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December 17, 2025 • 42 mins

Today, Josh unleashes on the chaos unfolding at Brown University, where the hunt for a double-murder suspect has turned into a masterclass in incompetence. From university leadership to law enforcement, Josh breaks down how every level of authority seems to be bungling this case in real time. He then turns to the death of Rob Reiner and his wife—explaining exactly why he’s not joining the media’s sanctimonious pile-on over President Trump’s comments. Finally, he tackles Megyn Kelly’s latest remarks and explains why, once again, they reveal far more about her worldview than about the facts.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The world is still reeling from the horrific aftermath of
the mass slaughter at Bondai Beach in Sydney, Australia. But
the story that we're tracking closely right now, what the
heck is happening in Providence, Rhode Island at Brown University.
We do not have a suspect it has been apprehended
in the slaughter of Brown University students. Is there just
gross in confidence or potentially something a lot more nefarious

(00:22):
than that we were talking about that we'll be talking
about twenty twenty eight. We're talking about the horrific murder
of Rob Reiner and macan Kelly. Our not so friendly friend,
Megan Kelly is doubling down on stupidity yet again. All
that and much more in Sday's episode of The Josh
Amershall We welcome back everyone. I was in Washington, d C.

(00:45):
For the past a couple of days. I'll get to
that in just a minute. A couple of wonderful honka
parties there the nation's capital, at the Vice President's Naval
Observatory at his home on Monday evening and then at
the White House on Yesterday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
And while I was in DC, the talk of the town.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Like literally the talk on the street in a lot
of the gatherings that I was attending. Was this interview,
this eleven hour massive sit to and interview that White
House jew staff Susie Wiles did with Vanity Fair, all
sorts of opinions that are flying around. What was Susie
Wyles thinking is actually as bad as it looks? What
is going on here? We're gonna make it an editorial

(01:26):
decision today. We're actually not going to talk about that
for the very simple reason that there are more pressing stories,
for the very simple reason that there are more pressing
things that are happening that are affecting you, the listener
in the viewer, that are affecting me, and that are
affecting all of us. So if you, if you really want
the super duper inside Beltway Baseball Baseball, we will occasionally
cover that here on the show, but we try to

(01:46):
keep it at the level of the more practical things
that will affect your day day life and that will
affect all of our day to day lives as well.
So on that note again, this horrific massacre down in Sydney,
Australia over the Wee weekend, yet the latest instance of
radical Islamic terrorism. We have more examples than we can
possibly count it as. Yet another reminder is if you

(02:09):
needed more reminders, that you may have forgotten conveniently about
radical Islamic terrorism. Yes, it has been now over twenty
four years since September eleventh, two thousand and one. It
has been considerably longer since various other mass Islamic slaughters,
things like the bay Rout Barracks bombings committed by Iranian
sponsored has Bola actors back in nearly nineteen eighties there.

(02:29):
So you may have forgotten all about radical Islamic terrorism,
but radical Islamic terrorism has absolutely not forgotten about you.
And I was just seeing footage earlier today on TV
of the funeral that is being held in Siny, Australia,
that we've had the first funerals now for the thus
far fifteen who have been slaughtered. By the way, some
new details coming out of some of the stories of

(02:51):
some of the folks, not just who were slain, but
who are injured. But this is this one sort just
just really stuck with me. There's this couple of Russian
Jewish couple. They were there for the for the Hanukkah celebration.
They they try to storm one of the attackers and
try to tackle him, and unfortunately they were fatally wounded.
There just the just incredible valor and courage and amidst

(03:11):
the unspeakable heartbreak and the tragedy of moments like this,
of stories like this, the Bondai Beach, Sinney, Australia massacre,
the silver lining is that there is there are always
amazing stories of human beings who are doing amazing things
there and.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
That that that, above all is what I try to
think about.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
But certainly for those who were murdered very much, including
the rabbi there at the Hubbad of Bondai Beach who
had his funeral early earlier today, certainly indeed may their
memory not just be a blessing, but as we say
in Judaism, for the for the Jewish slain, may their
blood be avenged as well. But speaking of radicals Loamic terrorism,
the real thing that I am currently wondering, I think

(03:52):
a lot of folks are wondering right now, is is
there a massive cover up when it comes to radical
Islamic terrorism that's currently happening at a into American Ivy
League University campus. Now, these synings out there in the
audience might say, Oh, Josh, what are you doing. Oh
you're you're just asking questions. Josh, You're hardly any better
than the folks that you love to criticize. Tucker Carlson
canvas owens, I want to be want to be very

(04:13):
clear here about what I am saying and what I
am not saying. What we've been critical of, what we
will continue to be critical of is deliberate, deliberate brain rot.
Deliberate brain rot when it comes from people who have
a microphone, who look into a camera and talk as
I'm doing right now. What we are critical of is
quote unquote just asking questions when there are not legitimate

(04:35):
questions to be asked. So, for instance, when it comes
to the assassination of Charlie Kirk, there's plenty of legitimate
questions to talk about when it comes to the Utah
Valley University Campus Police Force. Indeed, the former head of
Charlie's own security detail how they sit down with Sean
Ryan recently and showed some very troubling test messages about

(04:56):
the lack of response of the Utah Value University Police Force.
It's properly securing the rooftop where Tyler Robinson was. But
that's very different asking questions about whether the campus police
adequately patrolled and secured the area, which they didn't seem
to do. That is very different than all the stupid
tinfoil had hyper conspiratorial garbage that you were hearing there

(05:18):
at about the French intelligence or is Israel and massade
or God forbid me? Or Erica Kirk or Andrew Colvit,
Mikey McCoy, various turning upon USA staffers, this stupid canvas
owens crap about the Egyptian planes, that's what we criticize.
There is no reason as of now what so freaking
ever to have any doubt as to whether or not

(05:40):
the man that they have arrested, Tyler Robbinson. It may
he be executed post tastes, assuming that he is found
guilty of the crimes which he seems to have clearly committed.
In my view, there is no reason of doubt whether
or not he committed the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
None. And if you were a.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Quote unquote just asking questions about that, that you are
trying to deceive your viewers and you are trying to
rob their brain. You're trying to make them lose touch
with reality. You're trying to make them lose any any
semblance of the discernments between right and wrong, truth and fiction,
facts and lies, the basic mortal, intellectual and logical discernments

(06:17):
that make us human in the first place. That is
what we are critical of is when people have a
platform and they are rotting your brains because they want
to do so for purposes of market share or market
capture because it better suits their hyper conspiratorialism. If your
brain just goes to mush and you try a bunch
of a bunch of brain cells, that's what we're critical of.

(06:38):
What we're not critical of is in a case like
Brown University where it's been days now, it's been four days,
and there's no suspect, no one who's been charged, and
there's a lot of suspicion.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, we're allowed to ask questions.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Then we're allowed to ask questions if they rest someone
and the evidence appear a face valued to look overhalling
like he did it. That's different or not there yet.
So I want to just clarify that distinction. So let's
talk a little bit about what is happening, or perhaps
more accurately, what is not happening at Brown University. So
we briefly cover this on Monday Show. So horrific, horrific

(07:16):
tragedy at Brown University's campus in Providence, Rhode Island. Over
the weekends, there was a review session for the final
exam of an economics course of what sounds to me
like an introductory economics course, probably primarily for freshman maybe
some sophomores, titled Principles of Economics. And you had at
least two students who were murdered during this shooting that

(07:40):
took place this in this academic hall in Providence, Rhode Islands,
at least nine others who were wounded, potentially potentially more
than that, And initially they did within the first twenty
four Thirstay's hours, they did arrest somewhat if memory serves,
his name was Benjamin Erickson, I believe from Wisconsin, but
mister Erickson has since been released, which which is kind

(08:02):
of similar to what happened the immediate aftermath of Charlie
assassination of your call, the local authorities and the FBI
initially brought in someone who was released, So this this
bears some similarity to that now, as we also mentioned
at least in passing in our show a couple of
days ago on Monday, one of the things that immediately
leapt off the page of me speaking of the horrific

(08:23):
rise nanty Semitism and left wing and Islamist violence frankly
against everyone, but perhaps above all against Jews and those
who sympathized with Jews, such as the saughder of the
Israeli embassy staffers in Washington, d C. Back in May,
and too many examples to account. One of the things
that leapt off the page for me when I was
reviewing the initial details of this horrific tragedy in Providenforode

(08:45):
Island was the fact that the that the teacher who
was not actually present at the final examiner whose session,
but the teacher is named Rachel friedburg which is about
is Jewish sounding a name as possible. Now, Rachel Freedburke
is not just a professor of economics at Brown, she's
also a faculty associate in the program for Judaic Studies

(09:07):
at Brown. So that's one of things that left off
the page to me. In eventually, another thing that you
can't help, but notice is that one of the two
slang students horrifically, horrifically is the former vice presidents of
College Republicans at Brown University, a beautiful young nineteen year
old girl. We're talking here about Brown University. This is

(09:30):
infamously one of the most liberal university campuses in America.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
You know, when I was in high school. When I
was in high.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
School, I actually did a three week sleep away program
at Brown University was one of the I think was
only second university campus I ever suffered the dorms of
I did a baseball camp at the US Military Academy
of West Points when I was a kid. So I
did this program at Brown, and even there, just for
refuse of the summer, you could a sentence as to
how rapidly left wing this campus is. I didn't even
apply for college essentially for that reason. Alone is infamously

(10:00):
left wing school. So the number of students, especially fast
forwarding from when I was there twenty years ago at
ever until now, the number of students who are proud
openly identifying conservatives, let alone being involved in College Republicans,
You're talking about a vanishingly few a vanishingly small percentage.
So I think a lot of folks are also not
unreasonably answering about the possible targeting of this tragically slain

(10:25):
young College Republicans vice president as well. Now, let's first
stipulate this. Let's first stipulate that it is embarrassing. It is,
if nothing else, embarrassing, and reeks of grossing competence, grossing competence.
That they don't have anyone currently arrested, that is, that
there is not anyone currently arrested, That there is not

(10:45):
anyone who is actually currently charged. It's frankly, just utterly outrageous. Now,
there are twelve hundred there's an estimated twelve hundred cameras
around Brown University campus. There was footage that I was
watching this morning of the person who was heavily suspected
to be the Leegis Shaater running about one minute after

(11:07):
the nine to one one call was placed give them.
This took place on the university campuses. Nine one one
is probably called within seconds of non minutes of the
actual shots being fired there. And you know, I mean, like,
what the heck is happening? I mean, like what the
actual heck is happening?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Here, and you know.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Reporters actually, for what it's worth, there are some local
reporters that are starting to get a little ANTSI shall
we say four days and then there's no one charge there.
So there are some reporters actually who are now calling
out local officials to their face about not having the
actual footage of the Round University shooter. Go ahead and
watch this.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
There was a major addition put on that building within
the last five years or so, that that is a
modern building attached to a much older one.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
In the back.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
So it doesn't come as a surpriice to me at
least that there are cameras in the newer part of
the building and there is video footage. Okay, so there's
the back part of the building, old part.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
In front part, new part.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
The shooting occurs in the old part towards the back
up towards Oak Street, and that older part of the building.
There are fewer, if any cameras in that location, I imagine
because it's.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
An older building, all right.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
So it's an older building. This barely passes the laugh test.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Again.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
There are twelve hundred cameras on Brown University's campus.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Twelve hundred. That's a lot of cameras.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
I don't need to be the one to tell you
that that is a lot of cameras to make this
considerably worse, and to start tying it into radical Islam,
which is becoming one of the most recurring late motifs
here of the Josh Hammer Show. This is where it
starts to get really, really suspicious. Brown University has been

(12:48):
involved in mass deleting a series of puff pieces of
celebratory articles on their website, Brown dot eedu or whatnot
that relates to a certain student, a foreign born student
by the name of Mustafa karbuch From pronouncing that correctly,
I don't particularly care him, not, to be honest with you,

(13:10):
this student is a foreign born national of Palestinian Arab descent.
He was noted for participating heavily in the Hamas and
kanmts after October seventh, and he wrote an article declaring
the need for a violence rebellion against both the Little
Sadan of Israel and the Great Satan of the United States.

(13:34):
Someone has also deleted this individual's ex account. Now again
it's not just his x though it's actually his. There's
articles of this guy at the Brown University website itself.
So I'm looking at the I'm looking right now at
this old web archive. Meet our student assistants, Mustafa Karboo's

(13:55):
class of twenty twenty seven, a first year of student
considering concentrating and international and publiciers. They were touting him,
and they were touting him because this guy was a
perfect intersectional mix. They were breaking the fact that that
he was a queer, a queer Palestine activist, a third
generation Palestinian refugee, which, by the way, is a load

(14:16):
of bs because they define quote unquote refugee there in
the land of Israel as being someone who was the
grandson or the great grandson, the great grandson of people
who lived there prior to nineteen forty eight. It's a
load of bs. The United Nations quite literally has two
separate definitions of what it means to be refugee, one

(14:36):
for the entire rest of the world, one for Arabs
who happened to live between the river and the sea
as it goes. But hold that aside from now. So,
this guy Carbooch is a quote unquote queer Palestine activist,
a third generation Palestinian quote unquote refugee who's actually raised
in Lebanon. He is a noted free Palestine and an
LGBTQ activist who has preferred pronouns. He has preferred pronouns

(14:59):
as well, So he's the kafia clad preferred pronoun free Palestine,
rainbow Jihad kind of guy. And wait, it actually gets
even more suspicious now that Brown is to lean this
guy's web pages, his his Twitter account has mysteriously disappeared.
It actually gets even more suspicious than that. The FBI

(15:19):
has indeed positively identified that the weapon that was used
here in the Brown University slaughter was a nine millimeter
fire a nine millimeter handgun last year. So internet sleuth
dug this up, and it's pretty good internet sleuthing. If
you go to a website called Wing Tactical, which is
a firearms accessory website, someone with the US name of

(15:42):
Mustafa k. Hmm sounds all familiar to Mustafa Carbooch.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
So on this website Wing Tactical, someone with the username
of Mustafa K gave a five star review to a
Breek Arms nine millimeter muzzle break. The same reviewer is
a verified purchaser, per the website's own records of this
muzzle break. Okay, I mean, that's now starting to get really,

(16:11):
really suspicious. So Brown University pulls down all the articles
this guy is a radical, radical leftist. His Twitter account
mysteriously disappears, and he also left it appears like he
left a review for a nine millimeter firearm accessory, where
we know per the FBI that actually was the weapon
of choice here. So at this point, is it's starting

(16:36):
your mind shot to start to race. Here are we
looking at a cover up?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Again?

Speaker 1 (16:40):
This is not Tucker Candice, just asking questions. This is
the value of that one of the most left wing
universities in the world, and they have a student who
is the personification, the embodiment of intersectionality of the left
wing mind virus that has been the dominant thing of

(17:01):
leftist campus activism for years now, and they're mysteriously vanishing
this guy, maybe just maybe because they're not willing to
confront the fact that this guy maybe did this. So
the president of Brown University, Chris Christina Packson, was actually
asked about this and didn't seem particularly forthright. Go ahead

(17:23):
and watch this.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
I believe some web pages for students or factor's been
taken down. Is that a response to any external press
at anyone in the community.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
We have been working very closely with law enforcement to
provide them with all of the internal to Brown information
that they need to do this investigation. It's their investigation.
They're the professionals, so we're providing information. We're not in
the job of reviewing it for them. I know nothing
about web pages being taken down as part of this.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
It's the first I've heard of it.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Very difficult to take that at face value, very difficult
to listen to what President Paxson is saying and to
actually believe that. Again, to the local reporters, to the
local Providence of Island Press Corps credit, they're starting to
get a little ANTSI now as they're starting to see,
by the way, the Attorney General of Rhode Island, to
add another pieces puzzle, the police chief looks wildly incompetent

(18:18):
there in Province Rhode Island. The president of Brown University
looks less than forthcoming, while Mustafa car Brooch's web pages
are being deleted, while his ex account is mysteriously disappearing,
and so forth. There the Attorney General of Rhode Island,
a member the name of Peter Narona, is not exactly
coming across particularly well here, either go ahead and watch
this final clip. So the video of a chody came

(18:39):
from inside the building, and that's all we have at
the moment now, and so we have at this moment, okay,
so it's from the occident.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Both inside and outside. I'm sorry, I'm just outside.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
That's what we have.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
That was actually the police chief there of Providence. But
they can't they can't even get their basic facts straights.
The police chief is literally told, as you just saw
there on live television, the police chief is told to
retract this statement that there's footage from inside the building
there Again, as I mentioned, the Attorney General of Rhode Island,
this guy in my name of Peter and Rona actually
ends up snapping at a reporter when he is asked

(19:16):
about the removal of this guy carbage profile.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
So he snaps.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
The president of university packs and we just saw is
being less and forthcoming. What a disaster, what an absolute disaster.
And if you ask me what's going on here, I
think I have to conclude, per Ockhams Raiser per the
general notion that the simplest explanation is more often than
not the most likely answer. That there looks like there
was probably a cover up happening here. I mean, this

(19:43):
is incompetence on top of obfuscation. It fits the narrative
just so perfectly. Again, I'm not gonna include anything. We're
not doing a canvas Owen's like an amateurish conspiratorial sleuthing exercise.
I'm just telling you what we know right now so
you can arrive at your conclusion. But it looks to
me that if I were to make a guess, frankly,

(20:06):
that Brown has evolved in some sort of mild cover up,
some sort of mild half assed cover up, because they
do not want the truth to get out, or at
least there are certain actors who are uncomfortable with the
truth getting out. How could it just be how can
it all be an accident where this guy's celebratory articles

(20:28):
disappear while he's leaving some five star review for the
nine millimeters five arm accessory. Really, I mean, it just
doesn't add up. It doesn't app I hope you get
answers and we will continue to track this story.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
But it's really really bad.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
By the way, speaking of horrific left wing radicals who
appear to be motivated by some variety of Islamist ideology.
Another thing that we haven't covered yet is that the
FBI and the DOJAY finally well not finally, but they
thankfully expose they thankfully and arrested for defendants for what

(21:03):
was set to be a series of orchestrated New Year's
Eve bombings. Now, these New Year's Eve bombings, by which
you had folks who were who are planning to to
to plant bombs and IED's improvised explosive devices.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
There.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
They're part of a group called the Turtle Island Liberation
from Now, maybe you're not super deep down the left
wing rabbit hole, and kudos to you if you are not,
because there was nothing good down there. Frankly, Turtle Island
is apparently, I can't say this with a straight face,
The Turtle Islands apparently. What these these intersectional idiots refer
to the continent of North America because the very word

(21:40):
America America is colonialists, because it's downstream of America Vespucci
and European settlers colonials. So they call this this massive
rock aka like the Americas, like the Western Hemisphere. They
call this rock that were on Turtle Islands. Okay, I
mean beyond stupid whatever. So this radical left wing anarchist
group called Turtle Island Liberation Front, which is far left,

(22:02):
anti governments, anti capitalism, pro communism, pro quote unquote Palestine
from the river to the sea, all this crowd, they're
preparing to conduct a series of bombings against multiple targets
in Los Angeles and potentially even New York City or
New Orleans on New Year's Eve. Pambodi is saying, this
is an incredible effort by our US Attorney's offices and
the FBI to ensure Americans can live in peace. So,

(22:25):
you know, pretty much matter where you slice him, it
seems like the religion and peace and the religion and
pieces adherents, acolytes and fellow travelers, including a lot of
the useful idiots who do not necessarily subscribe to Mohammedism's
tenets but are happy to put on the cathia, make
themselves useful idiots for a lot of the Islamist agiprop

(22:46):
They're causing damage. They are wreaking havoc and causing damage
from Bondai Beach to Australia down under to what God forbid,
what was to have been Los Angeles and quite possibly,
it seems at Brown University as well. When this country
will have a serious earnest reckoning with the toxic, horrific

(23:07):
overlap of Islamization and immigration. When that happens, I do
not know. There are very very powerful actors who do
not want that conversation to happen. They are very very
powerful actors, both in the open borders lobby and in
the radical Muslim lobby, care the Muslim brotherhood, tentacle organizations
and things like that. They don't want that conversation to happen.
In fact, they intend to prevent it at any cost,

(23:31):
by any means possible. But unless that happens, it's just
going to happen over and over and over and over again.
It's horrific, horrific stuff. And thankfully, in this particular, hey
he's the DJ in the FBI managed to bust this
New Year's Eve bomb plot prior to it happening. Unfortunately,

(23:52):
another terrible event that was not busted before it actually
happens was the slaying of Reiner and his partner, his wife,
Michelle Singer. So this does an absolutely awful story. So
this this happened we learned about in the wee hours
of the morning on Monday morning, apparently happened on Sunday,

(24:14):
And indeed we now know that as of today, Nick Reiner,
who is Rob Reiner's mentally disturbed son, is now appearing
in court today for the first time on two counts
of murder in the double homicide of Rob Reiner and
his wife. So he's thirty two years old and he's
appearing in court today for the very first time after
Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle were found slay apparently

(24:37):
their throats slit stabbed to death over the weekend, a horrific,
horrific story. Now, a lot of conservatives remember the name
Rob Reiner, and they know that he was a very
well known left wing activist, which he was, and no
one could ever deny that he was super involved in
all sorts of progressive social causes, the same sex marriage

(24:57):
fight out in California. He was a very involved both
publicly and behind the scenes in fundraising and bankrulling, disseminating
a lot of the Russia Gates propaganda that threatened to
engulf the entire first from presidency back in twenty sixteen
run and there he stood for a lot of very
very very bad things from a political level. Two other things, though,

(25:19):
that are relevant. One is the less important thing, which
is that he also was the director of some absolutely
fantastic films. A few good Men, I mean the Jack
Nicholson seeing There, Are you kidding me? I mean, that's
classic nineteen nineties film Americana, The Princess Bride, one of
the most beloved, beloved comedy is probably over the past

(25:40):
thirty to forty years in all of Hollywood, when Harry
met Sally, I mean kind of the quintessential rom com
and the romcom genre not my genre choice, but talk
about an all time classic in that particular genre.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
That's the less important thing about Robiner.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
The more important thing is this we, under no circumstances
should be celebrating the slaying of our innocent fellow Americans.
Now you can tell me that Rob Reiner what was
guilty of sowing the seeds of propaganda and of advocating
for a lot of terrible causes, and he was. He
was all of those things. But unless until you commit

(26:22):
a crime, and unless until you go through due process
and your appeals and you are found guilty of that crime,
there is nothing such as incarceration or for the worst,
the worst crimes, the death penalty that ought to happen
to you. So that's my basic take on Rob Reiner
is he made a lot of good films, He stood

(26:44):
for a lot of crappy causes. But under no circumstances
whatsoever should we be doing anything other than praying for
the Reiner family and wishing them nothing but comfort and
consolation in this extraordinarily horrific s that you in a
son murdering his parents.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
My God, just awful.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
On the other hand, I'm not gonna morally prene and
pretend to be over the top angry at Donald Trump's
now viral truth social post on this particular incidents. Either
based on what I just said, what Trump put in
this true social post where he was basically talking about
how horrible Rob Reiner was, That's not how I.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Would have personally put it.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
But I'm not going to get in my high horse
and say this was the worst thing in the history
of the world.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Either.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I wouldn't have done it. I think it's wrong. But
the number of people out there who don't previously have
an opinion on Donald Trump in are just now and
are just now talking about this and trying to condemn
him to morally preene get out of here. I know
one buys that for a second. There's no one out
there at this point who does not have an opinion

(27:52):
one way or the other about Donald J.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Trump.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Your mind is made up. I haven't had a pretty
favorable opinion of Donald J.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Trump.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I actually would just there in the White House yesterday
for what was a wonderful Hanka reception. I was there
in the afternoon, my wife and I flew off for
a quick overnight trip to Washington, d C. By the way,
before we go any further, I do want to show this.
Donald Trump spoke beautifully about his prepared and his unscript
remarks at this gathering. Here, So here was Donald Trump
talking about the Bondai Beach, Australia massacre and talking very

(28:23):
clearly and soberly about radicals lamic terrorism.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Go go ahead and watch this.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
Let me take a moment to send the love and
prayers to our entire nation, to the people of Australia
and especially all those affected by the horrific and anti
Semitic terrorist attack. And that's exactly what it is, anti
Semitic that took place on a Hanka celebration in Sydney.

(28:50):
What a terrible, terrible thing we don't learn. We joined
in mourning all of those who were killed and were
praying for the swift recovery of the wounded. Some are
very horrifically wounded. As you probably know, all nations must
stand together against the evil forces of radical Islamic terrorism,

(29:12):
and we're doing that.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
That is how you speak clearly about radical aslam is
you name the culprit in this particular case, they were
out above all to harm Jews, but they really also
care greatly about harming Christians and all other quote unquote
infidels as well.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
That's how you speak clearly.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
There was a lesson there for many people, perhaps above
all over the past trying few days the leadership of
both Brown University and.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
The State of Rhode Islands.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
But anyway, go back to this Honka party, beautiful celebration
at the White House.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Really quite touching stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Perhaps one of my favorite moments was so Trump does
the script of remarks and there's actually a one hundred
plus year old Holocaust survivor right there.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
I was standing like two feet wave of them.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Are actually Trump and the Hawk Coasts vivor have a
very unscripted, pleasant exchange. Some hostage families go up on
stage to thank the President for his reason work and
getting the hostage out of Gaza, and then President calls on,
calls on my old good friend and a former guest
on the Josh Hammer Show, Will Sharf. Will is currently
the staff secretary to presidents. He's the one who's always

(30:20):
handing the president of those executive orders. Will has been
a very good friend of mine for many, many years
now and again he came on this show while go
to talk about his then run for a trained general
of the state of Missouri, and Trump invites Will to
lead the prayers for the actual candlelight and the candlelighting
of the Manora for the third Knight of Hanukah, which
Will does ably. And after that, Donald Trump looks at

(30:43):
Will and he's like, Will, I didn't know you were
that Jewish man. You're really Jewish, eliot. Everyone is burst
out laughing. I mean, like Will's clearly like smiling a
little embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
It was great. I mean, the President was hilarious. I
mean he is just so fun.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
I say this so many times, but one of Donald
Trump's greatest political attributes is the fact that he's just
so freaking funny. I mean he's doing like the little
like shimmy up there, you know, pointing out people in
the crowded recognized as there. I mean, like he's a
total natural. The dude is was was born to be
the public figure, to be the global icon that he is.

(31:16):
And you know, in many ways, they just don't make
him like Danto anymore. They really don't. I mean, often imitated,
never duplicated, as they say. So A beautiful, beautiful, beautiful
events at the White House. The prior and I, my
wife and I as well were at the Vice President's
residence at the Naval Observatory for the Vice President's own
Honka party, which was a beautiful sunthing, smaller, but a

(31:41):
beautiful evening in its own right. My first time actually
ever being at the Naval Observatory, which was really cool
to be there. You had the US Marine Band which
was there playing all sorts of a festive Honukkah songs
and whatnot there. The Vice President came out a little
later with it with his wife Usha, gave gave some
brief remarks, I would say, considerably briefer than President Trump.

(32:04):
He did not spend quite as much time, you know,
with the crowd in interacting as President Trump does. That
kind of just goes to their differing personalities. I would
say the mood in the room, from what I could
gather at the Vice President's gathering, was slightly more uneasy
and slightly more unsettled than kind of the unambiguous joint

(32:25):
celebration at the White House. Donald Trump is seeing correctly
as being an unambiguous friend of the Jewish people and
certainly of the Jewish date of Israel.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
He has a track record to bat it up.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
There's really nothing else for the most part of that
he possibly could have done or been doing to solidify
his bona fides in that particular respect. The issue with
Vice President Advance, as we've alluded to on the show,
is not as some are saying, that he is anti Semitic.
I think that's complete and utter bs. It's it's total
horse crap. I've known the Vice president for for some

(32:59):
years now, and I don't think that he has an
anti Semitic bonen in his body, as is often said.
For what it's worth, he has numerous Jewish staffers in
his Vice President's office. I know multiple of them. I
do not for a second think that JD. Vans is
anti Semitic. What I will say is I think the
room was kind of uneasy given the fact that the
Vice President is known to be so chummy with Tucker Carlson,

(33:20):
who is the most dangerous anti Semite in America today,
probably in the entire history of the United States there
and the Vice President has not exactly done much, if anything,
to take any distance between himself and Tucker. So, for
what it's worth, anecdotally, that was kind of the theme
that I had come up in a lot of my
conversations there in the room that night. By the way,
another thing that I saw pertaining to JD. Van So

(33:42):
just yesterday, actually just yesterday. Again, we're not going to
do a deep dive on this on this Susie Wilds
vany Fair stuff, but as part of the Vanity Fair articles,
per the Susie Wilds interview, apparently the author who was
named Chris Whipple, got a scoop from Marco Rubio as well,
and apparently what Mark or Rubio said, according to Vanny Fair,

(34:03):
and we can quibble us to this is actually what
he said. Because Vanny Fair is Vanny Fair and Susie
Wyld's is the same that she was taking totally out
of context.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
So I mean, is this correct. I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
But for whatever it's worth, and your mileage may vary. Apparently,
what Rubio told Vanny Fair, possibly through Susie Wilde, has
not really clear. Was he allegedly said, if jd Vance
runs for president, He's going to be our nominee and
I'll be one of the first peoples to support him.
That's a Rubio allegedly told Chris Whipple in this interview
published Tuesday by Vanny Fair. Now, Rubio has said something

(34:35):
along these lines before, so it's not exactly a shock.
I guess I would just say this. I'm not entirely sure,
and perhaps, I mean, maybe he just can't say anything
else right now because everyone thinks that Jad is the
presumed successor Donald Trump, which he may well be, and
that was of course part of the calculation for Donald
Trump picking someone who was basically half his age to
be his running mate in the first place last year,

(34:56):
back in twenty twenty four. But for what it's worth,
I am a jungly the opinion that iron sharpens iron.
I am generally of the opinion that competitive primaries are
better than non competitive primaries, and Jdvans his twenty twenty
eight prospects are deeply closely tied to the success of
this particular administration, and right now President Trump does not

(35:17):
have the greatest approval ratings in the world. The right
track wrong track metrics right now when it comes to
United States are not particularly good. They're not as bad
as Joe Biden has first or anything like that, God forbid,
but they're not exactly great either. Vice President Vance whatdsworth
his current favorable unfavorable splits. He's currently underwater as well,
although at times less so than President Trump. But it's

(35:40):
hard to feel overly confident in JD. Van's twenty twenty
eight right now, at least, while the administration continues to
tread water at best and possibly lose ground when it
comes to moderate Americans, independent Americans, things like that. There's
actually already been some very like way way way, wait,
wait way too really polling between JD. Vance and Gavin Newsom,

(36:02):
who was viewed, I think correctly as the Democrat favorite
for twenty twenty eight, and the advanced Newsome polling is
basically something of a toss up. There's actually one outlier
poll from Yahoo News that has Newsome up by eight points.
It doesn't really matter. These are all very hypothetical polls.
But the point is this. The point is that this
is really early, and I don't think that Marco Rubio

(36:22):
should be foreclosing his possible path in twenty twenty eight,
nor should other Republicans for that matter. It is way
too early for this there and because the vice president
is by definition the vice president, his fortunes are tied
super super closely to the success of.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
This current administration.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Let's not forget how Kamala Harris struggled so mightily to
distance herself from the more unpopular elements of the Biden
administration as one of the things that really hamstrung her
in her attempts to be president last year. In twenty
twenty four, if the lack of popularity of the trum
administration continues into its second third year, and to be clear,
I hope it doesn't hope that this turns around a sap,

(37:02):
but if it does, Jadie Bans is going to have
a lot of these same questions dog him when it
comes to twenty twenty eight. So I saw that from Rubio,
and I just thought that he probably should not say
such things unless he feels like he has to do
to maintain his personal relationship with the Vice president.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
That's not my business.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
All I'm saying is whether it's Rubio, whether it's anyone
else who's thinking about entering the ring. There, iron sharpens
iron definitely don't foreclose your puzzle path. In twenty twenty eight, finally,
a couple days ago, we talked at length about Megan
Kelly and men Kelly and I have continued to have
something of a dialogue, I guess would be a polite
way of putting it on x formerly known as Twitter,

(37:41):
where she continues to double and triple and quadruple down
in the hole that she has dug for herself, in
the hole that she has just continually dug for herself,
arguably for a year or longer now, but very very
much so in recent months. So this reached something of
a fever pitch where a lot of people start criticizing
Megan Kelly for her refusal to criticize Candace Owans, who

(38:05):
she recently has said that she loves. She said that
she loves Candace Owens even though can Zones has been
the leading the leading conspiracist since Charlie Kirk's horrific assassination.
In fact, Erica Kirk just flew to Nashville to meet
with Candace on Monday, which is totally insane, by the way,
totally insane that Erica would fly to Nashville as opposed
to the other way around. Okay, not my business, but

(38:27):
totally insane for it's worth. Candace is so lunacy inclined,
such an absolute mental patient that she was telling her
audience yesterday on Tuesday that she refused to drink water
at this meeting with Erica Kirk, which apparently lasts like
four or four and a half hours. She just didn't
drink world the whole time, apparently because she was afraid
of what it might be poisoned. I mean, this is

(38:48):
the insane, deranged garbage that Megan Kelly has been falling
over backwards to defend for months now, all as we
explain to Monday Show, because she is death afraid of
Tucker Carlson and Candice Owens as followers, even though she
knows darn well that Tucker and Candace what they're saying
is demonic and evil as we said on Monday show,

(39:10):
she is the Dictionary definition of a coward. But fast
forward a little bit. Here was Megan Kelly's big reveal
on our show yesterday. Go ahead and watch this.

Speaker 6 (39:18):
So in any event, Candace knows I disagree with her
on this petty Internet people want to turn that into
a cat fight between Candace and yours truly, which will fail.
She and I actually have only gotten closer over the
past couple of months as people try to make me
attack her, so off, Okay, all.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Right, so me and Kelly not holding him back there,
you know, as Megan does in her inner kind of
serial attempts to be cool into into her mid to
lay fifties. She she likes to drop a lot of
f bounds, which we are bleeping out for you because
we have more class than she does. But the more
interesting thing is this. She admits that she's become closer
to Candace Owens in recent months. So I don't real sources,

(39:59):
but I will say this. About a week after Charlie's
perrific assassination, Megan was privately telling people that what Cannas
was saying about charlie assassination was insane and nuts I
don't reveal sources. Meghan was privately saying that at that time.
Now she is saying that the reason that she didn't

(40:20):
criticize Cannas is because she went out of her way
and true self aggrandizing fashion, because no one is more
correct or righteous than Magan Kelly in her own destoried,
warped mind. Now she's saying that she was the one
who organized this grand pow wow between Kennis and Eric
Kirk because she doesn't agree with Kennis e ones. But
Kenn deserves to be heard? What why does she deserve

(40:42):
to be heard? Does her claim that Erica Kirk was
complicit in choice assassination? Does that deserve to be heard?
Her claim that Turning Point was a staffer from Tyler
Boyer to Mikey McCoy, that they knew and work complaicit,
Does that deserve to be heard?

Speaker 2 (40:55):
That I add fore knowledge? Does that deserve to be hurt?

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Magan Kelly, while you're bring on people like noted dimwit
failed comedian Dave Smith, while you're platforming him and refusing
to call out at all, the woman who said that
I had.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Fore knowledge and choice assassination?

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Do all these claims deserve to be heard, and you're
saying that she got closer to cannas reasons she got
closer while she was doing this Again, I'm telling you
I know for a fact that Megan was telling people
a week or less after Charlie's murder that she was
scared of Candace and Tucker's followers, even though she knew

(41:34):
that what Candace was saying was nuts. This is definitional
coward lead behavior. She is outing herself. My whole social
media feed is just filled with people dunking on Megan
Kelly for refusing to take a stand and being a
total coward. When I was in DC the past couple
of days, I had more people approached me applauded me

(41:55):
for pushing back on Megan Kelly than for pushing back
on Tucker and Candace. Because grom canyons are just so
clearly out there. Their work speaks for itself. Megan tries
to hide behind things like she's just neutral when she's
just trying to bring people together. No, we see through
your bs. You've chosen a sign, You've sold your soul

(42:17):
to Tucker and Canvas. You are pusillanimous in the extreme,
and you will not call them out because you're scared
of their followers. But we will continue to call you
out as necessary here on The Josh Hammer Show, and
you deserve it, frankly more than anyone in my entire
social media universe.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
As alway supposed to.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Make sure to like and describe to our show whether
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Check out our YouTube show at Newsweek's YouTube page, watches
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