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May 20, 2024 58 mins

In this episode, Sharon and Elena dive into the fascinating world of organ health, examining the vital functions of various organs and the consequences of living without them. They reveal how the removal of organs like the gallbladder, appendix, tonsils, and more can impact digestion, immunity, hormone production, and overall health. Emphasizing the importance of maintaining organ health and preventing the need for surgery, they highlight proactive measures, including lifestyle changes, detoxification practices, emotional healing, and proper hydration.

The conversation also covers the significance of “extra” organs like the spleen, gallbladder, tonsils, and thyroid, and discusses how lifestyle choices affect organs such as the prostate and the ovaries' roles beyond reproduction. They tackle the challenges of surgical menopause, recognizing pain and digestive issues as health signals, and the emotional aspects of organ health. Sharon and Elena conclude with a reminder to be informed and proactive in healthcare choices, advocating for a holistic approach to preserving organ function and overall well-being.

If you're grappling with issues related to your “extra” organs, or if you've had any organs removed and want to learn more about optimizing your health without them, call K6 Wellness Center to book an appointment. We'll provide you with personalized plans to optimize your health and well-being.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the K6 Wellness Revolution podcast.
My name is Sharon and I'mjoined once again by my sidekick
, elena, who what we're going totalk about today.
She happens to be missingorgans, but we're pleased you're
spending this hour with us.
Hey, elena.
Hello, you are the one to comeup with this topic.

(00:21):
What made you think?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
of this, I think after I saw five or six people
in a row who were either missingan organ or about to be missing
one because things had gottenso bad, and I thought, oh my
goodness, this is a missingtopic.
People don't talk about itenough.
So I thought, hey, prime timefor us to chat about something
that you and I do talk about allthe time.
But I thought why not bring itto everyone else?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
I think it's a great idea and I think you're really
witty and clever with your namesand titles.
So Elena and I are going to beexploring a fascinating and
often overlooked aspect ofmedical science.
What happens when we have tolive without certain organs?
Now, from the tonsils to thegallbladder, even your thyroid
gland, every organ in our bodyis not there just to take up

(01:12):
space.
It has a function.
But what happens when we haveto remove it?
Are there long-termconsequences or is it basically
if you survive the surgery,you're good to go?
Could we be doing more to keepthese organs healthy and avoid
surgery?
Well, we're going to answer allthese questions and more, and
try to help you understand howeach part of our body

(01:33):
contributes to our overallhealth and what we can do to
support that.
So let's jump on in with thefirst aspect of this Elena
missing any organs.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
The first aspect of this, elena, missing any organs
Way to call me out on that one,but yes, you know, part of my
inspiration for this as well wasthat I had my tonsils removed
when I was 21 and I am stilldealing with the consequences of
it.
So I would love to help preventanyone possible to not lose
these, you know, these extraorgans, and if you have, let's

(02:08):
find a way to live betterwithout them, because it's too
late.
You can't turn back the clock.
I wish I could get my tonsilsback.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
It's too late, yeah, and we see lots of people
missing organs.
But let's clarify which organsare considered extra, because
you do hear that right.
The most common ones aregallbladder, tonsils, appendix,
but even a kidney, your spleen,the thyroid or part of your

(02:39):
thyroid, the prostate gland,ovaries.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, how about the one that I saw on Google?
It says an eyeball is an extraorgan.
I don't know who wrote that.
Who made that up?
Sure, you could live withoutone of your eyes or one of your
arms or legs, but that's notreally what we want to talk
about today.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, we're not going to.
So for all of you out therewondering about how life without
an eyeball is going to go,that's not going to be covered
today.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, talking more about other organs, right.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
So let's talk about what each organ actually does,
because, as we're, you know,we're not going to go through
absolutely everything in thebody, like I said, that you can
live without.
But the big ones, like, whatdoes your gallbladder actually
do?
Your gallbladder stores andreleases bile, and that helps
with fat digestion andabsorption.
Or the appendix you know, yourappendix is actually part of the

(03:34):
lymphatic and immune system.
Remember, your lymph is yourgarbage can and the appendix is
important for storing goodbacteria.
It helps prevent infection.
Or your tonsils, also part ofthe lymph and immune system.
They help to trap toxins in themouth.
They're like air filters.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
And kidneys that remove waste from the blood and,
through your waste from theblood through the urine, helps
to control our blood pressure.
Then there's our spleen.
That's part of both yourlymphatic and your immune system
and it filters your blood.
It destroys old blood cells.
Thyroid gland supports yourmetabolism and how your body

(04:18):
transforms nutrients into energy.
There's the prostate gland thatadds fluid to sperm traveling
up from the testes and, by theway, if you remove the prostate,
the sperm just gets reabsorbedby the body and there will be no
more babies from you.
Ovaries that help producehormones like estrogen and

(04:40):
progesterone, and stores theeggs that women need to make
babies.
So yeah, there's a lot going onwith all of these, I think, and
we're going to talk about someof the ins and outs of all of
them, and maybe you are one ofthe ones, like me, who've had to
say goodbye to an organ.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Let's talk about what your body has to do to
compensate once they've beenremoved.
Your gallbladder like wementioned it, helps with
digesting fat.
So if you don't have it, you'regonna struggle to digest those
fats from here on out andbecause of that struggle it can
cause gas and bloating, diarrhea, nausea, you know, that's just
to mention a few.
And that's because you don'thave sufficient bile anymore.

(05:20):
But what is bile?
Why do we even need it?
B bile anymore.
But what is bile?
Why do we even need it?
Bile is made up of salts andacids and phospholipids,
cholesterol, water and chemicalsthat keep the total solution
just a bit alkaline, becauseeverything coming from your
stomach is going to be a littleacidic.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
And the bile that goes from.
Well, it gets dumped from,ideally, your gallbladder, right
.
Well, it gets dumped from,ideally, your gallbladder, right
, it's taking all the garbageout.
But there's important thingslike salts and enzymes that are
going to help you break down allof the fats and proteins that
are going to help neutralize thefood bolus.

(05:58):
We'll call it the bolus.
It's the lump of the food,gross, now that it's all chewed
up and acidified, moving fromyour stomach into your small
intestine.
When it goes in, bile shouldget squirted out of the
gallbladder and it helps toneutralize all of that so that
in the small intestine, as thepancreatic enzymes and those

(06:21):
bile salts further break downthe food, all of the lymphatic
tissue in your small intestinecan help to absorb the nutrition
.
But when you don't have agallbladder, guess what?
There's no big squirt of bile,it's just now.
You have this duct where youhad your liver, and then it goes
into the gallbladder where it'slike a holding tank.

(06:43):
And then there's this, thisduct that goes into the small
intestine.
Well, that's, the holdingtank's gone.
So now it's just a steady bitof bile and it's not enough to
handle a full meal most of thetime.
So this causes people who'velost their gallbladder to
basically not all the time but alot of the time still suffer

(07:05):
chronic diarrhea or green greasystools or difficulty just
digesting fat.
A lot of people say I'm sonauseated if I eat something
fried, since I've had mygallbladder taken out or even
just with a gallbladder thatdoesn't work right.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, and it can really slow down how you're
going to digest food.
And then you know that leads tothe next thing the appendix
Okay, and it can really slowdown how you're going to digest
food.
And then you know that leads tothe next thing the appendix
Okay.
You have struggled digestingfood with your gall bladder and
then your appendix that's yourstorehouse for good bacteria.
So you're more prone toinfection when you don't have
that because your appendix itreleases good probiotics, good
flora, into your colon and whenyou have an infection it

(07:44):
releases that in an extra amount.
And if you take that away,you've lost some of the ability
to repopulate your colon and youwon't have as much beneficial
bacteria.
So now you're struggling todigest, you're struggling to
have enough good flora, and itjust continues.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, and I will say in general, we tend to see fewer
appendectomies now, andappendicitis typically happens
to kids and teenagers.
I can't remember what the exactage range is, but it's like
under age 20 is when most ofthem happen, and more often than
not now.
And if the appendices have notburst, then they're going to

(08:25):
treat you with really strongantibiotics and you still may
have to be inpatient so they canwatch because the risk of
rupture is high.
And if your appendix rupturesit can kill you because that's
bacteria that just exploded allin your peritoneal cavity, right
.
So sepsis is a real risk.
Serotonin cavity right.

(08:47):
So sepsis is a real risk.
But when you think about it, asfar as just inflammation of the
appendix, you have to considerthat 70% of your immune system
is held in your guts, so that'sa big deal.
When it's like, hey guys, we'reout here hanging on to the good
stuff and there you go, you'regone.
And I think you know having the,the level of antibiotics that

(09:08):
they have to use forappendicitis, is it's
significant?
Um, it's, they're no joke andand they do come with side
effects.
But I think you know, to befair, we should say those can
save your appendix, right.
Are you going to have someother healing to do from all the

(09:28):
other good bacteria that gotkilled by those nuclear bombs?
Yes, yes, you are, but you'llstill have your appendix and you
can recover.
So I think that that has beento me a positive trend in
surgery, just to see that we'renow treating appendicitis more

(09:49):
than just as a surgicalprocedure.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, and I'd love to see that.
Move over to tonsils, becausewhat I didn't realize for the
longest time is that we actuallyhave four types of tonsils.
The palatine tonsils, though,are usually what gets surgically
removed when they becomeinflamed.
These are the tonsils on thesides of the back of the throat,
and when they get reallyswollen, they actually touch.

(10:14):
We call them kissing tonsils,so you can imagine how hard
breathing may become if you haveyour airway obstructed by
swollen tonsils, and that's whatmy experience was.
I couldn't hardly breathe.
And yet, if you think about it,if you have a clogged filter in
your car or your house, youdon't just throw it away and not
replace it.

(10:35):
We can't replace tonsils, butliterally we're cutting them out
and throwing them out insteadof cleaning them or, in terms of
immune system support, cleaningthem, or, you know, in terms of
immune system support, becauseif you don't take care of that,
you are going to stay sick andcontinue to struggle to breathe.
Enlarged tonsils contributealso to snoring and sore throats
and bad breath, and people withallergies and even food

(10:58):
sensitivities tend to deal withswollen tonsils more often.
When you remove the tonsils,you might think you solved the
problem, but you really justremoved some of the filters you
needed to clean the lymphaticsystem.
Can you live?
Oh, absolutely.
Is it ideal to remove thetonsils?
Not really, in our opinion.
You need those little filters.
And then you know a spleen, oneof the other ones that's part

(11:21):
of the lymphatic system.
It's usually removed due totrauma or laceration.
Lots of times it's from a carwreck or a hard hit, maybe
sports related, and we know thespleen is part of your lymph and
immune system.
So when it's gone your entiresystem has to work harder and
you can actually get sick moreoften.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, and I think it's important to like to
understand.
Your lymphatic system is tiedinto your immune system, right?
Your lymphatic system is thisone and we've talked about this,
I think, in earlier podcastepisodes but it's a one-way
system where we have lymph nodesand tonsils are part of that
and a lot of it, like I think80% of your body's lymph, is

(12:01):
from your occipital nodes downto the subclinicular, so it's
all like head and neck region.
Those nodes are clusters ofwhite blood cells, so they act
like little scrubbers, right?
So you've got these vesselsthat are taking all of this
fluid and even in your tonsilsit's like hey, there's dust,
there's a food that we don'tlike, whatever it is, we got to

(12:25):
scrub that up.
And so your tonsils areclusters of, they hold clusters
of white blood cells, and sowhen we're removing those or
removing the spleen you knowit's significant Especially when
you remove the spleen, peopleare more likely to have really
serious, really evenlife-threatening infections like

(12:47):
septicemia, meningitis andthose are huge things and
pneumococcal pneumonia, I think,is one of them.
But also you are more likely tohave a minor infection turn into
something really serious whenyou don't have a spleen and
you're also, I think doubletriple your chances to get any

(13:10):
kind of infection when you don'thave a spleen.
Why?
Because it's part of yourlymphatic and your immune system
and those risks last throughoutyour life, it's not just hey.
You know, these first threemonths after your splenectomy
are real important.
Yes, they are important.
But even going forward, peoplewho don't have a spleen have to

(13:31):
do more.
They have to be more careful,and there's even some research
that suggests you have anincreased risk of blood cancers
like leukemias and lymphomas.
And with your tonsils, you know,I think an interesting side
note is that you can regrow yourtonsils.
I keep hoping you may takethose suckers out and then they

(13:55):
may come right back.
But even if they don't, like,we can see where people's
tonsils have been cut out.
And one thing that I learned inneurotherapy, which is
definitely alternative toWestern medicine, but we're
really resetting an area offunction and it's really
important to treat scars in thebody.

(14:16):
And if you've had atonsillectomy, treating the
tonsil scars is very important,and we'll do a demonstration
someday on Elena's tonsil scars.
She trusts me not to stick aneedle in her throat.
Then there's so kidneys right,let's move on.

(14:37):
And I think that we should justpoint out the obvious.
We're not saying both kidneysare extra.
You've got to keep one and somepeople are born just with one
kidney.
But if you remove both kidneysyou're a goner, you know,

(14:59):
unfortunately.
So people lose kidneys, peopledonate kidneys.
We're not going into all ofthat.
There are many reasons we loseour organs, but you have to
consider the function of thatorgan and your kidneys play a
role in controlling your bloodpressure, um control,

(15:20):
controlling fluid balance andhydration and, of course,
getting waste out via the urinefrom your body.
So losing one can be veryimpactful and only having one
kidney, it can havecomplications like increased
protein in your urine, you canhave a lowered glomerular

(15:45):
filtration rate or ability tofilter blood, because in that
filtering blood you're filteringtoxins as well, and that's just
something significant.
The risk of only having onekidney is that there is no
fallback and I think, if youbelieve in the intelligent

(16:05):
design of the body and you gookay, well, why did we get two?
Well, possibly because you'regoing to need them, and I've
always said this this is mything on teeth oh, teeth, extra
organs, wisdom teeth Didn'tquite make the cut, didn't make
the cut, but another day.
But we, why do we have so manyteeth?
Why didn't we just get twoteeth?

(16:26):
I mean because different teethhave different jobs.
But if you lose one tooth, Imean it could be problematic.
You'll probably be okay.
But you've got a lot of otherteeth there to stand in right.
Your smile's not going to be aspretty, but you can make up for
it.
But when you only have one ortwo of something, you have to
question well, okay, how well amI going to do without this?

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Just a thought yeah, you don't want to lose those
teeth, but you also don't wantto lose your thyroid.
Let's talk about the thyroid.
Your thyroid is known as themaster of your metabolism, and
many people think that that'sonly related to weight, but it's
so much more, because when wesay metabolism, don't think
simply weight.
This is about how your bodyuses energy.

(17:13):
Now, without a thyroid, youwill have to be on meds the rest
of your life because you haveto replace the hormones your
thyroid makes.
This is absolutely necessary tolife.
But in the grand scheme ofthings, I'd say this is probably
one of the easiest organs tohandle life without, so long as
you have access to themedications.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Right right that are very impactful for growth, for
blood pressure, for bodytemperature, heart rate, energy
expenditure, um plays a role inthe menstrual cycle and thus
fertility Um in women.
There are many women who havecome to us before they go to a

(18:00):
fertility specialist and somepeople just aren't willing to go
that IVF route for whateverreason.
But one of the first things wecheck is thyroid, because if
your thyroid doesn't work, youwill not be getting pregnant.
And we have, you know enoughthrough the years where it's
like, yeah, look at that, yougot pregnant, All it needed was

(18:21):
a little, and it's not.
Even we're not practicingmedicine, we're not prescribing
thyroid hormone.
We're.
We're looking at it from afunctional perspective because
they're the ranges on thyroidare so crazy wide Right, and I
think it's important to haveranges with hormones because

(18:42):
where Elena may go, oh my gosh,I feel so revved up and her T3
level is the same as mine andI'm like, eh, you know, she's
more sensitive to it or her bodyoperates as our unique
bioidentities and the way thatour body processes those thyroid

(19:02):
hormones can be impacted by ourimmune system.
If your immune system is reallyangry at you and making
antibodies, it could be aninflammatory issue.
But when you're not makingenough hormone or that hormone
doesn't have anything to bindonto to be taken into the cell,

(19:23):
because all of where yourthyroid hormone gets used is in
the nucleus of the cell and ifthat's not happening, that's a
problem, but even more so youtake that thyroid out.
You're not going to live verylong, so it's a big deal to lose

(19:46):
your thyroid.
But I think if you it'sthyroid's not a terrible like.
It's pretty straightforward.
Right If you have your thyroidtaken out and we'll talk about
reasons why, right.
But when you lose your thyroid,just having that thyroid hormone
replacement is really important, obviously for life, even with

(20:07):
babies.
You know, if you don't haveenough thyroid hormone for a
baby, they could be mentallyretarded in their development,
and I don't mean that in a nonpolitically correct way, I mean
truly developmentally delayed orstunted in their intellectual
growth and physical growth.

(20:28):
And if you look athypothyroidism, what are the
symptoms?
Weight gain, depression, brainfog, dry skin, infertility,
constipation.
Did I say constipation?
Say it again Constipation isreal bad people.
Um, those are some of.
And when we see a lot morehypothyroid, I think yeah a lot

(20:52):
of it is in people who've hadthat thyroid removed or
partially removed.
Even if you have, like a cancer, some doctors will just take
out one side of the thyroid andthen some will take out the
whole thyroid or they'll kill itand it's.
It can be dealt with, but it'sharder.

(21:12):
I think you make things morecomplicated, so that's difficult
, okay.
And then there's the prostate.
It's a tiny little, I think, awalnut-shaped gland or size
about the size of a walnut or aping pong ball.
It can cause major problems.
I think if we took a poll,everybody knows some man with

(21:36):
prostate cancer or BPH, orbenign prostatic hypertrophy.
But when you take that prostateout you're going to have
problems because the prostategland, it actually surrounds the
urethra and the urethra is thetube that carries urine from the
bladder out of the body, tubethat carries urine from the

(22:00):
bladder out of the body and italso makes the prostate has
these little vesicles on it andit makes the fluid that carries
sperm out.
So it's the non-sperm part ofsemen, right?
So if you don't have semen, youdon't get the sperm out of the
body.
So that's a big problem.
It's fine, I guess, if you'renot interested in reproducing or

(22:23):
you've planted all the seedsyou're going to plant.
Many men will struggle withincontinence following
prostatectomies and many menunfortunately suffer nerve
damage during their surgery andit leaves them unable to get an
erection.
And that can be very difficultboth mentally and physically for

(22:46):
a man who maybe still wants tobe sexually active.
And now they don't have thatability.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Well, and how?
About what we are seeing in menin their 20s and 30s and 40s?
They're already showing signsof prostate problems in
thermographies.
And you know, I think we'veprobably mentioned before your
prostate acts as a barometer foryour body's overall toxicity,
and at least we say that all thetime, because people don't
realize that.
And I think it's largely due totwo things.

(23:15):
One, people sit so much morenowadays than we used to.
We're so sedentary, and sittingis the new smoking.
You've got to get up and move.
The body is designed to move.
But then the second thing isthink about the cell phones and
the electronics.
And you know, people setlaptops and we're talking about
prostate right now, but thiswould apply to ovaries too.

(23:36):
Setting your electronics nearthe groin, near those
reproductive organs, you'reliterally radiating them with
the EMFs.
So there's just so many factors, but those I think are the two
biggest that are affectingprostate health in younger and
younger men.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
For sure, oh yeah.
And then the ovaries are babymakers, right?
When you take the ovaries out,obviously there shall be no more
children from you.
Well, you already got them?
Yeah, hopefully you already gotthem.
So, um, you, your ovaries, domore than just store eggs,

(24:19):
though.
They are the main producers ofestrogen and progesterone, and
those are the hormones arefemale hormones.
And so when you take out theovaries, you're automatically
thrown into what's calledsurgical menopause.
And menopause, of course, isthe time of life when we stop
ovulation and we stopmenstruating, and it happens

(24:44):
anywhere.
I mean should happen anywherefrom 40s to mid 50s.
I think the average age of youknow where menstruation stops is
like 51, 52, maybe I'll figuretwo.
But if you think about menopausejust the word there's not a lot
of positive energy carriedaround that word.
When you say it, people thinkhot flashes raging.

(25:08):
Is it called menopausaldysphoria?
I think sleep disruption,menopausal dysphoria, I think
sleep disruption, lowered libido, it's all the things that make
women dread that season of lifein midlife.
And again, you know there arehormones to replace that, but

(25:30):
they're not your hormones.
They may be bioidentical, butthey're still not your hormones.
And finding that balance can betricky and it can be something
that takes time to do and apartfrom not being able to produce

(25:51):
your own offspring anymore, Imean, I know there are
technological advances aroundthat with egg donors and whatnot
, but you know your ovaries,it's it's impactful to keep them
when you can right when you can.
Yeah, so okay when all theseorgans or hopefully not all so

(26:21):
okay when all these organs orhopefully not all, but hopefully
singular you lose one of theseorgans.
So when these organs aresurgically removed, something
usually has been going on solong and it's been ignored, that
you find yourself in the middleof some life-threatening
situation or infection andyou're faced with life or death

(26:42):
and get rid of this organ, andthat's a terrible place to find
yourself.
But how could you preventgetting to the point of
requiring organ removal?
Okay, one of the first thingsthat I think we tend to forget
is pain.
Pain is a signal from your bodyand we should never ignore pain

(27:04):
.
Agreed, we should never ignoredigestive issues.
I think that this is a big onewhere we all accept a certain
level of gas and bloating andconstipation and weird bowel
movements or reflux as justnormal, and it's not.

(27:26):
It may be common, but what iscommon is not always normal and
I think that that really getslost in our culture and I think
a lot of that is based aroundthe way we live our lives and
the foods that make up our foodsystem, honestly.
But then there's also fatigueand weight gain and weight loss,

(27:50):
which those often go hand inhand, right, the fatigue with
the weight changes.
That's not normal and I thinkthat I know I was guilty of this
when I didn't realize I wasdealing with autoimmune issues.
I had three kids and I justthought this is what it's like
to be a mom and not get enoughsleep and that was not what was
going on at all.

(28:11):
It's a slippery slope, but it'sthe same thing with the life of
our organs and I think withespecially, like a lot of what
we talked about are glands.
Right, they're very prone totoxicity or they're prone to
influence by toxins andpathogens, and it can hit
everybody in very differentareas and in different ways, but

(28:35):
it's important to know you canhave these other processes, like
some people lose their spleensbecause of car wrecks, right,
and, like you said, hard hits,like football players, boxers,
or somebody got mugged and they,you know, got hit real hard.
That's a terrible movie, right,it's a plot film movie.
You'll wash your spleen.

(28:55):
But there is more to it thanjust, oh my gosh, I'm in this
life-threatening situation, hell, and unfortunately, some people
wait till that point.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, I think that's just human nature.
We push through a lot.
I think that's just humannature.
We push through a lot.
And I know, back with mytonsils, I pushed through a lot
and I didn't know that therewere ways to save them.
I kind of knew a little bitabout supplements, but that
wasn't enough.
Or a gallbladder.
If I didn't know what I knowand we didn't practice what we

(29:30):
practice, I would have lost mygallbladder years ago.
That little bugger has beensuch a problem for so long and
it isn't anymore because I'veapplied all these lifestyle
hacks such as a livergallbladder flush.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
You know if you are having any kind of gallbladder
or even pancreatitis symptoms.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
A liver gallbladder flush can turn that around
within 24 hours.
But you have to know how to doit and what you're doing before
you get to that point, and sothat's a big one.
And coffee enemas when you do acoffee enema you are doing some
cleaning liver gallbladderflush.
In enemas you are doing deepcleaning on your liver and

(30:09):
gallbladder and all those bileducts.
And when you do an enema youcan sometimes flush out stones.
They're typically the soft onesand you want them.
Enema you can sometimes flushout stones.
They're typically the soft onesand you want them out when
they're soft before they're hard.
So that's a great tool.
And castor packing it's likemore and more people know about
castor oil packing and yet I aska lot of people okay, you know
about it, are you doing it?
And most people aren't.

(30:30):
So if you're listening and youaren't one of those people who
are doing it yet, that's justone of the best home hacks you
could possibly do as aprevention and you know when
you're under a gallbladderattack, these things are helpful
.
There are more things we can do, but you know that's where you
need to see a professional,because there's not just one
remedy, other than maybe somestone breaker chancopiator.

(30:53):
That's a really big one thatyou can use for gallbladder and
kidney stones.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, and I think another thing with a gallbladder
is one thing.
If you go to your doctor andsay, could I do a gallbladder
flush, could I do a coffee enema?
And they're going to go oh mygosh, who have you been seeing?
Let's clarify.
I think that here's myeditorial.
What gives us a bad name ispeople who are in an acute

(31:23):
gallbladder attack.
Their gallbladder is full ofstones, their ducts are blocked
and now they've decided to do agallbladder flush or a copy
enema.
It's too late for a lot ofthose people and it's not this
DIY thing.
I mean it can be if you do itearly enough, and so I just I

(31:45):
feel like it's important tothrow out there these are we're
not crazy for saying this theseare time-tested.
You know we always bribeeveryone time-tested.
You know ancient wisdom andcutting-edge technology.
But you got to do it at theright time, all of it, and I
think because it is so simplethat it is a very approachable
technique for a lay person.

(32:07):
But timing is everything right.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah Well, and that goes back to don't ignore the
pain If you're having, you know,don't ignore digestive issues,
because if you're having pain ordigestive issues in the upper
right quadrant you need toconsider liver, gallbladder and
start some of these practicesbefore you're in that emergency
situation.
And I think the same applies toappendix, tonsils, spleen.

(32:33):
There's a lot you can do foryour immune system at the first
signs of immune stress.
There's a lot of herbs andsupplements and once again I
don't want to go into thatminutiae because we like to
customize that for each personin each condition.
But another big one islymphatic therapy.
That can prevent so much.
When you're doing lymphatictherapy you are literally

(32:54):
cleaning the little washingmachines.
Remember those little whiteblood cell clusters in the lymph
nodes.
We need to help those movethrough lymphatic therapy and
massage and dry skin brushing.
And you can also cast oil pack.
You can cast oil pack any partof the body that's inflamed or
needs a little TLC so you can dothe cast oil pack over the
appendix, over the tonsils, overthe spleen.

(33:16):
But another big one, at leastfor the tonsils, is gargling,
gargling salt water.
That can help prevent a lot ofinfection and just help
sterilize those little filtersthat are working so hard for you
, if you still have them and ifyou don't, you just got to work
a little harder.
But then there's kidneys.

(33:36):
It's a lot of the samepractices, honestly.
You can cast or oil pack thekidneys.
You can cast or oil packanything Right, but it will only
do you so much good, especiallyfor the kidneys, if you aren't
getting adequate hydration.
That's one of the best ways tohelp your kidneys keep working
for you, because they areworking so hard to filter out

(33:58):
all the toxins that we'reexposed to all day, every day.
But there's also homeopathicremedies that'll help improve
the function and the filtrationfor the kidneys and the liver
and the lymph all of those.
So when we see someone in thesesituations that need support,
we're always going to considerdo we need just the home

(34:20):
remedies or homeopathics, or theherbs and supplements?
It's always a combination ofthese things, but there's a lot
you can do to take care of themand prevent losing them.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Right To your note about hydration, especially with
the kidneys.
That's so true, and I thinkit's important to talk about
hydration just for a minute,because it does pertain to the
health and vitality of ourorgans, our extra organs, you
know, even your tonsils.
One thing that is important ishow do you hydrate?

(34:54):
Okay, oh, good, yeah.
And how do you hydrate?
Okay, yeah.
And what do you hydrate with?
Because not all water is thesame.
I hope and pray that anybodylistening to this podcast is not
drinking tap water.
I don't care where you live.
Please don't drink tap water,especially if you're in America.

(35:15):
Yeah, it's disgusting and Ican't really say it's safe.
The type of water you drink isimportant.
There is no perfect scenario,and I think that that's a really
important disclaimer, andsometimes I feel like this is a
wormhole and I just want tospend one moment going down it
because water is life right.

(35:35):
Wormhole, and I just want tospend one moment going down it
because water is life right.
There are different kinds ofwater, and distilled water is
technically dead water becauseyou've taken out all the
minerals.
But it's important to note thatdistillation is the only way to
take out radioactive elementsright, and radioactive elements
can affect your thyroid, yourpancreas, your kidneys, your

(36:00):
liver, everything, yourlymphatic system.
So we do kind of consider I'mgoing to say not a hundred
percent of the time, butbasically distilled water, and
we add baculactylates and wehave one product that we
specifically enjoy, but thereare many good products out there

(36:20):
.
It's important to hydrate yourbody appropriately.
Reverse osmosis, berkey thoseare great runners up because
they do remove a lot of toxicelements pharmaceutical
medications but they don'tremove radioactive elements and
with all the toxin testing thatwe've done, we have been
astounded by the level ofradioactive elements.

(36:44):
Why are we all showing up withso much uranium?
And I know 15 years ago, when Iwas doing this, I was like why
has everyone got uranium?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
I mean, are there any cleaner weapons around?

Speaker 1 (36:54):
here we don't know about?
I didn't know, but I think thathydration is important.
And then how you hydrate andthis is something I tell people
all the time, and this you know,men with your prostates
especially, this is somethingyou should pay attention to are
people with decreased kidneyfunction, if you want to save
that kidney.
This is important because ifyou think of a dried up plant

(37:18):
that I always think of this poorlittle ivy plant that I had in
college and we went home for theholidays and forgot about it
and it was so dried up when wegot back and so we thought, oh,
water it, it needs a lot ofwater.
Well, it still died because youcan imagine, as a stupid 18
year old, I just doused it andit still died of dehydration.

(37:40):
We're the same way.
You can drink 64 ounces ofwater in one sitting.
I don't recommend it.
Just because you can glugsomething down Doesn't mean your
cells are going to absorb allof that, so much of it can't be
absorbed at one time and you'rejust going to excrete it out and
your cells don't get thebenefit of that hydration.

(38:00):
And so I think drinkingconsistently throughout the day
is more important for yourlymphatic function, um, for
kidney function, for prostatefunction, plus men.
If you forget to drink all dayand you are already dealing with
prostate problems and you'retrying to save your prostate and

(38:20):
you decide to drink all of yourwater before you go to bed,
guess what you won't be doing?
That you will not be sleeping.
Um, but also carbonatedbeverages, I think, and and I I
mean, I'm sitting here with mylovely sparkling water because I
wanted a treat but carbonatedbeverages are hard on your

(38:41):
kidneys, they can be verydehydrating, they can upset
digestion and it is important toto keep those minimal, I think
we need to be careful to drinkmore water and less of the other
things that are going todehydrate and tax the organs
that we need them to work on.
And I will stop with my lectureon hydration.

(39:03):
We could do just one on water.
Yeah, it is.
We could do one on water, okay.
But thyroid, let's talk aboutthis.
So to say here, thyroid.
Most of the time when peoplelose their thyroid is because of
cancer.
Hear, thyroid most of the timewhen people lose their thyroid
is because of cancer and as faras cancers go, thyroid cancer is
very responsive to surgerywithout radiation and

(39:24):
chemotherapy.
So, in the grand scheme ofthings, not bad, right, um, but
nobody talks about why peopleget thyroid cancer.
Is there a family connection?
Sometimes?
You know there is, but there isalways something coming out in

(39:47):
the news in NIH journals aboutsome new toxin and some new
chemical, about some new toxinand some new chemical.
And whenever you hear the wordendocrine disruptors, you need
to think what is that doing tomy thyroid?
Because that is, you thinkabout your throat and your
thyroid sits right below yourAdam's apple and when you

(40:10):
swallow things it's going rightby it.
May not touch it directly, butit's going right by it.
It may not touch it directly,but it's going right by it, and
so chemicals in our environmentcan be very disruptive to our
endocrine system.
Fluoride is a big one.
We'll do the fluoridecontroversy some other day.
Just suffice it to say thescience is not there supporting

(40:33):
fluoride-province cavities.
Bull no, it doesn't.
Bromides and chemicals that comefrom like PCBs, bpas these are
plastics, right and PFAs, pufasAll of these chemicals.
They bind to thyroid hormonereceptors, which are little.

(40:58):
They're little, like suctioncups that hold on to thyroid
hormone.
It's like here, I'll get youwhere you're going, I'll just
taxi you over here and you gotto go on this nucleus so they
get messed with.
So you end up with real bigproblems, and before you lose
your thyroid, you usually havedisease or thyroid hormone

(41:20):
disruption.
Other things to watch out for ifyou're interested in saving
your thyroid cosmetics how dirtyis our makeup industry?
Pretty disruptive to our wholehormone endocrine system.
But food and beverage packaging, plastics, toys, carpets,

(41:43):
pesticides, flame retardants,things like that All of those
things are bad for the thyroid.
All of those things canincrease the risk of getting
thyroid cancer.
And thus you know, being facedwith the decision do I need to
lose?
Am I going to lose my thyroid?
But things that you can doagain to Elena's castor oil

(42:05):
packing love it.
I think that's something that'sreally important.
There's no remedy, one remedyor one vitamin or one mineral or
one supplement that's going tosave or prevent you losing a
thyroid or thyroid disease,because our whole thyroid

(42:26):
metabolic pathway involves manycomponents B12, c, magnesium,
selenium, all of these thingsand and I think that's why it's
important to realize we're not abunch of little
compartmentalized pieces.
Everything works together.
So that's that's important.
And same thing can be said ofthe prostate for men less

(42:50):
plastic, less sitting, way morestanding.
Dr Mercola says he stands upall but two hours a day and I
thought is that really true?
I think it's true.
I was in a class with him, wewere together.
I remember I was like I'mwatching him, I want to see if
he really stands, and he did.

(43:11):
I think that it's important totreat the prostate carefully.
Guys, this is something toprotect the prostate, and
whenever I have couples in here,I love saying it because
protect the prostate.
And whenever I have couples inhere, I love saying it because I
mean it's.
It's funny, because when youtell a man, yeah, one of the

(43:36):
best things for your prostate isfrequent ejaculation.
You can see the wife's eyesroll back in her head.
It's funny.
But, um, standing up, walking,staying away from the chemicals
that I mentioned for the thyroid, because those are going to
affect ovaries and prostate,kind of the same.
Um, lymphatic therapy is alsoreally important where the

(43:57):
prostate is.
You have a very big cluster ofinguinal lymph nodes in in the
whole groin region, and sokeeping that cleaned out and
circulating I think wearing realtight underwear or real tight
pants, that's pretty bad too.
Um, and yeah, I think that's it.

(44:18):
There is, there is evidence toshow for men who don't want to
have a prostatectomy that doinga healthy, plant-based diet can
be very beneficial.
And I don't think that it'sanimal protein that's the
problem.
I think it's the hormones andantibiotics and other components

(44:41):
of the animal food productsthat are available to us.
I think that's the biggerproblem, and same thing with the
ovaries.
And I would just like to say toand I want you to speak to this,
Elena I think that we can'tignore the emotional component
of all of these organs becausewe have people.

(45:05):
You know, every organ hasemotions tied to it and like, um
, lymphatic right, it's lettinggo, that's.
You know, if you're somebodywho holds on to everything, that
can be problem, problematic foryour health Gallbladder, it's

(45:25):
bitterness and resentment.
You know how apropos.
I think acknowledging emotions,acknowledging past traumas and
dramas is important andaddressing them and giving them
an exit out of your body.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Right, and I think that could be a whole other
topic, because the emotionalpart is so huge and it's easy to
go through all the checkboxesof okay, maybe all these
therapies or supplements, allthese things, but to forget the
emotional component.
You could be missing thebiggest key.
And everyone's different, but Ithink we all still need to make

(46:04):
sure that we're addressingevery aspect of the spiritual,
emotional, physical, no matterwhich organ we're dealing with,
for sure.
And you know, sometimes itbecomes necessary, therefore
beneficial, to remove the organs, because that's what people ask
all the time Well, should I,should I not?
It's like well, you have todecide what you're willing to do

(46:25):
and if you've done it soonenough, because typically when
things have been left too long,like we've already mentioned,
you know you could die from someof these, some of these things.
So if you've reached a pointwhere it is life or death, you
don't have a choice.
So we like to tell people makeall the choices you can now to
be proactive.
So then you don't have to bereactive and make a choice, kind

(46:47):
of like I did with my tonsils.
You know you make a choice thatyou can't take back, and you
know I was miserable, I didn'tknow what else to do, and I
think that's where most peopleget.
You know we're not pointingfingers at anyone who's lost an
organ or, you know, had to haveit removed, not blaming you.
Life happens, you didn't knowhow to do anything different, so
that is going to happen.
But if you want to be proactive, we've got a lot of ways that

(47:12):
can help you so you aren't stuckin that reactive place.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, judgment has no place in healthcare.
No no, it's, it's only to help.
Our job is to help you liveyour healthiest life possible
and we can't give everybodyperfect health.
That's not our job, it's notour ability to do that.
But we can give you the tools,yeah, yeah.

(47:35):
So in in us healthcare, really,you know it's built more about
being reactive than proactive.
So you know, when no otheroptions are available, you have
to react and sometimes surgeryis the right thing to do.
Preventive care is beingproactive.

(47:58):
It's saying, hey, you know thisruns in my family and I'm gonna
, I am going to take better careof my liver or not.
Your liver is not removable,but my gallbladder, everybody in
my family is missing theirgallbladder.
Or you know, everyone's gottheir tonsils out and everyone
has allergies, whatever.

(48:19):
But we've given you a lot oftools.
Unfortunately, big medicine, bigpharma, don't think a lot of
our tools and our answersbecause there's not a lot of
money in it to be made.
But we just feel like a bigmessage here needs to be food is

(48:40):
medicine.
When you can't afford to comesee us, when you can't afford to
come see us, or you can'tafford to buy some magic pill or
potion, you can afford to makebetter choices for what goes in
your mouth.
You may not make perfectchoices, and that's not
necessary all the time, butthere is so much available that

(49:02):
does not cost very much that cangive you a better level of
health and could even help yousave your organs.
Um, food is number one.
Energy work not woo, woo orvoodoo, but energy work is very
important and powerful.
Um, like we just talked aboutemotions, just addressing
underlying traumas and dramas inyour past, that helps

(49:26):
correcting the functionaltoxicities and deficiencies.
That's really helpful.
And all of those things arebeing proactive.
And then preventive removeright, that's when you go to the
er with a gallbladder attackand I'm like, yeah, there's some
sludge in there, let's just goahead and take it.
It's so common, it is, and Ithink gallbladder and tonsils

(49:49):
are some of the prime victimsfor OCHE, but breasts are too.
I mean, we didn't even throwthose in, but breasts are too.
And unfortunately there's notenough time.
But if medicine were more opento acupuncture and
detoxification practices likethe castor oil packing, like the
gallbladder flushes,hydrocholine therapy, lymphatic

(50:11):
drainage work, homeopathy all ofthis we could accomplish so
much more in health care.
Right Medicine has its placeand we acknowledge it and we're
grateful for it.
Acknowledge it and we'regrateful for it.
We just want to help peopleavoid surgery and even then,

(50:34):
avoiding surgery and regaininghealth is the goal.
So yeah, we always say you canget yourself treated out of a
tumor, you can get yourselftreated out of a disease process
, but that does not put you in astate of health.
It doesn't mean, oh, you gotrid of this thing, so now you're
healthy.
No, and it's that old adagethat health is not merely the
absence of disease, it's so muchmore.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Well, and it comes down to what lifestyle choices
are you willing to make toprevent yourself getting into
one of these positions where youhave to have an organ removed
because you didn't prevent?
You know you didn't take thesteps and you know one of the
biggest things is avoidingprocessed and fried foods.
There's eating good and eatingbad and some people think, well,

(51:15):
I'm not eating, you knowdrive-through all the time, but
I just eat it now and then.
Okay, well, now and then you'regetting all those chemicals
that are in the processed foodsand you know drive-through and
fried foods.
And you can't just avoid thebad foods, you have to eat the
good foods.
We talk about this all the time.
You have to have the rightamount of nutrients and

(51:36):
typically that's going to be adiet full of fiber and
antioxidants and fermented foodswhen tolerated, clean meats and
proteins.
But another big thing okay, youcan be eating the right foods,
but sometimes you need digestivehelp, like digestive enzymes.
That's one of our favoritesupplements to use.
Before we turn to anything else, let's make sure that you're
actually breaking down andabsorbing the food you have.

(51:57):
Whether you are missing some ofyour digestive organs or not,
making sure you have thosecatalysts to break down your
food is going to give you thebest chance at absorbing all
that nutrients.
But another lifestyle choicewould be lymphatic work.
We mentioned this before.
Everything comes back to thishow much are you doing to help

(52:18):
your body take out the trash?
So get regular lymphatic workand for some people do the stuff
every day.
But that might not be enough,especially if you have missing
tonsils or spleen or appendix.
If you're already missing partof that lymphatic system, you
may need to get regularlymphatic work.
That could be once a month,once a quarter, a couple of
times a year, whatever thatlooks like, but just to be

(52:40):
getting some regularprofessional help there.
And then let's say hydrationagain, because we can't state
that one enough.
So many people are dehydratedand you cannot flush out the
pipes if you don't have thewater.
But then another one, and Iknow we've talked about this in
past podcasts parasite cleanses,simply cleaning the bugs out

(53:04):
regularly.
Maybe that's once a year, maybeit's a couple couple times a
year.
That is also going to give yourimmune system and your body the
best chance at healing,absorbing all the nutrients you
know these little bugs can stealit all.
Make sure you're getting it.
So doing a routine parasitecleanse is simple, pretty easy,
but we can help you.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
When is the best time to do a parasite cleanse?
Elena?

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I'm glad you asked, sharon.
That is at the full moon Onceagain.
We might have said that before,but if you want to do a routine
, just an easy little routine,parasite cleanse, pick it around
the full moon.
We can guide you on whatsupplements to take and what to
do.
But the full moon is alwaysgoing to be the best time
because that's when the bugs arethe most active, the serotonin

(53:49):
is higher, the melatonin islower.
We've got that big, bright moonout and that's when they all
come out to breed.
So that's when we like to killthem, we like to exterminate
them.
So that's a very helpful tool.
But ultimately it comes down totaking care of your body as if
it were a temple.
I think a lot of people justget too tired and busy and
stressed and forget that ourbody is an amazing, precious

(54:12):
vessel.
It just needs a little help andlove sometimes and that can be
all the things we mentioned.
But just remember to value thatgift.
Life is a gift.
Yeah it is.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Life is a gift.
Yeah, it is.
And for someone out there whomay be faced with the decision
of losing an organ, we wouldjust advise you to be informed
with your choices weigh theconsequences and we say this
with everything.
Whether you're losing a part ofyour body, whether you're
putting something in your body,whatever it is you're doing,

(54:48):
weigh the consequences, becauseyou are going to be the one left
to deal with the consequenceseither way.
But just remember to beproactive with your health in
general.
Don't wait.
Don't put off preventivescreenings which for us the most
important is thermography, butyour annual blood work.

(55:08):
Don't put those things off.
Denial of need is not being Ithink some people equate that
with natural health and pleasestop, because you're giving us
all a bad name.
Be proactive and be willing tomake changes and you'll, you'll.
You know you usually havebetter outcomes.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Yep Be proactive, not reactive.
Yes, and you know that was aunique and extraordinary topic
that we can officially wrap uphere.
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