October 11, 2021 • 68 mins
Today on the show, we honor having Clay Hodges; we go into Forex trading. It was a fantastic, fun chat—yoga and mental health, wealth growth, struggles with addiction, and so much more.
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Josh Bolton (00:03):
How you doing?
clay (00:04):
Hey buddy, how's it going?
Pretty good. It took me a secondto find the link since we
reschedule it.
Josh Bolton (00:12):
Yeah, I was figuring Something came up
because you did you instantlyaccepted him I probably just
can't find it. It's inpromotions or whatever.
clay (00:20):
How's it going? Man, I did a little research on what it is
that you got going on. It's kindof a all encompassing podcast
and mostly on mindsetentrepreneur. And I guess that
that genre business specificallyor a little bit, everything,
Josh Bolton (00:39):
it's a little bit of everything. Now I when I
initially started this, I wantedto just talk to business people
and get a good vibe of where I'mat. Now that I have it. I'm
like, one of my guests even saidit business doesn't sell. I know
Mike, you're a it's a He's like,you'll always be known as the
business guy. And but he's Ijust have fun talk to whoever
about whatever. Yeah, so that'skind of where I'm going now with
(01:02):
this.
clay (01:03):
Oh, man. I mean, I agree.
It's, I mean, you can findbusiness stuff anywhere. But
what's really interesting,especially right now as people,
man people just want to connect,because we're so disconnected.
Josh Bolton (01:17):
Yes. Oh, that's just crazy. Like today. I was
working on writing up like athing and because I was watching
the markets, and they werecrashing on my pool. I was like,
This is great. I'm gonna startsnapping up stuff right now.
kind of thing for today'sepisode. Oh, no, no, in general
is looking at the VIX and thecurrency pairs.
clay (01:39):
Okay. Okay. So your trader? Yeah. Nice. Okay.
Josh Bolton (01:43):
That's when you said that I was like, dude,
clay (01:45):
let's do it. Okay, nice, man. Nice. Well, it says, dude,
it's so important right now forpeople to even if you don't want
to be a day trader, whatever.
Like, there's huge changes rightnow that are happening in the
financial system, whether youwant to accept it or not. It's
actually you know, where it'scoming. Where it's coming. Yeah,
with the stimulus and inflationand Oh, yeah. You know,
(02:08):
cryptocurrencies coming in andthere's a lot of speculation. I
mean, it's not even speculationthat Federal Reserve has a
crypto currency called fed
Josh Bolton (02:20):
coin. Yeah, it's like EUR USD coin.
clay (02:23):
Well, yeah. So you know, pushing everything into some
sort of digital currency system,which, you know, I'm not a fan
of at all. I mean, either,right. Right. So yeah, but like,
for the average person, toactually like, sure. There's all
(02:43):
this stuff that happened in thepast two years, but at the heart
of it is it's all about themoney. It's always about that.
Yeah. But even more, at a deeperlevel, it's, you know, to some
people, money is nothing at acertain point, but like, how can
you change the whole system toreally like, lupa this way?
(03:05):
Money is going to be the thingthat's going to create a
checkmate for people. Oh,absolutely. It does right now. I
mean, I guess that's what's coolabout the cryptocurrencies I'm
not, I'm just more you know,trading, helping people learn
how to trade and there's a bunchof opportunities now, where you
can from home, get funded withoutside capital, by different
(03:28):
prop trading firms, given thatyou can follow their rules,
manage your risk, and, you know,trade within some sort of career
strategy and the right riskmanagement in order to be
successful as a trader, and notjust gambling, basically. So but
it's a huge opportunity forpeople and that's what I show
people how to do. But you know,on a deeper level, they're just
(03:51):
so much more going on, andpeople need to learn about it. I
mean, like, you're like, there'sa reason why they don't teach us
this stuff in school. You know,if everyone knew it doesn't work
that well, yeah, only a fewpeople really know about it.
Everybody else like oh, yeah, Imean, most people don't even
really know what inflationmeans.
Josh Bolton (04:13):
They don't. And that's the scary part. And
that's like, I work at a grocerystore, like near my house. And I
told them like inflation iscoming whether we like it or
not, like Well, yeah, whatever.
I'm like, the cheapest chemicalburritos, like the Tina's
Whatever. I'm like, that's goneup 20 cents in six months. And
they use the most insanechemicals that are cheap. And
(04:36):
the that's even going up inprice.
clay (04:40):
Yes. Not even food. Yeah, basically. Yeah, yeah. I mean,
the grocery store is just one ofthe easiest place to see it.
Verse four gas station. So yeah,I mean, it's like undeniable for
people to say that, Oh, well,that's just,
Josh Bolton (04:56):
that's just them, not us. It's like no, it hurts
everyone.
clay (04:59):
You Yeah yeah yeah
Unknown (05:01):
it
clay (05:01):
definitely not just everybody but like years from
now for sure
Josh Bolton (05:06):
yeah there's gonna be a whole generation that's
just sadly screwed over kind ofthing if we don't if we don't
play our cards right yeah thenlike a lot of people are gonna
be screwed
clay (05:18):
yeah yeah so like and by playing our cards right means
like you got to turn off thewhat they're telling us on you
know the news and actually dosome research for yourself and
that's like what's just soimportant for everybody to do no
matter what the topic is. I'mnot you know, I'm not trying to
(05:39):
like push one one viewpoint orthe other but like, you got like
look for yourself. Most peoplewill argue once at one side or
the other. And really like ifyou just follow the money trail
it's pretty you know,undeniable. Yeah. Is my dog
Josh Bolton (05:58):
I would say I got one here they're barking outside
but my noise gets cutting himout
clay (06:02):
nice nice
Josh Bolton (06:04):
so yeah, that's that's the big one so you're
strictly forex then right?
clay (06:09):
So we do well mostly currencies, commodities like
specifically gold and indices aswell so like you know this
morning we're trading or I'vehad some trades on the Dow us 30
once it finally hit hit thebottom there so is buying buying
the bottom and which sometimescan be a good play but yeah, so
(06:33):
a big part of my strategy is youknow, determining what's going
on with the currency pairs basedon the overall market sentiment
of what's happening with indicesright so in other words, in a in
a more risk on environment, likeit has been pretty much for the
(06:56):
past year you're gonna seeindices s&p 500 NASDAQ dow just
marching for marching higher newall time highs and that's
considered risk on environmentand so that's going to create
less strength for things likethe dollar or Japanese yen and
then the flip side of that is ina more risk adverse environment
(07:21):
like today you could see youknow, the Dollar strengthened
quite a bit quite a bit and sodid Japanese yen and gold as
well. They do Yeah, yeah. Solike and that means basically
the risk adverse scenarioeverything's hitting the fan and
(07:41):
the markets are dropping andespecially the people that are
just kind of in the middle thatare the retail traders are like
Oh, let me just get my money outof there and I'll just buy
dollars let me just get out soyou know, I don't lose it all
and so that's what that's whathappens in creates the panic
selling and for it to drop andso typically when that happens
you're going to see the dollarstring so that's one of my so
(08:05):
it's all it's just likeeverything in life dude
everything is connected.
Josh Bolton (08:09):
Oh yeah. And like the base of it all is bonds
pretty much right?
clay (08:13):
Yeah. And you know, if you start to think of things in and
just life in general the waythat we're all connected the
markets as well you know, itstarts to make a lot more sense
that was a big aha moment for mebecause like in terms of in
terms of trading you know, ifyou see more if you see the
money flows go out of the dollarand then to say, the pound or
(08:35):
the euro and then out of theeuro and then all of a sudden
Canadian dollar because oilprices are pushing higher and it
just go on you know, the bigbanks are just moving from one
to the next to the next. Nextit's really trying to catch that
kids have money trail. So butyou know, like anything in life.
(08:57):
everything's connected and I'mconnected. You're here we are.
We're connected. You're right.
Right. You're in Cal,
Josh Bolton (09:03):
California. Yes.
clay (09:07):
Where
Josh Bolton (09:08):
were you at?
clay (09:09):
Nashville, Nashville,
Josh Bolton (09:11):
Tennessee.
clay (09:12):
I got a bunch of California is coming here,
Josh Bolton (09:15):
that's for sure.
Where they're gonna leave indroves now, especially with the
election results.
clay (09:21):
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. I wouldn't be. I would. I
wouldn't blame them. But that'sjust me. Right? Yeah. So like,
but yeah, you know, everything'sconnected and on. Right now,
everybody's just wanting tothink of like, that we're so
separate. And it's like my sideand your side. And that's part
(09:45):
of it. Yeah, and that's what'sreally like dividing us in
creating an environment thatit's been pretty well calculated
for it to be that way. Where youknow, nothing really gets solved
for for the better because itdoesn't matter what you believe
on. either side ultimately ifeverybody kind of set their
identifications aside they wouldrealize that there are a lot
(10:07):
more in the middle you know wejust want freedom good food good
clean water a place to live youknow good education for family
and kids and
Josh Bolton (10:20):
babies like sprinkles on top your boss
actually appreciate your work.
What's that? said a littlesprinkle on top like your boss
actually appreciate your work.
clay (10:29):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Or you know or you know, start to
start your own job right everypeople freedom to be able to do
that and become the boss. Andthat's what that's what is great
about this country you know, andyou know, everybody should have
the opportunity to do that youknow, you know what I mean? So
(10:51):
right, but like yeah, soeverything's connected whether
it's we're talking about marketswe're talking about the way we
interact with each other just sostrange and you know, people
seem like because like I'mmaking a point whenever I think
about this morning, too, I go toa I've been changing my routine
(11:14):
around getting up super earlyand three at 3am and going to
yoga class five and then there'sa class after it at six and so
everybody's like standing therewith their mats and stuff.
They're like oh my god, it's soearly. It's gonna come down the
stairs. I'm like, Hey, goodmorning and of course I just got
off like a super hot intenseyoga class and I'm all like, up
(11:37):
and stuff but like tellingsomebody else Good morning and
usually when when you do that,they're like, oh, oh yeah, good
morning, because nobody doesthat anymore. There's no
connection we're so you know, inour own little and in our own
little worlds and our own littlebubbles that the connection is
gone but as soon as you even tryto make an effort more you know
(11:58):
usually some people aren't asreceptive but that's their
that's their issue really. Butit's kind of a fun practice to
do especially for somebody thatwas is more introverted you
know, I used to be reallyintroverted I guess but not not
so much but I mean like I and asyou know, some of my story
(12:21):
before I got on the podcastnotes drugs alcohol pills, I
grew up in Kentucky and rightwhen the start of the the opiate
epidemic really started youknow, and that was like when I
was in high school in the 90sand there's pain clinics
everywhere. And so like thatstarted this thing, where you
(12:44):
know, any type any type of selfdestructive behavior only
creates more anxiety,depression, and it becomes a
snowball effect right and so inorder to reverse that it's been
a long process but in order toreverse that I had to do things
(13:05):
that I wanted to do like ordidn't want to do like well said
man like when I was gettingclean like I would go to say you
know, some sort of recoverymeeting or like a 12 step
meeting and just like desperateyou know, or like or yoga class
in the gym because I knew it waswhat I needed to do and I pull
in the pull in the parking lotjust get overwhelmed with
(13:28):
anxiety and you know talk myselfout of and so that and that just
kept me sick for a long ass timeand but it was just the fact
that was unwilling to open upand you know, try to connect
with people and really theconnection is you know, one of
the most healing things thatanybody can do you don't have to
(13:50):
get to where you're strung outor whatever to do that but you
know a lot of people it's justfear anxiety people you know,
some people like having a maskon because they can hide by you
know what I mean I'm not sayinglike it's right or wrong like
you know if masks this or that,but it just like creates even
(14:11):
more of a barrier for people toshield themselves and not open
up and if you ever heard thesaying you know, our our our
secrets keep us sick. I thinkthat's it.
Josh Bolton (14:22):
I think Yeah, I know what you're going for.
clay (14:25):
Yeah, secrets keep us and that's true man, you know, like,
but whatever it is. Even if likeeven if like it was this
scenario like man I did. Iwalked in the door and this is a
good example like when I was Iwas terrified to like speak at a
(14:45):
at a meeting right like a 12step meeting I had to go to when
I was getting clean, andsometimes what I shared was
like, Hey, my name is Clay. I'm,you know, an alcoholic or an
addict. Just because thestandard, you know what you have
to say or split To say theformalities of it. And I'd be
like, I don't have anything toshare. I'm just so scared right
(15:07):
now that I just had to saysomething. People will be like,
thanks, by the way, but thething is, they've all been
there. Right? Pretty mucheverybody has been. Oh, yeah.
Right, exactly. But it's like,at what point do you want to
actually just like, admit that,you know, 10 I'm my energy's
(15:33):
weird right now. I'm not feelinggood or whatever. A lot of
times, other people are like,Yeah, me too, is something going
on right now. But it just like amatter of just like, take me off
one layer of, you know, however,we shield itself so sorry, dude,
I just went on a huge rant.
Josh Bolton (15:51):
I love it. No.
Okay. All right. Love it. Yeah.
The biggest one for me is it waswhen you said the you had an
addiction. I don't really openlytalk about it. But I was
terribly addicted to alcohol.
And I was trying to do theaterwork. I tried to be the lighting
guys to get paid a shit ton ofmoney. I didn't realize until
halfway through, you had to likepretty much do speed to get
(16:14):
through the job. So I wasn'twilling to go that far. But I
was drinking nonstop, or smokingat least two packs a day. And at
a certain point, I had this dumbidea. I'm like, oh, cigarettes
are expensive. I'll vape andsaid, well, as one of those as
I'm leaning back in class, youhear a terrible Rep. And it
(16:35):
wasn't my clothes. And one of mybuddies next thing is like,
Josh, you might need to go tothe nurse. So I went, I told the
nurse and she's like, honey, youjust ripped your own lungs. I
was like, Oh, well, I literallyjust handed the vaporizer throw
it away.
clay (16:58):
And then know what to do.
Like,
Josh Bolton (17:00):
I'm it was just amount of formaldehyde in a vape
is like 10 times more than acigarette.
clay (17:08):
So my lungs was that like those jewels or whatever they're
called,
Josh Bolton (17:11):
I got my own, I would get my own thing by like,
it would taste like candy kindof thing. But yeah, it just
standard whatever they did.
formaldehyde was 10 times morethan usual. And my lungs
essentially sealed up. They'refine now, but it was one of
those. I'm like, I'm gonna diereally young if I keep this up.
clay (17:31):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Man.
I mean, you know, ultimately,man, it's really not. It's like
it's not the fact that thepeople because you could have
been like, Hey, guys, I want tobe a lighting I want to work
because Are you in LA orsomething? Is that where you're
la? Yeah. Near LA. Like, dude, Iwant to be a lighting man. I
(17:51):
want to work on certain theater.
And I want to get in the film. Idon't know if you did, or
whatever. But you know, like,you guys can drink and you can
do math and like, whatever. Butlike, I'm here for me. It takes
a lot of strength to do that forme to like for me to go and
like, say if I go out, and like,oh, man, you're not you're not
(18:12):
gonna drink. And some peoplethink it's weird, or whatever.
But like, I'm dialed into mypurpose now that like, you know,
it doesn't appeal to me anyways.
Right? So like, you know, sothere's so there's that, but
like, it takes on the flip sideof that, you know, the way I
used to be, I've been in thatyour shoes before a million
(18:33):
times in that scenario where,you know, go to a concert, I
would just take whatever,whatever, pretty much is handed
to me. And, you know, it usedsometimes it'd be fun, but
ultimately, it ended prettytragically like down the road
when, when the music was over,so to speak. So like, but you
know, it's just being dialed inon what it is that we want to do
(18:55):
and why we're there. But youknow, sometimes sometimes that's
really hard, if not impossible,if we don't know what it is that
we want to do. All together inthe first place.
Josh Bolton (19:11):
And for me, my case. So back in, like late 90s,
they didn't really havepolitically correct or
understand a lot of things. So Ihad ADHD as a kid, but in the
90s, they didn't know what thehell that was. So they thought I
was schizophrenic, because theywould switch mood so quickly. So
since like, I was eight, untileight or nine, until, like,
(19:37):
three years ago, I was on someheavy shit. Adderall, they had
me on Adderall. That didn't endwell. Ritalin. I felt like there
were spiders and I was actuallypulling my skin off me because I
couldn't stand it. But it waslike, it was not dopamine, but
it was like a weird D word. Dpill back then I think it's even
circulation. Again, like as alittle eight year old. I gained
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like six 6570 pounds in threemonths. And
clay (20:04):
yeah, that sucks, man. I mean, like, the ads have been
pretty traumatic for you, youknow with with other kids and
all that stuff and Oh yeah, thebullying was new last year like,
you know, on on all thesedifferent medications and stuff
and but that you know, I'm not abig fan of big pharma industry
because they don't they don'tcare about that kind of thing
Josh Bolton (20:27):
no they don't and I was in the guy who diagnosed me
was just impatient and he'slike, oh, he he's happy for like
two seconds and he's sad for thenext two seconds, he's
schizophrenic signs get out kindof thing. Right? So it was a
total gear to the ground but somy new job I was going to this
(20:47):
guy I had to do like I had to goto the doctor to clear all my
insurance and shit. Andessentially, professional Indian
man would never say a bad thing.
As he's reading the stuff. Josh,how long have you been on this
shit? Nearly right there. I'mlike, Alright, I gotta get off
this just figure out a way toland. And ever since then,
(21:09):
that's when I got the, the sparkfor business, podcasting. And
really, I like really lovetrading. And that's when I
realized this is what I canhold. This is what I can say is
my now. Nice,
clay (21:23):
man, that's awesome. So like, Yeah, when, when after I
gotten clean, and I really justfiguring out everything out. And
just like, even just like noteven one day at a time, one hour
at a time, you know, the marketswere something that I could
connect into. And still youknow, a lot of times and still
(21:47):
be a part of you don't have toactively be trading but it's
something that I could reallyengage my mind on and try to get
better at. And that wassomething positive, you know,
rather than just man I'm justtrying to white knuckle it out,
try to get some time withoutdope under my belt, and I'm just
gonna watch Netflix all day. Youknow, I've never really been
(22:09):
like that anyway. Sometimes butreally, you know, is it it's a
it's a positive thing you tolearn. It's like having
something that like No, I'llI'll preface that by it's not
the best idea to just like be abeginner and be like, Alright,
(22:31):
let's do this. Let me just putsome money in here and see what
happens which I'm sure you'vehad that experience too.
Josh Bolton (22:37):
I have I've done it myself. I look like luckily I
learned quickly so but I've knowpeople who've lost 1000s and I'm
just like, I just sit theresaying I didn't say anything but
I'm like guys wait, did you evenlook at the chart and know what
that means? They're like no,it's green is good. I'm like
it's a basic head and shoulderpattern. And like what's that
(22:58):
I'm like, depending on thedirection it means is going up
or it's going to crash hard onyou.
clay (23:05):
Right right. Yeah. Okay, so it sounds like you have some
pretty pretty decentunderstanding what's going on
there man so that's that's allso like yeah, you know, I mean,
it was so you still tradingactively?
Josh Bolton (23:17):
actively? Yeah, I actually just bought up some
stuff on my Roth because I hadan extra $900 just sitting there
everything was everything was onsale so Mike, I'm just gonna
take this till I can.
clay (23:27):
Okay, what was it like kryptos or FX
Josh Bolton (23:30):
I don't like crypto. Like I told one of my
whole crew at night when I workwith they're all they were all
into bitcoin. I'm like bitcoinsa great trading tool, but it's
not a good investment tool. Andthey're like oh, so now they'll
buy it and I've shown them thebasics like you want to buy here
(23:51):
sell here. If you really want tobe fancy you can short it but
the crypto market is gonna costyou more than it's worth but
clay (23:58):
right well i mean maybe you know it could go like
tomorrow wake up it's at like120,000 So yeah, it's so thing
with it so yeah, yeah,definitely you should get into
my group and and start being apart of what it is that we got
going on. I don't know. If youlooked
Josh Bolton (24:16):
before Yeah, I was struggling to ask you what the
telegram was because I have atelegram. I just don't really
use it.
clay (24:21):
Okay, yeah, yeah, so rownum forex, you can go to my
my Instagram and in the linktree you will get access to the
free telegram and all that goodstuff and so but yeah, you know
and and but it gave me somethingthat actually to have some hope
and to because oh, yeah, I waswell, I was living in a halfway
(24:44):
house. Right and so you know,that basically means like, you
have to report and take drugtests like you're standing there
with like 16 other dudes and itwas like, you know, in Ghana the
ghetto so it was like, not thebest situation by I really tried
to make the best of it because Iwould I would leave at like 5am
go to the gym fine take take acomputer with me and then like
(25:09):
post up somewhere and learntrade like you know well yeah
just really learn about thewhole situation that basically
got a job at because that's youknow being in the halfway house
you have to report with a joband all that stuff and so
there's a dude those in recoverythat did only like the
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landscaping was likeconstruction landscaping, where
they put in irrigation lines. Ohyeah, I started doing that. And
I was like, super hard as work,especially in the summer your
Nashville gets really really
Josh Bolton (25:47):
hot. I would assume that's like here in California.
Yeah, Kelly's
clay (25:52):
Kelly's way more dry. I used to live in South Lake Tahoe
I lived in in in northern somedifferent parts of northern
California for a little bit backwhen I was more roaming when I
was in roping mode but uh yeahyou know so I was like man I got
it like if I zero in on this Ican really make something out of
(26:14):
this I could learn this skillnobody can take it away from me
once I know it and you know it'sbeen just a uphill journey ever
since then with you know higherhighs and higher lows definitely
some some lows do but so youknow but it was something
positive that I could be likeyou know, really it gave me a
(26:35):
lot of hope. And at the time Ihad not at the time I had none I
was just trying to you know, geton my feet again and so that's
where a lot of yoga came inmeditation and you know really
just trying to connect on adeeper way my own way and that
(26:56):
really so I had the the healthside which you know gym
dedicated myself that I didn'thave a driver's license so dude
I would walk like you know 10miles a day it was nuts Oh shit.
Yeah, but I was like you know Iwas sober for once in my life so
I just put some tunes on andlisten like you know I think at
(27:20):
the time I was like as I go intokicks with music I was like in
it just a classic 90salternative music and you just
give me I don't man I'm justfeeling good happy grateful
really practicing gratitudewalking everywhere it's just a
whole new experience because Iwasn't you know in a fog from
(27:40):
Xanax and so yeah so walkinggoing to the gym at some I that
my health was coming back myfitness I didn't like know as
much about diet and differentdiets that you can do and but
you know I've learned a lotabout that actually my first
(28:01):
business was a juice bar here inNashville yeah and so but we've
always been entrepreneurs andbut like so I was learning about
different different ways ofhealth getting my diet dialed in
and I would the guys at thehalfway house we would you know
give me shit because I'd comethere and they're all eating
(28:21):
pizzas and like drinking RedBulls and I quit smoking Not
long after after that and so Iwas like really just I'm doing
this and you know some of thoseguys are dead now not you know
but like that's just the natureof avoid it was
Josh Bolton (28:44):
so much processed food and your body just doesn't
know what to do with it andeventually does catch up
clay (28:50):
well i mean they relapsed and you know you know died using
using heroin and stuff cool soyeah cheap
Josh Bolton (29:00):
drug either.
clay (29:01):
What's that
Josh Bolton (29:02):
apparently is not cheap drug either. Is it? Just
like I don't know I never did it
clay (29:07):
Yeah, yeah. Well you know the cost of it is and what it
will do to your life and thefamily and people around you as
you know, you can't even put aprice tag on so you know, but
no, it's it is becomingincreasingly cheaper and cheaper
the more fentanyl comes into thecountry and you know, more
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people are dying and dying andthat's that that's a real
epidemic. And people are youknow, I think it's been like so
far this year 60,000 I'm notsure I looked at numbers not too
long ago so the number butoverdoses and stuff and that's
like so serious man, but yeah,and so, but I would come back
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I'd make make a smoothie andthey're all eating pizzas and
stuff and they would all like,make fun of me. Right there like
this one dude who later becameEric who later became my
roommate and who is one of theguys that passed away from an
overdose in Denver. But hecalled me green guy because I'd
make these greens greensmoothies like Hey, what are you
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doing green guy? And is thissomething that we joked about
man he's a good he's a gooddude. But like that's kind of
what I'm meant by like you knowyou got to just really tap in to
what you feel like because yourconscience is telling you what's
right what's wrong Hey, youshould be doing this you
shouldn't be eating that. Ofcourse the more you drown that
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out the more you drown it outthat voice becomes like you know
where you can barely even hearif not hear it at all but the
more you try to tap in and starttaking that right which is
typically the harder path thenthe louder it gets and the more
connected you are and then themore able you are to tap into
that and so I was really justlike following this inner
guidance system of you know myconscience and higher power and
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just like because I've been soDeaf to it for a long time and
it was really as just gettingsuper tapped in and so so yeah
you know I was just like no i'mi'm sticking to this doing this
for me that's not what I saidyou know I just like yeah green
guy I'm just trying to lose acouple pounds for the ladies and
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that you know, but really,really I was like dude, I can't
live like this and here was 16dudes that just just fucking
slobs and this is unacceptablefor me it's acceptable for my
life my you know family deservesbetter and I can do better and I
can be really hard on myself manbut it's you know now I've
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learned to do it in a moreloving way and stuff but yeah so
and just stay in tact and ofcourse that was a that was nine
years ago but like that it was ait was a long road for sure but
in that I really flipped intolike okay fitness health I'm
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walking I'm going to the gym Idon't even know how to do these
workouts so I was like readingon the internet watching YouTube
videos getting my dot get mydiet dialed in same deal YouTube
videos reading on the internetfollowing other people and then
then started learning about youknow, spirituality yoga. I tried
to connect with different youknow teachers and stuff and
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that's still been a journey forme up to an ounce that still
every single day and and thenalso and then after I got those
things dialed in fitness, mentalhealth diet spiritual health the
spiritual health starts to openup it doesn't even matter if you
don't believe in anything youknow you become more tapped in
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and you know, it doesn't matterif you're an atheist or what
that's undeniable you know youget your your house Yeah, you
get your body back you're moreenergetic you feel tapped in you
have more appreciation andgratitude for life. And you
know, that's you know, there'ssomething much deeper going on
there in my opinion, but youknow, first you got to you can't
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go learn to walk before you canrun. And so that starts with
like, removing the Red Bullsremoving the you know, that
fried chicken, which Hey, I'mfrom Kentucky, dude, I love
fried chicken.
Josh Bolton (33:31):
The real freaking train chickens there. Oh,
clay (33:33):
my dad makes legit fried chicken man. And we're in the
summer of fried chicken andtomatoes from the garden and
it's a peach cobbler. Fordessert. It's
Josh Bolton (33:46):
a country asked me to say that that's a southern
meal. Don't be counting yourcalories or carbs. And that one?
Yeah, yeah, no, no,
clay (33:51):
I'm not that dumb. If I go to mom's house, Mom and Dad's
I'm not counting calories. Andso I'm just grateful to be
there. That right? But uh, yeah,and so, but you got it, you got
to learn to walk before you run.
And then eventually all thatstuff started to kind of fall in
place with with a lot of efforton my part. And then then I was
like, you know, we can do aconstruction I found some
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different entrepreneurs that Isee my brother, he's my business
partner. I'd like my He's mybest friend too. I'm super
grateful for him. And you know,he's like, Hey, you should check
out this guy, then you'll likethem and introduce me to TEDx
rule by Grant Cardone, and whichis an amazing book, and I love
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the auto audio book. I was like,Man, this dude is crazy. And it
just like sparked something. Meis like, Man, you know, I can
actually create something what'sstopping me the only thing
that's stopping me from actuallylike doing something making it
happen on my own learning how totrade, learning about being An
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entrepreneur is me, only personstopping me as business owners
that's going to talk me out ofit is me. And the only person
that's going to stop me fromtrying, is me. And usually how
that looks is like, you know,with some sort of, I have
something I want to do in somesort of self destructive
behavior that gets in the way,you know, it was it was
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drinking, it was drinking, itwas using drugs as popping
pills. It could be, it could beanything man eating,
pornography, all that stuff wehave, you know, scrolling
through.
Josh Bolton (35:35):
Scrolling is bad now that I, it's sad to say porn
is not as effective as Instagramor Tiktok anymore.
clay (35:43):
Well, yeah, I mean, once you become numb to it, sure. You
know, like, it's, it's like, Idon't mean that as like, right?
You know, we're, likedesensitized to that, like, you
know, if you showed, like ourgrandparents that they would be
like, What the fuck are you guyslooking at is what is this sin
of? Whatever? Well, yeah, forsure. And but you know, what's
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sad about that, as we becomedesensitized to it
systematically, in my, myopinion, there's a reason why
that, you know, churches had toclose, but like, you know, that
stuff still on the internet,right? I mean, I'm not for
censorship at all. But it'slike, what people are drawn to?
And what's been what's promoted.
Right? So, yeah, it's crazy.
(36:27):
We're just desensitized thatnow, you know, it's scrolling.
It's designed to keep us keep uslocked in whether scrolling,
whether we're swiping, whether,you know, whatever it is, yeah,
whatever it is, and it'sdesigned to keep us more locked
in, and, you know, more or lessenslaved to what's going on,
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and, you know, to the, to our tojust to bring it back to our
identifications, because mostpeople that are scrolling, or
scrolling things based on theirown political beliefs, or you
know, what they're interestedin. And so they just get trapped
in an echo chamber, you need me,you know, me as well, and, you
(37:10):
know, so it's like, they justreinforce things that they
already are, like, you know,more or less conditioned to
believe, is what they believein, you know, because 100%,
because they've been seeingthings over and over and over
again. And, but slowly, thosethings become more extreme, more
extreme, whether you're on theright and left, and, you know,
next thing you like, next thing,you know, it's like, Dude, this,
(37:34):
it's insane. What's, you know,it's crazy. And that's kind of
gets back to, you know, usbeing, we really need to meet,
meet in the middle, as a societyand be like, you know, figure
out what's important to us. Andreally, it's, for most people,
family, you know, health andbeing able to create a future
for yourself. And, you know, Idon't care what anybody says,
(37:55):
nobody wants to pay more taxes.
So no, yeah, so But the thingis, it all gets back to what
we're identified with the lessthe less that we can identify
ourselves with stuff. And I'mjust talking from my own
experience, the less the morethat I've come from a place of
like, I don't know, I don'tknow. I don't know, do I really
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know what's going on? I'm justtrying to make it through the
day, trying to become the be thebest version of myself? Do I
really have an opinion on what'shappening? And, you know, like,
Hong Kong, or Pakistan orwhatever, you know, of course I
do. I just throw in randomplaces out there. But you know,
Josh Bolton (38:36):
two big things happened, though, was that two
big things did happen to those
clay (38:42):
Hong Kong and Pakistan.
You said Afghanistan, though.
Oh, yeah. Afghanistan, for sure.
Yeah, that was that was that wasterrible. Tragic. Yeah, we just
straight armed the Taliban andmade them one of the most
powerful militaries and that inthe world. What? Yeah, and not
to mention just leaving tons ofAmericans behind but yeah, I
mean, so like, but ouridentifications man, you know,
(39:03):
like, the more we can becomeless identified with things
outside of ourselves and moreidentified with ourselves, then
we can actually get clear onwhat it is that we want, you
know, if we want to, you know,take trading to the next level,
I can help you do, by the way,then, getting clear on that.
What's going to help you getclear is by pushing out all the
(39:25):
distractions, the scrolling thedevices, and really being like,
man, I owe it to myself, and atthe end of the day, I know it's
gonna dark. I talked about thismore and more, because I think
about it more and more, but, youknow, the clock is ticking on
our lifespan every single day.
(39:46):
You know, people can be like,yeah, you know, it is but it's
like, No, you might not be heretomorrow, one of these days,
like one of these days is goingto be the last day whether you
know it or not either driving onthe road, maybe you're 60 maybe
you do it and you asleep but youknow this there's a we have a
finite amount of time here andpeople don't realize that the
(40:06):
clock's ticking clock isstraight up taken to like how
much time are you going todevote to other things outside
of yourself like what what dressdid they wear at the Met Gala?
Those people don't care aboutabout us so like you know let's
not care about that and let'sstart caring about ourselves and
start caring about our familieslet's start caring about our
(40:27):
lives and our futures and howwe're going to get there is like
what we need to figure out forourselves and you know what, the
way we do that is by gettingdialed in right get to piggyback
get dialed in on our healthfitness I mean like you know,
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God the Creator gave us the bodyand you know it's a blessing to
have and taking care of itreally just making an effort to
do that is you know, we we oweit we have a more or less
obligation to do that. And sobuddy is like maybe we need to
go outside the dog frame foranybody that's listening to this
(41:09):
video but yeah, so I'm gettingdialed in on those things
because like what else are wegonna do with their lives and
the thing is is like our purposehere is to become the best
version of ourselves so we canshare that with somebody else
who needs who needs that thathelp and direction in their life
because everybody has everybodyhas a story to tell you don't
(41:32):
have to you don't have to been ajunkie like me where I was
whereas like man you know myfamily didn't even want me to go
home because they didn't wantlike you know they could see me
like that so I had nowhere to gopretty much homeless you know,
but you that was like thecriteria that was given to me to
(41:54):
work with everybody has theirown criteria whether you know,
whatever it is, you know,whether they don't have legs or
were born you know, whatever itis, but like the creator gives
us the criteria in order tobecome the best version of
ourselves and by doing but likejust to take it back to the
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scrolling only thing that'sgonna do is just take us away
from ourselves and people aren'tmaking money off that because
you know you're looking at adspeople are you know, they're
they're data mining you'rescrolling habits so not only are
you buying products but you'realso your mental habits are
(42:40):
being mined and sold it's thesame
Josh Bolton (42:43):
Oh it is and this funny like right now I actually
just reinstalled Instagram justto add you to get your link tree
and then I re installed it. DidYeah, yeah. I that was the
biggest one for me. Likeespecially during the heated
lockdowns there was not muchgoing on so I was on Instagram
tik tok and I was playing videogames because where I was we
were super hardcore. Youcouldn't even go to like my own
(43:05):
work without like the militarysomehow showing up but uh yeah
and at a certain point as todoing this is when I got that
pivot point cuz I remember themarch crash and like why were
some people dancing in thestreet like is the best thing
sunset summer crying like it isworse than Beelzebub kind of
thing. And that's when I startedstudying I actually just cut
(43:26):
everything off I was just likeNo, I will not be distracted I
will focus on this. I don't knowit yet but I'll figure it out
and like you this is a skill nomatter what it will always pay
me I don't need people like methey will pay me no matter what.
clay (43:40):
Right yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, at the end of the day,
you know, it's turned off thesocial like all the social
networking and stuff and alsothe TV and all that and then
just like went outside of Tamit's a nice beautiful day right?
You know, and like life keepsgoing on and life keeps
(44:01):
happening we're just in thisworld of more or less illusion
on a lot of different levels.
But like it especially with theit's it's it's a trap, but at
least the fastest way to freedomis realizing that it's it's a
trap and you know, to witnesswhat's going on from an outside
perspective. And but then alsobeing a part of it and you know,
(44:28):
getting getting dialed in onwhat Josh wants getting dialed
in on what clay wants gettingdialed in, and what clay does
every single day. You know howto pack as much as many things
and I'm just it's a it's a workin progress and still just
getting better at it. But youknow, I don't have downtime. And
that's a good thing, right?
Josh Bolton (44:50):
That is good. Other than sleeping, but that's
productive either way.
clay (44:54):
Yeah, but that's like five hours. Oh,
Josh Bolton (44:57):
yeah, you know, that's not healthy. Then.
clay (45:00):
I mean, yeah, I mean, five to six, all I really need, like
the yoga that I do withoutgetting into too much detail are
called Korea's and they reallycharge up the energy system and
the bodies go. I mean, yeah, sixhours is good. Six hours is good
set, you know, seven, but Ican't do more than that anyways
(45:22):
even if I wanted to. So like,you know I your mind's always
racing? no no, no no not at allnot not really I mean sometimes
but like, I know my body when isjust my I guess the circadian
rhythm, you'd say once, onceit's five o'clock, man, I'm up,
you know, I can lay lay in bed.
But now I'm just like, you get.
(45:46):
So you get up and and it's muchbetter. It's like quiet, a lot
more quiet in the morning,
Josh Bolton (45:53):
I get so much done in the morning. It's insane. So
actually, you mentioned earlier,and I've been trying to find a
point to insert it. But I neverjust gonna do it. You mentioned
earlier there are firms that arewilling to essentially train you
and give you free money. Well,not free, you got to make them
money to us. What are some ofthe places like let's say, I
just want to apply? I know, it'sprobably commission based,
(46:14):
whatever you make that you justtake a percentage, right?
clay (46:17):
Right. Yeah, yeah. So this is what my my group is the
financial side of it, and thetrading aspect of it. And what I
do is I created a program thatwalks people through the exact
same process that I did, inorder to get funded with outside
capital to trade with by thesefirms. And there's some, there's
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some good ones out there that weuse, and here's some, there's
some bad ones, right. So youkind of need to know, it's
helpful to know which is which.
But, you know, and you'll seethat when you log into some of
my stuff on Igy, what I talkedabout on telegram, some of the
bigger ones are ft. Mo, if youdid want to look it up there,
there's a few differentcompanies. And what I do is I
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teach people exactly the processthat I do, and have done in
order to get funded, the waythat works is, you know, they're
not like, new, Josh is crushingit, let's send them $100,000 You
know, it, because like Joshcould disappear, right? So what
they do, is, but that's wherethe funding starts, you can you
(47:22):
can apply for less, but what I,you know, the guys that I met,
and girls, that I mentor, Iencourage them to do whatever's
within their range, but startout and test for 100 100k
because With 100k, you canactually make a significant
impact on your life, you know,so yeah, if you're, if you're
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trading and you're putting in,you're working all day, or all
week, and I was in this cyclefor a long time, where I, when I
was figuring out how to do this,and figured out by losing my own
money, and like, you know, Iwould work all week, then
deposit it, and, you know, havesome success and then lose it.
(48:05):
But the reality is, is I put in,like, $1,000 1500 500 even if it
even if it was 10k we'll justuse that as an example. Right?
If you did 10% of that in amonth, which is a massive, which
is great. You know, that's$1,000 you can't do much on
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$1,000 these days, monthly, youcan't live off that, that's for
sure. And so, like, in reality,having access to 100k that will
impact your life for sure. So,you know, 100k then 10% of that
is $10,000 and typically withthese funds, you get to keep
(48:50):
depending on which 170 to 80% ofyour profits.
Josh Bolton (48:56):
Oh, that's nice.
There was one I was I wasapplying for and there was
essentially they gave you a 50kaccount and but they're like
it's a 2070 no 2575 split, youget 25 or whatever you make, we
get 75 and I'm like, well thenwhy am I even trying can say at
least 5050 I get it like I haveany reason to you get to $10,000
(49:17):
so I can get my 5k kind ofthing.
clay (49:22):
Right, right, for sure. So and you know if it was if it was
10 then that would mean you'ddone 20% that month that might
and so that would have been thatwould have been huge and you
know, pretty hard to do. Soyeah, a
Josh Bolton (49:38):
lot of risk if you if you're not. If you don't know
the technicals that's a lot ofrisk.
clay (49:43):
Yeah, yeah. and risk management is the key so and
that's what my group is allabout risk management
psychology. Usually the peoplethat come into my higher level
coaching group are about likeyou know, your experience level
where they know technicals andhave some success know what
they're doing. But really atthat point, it becomes a matter
of trade psychology, right? Sothe trade psychology, the nine,
(50:07):
just trick personal psychologyreally. And how to get that
dialed in is really what we doand build that belief system
that, hey, this, this ispossible, you know, on the front
end that you know, it doesn'thappen overnight, you have to
have like, you know, livetrading calls we do Tuesday,
Wednesdays and Thursday morningfor New York trading session,
(50:28):
okay, it's definitely helpfulfor for people to be on those,
they can trade alongside me andthe other people that are either
going through the testing phasehave already been funded, or you
know, figuring out theirstrategy in the early stages of
my program. But yeah, and youknow, typically, depending on
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the firm 70 or 80 to 80% of theprofits, you get to keep and the
way it works is you actually getlogin credentials, I know you
probably already aware of it,but you know, for anybody
listening when you take achallenge, which is a test and
typically you have to hitanywhere between eight to 10%
(51:09):
target within within 30 days, 30a month, so like 25 trading days
for and so you have to hit inbetween a 10% target 10% max
loss, it's on a demo account,it's just a trial tab, or 5%
drawdown daily loss and so thoseare you have to stay and trade
(51:32):
within those parameters and tryto hit this 10% target and once
you do hit that if you getfunded or when you do then you
know those rules are still inplace, you still have to you
know adhere to those riskmanagement parameters. But you
know, I teach all about thatprogram, the best way to do that
different software you can useas well like to help you manage
(51:54):
your trades, which is superhelpful. And
Josh Bolton (51:57):
just curious, what kind of software do you
recommend?
clay (52:02):
So for like, what I was referring to as a Trade Manager,
okay, so like, you know, youplay you can enter in how much
how much what percentage youwant to risk, you know, where,
you know, when it will move yourstop loss to entry, at what, you
know, field take partial profitsalong the way. And, you know,
that way, it's an EAessentially, that will you know,
(52:25):
help to manage your risk thatway so, you know, you don't have
to be glued to your phone or,or, you know, trading platform.
So there's a bunch of math outthere I use one you know, you
can mess message me on telegramnow I can send it to you.
Josh Bolton (52:41):
Because I bought into tracking trade for Gecko
software. Okay. It's truly whatthe like the hedge fund managers
use. And I wait my, what's itcalled? track in trade?
clay (52:55):
Okay, so again, software is it like a journaling software
so attracts your,
Josh Bolton (53:01):
what you're doing everything. It has live charts,
it has a journal option, butmainly it's user interfaces Do
you want here it shows you allthe technicals I can literally
press a button it will give mean instantly it's the futures
markets what I'm doing with it.
Okay, and you can instantly getme out to Okay, and there's just
no paid derivative thing inbetween I am strictly I have
(53:25):
full fee to the market. Theyhave forex and they have stocks
to
clay (53:31):
Nice Nice. Yeah, I mean, because there's that execution
time which you know, like thatcould be the difference between
a winning winner and a loser youknow, so yeah, that sounds cool,
man. Yeah, for sure.
Josh Bolton (53:46):
And it's just that's the one I picked up and I
worked it out with the guy Ipaid whatever extra and he gave
me essentially like two monthsfree. So it was just one of
those I'm like, Okay, now I haveone year i'm i've been paying
for trading. And then like mylittle dinky t me TD Ameritrade
account. I actually trade withreal money. But now that's where
(54:07):
I've gotten the point. I'm like,Okay, my only hiccup is money.
Right now.
clay (54:11):
Have you looked into the Coinbase stock? It's okay. Yeah,
I think that would be I thinkit's gonna be the next like,
Tesla.
Josh Bolton (54:22):
Oh, absolutely.
It's just the thing like I telleveryone I'm like right now
Winston, when are you able topay IRS with Bitcoin? When we
get to that point where likeAmazon's taking USD coin Oh,
done by as much as you can kindof thing.
clay (54:39):
Right? Yeah, yeah. But uh, so yeah, man. I mean, that's how
the that's how the fundingworks. You know, it's, we have
guys getting anger and girls Ikeep sad to say that's like a
habit, but people are gettingfunded nearly every day in our
group. And you know, it's juststarting at 100k. And there's
multiple different firms outthere and that's Basically the
(55:00):
starting point, but you know,you can do it to a test for
200k. Or depending on the firm.
And what what we do and I showpeople how to do is how to, you
know, be get funded by one fortest on another one and then
link them up to copiers to tradecopiers. So then you could just
trade one account, but it's alsoon a different platform. trading
(55:23):
with another, another firm,right? So you can accumulate
quite a decent amount ofcapital. Oh, yeah. doing that.
So but it's it like I said, youknow, one thing about me, I'm,
I'm straight up forward abouteverything that's going on and
(55:44):
like, you know, like, I'll neverbe like, yeah, you'll be funded
by, you know, tomorrow and thendriving a Lambo by the end of
the week. It doesn't work likethat. No, it does. It doesn't
but you know, if you're, ifyou're dedicated, just like
anything, you know, if you'rededicated to selling coffee mugs
on Amazon, give yourself abouttwo years, you could be like,
the coffee mug person. You couldbe the coffee mug dude, for
(56:08):
sure. Yeah. But like most peoplethrow in the towel on most
things within three to four myexperience, three to six weeks.
So yeah, it's
Josh Bolton (56:19):
like I don't have my Lambo by the end of the
month. What the fuck, this isstupid. Right? Right, right?
clay (56:24):
How long have you been trading?
Josh Bolton (56:25):
trading since January? I've been studying for
another year. So like March iswhen it all started. So like a
year and a half I've beenstudying the last nine months
I've been actually likeexecuting trades.
clay (56:40):
So like the lock downs and stuff happen. And you're like,
Okay, well, looks like this. Icould take advantage of this and
learn something. Oh, yeah.
Josh Bolton (56:48):
And it's great. The the place where I work, they
don't mind if we listen to likemusic or audio books in our ear.
It's like, you gotta have oneheadphone, obviously. So we if
there's a fire, we gotta yell atyou fire so you can get out. But
yeah, I've been just listeningto books, Donte Alo investor.
Thinking Grow Rich, there wasone, there's
clay (57:12):
a great book for traders trading in the zone.
Josh Bolton (57:15):
Yeah, I think it was I bought the audio book,
trading for a living. And it'sexactly what you're saying,
you're gonna have your riskparameters is almost gonna be no
emotion involved, you're juststaring and be like, he's like,
he says, in a more gruesomemanner. He's like, there could
be blood flowing everywhere.
Don't touch it. It is, it is ait looks good. The moment you're
(57:38):
gonna buy it, it's going to gosouth on you. He's like, just
sit and wait, if you have towait a couple months, just do
it.
clay (57:47):
I mean, that's true. For sure. So if it doesn't fit the
trading plan,
Josh Bolton (57:54):
and that's the biggest one, he's like, figure
out your risk, what you'rewilling to do. get cold with it,
because he's like, you're goingto have to make pull trades that
you that are lucrative, butbecause of whatever rule, you
have to get rid of it. And hejust, he's like, just learn to
have no emotions for thattimeframe. Be in your zone,
done. Once he's done. He's like,then go have fun, do whatever
(58:15):
you need to do.
clay (58:17):
That's good advice. For sure. So yeah, you know, it's
it's every day, I think, for me,it's just learning every single
day, being able to connect withother traders still always, you
know, just leveling up in somany different ways from, it's
(58:37):
super important for people torecognize where they are, or
where they were, when theystarted. what it was like trying
to figure it out, and reallystart to get dialed in on
actually even having some arealistic point of view of like,
where I'm at now. And you know,most people, including me, and
you are like, well, I thoughtit'd be further along by now.
(59:00):
But I'm a hell of a lot betterthan where I was, right? And so
that that's a good way to reallyjust even start to be realistic
in order to practice gratitude.
And then to and then to beconscience conscious of where to
push forward into the nextphase. So
Josh Bolton (59:21):
now and that's the biggest one, like, I've come to
realize it's like, yes, you canhave these lofty goals but be
realistic set smaller steps. Soyou can you can achieve it on
your way all the way up to thetop.
clay (59:33):
Yeah, for sure. I call those targets, having like just
targets daily targets that we doevery day. But then having those
like, you know, it's pie in thesky. Massive goals that seem
seem unrealistic, but, you know,you have to be able to thank
them first for them then to bepossible. So
Josh Bolton (59:54):
I'm just curious, how long do I got you for?
Because it's already about anhour. Yeah,
clay (59:58):
that's it. Thought it I have a call coming up next
Josh Bolton (01:00:04):
oh wait then was just quick last question to
actually because we know whereto contact you multiple times is
someone aspiring to be like youwhat are some tips tricks or
advice give them if somebody waswhat what was the question if
someone is aspiring to be likeyour successful trader or yoga
person
clay (01:00:23):
yeah you know first take out a take out a piece of paper
and write down like what isactually important to me what
you know, what do I representnow and what would I like to
represent and then you knowgoing into massive action
basically the same way I hadsaid about you know 20 minutes
(01:00:47):
ago It starts with on thephysical area just like just you
know, just go all in on yourphysical health and like to
exhaustion to where you're likereally, especially if you're
you've been stagnant for a longtime, which most people have
been that's going to reallystart to shift the energy in the
(01:01:07):
body to then be like doing thatover and over it's just going to
create more positive thoughtsyou see the results faster like
you know in the mirror, you'refeeling better you're you're not
as like lethargic all day andyou know, then you'll start to
get some mental clarity and sobut it all starts with writing
it down. And then like followingthrough and taking the steps to
(01:01:31):
get there which are physicalhealth in terms of diet, mental
spiritual, and then and thenreally starting to get dialed in
on the financial and investingand educating ourselves self
education and that term isbecause nobody's going to teach
it to you unless unless you andI will I will for sure that's
(01:01:53):
where you know, somebody couldjoin my team or whatever but you
know, it's not it's not going tobe like the matrix and it's not
going to get downloaded into youmore likely and you know,
they're not going to teach it onABC nightly news are four and
there's too many
Josh Bolton (01:02:12):
there's too many hedge funds involved then
they're gonna be like, nope,we're not going to film that.
clay (01:02:17):
Yeah, no, it's just controlling people with in the
way that think anyways, yeah,
Josh Bolton (01:02:24):
the negative loop.
So then the other one is otherthan work What have you done to
keep yourself busy during theselockdown times? Uh,
clay (01:02:33):
yeah, you know, I mean, just not much, Shea not much
changed. Really, you know, I wasin Tennessee, it wasn't that
bad. office, I could still go toevery day. And you know, so that
that helped. For sure the gymwas closed for a while, so a lot
of just running on runningstreet workouts. And just since
(01:02:57):
all my stuff's online, you know,I just double down I had a rocky
point for sure. I got depressedI got you know, we
Josh Bolton (01:03:07):
all did at one point. It was unavoidable.
clay (01:03:11):
Yeah, big time. And then, you know, snapped out of that,
by the grace of God and justlike was like, dude, you got to
get it together man. And it wasactually a good a good
experience because it helped tojust just another you know,
before he any if you're in adepression or anxiety or using
or whatever it is, you have abreakthrough on the other side
(01:03:34):
of that you just have to, youknow, go through the pain of
look, turning inwards to getthere, and so on. But yeah, and
so then as I just kind of wokeup, I was like, man, and just
started looking at everything asan opportunity every single day
as an opportunity. Getting onthis call is an opportunity
going to the gym before it wasan opportunity, everything I
(01:03:54):
have going on at the rest of theday. Those are opportunities to
connect with people instead ofthe opposite, which and that's
true. That's the truth. What'snot true is that like, God, I
got it. Just make it through theday. Man, I don't want to see
this person, that person that'sjust all just fairytales it's
going on in the mind. And youknow, things that those are
(01:04:19):
attitudes, those are attitudesyou have about life, which
aren't which are false, butwhat's truth? What is the truth
and living in that truth iseveryday is an opportunity and
one day we're not gonna havethis opportunity. Right? That's
not exactly what I did in thelockdown, but I, you know,
somehow clarified it. Somehowthat shifted to and I realized
(01:04:43):
that and you know, it helps, ithelped me It helps me every
single day when I when Iremember that to live in just so
much more gratitude and you getinto that gratitude. And that's
just the key and the doorway.
For more just abundance andflow. filament in life. So you
know, it was just that thelockdown is all about
(01:05:03):
perspective, man.
Josh Bolton (01:05:07):
It really is.
That's the key I've noticed foreverything. And doesn't matter,
dude, appreciate you I don'twanna hold you too long for your
call.
clay (01:05:15):
Yeah, thanks a lot and messaged me on telegram and love
to love to have you in my groupand help you get funded better
and then you can do do anotherphone call after you got funded
that'd be pretty epic. So
Josh Bolton (01:05:27):
now it'd be frickin awesome. That would be cool. All
right.
clay (01:05:31):
Thank you. All right, brother. Thanks a lot. shoot me
a message and for everybodylistening. Ronan forex group is
my Instagram. Ronin 4x onYouTube, and thanks a lot for
having me, Josh.
Josh Bolton (01:05:42):
Absolute pleasure.
How you doing?
clay (00:04):
Hey buddy, how's it going?
Pretty good. It took me a secondto find the link since we
reschedule it.
Josh Bolton (00:12):
Yeah, I was figuring Something came up
because you did you instantlyaccepted him I probably just
can't find it. It's inpromotions or whatever.
clay (00:20):
How's it going? Man, I did a little research on what it is
that you got going on. It's kindof a all encompassing podcast
and mostly on mindsetentrepreneur. And I guess that
that genre business specificallyor a little bit, everything,
Josh Bolton (00:39):
it's a little bit of everything. Now I when I
initially started this, I wantedto just talk to business people
and get a good vibe of where I'mat. Now that I have it. I'm
like, one of my guests even saidit business doesn't sell. I know
Mike, you're a it's a He's like,you'll always be known as the
business guy. And but he's Ijust have fun talk to whoever
about whatever. Yeah, so that'skind of where I'm going now with
(01:02):
this.
clay (01:03):
Oh, man. I mean, I agree.
It's, I mean, you can findbusiness stuff anywhere. But
what's really interesting,especially right now as people,
man people just want to connect,because we're so disconnected.
Josh Bolton (01:17):
Yes. Oh, that's just crazy. Like today. I was
working on writing up like athing and because I was watching
the markets, and they werecrashing on my pool. I was like,
This is great. I'm gonna startsnapping up stuff right now.
kind of thing for today'sepisode. Oh, no, no, in general
is looking at the VIX and thecurrency pairs.
clay (01:39):
Okay. Okay. So your trader? Yeah. Nice. Okay.
Josh Bolton (01:43):
That's when you said that I was like, dude,
clay (01:45):
let's do it. Okay, nice, man. Nice. Well, it says, dude,
it's so important right now forpeople to even if you don't want
to be a day trader, whatever.
Like, there's huge changes rightnow that are happening in the
financial system, whether youwant to accept it or not. It's
actually you know, where it'scoming. Where it's coming. Yeah,
with the stimulus and inflationand Oh, yeah. You know,
(02:08):
cryptocurrencies coming in andthere's a lot of speculation. I
mean, it's not even speculationthat Federal Reserve has a
crypto currency called fed
Josh Bolton (02:20):
coin. Yeah, it's like EUR USD coin.
clay (02:23):
Well, yeah. So you know, pushing everything into some
sort of digital currency system,which, you know, I'm not a fan
of at all. I mean, either,right. Right. So yeah, but like,
for the average person, toactually like, sure. There's all
(02:43):
this stuff that happened in thepast two years, but at the heart
of it is it's all about themoney. It's always about that.
Yeah. But even more, at a deeperlevel, it's, you know, to some
people, money is nothing at acertain point, but like, how can
you change the whole system toreally like, lupa this way?
(03:05):
Money is going to be the thingthat's going to create a
checkmate for people. Oh,absolutely. It does right now. I
mean, I guess that's what's coolabout the cryptocurrencies I'm
not, I'm just more you know,trading, helping people learn
how to trade and there's a bunchof opportunities now, where you
can from home, get funded withoutside capital, by different
(03:28):
prop trading firms, given thatyou can follow their rules,
manage your risk, and, you know,trade within some sort of career
strategy and the right riskmanagement in order to be
successful as a trader, and notjust gambling, basically. So but
it's a huge opportunity forpeople and that's what I show
people how to do. But you know,on a deeper level, they're just
(03:51):
so much more going on, andpeople need to learn about it. I
mean, like, you're like, there'sa reason why they don't teach us
this stuff in school. You know,if everyone knew it doesn't work
that well, yeah, only a fewpeople really know about it.
Everybody else like oh, yeah, Imean, most people don't even
really know what inflationmeans.
Josh Bolton (04:13):
They don't. And that's the scary part. And
that's like, I work at a grocerystore, like near my house. And I
told them like inflation iscoming whether we like it or
not, like Well, yeah, whatever.
I'm like, the cheapest chemicalburritos, like the Tina's
Whatever. I'm like, that's goneup 20 cents in six months. And
they use the most insanechemicals that are cheap. And
(04:36):
the that's even going up inprice.
clay (04:40):
Yes. Not even food. Yeah, basically. Yeah, yeah. I mean,
the grocery store is just one ofthe easiest place to see it.
Verse four gas station. So yeah,I mean, it's like undeniable for
people to say that, Oh, well,that's just,
Josh Bolton (04:56):
that's just them, not us. It's like no, it hurts
everyone.
clay (04:59):
You Yeah yeah yeah
Unknown (05:01):
it
clay (05:01):
definitely not just everybody but like years from
now for sure
Josh Bolton (05:06):
yeah there's gonna be a whole generation that's
just sadly screwed over kind ofthing if we don't if we don't
play our cards right yeah thenlike a lot of people are gonna
be screwed
clay (05:18):
yeah yeah so like and by playing our cards right means
like you got to turn off thewhat they're telling us on you
know the news and actually dosome research for yourself and
that's like what's just soimportant for everybody to do no
matter what the topic is. I'mnot you know, I'm not trying to
(05:39):
like push one one viewpoint orthe other but like, you got like
look for yourself. Most peoplewill argue once at one side or
the other. And really like ifyou just follow the money trail
it's pretty you know,undeniable. Yeah. Is my dog
Josh Bolton (05:58):
I would say I got one here they're barking outside
but my noise gets cutting himout
clay (06:02):
nice nice
Josh Bolton (06:04):
so yeah, that's that's the big one so you're
strictly forex then right?
clay (06:09):
So we do well mostly currencies, commodities like
specifically gold and indices aswell so like you know this
morning we're trading or I'vehad some trades on the Dow us 30
once it finally hit hit thebottom there so is buying buying
the bottom and which sometimescan be a good play but yeah, so
(06:33):
a big part of my strategy is youknow, determining what's going
on with the currency pairs basedon the overall market sentiment
of what's happening with indicesright so in other words, in a in
a more risk on environment, likeit has been pretty much for the
(06:56):
past year you're gonna seeindices s&p 500 NASDAQ dow just
marching for marching higher newall time highs and that's
considered risk on environmentand so that's going to create
less strength for things likethe dollar or Japanese yen and
then the flip side of that is ina more risk adverse environment
(07:21):
like today you could see youknow, the Dollar strengthened
quite a bit quite a bit and sodid Japanese yen and gold as
well. They do Yeah, yeah. Solike and that means basically
the risk adverse scenarioeverything's hitting the fan and
(07:41):
the markets are dropping andespecially the people that are
just kind of in the middle thatare the retail traders are like
Oh, let me just get my money outof there and I'll just buy
dollars let me just get out soyou know, I don't lose it all
and so that's what that's whathappens in creates the panic
selling and for it to drop andso typically when that happens
you're going to see the dollarstring so that's one of my so
(08:05):
it's all it's just likeeverything in life dude
everything is connected.
Josh Bolton (08:09):
Oh yeah. And like the base of it all is bonds
pretty much right?
clay (08:13):
Yeah. And you know, if you start to think of things in and
just life in general the waythat we're all connected the
markets as well you know, itstarts to make a lot more sense
that was a big aha moment for mebecause like in terms of in
terms of trading you know, ifyou see more if you see the
money flows go out of the dollarand then to say, the pound or
(08:35):
the euro and then out of theeuro and then all of a sudden
Canadian dollar because oilprices are pushing higher and it
just go on you know, the bigbanks are just moving from one
to the next to the next. Nextit's really trying to catch that
kids have money trail. So butyou know, like anything in life.
(08:57):
everything's connected and I'mconnected. You're here we are.
We're connected. You're right.
Right. You're in Cal,
Josh Bolton (09:03):
California. Yes.
clay (09:07):
Where
Josh Bolton (09:08):
were you at?
clay (09:09):
Nashville, Nashville,
Josh Bolton (09:11):
Tennessee.
clay (09:12):
I got a bunch of California is coming here,
Josh Bolton (09:15):
that's for sure.
Where they're gonna leave indroves now, especially with the
election results.
clay (09:21):
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. I wouldn't be. I would. I
wouldn't blame them. But that'sjust me. Right? Yeah. So like,
but yeah, you know, everything'sconnected and on. Right now,
everybody's just wanting tothink of like, that we're so
separate. And it's like my sideand your side. And that's part
(09:45):
of it. Yeah, and that's what'sreally like dividing us in
creating an environment thatit's been pretty well calculated
for it to be that way. Where youknow, nothing really gets solved
for for the better because itdoesn't matter what you believe
on. either side ultimately ifeverybody kind of set their
identifications aside they wouldrealize that there are a lot
(10:07):
more in the middle you know wejust want freedom good food good
clean water a place to live youknow good education for family
and kids and
Josh Bolton (10:20):
babies like sprinkles on top your boss
actually appreciate your work.
What's that? said a littlesprinkle on top like your boss
actually appreciate your work.
clay (10:29):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Or you know or you know, start to
start your own job right everypeople freedom to be able to do
that and become the boss. Andthat's what that's what is great
about this country you know, andyou know, everybody should have
the opportunity to do that youknow, you know what I mean? So
(10:51):
right, but like yeah, soeverything's connected whether
it's we're talking about marketswe're talking about the way we
interact with each other just sostrange and you know, people
seem like because like I'mmaking a point whenever I think
about this morning, too, I go toa I've been changing my routine
(11:14):
around getting up super earlyand three at 3am and going to
yoga class five and then there'sa class after it at six and so
everybody's like standing therewith their mats and stuff.
They're like oh my god, it's soearly. It's gonna come down the
stairs. I'm like, Hey, goodmorning and of course I just got
off like a super hot intenseyoga class and I'm all like, up
(11:37):
and stuff but like tellingsomebody else Good morning and
usually when when you do that,they're like, oh, oh yeah, good
morning, because nobody doesthat anymore. There's no
connection we're so you know, inour own little and in our own
little worlds and our own littlebubbles that the connection is
gone but as soon as you even tryto make an effort more you know
(11:58):
usually some people aren't asreceptive but that's their
that's their issue really. Butit's kind of a fun practice to
do especially for somebody thatwas is more introverted you
know, I used to be reallyintroverted I guess but not not
so much but I mean like I and asyou know, some of my story
(12:21):
before I got on the podcastnotes drugs alcohol pills, I
grew up in Kentucky and rightwhen the start of the the opiate
epidemic really started youknow, and that was like when I
was in high school in the 90sand there's pain clinics
everywhere. And so like thatstarted this thing, where you
(12:44):
know, any type any type of selfdestructive behavior only
creates more anxiety,depression, and it becomes a
snowball effect right and so inorder to reverse that it's been
a long process but in order toreverse that I had to do things
(13:05):
that I wanted to do like ordidn't want to do like well said
man like when I was gettingclean like I would go to say you
know, some sort of recoverymeeting or like a 12 step
meeting and just like desperateyou know, or like or yoga class
in the gym because I knew it waswhat I needed to do and I pull
in the pull in the parking lotjust get overwhelmed with
(13:28):
anxiety and you know talk myselfout of and so that and that just
kept me sick for a long ass timeand but it was just the fact
that was unwilling to open upand you know, try to connect
with people and really theconnection is you know, one of
the most healing things thatanybody can do you don't have to
(13:50):
get to where you're strung outor whatever to do that but you
know a lot of people it's justfear anxiety people you know,
some people like having a maskon because they can hide by you
know what I mean I'm not sayinglike it's right or wrong like
you know if masks this or that,but it just like creates even
(14:11):
more of a barrier for people toshield themselves and not open
up and if you ever heard thesaying you know, our our our
secrets keep us sick. I thinkthat's it.
Josh Bolton (14:22):
I think Yeah, I know what you're going for.
clay (14:25):
Yeah, secrets keep us and that's true man, you know, like,
but whatever it is. Even if likeeven if like it was this
scenario like man I did. Iwalked in the door and this is a
good example like when I was Iwas terrified to like speak at a
(14:45):
at a meeting right like a 12step meeting I had to go to when
I was getting clean, andsometimes what I shared was
like, Hey, my name is Clay. I'm,you know, an alcoholic or an
addict. Just because thestandard, you know what you have
to say or split To say theformalities of it. And I'd be
like, I don't have anything toshare. I'm just so scared right
(15:07):
now that I just had to saysomething. People will be like,
thanks, by the way, but thething is, they've all been
there. Right? Pretty mucheverybody has been. Oh, yeah.
Right, exactly. But it's like,at what point do you want to
actually just like, admit that,you know, 10 I'm my energy's
(15:33):
weird right now. I'm not feelinggood or whatever. A lot of
times, other people are like,Yeah, me too, is something going
on right now. But it just like amatter of just like, take me off
one layer of, you know, however,we shield itself so sorry, dude,
I just went on a huge rant.
Josh Bolton (15:51):
I love it. No.
Okay. All right. Love it. Yeah.
The biggest one for me is it waswhen you said the you had an
addiction. I don't really openlytalk about it. But I was
terribly addicted to alcohol.
And I was trying to do theaterwork. I tried to be the lighting
guys to get paid a shit ton ofmoney. I didn't realize until
halfway through, you had to likepretty much do speed to get
(16:14):
through the job. So I wasn'twilling to go that far. But I
was drinking nonstop, or smokingat least two packs a day. And at
a certain point, I had this dumbidea. I'm like, oh, cigarettes
are expensive. I'll vape andsaid, well, as one of those as
I'm leaning back in class, youhear a terrible Rep. And it
(16:35):
wasn't my clothes. And one of mybuddies next thing is like,
Josh, you might need to go tothe nurse. So I went, I told the
nurse and she's like, honey, youjust ripped your own lungs. I
was like, Oh, well, I literallyjust handed the vaporizer throw
it away.
clay (16:58):
And then know what to do.
Like,
Josh Bolton (17:00):
I'm it was just amount of formaldehyde in a vape
is like 10 times more than acigarette.
clay (17:08):
So my lungs was that like those jewels or whatever they're
called,
Josh Bolton (17:11):
I got my own, I would get my own thing by like,
it would taste like candy kindof thing. But yeah, it just
standard whatever they did.
formaldehyde was 10 times morethan usual. And my lungs
essentially sealed up. They'refine now, but it was one of
those. I'm like, I'm gonna diereally young if I keep this up.
clay (17:31):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Man.
I mean, you know, ultimately,man, it's really not. It's like
it's not the fact that thepeople because you could have
been like, Hey, guys, I want tobe a lighting I want to work
because Are you in LA orsomething? Is that where you're
la? Yeah. Near LA. Like, dude, Iwant to be a lighting man. I
(17:51):
want to work on certain theater.
And I want to get in the film. Idon't know if you did, or
whatever. But you know, like,you guys can drink and you can
do math and like, whatever. Butlike, I'm here for me. It takes
a lot of strength to do that forme to like for me to go and
like, say if I go out, and like,oh, man, you're not you're not
(18:12):
gonna drink. And some peoplethink it's weird, or whatever.
But like, I'm dialed into mypurpose now that like, you know,
it doesn't appeal to me anyways.
Right? So like, you know, sothere's so there's that, but
like, it takes on the flip sideof that, you know, the way I
used to be, I've been in thatyour shoes before a million
(18:33):
times in that scenario where,you know, go to a concert, I
would just take whatever,whatever, pretty much is handed
to me. And, you know, it usedsometimes it'd be fun, but
ultimately, it ended prettytragically like down the road
when, when the music was over,so to speak. So like, but you
know, it's just being dialed inon what it is that we want to do
(18:55):
and why we're there. But youknow, sometimes sometimes that's
really hard, if not impossible,if we don't know what it is that
we want to do. All together inthe first place.
Josh Bolton (19:11):
And for me, my case. So back in, like late 90s,
they didn't really havepolitically correct or
understand a lot of things. So Ihad ADHD as a kid, but in the
90s, they didn't know what thehell that was. So they thought I
was schizophrenic, because theywould switch mood so quickly. So
since like, I was eight, untileight or nine, until, like,
(19:37):
three years ago, I was on someheavy shit. Adderall, they had
me on Adderall. That didn't endwell. Ritalin. I felt like there
were spiders and I was actuallypulling my skin off me because I
couldn't stand it. But it waslike, it was not dopamine, but
it was like a weird D word. Dpill back then I think it's even
circulation. Again, like as alittle eight year old. I gained
(19:59):
like six 6570 pounds in threemonths. And
clay (20:04):
yeah, that sucks, man. I mean, like, the ads have been
pretty traumatic for you, youknow with with other kids and
all that stuff and Oh yeah, thebullying was new last year like,
you know, on on all thesedifferent medications and stuff
and but that you know, I'm not abig fan of big pharma industry
because they don't they don'tcare about that kind of thing
Josh Bolton (20:27):
no they don't and I was in the guy who diagnosed me
was just impatient and he'slike, oh, he he's happy for like
two seconds and he's sad for thenext two seconds, he's
schizophrenic signs get out kindof thing. Right? So it was a
total gear to the ground but somy new job I was going to this
(20:47):
guy I had to do like I had to goto the doctor to clear all my
insurance and shit. Andessentially, professional Indian
man would never say a bad thing.
As he's reading the stuff. Josh,how long have you been on this
shit? Nearly right there. I'mlike, Alright, I gotta get off
this just figure out a way toland. And ever since then,
(21:09):
that's when I got the, the sparkfor business, podcasting. And
really, I like really lovetrading. And that's when I
realized this is what I canhold. This is what I can say is
my now. Nice,
clay (21:23):
man, that's awesome. So like, Yeah, when, when after I
gotten clean, and I really justfiguring out everything out. And
just like, even just like noteven one day at a time, one hour
at a time, you know, the marketswere something that I could
connect into. And still youknow, a lot of times and still
(21:47):
be a part of you don't have toactively be trading but it's
something that I could reallyengage my mind on and try to get
better at. And that wassomething positive, you know,
rather than just man I'm justtrying to white knuckle it out,
try to get some time withoutdope under my belt, and I'm just
gonna watch Netflix all day. Youknow, I've never really been
(22:09):
like that anyway. Sometimes butreally, you know, is it it's a
it's a positive thing you tolearn. It's like having
something that like No, I'llI'll preface that by it's not
the best idea to just like be abeginner and be like, Alright,
(22:31):
let's do this. Let me just putsome money in here and see what
happens which I'm sure you'vehad that experience too.
Josh Bolton (22:37):
I have I've done it myself. I look like luckily I
learned quickly so but I've knowpeople who've lost 1000s and I'm
just like, I just sit theresaying I didn't say anything but
I'm like guys wait, did you evenlook at the chart and know what
that means? They're like no,it's green is good. I'm like
it's a basic head and shoulderpattern. And like what's that
(22:58):
I'm like, depending on thedirection it means is going up
or it's going to crash hard onyou.
clay (23:05):
Right right. Yeah. Okay, so it sounds like you have some
pretty pretty decentunderstanding what's going on
there man so that's that's allso like yeah, you know, I mean,
it was so you still tradingactively?
Josh Bolton (23:17):
actively? Yeah, I actually just bought up some
stuff on my Roth because I hadan extra $900 just sitting there
everything was everything was onsale so Mike, I'm just gonna
take this till I can.
clay (23:27):
Okay, what was it like kryptos or FX
Josh Bolton (23:30):
I don't like crypto. Like I told one of my
whole crew at night when I workwith they're all they were all
into bitcoin. I'm like bitcoinsa great trading tool, but it's
not a good investment tool. Andthey're like oh, so now they'll
buy it and I've shown them thebasics like you want to buy here
(23:51):
sell here. If you really want tobe fancy you can short it but
the crypto market is gonna costyou more than it's worth but
clay (23:58):
right well i mean maybe you know it could go like
tomorrow wake up it's at like120,000 So yeah, it's so thing
with it so yeah, yeah,definitely you should get into
my group and and start being apart of what it is that we got
going on. I don't know. If youlooked
Josh Bolton (24:16):
before Yeah, I was struggling to ask you what the
telegram was because I have atelegram. I just don't really
use it.
clay (24:21):
Okay, yeah, yeah, so rownum forex, you can go to my
my Instagram and in the linktree you will get access to the
free telegram and all that goodstuff and so but yeah, you know
and and but it gave me somethingthat actually to have some hope
and to because oh, yeah, I waswell, I was living in a halfway
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house. Right and so you know,that basically means like, you
have to report and take drugtests like you're standing there
with like 16 other dudes and itwas like, you know, in Ghana the
ghetto so it was like, not thebest situation by I really tried
to make the best of it because Iwould I would leave at like 5am
go to the gym fine take take acomputer with me and then like
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post up somewhere and learntrade like you know well yeah
just really learn about thewhole situation that basically
got a job at because that's youknow being in the halfway house
you have to report with a joband all that stuff and so
there's a dude those in recoverythat did only like the
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landscaping was likeconstruction landscaping, where
they put in irrigation lines. Ohyeah, I started doing that. And
I was like, super hard as work,especially in the summer your
Nashville gets really really
Josh Bolton (25:47):
hot. I would assume that's like here in California.
Yeah, Kelly's
clay (25:52):
Kelly's way more dry. I used to live in South Lake Tahoe
I lived in in in northern somedifferent parts of northern
California for a little bit backwhen I was more roaming when I
was in roping mode but uh yeahyou know so I was like man I got
it like if I zero in on this Ican really make something out of
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this I could learn this skillnobody can take it away from me
once I know it and you know it'sbeen just a uphill journey ever
since then with you know higherhighs and higher lows definitely
some some lows do but so youknow but it was something
positive that I could be likeyou know, really it gave me a
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lot of hope. And at the time Ihad not at the time I had none I
was just trying to you know, geton my feet again and so that's
where a lot of yoga came inmeditation and you know really
just trying to connect on adeeper way my own way and that
(26:56):
really so I had the the healthside which you know gym
dedicated myself that I didn'thave a driver's license so dude
I would walk like you know 10miles a day it was nuts Oh shit.
Yeah, but I was like you know Iwas sober for once in my life so
I just put some tunes on andlisten like you know I think at
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the time I was like as I go intokicks with music I was like in
it just a classic 90salternative music and you just
give me I don't man I'm justfeeling good happy grateful
really practicing gratitudewalking everywhere it's just a
whole new experience because Iwasn't you know in a fog from
(27:40):
Xanax and so yeah so walkinggoing to the gym at some I that
my health was coming back myfitness I didn't like know as
much about diet and differentdiets that you can do and but
you know I've learned a lotabout that actually my first
(28:01):
business was a juice bar here inNashville yeah and so but we've
always been entrepreneurs andbut like so I was learning about
different different ways ofhealth getting my diet dialed in
and I would the guys at thehalfway house we would you know
give me shit because I'd comethere and they're all eating
(28:21):
pizzas and like drinking RedBulls and I quit smoking Not
long after after that and so Iwas like really just I'm doing
this and you know some of thoseguys are dead now not you know
but like that's just the natureof avoid it was
Josh Bolton (28:44):
so much processed food and your body just doesn't
know what to do with it andeventually does catch up
clay (28:50):
well i mean they relapsed and you know you know died using
using heroin and stuff cool soyeah cheap
Josh Bolton (29:00):
drug either.
clay (29:01):
What's that
Josh Bolton (29:02):
apparently is not cheap drug either. Is it? Just
like I don't know I never did it
clay (29:07):
Yeah, yeah. Well you know the cost of it is and what it
will do to your life and thefamily and people around you as
you know, you can't even put aprice tag on so you know, but
no, it's it is becomingincreasingly cheaper and cheaper
the more fentanyl comes into thecountry and you know, more
(29:30):
people are dying and dying andthat's that that's a real
epidemic. And people are youknow, I think it's been like so
far this year 60,000 I'm notsure I looked at numbers not too
long ago so the number butoverdoses and stuff and that's
like so serious man, but yeah,and so, but I would come back
(29:55):
I'd make make a smoothie andthey're all eating pizzas and
stuff and they would all like,make fun of me. Right there like
this one dude who later becameEric who later became my
roommate and who is one of theguys that passed away from an
overdose in Denver. But hecalled me green guy because I'd
make these greens greensmoothies like Hey, what are you
(30:16):
doing green guy? And is thissomething that we joked about
man he's a good he's a gooddude. But like that's kind of
what I'm meant by like you knowyou got to just really tap in to
what you feel like because yourconscience is telling you what's
right what's wrong Hey, youshould be doing this you
shouldn't be eating that. Ofcourse the more you drown that
(30:37):
out the more you drown it outthat voice becomes like you know
where you can barely even hearif not hear it at all but the
more you try to tap in and starttaking that right which is
typically the harder path thenthe louder it gets and the more
connected you are and then themore able you are to tap into
that and so I was really justlike following this inner
guidance system of you know myconscience and higher power and
(31:01):
just like because I've been soDeaf to it for a long time and
it was really as just gettingsuper tapped in and so so yeah
you know I was just like no i'mi'm sticking to this doing this
for me that's not what I saidyou know I just like yeah green
guy I'm just trying to lose acouple pounds for the ladies and
(31:24):
that you know, but really,really I was like dude, I can't
live like this and here was 16dudes that just just fucking
slobs and this is unacceptablefor me it's acceptable for my
life my you know family deservesbetter and I can do better and I
can be really hard on myself manbut it's you know now I've
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learned to do it in a moreloving way and stuff but yeah so
and just stay in tact and ofcourse that was a that was nine
years ago but like that it was ait was a long road for sure but
in that I really flipped intolike okay fitness health I'm
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walking I'm going to the gym Idon't even know how to do these
workouts so I was like readingon the internet watching YouTube
videos getting my dot get mydiet dialed in same deal YouTube
videos reading on the internetfollowing other people and then
then started learning about youknow, spirituality yoga. I tried
to connect with different youknow teachers and stuff and
(32:33):
that's still been a journey forme up to an ounce that still
every single day and and thenalso and then after I got those
things dialed in fitness, mentalhealth diet spiritual health the
spiritual health starts to openup it doesn't even matter if you
don't believe in anything youknow you become more tapped in
(32:54):
and you know, it doesn't matterif you're an atheist or what
that's undeniable you know youget your your house Yeah, you
get your body back you're moreenergetic you feel tapped in you
have more appreciation andgratitude for life. And you
know, that's you know, there'ssomething much deeper going on
there in my opinion, but youknow, first you got to you can't
(33:16):
go learn to walk before you canrun. And so that starts with
like, removing the Red Bullsremoving the you know, that
fried chicken, which Hey, I'mfrom Kentucky, dude, I love
fried chicken.
Josh Bolton (33:31):
The real freaking train chickens there. Oh,
clay (33:33):
my dad makes legit fried chicken man. And we're in the
summer of fried chicken andtomatoes from the garden and
it's a peach cobbler. Fordessert. It's
Josh Bolton (33:46):
a country asked me to say that that's a southern
meal. Don't be counting yourcalories or carbs. And that one?
Yeah, yeah, no, no,
clay (33:51):
I'm not that dumb. If I go to mom's house, Mom and Dad's
I'm not counting calories. Andso I'm just grateful to be
there. That right? But uh, yeah,and so, but you got it, you got
to learn to walk before you run.
And then eventually all thatstuff started to kind of fall in
place with with a lot of efforton my part. And then then I was
like, you know, we can do aconstruction I found some
(34:14):
different entrepreneurs that Isee my brother, he's my business
partner. I'd like my He's mybest friend too. I'm super
grateful for him. And you know,he's like, Hey, you should check
out this guy, then you'll likethem and introduce me to TEDx
rule by Grant Cardone, and whichis an amazing book, and I love
(34:37):
the auto audio book. I was like,Man, this dude is crazy. And it
just like sparked something. Meis like, Man, you know, I can
actually create something what'sstopping me the only thing
that's stopping me from actuallylike doing something making it
happen on my own learning how totrade, learning about being An
(34:58):
entrepreneur is me, only personstopping me as business owners
that's going to talk me out ofit is me. And the only person
that's going to stop me fromtrying, is me. And usually how
that looks is like, you know,with some sort of, I have
something I want to do in somesort of self destructive
behavior that gets in the way,you know, it was it was
(35:20):
drinking, it was drinking, itwas using drugs as popping
pills. It could be, it could beanything man eating,
pornography, all that stuff wehave, you know, scrolling
through.
Josh Bolton (35:35):
Scrolling is bad now that I, it's sad to say porn
is not as effective as Instagramor Tiktok anymore.
clay (35:43):
Well, yeah, I mean, once you become numb to it, sure. You
know, like, it's, it's like, Idon't mean that as like, right?
You know, we're, likedesensitized to that, like, you
know, if you showed, like ourgrandparents that they would be
like, What the fuck are you guyslooking at is what is this sin
of? Whatever? Well, yeah, forsure. And but you know, what's
(36:04):
sad about that, as we becomedesensitized to it
systematically, in my, myopinion, there's a reason why
that, you know, churches had toclose, but like, you know, that
stuff still on the internet,right? I mean, I'm not for
censorship at all. But it'slike, what people are drawn to?
And what's been what's promoted.
Right? So, yeah, it's crazy.
(36:27):
We're just desensitized thatnow, you know, it's scrolling.
It's designed to keep us keep uslocked in whether scrolling,
whether we're swiping, whether,you know, whatever it is, yeah,
whatever it is, and it'sdesigned to keep us more locked
in, and, you know, more or lessenslaved to what's going on,
(36:48):
and, you know, to the, to our tojust to bring it back to our
identifications, because mostpeople that are scrolling, or
scrolling things based on theirown political beliefs, or you
know, what they're interestedin. And so they just get trapped
in an echo chamber, you need me,you know, me as well, and, you
(37:10):
know, so it's like, they justreinforce things that they
already are, like, you know,more or less conditioned to
believe, is what they believein, you know, because 100%,
because they've been seeingthings over and over and over
again. And, but slowly, thosethings become more extreme, more
extreme, whether you're on theright and left, and, you know,
next thing you like, next thing,you know, it's like, Dude, this,
(37:34):
it's insane. What's, you know,it's crazy. And that's kind of
gets back to, you know, usbeing, we really need to meet,
meet in the middle, as a societyand be like, you know, figure
out what's important to us. Andreally, it's, for most people,
family, you know, health andbeing able to create a future
for yourself. And, you know, Idon't care what anybody says,
(37:55):
nobody wants to pay more taxes.
So no, yeah, so But the thingis, it all gets back to what
we're identified with the lessthe less that we can identify
ourselves with stuff. And I'mjust talking from my own
experience, the less the morethat I've come from a place of
like, I don't know, I don'tknow. I don't know, do I really
(38:16):
know what's going on? I'm justtrying to make it through the
day, trying to become the be thebest version of myself? Do I
really have an opinion on what'shappening? And, you know, like,
Hong Kong, or Pakistan orwhatever, you know, of course I
do. I just throw in randomplaces out there. But you know,
Josh Bolton (38:36):
two big things happened, though, was that two
big things did happen to those
clay (38:42):
Hong Kong and Pakistan.
You said Afghanistan, though.
Oh, yeah. Afghanistan, for sure.
Yeah, that was that was that wasterrible. Tragic. Yeah, we just
straight armed the Taliban andmade them one of the most
powerful militaries and that inthe world. What? Yeah, and not
to mention just leaving tons ofAmericans behind but yeah, I
mean, so like, but ouridentifications man, you know,
(39:03):
like, the more we can becomeless identified with things
outside of ourselves and moreidentified with ourselves, then
we can actually get clear onwhat it is that we want, you
know, if we want to, you know,take trading to the next level,
I can help you do, by the way,then, getting clear on that.
What's going to help you getclear is by pushing out all the
(39:25):
distractions, the scrolling thedevices, and really being like,
man, I owe it to myself, and atthe end of the day, I know it's
gonna dark. I talked about thismore and more, because I think
about it more and more, but, youknow, the clock is ticking on
our lifespan every single day.
(39:46):
You know, people can be like,yeah, you know, it is but it's
like, No, you might not be heretomorrow, one of these days,
like one of these days is goingto be the last day whether you
know it or not either driving onthe road, maybe you're 60 maybe
you do it and you asleep but youknow this there's a we have a
finite amount of time here andpeople don't realize that the
(40:06):
clock's ticking clock isstraight up taken to like how
much time are you going todevote to other things outside
of yourself like what what dressdid they wear at the Met Gala?
Those people don't care aboutabout us so like you know let's
not care about that and let'sstart caring about ourselves and
start caring about our familieslet's start caring about our
(40:27):
lives and our futures and howwe're going to get there is like
what we need to figure out forourselves and you know what, the
way we do that is by gettingdialed in right get to piggyback
get dialed in on our healthfitness I mean like you know,
(40:48):
God the Creator gave us the bodyand you know it's a blessing to
have and taking care of itreally just making an effort to
do that is you know, we we oweit we have a more or less
obligation to do that. And sobuddy is like maybe we need to
go outside the dog frame foranybody that's listening to this
(41:09):
video but yeah, so I'm gettingdialed in on those things
because like what else are wegonna do with their lives and
the thing is is like our purposehere is to become the best
version of ourselves so we canshare that with somebody else
who needs who needs that thathelp and direction in their life
because everybody has everybodyhas a story to tell you don't
(41:32):
have to you don't have to been ajunkie like me where I was
whereas like man you know myfamily didn't even want me to go
home because they didn't wantlike you know they could see me
like that so I had nowhere to gopretty much homeless you know,
but you that was like thecriteria that was given to me to
(41:54):
work with everybody has theirown criteria whether you know,
whatever it is, you know,whether they don't have legs or
were born you know, whatever itis, but like the creator gives
us the criteria in order tobecome the best version of
ourselves and by doing but likejust to take it back to the
(42:16):
scrolling only thing that'sgonna do is just take us away
from ourselves and people aren'tmaking money off that because
you know you're looking at adspeople are you know, they're
they're data mining you'rescrolling habits so not only are
you buying products but you'realso your mental habits are
(42:40):
being mined and sold it's thesame
Josh Bolton (42:43):
Oh it is and this funny like right now I actually
just reinstalled Instagram justto add you to get your link tree
and then I re installed it. DidYeah, yeah. I that was the
biggest one for me. Likeespecially during the heated
lockdowns there was not muchgoing on so I was on Instagram
tik tok and I was playing videogames because where I was we
were super hardcore. Youcouldn't even go to like my own
(43:05):
work without like the militarysomehow showing up but uh yeah
and at a certain point as todoing this is when I got that
pivot point cuz I remember themarch crash and like why were
some people dancing in thestreet like is the best thing
sunset summer crying like it isworse than Beelzebub kind of
thing. And that's when I startedstudying I actually just cut
(43:26):
everything off I was just likeNo, I will not be distracted I
will focus on this. I don't knowit yet but I'll figure it out
and like you this is a skill nomatter what it will always pay
me I don't need people like methey will pay me no matter what.
clay (43:40):
Right yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, at the end of the day,
you know, it's turned off thesocial like all the social
networking and stuff and alsothe TV and all that and then
just like went outside of Tamit's a nice beautiful day right?
You know, and like life keepsgoing on and life keeps
(44:01):
happening we're just in thisworld of more or less illusion
on a lot of different levels.
But like it especially with theit's it's it's a trap, but at
least the fastest way to freedomis realizing that it's it's a
trap and you know, to witnesswhat's going on from an outside
perspective. And but then alsobeing a part of it and you know,
(44:28):
getting getting dialed in onwhat Josh wants getting dialed
in on what clay wants gettingdialed in, and what clay does
every single day. You know howto pack as much as many things
and I'm just it's a it's a workin progress and still just
getting better at it. But youknow, I don't have downtime. And
that's a good thing, right?
Josh Bolton (44:50):
That is good. Other than sleeping, but that's
productive either way.
clay (44:54):
Yeah, but that's like five hours. Oh,
Josh Bolton (44:57):
yeah, you know, that's not healthy. Then.
clay (45:00):
I mean, yeah, I mean, five to six, all I really need, like
the yoga that I do withoutgetting into too much detail are
called Korea's and they reallycharge up the energy system and
the bodies go. I mean, yeah, sixhours is good. Six hours is good
set, you know, seven, but Ican't do more than that anyways
(45:22):
even if I wanted to. So like,you know I your mind's always
racing? no no, no no not at allnot not really I mean sometimes
but like, I know my body when isjust my I guess the circadian
rhythm, you'd say once, onceit's five o'clock, man, I'm up,
you know, I can lay lay in bed.
But now I'm just like, you get.
(45:46):
So you get up and and it's muchbetter. It's like quiet, a lot
more quiet in the morning,
Josh Bolton (45:53):
I get so much done in the morning. It's insane. So
actually, you mentioned earlier,and I've been trying to find a
point to insert it. But I neverjust gonna do it. You mentioned
earlier there are firms that arewilling to essentially train you
and give you free money. Well,not free, you got to make them
money to us. What are some ofthe places like let's say, I
just want to apply? I know, it'sprobably commission based,
(46:14):
whatever you make that you justtake a percentage, right?
clay (46:17):
Right. Yeah, yeah. So this is what my my group is the
financial side of it, and thetrading aspect of it. And what I
do is I created a program thatwalks people through the exact
same process that I did, inorder to get funded with outside
capital to trade with by thesefirms. And there's some, there's
(46:37):
some good ones out there that weuse, and here's some, there's
some bad ones, right. So youkind of need to know, it's
helpful to know which is which.
But, you know, and you'll seethat when you log into some of
my stuff on Igy, what I talkedabout on telegram, some of the
bigger ones are ft. Mo, if youdid want to look it up there,
there's a few differentcompanies. And what I do is I
(46:59):
teach people exactly the processthat I do, and have done in
order to get funded, the waythat works is, you know, they're
not like, new, Josh is crushingit, let's send them $100,000 You
know, it, because like Joshcould disappear, right? So what
they do, is, but that's wherethe funding starts, you can you
(47:22):
can apply for less, but what I,you know, the guys that I met,
and girls, that I mentor, Iencourage them to do whatever's
within their range, but startout and test for 100 100k
because With 100k, you canactually make a significant
impact on your life, you know,so yeah, if you're, if you're
(47:43):
trading and you're putting in,you're working all day, or all
week, and I was in this cyclefor a long time, where I, when I
was figuring out how to do this,and figured out by losing my own
money, and like, you know, Iwould work all week, then
deposit it, and, you know, havesome success and then lose it.
(48:05):
But the reality is, is I put in,like, $1,000 1500 500 even if it
even if it was 10k we'll justuse that as an example. Right?
If you did 10% of that in amonth, which is a massive, which
is great. You know, that's$1,000 you can't do much on
(48:26):
$1,000 these days, monthly, youcan't live off that, that's for
sure. And so, like, in reality,having access to 100k that will
impact your life for sure. So,you know, 100k then 10% of that
is $10,000 and typically withthese funds, you get to keep
(48:50):
depending on which 170 to 80% ofyour profits.
Josh Bolton (48:56):
Oh, that's nice.
There was one I was I wasapplying for and there was
essentially they gave you a 50kaccount and but they're like
it's a 2070 no 2575 split, youget 25 or whatever you make, we
get 75 and I'm like, well thenwhy am I even trying can say at
least 5050 I get it like I haveany reason to you get to $10,000
(49:17):
so I can get my 5k kind ofthing.
clay (49:22):
Right, right, for sure. So and you know if it was if it was
10 then that would mean you'ddone 20% that month that might
and so that would have been thatwould have been huge and you
know, pretty hard to do. Soyeah, a
Josh Bolton (49:38):
lot of risk if you if you're not. If you don't know
the technicals that's a lot ofrisk.
clay (49:43):
Yeah, yeah. and risk management is the key so and
that's what my group is allabout risk management
psychology. Usually the peoplethat come into my higher level
coaching group are about likeyou know, your experience level
where they know technicals andhave some success know what
they're doing. But really atthat point, it becomes a matter
of trade psychology, right? Sothe trade psychology, the nine,
(50:07):
just trick personal psychologyreally. And how to get that
dialed in is really what we doand build that belief system
that, hey, this, this ispossible, you know, on the front
end that you know, it doesn'thappen overnight, you have to
have like, you know, livetrading calls we do Tuesday,
Wednesdays and Thursday morningfor New York trading session,
(50:28):
okay, it's definitely helpfulfor for people to be on those,
they can trade alongside me andthe other people that are either
going through the testing phasehave already been funded, or you
know, figuring out theirstrategy in the early stages of
my program. But yeah, and youknow, typically, depending on
(50:49):
the firm 70 or 80 to 80% of theprofits, you get to keep and the
way it works is you actually getlogin credentials, I know you
probably already aware of it,but you know, for anybody
listening when you take achallenge, which is a test and
typically you have to hitanywhere between eight to 10%
(51:09):
target within within 30 days, 30a month, so like 25 trading days
for and so you have to hit inbetween a 10% target 10% max
loss, it's on a demo account,it's just a trial tab, or 5%
drawdown daily loss and so thoseare you have to stay and trade
(51:32):
within those parameters and tryto hit this 10% target and once
you do hit that if you getfunded or when you do then you
know those rules are still inplace, you still have to you
know adhere to those riskmanagement parameters. But you
know, I teach all about thatprogram, the best way to do that
different software you can useas well like to help you manage
(51:54):
your trades, which is superhelpful. And
Josh Bolton (51:57):
just curious, what kind of software do you
recommend?
clay (52:02):
So for like, what I was referring to as a Trade Manager,
okay, so like, you know, youplay you can enter in how much
how much what percentage youwant to risk, you know, where,
you know, when it will move yourstop loss to entry, at what, you
know, field take partial profitsalong the way. And, you know,
that way, it's an EAessentially, that will you know,
(52:25):
help to manage your risk thatway so, you know, you don't have
to be glued to your phone or,or, you know, trading platform.
So there's a bunch of math outthere I use one you know, you
can mess message me on telegramnow I can send it to you.
Josh Bolton (52:41):
Because I bought into tracking trade for Gecko
software. Okay. It's truly whatthe like the hedge fund managers
use. And I wait my, what's itcalled? track in trade?
clay (52:55):
Okay, so again, software is it like a journaling software
so attracts your,
Josh Bolton (53:01):
what you're doing everything. It has live charts,
it has a journal option, butmainly it's user interfaces Do
you want here it shows you allthe technicals I can literally
press a button it will give mean instantly it's the futures
markets what I'm doing with it.
Okay, and you can instantly getme out to Okay, and there's just
no paid derivative thing inbetween I am strictly I have
(53:25):
full fee to the market. Theyhave forex and they have stocks
to
clay (53:31):
Nice Nice. Yeah, I mean, because there's that execution
time which you know, like thatcould be the difference between
a winning winner and a loser youknow, so yeah, that sounds cool,
man. Yeah, for sure.
Josh Bolton (53:46):
And it's just that's the one I picked up and I
worked it out with the guy Ipaid whatever extra and he gave
me essentially like two monthsfree. So it was just one of
those I'm like, Okay, now I haveone year i'm i've been paying
for trading. And then like mylittle dinky t me TD Ameritrade
account. I actually trade withreal money. But now that's where
(54:07):
I've gotten the point. I'm like,Okay, my only hiccup is money.
Right now.
clay (54:11):
Have you looked into the Coinbase stock? It's okay. Yeah,
I think that would be I thinkit's gonna be the next like,
Tesla.
Josh Bolton (54:22):
Oh, absolutely.
It's just the thing like I telleveryone I'm like right now
Winston, when are you able topay IRS with Bitcoin? When we
get to that point where likeAmazon's taking USD coin Oh,
done by as much as you can kindof thing.
clay (54:39):
Right? Yeah, yeah. But uh, so yeah, man. I mean, that's how
the that's how the fundingworks. You know, it's, we have
guys getting anger and girls Ikeep sad to say that's like a
habit, but people are gettingfunded nearly every day in our
group. And you know, it's juststarting at 100k. And there's
multiple different firms outthere and that's Basically the
(55:00):
starting point, but you know,you can do it to a test for
200k. Or depending on the firm.
And what what we do and I showpeople how to do is how to, you
know, be get funded by one fortest on another one and then
link them up to copiers to tradecopiers. So then you could just
trade one account, but it's alsoon a different platform. trading
(55:23):
with another, another firm,right? So you can accumulate
quite a decent amount ofcapital. Oh, yeah. doing that.
So but it's it like I said, youknow, one thing about me, I'm,
I'm straight up forward abouteverything that's going on and
(55:44):
like, you know, like, I'll neverbe like, yeah, you'll be funded
by, you know, tomorrow and thendriving a Lambo by the end of
the week. It doesn't work likethat. No, it does. It doesn't
but you know, if you're, ifyou're dedicated, just like
anything, you know, if you'rededicated to selling coffee mugs
on Amazon, give yourself abouttwo years, you could be like,
the coffee mug person. You couldbe the coffee mug dude, for
(56:08):
sure. Yeah. But like most peoplethrow in the towel on most
things within three to four myexperience, three to six weeks.
So yeah, it's
Josh Bolton (56:19):
like I don't have my Lambo by the end of the
month. What the fuck, this isstupid. Right? Right, right?
clay (56:24):
How long have you been trading?
Josh Bolton (56:25):
trading since January? I've been studying for
another year. So like March iswhen it all started. So like a
year and a half I've beenstudying the last nine months
I've been actually likeexecuting trades.
clay (56:40):
So like the lock downs and stuff happen. And you're like,
Okay, well, looks like this. Icould take advantage of this and
learn something. Oh, yeah.
Josh Bolton (56:48):
And it's great. The the place where I work, they
don't mind if we listen to likemusic or audio books in our ear.
It's like, you gotta have oneheadphone, obviously. So we if
there's a fire, we gotta yell atyou fire so you can get out. But
yeah, I've been just listeningto books, Donte Alo investor.
Thinking Grow Rich, there wasone, there's
clay (57:12):
a great book for traders trading in the zone.
Josh Bolton (57:15):
Yeah, I think it was I bought the audio book,
trading for a living. And it'sexactly what you're saying,
you're gonna have your riskparameters is almost gonna be no
emotion involved, you're juststaring and be like, he's like,
he says, in a more gruesomemanner. He's like, there could
be blood flowing everywhere.
Don't touch it. It is, it is ait looks good. The moment you're
(57:38):
gonna buy it, it's going to gosouth on you. He's like, just
sit and wait, if you have towait a couple months, just do
it.
clay (57:47):
I mean, that's true. For sure. So if it doesn't fit the
trading plan,
Josh Bolton (57:54):
and that's the biggest one, he's like, figure
out your risk, what you'rewilling to do. get cold with it,
because he's like, you're goingto have to make pull trades that
you that are lucrative, butbecause of whatever rule, you
have to get rid of it. And hejust, he's like, just learn to
have no emotions for thattimeframe. Be in your zone,
done. Once he's done. He's like,then go have fun, do whatever
(58:15):
you need to do.
clay (58:17):
That's good advice. For sure. So yeah, you know, it's
it's every day, I think, for me,it's just learning every single
day, being able to connect withother traders still always, you
know, just leveling up in somany different ways from, it's
(58:37):
super important for people torecognize where they are, or
where they were, when theystarted. what it was like trying
to figure it out, and reallystart to get dialed in on
actually even having some arealistic point of view of like,
where I'm at now. And you know,most people, including me, and
you are like, well, I thoughtit'd be further along by now.
(59:00):
But I'm a hell of a lot betterthan where I was, right? And so
that that's a good way to reallyjust even start to be realistic
in order to practice gratitude.
And then to and then to beconscience conscious of where to
push forward into the nextphase. So
Josh Bolton (59:21):
now and that's the biggest one, like, I've come to
realize it's like, yes, you canhave these lofty goals but be
realistic set smaller steps. Soyou can you can achieve it on
your way all the way up to thetop.
clay (59:33):
Yeah, for sure. I call those targets, having like just
targets daily targets that we doevery day. But then having those
like, you know, it's pie in thesky. Massive goals that seem
seem unrealistic, but, you know,you have to be able to thank
them first for them then to bepossible. So
Josh Bolton (59:54):
I'm just curious, how long do I got you for?
Because it's already about anhour. Yeah,
clay (59:58):
that's it. Thought it I have a call coming up next
Josh Bolton (01:00:04):
oh wait then was just quick last question to
actually because we know whereto contact you multiple times is
someone aspiring to be like youwhat are some tips tricks or
advice give them if somebody waswhat what was the question if
someone is aspiring to be likeyour successful trader or yoga
person
clay (01:00:23):
yeah you know first take out a take out a piece of paper
and write down like what isactually important to me what
you know, what do I representnow and what would I like to
represent and then you knowgoing into massive action
basically the same way I hadsaid about you know 20 minutes
(01:00:47):
ago It starts with on thephysical area just like just you
know, just go all in on yourphysical health and like to
exhaustion to where you're likereally, especially if you're
you've been stagnant for a longtime, which most people have
been that's going to reallystart to shift the energy in the
(01:01:07):
body to then be like doing thatover and over it's just going to
create more positive thoughtsyou see the results faster like
you know in the mirror, you'refeeling better you're you're not
as like lethargic all day andyou know, then you'll start to
get some mental clarity and sobut it all starts with writing
it down. And then like followingthrough and taking the steps to
(01:01:31):
get there which are physicalhealth in terms of diet, mental
spiritual, and then and thenreally starting to get dialed in
on the financial and investingand educating ourselves self
education and that term isbecause nobody's going to teach
it to you unless unless you andI will I will for sure that's
(01:01:53):
where you know, somebody couldjoin my team or whatever but you
know, it's not it's not going tobe like the matrix and it's not
going to get downloaded into youmore likely and you know,
they're not going to teach it onABC nightly news are four and
there's too many
Josh Bolton (01:02:12):
there's too many hedge funds involved then
they're gonna be like, nope,we're not going to film that.
clay (01:02:17):
Yeah, no, it's just controlling people with in the
way that think anyways, yeah,
Josh Bolton (01:02:24):
the negative loop.
So then the other one is otherthan work What have you done to
keep yourself busy during theselockdown times? Uh,
clay (01:02:33):
yeah, you know, I mean, just not much, Shea not much
changed. Really, you know, I wasin Tennessee, it wasn't that
bad. office, I could still go toevery day. And you know, so that
that helped. For sure the gymwas closed for a while, so a lot
of just running on runningstreet workouts. And just since
(01:02:57):
all my stuff's online, you know,I just double down I had a rocky
point for sure. I got depressedI got you know, we
Josh Bolton (01:03:07):
all did at one point. It was unavoidable.
clay (01:03:11):
Yeah, big time. And then, you know, snapped out of that,
by the grace of God and justlike was like, dude, you got to
get it together man. And it wasactually a good a good
experience because it helped tojust just another you know,
before he any if you're in adepression or anxiety or using
or whatever it is, you have abreakthrough on the other side
(01:03:34):
of that you just have to, youknow, go through the pain of
look, turning inwards to getthere, and so on. But yeah, and
so then as I just kind of wokeup, I was like, man, and just
started looking at everything asan opportunity every single day
as an opportunity. Getting onthis call is an opportunity
going to the gym before it wasan opportunity, everything I
(01:03:54):
have going on at the rest of theday. Those are opportunities to
connect with people instead ofthe opposite, which and that's
true. That's the truth. What'snot true is that like, God, I
got it. Just make it through theday. Man, I don't want to see
this person, that person that'sjust all just fairytales it's
going on in the mind. And youknow, things that those are
(01:04:19):
attitudes, those are attitudesyou have about life, which
aren't which are false, butwhat's truth? What is the truth
and living in that truth iseveryday is an opportunity and
one day we're not gonna havethis opportunity. Right? That's
not exactly what I did in thelockdown, but I, you know,
somehow clarified it. Somehowthat shifted to and I realized
(01:04:43):
that and you know, it helps, ithelped me It helps me every
single day when I when Iremember that to live in just so
much more gratitude and you getinto that gratitude. And that's
just the key and the doorway.
For more just abundance andflow. filament in life. So you
know, it was just that thelockdown is all about
(01:05:03):
perspective, man.
Josh Bolton (01:05:07):
It really is.
That's the key I've noticed foreverything. And doesn't matter,
dude, appreciate you I don'twanna hold you too long for your
call.
clay (01:05:15):
Yeah, thanks a lot and messaged me on telegram and love
to love to have you in my groupand help you get funded better
and then you can do do anotherphone call after you got funded
that'd be pretty epic. So
Josh Bolton (01:05:27):
now it'd be frickin awesome. That would be cool. All
right.
clay (01:05:31):
Thank you. All right, brother. Thanks a lot. shoot me
a message and for everybodylistening. Ronan forex group is
my Instagram. Ronin 4x onYouTube, and thanks a lot for
having me, Josh.
Josh Bolton (01:05:42):
Absolute pleasure.
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