October 17, 2024 • 53 mins
Can embracing a holistic approach to breast health empower you beyond the confines of conventional cancer awareness? Join us as we share eye-opening insights into breast health, from the benefits of thermography to unraveling the myths tied to disease-centric perspectives. This isn't just about breast cancer statistics; it's about understanding how true breast health awareness can reflect your overall well-being and inspire preventative measures. We tackle the prevalent focus on fundraising giants like the Susan G. Komen Foundation and propose a shift towards education and understanding.
We engage in a candid conversation about the impact of breast implants, advocating for alternative health approaches such as naturopathy and thermography. We explore the potential complications of implants, offering insights into why many women prefer thermography over mammograms. Our discussion goes beyond breasts to address environmental toxins—like plastics—that affect hormonal health, emphasizing a holistic view and the importance of respecting individual health journeys. Explore the transformative effects of choosing healthier lifestyle options that promote both breast health and overall wellness.
Our episode isn't just an analysis; it's a call to action. Discover why your choice in bras matters, how self-breast exams can be pivotal, and the empowering act of embracing your natural body. Walk away with practical advice on reducing plastic use, avoiding synthetic fragrances, and enhancing your workouts by letting go of constraining bras. Together, we aim to shift the narrative from disease to health, encouraging you to take charge of your breast health and, ultimately, your life.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the K6 Wellness Revolution podcast.
My name is Sharon, owner of K6Wellness Center in Dallas, texas
.
I'm going to be your hosttonight with Elena, and we're
going to talk again about healthand wellness.
But today because here it isOctober and it is Breast Health
Awareness Month all over theworld you see pink everywhere
(00:25):
and Elena and I are going totake a deep dive into breast
health and we're going to talkspecifically about how whole
body thermography can be a realvital tool for your breast
health and overall health.
In fact, if you remember likeour very first podcast episode
was just about whole bodythermography and it was one of
(00:45):
our most popular, if not themost popular, services that we
have here at K6 Wellness.
And since we're, you know breasthealth awareness well, I feel
like it's more breast cancerawareness than it's never about
health.
It's just about let's name adisease, since that's what this
(01:06):
month is.
We want to really go a littlefurther and I feel like when we
just think of breasts as theyassociate to either cancer okay,
so disease or something verysexual, and then no woman is
satisfied with what she hasbecause of whatever pop culture,
(01:30):
social media, then we becomedeluded.
We get off track with whathealth really is.
And one of the things I'll justsay before we get started it is
a bee in my bonnet is the SusanG Komen Foundation and the
whole idea that they are thesavior of the world with regard
(01:51):
to breast health.
And they're not.
They're a fundraisingorganization.
We've looked it up multiplesources, including USA Today,
wasn't it Snopes?
I think Snopes even said it.
Not that I rely on Snopes foreverything, but they only give
20% of the funds raised tobreast cancer research.
(02:12):
And all of that, I promise you,goes to big pharma.
It's all big medicine I don'tthink anybody's putting money
into.
Hey, what diet is best forpreventing breast cancer?
Or maybe do plastics play arole?
(02:32):
Or take your pick of lifestyleissues and breast health
concerns that we could pour alot more resources than zero
into and still not hit what bigpharma takes on these cancer
drugs and immunotherapy drugs,and I think that women would be
(02:52):
a lot better off and they'd havehealthier breasts.
So there's my little soapbox.
Not a fan of the pink.
That's why we're wearing maroonIn protest.
In protest, not really justworked out that way, but it it
is.
I just it it bugs me and um, so, whatever, over today we're
(03:17):
going to share thoughts, we'regoing to talk about how to
actually create breast health,what, what should be involved
with healthy breasts anddeveloping healthy breasts,
recovering healthy breasts.
Should you get a mammogram?
How necessary are screenings?
Because there's all kinds ofscreenings, and we want to talk
(03:37):
about how thermography comparesto some of these other
screenings and so, yeah, let'skind of get started or let's
just continue stepping on toesright now.
So go, elena, yeah way to go,sharon.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Let's just get right to it, All the things that
irritate us, because what reallyirritates me you really
actually already you touched onit it's this focus that we're
saying.
It's Breast Health AwarenessMonth and truly to all of our
listeners, that is what K6Wellness considers October.
This is breast health awareness.
This is not breast diseasecures and fundraisers.
(04:15):
It's just irritating that allthese different diseases get
this attention with the fixationon the disease itself and
there's not conversation in thetraditional medical realm about
the cause.
People don't just wake up andhave cancer one day, whether
it's breasts or prostate or youname it right.
(04:36):
There's all kinds of cancers.
But what's important toremember is that your breasts,
for women, are actually abarometer for your overall
toxicity and health.
For men we say it's theprostate, for women it's breasts
.
So if we were able to justthink about breasts as really a
warning sign for health.
(04:57):
And that's what we look forwhen we do the thermographies,
which is our favorite ifanyone's listened to us at all,
I think we mentionedthermography a lot because it is
such a great whole bodyscreening.
So, sharon, tell us yourfavorite thing about using
thermographies for breast health.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Well and I'm going to extend beyond breast cancer,
because that's only one smallaspect.
We see a lot more of otherthings.
But I love thermography becauseI think that the way that the
breasts show up on thermography,it's not that we've just.
First of all, we're not imagingthe breasts right.
(05:35):
We are measuring temperaturesand I can't remember is it 15
temperatures on each breast?
I have to think about it in myhead, thank you.
But for women who have densebreast tissue, fibrocystic
breasts, for women who havescars on their breasts, women
(05:58):
who have a history of mastitis,women who have had reduction
surgery, women who have implants, women who've had explants,
there is so much to be gained bymeasuring breast health using
thermography.
(06:18):
So we can see what's going onin the breast very early, from
hey, there may be someinflammation here, to you've got
some scarring and probably someadhesions in there.
And usually women, when theyhave that, they've got some pain
right.
(06:39):
And what do we do?
Or women have a growth, or theythink there may be something.
And what's the first thing wedo?
You go for a mammogram.
And what do they do?
Well, let's just squish yourbreast between two plates and
we're going to take this pictureand I am telling you that if we
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measured men's testicles ortesticular health that way, you
know that would last.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That would be a protest that would be a real
protest.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
No, they go straight to ultrasound or you know they
do something else.
And but with women it's like,but it's just, and even look
this up, just like in doingresearch you go in and it's like
, yeah, it doesn't feel good,but it doesn't last very long.
Well, okay, getting stabbedprobably feels the same way too,
and there are.
(07:32):
There's the idea.
There was a lot of conversationyears ago about how mammograms
actually created more problemsthan they solved, and I think
the politics around it aredisgusting and I don't mean
politics like red versus blue,I'm just saying big medicine,
(07:53):
because we've really changed alot of things.
But all that's okay.
I'll get back to thermography.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
But just to point out too and I think people who've
listened to us know this but foranyone who doesn't know, you
know, at thermography we'retaking thermal temperatures.
There's no radiation, becausein a mammogram you're smashing
the tissue and radiating it.
Not only is it uncomfortable,it's not safe.
Radiation is not safe and youknow.
(08:21):
They're recommending more andmore 3D mammograms versus the 2D
, and the 3D is two and threetimes the amount of radiation.
So women walk away getting twoand three times the normal
amount of radiation than theygot in the first place with
repeated mammograms.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And there's no.
As far as I've ever seen, withthe thousands of women that
we've had come through withimplants, there's not a lot of
doctors who will say, yeah,you've got implants.
Far as I've ever seen, with thethousands of women that we've
had come through with implants,there's not a lot of doctors who
will say, yeah, you've gotimplants.
You should probably not squishthose between two plates.
But it makes sense.
I mean and I have seen reportslikely rupture yeah, you take a
(09:01):
baggie full of water or silicone, you squish it, you stand a
good chance of creating aproblem there.
And there has been a totalshirking of responsibility.
There has not been this ideathat, hey, let's do something
different for these breasts thathave the silicone implants and
(09:21):
I say silicone implants.
I don't care what's inside thesilicone bag, it's all in a
silicone bag.
I think these women needoptions and they need better
information and better education.
So yeah.
And that's why thermographywe're not squishing the breast,
we're applying an infraredthermometer or a sensor to the
(09:46):
breast.
It's kind of like, you know,when you go to the doctor or you
have the forehead temperaturethings and ours is way more
accurate, but we're basicallytouching the body in different
places and just takingtemperatures no pain, no trauma
to the tissue, nothing.
And it's so accurate and we'reable to see.
(10:06):
Oh wow, you know where we'relooking for uniformity.
We're looking for symmetry sideto side.
No matter how big one breast isversus the other, or whether
you've had a double mastectomy,there should still be a certain
amount of cooling,thermoregulation, and when
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that's not there, then it's upto us to look at it and
determine why.
But then also, I lovethermography for breast health
because we never stop at thebreasts With a mammogram.
Okay, you've got a picture ofyour breasts and it hurt and it
may tell you something, and itmay not, and it may lead you to
(10:48):
a needless procedure.
That is going to be a needlebiopsy that comes back, fine,
but oh, by the way, we're goingto leave a little metal clip in
there.
So we know we've done thisbefore.
I don't like that Withthermography.
If we think there's a problemin the breast.
We can go look at the teeth,because there are five teeth on
each side of the mouth thatcorrespond with each breast.
(11:11):
We can look at the stomach.
We can look at the pancreas, wecan look at the lymphatic
system.
There are a lot of otherindicators of hey, you've got a
problem here.
It's not just the breast,because we recognize the whole
body works together.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, and that's where we start with the whole
body picture, Because I know inall the years I've been doing
this, there's a handful of womenwho we look at their breast
thermography, the whole bodythermography, and then we say,
hey, we need some additionalinformation.
And our first recommendation isalways let's get an ultrasound,
because that's going to be a lotsafer than getting the
(11:50):
radiation of a mammogram.
And then I think in 10 yearsbetween you and me, like we've
told two women okay, after anultrasound, okay, now you
probably need to go get amammogram because we exhausted
everything else.
We've done all these things.
We need to check the box there.
But that is such a rare thingbecause we get enough
information in the thermography.
When you're evaluating thedifferent organs, like you
(12:12):
mentioned the stomach, thepancreas and the lymph you
always have to look at that,because if there's a blocked
spot in the breast and all thelymph is blocked, that's a
pretty easy puzzle to figure out.
But mammograms are somethingthat should be very
conservatively recommended,versus just every year, every
(12:36):
other year, All right.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, I think that's a good point.
I mean, it's not thatmammograms don't have their
place, but as a first-linescreening tool it kind of sucks.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Right, it's only going to pick up something
that's already been there,whereas with thermography,
especially with an annualthermography, where we can track
the patterns of thosetemperatures and see, okay, well
, you started from here where itwas not good at all.
Now you're here where it's notgreat but it's getting better.
And then the next year you see,okay, that's really good now,
(13:06):
but mammograms are only going togive you bad news, you know
once it's there.
Agreed and I think, yeah, sothat's like whole cancer part,
but then there's the wholeimplant part, and I mean you
perform more thermographies thanI do, um yeah, well, and and
(13:30):
the thing is just because awoman has implants you know this
is to our, our listeners orviewers who maybe you do have
implants doesn't mean you'regoing to get a bad thermography
right.
We've seen some where thebreast points actually regulated
fine.
I, I mean, you're one of thosepeople that you aren't reacting
to that silicone, but that isnot the common population we see
(13:52):
.
Oftentimes we see dysregulatingpoints, whether it's from
reactions to the silicone orscarring from the actual
procedure itself, and so we haveto take that into consideration
when we're looking at thebreast health, because you don't
want to just look at thereadings and say, oh, it's bad.
Everyone thinks cancer is theonly thing that could be bad or
could be wrong.
(14:12):
You can have autoimmune, youcould have reactions to the
implants or you could just haveautoimmune in general without
implants and your body can'tregulate those temperatures
properly because, remember, it'sa barometer of your overall
toxicity.
But the implants are a big one,we see, because there's a lot
of illness that goes with breastimplants, which I think we've
(14:34):
touched on in previousconversations and you know we
can talk more about that later.
But it's very important to stayon top of your breast health.
And when you've got thoseimplants, let's talk
thermography, because it's goingto be a much more comfortable
experience.
It's going to track youroverall health with that.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, for sure, and I think you know especially it's
funny because when I studiedthis and I went to Switzerland
and I was showing a few thingsthat I you know a few cases and
they were asking about you know,like, well, what do you do,
what do you see?
And and when I was telling wedo a lot of you know, we see a
(15:16):
lot of breast implants and andbreast implant illness and
they're like oh, do you work oncelebrities and movie stars?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
No, Just Dallas, texas, it's just.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Dallas and they didn't get it.
They didn't understand, butthey don't experience the level
of cosmetic procedures inGermany and Switzerland that we
do or not.
People who are going to getthermographies anyway and I
think I'm grateful here that somany women who do have the
(15:53):
cosmetic procedures done stillcome and get thermographies and
I think a lot of these women dofind thermography because the
thought of squishing theirbreast implants in a mammogram
just doesn't appeal and itdoesn't.
It's not common sense, right?
And so they're.
They're out there looking forother things.
And it's not that we saythermography replaces
(16:16):
mammography.
It's different.
We're not imaging takingtemperatures, we're not imaging.
And, yeah, we just come at itfrom a different angle.
But that's the beauty ofnaturopathic care.
You know, we're doing somethingtotally different.
And I think implants I have tosay that's one of the bigger
(16:39):
things, that it's a challenge.
I think I feel like it's.
It's a huge challenge, almostbigger than cancer for a lot of
women because, like you said,scars and and if you think about
the fascia and you have all ofyour tissue cut through to put a
bag, to put a insert, a bag,whether you put it behind the
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muscle or or wherever, you'regoing to have some serious
healing issues and you may havemobility problems, you could
have keloiding, which is wherethe scar gets real hard and
extends beyond the incision line, and then, yeah, ultimately
there's the whole idea thatyou've put a foreign object into
(17:27):
the body and the immune systemcould eventually recognize that
and go, yeah, that doesn't gothere, we're going to start the
inflammatory process, we'regoing to start marking this, and
then women come in with, I mean, all manner of symptoms, right,
and we see them with fatigueand headaches and food
(17:52):
sensitivities and thyroidproblems.
Yeah, not just foodsensitivities, right?
Sometimes it's like all of asudden I'm reacting to
everything and that's an immunesystem gone haywire, and I think
thermography is really good atpointing that out.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Well, and it helps a person know where to start with
their health.
Women come in for the breastscreening and we never just do
the breast.
People will ask for that and wedon't.
We look at the whole body Onceagain.
You've got to get the wholepicture and I think a lot of the
time women who are new to thisexperience they don't even know
what they just signed up for andwhat they asked for.
(18:32):
Because you're going to get somuch good information it can be
a little overwhelming, butthat's where we break it down.
You can get so much goodinformation that's going to
impact every area of your life.
So, whether you knew you hadthyroid problems or that's
showing up on a thermography andthen we investigate through
blood work and see, yeah, youreally do have a thyroid problem
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and that's not always justgoing to be implants.
I know we're talking aboutimplants in this moment here,
but there's so many otherailments that can reflect
through the breast tissue.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, for sure.
Lymph issues Excuse me.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Well, bless you.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Thank you.
Texas in August.
I mean October, it's not Augustanymore.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, explants bring their own problem and sometimes
even, you know, x-plants are agreat solution for a lot of
women.
But with X-plants we then havescarring issues.
And how was the X-plant done?
Did they remove the wholecapsule?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And are there mold issues or infection issues,
hidden infections there's a lotand additional scarring, you
know, additional scarring fromremoving those, and that's where
you can really get the workdone, because you're trying to
heal the inside out, wherethere's no longer a foreign
object.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, and I think, ultimately, more often than not,
I think we've had, you know,less than five cases where the
explant did not um help withinsix months with overall health
and I think there wereextenuating circumstances in
most of those cases.
But um, I think that overall,the explant process, there are
(20:21):
some great explant breastsurgeons, um surgeons all over
the country that do it well,they do it right and that's kind
of their niche.
But I think one of the otherthings that we do see benefit
because I mean obviously, likeimplants, I never advise anybody
(20:41):
to get breast implants, I think, but I don't judge people for
getting implants because there'sa lot of emotional energy that
goes into it.
Whether you get breast implantsbecause you had a mastectomy or
because your husband wants youto have bigger breasts or
whatever.
We're not going to judge.
(21:01):
We're going to meet peoplewhere they're at and try to help
them find their best healththrough whatever path they're on
.
But explants, I think overall,do usually improve people's
health dramatically.
And I think breast reductionsurgeries, that's another one.
You know we see women who'vegone through the reduction
surgeries and I, you know Idon't want to be on the
(21:26):
operating table but I have tosay I've seen it help so many
women who had back and shoulderproblems and I just wonder like
would they?
Would they naturally havebreasts that were so big and
burdensome, apart from ourenvironment?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
and the toxins, the things that you're being exposed
to, um cause that.
That brings up a good pointjust about the toxic exposures
that we're seeing more and moreof, and it is going to always
impact that breast health everysingle time.
Um, you know you might not beprone to cancers, right,
remember, it's not always aboutcancer it's.
It's about just dysregulationto begin with and disease
(22:11):
patterns.
But plastics Tell me, sharon,how many women do you see who
have when you do those toxintests or what other kind of
testing you're doing?
But how many women have somekind of plastic exposures?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, Well, even men, I mean affecting their ability
to produce or to keep hightestosterone levels or good
testosterone levels.
Plastics really interrupthealthy estrogen production and
metabolism, because plastics,many plastics or plasticizers, I
(22:49):
guess is another word right, orplasticizers, I guess is
another word right theyinterfere, they take up these
receptor sites in our body whereestrogen is supposed to go.
Well, now you've got a plasticmolecule that looks like
estrogen in a place whereestrogen belongs, but that
plastic doesn't know what to do.
It just happened to fit thereceptor site.
(23:12):
It's not going to behave likeestrogen would, and that's where
we get all these healthproblems right.
Um, it can.
It can lead to, um, one mangynecomastia.
We can have low sperm counts inwomen, we can have, um, all
manner of reproductive problems,and I think within the breast
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realm especially, like in thearmpit area, we see a lot of
problems and I think some of itcomes to our bras.
Can we just talk about bras fora minute, since this is breast
health Right.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
We need to honestly start there.
We should have started therebecause we live in a society
where every woman thinks it'sgot to be tight and tightened up
All the fits of the bras.
The tighter the better.
It's going to make you lookmore voluptuous or feel more
secure.
But honestly, the tighter thebra, the worse for your breast
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health, because you're cuttingoff the lymphatic flow.
You're cutting off just theflow of your body and your
breasts are fatty tissue.
Toxins love fatty tissue.
So especially if you have awire in your bra and you're
putting that bra right by one ofthe largest lymph nodes under
your underarms and you'rekeeping it tight so nothing can
move, you're just inviting thetoxins to come settle in and
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make a home in your breasts.
And I know my mom always saiddon't wear wire bras.
Don't wear wire bras.
I'm just like whatever mom youknow, like we all do when we're
young.
We don't think mom knows bestand she really does A lot of the
time.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
You mean she knows more than Victoria's Secret.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Right what?
Because you know I did my ownthing and wore the wire bras for
a few years and then, when I,you know, started getting
serious about my health againand going back to the way I was
raised, when I quit wearing wirebras and tight bras, I lost so
much inflammation in my entirebody and it just is more
comfortable.
We get used to this idea thatbeauty is pain.
(25:15):
Well, it doesn't have to be.
Beauty can be just being theway God made you.
And yes, you know, for decencywe do wear our bras still, but
you don't have to have it tightand you shouldn't have it tight.
And in fact I always advisewomen to go up a size in the
band of your bra.
If you go down a cup size andup in the band, your bra is
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going to be a lot looser andstill fit good.
And I love that there are somany wireless bra options.
Now you can go to just aboutany store.
You know it's not going to bethe one they're advertising most
of the time, but you can go inany store and ask someone who
works there hey, where's yourwireless options?
They'll direct you to it, andit's actually way easier to shop
for bras than ever before,because you don't have a
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bazillion options.
You get the comfortable optionthat can still look flattering.
They've come a long ways.
You don't always have to dojust a little bralette, but hey,
when you can go with a bralette.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And with sports bras and compression bras.
Those are notoriously too tight.
I just I see women all the timewhere it's digging into their
skin.
Ladies, if it's digging intoyour skin, it's too tight,
you're not in the right size.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
That's what I tell women.
If you take your bra off andthere are red marks either on
your shoulders or around yourbra line, your bra's too tight,
and I think too.
you know we don't equate healthwith beauty but you go to any
stores health and beauty butthose don't always go together
(26:48):
because we do terrible things,terribly toxic things to our
bodies in general in the name ofbeauty.
And I feel like our society isdefinitely broken in the sense
that we don't appreciate breastsfor what they're supposed to be
right, they arehyper-sexualized in our culture,
(27:08):
unfortunately, because if youlook at social media, like
Victoria's Secret, any bracatalog that comes around,
you're not going to see normalbreasts, but that's what's put
in our face all the time and I'msorry, but if you've had
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children and then you nursedthose children, breastfed those
children, your breasts aren'tever going to look like that and
that doesn't mean that they'renot attractive or less, but
you're more likely to havehealthy breasts if you've done
those things, you know.
So, yeah, I always tell it'sstill my thing and maybe I
(27:54):
overuse it, but we always sayVictoria's secret is what we use
for the standard of beauty inAmerica.
But we should look at nationalgeographic to see what healthy
breasts look like.
And I will say this too, causeyou're saying like go into the
store, look at the wirelessoptions, and I agree with you.
But if you because I've seen afew of these online they're bras
(28:17):
or tank tops instead of brasand they're wireless, but
they'll show the women jumpingup and down and they're kind of
big women or big breasts andlike nothing moves.
Their breasts don't bounce atall.
That's not good.
That is too tight.
There's nothing wrong with yourbreasts moving with your body.
(28:38):
They're supposed to.
We've just gotten used toanother thing In a way I think
that we can acclimate ourselvesback to.
More natural is when you gohome, please take off your bra.
There's no reason to wear a braall the time, and if you're
sleeping in a bra, you betterback way the heck up, because
that is real bad.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Your body's never getting a break.
If you're sleeping in that bra,like at night, when you're
supposed to repair, rest andrepair, you ain't getting that.
That's not happening.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, you're.
You're really impairing yourlymphatic flow um when you're
sleeping with a bra.
So stop, just stop now.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Well, you know, and it's all about just feeling
empowered to be in charge ofyour own health.
You know that sounds so cliche,but think about how many women,
Sharon, that you talk to.
I know for me so many womenaren't even aware of what their
breast tissue should feel like,does feel like they're not aware
, they haven't been empoweredand they're not aware.
(29:37):
So how important, would you say, home breast exams are for
women?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
You know, amazingly first of all, I think it's very
important, but amazingly we nolonger recommend that women
perform self breast exams athome.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
The.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
United States preventive services task force
who sets all the standards, likeyou should go get a colonoscopy
this many times for this.
You know they set your like,your risk categories and what
types of preventive screeningsyou should get and how often.
And it is appalling to me thatwe have decided women should not
(30:19):
touch their own breasts on theregular to examine for changes
because it might invoke fear.
Just let your doctor take careof that for you, and I rebuke
that.
Ladies, check your breasts,check them often and check them
completely.
It's better when they're wet.
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I mean, well, let's just go allthe way in there, right, it's
best to do it sitting and thenlying back, and it is easier in
the shower, you know, if you'rewet, because the skin is slicker
and easier to move over.
But you don't really know whatabnormal will feel like, or
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normal really, until you juststarted feeling your breasts,
yours or anyone else's.
You know, and there are.
I don't know how many timesthrough the years I've heard
women who've who've had breastcancer and you know who found
their, the, the lump on theirbreasts, their husband, because
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they weren't checking themselves.
But their husbands weretouching their breasts and their
husbands knew something wasthere.
So I think that it is veryimportant that women check
themselves at home.
I don't care what system ororgan of the body we're talking
about.
Nobody will ever advocate foryou like you will, and if you
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don't know your body and youhaven't bothered to check in
with yourself, it's going to bereally hard to do that, because
you're going to have trustissues with yourself, and a way
to avoid that is to tune intoyour body, and I think we live
in such a distracted society ingeneral.
It's really hard to take fiveminutes and think about hmm, did
(32:11):
I check?
Have I felt that in my breastsbefore, or is that something
different?
Heck, I mean, how many timeshave we asked people how many
bowel movements do you have in aday?
Oh, my goodness, yes, and what?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
happens.
Yeah, A lot of people don'tknow, and you know we're not
here to make anyone feel badabout themselves.
But it just comes down to alevel of awareness, of slowing
down and tuning into what yourbody is doing throughout the day
.
Understand that you need toknow how many bowel movements
you're having.
You need to have a baseline toknow what normal breast tissue
(32:47):
feels like so you can know whensomething is there that just
isn't right.
And the sooner you know thebetter.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, and they haven't stopped telling men to
check their testicles.
True, that so again as much asI don't want to be against the
patriarchy.
On this I'm calling in chargeon women's breast health.
Ladies, we deserve better, yeah, and I think we need to do
(33:16):
better for ourselves, you know,especially women with, with
dense breast tissue.
Because, too, not just forfibrocystic breasts but women in
general, the texture of ourbreasts, the sensitivity, the
size varies with our cycle, andif you're not tuned into that,
(33:38):
you know you could misssomething.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
So what signs and symptom sharing should women be
aware of when it comes tochanges in breast health and
doing the self-checks at home?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Well, I think that a really good rule of thumb is to
understand that you do have alot of lymphatic tissue right on
the lateral side, like nearyour armpits, and we have a lot
of fat cells.
You have milk ducts, so there'sa lot of little knobby or bumpy
(34:11):
tissue.
It's not all soft and easy tofeel through for everybody, but
I think if you are feelingsomething that moves around,
that's generally a pretty goodthing, because if it's not fixed
in place, that's usually abetter sign.
(34:33):
If it's soft, like maybe theend of your nose or your cheek,
that's less likely to besomething problematic.
And if it feels like the end ofyour elbow, like if it's real
hard, like a piece of rock orsomething, that typically is not
a good sign.
(34:56):
But again, if you haven't feltthings, how would you know?
And we have women who come in,um, you know, and they've got
like fatty cysts and stuff, butthey've never felt it, they've
never felt their breasts before,and then, once they start, it's
like oh no, what is that?
And not everything needs to bebiopsied.
(35:18):
Honestly, I just don't believein being real biopsied forceful
and traumatic and invasive.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Agreed.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, and there's also the idea with breast health
.
Whether we're looking at cystsor tumors or unknown masses, if
your body made it, your bodyprobably has a way to help get
rid of it.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
It's giving your body the right tools and
understanding where the blocksare.
The breaks are in thosepathways.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Where did that come from?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, your body doesn't just do that out of
nowhere.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, and I think too .
You know, we would be remiss ifwe didn't mention emotions and
breast health.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yes, that's a huge topic that gets ignored for all
kinds of health problems, butespecially for breasts, because
women are emotional beings.
Now, everyone has emotions, menand women, but women are more
emotional and with that we carrya lot more and you've got to
(36:31):
let those go and there'sdifferent techniques that you
can do for that.
We do emotion code here, orthere's even homeopathics and
flower remedies and essentialoils, things that help the body
and EFT tapping, which you canlearn how to do for free at home
.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, yeah, there's a ton of stuff, but I think the
more in tuned we are with ourbodies know how many bowel
movements you've had in a day,know how many times you ate in a
day, know what your breasttissue feels like at any time of
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the month there is nothingdirty and there is nothing wrong
with knowing your body andtouching your breasts and making
sure that it feels right.
Also, back to what should womenbe looking for?
Like if you have puckering.
Like if your nipple all of asudden is drawn in, that's
(37:29):
problematic.
Nipple discharge outside oflactation.
That would be something youwould want to get checked out.
And then, obviously, likeanything that has discharge with
it, like a cyst or a wound, ifyou will.
You know anything that persists, persists and and bothers you.
(37:51):
Get it checked out.
It doesn't mean don't go to thedoctor, and that's certainly
what we don't want people to say.
But there are a lot of ways tocheck things out and I know
there are gynecologists who willreally reassure women, you know
, because they feel you know 10to 20 breasts a day and so they
(38:12):
know what breast tissue shouldfeel like.
But a woman may beuncomfortable with something.
Get it checked out.
Give yourself some peace ofmind.
I think sometimes we manifestour worst fears because we
fixate on things, and I don'tlike to be that type of person
you know, like oh don't thinkabout it and it'll go away.
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Well, just being proactive though, too, because
you know a lot of women eitherthink, okay, unless I don't feel
anything, there's nothing there.
But sometimes things could bebrewing that you don't feel or
see, and that's where, onceagain, thermography and early
detection and just being awareis important, because sometimes
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you know the toxins could bestacking up in your liver and
not getting out and that's goingto reflect in the breast, so
you might not be as fine as youthink.
Not to go on fear, right.
We don't want to scare anyoneinto taking care of their health
.
We want to empower women totake care of their health, but
just have the knowledge andinformation that you can get
with regular screenings,self-exams and thermographies,
(39:19):
things like that you know.
Remember, too, that older womenare not the only ones at risk,
especially nowadays.
The only ones at risk,especially nowadays.
I've met so many 20 and30-year-olds who've had breast
cancer and thankfully they livedto tell about it and recovered
from it.
But it's just more and morecommon at younger ages, and even
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for me, my first thermography,my breasts look awful.
It looked like I was headedtowards cancer, but it wasn't
yet.
It was just saying hey, here'sthis dysregulation that you need
to get under control and I wasin my early 20s, so it was a
really great wake-up call toknow okay, I need to take care
of this part of my body a littlebit better and have some
(40:03):
awareness.
Because, even if breast cancerdoesn't run in one's family,
because if it does you're goingto be on alert.
But even if it doesn't run inthe family, you still could be
susceptible to it if you havebeen exposed to enough toxins.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah, purely by virtue of toxin exposure.
Yes, and not knowing how yourbody detoxes, right?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Right.
Are you a poor detoxer in thefirst place?
Are you prone to hormoneimbalances?
Are you a poor methylator?
Whatever it is, those toxinscould be stacking up on you,
unbeknownst to you, untilsomething happens.
And then people feel like, outof nowhere, I got cancer, I got
you know.
I hate to keep going back tocancer because that's not the
(40:49):
only thing, that's just thebiggest one people think about.
I know every time I do athermography review, people are
like, okay, well, is it cancer?
Is it cancer?
Like it's not always cancer.
You could just have a reallypoor detox system.
That right now your body'sgoing to turn on you and shut
down on you Doesn't always meancancer.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, and you know, there's the, you know thinking
about cancer as a metabolicdisease, which we need to do a
podcast on that.
Yes, talking about metabolichealth, because it's so all
encompassing, from cognitivefunction to pancreatic function,
thyroid, adrenal cortisolproduction, reproductive health,
(41:30):
I mean how your body makes fueland how smoothly that happens.
I mean your breasts do play arole there, right?
Yeah?
And I think, too, women who getmastitis a lot.
Thermography is really helpfulto show them early on, like, hey
, you better pay attention here.
(41:50):
We got to clean your lymph upso that you don't get these
infections.
We've been very successfuldealing with supporting women
breastfeeding, um who who areprone to mastitis, and and
guiding them through.
Thermography is a tool to helpdetect but, like with mastitis,
you don't always needthermography, right, but it is
(42:11):
recognizing that you don't waituntil you're running a fever and
your boob looks like awatermelon, you know, on fire,
um, to do anything about it.
You want to pay attention toyour breasts and act early.
That's a that's a big deal,yeah, and act early, that's a
(42:36):
big deal, yeah, I think that Idon't know.
I just feel like women ingeneral are being led to be
afraid of breasts, right, afraidof imperfection too.
Things can only go wrong.
That's not true at all.
Yeah, enjoy them, but let themgo Be free.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Don't be uptight about it.
Literally don't have them upand tight.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yeah, yeah for sure, and I think one of our big
things too is that knowledge ispower and if you know more about
your genetics, if you have theprivilege of knowing about your
family history because somepeople don't, some people do not
know their family history butwe do have genetics now that can
(43:18):
tell genetics testing that cantell us more about that but I
think the population in general,if we paid more attention to
our exposure to plastics, toxenoestrogens, that could do so
much.
Bpa everything says BPA free.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Now it says it has BPS, which is just as bad.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
I don't think that's any better.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
But don't believe that If it's in plastic, assume
that's any better.
No, it's not.
But don't believe that If it'sin plastic, assume it's not good
.
And it's not that you know.
Let's take this down to nutsand bolts Like, well, what do I
do?
How do I get rid of plastic?
Well, just save your jars.
I mean, you can't just throweverything out all the time, but
you could start saving yourjars and put things in jars
(44:07):
instead of plastic bags.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
You know, food actually lasts longer in glass
containers, whether it's a glassjar with a lid, or a glass
Pyrex with a snap lid or just,you know, a plastic lid.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
This is true.
I have seen Elena eat thingsout of a jar that I questioned.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Depends on the time of year and what's going on, but
I've had some stuff stay freshreally long in a jar.
Yeah, you have, and you didn'tget sick.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
That's a whole other topic.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yes, Adventures in food.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
But yeah, xenoestrogens can be very
problematic.
You know you could be low onestrogen and still be estrogen
dominant and still have problems.
I think too, especially withplastics.
Let's go back to this Don'tmicrowave in plastic.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Oh for the love, never Better yet don't microwave
and what was the other one.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
It was tea bags.
Aren't tea bags havemicroplastics?
Speaker 2 (45:11):
and notorious for microplastics.
You know they seem convenientbut it really isn't that
inconvenient to get used tousing loose leaf tea.
I I do a lot of that and itactually tastes better you don't
taste plastic, right, you don'tnotice plastic, but that theag
itself.
you notice a difference in thetaste, and it's just simple
(45:33):
little things.
You can't change everythingovernight and suddenly have all
glass containers and loose leaftea if you're drinking teas, but
you can make baby steps andeach month or week or month,
whatever try to do somethingbetter for you in regards to
your food containers.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah, do you have a favorite brand of loose leaf tea
?
Speaker 2 (45:53):
I love Mountain Rose Herbs.
That's my favorite go-to.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
They are good.
We get nothing from them, bythe way.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
No, nothing, truly, we don't.
I have to spend all my ownmoney to get the products
because they're great, but theyhave an amazing array of herbs
and herbal teas and black teasand green teas, and there's
other companies out there.
I just I really love everythingI've gotten from Mountain Rose
Herbs yeah, I do too.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
There are some good, good lines out there, and if you
get one of those tea decantersor tea diffusers, it's really
nice to have with you.
It keeps it hot, it's like aYeti, but it's glass and it's
for tea, and that's reallyreally awesome.
No BPA, no BPA, that is.
That is ideal.
And I think you know, justpaying attention to everything
(46:39):
that we put in and on our bodyfragrances, especially
fragrances and can we just saythe smell of clean is not a
smell.
There is no fragrance withclean, but we've been
conditioned to think, oh, itsmells so clean.
What's it called Mountain freshor spring breeze or ocean fresh
(47:02):
or you know whatever?
But clean doesn't smell.
And you don't really get thatif you're going down the laundry
aisle.
It's toxic.
Those chemicals are so bad.
The plug-ins, the candles,those are just as bad for breast
(47:23):
health as anything else thatyou're soaking in.
You're just inhaling it, Iguess.
So, yeah, I think that we justneed to develop a mindset
overall of what can I do to havea healthy body, and our breasts
are a part of that.
(47:43):
And the breasts are not to befeared, right, they're not to be
avoided and they're not to benot felt or touched.
But I would just encouragewomen to develop a mindset of
having healthy breasts.
And health extends beyond anappearance.
(48:03):
Okay, healthy is veryattractive, there's nothing I
mean.
Think about skin in general.
We all recognize when we seegood skin, right, and that's
pretty.
You can be real ugly, but ifyou have good skin you're not so
ugly.
That's ugly, but no, reallyhealthy is beautiful.
(48:26):
But no, really healthy isbeautiful.
Healthy is its own kind ofbeautiful.
I really think it's anapproachable, relatable thing
and I think that that energyjust exudes from the inside out
and it shows in our skin and onthermography it will show how
(48:53):
your breasts are, but everythingelse too.
And just you know, avoidfalling into what pop culture,
social media, whatever else isout there, tells us um, hey,
this is attractive, or this iswhat you have to do, or if you
want to be beautiful, you've gotto do this or do that.
It's a trap, and it just theselies that we're told in our
(49:15):
society suck the life force andthe positivity out of life.
Let's just acknowledge thatbreasts come in all shapes and
sizes, all colors and textures,and by golly it just makes us
more interesting as a people youknow.
So embrace what you've beengiven and take really good care
(49:37):
of it, because there arebeautiful women everywhere, with
large breasts, small breasts,no breasts.
We're all unique and that's agift.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Well, and that's where real beauty is.
Health and taking care of yourbreasts actually will make the
whole rest of your body a lothealthier too, because if you're
working on lymphaticcirculation, that's going to
make healthy breasts.
If you are working on a strongcore and having tone you know,
not like everyone doesn't haveto be bodybuilder, toned right,
(50:10):
just to have some muscle andtone.
That's nature's natural breastlift, doing pushups and just
working on the pectoral musclesacross the chest it's going to
make you stronger, you're goingto feel healthier and your
breasts are going to be a lothealthier.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Yeah, you're able to engage more of those muscles
because there's this whole withthe lifting program I'm doing.
It's the mind muscle connection.
I hate hearing that, but it'strue.
If you're trying to activate amuscle, you want to think about
the muscle, you want to touchthe muscle and flex the muscle.
And if you have a sports bra onthat has you squished, you know
to, to hell and back, you'renot going to be very good at
(50:51):
activating that muscle.
It's too uncomfortable.
So, exactly like Elena's saying, you know, strengthen your core
, do pushups and plank without abra on.
Do some.
I hate pull-ups but, uh, anychest day, I really try to work
out without a bra on so that Ican fully activate.
(51:13):
It's already hard enough toactivate.
I think you're pectoralis, youknow, for women Maybe you can do
it.
But I want to get the most outof it because I want a strong
body and I want a healthy bodytop to bottom, right, yep, can I
get an?
Speaker 2 (51:31):
amen, Amen sister Amen.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Yes, okay, well, I think you know, given that this
seems like the perfect place forus to just wrap up, we hope
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Welcome to the K6 Wellness Revolution podcast.
My name is Sharon, owner of K6Wellness Center in Dallas, texas
.
I'm going to be your hosttonight with Elena, and we're
going to talk again about healthand wellness.
But today because here it isOctober and it is Breast Health
Awareness Month all over theworld you see pink everywhere
(00:25):
and Elena and I are going totake a deep dive into breast
health and we're going to talkspecifically about how whole
body thermography can be a realvital tool for your breast
health and overall health.
In fact, if you remember likeour very first podcast episode
was just about whole bodythermography and it was one of
(00:45):
our most popular, if not themost popular, services that we
have here at K6 Wellness.
And since we're, you know breasthealth awareness well, I feel
like it's more breast cancerawareness than it's never about
health.
It's just about let's name adisease, since that's what this
(01:06):
month is.
We want to really go a littlefurther and I feel like when we
just think of breasts as theyassociate to either cancer okay,
so disease or something verysexual, and then no woman is
satisfied with what she hasbecause of whatever pop culture,
(01:30):
social media, then we becomedeluded.
We get off track with whathealth really is.
And one of the things I'll justsay before we get started it is
a bee in my bonnet is the SusanG Komen Foundation and the
whole idea that they are thesavior of the world with regard
(01:51):
to breast health.
And they're not.
They're a fundraisingorganization.
We've looked it up multiplesources, including USA Today,
wasn't it Snopes?
I think Snopes even said it.
Not that I rely on Snopes foreverything, but they only give
20% of the funds raised tobreast cancer research.
(02:12):
And all of that, I promise you,goes to big pharma.
It's all big medicine I don'tthink anybody's putting money
into.
Hey, what diet is best forpreventing breast cancer?
Or maybe do plastics play arole?
(02:32):
Or take your pick of lifestyleissues and breast health
concerns that we could pour alot more resources than zero
into and still not hit what bigpharma takes on these cancer
drugs and immunotherapy drugs,and I think that women would be
(02:52):
a lot better off and they'd havehealthier breasts.
So there's my little soapbox.
Not a fan of the pink.
That's why we're wearing maroonIn protest.
In protest, not really justworked out that way, but it it
is.
I just it it bugs me and um, so, whatever, over today we're
(03:17):
going to share thoughts, we'regoing to talk about how to
actually create breast health,what, what should be involved
with healthy breasts anddeveloping healthy breasts,
recovering healthy breasts.
Should you get a mammogram?
How necessary are screenings?
Because there's all kinds ofscreenings, and we want to talk
(03:37):
about how thermography comparesto some of these other
screenings and so, yeah, let'skind of get started or let's
just continue stepping on toesright now.
So go, elena, yeah way to go,sharon.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Let's just get right to it, All the things that
irritate us, because what reallyirritates me you really
actually already you touched onit it's this focus that we're
saying.
It's Breast Health AwarenessMonth and truly to all of our
listeners, that is what K6Wellness considers October.
This is breast health awareness.
This is not breast diseasecures and fundraisers.
(04:15):
It's just irritating that allthese different diseases get
this attention with the fixationon the disease itself and
there's not conversation in thetraditional medical realm about
the cause.
People don't just wake up andhave cancer one day, whether
it's breasts or prostate or youname it right.
(04:36):
There's all kinds of cancers.
But what's important toremember is that your breasts,
for women, are actually abarometer for your overall
toxicity and health.
For men we say it's theprostate, for women it's breasts
.
So if we were able to justthink about breasts as really a
warning sign for health.
(04:57):
And that's what we look forwhen we do the thermographies,
which is our favorite ifanyone's listened to us at all,
I think we mentionedthermography a lot because it is
such a great whole bodyscreening.
So, sharon, tell us yourfavorite thing about using
thermographies for breast health.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Well and I'm going to extend beyond breast cancer,
because that's only one smallaspect.
We see a lot more of otherthings.
But I love thermography becauseI think that the way that the
breasts show up on thermography,it's not that we've just.
First of all, we're not imagingthe breasts right.
(05:35):
We are measuring temperaturesand I can't remember is it 15
temperatures on each breast?
I have to think about it in myhead, thank you.
But for women who have densebreast tissue, fibrocystic
breasts, for women who havescars on their breasts, women
(05:58):
who have a history of mastitis,women who have had reduction
surgery, women who have implants, women who've had explants,
there is so much to be gained bymeasuring breast health using
thermography.
(06:18):
So we can see what's going onin the breast very early, from
hey, there may be someinflammation here, to you've got
some scarring and probably someadhesions in there.
And usually women, when theyhave that, they've got some pain
right.
(06:39):
And what do we do?
Or women have a growth, or theythink there may be something.
And what's the first thing wedo?
You go for a mammogram.
And what do they do?
Well, let's just squish yourbreast between two plates and
we're going to take this pictureand I am telling you that if we
(06:59):
measured men's testicles ortesticular health that way, you
know that would last.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That would be a protest that would be a real
protest.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
No, they go straight to ultrasound or you know they
do something else.
And but with women it's like,but it's just, and even look
this up, just like in doingresearch you go in and it's like
, yeah, it doesn't feel good,but it doesn't last very long.
Well, okay, getting stabbedprobably feels the same way too,
and there are.
(07:32):
There's the idea.
There was a lot of conversationyears ago about how mammograms
actually created more problemsthan they solved, and I think
the politics around it aredisgusting and I don't mean
politics like red versus blue,I'm just saying big medicine,
(07:53):
because we've really changed alot of things.
But all that's okay.
I'll get back to thermography.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
But just to point out too and I think people who've
listened to us know this but foranyone who doesn't know, you
know, at thermography we'retaking thermal temperatures.
There's no radiation, becausein a mammogram you're smashing
the tissue and radiating it.
Not only is it uncomfortable,it's not safe.
Radiation is not safe and youknow.
(08:21):
They're recommending more andmore 3D mammograms versus the 2D
, and the 3D is two and threetimes the amount of radiation.
So women walk away getting twoand three times the normal
amount of radiation than theygot in the first place with
repeated mammograms.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And there's no.
As far as I've ever seen, withthe thousands of women that
we've had come through withimplants, there's not a lot of
doctors who will say, yeah,you've got implants.
Far as I've ever seen, with thethousands of women that we've
had come through with implants,there's not a lot of doctors who
will say, yeah, you've gotimplants.
You should probably not squishthose between two plates.
But it makes sense.
I mean and I have seen reportslikely rupture yeah, you take a
(09:01):
baggie full of water or silicone, you squish it, you stand a
good chance of creating aproblem there.
And there has been a totalshirking of responsibility.
There has not been this ideathat, hey, let's do something
different for these breasts thathave the silicone implants and
(09:21):
I say silicone implants.
I don't care what's inside thesilicone bag, it's all in a
silicone bag.
I think these women needoptions and they need better
information and better education.
So yeah.
And that's why thermographywe're not squishing the breast,
we're applying an infraredthermometer or a sensor to the
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breast.
It's kind of like, you know,when you go to the doctor or you
have the forehead temperaturethings and ours is way more
accurate, but we're basicallytouching the body in different
places and just takingtemperatures no pain, no trauma
to the tissue, nothing.
And it's so accurate and we'reable to see.
(10:06):
Oh wow, you know where we'relooking for uniformity.
We're looking for symmetry sideto side.
No matter how big one breast isversus the other, or whether
you've had a double mastectomy,there should still be a certain
amount of cooling,thermoregulation, and when
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that's not there, then it's upto us to look at it and
determine why.
But then also, I lovethermography for breast health
because we never stop at thebreasts With a mammogram.
Okay, you've got a picture ofyour breasts and it hurt and it
may tell you something, and itmay not, and it may lead you to
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a needless procedure.
That is going to be a needlebiopsy that comes back, fine,
but oh, by the way, we're goingto leave a little metal clip in
there.
So we know we've done thisbefore.
I don't like that Withthermography.
If we think there's a problemin the breast.
We can go look at the teeth,because there are five teeth on
each side of the mouth thatcorrespond with each breast.
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We can look at the stomach.
We can look at the pancreas, wecan look at the lymphatic
system.
There are a lot of otherindicators of hey, you've got a
problem here.
It's not just the breast,because we recognize the whole
body works together.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, and that's where we start with the whole
body picture, Because I know inall the years I've been doing
this, there's a handful of womenwho we look at their breast
thermography, the whole bodythermography, and then we say,
hey, we need some additionalinformation.
And our first recommendation isalways let's get an ultrasound,
because that's going to be a lotsafer than getting the
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radiation of a mammogram.
And then I think in 10 yearsbetween you and me, like we've
told two women okay, after anultrasound, okay, now you
probably need to go get amammogram because we exhausted
everything else.
We've done all these things.
We need to check the box there.
But that is such a rare thingbecause we get enough
information in the thermography.
When you're evaluating thedifferent organs, like you
(12:12):
mentioned the stomach, thepancreas and the lymph you
always have to look at that,because if there's a blocked
spot in the breast and all thelymph is blocked, that's a
pretty easy puzzle to figure out.
But mammograms are somethingthat should be very
conservatively recommended,versus just every year, every
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other year, All right.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, I think that's a good point.
I mean, it's not thatmammograms don't have their
place, but as a first-linescreening tool it kind of sucks.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Right, it's only going to pick up something
that's already been there,whereas with thermography,
especially with an annualthermography, where we can track
the patterns of thosetemperatures and see, okay, well
, you started from here where itwas not good at all.
Now you're here where it's notgreat but it's getting better.
And then the next year you see,okay, that's really good now,
(13:06):
but mammograms are only going togive you bad news, you know
once it's there.
Agreed and I think, yeah, sothat's like whole cancer part,
but then there's the wholeimplant part, and I mean you
perform more thermographies thanI do, um yeah, well, and and
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the thing is just because awoman has implants you know this
is to our, our listeners orviewers who maybe you do have
implants doesn't mean you'regoing to get a bad thermography
right.
We've seen some where thebreast points actually regulated
fine.
I, I mean, you're one of thosepeople that you aren't reacting
to that silicone, but that isnot the common population we see
(13:52):
.
Oftentimes we see dysregulatingpoints, whether it's from
reactions to the silicone orscarring from the actual
procedure itself, and so we haveto take that into consideration
when we're looking at thebreast health, because you don't
want to just look at thereadings and say, oh, it's bad.
Everyone thinks cancer is theonly thing that could be bad or
could be wrong.
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You can have autoimmune, youcould have reactions to the
implants or you could just haveautoimmune in general without
implants and your body can'tregulate those temperatures
properly because, remember, it'sa barometer of your overall
toxicity.
But the implants are a big one,we see, because there's a lot
of illness that goes with breastimplants, which I think we've
(14:34):
touched on in previousconversations and you know we
can talk more about that later.
But it's very important to stayon top of your breast health.
And when you've got thoseimplants, let's talk
thermography, because it's goingto be a much more comfortable
experience.
It's going to track youroverall health with that.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, for sure, and I think you know especially it's
funny because when I studiedthis and I went to Switzerland
and I was showing a few thingsthat I you know a few cases and
they were asking about you know,like, well, what do you do,
what do you see?
And and when I was telling wedo a lot of you know, we see a
(15:16):
lot of breast implants and andbreast implant illness and
they're like oh, do you work oncelebrities and movie stars?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
No, Just Dallas, texas, it's just.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Dallas and they didn't get it.
They didn't understand, butthey don't experience the level
of cosmetic procedures inGermany and Switzerland that we
do or not.
People who are going to getthermographies anyway and I
think I'm grateful here that somany women who do have the
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cosmetic procedures done stillcome and get thermographies and
I think a lot of these women dofind thermography because the
thought of squishing theirbreast implants in a mammogram
just doesn't appeal and itdoesn't.
It's not common sense, right?
And so they're.
They're out there looking forother things.
And it's not that we saythermography replaces
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mammography.
It's different.
We're not imaging takingtemperatures, we're not imaging.
And, yeah, we just come at itfrom a different angle.
But that's the beauty ofnaturopathic care.
You know, we're doing somethingtotally different.
And I think implants I have tosay that's one of the bigger
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things, that it's a challenge.
I think I feel like it's.
It's a huge challenge, almostbigger than cancer for a lot of
women because, like you said,scars and and if you think about
the fascia and you have all ofyour tissue cut through to put a
bag, to put a insert, a bag,whether you put it behind the
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muscle or or wherever, you'regoing to have some serious
healing issues and you may havemobility problems, you could
have keloiding, which is wherethe scar gets real hard and
extends beyond the incision line, and then, yeah, ultimately
there's the whole idea thatyou've put a foreign object into
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the body and the immune systemcould eventually recognize that
and go, yeah, that doesn't gothere, we're going to start the
inflammatory process, we'regoing to start marking this, and
then women come in with, I mean, all manner of symptoms, right,
and we see them with fatigueand headaches and food
(17:52):
sensitivities and thyroidproblems.
Yeah, not just foodsensitivities, right?
Sometimes it's like all of asudden I'm reacting to
everything and that's an immunesystem gone haywire, and I think
thermography is really good atpointing that out.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Well, and it helps a person know where to start with
their health.
Women come in for the breastscreening and we never just do
the breast.
People will ask for that and wedon't.
We look at the whole body Onceagain.
You've got to get the wholepicture and I think a lot of the
time women who are new to thisexperience they don't even know
what they just signed up for andwhat they asked for.
(18:32):
Because you're going to get somuch good information it can be
a little overwhelming, butthat's where we break it down.
You can get so much goodinformation that's going to
impact every area of your life.
So, whether you knew you hadthyroid problems or that's
showing up on a thermography andthen we investigate through
blood work and see, yeah, youreally do have a thyroid problem
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and that's not always justgoing to be implants.
I know we're talking aboutimplants in this moment here,
but there's so many otherailments that can reflect
through the breast tissue.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, for sure.
Lymph issues Excuse me.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Well, bless you.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Thank you.
Texas in August.
I mean October, it's not Augustanymore.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, explants bring their own problem and sometimes
even, you know, x-plants are agreat solution for a lot of
women.
But with X-plants we then havescarring issues.
And how was the X-plant done?
Did they remove the wholecapsule?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And are there mold issues or infection issues,
hidden infections there's a lotand additional scarring, you
know, additional scarring fromremoving those, and that's where
you can really get the workdone, because you're trying to
heal the inside out, wherethere's no longer a foreign
object.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, and I think, ultimately, more often than not,
I think we've had, you know,less than five cases where the
explant did not um help withinsix months with overall health
and I think there wereextenuating circumstances in
most of those cases.
But um, I think that overall,the explant process, there are
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some great explant breastsurgeons, um surgeons all over
the country that do it well,they do it right and that's kind
of their niche.
But I think one of the otherthings that we do see benefit
because I mean obviously, likeimplants, I never advise anybody
(20:41):
to get breast implants, I think, but I don't judge people for
getting implants because there'sa lot of emotional energy that
goes into it.
Whether you get breast implantsbecause you had a mastectomy or
because your husband wants youto have bigger breasts or
whatever.
We're not going to judge.
(21:01):
We're going to meet peoplewhere they're at and try to help
them find their best healththrough whatever path they're on
.
But explants, I think overall,do usually improve people's
health dramatically.
And I think breast reductionsurgeries, that's another one.
You know we see women who'vegone through the reduction
surgeries and I, you know Idon't want to be on the
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operating table but I have tosay I've seen it help so many
women who had back and shoulderproblems and I just wonder like
would they?
Would they naturally havebreasts that were so big and
burdensome, apart from ourenvironment?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
and the toxins, the things that you're being exposed
to, um cause that.
That brings up a good pointjust about the toxic exposures
that we're seeing more and moreof, and it is going to always
impact that breast health everysingle time.
Um, you know you might not beprone to cancers, right,
remember, it's not always aboutcancer it's.
It's about just dysregulationto begin with and disease
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patterns.
But plastics Tell me, sharon,how many women do you see who
have when you do those toxintests or what other kind of
testing you're doing?
But how many women have somekind of plastic exposures?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, Well, even men, I mean affecting their ability
to produce or to keep hightestosterone levels or good
testosterone levels.
Plastics really interrupthealthy estrogen production and
metabolism, because plastics,many plastics or plasticizers, I
(22:49):
guess is another word right, orplasticizers, I guess is
another word right theyinterfere, they take up these
receptor sites in our body whereestrogen is supposed to go.
Well, now you've got a plasticmolecule that looks like
estrogen in a place whereestrogen belongs, but that
plastic doesn't know what to do.
It just happened to fit thereceptor site.
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It's not going to behave likeestrogen would, and that's where
we get all these healthproblems right.
Um, it can.
It can lead to, um, one mangynecomastia.
We can have low sperm counts inwomen, we can have, um, all
manner of reproductive problems,and I think within the breast
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realm especially, like in thearmpit area, we see a lot of
problems and I think some of itcomes to our bras.
Can we just talk about bras fora minute, since this is breast
health Right.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
We need to honestly start there.
We should have started therebecause we live in a society
where every woman thinks it'sgot to be tight and tightened up
All the fits of the bras.
The tighter the better.
It's going to make you lookmore voluptuous or feel more
secure.
But honestly, the tighter thebra, the worse for your breast
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health, because you're cuttingoff the lymphatic flow.
You're cutting off just theflow of your body and your
breasts are fatty tissue.
Toxins love fatty tissue.
So especially if you have awire in your bra and you're
putting that bra right by one ofthe largest lymph nodes under
your underarms and you'rekeeping it tight so nothing can
move, you're just inviting thetoxins to come settle in and
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make a home in your breasts.
And I know my mom always saiddon't wear wire bras.
Don't wear wire bras.
I'm just like whatever mom youknow, like we all do when we're
young.
We don't think mom knows bestand she really does A lot of the
time.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
You mean she knows more than Victoria's Secret.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Right what?
Because you know I did my ownthing and wore the wire bras for
a few years and then, when I,you know, started getting
serious about my health againand going back to the way I was
raised, when I quit wearing wirebras and tight bras, I lost so
much inflammation in my entirebody and it just is more
comfortable.
We get used to this idea thatbeauty is pain.
(25:15):
Well, it doesn't have to be.
Beauty can be just being theway God made you.
And yes, you know, for decencywe do wear our bras still, but
you don't have to have it tightand you shouldn't have it tight.
And in fact I always advisewomen to go up a size in the
band of your bra.
If you go down a cup size andup in the band, your bra is
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going to be a lot looser andstill fit good.
And I love that there are somany wireless bra options.
Now you can go to just aboutany store.
You know it's not going to bethe one they're advertising most
of the time, but you can go inany store and ask someone who
works there hey, where's yourwireless options?
They'll direct you to it, andit's actually way easier to shop
for bras than ever before,because you don't have a
(25:57):
bazillion options.
You get the comfortable optionthat can still look flattering.
They've come a long ways.
You don't always have to dojust a little bralette, but hey,
when you can go with a bralette.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And with sports bras and compression bras.
Those are notoriously too tight.
I just I see women all the timewhere it's digging into their
skin.
Ladies, if it's digging intoyour skin, it's too tight,
you're not in the right size.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
That's what I tell women.
If you take your bra off andthere are red marks either on
your shoulders or around yourbra line, your bra's too tight,
and I think too.
you know we don't equate healthwith beauty but you go to any
stores health and beauty butthose don't always go together
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because we do terrible things,terribly toxic things to our
bodies in general in the name ofbeauty.
And I feel like our society isdefinitely broken in the sense
that we don't appreciate breastsfor what they're supposed to be
right, they arehyper-sexualized in our culture,
(27:08):
unfortunately, because if youlook at social media, like
Victoria's Secret, any bracatalog that comes around,
you're not going to see normalbreasts, but that's what's put
in our face all the time and I'msorry, but if you've had
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children and then you nursedthose children, breastfed those
children, your breasts aren'tever going to look like that and
that doesn't mean that they'renot attractive or less, but
you're more likely to havehealthy breasts if you've done
those things, you know.
So, yeah, I always tell it'sstill my thing and maybe I
(27:54):
overuse it, but we always sayVictoria's secret is what we use
for the standard of beauty inAmerica.
But we should look at nationalgeographic to see what healthy
breasts look like.
And I will say this too, causeyou're saying like go into the
store, look at the wirelessoptions, and I agree with you.
But if you because I've seen afew of these online they're bras
(28:17):
or tank tops instead of brasand they're wireless, but
they'll show the women jumpingup and down and they're kind of
big women or big breasts andlike nothing moves.
Their breasts don't bounce atall.
That's not good.
That is too tight.
There's nothing wrong with yourbreasts moving with your body.
(28:38):
They're supposed to.
We've just gotten used toanother thing In a way I think
that we can acclimate ourselvesback to.
More natural is when you gohome, please take off your bra.
There's no reason to wear a braall the time, and if you're
sleeping in a bra, you betterback way the heck up, because
that is real bad.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Your body's never getting a break.
If you're sleeping in that bra,like at night, when you're
supposed to repair, rest andrepair, you ain't getting that.
That's not happening.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, you're.
You're really impairing yourlymphatic flow um when you're
sleeping with a bra.
So stop, just stop now.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Well, you know, and it's all about just feeling
empowered to be in charge ofyour own health.
You know that sounds so cliche,but think about how many women,
Sharon, that you talk to.
I know for me so many womenaren't even aware of what their
breast tissue should feel like,does feel like they're not aware
, they haven't been empoweredand they're not aware.
(29:37):
So how important, would you say, home breast exams are for
women?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
You know, amazingly first of all, I think it's very
important, but amazingly we nolonger recommend that women
perform self breast exams athome.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
The.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
United States preventive services task force
who sets all the standards, likeyou should go get a colonoscopy
this many times for this.
You know they set your like,your risk categories and what
types of preventive screeningsyou should get and how often.
And it is appalling to me thatwe have decided women should not
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touch their own breasts on theregular to examine for changes
because it might invoke fear.
Just let your doctor take careof that for you, and I rebuke
that.
Ladies, check your breasts,check them often and check them
completely.
It's better when they're wet.
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I mean, well, let's just go allthe way in there, right, it's
best to do it sitting and thenlying back, and it is easier in
the shower, you know, if you'rewet, because the skin is slicker
and easier to move over.
But you don't really know whatabnormal will feel like, or
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normal really, until you juststarted feeling your breasts,
yours or anyone else's.
You know, and there are.
I don't know how many timesthrough the years I've heard
women who've who've had breastcancer and you know who found
their, the, the lump on theirbreasts, their husband, because
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they weren't checking themselves.
But their husbands weretouching their breasts and their
husbands knew something wasthere.
So I think that it is veryimportant that women check
themselves at home.
I don't care what system ororgan of the body we're talking
about.
Nobody will ever advocate foryou like you will, and if you
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don't know your body and youhaven't bothered to check in
with yourself, it's going to bereally hard to do that, because
you're going to have trustissues with yourself, and a way
to avoid that is to tune intoyour body, and I think we live
in such a distracted society ingeneral.
It's really hard to take fiveminutes and think about hmm, did
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I check?
Have I felt that in my breastsbefore, or is that something
different?
Heck, I mean, how many timeshave we asked people how many
bowel movements do you have in aday?
Oh, my goodness, yes, and what?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
happens.
Yeah, A lot of people don'tknow, and you know we're not
here to make anyone feel badabout themselves.
But it just comes down to alevel of awareness, of slowing
down and tuning into what yourbody is doing throughout the day
.
Understand that you need toknow how many bowel movements
you're having.
You need to have a baseline toknow what normal breast tissue
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feels like so you can know whensomething is there that just
isn't right.
And the sooner you know thebetter.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, and they haven't stopped telling men to
check their testicles.
True, that so again as much asI don't want to be against the
patriarchy.
On this I'm calling in chargeon women's breast health.
Ladies, we deserve better, yeah, and I think we need to do
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better for ourselves, you know,especially women with, with
dense breast tissue.
Because, too, not just forfibrocystic breasts but women in
general, the texture of ourbreasts, the sensitivity, the
size varies with our cycle, andif you're not tuned into that,
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you know you could misssomething.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
So what signs and symptom sharing should women be
aware of when it comes tochanges in breast health and
doing the self-checks at home?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Well, I think that a really good rule of thumb is to
understand that you do have alot of lymphatic tissue right on
the lateral side, like nearyour armpits, and we have a lot
of fat cells.
You have milk ducts, so there'sa lot of little knobby or bumpy
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tissue.
It's not all soft and easy tofeel through for everybody, but
I think if you are feelingsomething that moves around,
that's generally a pretty goodthing, because if it's not fixed
in place, that's usually abetter sign.
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If it's soft, like maybe theend of your nose or your cheek,
that's less likely to besomething problematic.
And if it feels like the end ofyour elbow, like if it's real
hard, like a piece of rock orsomething, that typically is not
a good sign.
(34:56):
But again, if you haven't feltthings, how would you know?
And we have women who come in,um, you know, and they've got
like fatty cysts and stuff, butthey've never felt it, they've
never felt their breasts before,and then, once they start, it's
like oh no, what is that?
And not everything needs to bebiopsied.
(35:18):
Honestly, I just don't believein being real biopsied forceful
and traumatic and invasive.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Agreed.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, and there's also the idea with breast health
.
Whether we're looking at cystsor tumors or unknown masses, if
your body made it, your bodyprobably has a way to help get
rid of it.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
It's giving your body the right tools and
understanding where the blocksare.
The breaks are in thosepathways.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Where did that come from?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, your body doesn't just do that out of
nowhere.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, and I think too .
You know, we would be remiss ifwe didn't mention emotions and
breast health.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yes, that's a huge topic that gets ignored for all
kinds of health problems, butespecially for breasts, because
women are emotional beings.
Now, everyone has emotions, menand women, but women are more
emotional and with that we carrya lot more and you've got to
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let those go and there'sdifferent techniques that you
can do for that.
We do emotion code here, orthere's even homeopathics and
flower remedies and essentialoils, things that help the body
and EFT tapping, which you canlearn how to do for free at home
.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, yeah, there's a ton of stuff, but I think the
more in tuned we are with ourbodies know how many bowel
movements you've had in a day,know how many times you ate in a
day, know what your breasttissue feels like at any time of
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the month there is nothingdirty and there is nothing wrong
with knowing your body andtouching your breasts and making
sure that it feels right.
Also, back to what should womenbe looking for?
Like if you have puckering.
Like if your nipple all of asudden is drawn in, that's
(37:29):
problematic.
Nipple discharge outside oflactation.
That would be something youwould want to get checked out.
And then, obviously, likeanything that has discharge with
it, like a cyst or a wound, ifyou will.
You know anything that persists, persists and and bothers you.
(37:51):
Get it checked out.
It doesn't mean don't go to thedoctor, and that's certainly
what we don't want people to say.
But there are a lot of ways tocheck things out and I know
there are gynecologists who willreally reassure women, you know
, because they feel you know 10to 20 breasts a day and so they
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know what breast tissue shouldfeel like.
But a woman may beuncomfortable with something.
Get it checked out.
Give yourself some peace ofmind.
I think sometimes we manifestour worst fears because we
fixate on things, and I don'tlike to be that type of person
you know, like oh don't thinkabout it and it'll go away.
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Well, just being proactive though, too, because
you know a lot of women eitherthink, okay, unless I don't feel
anything, there's nothing there.
But sometimes things could bebrewing that you don't feel or
see, and that's where, onceagain, thermography and early
detection and just being awareis important, because sometimes
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you know the toxins could bestacking up in your liver and
not getting out and that's goingto reflect in the breast, so
you might not be as fine as youthink.
Not to go on fear, right.
We don't want to scare anyoneinto taking care of their health
.
We want to empower women totake care of their health, but
just have the knowledge andinformation that you can get
with regular screenings,self-exams and thermographies,
(39:19):
things like that you know.
Remember, too, that older womenare not the only ones at risk,
especially nowadays.
The only ones at risk,especially nowadays.
I've met so many 20 and30-year-olds who've had breast
cancer and thankfully they livedto tell about it and recovered
from it.
But it's just more and morecommon at younger ages, and even
(39:42):
for me, my first thermography,my breasts look awful.
It looked like I was headedtowards cancer, but it wasn't
yet.
It was just saying hey, here'sthis dysregulation that you need
to get under control and I wasin my early 20s, so it was a
really great wake-up call toknow okay, I need to take care
of this part of my body a littlebit better and have some
(40:03):
awareness.
Because, even if breast cancerdoesn't run in one's family,
because if it does you're goingto be on alert.
But even if it doesn't run inthe family, you still could be
susceptible to it if you havebeen exposed to enough toxins.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah, purely by virtue of toxin exposure.
Yes, and not knowing how yourbody detoxes, right?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Right.
Are you a poor detoxer in thefirst place?
Are you prone to hormoneimbalances?
Are you a poor methylator?
Whatever it is, those toxinscould be stacking up on you,
unbeknownst to you, untilsomething happens.
And then people feel like, outof nowhere, I got cancer, I got
you know.
I hate to keep going back tocancer because that's not the
(40:49):
only thing, that's just thebiggest one people think about.
I know every time I do athermography review, people are
like, okay, well, is it cancer?
Is it cancer?
Like it's not always cancer.
You could just have a reallypoor detox system.
That right now your body'sgoing to turn on you and shut
down on you Doesn't always meancancer.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, and you know, there's the, you know thinking
about cancer as a metabolicdisease, which we need to do a
podcast on that.
Yes, talking about metabolichealth, because it's so all
encompassing, from cognitivefunction to pancreatic function,
thyroid, adrenal cortisolproduction, reproductive health,
(41:30):
I mean how your body makes fueland how smoothly that happens.
I mean your breasts do play arole there, right?
Yeah?
And I think, too, women who getmastitis a lot.
Thermography is really helpfulto show them early on, like, hey
, you better pay attention here.
(41:50):
We got to clean your lymph upso that you don't get these
infections.
We've been very successfuldealing with supporting women
breastfeeding, um who who areprone to mastitis, and and
guiding them through.
Thermography is a tool to helpdetect but, like with mastitis,
you don't always needthermography, right, but it is
(42:11):
recognizing that you don't waituntil you're running a fever and
your boob looks like awatermelon, you know, on fire,
um, to do anything about it.
You want to pay attention toyour breasts and act early.
That's a that's a big deal,yeah, and act early, that's a
(42:36):
big deal, yeah, I think that Idon't know.
I just feel like women ingeneral are being led to be
afraid of breasts, right, afraidof imperfection too.
Things can only go wrong.
That's not true at all.
Yeah, enjoy them, but let themgo Be free.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Don't be uptight about it.
Literally don't have them upand tight.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yeah, yeah for sure, and I think one of our big
things too is that knowledge ispower and if you know more about
your genetics, if you have theprivilege of knowing about your
family history because somepeople don't, some people do not
know their family history butwe do have genetics now that can
(43:18):
tell genetics testing that cantell us more about that but I
think the population in general,if we paid more attention to
our exposure to plastics, toxenoestrogens, that could do so
much.
Bpa everything says BPA free.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Now it says it has BPS, which is just as bad.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
I don't think that's any better.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
But don't believe that If it's in plastic, assume
that's any better.
No, it's not.
But don't believe that If it'sin plastic, assume it's not good
.
And it's not that you know.
Let's take this down to nutsand bolts Like, well, what do I
do?
How do I get rid of plastic?
Well, just save your jars.
I mean, you can't just throweverything out all the time, but
you could start saving yourjars and put things in jars
(44:07):
instead of plastic bags.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
You know, food actually lasts longer in glass
containers, whether it's a glassjar with a lid, or a glass
Pyrex with a snap lid or just,you know, a plastic lid.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
This is true.
I have seen Elena eat thingsout of a jar that I questioned.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Depends on the time of year and what's going on, but
I've had some stuff stay freshreally long in a jar.
Yeah, you have, and you didn'tget sick.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
That's a whole other topic.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yes, Adventures in food.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
But yeah, xenoestrogens can be very
problematic.
You know you could be low onestrogen and still be estrogen
dominant and still have problems.
I think too, especially withplastics.
Let's go back to this Don'tmicrowave in plastic.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Oh for the love, never Better yet don't microwave
and what was the other one.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
It was tea bags.
Aren't tea bags havemicroplastics?
Speaker 2 (45:11):
and notorious for microplastics.
You know they seem convenientbut it really isn't that
inconvenient to get used tousing loose leaf tea.
I I do a lot of that and itactually tastes better you don't
taste plastic, right, you don'tnotice plastic, but that theag
itself.
you notice a difference in thetaste, and it's just simple
(45:33):
little things.
You can't change everythingovernight and suddenly have all
glass containers and loose leaftea if you're drinking teas, but
you can make baby steps andeach month or week or month,
whatever try to do somethingbetter for you in regards to
your food containers.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah, do you have a favorite brand of loose leaf tea
?
Speaker 2 (45:53):
I love Mountain Rose Herbs.
That's my favorite go-to.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
They are good.
We get nothing from them, bythe way.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
No, nothing, truly, we don't.
I have to spend all my ownmoney to get the products
because they're great, but theyhave an amazing array of herbs
and herbal teas and black teasand green teas, and there's
other companies out there.
I just I really love everythingI've gotten from Mountain Rose
Herbs yeah, I do too.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
There are some good, good lines out there, and if you
get one of those tea decantersor tea diffusers, it's really
nice to have with you.
It keeps it hot, it's like aYeti, but it's glass and it's
for tea, and that's reallyreally awesome.
No BPA, no BPA, that is.
That is ideal.
And I think you know, justpaying attention to everything
(46:39):
that we put in and on our bodyfragrances, especially
fragrances and can we just saythe smell of clean is not a
smell.
There is no fragrance withclean, but we've been
conditioned to think, oh, itsmells so clean.
What's it called Mountain freshor spring breeze or ocean fresh
(47:02):
or you know whatever?
But clean doesn't smell.
And you don't really get thatif you're going down the laundry
aisle.
It's toxic.
Those chemicals are so bad.
The plug-ins, the candles,those are just as bad for breast
(47:23):
health as anything else thatyou're soaking in.
You're just inhaling it, Iguess.
So, yeah, I think that we justneed to develop a mindset
overall of what can I do to havea healthy body, and our breasts
are a part of that.
(47:43):
And the breasts are not to befeared, right, they're not to be
avoided and they're not to benot felt or touched.
But I would just encouragewomen to develop a mindset of
having healthy breasts.
And health extends beyond anappearance.
(48:03):
Okay, healthy is veryattractive, there's nothing I
mean.
Think about skin in general.
We all recognize when we seegood skin, right, and that's
pretty.
You can be real ugly, but ifyou have good skin you're not so
ugly.
That's ugly, but no, reallyhealthy is beautiful.
(48:26):
But no, really healthy isbeautiful.
Healthy is its own kind ofbeautiful.
I really think it's anapproachable, relatable thing
and I think that that energyjust exudes from the inside out
and it shows in our skin and onthermography it will show how
(48:53):
your breasts are, but everythingelse too.
And just you know, avoidfalling into what pop culture,
social media, whatever else isout there, tells us um, hey,
this is attractive, or this iswhat you have to do, or if you
want to be beautiful, you've gotto do this or do that.
It's a trap, and it just theselies that we're told in our
(49:15):
society suck the life force andthe positivity out of life.
Let's just acknowledge thatbreasts come in all shapes and
sizes, all colors and textures,and by golly it just makes us
more interesting as a people youknow.
So embrace what you've beengiven and take really good care
(49:37):
of it, because there arebeautiful women everywhere, with
large breasts, small breasts,no breasts.
We're all unique and that's agift.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Well, and that's where real beauty is.
Health and taking care of yourbreasts actually will make the
whole rest of your body a lothealthier too, because if you're
working on lymphaticcirculation, that's going to
make healthy breasts.
If you are working on a strongcore and having tone you know,
not like everyone doesn't haveto be bodybuilder, toned right,
(50:10):
just to have some muscle andtone.
That's nature's natural breastlift, doing pushups and just
working on the pectoral musclesacross the chest it's going to
make you stronger, you're goingto feel healthier and your
breasts are going to be a lothealthier.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Yeah, you're able to engage more of those muscles
because there's this whole withthe lifting program I'm doing.
It's the mind muscle connection.
I hate hearing that, but it'strue.
If you're trying to activate amuscle, you want to think about
the muscle, you want to touchthe muscle and flex the muscle.
And if you have a sports bra onthat has you squished, you know
to, to hell and back, you'renot going to be very good at
(50:51):
activating that muscle.
It's too uncomfortable.
So, exactly like Elena's saying, you know, strengthen your core
, do pushups and plank without abra on.
Do some.
I hate pull-ups but, uh, anychest day, I really try to work
out without a bra on so that Ican fully activate.
(51:13):
It's already hard enough toactivate.
I think you're pectoralis, youknow, for women Maybe you can do
it.
But I want to get the most outof it because I want a strong
body and I want a healthy bodytop to bottom, right, yep, can I
get an?
Speaker 2 (51:31):
amen, Amen sister Amen.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Yes, okay, well, I think you know, given that this
seems like the perfect place forus to just wrap up, we hope
that you, our listeners, havefound this conversation to be
valuable.
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