Political Scandals and Personal Resilience (Ep. 121)

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But folks, this transmission is coming to you tonight,
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July
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nineteen hundred hours.
And folks, we got a lot of stuff to unpack for you tonight.
From high stakes drama at the DOJ to a scandal that's raising eyebrows
for the final days
of the Biden administration. And then of course, as usual,
we have some
incredible

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guests
lined up for you tonight to bring their unique perspectives and life experiences
to the table.
But before we get into our guests for the night,
let's dive into this firestorm just very, very quickly
of what's going on here at the Department of Justice.

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Things are getting messy there.
A lot more messy than you you find at a reality TV union, I'll tell you that.
Latest chapter in the Jeffrey Epstein saga
has,
FBI director, deputy director, Dan Bongino, and FBI director, Kash Patel, attorney general, Pam Bondi at odds with each other.
And it is absolutely shaking the foundations

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of the Trump administration's law enforcement team. And what's the whole problem? What's the crux of the matter? Well, it's the Epstein files
and the the client list that's been hyped up for years
as the bombshell to end all bombshells.
Dan Bongino,
a guy I respect, incredibly respect. You know, we have mutual experiences in New York City law enforcement. We have experiences,

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that, you know, a lot of people don't have. We also I also served in federal government,
diplomatic security service.
He was secret service.
I don't know him, never met him, but I have a lot of respect for him.
And he is absolutely no stranger whatsoever to calling out what he sees as government cover ups.

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And, from what we're all being told out here is that he is enraged
over Bondi's handling of the Epstein case.
Sources tell us that he stormed out of a heated
White House meeting last week, clashing with Bondi, even
clashing with White House Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles, over what he calls a, quote, lack of transparency.

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Now,
July 7, the d o the DOJ and the FBI dropped a memo claiming that there's no client list.
Nada. Zip, zilch, zero, nothing.
And that Epstein's death in 2019 was definitely a suicide, but come on folks, we know better.
We know better.

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This has absolutely infuriated the MAGA base who
long believed
that the list would expose a web of elite predators.
Bongino is so fed up
that,
rumor has it,
he's considering
quitting, resigning.

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And of course, the whispers that surround that is that Cash Patel might not be far behind him if the pressure continues to mount.
Now just when the DOJ of course says that there is no list,
guess who pops up in the news?
Ghislaine Maxwell.
That's right, Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's
convicted associate.

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Currently serving what, twenty years?
She gets
some news here, she gets some headlines here, she drops a bombshell through her legal team of course.
And says she's ready,
reportedly ready
to release names
tied to Epstein's files.
Names that she claims

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are in the documents that could blow the lid off this whole thing. Now here's the irony of the whole mess.
The DOJ
insists that those documents don't exist.
And if they do exist, they're under some court ordered seal that protects the victims.
So the question here for us to is, you know, what's the truth?

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Is Maxwell or or is is Maxwell bluffing or is it or is there something that the DOJ doesn't want us to see?
Now, the MAGA crowd including figures like Laura Loomer are are are just absolutely screaming
cover up. They're all calling for Bondi's head.
Not literally.
Let's be clear on that. Not literally, figuratively speaking, calling for Bondi's head.

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Well, the president himself is defending her,
and he's out there posting his tweets and, or his ex posts and his truth social posts, you know, urging the base to stop the infighting.
This is a powder keg, folk. This is a political powder keg, and it's only gonna get worse.
And you guys know me, if you've been following this show for any length of time, I am a supporter of the administration.

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I I think Donald Trump has done a fantastic job in in just about every area, but this one I'm not little I'm a little
leery of. I'm concerned about.
It seems to me that Pam Bondi is too busy making the circuit around Fox News auditioning for her next job.
So what comes down the road from that? I'm not sure.

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But, let's talk about something else too really quickly.
I see our guest is waiting in the in the, in in the
the virtual green room, so we'll we'll bring him on here momentarily.
But, I wanna talk to you really quickly about this,
this, this scandal that's just not gonna go away, and it shouldn't go away.
And that's the Biden administration's
auto pen controversy. Now you've heard the chatter about this thing, questions about, you know, whether Joe Biden was, aware of the thousands of pardons and and commutations issued in his final days as president.

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But now the focus seems to have shifted.
Now the focus is on Jeff Zients,
Biden's former chief of staff who reportedly gave the green light to use an auto pen for very high profile pardons, including those for doctor Anthony Fauci and doc and, general Mark Milley.
The New York Times has emails that show Zients approved the auto pen's use late on January

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2025
after a meeting where Biden discussed broad categorical pardons, but didn't personally sign off on every name.
Now president Trump is calling this a constitutional crisis, and he's right.
He's absolutely right.
You have a sitting president of The United States who has no idea what his name is being attached to.

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This may even be treason.
And, of course, he's ordered attorney general Bondi to investigate whether Biden's mental acuity was compromised.
Now, of course, we know that
sending something to attorney general Bondi's desk is like
the, the land of no return.

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But what he's done is he allowed aids to run the show
via auto pen.
The height the the house oversight committee.
They're digging into this.
They're claiming that they've identified a staffer who operated the device.
This isn't just about signatures folks.
This isn't just about signatures. There is no there is no dispute that it is legal for a sitting president to use an auto pen. There's not a problem with that.

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The problem is when you have a sitting president who is in such,
such mental decline
that possibly had no idea who was using the pen,
and what his name was being attached to. So it's really about who was calling the shots in the White House.
That's where this is all that's what this is all about.

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So folks, this is something we're gonna stay tuned to, because this one is far from over. This is this is gonna be a lingering lingering issue.
Now, tonight,
we may come back to this a little bit later on, maybe sometime later this week. We got a packed schedule this week with guests, so we'll see we'll see where it goes. But tonight, we have two incredible guests

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who are going to, share their stories, their experiences, their expertise, not necessarily about what we just spoke about, but just their personal lives,
their professional lives.
Now in just a moment here, we're gonna be joined by David McClam, who is a podcast host,
a coach,
and also a domestic abuse survivor

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who's turned his pain into purpose.
From enduring abuse as as a child and later as a partner, David has built a platform that empowers others
to find their voice and reclaim their strength.
And these are powerful stories, folks.
His journey is one of resilience,

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and he's here now to share how he's helping others transform their trauma
into triumph. Now, you don't wanna miss this. And then in our second hour, we've got Ken w Goode, who's a seasoned attorney, board member of the Professional Bondsmen of Texas.
Ken's argued cases before the Texas Supreme Court, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals,
and he's one of the nation's leading voices on bail reform, immigration enforcement, and public safety.

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With debates that are had raged over these issues, Ken's bringing his decades of experience to break down what's at stake, and how we can balance
justice with security. So, we got a lot of ground to cover tonight.
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It's right up there on your screen. Head over there and check it out. We'll talk more about that later on. So grab yourself a drink, let's settle in, and let's get down to it. Now joining us right now is, David McClamm, again, podcast host who is,

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also a coach,
domestic abuse survivor who has turned his pain into purpose.
David's journey is raw.
It's real,
and it deeply needed
in today's story. He's also a veteran podcaster,
a startup coach,
who helps others launch with clarity, with confidence.

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And, and also, you know, if you're into true into true crime and storytelling,
you will probably recognize his work from the long running show, A Day with Crime.
Now today, we we'll talk about surviving unimaginable,
surviving the unimaginable, speaking the unspoken, and why storytelling
can save lives. Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to welcome David McClam

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to the Joe Russo. David, are you out there with us?
There you go. Alright. Can you hear me? Yes. I am here. There we go. Thank you for having me on the show, man. I appreciate it. Hey, no problem brother. It's great to have you here. Welcome aboard. This is, you know, the usual cruise here.

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The the everybody that's watching, the the tens of us that are here watching right now.
But, you know, I've been following your story and, been checking out your,
your profiles. I've been checking out some of the shows that you've already been on. I've checked out some of the stuff that you've done, and you have a compelling story.
And I really I just had a story a story that I really wanted to make sure that the audience came to know and came to came to hear.

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But before we get into all the serious stuff,
alright, I I I gotta ask you a couple of couple of quick little questions here that will set the stage for the rest of the evening. Because depending on how you answer it,
depends on if we continue with the conversation. Okay? We're just gonna throw it out there like that. Alright?
Alright. Alright.
What is something that most people don't know about you but should?

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I don't know. There's a lot. I think everybody knows everything about me. Probably that I just I haven't asked before.
Everybody says that. If you know me, yeah. But, probably that I'm a serious video gamer. Really? I've been on and off for years, but I'm just getting back into it now. A lot of controversy going around Destiny two, but I play a lot of that. So probably that I am a video gamer. I guess people look at me don't think that I would be, but I do that. Well, you know what they say. They say, and and you can use this one, because I use a lot. Alright? And you know, like,

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I don't know if you're if I don't know if you're a bible guy or not, but, you know, you know, Solomon said, there's nothing new under the sun. So if I thought of it, someone thought of it before me, so I'm passing it on to you, you can use it.
You're right. The more complex the mind,
the greater the need for the simplicity of play.
There you go. I like that. Hold on to that. The more complex the mind, the greater the need for the simplicity of play. So enjoy the video games. Have a good time with it. Knock yourself out. You know, I I wish I had time that I could actually sit down and play video games, you know. It's it's it's just hard.

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I I used to. I I used to love to play video games, but
I am so far behind in the trends of what's out there now. I wouldn't even know where to start.
Yeah. I don't I don't have a lot of that, but I have a 15 year old that's at home that still has to play with dad. So I try to make sure I incorporate that a lot. But, yeah, I don't have a lot of time anymore like I used to about five, ten years ago. Mhmm. But I try to fit it in. It it also helps the psyche. So it releases

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any stress that you're feeling for that time period. So, yeah. Yeah. No. I I hear you. I got you. Alright. Last one on the, icebreaker stuff. But,
this is an this is the important one. Alright?
What's your go to beverage to unwind at the end of the day?
Usually a Mountain Dew. I don't do a lot of drinking but I love Mountain Dew. Mountain Dew? I mean, I haven't had Mountain Dew in years.

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That's like They're making all these flavors now so I keep having to trial the new ones. Oh, are they really? I I'm so out of touch with that. It's like I have no idea.
That's wild. It's like I I remember it's like it's like drinking sugar water at one point. It was so so sweet. It was really hard to take sometimes. Yeah. But they've tamed the sugar down a little bit, but yeah. Just a little. Right? Alright.

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Well Well, David, again, thank you for being here with us tonight.
I'm just gonna I'm kinda, like, just dive right into this here because the story that I I I listened to one of the shows that you were on,
yesterday, and I finished listening it to to it this morning.
You've gone through some tremendous
experiences in the areas of abuse.

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You survived domestic abuse,
as a child,
and as an adult,
which is
we'll get into a little bit more detail on that later because it's it's it's fascinating when you think that, you know, men do get abused in relationships, you know, and it's something that, you know, most men won't talk about because it's somehow emasculating

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to talk about those things. But but that's important. It it's very important.
But when did you first realize that your story needed to be shared publicly?
Ever since I was able to tell it. I think if you wanna look at the last few years,
probably over the last five because there's a lot of things that's been coming out about men's mental health,

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about men being the number one,
the number one human beings to commit suicide.
There's been a couple of songs that's been written about
manhood,
and I've always stated that or thought that if I was able to share my story. And if there's some other guy out there that had this, maybe that would give him the courage to come forward.
Because a lot of us as men do get abused, and I know we're made fun of because we're usually bigger than the woman and and the whole nine and machismo and all that good stuff.

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But I just felt like my story needed to be shared to help somebody else
be able to tell those and hopefully,
release that stress intention so that we have less men committing suicide. Now why do you think why do you think it's it's so difficult for men to come forward and talk about these things?
Especially in my race being African American, I have friends who's also Hispanic,

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it's the way that we're primarily raised. Right? We're supposed to be the tough guy. We're not supposed to cry. We're not supposed to show any emotion in front of the women.
My mom never raised me that way, but you kinda feel that from all your boys and all that kind of stuff. Sure. Sure. So just men over in general
has been made to feel like that we are weak
if we have stories like these or if we have been physically or mostly abused by a woman because we're supposed to be the alpha. And so I'm here to break that to say that is not true. You're probably more of a man for being able to share that Mhmm. Than what you thought. Yeah. I I know what you're talking about too. Because, like, my like, growing up, you know, I I grew up in

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Brooklyn, New York, you know,
Italian
family. You know, my dad
my dad was one of those guys that was,
you know, you fell down, got hurt. It was, hey, get up.
Mhmm. Walk it off. No crying.
Deal with it. You know? And then, of course, mom is, oh, come here. You be new. You know?

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It's just the way
it is. You know? But,
but yeah. But men yeah. You're right. You know, guys are are raised from the beginning.
I don't know how about now so much, but at least my generation, you know, Gen x, you know, we were raised to be,
you know, just shrug it off, move on, pick up the pieces, and keep going.

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Not the easiest thing in the world.
It's not. And unfortunately, what happens with all of that is,
I guess what people think, especially women, is that, okay, well, he got over it, so it's gone away. And we've Right. What really happens is we compartmentalize that. That's right. Yeah. And then it affects
every area of our lives, whether it's relationship with women, raising your children, just your everyday
social life, it affects that because these are things that you're still internalizing. You're holding in. You've had no outlet to let it out.

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And sometimes that ends up in suicide or you murder someone else or you become a domestic abuser yourself cause you have no way of inter of letting that out. Yeah. Yeah. You're absolutely right.
Are you do you feel comfortable sharing more about who your abuser was and and how old you were when it all started?
Sure. Absolutely. No problem. So

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on my parody and my abuser was my father. All started for me for I remember about four. It could have been earlier than that, but I remember from four up.
On the domestic side, it was an ex wife of mine,
that I had been with,
since high school.
So, basically, on my parental side, my father is very abusive.

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I believe that's why my mother to this day is in her grave. She died five years ago just in her middle sixties, about 66 when she passed away
because of all the beating that she did take. I remember things like being hung out of windows on my dad.
My mom, if her if his spaghetti wasn't hot enough,
that was a beating. And then the isolation that went from that, right, was was because the fact that we had no family around us. Well, the military helped with that because he was in the marine corps, so he was stationed

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outside of Jersey City where he was at that time. So there was nobody that was there that we could go to to actually
talk to about or help save us
from that.
And that's what begins for me. So yeah.
Do you think that,
that type of abuse is more prevalent in
families with military background?

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I don't know back then if it was,
but I think it could have been because of the rules wasn't really
being followed. Right? So there is a clause in the military
code that you could be honorably,
dishonorably discharged if you are abusing your wife. Oh, really? I think now in this current day and age, they put a lot more stock into that. But my father was in the marine corps. He was abusing us. He was a full on alcoholic and drug addict and still managed to walk out with an honorable discharge. Wow. I respect the military. I still have people in there. But my mom always said, you know, at least that day's marine corps

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wasn't anything. She follows full of BS because they never protected us.
I gotcha. So what what were some of the, turning points that you,
through throughout your journey in healing?
And, how did you manage the long term effects?
You still go through those. Right? I'm 52 years old now, and I I still go through those by some things I see or hear are triggered.

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What you do is you learn to do what I'm doing now. You learn that talking about it actually helps.
Because the one thing that I always felt for a long period of time, and I'm sure a lot of other men feel the same way is, I can't tell this story because I'm the only man out here that's probably going through this. And so one day I sat down and says, well,
if I went through this, there's gotta be other men that's going through this too. How many of us out there is there?

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And so that helped me my healing journey. Let me be the first to go and try to tell this story. So for the last year, I've been on this mission to go on as many talk shows as I can or podcast to get this message out so that other men can be helped in that.
So from there, just dealing with that, I did go to counseling for a while with that.

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Looking at the life that I overall
have right now also factors into that, my children,
how my children are treated, whether I'm here for them or not, all of that goes into that.
Now you you know, you also do podcasting.
I do. Okay. So, plug your show and and tell us about what you're doing on your show.
So the current show now is True Crime, Mothers, and Extraordinary People. You hit on a day with crime, which was my very first show. That was about eight years ago.

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My oldest daughter and I started that show, and then she moved on to something else. True Crime Matters, The Story of People has been around now going three years. Mhmm. Because as you know, in the podcasting world, you have to reinvent yourself, especially
genre because there's a million of them out there. I yeah. I'm so I I was actually looking at, I I think I think it was on was it on Podmatch, I think? Or it was another site like that

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that, you'll they broke down
the types of the categories of podcast, and and just the amount of true crime podcast is just astounding.
And but yet, they're incredibly popular.
They they do they do get a lot of draw even though there are so many of them.
They they they have their own little niche. They they fit in exactly what and they have they find the right people for it, which is fantastic. I when I start I started doing this stuff back in 2015

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before it was called podcasting. It was called Internet radio.
And, so I I did a show back up in New York with a bunch of friends of mine. We had a great time. It was a lot of fun.
And then, moved down here to Texas,
a few years ago and, started another podcast where I just did bible study.
And, it was incredibly
difficult to do bible study podcast. Incredibly difficult.

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It it
and, I I did it for about three years. I took a break from it,
because I I I was starting to come down with what I call preacher's block.
You know, like I I was just I was like just thinking, like, man, I was struggling to put put studies together and lessons together. So I need a break. Right? So,
then
this

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thing
manifested itself. And I started doing this podcast, and I started doing this in January,
this past January. So the idea was born in November, it started in January.
And, all of that just to say this, is that,
as far as the audience goes,
where I am now with this show
took me, as far as downloads and and and whatnot and and subscriptions

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and followers and whatnot,
took me
over a year and a half with the Bible study podcast to get to. Which is a shame because, you know, it's, you know, the the Bible is an important thing to study. It's important to know what the word of God says, but,
you know, I get it. It's it's not not the most popular thing you wanna, oh, oh, what do you listen to? I'm listening to Bible study podcast.

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I get it, you know, I I understand it, but,
I still do the Bible study. I do it on Sundays. I do a a just a a solo show just on that. Just a Bible study every Sunday.
But, you know, it's it's important. But, yeah, it's just the the amounts of of podcast that are out there and true crime stuff, I mean, it it just
blows you away.

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And,
and you've talked about your experiences
on your podcast.
And,
why did you feel like like podcasting was the right medium to get your story out?
Well, to be honest with you, I never visited doing a podcast. My daughter bugged me for six months.
And she said, come on, dad. Let's do this because we're all in a true crime. And then we talked to OJ case all the time. Mhmm. And I'm like, finally, she bugged me. I told my wife, I said, fine. We'll be done in six months, the less than five years.

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So after I did that and she left, I'm like, I gotta keep going. I think that because
podcasting is the future of radio. Agreed. I've been I've been told that anchors
that it's been anchors for thirty, forty years, That because of the way that we do things on podcast and our stuff is always saved, you can go back to it. They think this is the future. Then I looked at how many people actually listens to different podcasts, and true crime, as you said, is right up there. There. Mhmm. So I figured that I can use my platform, not only get my story out, but other people's stories out there that may never be heard,

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of survival
that would help somebody else. So that's why I chose podcasting as that medium to do that. Do you is your podcast recorded or live? I don't because I don't know if you heard what I said at the beginning of the show. Yeah. I know. You you didn't like Brothers Like Me, but, yeah, it's it's recorded. I'm considering doing a live show here eventually,
but, yeah, right now it's it's recorded. Now the reason that I do go recorded is because I can get a lot of things out there at one time. Mhmm. But then I do have people that come on my show for the extraordinary

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person segment
that maybe says something they want taken out or they don't know how far they wanna go. So editing that
helps. And as you know, when you're live, live, everything happens happens. So That's right. That's that's why I like it.
Put you you you put not only not only yourself on the spot, but your guest. So it's Right. Absolutely. You know, it it's one of those things though. But I I what I like about doing a live podcast,

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is the fact the energy's different.
Mhmm. You know?
And it it does I think, anyway, it does force you to do things
different. It does force you to to do things
better.
You know, like I am constantly changing. I've like I've been doing this for a while, you know, ten years basically, you know, if you start from 2015 or so.

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Yeah. And I'm still looking for the right way to do it. You know, the right approach to it. I I don't think you ever really get
to that finished moment, but,
but doing it live for me, it's just like the energy is different. It the flow is better. And and and for me, my personally, I get lazy when I'm doing a recorded show.

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You know? It's like, I can do it later. I'll do it later.
This, I'm committed to be here at 07:00 weeknights,
you know? Right. And
and I I was telling I was I was telling a a friend of mine yesterday actually that,
I have to learn to change certain things that I say because I'm a man of my word.

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So if I'm doing my show, and I say I'll see you tomorrow,
even if I had nothing planned for tomorrow,
well, damn. I gotta come on the show tomorrow. Because I said I'm coming. You know? I gotta do a show now. And, that spirals into, like, this this particular show, I don't I don't know. I'm not sure what your frequency is, or how often you publish episodes, but this originally started just as a,

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I'm gonna do this whenever I feel like it.
Recorded, that type of thing. And then it became
once a week, set. And then it be kit recorded. Then it became twice a week, set, recorded. And then it became, hey, let's let's let's try it live again. Let's try let's see how that works. And and then, you know, like anything, especially like a government program, once you start, it's like the definition of eternal life, it never ends. It's just, you know, once it gets going. You can't stop it. But,

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and then it grew it just like all of a sudden, then then I met Alex,
Sanfilippo from pod match,
and
all of a sudden, like, I signed up for that thing,
it just,
like, blew up.
Not I'm not like patting backs or bragging, but I I was talking I have I have a couple of folks that helped me produce the show,

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and,
one of them, who I talk about frequently, her we call her anonymous Angela, which is kind of ironic, you know, anonymous Angela, you know.
She said, yesterday that that she's getting overwhelmed with all the
requests for interviews
that have been coming through. So it's like, if you look at our schedule,

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I'm packed, I'm booked all the way through until September.
You know, and it's like, you know, I I didn't really plan on the show being a a so a strictly interview show.
I wanted to
I wanted to vent my my frustrations
in politics
and stuff, but I you know? But, but it's a great platform. You know, podcasting does you could reach so many people. I have met, and I'm sure you have too,

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so many incredibly
talented people,
so many incredibly intelligent people,
people that have such amazing stories that probably just in everyday life, you never would come across,
and you would probably never meet. And I feel so I feel so fortunate, so blessed
to meet people, especially like you, and your story, and and from what I've known about you, and just in in my research, you know, then sitting down to talk to you about this stuff is just is huge for me.

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You know, we probably at some never would have crossed paths in any way, and we wouldn't be able to have a dialogue like we're having.
That's podcasting.
That's the blessings of podcasting.
You you find those voices out there that may not, you know, don't have a national platform
that aren't on Fox News, CNN, MSNBC,
you know, all the other stuff

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that have more things to say that are more valuable than most of the people that you see on Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, and all that. You know? And life experiences like yours, which is just so incredible to to see how you've worked through it, and you've gotten,
you you've turned a negative situation into something positive where you're not only
healing yourself, but you're also helping others get through it. And I and I and from what I see, that's how your podcast serves people. Whether it's you're doing a true crime stuff or not, it it just

(34:51):
the resilience
that you demonstrate in going through life and and taking that negative and turning into something positive and and building a a,
a life that is,
I'm trying to think of the right word for it, but
that is
so helpful and beneficial to others
is is a true testament to to to grace and

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and to yourself, and to your strength. And I I thank you for that, and I applaud you for it.
Oh, man. Thank you. And you know
long winded day. Podcasting especially and everything else is definitely
a passion of mine. And I've always said this to people when I coached them. If you're getting into podcast for the wrong reason, don't do it. And I think the wrong reason for that is you're looking to make a bunch of money. I've been around nine years. I'm just now starting to heavily monetize things at this point. Yeah. It's not gonna happen. You're not gonna get rich being a podcaster. Not at least unless unless

(35:45):
unless you are unless you're Joe Rogan and you get flooded with some corporate back end, you're not gonna make a lot of money. I think You have to bring to them, but I do. I've said that just said, we're not Joe Rogan, so we're not,
but I do it for that reason. You know, the cases that I do on the show, I have a passion about.
I have another podcast called Distinguished with a,

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I have a cohost, which is Eldonah Humphrey. We do only missing and murder cases over there. We wanna talk about the cases that no one else is talking about to get some ears and eyes
on that situation. So it totally is a passion of mine. And being able to weave my story into it
is why I have the third leg. So you always hear me say at the end of my show, I'm the only three faceted podcast of its kind because I am. No one else does true crime, interview authors, or talk to a certain people all in one show. So my show is like having three different

(36:33):
shows every week because you never have anything
the same. But when I start looking at all these people,
and Alex and Filippo,
he's a god of what he does. You know, I've met him. I was I've been with him a long time. I was with him way back when they had a free tier.
And then he went to the payment structure.
And I was gonna write him and say, dude, how come you went to the payment structure, but he beat me to it because he released a video that said that he felt that if he gave everything away for free, no one had an investment in that. So the platform would not really grow the way he wanted it. Smart. Very smart. And I had to respect that because that's true. If you're paying him that money to use that platform, you're going to use it. Mhmm. And I'm glad that he's there because I would have never met you or the extraordinary people that I have met that put their stories out there of trafficking, domestic abuse. I've heard all kinds of things. Yeah. So that's why I do it. Oh, it's and and

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it's it's a great medium. I I love it. It's it's
I I enjoy doing this. Like, I work a regular forty hour a week job, you know,
down here. And
the highlight of my day is getting here and sitting down. You know, despite little technical problems that pop up, you know, here and there, and and, you know, the people, you know, the guests you booked that don't show up.

(37:47):
You know, and and you're sitting there with your finger up your nose going, okay, what do I do now?
Right. I've been there.
I know that's why I that's why what I and piece of advice for anybody that does that that's looking to do podcasting stuff, even if you have a guest booked,
do show prep.
Have a backup show ready to go because if you if if especially doing it live, you you don't wanna sit there and say, okay, well, we have a guest and it's ten after seven, they're not here yet.

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I'm already streaming live.
Do I cut the show at ten minutes and say, okay, we'll see Nicki.
No. You gotta go on. The show must go on, my friends. So so prepare. Be prepared. Like, I have
I have a a whole two hour show sitting here right in front of me that if if if you if you weren't able to make it and and our next guest isn't able to make it, I'm ready to go. I I got it I got it, you know. I prefer doing this. This is much more fun,

(38:39):
you know. Right. But,
you know, it's a great thing. So so I know you you do help guys, launch podcast and and get going. So,
what's the biggest misconception that new podcasters have that you that you think?
The biggest one is that they're gonna get rich. Right. Yeah. We covered that. Yeah. And I think the second biggest one is they don't consider

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how much time it's going to take to produce a show. Beautiful.
This is the point you're doing it on your own. Yeah. Beautiful. And then,
you know, because you get flooded. I don't know if you did, but nowadays,
new podcasters come in and they're getting hit with it. Hey, man. Let me edit your show. A $100 an episode. I mean, they haven't even cut one episode yet, so they don't even know if they're gonna like it, but you're already pitching this. Yeah.

(39:25):
So that's why I teach you. These are your two big misconceptions. If these are the things
that you don't have, you don't have the time, or
you think you're gonna get rich, this is not gonna be for you. Yeah. Exactly.
What's the most important investment someone can make if they're serious about launching a podcast?
Your audio equipment. Mhmm. Yeah. So

(39:45):
Yeah. I'm crazy about the audio stuff, man. I, like,
yeah. I had a I had a couple episodes.
Well,
I don't wanna say a couple episodes ago because it's further back than that. But, I also stream
the audio live as well.
So it and it goes across a lot of the platforms now that because a lot of the new, audio platforms
do take the live stream and

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and and, and distribute it. So it's, it's it's a it's emerging. It's great. I love it.
But,
one day one show I did, I was in a rush because I got delayed at work, and I and I had to get back here for for the 07:00 start. I had a guest lined up and and all that stuff.
And,
he got there early. He was checked in before I even got into the studio, you know. So it was, it was one of those rush things. And I

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did I messed something up with the audio stream, and it sounded
terrible.
Like, it sounded like I was speaking in a tin can.
You know? The audio was just terrible. And,
my host platform and I'm and they're they're actually a a paid sponsor for my show now, which is great.
So it's it's podhome.fm.

(40:54):
It's a great platform.
It's it's one of the newer platforms that are out there that you they they give you so many features and so many things as far as,
building your show, generating. So they give you a website. They give you a light they give you a, an audio player you can put on your website.
They use AI to generate title, show notes. They incorporate podcasting two point o criteria so that you could actually,

(41:19):
stream,
cryptocurrencies
Oh, wow. During the course of your show. So, like, if you're if if you're listening to the show and you're like, hey, I I like this, you can hit a little button on your thing. And if you're on your phone and if you're, if you have a crypto wallet connected to your account,
you could
send a they call it a boost. You can just send a boost of a couple of sats, whatever it is, Satoshis, which is like a micropayment for bit for Bitcoin.

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And you can make those little donations and contributions during the course of the show, and it pops up live
on your end. So you can see that you're getting these instant reactions, you know, which is great. It's it's wonderful. Wow.
And you get all that. It's it's $15.99
a month, which is really inexpensive compared I've seen other platforms charging two, three times that for the same things.
So it's a great platform. So but I know the owner. Like, we we became really good friends, and,

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and he's based over in Europe. So he's in Switzerland, I think, or Sweden. Switzerland.
So I,
after the show, I I sent him a text. And we used signal. I sent him a text through signal.
I said, that's it. I'm done. I'm throwing everything out the window. Screw this. I'm not doing that. I use other language, but, you know, I was like, I'm, you know, I'm not doing this anymore. I'm done. This is the worst. I I I it sounds horrible. If I was listening to this, if I tuned into this podcast and I heard it tonight, I would never listen to this guy again. You know, because it was just that bad, at least in my assessment.

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And he just wrote back very and and you could tell because I spoke to him too. I know his tone. He was very calm. I'm a be like a raving lunatic.
And he's very calm. He goes, your audio is
90%
better than any audio podcast I've ever heard.
You know, so just stick with it. And that's all he said.

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Excuse me.
Apologize there.
I forgot to hit the dump button.
So,
so yeah. So, yeah. Your audio equipment is key. I I I
I can't tell you how much money I've spent on
microphones
and mixers and
headsets because I want it to sound good. Because that to me

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keeps people coming back. I'm not gonna wanna sit there and listen to a podcast. It sounds like you're talking like this. I'm not gonna wanna do that, you know? Or
I don't know if this will I don't know if this will come through or not, but,
where is it?
Let's see. If the guy
Maybe if the guy sounds like this, I don't I don't know. If if I'm not gonna listen to that.

(43:52):
So, but actually, I did do a I did do a show one night. I was I did a recorded show with with a friend of mine, and I recorded it with a pitch up voice. So it sounded like a little like little troll.
And,
I I thought that nobody else heard it. I just thought it was just between us, but it actually recorded.
So,
yeah. So it was pretty weird. But at any rate, and I'm I'm I know I'm taking up all your time.

(44:15):
Because I was stoked for this conversation. I could not wait to talk to you tonight. This was this was great.
No. No. I figured. So,
do you recommend that podcasters edit their own shows? Or is it better to outsource? I know you mentioned it before about how the new podcasters get inundated with, hey, we'll edit your show, we'll boost your show, we'll send you show this, that, and that.
What do you think about that?

(44:36):
So I say you need to do both. And here's what I actually train.
Part of my production,
service is I will edit your show and master and all that stuff. Mhmm. But also teach people that you also need to learn at least the basis of editing.
Because if you don't know how to edit, then you can't tell me how to edit your show or what you like.
So I started off by editing my show,

(44:57):
figuring out plugins and all that kind of stuff, how that works. Right. And I am making tutorials now because my production company is I've, I have Justice Productions.
The website's just not going up, but I'm gonna have tutorials on how to do that stuff. Now I say both because you can find somebody that can edit your show to your liking. I've tried this twice,
and it's failed both times. That's why I still edit my own show. Okay.

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Then you should outsource that if you have the the money to do so.
So
I did try to outsource that one time.
One guy that did it swore he was the master at doing this, and it was so much bass in my voice that it gave me a headache. Uh-huh. That was something for my car just rumbled it, and it wasn't leveled properly.
And then there was one other company that came kinda close,

(45:44):
but didn't hit. You know, when you do this as long as me and you have your name and your reputation on the line and the way your show sounds,
you know, if you have an an intro theme, I believe, that if you've had the intro theme for a while,
people should know from the first couple of beats that is your show. Right. And so that's why I say, don't go changing the theme music all the time because then you're gonna mess up who knows your show. Right. But, yeah, for a fact, you have to,

(46:09):
be able to do that. So your audio equipment is key. Learn how to edit and outsource that.
That that's that's really key to say. I I am terrible at editing
video.
I I I don't have the greatest software for it,
because originally when I started doing this, I didn't have any intention of doing videos. I just wanted to do audio.
But but I realized that, you know, the trend is video. And, you know, if you wanna get your if you really wanna get your message out there, you gotta get your video going. So I I attended, oh, well, I'll just do, like, maybe a short video and then cut it and just go straight to audio and, you know, that if you wanna follow the rest of the show, go to audio.

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So I never really invested in anything as far as, excuse me, the video software goes.
I'm trying to now because I'm realizing that, you know, this is
an important medium to be on, for podcast or vidcast now.
So, I'm I'm learning how to do the the video editing. I'm not great at it, like I said, so I just
another reason to do live shows. I don't have to do that.

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Well, I kinda give you a tidbit here.
Even if you well, I'll give you one. And this is the one I plug them all the time. It'll be in all of my material.
The service that I use is Riverside.
I've been with them a long period of time too. Now Riverside, when they first started, was only for audio. Mhmm. They were kinda horrible at the beginning because we just figured it out. But today, they are a full fledged production company. Yeah. You can actually do your live show directly from Riverside.

(47:35):
And the neat thing about that too is you don't have to know how to,
how to edit a video because you can do it by simply using a Word document.
So all your jump cuts and edits and intros and all that stuff is put in directly from that. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. For a a lot of people I work with, I say, hey. If you want a simple way of doing this, kinda get the basis while you're learning, use Riverside. And especially if you're gonna do interview podcasts like I do, they're built for that.

(48:01):
So if you get all the Internet garbling and all all that stuff that you hear, you don't hear that in the final production because of the way that it goes up to your browser and come back to the cloud. Right. A lot of clients I've had use Zoom, and I walk into their studio, I'm like, I'm frowning. I'm like, Zoom is not it. Yeah. No. Zoom is not for this. So So we gotta get you in the right direction. But, yeah, we're looking to Riverside. We're looking to do that. You'll find out, you know, I'm not trying to take you away from Rumble or anything like that. Well, you can't because I'm I'm invested in Rumble. I'm a stockholder, so I'm not going anywhere. Oh, okay. Well, there you go.

(48:32):
Full disclosure, folks. Full disclosure.
I see this too. I'm like, I'm just not even looking to rumble myself. I heard about it, but now that I'm on your show and I see how well it works.
But yeah, Riverside now is covering all those bases. So I actually I have a Riverside account. I have a basic account. I used it when,
when I first started doing the stuff doing the video stuff,

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because,
I wasn't comfortable with doing live video yet, so I was doing recorded stuff. And I did use it for for a brief period of time, and then, then I came over to Rumble. Rumble's great. I I love I love the platform. It has its issues. I mean, it's a right now, it's a,
you could you could stream you can do direct stream to, like, OBS and things like that with it.

(49:16):
You get your stream keys. You can use other other software. Or you can use their,
their their web based studio, which is what I'm using right now.
The only issue that I have with the web based studio is is Internet connection.
Right. You know? So you gotta be careful. Like, I had to I had shows where I looked like
a a colorful blob sitting on the screen,

(49:37):
you know, because my Internet speed wasn't great, you know, or I was having problems with the Internet. But I what I found is is before I do a show, I shut everything off, and I just let everything kinda refresh itself.
Right. I shut it off for a couple of minutes, then then start up the computer again, start up I use the browser in,
in a private setting, private mode.

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And another very important thing, folks, if you're gonna use this stuff, and you probably know this too, if you're going to do a show like this and you're using a web based browser to do it,
don't do it behind a VPN.
Yes.
Okay.
So it took me it took me a lot of frustration to learn that lesson. Nobody told me anything. I just figured that out on my own. But, but but the the platform is coming a long way. There's a lot of great stuff down the road for it. I'm not gonna pitch rumble right now. I do that at the end of the show. So

(50:31):
so it's,
but it's a great platform and I love it. I love the I love this the free speech nature of it. Like, I did a show a couple of weeks ago,
with,
with a woman for she was a nurse up in Canada,
and,
we were talking about
alternative
treatments for things like cancer. We were talking about alternative theories behind what cancer is and where it comes from and how it's how it,

(50:56):
how it affects your body and so on and so forth.
And,
did the show,
and YouTube
gave me a strike for passing out medical misinformation.
They took the show down, and I got penalized for it, but yet it's still up here on Rumble.
You know, Rumble is a free speech platform. It's not gonna censor you unless you have cost

(51:20):
you you really really push the issue, you know? You know? Right. Talk about I mean, I can tell you this too. I had a fifteen year career with YouTube. Oh, did you really? I was a video game influencer. You ever heard of the game rock band? Mhmm.
So I was the number one that was gonna say for that game. Yeah. My channel's still up to Cena's Corner,

(51:41):
but everything that you use for that game, guitars, all that kind of stuff from third party people came to my house first. Uh-huh. And I and I did a review on it and put that up. That's nice. Well, man, when I started doing true crime podcasting,
well, I should say before then, YouTube started making decisions that was,
shutting out the smaller YouTuber.
You know, you had to have all these listens now and all these likes or whatever Yeah. Be monetized.

(52:05):
When I got into true crime,
I was like, I'm never gonna have a podcast on YouTube because I there are certain things I believe I shouldn't have to censor
if I'm talking about a true crime situation. Agreed. Dealing with a pedophilic situation, you should be able to call that out.
Absolutely. You can't right. You can't say that. You can't say that. You can't mention the pandemic.

(52:26):
You can't you you can't even say suicide. You have to say unalived or whatever the case is. So hats off to all of my people that I do watch as YouTube podcast or YouTube podcast with true crime. But I said I can't do this. Yeah. Because I know I would never get monetized. I'll be slipping all over the place because
the passion behind that case,
I feel like if you don't use the words that you need to use, you're never gonna get through to the audience of how important that case was or the outcome of that. Exactly. Exactly. That that nest the whole thing with censorship too. It's just it's just

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first of all, it dumbs down people, I think.
And and I say it in in the sense of this because
if if you if you can't
look, words, let me back up this way. Words mean things. Okay?
Words are important.
And I tell people all the time, use your words.
You know, don't don't
don't change it just because it'll bother somebody. That's that's why this show, my my my little

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tagline of the show is like nothing is sacred watered down to a PC.
You know,
say what you gotta say. You know, you wanna call somebody an asshole, call them an asshole. I don't, you know, I don't care. You know, I don't that that's just the way it is. If you think I'm an asshole, just say it. It's fine. I you know what? I'll just go like this. Okay.

(53:46):
So are you.
You know, go right back to it. But yeah. But but censorship, you know, it it it it creates this false safe place for people, and it's,
you know, yeah. You you may be in that safe place on YouTube or or a platform like that,
but when you're out there in the real world and somebody comes at you and says something that you don't like, what are you gonna do? You gonna sit there in the corner and cry? You gonna suck your thumb? Give you a little baby?

(54:10):
Should I change it to you? I'm
I'm calling my show too because everybody was afraid at one time of getting canceled.
Mhmm. And I've I've dealt with a lot of sensitive topics on my show from sometimes politics to LGBTQIA
and whatever, and I tell you exactly how I feel about those things. But I've also said these things to people. I says, who would you rather listen to? Would you rather listen to somebody that's gonna tell you what you want to hear and agree with you and I give you their opinion, or someone is gonna tell you exactly how they feel, give you their opinion, and you can have a conversation about it. Yeah. Then you're not misleading anybody,

(54:41):
and you can have that intelligent I think the reason why citizenship exists is because nobody has intelligent
adult conversations anymore. All of us gotta end up in f u's and get out of here, and you're no longer friends. Me and you are friends. I should be able to come to you and say, hey, Joe. Here's how I feel. You may say I disagree, but now I can listen to your reasoning, and then we can agree to disagree, but at the end of the time at the end of it, we're still buddies. So Yeah. I I did a show with a guy, and and you should you should try to track the track him down. I got him through PodMatch. His name was, he was a doctor, Gregory Adaka.

(55:11):
Okay. Great guy. What a conversation we had. And, you know,
we aligned on a lot of things.
We had a great conversation,
and there were points where we disagreed on things.
But it didn't degenerate
into name calling. It didn't degenerate into anything. Why? Because, okay, you don't agree with me?
Crack a joke about it,

(55:32):
and keep talking.
Right. Just keep it moving. You know? And, ever since that show when we when when we brought that up, I added that little phrase, keep talking at the end of my shows, you know, because I wanna make sure people keep talking.
Don't shut don't shut down because you don't like what somebody else is telling you. Keep talking.
You know,
get past it. Grow the hell up. You know,

(55:56):
it's just that's just the way it is. So, let me, let me move on here because our our my my 08:00 guest has already checked in and he's he's waiting in the room there. We still got ten minutes to go for that. But let me,
let me get into this because I wanted to ask you. I was listening to one of the podcast you were on. You were talking about this,
this,
domestic abuse crime that took place between two bodybuilders.

(56:18):
Alright? I didn't get to hear the whole thing. Alright? Now I understand that that there was that, this was something was it was it was in the news. It was not something that was, like, just, you know, off to the side. It was actually a mainstream
news story.
Two bodybuilders,
I think she
was abusive towards him, and and she ended up killing him. Is am I right on that? Or did I miss something? So there's a couple of them. I think the one I was talking about on that one was, She Hulk. I forget her real name now, but she was a bodybuilder. She was real jacked, but her husband also

(56:53):
was a bodybuilder.
And there was domestic,
abuse going on there. And she had reached out and said, hey,
that he was abusing her. And
I guess at the end, she decided that she was going to leave him,
and he couldn't put up with that.
And she was such a young up and comer
that the

(57:13):
messages that poured in for her was, like, her agent was like, man, I told you we was gonna be top of this world. She was preparing for this world bodybuilding championship, and he ends up killing her and killing himself.
There was another one where there was a female that was abusing her husband and the same thing kinda happened. I had used that
because I think I was talking about

(57:34):
how when a man goes and says that a woman has abused him,
like in my case, cops laughed at me. You know, I'm six foot four and a half, two forty. Mhmm. But I was like, there's women out there that can kick my butt or your butt. Sure. She was one of them. Right? So you kinda like, so what happens when somebody that big
that could also take you out? What does the cops do then? You know, what do they say to you? Is it, well, there's my wife. Look at her. She's eight times bigger than me.

(57:59):
But also to show that that does happen in that part of the world. So as well. It and it it's it's a crazy story too because the,
again, both professional bodybuilders,
and I think he was actually
bigger than she was.
Yeah.
Well, actually, she had grown to be bigger than him body wise. Yes. That's that's what I mean. I I don't I don't mean popularity wise. I'm saying, like, physically. They they know she she was actually very, very big Was for for the woman. Was is I think what ended up getting to him was the fact that she was gaining more popularity

(58:31):
than he was. I see. Now that was her husband and coach, but he had been in the bodybuilding
longer than she had.
And so now the sheer thing that she was being looked at as, you're gonna be the next great thing, and she had ages of people pushing that,
he couldn't deal with that. Uh-huh. And so Okay. He's been around that that's probably why the abuse began. There was some jealousy there, and that's why we have the unfortunate situation that we do. I gotcha. I gotcha.

(58:58):
Alright. So, let's see. Who's somebody that you deeply respect right now? And what are they doing that we should be paying attention to?
Deeply respect my mother. She's no longer with us. Okay. But she was the one that raised me.
She took the brunt of all the beatings that I knew I would have gotten.
But yet and still, she never had hate in her heart and always told me that I could do whatever

(59:21):
I wanted to do, including my name. I'm a junior. I used to hate my first name, which is Raymond. She goes, it's the man that makes the name, not the name that makes the man. Wow. That's brilliant.
That's wise. Always speak to my mom there. That's very wise. Because my mom, my mom passed away,
it was,
two years ago, just a few days ago.
And, I remember when I when

(59:41):
I was on the I did a video call with her and I and I said to her, I said, mom, so I'm thinking because she used to listen to my show. She she was like, mom, I was thinking that, I think I might wanna start doing videos. What do you think? So she goes and she said,
Joseph, I love you.
You know that I love you.
And you know, I think that you are fantastic.
Oh, thanks mom. She goes, but listen, you have a face for audio, just stick with the audio.

(01:00:06):
And I was like,
thanks, ma.
Thanks.
Thanks. Appreciate that. But My mother treated me for my wife. So my wife was the daughter she never had. So Nice. You know, she lived with us the last few years of her life. So I was always getting ganged up on. And I'm like, I'm I'm the son, son, you know, I'm the one you raised. Well, yeah. I got my daughter now. So I feel you in that way. Yeah. Yeah. I gotcha. I gotcha. Alright. So if you could speak one sentence into the minds of everyone listening right now and know that it would stick, what would it be?

(01:00:35):
Always stay humble and you are more than what your circumstance is. Outstanding.
You're the first person I've asked that question is I did it in one sentence.
That is awesome.
Alright. David, so, where could our audience go to learn about you, more about your work, and and and and follow you and track you down?
You can go to my website truecrimesandauthors.com.

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And also, you can email me the same thing truecrimeandauthors@gmail.com.
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Alright.
See. So second hour, we are already underway here. Now tonight, we have
another guest with us,
and somebody else that I've been looking forward to talking to,
Ken w Goode.
Ken w Goode is a seasoned bail attorney
and is a board member of the Professional Bondsmen of Texas. He's argued before the Texas Supreme Court and the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals,

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and he's one of the country's leading voices on the intersection of bail reform,
immigration enforcement, and public safety.
With immigration raids on the rise and crime rates
mysteriously falling,
many are asking,
is there a connection?
Are mass deportations
really driving down violent crime, or are we being misled by the headlines and half truth?

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Well, Ken's gonna be here tonight, and he's gonna unpack the data, the policies, and the unintended consequences offering insight from decades
of courtroom experience and community level work.
So folks, I'd like to welcome Ken
w Goode to the Joe Russo. Ken, are you out there?

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Yep. Turn your mic on.
Alright. I think we, I think we froze.
So Ken, if you Now I gotcha. Okay. I was gonna tell you to refresh.
Yeah.
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full disclosure, I'm a shareholder in Rumble, so I'm I'm
loyal to Rumble. So
Cool. Well Cool. Well, welcome to the show, sir. Thank you. I'm really glad that, you were able to connect with us tonight.
Before we get into anything, like, serious, I always ask a couple of
basic questions. And I'm sure as an attorney, you know, you you get those little questions in before you start really digging. Right?

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So Before you start hitting hard There you go. What's something most people don't know about you but should?
Oh,
I would say
they should realize from,
interacting with me, I have a blue collar background,
And so I have blue collar values. I don't have any problem with working hard. I'll outwork you. I don't have to be smarter than you because I'll outwork you.

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I like that. I like that. That's really good. Alright. And what's your go to beverage to unwind at the end of the day?
Oh, you know, it used to be Diet Coke. I mean, I used to have clients pick me up at the airport and hand me a Diet Coke. Nice. And I have quit drinking Diet Coke. And I've now I feel like I'm a alcoholic.
I have been two years and I've had only one Diet Coke. Two years on the wagon. Drink right now is water. Yeah. Okay. I drink water all day long, and I'll start with a cup of coffee.

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Nice. Nice. My well, as you heard when I did the read there, I I I and by the way, when I do the reads for this stuff, I really do drink the coffee. I I love it. It's great stuff. I was trying to read the what was on the coffee cup. On the one I'm oh, the one I'm using right now? It says,
I've gotta dig bic.
Okay. I was I was Yeah. That's the whole point. I was reading it to reverse. I was like, does that really say that?

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Yeah. That's the point. That's the whole thing. And then underneath it says,
you that read wrong.
And then under that it says You're going, I don't know if I'd wanna put my shortcomings on a cup and show it to everybody.
No. And then it says, underneath that it says, you read that wrong too. So
I don't know. I I swear to you. That's a very,
appropriate cap. I'll say that. Oh, for sure. For sure. I I I saw it on Amazon. So I was like, oh, I gotta get that. That's funny.

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I feel like I'm shorter than you, so I keep raising myself. So Yeah. You're good. You're good.
So my go to beverage at the end of the day is usually a bourbon.
Uh-huh. I I like I like my bourbons.
I've been cutting back on it because I was getting a little bit too
experimental with some of the more expensive ones, and, you know, I'm just a pilot. My dad was

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diabetic from the age of 17 till he died. Oh, wow. And so we never had
alcohol in our house. He was appointed to the very first class of the Air Force Academy, but was not able to go because they discovered he was diabetic on his physical. Oh, wow. So
but, I mean so I never had have been around alcohol. So I really I don't drink. But what I tell people is I can get into trouble

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all by myself being stone cold sober.
If I drink, it is absolutely guaranteed. That's game on. Right?
Game on. Game on. Nice.
Alright. So,
so, let's let's jump into some of these things here. So some some people are crediting mass deportations,
for the decline in violent crime.

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Do you think there's any evidence that really supports that?
Well, you know, if you Google
crime and deportations,
or if you Google this, you know, bad bail reform we're having in our urban areas with, crime, the same groups. I mean, any any little, advocacy
advocacy group that has the name justice in it, just about, that's issued a report,

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You will be shocked to find that they will have a report that says, you know, these bad bail reform releasing people that have committed crimes, and that doesn't increase crime. And the same thing about, deportations, that deportations does not impact crime. The problem is we're now starting to get data out from,
you know, the reliable sources or the sources that we historically look to. And and they're,

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confirming what we already know. When you deport criminals,
since most crime is committed by and large by a group of criminals,
crime will go down. What a shocking And that's what we've always known. We've known it historically. What a shocking revelation that is. You deport a criminal, the crime I know. It's kinda like saying,
you can believe your eyes

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instead of what the other side says is you can't believe your lying eyes.
Exactly. Exactly.
So, what would you say is the current dynamic between local law enforcement, federal immigration authorities, and and how does that affecting public trust?
Well, I would say in the majority of the country,
they work hand in hand together. I mean, if you look at the Harris County Jail, which is Houston, which is, third largest county in the nation,

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If you get arrested in Harris County and you have an ICE hold,
if you get out of their jail, you're gonna get handed off to ICE.
So I would say that's the majority of the country. Now we've got some pockets of resistance like LA,
Illinois,
some other areas where they like to call themselves either sanctuary cities or sanctuary states Mhmm. Where they are refusing to work with law enforcement. And and, you know, the scary thing I mean, the the thing that's really kind of been hard to understand is why why have they been doing this for so long? And then, you know, now we're starting to find out when

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when they come into a census, they count everybody in your area,
including illegal aliens, and then they attribute house seats at the US House of Representatives
based on
the gross numbers, not just the citizens' numbers. And so I think there's been some calculations recently that says New York and and California

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probably have five or 10 more seats than they would have if all we considered
were citizens. And as a result, they have more pool than they would otherwise have.
And and that's absolutely that's absolutely correct. I've been looking at this for I'm I'm native New York. So, you know, I I've seen firsthand
how New York's very, very liberal

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policies have
wrecked the city.
I also worked in law enforcement for twenty
three years of my twenty five twenty five years in city service. Twenty three was in law enforcement, uniform,
investigative services, operations, and and so forth.
So I've I've seen
how the liberal policies in New York really affect,

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the overall
population in New York. And You've seen the cost of what it has done locally to get those extra five seats. Exactly. Exactly. The the the the
under the Giuliani administration,
you saw New York City turnaround. You know, it it and, it was a beautiful thing to see. New York was a great place. Now, you know, I I moved to Texas ten years ago.

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Best decision I ever made in my life.
I've always but and strangely, I've always wanted to come to Texas even as a kid. I I don't know what it was. This is this time of year. This is the hottest time of year. Well, especially where I am. Yeah. I'm I'm down here. I'm in Eagle Pass. So it's, Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I'm right here on the border, so I saw all that mess. And,
I'm a few I'm a few

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maybe five minutes from Shelby Park where this where the standoff took place. And, you know, so it's I'm right here in the middle of it all. And it it was interesting to watch. And that's why I also have my Texas independent flag back here, and we'll we'll talk about that. I'm gonna pitch something to you.
So,
so I yeah. So I'm familiar with these liberal policies that that just destroy cities. I saw that with with,

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with Giuliani, the resurgence of New York, and then under the administration that followed him, Bloomberg started off good.
Started off good. You know, and then all of a sudden his his hyper liberalism started to come through.
And now, what I find
absolutely shocking, more than anything else, is
the Democratic party in New York

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has actually nominated
an outright self declared
communist
as their candidate for mayor.
Yeah. But do you think do you think Adams had anything to do with supporting that? Because he would be a stronger candidate against,
Mamdani than he would against,

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the other guy, the former governor. So do you think his supporters went out to vote for Mamdani to kinda help Adams?
I mean, we won't know that until the election. Yeah. But I I also heard today that, Cuomo is running as a independent now. He he launched a a new a new campaign. Cuomo will hurt him running as an independent. Oh, for sure. But I mean what I also found really disturbing

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was the
the,
the New York State GOP
basically threw in the towel on this one. They released a statement publicly that told people in New York to get out.
Wow. Now that to me, that's that's scary. That that to me is telling me that that party in New York just gave up, and they're not even gonna put anybody forward that isn't even that can even be 10. They have a they have a GOP guy on the on the ballot. They do. So we've got three alternatives to Ma'am Donnie, and so, I mean, that makes it more likely that Ma'am Donnie will be elected. Yes. Absolutely. And, and and who's and who the Republican party has forward as their candidate is Curtis Sliwa.

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I don't know him. Okay. Curtis Sliwa I don't know if you remember,
it was an organization in New York called, was it the Guardian Angels?
Oh, yes. Jeff, the one's a runner with the red bomber jackets, the red berets, and all that stuff. Well, he was the founder and and Okay. And and of that organization. He's on hand it then.
Yeah. I don't know. Or has he gone off the rails since the

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He I don't you know, he the the last I haven't really paid much attention to him until more recently.
But, you know, he ran
a catastrophically
unsuccessful campaign
once before for, for for for the mayor.
And I don't think I don't even think he garnered 5% of a vote. Yeah. You know? So and and this is who they're running.

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Again, I haven't been in New York in ten years. And Adams could split the vote, and Ma'am Donnie could win.
Yeah. Very true. I mean, I think you would say that's probable result. You mean Cuomo. Right? I mean, Cuomo. So Cuomo and
Adams are gonna you know, their supporters are already pushing back. I mean, some a group of billionaires met with, both of them and and asked,

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Cuomo to withdraw,
and they were gonna put their support to Adams. If both of them are in the race, I mean, you could I would argue stay out of the race. Yeah. That that makes sense. That that I would agree with you.
So New York is is is just falling apart, and I am so thankful that I live down here in Tulsa. Adam did make the comment that Ma'am Donnie won the nomination with 300 a little bit over 300,000 votes, and he won the, election with 700,000 votes. So,

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I mean,
you know, I mean, there was a a race for DA in Harris County that where the Republican made a similar argument, and the Republicans just stayed home. And then the,
Soro supported
Democrat candidate one by one or two points. So it was a race the Republicans could have won if they would have spent any money on it. Yeah. So I'm wondering if if we're gonna have a repeat of that in in a way. I think so. I think so. I'd be like, again, to go public. I don't know. I mean, you know, I've always said that,

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Obama, his his coalition for elections was Wall Street paid for it, and then they focused on left wing, you know, social issues and they left, the businesses,
alone.
That's not gonna happen with the Mamdani administration. No. I mean, he's talking about he's he's talking about having city run supermarkets.

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Yeah. So, well, here come your bread lines. You know? I mean, they're still gonna be empty because they're not gonna address the, shoplifting.
I mean, businesses, even government businesses that aren't looking for a profit, they're not gonna keep throwing money into the budget for that because of, daily shoplifting. They might finally care about shoplifting if it's their own stores, but, I mean, the problem is government owned stores have never been successful anymore. No. Absolutely right. And when I left New York, like I said about ten years ago,

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there was a statistic that was that said a 150
families, so you're talking two or more, a 150 families a month
were leaving New York Yeah. Ten years ago.
I'm very I I didn't think of it to look it up until just now, but, I'm curious of what that number would be now, because especially with all this.

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So you have this In California and New York, didn't they lose house seats in the last census? And that was before all this stuff about ill,
them packing any illegal aliens. I mean, imagine what it would have been like if if we weren't either weren't counting illegal aliens or if they weren't, we closed our border. Which is, which
the whole idea of counting illegals for voting I mean, the Democratic party has has has definitely taken the the veil off

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of,
of what their intention is. You know? They want to
flip this country into a one party system.
And Yeah. And, you know, whenever I hear them say Trump is a,
is a risk to democracy or
or a threat to democracy. I'm like, Trump is not a threat to democracy. He's a threat to Democrats. And they don't care about democracy. All they care about is themselves. Exactly. I mean, you can make the point too. In the in the in the last election, you had Joe Joe Biden

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stepping down. They didn't have in the primary primary.
They they they appointed by committee
his replacement.
Not one vote was cast for, Kamala Harris. Not one primary. Nothing.
And,
they said, this is who you're gonna vote for. That's it. Well, that's not freedom. That's not democracy. I've seen several articles that says the Democrats have done that for Hillary Clinton.

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Oh, sure. Yeah. And,
and, Kamala Harris. So they've had three candidates in a row that have been selected, not elected. And and the problem with that is that's that has actually driven their party further to the left.
And because the hardcore just think we could have won that election if we'd had just been

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true to ourselves, more left. If we'd had just been more left, we would have won. And then,
especially Kamala, she she moderated her positions. I mean, she did a 180 degree turn on a whole bunch of issues six weeks before the election, and all of her supporters going wink wink nod nod. Well, now, I mean, I think they've destroyed the,

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Obama coalition. And so now I agree. I don't think the Democrats can select
anyone but a hardcore,
hardcore left
candidate,
without selection without,
keeping them from selecting it and and having the elites do it. And I don't think they can get away with it now. And it's, they need to do that, and they need to lose and lose badly

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so that they'll moderate.
Yeah. And the
I I I and their their pivot to the hard left,
I I just I I don't think the country is there. I don't think that
Well, I don't even think they're there. What's happened is they've outsourced
a bunch of their policies, criminal justice reform,

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immigration reform. They've outsourced it to advocacy groups.
And the problem with when you outsource it to advocacy groups like the Soros Coalition and all them, they will never admit they're wrong. They're always gonna say, give us more time. We just need more time. Or or these things kept it from working. Or, you know, we just need,
to do it for we need to go further left to show it really works.

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Those things I mean, advocates advocates never admit the wrong. That's when I realized that they had outsourced all these things. When you have all these bad bail reform and, you have shoplifting running through the roof in California and they won't even admit it, they won't do anything about it, that tells you it's all politics. It's advocacy groups, and they're they're holding the politicians hostage. Oh, yeah. I agree with you. And and then you you have candidates like,

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AOC. You have candidates like Ilhan Omar, and you have candidates like,
what's what's what's that what's her name?
Oh, shoot.
I would be such a great name dropper if I can remember names. I know. It it's it's, it's it's it's I I saw a meme recently then there's a picture of her and it says this is why Muslim men prefer goats.

(01:27:57):
So what was her name? Why can't I Oh, Rashida Tlaib.
You know,
they keep putting these people as the front of the party though.
You know, they're not looking to show any kind of moderation. Now, they're not looking to show, hey, you know, we're we're we we pushed it too far. They're going full on with this far left agenda. They're talking that AOC is is probably gonna gonna put a bid into,

(01:28:23):
to to primary Chuck Schumer and that that she has, presidential aspirations. Don't you think mom Donnie will be a good, list let's test about that? Because if he loses, then she's gonna not run. I mean, because that I mean and, also, the party elites or the longtime Democrats
should come after Ma'am Dani because the I mean, they know what damage that he would do to the party for next year's midyear elections. I mean but you can see if you've watched politics, you can see this coming from, you know, a mile away. You know,

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historically, six months before there was a a national election, we would have some
pumped up thing where the Democrats would say, you as a racial group are being mistreated.
We'd have protests. They say, you need to get angry and you need to come out and vote, and they won some elections doing that. Mhmm. But the problem is when you create a mob, you lose control of the mob. That's right. And that's what's happened. And they've so the mob has gotten mad at them because every time after the election, they just go back to status quo. And so now they've started

(01:29:22):
electing members of the mod mob. We call them the true believers. Yeah. But, I mean, they're they don't believe in anything. They're just, you know, disruptors. They're organizers. And so now those are the people that are getting elected.
And
what do you know? The party faithful is getting attacked by their own, by the mob that they created. That's what happens every time. Yeah. They're eating they're they're eating themselves is what's basically what's happening. And Well, and you look at Texas. You you've been here. Texas has always been a conservative state even when it was a Democrat conservative state. Right. But back then, the dem Democrat party was a big tent party, and then they quit having room for all these different views. And so they've run off the conservatives first, and so that's the reason why Texas became a a Republican state. Now they're at the point where they're running off anybody almost but the hard left. And you're seeing more and more articles say, we we can't be a a party, where we have all these loyalty tests or we're gonna die. Well, that they're in the process of dying. Oh, I agree with you. And,

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one thing I'm I'm thankful for is, like, where I live is
predominantly Democratic.
Alright? The the but they're conservative
Democrat.
It's it's like it's the old blue Especially for the last election. Yeah. I mean, those counties
flipped to Republican. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the old what they call them, Blue Dog Democrats?
That's Oh, yeah. That's kind of what it is here, you know. And,

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so it's it's tolerable,
if I could put it that way.
But, You know, my experience, that's a good an area that has really good people. I mean Yes. You know? Absolutely.
I mean, religious people. I think strongly religious, and that's what kinda makes me question long term whether they'll be in the Democrat party because there's no room in the Democrat party for people None whatsoever.

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None whatsoever.
And,
I I was I was gonna ask you something about that too.
You see, with
the the,
what I've what I've also noticed, so you mentioned midterms,
I just I don't I don't see how
Democrats can have any kind of optimism about midterm elections,

(01:31:27):
aside from the fact that they're planning on stealing and and so on and so forth. But but,
when you have all of these
riots taking place,
and
all of all over illegal
immigration. Again Mhmm. I've said this many times in the show. I'll say it again. I do not have a problem with immigration.

(01:31:48):
Well, I don't have a problem with legal immigration. That's the point. I don't have a problem with immigration. I have a problem with illegal immigration.
You know, you wanna come you wanna live in The United States? Go through the process. I interviewed a guy, a couple of weeks ago,
named, Julian Raven,
who, a British national,
came to The US

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with a visa, did it the right way,
realized that he overstayed his visa, not by long, but when he realized he did, he came under such conviction that he marched himself down to 26 Federal Plaza at the time when it was still called INS.
Marched himself in there, and this is how he described it was he walked in, he put his hands his hands together, and he goes, I overstayed my visa. And they laughed at him and said to them, go.

(01:32:32):
Just leave. And he did. And he went through the whole process, came back, and now he's an American citizen. He got a citizenship in 02/2015,
I think it was he said.
Big My daughter who's 25, 26 is dating a young man from Colombia Mhmm. Whose family immigrated here when he was 10. He didn't speak a word of English.
He grew up in the, schools. He learned English, and he's a naturalized citizen. His entire family is now, and he went to college. He has two degrees.

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And, we like we like their family. We like them a lot, and they're they're a good fit for us. And I I mean, so I don't have a problem, like you said, with immigration. I don't have a problem with it at all. I have a problem with the illegal immigration. I have a big problem with open borders where we're bringing in drugs right and left and and we're bringing in the whole process. We're bringing in employees for them to run their illegal operations Right. And we're trying to to defend that. I mean, we're ignoring it and somehow I mean, that's okay. I mean, I I that's not okay.

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Not at all. And then my point about the midterms is is, you know, you have the Democrats talking about, you know, you know, they they wanna
take the house. Of course, you know, if that if they do steal it and, you know, all you're gonna get it for the next two years is gonna be impeachments, impeachments, impeachments, and, you know, everything they can to try to just derail everything the president's doing right now.
But I don't see how they could be optimistic about taking that. When you have all of these images

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of
illegal immigrants
burning police cars, burning buildings, burning businesses, looting
breaking everything up, standing on top of cars waving foreign flags. Yeah.
And then they tell us that we're
racist for saying that this wasn't But aren't they just resorting back to their playbook? That's all they know. That's what they did Yeah. When they won the last,

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midterm with a, with a Republican president. So they're just reverting back to their play group play, playbook.
And, you know, there's I've seen some articles saying it is absolutely guaranteed
that the Democrats will take over the house.
And, you know, there's that article or that group of articles is just saying that based on history. I mean,
I mean, it's very, very infrequent, very rare that the party in power gained seat in the house, during the midterm. I think George Bush the second

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is probably one of, of of an exception to that rule. Yeah.
But
the the Republicans I mean, the Democrats are playing right into, and they've stepped into this trap
by, Donald Trump. And the election is going to be all about illegal immigration,
which is their weakest,
issue, and it's one of the Republicans' strongest. I mean, look, he he you know, they're Democrats, how did how long did they say we can't do anything about the border until we pass the new bill? And and it turned out we didn't need a new bill. We needed a new president. I mean, it's like It's probably the greatest line I've ever heard in a in a Yeah. Like California quit prosecuting theft under a $150 or a $190

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or and and suddenly we have shoplifting at 25,000
a day, buildings closing,
commercial buildings plummeting in value.
I mean, we know how to stop crime. We know what to do. We just need to allow police good police to do what they do. And and everything that we've learned from immigration policy,
we need just to apply

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to criminal justice policy.
What they're doing, what the Democrats have done to immigration policy, they've also done to, criminal justice policy. And it's reversible, and it can be fixed. And if you don't feel safe, you need to
vote Republican.
How do you think these policies,
help or hinder a community?

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Well, if you okay. So really the Democrat policies, they won't say it, because they'll publish stories that say,
when we enact these soft on crime policies, they will not increase crime. Really, what they're saying is we're not gonna prosecute those crimes anymore, so you really just have to put up with more crime. That's that's what they're saying. And, of course, they don't report the crimes either. So so that makes that pushes artificially the numbers down. So it it Well, but but, you know, we heard for, oh, probably five years. You don't have to believe us. Here's this study that says crime is not increasing. But look at the FBI statistics. Mhmm. The FBI statistics says crime's going down. And I think in October of last year, right before the general election or a month before, I published an article or I had an article published talking about all the different reasons why we should not,

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rely upon the FBI statistics because they're just inaccurate because they were shifting over to a new system, and so they were incomplete. Well, ten days later,
suddenly, the FBI statistics were updated and and showed crime increasing. Mhmm. And that was
weeks before the election. And suddenly,
all the Democrats quit talking about crime, and they started talking about Trump being a fascist. And they started yelling, Trump's a fascist. Trump's a fascist. He's Hitler. Because they couldn't talk about crime anymore. Right. Yeah.

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It it and again, that's their playbook though. If when whenever a Democrat is losing a battle, they resort to the name calling, they resort to scare tactics. You know, I've seen that so much. If they can't respond to you on the merits, they call you racist, they they do name calling. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, I did a debate with,
a civil rights court attorney who this is a law firm that does, a lot of these lawsuits that are filed across the country to impose criminal justice reform. But it I mean, it's it's what it's who the Democrats have outsourced their criminal justice reform policies to. And I mean, she's

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calling jails cages.
And, you know, and she finally she just called me a racist. And I'm like, you do that because you can't respond to the merits of my argument. And so you're just trying to use toxic language Right. As a way to say, okay. Now we're gonna do identity politics, so don't listen to Ken anymore because he's not the proper identity. When the reality is you just can't respond to the merits. I mean her argument is, if we just had gave away free homes to the criminals, they would stop committing crime.

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Well, how about we give away homes to
veterans?
Homelessness. Yeah. I'm like, well, under your argument, if they commit one crime, we give them a home. If they do another one, we give a summer home. I mean, that's not an argument.
Third crime, they get a spot up in Martha's Vineyard. Yeah. I mean, that's the whole reason why we have jails is it's to encourage people. They don't wanna be in jail, so we that encourages them to become a productive citizen. That's correct. That's absolutely correct. Now that's and speaking of which, I know I don't wanna drag up this guy's name because I'm just tired of hearing it, but this whole thing with, like, Abrego Garcia

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and this this play on words, you know, the the Maryland man, the Florida man, this man, that man, you know, scooped up in the dark of night, separated from the family. It's that that that loves and cherishes him so much. But in the meantime, you hear stories like in the in the Garcia story, you know, he was a serial abuser of his wife. He was a drug trafficker, he was a human trafficker. Thank you. Just a horrible human being, but yet you have Democrats

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siding with the criminal,
you have Democrats
siding with someone who is,
by court documents proven to be, a horrible human being,
flying to El Salvador, sitting down, having margaritas with them, and and doing all what about those victims? What about the people that they hurt
in their constituency?

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It's all poll tested language when they're using this Maryland father or when, you know, for for criminal justice reform, bail reform, they're like, we we have to protect the poor. And so they set up policies that tie the hands of judges so they can't even use their discretion. And the problem is when we're tying the hands of the judges to protect the poor, we're also tying the hands of the judges so they can't address gangs,

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organized crime, or career criminals.
It's the same thing. It's all on poll tested language
to get an emotional response, and then they double down on this identity politics. I mean, we've been watching or I've been watching for a backlash on that. I think we would have had a a a backlash two years ago,
but because of the Supreme Court's ruling on the abortion issue, that kind of overcame the backlash on crime Yeah. And immigration and kept it from being a backlash at the

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voters,
voter box. But then this time, we had that backlash on on, immigration and crime, and it resulted in Trump being elected. And, you know, now they wanna say, oh, it wasn't a big backlash. It was just a just a few votes. No. It was huge backlash. He won every,
swing state. He built he had a larger margin of victory in every,

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it seems like in every state than he had,
you know, four years or eight years before. I mean, it was an incredible
result, and especially with everything they threw at him. Because to me, it's clear that the Democrat strategy was
have him con Trump convicted of something Right. And then have the Republicans turn their back on him, and then the the country wouldn't care

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whether Biden was compass men menace or incompetent.
And
the problem is they picked Donald Trump. Donald Trump and I don't know if there's anyone other than Donald Trump that could have withstood what he withstood.
And that that's just a testament to his character right there. I mean, he,
you know, when I I've I've been a supporter for Donald Trump

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since 2015.
I wasn't as a vocal a supporter of Donald Trump in 2015, 2016
as I am now,
because I wasn't sure, you know. But I knew of the candidates that were being put forward in twenty fifteen, sixteen, he was the better of the candidates.
But I was I was, you know, leery. I was just cautiously 02/2016,

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I reluctantly voted for Trump. Yeah. Exactly. 02/2020,
I voted for him. I agreed with him on pretty much everything. Yeah. Exactly. 02/2024,
I would have crawled over broken glass Exactly. To vote for Donald Trump. Exactly. And
but my point is
whatever they say about Donald Trump, that's every Republican going forward. Yeah. They're they're gonna say he's worse than Donald Trump. And and what you said about character,

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I think that is so important because,
I think when people are being attacked, you see the true person.
I mean, you know, in my house, when I had a, you know, a daughter in elementary school,
if
if she got I mean, the only way she got caught lying is you had to corner her and then confront her. I mean, she wouldn't come to you and say, okay. I did poorly on this test. You'd have to go check her grades, then you'd have to stop her from having a great time. And then you'd have to sit her down and say, you know, and then she'd go, okay. Okay.

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But, I mean, that's not Donald Trump. When Donald Trump sets you down and tells you exactly what he thinks, and,
you know, we're gonna be somebody said we're gonna be watching movies over,
Donald Trump for the rest of our lives, and I do agree with that. I mean, I can already see a movie over his reelection,
and the closing credits are all the things that are happening in little snippets.

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Someone getting fired, someone having to admit they're wrong, and all these decisions. And, I mean, just I could see the audience just standing up and, you know, having
going crazy over all the things that happened in in,
and if the Democrats are not careful,
because they're stepping into these eighty twenty traps that Trump is setting for them because he's Trump,

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he could end up with incredible,
numbers.
Now he's he's, you know, he's a he's not a politician. He's as long as he's been he's not a politician. The problem with Trump in his first term, he was attempting to do what he was not comfortable with, be a politician.
The reason why he's doing so good right now is he's not attempting to be a politician. He's doing what he knows, and that's take over a bankrupt company. That's right.

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And and he is
doing it in a way he doesn't care.
Like, in the in his first his first term, he would he would fight back against the media. Like, he would battle, you know, tit for tat, right back. Tit for tat. And he yeah. And that was his biggest flaw. He didn't do that anymore. No. He he's
he's largely ignoring,

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and he's going ahead doing what he's gonna do. Bet you he could never do that. Yeah.
Yeah. And he's he's just going forward, doing his thing.
But it's like he's I mean, people come in. He's very comfortable
with where he is and what he's doing. And that's a difference. That's a huge difference. Like, you it's it's palpable. You could see it. You could feel it. He

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he he has one focus and one focus only, and that is
to lift The United States up
to improve the life of it. I think that's what the public believes. So if you have to question, who do I believe? Do I believe
ABC News or do I believe Donald Trump? I I can tell you right now, I'm gonna I'm gonna believe Donald Trump. Absolutely. Probably
80% of the issues. There's probably very few issues, and where he's vulnerable right now is on this,

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you know, the client list for, you know, someone I don't even wanna name. But that's
a a a thing of their own creation. Yeah. Actually, I was gonna cut to that. It's kinda made that worse by saying Trump's on it. But the problem is now it's such a a a uniform issue where we don't trust the Democrats or the Republicans on it. It that could create a problem.

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And,
they're gonna have to address that eventually because
without it I mean, he's gonna have to release something,
to get regain trust. Oh, I I agree with you 100%. Actually, I was gonna ask you some questions about that, you know, to try to have a conversation. Not on the list. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think so. I don't I don't remember enough. I'm a I'm a nobody. Yeah. Exactly. Well, well, me me. I'm talking about me. The,

(01:46:02):
what was I gonna say? It just flipped out of my mind. Well, first of all, if if Donald Trump was actually on the list, the Democrats have been screaming for that list to be released. He released it right before the election. You know he's not on the list. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, the whole Elon Musk thing, I think, is is only one issue, and that is when the butler attempted assassination
happened, Elon Musk made a decision that Trump's gonna win. That's I thought at the same time, Trump's gonna win. And so Elon started investing in Trump to try to talk him out of the

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EV,
tax break
repeal.
And
when he threw his fit with Trump was when Trump because Trump told him the whole time, you can support me, but I'm repealing the EV tax credit.
And when the big it looked like the big beautiful bill was gonna pass,
Elon threw a fit because he was trying to keep it from passing. I think he's a one issue person. The because I think without that,

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Tesla becomes,
much more,
under pressure.
And so and that's why he's setting up his new policy his new party. He only needs to get a couple of house seats and senate seats, and the Republicans will throw throw all fall all over themselves to give him his EV tax credit again. So I think he's a one issue man.

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Yeah. Yeah. I I I could agree with you on that one too.
So about the Epstein stuff,
what do you think? And you're as as a lawyer, as as sitting back looking this, what do you think is really going on behind the scenes? Because today, you know, you hear all these you hear all the stuff going on right now that,
Bongino, who I have a lot of respect for because we have similar backgrounds, like law enforcement, I you know, and all that stuff.

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And, I I think that when he was doing his podcast and his radio show, you know, he was
he was on point with all these things, you know, you know, calling for transparency on this. And then, fast forward now, he's the deputy director of the FBI. They roll him out for this interview with Kash Patel
on Fox News, and that both of them look like they're sitting there like hostages.
They both look sick to their stomach saying the things that they're saying, and now we're hearing that there was this,

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this, this this this huge disagreement, very vocal disagreement between
them, Pam Bondi,
Susie Wiles
at the White House. Bongino's threatening to quit. Patel's saying he's not far behind him if Bongino goes.
Mhmm. What do you see? What what do you think is going on with all this stuff? Why do you think
Okay. So let's downplay it. Let's say it's not what we think it is. I think you could make an argument that they're really upset upset about the lack of transparency and the steps that have been taken are mostly missteps

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by Bondi, and as a result, has destroyed her credibility.
You could make an argument at the very least that it's that. Mhmm. Anything else? I mean, I'm gonna tell you. You could convince me of any of a number of things, number of things,
because
they've destroyed their credibility.
I mean, both the Democrats and the Republicans have have destroyed their credibility on the Epstein issue.

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And I don't know I mean, they'll have to release something or have have a sacrificial lamb as the scapegoat Mhmm. To get over this issue. Now Trump doesn't think so. Trump thinks nobody cares about Epstein.
But somebody came out with some polling today to say it's important enough to a percentage that without them, we lose elections. So I'm not really sure. That's interesting.

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I don't know. I I I do believe that the issue
is not going away.
I mean, the the Democrats are looking for anything to stick on the wall as they throw more and more mud. If this sticks, then they'll focus on that. I I don't watch any of the liberal
news organizations, but sometime I'll just flip across it. And I've I did,

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good morning, Joe or whatever it is this morning, and that all they were talking about was the Epstein list, which is kinda interesting since they didn't wanna have anything to do with it when they were in power. But suddenly now that if anything shows that it sticks, they're gonna stick with it. And this seems to have gotten some legs, and so,
it's gonna be on the news until something knocks it off, and so for now, I think.

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Yeah. I I I'm but my my
my my concern, curiosity, however you wanna put it, is
the the flip flopping back and forth.
Yeah. It's on my desk. It's not on my desk. It it exists. It never existed. If we don't have it, it's gone. Personally speaking, I think that whatever lists
there were or are have probably been so scrubbed

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since
who knows how far back
to this point that they're probably worthless anyway.
Well, Trump makes a good argument saying those any list that they have were created by
Democrats.
Mhmm. And so
but, I mean, I I mean, there's no there's no way to explain why Elon Musk would say that Trump is on the list

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other than I mean, because I don't think he's having problem lying. I think he's baiting. And so I think if if you want to reconcile what he said
with why would he say that, then you could argue, okay. He doesn't he knows there's no list.
And so when he says that, they cannot disprove it
because there's nothing in writing to say that. So he's stirring up trouble.

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And I think that's what he was doing because it's all about his EV tax credit. It's like throwing a temper tantrum.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I I think you what you just said, temper tantrum. I mean, I think you look at that and you go, oh, yeah. That's exactly what he did. He threw a temper tantrum.
But
you don't do that to Trump.
I mean, I think Trump came out pretty good by saying, you know, the only people that have created this list are not Epstein. It's it's, you know, some Democrats. So there's nothing on there that is gonna be helpful to Republicans. And and, you know, I've heard arguments saying,

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if they've got a list for anybody that went out to dinner with them, then they're gonna have their lives destroyed for being on the list. But I don't have any I don't have any sympathy for that because, like you said, if if if someone says it's on my desk waiting for me to review and then a month later says there is no list, they no longer have credibility with me until they explain that. Yeah. And they and you're not but and they're not going to?

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They can't. They there's no way I mean, you know,
I started as an attorney as a medical malpractice attorney representing doctors in the hospitals. And I would tell a doctor, you know,
if they catch you lying, then you're lying, and you're a lying doctor for the rest of the case. You will not regain your regain your credibility in this case because you've been caught lying.

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And, you know, I represent bondsman, and I'm like, we don't even start even. We're bondsman, so we're lying bondsman. And I'm a lying bondsman's lawyer. You work for thirty years to get the good reputation you have, and it just takes
one thing saying, the list is on my desk, and then a month later saying, there is no list, and you can't win. Yeah. And actually, I was actually talking to somebody about that too with especially with AI with the,

(01:53:00):
what was it called? The, the blackmail inflation.
Anybody can take somebody's
image or likeness and put it into something that's AI generated.
And
the AI has advanced
so much in such a short period of time
that it would be
extremely difficult to try to differentiate between an AI generated video of that person in that compromising situation. All I need is a kernel of truth Yes. To build off of. Right. And then by the time

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by the time it gets,
you know, disputed and and and proven that, no, this person wasn't really involved in this. This was all a fake.
The damage is done.
Yeah. Yeah. The reputation shot and all that stuff. There's some old saying that by the time it takes a lie to spread across the world, it takes, you know, three times, four times as long for the truth to catch up. And Yeah. I mean, AI has already made that incredibly

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fast. But it but it also,
excuse me, has made it where we don't wanna trust anybody.
I mean, how do you trust anybody Excellent point. With AI that you can fake it so quickly? Excellent point. Excellent point. I I did an AI generated picture of myself with a with a a reptilian alien, and it looks so real.
You know? I I sent it out to I stood in my sister. I was like, hey, look, I found a picture of me and grandpa. Picture with my sister.

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No. I sent it to my sister. I was like, hey, look, I found a picture of me or grandpa.
You know?
Sorry.
So I I it's and that and that goes goes to your point that, you know, you know, you now you're guilty by association whether it's true or not. No matter what happens, you're you're now scarred for life. And there's there's generally no recovery from it. I mean, for just for as an example and not AI related,

(01:54:48):
but, the pee pee tape
of Donald Trump getting urinated on by by Russian prostitutes. First of all, Donald Trump's a germaphobe. That would never happen.
That was my response at the time. Yeah. So that that would never happen. That that's the most ridiculous thing ever. But
how many
how many people today, even though it's been debunked,

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time and time again,
how many people today still bring that up?
So many people still talk about it. Really? No. I mean, not in my world because I'm like, well, if you're gonna believe that, you're gonna believe anything. Basically, yeah. And they're usually Democrats. I mean, you know, the problem with the fight on the,
on the Epstein list
is who is Trump gonna side with? Because my understanding is his chief of staff is very close, very close with Bondi. Mhmm. And so who did he come out defending? Bondi. Of course. But he also said, Bongioni or whatever his name is, that he's a nice guy too.

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So he's trying to pull them back together. But I think if he has to pick sides,
his chief of staff's relationship with Bondi will win out. Yeah. But I think Bondi has an
okay. First of all, I discount anything I hear in the news about Bondi because everything is gonna be blown up. But I do think she has misstepped. If she has said it's the list is on my desk, and now it's saying there is no list,

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she she has
committed an unforced error. Mhmm.
And she has some explaining to do.
She does. Absolutely.
And, it's gonna
That's a lesson to all politicians, because I think Trump with his MAGA base is probably the most trusted politician in the country.
And the far left can't understand that. The far left is going crazy about it. Mhmm. But they don't all they see is a convicted felon.

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They don't see
that that's all crap, and it was all a setup to try to to destroy him because they'd rather destroy him
and and retain power than have any type of
of governor of what's best for the country, and they can't see that. And all it did was make him stronger?
It did. All it did was just even talk about they stopped talking about the case. When that came out and they convicted him, it was the same thing as,

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you know, the grabbing the woman from the last election. It came out too early.
And by the time the election came around, it was stale. Those those types of things used to come out the Thursday before the election because there was be no time to respond.
Now with early voting, it has to come out earlier. And by the time,
the election day comes, it's done. I mean, people have discounted, either they believe it or they don't believe it.

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And it's it's been all the harm is greatly muted and overcome. And Right. And nobody better at overcoming that than Trump.
Yeah. He he just keeps plugging away at it, discrediting it. He he didn't and again, like we said before, he's not
focusing on that. He's like, okay. That's
not that it's fine, but they did. That's what they said. Okay. Move on. Let's go. Let's keep going with the agenda. This seems irrelevant, but I think this is a really good example of what you're saying. So in the one debate between Trump and Biden, I mean, Trump was talking about golf and, you know, Biden was saying what a great golfer he was. And, you know, Trump's like, yeah. Right. Mhmm. Well and, I mean, if I was sit when I was sitting home, I was like, I don't think either one of them are gonna be any good golfers.

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And so what did Trump do really soon after that? He had a YouTube,
video with him and some great golfer where they were playing a game. They were trying to get, so many strokes,
and I think they were, you know, donating money to charity. And suddenly,
Trump you look at Trump and the the professional's like, you're a good golfer. Yeah. And they ran

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whatever the score was. And then suddenly, you're like, oh my god. Everything I thought about Trump. Now I promise you, I never even thought Biden could hit the ball, but, I mean, Trump saw that
and just had this idea that, you know, people don't think I'm a good golfer. Let's go disprove that. What he does is disprove you and what you think of him over and over and over. Yep. He's a man of his word. I don't think anybody would disagree with that. I think the leaders of Iran would agree with that right now. I may. So do I. And and the the leaders Putin may may

(01:58:57):
come to realize that in fifty days because Trump just gave Putin a fifty day deadline. And I think that history has when Trump gives you a certain number of days,
you need to act within those days.
Fifty one, probably something's gonna happen. Well, we have a perfect case, case study of that with with Iran. He gave him sixty days. On day 61,

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boom happened. And then shortly thereafter, I'm giving you two weeks, not even
two days into it,
American military power was displayed. You've got the Democrats where we are, you know, the far left where I think they've outsourced their
criminal justice policy and their,
immigration policy. So they don't know what they believe.
If you ask them what they're gonna do, they they turn to their

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advocates that are they that are setting their policy form. I mean, when Soros visits the White House with Biden, I mean, dozens and dozens of times, you know it's not for good. No. Of course not. Not my book. He's telling them what their policy should be, and they don't know better because they've outsourced it to them, so they don't have anybody looking at it. It. Usually, when you do that, you get the advocacy groups come in and argue, and then you make an independent decision of what you should do is which is best for the country. They don't they skip that whole step and just outsourced, in my opinion, to those advocacy group. I agree.

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Alright. Well, Ken, we're coming up on the hour. So let's, let's wrap this thing up for the moment. And, I would love to have another conversation with you though. So we we definitely need to get in touch with each other and and and have us sit down again. So,
if you could speak one sentence
into the minds of everyone listening right now and it would stick, what would it be?

(02:00:36):
Pursue an active relationship with Jesus Christ. Amen. Oh, brother. God bless you. Thank you so much.
I mean, that just builds from everything else. Yes. Absolutely.
I mean, there's been many times in my life where I've thought about doing something, and I'm like,
I mean, there was time where I couldn't say what would Jesus do. I'd say what would grandma do because she was really religious.
Right. So and there's a lot of things I haven't done because grandma wouldn't do it. And now because Jesus wouldn't do it. We're we're missing a governor on our,

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politicians and our society in so many areas. We just have no moral compass anymore, and I think we're missing that. And that's very very important. Absolutely. I I totally that's a that was a great answer. I I love that. Thank you so much for it. I am a blood bought born again, bible believing Christian, Ren. So, you know. Grew up in the church,
met a woman of the church, and we've raised our kids in the church. And That's great. Well, I'm gonna invite you to check out our Sunday show, because our Sunday show is a bible study show.

(02:01:33):
And,
we started I started teaching a series on America's Christian heritage.
So I started with, politics in the Bible. I start and then from there, I went to the Christian's Bill of Rights,
and then we talked about the the, the start of the American Revolution,
battles of Lexington and Concord, Breeds, and Bunker Hill. And then this past this, past Sunday, we talked about the,

(02:01:57):
the conclusion of hostilities with the declaration of independence, and then next week we can get it to something else. So, and it's it's probably taking about ten, twelve weeks of studies on this. So, I mean, that's that's how much I already have outlined for it. So it's gonna take a while. I used to teach a class to high school,
seniors and, did that for years until my, my daughter who's 20, she was a special needs kid when she was born. So we quit teaching then, and she had a bone marrow transplant when she was five. She's doing good. She just has some arm issues, but she's a junior in college.

(02:02:29):
Great. Congratulations.
I mean, that's that's wonderful. You know,
it's hard because I my my son has,
he has disabilities. He's, he has, he was diagnosed Asperger's
at very young,
and more recently, he was diagnosed as a bipolar.
So,
you know, so yeah. Raising raising a child with with, disabilities is extremely difficult. But you know what? If you pour yourself into it, you put your love behind it, you instill the values and faith in them. You know, two things I would say on that is this is hard was hard for me at the time, but we, you know, I went to count we went to counseling to prepare for the birth of this child because we knew there were problems. And, you know, one of the things the counselor says is you have to mourn the child you thought you were gonna have so that you can celebrate the child you received. Oh, wow. That's And and that seems really cruel at the time, but it is so true. I mean and I will say, going through that, I hope you agree, changes you. Yeah. My wife and I are different people than we were. I was a I mean, I'm a workaholic. My everybody in my family say I was I'm a workaholic, but I'm a different workaholic. Family means something to me. Absolutely. And, you know, this little girl that has arm issues and didn't make platelets when she was born just stole our hearts. And,

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we can't imagine our life without her, and she's 20 years old now. Oh, praise the Lord. Amen for that. Amen. Well, the what can can I ask her name so I can pray for her on my prayer list? Her name is Laurel. Laurel Goode.
She's a junior at UT Dallas, and she's in their gaming program, which is interesting since nobody in gaming is finding jobs right now. Nice.
But that's alright. She works for me part time. Okay. There you go. Dad's to the rescue. That's all. Yeah. So but, yeah. I'll definitely I'm gonna add her to my prayer list. So I'll be I'll keep her in prayers for sure.

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Alright, Ken. Thank you. So where can the audience go to find out more about you and what you do?
We have a website called, pbtx.com,
the professionalbondsman
of texas.com.
We have a blog where we highlight,
important criminal justice stories, but we also we have our own podcast. There's a link on the menu, or you can just go to the bailpost.com.

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The bail, that's bailpost.com.
You wanna know what the Illinois plan is or the New Jersey plan is? We have a podcast all about it. Everything to try to instruct
or teach or or educate lawmakers and the public on what works and what does not work in criminal justice reform. That's great. I'll definitely be checking that out. That's fantastic. And we'll make sure we include all this stuff in the show notes. I have some of it in the audio notes. I don't have anything yet in the video notes, so I'll make sure we get all that set up for you. So Ken, Ken, good. Thank you so much for spending your time with us. Really do appreciate it. God bless you. God bless your family, and stay safe, brother. Stay safe. You too. Thank you very much. Alright, folks. Ken Goode. Alright. So we just have a couple of announcements we're gonna go we're gonna go through here momentarily, and,

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but,
gotta use the little boys room again. So just stick with us. We'll be back in,
two minutes. Alright. Be right back.

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Alright. Ken, good.
I don't know about you, but tonight's show was really good tonight. I I loved talking to these guys, man. This was a lot of fun. I hope you guys enjoyed it. Well, folks, welcome back to the Joe Russo. My name is Joe Russo. It is great to spend our Monday night here with you,
and just folks don't forget this is a live show

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weeknights.
Still have to say it that way until we clear out the
schedules.
But this is a live show weeknights, 7PM central time, Saturday spotlight show at 3PM central time,
and our Sunday bible study show at 6PM

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central time.
Alright. So we got a few announcements we wanna make and we're gonna do these as quickly as we possibly can because we've got a lot of stuff to do. I got the kids sitting over here at the door waiting to get fed, my dogs, my little Frenchies.
Alright.

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So
we have some very interesting news that we want to,
announce.
And, we are very excited about this. This is gonna be fantastic,
not only for,
for for for the show itself, because it's gonna be

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a huge boost for us,
but, also for me personally,
because, you know, I've been working really hard at trying to
to do something with this show and and
and be really good at what we're doing, and this is a step in that direction to get there.
So what I would like to announce is that,
well, actually, let's how about we

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do
this.
Hoping the video clears up.
Alright. So here's the good news.

(02:09:30):
Starting August 5,
twice a month,
we are going to be doing a show with
Svetlana
Rilkov
of Ezra Healing
called Do No Harm.
And we'll be addressing all of

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the
myths and the stories about health care, modern health care, holistic health care,
alternative health care.
And, Svetlana is the,
is the the nurse from British Columbia that we spoke to a few weeks ago,
who,
lost her job over COVID,

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becoming a COVID whistleblower, refusing the vaccines,
and,
all the difficulties that came about with that.
She went out. She she started her own organization called Ezra Healing,
and
and
Ezra Healing is now going to be a sponsor of this show

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going forward,
and we are incredibly thankful for that. That is a huge boost for us,
and, we're looking forward to doing some amazing and great things. So we wanna say thank you to the folks over at Ezra Healing and to Svetlana Rylkoff,
and all of her team for making this possible.
And, we are incredibly excited about this. I I I I cannot emphasize that enough, and this is gonna be a huge thing for us. And,

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I cannot wait to get started. So August 5,
which is a Tuesday,
we're gonna be doing this show twice a month
that we're calling it's part of the Joe Russo, but it's also the show segment is called Do No Harm. And we'll be spending the evening with Svetlana Ryilkov
talking about everything related to health
and wellness. So very excited to that do that. And thank you to Svetlana, and thank you to our team. And Ezra Healing, thank you so much. And, so make sure that you check out our website to check out our sponsor page because we're gonna have,

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Alright?
Now, folks, also don't forget, we have our and I I haven't been talking about it too much.

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Shame on me. But, you know, we do have an email list, and we would really like folks to get signed up to that email list. So head over to the website,
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We're only gonna send you things that are related to programming notes for the show. So that basically means
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Also,
wanna remind you that tomorrow,
we are going to have a guest named Leah Crest.
Leah is the author of At the Edge of Jordan, and It's Okay to be Okay. She's a teacher of Christian meditation,
contemplative Christian blogger,
math teacher, wife, mom, you name it. She's got a coverage. She's gonna be with us tomorrow, so be sure you tune in tomorrow to check this all out. Alright. Social media. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter or x, whatever you wanna call it these days. Alright?

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You also get included in all of our show notes as producers of the show. And we do that because your donation helps us to pay for stuff, and by helping us pay for stuff,

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She donates her time and her talent.
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And that's huge for us, for me.
I say us, the royal we, you know, the royal us. It's huge because it takes so much time
away,
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(02:17:03):
you could do that too. Maybe you're good at web design. You can help us with the website. Maybe you're good at figuring out the technical stuff, the problems we have with video from time to time, and the audio and whatnot. You can help us out with that too. We would appreciate that. So just reach out to us. Let us know, and, we'll put you to work. Don't worry about it. It's plenty of work for everybody to do. Trust me. Plenty of work. Now the other thing too that you get with the executive producers.

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Alright?
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And, that was a lot of fun, and we're looking forward to doing it again. So at the executive producer level, you get that. At the executive producer two level, you get all of that stuff, booking the segment, and you also get the Joe Russo's well, I'm not wearing one today, but you get the the Joe Russo t shirts or the Joe Russo podcast t shirts, sticker packs, whatever we have available that you would want, we'll get that out to you. Alright? As a gift to say thank you. So we really do appreciate all of the support and all the help that you guys give us, and, we ask you just to consider making those donations in any way you could. Now we also do cryptos. You could be you can you could, donate

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Alright. Well, I think that is going to just about do it for us for tonight. So if you would, don't forget to head over to our website,
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That's joeroos.com.
Click on the contact section. Send us over any questions, comments, cares, or concerns you have, any suggestions. And folks, always remember, make Texas independent again.

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Go podcasting.
Keep a steady stride,
and more importantly, keep talking.
Good night and goodbye.

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