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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Just barely coming
out of foreclosure, just got our
mortgage redone, just to goright back into it.
So my nervous system is allover the place and I'm asking,
like, why, god?
Like what?
I mean, we just pulled this out.
What are you pulling this backin for?
And we borrow from our friends.
We borrow, we survive sixmonths.
(00:21):
We're borrowing the mortgagepayment.
We're like thinking we just gotto hang on six months.
Six months come six months.
To the day I reach out to thebank and said, hey, it's been
six months, can we give us ourmoney?
And said no, actually, yeah,they gave us $40,000.
And so the rest of it they weregoing to keep for penalties for
damaging the MasterCard brand.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
All right, welcome to
another yet amazing edition of
the Journey to Freedom podcast.
And I am Dr B, I'm your hostand, man, something about doing
these shows just rejuvenates me.
I just got done with it.
I was just telling Colin, I gotdone with doing a web class
that took an hour and it endedlike a half hour ago and I was
(01:20):
like, oh, I got to get goingready for the next one.
And then, soon, as I you know,before the show, when I talked
to our Ooh, I got to get goingready for the next one.
And then, soon, as I you know,before the show, when I talked
to our guests that I startedtalking to Colin, I just got,
man, I can't wait to do thisshow.
And all my energy just cameback and got excited again,
because the journey to freedomis special.
The journey to freedom came fromfrom me going to a trusted
(01:41):
leadership seminar that I didwith a guy named David Horsaker
and I've interviewed him on myLiving Boldly with Purpose
podcast and just an amazingindividual and just you know,
talks about how we begin most ofour conversations and we start
out with trust, and whether wetrust an individual or not right
(02:02):
away can determine thatrelationship.
And so this is this incredible,he's probably one of the world
leaders on trust leadership.
I go to the seminar it's got500 people in the room and
there's 30 folks of color in theroom and even less black men in
the room.
And so I go home and say howcan I make a difference, how can
I take this information?
Because our community somehowis not running in the circles
(02:26):
that would go to this event inMinneapolis, minnesota or
wherever the heck we were inMinnesota that would say you
know, this is something that'simportant.
And so I came back and that wasbirthed the Journey to Freedom
podcast.
That said OK, how do we beginto talk about some of these
issues?
Podcast that said, okay, how dowe begin to talk about some of
these issues?
And you know, as I was prayingabout it and you know, I said,
(02:48):
you know, god, I just want towork with people of color.
I think this would be great.
And then it came super clear tome you need to work with black
men.
And then I said, well, lord, Idon't know if I want to work
with black men, because blackmen are hard, they can be tough
to talk to.
They get, they got their ownopinions and they get you know.
But what I found over the last175 episodes that I was
(03:09):
absolutely in the right spot,that I have been able to find
from all walks of life,successful black men that have
stories, that have been throughstuff and then have come out of
being able to make a differencein people's lives stuff and then
have come out of being able tomake a difference in people's
lives.
And then what's so neat aboutthe story is I get feedback from
(03:30):
people who've watched theepisodes and seen the episodes
is like there's now like arenewed belief that if he could
do it and go through that, Ihaven't gone through that.
There's no reason I can't dothat.
You know whether I'm talkingabout a physician, an attorney,
you know, or an actor or anathlete, or you know whether
they're Super Bowl folks or NBAfolks, or you know I did Ronnie
(03:51):
DeVoe for New Edition.
I mean we've had so many justincredible shows of what
people's lives have been like.
Who you know?
He was in prison for 19 yearsand it happened to be that he
was in jail when the crime wascommitted and was still in
prison for 19 years.
You tell me how that works.
(04:12):
I mean, it's just and wasn'tbitter and has come out and has
done some amazing things.
And so today, as I was talkingto Colin, I said what are you
excited about?
He's excited about his businessand the momentum that it has
and the things that he's goingto be able to do, and not only
that, but the people that he'sgoing to be able to help and the
communities that he's going tobe able to impact and to be able
to do.
(04:32):
And so he's just.
You know, I would say I'm theluckiest person because I get I
got all 176 of these people thatI got to ask selfish questions
too, because I know it's goingto help my life.
And today is not going to be anydifferent.
I'm going to ask the questions,not that I hope that you guys
would want to know as well, butthe ones that I know that are
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going to springboard my businessand my life, and the things
that I do and the things thathe's been able to do and the
things he's been able toaccomplish that have made just
an impact already, and thethings that he's ramping up to
do.
You guys are going to just beso excited to see wow, there's
another person that I can lookat, that I can say and most of
(05:14):
our guests, and I'm sure, calledthe same way is you know if you
really wanted to reach out tothem because you had a specific
question.
I have yet to find one of myguests that would say absolutely
not, you can't talk to me.
You know it doesn't matterwhether they're
multimillionaires or they're inthe community making a
difference.
They know that in order to makea difference, they need to be
(05:36):
available and so, just so neatthat you're on call.
Thank you for being part of theshow.
Thank you for your willingnessto take your time on a Friday,
when you know, as we'rerecording this, it's a Friday
and it's just.
You know it's a beautiful dayoutside and you know he happens
to live out by the ocean, so hecould be running out and, you
know, doing ocean things, buttoday he's spending it with us.
(05:57):
So thanks for being on.
Please start with your story.
Tell us who you are.
I think that's what people loveto hear more of who you are
than you know that kind of stuff.
So, uh, and give us your story.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I'll be here about to
be on.
Thank you, you know, I didn'tknow I was going to have such a
latitude.
You say someone tell your story.
You know, I'm 63 years young,I'll be 64 in a couple of months
, and so I have a lot of liferight and so, um, I'm going to
try and think of the highlightedparts that I think really,
(06:29):
really shaped my life right.
You know, I grew up, I was bornin Washington DC, but I went
with my parents to Jamaica.
My dad was Jamaican, my mom wasfrom Virginia when I was at the
age of two, so I grew up inJamaica until the age of nine,
and it was a very differentculture.
In Jamaica, you know, we walkedto the schoolhouse that's on
the hill, you know, there's,like you know, there's, like you
know, maybe 12 people in theclass, and then my dad came to.
(06:53):
My dad and mom left Jamaica,left, my sister and I with our,
with my grandparents, mypaternal grandparents, and my
younger brother was only two.
They took with them toCalifornia.
I think that was like my firstabandonment wound that I
recognized through life, that Iwas thinking to myself well,
what's wrong with us?
Why aren't we going?
We didn't understand.
(07:13):
You know, at seven and six andseven at the time that you know
my dad was going to take the youknow the boards and you had to
go and try to raise the familyand you know that was a little.
It was too expensive to takeall of us.
So I just remember that thatwas kind of like a troubled time
.
But my grandparents wereamazing, you know, my
grandmother was very loving andmy grandfather was very stern.
(07:36):
So but the reason why I'msharing that because we fast
forward to our parents finallycalled for us and we came.
We came here to the states andhere you have.
You have two black, you know,my sister and I.
We have this heavy jamaicanaccent and we're thrown into you
know this school system and atthe time we first landed in los
angeles but stayed there for avery short period of time.
(07:56):
My dad mom bought a house inthe san fernando valley in
sherman, california.
So now you have two of only Ifour kids of color in an
all-white elementary school.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, as you were
saying, san Fernando Valley,
because I know SouthernCalifornia very well and you
said how old you were.
I can't imagine You're in LAwhere, yeah, there is a
community of folks of color.
San Fernando Valley not so much.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
No, not so much.
I mean, we did go to school inLA for a little while, even with
the Jamaican accent.
We got chased home all the time.
It was like somehow we juststood out and that wasn't a good
thing.
Back then, then we even stoodout even more because that's the
first time, because in Jamaica,if you've ever been there, you
have all-color Jamaicans, youhave Indian Jamaicans, japanese
Jamaicans, you have IndianJamaicans, japanese Jamaicans.
(08:43):
So everyone has a Jamaicanaccent.
Everyone thinks the same, youlook the same, you don't think
anything about it.
Coming to, you know, san AntonioValley, an all-white school,
coming with this, you know heavyJamaican accent and because we
kind of had our schooling was so, you know, concentrated that
all the books that they werereading, you know I would like I
read that book.
(09:03):
I read that book, I read thatbook and I felt really smart but
also realized that was thefastest way to get alienated by
all the other kids.
So now you have a heady accent,you're black, you don't look
like anybody and you're raisingyour hand, because that's how
you would talk raise your handand answer questions.
So it was interesting.
Within a matter of probably myfourth or fifth grade, my
(09:24):
reading level started to retard.
I started to realize all of asudden, all of a sudden, my, my,
my sixth grade teacher, mrsParks sweetly, I still remember
to this day because she, shetook pity on me because, because
, uh, if you know anything aboutJamaican men and your dad's a
doctor, the last thing you wantto hear is that your kid is
reading below school.
You know age level.
(09:44):
So, my, you know.
So, like I, I didn't know thedifference, I was just trying to
fit in, but I realized that Iwent for b it's super outgoing,
super smart, to actually kind ofdummy myself down and my dad,
without you know, god bless him,you know the best way.
He only knew how to try andteach me how to try to make sure
(10:04):
that I could read effectively.
Every sunday he would tell howto try and teach me how to make
sure that I could readeffectively.
Every Sunday.
He would tell me to go get theSunday paper and bring it in and
start reading the Sunday paperout loud to him and of course
I'm reading words now I've nevereven seen.
So every time I stumbled over aword, he would smack me in the
back of the head and go what areyou stupid.
What are you stupid?
It's so-and-so, unbeknownst tohim and unbeknownst to me.
That's like pavlov's theorywhen you start, you know you can
(10:25):
anchor in a term and a thoughtprocess and a belief system.
Uh, you don't realize how thatcan affect you later, right?
So I so, academically Istruggled in school super good
athlete, not so good student andI started to believe that I was
dumb for a very, very long time.
For a very long time.
I mean I went through very longtime.
I mean I went through my.
So I so, basically, you know Iwent through school.
(10:46):
You know I graduated high school, went to junior college, then
my dad went to Howard University.
And so you know, I was theoldest son, so in my dad's mind
that I was going to be the nextdentist in the family.
Academically, of course, Ididn't want to be a dentist.
I couldn't stand going to thedentist.
But that was kind of like thepredisposed thing, that I was
(11:10):
told that that's what I wasgoing to be and I did my best to
live up to those expectations.
And so you know, I had barely aCGPA.
And then I go to my dad, says,ok, I'm going to get you into
Howard.
I go to my dad.
Uh says, okay, I'm gonna getyou into howard.
I go to howard and now it'sculture shock again for me.
So now you have a black kidthat grows up in a predominantly
(11:31):
white community even thoughthey started busing kids in the
70s, but it was predominantlywhite and then I went to an
all-black university, feelingcompletely out of place again oh
my gosh.
Yes, of course, because I hadthe big afro and I was wearing,
you know that, you know the, youknow the surfing clothes and
that kind of stuff, and it'slike culture shock city and um,
lo and behold to me, I just feltout of place and um, and I, you
(11:53):
know, I wanted to come homewithin the first semester and
and of course I wasn't allowedto um, but I still noticed that
I just, I still was strugglingat school and my parents got the
point with we're not paying forschool if you're not getting,
you know, a's and B's, which Iwasn't.
So I decided that I was likeI'm gonna come home for spring
break and I wasn't going back tocollege because it wasn't my
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thing and my brother, my sister,had already graduated from
college.
My younger brother is now incollege and so I'm the only one
in my family that doesn't get acollege degree and that's like
the badge of shame, right.
What I learned later so youknow, to labor into the thing
what I learned later aboutmyself is that every job I had
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as a young teenager or in myyoung 20s, I got fired from
because I was not employable.
You know, I couldn't check theclock and come home at 8 o'clock
and leave at 5.
And that's when I realized thatI was an entrepreneur but I
wasn't made to work a job as anentrepreneur.
So I left school and I startedto decide.
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My brother said hey, why don'tyou go do loans?
I was like loans like mortgages, like you just give people
money and they pay.
You never heard of it.
But I went and got a suit andwent to this company and
interviewed and said I want tobe a mortgage broker.
And the guy said how much moneyyou want to make?
I go I don't know.
Fifty thousand dollars a year.
Right then I thought that was amillion bucks yeah, of course
(13:20):
yeah, right, and he's like hesaid're hired and I thought I
didn't realize it was a fullcommission job and then I had to
learn how to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
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excited no-transcript, that are
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Speaker 1 (14:48):
Lo and behold, for 25
years that became my career.
That's where I made my firstmillion dollars in the mortgage
business and I was good at itand I loved doing it.
It was my passion and I endedup building my own mortgage
company, married my third wife,which is my current wife, which
is for 25 years we've beenmarried.
I already had two previousdaughters from my previous
(15:11):
mother and then a son, and thenmy wife had two sons and so we
had a blended marriage, blendedfamily.
The mortgage business is takingoff.
I'm doing extremely well.
We had a couple offices and I'mdoing my thing.
We had a couple offices and I'mdoing my thing.
You know, what was suffering was, you know, my health.
I mean, I was driving, you know, going to work, having a
frappuccino, having afrappuccino at lunch, eating out
(15:34):
every day.
So physically I was not thespecimen I am today.
I was actually in pretty badshape, but I was doing well
financially and life was good.
I came into the mortgagebusiness at 18% interest rates.
People were begging us to givethem loans.
I went through the 09, the1990s crash, no problem.
Everyone's talking about thecrash of 2007.
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And my ego told me I've beenthrough it all already.
I've been doing this for 20years.
It can't be that big of a deal.
We had a little bit of moneyput away.
I'm now living in a $4.2 millionhome by the, you know, in
Hermosa beach.
By the beach, I think.
I have life by the ass she's myFrench and the bottom falls out
(16:16):
of the mortgage industry.
And the thing is is that whenyou have, when you have a single
source of income, no matter howmuch money, that is right, and
I want to say the mortgagecompany was probably doing maybe
$10, $12 million a year whenyour income stops overnight and
you realize like, is it going tostart again, or what Is it
(16:38):
going to start again?
And you realize this is whenyou saw the whole world panic,
right, the banking systemcompletely imploded and even
though it's still trying to doloans and still trying to figure
out how to make people happy,how to get people into houses,
the scariest part for me, dr B,was I woke up one day and went.
I don't want to do this anymore.
Yeah yeah, and it's the onlything I've ever known how to do
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that I was really really good at.
And so you talk about identity.
That was my identity.
And when you take the passionaway from something that you
love doing and then you have noother skill set, you have a you
know, a $15,000 mortgage andcars and all that kind of stuff
and the money's not the bankaccounts dropping by the day.
(17:20):
I was terrified.
I was not terrified as much aslosing all the stuff that we
were losing.
I was terrified that I had nodirection.
I didn't know what.
I was terrified.
I was not terrified as much aslosing all the stuff that we
were losing.
I was terrified that I had nodirection.
I didn't know what I was goingto do.
What was you know?
How was I going to make aliving?
And and that interesting waswhere kind of God led me into a
direction that I didn't even seecoming.
So I'm telling you that I wasn'tas healthy as I could have been
(17:41):
.
I was a type two by diabetic.
As healthy as I could have been, I was a type 2 diabetic.
I watched your journey, youknow, reversing type 2 diabetes.
Love, love, love it.
Sleep apnea, high bloodpressure.
My mother died of a massiveheart attack at my age.
Now, at 63 years old, my daddies from heart,
diabetes-related heart failureand kidney failure.
So I'm thinking I'm going to.
I am now repeating the familycurse and the doctor tells me
(18:04):
you they're sleep apnea.
You stop breathing like 81times a night, you always have a
couple of mores and you don'twake up.
It was interesting enough thatI got those diagnoses way before
this moment happens to me.
But I'm still getting dressed inthe morning, still going to our
office that we downsized, butI'm still.
My thing is that we're going toget through this bubble, get
(18:25):
through this.
You know we're going to figureout.
There's going to be another wayto get to the other side.
You know, I don't even know.
I'm not passionate about it.
It's the only thing I know howto do.
I get up on monday morning to goput on a suit.
I had tons of suits.
That was my uniform.
You know it's like I.
I mean that's never happened tome and I took the next suit
(18:50):
down.
Same thing, the next suit down.
I could get it snapped.
But my belly's hanging overit's tight, no-transcript tears.
(19:14):
I'm standing in my closetsobbing and I felt like I can't
tell you the words.
I was telling myself, like whatare you doing here in your
closet, crying you can't, youcan't fit your clothes, and I'm
sure it was the pressure of allthe other things that was going
on you, the houses like you'rein foreclosure, the car you're
being repossessed I mean we'retalking about the financial
crisis of all time for me, andall I can think about is I'm in
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my closet.
I can't fit in my clothes.
This is like the thing thatbreaks me right, uh, and I walk
out of the closet, I walk intothe kitchen and my wife looks at
me and she's like what's wrong?
And I go, I can't get into it.
I literally ate myself out ofmy freaking clothes.
I can't get into my clothes.
And she's like is it that bad?
I go, it's like I can't getdressed to go to work.
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I mean I can't, it'suncomfortable and and I was like
going something, I gotta dosomething.
And I think people may get.
Maybe this may be a lamp forsome people, but in that moment
in my life there was nothingthat I could control like the
financial world was going.
I mean it was like there wasonly so much I could do to
generate revenue from a businessthat just got basically shut
(20:18):
down.
Um, I go.
The only thing I can control isnot dying.
At this point, the only thing Icontrol is not dying.
So I've got to get control ofthis and maybe if I get control
of something in my life, I canstart controlling other things.
And so I started looking forsolutions and I'm going through
all the different things andlooking at all the different
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gurus out there, all theseweight loss protocols Tried many
of them for months Like abodybuilder.
All I got was fatter, did allthese different things, so did
the, did all the acting's diet.
I bought the um Nutrisystemsfood, I mean everything, and
it's nothing's working for meand I'm extremely jaded, I'm
frustrated, I can't seem tofigure out something works for
(21:03):
me and all of a sudden I I'vestumbled across this at the time
was like a 60 year old umweight release protocol that
that uh, some guy writes a bookabout and said it's the weight
loss secret, the cure for fatloss.
And I'm, and I'm superskeptical and but I'm desperate
and and so I started, I startedgoogling.
Where can I find this, thisthing, this protocol that you
(21:26):
can lose a pound a day of fat.
It's gotta be BS.
And I find this doctor in OrangeCounty and I and my wife and I
go down this year and I and Iunderstand the money's tight.
And this guy go to this doctorand he said, yeah, I can give
you this stuff.
It's a hormone you got to take.
It's going to be three thousanddollars, twenty nine, ninety
seven, and I'm like threethousand bucks and but he's like
(21:47):
, yeah, but it'll work.
And I was like, uh, okay.
So I look at my wife and she'slike, if this is what you got to
do, I mean you got, you got todo it.
So I actually got the amount, Igot the package and I basically
split it with my wife because Iwas like you got to do this
with me, because I just know me,like if you decide to go eat
(22:08):
something, I'm going to cave andwe can't afford to blow this
money.
So I decided to follow thisprotocol.
So I decided to follow thisprotocol and because I was so
jaded and so skeptical my it'sfunny that my my philosophy in
my mind was I'm not going todeviate one iota from this thing
so I can go back to this doctorand tell him that he's a snake
oil snake oil salesman and he'sfull of crap.
(22:29):
I followed this protocol and,unbelievably, in 37 days I
released 48 pounds of fat Whoa,and if people are going to stop
and go on this thing like this,I literally every day.
I'm getting on the scale.
I'm like going, this is cannotbe possible, can I be possible?
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And it's just like I'm like,and all of a sudden I'm just
noticing my blood pressure isnormal.
I had to stop taking mymedication.
The sleep apnea is gone becauseof the weight around my,
because when your neck is acertain size, you actually it's
one of the reasons why you havesleep apnea.
Yeah, right, and you know, thetype 2 diabetes A1C is now in
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line.
I'm like this is crazy.
And so I said, okay, it's funny.
I was trying to figure out otherways to make money online.
That's when they were doing themake money online.
All these schemes and scamswere going on.
People were flashing cash andall that kind of stuff.
And I'm like trying to followthe footsteps and all I did is
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I'm walking out to my neighborsand my neighbors are looking at
me like, like what?
Like how?
How do you look?
Look like that.
And the first question I do askyou is like, are you okay?
Because when you release thatmuch weight, oh gosh, yeah, they
think you're dying or somethinglike that.
But the difference was I waslike all the all the time I was
putting in the gym that youcouldn't see because of all the
inflammation and the fat, I wasactually really like, look,
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really I look like I could.
I was like they were like theirmind was boggled and and uh,
and I would stop.
And, because I just wanted toshare it with people, I would
stop and have a 45 minuteconversation trying to explain
exactly where they had to go andwhat they had to do, and my
wife goes okay, I love you, baby, but you got to put this on a
website or something, because Ican't't, we can't stop every
(24:15):
time we're late for you know,late for things.
I didn't even think about thatstuff.
I was just thinking about youknow, whatever, and so I go on I
go okay, I figured out how tomake a blog and I and I go on
youtube and I literally do avideo and say this is my before
picture, this is my afterpicture.
I can't sell you this stuff.
I had to go to a doctor to getit.
If you put, you're like me andyou tried something, everything
(24:38):
else, and nothing ever workedfor you.
I just want you to knowsomething does work.
This is crazy.
I can't sell it to you.
But if you have any questions,here's my telephone number and
everyone's like why are youputting?
You can't put your telephonenumber on YouTube, man, you're
going to have all these quackscalling you.
I'm like I know, but I justwant to help somebody.
I want to get.
That was my thing, was God?
(24:59):
If you get me out of this, Iwill dedicate my life to do
something for other people in adifferent way.
And my phone started ringing andI started creating this blog
and I was and I was, and so thisis kind of how the business
kind of organically jumped up.
So I'm I can't get these peoplethis hormone because they have
to go to a doctor and get aprescription.
(25:19):
And then I find out that thereis a Canadian pharmacy that
people could drop, shift stuffto and that the laws were if you
were buying a medication anykind of FDA approved medication
for your own personal use, thatyou could order it and have it
delivered to your house.
And that was fine as long asyou had a 90-day supply for your
own personal use.
And so I became an affiliateBefore I even knew what an
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affiliate was.
I became an affiliate and I putthe link to this pharmacy in my
blog and I was just obsessedwith learning everything about
this protocol to possibly know.
And all of a sudden I got thiscommission statement and it said
I made $2,000.
And I was like I made $2,000just like writing a blog.
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This is crazy.
And I actually looked at thestatement and it said I sold
$20,000 worth of this promo andI was like what Wait a minute,
so wait a minute?
So my mind goes, if I could getrid of the middleman there.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, that's like 10%
right, 10% yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
If I could get rid of
the middleman and this is how
God works I know faith is a partof your questioning.
It's like I thought I spoke itIf I could get rid of the
middleman, then we could have abusiness again, we could make
some money doing it.
And so I didn't know how to dothat.
And literally, because of theblog posting I was doing, I was
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like I said I was obsessed withjust literally.
I got like a PhD and how thishormone works, Right, and now I
became the number one guy in theworld.
That's how I use it.
The point was back then I justjust every time somebody asked
me a question, if I didn't knowthe answer, I'd go research it
and find it or experiment onmyself.
And also I have this, this farm, this other pharmacy from
overseas reached out to me andsaid, sir, I see that you're
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becoming this expert in thishormone ATG.
We can drop ship it for you ifyou want it to.
And the price was like now, atenth of what I paid this doctor
for.
And my thing was how can I getthis into the average folks,
Right?
So I'm thinking about my people.
Most people cannot afford $3,000.
And so I go and I then I sawthe actual price of the hormone
itself and I was like this isbig.
I mean this is crazy.
And uh, and I'll get into thewhole big pharma thing, because
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Big Pharma doesn't, they try toban it because they can't make
money on it.
Right, I believe it is probablythe best, safest weight release
process protocol on the planet,bar none.
So I answer their email, I getin contact with them, we have a
conversation, we make a deal andI said, okay, you'll drop ship
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it to people, I'll create awebsite and then I'll get all
the other stuff they need, allthe other supplies together and
we'll package up these littlepackages.
You drop ship the hormone, I'lldrop ship the packages and my
wife and I out of our, out ofour house that was in for going
in foreclosure.
Then I kept fighting the bankoff and off and off and off I
ended up fighting that bank offfor five years, by the way, yeah
(28:15):
, we have to be able to, but Imean, we in our house we created
we were just packaging uppackages and shipping them out
and I remember going you know, Icould just, if we could just
make like 500 a day, I think wewould be back to we're like it
just to be hope that there'ssomething that I can do other
than mortgages, because that'sall that we've done.
And we hit that number.
Then it was a thousand dollarsa day and then it was like then
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it was like then it just keptgoing and going um, and that was
like.
That was like we oh my god, wejust figured out a way to come
back and it was.
It was that was from like 2010,I think.
We launched the site and then,by by 2013, all of a sudden, uh,
we're getting people, customersare coming to our website, go
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hey, we can't check out man, wecan't check out your website, we
can't check out your website.
I'm like, well, they may catchit out.
I go to the website and themerchant account shut.
I shut down.
I'm like what happened?
The?
bank said I called the merchantaccount and they're like yeah,
I'm sorry, but your, your brandand your product violates our
terms of service and so we'reshutting you down.
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Now we had just come out of abig holiday sale there's like
$180,000 in sales that are dueto be paid out seized.
We had what we call like.
You had your reserve accountthat we didn't think about it
was like they keep 10% of yoursales in a reserve account and
after six months they'resupposed to give it to you, but
if you don't ask for it, theykeep it.
Well, there's another $300,000and something thousand in the
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reserve account.
So now there's almost a half amillion dollars in the bank's
account and they say we're goingto hold it for six months and
they will release it to you.
And I'm devastated but I'mthinking well, we got to survive
for six months and we can makeit happen.
And back then you didn't havethe Zells and the.
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It was like once again, thebottom comes out right, just
barely coming out of foreclosure, just got our mortgage redone,
just to go right back into it.
So my nervous system is allover the place and I'm asking
why God?
I mean, we just pulled us out.
What are you pulling us back infor?
And we borrow from our friends.
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We borrow, we survive sixmonths.
We're borrowing the mortgagepayment.
We're, like you know, thinkingwe just got to hang on six
months.
Six months come, six months.
To the day I reached out to thebank and said, hey, it's been
six months.
Can we get us our money?
And I said, no, actually.
Yeah, they gave us $40,000 andinstead of the rest of it, they
were going to keep for penaltiesfor damaging the MasterCard
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brand.
What All of it?
We got 40 grand.
40 grand just enough to pay offthe people that we borrowed
money from, and and that's whatthat knocked me to my knees, oh
my god, that knocked me becauseI didn't you know.
That's when I realized that, ohman, these guys have the power
to hurt you really bad like,because I had no way to fight
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them like, was it legal, was itright?
But I, when I went to attorneys, you're like, by the time you
pay me, and by the time even ifwe took it on contingency, by
the time that we get your moneyback, you're gonna owe us most
of it anyway in attorney fees.
And I gotta tell you that I was, I was, I was angry and bitter
for a couple of years, and thatanger and bitterness probably
kept us from really bouncingback faster, because I was just,
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I was just just waddling in theunjust that you're the
injustice of it all, and butstill pushing through because
that's what I do, right, I mean,I got a family to feed and I
take care.
So we end up getting likeanother merchant account from
overseas.
It was a lot more expensive, ittook a lot longer to get paid,
but we were able to kind oftread the water and still still
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do what we, and we just went onwith that.
And I think then is when, youknow, we kind of started making
money again.
We came out of it.
Then, after a couple of years,we started getting all these
different apps, paypal, otherthings that we could start using
.
Subsequently, they all ended upgetting shut down, but it was
always like the next one wecould put in place.
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And so we put in place, and sowe scaled back up, but now we
were always waiting for the nextshoe to drop, like waiting for
the next shoe to drop.
And this is when my beautiful,amazing wife because all during
the house coming, you knowlosing, you think we're losing
the house and everything and mywife looked at me and said you
know what?
I just want you to understand Idon't need this stuff, I don't
need this house, I don't needthe cars.
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I just need you to be alive andto just be with me.
Right, which for a man whothinks that he's got everything
on his shoulders and is takingputting everything on his
shoulders for his spouse, sothat you know that it's not
about the money, it's not aboutthe lifestyle.
I ain't going anywhere.
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You and I gotta be in a pinebox with with him.
We have one son left in thehouse, then um, young son left
in the house, like we got to doright and I remember having to
empty the sparkly spot.
I should throw all my change inthe sparkly spot like the big
sparkling bottle.
I remember when having to takethat bottle to the to ralph's
and throw it in the coin thingto pull the cash out to get
groceries.
And so when I say I felt thebowels of what financial ruin
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can feel like and how importanthaving an amazing partner and
having God in your life is,because God and I have an
interesting relationship, like Iwent to God on a 411 all the
time.
You know I went to God on a 911all the time.
911, yeah, 911.
God, okay, can you help me out?
God?
I'm in this room.
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God, can you please comethrough to me?
I really went to God on a 411.
And so my relationship with Godwas pretty much I didn't trust
the masculine, I didn't reallytrust my father, so I don't
really think I trusted God, buthe always came through for me,
even though I didn't think hewas coming through for me.
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And then my wife said one morebrilliant thing that took all
the pressure and I hope thislands on some other brother out
there that maybe they can do inthe grind.
She said these businesses arenot our businesses.
These are God's businesses.
Our job is just to stewardthese businesses.
Therefore, they're going to beand do whatever.
You are not doing what you.
You're not doing it all, likeyou think.
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You're the one that's buildingit.
You're the one that's creatingit.
You're the one that's bringingall these customers or not
bringing these customers, it'snot about you.
All we got to do is suit up,show up, live heart-centered and
let God take care of thedetails.
The day she said that to me,that landed in my soul.
I no longer have the pressureof being the guy to have to do
the thing.
(34:49):
So cool, so I don't know ifwe're going to keep going or are
you going to pause?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
We got to get to now,
Like you're like still in the
1990s.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Still not All right.
So now we're in the mid-2000s,okay, yeah, so now we're doing.
We still got the house, but in2017, we put the house in the
market In our mind, you know, wegot a buddy of mine to sell the
house for us.
He wasn't real well-versed, helived in Orange County, he
wasn't really well-versed in theSouth Bay, but he was a buddy.
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We thought we'd save some money.
He felt like he knew what hewas doing.
We put the house on the marketfor $5 million.
We're thinking by eating up themoney we owe the bank.
They got rid of the second.
We're calculating that we'regoing to walk in cash in his
house.
After fighting the bank for fiveyears, they finally gave in and
we won the battle, which thatwas a whole thing by itself One
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guy fighting an entireconglomerate of banks.
But it was like we think we'regoing to sell the house and it's
the wrong timing, the wrongprice, and the house just sits
and sits and sits and sits.
So we had no sale in the housein 2017.
On a short sale, we literallywalked away with nothing.
Like we got a refund from ourhomeowner's insurance policy,
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was the check that we walkedaway from and it felt like
someone had lifted an anvil offof my shoulder.
Yeah, because for all thoseyears where we weren't paying
the mortgage, I felt like animposter.
I couldn't even look myneighbors in the face If I'd be
on the balcony, you know, tryingto take in the ocean view, and
they'd walk out of their house.
I'd walk in my house because Iwas so ashamed for look like I'm
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posing living in this, you know, four plus whatever million
dollar house and we're barely,you know, we got enough money to
pay to live.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I still owe this bank
money.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
We got enough money
to pay to live, but I still owe
this bank money, and so when wefinally sold the house and
walked away from it, it wasliterally the most liberating
thing in my life.
Once we got over the fact, we'renot making any money on it.
It was like, yeah, but we don'thave this anvil around our neck
Now, what do you want to createnow?
What do you want to create now?
So we actually moved to OrangeCounty by the invitation of the
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same friends that sold our house.
We stayed there for two years,didn't jive for that, and then
we moved back to the beach andthis is where I think life
really started.
It was right before COVID,literally right before COVID
happened, and we got this littlecondo on the beach and it had
this beautiful ocean view, thebig, big, big pane window, and
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it was right across the streetfrom the beach in in uh, in
redondo beach, and I could look.
Every morning I woke up, Iwould have my cup of coffee, I'd
look out the window, I'd seethe dolphins and I would just
have.
Thank you god in my heart,thank you god in my heart, yeah,
and it's like that gratitudethat I just felt every day for
being alive.
We just had a small littleplace.
It's just the two of us.
The kids are doing okay, thebusiness is doing okay and I'm
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just waking up with gratitude.
I started doing what's called mythree-page letter to God.
I started that in Orange County.
I'm going to tell this storybecause I think it's important.
I used to love it, I used tolisten to his podcast all the
time and I said that myrelationship with God was more
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on a 9-1-1 than a 4-1-1.
And so I had this Bible.
I've had for 20 years.
Every time I opened the Bibleand tried to read the Bible, I
just felt stupid, I didn'tunderstand it.
And so I would read it in the V, the vowels, the vowels,
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whatever, and I couldn'tunderstand what it really, what
it was saying to me.
And he has tim's story on hispodcast and I think ten stories
talking there.
And he said in celsiusscripture, he, you know, he who,
um, he who works his land shallprosper.
And he started giving examples,like a mother raising her child
and she's working her land.
You know a man running hisbusiness, he's working his land,
he goes.
And he said it doesn't say youwill or you can prosper.
He said he who works his landshall prosper.
And I was like he just spoke tome, um, like I understood what
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he said.
He just translated some, averse in the bible that actually
I understood.
And so I'm sitting there inorange county at my dining room
table and he would have a sundaysermon.
And I started to.
I said I, I started to turn onthis guy's sermon because his
church wasn't very far from usin Orange County.
I said let me just check outhis sermon first, right Like
before I go physically into thisthing.
And I'm listening to thissermon and he gets to the end
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and he said I just want you toclose your eyes for a minute.
It's going to make me, it'sgoing to make me choked up.
I want you to close your eyesfor a minute.
And he said close your eyes.
He said, and all he said isthat God will fix your finances,
god could fix your health, godwill fix your relationship.
And it was like one of thethings Now at the time which I
kind of skipped over is that Ihad broken my back and in the
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gym I had injured my back.
I thought I just tweaked it andum ended up three weeks later
having really bad sciatica pain.
The next thing I know my leg isleft leg is dragging.
I go to the orthopedist.
He's like you got a reallysevere herniated disc.
If you were an nfl player you'dhave been in surgery.
You know, in two days.
You've been walking around foralmost a month like this.
You got to get into surgery.
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He wanted me to go to a certainsurgeon.
I had a ppo insurance companythat I had to use.
The surgeon from the actualinsurance company, yeah, um, had
the surgery, walked out of thehospital, felt great.
I was like, oh, thank you, itfelt well great.
24 hours later, uh, I got up toget out of got a bed to go to
the back, get up for thebathroom.
My back buckles and I fall tothe ground and I can't stand up.
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And I call my wife.
I'm like I can't stand up.
And I call my wife.
I'm like I can't stand up.
And so I.
Finally she got me out there.
But I was kind of bent over andwe called the doctor.
He's like you know, you're ahusky guy, you're.
You know you're muscular.
You just give yourself a coupleof days, weeks.
You know you just came out ofsurgery.
Two weeks go by and I'm tryingto get back into him and say you
know, this is, this is I can't,the pain is so bad, I can't
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stand up.
Finally, my wife I married anangel she goes.
I'm taking you to the emergencyroom, because if I go to you,
go to the emergency room, theycan't deny seeing you and the
doctor's got to come and take alook at you.
She takes me to the emergencyroom.
They do an MRI.
They see like a little pocket,like a little pocket on the.
On the scan they think it couldbe water.
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Is it water?
Is it an infection or something?
Because it doesn't make senseto have all this nerve pain that
I was having.
And he goes in there and findsout that the vertebrae right
before where he did the surgeryhad broken.
And to come to find out that Ihad a l4, l5 and he did surgery
on L3 4.
And he shaved it to where thevertebrae breaks and that's why
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I couldn't stand up because thevertebrae was banging against
each other.
And when I get out of surgery,he goes yeah, we figured it out.
Somehow you broke the vertebraeso I had to fuse you with L3 4.
And I didn't know what thatreally meant.
But I was like, okay, as longas I can walk, I I be fine.
I got out, walked out, you know,got out of surgery, um, still,
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I didn't have the immediate painthat I had, um, but I still had
this length in my leg and hesaid you know, it's going to
take about 18 months for thenerve to come back.
Um, it may not be permanent atthis point, but you're going to
have to wait 18 months.
So I waited 18 months andthat's the 18th month I'd gone
to Orange County because theother half was in Formosa.
And so I'm sitting therelistening to Tim's story.
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I'm still in pain now, comingout of surgery, and I end up
having seven back surgeries.
Just, you know, in a six-yearperiod of time, seven back
surgeries.
But this is where he says that.
And he said close your eyes andI hear God say I'm going to
heal your body, I'm going toheal your finances, I'm going to
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heal your marriage.
Because my wife and I were likethe pressure, all the pressure.
We were not on divorce courtbut we were not really connected
.
And I just start sobbing.
It was like it's something thatspoke to my soul.
I just started sobbing and mywife walks in again and she's
like what's going on?
I go, this is going to soundreally crazy, but I think God
just spoke to me and I told herwhat he said and, uh, and I just
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had left.
I had just been with a client ofmine and we went to a seminar
in Arizona and she she kepttelling me about cause she was
sober for like years and shekept saying she writes these
three page letters to God and Iwas like, well, how do you like
I don't, can you tell me moreabout that?
And she goes yeah, I get up inthe morning and I have three
categories.
I write gratitude, I got.
What am I going to?
What am I willing to give up?
Behaviors, belief systems.
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And I co-create with God.
I create, I build my dreams andI go that I never look at them.
I can't read my own writing.
And she had an old lady thereHer name was B, I think, and she
was her sponsor.
And she goes when are you goingto give up that story?
And I was like, huh, I go, youdon't understand, I really
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cannot read my own writing.
I said I should have been adoctorepad and I just started
writing.
I just started writing and I'mjust sobbing because I'm hearing
like I'm writing and I'mhearing like, literally like
scripture in my head that I'venever read in the Bible or at
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least I remember reading in theBible and I'm writing the
scriptures down and so I'mwriting and writing, and writing
and writing, and the firstcouple of days I can read part
of it, and so I was in everymorning.
Now I'm starting out this I'mgoing to write this three page
letter to God.
I started this practice and sonext, by day three, day four, I
look at it and I actually canread what I'm writing, like my
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handwriting literally changedwhere I could read what I was
writing.
I still do that practice tothis day.
Every morning I get up at 5.40am and I sit down and I write a
three-page letter to God.
And the reason why I'm sharingthat?
Because everything that I'vewritten in those scriptures we
see I have my gratitude.
I have things I'm going to giveup, such as behaviors, thoughts
, limiting beliefs, even if Ididn't show up for myself.
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The most powerful way I get togive up that behavior and then
co-create the car that's in mygarage was inside those notes.
This house that we live on, the6,500 square foot house we live
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on the beach here in OxnardShores, was on the beach are in
these letters to God.
I have journals up here.
If I could show you they're allstacked journals up here if I
could show you they're allstacked.
Of all, every day, since since2018 and 19, 2019, I've written
a three page letter to God, andeverything that I put my, all my
co-creations that I've put inthere have manifested themselves
, primarily manifestedthemselves in my life.
Okay, so we fast forward to now.
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I had my had my last backsurgery two years ago.
I had two districts to do, twodisc replacements um, I still
have a limp in my leg because,unfortunately, I didn't have any
permanent permanent.
I don't like to speak that.
I'm not gonna speak that withmyself.
I still have limited nerveimpingement in my left leg, that
that that shows itself as alimp currently, um, but I, I'm
able.
So I, this building, thisbusiness that I've built, that
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shows itself as a limp currently, um, but I, I'm, I'm able.
So I, this business is thisbusiness that I've built.
Right as I, as, as I was goingthrough the back surgeries if
you see my pictures with thesteroids and all the different
pain pills and medications, mybody blew back up, back Like I
looked, like I did when I firststarted this journey and I
decided that I needed to, I needsome motivation to get back in
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shape.
And so at the time we were inOrange County, I saw this guy in
the gym and he was justshredded.
And I go, I want to look likethat guy.
And now this is the guy thatI've had that probably on my
fourth back surgery or fifthback surgery right now, so it's
not my last one.
But I go, I got to do somethingto get myself back in shape.
I'm coaching.
You can tell my face feels likeI look like a pumpkin.
(46:25):
If you're on pregnancy or on along period of time, you see
what happens to people's bodies,absolutely.
So I see this guy and I walkedup to him and said, excuse me,
you can tell he competes andstuff.
I go, do you train or coachpeople?
And he goes, yeah, he goes,here's my number.
And he goes, yeah, he goes,here's my number.
(46:45):
Come to my office, you knowwhatever friday and we can talk
about it.
And I said I want to look likeyou again.
I said I've gone, I've told mystory, my backstory, all my back
problems, and I said I I can'tbe in this body any longer.
It's incongruent with who I am.
I'm coaching people.
And I said, and to me it's notreally about weights, like I
have all this information in mybody, and he says are you, are
you willing to compete?
I said no, I can't do that.
I can't get on a stage.
(47:06):
And he's like I really can'tcoach you and I go why?
Because he goes, your why isnot big.
I understand you want to getback into your body, but that's
your ego.
You got to have somethingbeyond yourself.
That you're scared, that scaresthe crap out of you.
That you're willing to do andthe fact that you said no so
quickly tells me that's whereyou got to go.
So if you decide you want to dothat, I can work with you.
I drive home and I go to the NPCsite for the competitive site
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and I started looking around.
I realized there's thismaster's division like for over
50 people.
I'm 59 right at the point intime and I go how bad, do you
want this?
And so I sign up for this.
I sign up for it.
It was like 16 weeks away.
I signed up for this 16 weekscompetition.
I send him text, him theenrollment thing, that okay, I
signed up.
(47:51):
He said, now we can get to work.
And lo and behold, almost 16weeks today.
I remember, I remember I evendid my social media because I'm
the kind of person that if I'mgoing to do something big so I
can't back out of it.
I tell the world.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
I tell everybody, so
I, so I, they saw me.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
I said I'm doing 16
weeks to shreds bill.
I'm going to take this body.
We go, this 42 inch waist Nowthat all of this inflamed body,
and I'm going to take it and I'mgoing to go and compete on this
.
I don the stage.
That's.
My only goal is to make thestage and um, and so I I go in
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there, I'm doing two-day trains,I follow his resume to the
letter, um, and we're like onemonth out of one month out of
competition time.
And then last month, you know, Idon't know if you've ever
talked to competitors, but youhave to go into the real cutting
phase and and then you have todo all these different things
and I've never done this, neverdone this before.
You have to do all thesedifferent things and I've never
done this before.
You have to have posing coachesand all that kind of stuff.
And I hired a posing coachbecause my guy disappears.
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No way he disappears.
He's from Brazil and apparentlyhe got some kind of marital
spot with his wife and he leftthe country and went back to
Brazil and I'm now in the last30 days of my and you don't have
your coach.
I got nobody, and I'm now in thelast 30 days of my coach and
you don't have your coach and Igot nobody.
I got my coach, I got nothingand I'm like I go, I can quit.
I mean, I'm in pretty goodshape now, but I go.
(49:10):
No, I've already told everybody, everybody that follows me, I
told them I'm doing this thing.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Now I'm going to show
up to watch the game.
I can't back out.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
So I go, my wife
comes with me, my two friends
come with me and I don't knowwhat I'm doing.
I, like you, know I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm really gonna invest in my
life, but I don't have not evenprepared, like you're supposed
to bring candy bars and all thiskind of stuff.
You're supposed to pump up at acertain time and luckily, like
these competitors to pity on me,they could tell I was just lost
and a couple of guys who gaveit their candy bars and they,
they coached me through it geton on stage, I do my thing and
as you can see it.
But I got two trophies backthere.
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One was third place and thenfifth place overall.
But they talked me intocompeting even with a
30-year-old.
I did the third place for 50and 45 and up and then I got
fifth place overall competingwith 30-year-olds.
I was the oldest person in thecompetition by by almost, uh, 20
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years or almost 15 years, andto me that was just like.
I didn't care about thetrophies, but it was like I said
I was going to do something andI got my body into a, into a
level of fitness that I had notseen, um, probably for quite
some time, even though I wasreally good shape for most of
the most things.
I learned this, but it was kindof my way of going.
I think I could do anything,like I can accomplish anything,
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and so that took the brand to awhole nother level, because,
when you compete, all of asudden I started getting people
reaching out to me like, hey,how do you do that?
I want to do that too, and sowhat we did to get into the what
we do for a living really nowthat kind of costs over this
protocol Right, so I, we showpeople how to utilize this
hormone to basically put theirbody back into homeostasis, to
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get rid of the inflammation, toreverse a lot of the medical
problems that come from obesityor severe inflammation, and get
them back to baseline and thentransition them to into the next
level.
Okay, so, basically, what wedid is that my that we also
realized, though, too, becauseI've been coaching people in the
space for quite some time andthey would lose the weight, and
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I'm going to say lose the weight, but they, whatever you,
whatever you lose your programto find, so they would find the
weight back six months, a yearlater, what have you?
And then we decided that we'renot here to lose weight, we're
here to release the weight.
And to release the weight wehave to also release the
emotional trauma, the limitingbeliefs, that's stuck in your
fat cells.
I have now witnessed that a lotof times.
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People think it's about thefood they eat.
But it's really how you feelabout the food you eat, because
everybody has a person that theyknow that can eat anything they
want and they go that they justhave.
What do you think thedifference between them and you?
They must have a fastmetabolism.
They're just, you know, they'rejust skinny.
Whatever my belief, and what Ithink I've proven with the
clients I've worked with, isthat if you have your your
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friend sally, that is invitingyou to she's, I want you to go
to my pizza.
It's the best pizza I've everhad.
I love this pizza.
I eat it every week.
And you have someone who has aweight problem that thinks pizza
is probably not the thing Ishould be eating if I'm wanting
to get healthy or lose my weight.
So when you and sally go intothe pizza restaurant, or you and
jim go into the pizzarestaurant, you sit down and uh
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and this is like for men, let'ssay you and you and your buddy
jim go to jim's fit and he does.
You think he's just becausehe's got great metabolism.
He works out all the time andyou have a little bit of weight
on you and you both sit down andhave the pizza.
But this is jim's favoritepizza place.
So when jim orders his pizza,he's ordering his favorite
people's pizza with all thetoppings on it.
You're like I'll have whateverhe's having or I'll have
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whatever.
When jim sits down and eats hispizza and he bites into it, he's
like, oh my God, is this likethe best pizza you've ever had?
Like, oh my God, it's the bestpizza.
Jim just loves the pizza.
He's not making stories aboutit Like I shouldn't eat this
pizza.
If I eat this pizza, it's goingto make me fat.
If you start attaching shameand ridicule and judgment to the
food you're eating, what do youthink it does in your body?
Where do you think it goes?
(53:01):
Jim's going.
I love pizza and his body goes.
I love the pizza too.
I know exactly what to do withit.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
I'll take whatever
nutrients I need and I'll get
rid of whatever I don't.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
You over here are
going judgment, shame, ridicule
and judgment, shame.
In my opinion, it stores itsfat.
So when I talk to people and Icoach people, I go.
You think it's about the food.
Now, granted, we live in asociety that our food quality is
not very great.
There's a lot of inflammatorythings in our foods that I would
tell you to stay away from atall costs, and how you feel
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about the food and what you wereraised with make a difference,
and so what we teach people todo is play the outside game,
which is a protocol followingthe protocol, the protocol works
and playing the inside game.
How do you feel and payattention to what you're feeling
, not just when you're eating,but when you're not eating, when
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you're going to the glass ofwine at night or when you're
going to the refrigerator?
What's going on?
What emotion is present in yourbody?
Most people are not cognizantof the actual conscious thoughts
that they're having.
The subconscious mind isrunning the show, and so what
happens is they find themselvesfeeling stressed, or feeling
angry, or feeling sad.
They don't want to feel thoseemotions, so they distract with
(54:17):
something.
It could be video games, itcould be TV, it could be the ice
cream in the refrigerator, itcould be the glass of wine every
night.
So what we do basically in ourcoaching business is that we get
.
We get you, we hold you in whatwe call the greenhouse and I
continue where we watch you,when you check in every day and
we, your life goes through thesame thing, it always goes
through.
But then we start payingattention to what are you
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feeling.
So every one of my clients Idon't care if you're a top
executive or stay home mom,every one of our clients starts
their day coming into ourgreenhouse, going I'll be here.
What feelings in your body,where is it located, what size
is it and what color is it?
But it shows up and then wewant to show you how to.
Again, I want you to move thatenergy to your body, because
emotions are just energy.
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Emotions, feelings are what wemade.
Those emotions mean, made thoseincidences means.
Every time we're going throughan emotional state, it's usually
a memory of something you wentthrough before, between one and
seven.
So that's what we startedteaching people how to do so, be
really, really present withtheir feelings.
And we started realizing peoplestarted releasing weight faster
, because emotional weight inthe body and physical weight.
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They both take up the sameamount of space.
You could be a man this wouldbe, you know, six foot and say
195 pounds.
But if you're holding sadness,grief, shame, guilt, anger that
you're not allowing your body toexpress, when the body's body's
a finite container, when youdon't give it space to move the
energy, what does it have to do?
(55:42):
It's got to expand and expandand expand and expand and expand
.
So people start to realize thatthe body they're looking at is
part of it is abnormal fatstores and visceral fat.
You want to get rid of it.
A lot of it's emotional weightthat you don't know how to get
rid of, and that's what we do.
So that's kind of takes youfull circle, to kind of how
we've gotten to where we are andwhat we do.
(56:03):
And so what I do is I help themget their, get their uh, their
BMI back on their normal, gettheir body back in homeostasis
with our protocol.
And then we just opened up ourtelemedicine division to where
now we can take people ontopeptides and hormones and keep
them balanced, cause most of myclients are, you know, 40 and up
(56:25):
, right, so I have, you know, asold as 71 year olds in my
program and as actually as youngas 35 year olds in my program,
and that's kind of how we dowhat we do if that makes sense,
but that's you know.
There's so many, there'sprobably so many nuances of the
story that I've skipped overbecause it's just I've had a lot
of life, but I gotta tell youthat that that that first day of
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putting my telephone number onthe internet saying I can't sell
this stuff to you but I canhelp you with it, to now being
able to now allow you to getaccess to it at a great rate, to
now coach people all over theworld on how to actually release
weight permanently Um kind offast forward from coming from
building a brand out of nothing,uh other than uh, other than a
desire to kind of help peopleget the same result.
That I did has changed my life,but it's also allowed us to
change thousands of lives in theprocess.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
Wow, that's so cool,
thank you.
Thank you for your story.
I mean it was, I was tied, Iwas on the edge of my seat, I
was, I was seeing myself in alot of the things that have been
.
You you know, like you know,even when you talked about Ed
Milet, you know I was in anoffice with Ed Milet from 2000
to 2009.
Yeah, I mean I saw him everyday, every day, you know.
(57:37):
But then I've had two backsurgeries.
I haven't had seven, but I'vehad two, I know what it?
feels like when they do thesurgery and then it don't work.
And then you, you know, oh man.
But I guess the one thing I'llask and then you know we're
going to have to extend this onanother time, because I want
more of what you're doing, butyour identity, because one of
(57:59):
the things that has beenconstant, no matter how far you
go down, has been constant nomatter how far you go down, you
still are able to pick back up,and that's something that seems
to be a trait with folks thatare super successful.
What would you say to theperson who, I guess, they go
(58:22):
down and then they can't find away to pick themselves up?
What, what advice or what kindof?
Because I don't know what thatis, because I'm the same way.
You know, like 2000 I was inthe mortgage business.
2008 happened, it reallyhappened, and you know, I paid
employees for six more monthsafterwards and continue to do it
.
But I'm good, right, I mean,it's like I just got back up and
say, okay, this is just a blip.
But then there's other people Iknow that are still reeling
(58:46):
from 2008, like we could talkabout it's something that
happened, but it just ithappened.
But they're like, yeah, itdevastated me to the point.
So what, what would be yourthought?
You know, as your coach, you'recoaching all kind of people, so
you gotta have some yeah, yeah,number one.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
I think the number
one belief that I that actually
absolutely believe 100 is thatlife happens for me, not to me.
So if I look at it that way, Iknow that whatever I'm moving
through, even though it doesn'tfeel comfortable right now,
there's a reason for this andthere's something better coming
for me, coming ready to open upfor me.
So if a door closed for me, Iknow another one's being wide
(59:22):
open Now.
It took me, having to see ithappen over and over again, to
believe that.
So if I had to tell somebody,if I tell my son or somebody
that's younger than I am, oreven somebody that's been
knocked down, that just knowthat the knockdown was
intentional and it's to get yourattention.
And you get to open your eyesand open your heart and go okay,
(59:44):
lead me to where you want me togo.
And every time I've been willingto do that, to actually get out
of my own way and say just tellme what you.
But listen, I mean think aboutit.
I went from mortgage broker tofitness guy.
You know, I married.
I married a fitness instructor,right, but it was like that was
like not the thing that I waseven thinking I'd be doing so.
You never know what directionthe world is going to put you in
(01:00:04):
, so I just know that anythingthat happens to me is that it's
happening for me, not to me, andthat knowing and belief system
knows that.
Oh okay, so this is just Godsteering me in a direction
that's not for my highest good,and I think that allows me to be
open to the next thing coming.
Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Congratulations for,
you know, turning your body
around and turning it all around, I mean that's.
You know you don't look likeyou're in your 60s, right,
because you don't feel likeyou're in your 60s.
You don't feel like you're.
You know, you feel better nowthan you did in your 40s.
Oh, I, I just turned 60 lastmonth and I'm like I feel better
(01:00:49):
now than I felt in years andyears and I can't wait for the
rest of my life to continue.
So I want to have, I would loveto have you come back and we're
going to do a part two that wecan schedule it.
But I want to make sure here youtell people how to get a hold
of you, how to get a hold of thethings that you're doing, how
to be able to follow some.
Have you written a book yet?
Cause if you haven't, there's,there's a whole shelf I don't
(01:01:10):
know if I'm pointing the rightdirection a whole shelf that
you've written a book.
I need to read it.
So we need to get you in thebook protocol If you haven't
written it already.
Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
I just read the book
about the protocol called aces
your body for life, uh, and sothat is the book that still show
people how to do this protocol,and I do have a book in the in
the in the works right now aboutthe story that I just broke
down.
Yeah, no, that's what I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
That's what I'm well,
the fact that you've written a
letter to god every day for thelast seven years, yeah, and that
, and what god has done throughyou as a result that that book
itself is that, oh my gosh, oh.
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
I love it If anybody
gets anything from this podcast,
if that's the one thing theysat down and did.
Uh, and really, and don't makeit, don't make it complicated.
Just sit down and describe whatyou're grateful for Anything
you're willing to give up andjust dream.
Dream like you're a five yearold kid.
Don't take, don't put agovernor on what's possible for
you.
Yeah, I would love to walk awaywith that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Yeah, what's so cool
about today?
I mean, I know there's there'san art of when you write in the
way that it transfers.
But you know, I was a specialed kid that said that I wasn't
going to be a rewritewriting,that kind of stuff.
And so now I've written threebooks, but every single book
that I've written is I'mspeaking to the computer, so I'm
able to take my thoughts andthen put them into a spot where
(01:02:34):
now, whatever the AI, whateverthe computer stuff is, you can
now take it and make it legiblefor people.
And so I think about what agreat thing I can literally talk
.
You know, if I'm not a goodwriter and and you know, it
slows down your brain to write.
So I think there's some reallygood things in that.
But if that's something thatthat hinders you from writing it
(01:02:54):
, I'd rather you write it anduse the technology than not
writing at all, because you'reworried about writing, right?
Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Yeah, absolutely.
The technology now has made itavailable for anybody to take
your soul story and put it outto the world without having to
be able to type or write, and so, trust me, I'm using that
technology to this day to makeit happen.
Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
So so, yeah,
absolutely what does typing have
to do with the stuff that goesin your brain?
It'll pay, but don't tell youall day.
Well, I said it in a diaper.
Well, good for you, not me.
I have fine motor skills to beable to do it.
I got other stuff to do with mylife.
So tell us how to get a hold ofyou, how to get a hold of us.
Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Yeah, our brand is
Soul, body, mind, so it's
soulbodymindfitnesscom.
That's where we covereverything the soul, the body
and the mind Right, and then ourtelemedicine vision is
soulbodymindfitcom.
So if they go to any one ofthose things, they can, they can
reach out to us.
They can, uh, you know I'mhappy to talk to anybody.
You know I can say my.
My goal is if I can just pointyou in the right direction.
(01:03:58):
Uh, I love that you did yourseries about reversing diabetes,
especially around our people.
It is like my family died fromthat disease right Early, and so
that's one of the main reasonswhy I'm in this.
Doing what I do is to tellpeople that they don't like.
You talked about 60s.
These are the best years of ourlife and we were actually
(01:04:18):
designed to live to be well overa hundred, and it's never too
late to start reversing thosethings now.
So, absolutely yeah, so, andit's never too late to start
reversing those things now.
So, absolutely yeah.
So, soulbodymindfitcom orsoulbodymindfitnesscom, I'll be
there to help you guys If youhave any questions.
It'd be great, and thank you somuch, dr B, for this platform.
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Absolutely, and thank
you for being on.
And again, the website issoulbodymind.
You need to go to itSoulBodyMindFitnesscom.
The company is SoulBodyMind.
Soulbodymindfitcom.
Fitnesscom, fitness.
Absolutely, get on there.
We'll put the links on.
He's going to come back, sojust got to hang on.
(01:04:53):
That's the suspense that I'mputting out here right now.
I'm telling you I'm going tohave Colin Watson back on our
podcast and we're just going tomore, because there's so many
gems.
I hope you go back and listen tohis story because there's so
many things that we could followthat could change your life,
(01:05:14):
especially if you're goingthrough something right now,
because he gave you exampleafter example after example,
when things didn't go right butGod was still working on him.
Things didn't go the way thathe expected to, but God had
showed him a way, still wentthrough this great life that he
had had to lose it and came backand now he's in a better place
than he's ever been in his lifeand there's so many clues and
(01:05:34):
paths I mean you know TonyRobbins talks about successfully
clues all the time and thereare so many clues in this
journey and so thank you forbeing on, go ahead and subscribe
and notifications and all thosethings.
You're going to need to putnotification if you're going to
know when we're going to talkabout this again.
We'll get this out, you know,so that you know we're going to
have a conversation and I can'twait to see more.
I can't wait to come out toCalifornia.
Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
I'm coming over your
house, so I'm going to be live.
Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
We're going to come,
we're going to go, go sit out
and look at the beach together.
I just invited myself, so itdoesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
I love that.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
It's going to be so
cool to spend some time, because
I know I have a friend, notonly in the God, but I have a
friend that helps other folksmake a difference.
Hey, so, if you are ready tolet you know that God, your
God's greatest gift, he lovesyou, if you allow him to, and my
goal is that you allow him tolove you in a way that you can
achieve and do the things thatyou were put on this earth to do
(01:06:31):
as you deserve it.
And so we'll talk to you on thenext one.
Have this amazing, incredibleday today and we'll see you on
the next.
I'm out.