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November 20, 2023 45 mins

In the newest episode of the K6 Wellness Revolution Podcast, functional wellness
practitioners, Sharon Krahn and Elena Bach, from K6 Wellness Center, in Dallas, Texas,
delve into the Lymphatic System and its significance, offering insights on how to
effectively maintain its optimal functioning.

Elena, K6 Wellness Center's lymphatic expert, sheds light on the system's pivotal role in
bolstering immune function, facilitating digestion, and regulating fluid balance, while
lamenting its often overlooked status within the medical community. Elena imparts
valuable guidance on incorporating daily exercises, prioritizing hydration, and
steering clear of sedentary lifestyles and processed foods, which can have detrimental
effects on the lymphatic system. Furthermore, she explores the impact of
electromagnetic fields on this intricate network and expounds upon the advantages of
lymphatic therapy.

Enjoy the discussion as Sharon and Elena, underscore the utmost importance of
preventive maintenance for the lymphatic system, the unsung hero for optimal health.

Disclaimer: This is not medical advice - we do not diagnose or prescribe. This
conversation is for educational purposes only. Please seek advice from your
health practitioner.

For more information on K6 Wellness and Lymphatic Therapies, visit our website:
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This is not medical advice – we do not diagnose or prescribe. This conversation is for educational purposes only. Please seek advice from your health practitioner.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to K6 Wellness Revolution, where we
believe health is worth fightingfor.
This podcast focuses on allthings related to natural health
, wellness and vibrant living.
We know your time is valuableand I'm honored that you're
spending some of it here.
So get ready, because theWellness Revolution starts right
now.
Welcome, Hi, Alaina.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hi, welcome everyone, yes.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Today we are going into the often overlooked and
forgotten lymphatic system.
So, alaina, you're our in-houseexpert so I will defer to you.
All right Are all thingslymphatic?
But I think this is a reallygood topic because so many

(00:52):
people come in and they get athermography and we tell them,
oh, your lymph needs some help.
Or they complain about pain orvague symptoms and the first
thing you and I think of is, hmm, wonder how their lymphatic
circulation is.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, yeah, because no one thinks about it.
No.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
No, even in prepping for this, when we looked at the
medical literature I mean, theNIH National Institute of Health
had an article talking abouthow there's such a lack of
scientific and medical attentiongiven to the lymphatic system,
and it's sad because I thinkit's a really important part of

(01:35):
our physiology.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well it is.
And that's where I love that wedecided to talk about this
today, because I mean, how manytimes, sharon, do we see people
in our office and we starttalking about lymph?
And most people are clueless,oh for sure.
And I think we forget howclueless people are because it's
such an everyday thing to us,but a lot of people don't know

(01:57):
that it is one of the mostimportant functions in the body,
and so I'm excited to share alittle bit today with people
what it is and why it's soimportant.
And I think a good place tostart is, like what is the lymph
?

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah.
So let's say, Joe Schmoe comesin off the street and they just
got out of the office with meand they're like lymph, lymph,
what.
What do you tell somebody whoasks you what is this about my
lymph?
Why do I have to do this?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, I think there's a lot of scientific
explanations you can give people, but I think the easiest way to
understand it is to look at itlike a garbage system or even
the plumbing underneath yourhouse.
When the garbage or theplumbing backs up, the entire
body suffers Because you've gotthis whole system of lymph nodes
which are like filters, and alot of people know about filter,

(02:51):
not filters, but know about thelymph nodes when they're really
working hard.
You know, sharon, like we have,people come in like okay, can
you feel them in your neck?
People say I've got thisswollen lymph node, I have this
swollen that right here in mychest, and most times it's a
swollen lymph node and theselittle lymph nodes filter out

(03:12):
toxins such as bacterias andviruses, chemicals.
You name the toxin, your littlelymph nodes working hard to
clean that out.
And then you've got thelymphatic vessels which are the
pathways between the lymph nodes, and these pathways help.
It's a circulatory system, butyour lymph isn't pumped by your
heart like your blood is, so wehave to help create friction or

(03:36):
vibrations to help the lymphmove.
So, once again, what is it?
It's your garbage system.
And I like to talk to peopletoo about, hey, if you didn't
take your trash out in yourhouse, what would happen in your
house?
So imagine in your body what'shappening when you don't take
the trash out.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, and when you think about the vessels, as
there's so many analogies, somany word pictures you can draw
with this and I always tellpeople think about the pipes
under your house.
You want water going out thedrain.
You don't want water coming upthe drain.
What happens when that comesinto your bathtub, your shower,
your sink?
It's just, it's just, yeah,it's gross.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
So same thing, yeah.
So just understanding what itis in the first place helps.
I think it helps people thenunderstand why they need to take
care of it, because otherwisepeople are just like, oh, lymph,
I don't have to worry about ittill I get cancer or something.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, so here's the next newbie question.
So where is my lymph Like righthere under my throat?
Is that it?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Well, that's one of them, but you do have it from
head to toe.
You have lymph everywhere inyour body.
The biggest ones are going tobe at your neck, right at your
armpits, with apical nodes, andthen you've got the stomach.
That's your cisterna chile.
It's your largest lymph nodeand the funnest one to say
cisterna chile.
And then you've got the groinas well.

(05:10):
But another interesting thingto note is, while we have lymph
nodes from head to toe, 80% ofit is in the neck up.
Yeah, 80%.
And we're walking aroundconstantly, breathing in new
toxins and allergens and allthese things that are affecting
our health.
And, once again, if you aren'ttaking it out, you're going to

(05:31):
notice when they're swollen andthat's where it's the most
common, but it's everywhere.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Absolutely everywhere in the body.
You know, even in medicine wetell people most viruses come in
through the ears and the nose.
So you kind of want a lot ofdrainage support there.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
But the lymph is going to be part of the immune
system.
It's your first line of defense.
You're exposed to a new virusor bacteria.
You know anything like that?

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, for sure and so understanding that yeah, it is
in your neck right but in yourstomach and it plays a real
important part in gut function,even.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, digestion.
And just you know you think ofpeople who have anxiety.
So much of it is in the gutbecause so much of their lymph
is not moving or it's workingtoo hard.
And it's amazing, once you geta little lymph moving, people's
lives change.
I know mine changed back in theday when I first started on the
journey realizing what lymphwas.
Yeah, it was night and daydifference Just getting it to

(06:41):
move.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
I think another important thing yeah right,
anyone is.
You don't really hear anythingabout it until you have somebody
, like with congestive heartfailure, Right, right, and their
legs are so swollen and or youknow, somebody gets cancer and
all of a sudden we're talkingabout lymph nodes.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Mm-hmm, but where?
If we started from day one, youknow, especially on the
thermographies that we see, I'dsay 90% of the clients we see
have lymphatic issues.
It's actually rare to seesomeone who doesn't, but it's
everyone.
If you think it's not you, youprobably still have some cleanup
to do.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, for sure.
And considering too lymph playssuch an important role in fluid
balance.
Yeah, like people withcongestive heart failure, you
know, they get really badlymphedema in their feet and
their legs and they hurt.
It hurts.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
That's where people, also you, want to consider pain.
Lymphatic function and pain gohand in hand and you know it's
not always going to be the thingthat gets rid of all the pain,
that cures it.
You know there's probably sometrigger, but managing your
lymphatic function is going tohelp you manage your pain with a
lot less pain meds orsupplements.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, dr Perry Nicholston.
I mean, he's built his wholecareer and for those of you out
there who've never heard of him,stopchasingpaincom is his
website.
He didn't pay me to say that.
He didn't even know I exist.
Yeah, but he's a great websiteand we point people to him all
the time because he has greatdaily exercises for and his
exercises are easy.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Oh yeah, you know to all of our listeners and viewers
if you don't know his littlelymphatic routine, it's amazing,
it's so easy.
Just a great thing to add intoyour daily routine and start
moving that lymph, whether youknow that it's in trouble or not
.
Still, you know, start workingon it.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
So how do you tell somebody who doesn't have
swollen lymph nodes, how do theyknow if their lymph is working
properly?

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well, that's one of those things I don't think
people know.
Most of the time they can'ttell.
Some people are going to bevery aware when they have all
the swelling, but for a lot ofthe population it's not swelling
, it's going to be pain, it'sgoing to be fatigue or brain fog
.
So it's learning to listen toyour body and to just be aware

(09:11):
of that digression, if you will,so you can notice the patterns
that creep up on you and thenyou can get on top of it.
So really, whether people feelit or not, I tell all my clients
hey, if we haven't done athermography, you know where we
see it.
Otherwise I tell them, let'sjust act like it's not working
because you're here for you knowthis liver problems or skin

(09:32):
problems, you know what name itdigestion.
It's like your lymph is goingto play a part and a lot of
people walk around with afeeling of heaviness that they
just accept as normal.
I'm convinced most people haveno clue how good they could feel
.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
You know, I think that's true and I think if I had
to pick one thing that hurt ourlymph more than anything else,
I personally would say asedentary lifestyle, oh yeah.
But I think now, after havingbeen in a couple of like I'm
doing my clinicals for my nursepractitioner and you know we do

(10:08):
labs here and we see people withlow vitamin D levels, but it is
nothing like what I have seenin these medical clinics.
I think living sedentary livesinside is probably one of the
worst things we do for ourhealth and our lymph.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, because you're getting fresh air, you're
getting some healthy amounts ofsunshine.
When you're outside you'reusually not sitting down right,
right right, and I mean they saysitting is the new smoking, so
that right there is alreadydoing yourself in.
There you go, folks.
Yeah, take that, yeah.
But I think for people whomight be wondering, is lymph my

(10:48):
problem?
Just act like it is.
Act like it is from this pointon and you'll notice that you
start having a little moreenergy and we'll talk about you
know a little bit, sometechniques you can use.
But I think another telling signI'm going to go back to you
know, understanding if it'sworking or not.
A lot of the time when peoplego to do a detox, if you go to

(11:09):
do a detox and you aren'tfeeling better from that detox,
that is a great signal from yourbody that's saying hey, we
can't keep up with this trashyou're stacking up and I learned
that you know years ago thehard way trying to detox without
taking care of my lymph Ididn't know what I know now.
I didn't have thatunderstanding of that was as

(11:30):
important, if not more so, thanany detox.
I do because if your lymph isworking properly, your body
doesn't have to work as hard todetox, because it's true and
yeah, and when you're doing adetox, because we've seen people
do this all the time.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
They come in and like I want a detox.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I want to get up already Right.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
I want to get hard, make it hurt.
We can make it hurt, but that'snot actually going to help
usually.
But where does it hurt?
Right?
Because some people do a detoxand it's like, oh my gosh, my
guts are exploding, or they haveheadaches and so that's another
area of your lymphatic function, or they complain about swollen

(12:11):
ankles, or or you'll get arandom heart, or like a random
limb or arm.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
one side swells more than the other, and that's
always going to be lymph.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
It's all evidence of that beautiful, invisible
lymphatic system at work orhurting.
Yeah, yeah, okay, so I saidsedentary lifestyle inside,
right.
Yeah, I can't leave that partout, but what else would you add
to that list, alayna, as far asthings that hurt your lymph?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah Well, sedentary life, absolutely, and then
eating junk food or eating badfood.
And to clarify what bad food isanything that's processed and
is not a whole food, like meatand veggies or fruit and nuts.
You know, if you have to get itin the middle aisles of the
grocery store, it's probably notgoing to be good for your lymph
, not going to be at all.

(13:08):
That's a good point, and evenmedically.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Now they're starting to point out the.
It makes me laugh because it'sso far away from where we're at
Ultra processed foods are somuch worse than processed foods,
but they're right, right.
I mean, how do you get peopleto stop eating processed foods?
Some people just aren't goingto Right, but some of us have no

(13:33):
desire to eat processed foods.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
But you know, you look at Sharon, you and even
myself we've been on a longjourney that we've learned.
Hey, if I go eat at mostrestaurants, let alone going
through a drive-thru, I'm notgoing to feel good and my lymph
is probably going to back up.
We just, you know, we've hadthe opportunity to see this

(13:55):
personally and professionallyenough times and that takes time
, it takes habits, and we helppeople with that every day.
You know you got to startsomewhere to make good choices.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
You remember the time you had that girl come in and
she was so constipated all thetime she rolled off.
Did you got to tell a story?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, I mean, I know exactly who you're talking about
.
This gal had not had anunassisted bowel movement in I
don't know.
Seemed like forever, and shewas so constipated I've set the
bulbs on her and our lymphatictherapy uses frequencies to help
stimulate the lymph.
Within 10 minutes thingsstarted kind of gurgling and
moving and at 20 minutes she hadto roll off the bed and go to

(14:40):
the bathroom immediately.
And you know, not everyone'sgoing to get that instantaneous
result, but a lot of people do.
A lot of people will be like hey, I know we're like halfway
through the session, but I haveto go to the bathroom now.
And it could be through thebalsor, the kidneys, you know it
could be either one.
But you start moving.
Just a little of that junk isready to go.
And let me tell you I can tellwhen someone's had a salad or a

(15:04):
drive-thru burger before doing alymphatic session, because when
you're doing this therapy thebulbs stick to your skin where
you're congested, and I canoften be like so let's have a
time of confession.
You didn't eat what you weresupposed to eat today, did you?
Or yesterday, and it neverfails.
Or you talk about, hey, did youdrink water today?

(15:25):
And they'll say oh yeah, I hadsome Well explain what some is,
because I'm feeling none hereand just a little bit of water.
Suddenly things will startmoving again, because that's
another huge one.
I know that we both see thisall the time.
People are dehydrated.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Okay, rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yes, smart water, oh, okay Y'all.
I don't have a scientific studyto give you on smart water, but
let me tell you, as a lymphatictherapist, I have never had
someone's lymph Move.
Well, who drinks smart water?
You know it tastes decent forplastic bottled water.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
It's not just smart water, it's the alkaline waters.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Alkaline water and a lot of the waters that have
added enzymes, because you don'tknow what enzymes, electrolytes
y'all Enzymes.
Enzymes you might need some ofthose too, but electrolytes it's
usually the waters that arealkaline or have added
electrolytes.
As much as you need water andelectrolytes for your lymph to
move, these cheap, crappy thingsyou get in a plastic bottle

(16:31):
aren't the answer, because it'sjust unbelievable how often the
alkaline water is going to hityour gut lymph more than
anything, the bad electrolytesthat'll hit your entire body.
But then another thing thatplays in with that is like
Bluetooth and smartwatches,anything that emits EMFs.
That's a big one, it's ah.

(16:53):
I've been doing lymphatictherapy for over eight years now
and I've just learned okay,when you get a little spot
that's not moving, like up hereby the ears in the neck, that's
a big one.
You ask people hey, are youusing Bluetooth earbuds or like
a Bluetooth earpiece at work?
Even the hearing aids, yeah,and that one's hard, because you

(17:15):
can't hardly get away from that.
I think some of the hearingaids you can disable the
Bluetooth.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
We've even seen how it disrupts normal thermo
regulation on thermographieswhen people wear Bluetooth.
Yeah, and of course they haveto Right, and this is hard to
escape some of thesetechnologies.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
But that's where you have to do everything you can to
keep it moving, and some peopleare going to have to work
harder than others.
If you're someone who has towear the Bluetooth hearing aids,
okay, you're going to have towork harder, but if you're
someone who just wants aBluetooth earbud for convenience
, you're really hurting yourself.
The convenience isn't worth itin the end when you think of all

(17:53):
that stagnant toxicity rightthere 80% of it right here and
you're putting something on yourhead that says, hey, lymph,
don't worry about moving, youcan just camp out here, you can
just have squatters rights.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
And can we talk about what all that EMF does,
bouncing off of the metal inyour mouth?
Oh yeah, not even justlymphatically but health-wise.
Oh my gosh, I mean we've seen.
I mean years ago I had a guycome in he gave himself tongue
cancer between his gold crownsand his cell phone, and this was
before iPhones.

(18:28):
It's a thing I mean, it iscrazy.
And the problem is with regardto lymph, because we've seen,
like where people wear theirApple watch or their smart watch
and you run the lymph bulbsover where the watch is on the
wrist and it sticks like glue.
And that's how you know, by theway, viewers and listeners, how
the lymph isn't moving, becausethe bulbs will just almost

(18:51):
stick to the skin, like they'vebeen glued to them where they
should really glide over, andthat's a good indication of
lymphatic congestion.
And it's only people who wearthe smart watches.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
And I've had one or two people I mean maybe a few
more than that whose lymph movedand they wore all that
technology.
But those were the unicorns.
Those are rare.
Most people have a problem withthe Bluetooth in their
lymphatic system, and I wouldjust always err on the side of
caution and assume that you areone of those people who can't
handle it either.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Because, truly, we don't measure what that does to
the body.
There are no measurements forit.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
So we don't know, unless you're doing a
thermography sometimes.
And how about thosethermographies where we see all
the points in the head areblocked?
There's blocked regulation andthat's usually a dead giveaway.
But once again, we're usingthermography in a way that not
many people are familiar withand we're doing our part.
Go listen to our podcast onwhole body thermography.

(19:53):
But most people aren't gettingthat kind of testing done to see
it, and it's not going tomeasure the wrist, so that's not
going to show up.
We just we know at this pointit's always bad.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah, and I think thermography, you know, in the
lymphs, the lymph work.
It has definitely attuned oursenses to
electrohypersensitivity, whichwe need to spend a whole podcast
on.
But there are a lot of thingswhere our lymph is impacted and

(20:26):
sometimes it's very hard to knowhow people will understand oh,
this is, it's something from myenvironment, but they haven't
put together that it's anelectronic device or that it's a
the chair that they're sittingin or their sedentary lifestyle,
and it is one especially withmen in their inguinal lymphs.

(20:48):
So the lymph in your groin area.
In a thermography it'll show up, usually pretty bad long.
You know way back we didn't seethat.
Oh, you see an older men, butnow men in their twenties and
thirties we're seeing reallystagnant lymph.
And so my thing for everybodyout there is if you sit down at

(21:12):
your job, we sit at our job.
But we get up at the end ofevery appointment and I try to
walk my client all the way downthe hall.
If I don't do that, I do standup every hour and do some
walking, you know, to go get mynext client or whatever.
But it's so important to standup a part of every hour.

(21:33):
If you're not working withpeople.
That's harder to do if you'rein front of a computer.
I would just encourage you makemake a way to stand up.
If it's that you stand up forall your phone calls or you set
a timer, in 10 minutes of everyhour you start standing up.
But really I think it's a goodidea to understand that we were,

(21:54):
we were made to sit down.
I mean, look at some culturesdon't really do chairs like we
do.
They squat.
It's a more ergonomicallyappropriate position.
But is it Dr Merkola who said Ithink he sits down two hours a
day and that's?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
it.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
That's crazy, because I know, when I've been on my
feet for 12 hours working, I'mlike, oh my God, I'm so tired, I
just want to chair.
But we really are made to moveand when we don't move, you know
, if you don't use it, you loseit.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, and a great trick too for making sure that
you're moving all the time isyou should be drinking a lot of
water anyways, but if you aredrinking water all day long,
you're going to have to pee, andwhen you pee you got to get up,
you got to walk.
Sometimes you know the restroommight be a little further or
closer, it doesn't matter, butyou're moving.
So that's a great way to movewithout even thinking about it.

(22:50):
Maybe you have to set areminder to drink your water.
That's a whole other topic,whole other habit to develop,
but that's the best place tostart.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Okay, that's a good point too.
Another thing is you know, forpeople who go oh well, if
walking is good for my lymph,then surely running is better.
Is that true or false?

Speaker 2 (23:09):
That is false.
Why?
Because I mean running is goingto help, but you know it's
going to help, but you need ashort, sharp friction for it.
And running you can get thatsometimes, but it's not going to
be the same as the gentlewalking or rebounding and speed
rope jumping those are the bestbecause it's creating that

(23:30):
little vibration.
Less is more with lymph.
You know, if you go get a deeptissue massage it's going to hit
some of the lymph but it's notgoing to really target it.
Because if anyone out there'sever had a lymphatic massage,
you know that it feels likethey're doing nothing.
I remember the first lymphaticmassage I had.
I was so angry because Ithought they just ripped it off,

(23:54):
they cheated.
Yeah, they didn't do any work.
And then within a couple hoursmy nose started running and I
don't think I drank enough waterthat day.
This was years ago.
I know way better now.
I started feeling like I hadthe flu by the end of the day
because it was that gentle lighttouch therapy.
So whether it's getting alymphatic therapy or doing work

(24:15):
at home, less is more.
That doesn't mean you take twoseconds to dry skin brush.
You should take several minutesat least.
But running is going to help,but it's not going to be the
same as the gentler easiermovements.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, so you've talked about some of the things
that help your live work better,right, and we've talked briefly
, but let's go a little moreinto it, and I want you to do
this because you're the residentexpert the different types of
lymphatic therapy, besidesmanual.
Which manual?
A lot of people love it andwe're all for it, but if

(24:58):
somebody's not expecting it,they're sure gonna go in and go.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I got cheated, yeah yeah, and that's what I'm saying
for Huge fan of that, and thatI think more people have access
to manual lymphatic massage withthe, you know, train massage
therapist.
But then there's othertherapies, such as the ones we
offer here, that use somemachines that help stimulate the
frequencies.
And you know there are goodfrequencies and bad frequencies.

(25:22):
When we talk about EMFs, thoseare bad frequencies.
They actually lower your body'sfrequency.
But when you're usingtherapeutic frequencies such as
the ones we're using in ourlymphatic therapies, it's
stimulating and, you know,energizing that natural function
of your lymphatic health.
And you know we've got a fewdifferent things.

(25:43):
We have Rife Technology, whichis frequency therapy.
It's just using the principlethat, hey, certain frequencies
can drive in healing to the body.
There are other frequenciesthat can, you know, help just
create vibrations to pathogens.
But when you're using the RifeTechnology, there's several
different programs we use thereand I think that's a whole other
podcast topic as well.

(26:04):
To truly get into the nittygritty of Rife On the to-do list
, yes, but with our Lymph Startherapy this is a system where
we're using two bulbs that havefrequencies.
They're actually based on RifeTechnology and we use these
frequencies along the mainlymphatic areas and there are
some areas where we'll do alittle sweeping to encourage

(26:26):
that flow in the lymphaticsystem and it's a really
relaxing therapy.
Most people fall asleep and it'sjust a very gentle light
therapy.
And then there's the flowpresso.
For people who like it a littlemore aggressive, it's like a
hug machine, a squeeze machinethat uses sequential compression

(26:46):
with some infrared heat, andthen there's a little microchip
that goes at the base of yourneck and it just sends a little
signal.
You don't even feel it ornotice it, but it's just
stimulating that lymphatic flow.
And it really comes down tocost and preference, which type
of therapy you like to do.
With the ones such as Lymph Starand Flow Presso.

(27:08):
The great thing about them isthey're equivalent to about
seven manual lymphatic therapies, and if you had seven manual
lymphatic massages in a rowyou'd be sick as a dog, Because
as you're stirring all that up,your body has to clear it out,
Whereas with these therapies,using the frequencies, we're
helping to break it up and alsowe're facilitating the exit.

(27:31):
We're helping to speed up thatprocess of clearing it out of
your body.
So then the body can take a lotmore, and for people who are
dealing with major lymphaticissues.
It could take a long time doingmanual therapy but, once again,
if that's what you have accessto now, it's great.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
And whatever therapy you're using, you need to back
it up with doing lymphaticexercises at home, whether
you're rebound, knee ropejumping, standing on a vibration
platform, dry skin brushing,you know one thing I think we
overlooked.
I think we should kind of hitor did you talk about the order
of flow, how it's a one-waysystem and you started the?

Speaker 2 (28:14):
extremities.
No, we didn't See, that's oneof those things yet again.
It's just it becomes secondnature once you start practicing
and applying it.
But that's a really good point,because you wanna make sure
that you're encouraging thelymph to go out the right way,
and that is everything towardsyour heart.
When you're dry skin brushing,you want everything to move

(28:36):
towards your heart, so then yourbody can take it through.
You have the thoracic duct uphere and it takes it out through
the kidneys and the liver.
If you're going the oppositeway, you could really back
yourself up, and so, even withthe stomach, you know you either
brush up or you do clockwisecircles.
You don't wanna gocounterclockwise.
That's a great way to getconstipated.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Right.
Well, in your lymphatic fluid,I mean that's, your lymph nodes
are in those vessels cleaning itall up.
So, yeah, you're gonnaeliminate some of it through
your kidneys, through your guts,but a lot of that gets
recirculated.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
And if it doesn't get out, what do you want?

Speaker 1 (29:19):
recirculating in your blood, cause that's where it
goes.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
You don't wanna go right back into your blood, and
that's where you know sweatingis beneficial as well.
People who don't ever sweattypically have very blocked
lymphatic systems, and so that'sa big thing I like to get
people doing as well.
And infrared sauna is the bestbecause that's going to heat you
from the inside out and get adeeper sweat and a faster sweat.

(29:44):
And there's people who it couldtake months for them to start
sweating, but oftentimes we liketo recommend do a lymphatic
session and then get in thesauna, because that's gonna help
your body need to sweat sooner,because not sweating is not
it's not a privilege peoplethink it is.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Not before you.
That's true and it'sinteresting.
I know you've told me before.
Elena's brutally honest with meat times.
Sometimes I wish you would justlie to me and make me feel
better.
But she doesn't.
And Katie, same thing.
They would do a lymph on me andthey go oh my gosh, you smell
like a garbage.

(30:25):
I think, well, what is thatabout?
But I think cause I wasn'teating garbage food.
But you look at the places yougo and the things that you do
and, just like with our swimmers, we can smell them off, gassing
chlorine, people who've hadchemotherapy really at any point

(30:46):
in their life, even decadesbefore we can't stay in the room
.
You gotta set the bulbs wherethey go.
But then you gotta get out andthink about when they put those
chemotherapy drugs in.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
I mean, nobody touched that stuff you know,
yeah, most people, even ifthey've come through cancer and
that's great, I always lovehearing that but so many people
still never did anything abouttheir lymph and I feel like
that's a big reason, One of thebig players why oftentimes
people's cancer comes back,because you didn't deal with

(31:23):
that deep toxicity to begin with.
And so when people come andthey're either wanting to work
on that and preventing it orit's like, hey, I just wanna get
healthy, and then you realize,oh, you've done chemo, and
sometimes they forget to tell usthat cause it's been so long
ago.
And I start doing that lymphand I instantly just can smell a
sick odor and it's not.

(31:43):
They don't smell it and it'snot affecting them because it's
already in their pores and it'scoming out of them.
But as a therapist, you'vegotta be careful.
The body is letting go of somenasty stuff and that's great.
People get self-conscious andyes, Sharon, I'm more brutally
honest with you.
If you come here and you're myclient, I'm gonna be a lot nicer
.
But this is really sharing.
Yeah, it's really nice people.

(32:03):
Well, even it's interesting,you know.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, I remember doing lymph on one of my
colleagues before and he hadcomplained cause his hands broke
out Kind of a factor.
And he was touching so manypeople, you know, through their
clothes, and when I was doinglymph on him I was like it
smells like a fragrance orsomething.

(32:30):
It's something fragrance andwe're very unfragrance, like we
have a rule you can't come inwearing perfume or fragrances,
and because we have people whoare real sensitive here.
But I asked him about it causehe was like I thought he knew
better than this and he's likeSharon, my hands hurt so bad.
He's like I touched so manypeople and everybody has dryer

(32:51):
sheets that they it's dryersheets, fabric softener and
scented laundry detergent andall that has to get filtered out
through your lymph too, and Ithink that it's just a good
reminder.
It's hard to fathom, I guess,unless you've been there and
experienced it, but I think thenumber one toxic chemical in the
house isn't it a dryer sheet?

(33:11):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mean it's because it'stotally the scent.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
It's not only the scent in it but also the
chemicals that take to makethose little things that can dry
and put off a scent but notburn up.
Yeah, yeah, get rid of themtoday, get rid of them yesterday
, those that were using those.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, and your scented laundry detergents.
I think it numbs your sensestoo, because people don't even
smell it.
And then for somebody-.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, well, somebody who's notused to fragrances and perfumes,
it's hard to take, it's veryoverpowering.

(33:51):
Bam, Okay, so fragrances.
Let's say I just learned allthis information, I'm going to
go home, I'm going to start drybrushing, I'm going to throw out
my scented laundry detergentand all my dryer sheets and I'm
going to get a lymph therapyappointment.
How long will it take for me tofeel a difference?

Speaker 2 (34:15):
I think most people feel a difference right away,
like they really do, and it justdepends on the person as they
run to the bathroom.
Yes, can I say you're welcome,but it depends on the person.
Some people can get one sessionand feel like a million bucks.
More times than not, though,especially if it's your first
session, people are going tofeel very sleepy and fatigued.

(34:38):
You feel good, you feel light,but just so relaxed that you're
tired.
The rest of the day you canfunction, but you usually can't
wait to go home and get a goodnight's sleep.
And then it's the next morning.
You wake up feeling like amillion bucks Because your body
has had time to finishprocessing all that out.
And if you've drank enoughwater because if you don't drink
water, even after a lymph startor a flow pressor, you will

(35:02):
feel ill by the end of the daybut do your session, go drink
your water, go get a goodnight's sleep, and people feel
better.
And I think with the flowpressor, that one is kind of
more telling for people who haveany kind of lymphedema, because
you can see, you can see theswelling go down after one
session.
Now how long it's going to staylike that, it really depends.

(35:23):
It depends on, okay, do youjust need help getting this jump
started and then you can takeit from here doing all of your
homework at home, which is thedry skin brushing and vibration
platform and speed growth.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
And it's super important.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
You have to do your homework, always have to do your
homework.
Some people can do that onesession and be great.
Other people I mean I've hadsome people who come weekly for
a couple months and the usual iscome once a week for about four
weeks in a row.
That's enough to really get itgoing, and then you can start
reducing from there.
Do one every couple of weeksand then get to where you do it

(35:57):
once a quarter, and really foreveryone, even the healthiest
people, I always recommend getone lymphatic session a quarter
or when the seasons change, andif you need more than that, come
in for that.
But at least hold yourself to.
I'm gonna do this four times ayear.
It's not that much.
Everyone needs more than that,but that is the very least,
because that's gonna help youstay ahead of seasonal changes

(36:19):
that can affect your health andimmune system, and especially as
we're going into flu season,it's really important to stay
ahead of that.
Keep your lymph moving.
So then, when you're exposed tothe different things that
you're undoubtedly going to beexposed to just going about your
day, your body's defenses areready to handle it.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, yeah for sure.
So what are some things?
Or if lymph could start feelingbetter tomorrow or I could
start functioning better fromlymphatic therapy, I think it's
also important to give those toyou.
But if you've got, likeEpstein-Var, viral issues that

(37:05):
could Myoclinic exposure, yeah,that could kind of hang things
up a little bit.
So I think it's important tohave a practitioner working with
you that has an understandingof your underlying issues, right
.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Right, because that's where we do the therapy.
But once again, the therapy'snot going to fix everything
Right.
It usually comes alongsidedoing a specific detox protocol
or taking lymphatic herbs ortinctures or homeopathics.
That's a big one, that's suchan easy big one taking a
homeopathic to help it move.
You know, it's not just onething.

(37:40):
You can't eat one healthy thingand just be healthy, just like
you can't do one good thing foryour lymph or your filters and
think everything else is gonnatake care of itself.
It'll be better, but it's notgonna be all better For sure.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
And some of our favorite lymph cleansing
products we use from Cellcore.
We use Physica Energetics, boththeir homeopathics and their
herbal tinctures.
There's so many things outthere, but I think too, for
people to understand, if you'resupporting your immune system,
you're generally supporting yourlymphatic system too, and the

(38:21):
opposite holds true.
So when you support one, you'resupporting the other.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
And really I'd say the same goes for the liver as
well.
The more you take care of yourliver, the less your liver I
mean the less your lymph has tocleanse, because one of your
main filters is working better.
They go hand in hand.
I mean, how often is it I'vegot people doing the lymphatic
part and castor packing orcoffee enemas or something to

(38:46):
help it.
Like if I'm working on someoneweekly in lymphatic therapy and
things aren't clearing up, say,hey, go castor pack for the next
couple of days and then comeback.
Or I want you to do one or twocoffee enemas before the next
time I see you.
And it's pretty amazing that itworks just about every time and
you still have to deal witheverything else.

(39:07):
But you just give that a littleboost right there you take.
Maybe we put you on a liverhomeopathic.
There's so many other partsthere that play with the
lymphatic system.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
And what are your parting wordsof wisdom?

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Don't wait till your lymph is a problem.
Start taking care of it today.
And if you don't know what thatmeans for you, even after
listening to this because you'reyou know, maybe you're
overwhelmed or you don't knowwhere to start we're here.
We will see you in person orvirtually, and we can help you
know where are the biggest areasof concern for you.
Is it gonna be more EMFs?

(39:48):
Is it more mycotoxins or heavymetals?
Is it your digestion?
We can help.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, absolutely, I think having.
I remember when I first startedmessing around with lymph, I
was hard pressed to get goodinformation, and now I feel like
people are more aware but thereare gonna be a lot of people
out there.
Oh, I had no idea, I didn'tknow it was so important.
So just know that, whether ornot you come in to see us, there

(40:16):
are things you can do at homefor your lymph, and a lot of
them we've talked about.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
but movement is so central to thriving not just
surviving but thriving and Ithink the simplest, though too
real quick, is with everythingwe've talked about.
The simplest thing is dry skinbrushing.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I agree it is simple.
You know they use it for kidswho have sensory processing
issues because that's a lymphissue so much pain that we feel
can be attributed to lymphaticcongestion.
And our lymph is reallyimportant.
It's under-emphasized and Ithink too we're kind of like our

(41:00):
gallbladders in extra organ.
We get told a lot of our lymphparts are extra organs and that
is not true.
It's a little bit alarming.
I guess I realize there arereasons, but when you miss a
lymph node, when you have lymphnodes cut out, then you've got

(41:22):
to have other parts compensate.
When you have a spleen taken out, you know that you're gonna
have a hard time managing yourblood and so it's important to
take really good care of ourlymphatic system.
Preventive maintenance, kind ofchanging the oil in your car.
You do the things you'resupposed to do so you don't have

(41:45):
to make hard decisions later on.
And I think that if we juststart to think of our lymphatic
system, kind of like we thinkabout getting our teeth cleaned
at the dentist, we probably allbe a lot healthier, especially
this time of year with coldseason, flu season, all the
upper respiratory, and you canget on YouTube and you can find
all kinds of dry skin brushingtechniques and methods and some

(42:09):
people make it real mystical.
They make it real rocketscience-y.
But it's none of those thingsdoesn't have to be.
It can be very simple, verycrude.
Anyone can do it.
My grandchildren do it.
It's so cute, anyone can do it.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, absolutely, you know.
A final thing I wanna add isyou know so many people are
familiar with strep throat andhaving problems with tonsils and
adenoids.
They're part of your lymphaticsystem and I think if people
understood that and understoodthat, that is your lymphatic and
immune system saying hey, hey,hey, pay attention, hey, it's us

(42:45):
.
You can prevent a lot oftonsillectomies, you can prevent
a lot of chronic strep, youknow.
So I just I forget that peopledon't always make that
connection either, and I wouldlove for people to know that,
because I got my tonsils outyears before I knew any better,
and just doing a daily routineof dry skin brushing can prevent

(43:05):
so much of that kind of loss.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely Well, Alayna, I think
we found the perfect place toend this episode.
Yes, so we truly hope that youhave found our information
helpful and we'd love to hearfrom you.
If you watched this episode onYouTube or Rumble, please like,
subscribe, follow our channeland also you can check us out on

(43:31):
Facebook and Instagram.
And for more information aboutlymphatic therapy, please visit
k6wellnesscom.
You can schedule an appointmentwith us if you're in the North
Texas area.
Otherwise, you're welcome tofly from anywhere, because we're
the only people on Earth who dolymphatic therapy.
Obviously, Right, Until nexttime, take care of yourself,

(43:53):
because your health is worthfighting for.
Go Avery, go flimsy.
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