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May 16, 2025 83 mins

In this episode, broadcasting live from the sweltering Eagle Pass, Texas, we dive into the latest political happenings and intriguing discussions. We start by addressing some technical issues with our video feed and the ongoing heatwave, setting the stage for a lively conversation. We revisit a fascinating interview with Charley Johnson, a chief consciousness officer, exploring the concept of consciousness in various settings. We also tease upcoming collaborations with our executive producer, Wayne, and discuss potential changes to our broadcast schedule.

The episode takes a serious turn as we delve into the controversy surrounding former FBI director James Comey's cryptic Instagram post, which many interpreted as a threat to former President Donald Trump. We discuss the implications of this post, the reactions from political figures, and the ongoing investigation by the Secret Service. The conversation expands to cover the broader political climate, including the Supreme Court's recent decision on immigration and the rising approval ratings of Donald Trump. We wrap up with a call to action for Texans to consider the future of their state within the union.

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(00:01:05) Introduction and Studio Setup

(00:03:11) Weather and Weekend Plans

(00:03:34) Discussion with Charlie Johnson on Consciousness

(00:04:42) Upcoming Show Plans and Executive Producer Wayne

(00:05:19) Recent News Highlights

(00:07:36) Audience Engagement and Show Schedule

(00:10:54) Product Recommendations and Affiliates

(00:13:51) Platform Preferences and Streaming Options

(00:16:40) News Stories and Political Commentary

(00:17:04) James Comey's Cryptic Post and Its Implications

(00:31:38) Reactions to Comey's Post

(00:39:13) Tulsi Gabbard's Interview on Assassination Culture

(00:47:05) Legal Implications for James Comey

(00:52:41) Secret Service Investigation on Comey

(00:58:37) Supreme Court Blocks Trump's Deportation Plan

(01:08:36) Call for Texas Independence

(01:16:50) Conclusion and Weekend Wishes

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- Wayne Rankin

- Rosanna Rankin

- Angela Wetuski

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Unknown (01:05):
Alright. Hey, folks.
It
is
Friday,
and we are coming to you live tonight from the
asylum studios
broadcasting from the pimple on the backside of Texas, the beautiful city of Eagle Pass,
and bringing you the best quality political talk radio we could muster

(01:28):
without all the bluster.
Welcome to the podcast.
Alright.
Love this.
You know, it's a shame though that,
for some reason on the video feed,
it kinda, I think it has like an auto duck feature, which is something that just kinda

(01:53):
lowers the volume of the music in the background
to let you hear the
voice better, the person speaking,
me.
But,
I don't know. Can't figure that out. But if you're listening on the audio feed, it sounds
perfect.
Absolutely perfect.

(02:13):
So I have already communicated
to Rumble about it, and supposedly, they're working on it, and we'll see about that.
But, folks, hey. It's Friday.
Me made it through another week,
and,
looking forward to the weekend. So I'm hoping that you guys have some great plans this weekend.

(02:34):
Wherever it is that you're listening, though, I'm I'm sure it's not as hot as
where I am here in in Eagle Pass.
Today was a hundred nine degrees,
and,
right now at, at Showtime, it was,
98
degrees
at 7PM.
And,
in the studio here, even though I've had the,

(02:57):
the AC unit running
pretty much
since
02:00 this afternoon, it is 83 degrees here in the studio.
So, not the most comfortable
environment to be in tonight.
So I'm not sure how long we're gonna go tonight.
I'm hoping not too long because

(03:17):
it is
flipping hot.
Like,
flipping hot. Like, I'm all red. You could tell. That's how warm it is in here. But,
but,
you know, we're not gonna dwell too much on that stuff. So what I'd like to do what I wanna do, though, is I wanna ask you your opinion. So so on Wednesday night,

(03:38):
we
sat down with
Charlie Johnson,
who,
is,
a chief consciousness
officer.
And, we got into a really good discussion about what exactly consciousness is
and what it isn't and,

(03:58):
the role of a consciousness officer in a corporate setting, in a political setting,
and even in a small business setting.
And it was a really interesting conversation,
and, it's something that I'm I wanna kinda explore a little bit in more detail.
So I will be talking to Charlie again on the outside of the show just to, get some, you know, more information on this and and to try to understand it a little bit better.

(04:23):
So,
I will get back to you on that, and I would like to have him back on the show at some point.
So, I'm hoping that, if you guys are interested in that, you'll let me know. You can drop a comment down below. You can shoot me an email at info@joerooz.com,
and let me know what you're thinking about that. That would really, really be interested in knowing.
And,

(04:43):
so so we got, a few more things in the works that that, anonymous Angela and I are working on.
Spoke with, our executive producer, Wayne,
yesterday.
We had a little text conversation.
Really excited for what he's gonna be doing,
up out there in Washington state.
And, so we're really looking forward to him, working alongside with us, and,

(05:06):
and he's gonna be coming on the show in, in in the coming days. We're just trying to work out a good date and a good time for him to do that. So,
keep all of that stuff in mind as the days go forward. Now today, we had a a very interesting,
day today,
in the news.
A lot of things popped off.

(05:27):
I'll start something started yesterday, something's
and and then carried over to today, and then some some other things happened right before we got to start the show tonight. So which is why we were just a few minutes late there because, I was just kinda going over a few things. And, one other thing too, I misplaced
my
my my regular glasses.
So I'm wearing another pair of glasses. This is an older prescription.

(05:51):
So,
some things are a little bit blurry right now,
but, I think if I give myself a chance to kinda, adjust to it,
we should be okay for tonight.
So, if I look like I'm a little bit blind
as I'm going over notes and and things like that,
chances are I probably am. So,

(06:11):
so just bear with us on that one, and hopefully, we find the actual glasses
sometime tonight because I don't wanna have to go through the whole weekend like this.
Alright. Now, what we'll do also tomorrow, we'll run the, Charlie Johnson,
interview show, as our Saturday spotlight.
So, you'll be able to catch it there. I mean, you could always go back into the archives and watch it anytime you want, but,

(06:35):
I like putting it out there as a as a as an extra Saturday show, for the folks unless we're gonna do a live show at some point. We might. You never know. Things happen.
As you know, we went back to the Monday, Wednesday, Friday schedule, and I'll be honest with you.
As much as I
I appreciate
that schedule,

(06:56):
I feel like I'm missing something on those Tuesdays and Thursdays.
So I I don't know. I'm gonna have to talk to, our producer our producers,
our execs, and our our producer and and see what, their thoughts in,
about that are. Should we content should we do the five nights a week? Should we not?
Maybe do a Saturday

(07:16):
live show? I don't know. We'll
we'll see. We'll we'll work something out. But all I know is that I miss hanging out with you guys, and,
and I hope the feeling's kinda mutual. I think we're we're building a little a little audience here, little as we are.
The, the the audio audience is a lot
bigger right now than the video. Well, at least the lives, the the downloads of though the plays of the videos after the shows are are really good. So really excited about that. And we're we we would love to get more folks watching live.

(07:47):
That's the whole point of doing the live show, so we can have some kind of interaction. So, hopefully, we'll we'll get there. We'll get there. And then, you never know. I might audition for, for, a spot on the Alex Jones show,
on his network. You never know. Kinda you know, we can dream.
Right? We we can dream.
Alright.
So I know we got some stuff to get through tonight. And, again, like I said, it's super hot in here, so we wanna kinda get through the show without, you know, going too long. So I'm gonna

(08:15):
pipe down on
the chitter chatter, and, let's get into some of the,
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(13:51):
Alright. Also, just to, let everybody know, that's listening on the audio stream,
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(14:15):
We have a lot of graphics, overlays, whatever you wanna call them.
And, it it's it's really it's a much different
experience,
and, I think you might like it. Plus, you get to see all the stupid little quirky
facial ticks and
movements
and squinting and all that stuff like I'm doing now. But,

(14:35):
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(15:07):
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The catch with that is is that we shut off the stream
to YouTube,
Twitch, and x
right about this point. So,
if you're not
on Rumble,
you need to get on Rumble.

(15:27):
It's a much better platform. I'm telling you. Less
less issues.
You have,
no virtually no censorship whatsoever. You know, I mean, unless you're
really saying something crazy and outlandish that, you know,
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we could turn we could turn off the Alex Jones store. Right? Okay.

(15:50):
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(16:16):
lord willing, we'll see you
Monday evening, 7PM.
Alright. We'll talk to you in a little bit. Take care now.
Alright.
So now that it is
just us
grab some coffee here.
Our seventeen seventy five rumble coffee. Fantastic,

(16:38):
fantastic coffee. Love it. Alright. Well,
we do have some ground to cover here, so let's,
let's go start getting into that. I'm gonna talk about some new stories.
Alright.
So

(16:59):
what's been going on
since yesterday.
Now, since this is a an evening podcast or show, whatever you wanna call it,
I'm pretty sure that,
you know, you you've probably seen and heard a lot about this already.
But, something really interesting took place,

(17:22):
yesterday,
and that would be
the former
FBI director,
James Comey,
made kind of a a cryptic
post on his Instagram account,
which
a lot of people have interpreted as a threat,

(17:43):
to
a sitting United States President, that being
Donald j Trump.
And, of course,
he did this while the president was out of the country,
visiting,
the, The Middle East
on a on a an incredibly
successful
incredibly

(18:03):
successful trip.
Over four days,
came back with a commit or is coming back with a commitment of over $3,000,000,000,000
in investments,
on on various levels
from these countries,
from Saudi Arabia, from Qatar,
and and others is that that it's just

(18:25):
amazing success.
The art of the deal, my friends, president Trump is a
deal maker, and,
man, has he been
working hard
to make America great again. And then you have
guys like
James Comey, who was
disgraced,

(18:47):
deep state I mean, like, one of the darlings
of the deep state,
making these
cryptic
threats.
So if you haven't seen it already,
this is the post that, Comey put up on his Instagram.

(19:09):
Alright?
And what makes it even even more odd is his comment on this.
So,
as you could see there on your screen, it says,
8647.
And then, his his comment
there says,
cool shell formation

(19:30):
on
my
cool shell formation on my beach walk.
Yeah.
Okay. Like like,
the the shells just magically put themselves into
that
formation.

(19:50):
I mean, this guy's can I think you're stupid?
Alright. So what what's the big deal? Right? $86.47.
Well,
Donald Trump is the forty seventh president of The United States.
And I'm sure growing up,
you've heard
the the term,

(20:12):
used many times
called 86.
When you 86 something,
it means you
dispose of it. You get rid of it. You kill it.
And it's a phrase I heard today, which I never knew.
It actually means something, the eight and the six, eighty six.

(20:33):
Basically, it means that,
they kill you eight miles out and they bury you six feet under. Alright? 86.
So this is a veiled threat
to Donald Trump,
the forty seventh president of The United States.
Now

(20:54):
people immediately saw this. And that that's the other thing too about about these guys like like Comey and
and and
the ilk of his kind
is that they they're they're so used to getting away with
the threats. They're so used to getting away with,
you know, being able to make these
ridiculous,

(21:15):
cryptic comments without
any repercussions
whatsoever.
So they they feel like they have impunity, and so they post things like this with impunity.
And, you know, they think that, you know, their their friends in the,
in in in in the deep state,

(21:36):
that shadow government that's out there,
are gonna defend them and come to their rescue.
Well, that might have been under the Joe Biden administration, and that might have even been under the the first Trump administration
Because, you know, the first Trump administration,
Donald Trump, you know, he's not a career politician.
And, you know, he he made some mistakes in appointments, and he made some some mistakes in keeping certain people around,

(22:03):
people like Comey. Comey was his,
was the, FBI director,
for a portion of his first term.
So
they make these posts,
And, again, like I was saying, they may have gotten away with it
under Biden. They may have gotten away with it under the first Trump administration,

(22:27):
but this is a different environment here in in in the White House, in this administration.
They're they're not taking these things lightly. They're not letting these things slip by, especially given the fact that they were you had the two,
two known assassination attempts on president Trump,
last summer,

(22:47):
right before the right before the election.
You had,
you had the the incident in Buckley, the attempt in Buckley, Pennsylvania,
and then you had the attempt at, at the golf course in Mar A Lago in Florida.
So they're not taking these things lightly,
these these these threats.

(23:10):
And the other problem with this too is is that,
you know, James Comey, he is a
known
public figure.
I I I think we could all agree with that.
And people are gonna
see these posts, and they're going to follow along.

(23:31):
Now I remember during the first Trump administration, they had,
the eighty six forty fives.
And,
I think there was even a a a t shirt that was printed. I think it was made in China
That's at 8645,
and you had a bunch of these dumbass leftists,

(23:51):
wear these things
knowing full well what it meant.
So, Marsha Blackburn
called it out
today as well.
Okay.
That should not have happened.

(24:13):
Let's,
let's fix
that. So,
Marsha Blackburn.
What do we do?
Bring that back

(24:35):
and close that.
Alright. So hopefully, you can still hear me.
So,
Marsha Blackburn tweeted out this or posted this. James Comey
is posting cryptic messages online alluding to getting rid of president Trump. Would he like to explain what he means by this given the assassination the assassination attempts

(24:58):
on president Trump? Take a look. FBI director Cash at FBI.
And there's the 8647.
Now, of course,
it wasn't just Marsha Blackburn that that came across this,

(25:18):
Christy Noem as well.
She tweeted she posted on on x,
disgraced former FBI director James Comey just called for the assassination of POTUS Trump.
DHS and Secret Service is investigating
this threat
and will respond appropriately.

(25:42):
And then, of course,
Kash Patel,
the director of the FBI,
He posted this. We are aware of the recent social media post by former FBI director James Comey directed at president Trump. We are in communication
with the Secret Service
and director Curran.

(26:02):
Primary jurisdiction is with the Secret Service on these matters, and we, the FBI,
will provide
all necessary
support.
So
this, of course, did not go unnoticed, obviously.

(26:43):
So according to, the conservative brief sorry for the long silence there. I was just looking for an article.
Comey posted this photo of what appeared to be seashells arranged to form two numbers, eighty six forty seven, which many took as a call to assassinate Trump, the forty seventh president. Eighty six is slang for a hit. In the post, he also wrote cool cool shell formation on my beach walk.

(27:09):
Later, the former FBI director fired by Trump early in his first term for malfeasance on the job posted another x.
Now this is where this is the irritating part of the whole thing.
This is a career law enforcement officer. This is somebody who served
in the highest law the highest law enforcement office in the land.

(27:30):
This is a guy who was a,
a, a prosecutor,
a federal prosecutor.
This is a guy that,
that,
investigated
organized crime,
and he takes to x and he posts
that he didn't realize

(27:52):
that some folks associate
those numbers
with
violence. Take a
look. Well, actually, the I'm sorry. This is the
this is the,
the Instagram post that he put up. He said, I posted earlier a picture
of some shells I saw today on a beach, which I assumed were a political message.

(28:16):
I didn't realize some folks associate these numbers with violence.
It never occurred to me.
But I oppose violence of any kind,
so I took the post down.
Now the the problem with that is, of course,
you were, again,

(28:37):
the director of the FBI. You prosecuted
organized crime.
You
served as the director of the highest law enforcement in the land,

(29:01):
spent spent
basically your entire life working in law enforcement, and you're telling me you never heard that? I worked in law enforcement. I even knew what that meant.
I had heard it many times, and I was just a field officer. I wasn't anything crazy.
I mean, I did some investigations work, but

(29:23):
not the level of the FBI, but
still,
I I I know what that meant. I've heard that many times in my life growing up. Just watch some just watch some old gangster movies from, like, the forties. They talk about '86 and people.
So I think that's ridiculous that he that he made the claim that he didn't know.

(29:47):
Well, Donald Trump,
took to,
Fox News,
and,
he had this to say
about, Comey and and this, this message that he put out.
K. Here we go again with the video issues.

(30:10):
Third time's a charm.
Okay. Let's
let's,
let's try this.

(30:34):
Why all of a sudden this has given me a problem today, I don't know.

(30:55):
Alright. Let's try it again here. He knew exactly what that meant. A child knows what that meant. If you're
the FBI director and you don't know what that meant, that meant
assassination.
And it says it loud and clear.
Now he wasn't very competent,
but he was competent enough to know what that meant. And

(31:18):
he did it for a reason, and he was hit so hard. Because people like me, and they like what's happening with our country. Our country's become respected again, and all this,
And he's calling for the assassination of the president. Obviously, he apologized and said he just Well, he apologized for the violence. But Look, he's a very What do you wanna see happen? What do you wanna see happen? I don't wanna take a position on it because that's gonna be up to Pam and all of the great people. But I will say this, I think it's a terrible thing.

(31:46):
And when you add his history to that,
if he had a clean history, he doesn't, he's a dirty cop. He's a dirty cop. And if he had a clean history, I could I could understand if there was a leniency.
But I'm gonna let them make that decision.
Even Donald Trump knows

(32:07):
exactly what that what that term means.
This is not something that we that you have you you can take lightly. This is not something that we just kinda,
you know, just, it he didn't mean it. He took it down. He deleted the post. It's gone.
Forget

(32:27):
about
it.
Not after there's been two attack two assassination attempts on the president's life.
Can't you you you can't just let this bypass. You can't just bypass this. This
Comey needs to be prosecuted.
Well, let me back it up. He needs to be investigated.

(32:50):
He needs to be prosecuted,
and he needs to go to jail.
No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
You have to send a message with this. This cannot be tolerated. It cannot be allowed.
You cannot
threaten the president of The United States.

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You can't send out a dog whistle like that
and say,
oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that people didn't that that people use that as a as as for violence.
That's not an excuse. That that that doesn't know.

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That's not gonna work.
Tulsi Gabbard then went on to, onto Fox News and sat down with Jesse Waters.
And this is kind of a long clip, but it's important. You need to hear it.

(33:59):
There's a lot of good information in here.
But this is Tulsi Gabbard talking with, Jesse Waters.
Tulsi Gabbard's the director of National Intelligence. Are you buying that the former FBI director didn't know what 86 Trump meant?
Absolutely not, Jesse. That that is a ridiculous and insane statement to make, certainly within this context,

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but especially coming from a guy who's the former director
of the FBI,
a guy who spent most of his career prosecuting
mobsters and gangsters,
people who know and execute other humans,
and use this exact lingo of '86.
Comey himself admitted in his follow on message that he knew that this was a political statement. Well, the only reason he knew that, Jesse, was because a little over a month ago,

(34:50):
a bunch of anti Trump, anti Elon Musk protesters
were proliferating the use of this 8647
slogan, which was a veiled call to action to murder the sitting president of The United States.
So for Comey to think that we, the American people, are so stupid as to think that he as a former FBI director, former prosecutor,

(35:12):
and someone who clearly pays attention to what's going on would believe his lie that he didn't know what this actually was calling for.
The dangerousness of this, Jesse, cannot
be underestimated.
When we have two assassination attempts on the president's life, when we have people who look to guys like Comey, who've been celebrated by MSNBC and the Democrat elite and CNN as the beacon of integrity, the law and order guy, the guy who would tell the truth

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no matter what the consequences.
This is the guy who's issuing a hit
on President Trump, the president that the American people voted for. So it's guys like Comey and others who call the president the modern day Nazi, people who are in great positions of influence, who are saying that President Trump poses an existential threat to our country. These are people who hate democracy and hate the American people because they cannot stand

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that the people overwhelmingly
chose to elect Donald Trump and send him back to the White House. So they are seeking other means
to to get their way and to try to remove him from that position.
How serious
is the administration taking this,
and what are the next steps gonna be?
We're taking this very seriously. As you mentioned, the Department of Homeland Security and specifically Sean Curran, the current

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secret service director, a man who has been willing to lay down his life
as the lead of president Trump's, secret service detail for years now.
He takes this seriously
and is leading the investigation
into this
threat.
There has to be accountability
for this. There was a Rutgers study that just came out a little over a month ago, Jesse,

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that asked respondents
their view on these calls to assassinate President Trump, and over 55%
of respondents felt that murdering President Trump would be quote unquote somewhat
justified.
This is the effect of people like James Comey doing this kind of stuff.

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This study also pointed out that there is a quote unquote assassination
culture that is starting to take over the views of what they call the extreme left. We, the American people, cannot take this lightly. Whatever your politics,
we cannot allow people to get by without being held accountable
for this kind of public call to assassinate

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the president of The United States.
Do you believe that Comey
is goading you guys to come after him
because he wants to be a political martyr? He wants to
be set up so he can say, oh, look. We were right.
Donald Trump is a dictator. They're coming after me. They're arresting me. They're interrogating me.

(37:54):
I was just using my free speech.
You know, whatever his intent, I will tell you that there is a guy in, Georgia who is issuing threats on my life
about a month ago, and he's in jail today.
He has been indicted with a crime as he should have been, and he is in jail as we speak. So whatever James Comey intent,

(38:17):
he and people like him need to be held to account
according to the law, which is something that he
claims to have given his life for and stands by the rule of law. Fantastic.
The rule of law says people like him who issued direct threats against the president of The United States, essentially issuing a call to assassinate him, must be held accountable under the law. Do you believe Comey should be in jail?

(38:41):
I do.
Any other person
with the position of influence
that he has,
people who take very seriously what
a guy of his stature, his experience, and what the propaganda media has built him up to be,
I'm very concerned for the president's life. We've already seen assassination
attempts. I'm very concerned for his life, and James Comey, in my view, should be held accountable and put behind bars for this. Director Gabbard, thank you so much.

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Now, did you hear that statistic that she put out? The one that said where she said 55%
of people surveyed
on this, on this, survey that was done,
on the left,
think it's somewhat justified
to assassinate

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president Trump,
and that there's a culture
developing
on the extreme left.
There's an assassination
culture developing
on the extreme left
where this is,
this this is

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being viewed as acceptable behavior
on the left, on the extreme left.
Alright? Now I don't wanna paint all people on the left as
this level of lunatic.
I mean, the people on the left are lunatics, but
not all of them are at this level of lunatic.

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That's a that's a terrifying
thought.
And as,
as Tulsi Gabbard said, this is not something that we can take lightly. This is not something that we,
whether whether you're in government service or you're just a civilian on the street,
should be willing to accept in our society. This is not

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this is not
appropriate behavior.
But this is the left. This is this is what they do
now. This is what they've become. They've become so extreme. They've gone so far to the left.

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And you have outlets like
MSNBC
and CNN.
Well, CNN is not so much lately. They've been
getting better.
But you have networks like MSNBC
where they they they stoke hatred

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and violence and anger.
And those are the those are the networks that that the left
follows.
I mean, follows, like, religiously
follow.

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Believe me, I know. I I I I I know people who who
have MSNBC
on on their television
twenty four seven.
There are people on the right too who, like, you know, keep Fox News on twenty four seven. Sometimes I think they're just as crazy too, but

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not for the same reasons.
Not violently crazy.
You know, everybody needs a break from the politics every now and then, so, you know, I don't I don't sit there with with the TV on all day long watching this stuff.
But the left

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is is legitimately going batshit crazy.
Oh, I know I'm gonna get slapped with an with, an explicit language now on Apple Podcast. You know, they did that, on the on the Charlie on the Charlie Johnson show we just did.
You know, he said he he he he said
a couple of s words, and, we got slapped with an e on

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on, on Apple Podcast.
But,
I don't know if you remember, Ed Martin. Ed Martin was the was was the guy that,
the that that the administration was putting forward to,
to, take over as

(43:21):
the attorney general for,
DC.
Well, the district
yeah. The attorney general. So,
but then his name was withdrawn
and, and now you have Jeanine Pirro,

(43:42):
taking over in that role.
Well, he sat down today with,
with,
Benny Johnson. Alright? And, basically, he said that, that that the former FBI director James Comey is going to prison
after he posted this assassination threat against president Trump.

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And, he also brings up a very good point.
So let's let's take a look at,
Benny Johnson and,
Ed Martin.
So it seems like what you could potentially do, because there's no doubt that in thirty years at the FBI and in federal law enforcement, that James Comey has come about this term, eight to 86 someone. It's been around for a very long time, and is very popular.

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And you see it at protests. You see it all across social media actually on the left as they grow ever violent and get back to their roots.
So it seems like what could happen is you could you could potentially
have a situation where James Comey is gonna be lying
to federal officials. He's gonna be lying to the FBI when he says, oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know what this meant.

(44:46):
There's clearly a record of James Comey knowing what this means
and that you could really there are a lot of there's a lot of very bad traps for James Comey in in this instance. Yeah. Yeah. Look. A number of them. Look. First thing that happens, he says, I didn't know that that meant that. Well, there'll probably be some people that he worked with that will testify,
you know, he knew, or there might even be a paper trail that says he used that phrase and everybody knew. But there'll also be a a a a peer a point where a jury will be asked, a a fact finder, like, shouldn't the guy know? Like, here's a record of what you're doing. It's not like he, you know, moved to the country last, you know, week from, you know, Papua New Guinea and had never been exposed to the media or the law. This is a, again, a seasoned professional,

(45:28):
who knows. And, look, he took it down so fast. He knows he made a mistake,
but, excuse me, I don't think this statute
is one that you you sort of take back. It's it's pretty clear. You post it. You do it. That may mitigate his jail sentence or something like that, but I think he's he's got a problem. And as you point out, perjury traps are next because he's gotta either lie or tell the truth. And and when he chooses that, he's either going to jail on one or he's going to jail on the other. So I I don't know what is he a drinker? I I was someone impaired because this was a colossal

(45:57):
misjudgment
by somebody who, who should've known better.
And that's the point I wanted to make as well.
No matter which way he goes,
he's caught in a lie.
He could say he didn't
know, which would be a lie,
and then or he could say he did know,

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which wouldn't necessarily be a lie, but still it would
get him convicted.
So he basically he painted himself into a corner here. Now what again, whether he did it on purpose or not, you know, like,
in the Tulsi Gabbard, interview with Jesse Waters,
you know, to to be the martyr, to to to say that, you know, the the administration's targeting him, going after him.

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I mean,
maybe.
But
Ed Martin has a great point there.
No matter which way he goes,
he's in a lot of trouble.
He's in a lot of trouble.
And I don't think that

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his deep state buddies are gonna be able to get him out of this one.
I don't think.
I've been
awfully surprised by some of the things that have been going on and
especially with the courts,
which we're gonna
come to in a little bit.

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So this is this is a very,
very, very serious
issue that is that that that's
being played out here in front of us.
This is the left.
This is the violent left. This is what they've become.
Benny Johnson said they've or they've gone back to, which is also very true.

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Organizations
like
the the the the KKK,
Democrats
Democrats, it's not the right.
Democrats voted against the civil rights amendments.

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The Democrats have always been a violent party
at the roots,
And now they're going back to that, but it's going it's but but they're getting even worse.
And then you have a guy like James Comey, again, who has a voice, who has

(48:41):
recognition, who has people that follow him,
watching,
listening,
reading his
horrible books.
He has another one coming out soon too.
It's set in New York City, and it's like
like the

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the FBI or something like that is
going after this extremist right wing group
terrorists that are trying to disrupt the city and and all that stuff.
Remember, the left will always tell you what they're doing,
but they flip it on to the other side.
But it's always what they're doing.

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Well, Benny Johnson also
sat down with,
with Mike Flynn,
general Flynn,
and
they had a they had a very interesting conversation. Here's about a minute of it.
We got whistleblowers
coming out of the woodwork and we're we're funneling it into the right,

(49:49):
governmental offices
to do the right things.
And let me tell you,
these people are busted.
And so for Jim Comey, that's what I said earlier. Jim,
you get if you get this message,
start thinking about what you're gonna what you're gonna give up because you're gonna give up some of your freedom because you're you're gonna go to jail. You you you must go to jail because of what you did. But maybe they'll cut you a little bit of a deal and they'll put you in a, you know,

(50:15):
in a in a softer in a softer prison for a shorter period of time because you you're able to, you know, to give up some some, some evidence on some of these other people who are even more deeper than you involved in this. Because, Jim, you know exactly who I'm talking about.
So there there are other investigations going on that that Comey's involved with, and that's that's I think what he's intimating there is that, you know, if if he comes forward with this this additional information, he might cut it get a deal cut with him.

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For example, The Washington Times says that, the FBI under Cash Patel is is actively tracking down former undercover operatives
who worked under Comey's direction.
A whistleblower testified that the agents were embedded at high levels within Trump's twenty sixteen campaign,
operating under the explicit directive of the former FBI director.
The revelations directly contradict

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the FBI's justification for launching the infamous crossfire hurricane investigation,
which sought to link Trump to a Russian to Russian election interference. We all remember that one. Russia, Russia, Russia. That's all you heard for for for four years. And they they still they still try to twist it and try to throw that out, especially now,
you know.
But the, the whistle the whistleblower asserted that Comey not only oversaw it, but was instrumental in the in the illegal operation avoiding standard documentation procedures

(51:33):
to prevent oversight from the justice department's inspector general, Michael Horowitz.
The whistleblower stated this, quote, the case had no no
predicated foundation, so Comey personally directed
the investigation without creating an official case file in Sentinel or in any other FBI system.
So,
obviously, somebody is somebody,

(51:56):
you know, instructed Comey
to do this,
and maybe Comey's willing to give that person up first in an exchange for
leniency.
We'll see. We'll find out. But no matter how you look at it,
he's going to jail.

(52:17):
He's gonna go to jail.
That is, of course, if he doesn't get
assigned to a
Boseberg type. Y'all remember him. Right? Boseberg?
The daily fetched

(52:38):
put this out today.
Jason Walsh, James Comey officially under Secret Service investigation for threatening Trump with code.
The Secret Service is investigating
former FBI director James Comey after his cryptic Instagram post was decoded
as a direct threat to president Donald Trump.

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It doesn't take a genius to see that the numbers along with Comey's long standing friction with Trump were much more threatening
than just a few shells on the beach. As a matter of fact, Patrick Bet David,
had a had something to say about this,
and this was his post on X today.
Patrick Beck David said, you mean to tell me as the former head of the FBI at Comey you don't know what eight eighty six forty seven means?

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You're either, one, incompetent, two, hate America, Three, finally being honest about your motives,
Four, or all of the above.
Which one do you think it is?
I think it's all of the above.
Following the backlash, Comey deleted the post and claimed that he was unaware the message was a call for political violence.

(53:51):
I just we already said what he I already told you what he said. And I posting posted earlier a picture of some shells I saw today on a beach walk, which I assume were political. Here's the other thing too. He he assumed it was a political message. Now who the heck
is gonna go to the beach,
lay out these seashells in this eighty six forty seven
message,

(54:12):
and say, oh, gee. I wonder if, James Comey is gonna walk by and take a look at this and see it and post it someplace.
Secret Service spokesperson,
Anthony Anthony
Gugliemi
said,
the secret service vigorously

(54:33):
investigates anything that can be taken as a potential threat against our protectees.
We are aware of the social media posts by former FBI director,
and
we take rhetoric like this very seriously. Beyond that, we do not comment on protective intelligence
matters.
An unnamed federal law enforcement official said the circuit service was sending agents to question Comey, adding that the visit was standard procedure for anyone posting perceived threats against the former or current president.

(55:06):
So, yeah, so he's so he's being questioned.
Now the interesting thing here too is
is that not only did did Comey delete the tweet,
the post on Instagram,
but it seems like
he also deleted his entire account.

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Gateway Pundit
said that,
some some users are reporting being able to search and view Comey's account without issue, while others get an error message
like this
that say that let's say Comey's account,
user not found or this page isn't available.

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And then some users are saying that, they're able to search and view,
and they're getting this.
So as you could see
on the left, when you search James Comey on the left here, it says you could see his name pop up with his with his picture, but the one on the right,
nothing.

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Variations of James Comey, but not the official James Comey account.
So it looks like he may have deleted the the account altogether or he hid it. I don't know. Can you do that on Instagram? I don't know.

(56:32):
But basically, what's happened is he he's gone radio silent,
dropped off
Social media, at least.
And then just as a quick update here, so Gateway Pundit's
report breaking. James Comey will be escorted by Secret Service to DC Field Office

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for an interview.
This is on,
Gateway Pundit.
This was at 04:20 this afternoon.
James Comey will be interviewed by US Secret Service on Friday afternoon at the Washington Field Office according to CNN. Comey is under investigation for calling for Trump to be killed in a cryptic Instagram post.

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So the, Secret Service reportedly interviewed
former FBI director James Comey on Friday. After that, that would be today.
After he made a controversial post on Instagram the day before that appeared to call for the assassination of president Donald Trump, Comey has since deleted the Instagram post,
which showed numbers eight six four seven etched in sand,
at a beach,
via seashells.

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Former FBI director tried to walk back the message in a follow-up post saying he was unaware of the violent rhetoric behind the numbers
despite being a former high ranking law enforcement officer. Secret Service, which has jurisdiction in the case, has not commented on its investigation so far,
but footage from CNN showed Comey leaving his suburban Virginia home for the interview held at the Secret Service's Washington field office and federal law enforcement source. A federal law enforcement source told the New York Post that the interview had in fact taken place.

(58:22):
So this is an ongoing story. This is gonna be something we're gonna be keeping an eye on as as it as it progresses
because this, you know, again, this stuff cannot be
just brushed off. This stuff cannot be tolerated. It has to be dealt with and has to be dealt with quickly.
And, you know, and I and I hope it does, and I and I hope an example is set.

(58:43):
I hope he goes to jail,
and, I hope he turns I hope I hope he turns and
and,
you know, you know, throws a few people under the bus,
takes them with them. You know? Wouldn't that be great?
Would it be great if he testified that, yes, it was, in fact, the Clintons
behind a crossfire hurricane

(59:06):
and spilled the beans on everything that he knew about it, I think that would be really interesting.
He might be suicided,
you know, but you never know. You never know.
Alright. So what else what what else do we got here tonight
to talk about? Alright.
Well, in a very disappointing

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turn of events here today,
The,
the big beautiful bill
that,
that Donald Trump was putting forward to,
for the,
for to be voted upon,
The House Budget Committee today, Friday, rejected

(59:51):
Trump's budget bill, which is a major setback to leaders of the GOP led chamber who have set a July 4 deadline for final passage.
Now the vote was sixteen
twenty one with five conservative hardliners joining all the Democrats in voting against the multitrillion dollar legislation.
GOP house members, particularly moderates versus fiscal conservatives, has wrangled key matters in the bill,

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which preserves Trump's twenty seventeen tax cuts such as changes to Medicaid
and, state and local tax deductions known as SALT.
So, kinda threw a wrench in the whole thing.
And,
you know, but it's not over yet. We'll still be able to talk this way talk this thing through. May maybe come to some kind of a better agreement. I don't know. We'll see.

(01:00:39):
What else we got?
Alright.
Let's let's do this one first.
I wanna end on a on a on a good note, on a happy note. Best before the weekend.
You know? We wanna do that. Alright. So the Supreme Court today,

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once again,
blocks
the Trump administration from immediately deporting migrants
under the Alien
Enemies Act. Supreme Court
on Friday, that would be today,
blocked Donald Trump's,
president Donald Trump from invoking the Alien Enemies Act to deport illegal migrants

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in Texas, throwing the curve ball to the administration's crackdown on illegal immigration. Supreme Court
sent the case back down to the lower appeals court to decide underlying questions in the case, including how much notice those target those targeted for removal should receive and whether the move was itself legal.
The court granted the temporary injunction for two allegedly illegal

(01:01:43):
Venezuelan migrants who were accused of being members of the violent gang Trendyaragua.
The injunction simply ensures the judiciary can decide whether these Venezuelan detainees may be lawfully removed under the Alien Enemies Act before they are in fact removed,
Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote in a separate concurring opinion.
The unsigned majority

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the unsigned majority order said
the way that the Trump administration has been using the power did not pass muster. Supreme Court justices Clarence Thomas
and Samuel Alito
dissented stating they did not have jurisdiction
and authority to impose the relief.
So
seven to two was the final vote

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on this,
on this matter.
And so
that means that,
chief justice Roberts
and Amy Coney Barrett Amy Coney Barrett
once again
sided with the Democrats
or the liberal the Liberals, the left,

(01:02:48):
justices on the bench,
as well as,
Brett Kavanaugh.
So so again,
once again,
the
conservative,
the
quote, unquote conservative keep on banging into the mic.
So the quote, unquote conservatives,

(01:03:09):
once again,
don't have the back of the president
or the American people for that matter.
I mean, this is what the American people voted for.
77,000,000
people voted
for these deportations.

(01:03:29):
There is
no reason
why
they should not be taking place.
There was no process
followed to allow these illegal aliens into the country in the first place.
They are not US citizens.

(01:03:50):
They are not
granted the protections of The United States constitution because they're

(01:04:12):
It's just disgusting.
The rogue judicial
branch.
This is what our founding generation
was so concerned about.

(01:04:33):
That's why they built these checks and balances into
the constitution.
But, apparently,
even the Supreme Court
is ignorant
at a simple reading of the constitution.

(01:04:54):
Our founders wrote the constitution so that the average person could understand it.
And these morons and I'm sorry.
I don't care how many degrees and letters you have after your name. If you can't simply read
the constitution and not understand it or not interpret it as it is written,

(01:05:14):
you're a moron.
You're an absolute moron.
Donald Trump took to truth social, and,
he basically
lit up
the Supreme Court.

(01:05:35):
And he posted this.
The Supreme Court
has just ruled that the worst murderers,
drug dealers, gang members,
and even those who are mentally insane who came into our country illegally are not are not allowed to be forced out without going through a long protracted
and expensive legal process, one that will take

(01:05:56):
possibly many years
for each person, and one that will allow
these people to commit many crimes before they even see the inside of a courthouse. The result of this decision will let more criminals pour into our country,
doing great harm to our cherished American public.
It will also encourage other criminals to illegally enter our country, wreaking havoc and bedlam wherever they go. The Supreme Court of the United States is not allowing me to do what I was elected to do. Sleepy Joe Biden allowed millions of criminal aliens to come into our country without any process. But in order to get them out,

(01:06:32):
we have to go through a long and extended process.
In any event, thank you, justice Alito, justice Thomas, for attempting
to protect our country. This is a bad and dangerous day
for
America.
Amen to that.
Amen to that.
Terrible.

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Absolutely
terrible.
And you see, things like this,
and again, it is I know I don't talk about it often, and I should. I talk I should talk about it a lot more than what I do. But you see, it's it's decisions and rulings like this

(01:07:21):
that just fuel the fire
of separation from this country,
from The United States.
A ruling like this should motivate
every single Texan

(01:07:48):
To insist
that it be brought to a vote
for Texan
for Texas
to happen now
because it is obvious that the government,

(01:08:11):
through the judiciary
at this point,
not
I think Donald Trump is doing everything he possibly can
to alleviate the problem with illegal crossings,
but
the judiciary is holding it back
for partisan issues, for partisan purposes.

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Why does the left have such a love affair with with illegals?
Why?
I I
I I I I honestly, I don't understand why,
but they do.
But they do.
And again,

(01:08:57):
it should make
us
here in Texas
go for
this, Texas independence.
Not through violence, not through anything like that. I'm talking about legislatively through the legislative process.

(01:09:20):
Get Texit on the ballot.
Let Texans
vote
whether or not they wanna stay
in this abusive,
out of control
federal system, this American Union that is not working anymore.

(01:09:45):
Things like this should motivate you as a Texan
to stand up and say it's enough.
It's time to move on. It's time for us to once again

(01:10:06):
become a free and independent nation.
That's what it that's it
I don't I don't see any other options anymore.
There's there there really is no other option.

(01:10:28):
If you think about that, there really isn't any.
This union is broken.
You have a rogue judiciary
that's overriding the executive branch doing the executive branch's job.
You have a legislative branch that does absolutely nothing.

(01:10:51):
You have right now, you have
the house,
you have the senate,
and you have the White House,
and there have been less
bills
sent to the president's desk to sign into law
than there have been in seventy years.

(01:11:14):
And listen. I am not saying that the Texas legislature
is is any better. The Texas legislator left over 30 bills
that are key and core to to to to the to the to the to the Republican GOP
on the table

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with no voting, no action. You have the Republican speaker of the Texas House
appointing
Democrats
even though
the Republican Party of Texas won the majority.
You have the Republican speaker of the Texas House appointing
Democrats to committee chairs.

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No rationale given.
And when real conservatives stand up to question it,
parliamentary,
they're told is not parliamentary question. They can't ask the question. They can't proceed with their discussion.

(01:12:34):
It's time for Texas, though.
It's time for Texas to leave this union.
And, folks, we have to put it out there. We have to get
it on the ballot. The Texas nationalist movement is working
incredibly hard to that.

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Almost 700,000
members
across the entire state
are working to make Texas
free again,
to make Texas independent,

(01:13:16):
to give every Texan a country of their own.
And if it doesn't happen,
I think it will.

(01:13:39):
I'm hoping it happens in my lifetime. I'm hoping it happens
now.
But if we don't do it now,

(01:14:01):
I don't know if we're gonna be able to do it later
because the authoritarian
government
will take over.
You did not see the the judicial branch of the government
interfere with the Biden administration

(01:14:22):
bringing
millions of illegals into this country.
There was not one injunction,
not one hold, not one stop
while this country was invaded through,
mostly through, the Texas border.

(01:14:47):
And the federal government did everything in their power to make sure that the state could not secure the border.
I don't live far from it.
I remember it vividly.

(01:15:12):
Texans, you need to get involved.
If throwing the doors open on the border wasn't enough for you to get going, then the judicial branch
usurping the authority of
the
executive
branch

(01:15:32):
should get you going,
because they wanna keep that flow
pouring into this country
because they don't give a crap about you.
They don't care about me.

(01:15:54):
To them,
the illegals
are more important.
Why is that?
Should be pretty obvious
because those illegals will be more dependent upon them
and will do whatever it is that they tell them to do.

(01:16:23):
They will vote for them.
The Legos don't vote.
Yes. They do.
If you pay attention to the news, you pay attention to Doge,
they do.
And that's what they want.

(01:16:50):
Alright. I kinda
went off on a little tangent there. So,
let's, let's wrap this up with
with,
some
good news.
CNN,
once again, has put out a wonderful little little piece here.

(01:17:22):
If I can find it,
what happened to it? I had it.
We,
let me pull this up really quick.
So if I can. So CNN
nope. I can't. Okay. So we'll we'll have to screen share this one.

(01:17:46):
So CNN,
once again, with its polls,
basically says Harry Anton says that
Donald Trump has some pretty good political instincts.
Why? Because Donald Trump's approval ratings are rising.

(01:18:09):
Let's take a look here.
Yeah. I think it's time for a bit of a reality check. Right? We were going to late April. Donald Trump's approval rating. His net approval seemed to be falling. He seemed to be adios amigos. People were writing his political obituary. He is rising from the dead. Look at this. Hello. Trump's net approval rating among voters. This is the Reuters Ipsos polling. Look at this. In late April, he was eight points underwater. But look at where he was in the most recent poll among voters. He's up seven points to a minus one point net favorability

(01:18:38):
rating. This is not the picture that I think a lot of people were thinking that we would be painting in late April. I think a lot of people expected his approval rate to keep dropping, but at least according to Reuters' zip sauce, it's in fact Alright. Rising. Put this then
in a larger
perspective, Harry. Yeah. Okay. So, you know, this is just one poll. Right? But let's take a look across an aggregate of polls. What are we seeing here? And I wanna compare both to where Donald Trump is now versus where he was in late April as well as where he was at this point in term number one. What you see is minus six points. He is a little bit worse off than he is in the IpsosReuters polling, but he is considerably better than he was in late April when he was nine points underwater. And more than that, look at this. He's nearly 10 points better than he was back in

(01:19:21):
May sixteenth of twenty seventeen in his first term. So we see as Donald Trump's not just doing better than he was doing in late April of twenty twenty five, he's doing considerably better than he was doing at this point in term number one, about 10 points better than he was doing at this point in term number one. A vacuum minus six isn't good, but in Trumpian terms, you know, against himself, it's actually a pretty good position for him to be in politically compared to himself. Exactly right. This is considerably higher than he has traditionally been. So so the big question here is why, Harry? Why,

(01:19:49):
you know, why you'd bottom out? Why might it be rising? Okay. Why? Well, take a look at the chance of a recession.
It's actually falling. The chance of recession is falling. In late April, it was 60% according to JPMorgan. Look at where it is now. It's less than 50%. How about Goldman Sachs? You see the same thing. 45%
now falling to 35%.
The bottom line is it is the economy, the economy, the economy. As the chance of a recession has fallen, as the trade wars have kind of collapsed a little bit, at least with China, Trump trying to make a deal, we do see that I do think that the voters are responding to this, and therefore, we're seeing Trump's approval rating going on. The tariffs were really hurting him, and he backed off, and it may be helping him politically now.

(01:20:30):
Sometimes, Donald Trump has some pretty good political instincts. Harry Ann, thank you very much. Okay. Well, this is where I'm gonna disagree.
The tariffs
Donald Trump used the tariffs
as
a bargaining tool.
I think it all went according to the plan.

(01:20:52):
It it went and and I and I hate using that phrase,
but that that's really what it was. I think Donald Trump did exactly what he was what what he was intending to do with the tariffs.
He was getting
these other countries to the negotiating table to work out the better deal. I don't think there's an issue there.

(01:21:13):
I think I think they were great. So,
yeah, I agree. Donald Trump does have some pretty good political,
political skills
or political instincts.
But without a doubt,
the,
the tariffs weren't hurting him.

(01:21:35):
And even if they were,
the risk paid off.
And that's great news for the country.
That's fantastic news for the country.
And with that,

(01:21:56):
we're gonna say have a great weekend.
What do you think?
Sound good?
Sounds good to me.
Alright, folks.
So
have a great weekend.
Shout outs to our executive producers, Wayne and Rosanna Rankin. Thank you for so much for what you do. Shout out to anonymous Angela, our producer. Again, thank you so much for what you do. Folks, don't forget, we'll be be back here Monday night, 7PM central time. Don't forget to check out the Saturday

(01:22:24):
spotlight show tomorrow, which will be a replay of Charlie Johnson's show. And, folks, thank you again for being here with us this week. Thank you for watching and sticking with us despite the little technical hiccups.
Alright, folks. Have a great night. Have a great weekend. God bless you, and we'll see you Monday.
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