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March 18, 2025 57 mins

Jim Bianco, president of Bianco Research, returns to The Julia La Roche Show for episode 242 to discuss the markets and the economy. He explains why America's K-shaped economy - where the top 10% drives 50% of retail sales - has made the status quo unsustainable. He argues Trump's policies reflect the reality that our $36 trillion debt has become a national security issue requiring allies to pay for their defense rather than relying solely on U.S. taxpayers. Bianco maintains his "no landing" economic outlook, viewing tariffs as negotiation leverage rather than permanent policy. For investors, he predicts bonds will deliver 5% returns with lower volatility compared to stocks' 6-7% annually, making fixed income an attractive alternative after years of TINA (There Is No Alternative).


This episode is sponsored by Monetary Metals. Visit https://monetary-metals.com/julia


Links:

BiancoResearch.com

BiancoAdvisors.com

x.com/biancoresearch


0:00 Introduction and welcome back Jim Bianco

0:55 Big picture view on K-shaped economy

3:18 Bottom half vs top half income differences

4:38 Top 10% accounting for 50% of retail sales

6:52 Unsustainable fiscal situation and policy shifts

9:12 Mar-a-Lago Accord discussion

14:03 Ukraine situation and security payments

17:44 Fourth Turning analysis and Trump's preparation

21:06 Focus on rebuilding manufacturing jobs

22:28 Bond market analysis and common misconceptions

26:43 Bond yields vs stock market returns

29:28 Stock market valuation and return expectations

31:29 Problems with passive investing

34:42 Market correction reaction and overreaction

38:43 Tesla stock overreaction example

39:59 No landing economic view

42:21 Tariffs as leverage, not permanent policy

43:22 Red Sea shipping disruption analysis

47:08 Houthi drone attacks and economic implications

50:51 Global security costs and European defense spending

54:28 Closing thoughts on economic realignment

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