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May 17, 2025 25 mins

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It’s spring in upstate New York, also known as Mud Season. In this episode, I go searching for the answers to its riddles: why Mud Season exists, what’s really happening down there in the ground, and why the ground breathes more heavily when it's stressed out – just like me.


To guide me through it all, I visit Dr. Jane Lucas, a soil ecologist at the Cary Institute of Ecosystem Studies. We talk about microbial dormancy, stressed-out soil experiments, why New York has such intense mud, and whether it’s possible to have a mud season on Mars.


It turns out one teaspoon of soil contains more microbes than there are humans on Earth. That's over 8 billion microorganisms in just one spoonful – an incomprehensibly dense and diverse ecosystem beneath our feet. Mud Season!


Guest:

Dr. Jane Lucas – Soil ecologist at the Cary Institute of Ecosystem Studies, lead researcher on the Stressed Out Soils (SOS) project


Topics Covered:

  • ​What is Mud Season, really?
  • ​Why the Hudson Valley’s soil is so soggy
  • ​What topsoil has in common with stressed-out humans
  • ​How warming, drought, antibiotics, and fungicides affect soil health
  • ​Why microbes might be your garden’s secret workforceWhy dirt isn’t dead (it’s just misunderstood)


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