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July 24, 2025 52 mins

Bill Fleckenstein, founder and president of Fleckenstein Capital, returns to The Julia La Roche Show for episode 276 where he provides an assessment of America's financial predicament, arguing that 30 years of Federal Reserve easy money policies have created damage to the economy and society. He explains how the Treasury is attempting to manage the $36 trillion debt crisis by rolling financing to the short end of the curve while allowing banks to increase leverage ratios, creating demand for government bonds. Fleckenstein believes market analysis no longer applies due to the dominance of passive flows, making shorting ineffective and valuations meaningless. He's holding more cash than ever in his investment career and warns that we're past the point of no return financially. Beyond economics, he's concerned about wealth bifurcation driving younger generations toward financial gambling or socialism, eroding American society's fabric.


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Links:

Book: https://www.amazon.com/Greenspans-Bubbles-Ignorance-Federal-Reserve/dp/0071591583

Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/fleckcap

Website: https://www.fleckensteincapital.com/


0:00 Welcome and introduction - Bill returns to the show

0:56 Big picture macro view - uncertainty and Trump volatility

4:55 Bond market games - rolling debt to short end of curve

7:39 Investment strategy - holding more cash than ever

10:22 Why shorting doesn't work anymore - the passive bid problem

11:46 Passive flows and employment concerns for young graduates

14:25 Understanding the passive bid - why it matters for all ages

18:37 Fed critique - 30 years of destructive easy money policies

22:49 Mission creep and arrogance at the Federal Reserve

25:57 Bond market story - financing games and bank leverage

29:04 Is this the right policy approach? No good options left

34:24 Are we in a Fed-induced bubble? The "everything bubble"

36:45 Can the Fed control inflation? Lessons from the gold standard

40:24 Could we return to sound money? Past the point of no return

44:20 The math doesn't work - why we're too late

47:01 What keeps Bill up at night - societal breakdown and wealth bifurcation

50:09 Optimism in human ingenuity despite challenges

51:10 Quick take on gold - the one financial antidote

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