The Motherhood Playbook Nobody Gave You

Modern motherhood, burnout, and building your village—Regina Steele says it’s time to stop doing it alone.

In this honest and empowering episode, Regina opens up about her journey from autoimmune struggles to becoming a nutrition coach and author of Mother Fcked: The Anti-Perfectionist Guide to Surviving and Thriving in the Chaos of Modern Motherhood*.

She shares no-BS health tips (think: real food, fewer ingredients, zero pressure), calls out the toxic myth of the “lone mom,” and reminds every mother that she was a person before kids.

If you're tired of pretending you've got it all together, this episode is your permission slip to ask for help, find your people, and finally put yourself back on the priority list.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Okay, so welcome to our podcast.
This is a little bit differenttoday, because this podcast is a
spinoff of our radio show.
This is my podcast.
Right, this is the John J VanNess podcast, and this is the

(00:26):
first time, before I introduceour guests, that my wife Blake
is going to co-host with me.
Oh right, because we've gotRegina and Rick Steele.
You have a new book out and isit okay to cuss on this podcast?
Yeah, it's your podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I wanted to ask that too.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Because, I mean, the book is called.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Mother ask that too, because I mean it's.
The book is called motherfucked, mother fucked the
anti-perfectionist guide tosurviving and thriving in the
chaos of modern motherhood.
Wow, and it's not a parentingbook it is not a parenting book,
absolutely not, no.
When?

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I read the whole thing, what your book was I was
like, oh my god, she's gonna,she's gone through this stuff.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
She's gone through this stuff because you're a
mother of three girls we have,uh, two girls and one boy, oh,
and then my older stepdaughter,who's 24.
She basically takes care ofherself now, but and she is a
mother of three boys oh yes, soI know the three.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Thing and rick.
So before we get like reallyget into the meat of the book
and stuff, I think there'sthere's an interesting little
connection the four of us haveof stuff.
I think there's there's aninteresting little connection
the four of us have.
Right, I met you, rick, notthat long ago because I was at
jesse itzler's house in rome,georgia, and I was doing
saunaing and I was doing and Imet this great guy, and this

(01:36):
great guy says to me you got tomeet my friend rick, and so you
and I are connected.
Uh, you know, jesse, yeah,right, she just got back from
jesse's house in Connecticut,just a couple of days ago.
I did the mastermind.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Oh, very cool it was the coolest thing ever.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Like like I came back feeling like I expected it to
be like kind of a networkingthing, but it was so, not like
that.
We made relationships, wepushed ourselves.
I did Hell on the Hill 15 times.
Thank you very much.
That was amazing.
And yes, jesse has never met astranger.
He's the coolest guy.

(02:13):
He's just genuine nice, smart.
I enjoyed him so much.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
I call Jesse the best curator of people I've ever met
.
He is impeccable at justbringing the right people around
him, but when you're you're,how many people were there?
20 or 30?
It was like 40 people there,wow so but you felt like family
when you left right, becausethat's the way it is with hell
in the hill.
Every year we go and there's 150people, and all of these people
we consider great friends,except for we see them most of

(02:39):
them once a year.
Yeah, once a year.
But Matt, I think, is whoconnected yeah you know I've had
, I've seen matt seven times inmy life.
Six have been at hell on thehill right yeah, but yeah, it
was such a.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
She was telling me how you know it was at the house
.
He just let people in theirhouse walk around oh you, he,
there was no rules.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
I mean, he was like people were walking around his
house and he's upstairs andpeople stayed there and he was,
you know what, at the end of theday, like he doesn't have to do
this, like he can run off intothe sunset and go travel and do
what he wants to do.
But I think he genuinely lovesconnecting people, like you say,
and I walked out of there likevibrating on a higher level, so

(03:22):
I feel like, oh my gosh, I cango do my business now and I've
met some wonderful people thatI've been communicating with the
last three days and yeahamazing.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
And then also with your book.
Isn't he somehow tied to it?
Or does his wife writesomething in your book?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Well, no, so I just know Jesse through Rick, because
when I went to hell on the hillthe first time actually, I'll
let you know the funny storythat got edited from the social
media platforms because of sarahthank god for her but um, the
first time I succeeded in ahundred hills, I started getting
sick in a trash can and theyhave it all on hd camera over me

(04:04):
with his phone recording it andSarah comes up to him and says
you're going to take that offyour phone right now, Jesse,
yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, wow.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
So yeah, but that, yeah, we all just know each
other for hanging out andeverything.
I'm really good friends withLeslie, who's, I mean she was
there.
Oh, she's amazing.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
In fact, I was saying that he needs to have her on.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, Leslie's amazing Because.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
I want to eat so that I don't have to wear sunscreen.
That's my big goal from Leslie.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, leslie is the vegan chef.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, I want to eat clean enough where I don't have
to wear sunscreen.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, and she's so great and I've met so many
amazing people through them aswell just going to Hell on the
Hill, and then people will justreach out to us because they
know rick has done all theinsane things with jesse insane
dude.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
I know some they're crazy well, and jesse and i's
relationship began the same way.
Really, it's like the way jessereaches out to people, or
really the way I reach out topeople as well, which is, like
you know, kind of like a nerdy.
Hey, do you want to hang out?
Like you know you rememberdoing that as a kid but, we
don't do that as adults rightand you know, you, you, when you
lock in on somebody you knowyou'll be friends with just go
for the ask, you know.

(05:06):
Say yes or no right.
And it was a yes.
And then you know, now I findmyself every time the phone
rings before I have an answer.
If it says Jesse on it, I lookat Regina and I'm like all right
, get ready to clear thecalendar for something.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
It's always something like that how long have you two
been together?

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Four or five years.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
He said you been together five, four or five
years.
He said it right.
The other I.
I messed it up on ouranniversary.
That was totally my bad.
I was a year off where we havebeen.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
We have been.
We've been married since 2008,and so that's uh 17 years, and
we've known each other now for21 years yeah, wow, so tell us
about mother fucked.
Oh, what a great title by theway, can I say something real
quick here?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
the title's okay.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Because this morning I had breakfast with, I think,
your friend, Kurt Warner.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
And he said tell John Jay.
I said hey, but as I'mpresenting this book to him,
somebody across the table sayshey, rick, tell Kurt about your
book.
And I'm like I don't think Ican say this around Kurt, but
we're going to go for it, I'mgoing for it, right?
And he immediately locked inand was like I love it, my wife
will love that She'll be, allover that I made him buy the
book right at the table Did youreally yeah, that's awesome, I'm

(06:11):
going to get them on thepodcast?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yes, you do.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
He's a great people, great human being.
I'm so glad he liked the nameof the book.
Didn't say it, brenda will sayit.
Yeah, he was fun.
Yeah, so what inspired you towrite?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
this book and what's the general consensus.
So for me it actually was abunch of nudging from a lot of
people, in particular this guy.
So I've been a health bloggerfor about five years and that
actually started because I wentto an integrative health school,
got certified, only to helpmyself with my health issues,
because after I had kids, mostof us don't really know what the

(06:52):
heck is going on inside ourbodies.
We're just told by doctors oh,you need these prescriptions to
make yourself more balanced andyou know, figure this out.
And I witnessed my mom and alot of other women go through
like the ups and downs of doseson antidepressants and I was
just not really having that.
So I literally threw aprescription, slip away, went to

(07:13):
an integrative naturopathicdoctor and I sat in the office
with that one person for an hourand 15 minutes and my mind was
blown and I said there's a wholeother world I had no idea
existed.
So that's kind of where itstarted.
And then I got introduced toIIN, which is where I went for
school.
My cousin sent me a linkbecause she knew I was getting

(07:36):
really into the research of itand I went through that just to
heal my complications, whichwere a lot of autoimmune
conditions and a lot of healthissues.
So it started helping me.
But then I noticed a lot ofautoimmune conditions and a lot
of health issues.
So it started helping me.
But then I noticed a lot of myfamily and friends were asking
me for advice, which most peopledon't come to me for advice.
So I was like, okay, there mustbe something here.

(07:57):
So I started, like you know,giving a lot of people advice,
helping them out, creating plansfor them, and I was like, okay,
maybe I should become a coach,cause I didn't want to become a
coach.
I'm like, nope, totally not meNot going to be a coach, not at
all.
But, um, I I eventually becamea coach and once I started
writing the blog and everything,he was like you have enough

(08:18):
blogs to write a book?
He's like why don't you write abook?
And I'm like because I don'twrite books.
She doesn't have blogs to write.
I don't write books, ten books.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, and is it all based off of your own like was
it gut issues, is it?
It's everything, it'severything.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's everything.
And it was interesting becausethe amount of moms I discovered
I was helping, that's where Iwas like oh, maybe there is a
void here, because I have somany moms asking me for help
that you know they're actuallycoming to someone who's not a
doctor, who's not considered anexpert in any way, shape or form

(08:52):
.
They just want something simple, something basic, because their
life is already full of crazychaos.
They don't want a 50,000 stepplan.
You know that's going to costthem ridiculous amounts of
supplements.
They just want something sosimple and it's like that's kind
of what I've created.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Something simple so simple.
What's a?
What's a?
A resolution or an answer forsomebody that has a problem?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Well, if they, especially autoimmune conditions
.
I help with a lot of autoimmuneconditions.
We start with nutrition and alot of BS is thrown out there
about nutrition and it's allfalse.
It's completely false, like youknow.
Even listening to Leslietalking about food, it's
individual, Like.
The very first thing I learnedis bio-individuality is we are

(09:37):
all completely different people,like.
Not any two of us are going tobe identical on what our needs
and wants are, so you have tofigure it out for yourself.
So I kind of put women throughsomewhat of an elimination diet,
but it's not really anelimination diet, it's just
removing processed food fromyour diet and eating real food.
It's that simple.

(09:58):
It's like what is a whole food?
It's something that doesn'thave to have a label, that's a
food, that's food, food.
Try eating that instead of allthe stuff that comes in a box or
a bag and a lot of people don'tbelieve it because they're like
.
It's so simple, like this toosimple it's like no, that's,
that's how it is.
Like try it, and then peopleexpect it to be overnight

(10:20):
because we're brainwashed intothinking, oh well, well, pills
help you automatically.
So if this doesn't help meautomatically, then whatever,
I'm not going to do it anymore.
But it's like it's taking youhow many years to destroy your
body.
Give it six weeks.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
See what happens.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
And it's amazing what happens in six weeks.
You know my son who's overthere he will not put anything
bad in his body, Thank God.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
So we just over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
He drinks raw milk, right, and he gets it.
So we found this place thatsells raw milk and then I was
talking about it on my radioshow and so this woman messaged
me and she's like did you guysever get a hold of the raw milk?
And I said what's up, what doyou got?
And she tells me about a all inand she goes and I can deliver

(11:06):
tea for 25.
I'll do it.
So saturday morning and I stayaway from bread.
I'm trying to, because you know, bread's the enemy, my sister's
always told me, and I'm tryingto stay in shape, lose weight.
But they brought uh, we boughtthis bread bagels and english
muffins that were made thatmorning with just the basic raw
ingredients, like starter andwhatever I don't know how to
make five ingredients.
Yeah, whatever, yeah and andthey brought the milk raw milk

(11:30):
in bottles, like from like backin the old days, oh yeah and uh,
and some yogurt and somecheeses and some jellies and
peanut butter homemade peanutbutter.
So it's 8 am and I usually fast, I don't eat till one but I was
scarfing down this bread and Iwas just ready for the bloat and
to feel terrible and I didn't.
It was bizarre.
Then we went to a wedding thatnight and I ate bread and I felt

(11:50):
that book.
I was like I've been eatingbread like crazy, I'm gonna feel
good and but you know thedifference.
It was a totally differentexperience and I didn't get
congested like when I drinknormal milk.
I can't breathe.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
This raw milk stuff was just fine well and it's
funny like it's like when peoplego to europe I eat all the
bread and eat all the cheesethat I want and I don't feel
horrible at all.
And it's like if I eat it here,forget about it.
Because you look at theingredients list and it's
completely bonkers.
Like I always tell people ruleof thumb when there's a label
under seven ingredients and ifthey have ingredients on there

(12:21):
that look like it came from achemistry lab, chances are it
was made in a lab, so don't eatit.
Like it has to be a whole foodingredient.
So it's like if you know wherethe flour is sourced, that's
even better.
It's like we buy local noblebread.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Like he loves the sourdough.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
They're so good, so good.
Same thing those are farmer'smarkets Same thing.
Yeah, same farmer's market,same thing same thing.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
It's a few ingredients, very few
ingredients.
They're on.
They have like a simpleingredient list on their
packaging and it's, they tellyou exactly what's in it and
it's funny.
That's why, like, so manypeople are like homemade is
better, it's like yeah, becauseyou know exactly what's going to
go bad in like four or fivedays which is what you want to
do, right?

Speaker 1 (12:59):
yeah such a good point yeah well it.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
It's funny because John Jay's dad came over from
Holland and he said one of thebiggest surprises for him when
he came from Holland was thatyou go to a supermarket and you
buy groceries, because hisfamily would buy groceries every
two to three days, exactly whatthey needed for those days.
So they had.
The eggs weren't ever in therefrigerator and the bread and

(13:24):
everything we're talking aboutit was just fresh, yeah, easy.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
So did you cure your problems.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Almost all of them.
The only one I still have towork on is Hashimoto's, and that
one's pretty tough.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
That's thyroid right.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah Well, actually, no, hashimoto's is just
autoimmune, so it attacks yourthyroid, but it is part of your
immune system.
Autoimmune, so it attacks yourthyroid, but it is part of your
immune system.
It does impact your thyroid towhere it can trigger
hypothyroidism, which a lot ofwomen don't.
Just they don't know about that.
Um, so I actually figured thatone out because I did my own
research on it you diagnosedyourself I.

(13:59):
I kind of diagnosed myself,because even my first naturopath
didn't directly diagnose it.
She found my thyroid issues butI was like, yeah, there's
something else going on here.
So I actually picked up thebook by Isabella Weintz which
was Hashimoto's protocol, and Iwas like this is exactly what I
have.
I knew it like right when Istarted reading it and once I

(14:19):
started in like integrating herprotocols, I started to feel way
better.
So I only had to do hormonetherapy for probably two years
and then I weaned off of it andthen I haven't gone on it since.
I had my explant surgery, whichwas pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Wait.
So hormone therapy, is thattestosterone, estrogen?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
No, I just did HRTs, so it was just the replacement
therapies.
So I was doing armor thyroid.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Oh, armor thyroid.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, besides the food, what other things do you
suggest for women to do?
Like I, I, I, um, I feel likewe're exhausted all the time.
Yeah, like from when the kidswere really little, even now,
like they're older and they'reself-sufficient, but I feel like
I'm so tired from the thingsthat they require of me now at

(15:09):
their age.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah Well, the biggest problem I would say that
women don't really want toconfront is that we are alone,
and that's one of the biggestproblems that so many women hate
to confront about themselves isthat when we are alone, we
don't have those communities.
Like.
I grew up in amulti-generational house, so my
mom had the help of mygrandmother.

(15:32):
She was part of a church, sothe church helped out.
We were part of a youth group.
We were doing things to wheremy mom was not the organizer of
my entertainment, my sports, mylike.
My mom did not take care of alot of that stuff.
She was there, but she had thehelp of so many women that were
also helping her.

(15:52):
They were her village.
And that's one of the biggestthings I talk about in my book
is that we are such a neglectedand isolated demographic of moms
in today's society because wehave this brainwash effect that
we have to do it all alone.
And if you don't do it alone,you're a weak mom.
And that's kind of what I'vegained from just talking to a

(16:14):
lot of moms is it's like youhave to show this macho-ness
about yourself as a mother thatyou can handle it.
You can handle the pressure.
You can handle the stress, eventhough what kids do nowadays.
When I think back to what weused to do as kids, it's like my
parents were hardly involved inany of my extracurricular
activities.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
And now it's like and you come home and it gets dark.
Yeah, we weren't allowed tocome in until it got dark.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, there was no, and they never knew where we
were Like, where we were like,we have that 360 app.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
We're tracking our kids all the time.
Right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Like I know when they they're in college and I know
when they go to bed at nightbecause I can see oh kemp's on
emerson, oh jake's in hisapartment.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
It's so terrible, but I'm like I have peace when I
know that they're yeah, same forme with our kids ride their
bikes and, like our kids, we'regonna go to target and I'm like
they'll ride their bikes.
You know, go through fourintersections and bikes and
everything, but I'm always on,like my fine mile, like right,
they made it.
They made it to target we'renot in the news.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I love it when you say you're multi-gen.
What nationality are you?
Italian okay, see, I'm halfalso half mexican.
Yeah, it's very mexican veryfamily, yeah, yeah, hey, I I'm
gonna make a a weird statement,but I feel that I can cure your
autoimmune issues.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Give it to me, let's go.
It's going to be today, let'sgo.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (17:27):
I'm going to give you the key to it and I'm going to
say it's the stem cells that Iwas telling you about, oh yeah.
So autoimmunity.
There's many autoimmunediseases and a friend of mine
he's 34 years old he has hadpancreatitis and ulcer colitis,
which I think are autoimmunes,since he was 16.
Every year that dude would goin the hospital for two weeks

(17:47):
and be almost dead Every yearsince he was 16.
He's 34 years old.
I talked him into spending themoney to go with us to Cancun to
get stem cells.
It was two years ago.
He got stem cells and, havingwhat he has, he could not have
spicy food.
It's terrible, I don't want'tyou know it, just it's terrible.
It's.
I don't get graphic but it'sterrible.
So he went got stem cells.

(18:07):
That afternoon after stem cellsthe doctor said let's go to
this mexican food restaurant andgo eat some food.
And chris says I can't, I can'teat that stuff.
Doctor said you'll be fine.
He went ate that mexican food.
Never had a problem.
It's been two years he's beenoff meds, hasn't gone back back
to the hospital and I'm gettinggoosebumps telling you this.
He's been completely changedfrom one stem cell treatment for

(18:29):
autoimmune issues.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Wow.
So I've heard there's adifference between the stem
cells here and the ones you canget like maybe in Mexico.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
the embryonic Explain that maybe they're from the
placenta of a newborn, yeahRight, and they don't really
know what they are just yet.
Umbilical cord, umbilical cord,umbilical cord or placenta.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, not placenta, Sorry umbilical cord.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Sorry, wait a minute, hold on, what are you getting?
I'm like, what are you gettingover there?
No, and it's just a gamechanger what it goes.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
We're going to cabo in a few months.
Maybe we'll go down.
They have.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
They have one in cabo , but interestingly enough, we
were at a seminar.
John jay was hosting a stemcell seminar down in cabo um in
january and there were severaldoctors was it dr x which that
had an autoimmune?
Do you follow him on instagram?
I know?

Speaker 1 (19:24):
um, yeah yeah that had an autoimmune.
Do you follow him on Instagram?
I know, yeah, yeah, he had anautoimmune.
He was with it.
He wouldn't got stem cells withus.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Issue and he he like, cleared it.
He's good.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
I've seen Gary.
Gary was there.
Oh, Gary.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
That's amazing.
That's why I had to agree to MC.
I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
That's why I did.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Greedy MC.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
I don't want to be greedy, yeah, but wait, I want
to go back to the women thing,because, being exhausted, what
is your suggestion?
When you're exhausted?
I go to yoga.
That's my me hour.
I do meditation every morningfor 20 minutes just so that I
start off the day with peace andserenity.
What are some of the thingsthat you suggest for those?

(20:05):
Of us that are still exhausted.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
The funny part is you can do all the meditation you
want, you can go and secludeyourself all you want.
You could go on a full weekvacation by yourself and you'll
still come back and feelexhausted and overwhelmed.
So the reason I say we have tobuild a village and create that
trust is we were literally justtalking about how we are

(20:30):
basically stalking our ownchildren because we want to make
sure they're safe.
When you have a community of,it doesn't have to be just women
, but like Rick is my community.
That's how I kind of find mypeace and calm, because if I
didn't have somebody helping meout, a I wouldn't entrust my

(20:51):
kids being safe anywhere Likeour kids right now currently.
Our kids rode their bikes downto a mall that's about three and
a half miles from our house ontheir bikes.
I haven't once checked in onthem.
They just know to send memessages when they're leaving a
spot and getting to a spot, butthat's more so to just make sure
they don't get hit by cars.
But it's like it's a gilberttoo.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
You know that's a rough community.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
You've heard of the gilbert goons, right, but it's
rough but still but still Idon't feel like we have to
harass, like stalk my kids,because once I have built this
community just around my kidsand knowing that there are other
people out there that arelooking out for my kids, I'm
less stressed.
So if it's not just me havingto, like, keep on top of my

(21:33):
kids' entertainment, trust me, Isuck at it.
Still, I'm horrible at like notbeing able to de-stress myself.
I'm pretty bad at it.
Our lives are chaotic, but ifwe don't have enough people
around us that are helping usfeel like, don pretty bad at it.
Our lives are chaotic, but ifwe don't have enough people
around us that are helping usfeel like, don't worry about it,
we got it covered.
We're going to be there foryour kids If something happens
to your kids, I got you.

(21:55):
Like if you're out of town,that's fine.
Like you have to build thatcommunity because it does create
less stress for you.
Because I do look back to myhousehold growing up, my mom
didn't seem that stressed.
I know she was, but that was awhole other story because she
had a lot of mental issues.
But it was like she had lessstress because my grandfather

(22:16):
would drive us places, mygrandmother would cook us food
Like we had.
We had multifaceted adultstaking care of us all at the
same time.
It wasn't just my mom, and Ifeel like so many moms like you
and me in today's society, we'relike wearing 50,000 hats at the
same time and we're forgettingthat.
Oh yeah, you can go dosomething for me.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Let me ask you, because I ask her all the time.
I'm like what can I do to helpyou?
You have a way harder job thanme and I feel like I'm
constantly on.
But I'm like I look at what shedoes and I'm like I couldn't do
that job.
And so every now and then I'llkind of tap in, you know, like
the WWE, and be like hey can Icome in?

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, yeah, and it's like you have to do that.
And that's the hardest thingfor moms in today's society is
because we feel like we have todo everything, not to mention,
you know, I felt this as a mom,not like really earning my place
in society, because noworkforce looks at moms as if we
are worth a penny, like that'sthe sad part is, it's because

(23:21):
you don't earn a paycheck, soyou're not that big of a deal
and that's all.
And it's not to say that that'swhat society like is like
that's not what it, but that'show it does present itself a lot
, because there are still mennot these guys, I would
definitely say not these guys,but there are still men in our
society that look at astay-at-home wife and just sit

(23:41):
there and go.
What do you do all day?
Like you know, there are thosemen that still exist out there
and it is sad because there'swomen out there that do the same
thing too.
Well, it must be nice being astay-at-home mom.
Yeah, you want to switch livesper day.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
There are days during , when my kids were younger,
where I, let's say, I had theday off or she did something.
One day we even switched jobs.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
We did, we switched jobs and I would never, ever,
ever, ever, ever, in a millionyears ever want to do that.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
We should do that I want to do that we did.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
It was wild, he was terrible at it.
I wanted my job back reallybadly Because I was terrible at
his job Doing a morning show.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
I missed a lot in the mornings of my kids getting
ready for school.
I never got to really do that.
Occasionally throughout the 18years of them growing up, I
would be able to do that and itwas extremely stressful Getting
up, getting them ready forschool, making breakfast, taking
dogs for a walk, making surethey get to school, make sure
they have their backpacks, makesure and I was just like once

(24:44):
every couple months I can do itevery day, no freaking.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Like eight phone calls, like eight important
phone calls you took and had toprocess that right there just
every day.
I was mother fucked.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, mother fuck.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, I was like no freakingway, okay, so wait.
So build a community to helpraise your kids.
Eat food that has seveningredients or less, right, and
what else?
What else is the key to being awoman after kids and having a
healthy life?

Speaker 4 (25:08):
I think she was going to say lots of sex.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
That is actually very important.
I mean, I'm not going to lie,that's actually very important.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
See, you guys got that on camera right, we got
that.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Okay, hold it to it but it is your relationship with
your spouse or anyone that youare bringing into your community
.
Like your relationship needs tobe a strong community, like
relationship you have sex withthe community.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
No, not that level.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Not that level, that level but no, like relationships
, like creating strong bondswith other people and they're
like with your spouse,especially if you have kids, is
important because your kids aregoing to learn firsthand how to
be in a good, loyal, trustingrelationship from what they see

(25:55):
on a daily basis.
You can pound in your kid'shead verbally you can't be in
this relationship.
This person's a jerk, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, guess
what.
But if you're in that same kindof relationship with their dad,
they're not gonna listen to you.
They're gonna be like whateveryou're in this crazy abusive
relationship, why should I learnany different?
So it's like you have to reallywork on the relationship you're

(26:18):
in, not just for yourself butfor your kids.
You have to make sure it's asupportive relationship because,
guess what?
It takes more than one personto raise a kid.
Don't know if you're gettingthat theme right now, but it's
like it's it's relationships,but it's also, I feel moms can't
forget who they are, becauseyou were a person before you had

(26:39):
children and that's the biggestpurpose driven thing in life is
moms lose who they are.
Absolutely Like women become amom and then they completely
drift away from who they werebefore that and it's like it
took me probably six years tofinally be like okay, I'm

(26:59):
getting back into my groove ofbeing who I was supposed to be.
It took me, I had to take along pause, but it's like it's
okay to be a mom for a segmentof life.
Do you enjoy being a mom fieldevery day, but it is one of the
best jobs I would say I've everhad in my life.

(27:20):
It sucks at times, don't get mewrong.
It's not all like rainbows andbutterflies, it's.
It's really hard, especiallynow.
We have two teenage girls and apre-teen boy, so we're in that
battlefield right now, but it's.
You know I wouldn't pickanything else in my life right
now are girls harder than boys?

Speaker 1 (27:37):
boys, yes, that's what I hear A little bit.
I feel so blessed that we hadthree boys.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
There were some days I walk into my daughter's room
and I'm like, okay, I'm justwalking straight out, yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
But you know what?
It's nice, though, like I feelI grew up with three girls, um,
and so I have three boys.
But my boys and I have such agreat relationship I mean I talk
to them every day.
This one calls me every day at4.15 his time, 7.15 my time, so

(28:09):
I can always count on hearingfrom him.
Like Jake, this morning he's inVegas and I'm like I need a
pulse check.
Just let me know that you'realive and everything's okay.
So I love that about havingboys.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
What about their dating life?
What's your take on that?
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Well, I love that.
Well, we only have one childthat has a girlfriend right now,
and she's amazing.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
She's sweet and young .

Speaker 3 (28:32):
The little guy's a little bit of a player and he's
off to college in August.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Ohust, oh boy he was sneaking out of our doggy door
in the middle of the night to goto girls houses.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yeah, it was a little much to find them on security
cameras that's a problem whenyou have big dogs, right?
Big exits for kids.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Oh, and the dog the retriever rats him out every
time.
Every time he, that kid, doessomething wrong in our house,
the retriever is barking likecrazy and I come down and I and
I'm like, oh my God, he's gone,and then he's smart enough to
leave the phone so that we can'ttrack him.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
The phone says he's home.
The phone says he's home.
The dogs in the bed say he'snot home.
That's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, but you know, also back to your, I learned
this early on and that valuesare caught, not taught.
So that's I love that becausethat's important to us, like we
try really hard to be lovingparents and loving to each other
and work hard at that so thathopefully they'll go off into

(29:33):
the sunset with those valuesShow, don't tell.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
I mean, that's what we say.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Values caught, not taught, all of that.
But show, don't tell.
I tell people your kids will doeverything they see you doing
and they'll do almost zero ofwhat you tell them to do.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Right.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
So let them see you doing epic shit right.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
At the end of the day , cool stuff, exactly yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
So, Right now, pre-sales are on Amazon On.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Amazon.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
So it's only available through Amazon, but
you can go to my website, whichis pretty easy.
It's thereginasteelcom and youcan order on that.
There's a lot of fun littlebonuses that we worked our tails
off to get.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Once the pre-sale's over and it's out, it'll be on
Amazon.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yep, amazon, we're going to try to get it on some
shelves for sure, barnes, noble,some of them, some book
signings and stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Oh yeah, well, when you do book signings, let me
know.
I'll promote it any way I can.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
That would be awesome , that would be fun If you buy
10 more copies too.
Anybody that buys 10 morecopies gets direct access to our
OnlyFans.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
OnlyFans.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Stop it.
No, we're making a one.
We're making a one, no, right,hey, this is capitalistic
society.
We've got to make money on this.
Now, what about you?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
The product you and I were talking about, that you
were going to launch.
Is that talkable?
Can you talk about that?
Yeah, sure, I was trying totell my son about it and I
forgot.
I know it was four products.
Right, You've got the thing fordudes.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
That's awesome, this came out a little bit of boredom
.
When I sold blinds, my blindscompany, I thought I was just
going to be like, okay, no morebusinesses.
A second one, like I'm just andyou know my archetype doesn't
allow for that way of like justpulling back.
What really fulfills me iscreating, right.
So, and especially going in andcreating in areas I know
nothing about having blinders onand saying I know nothing about

(31:20):
this.
I'm not a chemist, I'm not aformulator, but I want to change
this for men, right so?
Yeah, so it's the four productsevery man uses every day.
It's your deodorant, it's yourtoothpaste, it's your soap you
know, hair, face, body soap inthe shower, and daily
moisturizer, and built to 100%standards at EWG, the
Environmental Working Group notoxic chemicals, nothing that

(31:40):
will mess with your testosterone.
My view on the men's personalcare space is that it's gotten a
little bit wacky and out ofcontrol.
Everything's triple berry,bergamot flavor or this
superhero thing that you seeOverly marketed, sensational,

(32:01):
when I believe most men are justlike get out of my way, like
I'm not in the shower to have aspa day.
I'm in the shower to just getclean so I can go do the stuff I
want to do Right and buildingthis in a real masculine way,
right.
So in a way it says we're gonnaship it to you every 60 days,
you don't have to ever thinkabout it, but doing it in a way
a little bit absurdist kind ofwhat?
How liquid death is done withwater, right, saying there's a
fun way to do this.
That grabs attention with themarketing, but also the heart of

(32:23):
it is it's clean product and itdoesn't mess with you.
And is it available now.
The soap's done.
We will be full launch in abouteight weeks with our full kit
and what's the name of it?
Regimen RGMN.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
RGMN, so you can go get a target, you can sign up
for?

Speaker 4 (32:37):
no, we're direct-to-consumer right now.
We've entertained some retailopportunities, but I think my
expertise is indirect-to-consumer.
That's what I've been doing forthe last 25 years.
Yeah, I believe you have bettercontrol of your marketing and
your voice to the customer whenyou are directly talking to them
, as opposed to when you go onshelves and stuff.

(32:58):
Now Walmart's talking to them,as opposed to when you go on
shelves and stuff.
You know, now Walmart's talkingto my customer and I want them
to see my voice.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
That's smart yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Man, that's a congratulations.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
You know it just reminded me of something when
you were talking about Iremember I went to your
Instagram and I saw a video of aguy that I met a couple years
ago, and then you just met himlast week, devin.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Devin oh yeah, how did you guys ask him?
Levesque, Levesque, levesque,yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
And I saw him and he was like opening up one of your
safes and pulling out thecraziest collectibles that you
have, yeah, and I think one ofthem was in Michael Jackson's.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Moon man, it was something right.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
You know, I mean when you don't like money.
I mean at the end of the day, Ilove what money does?
I love vacations and fun, doingfun, shit like that, but I just
don't like money.
So what do you do?
You end up buying batman numberone and michael jackson's moon
man and like I, I mean I'm themost eclectic collector you've
ever met between.
It started with baseball cardswhen I was a kid.
I still have a lot of cards, umbut it turned into like oh you
know, keanu Reeves, guns fromthe Matrix are for sale, let's
add those, you know, but it's acollection from that and it's

(34:07):
all in your safe, or is itprominently displayed somewhere?
I have multiple safes, saferooms, triple biometric lock,
bam cameras.
It's like Mission Impossible sohow do you?
Enjoy them oh, they're out.
I display a lot of it out, yeahand they're out.
I display a lot of it out, yeah, and they're always readily
available to me right there.
So we've got the video is.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Devin opens the safe and he's like holding his moon
man.
By the way, what's interestingabout the moon man is I work for
iHeartMedia.
That's my boss.
The guy who's the CEO is alsothe guy that invented MTV.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Well, this is the very first Moon man from the
very first MTV Music Awards in1984.
And this is the so MichaelJackson's Moon man.
This was for the for Thriller,for Song of the Year, so this is
like the main award.
This is like the Oscar for BestPicture, right.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Right as it relates to music.
Wow, I gotta get a picture ofthat.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
So Bob.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Pippin would be crazy over that.
Bob P, you'd freak out probably.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Yeah, I mean, it's like so when Michael Jackson
died, his estate sold all of hisstuff and I mean everything.
So we've got a pair of his tapshoes and I've got his hats
Really From tour.
But yeah, I mean, so the Moonman was just one of those unique
items that came up and said youknow, it was the intersection
of hmm, I don't like money, thatcosts money.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Let's add I don't love money.
Yeah, it's the most bizarrething yeah.
Jeez man.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
What about?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
you, Regina?
Do you collect anything thatyou put in the safe?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
It doesn't fit.
No, I collect a lot of olddance shoes.
That's about it.
They're my dance shoes.
He actually he's gone out ofhis way because he knows I'm a
huge old movie like moviemusical buff he's.
He's found a few of fredastaire, gene kelly.

(35:43):
He actually found my unclehermy's pan signature and bought
it in an auction, which is kindof cool because those don't
exist so her great uncle was achoreographer in hollywood.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
He choreographed uh, if you've heard of fred astaire
and ginger rogers, and hedoubled for fred astaire.
A lot in a lot of movies yousee fred astaire and it's not
fred astaire, it's hermes panright.
So that's where herchoreography background came
from, her love for that.
You know her upcoming in schooland going to school for that
yeah, but it's, that's what hecollects for me.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
He'll find like these old, like ran I don't even know
how to look at these auctionhouse.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
I don't know where to find them oh, and I, I know all
too well he knows them verywell so our house is fun because
boxes show up and I'm likewhat'd you get this time?

Speaker 1 (36:21):
yeah, what's your favorite musical of all time?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
my favorite musical, oh my gosh.
Well, with the new ones comingout, it's really hard because
there's so many good new ones,like hamilton is amazing, wicked
was awesome.
But my, if I were to go back intime in an old movie musical, I
would say I love Top Hat.
That's probably one of myfavorites because that was one
that he worked on with FredAstaire.
But there's old movie clipsthat a lot of people don't know

(36:47):
exist, like Me.
And the Ghost Upstairs was onethat he did with Fred Astaire,
which is one of the very onlytimes you'll see them dancing
together.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
He's your uncle.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
He's my uncle.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
And it's Hermes.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Hermes Pan together.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
he's your uncle, he's my uncle and it's her me, her
me's, pan, her me's, her me'span, just like peter pan.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Okay, her me's, uh, mine is west side story.
The original west side story myfavorite story is a good one.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
There was also an old one, I think it was called
ships ahoy where he's dancingwith with that jerry from tom
and jerry.
I remember that when I was oneof my favorite movies too.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Oh, I love it.
That is old school right, thatis so you found a hermy pan it
was you know, listen, we're inenough of these auctions, like
they'll have these, you know,secondary and tertiary items
that show up that aren't highpriced, but they just they're
there, right.
They came out in the state andit was like it's mixed in with
other stuff and I found one andI was like, okay, we got to buy

(37:38):
it right.
So her uncle won an Oscar.
He's won a couple Oscars, right.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, he had Oscar, emmy, Joffrey Bellay and those
are floating around there too.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
I'm on the look for that, by the way.
So if anybody knows whereHermes Pan Oscar is, let me know
In top dollar.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Do you know what the cast for right now?
The cast, the cast.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
I've got a few things .
What do they?

Speaker 1 (37:57):
need.
It was all over the news.
Last week I got Biff'shoverboard.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
I own that one.
They're looking for the guitar.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Oh, that he ripped with.
They can't find it anywhere.
And the whole cast, michael JFox freaking Doc.
They're all making videos going, if anyone knows.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
We can find.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Well, I can't believe that you actually have stuff
from Back to the Future.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
Oh yeah, I've got one of the actor's scripts.
I've got that.
We've got a few things I've gota Will and Grace script.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, what's the most expensive collectible you've
purchased?
Probably Batman.
I would say that's got to be.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Yeah, I mean Action Comics number one, which is
Superman number one.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
You have that one.
I have that one is 23 survivingunits or something on planet
earth.
Did you go to phoenix fanfusion?

Speaker 4 (38:43):
I have no no, you're not, you're.
So next level, yeah, yeah,obviously the most valuable is
um, the only remaining prototypeof the um apple macintosh
computer signed by steve wozniak, so the original apple mac.
What happened was they wouldbuild these and um steve jobs
was a fanatic about justdestroying these before they
went to production because hedidn't want any of the
technology getting out.
But Jobs kept one, steveWozniak kept one and a couple of

(39:04):
other engineers kept one.
So one of these came up forauction five or six years ago
maybe, and I was like that's aone-of-one, like that's a
collectible.
Is it big?
Yeah, I mean it's got its ownlittle carry bag.
I mean it's got like.
And the way it's distinguishedby being prototype is it had the
original five and a quarterfloppy before they went to three
and a half hard disks.

(39:24):
So it's the only Apple Mac thatexists with the, or vice versa,
maybe it's a hard floppy versushard, but yeah, signed by
Wozniak on the top.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
That's nuts.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Is that the only piece of technology you have?
No, I original iphones from2000s, that's five, six,
whenever that year was unopened.
Um, there's maybe 20 examplesof those that exist that is so
interesting but space andexploration too, is another
thing I collect.
I've got, you know, a lot ofneil armstrong's original moon
landing stuff, so his baseball,his patch where he went to the
moon with, I've got his coolestthing I think I have, which I
may be able to either prove thatthe moon landing was real or

(40:01):
not that would be, because thatthat is his handwritten notes on
the lunar space module for allthe azimuth, and you know math
that they did to get that moduleto land on the moon.
So I'm gonna get that withsomebody that knows what the
hell to look at one day and belike.
Is this real?
Yeah, so it's his trainingguide that you flip through, and

(40:23):
he's got his own handwrittennotes in there too of it.
So did you.
Both are so fast like what theheck?
We don't like money.
She likes money.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
I don't yeah, I love money yeah, no, no.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
She likes preserving money.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I liked it's preserving money, because you
also collect cars.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
I have, yes, a lot of cars.
How many?

Speaker 1 (40:42):
cars do you have?

Speaker 4 (40:43):
I used to have 52, I think.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Now I'm down to, I think, 30.
Have you seen, rob?

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Walton's garage.
Oh God, yes, and I got a RobWalton story for you.
Oh Jesus, I was just thereweeks ago.
We're at a political fundraiserum, I won't say who for,
because this isn't a politicalyou know thing, but it was for
nikki haley.
So, um, we so we're friendswith craig and carolyn jackson
we're at this politicalfundraising thing.

(41:10):
I go up to rob walton he's gotrob, you know, everybody has
their name tags.
He just says rob, right, and Igo up.
I start talking to a rob.
I'm like hey, what did you sayto him?
You went up and what was yourcomment?
I don't even remember.
I just remember she said hi,I'm Regina, nice to meet you.
She said what do you do for aliving?
And Rob's response was I'm inretail.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah, that's what I asked.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
That's what I do, and I looked at her and I said
honey, he is retail, he's not inretail.
He's like the OG retail inretail.
Oh gee, retail.
Right, rob's not in retail, heis retail and she goes.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
What I said wall, she goes.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
I said walmart yeah, I was like oh, walmart, yeah,
walmart yeah, I'm the least.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
I don't recognize famous people.
I don't know any like I couldliterally be.
We were at dinner with nickjonas, one of our friends.
We were talking to him afterhis play and it was hilarious
because I don't know much aboutthe jonas brothers.
I don't stalk people on theinternet, it's just not what I
do.
So I asked him at the table I'mlike, how long have you and
priyanka been married?
I was like I jokingly said Icould google this, but I don't

(42:14):
like to internet stalk people.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
So can you just tell me how long have you guys been
married?
Yeah, I was their firstinterview.
No, no way.
Oh, wow, really, I'm in theirmovie.
That doesn't age you at all.
Oh, you are.
It doesn't age you at all.
They've been singing since theywere three, I know.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
I was their first radio interview.
I think they were 16.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Wow 16.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
And we've done a lot of stuff with them, a lot of
stuff.
I actually told her I beggedtheir parents, kevin Sr, because
we had three boys and they havefour boys.
I was like you need to write abook on parenting.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
I said please.
That's what she said.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Yeah, yeah, she said the same thing to her mom.
Yeah, nicest people.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yeah, they were all homeschooled and everything I'm
like I need to learn from you.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Please tell me your ways.
Well for me like to have thesethree boys.
I was always curious to like.
Hopefully, you know like theywould grow up and be friends,
but they also beat the hell outof each other every day.
So I remember talking to JonasBrothers at one point.
I was like so when you're youguys, now that you're as old as
you are, do you guys fight?
And I'll never forget Joe Jonassaid that Nick Jonas took a
pencil and stabbed it all theway in his quad and it went all
the way through his quad.
And I was like okay, I don'tthink my kids have done that.

(43:27):
Then we interviewed RyanReynolds he's one of four boys
too and he said his brothershoved his head through the
drywall and poked a hole in it.
I was like okay, that hasn'thappened yet.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
Thank God, so far We've got to egg.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
We don't have the violence, yeah so I feel like
we've done a good job as far askeeping the peace in that
department.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
I have a brother.
We didn't always fight, but youknow, we lived in a trailer and
he was on this side of the roomand I was on this side of the
room.
We lived in the same bedroombut we had our twin beds on each
side.
But it was a battle, like andhe's bigger than me, but we
would, you know but we love eachother.
I mean like there's noanimosity.
I think it's just what you dowhen your brothers and your kids

(44:04):
wait, so you grew up in atrailer grew up in a 14 by 70
trailer in ohio yeah and now youown michael jackson's moon man

Speaker 3 (44:14):
you need to write a book.
We're in ohio dayton cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
So on the Ohio River area.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
That's where he started his career WKRQ.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
Q102, cincinnati.
Yeah, so, living in this littlemaybe we talked about this, but
I lived in this little town 30miles east oh, yes, called
Shiloh.
Yes, because you went backthere.
60 people was our population ofour town.
Like my dad ran for mayor oneyear and he was a landslide loss
.
He lost by four votes.
Population of our town.
Like my dad ran for mayor oneyear and he was a landslide loss
.
He lost like four votes, youknow.

(44:45):
So it was like 30%.
But yeah, we grew up there.
My dad worked at power plantsso he would go in and when a
power plant was built we wouldmove right.
So kind of.
You know these power plants arebuilt on rivers, right, so you
move up and down riversessentially.
So we live in Indiana and Ohio.
Pretty much most of my, I wouldsay, kid teen up until when I
went off to my briefs in collegelife.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Wow, we love Cincinnati.
Yeah, we do I got so fat inCincinnati.
Yeah, Gold Star Chili, GoldStar Chili no.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Grater's.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Grater's ice cream was the best in the whole world.
We still order it.
The Rose's Pizza I still can'tfind a pizza.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
The closest I see out here is espinados.
Yeah, I still try to find that.
Uh, the roses, I don't knowwhat it sounds like cinnamon,
cinnamon, something.
Yeah, it's just so funnybecause your dad gave us a whole
case of the sauce one year.
I'm like, oh yeah, so muchsauce well, you know what's
funny is?

Speaker 3 (45:35):
we went on when we first got there because we had
just gotten married.
We went there like three weeksafter we got married and we'd
never been really away from home.
And so they took us on a tourof food in Cincinnati and they
took us to Skyline and they'relike, oh, it's chili, but it's
kind of a different take onchili.
And we're like, okay, I mean,it was the biggest plate of
spaghetti with this chili on topof it yeah and like four bags

(46:00):
of cheese on top I was was likewhat is happening here?

Speaker 4 (46:03):
What's that do Like the three-way, the four-way, the
five-way, the car right whenit's different stuff.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
It was insane and then you eat it all and then you
don't work out ever.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
No, that's what we did, that's true.
No, we never worked out.
I never saw anybody work out inCincinnati.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
I think it's like I think about it.
I don't think at all in my 30sthat I ever exercise, or my late
20s, early 30s, because we weremoving.
We're in cincinnati, we're inhouston, and I see how important
it is now.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
I mean, you've run marathons, you do crazy stuff,
right so you've always been in Imean, I was athletic as a kid
and then, much like, I think, alot of guys stories as you get
in your 20s you don't doanything right and same for me.
Like I probably didn't do muchfrom mid or late 20s to right in
my early 40s, I would say I, Imean like the.
The road to like Ironmanliterally started 12 years ago

(46:52):
where I got back out and didanother 5k and I'm like, okay, I
can do a 5k and it was a 10k.
And then it just, you know,when you're hard charging, when
you start getting you know kindof latched on to something
that's important to you, you'relike, okay, I can do more, I can
do more, I can do more.
And then it, you know, turnedinto iron man triathlons and
running marathons around theworld.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
So yeah, am I allowed to tell him what your nickname
was?
What?

Speaker 4 (47:12):
was my nickname.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Our buddy jay gave him a nickname yeah, go and tell
him I forget chunky rick.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
Oh yeah, that's hard.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
I'm 170 now, but I think I was 205 or 210.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
So.
I have a little neck and youknow pudgy.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Which was funny, because when I met him I was
dancing about eight hours a day.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Because I was still going to dance school.
She's ripped, she's super fit.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
I don't know a while, but my cousin just yelled at me
a couple weeks ago saying youneed to set up your dance floor
and get out there for at leastan hour a day.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
I was like fine she's incredible Ballet, jazz,
tapping, she does it all.
Do your kids dance too.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
We do.
Well, our oldest was a gymnastand then our second daughter
she's actually a theater girl,so she, her tap is crazy to
watch because she didn't starttapping until two or three years
two years ago, maybe, yeah andshe's 13 now or 14, yeah, but
yeah, she's 14 now.
But it's so funny to watch hertap because I'm like man you

(48:15):
dance just like hermes too likeit's so crazy because she picks
it up so quickly and it's notall of our kids do actually.
What do you do for exercise?

Speaker 1 (48:22):
if you're eating, do you do for exercise?
If you're eating right, youhave to exercise right, and you
did hell on the hill.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Yeah, well, a majority of my exercise is the
neat, like most moms, is thenon-exercise activity, whatever
that last word is I can't everremember it.
No, it's like tech, blah, blah,blah.
But it's like tech, but it'slike, literally, I'm never
sitting down.
I don't sit down during the day.
I am constantly moving around,I'm picking up stuff, I'm

(48:47):
cleaning the backyard.
We've got chickens.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
I take care of the chickens she still goes for a
little run.
Yeah, hikes, and yeah, becauseI see your runs, you post them.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Sometimes they're like no freaking way like yeah,
he's crazy.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
No, I'm not at that level.
No, no, do you?

Speaker 1 (48:59):
drink coffee yes, you do, because I just read an
article about how great it isfor women to drink coffee it is.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
It's actually good for your brain too what do you
like?

Speaker 1 (49:06):
what a cup of?
What do you make it yourself?
Where do you get?

Speaker 2 (49:08):
it I, so I literally start my day off.
Every morning I get rice coffee, my mushroom coffee I drink
first thing in the morning aftermy cup of water, and then I
have um purity.
I order purity it whole beans,we just grind them in our coffee
grinder.
But I get it on Amazon becauseit's a clean, organic,
third-party tested, because Iactually started noticing I

(49:29):
would get headaches from coffeeand we were drinking the
Nespresso pods.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
Yeah, and you heard about what these Nespresso pods
can get Like they can get moldin them, and you don't even know
that there's mold inside yourpods, depending on the climate
they're sitting in or whatever.
But you've got ground coffee ina pod.
It's air sealed, but if it'ssetting in the climate, same as
a Keurig.
Right, yeah, same as Keurig.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
And the coffee beans they use are full of pesticides
and gross chemicals which I havefound I'm extremely sensitive
to them.
I've noticed that with my wine,because I'll drink red red wine
, not like all the time, butwhen I do, I always drink that's
the secret.
That's how you keep afloat.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Right came in last night, like after like we came
back from sedona last night andlike she was in the house for
like five minutes and there's aglass of wine, I'm like.
I mean it was long drive home.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
We're on.
I want to watch.
You know, I was like, yeah,she's driving back and I drove
back or I flew back with my sonand I'm like I mean, it was a
long drive home, the Tony's wereon.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
I want to watch.
You know, yeah, she's drivingback and I flew back with my son
and I'm like we'll beat youguys home and the flight is 26
minutes from Sedona and we're athome and they're still at, like
Berry Divine getting acai bowls.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Yeah, that was a long drive home.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
It's the best right, acai bowls are good for you,
right?
Is it healthy?
I don't know.
I know it's a sugar bomb.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
I think it's sugary right, but every time I have one
I'm just like this is thecleanest I can be eating,
because I'm trying to.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
There's a place that opened up by us.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
It's called Playa Bowls and they have.
Yeah, izzy loves them.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
And then they got coconut base and then I got a
bowl and I thought it tasted sosugary.
I thought this can't be goodfor you and I haven't been back
since.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
But if you tell me it's good for you, I'm going to
go back.
It's good once in a while.
It's kind of like ice cream.
I'm not going to tell people toswear off ice cream, but once
in a while it's a good treat,right?

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Playable is one of the sponsors of the podcast.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yeah.
Leslie calls those things,because there was a truck that
came to Jesse's event that had abanana base and she calls it
nice cream, yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Nice cream.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Nice cream.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Those are actually really good.
I actually love banana icecream.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Yeah, I thought it was really good.
I've never had the banana basebefore.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Yeah, it's easy too.
You just cut up a banana,freeze it for 30 minutes and
then blend it up.
Yeah Boom, did you?

Speaker 4 (51:40):
just play wiffle ball at Jesse's.
Did he do that in the side yard?
Mm-mm, we always have thiswiffle ball game before Hell in
the Hill and it's 100 guys willstep up to the plate and it's
just.
I don't know how you eliminate.
You get to keep rolling backaround and getting hits.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
You hit until people trying to catch your ball
essentially like it's gettinghits hard right and then it'll
rotate through and and the kidsusually crush the adults, of
course, at it, but it's fine,yeah well, I want to say thank
you guys for coming and being onour podcast.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
I mean the first time .
Her and I did it.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
I think you were awesome this is the first one
that's amazing it's the firstone that we've done as a couple.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Yeah, as a couple we've done um you know you've
never been on the podcast withme before.
Have you Interviewing somebody?
No, not interviewing somebodyI've interviewed you before, but
I'm not sure when we're goingto drop this, but if it comes
out, Amazon search forMotherFuck.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
MotherFuck, motherfuck With the star.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yeah, with you.
Yeah, because I know trying tosell, oh my god.
My job for the next, howeverlong it is, is going to be I'm a
bookseller.
I'm building a men's personalcare line there you go.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
That's what we're doing.
Well, I want to help you sellthe books.
Yeah, I think.
Honestly, I will say you know,I wrote a really bad book and
let's say that, compared to whatshe wrote, this is incredible.
But this she, this needs to bein a million women's hands like
it's that good, it's incredible,like she did an amazing job.
So your book is out.
You have a book out.
I've had a book out for a while.
It's called 30 days to launch.
Um, it's been out for five orsix years now about building a
business 30 day, basically warplan to going from like I just

(53:14):
have an idea to help me have areally shitty business in 30
days, which is what it will be.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
She's starting a business, yeah yeah, do you guys
have a dog?
oh, we do yeah, so we have lovepup foundation oh, I know yeah
dog shelter and over the last 11years I have figured out that
we can spay, neuter and we canmicrochip all day long.
But what's happening is peopleare still turning in their dogs
after they um, after they adoptthem, and the problem is is

(53:43):
they're confused.
So they go to the internet,they try to figure out what to
do with their dogs and theycan't figure it out because
there's 45 different.
You know responses to what theywhat they're asking, and so they
turn the dogs back in and wehave a dog that's coming in
tomorrow because it it nipped atan eight-year-old.
They've had the dog for eightyears.

(54:04):
I'm like what?
Somebody wasn't watching thedog.
Something happened, and if youweren't watching what's
happening, maybe you could havegone to Love Pup Plus and
figured out.
This is what you can do.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
So it's Love Pup Foundation.
She started Love Pup Plus,which is an app.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
It's going to be an app.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Right now it's a website, but it's gonna be like
anything to do with your dog.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
How old is your dog?
Oh, nine.
So if you're like, hey, it'llgive you updates.
Right, your dog right.
We start at gotcha day we startat gotcha day.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
We go through the life of your dog.
It has a personalizedexperience.
It has content, um, ai,component and um, and then we
have recommendations for productoh, that's amazing.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
Yeah, it's gonna be cool and it's at its beginning
stages now.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
so if you go to lovepupppluscom, if you wouldn't
mind signing up as a lovepupper it's, it's free then
we're going to be askingquestions and doing beta testing
and all that's very cool.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
That's very cool.
That's so cool.
Yeah, so you're just matchingdogs with foods and temperament
and what to expect, becauseyou're right, like after 80
years, something weird doesn'tshow up with a dog in a family.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Right what to expect when you're expecting.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
Right or the bump.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
It's exactly that for dogs.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yeah, for dogs, which is awesome, but then there's
also the content and and allkinds of videos and cool stuff
too, right, yeah, well.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
I think I might have told you, but I've got a
25-year-old.
She's rescued dogs here in theValley since she was before she
could drive 16.
She's rescued 4,000 dogs on herown.
She's been held at gunpoint.
She's been everything that'sawesome.
I've been almost held atgunpoint with her rescuing dogs,
but she's a champion for rescue.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
That champion for rescue.
That's what she does.
Our dog, every dog we've everhad, has been from Kylie.
Did you say she specializes inthe Malinois?
Now she's trained in Malinois.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
So she trains Malinois for basically secret
service.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Those are the most amazing dogs.
No, no, we have a boxer bulldog.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
A boxer bulldog mix yeah, 90% boxer.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
and 10% bulldog Wow.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
He's a baby.
That's awesome.
He was a little rescue.
Yep, we have six dogs, it's toomuch.
It's a chaos of my house.
Yeah, Kylie's pro Six is a lot.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
My daughter has like 14 personal dogs.
Oh my God, she's got a lot.
Yeah, Because she will like.
It's impossible, it justbecomes her dog.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Yeah, yeah because she yeah, Dude, we've got to get
her to the shelter.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah, I know We've got to get her over to the
shelter.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
That would be so cool .
Oh yeah, That'd be so great.
Because she's still, she'llstill rescue.
She's a dog magnet.
I mean like is like walking toa random Walmart in Oklahoma.
It's like there's a.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
How about her?
In Vegas, there's a rescue.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
It happens to me all the time.
It happened in California.
It has never happened to me.
I'm pretty observant of mysurroundings, right, I know I
was watching my son play and Iran into a lady that was the dog
radar right.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Dogs and people come to her all the time she called
me down.
I was like no, you can't like,can we take in their dog?
Can she live with us?
No, I know I was gonna takethis lady's dog in.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Well, yeah, I'm still working on that and he's like
she cannot live with us, butyou're well, because she's in a
domestic abuse situation.
I was like, oh, I feel so badfor her and blah, blah
unbelievable anyway, okay.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Yeah, mother fucked amazon, buy it, okay.
So welcome to our podcast.
This is a little bit differenttoday, because this podcast is a
spin-off of our radio show.