From Helicopter Flyovers to Presidential Travel: Daryl Williams Leadership Story

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The journey from the streets of Compton to the corridors of the White House might seem impossible, but Daryl Williams shows us that leadership built on trust can take you anywhere. Growing up during the era dramatized in "Boys in the Hood," with helicopters circling overhead nightly, Daryl found his path forward through military service—a decision that would transform his life in ways he never imagined.

Through an extraordinary career that saw him rise through military ranks to eventually support presidential administrations, Daryl shares the leadership principles that guided his ascent. What's truly remarkable isn't just where he ended up, but how he led along the way. His leadership philosophy—taking responsibility when things went wrong while giving his team credit for successes—created an environment where trust flourished naturally.

The conversation unveils powerful insights about mentorship and the responsibility great leaders have to develop the next generation. As Daryl eloquently puts it, "The greatest leaders are evidenced by how many leaders came from what they did." His own transformation was sparked by mentors who made him feel valued, something he deliberately paid forward throughout his career.

Beyond professional achievements, Daryl offers wisdom about maintaining positive mental health, balancing faith with leadership effectiveness, and the importance of checking in on others during challenging times. His leadership toolkit—loyalty, discipline, respect, selfless service, honor, integrity, and personal courage—provides a framework anyone can adopt regardless of their current position.

Whether you're looking to enhance your leadership capabilities or find inspiration in an extraordinary journey of perseverance and purpose, this conversation delivers profound lessons about how serving others ultimately creates the pathway to personal success. Connect with Daryl through Alliance Seminars Coaching to continue learning from his wealth of experience.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
So, basically, as a leader, I set the parameters of.
This is what I expect.
This is also what you're goingto get from me, you know.
Whatever you need to besuccessful, that's what I'm here
for.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay, welcome to another exciting edition of the
Journey to Freedom podcast.
And I am Dr B, I'm your hosttoday, and, as I get excited
every time I get to do one ofthese and I was literally just
sitting down and I was thinkingabout the podcast, I was

(00:45):
thinking about what can I do toenhance it, what can I do to
make it better, what can I do toget more subscribers and more
listeners, because that's whatwe all want, right?
We all want the whole world tolisten to our podcast.
And I was just thinking abouthow blessed I have been to be
able to do this podcast, becauselast year in 2024, I went to a

(01:08):
meeting.
It was about a year and a halfago.
I went to this meeting.
It was called the Living or theTrusted Edge podcast, and it
was or not podcast, it was justTrusted Edge seminar.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
And a guy named David Hortzanger.
He was in Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Minneapolis.
I don't go to Minneapolis toooften, but I was in Minneapolis
and you know a friend had takenme there and there was this
group of about 500 folks therethat were learning about
leadership and how to how tointeract with trust and how
important trust is, and we haveto start with trust and you know
, I used to call myself.

(01:41):
You know, a person who said,well, people would say, well, I
need to see somebody who lookslike me in order to know that I
can do the thing, or at leastsimilar right.
And I said, well, I don't needthat, it doesn't matter what I
do, I'm going to be successfulat whatever I do.
I don't need to see people wholook like me.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
But every time I go to a room, like this.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Right, I'm counting one, two, three, four People.
Look at me, I'm just foolingmyself, thinking I don't care.
Well, I go to this seminar andthere's 400 people.
There's only about 30 people ofcolor in the room and I'm
trying to ask myself why, andI'm thinking about the different
rooms I've been in.
And why are we?
Because we have trouble.

(02:19):
We have issues with trust as aculture.
We have issues with trustingourselves.
We have trust for men.
We have issues with trustingourselves.
We have trust for men.
We have trust issues with ourwomen.
We have trust issues with ourown community and then the white
community as well, and otherraces.
We just don't trust.
And I don't know if it'sbecause we haven't taught to
trust, it's because we've beenburned a few times in our lives

(02:42):
when we try to trust.
And so I said how can I comeback?
And so I started Journey toFreedom as a coaching program to
say how do we get into thistrust, how do we get into this
thing?
And I said, well, in year one,I don't know what other men
think, I don't know how theyinteract, and so let me
interview and start finding out.

(03:02):
And so I said I'm going tointerview 100 black men in 2024.
And then I started doing it andgo, that's a lot.
I'm not going to get to 100black men.
And how am I going to find allthese men?
Because I want them to besuccessful, I want them to be
pillars of the community.
And when I started thinking ofwhat does the success mean and

(03:23):
trying to define success right,because success isn't the amount
of money you have, it's notyour ability to communicate,
it's not your you know, it's alot of what you do in the
community.
And then you go back and dopeople respect you?
And you know, you know, wouldsomebody say, I want to talk to
Daryl Williams, go talk to himbecause he's got answers To me,

(03:45):
that's successful.
That's the person you want togo.
If they say, no matter what,don't go talk to daryl because
he's not going to tell youanything, but then you're not in
that success group, I agree.
What I found out is, as I youknow, did one person or two
people and I got some famouspeople in there, some non-famous
people know, did one person ortwo people and I got some famous

(04:07):
people in there, somenon-famous people been some, I
guess, themes.
One of the things is the one Isaid looking, trying to see
people who look like us and soin a role that we could do.
Another thing was it had beenfatherhood and what it means to
be a dad and being excited aboutbeing a dad, uh.
But I would say, more thananything, it's our ability to
live in purpose and serve others.

(04:28):
And when you're willing toserve others, success just kind
of goes in.
And so I got to do.
I ended up doing one hundredand five last year.
I've done almost 40 this year.
I don't want to stop because Iget to grow, I get to learn, I
get to know, like a couple weeksago I interviewed a gentleman

(04:49):
from Chicago who was in prisonfor 19 years as a result.
But here's what the kicker ishe was in jail the day that the
crime was committed.
That put him in prison for 19years and it took him 19 years
to let this man out of jail.
I mean you just go, oh my, butto see his heart.

(05:12):
I mean he's been out of jailfor 11 years now and he's one of
the most thankful people andgratitude and not mad and
forgiving.
And I'm like you put me in jailfor one year, I won't be mad,
forget 20 years.
How do you do it?
But I learned and I grew, andso all of these interviews are

(05:34):
so fun to do.
Today we have Daryl Williams on,and just before the show we
were just talking about being anexcited life.
Sometimes we do things and wedo it well, but it doesn't mean
it doesn't stop beingchallenging.
It doesn't mean that we get toour.

(05:55):
I've been doing this for 15years and so I just show up and
I'm on autopilot.
If you do stuff that makes yousuccessful, you get in positions
where there's a reason whyyou're successful.
People are asking you questions, people are putting you in
positions that they want answers, and Daryl is that guy.
But we're going to start out,before we chop it up and all

(06:17):
those cool things, we're justgoing to talk about his story
and where he came from.
Because another thing I found is, in all these stories, I'll ask
somebody, somebody to tell metheir you know, you know who are
you, and they'll just give metheir bio.
They tell me everything aboutwhat they do, but when they tell
you their story, then you knowthem a little bit better,
because it's not, it's not.
Well, I, you know, I went toharvard and I went to harvard.

(06:39):
You know that.
I don't see that I'll changemy've changed my voice, like
people who talk from Harvard.
Right, right, right, what Idon't know, you know, but you
just go.
No, wait a minute, where didyou come from?
Well, I came from X and X and X, and then how did you progress
through that?
I think that's what people loveto hear more than anything.
And so here we go.
We got Darrell.

(07:05):
Please share with us your storyin the best way that you can
tell.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Sure, first of all, thanks for having me Dr B
Appreciate being on here today.
My story, basically, I wouldhave started from high school.
I grew up in Compton,california, so those that saw
the movie Boys in the Hood, thatwas the era that I actually
grew up in Compton, california,so those that saw the movie Boys
in the Hood, that was the erathat I actually grew up in.
And my brothers and sister grewup during the era straight out

(07:31):
of Compton.
So growing up there, you know,just wanted to figure out you
know what's my purpose in life?
What else is out here?
It's got to be more thanhelicopters flying over your
house every night.
Purpose in life what else isout here?
It's got to be more thanhelicopters flying over your
house every night.
And for me that journey beganwith the military.
I ended up meeting.
I ended up meeting a recruitermy junior year and had no

(07:55):
intention on joining themilitary.
And the guy came to me.
He was asking you know whatthey normally do?
What's your plans?
And I think I made up something, dr b, like I'm going to go to
university of arkansas and studybusiness, and just seemed like
this guy just opened up a bookand said just how much it cost
to go to university of arkansas.

(08:16):
And then the family I grew upin it was four of us in a small
apartment and, it's a matter offact, I knew it never should
have been an apartment becauseit was too small, because when I
went back to go visit um afterduring the military, they tore
it down.
So I knew it was that small.
Yeah, it was real small, just alittle something.
Somebody sold just to getpeople in there.
But, um, yeah, once that guyopened up the book and showed me

(08:40):
, like this, how much it costsgo to college, I was like, okay,
my grades are nice, but moneyis not even an option.
We don't have it like that.
And I just started getting realserious like, okay, tell me
about this military thing.
And the more he talked about itI was like you know what that
might be my way out.
So for me, I'm not joining themilitary.
The job specialty people wouldcall it today is human resources

(09:05):
Professional, and once I didthat, it's interesting because
all of my brothers and sistersfollowed suit because I was the
oldest, so they all joined themilitary as well, which lets me
know that.
You know people are watching,watching you, whether you think
they are or not.

(09:26):
Then I joined the military umwent to germany my first
assignment.
I just wanted to get as faraway from the united states as
possible just to see somethingdifferent, and then from there
went to germany and then amilitary doctor b.
They have different ways thatthey kind of see what type of
stud you are.
However, you want to call itsuperstar, and one of the things

(09:48):
is if you're good in physicalfitness Right, they kind of like
that.
And then also if you have a lotof military knowledge, right,
those two things that kind ofmove you ahead of the line.
Besides, you know being a greatsoldier and all that.
So I used to go to thesecompetition boards because
somebody said that's the way toget promoted, and I went to
every board that I could and Iwent all the way to soldier of

(10:11):
the year for my region.
I didn't win, but I told peopleI still had a great time.
Some senior leaders saw me.
I had an assignment to go toFort Hood Texas after Germany.
Some senior leaders saw me andassigned me to go to Fort Hood
Texas, out to Germany, and oneof those senior leaders said,
basically, I see something inyou.
I'm changing your orders.

(10:35):
You're not going to Fort Hood,texas, you're going to the
Pentagon.
And I'm like, why am I going tothe Pentagon?
Nope, the soldiers don't go toplaces like that.
But I didn't know, dr B.
He was preparing me for apurpose that I didn't know about
and basically what he told mewas it takes special people to
go to what they call specialassignments and I think there's
something in you that can allowyou to thrive there.
And um went to the pentagon.

(10:56):
Um, it was nice, it wasdifferent, but it just wasn't
what I was used to, right, I wasused to the marching and all
that type of stuff and to be ina place where it was self uh
motivating and, you know, youdidn't have to show up in
formations.
It was just new to me and I wasjust too inexperienced to
realize how good I had it.

(11:16):
So I spent a lot of time justtrying to get out of there and
go to a regular unit, um, andeventually I saw an ad for the
White House CommunicationsAgency and a friend of mine
we're scheming and that's reallywhat we're doing.
We were scheming, dr B.
It was like if we go to thisinterview Friday morning
finished by 10, we can be offfor the rest of the day.

(11:39):
Had no intentions on joining,had no int-, didn't even know
what they did and a couple ofmonths later I get a note saying
congratulations, you've beenaccepted to the White House
Communications Agency.
I'm like, oh my gosh, what isthis?
What do they do?
White House, oh my gosh, yep.
So come to find out.
When you see the presidenttraveling right, there's

(12:01):
different groups that supporthim.
There's Secret Service, whicheverybody's familiar with.
There's different groups thatsupport him.
There's Secret Service, whicheverybody's familiar with.
There's White House staff, andthen there's the White House
Military Office and we fallunderneath that group, which is
the White House CommunicationsAgency, which basically any
piece of equipment that theadministration touches comes

(12:21):
from, basically our organization.
We make sure that they can talksecure any place, at any time,
anywhere, and once you get there, they take your normal job that
you have in the military, butthen they also give you
auxiliary jobs.
So since I was anon-communications IT person,

(12:41):
they took my HR background andsaid well, we're going to make
you kind of like a logisticscoordinator.
You're going to coordinatetrips, be in charge of the teams
logistically.
You still had an officer orcommunication officer that was
over the teams.
But I was kind of like thatright-hand person, so just being
able to travel all over theworld.
At that time I got there withBush, senior within office.

(13:01):
Then it changed over to Clintonand I just traveled all over
just supporting the teams thatsupported the office of the
president.
Just an amazing opportunity toplace up, able to travel all
over the world, did that forabout six years and I left, went
to Korea for about a year 501stin my brigade, just you know,

(13:23):
military intelligence unit.
I do that for a year.
501st in my brigade, just youknow, military intelligence unit
.
I did that for a year.
Then they brought me back tothe White House because of my
clearance and then at that timeI was traveling on a different
roster supporting the vicepresident.
So now I'm actually in chargeof the smaller teams.
So at that time vice presidentGore was in office.
Then when he left, vicePresident Cheney came in and I

(13:45):
supported Cheney until about2004 when I ended up retiring
out of the military and I justgot a job at the contractor for
about five years teachingleadership and things of that
nature, and then I started mybusiness, which was Alliance
Seminars, coaching, whichbasically just my way of paying

(14:08):
it forward.
Because of all the differentthings I experienced.
It was like I cannot share whatI learned and help other people
based on my experiences.
So that's kind of my story.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
No, I love it.
There's so many questions thatI have, because most people
never even understand your lifeor what you could have been able
to do.
I think a kid in Compton in the80s and early days, whatever
going, not even knowing that theWhite House is just a picture

(14:43):
in a book that you know becauseyou're on the other side of the
United States.
You're not even on the EastCoast where you visit DC, maybe
if you'll get family or once ortwice, but no, you hardly get to
the beach right, because youlive by the beach in the West
Coast, right, and you'rethinking the White House that's
the president, that's like theperson who runs our country, and

(15:04):
what it makes me go to is ouridentity, right, and the
identity that we hold forourselves and how that is shaped
and how that is formed.
Because your identity, if we'reable to become a person that we
need to be in order to do thething, there's got to be a
transformation and I think somepeople, especially, especially
nowadays, want thattransformation to happen like

(15:27):
that.
But there's no way you're a kidin compton that gets to go to
the white house without goingthrough some identities, just in
who you are.
So maybe you can kind of sharewhat that was like, you know and
what you learned and who thepeople were, the things that
happened that allowed you tobecome that man that you are
today and to be able to betrusted, you know, with the

(15:51):
highest clearance available.
You know, to be able to work atwhat it is.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Well, one of the things I definitely learned
probably that prepared me beforeI even got there was just being
in Germany and, like you said,growing up in Compton, like I
knew what was around me, I knewI had to keep my head on a
swivel.
I knew I had limited choices asfar as you're going to draw in
a game, you're going to selldrugs or you're going to be in

(16:16):
sports or whatever, and I was,like you know, I'm somewhere in
the middle of all of that.
So, just being able to, when Iwent germany to see these men
that were leaders, that's whatreally just piqued my interest.
Like, what is a leader?
Why are these guys have so muchrank on their shoulder, you

(16:36):
know?
Why are their boots so shinyand their uniforms?
Look like you can cut yourfinger on it, like I want to do
to do that.
What does it take to get that?
So I think for me thetransformation started.
I had to see something that wasout there that I didn't know
existed, and that was leadership.
And for me, I've always beenfascinated with that topic,

(16:58):
because I find that that topiccan lead you to a lot of
different things, particularlythe five pillars that you talk
about.
So then, by the time I got tothe wine house, once I got past,
a shock and awe.
I immediately started thinkingabout OK, how do I survive here?

(17:21):
How do I make it?
How do I excel?
Because maybe they might findout oh, this is a mistake, send
this guy back to the regulararmy.
How does somebody from Comptonget to, basically from the hood
to the house?
That just doesn't happen.
I immediately surrounded myselfwith people and I was like hey
man, what does it take to be thebest here?
Not just to be here, but to bethe best.

(17:43):
As I traveled, I saw differentpeople, some that you know, some
that look like me, some thatdidn't look like me, but they
were really good at what theydid.
And I made it a point, dr B, topick all those individuals'
brains right.
Guys, young ladies, like whyare you so good at what you do?
Why is it that when they sayyour name going on a trip,

(18:04):
people get excited?
So I was doing kind of like myown internal research of what is
it that made these people tick?
What made them be the best?
Only the top one percent of theservers even get to serve for
the White House CommunicationsAgency.
So even within that one percent, there's still a pedestal there
of now who's the best radiolead, who's the best operations

(18:27):
NCO?
Now who's the best radio lead,who's the best operations nco?
Who's the best?
Artificially, like, I wanted tobe the best and I think what
helped me was being able to talkto those people, take honest
feedback, honest criticism, tosay, hey, if you want to be the
best, this is what it's going totake, and I I just took on that
challenge.
I loved it and, like you saidwhen we were talking before the

(18:52):
show, you end up becoming one ofthose go-to people and people
always ask you well, when didyou know you were a leader?
I was like for me, I think itcame when other people were
asking me different questionsabout how to help them in
different things, or how did Iget promoted, or what would I
recommend.
And they could have went to alot of other people.
But when they start coming toyou, that kind of lets you know

(19:12):
that there's something inside ofyou that people see.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Was there something that you know and I'm through
your, your childhood and stuffthat made you decide I want to
be the best?
You know, when I think about mychildhood, think about I didn't
have the best grades.
In fact, I was a special edstudent that you know.
I could care less about gradesa kid, you know and then I got

(19:38):
to be able to be an athlete andstart competing in.
You know I wanted to be thebest there.
But then just you know whatmakes us that switch, that turns
on, that says you know whatmediocrity isn't going to be my
life.
Can you pinpoint that to anyword?
Just god just gave that to you.

(19:59):
What, yeah, what is it?
What did you see or hear thatsaid I can't't continue to do
this below the rim?
You know I think about playingabove the rim, right?
So what made you start wantingto play above the rim?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
I think for me, like I said, it was first that visual
when I got to Germany to seeall these sharp leaders and it's
like no matter where they,where they were, you know, you
see the shiny boots, you see thenice uniform and you're like I
want that, like how do I grow todo that?
And then when I got to thewhite authentication agency, it

(20:35):
was like okay, now, everybody'sgood right.
It's like everybody's anall-star right.
So now, how do you become thestar of stars?
And I think for me that was achallenge.
It was like all these peoplethat are showing me how to do it
it's almost like a kobe bryantmentality.
It's like, yeah, I respect you,but I'm going to carve out my
own path.
And I think that was it for me.

(20:58):
And then the other part too,you know, on the back of my mind
, was okay, you're out ofcompton eventually you're going
to meet people flying on AirForce Two and out there in
different places.
Everybody oh so where are youfrom?
Where'd you grow up?
And just when I would tellpeople I was from Compton, I
didn't say LA, I was like I'mfrom Compton.
Almost everybody said how didyou get out of there?

(21:20):
Like that was the commonquestion from a lot of people.
How did you get out of there?
Like that was the commonquestion, uh, from a lot of
people.
How did you get out of there?
So, after a while, I was likehow?
did I get out of there like Imean, everybody has a hood,
everybody has places.
That's not as glamorous, I said, but still, life is life.
So I think the more I heardthat question, the more I wanted

(21:40):
to show people this is how, allright, and I would tell them.
I'm just fortunate that I hadopportunity that other people
did not have, because I tellpeople all the time I used to go
to class with some gangbangers.
They were smarter than me andthe few times they would come to
class and I forget this one guy, man, he was so sharp.
He only come to class every nowand then and we're in like I

(22:05):
don't know if it was thegeometry class or something.
He show up, sit in the back andI'm like trying to figure out
this.
Formulas on the board.
I'm halfway through the formula, dr b, and he's like, oh, x
equals four.
I'm like, wait, how'd you getthat?
And he told me how it was.
I'm finished, finished on myform.
I'm like dude, like that's it.
You should come here like everyday and make the teacher look

(22:29):
bad and make us look bad.
But he was like, no, that's notmy thing, right, that's for
people like you.
I know what I want to do, andthis ain't it.
So part of me also was I wantto be good, to represent those
individuals that didn't have theopportunity that I had.
I want to be good to representthose individuals that didn't
have the opportunity that I had.
So I had a lot on my shoulders.

(22:52):
Maybe I put it there it wasn'tthere, but it was just.
I want to represent my city, Iwant to represent my family.
Right, competitive juices, likeyou said.
You know, started meetingpeople that were just as good as
me.
Ok, now, how do I get betterthan that person?

Speaker 2 (23:03):
so I think it was a lot of things that allowed me to
kind of go through thattransformation wow, well, and I
love, I love how you took youknow them asking the question,
because somehow your identityyou weren't going to let your
identity be tied to what peoplethink the city you grew up in
was like, because they don'tknow, they haven't been there.

(23:24):
Right, hollywood, because itit's in Burbank.
I went to school at ZuzupSymphony University, so I moved
from Denver to California and Istayed there for 25 years and so
I was a track coach and I spenta lot of time back and forth in
Compton.
But I know what the portrayalof the medium is of Compton.
I know some really incrediblepeople that are from Compton.

(23:46):
Right, that just happened tolive in the city.
That turned into this beliefthat, well, you must be super
special, because if you aren'tstill in Compton as if everybody
who ever lived there is stillthere, you know, and you look at
that and go well, wait a minute.
No, I had some great peoplethat are around me.

(24:08):
I had a community of people.
Whether I lived in a smallplace or a big space, I had a
community of people.
Not all of it was good, not allof it was bad, but I chose to
make sure that I'm going torepresent my community and I'm
going to do the best that Ipossibly can, because you've
already you've already decidedwho I was based on, where I grew

(24:31):
up.
You know there's so many.
You know what you call thejungle, or pretty green, or you
know all you think about all thedifferent.
You know low-incomeneighborhoods that are in the
United States.
And you almost you know, I guess, identify people based on well,
you know, either you are notwhite or you are.
You know, but no, you just saidI'm going to be the best.

(24:55):
I want to kind of shift over totrust because you know, as I
was telling you before the show,this thing called trust is such
a big deal We've got to startwith trust, lead with trust, and
you're a leader.
Trusting people has to besomething that you navigate.
What's kind of cool for me inyour story is people trusted you

(25:17):
Because of why?
Because you don't get to workin the White House and they
don't trust you.
They don't trust your integrity, they don't trust your
character, they don't trust thatyou're going to walk out of
there without taking a statuewith you, whatever it is, based
on Asian Compton, we better youknow.
So how do you just trust inyour own belief and trust people

(25:41):
before you know it and then yougive them the benefit of the
doubt?
And then I guess the other sideof this that I don't usually
get to ask my guest is what didyou do to get people to trust
you?

Speaker 1 (25:55):
so this is the big piece about leadership that I
love.
Every leader that I've met inthe, the military and outside
the military um, they have a lotof different characteristics,
right, that make up a leader,and everybody can come up with
their own.
But trust is obviously one ofthose things.
So, for me, when people ask melike, how do you get people to

(26:15):
trust you?
And to me it was simple youlook out for them.
It's no, no magic formula.
It's now you know so many years.
It's like from day one, everytrip that I went on, we had a
different team, so I had toalmost I reintroduce myself.
Every time I did a trip, I said, hey, you know, this is who I

(26:35):
am, this is where I'm from, thisis what we're going to do to be
successful before the vicepresident arrives.
Right, we're going to do this.
We're going to work to besuccessful before the vice
president arrives.
Right, we're going to do this.
We're going to work as a team,right, we're going to help each
other.
Right, I'm not too big and tooimportant to lift the box, so I
expect everybody else to liftthe box, right?
Uh, if my job is finished, I'mgonna go check on somebody else

(26:59):
right.
So, basically, as a leader, Iset the parameters of.
This is what I expect, but thisis also what you're going to
get from me.
And then the biggest thing Iwould tell them is you know,
whatever you need to besuccessful, that's what I'm here
for.
Like, I already have the rank,I already have the role, so
that's not going to change.
My job in this role is how do Iget the best out of Dr b on

(27:23):
this particular mission, on thisparticular trip?
And if dr b has a smaller team,how do I help dr b lead his
team?
And when I did that, itautomatically won.
The trust was there becausethey saw my actions matched
right.
What I said, the second thing Iused to do, dr b, was when

(27:45):
people would make mistakes onthe road it wasn't that many,
but stuff that they did make andwhether the military aid or the
people back in DC was like man.
What happened on that trip?
Like it was me, like I took thehit for when things didn't go
right, but when things went well, it's like man.
I heard that trip was hard andman, you pulled out some

(28:08):
miracles.
I said it wasn't me, it wasactually Dr B.
I would give the team thecredit when they did well, but I
took the credit when it wasn'twell.
And then team members would comeup to me and say, hey, why
didn't you die me out?
Why didn't you tell them thetruth?
I was like because I don't wantpeople to label you just

(28:28):
because you had one bad incident, one bad trip.
That's not who you are.
Right, I know that inside ofyou you had a mistake.
You're going to grow from it.
You're going to learn from it.
Right, I said, but sometimes inlife people don't give you that
second chance and I didn't wantyou to have to be that Person,
to be a situation where I madeone mistake and everybody says,

(28:50):
oh, watch out for dr B on thistrip, because that guy forgot to
do this or that guy had thisreputation and I would always do
that.
So the more I did that, justlike you said, the more my name
got out there.
That people like, hey, I wantto travel with that guy because
he looks out for people.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
What you're saying just means if people can just
and I hope you guys go back andyou watch and listen to some of
this if you're really trying tounderstand what it means to be a
leader right, because leadershave to serve and sometimes you
think, well, I've got to be likeMother Teresa or I've got to
serve and I've got to be thisbig organization.

(29:31):
I've got to serve millions ofpeople or hundreds of people.
If you can just serve oneperson at a time, and sometimes
not when they're doing theirbest, but you're willing to say
my job is every day that I'mgoing to get up, I'm going to
figure out a way to serve youthat begins to stack, and it

(29:52):
begins to stack and then peopletrust you and then they give you
more responsibility and youkeep doing that.
You develop what they call areputation, a reputation for not
just just it almost and you cantell me if I'm wrong or not.
It doesn't really mean with theskill set you have, it's your
ability to communicate withpeople and get stuff done.

(30:13):
You know, obviously you have tohave some skills that to be
doing what you're doing, but inthe long run people don't care.
I mean, we hear this all thetime care how much you know they
until they know how much youcare.
Then you get theresponsibilities, then you get
to move up, and if we could dothat right, I believe everybody
got up and said that everymorning.
You know who can I serve todayand find a way to do that.

(30:34):
Most of the issues in our worldare dead, like flat out complete
, done Without saying what areyou going to do for me today?
And I just love the fact thatyou've kind of figured that out
in relationships and so is someof that, just the way that you

(30:58):
listen or the way that you justcare about the person.
In most of your career, I guess, when I think not most of it,
but part of your career was likemine, where we didn't have
these devices in our face allthe time and not like literally
conversations where you'retrying to have.
You go to restaurants, you goto places and two people are
across from each other andthey're both doing this as if
the outside world is moreimportant.

(31:19):
How did you bring people in tobelieve that?
So they felt like they were themost important, because I feel
like that's what you do the mostimportant person during that
time right, I did, and I have togive all the credit to my
favorite mentor.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
I've had many over the years.
I still have them now, eventhough they tell me don't call
them mentor, call themcolleagues.
I'm like, yeah, but you don'tunderstand.
I always have a place for youas a higher esteem, right?
But this one guy, dr b, andthey were steve smith and man,
this guy, um talking about theultimate mentor, um, that story
about making a mistake andsomebody taking off, like he's

(31:57):
the first one that did that forme.
I got lost one time, justbefore gps and all that.
You had to find your own wayfrom the airport to the hotel
and get ready for the motorcadeset up and I got lost man and I
was like man, do I tell this guyI'm lost or do I try to fake it
and try to figure it out?
And I just told like hey, sir,I'm so sorry.

(32:18):
I ran this route five timesyesterday and I'm lost.
And he was like, don't worryabout it.
He said pull over.
We pulled over.
He went to somebody right thereand was like hey, how do we get
to the back of the Miamiairport?
And he gets back in the car andhe goes guy gave me the
directions, just go ahead and gothis way.
We'll go a different way.
And then, dr B, he proceeds togo.

(32:48):
So tell me a little bit moreabout you.
I'm freaking out dr b like dude, we're late, the motorcade is
going to be set up, they'regoing to be looking for our car
and he's just basically showedme who you are.
Right now is more importantthan us getting to this
motorcade.
He was like we're going to getto the motorcade I.
I just need to know who.
You know more about who you are, and all that.
And man to this day like thisis like 2025.
That happened back in 1991.

(33:08):
you still remember but I stillremember, like it was yesterday
and I asked him at the end ofthe day, I mean at the end of
the trip, like sir, why didn'tyou tell the people?
Because the people were askinglike, why did you got so late
what happened?
And he was like you know partlythe truth, we got.
And he was like you know partlythe truth, we got lost.
And he got us there.
That was his answer.

(33:29):
And I'm like, sir, why didn'tyou tell the truth?
And he told me the same thing Ijust told you.
And his warning to me was nowyou do that for somebody else.
So when he gave me thatinstruction, I'm like, like man,
this is like my number onementor.
Like every time I'm around thisdude, you know he's special,
he's making me feel special.
But then, dr b, I got the harshreality.

(33:51):
Like man, he makes everybodyfeel like that.
It's like everybody's like ohyeah, mrs smith is my guy.
Like no, he's my guy.
But then I realized thespecialness of what he did, and
it goes back to what you said.
Every time he spoke to you hemade you feel like you were the
guy you can do anything,whatever challenge you had.

(34:12):
You have to go through thischallenge because it's about to
take you to this next level andI was like I'm going to do that.
When he's not around, he's notin the room, I want to be that
guy that they go.
Man, mr Smith's not here.
I got a question oh D, comehere for a second.
And I just wanted to be that.
It was so cool because I got toa point where, you know, he

(34:35):
retired and left the agency andthen I came back but I was like,
you know, one of not D, but Iwas one of the Mr back but I was
like you know, one of not the,but I was one of the mr smiths
in my agency and I would tellpeople.
You know, there's a guy thatyou know was my mentor and I'm
just trying to do what he wouldhave done in today's time and it
was so cool and I had umbreakfast with him last month

(34:58):
because he still comes out to dc, because he's actually in
colorado actually still comesout to dc because he's actually
in colorado, actually, okay,okay, yep, and he comes.
He's cool dude man and we weretalking and here's how cool he
is, dr b.
I'm like, hey, so now, sir, youknow, just so you know, you
know, I was like the mr smith ofmy generation, right, let him

(35:18):
know, and I'm thanking him,right, for showing me that path
that he's like no, no, no, he'slike don't say it like that.
He's like you were the leaderfor your generation.
He's like there's only one mrsmith that was me.
He said you did things in yourown way.
You did things, uh, that Iprobably couldn't have done, but

(35:38):
you were still resourceful andyou were there for the people.
So being around people likethat, that's what makes me like
want to be that trustworthyCause.
Now I learned that it wasn'tabout helping people as much as.
That was one phase of yourleadership life.
The second phase is you got tocreate new leaders.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Duplication right, it isn't you just being there if
you don't have a heart forbringing up who's next?
Absolutely oh my gosh.
Yeah, I mean, you have it.
It's like so you can't die withthe person, and the greatest
leaders are evidenced by howmany leaders came from what they
did absolutely oh my gosh.

(36:29):
So.
So let's talk about the uh, the, mr williams, three to four
steps to developing leaders.
What are some of the like thesethings that you would say if
you want to develop leaders?
These are three or four thingsthat you must do in order to do
that.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
So one thing about the military they always change
up the leadership definitionover the years.
So the one they had back in myday.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I used that Because they don't use it anymore, so I
can claim it as my own now.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
There you go, the people that know, during that
time that serve, they know whatto talk about and that is
acronym of leadership right l uhd r s h I and the p?
Right for leadership.
And I tell anybody you want tobe a leader, definitely have
these things.
And that's loyalty, discipline,respect, selfless service,

(37:30):
honor, integrity and personalcourage.
To me, if you have all thosethings, there's no way you
cannot be an effective leader.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
And you have to develop each of those right.
I mean, it's not like you justwere born with them.
That's what people think.
Well, I was a natural bornleader.
I think just about everythingthat you do you learn.
When I was born, I didn't knownothing, I didn't know what my
hand was.
But those are skills that Iguess, if you see them modeled,

(38:04):
it know is a big thing If youcan be in fortunate enough to be
in places where you get to seesome of those models.
I mean, honor is something thatyou you know.
When you say that you almosthave to see that model, you
almost have to see what thatlooks like, because you don't
just understand it.
That's like an emotion or afeeling.
It's not a just a word you candefine, it's.

(38:28):
You see somebody in a situationand you see how they respond to
it exactly.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
And I think it's funny because some people do say
you know, just get yourargument our leaders born or
they made.
And I always tell people thatit's both right, because if you
look back when you were youngerand I know people that might be
listening to this might notunderstand about what a
playground is and things of thatnature but back on the
playground you always saw thatone kid I don't care it was
kindergarten or first grade,right like everybody followed dr

(38:58):
b when he was like inkindergarten.
Well, why?
Why were the kids enamored withdr B?
Because dr B, instead of comingdown the slide, will say hey,
guess what?
I'm gonna jump off the top ofthe slide.
No way, no way, you're gonnaget killed if I watch me.
And you take that one young kid,male or female, and they the

(39:19):
first time they jump off theslide immediately.
They're a leader.
Yeah, because they have donesomething that nobody else would
do, right.
Or if they were in the swingand instead of doing the regular
swing, they would go to thehighest point and say watch me
jump off the swing at thehighest point.
So what does that have to dowith leadership?

(39:41):
Basically, that individual atthat young age showed people
that you have to be brave, right, you have to trusting yourself
right, and it's okay to make amistake.
So if they jump off the slideand they fail and hurt
themselves, right, nobody says Iwas done, that was done.
They go Wow, don't need to jumpoff the slide, he was bleeding,

(40:04):
right, I mean it's just it addsto the playground legend of
that person being a leader.
So that's what people say Well,I was born with it.
Yes, you have some leadershiptraits when you were young,
because you were brave, you werebold, you were different, I
said.
But everything else youdefinitely had to learn and then
have developed.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
The thing about associations and the people that
you hang around with, and youhear now that the big thing now
is well, if you are the smartestperson in the room, you're in
the wrong room.
That's the big thing that wetalk about in this day and age.
But we all have our group offriends.
We all have our group ofassociations.
How did you protect yourself?

(40:47):
Or maybe you don't even know,it just happened naturally To
make sure you were around peoplethat could help move you
forward, instead of peopleBecause I'm sure there's people
that you can go back to thatgrew up in the same neighborhood
you are and somehow yourassociations put you in the
White House and theirassociations put them somewhere

(41:10):
less desirable.
I guess I'll just say that no,it's the truth.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
No, it's the truth.
And for me, I always tellpeople, you know, I have, you
know, different sets of friends,right, I have some friends that
are more professional.
All right, these are the peoplethat are either gone to where I
want to go or done those typeof thing.
And then there's friends thatstill, like you know, they're my
homeboys, like back in the hood, like when I used to do trips

(41:35):
to la, like I'd go through theneighborhood, like I have to
call them, say, hey, man, youhave to see this rental car,
it's going to, right, that'sgoing to be me coming through,
because they see a car that theydon't recognize.
They all might be start, youknow we're having weapons and
trying to defend what'shappening, right.
But I think for me, I knew thebattle, even when I was in

(41:56):
Compton man, like I was to tellpeople, like I was friends with
the smart kids, was friends withthe gangsters.
I was friends with the smartkids, I was friends with the
gangsters.
I was friends with the sportsguys, right, like I just knew,
like, how to maneuver throughall those different types of
groups and I kept that when Ijoined the military.
So I knew that these are theofficers that I hung out with.
These are the enlisted people,right?

(42:18):
These are the people that arehard charging and they're always
searching for that next rank.
And then these are the peoplelike, man, I'm just glad I'm in
the military and I got threesquares and I can send money
back to my family, like, I'm nottrying to get promoted, I'm
good right now.
So I love just being around allthose type of people and not
trying to change anybody, butjust accept who they are and

(42:40):
what they bring to my life.
But just accept who they areand what they bring to my life,
right?
So, like I said, when I wouldgo back to the hood on different
trips, like the guys alwaystell me, like, hey, man, we
appreciate you coming to visitus, but we know you don't have
to, we know you can't stay long,right, we know that the stuff
that we do you can't be around,but the fact that you still

(43:01):
would come and just check up onus, like we, you know that's
cool, we appreciate that.
So I think that was for me wasone.
I had to make sure I surroundedmyself with people that were
going to help me, but also I hadto be around people that I
could help.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yeah, when I think of one of the things that that
delineates or separatesleadership for me as I'm getting
older and I'm finding isleaders talk about where they're
going and non-leaders talkabout where we've been.
And I keep going to these roomswhere because I have friends
right that I grew up with, onesI went to college with but so

(43:41):
many of them want to continue totalk about the way it was and
how it was and what we did.
That's great.
The first time we have aconversation, I love to
reminisce, but then every time Isee them they're talking about
how it was.
And great leaders always talkabout where we're going.
What are some of the things?
Even today, because you've hadyour military career and now

(44:04):
you're doing beyond militarycareer, how are you continuing
with leadership, talking aboutthe future and not living in the
past?

Speaker 1 (44:14):
So for me, one of the things that I try to do,
especially as a coach, I'm stillin the constant mode,
leadership mode of okay, how doI help you get to where you want
to go?
Okay, so a lot of times when Ihave conversations with people
and, like you said before theshow, you start hearing themes,
you start seeing patterns, right.

(44:35):
So then when I come into acircle with, say, high school
kids like there's a high schoolclose to my where I stay, where
they do mock interview day, allthe juniors go through the
library or the media center,whatever they call it, and you
know you help them practicedoing an interview for a job.
So when they say, right,because I always ask them, you

(44:57):
know, what are you good at?
Right, and what do you thinkyou want to do when you get
older and they go, well, I thinkI want to be an engineer.
I was like perfect, let's makethis interview seem like you're
doing an internship as a youngengineer.
And I just started asking themquestions like hey, so what do
you do now?
That does not can, but it'sgoing to make you a great

(45:20):
engineer.
What class are you taking nowthat when you, when you look
back from your engineer careerand go, like man, I'm so glad I
took that class.
So what I do, dr B, is I putthat vision in them because you
brought up a great point.
Sometimes people don't see thevision because they don't know
that they could be a part ofthat.

(45:42):
So, like even when I used to goback to the neighborhood and
guys like, yeah, man, you know,one day I'm going to do this,
I'm going to do that, I'm like,ok, I get it.
I said, but what are you doingnow, man, that even tomorrow you
can have three more customersinstead of one and they'll go?

(46:06):
Well, you know, I guess Iprobably could go outside of
Gardena and I probably could,you know, sell myself at a
different swap meet, you know.
So, basically, just asking themopen-ended questions so that
they can see like, hey, man,there's a whole other piece over
there that you can conquerwhile still being fresh on this
side of town.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, that's so good to be able to, because people
can't see what, sometimes whatthey don't know, and somebody
has to be the artist that paintsthat picture for them of what's
possible and, you know, a signof a really good leader.
I feel like we get to talkabout leadership, kind of
pivoting a little bit.

(46:38):
How has faith played a part inyour journey?

Speaker 1 (46:46):
So faith for me has been a huge part.
Uh, because that's one of thethings that even got me through
compton like my mom prayed forme so much, like I didn't even
know she was praying for me,right?
I just yeah, yeah you know, goto a house party and you come
back and be like you know abullet could have easily hit me
at that party versus somebodyelse, or even at the school, um,

(47:09):
and then I remember, man, likeI'd be so mad.
It was some party I want to goto and my mom would be like I
got a bad feeling, you can't go,and I would be so upset.
Doc could be like man,everybody's gonna be at this
part.
This is like the party of theyear.
And then I get back to my boysafter gonna be at this part,
this is like the party of theyear.
And then I get back to my boysafter we're like, hey, what
happened?
How's the party?
Oh, man, lucky you didn't go,man.

(47:30):
They ended up shooting up and,uh, we didn't even get to have
any fun.
So I had to go back to my momlike, hey, thanks for not
letting me go to that one,because you know, I heard that,
you know it wasn't the best, andbut she was saying, okay, but
this next one you can go to.
And she just had this feelingabout her that I didn't know,
man, at that time.
Right, so I took that faithwith me when I went to the army,

(47:51):
it was like, yeah, believe inyourself, you know, believe in
you, know your training and thepeople.
Like you're talking abouthaving that trust.
And she was like but don'tforget where you came from,
right, like you know, god has apurpose for you.
I used to hear that a lot, youknow in church.
Like god has a purpose for youand only you'll know what that
is.
Um, but don't worry aboutgetting to whatever that purpose

(48:18):
is right, but just enjoy thejourney alone.
That I guess you had a longtime ago.
And, um, so it was so funny.
When I found myself as a leader.
I ran across some leaders thatwere like you go in their office
and they had a bible right,which nothing wrong with that.
That's just who they were.
But then I would go into someother leaders.

(48:40):
Often they didn't have a bible,but I knew they were people of
faith.
So I would ask them the onethat went to bible like, hey,
why do you keep your bible outin the office like that?
And they were saying that'spart of my identity.
I want people to know that youknow when you come talk to me,
this is the preference I'm goingto come from.
And then I asked the people, theleaders that didn't have the

(49:01):
bible.
I'll say hey, how come youdon't have the bible out?
And then I asked the people,the leaders that didn't have the
Bible out hey, how come youdon't have the Bible out?
And their answer, dr B, was Idon't want to miss out on the
opportunity to help somebody.
No-transcript weighed both ofthem.

(49:25):
Both answers were correct, butto me it was which one is going
to be more effective?
So I chose the one where mybible's in my drawer.
I don't have it out, right?
Um, because I never wanted tomiss opportunity.
Somebody said I was going totalk to you, but nevermind, I'll

(49:46):
wait for Dr B, talk to him nextweek.
And I found that to me it wasmore effective because later on
people would find out that I wasa person of faith and they
would come back and cause youknow, they go talk to me.
I went to go talk to him man.
He was really good, he gave mesome great advice.
And then they would saysomething like oh, you know,
they go talking, man, I want togo talk to him man, he was
really good, he gave me somegreat advice.
And then they would saysomething like oh, you know,
he's a associate pastor, right?

(50:07):
No, we didn't even talk aboutthat, we were talking about the
raiders.
And and then they will comeback later and they'll say man,
why didn't you tell me you werelike?
You know, due to faith, man, Iwouldn't have been cursing him
all that.
I'm like dude.
Dude, my faith should not keepyou from being who you are.

(50:31):
I I'm okay with you cussing man, like that's.
I'm good, yeah, like that's nota big, yeah, man but I don't
feel comfortable, so I had torelease them from that like dude
, don't do that, be who you are,and if you're around people
that don't do that, then that'son them.
I just want you to know.
I want you to be yourselfwhenever we talk.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
I love that.
I think as we get older and weget wiser, you know, I remember
times when you know, like when Iwent to Europe and I was
sharing my faith and that waswho I was.
That's what I did and I got tothe point later on where I was
like I believe people can see itin me and that's my prayer is

(51:14):
God, show who you are throughwho I am, not through any props
or what I show people or what Ihave to say to people.
I shouldn't have to say someChristian words for people to
know.
They should just know by myspirit.
They should know, like, whatI'm doing this podcast.
You know I I asked peoplethat's one of the pillars and

(51:37):
the questions but I can tellthrough doing the podcast which
people I should ask the question, to which ones I should.
to that right, because I want toembarrass somebody go no, no
not your faith, and then they'regoing well, I don't believe in
anything, you know.
I don't believe in anything, youknow, I don't ever want to put
somebody in that situation.
But there's so many people Ican tell just through their

(52:03):
countenance, just through theway that they run, that they
believe that there is somebodybigger than them.
That is kind of running theshow and giving us the free will
of a free choice, and so Iappreciate so much that you
shared that with us and I thinkit almost frees people up to say
wait a minute, I don't have to,you know, strap my Bible on and

(52:25):
put it on and carry it aroundand show people that I got to do
stuff, cause you can be justnot even more effective in being
the example of faith thantalking about it, because we
spend so much time talking aboutyou don't know what just got in
me as far as my throat.
I want to do it one more time.
You get it.

(52:45):
I don't want to run out of timebefore I ask you another
question, but no problem youtalked about health, you talked
about being this, like you know.
You kind of skimmed over, likeit was this little bitty thing
where you were.
You're an athlete, not kind ofan athlete, but the soldier of
all soldiers, like the ultimatesoldier, right, well, I didn't
win, but you were probably likein the top echelon of folks who

(53:07):
ever do that.
What do you still do to keephealthy, and not only physically
, because I think that'simportant, but mentally, because
I don't think you can bephysically healthy if there's a
whole bunch of stuff going on inyour military and so and you're
you know, I think, like thestress it has to be at the white
out, because every four yearsyou got a whole different team
that you're working with rightall different administration and

(53:28):
everything else, like I gottaredo this, and then all the
fighting and all that kind ofstuff.
So how did you keep that saneand you keep your body up and
all those things?

Speaker 1 (53:39):
So for me, one thing I did is, you know, everybody's
like oh man, I want to be likethat guy or I want to do like
that guy, I want to drink whatthey drink.
And for me I just found whatworks for me Right, like there's
some people, you know, theyhave their, their ritual, their
routine that they do everymorning.
Well, I have one like that, butmine just fits my style Right.

(54:02):
So, like, like I said, mentally, I just try to, you know, stay
around positive things.
I stay around positive people.
I'm not saying that I'm aroundnon-positive people.
I'm around them too because youknow how do they love Dr B with
people who say you know what,you know you're the only one

(54:22):
that talks to so-and-so, likeeverybody else avoids him.
But you purposely go to him andask him about his family and
how he's doing, and he doesn'tbark at you.
Why is that?
I was like because that's who Iam Like.
I want him to know that ifeverybody else is running this
way, I'm not going to run awayfrom him because he's still a
person too.
So well, how do you be around aperson like that?
That's so negative they're.

(54:43):
So this I said because I knowfor me, I do things to stay
positive.
So when I go and I say mypositive meter is at 100.
By the time I'm around thatdude, I'm dropping to 50.
I'm going to go back and reloadand get, you know, boosted back
up.
And I do that through differentthings, whether it's, you know,
jazz music or gospel music orreading.

(55:05):
Right, I love my boy, marshawnLynch, when he got ready to
retire, and they was like howare you going to tell all the
players coming after you?
And it was funny.
But, man, I love what he said.
One of the things he said wastake care of your mentals.
I love that, cause you knewwhat he was saying and basically

(55:26):
what he was saying was you gotto stay mentally strong, right?
You can't let the highs takeyou too far and let the lows
take you too down.
You know, just try to stay evenkeel.
And I think for me, mentally, Ialways try to stay even keel.
Things aren't as bad as theyseem to be and they're not going
to last that long.

(55:46):
Things are going to change.
So it was so funny Like I had aguy, dr B b I haven't seen like
years and I saw him at alocation.
I was like hey, mark, how's itgoing?
His introduction response washey, the most positive man in
the world, what's going on,right?
And I just love that becausethat's what he walked away with

(56:10):
our relationship like.
No matter what happened, thisdude would always find a way.
He wouldn't sugarcoat it Likeyou know, I wouldn't sugarcoat
it, but I would always show them.
There's always the oppositeside of whatever's going on and
even if we can't understand itor can't see it, we're still
going to learn from it.
So that's why, for me, mentally, I just try to do those things

(56:31):
that keep my mind right, myhealth, as much as I can, and I
just try to do the things thatfit me and my discipline, versus
trying to do something I know Ican't do.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Well, I would love to be called the most positive man
in the world.
I mean, what a compliment thatis.
What a that means the impactyou've made in somebody else's
life, because that's what theygot out of it.
It's so cool.
Now, don't get me wrong here,because I believe what Daryl is

(57:07):
saying is you got to be you andyou got to find out what works
for you.
He's not saying that friedchicken, cakes and candy is
going to work for anybody.
He's not saying that.
So you don't hear him saying doyou and what works for you?
Because I promise you diabetesis what works.
Get the heck out here and eatand take care of yourself.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
So he's got the old version of common sense in there
, right?

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Oh my gosh.
You know this has been likesuch an amazing conversation and
I know you don't believe anhour went that fast, but I would
love for you to take some timeand whatever we didn't talk
about that you want to talkabout how to get ahold of you,
all those things.
If you could kind of just sharesome of that with us in our
last few minutes, I would sureappreciate it.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
I think the biggest thing I want to share right now
and I know that as we're doingthis podcast there's a lot of
different things going on in theUnited States and people are
affected in different ways.
Definitely not trying to shyaway from that, I'm realistic
that things affect peopledifferent ways and more people
than others.
But I would say and I've alwayssaid this even before that

(58:17):
there's not a problem in thisworld that can't be solved
without good leadership.
I just really believe in myheart that leadership can solve
anything, even if we're goingthrough some challenging times.
If you find that leader thatyou respect and maybe you don't
talk to them that often or youhaven't talked to them in a
while, I just want to tellpeople, whoever that person is

(58:40):
for you, reach out to them andjust say, hey, I haven't talked
to you in a minute.
I apologize, I'm not feeling mybest right now.
I just need to talk to somebody.
If you are that leader that doesthat type of thing, you know,
pay attention to what's going on, pay attention to people, try

(59:01):
to check in on them a little bitmore, because people could be
going through a lot right now,and that's one of the things I
purposely try to do.
I value relationships, so Iwill call people you know, know
so often, whether it's every twomonths, every three months, and
they always say, oh man, I feelso bad.
Man, I haven't talked to you inlike six months, but you always

(59:22):
call me, like right on thistime I'm like, man, don't, this
is not a, I do it, so you needto do it back to me.
This is me.
Just I don't know how you'redoing today, man, like how's
your family, how's this?
And so I just say all that tome falls underneath the umbrella
of leadership.
So what I want to share withanybody, all your listeners, is

(59:44):
you know, try to be that bestleader that you can.
Even you may say, well, I'm notin charge of anybody or
anything.
Well, you know what, you're incharge of yourself.
So lead yourself first and thentake it from there to see who
else can benefit from yourleadership, because everybody
has something inside of themthat somebody could use,
somebody could learn from, couldgrow from.

(01:00:05):
And I know a lot of times,especially as men, you know, we
kind of downplay a lot of stufflike I'm not a superstar, I'm
not this, I'm not that, but youknow what, but you are somebody
and you mean something tosomeone, so don't take your life
for granted that you're notmaking an impact.

(01:00:26):
That's one thing I love aboutleadership, man.
Leaders can make an impact, nomatter where they are and who
they're with, and sometimes theydon't even realize it, as long
as you're doing it for the rightreasons wow, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Thank you for sharing that, because sometimes we we
get to talking about all thesethings and where to go,
especially when you're leadersand you have vision and you're
thinking about the future.
But the relationship iseverything and serving others
we've talked about that severaltimes today and I just you know,
I love how you put that Ifyou're feeling led to call

(01:01:02):
somebody, call them If youhaven't talked to them in a
while, even if it's been yearsand you haven't talked to them,
that one phone call can makesuch an impact in such a
difference.
And if we do that a lot moreyou know even me, you know we
can, we can put on these facadeslike we're doing great, you

(01:01:22):
know all the time and thepositive man in the world.
But I guarantee you that darylgot some calls from some people.
Sometimes that changescountenance.
It changed who we, you knowwhat he was thinking about.
Time changes the directionsometimes of how you react in
the next two or three months andthen how you react to other
people, and so what a great wayto end the show is.

(01:01:43):
Hey, remember that we all aregoing through stuff and I don't
know if you remember when I wentto the historically black
church, there was always theseladies who were sitting in the
front row that had the whitehats on, and you know they were
the mothers of the church.
And so I was saying you know,miss Jones, how are you doing

(01:02:04):
today?
You know, she said bless theLord, bless the Lord.
And I'm just going through it,just going through it.
And one thing that came to meis, miss jones, when you will
get through it?
You know, I knew you since Iwas five and now I'm 13 and
you're still going through it.
Well, how you help somebody getthrough it is you those phone

(01:02:25):
calls that you make, becausenobody should be stuck in that
same situation five, ten,fifteen years later, and you
could be the catalyst thatallows them to progress.
So I thank you for sharing withus today and thank you for just
spending the time with me.
Like you said, I get stuff.
I'm the luckiest one.
You got to do one of these withme and I hope you'll be able to

(01:02:46):
come back.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
But to be able to oh sure, anytime.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
All the time.
It's just fantastic.
And so for those of you who hey, got something out of this and
want to contact, do you have awebsite or something?
I know you got seminars andstuff.
Is there a way that somebodycould find out more about them?

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Sure, they can find my organization, alliance
Seminars Coaching, right.
We're on Facebook.
We're on Instagram the website.
We're on Facebook.
We're on Instagram the websiteallianceseminarsorg.
And again, I exist just to helppeople, really.
I mean, I tell people my careerhas been so high where I can't

(01:03:24):
get any higher than that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
So you know, the rest of my time on this earth is
just pouring into my family andpouring into others.
Well, and because if you're onAir Force Two, you're pretty
much above every other planethat's out there.
You can't get much higher thanan astronaut on the moon or
something like that.
Oh so cool, hey.
So subscribe, share this withsomebody.
If there's somebody you thinkthat can utilize what we talked

(01:03:57):
about today and it can maketheir lives a little bit better,
share it with them and then I'msure you'll find if you go
through all the rmbs we've done,you will find somebody that
resonates with you in a specialway.
I want you to forget, don'tforget, that you're god's
greatest gift.
He loves you.
If you allow him to, and you,my friend, will look forward to,
uh, seeing you exactly on thenext one that we do here.
Whatever we can do to help, letus do that.
We'll talk to you guys.