April 7, 2025 • 59 mins
How do you bridge the gap between who you are now and who you could become? Myron Golden, from walking with a brace due to childhood polio to becoming one of the world's most sought-after business strategists, reveals the transformative "Be, Do, Have" principle that changed his life.
"Most frustration in people's lives comes from the disparity between being and doing, or doing and having," Myron explains. "They desire to have something they haven't done anything to deserve, or attempt to do something they haven't become the person who can do it."
This incredible conversation unpacks how most of us operate from a "lie-dentity"—becoming more familiar with who we aren't than who we truly are. Myron breaks down the step-by-step transformation process: awareness leading to intention, followed by decision (literally "to cut off" all other possibilities), strengthened through discipline, acknowledged through recognition, and finally celebrated properly.
Particularly powerful is Myron's insight on maintaining discipline. Rather than just visualizing positive outcomes, he emphasizes the importance of vividly understanding the negative consequences of not changing. "Most people have this Pollyanna picture of how good life's going to be when they achieve their goals, but they don't have a clear picture of how terrible life will be if they don't make these hard choices right now."
Whether you're struggling with self-discipline, feeling victimized by circumstances, or simply seeking to elevate your business results, this episode delivers practical wisdom about how identity shapes activity, which determines what we ultimately possess. The journey to freedom begins with understanding who you truly are.
Subscribe now and discover how to fill the gap in your identity with intentionality and the gap in your activity with ingenuity. Your transformation awaits!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The only way to fill the gap in my identity is with
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intentionality.
That's where most of thetension and stress of people's
lives come from in the disparitybetween being and doing and the
disparity between doing andhaving.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
All right, welcome to another edition to the Journey
to Freedom podcast.
I am Dr B, I'm your host today,and today is an exciting,
special episode.
It's my first episode everworking with somebody who has
over 1 million subscribers.
Working with somebody who hasover 1 million subscribers.
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And so Myron hit that just inthe last few months and it has
just been just so fun watchingthe progress over the last three
years.
You know, I think he was acouple hundred thousand, maybe
300,000, when I started watchinghim and just to watch it
progress over time.
You know, myron, I don't know.
First I just watched a videowith you and Omar and at the
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beginning of Omar, omar said Iwant to thank you for helping me
make a million dollars.
Now I'm not there yet, but I'mthanking you in advance because
I know it's going to happen.
But what I do want to thank youfor is the fact that you've
made me a better man.
You have made me.
You know I have taken thethings that I've learned.
I just turned 60 last month, soI just had a birthday, thank
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you, and I am so much betterover the last three years than I
ever was, and I kind ofidentify a lot with you because
we're kind of in that same era.
You know like I literallywatched a episode of the Six
Million Dollar man last night.
It was awesome, so yeah, and Ithink of the times when you
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talked about Mr Ed and all thatkind of stuff, and so what's
kind of cool is Journey toFreedom came out of.
I went to this trust seminar guy, dave Horsager.
Dave Horsager, and he had aseminar where he was talking
about trust, leadership and howimportant trust is.
And I look around the room andI've said to myself, being a
black man in America, you knowthat's great, but it's not
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defined me, it's not the mostimportant thing, it's not.
I don't count, but I literallycounted, like we do sometimes,
how many folks of color were inthe room and there was like 30
of us out of 500.
And I was wondering why, and Iwas.
And I came back and I startedpraying about it and God said I
kind of want to work.
Have you work with you know,you know folks of color.
He said specifically black men.
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I said I don't know if that'swhat I want to be, but I'll be
obedient to it.
And so Journey to Freedom ispart of a coaching program and
thing that I, that I created asa result of just interviewing,
I've now done one hundred andfifty, over one hundred and
fifty episodes of success forblack men and now I'm starting
to do black women and stuff.
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And so part of it came because Iwent to the Make More Offers
Challenge with you and I asked,I asked for a question.
I said, will you be on mypodcast?
And you say, wait a minute,because I think I was about 30
episodes.
And you said, well, when youhit 50 episodes then we can talk
about it.
So I went back to work.
I said I'm going to go do 50episodes.
So I got to 50 episodes and Isaid he's not going to believe
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me.
I'm going to fly out to Floridaand I'm going to show up and
I'm going to let him know that Idid 50 episodes.
So I got there you said, hey,meet with Larry, get some things
.
But I didn't stop.
So between the time I was inFlorida last year now I've done
over another hundred episodes.
I'm just going.
This has just been such anincredible journey to be able to
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do that.
But you've helped me becauseyou said do this and I did it.
You know you said, hey, youneed to have a book.
So I wrote three.
So I just finished my thirdbook this weekend.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I just keep moving forward as a result of the
things that you're teaching me,and so usually in this podcast,
I start out and just I want youto tell your story.
You know however you want, andthen I'll add in I was, I was
just telling Myron before westarted.
I've watched at least a thousandhours of his, so I believe like
he doesn't know me very well,but I know Myron Goldman because
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he.
One of the things you've doneis you've been vulnerable enough
to spend the time onlinesharing who you are with all of
us, and without that I don'tthink I'm the man that I should
be, or without that I don'tthink I could grow the way you
helped me be able to grow,because you are willing to not
just say all these things thatyou can do, like programs and be
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a better business strategistand coaching, but you also talk
about your life.
You talk about who you are, youtalk about bringing growing
life.
You talk about who you, youtalk about bringing growing up.
You talk about you're assessingthe trees right now.
So I understand all of thatright now and I can't wait to
spend more time with you, butI'd love for you to kind of just
start out.
Tell the part of your storythat you want to share.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, so my name is Myron Golden.
I'm the second of sevenbrothers.
My parents were veryhardworking people James and
Caroline Golden and I give them,so it's just.
It's just.
What they did was remarkable,and so I um, I had polio as an
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infant because I was born in asegregated hospital and
contracted polio as an infant.
So that was a major impact onmy life, cause I walk with a
brace on my leg, uh, walk with alimp that I don't notice unless
I see myself walking past themirror or past the glass door
that has a reflection, but otherpeople notice, and so when I
was a kid I couldn't run, soother kids made fun of me, blah,
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blah, blah, and I just thinkall of that stuff made me
stronger because I believe thateverything that happens to you
happens for you.
I'm one of those people who didwell in school all the way
through the third grade and itwent downhill from there.
I liked the 10th grade so muchI took it twice and managed to
graduate second in my class fromhigh school it was a class of
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two.
My little brother was thevaledictorian and now you know
the rest of the story but wentoff to college, met this
beautiful girl wrote her a bunchof poems.
She finally married me afterthree years and we proceeded to
struggle even more than I wasstruggling by myself.
But we had a dream and westarted working towards that
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dream.
I got recruited into sellingfinancial services of insurance
and investments through anetwork marketing company and
when I did, I really worked thatbusiness like my life depended
on it.
I was terrible at selling, Iwas terrible at leadership, I
was terrible at business, but Iwas learning some new skills
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that would take my life into astratosphere that I didn't know
existed.
And so here we are, some almost40 years later, like 38 years
after that whole thing, andwe've made millions of dollars,
lost millions of dollars, gonethrough incredible ups and just
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absolutely heart-wrenching lows.
And now we have a business thatis doing quite well and we
impact entrepreneurs all overthe world.
In fact, we're in the middle ofa Make More Offers Challenge
right now and I don't know wehave I don't know 350, 370
people.
I didn't look this morning, Ilooked yesterday, it was like
330 something.
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So I'm sure it's 350, 370, 380,might be 400, because we
usually sell the most ticketsthe last day.
And so we're here and I teachentrepreneurs how to scale their
businesses.
I teach high levelentrepreneurs how to create,
convey and convert premium valueoffers faster and better than
any coach in the world.
In fact, while other coachesare doing their best to help
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their clients make six and sevenfigures a year, I'm actually
helping my clients do six andseven figure days.
So that's what we do.
I've written some books, I dosome coaching.
I'm always in learning mode andI have a YouTube channel that
we create.
I have a YouTube channel forbusiness, which is my name,
myron Golden, and I have aYouTube channel for Bible study,
which is Bible study with MyronGolden.
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So that's that's.
I mean, I've been married forit'll be 40 years this year and,
um, I have my.
I have my son, who works withme in my business.
My daughter works with me in mybusiness.
We have one my wife and I haveone son in heaven, and, um, and
now we just, you know we'rewe're, by the grace of God,
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doing our best to have an impactand bless people's lives in as
many ways as we can.
So that's pretty much my story.
I don't know if I didn't tellsomething you wanted me to share
or did.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's that's how I think, yeah, no, there's so many
like nuances in your story andthat helps you, I guess, explain
a story like you know youtalked about.
You know, one of my favoriteones is when you know your dad
says that the bolt's not goingto beat you guys because of the
you know you have a brain andyou have a brain and you know.
So that's that's all thoselessons yeah, well, what I found
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, which is which is really kindof cool, is that there are, you
know, several things that youtalk about that you don't mind
repeating over and over and overagain, like you've got like 15
different things and I've kindof been writing they are.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, they are.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Believe me, I could go through them, whether it's
the law of entropy, the law ofenergy, like you said, genesis,
chapter one, all the things thathappen in Genesis, the law of
creation, the four levels ofvalue, and so this is what's
amazing, because I think that mybrain is like part Myron Golden
now and, as a result, I'mwatching.
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I'm watching, I'm doing mynightly post and my wife has a
show on and the first thing thathappens in the show is the
richest guy on the show that I'mwatching, so Harrison Ford
thing.
He is like the worst guy ever.
Right, they paint him to be themost evil character in life and
you talk about that a lot.
Then this is what I really kindof knew.
(10:25):
He starts talking, he gets witha group of people and it's like
in the 1920s and he says, okay,now that we have, you know,
indoor plumbing and faucets work, we have heat that's coming in.
He says no, no longer do peoplehave to work with their hands,
they have to use imagination.
People have to work with theirhands.
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They have to use imagination.
And I went four values, youknow, right there, cause he
literally jumped from.
You know, he jumped from usingyour hands.
Implementation forgotunification, did talk about
communication, cause he met witha group of men and, instead of
him just telling them what hewanted to do, he said I'm
investing this, are you willingto invest?
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So then it talks about when youtalk about people who get
nonprofits and getting people.
And then, finally, the partthat just super blew me away is
there's another guy he's workingwith and they said in order for
you to have something, we haveto take it from somebody.
And the wife says, well, takeenough of it that they have to
take it from somebody.
And the wife says we'll takeenough of it that they can't
take it back.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, it isjust.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It, just hollywood, just, they messed us up, right
perpetuating the the idea of thezero-sum game, which is not
real so what?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
what do these?
What do you think is thefavorite?
Is the ball value your favoriteto talk about?
Or what well you know of your,your things that you love to
talk about all the time?
Which is the one that you thinkmakes the most impact, or your
favorite to?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
My favorite thing to talk about is be, do, have.
It's like the fundamental,foundational principle of
success Be, do have, god said.
The very first thing God saidto a human being this might make
it relatively important is befruitful, do multiply, do
replenish, do subdue and havedominion.
Be, do, do, do, have, be, dohave.
There is like people desire.
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Most frustration that peoplehave in their lives is either in
the tension between be and door the tension between do and
have.
Is either in the tensionbetween be and do or the tension
between do and have.
They desire to have somethingthat they haven't done anything
to deserve, or they areattempting to do something that
they've not become the personwho can do it.
That's where most of thetension and stress of people's
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lives come from in the disparitybetween being and doing and the
disparity between doing andhaving Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So, as I was just thinking about this, you know
when you say can't be, can't do,can't have, Right.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Be a little, be a little, do a little, have a
little, be a lot, do a lot, havea lot.
It also means don't be, can'tdo, can't do, can't have.
Like nobody's going tocircumvent.
Be, do have.
It's the first principle ofsuccess Be, do, have.
And what's really interestingabout that is being speaks to
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our identity.
I have to become the person.
Being speaks to my identity.
My identity is who I am.
Now here's the problem.
Most people have a phantomidentity.
What I mean by that is theydon't know who they are and they
don't know who they are basedon, whose they are, because
they're more in tune with what Icall their lie-dentity than
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they are their identity.
And what's their lie-dentity?
Their lie-dentity is all thethings all the people in their
lives told them all their lives.
They are not.
You're not smart enough, you'renot tall enough, you're not
educated enough, you're not goodenough, you're not rich enough,
you're not handsome enough,you're not beautiful enough, you
can't dance good enough, youcan't sing good enough, you
can't run fast enough, you can'tfight tough enough.
Who you are is not enough.
That is your in tune with theirlie-dentity than they are with
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their identity.
So they are more familiar withwho they aren't than they are
familiar with who they are.
So B speaks to your identity.
And then what people do toattempt to overcome what I call
the lie-dentity is they createwhat I call the my-dentity.
And the my-dentity is also afake identity, except instead of
one that other people give toyou, it's one you create for
yourself, to prove to the peoplewho gave you the lie identity
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that their lie identity is notaccurate.
Right, but it's all your lieidentity.
Your my identity is not who youare either, because you don't
create your identity any morethan a baby creates itself.
You get your identity from theone that created you, and so I
have to get my identity from theultimate identity, and the
ultimate identity is the I amthat I am, and so, if you think
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about that, I am that I am.
That's a statement.
We just had a sound panel falloff the wall.
That was fascinating.
It's okay, I'm sure you canedit that part out.
So so my identity is like Ihave to.
I have to understand that I amonly who God says I am.
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Now, if there, if there's adisparity or there's dissidence
between who God says I am andwho I think I am God is not the
problem who God says I am andwho I think I am.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
God is not the problem.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Right, I'm the problem, and the phrase I am is
a present statement, and ashuman beings we really have a
hard time dealing with thepresent.
We have a hard time.
People say be present, but wedon't even know how to do that.
Like, because being present inthe arena of time is very
challenging.
Why?
Because as soon as I say now,it becomes then.
So in our experience of life wehave two periods of time we
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have now and we have then.
So we have the past and we havethe future, but we don't know
how to experience the present.
But God operates in time, buthe exists outside of time.
He exists in eternity, andeternity is the forever now.
So that's why God is the I am,that I am, and not the I was,
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that I was, or the I will be,that I will be, because eternity
is the forever now.
Well, if you think about that,I am are the two most powerful
words that exist.
So what if thou shalt not takethe name of the Lord, thy God,
in vain?
What if that means?
Because vain means emptiness,nothingness.
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What if it means you take God'sname and attach it to something
that perpetuates lack?
For instance, you say I am poor, so now you're taking your
limitation and you're infusingit with the power of eternity.
What if you say I am so stupid?
You're taking your limitationand you're infusing it with the
power of eternity.
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What if you say I am such anidiot?
What if that's what it reallymeans to take God's name in vain
?
You take the most powerful namethat exists and you empty it of
all its power.
I'm not saying that's what itmeans, but I'm just saying what
if that is what it means?
Oh my gosh.
That's why this is.
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That's why this is my favoritething to talk about, because
being speaks to my identity, butdoing speaks to my activity.
Well, most people think that ifthey're not succeeding, the
thing to do is to try harder.
I believe Right.
Do more of what's already notproven to not work.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Right For frustration and beingexhausted, right.
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But what if the real secret totransformation was if you don't
like the output, change theinput, right?
Well, the input for activity isidentity.
Identity is the input, activityis the output.
So, if you don't like whatyou're doing and you'd like to
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do more, then go change theinput and become more, because
doing speaks.
Being speaks to my identity,but doing speaks to my activity.
Now there's a gap in my identity.
There's a gap in my, there's agap in everybody's identity.
There's the gap between who Iam right now and who I have the
potential of becoming, becausepotential is the difference
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between who I am and who I couldbe.
Potential is the differencebetween what I'm doing and what
I could be doing.
Potential is the differencebetween who I am and who I could
be.
Potential is the differencebetween what I'm doing and what
I could be doing.
Potential is the differencebetween what I have and what I
could have.
Right, and so, as I'm goingthrough my life and I'm
experiencing life and I've gotthis gap in my identity, I have
the potential to be this, butI'm only this.
How do I fill the gap in myidentity?
That's the question.
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How do I fill the gap?
Huh, identity, that's thequestion.
How do I fill the gap?
Huh, how do I fill the gap inmy identity?
That's a great question, isn'tthat a great question?
How do I fill the gap in myidentity?
Like I could say I don't know.
Could I fill it with water?
No, that's not it.
No, how can I fill the gap inmy identity, like the difference
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between who I am and who Icould be?
The only way to fill the gap inmy identity is with
intentionality.
I have to be hyper intentionalabout becoming more.
Think about this.
I have to hyper-intentionalabout becoming more.
Have you ever thought about thefact that, in order to improve
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in life, it requires two thingsenergy and intention.
Right, you're not going toimprove with, you're not going
to accidentally improve longterm.
That's not going to happen.
No, you're not going to donothing and improve.
So it requires energy andintention which creates directed
, right, you're, you're takingyour, your energy and you're
directing it intentionally at anoutcome.
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Right, ok, cool.
So if that's the case, that Ifeel like progress, improvement,
can only be created throughenergy and intention, do you not
find it fascinating?
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You probably do.
I find it fascinating that, inorder for me to improve, it
requires intention and energy.
But in order for me to getworse, in order for me to
digress, it only requiresneglect.
It requires no intention.
I don't have to intend to doworse, I don't have to try to do
worse.
All I have to do is not intendto get better and I will
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automatically get worse.
I don't have to.
I'm going to make myself sick.
I don't have to make myselfsick.
All I have to do is not focuson making myself healthy.
Yeah, I don't have to makemyself poor.
I don't have to make myselfspend money.
I have to do is not focus oncreating wealth.
So progress requires intention.
Digression only requiresneglect.
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So I fill the gap in my identitywith intentionality.
I become hyperintentional aboutwhat Always be becoming more,
more than what, more than I'vebeen being.
If I'm always becoming morethan I've been being, then I am
being hyperintentional with mylife.
Okay, so that's the gap in myidentity, but guess what Myal
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with my life?
Okay, so that's the gap in myidentity, but guess what?
My identity creates my activity.
I am, therefore I do.
I am who I am, therefore I dowhat I do.
Well, if I'm going to havebetter activity, I have to own a
better identity.
So how do I fill the gap in myactivity?
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Because there's a differencebetween what I'm doing and what
I could be doing.
So if I use intentionality tofill the gap in my identity,
what do I use to fill the gap inmy activity?
I use ingenuity.
I keep on coming up with a newapproach until I find one that's
my eureka moment.
Almost never is our eurekamoment found on the first
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attempt.
Almost never, why?
Because if I find my eurekamoment on the first attempt,
then seeking that eureka momentdoesn't turn me into a better
person.
So, even though activity is theoutput of identity, which is
the input, my activity, which isthe output, also affects the
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input, which is identity.
So my activity can have aneffect on my identity.
Sometimes I will discover who Iam After I've already become
the person.
I will discover that I'vebecome that person because of
something I've done okay okay,and then?
so identity is the input,activity is the output, but
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activity is also an input.
Activity is the output ofidentity, but it's the input for
property.
So b speaks to my identity.
Do speaks to my activity.
B speaks to my identity.
Do speaks to my activity.
Have speaks to my property.
Well, guess what?
My activity produces myproperty.
See, covetousness is not thedesire for more property.
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Covetousness is the desire forproperty that I am unwilling to
do the right thing in order forme to deserve to have it.
I desire something that I don'tdeserve.
That's covetousness.
So why do I have less than Icould have?
Well, because my activityhasn't produced more.
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Well, why hasn't my activityproduced more?
Because my identity, who Ithink I am, won't let it.
So being speaks to my identity.
Doing speaks to my activity.
Having speaks to my property.
This is my favorite principle ofall principles that I've ever
learned in my life, because,first and foremost, it's the
first one God ever spoke to aman Be, do have.
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Being is the root system of thetree.
Doing is the root system of thetree.
Doing is the shoot system, thetrunk of the branches.
Having is the fruit system.
It's the fruits.
Wow, and, by the way, this is apattern that keeps repeating
over and over in different ways,but when we get it we're like
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okay, if I don't like the fruit,don't paint it, change the root
.
Painting an orange red doesn'tturn it into an apple no, oh my
gosh.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
but, and when I wrote , you know, as I think of our
culture and I know you would sayI can speak as a black man
because I is one, and you know.
And so I start thinking aboutthe things that we blame, those
contributing factors that weblame on the reason our identity
isn't what our identity shouldbe.
Right, because we think thatall these external factors are
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the things that you know who weare like, who our mama told us
we were were, who are, you knowthe folks that we hung around,
or I didn't have a dad when Iwas growing up, or how do we get
that identity to not live inthis world where we think
everything is against us andthat becomes our identity, so
that means it stops our activity, right?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
we.
We have to have, we have tohave heralds, prophets and when
I say prophets, I'm not talkingabout in the prophets, I'm not
talking about in the OldTestament, I'm not talking about
in the foresight prophets, I'mtalking about foretelling
prophets, people who are willingto proclaim the truth right.
We need people to tell us, weneed somebody to increase our
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awareness.
If I'm going to go from being avictim of the circumstances of
my life to being a victorthrough the circumstances of my
life, someone is going to haveto tell me the truth that
negates the lie that I believe.
It's going to wake me up out ofmy victimhood slumber, because
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I can't.
Nobody else can make me avictim.
People can attempt to victimizeme, but no one can make me a
victim but me.
I had polio as an infant.
I walk with a brace on my leg.
It's the direct result ofracism, segregation and
discrimination.
Me walking with a brace on myleg is the direct result of that
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.
So nobody's going to tell methat I don't understand.
I do understand.
I just also understand that Iam not a victim of that.
It is just a part of myassignment and it's the law of
polarity says for every actionthere's an equal and opposite
reaction.
Right For every action there'san equal and opposite reaction.
So it's impossible to havesomething quote bad happen to
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you without it bringing alongsomething equally as good.
It's impossible to havesomething negative without it
bringing along something equallyas positive.
It's impossible to havesomething that's damaging in
your life without it bringingalong right with it something
equally dynamic.
And so what I've got to do,I've got to learn to do.
If I'm going to be on thisjourney to freedom and enter
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this level of freedom, I've gotto learn how to say, I've got to
learn how to walk around to theother side of my circumstance
and look at the other side ofthat coin.
Because I think of a biblicalexample of this, when Pharaoh
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called Jacob and said sir, howold are you, sir?
Now here's what happened toJacob, his sons.
He didn't know this is whathappened, but his sons took
their youngest son and threw himin a pit.
And then some people came andtook him out of the pit and sold
him into slavery.
They went back and told theirdad that his son was dead.
So he was separated from hisson.
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When his son was a child, hethought his son was dead.
He ran away from his brotherbecause his brother wanted to
kill him.
He worked hard for seven yearsfor this woman and her father
tricked him and gave him thatgirl's sister.
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And then he worked seven moreyears for the girl he actually
wanted.
And so he went through all ofthese different circumstances
and then there's a famine in theland land and they go to Egypt
to get some food.
And he's got, he's down, hissons are down there, and then
the prime minister said we'regoing to keep one of y'all and
then go tell your, you bringyour family, and then I'll let
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this other brother go.
And so Pharaoh asked Jacob howold he was.
And here's what Jacob said.
He said few and evil have beenthe days of the life of my
pilgrimage.
Few and evil, really.
Now guess who else had thosesame exact circumstances?
For the most part His son,joseph, the one they actually
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threw in the pit, who actuallygot sold into slavery.
And Joseph went down and was aslave in Potiphar's house.
Potiphar's wife tried to seducehim.
It didn't work.
She lied on him.
He went to prison for a slavein Potiphar's house.
Potiphar's wife tried to seducehim.
It didn't work, she lied on him.
He went to prison for a crimehe didn't commit and he stayed
in prison until the perfect time.
Good thing he didn't have agoal to get out.
Anyway, that's anotherconversation for a different day
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.
And and Joseph named his twosons, ephraim and Manasseh.
What do those names mean?
What Ephraim and Manasseh mean?
One of them means God has causedme not to remember the labor
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and the toil in my father'shouse, in other words, the fact
that I had all this traumagrowing up in my family.
God had made me forget my trauma.
His other son.
His name means and I don'tremember which one is which, but
his name means God has made mefruitful in the land of my
affliction.
So one of the people who wentthrough the experiences few and
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evil have been the days of thelife of my pilgrimage.
The other person who wentthrough the experiences few and
evil have been the days of thelife of my pilgrimage.
The other person who wentthrough the same thing said God
has made me to forget the toiland the hardship in my father's
house and has made me fruitfulin the land of my affliction.
So what is that?
Neither one of them werevictims, neither one of them
were impacted by thecircumstance as much as they
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were impacted by theirperspective.
Most people who think they're aprisoner of circumstance are
actually a prisoner of theirperspective, of what they
believe that circumstance means.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
All the things that have been happened to them.
They're the way that theylooked at it.
Yeah, decided is this is whathappened to me and it's a bad
thing, and they can look at it.
I think one of the things thatyou talk about a lot is no
matter what is in the future,whatever outcome is in the
future that we're perceiving itto be, we made it up because oh,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Anything I tell myself about a future outcome, I
made it up.
If I say I'm going home thisafternoon when I leave work, I
don't know that I'm going home.
I know that I'm going to headin the direction of home.
That's my intention.
I could literally trip over thecurb on my way out the door,
fall down, hit my head on thesidewalk and end up in the
hospital for the rest of the day.
God forbid that that shouldhappen, but that possibility
exists.
So when I say I'm going home, Iliterally made that up.
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So I'm going to drink, I'mgoing to take a drink of water.
I could.
That water could go down mywindpipe and I could literally
like drown right here in abottle of water.
But we don't.
We don't say I'm going toattempt.
I'm going to try to go home andhope that I don't trip over the
curb and bump my head on thesidewalk and end up in the
hospital.
And I'm going to hope that theydon't give me the wrong drugs
for the wrong injury.
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And I'm going to hope thatwhile I'm driving home, that I
don't get hit by a truck.
We don't do that.
We don't throw up all thecontingencies around things that
don't matter.
Well, here's my question whydon't we throw up all these
contingencies around things thatdo Well, I'm going to try to
build a business.
We don't say I'm going to tryto go eat dinner, when the
reality is we made both of themup.
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Why don't we just decide we'regoing to go do what we're going
to go do?
And so, anyway, I've ranted fora long time, but now I think
you can see why be do have is myfavorite principle and why,
like I believe it's interesting.
You asked me about.
You asked me about like is myfavorite principle and why, like
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I believe it's interesting.
You asked me about.
You asked me about like how canwe break free of this idea of
the fact we're a victim?
It's so fascinating.
Like.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I'm thinking about the Trump tariffs right now,
right?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
So you look at the Trump tariffs.
People are all bent out ofshape and you have people oh,
the tariffs are great becauseall we're doing is reciprocal
tariffs to the people who'vebeen giving us tariffs all along
.
Other people are like no, youcan't do it that way because we
have way more people than theyhave and so therefore it's not
equitable.
Blah, blah, blah.
And then you have the peoplewho are like Donald Trump is
like he's like we want to make.
The reason I'm making thesetariffs is so we can make
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America a manufacturing nationagain.
Well, all that sounds, all oftheir arguments sound great.
Here's what I'm going to sayabout the whole argument of
making America a manufacturingnation again.
Where are we going to findworkers?
Because we can't even findpeople who want to do work.
That's not manufacturing work.
Like good help is hard to find.
Attempting to turn America.
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In my opinion, regardless ofwhat you think about President
Trump, whether you think he'sgreat or whether you think he's
terrible, I happen to like himpersonally.
I happen to think that he'sreally, really the best thing
that's happened to our countryin a while.
As far as the president'sconcerned which a lot of people
disagree with me, but that'sfine too.
Like I could be wrong.
I don't think I am, but I couldbe.
But I think his idea abouttariffs bringing manufacturing
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back to America is like fightingto raise minimum wage.
What you're doing is you'resaying let's elevate the bottom
to make it easier for people whoare unwilling to develop
themselves.
Why do you want to make Americaa manufacturing nation when
America is advanced to the pointwhere you no longer need to be
a manufacturing nation?
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We can manufacture stuffcheaper somewhere else and teach
our people to learn new skillsthat will serve them better than
learning how to drive aforklift Not that there's
anything wrong with driving aforklift.
We're emphasizing the wrongthing.
When you emphasize raisingminimum wage.
You're inferring to the peoplethat you're raising a minimum
wage for that.
You need to stay here for therest of your life.
So I'm going to make youcomfortable.
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Don't be a victim of therhetoric, anyway.
Don't be a victim of therhetoric.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Anyway, those are some of my yeah.
No, I so appreciate that.
One of the things that I know,that you know, at least when I
think of.
You know I grew up and theytold me I was a special ed kid
and that I had to, you know,attend special ed classes.
And you know I went to a whitehigh school, predominantly white
.
There's 3,000 students and 30of us were folks of color and 20
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of the 30 of us were all inspecial ed class.
So you know that could havebeen the circumstances.
That was a pretty good.
I didn't realize it till laterin life, but I think, like the
things that you were able to doas a result of polio and having
this incredible memory and youknow, despite those
circumstances that werehappening and I don't even know
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if it's more of a memory or arecall, but one of the things
that I say to myself well, Idon't have this tremendous
recall, but I have technologyand other things that can help
me be able to do it.
What would you say?
You know just your ability todo a poem or your ability to be
able to speak or communicatebetter.
I believe you've worked on that, and some of us don't even work
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on any of those things.
What, what do you attribute toyou?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
know to be able to have.
That.
I believe I.
I I'm going to agree with Jimquick with regard to this.
So I believe that memory andrecall are muscles.
Okay, like muscles, the moreyou work on them, the stronger
they get.
People say I don't have a goodmemory.
Everybody has a good memory.
Everybody remembers everythingthey've ever heard, everything
they've ever seen, everythingthey've ever done.
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They just don't have a goodsystem for recall.
Okay, so, if you do, and sofirst, like, if somebody's going
to have better recall recall,the first thing I have to do is
stop telling themselves theydon't have a good memory, like
because we're if, if, like I sayto people every now and then
congratulations, if you fightfor your limitations, you get to
keep them so why would I say Ihave a?
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bad memory.
I don't have a bad memory.
I have a great memory.
I have an ironclad memory.
My memory is like rock solidand and I have a great recall
system.
Like people say, I'm terrible atremembering names.
No, you're terrible at payingattention when people are
telling you their name, becauseyou're thinking about the thing
you want to say next.
Like, I have a system forremembering people's names.
You know what it's called.
When they're telling me theirname, I'm actually listening.
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Right, that'll change the game.
Number two I will repeat theirname to them and I'll usually
ask one or two questions.
Somebody tells me their name.
I'll say, wow, nice to meet you.
Let's say nice to meet you, bob.
How do you spell that?
Right, b-o-b, right, b-o-b.
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Now, one of the things I learnedin signing books regardless of
what the person's name is,always ask them how to spell it,
because you are going to getsome people with some names we
would call normal names thathave some very unusual spellings
.
Okay, so the first thing I'mgoing to do I know somebody
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named Karen C-A-R-Y-N.
Right, wow, exactly.
So when somebody tells me theirname, don't in communication.
I love what my daughter says.
She says the biggest mistake incommunication is thinking that
it happened.
One of the reasons we make themistake of thinking that
communication happened isbecause we assume that we know
what people mean.
We don't ask them what theymean and we assume people know
what we mean.
We don't ask them what theymean and we assume people know
what we mean and we don't say itclearly.
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So when somebody's introducingthemselves, I say, well, that's
an interesting name, how do youspell that?
And then they'll tell me, andI'll say so are you named after
someone?
Well, I'm actually named aftermy grandfather on my mother's
side, and they called him Robert, and then they called him Bob,
my dad's Robert Jr.
I'm Bob, the third, and so theyjust call me B3, right.
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So now their name is no longerjust a word, it's actually a
story and our minds are designedto remember stories, like if I
say David and Goliath see, Ididn't.
Now how do you rememberGoliath's name?
You've never met Goliath.
See, I didn't.
Now how do you rememberGoliath's name?
You've never met Goliath,you've never even met David.
But when I say David and yousay the first thing that comes
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to your mind is Goliath.
You didn't say David andBathsheba.
You didn't say David andSolomon, you didn't say David
and Joab, you said David.
You didn't even say David andJesse, or David and Eliab, his
brothers or his father, you saidDavid and Goliath.
Why?
Because our minds are.
God made our minds to rememberstories, right?
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So if you can get somebody toengage in a story about their
name I mean I can think of awhole bunch of other questions I
can just ask somebody abouttheir name so I never forget it.
So did you ever hate your nameor have you always loved your
name?
And then they'll tell me.
I'll say, have people evermispronounced your name?
And if they have mispronouncedyour name, what other things
have they called you?
I know for me they've called meMarion, malcolm, miriam, melvin
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, marvin, milton.
I've been called everything butMyron.
I mean, bro, you add in allkinds of letters that don't even
exist.
So has anybody evermispronounced your name?
What are some of themispronunciations of your name
that you've heard, right?
So have you ever met anybodyelse with your name?
Or, if they have a popular name, do you regret having a popular
name that so many people have?
Are you glad you have a popularname that's easy to remember
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and easy to spell, like you canliterally sit there and ask
people a whole bunch ofquestions about their name, and
so now you spend a bunch of timewith them on their name.
How are you going to forgettheir name?
Now it's a story, you know howto spell it, you have all this
information, so now thatperson's story becomes a part of
your story.
It's not just a word that'sdisconnected from context, so
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does that make that helpful?
Oh yeah, super super helpful.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
You brought up intention before and and I know
that my other favorite subjectyeah.
So you brought up attentionbecause you know, I think of you
, know the just the fact thatyou now somebody wants to do it
your business strategist, youhelp people acquire money and a
lot of people are afraid of yourmoney anyways.
They got this bad relationshipwith money.
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But as an intention, I knowthat.
Okay, now I'm ready to start.
There's probably going to besome kind of disruption that's
going to hit me and I don't knowwhat that is.
But what are some things that Ihave to do with me to become
the person that can be withintention and now, hey, I want
to do it, I'm going to do it, Itold you I'm going to do it and
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then they don't do it.
What are some things that wecan do now that we in our minds,
we have intention, but toreally make it happen, so all
transformation begins withawareness.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
So, if you think about transformation,
transformation means there'ssomething I'd like to become,
there's someone I'd like tobecome, but I'm not already.
There's something I'd like tobecome.
There's someone I'd like tobecome that I'm not already.
There's something I'd like todo that I can't do already.
There's something I like tohave that I can't have already,
okay, great.
So if I'm going to transformfrom who I am to who I'd like to
become, from what I can do whatI can't do to what I'd like to
be able to do, from what I don'thave to what I'd like to have,
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then I've got to transform.
And the first thing that has totransform is my identity.
So how does transformationhappen?
All transformation begins withawareness, okay.
So it begins.
So I become aware that there issomething that's more desirable
.
Whatever that is, it doesn'tmatter, and I'll give you a
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perfect example of this in aminute.
After I'm done saying so, I, oh, there's something that's more
desirable, okay.
So after awareness, the nextstep is intention.
I have to intend to step intomy new awareness, okay, but if
I'm going to intend to, I've gotto go further than just
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intending to.
So where do I have to go fromthere.
I have to say, okay, I'mintending to step into that new
awareness, but now I've got tomake a decision.
I have to decide.
Decide is not the same aschoose.
Choose means pick one, decideday of or from, decide to cut.
So when I decide something, Icut myself off from or cut
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myself off of any otherpossibility.
This is what I'm going to do,this is what my life is going to
be about.
Nothing is going to stand in myway.
This is what I will accomplish.
I decide.
So I've got awareness, I've gotintention, I've got decision.
And then I've got discipline.
So discipline is what keeps mefrom breaking the covenant to
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myself of my intention, of mydecision.
So discipline is what keeps mefrom breaking the covenant I
made with myself when I made adecision, because the word
covenant and the word decideboth mean to cut.
So when I decide something, I'mmaking a covenant with me,
right?
Which means I would rather dieand keep my word to myself than
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live and break it.
That's a decision, okay.
So now I've got my awareness, Ibecame aware of something I was
unaware of.
I set an intention on this newthing, I've decided to do it,
and now I've got discipline,which means I'm not going to let
myself off this hook.
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Like I decided, I am going tostart my day with exercise
instead of hot bath, cold plunge, hot bath and then shower.
So it's going to start my daywith exercise instead of hot
bath, cold plunge, hot bath andthen shower.
So it's going to be workout,shower, get dressed, go to work,
cold plunge.
All that other stuff's going tohave to wait until sometime
later in the day.
Why I had to make getting inthe shape I desire to be in and
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having the health I desire tohave my number one priority,
even though exercise hasn't beenmy number one priority since I
was in high school.
Okay, but it was my number onepriority in high school.
Other kids were eating lunch.
I would go to the weight roomand lift weights.
So, okay, so so now I've gotattention.
I mean not attention, awareness, intention, decision,
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discipline, recognition.
I take time to acknowledge whatmy new awareness, my new
intention, my decision and mydiscipline have gotten me.
That's why, even though I don'tlose weight every day, I weigh
myself every single morning.
Why?
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Because that way I can stay ontop of it.
I weigh myself every day, but Iwould have been away.
I don't care about that.
I weigh myself every day.
Why?
That's part of my discipline.
Does that make sense?
So this morning, now yesterday,I rode my assault bike for 30
minutes.
The day before that, I rode myassault bike for 25 minutes.
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This morning, the first thing Idid was rode my assault bike
for 30 minutes.
Tomorrow morning, the firstthing I'm going to do I'm going
to wake up at 5 o'clock in themorning.
I'm going to get dressed, I'mgoing to go downstairs, I'm
going to go out on my patio andI'm going to ride my assault
bike for 30 minutes, listeningto music, making my heart rate,
getting my heart rate up above150 beats a minute, sweating
like a crazy person.
I'm tomorrow morning, but I'mgoing to have a towel around my
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neck, even though it's not hotout there, cause I'm going to
wipe all the sweat off my face.
I am going to do that before Ido anything Right?
So that's my discipline, but I'mgoing to recognize that I did
that.
And guess what?
Guess what?
I'm going to recognize it next,tomorrow morning, when I step
on the scale, because I alsohave my workout, my tonal
workout, and my weighted vestworkout.
That I'm going to do when I gethome.
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So I know tomorrow, like yes,two days ago, two days ago I
weighed 187 pounds.
This morning I weighed 183.7.
Tomorrow it'll be less.
Tomorrow it'll be less.
So I recognize.
Why am I recognizing?
So that I can acknowledge thatmy awareness and my intention
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and my decision and mydiscipline are not a waste of my
time.
It's very hard for us to workon something that we don't
acknowledge is working.
And then, lastly, so afterawareness, intention, decision,
discipline and recognition, thelast one is celebration,
celebration.
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Okay, so when I get to 170pounds and my blood pressure is
like 116 over 65, I'll celebrate.
How am I going to celebrate?
I don't know, but I'm going tofind something fun to do and
I'll figure out what that islong before I get there, before
you do.
You see what I'm saying Isomething fun to do and I'll
figure out what that is longbefore I get there.
You see what I'm saying.
I do, I do.
Now, the transition is lockedin, uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Where I see the.
I guess the difficult part ofit is we assume that we have
enough or we built this musclethat you talked about before, of
self-discipline, to be able todo all these things.
So I have my awareness, I havemy attention, I've made my
decision.
Now I get to the disciplinething.
Do I need help?
Do I need to solicit people ifI haven't developed?
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Maybe it depends on your personality and who you are
, but really, discipline means Ido what I'm supposed to do,
when I'm supposed to do it, theway I'm supposed to do it, and I
do it that way every time I doit.
That's discipline, like, for me.
I'm a very autonomous person.
I don't like asking forpermission.
I don't like people pretendingthat they have the right to give
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me permission.
So for me, like, I don't need aworkout partner, I don't need
an accountability buddy.
When I make a decision and I'mdisciplined, it's a wrap, it's
as good as done, like.
So it depends on who you are,but I but I think.
I think the answer to thequestion you're asking me,
though, is a different and is adifferent answer because there's
a, there's a.
I think there's a betterquestion you can ask than do I
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need?
What do I need?
Like, somebody to hold myselfaccountable to?
Here's what you need.
Here's the thing that's goingto create the.
You have to become aware of thehigh cost of not making that
decision, setting that intention.
Okay, right.
So recently, a very, very dearfriend of mine last Thursday in
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fact, he had a brain aneurysmand I went to see him in the
hospital and he's unconsciousand his family's there and
they're in tears and basicallythe doctors have already told
them there's nothing they can do.
And his wife told me that hesuffered from high blood
pressure since he was a kid.
Basically, right, and I'm like,okay, maybe, like, like my
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blood pressure is high, thatcould be me.
And so I got a clear vision ofwhat not having this intention,
I got a very clear awareness ofwhat not having this intention
and not making this decision andnot having this discipline is
going to look like for me and myfamily if I don't make these
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hard choices right now.
See, the problem is people havethis Pollyanna picture of how
good life's going to be whenthey achieve the thing.
They don't have a crucify myflesh picture of how terrible
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life is going to be if theydon't.
They don't have right.
So, like for me, not eatingpork easy, because when I think
of eating the flesh of ascavenger animal, whether it's
pork, shrimp, lobster it's likeeating flies and roaches to me,
because they're the same thingin the animal kingdom that flies
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and roaches are in the insectkingdom.
Like, why would I put that inmy mouth?
Why would I eat something thateats its own feces.
I'm not going to do that Right.
So that's not hard.
Not eating pork is not hard forme, that's easy.
You know what's hard for me Notgoing to restaurants that's
hard for me.
I like restaurant food.
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It's not that I like restaurantfood as much as I like the idea
of somebody serving me.
I like the idea of somebodybringing me food and sitting on
the table before me and thencleaning up my mess when I'm
done.
I know that sounds allbougie-fied, I get it, but I
like it.
I like me and my wife going todinner and sitting down and
eating dinner and not having tothink about preparing food,
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cooking food, setting a table,cleaning a table running a
dishwasher?
No, just go sit down.
They feed you.
You go home, then you hang outwith the person you love the
most.
Sign me up for that program.
Does that make sense?
Most people are not reallyreally good at painting in vivid
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colors the really ugly pictureof how terrible life is going to
be if they don't get this thingdone.
I don't want to be laying in thehospital with my chest cracked
open because I couldn't say noto restaurant food.
So guess what I've decided todo for the next 10 days.
Couldn't say no to restaurantfood, so guess what I've decided
to do for the next 10 days.
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Just eat raw fruits andvegetables and my protein shake
and no other other than myprotein shake.
No processed food for the next10 days at least, maybe longer,
and drink water Like no sugarybeverages.
No insulin spiking foods otherthan fruit.
Some fruit I'll eat.
I'll eat three pieces of fruitper day and my protein shake.
Other than that, it's all rawfruits and vegetables.
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I'm good with that.
I'll make my own salad dressingfrom scratch and I'll make it
from vegetables, spices andfruit juice.
I'm just done.
Why?
Because I love my family.
I just don't want to put myfamily.
I want to live my life like alight bulb Shine as brightly as
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I can for as long as I possiblycan, and one day I burn out and
it's a wrap.
This whole idea that you haveto get sicker as you get older
is a myth, but it's a myth thattoo many people bought into.
I am stronger now than I waswhen I was 30.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
I'm in better shape now than I was when I was 30.
That is so cool.
And how will you celebrate that?
Like, because I know you knowpart of your progression here
you made the decision, you'redoing, you're doing the thing,
and then have you alreadythought about how you celebrate
the?
Or is just life because you getto be that?
No, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
I haven't thought about it yet, but I'm going to.
I'll figure that out before Iget there.
I may fly myself to someamazing location and play three
rounds of golf at Punta Espadaand La Cana and Caracas in the
DR, or something.
It'll be a major celebration,oh sweet.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
I really want, before we end, is to talk about your
faith and what's your beliefsystem that has now been able to
help you, or everything that'sbeen able to allow you to
accomplish the things thatyou've accomplished, and why
that's so important.
I know you do biblicalprinciples with what we're doing
, with what you do biblicalprinciples and business at the
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same time, and you combine themwith what other people don't do.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Talk about that a little bit.
Well, I do combine them, butGod combined them originally.
I'm just.
All I'm doing is God has thebest content.
I just repeat his content.
People think I'm smart, eventhough I tell them, hey, I
didn't make this up, I got itfrom God.
Like who let you use it tooRight?
It's like I don't have a corneron the market on that stuff.
You know, it's like I don'thave a corner on the market on
(53:46):
that stuff.
So business is a good ideabecause business is a God idea.
I received Christ when I was 16years old.
That's not religion, that'slike I received and trusted in
the death, burial andresurrection of Jesus Christ for
(54:06):
my eternal life as my fullpayment for eternal life.
Not some good deed.
I did not some church attended,not some baptism, not something
that I do Literally.
I am not trusting in MyronGolden's good deeds for my
relationship with God.
I'm trusting in God's gooddeeds for my relationship with
God.
I'm trusting in what Jesus didwas enough and then, because he
did that for me, I have a desireto live my life for him and I
do not desire to misrepresenthim, because he is my king and
(54:26):
because he is my king.
He has already told me in hisword that he desires to make me
the king of my thing, and so Iserve a king who wants to make
me a king.
There's another king.
He's a fake king.
He's called Satan, the devil,the enemy, the adversary.
He's a king that wants to makepeople a slave, the adversary.
(54:49):
He's a king that wants to makepeople a slave, and then he
wants to use the people who he'smade slaves to build his
kingdom, and he works them likea three-legged mule until they
die.
I'm glad I served the real king, and so I don't want to
misrepresent my king by notruling well over my kingdom
assignment, which he assigned meto, and so that's where my
faith comes into play.
(55:10):
I don't do this biblical Biblestuff as a ploy because I think
it's going to make me some moneyif I throw the word kingdom in
what I do.
I do it because I discoveredthat this is God's plan.
The kingdom of God is a familybusiness.
How do I know that?
Because Jesus said know ye notthat I must be about my father's
(55:32):
business.
I must work the work of himthat sent me while in his day,
for the night cometh, when noman can work.
So I do what I do the way I doit, because I believe that's the
way God intended for it to bedone.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
Oh man, thank you.
Thank you so much for that.
What didn't I in the next twominutes before we finished?
What did I not talk about?
That you wanted to make sure.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
I don't know, man.
I mean you opened the box, bro,and a whole bunch of stuff
jumped out.
Yeah, I don't know that.
We didn't talk about anything.
If people want to know more,they can find me on YouTube
under my name, myron Golden, orInstagram, my name, myron Golden
.
I think this is one thing thatwe didn't talk about.
If somebody, pretending to be me, attempts to sell you some
(56:21):
crypto investment thing, it'snot me.
I don't offer.
If somebody on social mediamessages you and tries to get
you to buy something, it's neverme.
Now I do sell stuff.
I've got my books my Boss Movesbook on bossmovesbookcom.
I've got my other book, trashman to Cash man, at
trashmandocashmancom.
I've got my Make More OffersChallenge at
(56:42):
makemoreofferschallengecom.
But I won't message you onInstagram or TikTok or YouTube
to attempt to get you to buy it.
Like it's out there for peopleto find and when they find it
and they want it, more power tothem.
But I don't inbox people andmake them offers.
So if somebody does that,they're scamming.
They're scamming you.
Don't let somebody use my nameto scam you out of your
(57:03):
hard-earned money.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
Oh my gosh, thank you .
This has been so incredible.
Thank you for being on.
I have my first challenge nextweek, so I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
My first offers I'm teaching people how to do
podcasting.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
And how to make it happen, and so I can't wait for
that to happen.
This is, you know, when I thinkabout folks that are in my
world and have had influence onme, and you know, I would say
you're one of those folks and itwas such a pleasure to go.
Ok, these are my heroes, theseare my people, because you teach
(57:41):
in a way that I was able tolearn, teach in a way that I was
able to take the information,absorb the information and then
make it my own, and so just thefact that you're here with me
today, we will spend more timetogether.
I know that no matter what, butI can't wait to emulate some of
(58:03):
the things that you've beenable to help me do.
So I wanted to just say thankyou for doing that.
For those of you guys who arejust watching this for the first
time and this is the one thereis so many of these really good
episodes where I'm justinterviewing folks that have
been successful, folks that areworking on their own lives,
whether it's somebody who is,you know, like a black
(58:23):
helicopter pilot, first one inthe army, or somebody who's been
to prison, who's become apastor for the last 34 years and
made a difference as aprominent attorney there's so
many ways that we can besuccessful in life.
I think Myron just stepped usthrough.
Oh man, some just incrediblethings intention, be, do, have,
and all those wonderful thingsthat I hope you take advantage
(58:43):
of watching these Hit, whateverthe YouTube things that you do
subscribe, and I can't wait forit to talk to you on the next
one.
So don't forget that you wereGod's greatest gift he loves you
, if you allow him to, and we'lllook for.
Look forward to talking to youon the next one.
You guys have an amazing, justincredible day today.
All right, thank you, brother.
The only way to fill the gap in my identity is with
(00:02):
intentionality.
That's where most of thetension and stress of people's
lives come from in the disparitybetween being and doing and the
disparity between doing andhaving.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
All right, welcome to another edition to the Journey
to Freedom podcast.
I am Dr B, I'm your host today,and today is an exciting,
special episode.
It's my first episode everworking with somebody who has
over 1 million subscribers.
Working with somebody who hasover 1 million subscribers.
(00:45):
And so Myron hit that just inthe last few months and it has
just been just so fun watchingthe progress over the last three
years.
You know, I think he was acouple hundred thousand, maybe
300,000, when I started watchinghim and just to watch it
progress over time.
You know, myron, I don't know.
First I just watched a videowith you and Omar and at the
(01:07):
beginning of Omar, omar said Iwant to thank you for helping me
make a million dollars.
Now I'm not there yet, but I'mthanking you in advance because
I know it's going to happen.
But what I do want to thank youfor is the fact that you've
made me a better man.
You have made me.
You know I have taken thethings that I've learned.
I just turned 60 last month, soI just had a birthday, thank
(01:29):
you, and I am so much betterover the last three years than I
ever was, and I kind ofidentify a lot with you because
we're kind of in that same era.
You know like I literallywatched a episode of the Six
Million Dollar man last night.
It was awesome, so yeah, and Ithink of the times when you
(01:51):
talked about Mr Ed and all thatkind of stuff, and so what's
kind of cool is Journey toFreedom came out of.
I went to this trust seminar guy, dave Horsager.
Dave Horsager, and he had aseminar where he was talking
about trust, leadership and howimportant trust is.
And I look around the room andI've said to myself, being a
black man in America, you knowthat's great, but it's not
(02:14):
defined me, it's not the mostimportant thing, it's not.
I don't count, but I literallycounted, like we do sometimes,
how many folks of color were inthe room and there was like 30
of us out of 500.
And I was wondering why, and Iwas.
And I came back and I startedpraying about it and God said I
kind of want to work.
Have you work with you know,you know folks of color.
He said specifically black men.
(02:35):
I said I don't know if that'swhat I want to be, but I'll be
obedient to it.
And so Journey to Freedom ispart of a coaching program and
thing that I, that I created asa result of just interviewing,
I've now done one hundred andfifty, over one hundred and
fifty episodes of success forblack men and now I'm starting
to do black women and stuff.
(02:56):
And so part of it came because Iwent to the Make More Offers
Challenge with you and I asked,I asked for a question.
I said, will you be on mypodcast?
And you say, wait a minute,because I think I was about 30
episodes.
And you said, well, when youhit 50 episodes then we can talk
about it.
So I went back to work.
I said I'm going to go do 50episodes.
So I got to 50 episodes and Isaid he's not going to believe
(03:16):
me.
I'm going to fly out to Floridaand I'm going to show up and
I'm going to let him know that Idid 50 episodes.
So I got there you said, hey,meet with Larry, get some things
.
But I didn't stop.
So between the time I was inFlorida last year now I've done
over another hundred episodes.
I'm just going.
This has just been such anincredible journey to be able to
(03:40):
do that.
But you've helped me becauseyou said do this and I did it.
You know you said, hey, youneed to have a book.
So I wrote three.
So I just finished my thirdbook this weekend.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I just keep moving forward as a result of the
things that you're teaching me,and so usually in this podcast,
I start out and just I want youto tell your story.
You know however you want, andthen I'll add in I was, I was
just telling Myron before westarted.
I've watched at least a thousandhours of his, so I believe like
he doesn't know me very well,but I know Myron Goldman because
(04:15):
he.
One of the things you've doneis you've been vulnerable enough
to spend the time onlinesharing who you are with all of
us, and without that I don'tthink I'm the man that I should
be, or without that I don'tthink I could grow the way you
helped me be able to grow,because you are willing to not
just say all these things thatyou can do, like programs and be
(04:39):
a better business strategistand coaching, but you also talk
about your life.
You talk about who you are, youtalk about bringing growing
life.
You talk about who you, youtalk about bringing growing up.
You talk about you're assessingthe trees right now.
So I understand all of thatright now and I can't wait to
spend more time with you, butI'd love for you to kind of just
start out.
Tell the part of your storythat you want to share.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, so my name is Myron Golden.
I'm the second of sevenbrothers.
My parents were veryhardworking people James and
Caroline Golden and I give them,so it's just.
It's just.
What they did was remarkable,and so I um, I had polio as an
(05:29):
infant because I was born in asegregated hospital and
contracted polio as an infant.
So that was a major impact onmy life, cause I walk with a
brace on my leg, uh, walk with alimp that I don't notice unless
I see myself walking past themirror or past the glass door
that has a reflection, but otherpeople notice, and so when I
was a kid I couldn't run, soother kids made fun of me, blah,
(05:52):
blah, blah, and I just thinkall of that stuff made me
stronger because I believe thateverything that happens to you
happens for you.
I'm one of those people who didwell in school all the way
through the third grade and itwent downhill from there.
I liked the 10th grade so muchI took it twice and managed to
graduate second in my class fromhigh school it was a class of
(06:16):
two.
My little brother was thevaledictorian and now you know
the rest of the story but wentoff to college, met this
beautiful girl wrote her a bunchof poems.
She finally married me afterthree years and we proceeded to
struggle even more than I wasstruggling by myself.
But we had a dream and westarted working towards that
(06:40):
dream.
I got recruited into sellingfinancial services of insurance
and investments through anetwork marketing company and
when I did, I really worked thatbusiness like my life depended
on it.
I was terrible at selling, Iwas terrible at leadership, I
was terrible at business, but Iwas learning some new skills
(07:00):
that would take my life into astratosphere that I didn't know
existed.
And so here we are, some almost40 years later, like 38 years
after that whole thing, andwe've made millions of dollars,
lost millions of dollars, gonethrough incredible ups and just
(07:23):
absolutely heart-wrenching lows.
And now we have a business thatis doing quite well and we
impact entrepreneurs all overthe world.
In fact, we're in the middle ofa Make More Offers Challenge
right now and I don't know wehave I don't know 350, 370
people.
I didn't look this morning, Ilooked yesterday, it was like
330 something.
(07:43):
So I'm sure it's 350, 370, 380,might be 400, because we
usually sell the most ticketsthe last day.
And so we're here and I teachentrepreneurs how to scale their
businesses.
I teach high levelentrepreneurs how to create,
convey and convert premium valueoffers faster and better than
any coach in the world.
In fact, while other coachesare doing their best to help
(08:05):
their clients make six and sevenfigures a year, I'm actually
helping my clients do six andseven figure days.
So that's what we do.
I've written some books, I dosome coaching.
I'm always in learning mode andI have a YouTube channel that
we create.
I have a YouTube channel forbusiness, which is my name,
myron Golden, and I have aYouTube channel for Bible study,
which is Bible study with MyronGolden.
(08:27):
So that's that's.
I mean, I've been married forit'll be 40 years this year and,
um, I have my.
I have my son, who works withme in my business.
My daughter works with me in mybusiness.
We have one my wife and I haveone son in heaven, and, um, and
now we just, you know we'rewe're, by the grace of God,
(08:47):
doing our best to have an impactand bless people's lives in as
many ways as we can.
So that's pretty much my story.
I don't know if I didn't tellsomething you wanted me to share
or did.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's that's how I think, yeah, no, there's so many
like nuances in your story andthat helps you, I guess, explain
a story like you know youtalked about.
You know, one of my favoriteones is when you know your dad
says that the bolt's not goingto beat you guys because of the
you know you have a brain andyou have a brain and you know.
So that's that's all thoselessons yeah, well, what I found
(09:23):
, which is which is really kindof cool, is that there are, you
know, several things that youtalk about that you don't mind
repeating over and over and overagain, like you've got like 15
different things and I've kindof been writing they are.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, they are.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Believe me, I could go through them, whether it's
the law of entropy, the law ofenergy, like you said, genesis,
chapter one, all the things thathappen in Genesis, the law of
creation, the four levels ofvalue, and so this is what's
amazing, because I think that mybrain is like part Myron Golden
now and, as a result, I'mwatching.
(10:04):
I'm watching, I'm doing mynightly post and my wife has a
show on and the first thing thathappens in the show is the
richest guy on the show that I'mwatching, so Harrison Ford
thing.
He is like the worst guy ever.
Right, they paint him to be themost evil character in life and
you talk about that a lot.
Then this is what I really kindof knew.
(10:25):
He starts talking, he gets witha group of people and it's like
in the 1920s and he says, okay,now that we have, you know,
indoor plumbing and faucets work, we have heat that's coming in.
He says no, no longer do peoplehave to work with their hands,
they have to use imagination.
People have to work with theirhands.
(10:47):
They have to use imagination.
And I went four values, youknow, right there, cause he
literally jumped from.
You know, he jumped from usingyour hands.
Implementation forgotunification, did talk about
communication, cause he met witha group of men and, instead of
him just telling them what hewanted to do, he said I'm
investing this, are you willingto invest?
(11:08):
So then it talks about when youtalk about people who get
nonprofits and getting people.
And then, finally, the partthat just super blew me away is
there's another guy he's workingwith and they said in order for
you to have something, we haveto take it from somebody.
And the wife says, well, takeenough of it that they have to
take it from somebody.
And the wife says we'll takeenough of it that they can't
take it back.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, it isjust.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It, just hollywood, just, they messed us up, right
perpetuating the the idea of thezero-sum game, which is not
real so what?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
what do these?
What do you think is thefavorite?
Is the ball value your favoriteto talk about?
Or what well you know of your,your things that you love to
talk about all the time?
Which is the one that you thinkmakes the most impact, or your
favorite to?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
My favorite thing to talk about is be, do, have.
It's like the fundamental,foundational principle of
success Be, do have, god said.
The very first thing God saidto a human being this might make
it relatively important is befruitful, do multiply, do
replenish, do subdue and havedominion.
Be, do, do, do, have, be, dohave.
There is like people desire.
(12:16):
Most frustration that peoplehave in their lives is either in
the tension between be and door the tension between do and
have.
Is either in the tensionbetween be and do or the tension
between do and have.
They desire to have somethingthat they haven't done anything
to deserve, or they areattempting to do something that
they've not become the personwho can do it.
That's where most of thetension and stress of people's
(12:39):
lives come from in the disparitybetween being and doing and the
disparity between doing andhaving Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So, as I was just thinking about this, you know
when you say can't be, can't do,can't have, Right.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Be a little, be a little, do a little, have a
little, be a lot, do a lot, havea lot.
It also means don't be, can'tdo, can't do, can't have.
Like nobody's going tocircumvent.
Be, do have.
It's the first principle ofsuccess Be, do, have.
And what's really interestingabout that is being speaks to
(13:15):
our identity.
I have to become the person.
Being speaks to my identity.
My identity is who I am.
Now here's the problem.
Most people have a phantomidentity.
What I mean by that is theydon't know who they are and they
don't know who they are basedon, whose they are, because
they're more in tune with what Icall their lie-dentity than
(13:37):
they are their identity.
And what's their lie-dentity?
Their lie-dentity is all thethings all the people in their
lives told them all their lives.
They are not.
You're not smart enough, you'renot tall enough, you're not
educated enough, you're not goodenough, you're not rich enough,
you're not handsome enough,you're not beautiful enough, you
can't dance good enough, youcan't sing good enough, you
can't run fast enough, you can'tfight tough enough.
Who you are is not enough.
That is your in tune with theirlie-dentity than they are with
(14:06):
their identity.
So they are more familiar withwho they aren't than they are
familiar with who they are.
So B speaks to your identity.
And then what people do toattempt to overcome what I call
the lie-dentity is they createwhat I call the my-dentity.
And the my-dentity is also afake identity, except instead of
one that other people give toyou, it's one you create for
yourself, to prove to the peoplewho gave you the lie identity
(14:28):
that their lie identity is notaccurate.
Right, but it's all your lieidentity.
Your my identity is not who youare either, because you don't
create your identity any morethan a baby creates itself.
You get your identity from theone that created you, and so I
have to get my identity from theultimate identity, and the
ultimate identity is the I amthat I am, and so, if you think
(14:49):
about that, I am that I am.
That's a statement.
We just had a sound panel falloff the wall.
That was fascinating.
It's okay, I'm sure you canedit that part out.
So so my identity is like Ihave to.
I have to understand that I amonly who God says I am.
(15:13):
Now, if there, if there's adisparity or there's dissidence
between who God says I am andwho I think I am God is not the
problem who God says I am andwho I think I am.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
God is not the problem.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Right, I'm the problem, and the phrase I am is
a present statement, and ashuman beings we really have a
hard time dealing with thepresent.
We have a hard time.
People say be present, but wedon't even know how to do that.
Like, because being present inthe arena of time is very
challenging.
Why?
Because as soon as I say now,it becomes then.
So in our experience of life wehave two periods of time we
(15:51):
have now and we have then.
So we have the past and we havethe future, but we don't know
how to experience the present.
But God operates in time, buthe exists outside of time.
He exists in eternity, andeternity is the forever now.
So that's why God is the I am,that I am, and not the I was,
(16:11):
that I was, or the I will be,that I will be, because eternity
is the forever now.
Well, if you think about that,I am are the two most powerful
words that exist.
So what if thou shalt not takethe name of the Lord, thy God,
in vain?
What if that means?
Because vain means emptiness,nothingness.
(16:32):
What if it means you take God'sname and attach it to something
that perpetuates lack?
For instance, you say I am poor, so now you're taking your
limitation and you're infusingit with the power of eternity.
What if you say I am so stupid?
You're taking your limitationand you're infusing it with the
power of eternity.
(16:52):
What if you say I am such anidiot?
What if that's what it reallymeans to take God's name in vain
?
You take the most powerful namethat exists and you empty it of
all its power.
I'm not saying that's what itmeans, but I'm just saying what
if that is what it means?
Oh my gosh.
That's why this is.
(17:13):
That's why this is my favoritething to talk about, because
being speaks to my identity, butdoing speaks to my activity.
Well, most people think that ifthey're not succeeding, the
thing to do is to try harder.
I believe Right.
Do more of what's already notproven to not work.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Right For frustration and beingexhausted, right.
(17:37):
But what if the real secret totransformation was if you don't
like the output, change theinput, right?
Well, the input for activity isidentity.
Identity is the input, activityis the output.
So, if you don't like whatyou're doing and you'd like to
(17:59):
do more, then go change theinput and become more, because
doing speaks.
Being speaks to my identity,but doing speaks to my activity.
Now there's a gap in my identity.
There's a gap in my, there's agap in everybody's identity.
There's the gap between who Iam right now and who I have the
potential of becoming, becausepotential is the difference
(18:20):
between who I am and who I couldbe.
Potential is the differencebetween what I'm doing and what
I could be doing.
Potential is the differencebetween who I am and who I could
be.
Potential is the differencebetween what I'm doing and what
I could be doing.
Potential is the differencebetween what I have and what I
could have.
Right, and so, as I'm goingthrough my life and I'm
experiencing life and I've gotthis gap in my identity, I have
the potential to be this, butI'm only this.
How do I fill the gap in myidentity?
That's the question.
(18:41):
How do I fill the gap?
Huh, identity, that's thequestion.
How do I fill the gap?
Huh, how do I fill the gap inmy identity?
That's a great question, isn'tthat a great question?
How do I fill the gap in myidentity?
Like I could say I don't know.
Could I fill it with water?
No, that's not it.
No, how can I fill the gap inmy identity, like the difference
(19:06):
between who I am and who Icould be?
The only way to fill the gap inmy identity is with
intentionality.
I have to be hyper intentionalabout becoming more.
Think about this.
I have to hyper-intentionalabout becoming more.
Have you ever thought about thefact that, in order to improve
(19:37):
in life, it requires two thingsenergy and intention.
Right, you're not going toimprove with, you're not going
to accidentally improve longterm.
That's not going to happen.
No, you're not going to donothing and improve.
So it requires energy andintention which creates directed
, right, you're, you're takingyour, your energy and you're
directing it intentionally at anoutcome.
(19:58):
Right, ok, cool.
So if that's the case, that Ifeel like progress, improvement,
can only be created throughenergy and intention, do you not
find it fascinating?
(20:19):
You probably do.
I find it fascinating that, inorder for me to improve, it
requires intention and energy.
But in order for me to getworse, in order for me to
digress, it only requiresneglect.
It requires no intention.
I don't have to intend to doworse, I don't have to try to do
worse.
All I have to do is not intendto get better and I will
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automatically get worse.
I don't have to.
I'm going to make myself sick.
I don't have to make myselfsick.
All I have to do is not focuson making myself healthy.
Yeah, I don't have to makemyself poor.
I don't have to make myselfspend money.
I have to do is not focus oncreating wealth.
So progress requires intention.
Digression only requiresneglect.
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So I fill the gap in my identitywith intentionality.
I become hyperintentional aboutwhat Always be becoming more,
more than what, more than I'vebeen being.
If I'm always becoming morethan I've been being, then I am
being hyperintentional with mylife.
Okay, so that's the gap in myidentity, but guess what Myal
(21:24):
with my life?
Okay, so that's the gap in myidentity, but guess what?
My identity creates my activity.
I am, therefore I do.
I am who I am, therefore I dowhat I do.
Well, if I'm going to havebetter activity, I have to own a
better identity.
So how do I fill the gap in myactivity?
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Because there's a differencebetween what I'm doing and what
I could be doing.
So if I use intentionality tofill the gap in my identity,
what do I use to fill the gap inmy activity?
I use ingenuity.
I keep on coming up with a newapproach until I find one that's
my eureka moment.
Almost never is our eurekamoment found on the first
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attempt.
Almost never, why?
Because if I find my eurekamoment on the first attempt,
then seeking that eureka momentdoesn't turn me into a better
person.
So, even though activity is theoutput of identity, which is
the input, my activity, which isthe output, also affects the
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input, which is identity.
So my activity can have aneffect on my identity.
Sometimes I will discover who Iam After I've already become
the person.
I will discover that I'vebecome that person because of
something I've done okay okay,and then?
so identity is the input,activity is the output, but
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activity is also an input.
Activity is the output ofidentity, but it's the input for
property.
So b speaks to my identity.
Do speaks to my activity.
B speaks to my identity.
Do speaks to my activity.
Have speaks to my property.
Well, guess what?
My activity produces myproperty.
See, covetousness is not thedesire for more property.
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Covetousness is the desire forproperty that I am unwilling to
do the right thing in order forme to deserve to have it.
I desire something that I don'tdeserve.
That's covetousness.
So why do I have less than Icould have?
Well, because my activityhasn't produced more.
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Well, why hasn't my activityproduced more?
Because my identity, who Ithink I am, won't let it.
So being speaks to my identity.
Doing speaks to my activity.
Having speaks to my property.
This is my favorite principle ofall principles that I've ever
learned in my life, because,first and foremost, it's the
first one God ever spoke to aman Be, do have.
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Being is the root system of thetree.
Doing is the root system of thetree.
Doing is the shoot system, thetrunk of the branches.
Having is the fruit system.
It's the fruits.
Wow, and, by the way, this is apattern that keeps repeating
over and over in different ways,but when we get it we're like
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okay, if I don't like the fruit,don't paint it, change the root
.
Painting an orange red doesn'tturn it into an apple no, oh my
gosh.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
but, and when I wrote , you know, as I think of our
culture and I know you would sayI can speak as a black man
because I is one, and you know.
And so I start thinking aboutthe things that we blame, those
contributing factors that weblame on the reason our identity
isn't what our identity shouldbe.
Right, because we think thatall these external factors are
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the things that you know who weare like, who our mama told us
we were were, who are, you knowthe folks that we hung around,
or I didn't have a dad when Iwas growing up, or how do we get
that identity to not live inthis world where we think
everything is against us andthat becomes our identity, so
that means it stops our activity, right?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
we.
We have to have, we have tohave heralds, prophets and when
I say prophets, I'm not talkingabout in the prophets, I'm not
talking about in the OldTestament, I'm not talking about
in the foresight prophets, I'mtalking about foretelling
prophets, people who are willingto proclaim the truth right.
We need people to tell us, weneed somebody to increase our
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awareness.
If I'm going to go from being avictim of the circumstances of
my life to being a victorthrough the circumstances of my
life, someone is going to haveto tell me the truth that
negates the lie that I believe.
It's going to wake me up out ofmy victimhood slumber, because
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I can't.
Nobody else can make me avictim.
People can attempt to victimizeme, but no one can make me a
victim but me.
I had polio as an infant.
I walk with a brace on my leg.
It's the direct result ofracism, segregation and
discrimination.
Me walking with a brace on myleg is the direct result of that
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.
So nobody's going to tell methat I don't understand.
I do understand.
I just also understand that Iam not a victim of that.
It is just a part of myassignment and it's the law of
polarity says for every actionthere's an equal and opposite
reaction.
Right For every action there'san equal and opposite reaction.
So it's impossible to havesomething quote bad happen to
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you without it bringing alongsomething equally as good.
It's impossible to havesomething negative without it
bringing along something equallyas positive.
It's impossible to havesomething that's damaging in
your life without it bringingalong right with it something
equally dynamic.
And so what I've got to do,I've got to learn to do.
If I'm going to be on thisjourney to freedom and enter
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this level of freedom, I've gotto learn how to say, I've got to
learn how to walk around to theother side of my circumstance
and look at the other side ofthat coin.
Because I think of a biblicalexample of this, when Pharaoh
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called Jacob and said sir, howold are you, sir?
Now here's what happened toJacob, his sons.
He didn't know this is whathappened, but his sons took
their youngest son and threw himin a pit.
And then some people came andtook him out of the pit and sold
him into slavery.
They went back and told theirdad that his son was dead.
So he was separated from hisson.
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When his son was a child, hethought his son was dead.
He ran away from his brotherbecause his brother wanted to
kill him.
He worked hard for seven yearsfor this woman and her father
tricked him and gave him thatgirl's sister.
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And then he worked seven moreyears for the girl he actually
wanted.
And so he went through all ofthese different circumstances
and then there's a famine in theland land and they go to Egypt
to get some food.
And he's got, he's down, hissons are down there, and then
the prime minister said we'regoing to keep one of y'all and
then go tell your, you bringyour family, and then I'll let
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this other brother go.
And so Pharaoh asked Jacob howold he was.
And here's what Jacob said.
He said few and evil have beenthe days of the life of my
pilgrimage.
Few and evil, really.
Now guess who else had thosesame exact circumstances?
For the most part His son,joseph, the one they actually
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threw in the pit, who actuallygot sold into slavery.
And Joseph went down and was aslave in Potiphar's house.
Potiphar's wife tried to seducehim.
It didn't work.
She lied on him.
He went to prison for a slavein Potiphar's house.
Potiphar's wife tried to seducehim.
It didn't work, she lied on him.
He went to prison for a crimehe didn't commit and he stayed
in prison until the perfect time.
Good thing he didn't have agoal to get out.
Anyway, that's anotherconversation for a different day
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.
And and Joseph named his twosons, ephraim and Manasseh.
What do those names mean?
What Ephraim and Manasseh mean?
One of them means God has causedme not to remember the labor
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and the toil in my father'shouse, in other words, the fact
that I had all this traumagrowing up in my family.
God had made me forget my trauma.
His other son.
His name means and I don'tremember which one is which, but
his name means God has made mefruitful in the land of my
affliction.
So one of the people who wentthrough the experiences few and
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evil have been the days of thelife of my pilgrimage.
The other person who wentthrough the experiences few and
evil have been the days of thelife of my pilgrimage.
The other person who wentthrough the same thing said God
has made me to forget the toiland the hardship in my father's
house and has made me fruitfulin the land of my affliction.
So what is that?
Neither one of them werevictims, neither one of them
were impacted by thecircumstance as much as they
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were impacted by theirperspective.
Most people who think they're aprisoner of circumstance are
actually a prisoner of theirperspective, of what they
believe that circumstance means.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
All the things that have been happened to them.
They're the way that theylooked at it.
Yeah, decided is this is whathappened to me and it's a bad
thing, and they can look at it.
I think one of the things thatyou talk about a lot is no
matter what is in the future,whatever outcome is in the
future that we're perceiving itto be, we made it up because oh,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Anything I tell myself about a future outcome, I
made it up.
If I say I'm going home thisafternoon when I leave work, I
don't know that I'm going home.
I know that I'm going to headin the direction of home.
That's my intention.
I could literally trip over thecurb on my way out the door,
fall down, hit my head on thesidewalk and end up in the
hospital for the rest of the day.
God forbid that that shouldhappen, but that possibility
exists.
So when I say I'm going home, Iliterally made that up.
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So I'm going to drink, I'mgoing to take a drink of water.
I could.
That water could go down mywindpipe and I could literally
like drown right here in abottle of water.
But we don't.
We don't say I'm going toattempt.
I'm going to try to go home andhope that I don't trip over the
curb and bump my head on thesidewalk and end up in the
hospital.
And I'm going to hope that theydon't give me the wrong drugs
for the wrong injury.
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And I'm going to hope thatwhile I'm driving home, that I
don't get hit by a truck.
We don't do that.
We don't throw up all thecontingencies around things that
don't matter.
Well, here's my question whydon't we throw up all these
contingencies around things thatdo Well, I'm going to try to
build a business.
We don't say I'm going to tryto go eat dinner, when the
reality is we made both of themup.
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Why don't we just decide we'regoing to go do what we're going
to go do?
And so, anyway, I've ranted fora long time, but now I think
you can see why be do have is myfavorite principle and why,
like I believe it's interesting.
You asked me about.
You asked me about like is myfavorite principle and why, like
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I believe it's interesting.
You asked me about.
You asked me about like how canwe break free of this idea of
the fact we're a victim?
It's so fascinating.
Like.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I'm thinking about the Trump tariffs right now,
right?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
So you look at the Trump tariffs.
People are all bent out ofshape and you have people oh,
the tariffs are great becauseall we're doing is reciprocal
tariffs to the people who'vebeen giving us tariffs all along
.
Other people are like no, youcan't do it that way because we
have way more people than theyhave and so therefore it's not
equitable.
Blah, blah, blah.
And then you have the peoplewho are like Donald Trump is
like he's like we want to make.
The reason I'm making thesetariffs is so we can make
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America a manufacturing nationagain.
Well, all that sounds, all oftheir arguments sound great.
Here's what I'm going to sayabout the whole argument of
making America a manufacturingnation again.
Where are we going to findworkers?
Because we can't even findpeople who want to do work.
That's not manufacturing work.
Like good help is hard to find.
Attempting to turn America.
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In my opinion, regardless ofwhat you think about President
Trump, whether you think he'sgreat or whether you think he's
terrible, I happen to like himpersonally.
I happen to think that he'sreally, really the best thing
that's happened to our countryin a while.
As far as the president'sconcerned which a lot of people
disagree with me, but that'sfine too.
Like I could be wrong.
I don't think I am, but I couldbe.
But I think his idea abouttariffs bringing manufacturing
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back to America is like fightingto raise minimum wage.
What you're doing is you'resaying let's elevate the bottom
to make it easier for people whoare unwilling to develop
themselves.
Why do you want to make Americaa manufacturing nation when
America is advanced to the pointwhere you no longer need to be
a manufacturing nation?
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We can manufacture stuffcheaper somewhere else and teach
our people to learn new skillsthat will serve them better than
learning how to drive aforklift Not that there's
anything wrong with driving aforklift.
We're emphasizing the wrongthing.
When you emphasize raisingminimum wage.
You're inferring to the peoplethat you're raising a minimum
wage for that.
You need to stay here for therest of your life.
So I'm going to make youcomfortable.
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Don't be a victim of therhetoric, anyway.
Don't be a victim of therhetoric.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Anyway, those are some of my yeah.
No, I so appreciate that.
One of the things that I know,that you know, at least when I
think of.
You know I grew up and theytold me I was a special ed kid
and that I had to, you know,attend special ed classes.
And you know I went to a whitehigh school, predominantly white
.
There's 3,000 students and 30of us were folks of color and 20
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of the 30 of us were all inspecial ed class.
So you know that could havebeen the circumstances.
That was a pretty good.
I didn't realize it till laterin life, but I think, like the
things that you were able to doas a result of polio and having
this incredible memory and youknow, despite those
circumstances that werehappening and I don't even know
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if it's more of a memory or arecall, but one of the things
that I say to myself well, Idon't have this tremendous
recall, but I have technologyand other things that can help
me be able to do it.
What would you say?
You know just your ability todo a poem or your ability to be
able to speak or communicatebetter.
I believe you've worked on that, and some of us don't even work
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on any of those things.
What, what do you attribute toyou?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
know to be able to have.
That.
I believe I.
I I'm going to agree with Jimquick with regard to this.
So I believe that memory andrecall are muscles.
Okay, like muscles, the moreyou work on them, the stronger
they get.
People say I don't have a goodmemory.
Everybody has a good memory.
Everybody remembers everythingthey've ever heard, everything
they've ever seen, everythingthey've ever done.
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They just don't have a goodsystem for recall.
Okay, so, if you do, and sofirst, like, if somebody's going
to have better recall recall,the first thing I have to do is
stop telling themselves theydon't have a good memory, like
because we're if, if, like I sayto people every now and then
congratulations, if you fightfor your limitations, you get to
keep them so why would I say Ihave a?
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bad memory.
I don't have a bad memory.
I have a great memory.
I have an ironclad memory.
My memory is like rock solidand and I have a great recall
system.
Like people say, I'm terrible atremembering names.
No, you're terrible at payingattention when people are
telling you their name, becauseyou're thinking about the thing
you want to say next.
Like, I have a system forremembering people's names.
You know what it's called.
When they're telling me theirname, I'm actually listening.
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Right, that'll change the game.
Number two I will repeat theirname to them and I'll usually
ask one or two questions.
Somebody tells me their name.
I'll say, wow, nice to meet you.
Let's say nice to meet you, bob.
How do you spell that?
Right, b-o-b, right, b-o-b.
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Now, one of the things I learnedin signing books regardless of
what the person's name is,always ask them how to spell it,
because you are going to getsome people with some names we
would call normal names thathave some very unusual spellings
.
Okay, so the first thing I'mgoing to do I know somebody
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named Karen C-A-R-Y-N.
Right, wow, exactly.
So when somebody tells me theirname, don't in communication.
I love what my daughter says.
She says the biggest mistake incommunication is thinking that
it happened.
One of the reasons we make themistake of thinking that
communication happened isbecause we assume that we know
what people mean.
We don't ask them what theymean and we assume people know
what we mean.
We don't ask them what theymean and we assume people know
what we mean and we don't say itclearly.
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So when somebody's introducingthemselves, I say, well, that's
an interesting name, how do youspell that?
And then they'll tell me, andI'll say so are you named after
someone?
Well, I'm actually named aftermy grandfather on my mother's
side, and they called him Robert, and then they called him Bob,
my dad's Robert Jr.
I'm Bob, the third, and so theyjust call me B3, right.
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So now their name is no longerjust a word, it's actually a
story and our minds are designedto remember stories, like if I
say David and Goliath see, Ididn't.
Now how do you rememberGoliath's name?
You've never met Goliath.
See, I didn't.
Now how do you rememberGoliath's name?
You've never met Goliath,you've never even met David.
But when I say David and yousay the first thing that comes
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to your mind is Goliath.
You didn't say David andBathsheba.
You didn't say David andSolomon, you didn't say David
and Joab, you said David.
You didn't even say David andJesse, or David and Eliab, his
brothers or his father, you saidDavid and Goliath.
Why?
Because our minds are.
God made our minds to rememberstories, right?
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So if you can get somebody toengage in a story about their
name I mean I can think of awhole bunch of other questions I
can just ask somebody abouttheir name so I never forget it.
So did you ever hate your nameor have you always loved your
name?
And then they'll tell me.
I'll say, have people evermispronounced your name?
And if they have mispronouncedyour name, what other things
have they called you?
I know for me they've called meMarion, malcolm, miriam, melvin
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, marvin, milton.
I've been called everything butMyron.
I mean, bro, you add in allkinds of letters that don't even
exist.
So has anybody evermispronounced your name?
What are some of themispronunciations of your name
that you've heard, right?
So have you ever met anybodyelse with your name?
Or, if they have a popular name, do you regret having a popular
name that so many people have?
Are you glad you have a popularname that's easy to remember
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and easy to spell, like you canliterally sit there and ask
people a whole bunch ofquestions about their name, and
so now you spend a bunch of timewith them on their name.
How are you going to forgettheir name?
Now it's a story, you know howto spell it, you have all this
information, so now thatperson's story becomes a part of
your story.
It's not just a word that'sdisconnected from context, so
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does that make that helpful?
Oh yeah, super super helpful.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
You brought up intention before and and I know
that my other favorite subjectyeah.
So you brought up attentionbecause you know, I think of you
, know the just the fact thatyou now somebody wants to do it
your business strategist, youhelp people acquire money and a
lot of people are afraid of yourmoney anyways.
They got this bad relationshipwith money.
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But as an intention, I knowthat.
Okay, now I'm ready to start.
There's probably going to besome kind of disruption that's
going to hit me and I don't knowwhat that is.
But what are some things that Ihave to do with me to become
the person that can be withintention and now, hey, I want
to do it, I'm going to do it, Itold you I'm going to do it and
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then they don't do it.
What are some things that wecan do now that we in our minds,
we have intention, but toreally make it happen, so all
transformation begins withawareness.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
So, if you think about transformation,
transformation means there'ssomething I'd like to become,
there's someone I'd like tobecome, but I'm not already.
There's something I'd like tobecome.
There's someone I'd like tobecome that I'm not already.
There's something I'd like todo that I can't do already.
There's something I like tohave that I can't have already,
okay, great.
So if I'm going to transformfrom who I am to who I'd like to
become, from what I can do whatI can't do to what I'd like to
be able to do, from what I don'thave to what I'd like to have,
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then I've got to transform.
And the first thing that has totransform is my identity.
So how does transformationhappen?
All transformation begins withawareness, okay.
So it begins.
So I become aware that there issomething that's more desirable
.
Whatever that is, it doesn'tmatter, and I'll give you a
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perfect example of this in aminute.
After I'm done saying so, I, oh, there's something that's more
desirable, okay.
So after awareness, the nextstep is intention.
I have to intend to step intomy new awareness, okay, but if
I'm going to intend to, I've gotto go further than just
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intending to.
So where do I have to go fromthere.
I have to say, okay, I'mintending to step into that new
awareness, but now I've got tomake a decision.
I have to decide.
Decide is not the same aschoose.
Choose means pick one, decideday of or from, decide to cut.
So when I decide something, Icut myself off from or cut
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myself off of any otherpossibility.
This is what I'm going to do,this is what my life is going to
be about.
Nothing is going to stand in myway.
This is what I will accomplish.
I decide.
So I've got awareness, I've gotintention, I've got decision.
And then I've got discipline.
So discipline is what keeps mefrom breaking the covenant to
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myself of my intention, of mydecision.
So discipline is what keeps mefrom breaking the covenant I
made with myself when I made adecision, because the word
covenant and the word decideboth mean to cut.
So when I decide something, I'mmaking a covenant with me,
right?
Which means I would rather dieand keep my word to myself than
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live and break it.
That's a decision, okay.
So now I've got my awareness, Ibecame aware of something I was
unaware of.
I set an intention on this newthing, I've decided to do it,
and now I've got discipline,which means I'm not going to let
myself off this hook.
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Like I decided, I am going tostart my day with exercise
instead of hot bath, cold plunge, hot bath and then shower.
So it's going to start my daywith exercise instead of hot
bath, cold plunge, hot bath andthen shower.
So it's going to be workout,shower, get dressed, go to work,
cold plunge.
All that other stuff's going tohave to wait until sometime
later in the day.
Why I had to make getting inthe shape I desire to be in and
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having the health I desire tohave my number one priority,
even though exercise hasn't beenmy number one priority since I
was in high school.
Okay, but it was my number onepriority in high school.
Other kids were eating lunch.
I would go to the weight roomand lift weights.
So, okay, so so now I've gotattention.
I mean not attention, awareness, intention, decision,
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discipline, recognition.
I take time to acknowledge whatmy new awareness, my new
intention, my decision and mydiscipline have gotten me.
That's why, even though I don'tlose weight every day, I weigh
myself every single morning.
Why?
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Because that way I can stay ontop of it.
I weigh myself every day, but Iwould have been away.
I don't care about that.
I weigh myself every day.
Why?
That's part of my discipline.
Does that make sense?
So this morning, now yesterday,I rode my assault bike for 30
minutes.
The day before that, I rode myassault bike for 25 minutes.
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This morning, the first thing Idid was rode my assault bike
for 30 minutes.
Tomorrow morning, the firstthing I'm going to do I'm going
to wake up at 5 o'clock in themorning.
I'm going to get dressed, I'mgoing to go downstairs, I'm
going to go out on my patio andI'm going to ride my assault
bike for 30 minutes, listeningto music, making my heart rate,
getting my heart rate up above150 beats a minute, sweating
like a crazy person.
I'm tomorrow morning, but I'mgoing to have a towel around my
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neck, even though it's not hotout there, cause I'm going to
wipe all the sweat off my face.
I am going to do that before Ido anything Right?
So that's my discipline, but I'mgoing to recognize that I did
that.
And guess what?
Guess what?
I'm going to recognize it next,tomorrow morning, when I step
on the scale, because I alsohave my workout, my tonal
workout, and my weighted vestworkout.
That I'm going to do when I gethome.
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So I know tomorrow, like yes,two days ago, two days ago I
weighed 187 pounds.
This morning I weighed 183.7.
Tomorrow it'll be less.
Tomorrow it'll be less.
So I recognize.
Why am I recognizing?
So that I can acknowledge thatmy awareness and my intention
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and my decision and mydiscipline are not a waste of my
time.
It's very hard for us to workon something that we don't
acknowledge is working.
And then, lastly, so afterawareness, intention, decision,
discipline and recognition, thelast one is celebration,
celebration.
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Okay, so when I get to 170pounds and my blood pressure is
like 116 over 65, I'll celebrate.
How am I going to celebrate?
I don't know, but I'm going tofind something fun to do and
I'll figure out what that islong before I get there, before
you do.
You see what I'm saying Isomething fun to do and I'll
figure out what that is longbefore I get there.
You see what I'm saying.
I do, I do.
Now, the transition is lockedin, uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Where I see the.
I guess the difficult part ofit is we assume that we have
enough or we built this musclethat you talked about before, of
self-discipline, to be able todo all these things.
So I have my awareness, I havemy attention, I've made my
decision.
Now I get to the disciplinething.
Do I need help?
Do I need to solicit people ifI haven't developed?
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Maybe it depends on your personality and who you are
, but really, discipline means Ido what I'm supposed to do,
when I'm supposed to do it, theway I'm supposed to do it, and I
do it that way every time I doit.
That's discipline, like, for me.
I'm a very autonomous person.
I don't like asking forpermission.
I don't like people pretendingthat they have the right to give
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me permission.
So for me, like, I don't need aworkout partner, I don't need
an accountability buddy.
When I make a decision and I'mdisciplined, it's a wrap, it's
as good as done, like.
So it depends on who you are,but I but I think.
I think the answer to thequestion you're asking me,
though, is a different and is adifferent answer because there's
a, there's a.
I think there's a betterquestion you can ask than do I
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need?
What do I need?
Like, somebody to hold myselfaccountable to?
Here's what you need.
Here's the thing that's goingto create the.
You have to become aware of thehigh cost of not making that
decision, setting that intention.
Okay, right.
So recently, a very, very dearfriend of mine last Thursday in
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fact, he had a brain aneurysmand I went to see him in the
hospital and he's unconsciousand his family's there and
they're in tears and basicallythe doctors have already told
them there's nothing they can do.
And his wife told me that hesuffered from high blood
pressure since he was a kid.
Basically, right, and I'm like,okay, maybe, like, like my
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blood pressure is high, thatcould be me.
And so I got a clear vision ofwhat not having this intention,
I got a very clear awareness ofwhat not having this intention
and not making this decision andnot having this discipline is
going to look like for me and myfamily if I don't make these
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hard choices right now.
See, the problem is people havethis Pollyanna picture of how
good life's going to be whenthey achieve the thing.
They don't have a crucify myflesh picture of how terrible
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life is going to be if theydon't.
They don't have right.
So, like for me, not eatingpork easy, because when I think
of eating the flesh of ascavenger animal, whether it's
pork, shrimp, lobster it's likeeating flies and roaches to me,
because they're the same thingin the animal kingdom that flies
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and roaches are in the insectkingdom.
Like, why would I put that inmy mouth?
Why would I eat something thateats its own feces.
I'm not going to do that Right.
So that's not hard.
Not eating pork is not hard forme, that's easy.
You know what's hard for me Notgoing to restaurants that's
hard for me.
I like restaurant food.
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It's not that I like restaurantfood as much as I like the idea
of somebody serving me.
I like the idea of somebodybringing me food and sitting on
the table before me and thencleaning up my mess when I'm
done.
I know that sounds allbougie-fied, I get it, but I
like it.
I like me and my wife going todinner and sitting down and
eating dinner and not having tothink about preparing food,
(50:42):
cooking food, setting a table,cleaning a table running a
dishwasher?
No, just go sit down.
They feed you.
You go home, then you hang outwith the person you love the
most.
Sign me up for that program.
Does that make sense?
Most people are not reallyreally good at painting in vivid
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colors the really ugly pictureof how terrible life is going to
be if they don't get this thingdone.
I don't want to be laying in thehospital with my chest cracked
open because I couldn't say noto restaurant food.
So guess what I've decided todo for the next 10 days.
Couldn't say no to restaurantfood, so guess what I've decided
to do for the next 10 days.
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Just eat raw fruits andvegetables and my protein shake
and no other other than myprotein shake.
No processed food for the next10 days at least, maybe longer,
and drink water Like no sugarybeverages.
No insulin spiking foods otherthan fruit.
Some fruit I'll eat.
I'll eat three pieces of fruitper day and my protein shake.
Other than that, it's all rawfruits and vegetables.
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I'm good with that.
I'll make my own salad dressingfrom scratch and I'll make it
from vegetables, spices andfruit juice.
I'm just done.
Why?
Because I love my family.
I just don't want to put myfamily.
I want to live my life like alight bulb Shine as brightly as
(52:08):
I can for as long as I possiblycan, and one day I burn out and
it's a wrap.
This whole idea that you haveto get sicker as you get older
is a myth, but it's a myth thattoo many people bought into.
I am stronger now than I waswhen I was 30.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
I'm in better shape now than I was when I was 30.
That is so cool.
And how will you celebrate that?
Like, because I know you knowpart of your progression here
you made the decision, you'redoing, you're doing the thing,
and then have you alreadythought about how you celebrate
the?
Or is just life because you getto be that?
No, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
I haven't thought about it yet, but I'm going to.
I'll figure that out before Iget there.
I may fly myself to someamazing location and play three
rounds of golf at Punta Espadaand La Cana and Caracas in the
DR, or something.
It'll be a major celebration,oh sweet.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
I really want, before we end, is to talk about your
faith and what's your beliefsystem that has now been able to
help you, or everything that'sbeen able to allow you to
accomplish the things thatyou've accomplished, and why
that's so important.
I know you do biblicalprinciples with what we're doing
, with what you do biblicalprinciples and business at the
(53:22):
same time, and you combine themwith what other people don't do.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Talk about that a little bit.
Well, I do combine them, butGod combined them originally.
I'm just.
All I'm doing is God has thebest content.
I just repeat his content.
People think I'm smart, eventhough I tell them, hey, I
didn't make this up, I got itfrom God.
Like who let you use it tooRight?
It's like I don't have a corneron the market on that stuff.
You know, it's like I don'thave a corner on the market on
(53:46):
that stuff.
So business is a good ideabecause business is a God idea.
I received Christ when I was 16years old.
That's not religion, that'slike I received and trusted in
the death, burial andresurrection of Jesus Christ for
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my eternal life as my fullpayment for eternal life.
Not some good deed.
I did not some church attended,not some baptism, not something
that I do Literally.
I am not trusting in MyronGolden's good deeds for my
relationship with God.
I'm trusting in God's gooddeeds for my relationship with
God.
I'm trusting in what Jesus didwas enough and then, because he
did that for me, I have a desireto live my life for him and I
do not desire to misrepresenthim, because he is my king and
(54:26):
because he is my king.
He has already told me in hisword that he desires to make me
the king of my thing, and so Iserve a king who wants to make
me a king.
There's another king.
He's a fake king.
He's called Satan, the devil,the enemy, the adversary.
He's a king that wants to makepeople a slave, the adversary.
(54:49):
He's a king that wants to makepeople a slave, and then he
wants to use the people who he'smade slaves to build his
kingdom, and he works them likea three-legged mule until they
die.
I'm glad I served the real king, and so I don't want to
misrepresent my king by notruling well over my kingdom
assignment, which he assigned meto, and so that's where my
faith comes into play.
(55:10):
I don't do this biblical Biblestuff as a ploy because I think
it's going to make me some moneyif I throw the word kingdom in
what I do.
I do it because I discoveredthat this is God's plan.
The kingdom of God is a familybusiness.
How do I know that?
Because Jesus said know ye notthat I must be about my father's
(55:32):
business.
I must work the work of himthat sent me while in his day,
for the night cometh, when noman can work.
So I do what I do the way I doit, because I believe that's the
way God intended for it to bedone.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
Oh man, thank you.
Thank you so much for that.
What didn't I in the next twominutes before we finished?
What did I not talk about?
That you wanted to make sure.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
I don't know, man.
I mean you opened the box, bro,and a whole bunch of stuff
jumped out.
Yeah, I don't know that.
We didn't talk about anything.
If people want to know more,they can find me on YouTube
under my name, myron Golden, orInstagram, my name, myron Golden
.
I think this is one thing thatwe didn't talk about.
If somebody, pretending to be me, attempts to sell you some
(56:21):
crypto investment thing, it'snot me.
I don't offer.
If somebody on social mediamessages you and tries to get
you to buy something, it's neverme.
Now I do sell stuff.
I've got my books my Boss Movesbook on bossmovesbookcom.
I've got my other book, trashman to Cash man, at
trashmandocashmancom.
I've got my Make More OffersChallenge at
(56:42):
makemoreofferschallengecom.
But I won't message you onInstagram or TikTok or YouTube
to attempt to get you to buy it.
Like it's out there for peopleto find and when they find it
and they want it, more power tothem.
But I don't inbox people andmake them offers.
So if somebody does that,they're scamming.
They're scamming you.
Don't let somebody use my nameto scam you out of your
(57:03):
hard-earned money.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
Oh my gosh, thank you .
This has been so incredible.
Thank you for being on.
I have my first challenge nextweek, so I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
My first offers I'm teaching people how to do
podcasting.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
And how to make it happen, and so I can't wait for
that to happen.
This is, you know, when I thinkabout folks that are in my
world and have had influence onme, and you know, I would say
you're one of those folks and itwas such a pleasure to go.
Ok, these are my heroes, theseare my people, because you teach
(57:41):
in a way that I was able tolearn, teach in a way that I was
able to take the information,absorb the information and then
make it my own, and so just thefact that you're here with me
today, we will spend more timetogether.
I know that no matter what, butI can't wait to emulate some of
(58:03):
the things that you've beenable to help me do.
So I wanted to just say thankyou for doing that.
For those of you guys who arejust watching this for the first
time and this is the one thereis so many of these really good
episodes where I'm justinterviewing folks that have
been successful, folks that areworking on their own lives,
whether it's somebody who is,you know, like a black
(58:23):
helicopter pilot, first one inthe army, or somebody who's been
to prison, who's become apastor for the last 34 years and
made a difference as aprominent attorney there's so
many ways that we can besuccessful in life.
I think Myron just stepped usthrough.
Oh man, some just incrediblethings intention, be, do, have,
and all those wonderful thingsthat I hope you take advantage
(58:43):
of watching these Hit, whateverthe YouTube things that you do
subscribe, and I can't wait forit to talk to you on the next
one.
So don't forget that you wereGod's greatest gift he loves you
, if you allow him to, and we'lllook for.
Look forward to talking to youon the next one.
You guys have an amazing, justincredible day today.
All right, thank you, brother.
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