Episode 8: Navigating Negative Self-Talk & Embracing Worthiness

Ever feel stuck in a loop of negative self-talk? Wondering why those inner doubts keep surfacing, no matter how much you’ve grown? In this episode, Jordan and Vanessa dive deep into the nature of self-talk, exploring how to break free from limiting beliefs and step into your full worthiness.

✨ Key Takeaways:
🔹 Why negative self-talk feels so painful (hint: it’s because it’s not true).
🔹 How your thoughts shape your reality—and how to shift them in real time.
🔹 The Emotional Guidance Scale and why unworthiness ranks near the bottom.
🔹 A powerful tool to disengage from limiting beliefs (The A.U.R.A. Process).
🔹 How to embrace compliments and see yourself the way others see you.
🔹 Why self-worth isn’t based on achievements but on your inherent connection to Source.

Using personal stories, fun analogies (hello, RoboRock and Goddess Mode 🏹), and practical tools, Jordan and Vanessa show you how to replace limiting thoughts with empowering beliefs—no more “whack-a-mole” mindset!

By the end of this episode, you’ll have a deeper understanding of how to stop self-criticism in its tracks, activate your true vibrational frequency, and fully own your infinite worth. 🌟

🎧 Listen now and start shifting your self-talk today!

💬 We’d love to hear from you! What’s one thought you’re replacing with empowerment? Share in the comments or visit VibrationFit.com/Coaching to submit your own question like Lin did for this episode!

Together we're fine-tuning the process of conscious creation, and having a whole lot of FUN while doing it!

#ConsciousCreation #Worthy #SelfWorth #EmotionalGuidanceScale #VibrationFit #TheJordanAndVanessaShow

Episode Transcript

Vanessa (00:00):
Welcome to the Jordan and Vanessa show.
I'm Vanessa and I'm Jordan andtoday's episode is about
navigating negative self-talk.
Yes.
This episode was actuallyinspired by a really great
friend and mentor of ours, lynn,and a lot of these episodes now
are actually being stemmed byfriends and family and from the

(00:23):
forum on our website atvibrationfitcom slash coaching.
So this conversation we hadwith Lynn at breakfast the other
day and she was just asking howdo you navigate this negative
self-talk whenever it comes upduring your day, whenever it
kind of floods your mind,especially if it's something
that you grew up with?

(00:43):
Maybe other people in your life, like spoke these's something
that you grew up with.
Maybe other people in your lifespoke these negative things
into you and it became part ofyour identity and you still
struggle with them so differentpieces of your identity that
come up throughout your day thatyou're kind of plagued with.
How do you take those things andshift it into something that's
productive, that's positive,that makes you feel good about

(01:05):
yourself?

Jordan (01:06):
Yeah, and I really appreciated that from her,
because this woman is like amagician.
She's magical, she's a literalmagical entity on the planet.
She's a Reiki master.
She's been trained in all theseshamanistic-type practices.
She's very advanced inspiritual healing.

Vanessa (01:24):
She's very light.
She's got this very beautifulenergy about herself.

Jordan (01:28):
Yeah, she's amazing.
So the fact that even she stillnavigates negative self-talk at
her level of consciousness isjust affirmation that guys,
we're all dealing with this.
Yeah.
You know what I mean.
It definitely is the situationwhere all of us have both wolves
inside and the one that wins isthe one you feed.

Vanessa (01:52):
Right?
Yeah, totally.
No matter where you are in life, no matter how much you've
achieved, no matter what's goingon, there's always the
opportunity to focus on howincredible you are and how you
are source energy or how awfulyou feel like you are.
Yeah, totally, and really thedifference between those are is

(02:13):
just a gap, because I feel likesource is always focused on the
fullness of you, on howmagnificent you are and all of
the things that you are capableof.
And anytime you entertainanything else, anytime you let
this negative self-talk kind ofrun rampant in your mind like
toddlers with scissors, thenthat's going to feel very

(02:35):
painful because that's not truth.

Jordan (02:39):
Yeah, you totally nailed it.
And if source is always goingto be focused on basically the
absolute, most beautiful,amazing version of you and the
emotional guidance scale isessentially an indication scale
letting you know whether whatyou're focused on is in harmony
with sources perspective or notThen when you veer from that

(03:00):
amazing, beautiful version ofyourself and your own mind,
you're going to feel the pain.
Definitely you are going tofeel the pain.

Vanessa (03:05):
Definitely you are going to feel the pain, and
that's why negative self-talkfeels so bad.
If you look at the emotionalguidance scale, negative
self-talk is actually at thebottom, Like there's 22 emotions
on the emotional guidance scaleat the very top, the first
emotion being joy, empowerment,so that those are the best
feeling emotions.
At the very bottom, you havenumber 22, which is fear, grief,

(03:29):
depression, despair,powerlessness and negative
self-talk.
I believe fits in at emotion 21, which is insecurity, guilt,
unworthiness.
Yeah.
Unworthiness.
Unworthiness is the big one.
So, not feeling like you'reworthy of your desires, or
feeling that you're worthy ofthe incredible things that are
in your life, or attracting thethings that you have the desire

(03:51):
to attract.
So negative self-talk reallylives in that unworthiness
emotion, as well as hatred, oryourself like self-hate.
How many of us startentertaining these negative
self-talk thought loops thatreally make you start hating
yourself or hating differentaspects about yourself and guys,

(04:13):
that's never going to feel good.

Jordan (04:15):
No, and I've definitely been there a lot.
I'm definitely an inwardattacker of self when it comes
to self-deprecation.
Yeah, self-deprecation, or likewhen situations arise in the
world like I've always wanted toempower myself so much so it
was very not in my nature toblame or put it outside myself

(04:38):
for the solution.

Vanessa (04:40):
So I went personal responsibility, personal
responsibility.

Jordan (04:43):
I learned early on in entrepreneurship that you need
to take personal responsibilityfor your own life, and sometimes
, mixed in that energy is sortof everything's on me.
I got to figure it out.
If I'm not getting it done,then you're just not enough.
You need to be more, you needto be better, you need to be
stronger, you need to be faster,you need to be leaner, you need

(05:04):
to be smarter, you need to bebetter, you need to be stronger,
you need to be faster, you needto be leaner, you need to be
smarter, you need to be whatever.
And if you're not those things,then you're a piece of shit.
Dude, you suck.
You know what I mean?
yeah, it's like whoa whoa, thatwas a really fast spiral, yeah,
you went there really fast andit's like well, if you want to
be more than you, if you want toexperience more than you've got
to be more, and you've got tofigure it out.
You're not enough yet.

(05:25):
You're not enough yet.
Maybe if you go take some moretraining or take another course
or lift some more weights or dosome more pushups or read
another business book orwhatever, then you'll be enough,
but right now you're not enough.
And that whole unworthiness spinthat you just nailed.
Talking about the emotionalguidance scale, like I've been
there a ton in my life I don'tknow if any other entrepreneurs

(05:46):
can relate to that, but I'vedefinitely been there a lot
because, like, I just couldn'tdeal with the idea of my success
being out of my control in someway, so I would just inwardly
try to find solutions ratherthan looking outside myself to
blame any circumstance or anyperson for wherever I landed

(06:08):
Right.

Vanessa (06:09):
Yeah, I feel like one of the most powerful
affirmations is just I am enough, I am worthy.
I am worthy as I am forwhatever it is that I desire in
life.
Totally.
Like I am totally enough andthat is super powerful, just to
step back and see that, like oneof the things we said in
business too, is I get paid forbeing me.

(06:30):
Instead of feeling like, oh, Ihave to do all of these things,
I have to action my way thereand then I'll be enough, we
would just state I get paid forbeing me.
And.
I feel like that has beenreally powerful in our business
endeavors even.

Jordan (06:45):
Yeah, and I think this actually brings up a really good
point, which is where does yourworthiness come from?
Where does worthiness come from?
Does it come from all theachievements that you've
achieved in physical reality?
Does it come from the amount ofmoney in your bank account?
Does it come from the amount ofmoney in your bank account?
Does it come from the car thatyou're driving?

(07:06):
Does it come from howattractive your spouse is?
Does it come from then?
I won.
Yes, that would be awesome.

Vanessa (07:16):
Yes, I'm now worthy of everything, if all my worthiness
came from that, then that waslike.
I did it.
Oh my goodness goodness.

Jordan (07:23):
But like, how many kids you had like, like where does it
come from how tall you are, howstrong you are, how much weight
you can lift, like, like, wheredoes worthiness come from?

Vanessa (07:32):
and I feel like the well is different for everybody.
Their worthiness, well, yeah,the worthiness so when you go
that route, yeah you're lookinginto physical circumstances as
some sort of a validator?

Jordan (07:44):
for whether you would be worthy to receive or not as a
qualifier, as a qualifierExactly and 100% different.
People have different stuffthat they base their foundation
of worthiness on.
Right.
And the reality is none of thatis what qualifies you as a

(08:05):
worthy entity to receive in thephysical universe.
Right.
You are infinite source energy.
You are the projection ofinfinite energy into physical
reality.
Yeah.
You're not separate from.
You are the physical extensionof infinite energy, and that

(08:26):
infinite energy is connected toGod, source energy.
You're an individual unit atthe same time that you're a part
of the whole, and saying thatyou're unworthy in any way as a
piece of that amazing lightwould be the equivalent of
saying that God is not worthy toreceive.

(08:47):
Most people would say that'sinsanity.
Yeah.
You know what I mean.
Like, whatever you spin it thatway, it's like oh no way would
I ever say something like.
That's crazy.
You don't say God's not worthy,are you nuts?

Vanessa (09:00):
You know it's like but if you come back to the
realization that you are onewith God and God is everything,
then there's nothing that youare unworthy of.

Jordan (09:09):
Precisely so.
Worthiness is inherent withinall of us.
It's in all of us you areworthy.
You were worthy when youphysically projected into this
physical plane of pursuingwhatever desire was interesting
within you, because that's howthe physical universe is set up.

(09:31):
We're all creators.
We're all physicallymanifesting cool things into
experience based on the uniquedesires that are called forth
within us called forth within us, and you were worthy when you
showed up.
You're still worthy now.
No matter what comes up in yourhead about the qualifiers that
society has taught you.

(09:51):
If it doesn't feel good, it'sbecause it's the infinite part
of your consciousness saying Idon't know where you picked that
up, dude, Right, but none ofthat stuff matters.

Vanessa (10:04):
Yeah, where you pick that up, dude Right, but none of
that stuff matters, yeah, andthe law of attraction is really
just connecting you withexperiences that match whatever
you're feeling about yourself.
So if you feel like, forexample, if you feel like you're
an awkward person, maybe thatday you get connected with a lot
of conversations with differentpeople that are awkward and
it's just validating thatthought, that negative self-talk
of oh my gosh, I am an awkwardperson yeah, I'm a personal joke

(10:29):
laugher, like I'll make a jokeand laugh hysterically loud.

Jordan (10:34):
Yeah, regardless of what people around me think, and I
feel like I've had plenty ofthose in my life where I'll be
like at the grocery storecounter or something.
I'll be like these strawberriesare huge, like laugh, and then
just look at me like you're areally strange duck, aren't you?

Vanessa (10:51):
I'm like, yep, I'm leaving now, bye yeah, how many
times do we replay those things,those social interactions later
?
Yeah, I can't believe I saidthat, or I can't believe I did
that.

Jordan (11:04):
I'm such a dummy.

Vanessa (11:06):
But yeah these are all like these negative self-talk
loops that we have going on inour heads all the time and then
we just receive manifestationalevidence from it.
I believe that's just theuniverse saying I love you.
This is what's going on in yourvibe right now like what do you
feel like shifting it?
Because there is another way.

(11:27):
There is another path where youcan experience more fully who
you truly are totally.

Jordan (11:33):
I won't be joining you in that strange little awkward
party you're having withyourself that's what source says
it's like you're, you're good,you're worthy, you're still
whatever.
But how often do we do that?
Where you like, leave theconversation, or you leave the
interaction, or whatever You'relike, stupid stupid, stupid.
Why would I say something likethat.
I can't believe it.
Why am I all of a suddenlistening?

(11:54):
I can normally speak totallyperfectly.

Vanessa (12:00):
Yeah, it's like, but it's so true.
It's always there for us.
We can either choose thenegative self-talk or we can
choose the empowerment and oneof the exercises I like to do
that.
You might laugh at me for this,but I like to imagine myself as
like my infinite self, as likea goddess.

Jordan (12:20):
Yes, and I like this narrative.

Vanessa (12:23):
It's goddess Vanessa, like she's beautiful, she's
perfect, she's extremelyconfident.
Yes.
She's all-knowing and wheneverI feel that negative self-talk,
whenever I feel less than orunworthy, I like to think of
this infinite self, thisinfinite Vanessa, this goddess,

(12:45):
and just think about what, whatshe is, what is her essence.

Jordan (12:49):
I think I projected that image into your mind.
That's what's that's how I seeyou.
That's literally like what youjust described.
It's like what I think aboutall the time.

Vanessa (12:58):
It's almost like an Amazon woman, like from Wonder
Woman, yeah, and that's what Isee.
So I see this beautiful,perfect, whole Vanessa this
infinite self and I literallyasked the question what is she
like, what kind of qualitiesdoes she have, how does she
behave, how does she carryherself?

(13:19):
And whenever I feel out ofalignment with myself, I start
pondering those things, I startasking those questions and I
start getting clarity on what itis.
I've already become yeah.
Because a lot of times it'sjust stepping into what you
already are.
Yes.
And then, once you step intowhat you've already become, I

(13:42):
believe that the universe givesyou situations to experience
yourself fully as what youalready are.

Jordan (13:50):
Yeah, I completely agree .
Because that's why we came hereto experience ourselves as the
wholeness, as the fullness ofwhat we truly are in
non-physical yeah, totally, andthat actually brings me to a
really good point of, I think, areally good exercise If you
really want to hit a negativeself-talk scenario head on is

(14:17):
really just to engage that muchbigger, broader energy really
fully, really dynamically, asbig as you can, for lack of a
better word.
You want to totally encompassthat infinite version of
yourself in your own mind andjust allow it to completely take
over yourself.
So you want to focus as much asyou can on all of your amazing,

(14:43):
beautiful qualities and if, forsome reason, you've allowed the
manifestational physicalreality to become your qualifier
for worthiness.

Vanessa (14:58):
You know like if you're in that energy at all.

Jordan (15:00):
yeah, then lean to what you just said of okay, maybe I
don't feel qualified based onwhat I'm physically experiencing
here, but if I am the physicalextension of infinite
consciousness and that is God'ssource energy, and God is worthy
of all things, so I am worthyof all things and I see my

(15:22):
worthiness is coming from thatpart of myself, Then what are
the attributes of that part ofmyself that I could focus on?

Vanessa (15:30):
And even just acknowledging that that exists.

Jordan (15:32):
I feel like that's so empowering.

Vanessa (15:34):
Just taking yourself out of this spiral, out of this
just negative feeling place, andjust taking a step back and
looking at the broaderperspective of it all and
acknowledging that that infiniteself exists yeah, I agree
that's so empowering to me a lotof times what happens I almost
visualize it where I think aboutthe source, energy part of

(15:58):
myself and the physical part ofmyself merging.

Jordan (16:01):
And the more that I'm focused in that energy of
acknowledging what I truly amand my true nature, the more
those energies get to merge andblend to the point that you have
like a vibrational titration ina way, or like a vibrational

(16:24):
mixing between, like yourfull-on, infinite consciousness
and your physical.
And the closer they get, themore you can feel it and
actualize it and you just get tofeel that worthiness like right
here and now, and I kind ofthink about it like channels you
know, like there's AbrahamHicks.
You know, esther Hicks is achannel of Abraham, yeah, and I

(16:44):
see it kind of the same way likethere's.
Abraham Hicks.
You know, esther Hicks is achannel of Abraham, yeah, and I
see it kind of the same way,like she's been able to bridge
her infinite self and you knowthat energy, that upper level of
her consciousness with herphysical reality, to the point
that she can literally speakthrough the physical apparatus
with that you know, clarity.
She can actually translatevibration into words, exactly so

(17:08):
like whether you're channelingin that way or not, like I kind
of think about myself channelingthe infinite part of my
consciousness into me all thetime, just by allowing that to
fully be present with me now sothat I can experience life in my
fullest energy and power.

Vanessa (17:25):
It's really allowing expression right, so allowing
our infinite self to expressthemselves fully.

Jordan (17:33):
Yes totally, it's like the ultimate expression.
Yeah, you want to feel like youjust had 87 cups of coffee?
Yeah, get you a big old dose ofthat.

Vanessa (17:42):
Yeah, so it's really fun to acknowledge that that
infinite self exists and invitethem into your present moment.
Yeah, absolutely.
So when you find yourself atthe bottom of the emotional
guidance scale, when you findyourself in this negative
self-talk, just inviting yourinfinite self into the current
moment and being like this iswho we fully are.

Jordan (18:03):
If I choose to engage that, then that will be awesome
yeah totally and I feel likethat energy, there's a huge
cleanup effect, essentially likewe have this example of the
Roborock vacuum.
When I first got the Roborockyou got it for me for my
birthday First off, it blew mymind I was like a robot is gonna

(18:25):
clean my floor, you know.
So before I started using it, Iwas kind of like I need to clean
up the floor, like I need toclean up the big areas, like I'm
.
If there's any big mess orwhatever, I need to go like deal
with that first I need to dothe clean before the clean,
absolutely, absolutely, and thenone day I had this like flip in
my head.
That was basically like howabout you just let Roborock do

(18:48):
its thing?
How about you let this roboticvacuum go do the best it can
just on its initial pass, andthen you just deal with what's
left?
And what was remarkable to meis the first few times I tried
that I came down it was like, oh, there's nothing left to deal

(19:09):
with.
Yeah, you know what I mean,angels voices.

Vanessa (19:11):
Yeah, like, literally like what happened down here.

Jordan (19:14):
I feel like that's what happens whenever you engage that
side, just like you weretalking about.
You create this Amazon womaninside your own mind and you
engage it and you allow it to befully present with you here in
physicality and you just allowthat worthiness to merge right
here.
Then, all of a sudden, a lot ofthose previous feelings of

(19:37):
unworthiness that were beinggenerated and qualified by your
physical means and physicalreality just disappear, because
you just feel so worthy that youjust are not going to find
fault with yourself in the sameway that you were before.
So it's like letting the Roborock come through and do a big

(19:57):
clean and then coming down todeal with whatever's left and
realizing there's nothing left.
I have full worthiness righthere, right now.
I have it accessible 24-7 andI'm just going to choose that
now and then boom Right.

Vanessa (20:12):
I am the truth, I am the light, I am all of these
things that I choose to beTotally.
Have you ever had theexperience where somebody is
giving you these complimentsabout these things that they see
in you and you're almost caughtoff guard?
You're like really, you seethose things in me, because I
really don't see those things inmyself, right, and it just to

(20:37):
me.
It brings up this huge point ofthese things always existed.
I always was those things.
Yeah.
It's just, I don't allow myselfto see myself in that way, like
this negative self-talk isbetween me and who I fully am.
Yeah.
It's like in business there's abig like.

(20:58):
One of the big ideas inbusiness is that the business
owner is the biggest constraint.
If the business owner just getsout of the way, then the
business can thrive or it can goto the next level.
So how many times in our ownlife are we our biggest
constraint?

Jordan (21:14):
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, we're just looking atourselves in a particular way.

Vanessa (21:18):
Right.
Others perceive us in acompletely different way.
Yeah.

Jordan (21:22):
I remember a commercial, I think it was.
Dove did this commercial?
And basically, they just puttwo people in a room with each
other.
That were perfect strangers.
Right.
And they would let them interactfor just a very short time and
then whenever they came out,they would ask them what do you
remember about that person?

(21:42):
Like, how did you perceive thatperson?
Basically Right, and it waspretty much 100% across the
board, like really positive andnice people would find things.
It's like well, they wereactually a really lovely person.
I really like the way theylaugh.
They had really pretty eyes.
Their hair was really nicelydone.

(22:04):
They were well-dressed, likewhatever it was.
But these people just had thistotal focus on, like, the
positive side of them, and thenthey would interview the person
that they were describing andask them to describe themselves.
And whenever they told them todescribe themselves, the person
would almost immediately go intotheir flaws.

(22:26):
You know like they would say,like describe your face or
whatever, and they'd be like,well, I've got you know like
crow's feet and I've got kind oflike dark circles and you know
I've got blemishes, and theywould kind of hone in on that.
And then they would in thisexercise.
They kind of like played backwhat the other person saw in
them.
That, and then they would inthis exercise.
They kind of like played backwhat the other person saw in

(22:47):
them and the people were likereally emotional about it yeah
oh whoa, and I think that wasone of the best commercials I
ever saw because it just reallybrought to light this inner
struggle that really everyone issort of dealing with yeah of
just like being honed in andfocused on what we would

(23:08):
perceive within us to be flawsand um, and how painful that
really is.
And whenever the outside worldis looking at you, they don't
see any of that.

Vanessa (23:20):
So how come we can see the best in others, but yet we
see the worst in ourselves?
Why are we our own worst critic?
Right.
And I believe it's because itlike in society, we want to fit
in and we feel like we're notgoing to fit in if we kind of
gloat about the best thingsabout ourself, about all of the

(23:42):
positive aspects of ourselves.
So we feel like it would beeasier to connect with people if
we talk about all of the thingswe don't like about ourselves.

Jordan (23:50):
Yeah, there's kind of this, don't brag.
Yeah.
You know like, oh, thatperson's really into themselves.
They're a narcissist.
Yeah.
You know they can't seeanything around them but
themselves.
Right, you know there's sort ofthis narrative of like you see
someone with not enoughself-love that's kind of

(24:12):
self-deprecating.
Then it's kind of like a ohgood, they're not being
braggartly, they're not anarcissist, they're not too into
themselves you know they'reconcerned about what's going on
around them and how other peoplethink about them they're in
their place.
They're in their place, exactly,but then you see this other
side and the person's just likeI'm amazing, I'm good at

(24:34):
everything, I'm so awesome, yeahyou.
And then all of a sudden it'slike, oh, you went too far, dude
.
Now you're like now, you're abraggart, you're a narcissist,
you're a this, you're that.

Vanessa (24:47):
It can definitely rub people wrong, like if they're
below the green line and you'redominantly above the green line,
then it can be extremelyuncomfortable For those people
Because they'll Well, they'rebelow the green line and usually
jealousy.
Yeah.
It's like what do they havethat I don't have?
Or.
Like.
These are all of the thingsthat I'm going to find fault in

(25:08):
them now, because I wish that Iwas there but I'm not, and I
feel the disparity there.

Jordan (25:14):
Yeah, 100%.

Vanessa (25:15):
It's this really weird societal thing.

Jordan (25:18):
Yeah, and I think you just nailed it in the fact that
when someone's below the greenline and someone else is above
the green line, there's justthis disparity there and people
feel negative emotion becausethey're focused on that person
in a certain way.
Yeah.

(25:39):
Their source is not focused onthat person in that way they
feel negative emotion, butgenerally what happens is they
use that to affirm theircorrectness about that.
So it's like that person is abragger, that person is a
narcissist, that person blah,blah, blah, blah, blah.
Whatever the narrative is, yeah, that makes them feel better.

(26:01):
It's hard to even come up withthe words.
But yeah, you know, I'm sayinglike they're.
Basically I mean that and thenobviously they're going to feel
negative emotion from thatbecause the infinite part of
their consciousness is notfocused on that person in the
way that they are right, andthen they feel like super bad.

Vanessa (26:11):
And then they're like yeah, I'm kind of like, I'm like
yeah one of the frameworks weuse in our life whenever
situations arise like that is.
Every attack is from a point ofinsecurity.
Totally.
And put another way hurt people, hurt people.
And something I've beenthinking a lot lately is

(26:33):
empowered people, empower people.
Absolutely.
And you've also said recentlyfrom Alex Ramosi, a quote that
he says he says hate does notcome from above.

Jordan (26:45):
So people that have more money than you, that are
stronger than you, that are moreprosperous than you, that have
more success in a particulararea in physicality than you,
are not hating on the way thatyou're doing things.
Right.
You know, hate generally comesfrom below.

Vanessa (27:04):
And when you acknowledge that, I feel like
that's really powerful.
We used to say all the time wedon't take advice from people
who aren't living a life that wewant to live.

Jordan (27:13):
Yeah, totally, I mean in a particular area.
Yeah, in a particular area.

Vanessa (27:16):
Yeah, In a particular area, like if they don't have
the relationship we want, we'reprobably not going to take
relationship advice from them.
If they don't have the type ofbusiness that we want, probably
won't take business advice fromthem or money advice If they
don't have the type of financeswe want or if they don't have
the type of body we want, weprobably won't take body advice
from them, so we've reallyapplied that to all areas of our

(27:38):
life.

Jordan (27:38):
Yeah, and it's really just take the best of what you
see and encapsulate that and thethings that aren't in harmony
with who you are, you don't haveto encapsulate that.
So, I actually like that when itcomes to looking at anyone,
really focusing on the absolutebest of the best, of the best
that you see and identifyingwhat those things are and just

(28:02):
really honing in on that aboutpeople.
I've tried to do that in mylife is just find the absolute
best of the best of the best inpeople.
When others would try to kindof muddy the water and bring
negative connotations to peopleor bring negative conversations

(28:23):
about people to me.
Yeah, like I always just kindof remind myself of what you
just said.
Every attack is from a point ofinsecurity and it's not my job
to feed this person's insecurity, you know, to validate their
jealousy.
And I just kind of look at itlike I'm source energy and I'm
just like well, it's interestingthat you would see it that way

(28:48):
Like I see it this way and thisway and that way.

Vanessa (28:49):
If your intention is to feel good, then your work is to
decide to disengage fromwhatever those things are that
are coming at you to disengagefrom whatever those things are
that are coming at you, totallyso.
If it's, if somebody isaffirming your negative
self-talk, then your job, ifyour intention is to feel good,
is to decide to disengage fromthose ideas.

Jordan (29:07):
Yeah, definitely, and I feel like going to the light is
always met well energetically.
So I remember one time I was inhigh school and I had this
experience where I was sittingnext to a person in class and
they were kind of being likenegative, like I guess I was

(29:28):
trying to engage them, likemaybe talk to them, whatever,
and they were just kind of beinglike eh, and they were in a
different crowd, I guess, than Iran in and I remember him just
point blank saying to me thething is, I really just don't
like you.
He just said that I really don'tlike you, Wow.

(29:51):
And the people in his circlethat were all in the room saw
that as the diss my gosh.
The people in his circle thatwere all in the room saw that as
the diss you know, and like alot of times in high school and
middle school and whatever,you're validated for being able
to diss people well you knowyeah.
So the whole oh and laughterfrom the peers, whatever like.

Vanessa (30:12):
Ensued.
Ensued, you know.

Jordan (30:15):
And so in a way like I've just been attacked.
Yeah, but even back then I knewevery attack is from a point of
insecurity.
So I just looked back at it andI said that's too bad, because
I like you just fine, and I wentback to what I was doing.
Yeah.
It was like all good, like youcan have your perspective, you
can have your choice.
You've made your decision inthat matter and now you've made

(30:37):
all your friends laugh, tellingme that you don't like me, but
I'm not going there with you.

Vanessa (30:43):
And that really freed you.
Yeah, it did.
So, instead of being below thegreen line and coming back with
something that would make youfeel guilty or like fear or
whatever it is like an emotionbelow the green line, you just
released yourself from that andyou put the power back in your
own court.

Jordan (31:01):
Totally Well, and it was really just because that's the
truth.
Yeah.
Like I don't see negativity inyou.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
I still see positivity in that person, but
you know what was really?

Jordan (31:10):
interesting is that from that moment on I guess because
I didn't engage in the insecurepart of myself that would have
made the dis land.
You know, like whenever you seethe person sort of bend down or
break as a result of the dis,like oh my gosh, my emotional

(31:33):
state is now impacted by yourperspective about me, then
that's what perpetuates it,because hurt people, hurt people
.

Vanessa (31:42):
Yeah, when you become a good punching bag, then they're
going to continue to come backand punch the bag Totally when
they see that you're emotionallyimpacted by them attempting to
validate themselves by twistinginto your insecurity then, they
come back for more, and whenthere is none of that, then it

(32:06):
has a tendency just to cease.
Yeah, so it'll dissipate orthey'll find somebody else.
Yeah exactly who's a match.

Jordan (32:13):
Yeah, who's a match to that.
But, like I said, going abovethe green line, finding the best
in that person, finding thebeauty, finding the good things,
is an exercise that has justalways worked for me, even that
person, for example, like I canstill think of good things about

(32:33):
them that I appreciated Likethey were really smart, they
were popular, people liked them.
Like still of good things aboutthem that I appreciated, like
they were really smart, theywere popular, people liked them
Like still really good things.
Yeah, but that was for me.
Right.
It wasn't for them, like Ididn't make a notebook of all
the things I like about thisperson so that I could go
deliver it to them.

Vanessa (32:51):
And be picked on further.
Yeah, totally.
But even thinking about thatlike that is that's so
empowering what you did.
But thinking back to even thattime like nothing happens, that
you're not a vibrational matchto you.
So, maybe you were feeling likea victim or something that day
and then that was like theperfect vibrational match.

(33:12):
And maybe they were feelinglike a bully that day.
And it was just this perfectvibrational dance of these
things coming together and yougetting to experience yourself
as that and them getting toexperience themselves as what
they were, and then, but you hadthe choice.
You chose to not take that onas negative self-talk and

(33:32):
perpetuate it to where, threedecades later, you're still
dealing with it.
You decided to just take thepower back in and remind
yourself who you truly were, andremind yourself who they truly
are and just keep that at theforefront, like this is the
truth.

Jordan (33:50):
Yeah.
So that's kind of aninteresting idea.
Like, when you have, like thesenegative experiences, does that
mean, like you're out ofvibrational harmony with who you
are?
And every time you have likewhat would be perceived as a
negative experience, that thatmeans you've got to go do some
vibrational cleanup.
So like, oh my gosh, I had thislike I thought that I was doing

(34:11):
so good.

Vanessa (34:11):
I thought I made it way past all of these things.
Why is this showing up againand again, and again, yeah.

Jordan (34:17):
Like why did I just have that experience?
But like looking back, I seethis moment and that wasn't a
negative experience for me.
Right.
You know what I mean.
Like even now it could beperceived as negative by someone
like, oh man, that was reallymean what that person would say.
I mean they literally justpoint blank said they didn't
like you in front of all theirfriends and made them all laugh

(34:38):
and like whatever.
That was a vibrational match towho they were and that is great
.
But I got to be a vibrationalmatch to who I was, so really
came out to be an opportunity ofempowerment, like you said.
So I don't see that event as anegative experience.
I saw it as an opportunity tobe empowered and remember who I

(34:59):
was.

Vanessa (34:59):
To experience yourself more fully as who you truly are.

Jordan (35:02):
Totally, and there's a lot of that that happens in the
world of.
How are you perceiving theseevents and experiences that you
have?
Yeah.
What meaning are you attachingto them?
And some people will takethings like that and they'll
attach a different meaning to itand then that's sort of that

(35:26):
hurt people, hurt people.
Train of bullying that happenswhere you know that person
thought that about me.
That must mean that I'm notgood enough, smart enough worthy
.
I'm certainly not worthy ofbeing in their friend group you
know, like whatever it is, andthen it just starts that train
of self-deprecation.

(35:46):
So when you see that begin tohappen in any way, we actually
have this really great phrasethat we use a lot, which is
isolate the incident.
So essentially you can bookendany experience that you choose
to front and back vibrationallyand make a decision about how

(36:13):
you want that to impact yourlife going forward whenever you
revisit that mentally, about howyou want that to impact your
life going forward whenever yourevisit that mentally.
So sometimes it feels likedifficult to isolate the
incident.
If you don't have this paradigm, if you don't have this idea,
things can just bleed into thenext thing, into the next thing,
into the next thing.
And then there's this dominoeffect where this experience now

(36:34):
pushes 15 hours into the future, 15 days into the future, 15
years into the future.
You know what I mean.
Because it started this dominoeffect of things falling over,
falling over, falling over andself-deprecation, whereas if you
can isolate the incident andjust say that's what that is or

(36:59):
was, and oh, every attack isfrom a point of insecurity.
I hope that they're doing okayyeah because there's pain there,
right you know, and you canhave a little bit of compassion
and just move on.
That's a totally differentexperience than looking inside

(37:20):
for all the reasons to validatewhat they just said to you, you
know, and start this negativeself-talk of like well, why
don't they like me?
Oh, what is it about me?
Oh, and you just kind of, itgets ugly fast.

Vanessa (37:34):
And the irony is that, at the same time that you're
doing those things like layingin bed restless at night, trying
to sleep and all of thesethings are playing back in your
mind, everyone else is doingthat too totally if they're not
vibration fit yeah, and you feelfor a person that was feeling

(37:56):
that way, to the point that theywould actually like materialize
it into words and direct themat a person.

Jordan (38:03):
Yeah, and attack them.

Vanessa (38:06):
Right, they must have been feeling way below the green
line, totally so.

Jordan (38:09):
Like you think, that person goes to bed at night
feeling great.

Vanessa (38:13):
With rainbows and butterflies.

Jordan (38:15):
Yeah, feeling great about what they said to that
person.
Yeah, you know what?
I mean Like just doing that.
So that chain of pain is justsomething that I choose not to
perpetuate.

Vanessa (38:27):
personally, Right, yeah , and I feel like it's really
rampant in school as kids arediscovering who they are and
they're going about likenavigating their emotions and
trying to figure things out andmaking sense of the world,
making sense of theirrelationships, maybe with their
parents or with their family orwith their friends, there's a

(38:48):
lot to figure out.
It's like earth school yeah,you're still trying to figure
out how to be human.

Jordan (38:54):
And I think that's.
I have a huge passion for kids.
Obviously we have kids, and ifmy kids could have one thing
when they go to school?
I just want them to have thisdeep inner knowing of worthiness
.
I want them to know whereworthiness actually comes from.

(39:14):
I want them to know that they'rethe physical extension of
infinite consciousness and thatthey were born worthy and
they're still worthy, they'regoing to die worthy and they're
always going to be worthy,because you're a part of source
energy that the entire physicaluniverse erupts from, and
there's nothing in that that'sunworthy, dude Right, and
nothing about this physicalreality or anything that anybody

(39:36):
says, or any judgment that theywould make about you and cast
towards you, or stone that theywould throw on you, is going to
change that.
If you can get that deeplyembedded in a person, then
they're empowered.
Then you don't have to worryabout the stones that will be

(39:56):
cast, because they're not goingto allow it to impact their own
feeling of worthiness and thatown knowing.
Totally so, but I feel like allthose people that are out of
the vortex, so to speak andthey've forgotten who they are
and they've allowed someone totrain them out of their inner

(40:16):
knowing of worthiness.
That's for lack of a betterterm, just a bummer to watch.
Yeah.

Vanessa (40:23):
It's sad because you know they're experiencing pain
because they're not lined upwith the infinite part of their
consciousness, totally.
So you know there's pain there.

Jordan (40:30):
So the more we can empower kids with this knowledge
of worthiness.

Vanessa (40:35):
fundamentally, and empower ourselves and empower
ourselves with this knowledge ofworthiness and, fundamentally,
empower ourselves and empowerourselves with this knowledge of
worthiness, I think the betteroff everybody's going to be.
Definitely.
One of the things that Lynn wasmentioning was specific phrases
that we can delete from ournegative self-talk, so things
that really perpetually keep usdown, that keep us below the

(40:59):
green line, that if we don'tdecide to disengage, they kind
of go rampant and turn into aspiral.
So what is your take on that?

Jordan (41:07):
So this actually brings up a couple of ideas, one of
which being a lot of times inthe spiritual space, you'll find
this like idea of deletion,where whenever you see a thought
that doesn't serve, you all ofa sudden you need to like,
attack that thought and deleteit.

Vanessa (41:26):
You know what I mean.
Yeah, it doesn't exist.
It doesn't exist.
It's not me.
Click, click, click, click,click, click.
I don't see it.
It's like I don't see it, Ididn't see it.
I didn't see it, I didn't hearit.
It's like our three-year-oldplaying hide and seek and like
she's obviously sticking outfrom like under the door, Like
her toes are all sticking outand she's being very loud.

Jordan (41:45):
Yeah, totally.
But she's like I'm not here.

Vanessa (41:47):
I'm not here, Don't look here.
It's like I see you.

Jordan (41:52):
Yeah, totally so.
Like first off, with theconcept of deletion.
First off, we live in aninclusion-based universe.
If a thought has come intothought form, so it's actually

(42:26):
been able to manifest from justvibration into an actual
physical thought that you couldperceive, that you could
potentially put words to, thatyou could even speak out of your
mouth.
That thought form exists.
There is no deleting it, right.
You're always going to haveaccess to it first off so when
this concept of like deletioncomes up yeah, for me it's
futile.
Of like deletion comes up yeah,for me it's futile because there
is no deleting something out ofthe universe, you know what I
mean.
So, rather than deleting it,which actually just applies more

(42:53):
energy and momentum to it,right?
So whenever you go try todelete something, you're going
there's this thing that I don'twant to exist, that I don't want
to engage, and I need to go dosome phrase or do some process
or do something to try to wipeit off the face of the earth,
off the face of the universe,out of consciousness.

(43:14):
I need it to disappear acrossall time and space forever
because it keeps coming up.

Vanessa (43:21):
So it must be there.
It must be this big, hairymonster that I need to beat with
a baseball bat until it goesaway forever do you have a
magical baseball bat that Icould like mystically beat down
all of my neck, doesn't?

Jordan (43:34):
that sound so satisfying it does.
I want one Like.
If you ever like, I feel likethat would be like the movie
that we would make.
It's like he's come across thestick of destiny that would
allow him to magically destroyand delete every negative
self-talk.

Vanessa (43:52):
Yeah, you have self-talk Whack, whack, whack,
whack, whack.
You have self-talk Whack whack,whack, whack, whack.

Jordan (43:56):
But the reality is it's kind of like one of those little
gopher machines that you see atthe Whack-a-mole.
Yeah, like whack-a-mole yeah.
Like you see at the arcades,it's like whack, whack.

Vanessa (44:07):
The moles keep coming up.
Yeah, they just keep popping upin other places.

Jordan (44:10):
Yeah, or like one of those squishy balls that my kids
have, like you squish one thingand like a whole other thing
comes out like sticks out.

Vanessa (44:20):
another way it comes out of the mesh.

Jordan (44:23):
Yeah, that's like deleting, that's like trying to
delete a thought, like it's justno matter how hard you squeeze
or how hard you hit it with ahammer, like it doesn't go away,
it's still there.

Vanessa (44:34):
Because the more focus you put on it, the more it's
going to present itself.

Jordan (44:38):
Yeah, definitely.
So, there is no requirement todelete from the universe.

Vanessa (44:45):
That's a bottomless rabbit hole.

Jordan (44:47):
Absolutely the all thought that's ever been thought
still exists in the ether inthe electromagnetic ether of
consciousness.

Vanessa (44:58):
Right, like it's all out there.
And the more you've thoughtthose thoughts, the more
vibrational momentum around them.

Jordan (45:04):
Absolutely.
In fact, if you think about,like, what mass consciousness is
, mass consciousness is sort ofa database of all that thought
form that's available and whatmost people are in vibrational
harmony with is those thoughtforms.
So they perceive them, sort ofpick up on the vibration of them

(45:26):
, put them to thought in theirown mind that they can put words
to, and then out the mouth theycome.

Vanessa (45:33):
It's kind of like fast food.
It's an easy grab.
Yeah, totally they come, butit's kind of like fast food,
it's an easy grab.
Yeah, totally.
So it's like it's like you knowit's not the healthiest for you
, but it's really easy.
It's there, yeah, available,totally.

Jordan (45:47):
And it's in vibrational harmony with where you are and
when you think about massconsciousness.
That's where the majority ofthe planet is right.
Right, the majority of theplanet 95 unconsciously creating
totally.
They're just running throughthe drive-through window,
picking up on mass consciousness, not being aware of what
they're engaging yeah, not beingthe conscious creator of their

(46:09):
reality where they're looking atthat thing they're grabbing and
then making a decision aboutwhether it serves them or not
whether they're going to includeit in their vibration or not,
but just basically blindlygrabbing whatever they have
vibrational access to.
So for me personally, massconsciousness is not where I
want to engage, because themajority of that is met with low

(46:31):
end vibrational feelings Likelow end on the vibrational scale
stuff, and it's not fun for meto live down there.
I like to live above the greenline.
So, essentially, deletion isnot required.
If it was required, you'd haveto delete all of mass
consciousness.
Can you imagine?

Vanessa (46:51):
Yeah, you're gone, you're gone, you're gone.

Jordan (46:56):
Yeah, it's like.
It's like one of the avengersmovies, like, what like, where
the guy like gets all thesestones and finally he can
squeeze his hand and eliminatelike half of the population of
the universe.
You know, that's actually amovie that's out there like the
avengers endgame or whateveryeah but like that's not

(47:16):
required no it's not necessary,because you're always going
recommended and it's notrecommended.
Yeah, like attempting to wipeout all the negative stuff
that's out there that's notserving you is impossible and
pointless.
And just because you had thatshow up in your own mind doesn't
mean that it's something thatindividually needs to be

(47:37):
isolated and killed right, andthen you're also not, you're not
practicing, living in yourpresent moment totally you're
focused on the fear of the past,absolutely in the future you
just nailed it so that the fear.
Why would someone feel the needto delete this thought form

(47:58):
that just showed up?

Vanessa (48:00):
I believe, because they feel the negative emotion of
the gap between where they arein their infinite self and
they're afraid that they'regoing to continue to feel that
way.

Jordan (48:10):
You nailed it.
It's fear.
I'm afraid that this will showup again if I don't kill it now
I need to go to the source of it.
I need to pluck it out.
I need to go to the source ofit, I need to pluck it out.
I need to pull it like a weed.
I need to watch it die in frontof me so that I can experience
peace.
Yeah, and never be bothered bythis thing again.
Right.
And the reality is there's justan infinite amount of thought

(48:32):
form that matches the samevibration as that thought form.

Vanessa (48:40):
Yeah, that's available to you.
So people come up with crazythings.
Maybe if I conduct the exactright thought form funeral, then
I'll never have to deal withthis again.

Jordan (48:55):
I'll never have to deal with this again.
Brr, brr, brr, brr, brr, brr,brr, brr, brr.
Yeah, this is like, totally like, if I can make sure that this
thing is 60 feet down and deadthen I'm safe.

Vanessa (49:10):
I'm safe Until the next one arrives.

Jordan (49:12):
Totally so.

Vanessa (49:15):
That's not freedom, guys.

Jordan (49:21):
That's not freedom, man.
Like that's not above the greenline, like conducting thousands
of little mini, mini funeralsfor your negative funerals.
Yeah, thought for funerals foryour negative thoughts is not
the path um not too consciouslycreating or joyously creating.

Vanessa (49:37):
Let's remember the purpose of life is joy here.
Totally.

Jordan (49:40):
So if we move out of this idea that deletion is
required which is great, becauseit's impossible.
Thought form is still out thereand it's still available.
And even if you were able tokill that individual one,
there's plenty of thought formthat would match it.
Right.
You know, available to youalways.

(50:01):
So what's a better framework toengage is?
It's all about what's activenow, so it's not about deleting
something that didn't serve you,it's about activating something
that does.

Vanessa (50:17):
Your WAN right?
Is that how you say it?
Your WAN?

Jordan (50:19):
What's active now?
W-a-n.
I think it's funny because it'salso the acronym for Wide Area
Network, which is kind of like aWi-Fi term anyway.

Vanessa (50:29):
Yeah, for you computer geeks out there.

Jordan (50:32):
Yeah, it's like the signal kind of related thing,
but yeah, so rather than havingto delete everything that comes
up when I think about isolatingthe incident, I basically am
just choosing not to perpetuateit forward.
So I'll have these little microevents that happen, and, by the

(50:53):
way, this happens to everybodyall the time.
And, by the way this happens toeverybody all the time, we
actually still have a relativelyprimitive brain, you know, that
is designed to look for threatall around us, and that's one of
the reasons why we can stayalive you know, so don't beat
yourself up whenever reallyweird thoughts that are
fear-based come in.

(51:14):
You know like what if thatsemi-truck just all of a sudden
flies through the air, throughmy windshield?
It's like ah your brain will doweird stuff like that.

Vanessa (51:22):
Well, there aren't that many centuries between us, and
like Neanderthals, oh yeah.
Yeah, people like the Croods.
Yeah, totally.
We basically just got here,yeah.

Jordan (51:32):
It's like this iteration of the human body, yeah, yeah.
So at the end of the day, itreally is about just isolating
that, and what I like to do isdisengage.
We've talked about this, soVanessa has a really great
process called the aura process.
There's an entire podcastdedicated to it and there's also
resources available atvibrationfitcom it's all free

(51:56):
where you can download theprocess.
You made a really cool documentand stuff, but in the tuning
section yeah, in the tuningsection.
So essentially this is sort ofthe disengage, unplug section
where it's just like I'm goingto be aware of it.
And then what I do whenever Ihave that weird primitive stuff
come up is I try to provide likea little bit of a grateful lean

(52:21):
to it.
Like, thank you, like, thankyou, primitive brain.
Yeah.
For making me aware of apotential danger that's around.
But we're safe.
Everything's cool.
You know, like this morning I'mchanging Eloise on her changing
table.
Everything's cool, you know.
Like this morning I'm changingEloise on her changing table and
my daughter, adeline, is beingan absolute maniac in the crib,

(52:41):
jumping from the changing tableto the crib and basically
entertaining the baby.

Vanessa (52:46):
Living her best life.

Jordan (52:47):
Living her best life Her best three-year-old spicy life,
while I'm like trying tonavigate this diaper.
And it's a solid three and ahalf feet from there to the
floor.
You know, so my brain watchingthe mayhem is going.
Is the baby safe?
Like this is not safe.
The baby could fall off of thisonto the floor and you know

(53:10):
what could happen if the babyfalls from here that height to
the floor, like you should be—.

Vanessa (53:15):
My fight or flight.
Chemicals are running rampantI'm either gonna have to fight
my three-year-old right now.
Yeah, take my baby and runtotally.

Jordan (53:24):
It's like this crazy and you're like jordan, are you
nuts?
And it's like yeah, I guess alittle bit, you could say it's
like the primitive brain isidentifying yeah threat and when
it comes to your offspring,it's almost like more intense
than your own personal body.
It's like you do not mess withmy offspring, like you can mess
with me, but like do not messwith my offspring.

(53:46):
That's how it?
is in the wild too.
Like they always say, mama bear, like the last thing you want
to do is roll up on a mama bearbecause, she's got her cubs.
Oh yeah.
And she will just absolutelyrip you apart limb by limb if
you even sort of threaten hercubs anyway.
So I get this around, the kidsyeah.

Vanessa (54:05):
Daddy bear.

Jordan (54:06):
Daddy bear, yeah, and whatever you want to call that.
So I basically will see thatand I'll be like thanks but no
thanks, kind of thing.
Like thank you, the baby's safe, she's safe, I got her.
Thank you, baby's safe.
And then this happens likemaybe 17 times in a row, because

(54:27):
Adeline's jumping into the crib, jumping back up.
Is she going to step on thebaby's face?
Like what's going on?
Does she know?
And she's just still learningabout physicality and how things
work.
Like is she going to knock thebaby off the tail?
Like what's going on?
Yeah.
It's okay.

Vanessa (54:45):
Baby's safe, like what's going on.

Jordan (54:47):
Yeah, it's okay, baby safe.
Yeah, baby safe, thank you baby, I'm deciding to disengage from
this and then I engage in thesafety.
So if the fear is around thenon-safety of the baby, I engage
mentally in the safety of thebaby.
Right, the baby's safe, baby'ssafe.
I got her.
I got my hand on her, like ifit makes, I got her.
I got my hand on her.
Like if it makes you feelbetter, I'll put my hand on her.

(55:07):
You know, primitive brain, it'sokay.
I got her.
You know she's safe.
I'll put this little strap overher, that's why I came with the
changing table apparently Likeclick that on and now you
actually have the opportunity todisassociate from that as being
like a part of yourself.
Right, you know, it's like thatwas like primitive brain stuff.

(55:47):
Yeah, like that's not a pieceof my identity.
I'm not a fearful person, it'sjust my brain jumping in going
hey man, there's like a straightup threat right here.

Vanessa (55:50):
Yeah, I'm not going to judge myself for being human.
Yeah, that's just a naturalpart of it.
I feel like that's reallyhealthy.
The aura process is awareness.
Unplug, replace, activate.
So, you become aware of thething, you decide to disengage
from it.
By unplugging, you replace itwith something that is
productive, that is a feelingthat you want to engage, and

(56:13):
then you activate it.
So whenever it comes up in thefuture, you have something that
you can return to, a vibrationthat actually felt good and it
resonated with you, that you canreturn to again.

Jordan (56:25):
Totally.
I think it's fun doing thiswith you because we never had
acronyms for stuff before ourprocesses.
But it's amazing the number oftimes I perform the aura process
daily around little things likethat, where I'm like you find
something activating and youbecome aware when you feel the

(56:47):
emotional repercussions of itare below the green line thing.
Yeah, then you unplug, you findsomething to replace it with.
So if it's fear, then I replaceit with the idea like safety
and then I just repeatedlyactivate safety, safety, safety,
safety kind of thing, andthat's what I engage Right Until
that catches hold and catchesmomentum and then boom, there's

(57:10):
like the piece of safetyassociated with that thought.
And I think when you havelittles like five, three and one
, like we have now, Five, threeand zero.
Yeah, like like 10 months.
Yeah.
It's very much an ongoingprocess where I do this hundreds
of times a day.

Vanessa (57:31):
Oh yeah, definitely, and I think a lot of times
people can beat up on themselvesbecause the same thing comes up
again and again and again andthey feel like it should have
been resolved, but it's not.
And that's not an indicationthat you haven't made any
progress.
The fact that you're aware ofit, that it's the same vibration

(57:51):
occurring again, that isprogress.
And the work there is justdeciding to disengage from it,
like you were just saying, andreplace it with something that
actually feels good to you.
Yeah.
And then continue to activatethat anytime it comes up,
because you have vibrationalmomentum around these things,

(58:12):
around these negative self-talkloops, around these thought
loops that have created a rut inyour brain.
Like there's obviouslyvibrational momentum because
they continue to come up.
Right.
And that's not something tojudge yourself, for it's
literally the way that theuniverse operates.
This is the law of attraction,this is vibrational momentum.

(58:32):
These things that you havemomentum around are going to
come up again and the work isjust to decide to disengage from
them and replace them withsomething else.
Not delete them, not try topick all of these weeds out of
your brain that you feel likeare plaguing you and keeping you
stuck in a place, but justobserve them, decide to

(58:54):
disengage, replace them withsomething else and continue to
activate that new good feelingthought.
Until it has momentum until itreplaces the other thing.
That didn't feel good.
And the new productiveself-talk does have vibrational
momentum.
Totally, because then that willbecome your quick grab yes,

(59:17):
that will become the fast food.

Jordan (59:20):
Yeah, yeah, it'll become easy yeah, now you're doing
meal prep right.
You're building this base ofbeautiful like vibrations to
choose from and you'repracticing them, You're engaging
them and now it's amazing howoften you'll be able to grab
onto that one thing over andover and over and over and over
again.
That's a lot healthier for youemotionally and puts you above

(59:44):
the green line.

Vanessa (59:45):
Definitely, yeah, totally, and it's funny like a
lot of people can see thesethings in you already and
occasionally they'll share themwith you.
Like, for example, this onesituation keeps coming up in my
mind we were at a function thatwas around Halloween last year
and these family friends, theywere talking to us about us

(01:00:07):
being parents and they were likeyou guys are a really great
example of parents, and I justremember looking at her and
thinking really Deb and Jay.
Yeah, Deb and Jay.
I love Deb and.

Jordan (01:00:22):
Jay, they're the bomb.

Vanessa (01:00:24):
And yeah, she was just speaking all of this truth into
me and I just remember thinkinglike you guys see that in us,
you really think that we'regreat parents.

Jordan (01:00:34):
I remember that conversation too.

Vanessa (01:00:36):
Yeah, and they were like yeah, you guys are like
among the best example that wehave for parenting.

Jordan (01:00:42):
Totally yeah, I remember that.
I remember her saying wheneverI think about parenting and what
a model would be it's you guysand the way that you interact
with your family.
I'm like what I'm like whatthat's awesome.
First off, thank you.
I'm trying to receive thatcompliment, but there are so
many times I just feel like I'msuch an asshole you know what I

(01:01:07):
mean like, like really.

Vanessa (01:01:07):
But it's really nice to see that outer perspective and
we all deal with it where youjust like don't necessarily see
that, but then they see it inyou yeah, like we're really like
we beat up on ourselves a lotand we're like our biggest
critics in life, and so wheneverthese things come through from
other people, where they can seethe truth, they can really see

(01:01:29):
like your true self, yourinfinite self, they can see all
of that and they share it withyou.
It feels really good.
And that's something we'vetalked about is the ability to
accept a compliment.
So compliments really are agift yeah.
So if somebody is giving you acompliment, that's like they're

(01:01:51):
giving you a vibe, a vibrationalgift.
Yeah, totally.

Jordan (01:01:58):
It really is.

Vanessa (01:01:58):
It's like the here's some love.
Yes, it's like the vibrationalgift of empowerment, of love, of
joy.
They see these things andthey're sharing them with you,
and that that is a gift.
So even training yourself to begood at accepting compliments,
yeah.

Jordan (01:02:16):
And receiving that.

Vanessa (01:02:17):
Yeah To receiving the compliments.
That's something that would beextremely healthy because, I
know there have been a lot oftimes in my life where I have
not been the best at acceptingcompliments or I'll kind of like
brush it off and be like oh no,that's not me.
But the better you get at that,the more you engage that

(01:02:38):
positive self-talk, the more youallow yourself to see yourself
more fully of who you truly are,and it's funny how we already
are a lot of these things thatwe strive to be.
We just hold ourselves apartfrom allowing us to actually see
that.

Jordan (01:02:57):
Totally.
And that's where the above, thegreen line life comes from is
engaging that side of ourselvesand allowing us to feel the
positive emotional repercussionsof that positive self-talk,
that positive self-love, thatreal, true inner knowing of
worthiness, right, and acceptingthose compliments and allowing

(01:03:17):
ourself to really experience it,because you're really good at
pointing this out.
But who are you serving by notaccepting that compliment?

Vanessa (01:03:27):
Nobody.

Jordan (01:03:28):
Who are you serving by not engaging that idea about
yourself?
Like is there someone else outthere that's going to feel like
a better parent because youdidn't engage in the idea that
you're a good parent, right?
You know what I mean.
And the reality is, the moreself-love that you can engage
with, the more you can reallyfill yourself up, the more you
can really experience thatfeeling of worthiness line focus

(01:04:06):
, the more momentum you're goingto build inside of that and get
to experience it in your ownlife to where, ultimately,
you're an above the green lineperson.
You feel worthy, you feelself-love, you feel like this
awesome piece of God's amazinglight physically expressing in
the universe, and you will be anabsolute beacon of light in the
physical universe to otherpeople because they'll see that,

(01:04:28):
above the green line, focus andbe like man.

Vanessa (01:04:32):
I want to be like that totally, I want to be like that
and they'll be like how do youdo it?

Jordan (01:04:36):
how do you stay so happy all the time, Like, how are you
like this?
It's like it's really deeplylove myself.

Vanessa (01:04:47):
I believe I am totally and completely worthy.

Jordan (01:04:51):
So worthy I'm so worthy of all the love.
Totally, I just love it.

Vanessa (01:04:55):
The other side of that is also, whenever you feel
compelled to share somethingpositive about somebody else, to
really put a coin in the cup ofsomebody else's self-worth.
Yeah.
That is also a huge gift, debdid that to me the other day.
Yeah.

Jordan (01:05:12):
Again.
Deb and Jay, these people areawesome.
She just called me and was likeI think you and Vanessa are
awesome.
I think what you're doing withthis podcast is so good, I think
it's so important and you know,a lot of times we have this
stuff in our minds and we say itto ourselves and we think it,
but we don't share it with theperson.

(01:05:32):
So this is like, and I love youcall just to tell you that I'm
thinking that right now.
And we're just like you rock.
You're amazing.

Vanessa (01:05:37):
Sometimes those are huge vibrational anchors, or
even life anchors that keeps youmoving forward.
Yeah.
Even with starting thisbusiness, like at the very
beginning we launched.
You know, you launch anybusiness or you launch a podcast
and it's like, okay, 10 views,20 views, a hundred views zero
views.
Yeah, and it's like, it's likehuh, um, I guess, like yeah,

(01:06:03):
this is still good stuff, likethis is still.
I feel it feels good to me, Ifeel like we're doing great
things, and then somebody willtell you like this I listened to
this podcast and I had thisrealization and now I'm doing
this and it really is making ahuge impact in my life or it's

(01:06:24):
really changing my life in thisway.
or I'm feeling better aboutthese things, or I'm feeling
better about myself and justlike a little thing that
somebody shares, which isactually like a huge thing.
These are like huge unlocks forus.
That's what keeps us movingforward.

Jordan (01:06:38):
Totally.
And you think about some ofthese really big people that are
out there in the space?
Yeah.
How many of them did the nextthing?
Because they got just a littlebit of positive feedback
somewhere.

Vanessa (01:06:50):
Yeah, like some nights we're up till 2 am editing a
podcast or doing something tothe website because of some
feedback that we got, or we'redeveloping a resource, because
somebody is like, hey, do youhave that?
I really, I really want to usethat thing that you told me
about that tool, and then that'swhat drives us to stay up till
2 in the morning completing thatthing and it's like the next

(01:07:11):
right thing, it's the nextcalling forth of the next right
thing.
Totally yeah, you never knowwhat that's going to be for
somebody.
So when you feel compelled toshare that with someone, share
it because it's a gift to themand it's also a gift to you.
What was that one saying thatwe heard?
It was along the lines ofwhenever you give a gift to

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somebody, you actuallyexperience the positive emotion
even greater than the personreceiving the gift.

Jordan (01:07:39):
Totally.
He basically was saying you canonly receive what you give,
like, essentially, like what yougive is what you're capable of
receiving.
Right.
So like to practice receivinglove, give love.
You know it's kind of thisreciprocating thing, and the
more you can give, then the moreyou're going to allow yourself

(01:08:03):
to receive.
Right and kind of vice versa.
So I think it's a good practiceto really focus on the best in
people in the world and engagethat and share when you can.

Vanessa (01:08:18):
Yeah, definitely.
And one last thing that I'dlike to share is basically the
idea of vibrational unlocks.
So there are these differentthings that I've come across or
become aware of in my own life,and one of the it seems simple,
but it actually has made a hugedifference in my life is around

(01:08:39):
our babies.
So, like a lot of the times,the mother especially if they're
nursing you can.
There's like this whole dialogueof I don't get cuddles, like
they're just using me for themilk.
I'm basically the milk wagonand so I found myself stuck in
that mentality of, well, she'sjust using me for my milk, like
she doesn't actually want tocuddle, she just basically will

(01:09:01):
nurse and then she wants to goplay or she wants to go to you
and she'll cuddle you, but shewon't cuddle.
She just basically will nurseand then she wants to go play or
she wants to go to you andshe'll cuddle you, but she won't
cuddle me.
So I found myself stuck in thisdialogue and all of a sudden,
one day I became aware of it.
I was like I'm doing this tomyself, I'm creating this.

Jordan (01:09:21):
Basically repelling the cuddles.

Vanessa (01:09:23):
Yeah, I'm being a cuddle repellent.
This is not cool, because Ilove cuddles.
I love those baby snuggles.
They're so precious, totally,and so from that day on, I made
up a song.
Actually, this is kind ofembarrassing.

Jordan (01:09:39):
You're a great singer, you should rock this thing Now
there's pressure so I wouldstart singing.

Vanessa (01:09:45):
I'd say I get lots and lots of snuggles all the time.
I get lots and lots of snugglesall the time.
I get lots and lots of snugglesbecause my babies love to
cuddle.
I get lots and lots of snugglesall the time and from the day
that I started singing thiscrazy song I really did start
getting all of the baby cuddlesyou have I have he sees it all

(01:10:07):
the time I saw this happen.
Oh yeah, it really did happenlike baby head snuggled like
into my shoulder neck like ohyeah, all the way nuzzled in she
started like.

Jordan (01:10:19):
She started like hugging you yeah, with her little tiny
arm.

Vanessa (01:10:22):
She'd be like oh yeah, she would put her little tiny
fingers like around me and justreally embrace me.
Yeah, and I remember thinking,oh my gosh, this is magic, this
is amazing totally and that waslike a huge vibrational unlock
for me, even though it seems itseems crazy, it seems
inconsequential, but, like as aparent, that's huge.

(01:10:44):
Yeah.
It's like I completely shiftedthe way that I'm experiencing
our kids the way that I'mexperiencing our baby in the
first year of her life andthat's a big thing for me.
The same idea with our friendLynn.
She was telling me a storyabout how she perceived her dog.
Her dialogue was basically youdon't love me, so every day she
was telling that to her dog.
Basically you don't love me, soevery day she was telling that

(01:11:08):
to her dog, you don't love me.
And the dog would act like thatyeah, it would act like it
didn't love her, it wasn't warmto her or anything.
And then she started changingher dialogue and this was a
realization that both both of ushad around the same time yeah
and hadn't even expressed it toeach other, but she had a very
similar story.
So she changed her dialoguearound the same time and hadn't
even expressed it to each other,but she had a very similar
story.
So she changed her dialoguearound the dog she goes.

(01:11:29):
She stopped saying you don'tlove me and replaced that with
you love me so much.
Yeah.
I love you so much.
And her dog started showing upcompletely different to her.

Jordan (01:11:39):
I can totally see that.

Vanessa (01:11:41):
And just these little things, even with the podcast,
like a few years ago and withvibration fit as a whole, a few
years ago I did not see myselfsitting here with you doing this
podcast or being front-facingat all, with vibration fit.
The entire idea for the pastfive years, up until the last

(01:12:03):
year or two, was that you wouldbe the front facing figure.
You would be the coach, youwould be the trainer, you would
be everything and I would bebehind the scenes.
And that was always the storythat I told until I started
having this desire that becamemore and more clear that I
actually would like to be frontfacing Totally.

(01:12:24):
I would like to do a lot of thebusiness stuff with you.

Jordan (01:12:27):
And thank God she did.

Vanessa (01:12:30):
I'm just saying these are like all of these huge
vibrational unlocks, yeah, likethis could be the Jordan show
right now.

Jordan (01:12:37):
Yeah, and it would stay at zero.

Vanessa (01:12:40):
No it wouldn't You're incredible?
There's that self-talk.

Jordan (01:12:51):
See, exactly Perfect example, but really like we're
having so much more fun with itbeing both of us and there might
have been a dialogue in thevery beginning because I was
spiritually indoctrined with awhole bunch of cool stuff
whenever you and I met.
So in the beginning I wasindoctrined with a whole bunch
of cool stuff whenever you and Imet.
So in the beginning I was kindof your vibrational coach in the
beginning for consciouscreation.

Vanessa (01:13:10):
Oh for sure, you were my trainer.
You were everything.
I was just learning the ropes.

Jordan (01:13:15):
You're the conscious creator of your reality.
So now that you're aware ofthat, let's listen to some of
these things and you'll becomemore aware and you'll gain more
knowledge, and then you'll startto practice and then you'll
ultimately become the consciouscreator, conscious allower of
your reality.
And that was like when we firststarted dating, like I was kind
of introducing you to thatstuff.

(01:13:36):
Well, what eventually happenedwhich has been really great for
me is you took it to a wholenother level and now you're my
vibrational coach, so like we'revery balanced.
I tell well I literally tellpeople that all the time, like
they'll ask a question.
Sometimes people will ask me aquestion and you'll chime in and

(01:13:56):
I'll be like you're getting myvibrational coach now, like the
person that coaches me is nowcoaching you.
So you should listen up to thisand you've like literally just
spit fire like a dragon when itcomes to this stuff.
You're doing stuff comes out ofyour mouth the best yeah, well,
I mean, I think you and I havingeach other to build on is
really cool, because we reallybuild these conversations.

(01:14:18):
You toss something out, I tossit back, you toss it back, and
we're just really like.
I think about like the gymrollers where you put like these
rocks that are all you knowsharp in this tumbler and you
start tumbling them, andtumbling them, and tumbling them
and eventually they get allsmooth.
That's what you and I do witheach other all the time, yeah,

(01:14:39):
so it is fun to watch theevolution of desire and start to
see these vibrational unlockswithin yourself.
Where you go, you know what.
I am worthy, right and I amcapable and I have value to add,
and I have this massive desireto now be in front of the camera

(01:15:00):
and to be able to share thiswith other people.
I am going to develop into thisand then, as we started to
shoot videos and we started toshoot these podcasts, we started
to shoot things.
It was very clear like you areamazing with content creation,
content generation being oncamera.

(01:15:22):
the way that you speak andthat's another thing I think
that we had like years ago isI've spoken on stages to
thousands and thousands ofpeople.
Right you had not had thatexperience yet.

Vanessa (01:15:33):
No, you know, and I really like years ago I didn't
care to have that experience.
I was like I'm fine with hiding, I'm fine with being behind the
scenes doing all of the thingsthat people get to consume, like
all the creative but lettingyou take the light kind of thing
.

Jordan (01:15:52):
Yeah, and it's really funny because you start to see
like this is a perfect exampleto wrap up our talk on self-talk
, because if you would allowthat self-talk, to perpetuate
itself into your future reality,then no one would be graced
with your wonderful presence oncamera.
So the fact that you felt thedesire within and begin to
engage it and begin to build newthought form around it and

(01:16:15):
perform the aura processes onplaces where you felt stuck.
ultimately is what's making thisavailable to people?
And, honestly, I feel like itgot to launch a lot faster and a
lot more robustly because wewere both at this place where we
could have this dialogue andgive ourselves permission to do

(01:16:36):
so.

Vanessa (01:16:37):
Right, yeah.
So that really is the work assimple as it seems just finding
those things in your life andreally observing, like, where
are these stone walls betweenwhere I am and my desire?
Because those are the thingsthat make you feel like you're
stuck and all you have to do isjust back up and become aware of

(01:17:02):
it, observe it and just getpast it and replace it with
positive self-talk.
Totally.
Just don't worry about deletingthe negative self-talk.
Just know that all it is is anopportunity to line up with who
you truly are, because thatperson is there all the time,

(01:17:22):
holding steadfast to all thatyou've become.

Jordan (01:17:25):
You are worthy, you are infinite consciousness projected
into a physical body, and youare one with God, and God is
everything.

Vanessa (01:17:34):
You are amazing.

Jordan (01:17:35):
You're amazing.

Vanessa (01:17:36):
You're so great yes.

Jordan (01:17:39):
Yes, so this is definitely like a namaste
conversation.

Vanessa (01:17:43):
Namaste.
The light in me, sees the lightin you and with that we would
love to send love and light toyou all.