even if you have astuffy nose.

Tiffany Mason (01:05:50):
When you lay down and put the little c-pap little
nose pillow in, it just openseverything up and you just go
right to night night land.
When I got tested, I had 16interruptions per hour and they
were like you are stoppingbreathing 16 times.

Jay Franze (01:06:07):
George says if you're going to show us your
uvula, he's going to close hiseyes again.

Tiffany Mason (01:06:14):
I'll show you my shirt, my uvula, all right,
sorry, oh my gosh.

Jay Franze (01:06:21):
Don't mean to interrupt you with such nonsense
.

Tiffany Mason (01:06:24):
Well, I was telling a very exciting story.

Jay Franze (01:06:27):
Tell us the story.

Tiffany Mason (01:06:28):
You mentioned Amy Schumer, and so it's not really
that great of a story, thoughthat she's using Manjaro,
whatever, and I guess she'sgiving it back to people who are
judging her.
You know, amy Schumer, do you?
Who cares?
Just do like Taylor Swift Shakeit off.

Jay Franze (01:06:42):
They comment on her weight a lot.

Tiffany Mason (01:06:45):
All the time.
Get over it.
Not everybody has perfect genesNot everybody, you know.
Sometimes our bodies soar fromtrauma, or sometimes we're
stressed out, or sometimes it'stoo much cortisol.
Think about her life.
She's probably not sleepinggood.
She's traveling all the time.
Now she's got a baby.
Like forget about it.

Jay Franze (01:07:02):
Well, her weight is one that fluctuates, yeah, but
then she brings it up in herroutine a lot, yeah, so she
talks about her weight in herroutine.
So that kind of opens the doorfor people to make comments as
well.
I think she's a very, veryfunny comedian.
I think she's a very, veryfunny comedian, but she does
some things and makes somecomments that are off the wall

(01:07:26):
sometimes and she makes justsome extremely weird comments To
me.
once you jump the shark a littlebit on those type of things,
then it makes it hard to look atyou otherwise, but I still like
her.

Tiffany Mason (01:07:46):
She's one of my favorites.
Yeah, yeah, I'm still a fan.
I'm still a fan too.
Well, I want to tell you guysthe April Fool's jokes that I
played on my daughter because Iwas really proud of myself.
So I don't do it every year,but the years that I get a wild
hair I'm on it right.
So I researched what I was goingto do.
My husband makes cake pops forour coffee peddler, and so I

(01:08:09):
said can you get some Brusselssprouts and we will dip them
like cake pops.
And so when Hannah camedownstairs I was like oh, dad
made a new flavor.
He wanted you to try it out.
And then he made a couple extrafor your friends, if you
wouldn't mind, you know, givingit to them and seeing what they
think.
And so she was like oh yeah,okay, cool.
And so she got it out and shewent to go take a bite.
She was like so we wrapped upthe other ones and she swiftly

(01:08:35):
brought them to school.
Of course, then I stuffedtissues in the tips of her shoes
.
So when she went to go put hershoes on, there was like crap in
her shoes, you know.
So she was pretty pumped aboutthat, okay.
So I thought that like, oh,while I'm doing Hannah's shoes,
I'll do Sean's shoes.
He had three pairs of shoes.
He had been wearing dressslacks, so I did it in his two

(01:08:58):
dressier pairs of shoes.
Then I saw his tennis shoes andI was like well, well, he only
uses those when he goes running.
I was like I'm not going to putthem in there.
So that day he gets ready.
Oh, yesterday he gets ready andhe walks out with his tennis
shoes.
And I was like, oh, you're notgoing to wear your other shoes.
And he was like no, and I waslike, oh, okay.
I was like hannah, guess what?

(01:09:23):
I was like I never took thetissue out.
We're gonna get dad thismorning, ha, you know.
So I'm all excited waiting forhim to put his shoes on, but his
freaking tennis shoes on again.
So tomorrow I'm gonna shootsome tissues in his tennis shoes
because I'm getting this trickpulled.
Even if it's April 3rd or 2nd,that's right, I don't care what

(01:09:44):
day it is, I'm doing the prankon him.
The third joke I pulled onHannah was I went to Dunkin' Of
course I got myself a donut.
I got a maple donut and then Igot her a glazed donut, because
she loves glazed donuts, but Iate my donut.
And then I took her donut outand I put it on a plate in my
bedroom so she didn't see it.
And when we got home fromschool I was like, oh, I was out

(01:10:04):
today.
I got you a donut.
And she's like, oh, okay, and Iwas hoping she'd open it right
away.
But she didn't.
She went up to her room, shewalked around I don't know what
she did and then she finallycame down and then she opened
and she looked at me and she waslike mom and I was like April
fools.
So then the last thing that Idid is I had bought pop rocks to
throw in her water bottle.
So she's had cheer every nightthis week, practice Well, really

(01:10:27):
she's trying out for the highschool team.
And so when she was gettingready and getting the water
bottle ready, I screwed off thecap really quick, but she was
just getting her shoes on.
I didn't have very much time,so I threw a whole bunch of pop
rocks in her her water bottleand I twisted the top on again
really fast, you know.
Then she came in.
I was like, and she was likewhat is wrong with my water
bottle?
Her water bottle sounded likethere was fireworks going off

(01:10:51):
inside and I was afraid that itwas going to be too much water
for the pop rocks and theywouldn't really react.
You know, I thought maybethey'd just get submerged and
then that it would kind of fallflat I'm surprised they still
sell those things oh yeah, ohyeah, five below.
Do you guys have five below?
We do yes so I got my fivebelow and yeah, it was.
It was a very eventful day.

(01:11:12):
And then I was sad actuallywhen I was done with the last
one because it was so fun justto play all these pranks on her
all right, can I tell you someof the ones that happened around
my house.
Yes, I'd love to hear them.

Jay Franze (01:11:24):
My daughter, my 10-year-old, decided she wanted
to get in on it and she took thetoilet paper out of the
bathroom and left an empty rolland a note on it and said good
luck, Dang.
I wish I, I don't know.

Tiffany Mason (01:11:43):
Dang.
I wish I would have done that.

Jay Franze (01:11:44):
I don't know if she quite understands the concept
behind this, but I mean she's 10years old.
My wife goes.

Tiffany Mason (01:11:49):
No, she definitely got you April Fool's,
I thought that was good.

Jay Franze (01:11:54):
Yeah, I know.

Tiffany Mason (01:11:55):
She's a girl after my own heart, but then she
came home from school.

Jay Franze (01:12:00):
Yes, lucy, the 10-year-old, she came home from
school.
Previous guest by the way withone of the highest numbers of
downloads.
I think she's the third highest.
She was the second highestuntil just recently, anyway.
Is my number one you are by farnumber one from the bottom.
So she came home from school,school, and she had a test, her

(01:12:22):
math test, and she said it gotlike one right out of 10 or
whatever it was.
And she made her teacher doctorup a test, and the real one.
She got a 10 out of 10.
But she made the teacher doctorone up.

Tiffany Mason (01:12:39):
Oh man, I love her.
That's clever.

Jay Franze (01:12:41):
I said come on, that is good that she got the
teacher in on it yeah I didn'tdo much, but I called.
I called the director and Iworked for the state and I
called the director and I toldher her key staff member, her
assistant, that she relies onand we're talking.

(01:13:01):
I said man, I assume you'recalling me because you got the
email.
She goes what email?
I said I got your assistant'sresignation letter today.
I thought that's why you werecalling me and she freaked out
what do you mean?
Oh my God.
And she was all upset.
She goes you've got to bekidding me.
I said April Fools.
And then later the assistantcalls me and says oh, I heard

(01:13:27):
what you did.
That was crazy, or whatever.
She didn't say funny.
She said crazy or something.
And I said well, after she gaveme her two weeks notice, I had
to do something to get her back.
And she freaks out, she goes.
Oh my God, she did not give hertwo weeks notice.
I thought that's why you werecalling me and she was freaking

(01:13:47):
out now.
So I got them both with thesame stupid joke.

Tiffany Mason (01:13:52):
I used to like to call my mom and tell her I was
pregnant.

Jay Franze (01:13:56):
Nice, that's what I used to do too.

Tiffany Mason (01:13:58):
I used to call my mom and say, hey, mom, I'm
pregnant.
I used to do too.
I used to call my mom and say,mom, I'm pregnant.
I used to do it all the time.
It never went over well.
On Saturday we're driving downto Daytona.
Hannah has another cheercompetition with the extra team,
the bonus team, whatever.
I'm very excited, though,because the college teams are
going to be there.
The college cheerleading stuntsare so amazing.

(01:14:19):
I'm very excited, I will.
I will say, though, at the lastcompetition we went to, I
noticed that the high schoolgirls all had like two-piece
cheer uniforms, which thatsounds like duh.
They're all two pieces, butthese like show a midriff, and I
just feel like, no, can we justlike there's so much sex thrown

(01:14:41):
at these kids, can we justcover them up?
You're already wearing like aslittle as possible.
Can we just be slightly modest,like I?
Like Hannah's team wears theselittle shorts underneath.
It's not even like the like,you know, safe underwear, it's
like little shorts, and I'm like, yes, that's what they should
be wearing in middle school.

(01:15:02):
Yes, even in high school.
I don't know.
I just we don't need to oversexualize.
I feel like of course, they'reall having sex because it's
thrown in their face all thetime.

Jay Franze (01:15:14):
You want to get a mom on this rant thinking about
that.
I'm not thinking about mydaughters in high school.
I do not want to think of mydaughter having sex.

Tiffany Mason (01:15:22):
No, no, but it just, it all.
It's just.
I don't like it.
What do you have going?
Oh, oh, really quick, reallyquick.
This is a big thing.
Tomorrow, Caden's episode willbe live from Memories of the
Beach when he talked to me.

Jay Franze (01:15:38):
He's not here tonight.

Tiffany Mason (01:15:40):
Yes, he's amazing .

Jay Franze (01:15:41):
Kaden, where are you ?
Why aren't?

Tiffany Mason (01:15:43):
you here, so from the KGC show, and then tomorrow
he's interviewing me for hisshow, so it's a very exciting
day.
April 3rd is going to be moreexciting than April 1st and I'm
not sure how that happened, butit's going to be.
What do you have going on, mrFranzi?

Jay Franze (01:16:05):
Well, thank you for asking.

Tiffany Mason (01:16:08):
I thought you'd never ask.

Jay Franze (01:16:09):
I went to see Blackhawk this weekend.
It was actually a better showthan I expected.

Tiffany Mason (01:16:15):
I do feel like I know this band.

Jay Franze (01:16:17):
Blackhawk was probably big in the 90s.

Tiffany Mason (01:16:20):
Yes, okay, okay, yes they're pretty old now.

Jay Franze (01:16:23):
I would say he has to be in his late 70s.
The singer I saw them, it was asmall every once in a while the
same venue that I saw leszeppelin in oh yeah, so was that
laurie's.

Tiffany Mason (01:16:37):
No, this is a place called.

Jay Franze (01:16:39):
Ludlow Garage Is that L-shaped place Ludlow
Garage it's, I can only assume,used to be a true garage, like a
mechanic-style garage.
And it's the venue that isshaped like an L, so half of the
audience is looking this wayand half is looking from the
other way.

Tiffany Mason (01:16:58):
You can't see the other half.
It's probably a pretty coolperspective for the singer.

Jay Franze (01:17:01):
It's probably a pretty cool perspective for the
singer.
It's gotta be weird, becausethe singer is looking out at
like a corner of a wall and halfof his audience is to the right
and half of his audience is tothe left Very, very weird.
And the audience cannot seeeach other because that it's a
true wall between them, so veryodd, but it actually sounds
pretty good Must be working.

(01:17:21):
It's kind of like in a basementstyle venue.
The only thing I don't likeabout the venue.
I mean I can even I can dealwith the weird wall and all that
stuff.
That doesn't bother me.
But what I don't like is allthe seats are at the same level.
It's not a large venue but it'snot like stadium seating.

(01:17:42):
There's no real angle.
There's a little bit of anangle, but not enough.
Like when you sit there youcannot see the stage.
We sat in the back row by thefront of house, the engineer,
and we could not see withoutstanding up I mean.

Tiffany Mason (01:17:58):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you supposed
to stand up at a concert?

Jay Franze (01:18:02):
okay, let's take that a step further.
So you're standing up.
If everybody else in front ofyou is standing up, you still.
Now you're back to the point ofyou can't see true, true so I
mean it was.
It was tough, I had to do alittle bit of a bob and a weave
to see the show, but it was good.
It was still a good show.
It wasn't much of a show, asmuch as it was a listen, because

(01:18:25):
it's not like they did anything.
It was a very small stage.
They were not moving from theirportion of the stage.

Tiffany Mason (01:18:31):
So you were sitting, that's fine.
That's fine then.

Jay Franze (01:18:35):
But it was good.
They sounded good For being aband of age they sounded good.

Tiffany Mason (01:18:43):
Very nice.

Jay Franze (01:18:44):
Dalton Hicks was on the show Monday.

Tiffany Mason (01:18:46):
Ooh.

Jay Franze (01:18:48):
You blew me off for that.
I get it, but Dalton Hicks wason the show and what was really
cool about it is this was hisvery first, ever interview.

Tiffany Mason (01:18:59):
Oh, wow.

Jay Franze (01:19:00):
He's got a management team now and he's got
a management team now and he'sgot a pr for him, you know,
because his career is hitting apoint where he's about to take
off.
So he's doing very well.
But before, when he wasbuilding that attention and he
was traveling um the countryplaying shows out of a, out of a
car like three or four carswith the full band traveling
around they weren't in a busthey weren't in a van, they
weren't the full band travelingaround.

(01:19:21):
They weren't in a bus, theyweren't in a van, they were
literally traveling around intheir cars.
But the person who traveledwith him was the photographer.
It was this woman, young lady,that traveled, she was doing the
photography, but she took onthe role of, basically, road
manager, the manager at the time, manager, the manager at the

(01:19:43):
time.
Now that he has a managementteam, she's not in that role,
but she still takes on, kind oflike that, that road manager
position.
But he was talking about her andmentioned her name three times
because all of a sudden sheappeared in the chat.
So when she appeared, I wasbeing a wise ass and told her
you know, if you want to come onthe show, I'll send you the
link.
And she said if Dalton doesn'tmind, sure, so he's like no,

(01:20:08):
please.
So she came on, so she tookadvantage of jfrenzycom slash
live.

Tiffany Mason (01:20:17):
I wish more people would do that.

Jay Franze (01:20:18):
I should probably push it a little bit harder, but
anywho.
So she came on and she talkedfor a little while.
We probably went for anotherhalf hour just talking to her
and seeing her experience withhim, so it was a very good time.
That episode will be out onMonday.
All right, folks.
Well, we have done it, we havereached the top of our number

(01:20:40):
two, which does mean we havereached the end of the show
twice.
You can also reach out to bothof us over at jayfranze.
com, where we will be happy tokeep this conversation going.
We'll keep it going until fourin the morning, if you want.
That's fine with us, so pleasejoin us over there if you would.
You can also find links to allof our socials.

(01:21:02):
We would be glad to talk to youthere as well.
All right, miss Tiffany, do youhave any final words for us?

Tiffany Mason (01:21:10):
Yes, the music world is always evolving, so
stay curious and keep listening.

Jay Franze (01:21:17):
I like it.
I like what you're doing thesedays.
You are no longer fired.
Thanks like it.

Tiffany Mason (01:21:23):
I like what you're doing these days.
You are no longer fired.
Thanks.
Thanks Means, a lot Means.
I can stick around for one moreepisode.

Jay Franze (01:21:29):
Alright, folks on that note, have a good night.

Tony Scott (01:21:32):
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