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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back to the
Joyful Shaman.
I am Naomi, your host with themost, and I am glad to be back
with you.
I know I've kind of changed myintro quite a bit because,
number one, I forget what it isthat I say and I've decided to
stop doing music because, let'sbe honest, it's just too much
work for me to do with editing.
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I'm trying to work smarter, notharder.
So if you care about thosekinds of things, well, you're
going to have to get over it.
But here I am this week and Iwanted to come on because I want
to talk today about astrology,and I am not a person that reads
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charts, even though I know myown chart.
I have studied with otherastrologers and I'm going to be
talking about three astrologersthat are highly, highly
recommended and I'm going to beputting their information in the
description of this episode.
But the reason I wanted to comeon is America is heavy right
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now.
Over the weekend, for the firsttime in history, america bombed
a nuclear site in Iran and Inever, ever thought I would see
that in my lifetime first Trumppresidency.
That was always my biggest fearthat he was going to start
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World War III and Iran was goingto like send nuclear missiles
to our country, and this weekenda big part of me thought that
was going to happen and I had totake a step back, like a real
big step back, and do someresearch, number one to be like
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is this a reality?
And then I realized, okay, well, they can't get to mainland USA
, but there are sleeper cells inthe US and I totally believe
that.
I believe that this couldincite violence, this could
incite something.
I don't know if it's going toescalate.
I feel like hopefully it was aone and done thing, but right
now the world, the US, it isabsolute, freaking chaos, and I
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have been following astrologyfor so long that I knew that
this was coming.
Now I can't say like I knewhumans were going to behave like
this.
But the energetic weather I sawthat today on social media from
an astrologer and I reallyliked how they wrote that the
energetic weather is right forthis behavior.
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So it was almost like we can'ttell you what's going to happen.
We're going to predict, basedon transits and what's happening
, with people in charge, thecountry as a whole as its own
entity, its own energy, and theworld as a whole, the collective
.
And so I'm sitting here and I'mlike, oh my God, everything
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that I thought was going tohappen, even a year ago, has
happened.
I'm the one that predicted inJanuary that there was going to
be riots in June.
I also predicted that Trump andI haven't said this out loud,
so here's the first time you'rehearing it I think he's going to
be impeached and possiblestarts of impeachment could
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happen this summer.
Do I think it's going to comethrough?
I don't know, but he's doingsome real heinous shit.
So it's a very strongpossibility that there could be
obviously there's mountingevidence for it, but there could
be a strong possibility thatsomeone is going to stand up and
say we are bringing fortharticles of impeachment towards
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him.
So, that being said, I'm sureall of America just like held
their fucking breath this pastweekend, including myself, and
that just really brought intomind how strong astrology is
woven into human behavior.
Now, I love astrology, um, andthose people that work with me
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know me like I'm.
Other conversation is this iswhat's happening in the transits
.
It's like just part of my dailyspeak, but when it comes to
astrology, I can really see howthe planetary shifts and
movements really affect humanbehavior and it's very mirrored.
So the three astrologers I wantto talk about, number one is a
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sweet friend in Chicago.
Her name is Sarah Ashley andher business is Sarah Ashley
Astrology.
She's a tarot reader.
She does like soul astrology.
She also does Akashic recordastrology.
I'll put her contactinformation in there.
But I had a reading with herlast year around Christmas time
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like a birth chart reading, andthen I just recently got my
solar return reading within thispast week for my birthday and I
love talking to her.
I love following her onInstagram because she's so real.
You know she's not like oh,placating to this and that or
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whatever, like this is the wayit is.
Be careful about this.
If this is you, you know,change your shit because you're
being affected and you knowpeople have free will and
everything.
But she's just really raw andhonest, just like how I tend to
be.
I still feel like I'm a littlebit more gentle in in my
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delivery sometimes, but I keepit real here on the podcast.
So let's just say that.
But I had my solar return chartdone and that is different than
a natal chart.
So the natal chart is like theday you were born, at the time
at the city.
It gives you theall-encompassing view about who
you are in your astrologicalsoul map.
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Your solar return is actuallybased on your birthday of that
year, where you are located atthe time of your birthday and
still I believe you're likebirth time as well.
So my solar return was June13th, 2025.
I was here in Lakeland, florida,and so she pulled all the
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information and it was very,very interesting because
apparently I'm going to behaving a very Venusian ninth
house year about self-love,caring for myself, going super
deep into my spiritual message,my spiritual teachings,
traveling nonstop for theretreats and boy is that super
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happening.
And she gave me like a month bymonth breakdown of what the
major transits were in my life,how they're going to affect me,
and I'm listening to her and sherecords all of this via Zoom
live and she sends you therecording and then I'm going
back and listening to it againand then seeing how it lines up
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in my life.
Like I did not realize thatwhen I planned Mount Shasta,
which is July 24th to the 27th,my first retreat that I am
leading, like I planned myself,happens to fall on the full moon
in Aquarius, which is huge,activating for me brand new
ideas and I'm going to beapparently channeling so much on
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the mountain that I'm like,holy crap, how did I know a year
ago, when I had this dream,that this was going to be
happening?
Obviously my soul knew it wasgiving me a premonition, but
that's how astrology plays intoit.
And then, when I'm going toGlastonbury, didn't realize I'm
going to be in Stonehenge on theday of the partial lunar
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eclipse.
I can't make this shit up andI'm just like, fuck, that's so
goddamn powerful.
I'm going to be standing onthose ley lines, put my hands on
the rock.
I mean, obviously I want somekind of imaginary outlander
situation to happen in my head,but I'm just going to be there
channeling that energy, you know.
And then I had an invitation togo to a retreat leader summit in
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San Diego in October to givethe blessing.
I'm still deciding if I want togo or not.
I want to make sure it'spresence and not performative.
And then you know my otherretreats around Scorpio season,
which is the goddess retreat inIslam, mujeres for the goddess
Yishal.
It's really embodying a lot ofdivine, feminine energy and
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activating that within me.
And also a big part of thisyear is creating joy for the
sake of joy and implementing joyinto my spiritual work and just
having fun and enjoying lifeand being really creative.
You know, I do have a bit of asecret and I will share it with
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you now, because I'm only goingto share it on this podcast,
because I'm still working on it.
It's in the preliminaries, butI am going to be creating my own
shamanic oracle healing deck.
I'm going to call it MedicineWoman Codes and it will infuse
elementals, spirit guides,archetypes and other activation
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cards in it as well.
I call it kind of like myall-in-one tool for someone that
is new on the path or long intheir path and would like to
have something that they have alittle bit of everything to help
them.
It will include affirmations,rituals on every card, a really
comprehensive guidebook, and I'mgoing to be working with a
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local artist here in mycommunity to do all the artwork
for the cards.
So that is kind of my bigproject that I am doing.
I've never been one to desire towrite a book.
I still don't.
That might change in the future, but I was like why not do an
Oracle deck as kind of a way tocreate something that can be
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hopefully easily published?
Well, spirit and astrology isdefinitely supporting that, and
so I'm excited to see thatunfold over the next couple of
months.
So the solar return I've justbeen like really really
pondering it and readingeverything that's happening
astrologically right now in theworld.
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Uranus and Gemini you know bigtime Gemini energy.
We're in cancer season.
We got new moon on Wednesday incancer, like we just got a
whole bunch of stuff going onand I'm just like man, the
revolution is just barelygetting started.
I'm excited to see how it alllines up over the summer, you
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know.
And then I've just beenreflecting on my solar return
chart and how important it is tounderstand number one, your
natal chart, to understand whoyou are more than just you know
your son.
Yeah, I'm a Gemini.
I'm a hardcore Gemini in mynatal chart.
I have to like in, like I'm ahardcore Gemini in my needle
chart.
I'm Gemini and I have a lot ofGemini placements, but that's
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not really how I always seemyself.
I have a very strong Capricornmoon and I have Capricorn in
Neptune as well and I have alittle bit of Capricorn in my
solar return for 2025, but it'smainly a lot of cancer energy in
the ninth house.
It's a lot in spirituality anddeep love and relationships and
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collaborations and things likethat.
So really showing up to be seen, really like stepping up,
owning my power, my voice, andgetting deeper in my medicine
and making sure I make adiscipline of it.
So there's some big differencesbetween solar return and natal
birth chart.
Like I said, I am not anastrologer.
So even if this sounds likeconvoluted or just messy, just
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know that getting a natal birthchart reading and a solar return
reading and a solar returnreading every year for your
birthday, signs you up and givesyou an indication of the
energies that you're going to beworking, that you're going to
be experiencing karma, thatyou're clearing karma, that
you're still working on gifts,talents and possibilities of
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moves.
It's actually in my astrology.
As I talked about it with SarahAshley, I told her I'm like
listen, next summer I'm reallydone with Florida, I've got to
move.
And she's like your window ofopportunity in your 2026 solar
return she's like is going to beJuly 2026 through October 2026.
She's like it is the biggesttime for you to make a home move
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.
And I was like great, becausethat's when I was planning it.
So now I have like a blueprintof what I can follow and when I
can go and make discovery trips,when I can go and make
connections, when the energy isgoing to be supportive and open
for me to make certain steps.
I mean, you can't get anyclearer than, month by month,
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how you should be moving in yourlife and different windows of
time that may be beneficial andmore supportive for you.
That's why I love astrology.
For a long time, I didn't thinkthat astrology was like a real
thing.
You know, I was always like onthe sidelines.
I'm like okay, yeah, cool, Ican see the synchronicities and
the coincidences.
But I can tell you over theyears it's just become stronger
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and stronger in my life thatthere is absolutely no way that
it is not real.
Even Mercury retrograde that is100%, very, very real for all
of us, and it starts day one youknow.
So that's Sarah Ashley Astrology, the next astrologer I've
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worked with.
Her name is Jessie Eccles andshe's based out of Nebraska
Eccles, and she's based out ofNebraska, and I'll put her
information on Instagram Now.
I did a six month, or almostsix month, container with her
last year to really heal andlearn more about myself.
She also does gene keys inhuman design, which I'm not even
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going to get into that becauseit's really difficult to explain
, but it is a combination of oldesoteric teachings like
numerology, the I Ching,kabbalah.
That's human design.
But human design also infusesastrology elements into it as
well.
So she was helping me reallyunderstand myself last year as I
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was going through six months ofjust like extreme upheaval and
it was really really rough forme because I was preparing to
launch the Joyful Shaman andrelaunch this podcast as the
Joyful Shaman, from like Januaryuntil really May, and just
really wanting to make sure like, is this the right thing for me
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?
You know, these, these are myplans.
I wanted to move away from likebody work.
I wanted to move away from,like this whole old identity and
really I was just shutting andthat I was getting into retreats
and then deciding if I wantedto be in the retreat world.
So I was like doing all of thisstuff with her and I'm so glad
that she navigated everythingwith me.
I still have all the paperworkand everything and I know my
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human design.
I'm a six, two profile emotionalauthority.
So if you know, human designedum, I'm supposed to be the
exemplary human showingunconditional love, being the
teacher, my astrology, my humandesign, um, and my soul contract
based on my name, 100% has meas a shamanic healer, as a
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teacher, a spiritual guide, aperson that has to live their
life a little bit harder thanother people to be the example
and to speak truth.
And I hold power in my voice, Ihold power in the way that I
teach and I can create safespaces where people are, feel
are, can feel seen, be heard andbe loved, and so, of course,
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the spiritual counselor aspectis in every single healing
modality that I've ever done.
So I know that I am a hundredpercent living in my truth.
I think it's just aboutunfolding and me sometimes I say
like catching up to the healingum that is already determined
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by the stars um and by otherhealing modalities that far
exceed my lifespan, um.
The last astrologer is myamazing friend, tiffany George,
and she is based in Austin,texas, and she teaches in person
at the Aurora House onastrology and she does astrology
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classes.
She does birth charts.
She's also an amazing goddessyoga teacher, so if you are in
Austin, you must go take agoddess yoga class.
It is phenomenal, you will loveit, but she is like an
astrology coach as well, so sheinfuses astrology in with life
coaching, and she's also aclothing stylist too.
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So, you know, I love the waythat she teaches because she's
just very real, very honest.
But she also has a spiritualityelement of almost putting
together like journal promptswith astrology, which I think is
really cool because it makesyou sit there and think not just
okay, can I understand whatthis transit means?
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How does this apply to me?
Like, how do I possibly feelthis energy?
And if I don't, what could thistransit mean for me, regardless
, you know.
So those are the threeastrologers that I highly
recommend, and I'm very excitedto see not just my life unfold
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but to see the collective unfoldas well.
And in shamanic practice,astrology plays a huge component
in many indigenous cultures.
In the Mayan culture, theentire Mayan calendar is their
version of astrology.
There is Mayan astrology aswell that works a little bit
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differently with the months andyears, and it's so interesting
because the Mayan calendar isstill really hard to decipher
and understand, you know,because it's so ancient.
But there's something therethat can be seen in regular
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astrology and in shamanic andEgyptian astrology as well, and
in Vedic astrology that is basedout of India and Chinese
astrology too.
There is a lot of overlap inthere and I mean, you're talking
about cultures and countriesand creations of these
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astrological studies that varyin time and age, and so there's
got to be something concretethere Now.
Whether it's aliens that camedown and taught all the people
this, that is a very realpossibility.
I'm not going to knock that.
But there's the study of thestars and there's something
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there about lunation, stars, thegalaxy, the planet
gravitational pulls and us aspeople, and this has existed so
long, so, so, so long.
There has to be something realto it.
So I just kind of wanted tobring that into perspective.
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As to what's happening in theUS right now, what's happening
in the world, what's happeningwithin the collective of the
vibrational energy of peopleright now and right now is we're
really diving into cancerseason, like literally the day
diving into cancer season, likeliterally the day after the
solstice started.
I like cried my head off sogreat initiation into cancer
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season and really activatingthat cancerian year for me with
this solar return.
But there's something there.
And if you feel that you want toknow more about your personal
astrology, like who you are,what your soul purpose is, what
your karma is, what your deepestwoundings are, what your gifts
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are, what your strengths are,how to use this, how to work
with that energy.
Get a natal birth chart readingand get your most recent solar
return chart reading for thisyear.
I'm telling you it's going tochange your life.
It will give you a concreteblueprint to follow and it helps
you to really reflect andponder about who you are.
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I work with so so many peoplethat come to me and are always
asking me what is my purpose?
I feel stuck, I feel lost, Ihate my job and all of this and
I want to change my career andmy relationships and la la la.
And they have merit to them.
But it's also like there are somany tools out there that can
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give you insights from differentperspectives and perceptions
about all of these questions.
It's about knowing what theyare and finding access to it
with reliable, trustworthypeople.
These are the three people thatI absolutely trust
wholeheartedly as accurate andpassionate astrologers that are
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about giving the facts withoutinfusing their opinions into it.
They keep it neutral.
They keep it as it is.
They provide a lot ofinformation on their.
They provide a lot ofinformation on their social
media a lot of information ontheir websites and it merits an
experience to at least learn andsee how it resonates with you.
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Not everybody's going toresonate with astrology.
My sister always rolls her eyesat me when I talk about it.
She's just like God, you andyour gobbledygook.
But it's very real and it'svery real to me and that is my
truth.
And it's taken me probablyuntil, honestly, this year to
really believe astrology is veryreal and I am living it
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literally week by week, month bymonth, and it blows my mind
every day and it's just part ofmy studies, part of my
discipline.
Helps me to check in withmyself, keep myself accountable
and give myself realistictimelines and timeframes for
projects, for connections, to bewary of things, especially when
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I'm traveling.
You know, some of it might belike, hey, you might get
rerouted.
Hey, your luggage might getsent somewhere else.
Hey, you know, you just got tobe down with it and plan things
if I want to experience thatmore or maybe minimize the
possibility of it.
You know, like I said,astrology creates energetic
weather for things.
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You take aligned action to makethings happen.
There's just maybe bettersupportive windows of time so
that it's maybe not as difficultand you can see quicker results
.
So that's my view on astrologyRight now.
I am just taking a break rightfrom social media this week
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because, as much as I can, atleast from like the news and
stuff, I have found some reallycool music, um, from this
incredible young artist who isvery dashing and, um, he is
English.
Um, so all of you that listento me in the UK, I'm sure you
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know who this is, if you loverock music, if you love punk
music and I grew up on classicrock and punk rock music is
Youngblood and he has a newalbum out now that just got
released on Friday, june 20thIdles, and I was listening to it
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.
Like my Facebook algorithm feedjust started showing me all
these videos and I'm like, whois this handsome young guy Like
oof, you know, dark romance boy,and I listened to the album
over this weekend and, wow, sopowerful.
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And I was watching some of likethe old videos and listening to
some of his old music and Iremember hearing about
Youngblood about five, six yearsago, like on the indie rock
station and I was like, wow,this kid.
You know he sounds reallydifferent.
You know he's infusing hip hopand punk.
You know, he has that heavyNorthern accent, um, which is
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really unique, you know, and hissinging, and I was just like,
wow, you know, I hope this kidgoes somewhere.
You know, and I have I don'talways listen to, like the indie
rock station and stuff likethat, but this weekend, like his
videos popped up and I was like, oh, wow, that's that kid, you
know, and I was like man, thiskid grew up.
You know, I'm 10 years olderthan him, but you know, a guy
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that's nice on the eyes doesn'thurt.
And so I was listening to hisalbum and, wow, you can hear the
Cure, you can hear David Bowie,you can hear Iggy Pop, you can
hear some Led Zeppelin, you candefinitely hear Queen.
You can hear some Led Zeppelin,you can definitely hear Queen,
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you hear.
So you hear U2 in it, like somany amazing artists' sounds and
just the use of hisinstrumentation with live
orchestra, the raspiness of hisvoice and, you know, do I feel
like he's like the best melodicsinger?
No, but he has a unique way ofsinging that is really cool with
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all of these sounds, and Ithink he really loves David
Bowie because he has a few songson there that I was just like,
wow, this is like David Bowieincarnated into this young man's
voice.
I hear it.
So I did a really ballsy thing.
I think I was just very much inmy cancer feels.
I never message people likecelebrities on social media,
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public figures.
I don't really follow any ofthem, I just don't feel the need
to.
I'm not following him becausethen I would just like go off
the deep end in my cancer seasonright now.
But I did send him a message,you know, and I was just like
I've got to say like I justfound your music.
I think this is really powerful, I think it resonates with a
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lot of people.
It's beautiful how he's singingexperiences of his life.
Like I feel like it's a journeyof self.
And then I kind of looked alittle bit of information about
him and he's always talkingabout he's 27.
Well, he's about to be 28.
And here's a little astrologytidbit that ties into you know,
my weekend fandom over here he'sabout to enter what's called
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his Saturn return and he'salready been feeling it and this
album is a representation ofhis journey thus far.
And, as a spiritual person,looking at somebody that is in
the public eye, and you cansense that he struggles with
mental health, as we all do, andjust trying to be true to
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himself and work on knowing whohe is and standing in his truth
and healing wounds withinhimself.
This album screams SaturnReturn.
Saturn Return is when you turn28 or 29, depending on when your
birthday lands and it is theinitiation of the universe of
spirit, saying welcome tospiritual adulthood.
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Your life is about to getflipped upside down.
You know.
Relationships may end, bigthings may happen.
You're questioning everythingabout yourself and it's just
like welcome to actually beingan adult.
You're now fully conscious,hopefully.
You need to be aware and you'vegot to start making some
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changes to align yourself toyour true path, to who you
really are, and I feel like thisalbum is the start of that and
I'm just really curious to seewhere he will go in the next
couple of years.
You don't have another saturnreturn until you're 51 and 52
again.
So those of you that arelistening, that are around those
ages if major things arehappening in your life and
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you're like what the fuck?
You're going to have yoursecond Saturn return when you
are in your thirties.
And this is very much whatCarrie Bradshaw said in Sex and
the City.
Your thirties are for lessons,and that is very true as someone
who is 38 and in a tower year,so to speak, but still the
self-love year, your 30s.
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You're going to experience hugechanges, from 35 to 42, it's
going to be your hardest time inyour life because it's a great
spiritual awakening.
So marriages, divorces,sickness, moves, accidents,
career changes and you having tocompletely deconstruct your
life and come back intoalignment if you haven't been
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doing the work since your Saturnreturn.
So seeing someone like that,I'm just like.
You know he's just becomingvery, very conscious and I hope
that other people, otherperformers, other athletes,
celebrities are being asconscious as he is.
And he does a lot of work withpeople Like I think he has a
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foundation, works with afoundation for mental health and
does so much for his diehardfans, especially in England, and
I think that's really beautifuland really refreshing because
his generation is all aboutpositivity and working through
your shit and facing your shitand building community and being
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there for people.
You know, I grew up with thoseclassic rock albums which I
still have in vinyl in my officethat I listened to, you know,
and I grew up with pop punk, butI also loved old school punk,
you know, like the Smiths andthe Ramones.
Like put that on on a rainy dayand I'm just like in it, you
know, and like fucking the cure.
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Just put red lipstick on andjust dishevel my hair and I'm
listening to it.
But I can tell you like, for megrowing up it was Green Day's
Dookie album their 1994 albumand Jimmy World's Bleed American
album is what got me through inmy teenage years.
So I feel like Youngblood isthe younger generation's version
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of all of that that we had, youknow, growing up, that we
inherited, that our parentsshowed us, um, you know, through
music, we had cool parents likethat.
Um, I think that he's thatperson and I I'm just really
happy that there's more musicaltalent that is leaning and
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reflecting on past musicians andbringing in this positive
message.
So just another tie-in withmusic.
I know that's off topic aroundastrology, but I just wanted to
share that because I was likewow, that was really big of me
to send a message and he maynever see it and I may never get
a response and God bless them.
You know, I know what it's liketo work with celebrities.
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I work with celebrities forfive years as a massage
therapist in the early part ofmy career, so I know what their
world is like, and that would besuper hard.
And who's to say I might workwith celebrities again as a
shamanic healer you never knowbut I'm just really happy to see
people at that age being somuch more conscious and awake.
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So that's what I've got for you.
As far as you need to go and getan astrology reading Solar
return, natal, birth chart youget both of those and you get a
solar return every year reading.
You have a visible, tangibleblueprint for your life that can
truly help you.
So that's the update.
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That's what I wanted to talkabout this week.
At this time we're moving intoJuly and I'll do one or two more
episodes before I go out toShasta and then I'll give you
the downloads that I got fromShasta.
But if you find this and youlisten to this, you are an
amazing soul and you have a planand a purpose.
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I promise you it is literallywritten in the stars.
Go find out about it and you,you are needed here and shine
your light as you truly are,really be confident, be who you
are.
It's your uniqueness thatreally makes you stand out and
creates amazing ripple effectsin this world for profound
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healing, great awakening andgreater consciousness.
Until we meet again, be well,sat Nam friend.