From Nature's Beauty to Crypto Insights. Guests: Pat Mingarelli & Crypto Psychic Marisa Lee (Ep. 114)

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Alright. Well,
I guess before we get into the guests,
there is something I just I would like to
address.
And, you know, with yesterday's show, we didn't quite get the opportunity to do that.
But I wanted to do it today because I've been watching the news throughout the course of the day,
getting, getting together for show prep,

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doing some research.
But tonight, I wanna start this whole thing off on a bit of a somber note.
Here in Texas, our hearts are heavy
with the weight of the tragedy that that that has struck
the beautiful state of Texas.

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This past weekend,
catastrophic
flooding
took
the state by surprise.
This catastrophic
flooding ravaged Central Texas, particularly in Kerr County,
which is a beautiful place, by the way,
where the Guadalupe River turned from a source of beauty

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into a force of devastation. As of today, the official death toll stands at over one hundred
souls
lost with eighty four confirmed in Kerr County alone, including
heart wrenchingly
bad enough, 28 children.

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Now among them, of course, we mourn the loss of campers,
counselors
from Camp Mystic, a place that was
meant for joy and growth,
that has raised generations
of Texans
from all across the state,

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11 individuals, including 10 young girls and one counselor remain unaccounted for, and our prayers
are with their families as they endure
this unbearable
uncertainty.
But folks, this is a time for Texas to come together,
to grieve as one,
and to honor the lives lost.

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But there is something that's been troubling me through this whole thing as I'm as I'm watching all these news, stories, and I'm I'm watching across whether it's
whether it it was,
conservative news broadcast or whether it was,
or whether it was,

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the the liberal the left leaning
broadcasts
something very, very troubling,
something that absolutely cuts against the very spirit
of not only Texas,
but Americans.

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There are those on the political left,
a vocal few,
who have chosen this particular moment to exploit the tragedy
for their own agendas. They have pointed fingers,
blaming president Trump,
blaming budget cuts,
and even climate change,

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with some actually going
so far as to celebrate or politicize the loss of life.
Former Washington governor Jay Inslee,
for example, used this particular moment to push a narrative about
green energy.

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Green energy.
Well, while others like California state senator Scott Wiener have spread
claims about the National Weather Service
that meteorologists themselves have debunked.
Folks, this is not just misguided.
This is absolutely embarrassing. This is shameful.
To dance on the graves of children,

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to dance on the graves of families,
to turn a natural disaster into a political weapon is a betrayal of everything
that we stand for as Texans
and as Americans.
We don't point fingers in a crisis, we lend hands.
We don't sow division,
we build bridges.

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And a shame on those,
shame on those who do otherwise.
And you know I'm not a native Texan, I I
I moved here about ten years ago, but let me tell you something about the Texas that I've I've I I know,
that I've learned,

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that I've that I've grown to love.
The Texas that I see
rising from this tragedy.
Our first responders over a thousand strong have been absolutely
relentless.
From Kerrville to Comal County,
they've gone through and waded through mud, debris,

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treacherous waters,
using boats and helicopters and drones,
and even their bare hands
to search for those survivors and recover those we've lost.
You have heroes like Scott Ruskin of the coast guard who who helped to rescue over a 165
people.

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And you have volunteers like Samuel Cummings,
cutting through thickets to to find remnants of hope.
People like this embody the unbreakable spirit
of the people of Texas.
The Red Cross has set up, reunification centers.
Organizations like the Houston Texans,
Dallas Cowboys have each pledged $500,000

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to recovery efforts.
This is Texas
at its core.
Neighbors helping neighbors.
Strangers becoming families.
President Trump,
this current administration has stood with us
swiftly signing
major disaster declaration for Kirk County, which of course unlocked federal resources through FEMA, the support of first responders, and and and those that are in need.

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He promised actually to to, visit this coming Friday not to grandstand,
not to hog up cameras,
not to make a political statement, but to stand shoulder to shoulder with Texans saying, we're gonna take care of them.
And not only that, but ensuring that help is on the way.

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His administration,
through homeland security secretary, Kristi Noem,
is coordinated with with governor Abbott,
who vowed to search
for every missing person until the job is done.
Folks, that's leadership.
That's not an act.

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That's leadership.
That's not pointing fingers.
Now as we move forward here,
we have to hold fast to hope.
You know, Texas has faced floods,

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hurricanes,
tornadoes,
hardships
all around,
and Texas has always come through stronger.
The road that's ahead is long.
Debris still chokes the rivers,
and, more rain is on the way.

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In fact,
right here where we are in Southwest Texas, we have a, a flash flood warning in effect.
But despite all the damage, despite all the loss, we will rebuild.
We will honor
the memory of those that we've lost by coming together and not tearing each other apart.

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So tonight,
what I'm gonna ask you to do
is to please pray for the families.
Thank our rescuers,
and commit to being the light in this darkness.

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That's Texas.
Unbroken,
unbowed,
and full of heart,
and a solid resolve.
Let's get to it.
Alright. On with the rest of the show at this point.

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We are are going to bring in our guest,
and I think let me check with him right now because I saw thought I saw a text
from him that we're having problems with the audio.
I don't know. Pat, if you can hear me,

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you might have to,
adjust your settings on your computer there. You may have to refresh it.
Let me,
I see him in the waiting room. Let me see if I can shoot him a text here.
And we'll see when he comes in. Again, I just wanna thank Rumble for the quality product that they're putting out here.

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And yes, I am saying that as a
shareholder
in Rumble.
Let's see if he got that.

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Let's see.
Alright. We're doing tech support on the air here. Alright?
Alright. We're waiting. We're waiting for you, bud. So whenever you're ready, just pop on in.

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And, of course, do you have the typical signal degradation?
And let's see. Oh, I'm getting all these texts from from from, former guest, Eddie Ravenscar, if you remember Eddie
from, the Creepy Coffees podcast. By the way, we're actually using his cup tonight.

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You just sent a text, and they're doing the show, brother.
See if I can get this going here. And I see Pat just checked back in. I I gotcha.

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Alright.
Alright.
Outstanding. Let me get you off my phone so I don't,
so I was I was
listening on my phone because I was hearing you I weapons. I can't hear them. So I'm like, I'll put on the phone
so I could
so I could figure out where you were if you were trying to talk if you were still talking about the flood and that and what's going on there. So but here I am, and here we are. Outstanding. And, let's see. So,

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again, I apologize. I don't know what is going on here with the, with Rumble. They're they're just been it's been so buggy lately, and I've I don't I I think I have probably, like, 30 tickets in with them with with all kinds of stuff. And it's it's sad to say because I I I love Rumble. I love what it stands for, and I am a shareholder
in rumble. I own stock in rumble. So, you know, I mean, come on guys. Let's get with it. Let's let's get this thing straightened out and fixed. But, while, let's let's do this. Let me let me actually introduce you proper. Okay?

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Okay. Alright. Well Sounds great. Well, folks, this is, this is Pat Mingarelli, and tonight's guest, he brings a blend of creativity, peace, and faith
through the lens of the camera.
Pat is a professional photographer whose work spans photojournalism,
sports architecture, and most meaningfully, nature.
But beyond the art is a deeper calling.

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Pat connects with with God through photography.
He slows down, escapes distraction, finds sacred conversation in creation itself.
He's also the author of a of a book called Drawing Near, Meeting God in His Creation, and the creator of an online course that is designed to help others do the same. In a noisy world

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that constantly pulls away pulls us away from beauty,
Pat invites us to pause,
pay attention,
and experience God through what he made.
So, folks, the Joe Russo welcomes Pat Mingarelli. How you doing, brother? Good to see you. Good. Yeah. It's good to connect after,
this disaster. The call. It's good to see you. Good to good to see you after hearing you on your podcast for several episodes in that? I appreciate that. Thank you. That means a lot. You know, I I I find that that not very many not very many guests actually listen to the podcast before they get on there. They have no idea what they're walking into.

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I always wanna know, you know, about the the the who I'm listening to and what the content is and just to
to to enjoy what you offer. You know? So Right. I appreciate that. Good.
I do. And I'm trying to turn I'm trying to turn your gain up a little bit because you're a little low on my side.
But Okay. I gotcha. Do you want me to adjust my ears here a little bit? Or it's it would be your mic. You have to turn the mic up a little bit.

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The gain on your mic. I wonder
if I can do that. I will check my
system settings here.
That's alright.
Let's see. You should be alright though. Okay.
So let's see. Yeah. So, you know, I I I think we we were chatting a little bit in in on the, on the message board there.

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But, you know, I I I like you, I am a I'm a I'm a blood bought born again King James bible believing Christian.
And,
you know Great. And I and that's one of the things that attracted me when when when your where your profile came up is, you know, and I've noticed too that that, you know, since I since I started doing the the Sunday show, where I'm doing a bible study on Sundays, I I I I've noticed that I'm getting a lot more,

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faith based
interest in my show, which is which is wild because I wasn't intending that. I was tending more to stick towards, you know, political
analysis and commentary and and all that mess.
But, but this is great. You know, I I I've done podcasts for a while. I've I've done,
the previous podcast to this one I did, for three years. And all it was was Bible study. I did a Thursday night Bible study and a Sunday show.

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So I just needed to kinda switch tax a little bit there and do something different. But, I know we lost a lot of time with all of the, all of the the problems with the with the setup here. So let's what let's just jump right on into this. The first question I always like to ask everybody that comes on the show is what
is something that most people don't know about you but should know about you?

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Okay. And because I've listened, I knew it was coming. Oh, yeah.
I didn't get you off guard about it. Prepped. What could I say?
Prep.
You know, there's a lot of things probably I could've said, but I I I love the outdoors. I love being in the outdoors. I love connecting with God in the outdoors and just hiking and going with my family or going with friends. And my son's in

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a something called Trail Life USA Scouts, which is Christian scouting organization. I've taken trips with them and been a lot of camping with them. But the closet thing is I like video games. So that's
people probably, what?
Yeah. I I I I cannot deny that. I I every now and then, I like
to peruse the Play Store on my phone and try to find something that I haven't tried before and sit there and just lose lose myself for a little bit. But, but that's great. That that's that's perfect. Addicting too. When you got your game, you're like, it's just like, I can't stop. Since I was a kid, you know, I started playing on Atari, you know. People remember what Atari was. I remember that what was it was it Pong? That that was that it was that one game system. Actually started pre Atari with Pong. Yeah. Yeah. That oh, and for the for for those of you who don't know what we're talking about, Google it. Alright? But but basically what Pong is is is, it was a black screen with a line in the middle, and you had two little rectangles on either side, and these little dials that you had to turn to bounce this little thing across. It was crazy.

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But, you know, when you look back at it now, it was so stupid. It was so silly. But you had hours and hours of entertainment on that. So And now I now my son has a VR, and I say, alright, I'm playing VR. And I play football in the VR, so it's come a long way. You know,
shame ashamed to admit this. I have not tried VR yet. So
It's pretty cool. Yeah. Total immersion? Yeah.

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Yeah. Total immersion and
and gets addicted.
That's cool.
Well, Well, let me ask you that. So so at some point, photography really became more than art for you. It became spiritual. And so so when did when did you actually realize that that you were connecting with God through the camera?
You know,
I

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I was
first doing working with a magazine. Well, I started with a newspaper, worked with a magazine, and that magazine was part of a Christian organization. And I had,
bunch of I was in my twenties. I had some other single
friends, guy friends in their twenties, and we started
hiking and backpacking together.
And I started taking pictures of the outdoors and more and more doing that, and then even on my own. And then I decided to do more freelance work with that. I didn't even realize it, but I was

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connecting with God.
And I and I was conscious of it, but I didn't realize it was a thing, you know, that I was so I was conscious in my spirit that I was having conversation with God, but it wasn't like,
hey, this is photography doing it. And it wasn't up until a couple years ago that I realized, you know what?
I am really using photography

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to connect with God and draw near to him.
And it was just kind of like a,
a wow moment that I've been doing this for so long yet it wasn't something that I was thinking I was doing. I it was just
something I was doing before I realized, hey, I'm doing this.
And
and then I thought

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after
becoming more intentional about it, I thought, you know, I could help other people
get conscious about this because people love photography. They love nature photography
And, you know, a lot of Christians are into it. And but, you know,
maybe they're not
using it to really put God first

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and connect with God and not just get pictures.
Now,
and that's that's really interesting too because I because you do see the the hand of God throughout nature. I mean,
where I am here in Texas, I and I say this all the time to people, you have never seen
a sky until you've seen the Texas sky.

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You know, Texas skies are, I mean, some of the most beautiful colors you've ever seen in your life.
And I I born and raised in New York. I grew up in New York. You know, I, you know, you look up and know, you don't really see too much or never or at least you never noticed it so much. But once I moved here, man, I I was blown away by that. And and one of the things that always just kinda, you know, went through my mind when I was when I would look out my back door and I would see that beautiful sunset across across the desert behind me

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is
the Bible says that all of this
is just the finger work of God.
Yeah. Just the finger work of God.
And,
I think the Bible actually talks a lot about,
about connecting with God through nature.
And,
what do you what do you feel about? What do you think about that? Do you think that it is possible for us to connect with God through nature and and, you know, what like,

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I guess I guess that's the question. Yeah. Well, to look at what the Bible says. What does the Bible say? Mhmm. Well, if we're if we wanna look at the Bible, we wanna, you know, what happens what does Jesus show us? You know? Because, you know, the Bible is all about Jesus. Right.
And, you know,
the Lord coming to earth and living in it among us. But what people don't know,

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or realize in the Bible really never paid attention to, that over a dozen times,
the
gospel writers mentions
Jesus went to the wilderness. Mhmm. I mean, we know about the big story with the
confrontation with Satan
in the wilderness. Right. But that that's in two gospels
and in

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or I think maybe it's three, but it's not now four. But anyways, that's just one area. But,
you know, Mark mentions Jesus got up early and went to a lonely spot to pray. Mark,
there's verses that say that Jesus went to the mountain alone
to pray. Mhmm.
Luke five sixteen says that Jesus often, and uses the word often, went to the wilderness

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to pray and to meet with his father.
And if the the
and most of these verses are just really short, like, in in Mark chapter six, I like to point out to people that it happened,
like, three or four times in Mark chapter six.
And they're just little verses, yet Mark chapter six is I won't I won't go into all the stories in it right now, but it's filled with a lot of stories we know, like the feeding of the 5,000 is one of them. And it and in there,

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there's these little blurbs, but no one ever talks about them.
And and those little lines, those little verses, Jesus went to the wilderness, Jesus went to are just are just mentioned and overlooked.
You know, pastors don't teach on them. But the gospel writers, you know, Matthew, Mark,
Luke, John,
thought enough to put those in there. Why?

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And Jesus did it.
Why? Because it was a place to get away That's right. To meet
with God
and to get away from all the noise. Now Jesus didn't have as much noise as we have today. We have a lot of noise.
Ridiculous amount of noise. Yeah. And
he got away.

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And we should do the same. Now he had maybe more people wanting to see him, and he got away. He knew he he needed to find his strength, but, you know, we got all everything distracting us from all sorts of things. But to get into the wilderness, you know, Jesus gives us that precedent. But then if we even look at other people,
Moses encountered God in the wilderness. Jacob
encountered God in the wilderness.

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David, how many times he writes about the counting encountering God in the wilderness. Abraham looked up. God used the stars
to speak to him. That's right. And
so all that is there. So there's all that precedence.
And,
yeah. So it's there for us.
So
So, so the modern world, you know, we talk about noise. Right?

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Yeah.
Full of distractions.
I mean, even even sitting here, you know, having dialogue about the Lord, about the word of God, about
his work in nature, you got
the the phone is is lighting up in front of me here because, you know, you know, people checking in. What happened to the show? Where's the show go? What's going on? You know? Yeah. I'm sure they were. Now just refresh. Like me. Yeah. Just refresh. That's all. Yeah. Just refresh.

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And then, you know, and then, you know, just all the stuff that goes on around us each and every day is so distracting and can take us away from
that sweet quiet time of prayer, that time of fellowship that we have with God. I think it's so important for us as believers to,
no matter what is going on, carve out that time
where you can separate yourself

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from everybody.
One of the blessings that I have is I have access to a ranch
out here, and
do you wanna talk about a quiet place?
It's it's like you go out there and
it is just
a silence.
Just a flat, steady silence.
And I would go out there with my bible. I'd have my I think my pistol's with me too. I do some target shooting, but, you know,

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but I I sit out there with my bible, and I would sit there and just I would just I read, I'd study, I'd I'd just just pray, just talk to the Lord. And,
you know, it that to me, that that's such such a huge blessing to be able to be able
to do that.
Not not
many folks have that
ability to do that.
So I kinda like going, you know.

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Yeah. I get that. It's great to be able to do that. But you need to do that. It it is so important. It is so important. So what do you think are some of the common things that really keep us from truly connecting with God?
You know, there are there are a lot of things. Some of them are good,
some of them are not so good. I mean, I I could think of, you know, the easy, the the bad ones, like, you know, just your phone. How not, you know, not I'm not speaking about, you know, how you just brought it up, but all day long. You know? We could get a so many people have so many notifications on for this this app and this app, and I I personally try to limit that to to what could be,

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you know, a needful conversation like a text, someone who wants to get a hold of me from a text or,
those kind of things. Or when I'm
working my day job, there's we might get text for that or something. So but but there's so much other stuff. And then there's email. We I go into my email and there's less like, oh my gosh. I got two dozen emails today. About two of them are needed. But all those other ones are there. And then there's the other social media that we could go on, whatever social media we like to go on. And that can distract us. And those are those could be pretty, like,

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you know, what's the what's the purpose? What's, you know, they could be something, those kind of things. And just the computer and all that, those are all sorts of distractions. But then there aren't even good things that can distract us Sure. From connecting with God.
Anytime we have a relationship,
that relationship that we have with, you know, whether it's with our spouse, or with our children, or with a friend. You know, those are meaningful deep relationships, but by the nature of human relationships, sometimes they're gonna come, whether it's for good or for bad, they're gonna come,

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you know? And that can keep us from God.
So there's a there's a lot of things out there that could keep us from God, to keep us from getting in a way, which is why I like the nature photography because it just
I get away from all that stuff. All that's
getting around and I and I could just
walk in the woods with a camera, but then that provides a little way of extra connection in getting away from those

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distractions. Mhmm. Absolutely.
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That's done. Bills paid. On to the next. What I really wanna get into,
because, again, I'm I'm jumping ahead a little bit. I had a bunch of questions about spirituality that I wanted to get into, but because of all the technical, you know, problems we had earlier and,

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you know, I I really wanted to get to your book. Really wanted to ask you about your book. Great. So,
Drawing Near, Meeting God and His Creation.
What inspired that? And when someone takes that picks that book up, what can they expect?
What inspired it is
I,
I have a website called the, what, the visual bible verse of the day.

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And you can get to it by just going to the creationspeaks.com.
And that is a,
a photo I've taken of God's creation and a Bible verse about nature and then some short quick devotional thoughts to help people kinda
get started in their day and to be encouraged and inspired in their walk with with God. Mhmm. But I wanted to do something a little more.

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That that goes out on the Internet and people see it and people and it's
I I really
wanna get into the depth of the word of God,
and and versus the day don't really do that, which is why I kinda started adding
a devotional to mine Yeah. Versus the day. But it's only two or three paragraphs. Sometimes it's the only one. It's it's quick for people just

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to read. So the the the devotional was to was for something more. So to go deeper, first, I have a little section called in the word, which is the bible verse, and I have a and I always have a photo for each devotion in the book. And so then I get into the word, and then I discuss the context. Mhmm. So my next section is the word, the context. And I'll give

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two, three paragraphs
of the context of what that
that verse is about. Because I I
I believe that people need to really
learn God's word and get into the depth of it,
instead of just,
you know, maybe not knowing about it much. And then next is
in nature. So I kinda connect the two and how how

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nature relates. It could be how nature tells us about God in a certain way or just kinda draw an an analogy. And then finally, I say in us in there. So I kinda relate make it personal.
Tie the first three sections together,
to make it personal, to bring it home, to bring it to the heart. And then I have a final,

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a final bit, which is just in prayer so people can pray. So the the big inspiration was I wanted to do something more.
And
yeah. So
that book is my website
made
made longer.
So what could people benefit from reading your book?

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They can benefit
the book is an avenue for people
to get away from the noise
and to meet with God in a secluded place
to draw an air to him. So could
it help people better connect with God,
better know God's word,
better see that,

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there's more in the Bible
about creation than you just read in the book of Genesis. Oh, for sure. And and what the Bible tells us about creation in those verses
actually tells us a lot about God.
And so
you can get that out of my devotional as well.

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That's great. And and of course, the the goal is is that people would take in the word of God, study it, apply it to their everyday life,
and, and and hopefully, it would bring about some type of a transformation. So what kind of transformations would you hope that they would experience by getting into this?
Through that book and through,

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my ministry about drawing near to God just through nature photography,
my
transformation
that I would want people to get
is that
a better connection with God
and what that leads to.
Greater peace
and greater contentment
and greater rest.
An avenue away from the distractions, the things that overwhelm us and stress us, you know, and find that peace in God because in in God is peace. Alright. Amen to that. I I I could totally I totally agree with you on that one. Now you also mentioned that you had an online course. Right?

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So what's that all about? And,
who would you recommend
Who do you think would be the best candidate for that course?
So the course is
about
comes out of my own experiences
of,
of connecting with God in nature
and
through photography.

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And because I have found such peace and contentment and things like that,
and
some of my best times with God are with my camera
in nature
Mhmm. Sitting there photographing something.
And so I wanna transfer that to other people
and they can learn from my experiences

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and
and connect have a bit of a deeper,
greater connection with God themselves,
finding greater peace,
greater purpose,
and that they could better leave those distractions
and connect with God. And photography is a great vehicle to do that because

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it,
it allows us to become focused.
You know, our when we look at something, whatever we photograph and we study it,
you know, allows us to focus and we could connect with our creator
as we photograph this creation.
Mhmm. And so the avenue of the the goal of the course is to to find that greater connection with God and again, that greater peace.

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And who is it for?
It's for,
really, it's for people who enjoy taking pictures. Mhmm. And it doesn't matter if that's with their
their phone or with their high end camera, because I like taking pictures with both. Yeah. And I do and I do both too, because I had you know, the phones are
convenient. But it's so it's it's so it's not about the camera, but it's about people who like to take pictures,

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and also wanna deepen their relationship with God. Yeah. So that's who the course is for. Well, that's great. I you know, and and talk about the phones and the cameras and and such. I mean, even today though, the the average cell phone now has a quality camera that's that rivals some of the best on the market now. So you can get those great shots, and everything's all built into the phone now. So you can do your editing, you can do all your stuff with with that. Yeah. So it's it's it's a great it's a great tool to have. I, I I love taking pictures. I I always did. I have,

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I have folders on my phone that have just so much, or on my computer rather, that are just, you know, just all natural photos. I'd I'd loved doing it for and I did it as often as I possibly could. Haven't had much time lately to do it, but I've I've you know, in in talking to you about this, it's kinda, you know, kinda spurred the interest to try to Yeah. Get get in touch with that again.

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And and another thing I do, and I should add this about, I always talk about the spiritual
part of that because that's kinda where my heart is,
but it also talks about how to get better pictures. Yeah. I have been I started teaching photography
in 02/2006,
so that's almost twenty years ago. So I have a lot of teaching of

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photography, and I've been taking pictures longer than that. So I I also help people. Besides connecting with God, it's also, hey. How do I get better pictures? And I interweave
that throughout, and then I have a few,
lessons in there that I just about how to get better pictures. And then I inter interweave the spiritual on that too. So That's beautiful.

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Yeah. So it's both.
Alright. So if you could speak if you could speak one sentence into the, minds of everybody that's listening, the tens of people that are listening right now,
and you think it would stick, what would that be?
What would it be?
I would say,
you know,
get outside.

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And and if you can take a camera with you and connect with God.
When we leave
I'm going more than one sentence. Aren't I? No. You're good. We
when we step into the outdoors,
we leave the man made world and step into the God made world.
And that's a transformation.
It's huge. That's great. And that's that's that's a good one. That's worth more than one sentence. That's good. Perfect.

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Alright. So our, our next guest is is, has been waiting, for a few minutes already. So we're gonna we're gonna switch on over, that way in just a moment. Okay. But, so where can we go get your book? Where can we find out more information about you? And, if you could, if well, I your information should be on on PodMesh, so I'd be able to pull it off from there. But if there's another website or something you have, just make sure you text that to me so I can put that in the show notes. Okay. Just put that in there. Okay. And

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we're
my name is Pasquale Mingarelli,
Italian stuff we were talking about.
And the book so that's where you find the book. And you can find it anywhere you'd like to buy books online.
It's all out there. It's by just drawing near, meeting God and his creation by Pasquale Mingarelli.
And you can also find it on my website, thecreationspeaks.com.
What part of Italy is your family from?

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My mother's family so I've got it from both sides. My mother's family is from the Naples area. Okay. And my dad is from the on the Adriatic Side. His family's from over there. It's, it's called Abruzzi Okay. Crusades.
Is what he was the Crusades.
Where are you guys from?
Let's see.
My my mother's side of the family is from Sicily,

(44:33):
and, which a lot of people don't realize, man. Sicily is really its own country. It's, you know Yeah. Well, the Sicilians like to say that. Yeah. It's a different it's a different world, you know. It's, you know, in in Sicily, they actually work for a living, you know.
So,
and then my and then my dad's family is more from Northern Italy. I I if I remember, I was is the

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Cologne area or or is it yeah. I think it's the Cologne area.
No. Not Cologne. I'm sorry. I'm saying I'm saying But no. Colon's in Sicily.
Bolognese.
Yeah. Bologna.
Yeah, Bologna. I had to think of the sauce to get the the name of the place. Yeah.
Gotta do it. Gotta make those a solution.

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You know,
they're from
Bologna, and your mom's from sis and they decided to get married, Well, the way the way it from what I understand is is it and this is, of course, dates back. My my family immigrated here in the eighteen hundreds.
So,
my great

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grandfather
owned a butcher shop in Brooklyn.
And,
my on my
on my grandmother's side, so my my grandmother's father owned this butcher shop.
And my grandfather's
side
owned a shop
just a few places of just a few storefronts down from where they were.

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And, so they had met in in in that those family kinda knew each other. And then my grandmother
never was really interested in my grandfather,
but my grandfather used to go around telling everybody that he was gonna marry her one day, and she would just blow him off. And then and then sure enough, they ended up getting married. So it was it was a very interesting thing, you know, the the way it the way it kinda took place. But,

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but, the,
there there was there was one thing I I was gonna tell you about that. So she didn't want him at first? Is this She didn't? No? No. So
no. She was like, you know.
You know how they are. They're very Italians are very expressive with the hands. That's why my hands are always all over the place. I come constantly knock into the microphone because I just, you know.

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It's just a It just it just comes, you know. And you you also know
when an when an Italian does this to you,
and they're talking to you,
you're in trouble.
Because you know it you know what that means.
Means you're gonna find
but,
last question for you, and we'll let you go from here. But, you cook or does the wife cook?

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Both. I my wife is out of town, so I, of course, had to cook Italian tonight. Alright. Alright.
Well I had to Yeah. Let's let's do this. Alright? Since since since we had the problems earlier and we we lost a lot of our time,
let's do this.
Let's get together again.
Let's let's get another date going. And then,
you'll cook something, I'll cook something, and we'll we'll we'll chow down during the course of the we'll we'll do it on a Sunday. Alright? We'll do it on the Sunday show. This way you can jump in on the bible study with us, and we'll we'll have we'll have our pasta, we'll have our sugar, we'll have all that stuff all going,

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and we'll have a nice nice Italian fellowship. How how about that? Sure.
Sounds great. Love it. Great, brother. Because we always
mom and dad always had the Sunday dinner. That's how, you know That's it. That day, everybody left, everybody started having family. Mom and dad always brought them together for a Sunday dinner. And you know, since I since I moved to Texas, and especially down here, where it's, you know, mostly, Mexican,

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culture down here.
I have
suddenly had a this incredible desire to re embrace my Italian heritage.
So it's like,
so every Sunday now, and it's just me. It's just me and my two dogs, you know. So I so every But but every Sunday, I I make a pot of sauce,
I jar it. I keep it for I keep it for, you know, a couple of days, and I just kinda hit from that. And, brother, it comes out so good. So so so good.

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Alright. Well, with that, my friend, God bless you. Thank you so much for your time tonight.
And, we will. I'll, I'll send you a text later on. We'll we'll get some stuff squared away, and we'll have our Italian fellowship bible study.
Sounds good. Alright, brother. God bless you. Thank you so much for being with us.
Alright, folks.
Alright, folks. This is Joe Roos. It is great,

(48:57):
to have Pat here with us. Let's, I think Pat's having some trouble there. Let's
give him a little
there we go.
And we'll boom. There he goes.
And, okay. Oh, you jumped in already. Alright. Great. Well, I was just gonna take a quick break, so I gotta use the restroom. So Oh, god. Go ahead. Take a break. Alright. Alright. So Take a break. I'm I'm very upfront with my audience. They they, you know, and they stick around too, which makes it even more kinda weird that, you know, I could say I'm gonna go to the bathroom

(49:25):
and they're still here. Alright, folks. So this is, this is Joe Russo. It is great,
to have Pat here with us tonight. And now, we have Marissa here with us and our 08:00 guest, and, we're gonna get to her in just a few minutes. So don't forget, this is a live show. That's why we have all the laughs and all the problems and all that stuff we try to work through. And I'll tell you more about that when when we come back from the break, Marissa.

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But,
don't forget, this is a live show weeknights 7PM,
Saturday mornings well, Saturday afternoons at 3PM, and then Sunday at 6PM. So make sure you check us out, and,
we'll be back just two minutes
after this break. We'll be right back. Stay with us.

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Alright, folks.
Welcome back to the Joe Ruse Show. This is Joe Ruse,
and,
first hour is in the books.
Hour number two coming your way.
We'll be getting into this here momentarily. Folks that are listening here in the Eagle Pass area, just wanna remind you
that we are under a flash flood warning until 11:00 tonight, so please keep that in mind. And, when I went out to use the restroom there, I noticed that it is raining. So let's just keep that in mind, folks. Alright? Just be safe out there. And,

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with us now for our second hour,
we have Marissa
Lee, who is an intuitive
tarot reader with a gift for projecting the future of cryptocurrency.
From Bitcoin to XRP, her psychic insights
have built a loyal following on TikTok and beyond.
But it actually didn't start with crypto. It started with a deeply personal out of body experience

(53:29):
involving
the Catholic saint Padre Pio, which we didn't talk about.
We did not talk about that. But I had a feeling you were gonna bring it up. Yes. I I have to.
I have to. Yes. Go for sure. So,
let me see what I got here. So in involving the Catholic saint Padre Pio, a terminally ill loved one, and a spiritual awakening that changed her life. And so we're gonna touch on that just a little bit as well. Since then, Marissa has become a trusted guide for peep people seeking both financial foresight and emotional healing, whether it's market movements or matters of the heart. Her mission is to help people tune in, level up, and walk forward

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with
clarity.
Marissa, welcome to the show. It is great to finally have you here. We've been chatting back and forth a little bit, and so this is a blessing. How you doing?
I'm great. How are you? I'm so happy to be here. Fantastic.
We're doing fantastic over here. You know, we're just dealing with the weather. We're dealing with, the technical problems that we were having. So this is what had happened.

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So,
or as I say back home, what had happened was,
still don't really know, but for some very strange reason,
Pat and I were were talking before the show. Everything was working fine.
Sent him camera dark,
went to grab my coffee, came back, hit the go live button, and nothing.

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Oh. Absolutely nothing. Nothing. No countdown.
Nothing. Didn't connect to anything. Nothing.
As a matter of fact, right now, we're not even connected to, Facebook, which is irritating.
But, it's it's for some reason, it said it wasn't able to connect. So, well, there you go.
Was it like an Internet problem? Or I don't know. I I really don't know. But I've been having problems with, with the browser studio that I use for Rumble.

(55:17):
I I like I told Pat, I have about 30 tickets open with them with all these things, and it's incredibly irritating to know that because, you know, I am a shareholder in Rumble. You know, I Yeah. I am using this product. So, you know, I as a shareholder, I like to know what the hell's going on.
Right. Right. But, Well, you know, it could be your browser too. You might wanna try using a different browser. Well, for me, I use, I use Brave, and I use it, I use it on the private setting. And that was a recommendation from

(55:44):
from,
what do you call it? The tech support. My dogs are freaking out in the other room for some reason. I don't know what they're barking at, and it's distracting.
And then,
we had so we had that, and then they said not to use it use it behind a VPN.
So I Mhmm. So I don't do the VPN thing anymore.
That kinda helped a little bit, but but that just basically helped the signal degradation. But now it's now that today was just that was freaky. I lost about twenty minutes

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of of the show with that because I had to I had to shut the room down, delete the whole thing.
Everybody who's watching, I had to kick them out
and, had to start all over again. That's why the show notes aren't up. That's they're not complete and and information's missing because I don't wanna sit there and take another twenty minutes to reload everything.
But Hey. That's okay. You know what? We're live, and that's what matters. Well, that's the fun part. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Internet is working. You have power. Interweb is working. You're in a flood zone, so and you're not affected by it, it looks like. So that's good even though there's a warning out. Yeah. We're good. Well, you know, it it's it was funny too because they sent the warning out earlier today, and it was beautiful blue skies, not a cloud anywhere to be seen.

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And, now it's raining and yeah. So but we're we're we're okay. We're doing fine. So,
let's see.
So give us an idea of something. So tell us something about you that most people don't know, but it really should.
I'm kind of a big nerd.

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I I play the cello. You know, I
Why that's not being a nerd. I watch
I I'm a big nerd. I'm a really big nerd. But playing the cello is not gonna make you a nerd?
It kinda does. No. It doesn't. I love the cello. Yeah. The orchestra, yeah, the orchestra kinda makes you a little bit of a nerd, but that's okay. Nerds get rich. Right?
That's what I always say. Nerds get rich. Majority of the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I mean, they're smart and talented and, you know,

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So, you know, I'm a big crypto investor,
obviously, and I I put out all these crypto predictions on TikTok. And it's actually really nice to sit down and talk to somebody,
without, like,
making TikTok videos where I have to cut everything up and make it go as fast as possible to retain my audience. You know, I've had a lot of problems on TikTok. I love TikTok. That's where I started, but,
it's really gone downhill in my opinion,

(57:59):
since Meta. They've been on the Meta servers. You know, Mark Zuckerberg tends to mess everything up. So Yeah. The algorithms changed, and people are constantly copying my profile and impersonating me on TikTok. So I
I have a whole thing that I have to do every week to combat that,
because because I don't want my audience to become victims of, like, a crypto scam thinking that I'm I'm telling them to move their crypto to another wallet. You know? That's a big, big problem. And I take that responsibility

(58:28):
seriously even though I'm not the one that created the problem.
You know, I'm kind of the face of it for whatever reason. And,
yeah, so
it's nice to be on a different platform. It really is. So That's great. The,
I see, I I I was never big with TikTok. I I I I have a TikTok. You know that. You've you've seen it.

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I don't, I I hardly ever post anything on there. I I just I don't like it.
It it really does nothing for me.
And, unfortunate well, it it the the one thing it did do for me is that I got addicted to the TikTok shop,
and I spent a night Yeah. I know. I have that problem. Yeah. And and I end up spending all this money on on junk. You know? That that doesn't do anything. And they make it out to be, like, it's much better than it is, and then you get it and you're disappointed. It's like, what is this? You know? I yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I my latest purchase on the TikTok shop I'm I'm, like, a big, like, health person. So, like, I I anything that has to do with health, I'll always try something. Right? Even if it works or whether it works or not.

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And I bought this, like, sauna. It's like one of those tent saunas, and I love it, though. And so far so good. I it's
yeah. Good purchase there. So I bought that on the TikTok. So if you're into all these health things, you gotta go to my link with the Alex Jones store, the alexjonesstore.com/joe.
You can get yourself some great vitamins and supplements.
I'm waiting for my methylene blue to get here. I'm waiting for my Shilajit to get here. I just placed a new order, so that's always exciting. So that's my plug because I didn't do it before.

(59:54):
So Actually, I have some of that. It's good. Oh, it's great stuff. I I love it. I and one of the great things about methylene blue and, actually, I was, I had a guest on Friday,
a doctor, and I and I told him, I said, you know, probably the the the most fun I've had is that since I've been taking the methylene blue was giving a urine sample at the doctor's office. Oh, yeah. I know. It comes out green. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And just look in the lab tech's face when they see that, like, what the hell is this?

(01:00:20):
You know? It's like That took some adjusting to get through because I'm like,
why am I peeing greed? And I started freaking out, you know. So yeah. Yeah. No. I I understand that. I understand that. It's fun. And, when I when I when I first started taking it, I would I would I I would take
at first I tried it directly under the tongue. Like the the bottle says, the twenty drops under your tongue. But it turned my tongue blue for like a week. Yep. So I was like, no forget this. Yep.

(01:00:48):
So what I sort of do instead is I I make a a non alcoholic cocktail. I was watching Alex Jones talk about it one time, and he he described it. I was like, well, yeah, it looks pretty good. I'm gonna try that.
And honestly,
this combination actually tastes like a vodka cocktail without the vodka. It's, it's the it's the Topo Chico with,
with the methylene blue and a couple of drops of, of the x two iodine that that he sells. Mhmm. And, give it a little bit of a stir over ice. Man, that thing's good. It tastes really good. Really? Yes. It tastes Interesting. It actually tastes like a vodka cocktail

(01:01:20):
without the alcohol. But,
but, I don't know where we're going with this. But,
alright. So speaking of speaking of alcoholic cocktail, so what's your go to beverage to unwind at the end of the day?
I don't really drink. Okay.
Yeah. But,
you know, I would say maybe, like,
a couple times a year, I'll go out with some friends and, you know, I I will have a drink.

(01:01:45):
I do the Jaeger Red Bull, but I do it as, like, a drink, not like a shot. Okay.
Alright. That's good. That's good. For me, it's it's I'm a bourbon guy. I I love I love my bourbons, and I I have I don't I cannot tell you that that's my favorite or that's my go to. I can't it depends on my mood and it depends on what I'm pairing it with. Because I think that I think pairing things with especially with bourbons, you you need to. And,

(01:02:12):
one of my favorite pairings, and I I mention this regularly,
one of my favorite pairings is Elijah Craig toasted barrel with the triple Camacho.
A triple Maduro Camacho,
which is beautiful. I know I was saying it backwards. I'm I'm too much coffee today. So it's a Camacho
is the brand, Triple Maduro is the is the is the blend. And that goes absolutely beautiful with

(01:02:35):
a nice Elijah Craig toasted barrel.
Straight up, no rocks, nothing, just it just
enhances the flavor of both, actually.
So and I don't do that often. It that's that's a rare thing. Like, I
I I don't think I've had a cigar since,
four months now.
Nice. You know? It's because cigars aren't like cigarettes. They're they're they're not artificially pumped with chemicals and stuff. Right. And they're not artificially

(01:03:00):
pumped up with all kinds of junk and stuff like that. So, you know, you could take your time and relax, enjoy. So so you may not get lung cancer. You may get lip cancer, tongue cancer, tooth cancer, even theirs. But, you know, at least it's not lung cancer. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. No. For sure. For sure. Yeah. Well, okay. Look,
I we we could laugh and joke about the stuff all night long, but I will say this though. You did when when we first started talking before the shows,

(01:03:25):
you did a reading for me and that was the first time I ever had a tower reading.
And, I don't know if I said it to you then or or what, but,
afterwards I I was thinking about it and you were so spot on
with with almost everything you told me that it freaked me out.
It really did.

(01:03:46):
So,
you know, so
as a testament
to to what you do,
I will say
the real deal is sitting right here in front of you on the camera here.
She's very good. So if you if you are interested in that, you should definitely look her up.
I I think you'd be
pleasantly,
I don't wanna say surprised, but,

(01:04:07):
I think, I think you'd I think you'd definitely get your, you know, quote unquote money's worth on this. So you should definitely try it out. Now,
you have a, a pretty unique combination of of skills.
So it's an intuitive tower reading, crypto market projections.
You have a background in marketing,
web development.
How did all of that come together?

(01:04:29):
Well,
gosh. I wanna say when I was in my early twenties,
I bought software that helped me develop websites. And so I just kinda started learning how to do it on my own, learning coding on my own, and then I took some classes,
at a community college on, you know, different coding languages. And I just kinda dove right in. I'm the kind of person that just jumps in. And I started

(01:04:49):
creating websites for businesses, and, you know, I got really good at SEO. And SEO has changed so much since the beginning. I mean,
and so I just I help businesses make money. And, I did that for twenty years, and I'm just I got so burned out. And,
I was tired of making everybody else all this money, and then, you know, they kinda stiff me. You know? So it's like,

(01:05:11):
I need I need something else. So, basically, to make a long story short, how I got into this,
I got a sick relative,
stage four bone and lung cancer and dementia,
and, she was very Catholic. Now I'm not Catholic. I was raised Lutheran, and I'm very gay. So I've always kinda had a bad
impression of the Throw that out there.

(01:05:33):
Yeah. Well, I I just I wasn't really, like, all like, yay. You know? But, anyways, she my real the only thing I could do to calm her was to read,
Padre Pio prayers. And,
it was a simple thing that I could do, and it really helped her. And I enjoyed doing it, and
I was so grateful that that was the one thing I could do to calm her down because that's easy, just reading to somebody. Right?

(01:05:57):
And,
I remember there was this one week. It was a very, very rough week for me. I was so busy, and I had to take her to three different doctor's appointments. And at the time, she lived about an hour away from me. So it was like an all day affair.
And,
they were bad appointments. We got bad news, and it was rough, and it was

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yeah. Anyways,
I was defeated
by the end of the third appointment. And I go to bed at night, and I'm laying in my bed, and I said, Padre Pio,
tell me what more I can do to help. Like, I don't know what more I can do to help this situation.
And,
I fell asleep,
and I woke up literally in another realm.

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This was so different than anything I've ever experienced. Like, when you have a dream, you know it's a dream. Like, you wake up and you're like, okay. I had a dream. You know? Whatever.
As conscious as I am sitting in front of you is how conscious
this other realm was that I woke up in. Like, I felt like I was really there,
and everything kinda glowed. I was in front of a Catholic church, and there was this big tree. That's why I have a big tree behind me because I feel very connected to trees now.

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Looking back, I feel like it was like the tree of life, and, Padre Pio was there. Wow. And,
he came he came down from this treehouse that was in this tree, and he was like, Marissa,
I'm so happy to see you.
And I was like,
Padre Pio? Wow.
Like,
this is awesome.
And I've I felt so euphoric. You know? Like, I had no pain in my body. I was happy. I had a lot of energy. Everything was glowing. It was amazing.

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And he's like, come check out my treehouse. And I'm like, sure. Like, that's awesome. I love treehouses. So,
I went up to his treehouse, and I go inside. And it's very cozy. It wasn't, like, luxurious, but it was cozy.
And,
he had letters on a shelf, like, a lot of letters. And,
I didn't really know a lot about him other than,
like, these prayers that I would read.

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So,
he had me sit at his kitchen table. It was a very small table, and he looked at me, and he was like,
I need to help you.
And I was like, okay.
And,
he told me to stand up next to him and hold his hand, and I did. And then this light went through me, and it was the most euphoric experience I have ever felt in my life.

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And I woke up,
and
I I didn't have any pain in my body, which was rare. I've had I have a lot of sports injuries. And,
yeah, it was it was just amazing. I it's it was indescribable
that light. It felt like you're at the top of a roller coaster,
and you're about to go down and you know that that adrenaline

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feeling that goes through you Oh, sure. Without your but without your stomach dropping. Because the stomach dropping is a little uncomfortable, but it was like the That's why you're going rolling in. Running through you. It was euphoric. It was
yeah. It was great. So,
so I I shot up. I'm like, oh my god. Like, I met Padre Pio. And, you know, I you know, people thought I was a little crazy.

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Maybe I was. I don't know. Whatever.
But I it was it gave me a renewed sense of, like, the world. It was such a strong experience for me. And so then about a month later,
a friend of a friend came over to my house, and she read my tarot cards, and I never believed in it. And at the time, I was really wanting a career change. That was one of the things that I didn't talk to anybody about it, but it was just something I kinda felt deep inside. I wanna get on web development. I was tired of dealing

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with small business owners and and everything, and it was just
yeah.
So she read my cards, and she accurately described a lot of things that was going on in my life. I'm like, how did you know this? And she's like, oh, it's in the tarot cards. The tarot cards are it'll give you all this information about people. It's very psychically connected,
very spiritually connected, and I'm like,

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So,
yeah, I started learning tarot. It it took quite took several months, but and a lot of studying. It's like learning another language.
But I started doing that, and I'm like, alright. I'm gonna go on TikTok. I'm gonna go on TikTok live, and I'm just gonna answer everybody's questions according to what the cards tell me, and I'm gonna do it for free. And it was just kinda like my way to practice. And I got a lot of really great feedback. And,

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yeah, so then I started taking psychic development classes too. I have one of the best mentors in the country. I am so blessed. She's a she's the best psychic I've ever encountered.
She actually finds missing people. Oh, wow.
Yeah. No. She's and she's been all over the crime shows. The woman, she's phenomenal.
And she helped I take her classes.

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She does these retreats, and she teaches, like, different methods on, you know,
ways to increase your psychic ability. And and,
she's really
been a
a preeminent figure in my life. So,
I'm very blessed to to it just all kinda came together. So I, you know, I made a website, and then I started, you know, giving people readings, and then I started going to expos.

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And one of the things that I've always loved is crypto. I'm a big crypto investor. I mean, I love IT, you know, so I kinda knew about the blockchain.
And I'm like, there's so much money to be made in this. Right. And it's still it's still at the beginning stages. Mhmm. So I figured out a way
to start doing
tarot spreads on cryptos

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to predict what's gonna happen in the market, and I started posting them on TikTok. And,
now generally, when I when I do a tarot spread for a crypto, it's, like, for a year's it's like a year out. You know? Like, sometime within a year, this will happen. Right? This price point will hit.
So quite a few of them have hit already. So it it gave me a little bit of street credit. So,

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yeah, so here I am. And,
yeah, so that's what I do know is I I love focusing on crypto. I I love it when people order readings from me, and they're like, let's talk about my crypto portfolio because I'll sit there and I'll talk I'll talk their ear off about crypto. I I just I love it so much. So and I do feel like it's a way to redistribute wealth.
And with the economy being as bad as it's been,

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I think that
it's so important to help people get back on track, get out of debt.
I know so many people that are struggling. So if I can do something where I can guide them in a way
where they make a little bit of an investment and it ends up bringing,
you know, something significant to the table and it helps them, that's what I wanna do.

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So from a I guess from a psychic perspective then talking about crypto,
where what do you see happening with the crypto market this year and into next year?
The bull run is coming very, very soon. Look how excited you guys are. Wow. Listen to this. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's gonna be so good, Joe. Oh my goodness. Go for it. So
the House of Representatives They all I'm not clear. No. No. I know. We're not I know. I don't like I know. I tell you, I like I don't wanna like talking about politics,

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but this is No. No. No. I'm I'm taking notes. Yep. Oh, okay.
So they just declared
July 14,
the start of crypto week. Okay.
So they're,
they're doing a whole bunch of different stuff here with crypto. They're passing all these crypto bills, and it's gonna help put the framework in,
to regulating the crypto market in a way where,

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people have more confidence in it, where you don't feel like it's everything's a scam,
you know, because there's that. There are scams in crypto, and there's there's hackers.
There's all kinds of stuff. I mean, I've talked to people that have had their wallets hacked. I mean, it is awful. It's the worst thing in the world. It really is.
So,
new framework is being set forth,

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through our federal government, which is a very, very good thing.
And I think it's gonna bring in a lot of new investors, and they're gonna jump right in. And the crypto market is gonna shoot up, and it's gonna shoot up very, very soon.
Within the next
two weeks tops
is is kind of
my feel on this. I think it's gonna be, you know, maybe in the next week. I'm may that might be a little bit too soon. But within the next two weeks, we're gonna see some big movements in the crypto market. What do you what do you think is

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as as an entry level person coming into the crypto markets, the the best
cryptocurrency to get into? The most realistic that you can actually make some money on?
And how much would you invest initially before well, how much would you invest? But how much would how much would you purchase of of crypto before you start seeing a a a a good return on it?

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So that's gonna vary. It also depends on what your goals are. How how
long you can keep your money in the market. Some people are struggling really bad financially, and they can't keep their money in the market really long. So it's gonna be a little bit of an uphill battle. But right now, there's a chance that you could, like, you know, within
a couple weeks, make, you know, thousands of dollars.
But that also depends on how much you can invest initially. Correct? Yes. Yes. Like, there's people on TikTok. There's this guy.

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He calls himself an expert and a crypto millionaire. And all he did was invest in XRP when it was, like, 78¢ a coin, and he invested, like, $80 into it. And I'm sitting there like, that doesn't really make you a crypto expert. You just invested in XRP early, and a lot of other people did. So,
you you have to kind of I I would recommend diversifying.

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One of
the cryptos that I recommend to everybody that I constantly push is Algorand.
And the reason I push Algorand is because I got a message, two messages,
actually, in my dreams of Algorand
being huge.
And
so let me tell you about that. This is this is interesting. Okay. So,

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I'm laying in bed one night, and I'm thinking like, okay. Tomorrow, I need to make a couple more crypto videos. I need to review some cryptos. What haven't I done? What's, you know, next on the list? There's, like, 20 of them I was kinda looking at. And I loosely thought about doing a review about Algorand, but it wasn't on, like, a high priority in any way, shape, or form. Right?
So I go to bed,
and I fall asleep. I have a dream. I don't remember what it was about. But I woke up to somebody screaming at me. Elgorand. Elgorand. Elgorand.

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And it was so loud, and it woke me up. Wow. And I'm like,
Algorand. I guess I gotta do a video on Algorand. So, you know, I do a spread, and I look at the a picture of the CEO,
and
I see all this amazing,
amazing stuff happening with Algorand.
I really like the CEO, Stacy Wharton. I think she's phenomenal, and she doesn't get enough credit for what she's doing.

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She gets a lot of criticism on x. I'll say that. And,
I think that she's got really, really good karma. One of that's probably one of the strongest things that came out about her because I I were gonna spread out her. And I here's the thing. I also have a lot of friends that are psychic. And so when I feel strongly about something, I'll run it past my friends that are psych because I go to these shows. I meet people.

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I take these classes. And so I have a a group of about a dozen people that have unique psychic abilities. Mhmm. And so
on certain things, when I when I start to put out, like, a lot of information, especially about crypto and invest, I wanna make sure that I'm correct. Right? So I threw Stacy's picture out to my friends.
They were like they all had positive things to say, and so I'm like, okay. I know I'm on track with this.

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What I see with her is I see her having really good karma, and that makes a very, very big difference in the success of a business because I've dealt with a lot of small business owners, and the karma that you create does come back to you. And so I I could give somebody success on a platter when it comes to marketing and their web selling, whatever it is they're selling.
And I've done that before, and people with bad karma

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and that just don't really make good choices in their life or or they're not thoughtful of other people
can't be successful no matter what you do. Or they'll be successful for a short period of time, and then it's taken away. Mhmm. Has to do with karma. So it it matters. It really matters in the success of a business, who's running it and what their karma is. And I know that that sounds a little bit offbeat from what normal people may think.

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But Stacy Wharton has good karma, and I have a lot of confidence in her. So and then in addition to that, I had another dream about Algorand.
So get this.
So I had a dream that, I was floating over the office of El Gorand, and somebody
was guiding me. I I I didn't know who it was, but I did feel like it was someone around Stacy

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that has given me some of these messages, right, and given me some of these feelings.
And they were showing me what she was doing. And she had she was in front of a room, and there was a bunch of people, like, with rows of computers and developers, and they were working on something really vigorously.
And she was leading the pack, almost like a composer in an orchestra.

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And I knew that they were working on something so amazing. And so with with that being said, I woke up and I gotta make another Algorand video.
And so that's when I started the Philip Fenway Algorand because I wanted to make it fun. You know, I love baseball too. Right.
And Algorand is in Massachusetts. So I was like, let's all get together at Fenway and throw a big party hits $5 a coin.

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And so I I have a bunch of people that they would do it. So we'll we'll see how that goes. But
Where is Algorand right now on,
on price per coin?
18¢.
Wow.
Yeah. Check this out. That's within my wheelhouse. I can afford that. Oh, yeah. No. Absolutely. So my prediction is within a year, it's gonna be in the $5 range. Okay. And after that, if you can hold it for two years, we're gonna be looking at a price point of at least $11.

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Oh, wow. So oh, yeah. I mean, when you get 18¢ into $11, I mean, it's it's gonna be What's their, what's their ticker? Their their abbreviation?
Algo, a l g o.
Okay. I'm gonna check them out after the show.
Well and and one more thing I wanna say about Algo Rand is they're ISO
two certified, which means banks are gonna start using

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this type of a crypto
to communicate with each other. And there's only, like, maybe 10 on the list, at least 10 that I know of. So I'm not an ISO 20 o 22 expert. Algorand's on there, and that starts July 14.
So I'm like, oh, this is gonna get so good. Now here's the thing. Algorand isn't a straight shot up to $5. The market is

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up and down constantly. So it's gonna go up. It's gonna down. It's gonna go up. And I get a lot of slack whenever Algorand goes down. And I'm like, you know what?
Just go with the flow, and this is a year hold. And so that's what I I don't want people to expect that they're gonna, you know, make this kind of money in a month because it's not gonna happen. It's gonna take at least a year.
I've,
you know, I purchased some some Ethereum because you and I had spoken about Ethereum, when we had our conversation.

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And,
it is. The the market is volatile, without a doubt, you know. I mean, I I invested I didn't I didn't invest a lot,
but
it was funny because it was trending up until I invested and now it's just going
right down again. And, you know, normally, you know, most people would panic when they start seeing that and immediately try to to take it out, you know. But but you're right though. You have to let it sit there. You have to let it do its thing. Like, you know, Bitcoin. Bitcoin's what now? It's a 100 and something thousand per coin.

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You know, it it and it's volatile. I mean, it was just a few months ago. It was a hundred hundred and one thousand, and it dropped down to, like, 91,000,
and people are panicking,
over the loss of it. But,
but but in reality, you have to let it run its course. I mean, you just gotta give it a chance and let it do its thing. Another coin that we talked about too is that that that Texa coin. You know, I I bought it a Texa coin. It was, things like 30¢ a coin when I bought it. It's like a dollar 40 now.

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It hasn't really it's it's kinda fluctuating between, like, $1.32 and
$1.40 over the last couple of days, so it hasn't made too much
of a of a, of a gain. But, you know, I it looks like it's moving. It's moving in a good direction, so I'm holding on to that, you know. It's like, yeah. I already made some money on it because I I bought it really, really cheap.

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Right. So I'm I'm looking to do the same thing with Algo here. So I'm gonna check them out definitely for sure
after the show. Now you mentioned XRP. So what exactly is XRP?
Oh, XRP is one of the big dogs. I know about XRP.
And,
you know, I love XRP. So XRP is a layer one blockchain,

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and they are ISO 20 o 22 certified as well. Now
the SEC and the prior administration
went after
XRP pretty aggressively and wanted to make an example out of them.
And, thankfully,
we have a new SEC now that dropped everything, and they're good now. And so everything is settled legally with them. But they were stagnant for a while. You couldn't even buy XRP for a little bit.

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So
I personally got in at, like, I don't know,
under 50¢ a coin, and now it's, like, over $2 a coin. And so it was a nice it was a nice profit, and that that's gonna continue to grow. I mean, XRP is a beast. But here's the thing. There's a lot of myths out there about XRP. Like, is XRP gonna hit
$10,000
a coin? That's like a thing on TikTok. I cannot believe how many people really believe that XRP is gonna hit $10,000 a coin.

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It's a little bit sad to me. It's it's impossible for that to happen because there's such a big supply. There's a 100,000,000,000
available. And so with Bitcoin, there's only 21,000,000.
So there that's a that's a big difference. So,
you have to have realistic expectations on that, and,
they're just gonna continue to grow and build and grow and build and grow and build.
So they're a beast too. Who controls They're gonna surpass Ethereum at some point in terms of market cap. So Who controls the the volume?

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The market.
Okay. So the thing with the crypto market is that it's really based on supply and demand.
How many coins are available versus how much money is invested into it is what determines the price. And, you know, there's also a liquidity pool too. Like, how much money
is in liquidity and how much how many coins do, let's say, the founders have that isn't really on the market.

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So there's that too. But it's supply and demand at the end of the day.
I'm just try I'm trying to think, like,
like, something something like Bitcoin. Alright? You know, obviously, we all missed the boat on that one.
Well, most of us anyway.
You know? Most of us missed the boat on that one. Do you ever see a point where Bitcoin becomes more affordable to the average person?

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You know, I think there's a possibility
that we could have a serious correction on Bitcoin at some point.
Not anytime soon,
but
it could definitely lose at least 25% of its value over the course of the next, like, year, year and a half. Wow. That's a lot. When you when you think about it, you know, at a $105,000

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a coin, you know, to lose 25% value on that, that's that's a huge drop.
Yeah.
But
I don't think it's gonna go under,
let's say, $60,000
a coin ever again. So I think that's kinda, like, the worst it could correct. And
even still, even if it does if that does happen and I'm not saying that's my definite prediction. Right. That's just kind of, like, a little bit of a feeling that I have right now.

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If we get closer to that point and I feel that coming, you better believe I'm gonna put that out there and kinda warn people.
It'll go back up again. It's just one of those things that you gotta roll it's like a roller coaster. It's up. It's down. I mean and there's a it's not like the stock market where things kinda you know, they'll go up, they'll go down, but it's not, like, big. Like, the crypto market's, like, bipolar.

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Oh, yeah. I know. It's crazy. Yeah. It's crazy. It's big. I, you know, I
I only recently really started getting into the crypto stuff, you know. And as a matter of fact, I know you and I spoke about this too that, you know, I, for people who wanna make donation to the show, I I you can I I have my crypto wallet information up on the support page? You're more than welcome to, make a deposit there. I'd appreciate that.

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Yeah, guys. Let's support Joe. Go to joerooz.com.
That's j0er00z.com.
Send him some crypto. Show him some love. Yeah. So joerooz.com/support,
and you'll see it right there. I'd appreciate that. That'd be great.
So,
now you've you've used Taro also to read CEOs
and, and and and crypto industry, you know, leadership.

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What's what's that?
What had what's come of that that might surprise people?
Well, I try really hard not to put out anything too negative Mhmm. Or or anything too personal. You know?
You know, sometimes I'll see all this guy's cheating on his wife or, you know, whatever. I don't put that out there because, you know, to me, that's not

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he didn't ask me to read them. Right? You know, I'm not gonna just put his personal information out there,
kinda deal. But, you know, I see a lot of nerds. I see a lot of nerd stuff. I see Dungeons and Dragons going on. I see Magic the Gathering going on. I see a lot of LARPing with these
I mean, in their younger years. Right?
I know. I've been just kind of picturing in my head some some crypto CEO sitting on the floor with his with his,

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with his 10 sided dice.
Yep. Yep.
Yep. Oh, good night.
But like I said, nerds get rich. You know? Hey. Whatever. I mean, you know, it's it's there's some, there's some brilliant people behind these crypto projects. And what's awesome is when you kinda get away from the traditional

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banking system,
it's just a little bit more free flowing.
You know? And and it can redistribute
wealth. It can it takes money out of, like, big tech and kinda puts it back into the little guy. And it's a it's a way to,
for us to kinda take control of things a little bit because, you know, we've we've gotten to this point where there's so many people that are just so super wealthy, and then there's so many more people that are poor. Right. And it's like, what happened to that balance? I feel like crypto's gonna help bring a little bit more balance into that. I I you would hope so.

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One of my concerns has been and and not to not to dip into the political side of this, you know, but and again, you know, we had some comments about this already.
My, I guess my main concern is when it and when the government really gets involved with
crypto,
the potential
for abuse with the cryptocurrencies
could
exponentially

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increase.
And some of the examples that I've used in the past have been, you know, the example of wrong think. You know, you know, you you have an opinion, an idea, something that the government does not like, and they can very easily just click your wallet off, and you have no access to your money. You have no you can't do any kind of transactions
until you
change the way you think to get in line with the government, then they turn it on a little bit at a time until they are guaranteed that you are in line with them and what they think.

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That is a main that's why I I
I would prefer cryptos to stay decentralized and stay away from that type of,
involvement with government.
But, I mean, it's inevitable it's gonna happen, you know, that I don't I don't see any possibility that that
you might have you might have an element of both. It might be some of that is that central, you know, digital currencies like like like,

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where they could CBDCs, whatever they're called.
Central Bank. Yeah. CBDC.
You're gonna have that, but I I think
I think the safest and the most healthiest direction to go with crypto is in a decentralized format.
You know? And so that that's my main concern, and, and I see that coming. Unfortunately, I I you know, the, you know, the more control government takes over these things,

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I'm not an anarchist or anything like that, but I do believe in a in a in a small central government whose daily activity should not impact my life
to the I agree. To the level that it does. You know? I agree. You know, here's
here's my comments on that. Number one,
the best way to store your crypto is in a cold wallet, in a cold wallet storage. Right? Get a get a ledger, get an Arculus, get,

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I mean, there's all kinds of companies that make them.
Get your crypto into a USB where you have control of it, where it cannot be taken away from you, from anybody, including
the government Mhmm. Unless they have the keys. If you leave it in an exchange, you know, and let's say you owe money to the IRS or you know, they could go and they could take it. You know?
But if it's in cold wallet, they can't

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now I'm not saying to necessarily, like, hide your money, you know,
in that way,
but it does give you a little bit more control. Now, personally, I moved a lot of my,
crypto holdings into
cold wallet storage because I had a hacking situation. Mhmm. You know, because I'm on TikTok and I do all this crypto stuff, I was definitely a big target.
I had,

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yeah,
that it was it was rough. It was rough. But they didn't take my crypto. I took precautions because I knew at some point, you know, this was gonna take off, and I would probably be a target. And
I needed to make sure that nothing was on my computer, nothing was on my phone.
Everything is just tucked away where nobody can touch it. So that's what I did personally, and that's always the best way to go about it. I don't necessarily think that we have to worry so much about the government turning off our wallets

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anytime
soon. But in the future,
maybe.
But right now, we're we're at the beginning stages. So
think about it like this. If you were to invest in Microsoft when it first came out, when it their IPO first was announced,
they could and you just held on to it. Think about how much money you would have today. That's where we're at with crypto. We are literally in the beginning stages Right. Of this blowing up. So this is something you wanna get a little bit of and hold on to, and you don't even need to invest a lot of money. You just need to keep your money in the market. The longer you keep your money in the market, the better off you'll be. Yeah. I I agree with that. You gotta let it sit. You gotta let it run its course. And, you know,

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look, you have to weather the storms. The the volatility in the market's always gonna be there no matter what you do.
And
besides someone like me, you know, I'll I'll take it out and next thing you know,
the two minutes after I take it out, it it spikes up to three times what it was when I had it in the first place. You know? And
it's just the it's just the way it works. That's just my that's just the way it works for me.

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So, you know, it's just so just just let it just let it go. I mean, look, especially if you got on something that that's
that's new, you know? Something that's not
that that's not Bitcoin. It's not costing you hundreds of thousands of dollars to start off with. You know, something like you said with, Algo, XRP, or or even that Texacoin thing. You know, I invested I invested money in Texacoin. It was cheap. And if I lose it all, what did I lose? I lost, what, $30?

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You know, in the Right. Right. Yeah. In the grand scale of thing. For sure.
Yeah. So just let it run its course. Let it do its thing. That that I think that's incredibly important to to consider.
And, I think, I'm gonna disagree with you on one thing. I think it's closer to the government taking control of all this stuff than people think it is, but
you never know. Yeah. I I'm hopeful. You know, listen, it's possible. I I don't put anything past the government at this point. I mean, they're way too involved in our lives, and we're being surveilled every which way you turn. So Yeah. That little that little thing. You know what's funny too? I noticed that on my, on my downloads,

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I've had
quite a few
shows that
were heavily downloaded from the Washington DC area.
So and I had never noticed that before. So so
someone's
watching. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Maybe so. So in in that case, you know,

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to to the FBI to the FBI agent who's watching my show right now.
Yeah. Thank you. So, Ben, I don't wanna be on that list.
Listen, if you're not on a government watch list, then you're not doing something right. So
Maybe you're right.
Sometimes. I get one every now and then.
But,
outside of crypto,

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you've helped a lot of people with relationships, spiritual growth.
And, you know, we talked we talked about vibration. You've mentioned it a few times.
How do you guide people toward raising their their vibration? And maybe even before you get to that, for people who might not know, what exactly are you talking about when you're talking about vibration?

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You know, it's interesting that you asked me that question because I had a feeling you were gonna ask me that question. I was thinking about it today. I was like, I wonder what he's gonna ask me. I'm like, I know he's gonna ask me about the raising the vibration and what exactly it means. As an intuitive, you should have known everything I'm gonna ask you before you even got here.
I I had an inkling for sure. Okay. So
raising your vibration, we all function at a at a certain vibration, like a certain level, and there's all kinds of levels. Like, the higher up you are,

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the more spiritual you become, the more, like, good things happen to you. Mhmm. You experience good luck, good energy. You're putting out good energy. You're receiving good energy.
Right? And it's not like there's, like, this
map that we can see and test. Like, I can't, like, put my finger up to something and say, what's my vibration level? Right?
So raising your vibration has to do with putting out good energy Okay. And receiving good energy and

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functioning at just a higher spiritual level
than others maybe.
You know, somebody like let's say mother Teresa. Right? Like, she was, like, a nun that gave everything she could to everybody. You know? Like, she functioned at a very, very, very high vibration,
because she was selfless.
You know? I know people that work in the spiritual realm that

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claim to, you know, function at this high vibration because they're so talented,
and they really don't.
They're greedy.
They rip people off. They lie to people. They scare people. They use their gift to manipulate people.
And, really,
those people, like, tend to kinda go a little bit lower and then things start crumbling around them.

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So,
you know, everything that we do has karma attached to it. So a way to raise your vibration is to just show gratitude for the little things in life. Like, I step out in my backyard, and I see nothing but green and trees and grass. Nice. And sometimes I just take in the view, and I'm like, I am so grateful to have this view. I am so grateful for these trees that are providing
clean oxygen to breathe.

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Is I'm so grateful to have hot water in my shower. I'm grateful to have organic vegetables in my fridge. You know, just just stuff like that. And then also, like, having good intentions with everything. You know, when somebody comes to you for help, you don't take advantage of them. You don't sit there and think, what can I get out of it? You know, you really just genuinely do what you can to help

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without
it hurting you. That and that's important too. That's one thing that I've kinda learned throughout that
throughout the years is
you have to have boundaries with people, and you can't Sure. Help somebody too much where it's hurting yourself.
And a lot of people do that. A lot of people, you know, tend thinking they're doing the right thing by by overextending themselves and it and they're being a detriment to themselves.

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And they're
I've I know from experience. I've I've seen it. I've I've been in situations like that myself where you know you kind of throw yourself too far into it, and you end up getting crushed, you know, because you spent so much time, so much energy
trying to help lift somebody else up. You're not taking care of yourself, and you're just wearing yourself down, and it takes a long time sometimes to get that energy back. So, yeah, that's that's great, man. That's

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I've been fascinated with this stuff for a little bit now, and,
you know, I've I've been I've been doing my own reading, my own research on these things. And, you know, coming from a, from a, you know, a born again Christian background, and, you know, as as somebody who who believes the word of God, the Bible, you know,
you know, you're you're kinda, like, looked at kinda weird when you talk about these things, that you have an interest in these things. But I, you know, at this point, I I was like, you know what? Screw it. I'm interested in this. I wanna learn about it. I wanna know about it.

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And,
it's been absolutely fascinating,
the things that I've been I've been reading and learning. Because a lot of it is so interconnected. There are so many different ways
of,
applying,
like okay. Well, let's take meditation for example. Right?
Meditating
is basically what? That that is just

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getting within something within your at a place within yourself where you where you just are in a totally relaxed state.
You're controlling your breathing, you're controlling your thoughts, you're controlling your emotions,
and maybe a little different for everybody, maybe I'm not fully explaining it right. I am a newbie, you know, so I'm still learning some of these things. But at the same time, and from a Christian perspective, we're told to meditate.

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We're told to meditate on the word of God. Well, it's the same thing. It's really the same thing. You know, you're you're taking you're taking a passage of scripture,
and you're getting into a quiet place
where you're you're controlling yourself, you're controlling your your breathing, your energy level, you're focusing your attention on something that's holy, something that's perfect, something that's beautiful,
and you're meditating on the principles that are behind those words. So really what's the difference?

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You know, and I I don't
it's I I struggle with it sometimes because, you know, people I know will, you know, look at me like,
what happened to you? You know, all of a sudden now you're you're you're meddling with this witchcraft. You know, it's not witchcraft.
You know, it's just, you know, what Meditation is not witchcraft. No. I know that. I know. But but but there are a lot of people who don't know that or or or at least

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don't understand that. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it's it's it's,
it's it's a very strange strange strange place in which we live.
But,
but, you've also, built up a very large following on TikTok.
Right? And,
so what what advice would you have or would you give

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for,
in in in for for spiritual or or holistic creators trying to grow their own audience? How would you steer them?
Put out as much content as you possibly can,
and put it on as many platforms as you possibly can.
Get some video editing software.
Use keywords

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in the title,
in your description,
and just keep on building. Build, build, build. And, like, somebody that's a psychic,
you know, because I've done marketing and web development for other psychics. So one of the things I've told every single person that I've done this for is put predictions out on social media where it's time stamped. So that way, when it comes true, you can go back to that. It gives you that credibility.

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Nobody has done that with everybody I've worked for. I'm like, you know what? I'm doing that. I'm doing that, and that's what really has built my audiences.
It it's interesting. I I don't even remember half the predictions that I put out because I, you know, I try to make a video every day, although I've been slacking lately. I took some time off for the July 4. But, You're allowed. It's okay. Yeah. People, people comment on videos I made six months ago. Oh, this came true. That came true. That was good. And I was like, oh, cool. So I actually don't even pay attention to it. I rely on my audience to validate whether it came true or not. You know? So Do you do you have a lot of interaction with your audience?

(01:41:34):
I try to. Yeah.
Although,
sometimes, like, on some of the more popular videos that I've done,
you know, comments come in, like, by the dozens. And, I mean, I'll read them. I read every comment, but I don't necessarily reply to everyone because
sometimes, like, it can create, like, a whole new topic, right, on something that is a little off topic. So I'll try to create a video on different cryptos that they want reviewed. You know, there's cryptos I would have never reviewed had I not had somebody, like, constantly comment on it. You know? So and I found some good gems that way. So, I mean, hey. I I rely on my audience too to help guide me

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to where they think this should go.
You know, that's great. And and and, see, I I like I said, I don't mess around too much on TikTok. And and when I posted one video recently,
a a clip from a show I did a couple weeks ago. And,
you know,
and you gotta remember it's a clip. You know, it's it's one segment of a much larger project.

(01:42:34):
So I got comments like, this guy's an idiot. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
All that stuff. Jeez. Well, did you read did you did you watch the rest of the show? Did you listen to the rest of the show? Did to understand what the context of that clip was?
You know? Mhmm. But I find myself because I'm I'm a I'm a Sicilian.
I'm from New York. I'm a bit of a hothead. You know.

(01:42:55):
May not look that way, but I am.
You know, I my first reaction is when I see someone say something like that is like,
it's taking a great amount of restraint for me not to respond to these things. So the the reason why I was asking about your interactions your interactions with your audiences,
is because, like, I'm torn. Like, I don't know if I wanna get into those kind of confrontations on the social media stuff,

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because they can really degenerate very quickly.
So so here's my advice for you, Joe. Just ignore it or delete it and block that person. I've had people name call me
so badly. They call me a clown and this and that. And you know what it what really started it was when I put out a video saying, is XRP gonna hit $10,000
a coin?

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And I think I got, like, a 100,000 views on the video or something like that. And,
people got so mad at me, and they just started name calling me. And I deleted and blocked those people because here's the thing. I I'm I don't care if people agree with me or not or they believe it or not. I can handle those kind of comments. But when you start name calling me, I'm like, I don't need that kind of energy around me. So I don't even give it any energy. I don't respond to it. I just delete and block the the people. Totally good. And then that way, I don't I don't have to worry about them in the future. Right. And and I totally get that because, you know, I'm not looking to argue. I'm not looking to fight with people or anything like that. I really

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don't wanna spend the energy to do it.
But, but you got a 100,000 views. And I got 30, and I thought I was doing good. Jeez. That's
That's because it was about XRP. XRP
is a topic that so many people search about. It's got, like, high keyword volume. Sorry. My dogs barked. That's okay. I'm just curious because I have because my dogs are out in the other room.

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And and when I when I do the show, I leave the TV on in there for them, and I have the show on this on TV for them because they believe it or not, they watch.
My my my Charlie, my my boy,
he I I guess he I guess he understands or knows the tone of voice that I use when I'm closing the show out because as soon as I say that we're ready to finish Oh, yeah. He's at the door of the studio, scratching the bottom of the door, he's ready to go. So Yep. You know, it so they're watching it. I'm just curious though. They know. If he if if they heard your dog barking, if they're gonna react to that. Because we were watching Oh, that's funny. We were watch no. And the reason because they they watch TV, these two. The two of them. We we watched Jaws,

(01:45:12):
the fiftieth anniversary edition of Jaws, a couple weeks a couple days ago. And, you know, there's a few scenes in Jaws where there there's a dog, you know. You got the the guy playing catch with his dog and the beast before the dog gets eaten by the shark. And or at least that's what they, you know, imply because he's disappeared.
I'm glad they don't show that because that hurt hurt my heart. I don't care about the kid getting flipped over and getting chewed on. That that didn't bother me. You know, just don't show me the dog getting hurt.

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That's terrible. Right? Oh, man.
I'm a horrible human being.
So they were watching that and and every time they saw a dog,
the two of them would run to the TV screen and they would stand up and they would be, like, their face right at the TV chase following the dog, attracting the dog back and forth across the screen.
Or if or if they were or if the dog was barking on the TV on the movie, they would react to that. And, so I'm just curious. It was I gotta go back. I have a ring camera, and I gotta go back and watch it later and see what they did.

(01:46:05):
I'm I'm very I'm very curious.
Interesting. But they're Interesting. Interesting. They're great. They're they're my babies. I love them. They're the best. How how did they do with the fourth of July? They were fine. It was actually Oh, okay. It was it was strangely quiet around here for the fourth this year.
Strangely quiet.
Usually,
it's it's just you can't tell if it's a firework or a firearm going off.

(01:46:27):
Yeah. Yeah. No. I understand. There's just so much there's just so much going on. But, yeah. Yeah. It was kinda quiet. We just like I said, I I did I did a show. I wasn't planning on doing a show, on the on the fourth, but,
the guest that I had I had a guest booked, and he he canceled. And he was so nice about it that he actually gave me a heads up
that he was gonna cancel and just did not show up and leave me stranded with, you know okay. Well

(01:46:53):
that's so rude. Live show, and I have no guest.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, so inconsiderate. Oh, yeah. I mean, but I can wing it, though. I can go off the top of my head. I'm fine. But Mhmm. But, he was so nice about it, and he said, like, really the only time extra time he had was extra time he had was on the fourth. So I was like, alright. Well, we'll do the show on the fourth then. So I so we did it and, it was it turned out really good and, we we were only gonna do for an hour. We ended up going two hours, two and a half hours actually. And, it was it was great. And and the whole time during the show, it was then the main reason why I didn't wanna do it is because

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I didn't want the background noise to have the fireworks going off while I was doing the show. Yeah. But there was none. It was it was so quiet. And then and then we just, you know, I I made them I made them their steak dinner, and we just, you know, watched Jaws.
So it was fun. Your dogs live a good life. They do. They do. I spoil them. You know what? I'll I'll tell you.
I I've mentioned it before in the show. I'm not I'm not gonna go into all the details again. But,

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when I went when I went through my lowest point
three years ago or so,
they were the ones that were there by my side through it. Yeah. You know? And,
so for me,
they deserve everything. And I and I give them whatever whatever I have, they have. It's like I tell people this is their house just as much as it is mine.
You know? I joke around and I say, well, you know, my will states that they get the house when I'm gone. So,

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you know I love that.
I love that. And if there really was a legal way to do it that way, I would. But
Yeah. Right? But, I know for sure. But, you know, they're they're great. I love I absolutely adore them. I love them. So, just gonna pivot back to crypto for a second. Sure. What's the most surprising or fun
crypto prediction that you've made that came true?

(01:48:36):
Onyx coin. Okay. So listen to this.
A couple people made comments about it, and I had I'd never looked at it. So in December of twenty twenty four,
it was, like, a fraction of a penny.
I can't you know, we when we get under a penny, I don't remember the prices. I mean, it was, like, a bunch of zeros and whatever.
So, I ran a tarot spread, and I got really good cards. So I and I was feeling like it was gonna hit a penny.

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So where it was at in December compared to where it needed to be to hit a penny, you had a it had to do, like, a 10 times gain.
So it had to double in value 10 times in order to hit that penny, and it hit it the next month.
And I was like, whoo. But it also hit it when the whole market was going down. And then I saw BlackRock was involved in it, And I did not like that. So, I told everybody to sell it, and then it went down. So I'm like, that's great.

(01:49:30):
One of my close friends, I had her buy some. She made, like, $5 off of it. That was awesome.
I made some money off of it. I feel like I
genuine like, if if people followed
everything that I suggested at that time, they would have made some money. So
Nice. But
you know, so and I do not recommend people buy Onyx coin Well, I'm gonna for the record. I was I I wrote it down, so I'm gonna just cross that off. Yeah. Cross that out. Cross that out. Cross that one out. If I were you, I'd get some Solana.

(01:49:59):
I'd get some Ethereum.
I'd get some let's see here. Oh, get some say. It's, you spell it s e I. Get some of that. That's good.
Oh, get some origin trail.
Yeah. That that'll be a good one.
Doge is gonna do okay.
They've got a huge supply though.

(01:50:21):
Is it isn't Doge kinda like a meme coin?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah. But here's the thing. Like, with with all the government, like, stuff with the Doge agency or whatever they call it now,
it's gonna it's one of the meme coins that will do well
and will be around for long periods of time.

(01:50:44):
Alright. So you say Ethereum, Solana, Algo, XRP,
say Mhmm. And what was the last one? OriginTrail?
OriginTrail.
I also really like render. Oh, here's something,
here's a prediction. I feel like AI in the crypto world is gonna be huge. People are using AI for everything nowadays. And so when the blockchain is integrated into that, some of the AI cryptos are gonna do really, really well, and render is one of them. So, I highly recommend getting that. But I also you know, with AI, there's gonna be some issues.

(01:51:18):
There's gonna be major issues that pop up where AI is going to be used in a in a nefarious way against people. So,
whether that you know, I I feel like there's gonna be hacking using AI Mhmm. In the blockchain, which
I'm like, cold wallet, guys. Cold wallet. Get get everything in a cold wallet.
I I feel like AI is gonna be used in other ways too

(01:51:42):
for hacking attempts, like, for other stuff, like,
like our power grid.
There was just a an attack on the the, excuse
me, the airlines. Wasn't there a hacker that, like, hacked into the airlines or something like that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's true. Air traffic control? Yeah. That was about a
couple weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah. So we're gonna see more of that. You know, here's the thing, though. I feel like it's gonna be a lot of little instances. It's not gonna be like this big boom where it's everything comes at once, you know. So

(01:52:13):
it's containable. Right? And it's manageable where it's like, okay. You have a problem. Let's contain it. Let's fix it and move on. You You know, one of the scary things about AI too is that, it's gotten so good
that you can't really it's it's hard to tell looking at pictures now what's AI, what's not AI, what's even video too. I mean, you can make a whole movie now

(01:52:34):
strictly AI and, it's it's hard to tell.
You you know what I mean? The little things you could pick up here or there, but still,
and and they're using it for everything. They're they're using it for banners, for for work, artwork, cover art. I mean, the, my my,
audio host platform, podhome.fm,
they they are first for the great. It's a great company and, you know, I I have to plug them because they're a sponsor,

(01:52:57):
but they are absolutely great. And and when I tell you that,
I mean it. I use PodHome. They they're they're
a great company.
The they use AI. You can generate your show titles, your show notes, your your chapter art. You can do episode art, all AI generated, all included with with their their package. It's it's amazing

(01:53:18):
what you could do with the AI. Plus, it does your transcripts, it it it it's amazing stuff. Yeah. You know? But
like you said, it could it there's a potential there for it to really do damage.
You could easily
generate an AI voice of me, you, whoever,

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get on a phone call,
make changes to accounts,
and nobody will pick it up.
Yeah. That's that's scary. That's really scary. You know? And then, of course, you know, you have the Terminator movies where, you know, AI becomes,
sentient and hits that button,
you know, that's not far from a possibility, you know.

(01:54:01):
What do they call that? What was what was what did they call that in,
Skynet in term Termina?
And Yeah. In the Terminator was they called they called it Skynet, is what actually
launched the thermonuclear war that wiped everything out.
I don't know how many people realize this, but, you know, the United States government has a system called Skynet.
Ugh.
Jeez. Yeah. That's creepy. It is. Very, very. I I firmly I firmly blame now people are gonna start going, oh, god. Here he goes.

(01:54:30):
I firmly believe that
the government,
in connection with Hollywood,
intentionally puts information into movies
about technologies and systems that they actually do have
to prepare and to let you know ahead of time
what's coming.

(01:54:50):
They would call that predictive programming.
Yes. I do believe that that's true. I also feel like it helps them control the narrative as well Oh, for sure. Where they could also spin it at any time saying, oh, you just saw that in a movie. You know? It's hocus pocus.
Oh, yeah. For sure. It's it's
it's out there. So
I get I'm just I'm getting way off into,

(01:55:13):
into,
conspiracy Joe now. No. That's okay. That's okay. So it's alright.
But,
so, we're gonna start to wrap this up here because, I'm getting a little goofy now.
So who's someone you deeply respect right now? And, what are they doing that we should pay attention to?
Like celebrity? Well, it could be me if you wanted. You know?

(01:55:36):
Joe, it's you. It absolutely is you. I love everything that you're doing. Thank you. I actually I actually ran a tarot spread, for your show before I popped up because I wanted to give you some good news. Oh, good. That's super. So here's the thing. It's gonna be up. It's gonna be down, but within five to seven months max. Okay? This is max. And it can happen anytime between now and then. I feel like you're gonna get into a really, really good groove,

(01:55:59):
and you're gonna feel confident and think like, money is gonna flow in and your audience is gonna increase, and it's gonna be a really, really good harmonious time for you. So
just keep doing what you're doing and plug away, and you're gonna get there. After the
show, if it's alright, I'm gonna give you a call.
I'm gonna Mhmm. I'm gonna tell you something

(01:56:20):
that I am not at liberty to discuss right now,
but you'll find very interesting.
Is it something that you're planning to do that's gonna happen in, like, five to seven months? Yes. Is is that what it was? Okay. Yes. Alright. Good. And That's awesome. I love that. There's there's some validation there, but but I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you about it after the show because I can't I can't speak about it yet. So Okay. So it's, very interesting. That's amazing.

(01:56:46):
So again
again, you did a read for me that you were spot on about.
So folks Thank you. I appreciate that. You you always make me feel good. Oh, that's I'm just telling you the truth. I mean, it's not, you know, you know, I'm not blowing smoke. You know, it's like somebody once said, you know,
you know, quit smoking blow up my quit quit blowing smoke up my ass. You're gonna you're gonna spoil my auto my autopsy.

(01:57:10):
You know?
So,
that's something my dad used to say. I don't know where he I I've heard it other places too, but I remember my dad saying it. My dad used to say it with such
a such a tone in his voice that it just made you, like,
pause
for a second, you know, it was great.
Next question for you. If you could speak one sentence,
just one sentence into the minds of everyone that's listening, the tens of people that are listening right now,

(01:57:35):
and that it would stick, what would that be?
Buy crypto
and hold it.
Hold it. And when I say when I say buy crypto, I don't mean Bitcoin. Bitcoin's boring. It's slow moving. Get some if you're gonna do something a little bit slower, you want something
more stable like Bitcoin, get Ethereum, get XRP,
get Algorand.

(01:57:57):
Awesome. Perfect. More than one sentence, but good.
Yeah. It's all you know? It's alright. That's fine. Nobody sticks to one sentence. It's fine.
Alright. Last thing is where can the audience go to find you, learn more about you, your your predictions,
and, or maybe even book a session?
So my website is sacredtarotcardreadings.com.
All my socials are on there.

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I also just started a Patreon account where I'm writing a monthly crypto report and putting out crypto predictions,
just for my Patreon
members.
So you can visit that at patreon.com/cryptopsychic.
I gotta check something really, really quick
Sure. On here because
oh, that was you. Okay.

(01:58:42):
What? I got a message on I got a message on TikTok
from Sacred Tarot, and it was you. Okay.
No. I didn't send you a message. That's probably somebody copying my profile. Yeah. I'll send you a screenshot of it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. That that totally is what it is. Yeah. From four days ago. Yeah. Welcome to my world. I I deal with this every day. It's it's
yeah. So you not only have to worry about crypto scams, but you gotta worry about tarot scams too. Yeah. What did what did they say to you? Oh, I, No. They just I feel your vibes or something like that? No. Let me tell you what they said.

(01:59:13):
Because I didn't even open it, you know?
Mhmm. They did they just sent,
well, I don't know. Can you can you see that? I don't know.
No. I can't. What does it say?
It says,
Sacred Tarot, and then the, the address is at
Defy

(01:59:33):
dot l e o x.
Yeah. That's somebody trying to impersonate me to get you to send them crypto. So that's a big that's, like, a big problem that I have too. So that's why Nice. Well I try to educate my audience as best as I can. I will never do that. I don't message anybody.
Perfect. I yeah. So So I I Just screenshot it. Shoot me shoot me the,

(01:59:55):
the profile, the whole profile, like, with their screen name and stuff like that, and I'll work to get that taken down. Oh, yeah. It's all you on the
Yeah. I know. It's all your videos. Yeah. Oh, I know. Yep. Thank you. That's wild.
But, yeah, I'll I'll send you a screenshot of that because I'm just gonna mark it as as a I'm gonna report it actually. So
We have to take a screenshot of the the of it before you report it. Oh, I did. Yeah. I got it. Okay. Good. Send it over to you. Not a

(02:00:22):
problem. Alright. So, all of your information will be in our show notes. Like I said, we had that little glitch earlier, so I wasn't able to reload everything, but it'll all be there, after I do the post work on this show.
And, Marissa, thank you. Really appreciate you being here with us tonight, and, I look forward to doing this again. We gotta we should actually do a segment. We should actually do a regular segment, like, you come on and and do readings.

(02:00:45):
That'll be awesome. We should do that. Whatever works. Yeah. Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Grow this thing. Grow this thing. Yeah.
Absolutely.
Alright. I don't know if you wanna stick around while I close the show out. If not, I will give you a call afterwards if that's if it's not too late for you and, tell you what to do. Yeah. Yeah. Feel free to call me whenever. I'm gonna take a break. I'll I'll thank you for having me, Joe. You're the best. No. No problem. You no. No. No. Not even not even close. Alright. Thank you, Marissa. Thank you. I'll talk to you in a bit. Alright. Alright, folks. Marissa Lee. So great, great segment right there. Had a lot of fun with that. Hope you guys did too.

(02:01:19):
We are going to say our goodnights here at this point, and, you know, just kinda, you know, enjoy the rest of the evening here.
And I'm starving, to be honest with you. I need to eat something. I'm hungry.
And, I hear Charlie barking out there too, so we'll see how all of that goes. Alright, folks. So just wanna give our shout outs to our executive producers, Wayne and Rosanna Rankin, Carolina Jimenez,

(02:01:42):
also to our producer anonymous, Angela. Thank you, all of you, for all that you do for us. We really do appreciate it and, couldn't do this stuff without you guys. Also, just wanna say thank you to our guests tonight.
Great to have you guys. Look forward to doing more. Alright, folks. Don't forget. This is a live show, weeknights, 7PM. We will see you tomorrow night. Make Texas independent again. Go podcasting.

(02:02:06):
Keep a steady stride. And, folks, pray
pray for those folks out in Kerr County. Alright? Have a great night.
Goodbye. See
you tomorrow.

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