June 21, 2024 • 52 mins
Could moderate sun exposure actually be good for you? What if the sun isn’t the villain it's made out to be? In this eye-opening episode of the K6 Wellness Revolution podcast, we challenge the widespread myths surrounding sun exposure and skin cancer. Learn how moderate morning sunlight can aid in vitamin D synthesis, regulate your circadian rhythms, boost your mood, and enhance your immune function. We shed light on the biases in mainstream media and big tech, and guide you through the benefits of red and near-infrared light, particularly during early morning hours.
Discover the hidden financial interests behind the global sunscreen market and conventional skin cancer treatments. We discuss alternative sun protection methods such as building a "solar callus" to develop a natural tolerance to sunlight. Understand the pitfalls of chemical-laden sunscreens and the importance of genetic testing for individual cancer susceptibility. We also address the negative effects of constant blue light exposure from screens and question the modern vilification of the sun.
Finally, we guide you through practical tips for safely enjoying the sun, from monitoring skin health using the ABCDE method to understanding the interconnectedness of good sleep, reduced anxiety, and overall better health. Explore the therapeutic benefits of sun exposure, including grounding and toxin elimination through sweating. Embrace safe sun exposure with informed decisions and proactive health measures. For more insights and resources, visit k6wellness.com. Your health is worth fighting for—so protect it wisely and bask in the sun safely!
RESOURCES FROM PODCAST DISCUSSION:
- Sun is the most sustainable source of vitamin D3 - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9131791/
- Benefits of UV radiation - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.4161/derm.20013
- Malignant degradation of scars - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7585506/#:~:text=For%20the%20last%20decades%2C%20many,to%20be%201%E2%80%932%25.
- Happy Lamps - https://verilux.com/collections/happylight-therapy-lamps-boxes
- Carcinogens in sunscreen - https://www.livescience.com/sunscreen-carcinogen-benzene.html
- Rate your sunscreen if you’re unsure on the quality of ingredients - www.ewg.org
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the K6 Wellness Revolution podcast.
My name is Sharon, I'm theowner of K6 Wellness Center in
Dallas, texas, and, along withElena, we're going to be your
host.
Today, we have decided to divedeep into the topic of skin
cancer and proper sun protection.
And is the sun really trying tokill us all?
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The world has become so scaredof the sun and its damaging
effects it has on your skin andyour body, and what the
mainstream media doesn't tellyou or doesn't want you to know
is that the sun can actually bequite healing and we don't need
to be afraid of it.
In fact, most sunscreens andlotions say they're going to
(00:41):
help prevent skin cancer ormelanoma, and actually they're
oftentimes the very things thatare contributing to skin cancer
due to the toxins and thechemicals that they have in them
.
So today we're going to talkabout this.
We're going to talk about howwonderful the sun is and how we
shouldn't really cover it up andwe shouldn't, you know, cover
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ourselves up from the sun andwhat is the best way to get
proper sun exposure andprotection without any of the
negative effects.
So there's a lot there, elena.
So this is a big thing, and ofcourse, it's June and here in,
here in Texas it's pretty warmand we see everything.
(01:28):
You know.
Put your sunscreen on and theymake kids at school put
sunscreen on before they go outto recess, and there's this
whole idea that the sun is justhigh in the sky trying to kill
us all.
And it's not actually so easy.
Sun exposure can be detrimentalat three o'clock in the
afternoon when the UV index is10 and the air quality is
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garbage.
But sun exposure at the righttime of the day and in the right
amounts can actually helpregulate your circadian rhythms.
As well as contributing to amore balanced mood.
It can help you sleep better,helps you wake up better.
Sun exposure is so far the mostsustainable solution to the
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problem of global vitamin Ddeficiency and vitamin D
deficiency I think I know for me.
I look at hundreds of labsevery month and I could probably
count on one hand the number ofpeople who are in the normal
range and even fewer people whoget into the optimal range of
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vitamin D.
So vitamin D is not somethingthat's in our food necessarily.
So vitamin D is not somethingthat's in our food necessarily.
It's something that our bodysynthesizes, mainly from
exposure to the sun and when weget that exposure is important,
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how we get that exposure isimportant, and that's I think
that's something that gets lostin the whole conversation about
here.
Take vitamin D or put sunscreenon, put sunblock on, put a hat
on.
You know all of this.
So there's more to it than that.
Morning sun is always better,more preferred, right.
Vitamin D benefits people whohave seasonal affective disorder
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or depression, which we seehigher instances of in the
Pacific Northwest of the US,where they have fewer sunshine
days, tend to have lower vitaminD levels.
Vitamin D is also a pre-hormone.
It helps in hormone synthesisand it also helps boost immune
system function.
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And they say if you are a labnerd or if you've recently had
your vitamin D levels checked,your level should be between 30
and 100.
Now, if you really want to bein the sweet spot, so to speak,
we really like to see thatbetween 50 and 80.
And if you have cancer, manytimes your functional doctor or
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functional oncologist is goingto say, hey, closer 80 to 100.
But that varies by person.
Anyway.
D3, very important.
It helps with your bonesabsorbing calcium.
So regulating bone health,heart function, immunity,
inflammation, all the things.
And, elena, that is just thetippy, tippy top right?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yes there's so many good things to be had from the
sun, but I think we'resurrounded by so many
misconceptions.
And first thing you got tothink about is when you go to
research these topics, be it foror against sun exposure what is
Google dictating that you'regoing to see?
I know what I have already readand researched and believe, but
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what does Google say?
And it's just sad to me howthere's hardly anything for the
sun.
Everything's against it.
But some of the most commonmisconceptions, I think, is that
started on the point thatpeople think the sun is out
there to kill us.
But it's not.
The sun has been in existencelong before any of us and since
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the beginning of civilization,and it doesn't always cause
cancer.
It can if you havepredispositions to that, if you
aren't taking care of your bodyor if you are literally baking
out in the sun all day long.
No one needs to do that, but itis the oldest way to absorb D3.
And we can spend all the moneywe want on supplements and
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there's a time and a place thatwe have to, if you're indoors
too much or you're working nightshift and sleeping during the
day, but we can't replace whatwe get from the sun and think
about.
You know, people lived outsidebefore they were building houses
and they weren't dying of skincancer.
It wasn't, you know, it wasn'teven a thing.
It's a modern day, man-madeproblem, if you will, because
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it's a result of all thereaction to the toxins and
oxidative stress that we'resurrounded with because we're
constantly being bombarded.
We'll get to the whole topic ofthe chemicals in sunscreen in a
minute, but think about justwhat we're breathing in the air
and drinking in our water.
And it's important to know howmuch are your genetics going to
play into your potential forcancer or not?
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How well do your genes detox?
How susceptible are you tooxidative stress?
And this is where I love and Iknow you too, we love to get
people to do genetic testing,because that will give you that
information.
You don't have to sit here andworry about it if you're making
all the right choices as far asnutrition and, you know, wise
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sun exposure.
But our favorite test, the 3x4genetic, the blueprint test it
gives you that information.
It tells you what are yourbiggest weaknesses.
Oxidative stress is, I think,one of the most common ones we
see, followed by poordetoxification.
You could have one or the otheror both, and that's going to
play into how well can youprocess the junk that you're
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being exposed to, how well canyou synthesize the goodness from
the sun and how can you enjoyit without stressing about skin
cancer.
You know, it's just, that's thebiggest misconception that it's
always going to result in skincancer and instead we have all
these other diseases because youaren't getting that immune
building D3.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, for sure.
And I think, um, all we hearfrom the, from media and Google,
because even when we're lookingup studies, like you know,
going oh yeah, we got to get ourresources on here, we can't do
it in Google Chrome becauseeverything is AI, fact checked
and so, according to GoogleChrome, like the sun is the
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worst.
I mean that couldn't haveanything to do with certain
people you know in big techwanting to shield us from this,
certain people you know in bigtech wanting to shield us from
this.
Surely right, there's nonefarious powers at play, but we
have to go to Brave browserright To get anything.
And we're not like, hey, wherekooks are us and their studies?
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I mean, we're looking for NIH,pubmed, we're wanting science
and just can't find it becauseif it doesn't fit the narrative
of the day, then it's not goingto be out there.
But I think, when we listen tothe medical world, there's a lot
that is put out there that ispartway true, but there's a lot
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that's just really wrong.
And the fact of the matter is,regarding sunlight, we need the
red light, that's, the nearinfrared radiation that we get
from the sun, versus all thecrazy blue light that we're
exposed to 24-7 from screens.
Now there is blue light in thesun.
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It's full spectrum, right, likewe get all of it.
When UV, which is your bluelight, matches the infrared or
the red light, that's in themorning time and that's when
it's perfect for our health andfor our brain and our mood.
And I always tell people lookthe best time to go out, and
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probably this doesn't matterwhere you live.
Number one if you can checkyour air or your UV index, make
sure it's not six yet, like youwant it below six.
You want the sun just off thehorizon.
That means the sun has come upand you can see the little ball
in the sky and a little spacebelow it.
That's a great time to stripdown as much as you can without
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getting a ticket or arrested orlosing friends.
Take your sunglasses, yourcontacts, your glasses off and
just enjoy the sunlight.
And, even better, you couldstand barefoot on the ground if
you can, if your grass hasn'tbeen sprayed with chemicals that
are also toxic.
(10:05):
But this is 30 minutes of.
This is really good for yourskin, it's good for your brain,
it's good for your eyeballs, andour people don't realize our
eyeballs actually play a bigrole in vitamin D synthesis, or
the making of vitamin D in ourbody.
So what do we all do though?
Oh the sun's bright, making avitamin D in our body.
(10:25):
So what do we all do though?
Oh the sun's bright, put mysunglasses on Now.
You can't just wear sunglassesfor 20 years and go.
Oh well, uh, they said I shouldtake my sunglasses off three
o'clock in the afternoon.
That's not going to end well,you're going to be miserable,
you're going to have a headache.
You have to work into it.
But one of the things too and Ihave people tell me this in one
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of the clinics that I'm in, youknow if they're an Uber driver
or they're a trucker oh, I'llget the sunlight through my
windshield.
Well, our windshields actuallyfilter the sun, the sunlight, so
we're not getting all of thehealthy benefits of the sun, and
it is this, you know, quoteunquote protective measure, but
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it's not really protecting usfrom anything.
Now, three o'clock in theafternoon, the UV index is going
to be up there, air quality isprobably going to stink too, and
that's just not a great time tostart enjoying sunlight.
Right, it's a lot hotter.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
right, it's a lot hotter, so it's not pleasant at
all for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Oh for sure.
But that's what people are madeto think.
Oh well, if you go out, you'rejust going to, you're going to
overheat and you're going tohave heat stroke and dehydration
and sunburn.
And all of a sudden, the sun isthe villain.
But it's not the villain.
The sun is not.
It's not doing anything it'snot supposed to do.
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It's our man-made problems.
It's our air pollution.
It's the concrete jungles welive in.
It's living our entire livesinside, absent of full spectrum
light that causes us to be sosensitive when we're thrown into
full on sunlight.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, that makes you wonder what is the point, or
what is the benefit invillainizing the sun and I'm one
of those people.
I think you know well, I knowyou are too, sharon.
We always say follow the money.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Oh, give me a bit of conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I'm all over it.
Well you know right.
But if you follow the money forhow much money is made in the
global sunscreen market andGoogling, just Googling this
says that the market size isvalued at 1.3 billion in 2020,
and it's expected to reach 2.4billion by 2027.
(12:43):
Wow, that is substantial thatis, and so there's a lot of
money to be made there.
But then how about the annualamount that's spent on skin
cancer and just in the UnitedStates alone, it's approximately
8.9 billion a year just forskin cancer, and I mean it's
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broken down into non-melanomaskin cancers and melanoma but
8.9 billion.
There's a lot of people whodon't want to lose that kind of
revenue.
If people knew there were moreresponsible ways to enjoy
sunshine and to actually behealthier for it, versus sicker
and sicker and driving up thosenumbers for chemicals through
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the sunscreens and chemicalsthrough cancer treatments.
You know that's a whole othertopic, but it's just shocking to
me how much money is at stakethere, and there's not a lot of
money in a homemade sunscreen oreating better food.
You know there's never money inwellness and health, there's
only money in sickness.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
For sure, and they don't.
It's always.
Don't, do this right, it's,it's not.
Oh, here are choices here's.
Here's a good choice, here's abetter choice, it's.
You have two choices die fromskin cancer or rub my sunscreen
all over your body and hopefullyyou won't die from skin cancer,
and it's silly, but there arevarious forms of sun protection,
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and so for all of you paleskinned, um fair complected, sun
phobic people out there, we'vegot information for you, but
also for dark skinned people,because people don't understand,
like you can be very, very darkand still sunburn, and they so
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dark skinned people always havelower vitamin D levels.
It takes longer because theyhave so much more melanin in
their skin.
It takes longer to absorb thesun.
The sun rays of the body canmake vitamin D3.
But we all need the sun, and sowe're going to talk about
different ways to do this,regardless of skin tone.
(14:53):
Okay, the first thing that Ithink is so interesting, and
I've always.
This is what I was taught, andI grew up in the high desert, or
I guess, just the desert inWest Texas, but there's this
idea Dr Jack Cruz is where Iheard this term but a solar
callus, and a solar callus isbasically breaking yourself into
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tolerating sunlight.
So to begin with you wouldstart with just gradual sun
exposure.
Now I have four redheaded,brown eyed daughters and we have
I get dark, I will tan, noproblem.
Two of my daughters tan verywell and two of them are very,
very fair.
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Now the way that the very faircomplected ones because I have
shared this information withthem, of course is start in the
morning.
Don't go to the water park withyour kids or your you know.
Go out for a barbecue in abikini at three in the afternoon
If you have not seen the lightof day for two years, if your
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skin has not seen the light ofday outside.
So 7.30, 8 in the morning, yeah, put that bikini on and just go
sit outside.
Hopefully it's sunny.
But even if it's not sunny,even if it's cloudy, you're
going to get some benefitbecause the UV and the near
infrared, it's all there.
So this gets our bodyacclimated to the sun and then,
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once you can deal with, you know, 30 minutes, then maybe you
move that time a little later.
Even the most fair complectedpeople now absent some sun
allergy, which you know rarelypeople get.
You can start building up yourtime and even fair skinned
people can develop a solarcallus or a natural tan or a
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base tan it goes by differentnames.
I used to call it a base tan.
What a base tan is not and,ladies, you're the worst about
this is that first really badsunburn of the season.
I mean, how many times have youheard people say well, I got to
get my first burn after I burnone time, then I'm fine, it's
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like no.
Doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I mean, you get some benefit in the end, I guess with
a tan, but how much damage didit take to get that?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I know, but really, truly, the fairer your skin, the
more important the idea of asolar callus is.
It doesn't mean, you know, youcan, if you choose, to be lily
white and that's how you want tolive your life, that's fine,
that's great.
But being able to enjoy the sunand enjoy healthy vitamin D
levels and the benefits of thatwould necessitate some time
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outside.
You know, I myself have havesaid all along, because I'm in
my midlife, I am going outlooking like I had a good time,
I'm gonna earn every line andevery gray hair, but it I think
to our culture just doesn'tappreciate a sun to look.
(18:06):
Would that be the way to put it?
I guess yeah, but it doesn'tmean you have to look leathery.
We've all seen the pictures ofthe old ladies on the beach.
They look like shoe leather.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
That is not healthy either, and we are not
advocating for that.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, yeah for sure.
But something to know aboutyour skin is once you've been in
the sun and you start to turnpink kind of doesn't matter what
time of day it is Everybodyknows that point, right Like
you've.
You've been in the sun a whileand it's like, ooh, starting to
get a little pink.
Well, that is your body tellingyou hey, we're all out of
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antioxidants over here.
Why don't you go inside now orhave a green juice or eat some
fruit or I don't know X, y, z?
But that is our body's messagetelling us it's time to do
something different.
And it is good to listen to ourbody.
If we are out of resources, weneed to go refuel, right?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, yeah, and that's a good point there.
Talking about food, all right,first you're taking a break to
get out of the sun to go get asnack.
I'm all about that at the beach, that's my, that is my trick in
and out all day long, so Ican't get cooked but I can get
my sunshine.
But when you think about thefood that most people are
putting into their bodies, youknow most people in this country
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I don't think it's going to bemost people listening to this
podcast but it is important toremember that Our food can fuel
us or break us down.
And if you aren't eating foodsthat contain antioxidants.
You know it's nutrients andcompounds that are going to
neutralize free radicals.
That's the damage that happenson ourselves.
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If you aren't eating those, youaren't giving your body a
chance, a fighting chance, toeven give you that time in the
sun.
And I know from personalexperience.
I learned this years ago, justfrom experience.
You know the times I was in thesun munching on my fruits and
veggies.
I could be in the sun a wholelot longer than you know.
Those few times it happensy'all.
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I might've grabbed Doritos orsomething and eaten the crap
food and you're just like huh,my skin doesn't look good, I
don't feel good.
Or drinking alcohol in the sun Iknow that's what people love to
do, especially when it's hotout, but you are literally
giving your body poison insteadof life and antioxidants.
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And when it comes to your skin,you can eat your way to healthy
skin and sun absorption.
And those foods are going to befruits and veggies for the most
part, because they're high inthe antioxidants.
And if you just think eatingthe rainbow we tell people to do
this for all kinds of reasons,but especially for the sun.
You can eat your way to sunprotection to a degree.
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But the foods that are high inbeta carotene are going to be
the best ones for you, andthat's going to be carrots and
sweet potatoes, leafy greens,especially spinach, butternut
squash or cantaloupe, red bellpeppers you know just to name
some of the most vibrant ones.
But you think of all thetropical fruits, too, that
people eat down by the equator,and they've got great tans,
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people who live on the equator,because they're eating so many
antioxidants.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And the sun.
When the sun is, I mean themelanin right.
The amount of pigment in theirskin is protecting them from the
harmful aspects of the sun, andthat's what people forget.
It's not about having a tan.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Right, right.
And then you know another thingthat provides protection when
you're eating those rightveggies.
It's important to eat fat withyour veggies so you can break
down and absorb all thenutrients.
And when I say fats, of courseI mean butter or olive oil,
coconut oil, beef tallow, likeall the natural sourced fats,
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all those nuts and seeds, yeah.
Yes, yes, and seeds.
I'm glad you said that, becausehow about seed oils?
Oh, not the same thing?
No, but I know I'm saying that,but that just brings to mind
that we have such anoverabundance of seed oils.
It's not the same as eatingthose nuts and seeds and getting
all the nutrients out of it,but the seed oils that are going
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to be in all things processedand packaged.
Even some quote unquote healthyfoods are full of seed oils and
that's causing more oxidativestress than anything else we
could put in our bodies.
And, once again, I hope that alot of the people who are
listening are already becomingaware of that and, if not, I
hope that a lot of the peoplewho are listening are already
becoming aware of that.
And if not, that's a greatthing to go Google, but not on
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Google.
Go to Brave.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
So you're telling me that my broccoli that I roasted,
but I roasted it in canola oilis not as good as something else
?
The canola doesn't count ashealth food.
What is this craziness?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I know, or the soybean oil, or sunflower cotton
seed all these cheap oils thatare cheap but you're going to
pay for it in the end, versus ifyou just got the high quality
avocado oil or butter.
Put an olive oil on your foodafter cooking and it's not as
good to cook with that one.
But just getting those healthyfats versus all those seed oils
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is already giving you a betterchance for optimal health in
many ways, but especially whenit comes to the sun, and that's
if you want to be enjoying thesun.
Let's eat the right foods tobegin with, because then you can
wear all the protectiveclothing and hats.
No one needs to be in the sunall day, but sometimes we want
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to be or have to be.
So, okay, know the limits ofyour skin.
Know when it's time to cover upor get under the umbrella and go
get your snack inside, get yourfruit salad or green salad.
But the simplest way is to justcover up and that's.
That's not going to be all thepolyester rash guards, you know,
those can work, but it isbetter to be wearing linen and
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cotton, all these fabrics thatyour skin can breathe with, and
typically they're going to belighter colors, Cause if you're
wearing a dark color, it doesn'tmatter what fabric you're in.
You're going to be absorbingall the heat.
So wearing a lighter skinfabric, it's just a way to enjoy
it more.
But you know, don't everdismiss a good old fashioned hat
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, pants, long shirt, becausethat's going to let you enjoy
the warmth in the sun moderately, because you'll still get some
sun through that.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, and I think you know that really speaks to you
know what we believe in istaking a balanced approach.
So I personally gave up and I'mgoing to just say, like 10
years ago I sold sunscreen.
I don't really use it much.
I've never been very good aboutsunscreen, but I never.
I just never felt like I neededit that much.
(24:58):
But we quit years ago.
We quit selling.
I was like no, no more.
When I learned differently, Ineeded to do differently and
that that is something I don't.
Ever use sunscreen.
I will not buy a skincareproduct that has sunscreen in it
.
I'm not doing it, and if itmeans that I have a few more
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lines on my face, so be it, I'lltake it.
But I really don't, and I thinkit's because of the diet,
because I stay hydrated, becauseyou can, you can protect
yourself and enjoy the benefitsof the sun and then cover up.
Like you said, absolutely Goinside for the hot part of the
day.
Some of these countries thatare hotter in nature and they
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don't use as much airconditioning as we do, or they
have this idea of the middaybreak right, or siesta in some
countries, and it is a welcomebreak from being outside in the
hot part of the year.
But let's talk a little bitabout why we don't use
sunscreens.
So we can get all messy andinsulting here.
(26:03):
But conventional sunscreens,okay, there are many, many
brands out there and we're notreally going to name names.
But you've got to look at thelabel.
And it's not that everyingredient in a sunscreen is
doing something to repelsunlight, right, they're
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emollients.
It's to condition or affect thetexture and the spreadability
of the product or how sprayableit is.
But the problem is, remember,our skin has pores, these little
bitty holes, and everything weput on our skin we absorb to
some degree.
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And so these chemicals look atthe.
If you've got sunscreen, gograb the bottle, read it.
You're absorbing all of it.
Only 4%, okay, additionally, 4%of the entire solar spectrum is
ultraviolet, and when you usesunscreen, that's all you're
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blocking.
That's it.
Uva and UVB and if you thinkabout it, you this is how I
remember it so you've got UVBrays that kind of hit the
surface and UVA I alwaysremember A goes all the way.
Uva rays go deeper, theypenetrate deeper down.
Well, when you put sunscreen onand you rub it in, can you see
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it?
No, right, why?
Because your skin absorbed it.
So when you get skin cancer oryou get a burn, it's on the
surface of your skin.
So how is a skin or a sunscreenproduct actually protecting you
from a sunburn if it's notsitting on your skin?
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I mean, puzzle me that one.
It doesn't make any sense.
Now, maybe there is somephotoprotective quality deeper
down, but what about the top ofyour skin, your epidermis?
It's going to burn.
I mean I can't.
I don't think there's anybodyout there who hasn't gotten a
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sunburn despite wearingsunscreen.
Right, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well, that's why you have to reapply, use more.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, like every time you turn around.
So it's ridiculous.
And so when you wear thesunscreen you're essentially
you're turning off your body'swarning signs, like let me just
put this sunscreen on and thenyou quit ignoring when you're
red.
I remember when I was younger Iwas like, well, I'm red, but
I've got sunscreen on, so I'mgood for another, however long.
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That's not how that works.
The skin turning pink meanstime's up.
Go inside, yeah, half time.
So let's talk about theingredients.
Now there are two kinds ofsunscreen ingredients.
You've got chemical protectantsand you've got physical
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barriers and the chemicals I'mnot going to spend a lot of time
on because they're all garbagein my opinion.
It's all said there.
Thank you, elena.
Say no more.
It's a chemical, it's notnatural and it's not something
I'm going to rub all over myskin.
Then I want to talk about thenatural barriers, because there
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are two in particular that get alot of attention and for people
who are looking for a morenatural sunscreen, they go this
direction and I didn't even knowa lot of this till a few years
ago when I just kind of, youknow, got into it a little more.
But two physical sunscreenagents that we see most of the
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time are zinc oxide and titaniumdioxide, and there's problems
with both of them.
I'm going to start with zincoxide.
Now I want to say this aboutzinc oxide it's diaper rash
ointment, right, everybodyremembered like Desitin or Gold
Bond.
It's zinc oxide.
It acts as a physical barrierand everybody's probably seen
the pictures of lifeguards thathave the zinc oxide on their
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nose and it turns white.
Okay, you have actually coveredup the skin, right?
So is the skin on the noseprotected?
Yes, but there's always a but.
It turns out that while zincoxide rubbed on a baby's butt
for diaper rash is quiteeffective as a barrier when
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exposed to sunlight so it is abarrier method, right To
protecting us from sunlightAfter two hours it becomes toxic
and it's no longer effective.
Two hours it becomes toxic andit's no longer effective.
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So how many people put zincoxide on and then in two hours
they go scrub it off?
I mean, nobody, right?
Nobody does that.
So that's a big problem withzinc oxide.
And then titanium dioxide it'sin a lot of products and turns
out like it's.
It makes things look shiny, gofigure.
But titanium dioxide studieshave shown and this is
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especially important for sprayon sunscreens that when rats
inhaled things with titaniumdioxide, they got tumors in
their lungs, and so studies showthat titanium dioxide actually
causes oxidative stress andinflammation in the lungs, and
it can accumulate actuallythroughout the whole body.
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It has been shown to break DNAstrands and cause chromosomal
damage.
So have a little birth defectpeople.
I mean that's it.
That is a risk that issubstantial, all in the name of
sun protection, right, naturalsun protection I know natural is
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not not good enough.
Um, natural it's not not goodenough.
Um, sunscreen, there was astudy that was done a couple of
years ago and 78 sunscreenproducts actually had benzene in
them.
Now there are lawsuitseverywhere over benzene.
It's a part of petroleum andit's um, it's a known carcinogen
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and that's just not somethingthat I think is very important
to rub all over our skin andthen shine some light on it,
right?
I mean, it doesn't make ithorrifying.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, it's like, and we've been doing this for a long
time.
I know people have been usingthis.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yes, yeah, and I did it.
I mean, I was guilty of it andmy mom made us do it on sunblock
forever impossible.
But to that end, I want to say,for those of you who are going,
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I can't throw out all thissunscreen.
Actually, yes, you can, and werecommend that you do.
But there is a group, theEnvironmental Working Group, and
their website is ewgorg, andthey will rate.
You can put in the name of yourproduct and even, I think, on
the phone they may have abarcode scanner.
Yuka does, I know for sure.
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Y-u-k-a, it's an app you canget on your phone, but you can
type in the name of yoursunscreen and they'll tell you
how toxic it is based on theingredient label.
So that's just helpful for youknow anyone out there kind of
wondering well, I've been usingthis.
I wonder how good or bad it is.
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Listen, we're, you know.
Make it simple.
Start this summer, if you donothing else, try to develop a
solar callus.
Try to start developing sometolerance to the sun without
burning.
That would be amazing for you,okay.
Well, let's talk about skincancer.
Okay, so we've got titaniumdioxide, that is a known
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carcinogen.
We've got benzene there areother things in there and zinc
oxide, which is very toxic aftertwo hours, apparently.
That's unfortunate.
What we're worried about, nomatter which side of the table
you sit on in the sunscreendebate is skin cancer, right,
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you've got squamous cellcarcinoma, which usually shows
up.
First is that acatonickeratosis, which are those scaly
patches and they are usuallycalled precancers, and then and
doctors will usually just likeburn those off, cut those out
Then basal cell carcinoma, whichis the most common form of
cancer, and then there'smelanoma, which is the deadliest
form of skin cancer, and eachof these, depending on who you
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listen to, can be problematic.
Is it all because of the sun?
No, I stand with Elena on this.
I agree with you.
I think how much it's.
I mean, look at the wordantioxidant, anti against
oxidant.
What is the oxidant?
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It's that oxidative stress orrust.
Don't be a rusty nail.
So yeah, cancer it's not that,even if it's in your family
history, it doesn't mean that'syour destiny.
And just an important littlenote here I think people always
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question like, hey, if you have,if you had cancer, what would
you do?
And I get people who ask methat a lot and I always say,
well, it depends on the cancerthere.
If you've got an acatonickeratosis and you can scrape
that puppy off and be done withit, I think that's a great idea.
You know, in general, this isnot speaking, this is not
medical advice but withmelanomas, the idea that we're
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going to get a melanoma if we'rein the sun, because melanomas
can metastasize and when theyget to your brain it can be very
, very deadly brain, it can bevery, very deadly.
But there are so many studiesthat show that melanoma is not
from the sun.
There are a lot of other things.
My son-in-law had a kneesurgery as a teenager.
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Then, as an adult in histwenties, he developed a
melanoma on the scar where hehad a bone graft done and it was
not.
It was on his leg, not in aplace where it was always
exposed to the sun.
It wasn't from sun damage.
And if you look at it on Bravenot on Google Chrome you may
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find a lot of scars actuallywill grow melanomas.
And why is that, elena?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Scars, love toxins, whoa, it's like a breeding
ground for toxicity andoxidation.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yes, so scars can become real knobby or ropey or
they can develop keloids.
They can be very fibrous andmany times there are toxins in
there and it's been shown thatmelanomas will grow at sites of
trauma.
And that's just something topay attention to.
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The nice thing about thesquamous cell and the basal cell
is a lot of times those can beexcised and then that's it.
You're done.
But it's important to payattention to your skin.
Whether you're a sun lover orsun phobic, we should always be
checking our skin right.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Right, always be checking your skin and, once
again, always be checking yourdiet and your nutrition, because
we've talked about some of thefoods you can eat to be eating
the rainbow but you know thereare certain supplements, because
there is a time and a place tojust get the nutrition from your
food, and there's other timesto take the supplements and
specific ones for your skin.
Those are going to be likeastaxanthin, vitamin C,
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quercetin, cocutin.
I mean those four, right, thereare the foundation for good,
healthy skin, let alone whatyou're going to be eating, and
that's important for people whoare trying to just enjoy sun,
prevent cancer, people who hadcancer, people who do have it.
Those antioxidants are going tobring the protection to your
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skin and your cells from insideout.
But, you know, in addition tothat, though, it's just
important to balance your sunexposure without like balance it
without the worries and I thinkthe modern way we live it's,
you know, even if you aren'tafraid of the sun, we just don't
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have the opportunity to be inthe sun as much.
So, if you are pro-sun versussun phobic and want to be in the
sun, okay, just carve out acouple of days a week where you
can go outside and get that sun,get that gradual exposure, get
your sun charge.
I have to get mine at leastevery weekend, working
throughout the week.
You can't get it, but it's likeI got to go get my solar charge
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and it just makes you feelalive.
So you know, getting thatgradual exposure, getting that
callus, that solar callus, isgoing to be a great way to just
continue to enjoy the sun forwhat it's there for.
But you know, talking also aboutways to just prevent and
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identify and take care of ourbodies and our skin.
We get asked a lot ifthermography can identify skin
cancer, because thermography isone of our favorite tools here
at K6 Wellness, if you're local.
It's one of our favoritetesting methods.
But unfortunately it is notgreat for skin.
It's going to tell us about howyour organs are working on a
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cellular level and that willtell us a lot about oxidation or
detoxification, how well youare or aren't doing that.
But it just isn't the best forskin.
For skin, you've got to learnwhat is it?
Your ABCs, yes.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yes, and while thermography it's not, and we
don't use it as a specificdiagnostic tool for anything.
Now, skin is one of thosethings like you can visually
tell if something's going onwith the skin and it, but it's
not specific but it is going toshow right those underlying.
Hey, your nervous system's notdoing this or your gut's doing
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this, or you're more prone tothis.
We can see that.
But yeah, the ABCs man, youcannot beat that for paying
attention.
So this is something I thinkit's really important we should
all know.
And it's A, b, c, d and E.
Okay, learn this in nursingschool and learn it.
I think we learned it incollege or I don't know if they
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teach it in high school.
My daughter learned it inesthetician school.
But A is for asymmetry.
So if you're looking at a moleor a spot on your skin anywhere,
asymmetry is a lack of symmetry.
So it means one half of themole looks different than the
other half.
Ideally, in a healthy or benignmole, it's going to be the same
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on both sides.
It would be symmetrical.
So if it's asymmetric, that's acaution.
B stands for border.
So does the mole have an evenoutline or is it ragged?
Is it an irregular border,blurred edge, uneven outline.
It could be even notched alittle bit and the coloring
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could even like bleed off of themole into the surrounding skin.
That would be something to payattention to.
So we have asymmetry, irregularborder, and then the color.
And I think most peopleprobably know the color change
in melanoma more than any otherone, because melanoma is going
to have that brownish blackappearance.
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Those can be a little scary,but basal cell carcinomas and
even squamous cell could be pink.
Basal cell carcinomas and evensquamous cell could be pink,
like basal cells could have apink waxy appearance and then
squamous cell could usuallybleed real easily.
But you have to look at it.
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What did it look like lastmonth?
Does it look the same?
Has it grown?
Is the color changing?
Because if the color ischanging or the color is weird
all of a sudden, that's acaution Diameter.
So diameter is how far acrossthe center of the mole.
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If a mole is growing in size,that's something to pay
attention to and the rule ofthumb is especially for
melanomas if it's larger thanthe eraser of a pencil, you
should get it checked out,because melanomas are usually
bigger, like that, fivemillimeters, I think, is.
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So get your you know a littlemeasuring tape out or go grab a
pencil and compare it to youryour dark spot and see if.
See if you need to go get thatchecked.
And then evolution so we had Aasymmetry, b, irregular borders,
c is the color, d is diameterand E is evolution and it just
means is your mold changing insize or color over time?
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These are things that you canask yourself to help determine.
Am I okay?
Do I need to go get checked?
But I hope that helps.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yeah Well, you do have to pay attention to your
skin.
Be wise, be smart.
Don't ignore something thatcould be caught early on.
But also remember the sun.
Sun can heal you too.
Let's not forget the vitamin D,we all know that.
But also, if you're outside oron the beach, you're getting
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grounding, You're getting thecharge from the earth, and that
helps to neutralize toxins andto get the sunshine, the air,
the grounding.
That's the basics right there.
But the sun also.
It cleanses our skin.
Think about when you've had agood tan.
You look so healthy and vibrantand younger, as long as you're
taking care to not get allleathery because you didn't
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moisturize properly afterwardsor hydrate you have to hydrate.
But you know, the sunshine alsoencourages sweat, and that's the
same as just getting the freshair.
People don't do it enoughanymore.
People don't sweat enough.
We sit inside with our airconditioned houses and our comfy
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couches.
We aren't sweating.
I get in my sauna every day, inaddition to getting out into
the sunshine when I can, becausewhen you sweat you are
literally emptying out thetoxins in your body.
It's just one of the simplestways to detox.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
And I think it's important to remember your skin
is your largest organ ofelimination, right?
That makes it super importantfor taking out the trash.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, and it helps your lymphatic system because if
you're sweating it out, thelymph isn't having to go through
and clean it all up throughyour digestive tract.
You know, or you know, itdoesn't replace lymphatic
therapy Hear me there or takingcare of your lymph at home, but
just sweating.
We need to sweat more.
But then there's also some, youknow, specific conditions that
are alleviated by sunlightexposure.
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That's depression and anxiety,and one of the biggest things is
because we're getting thatserotonin from the sunshine and
then we have more melatonin tosleep at night.
So our entire circadian rhythmis being reinforced and you have
more energy because you'resleeping better.
You have less anxiety becauseyou're sleeping better.
You have less depressionbecause you're sleeping better.
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Nothing replaces sleep either.
We've talked about sleep a lot.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
I am telling you our first retreat on the place that
shall be someday.
For us.
We are going to do a two-weeksleep retreat and I want
problematic sleepers because Iam convinced that all of these
low tech bio hacks that you'retalking about going outside
(46:37):
putting your feet on the ground,that is all so important
Without shoes.
Yeah, without shoes.
Yeah, I mean, that's so centraland we all wear shoes and
nobody goes outside and nobodygoes outside barefoot.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, yeah.
And so getting that sunshine,you're going to also have just
better health overall.
You're going to have lessinflammation.
You're going to have better guthealth.
You know the bad microbes don'tlike the sunlight.
We use UV lights to sterilize.
You know utensils or tools.
Think about what it's doing toyour body when it's penetrating
through your skin and I think wesee more gut issues than about
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anything else, becauseeverything goes back to the gut,
but just keeping thatinflammation down and getting
the natural steroids from the D3.
So get the sun exposure you can.
When you can Be smart about it,be careful, but enjoy it.
And if you live somewhere inthe can, be smart about it, be
careful, but enjoy it.
And if you live somewhere inthe world or it's a certain time
of year not right now, it'swhat June, we've got plenty of
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sunshine but if you're somewherewhere you can't get enough,
take your D3, but also look athappy lamps.
They're great little tools thatjust give you that glow of the
sun and it literally makes youhappy.
We've used this for people whohave seasonal depression and it
just helps you get by.
And some people can't toleratethe heat of the sun.
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That's a whole other caveat,but it's not most of us.
But there is.
I don't know the link to it.
We'll include it in our notes,in our podcast notes, where you
could look for those.
But you could also just searchonline.
But that's a great way to getto some of the vibrance from the
sun.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah, especially for older people who just aren't
going to go outside very much,you can sit by your happy lamp
and read.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
And you won't get dehydrated.
You know if dehydration is abig concern as well, yeah, Happy
lamp.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Well, I think this was a good discussion.
This is probably just the rightplace to wrap it up, I think
personally.
For me, getting outside in thesun an hour a day is my happy
spot.
Now, everybody's going to be alittle different.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
And.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
I hope that everyone takes something from this to say
, okay, I'm going to give this atry, but but be smart about it,
because we're definitely notadvocating for nonsensical,
careless going out in the sunwith no regard for safety, Cause
that's not what this is about.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
We want you to take care of your health.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
We want you to have healthy skin and healthy organs
all the way around.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah.
So this summer, let's continueto find alternative ways to
increase sun exposure and not beafraid of the sun any longer.
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is worth fighting for.
Welcome to the K6 Wellness Revolution podcast.
My name is Sharon, I'm theowner of K6 Wellness Center in
Dallas, texas, and, along withElena, we're going to be your
host.
Today, we have decided to divedeep into the topic of skin
cancer and proper sun protection.
And is the sun really trying tokill us all?
(00:20):
The world has become so scaredof the sun and its damaging
effects it has on your skin andyour body, and what the
mainstream media doesn't tellyou or doesn't want you to know
is that the sun can actually bequite healing and we don't need
to be afraid of it.
In fact, most sunscreens andlotions say they're going to
(00:41):
help prevent skin cancer ormelanoma, and actually they're
oftentimes the very things thatare contributing to skin cancer
due to the toxins and thechemicals that they have in them
.
So today we're going to talkabout this.
We're going to talk about howwonderful the sun is and how we
shouldn't really cover it up andwe shouldn't, you know, cover
(01:04):
ourselves up from the sun andwhat is the best way to get
proper sun exposure andprotection without any of the
negative effects.
So there's a lot there, elena.
So this is a big thing, and ofcourse, it's June and here in,
here in Texas it's pretty warmand we see everything.
(01:28):
You know.
Put your sunscreen on and theymake kids at school put
sunscreen on before they go outto recess, and there's this
whole idea that the sun is justhigh in the sky trying to kill
us all.
And it's not actually so easy.
Sun exposure can be detrimentalat three o'clock in the
afternoon when the UV index is10 and the air quality is
(01:52):
garbage.
But sun exposure at the righttime of the day and in the right
amounts can actually helpregulate your circadian rhythms.
As well as contributing to amore balanced mood.
It can help you sleep better,helps you wake up better.
Sun exposure is so far the mostsustainable solution to the
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problem of global vitamin Ddeficiency and vitamin D
deficiency I think I know for me.
I look at hundreds of labsevery month and I could probably
count on one hand the number ofpeople who are in the normal
range and even fewer people whoget into the optimal range of
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vitamin D.
So vitamin D is not somethingthat's in our food necessarily.
So vitamin D is not somethingthat's in our food necessarily.
It's something that our bodysynthesizes, mainly from
exposure to the sun and when weget that exposure is important,
(03:00):
how we get that exposure isimportant, and that's I think
that's something that gets lostin the whole conversation about
here.
Take vitamin D or put sunscreenon, put sunblock on, put a hat
on.
You know all of this.
So there's more to it than that.
Morning sun is always better,more preferred, right.
Vitamin D benefits people whohave seasonal affective disorder
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or depression, which we seehigher instances of in the
Pacific Northwest of the US,where they have fewer sunshine
days, tend to have lower vitaminD levels.
Vitamin D is also a pre-hormone.
It helps in hormone synthesisand it also helps boost immune
system function.
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And they say if you are a labnerd or if you've recently had
your vitamin D levels checked,your level should be between 30
and 100.
Now, if you really want to bein the sweet spot, so to speak,
we really like to see thatbetween 50 and 80.
And if you have cancer, manytimes your functional doctor or
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functional oncologist is goingto say, hey, closer 80 to 100.
But that varies by person.
Anyway.
D3, very important.
It helps with your bonesabsorbing calcium.
So regulating bone health,heart function, immunity,
inflammation, all the things.
And, elena, that is just thetippy, tippy top right?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yes there's so many good things to be had from the
sun, but I think we'resurrounded by so many
misconceptions.
And first thing you got tothink about is when you go to
research these topics, be it foror against sun exposure what is
Google dictating that you'regoing to see?
I know what I have already readand researched and believe, but
(05:00):
what does Google say?
And it's just sad to me howthere's hardly anything for the
sun.
Everything's against it.
But some of the most commonmisconceptions, I think, is that
started on the point thatpeople think the sun is out
there to kill us.
But it's not.
The sun has been in existencelong before any of us and since
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the beginning of civilization,and it doesn't always cause
cancer.
It can if you havepredispositions to that, if you
aren't taking care of your bodyor if you are literally baking
out in the sun all day long.
No one needs to do that, but itis the oldest way to absorb D3.
And we can spend all the moneywe want on supplements and
(05:43):
there's a time and a place thatwe have to, if you're indoors
too much or you're working nightshift and sleeping during the
day, but we can't replace whatwe get from the sun and think
about.
You know, people lived outsidebefore they were building houses
and they weren't dying of skincancer.
It wasn't, you know, it wasn'teven a thing.
It's a modern day, man-madeproblem, if you will, because
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it's a result of all thereaction to the toxins and
oxidative stress that we'resurrounded with because we're
constantly being bombarded.
We'll get to the whole topic ofthe chemicals in sunscreen in a
minute, but think about justwhat we're breathing in the air
and drinking in our water.
And it's important to know howmuch are your genetics going to
play into your potential forcancer or not?
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How well do your genes detox?
How susceptible are you tooxidative stress?
And this is where I love and Iknow you too, we love to get
people to do genetic testing,because that will give you that
information.
You don't have to sit here andworry about it if you're making
all the right choices as far asnutrition and, you know, wise
(06:51):
sun exposure.
But our favorite test, the 3x4genetic, the blueprint test it
gives you that information.
It tells you what are yourbiggest weaknesses.
Oxidative stress is, I think,one of the most common ones we
see, followed by poordetoxification.
You could have one or the otheror both, and that's going to
play into how well can youprocess the junk that you're
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being exposed to, how well canyou synthesize the goodness from
the sun and how can you enjoyit without stressing about skin
cancer.
You know, it's just, that's thebiggest misconception that it's
always going to result in skincancer and instead we have all
these other diseases because youaren't getting that immune
building D3.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, for sure.
And I think, um, all we hearfrom the, from media and Google,
because even when we're lookingup studies, like you know,
going oh yeah, we got to get ourresources on here, we can't do
it in Google Chrome becauseeverything is AI, fact checked
and so, according to GoogleChrome, like the sun is the
(07:56):
worst.
I mean that couldn't haveanything to do with certain
people you know in big techwanting to shield us from this,
certain people you know in bigtech wanting to shield us from
this.
Surely right, there's nonefarious powers at play, but we
have to go to Brave browserright To get anything.
And we're not like, hey, wherekooks are us and their studies?
(08:18):
I mean, we're looking for NIH,pubmed, we're wanting science
and just can't find it becauseif it doesn't fit the narrative
of the day, then it's not goingto be out there.
But I think, when we listen tothe medical world, there's a lot
that is put out there that ispartway true, but there's a lot
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that's just really wrong.
And the fact of the matter is,regarding sunlight, we need the
red light, that's, the nearinfrared radiation that we get
from the sun, versus all thecrazy blue light that we're
exposed to 24-7 from screens.
Now there is blue light in thesun.
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It's full spectrum, right, likewe get all of it.
When UV, which is your bluelight, matches the infrared or
the red light, that's in themorning time and that's when
it's perfect for our health andfor our brain and our mood.
And I always tell people lookthe best time to go out, and
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probably this doesn't matterwhere you live.
Number one if you can checkyour air or your UV index, make
sure it's not six yet, like youwant it below six.
You want the sun just off thehorizon.
That means the sun has come upand you can see the little ball
in the sky and a little spacebelow it.
That's a great time to stripdown as much as you can without
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getting a ticket or arrested orlosing friends.
Take your sunglasses, yourcontacts, your glasses off and
just enjoy the sunlight.
And, even better, you couldstand barefoot on the ground if
you can, if your grass hasn'tbeen sprayed with chemicals that
are also toxic.
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But this is 30 minutes of.
This is really good for yourskin, it's good for your brain,
it's good for your eyeballs, andour people don't realize our
eyeballs actually play a bigrole in vitamin D synthesis, or
the making of vitamin D in ourbody.
So what do we all do though?
Oh the sun's bright, making avitamin D in our body.
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So what do we all do though?
Oh the sun's bright, put mysunglasses on Now.
You can't just wear sunglassesfor 20 years and go.
Oh well, uh, they said I shouldtake my sunglasses off three
o'clock in the afternoon.
That's not going to end well,you're going to be miserable,
you're going to have a headache.
You have to work into it.
But one of the things too and Ihave people tell me this in one
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of the clinics that I'm in, youknow if they're an Uber driver
or they're a trucker oh, I'llget the sunlight through my
windshield.
Well, our windshields actuallyfilter the sun, the sunlight, so
we're not getting all of thehealthy benefits of the sun, and
it is this, you know, quoteunquote protective measure, but
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it's not really protecting usfrom anything.
Now, three o'clock in theafternoon, the UV index is going
to be up there, air quality isprobably going to stink too, and
that's just not a great time tostart enjoying sunlight.
Right, it's a lot hotter.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
right, it's a lot hotter, so it's not pleasant at
all for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Oh for sure.
But that's what people are madeto think.
Oh well, if you go out, you'rejust going to, you're going to
overheat and you're going tohave heat stroke and dehydration
and sunburn.
And all of a sudden, the sun isthe villain.
But it's not the villain.
The sun is not.
It's not doing anything it'snot supposed to do.
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It's our man-made problems.
It's our air pollution.
It's the concrete jungles welive in.
It's living our entire livesinside, absent of full spectrum
light that causes us to be sosensitive when we're thrown into
full on sunlight.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, that makes you wonder what is the point, or
what is the benefit invillainizing the sun and I'm one
of those people.
I think you know well, I knowyou are too, sharon.
We always say follow the money.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Oh, give me a bit of conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I'm all over it.
Well you know right.
But if you follow the money forhow much money is made in the
global sunscreen market andGoogling, just Googling this
says that the market size isvalued at 1.3 billion in 2020,
and it's expected to reach 2.4billion by 2027.
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Wow, that is substantial thatis, and so there's a lot of
money to be made there.
But then how about the annualamount that's spent on skin
cancer and just in the UnitedStates alone, it's approximately
8.9 billion a year just forskin cancer, and I mean it's
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broken down into non-melanomaskin cancers and melanoma but
8.9 billion.
There's a lot of people whodon't want to lose that kind of
revenue.
If people knew there were moreresponsible ways to enjoy
sunshine and to actually behealthier for it, versus sicker
and sicker and driving up thosenumbers for chemicals through
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the sunscreens and chemicalsthrough cancer treatments.
You know that's a whole othertopic, but it's just shocking to
me how much money is at stakethere, and there's not a lot of
money in a homemade sunscreen oreating better food.
You know there's never money inwellness and health, there's
only money in sickness.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
For sure, and they don't.
It's always.
Don't, do this right, it's,it's not.
Oh, here are choices here's.
Here's a good choice, here's abetter choice, it's.
You have two choices die fromskin cancer or rub my sunscreen
all over your body and hopefullyyou won't die from skin cancer,
and it's silly, but there arevarious forms of sun protection,
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and so for all of you paleskinned, um fair complected, sun
phobic people out there, we'vegot information for you, but
also for dark skinned people,because people don't understand,
like you can be very, very darkand still sunburn, and they so
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dark skinned people always havelower vitamin D levels.
It takes longer because theyhave so much more melanin in
their skin.
It takes longer to absorb thesun.
The sun rays of the body canmake vitamin D3.
But we all need the sun, and sowe're going to talk about
different ways to do this,regardless of skin tone.
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Okay, the first thing that Ithink is so interesting, and
I've always.
This is what I was taught, andI grew up in the high desert, or
I guess, just the desert inWest Texas, but there's this
idea Dr Jack Cruz is where Iheard this term but a solar
callus, and a solar callus isbasically breaking yourself into
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tolerating sunlight.
So to begin with you wouldstart with just gradual sun
exposure.
Now I have four redheaded,brown eyed daughters and we have
I get dark, I will tan, noproblem.
Two of my daughters tan verywell and two of them are very,
very fair.
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Now the way that the very faircomplected ones because I have
shared this information withthem, of course is start in the
morning.
Don't go to the water park withyour kids or your you know.
Go out for a barbecue in abikini at three in the afternoon
If you have not seen the lightof day for two years, if your
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skin has not seen the light ofday outside.
So 7.30, 8 in the morning, yeah, put that bikini on and just go
sit outside.
Hopefully it's sunny.
But even if it's not sunny,even if it's cloudy, you're
going to get some benefitbecause the UV and the near
infrared, it's all there.
So this gets our bodyacclimated to the sun and then,
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once you can deal with, you know, 30 minutes, then maybe you
move that time a little later.
Even the most fair complectedpeople now absent some sun
allergy, which you know rarelypeople get.
You can start building up yourtime and even fair skinned
people can develop a solarcallus or a natural tan or a
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base tan it goes by differentnames.
I used to call it a base tan.
What a base tan is not and,ladies, you're the worst about
this is that first really badsunburn of the season.
I mean, how many times have youheard people say well, I got to
get my first burn after I burnone time, then I'm fine, it's
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like no.
Doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I mean, you get some benefit in the end, I guess with
a tan, but how much damage didit take to get that?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I know, but really, truly, the fairer your skin, the
more important the idea of asolar callus is.
It doesn't mean, you know, youcan, if you choose, to be lily
white and that's how you want tolive your life, that's fine,
that's great.
But being able to enjoy the sunand enjoy healthy vitamin D
levels and the benefits of thatwould necessitate some time
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outside.
You know, I myself have havesaid all along, because I'm in
my midlife, I am going outlooking like I had a good time,
I'm gonna earn every line andevery gray hair, but it I think
to our culture just doesn'tappreciate a sun to look.
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Would that be the way to put it?
I guess yeah, but it doesn'tmean you have to look leathery.
We've all seen the pictures ofthe old ladies on the beach.
They look like shoe leather.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
That is not healthy either, and we are not
advocating for that.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, yeah for sure.
But something to know aboutyour skin is once you've been in
the sun and you start to turnpink kind of doesn't matter what
time of day it is Everybodyknows that point, right Like
you've.
You've been in the sun a whileand it's like, ooh, starting to
get a little pink.
Well, that is your body tellingyou hey, we're all out of
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antioxidants over here.
Why don't you go inside now orhave a green juice or eat some
fruit or I don't know X, y, z?
But that is our body's messagetelling us it's time to do
something different.
And it is good to listen to ourbody.
If we are out of resources, weneed to go refuel, right?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, yeah, and that's a good point there.
Talking about food, all right,first you're taking a break to
get out of the sun to go get asnack.
I'm all about that at the beach, that's my, that is my trick in
and out all day long, so Ican't get cooked but I can get
my sunshine.
But when you think about thefood that most people are
putting into their bodies, youknow most people in this country
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I don't think it's going to bemost people listening to this
podcast but it is important toremember that Our food can fuel
us or break us down.
And if you aren't eating foodsthat contain antioxidants.
You know it's nutrients andcompounds that are going to
neutralize free radicals.
That's the damage that happenson ourselves.
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If you aren't eating those, youaren't giving your body a
chance, a fighting chance, toeven give you that time in the
sun.
And I know from personalexperience.
I learned this years ago, justfrom experience.
You know the times I was in thesun munching on my fruits and
veggies.
I could be in the sun a wholelot longer than you know.
Those few times it happensy'all.
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I might've grabbed Doritos orsomething and eaten the crap
food and you're just like huh,my skin doesn't look good, I
don't feel good.
Or drinking alcohol in the sun Iknow that's what people love to
do, especially when it's hotout, but you are literally
giving your body poison insteadof life and antioxidants.
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And when it comes to your skin,you can eat your way to healthy
skin and sun absorption.
And those foods are going to befruits and veggies for the most
part, because they're high inthe antioxidants.
And if you just think eatingthe rainbow we tell people to do
this for all kinds of reasons,but especially for the sun.
You can eat your way to sunprotection to a degree.
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But the foods that are high inbeta carotene are going to be
the best ones for you, andthat's going to be carrots and
sweet potatoes, leafy greens,especially spinach, butternut
squash or cantaloupe, red bellpeppers you know just to name
some of the most vibrant ones.
But you think of all thetropical fruits, too, that
people eat down by the equator,and they've got great tans,
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people who live on the equator,because they're eating so many
antioxidants.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And the sun.
When the sun is, I mean themelanin right.
The amount of pigment in theirskin is protecting them from the
harmful aspects of the sun, andthat's what people forget.
It's not about having a tan.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Right, right.
And then you know another thingthat provides protection when
you're eating those rightveggies.
It's important to eat fat withyour veggies so you can break
down and absorb all thenutrients.
And when I say fats, of courseI mean butter or olive oil,
coconut oil, beef tallow, likeall the natural sourced fats,
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all those nuts and seeds, yeah.
Yes, yes, and seeds.
I'm glad you said that, becausehow about seed oils?
Oh, not the same thing?
No, but I know I'm saying that,but that just brings to mind
that we have such anoverabundance of seed oils.
It's not the same as eatingthose nuts and seeds and getting
all the nutrients out of it,but the seed oils that are going
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to be in all things processedand packaged.
Even some quote unquote healthyfoods are full of seed oils and
that's causing more oxidativestress than anything else we
could put in our bodies.
And, once again, I hope that alot of the people who are
listening are already becomingaware of that and, if not, I
hope that a lot of the peoplewho are listening are already
becoming aware of that.
And if not, that's a greatthing to go Google, but not on
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Google.
Go to Brave.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
So you're telling me that my broccoli that I roasted,
but I roasted it in canola oilis not as good as something else
?
The canola doesn't count ashealth food.
What is this craziness?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I know, or the soybean oil, or sunflower cotton
seed all these cheap oils thatare cheap but you're going to
pay for it in the end, versus ifyou just got the high quality
avocado oil or butter.
Put an olive oil on your foodafter cooking and it's not as
good to cook with that one.
But just getting those healthyfats versus all those seed oils
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is already giving you a betterchance for optimal health in
many ways, but especially whenit comes to the sun, and that's
if you want to be enjoying thesun.
Let's eat the right foods tobegin with, because then you can
wear all the protectiveclothing and hats.
No one needs to be in the sunall day, but sometimes we want
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to be or have to be.
So, okay, know the limits ofyour skin.
Know when it's time to cover upor get under the umbrella and go
get your snack inside, get yourfruit salad or green salad.
But the simplest way is to justcover up and that's.
That's not going to be all thepolyester rash guards, you know,
those can work, but it isbetter to be wearing linen and
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cotton, all these fabrics thatyour skin can breathe with, and
typically they're going to belighter colors, Cause if you're
wearing a dark color, it doesn'tmatter what fabric you're in.
You're going to be absorbingall the heat.
So wearing a lighter skinfabric, it's just a way to enjoy
it more.
But you know, don't everdismiss a good old fashioned hat
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, pants, long shirt, becausethat's going to let you enjoy
the warmth in the sun moderately, because you'll still get some
sun through that.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, and I think you know that really speaks to you
know what we believe in istaking a balanced approach.
So I personally gave up and I'mgoing to just say, like 10
years ago I sold sunscreen.
I don't really use it much.
I've never been very good aboutsunscreen, but I never.
I just never felt like I neededit that much.
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But we quit years ago.
We quit selling.
I was like no, no more.
When I learned differently, Ineeded to do differently and
that that is something I don't.
Ever use sunscreen.
I will not buy a skincareproduct that has sunscreen in it
.
I'm not doing it, and if itmeans that I have a few more
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lines on my face, so be it, I'lltake it.
But I really don't, and I thinkit's because of the diet,
because I stay hydrated, becauseyou can, you can protect
yourself and enjoy the benefitsof the sun and then cover up.
Like you said, absolutely Goinside for the hot part of the
day.
Some of these countries thatare hotter in nature and they
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don't use as much airconditioning as we do, or they
have this idea of the middaybreak right, or siesta in some
countries, and it is a welcomebreak from being outside in the
hot part of the year.
But let's talk a little bitabout why we don't use
sunscreens.
So we can get all messy andinsulting here.
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But conventional sunscreens,okay, there are many, many
brands out there and we're notreally going to name names.
But you've got to look at thelabel.
And it's not that everyingredient in a sunscreen is
doing something to repelsunlight, right, they're
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emollients.
It's to condition or affect thetexture and the spreadability
of the product or how sprayableit is.
But the problem is, remember,our skin has pores, these little
bitty holes, and everything weput on our skin we absorb to
some degree.
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And so these chemicals look atthe.
If you've got sunscreen, gograb the bottle, read it.
You're absorbing all of it.
Only 4%, okay, additionally, 4%of the entire solar spectrum is
ultraviolet, and when you usesunscreen, that's all you're
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blocking.
That's it.
Uva and UVB and if you thinkabout it, you this is how I
remember it so you've got UVBrays that kind of hit the
surface and UVA I alwaysremember A goes all the way.
Uva rays go deeper, theypenetrate deeper down.
Well, when you put sunscreen onand you rub it in, can you see
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it?
No, right, why?
Because your skin absorbed it.
So when you get skin cancer oryou get a burn, it's on the
surface of your skin.
So how is a skin or a sunscreenproduct actually protecting you
from a sunburn if it's notsitting on your skin?
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I mean, puzzle me that one.
It doesn't make any sense.
Now, maybe there is somephotoprotective quality deeper
down, but what about the top ofyour skin, your epidermis?
It's going to burn.
I mean I can't.
I don't think there's anybodyout there who hasn't gotten a
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sunburn despite wearingsunscreen.
Right, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well, that's why you have to reapply, use more.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, like every time you turn around.
So it's ridiculous.
And so when you wear thesunscreen you're essentially
you're turning off your body'swarning signs, like let me just
put this sunscreen on and thenyou quit ignoring when you're
red.
I remember when I was younger Iwas like, well, I'm red, but
I've got sunscreen on, so I'mgood for another, however long.
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That's not how that works.
The skin turning pink meanstime's up.
Go inside, yeah, half time.
So let's talk about theingredients.
Now there are two kinds ofsunscreen ingredients.
You've got chemical protectantsand you've got physical
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barriers and the chemicals I'mnot going to spend a lot of time
on because they're all garbagein my opinion.
It's all said there.
Thank you, elena.
Say no more.
It's a chemical, it's notnatural and it's not something
I'm going to rub all over myskin.
Then I want to talk about thenatural barriers, because there
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are two in particular that get alot of attention and for people
who are looking for a morenatural sunscreen, they go this
direction and I didn't even knowa lot of this till a few years
ago when I just kind of, youknow, got into it a little more.
But two physical sunscreenagents that we see most of the
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time are zinc oxide and titaniumdioxide, and there's problems
with both of them.
I'm going to start with zincoxide.
Now I want to say this aboutzinc oxide it's diaper rash
ointment, right, everybodyremembered like Desitin or Gold
Bond.
It's zinc oxide.
It acts as a physical barrierand everybody's probably seen
the pictures of lifeguards thathave the zinc oxide on their
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nose and it turns white.
Okay, you have actually coveredup the skin, right?
So is the skin on the noseprotected?
Yes, but there's always a but.
It turns out that while zincoxide rubbed on a baby's butt
for diaper rash is quiteeffective as a barrier when
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exposed to sunlight so it is abarrier method, right To
protecting us from sunlightAfter two hours it becomes toxic
and it's no longer effective.
Two hours it becomes toxic andit's no longer effective.
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So how many people put zincoxide on and then in two hours
they go scrub it off?
I mean, nobody, right?
Nobody does that.
So that's a big problem withzinc oxide.
And then titanium dioxide it'sin a lot of products and turns
out like it's.
It makes things look shiny, gofigure.
But titanium dioxide studieshave shown and this is
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especially important for sprayon sunscreens that when rats
inhaled things with titaniumdioxide, they got tumors in
their lungs, and so studies showthat titanium dioxide actually
causes oxidative stress andinflammation in the lungs, and
it can accumulate actuallythroughout the whole body.
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It has been shown to break DNAstrands and cause chromosomal
damage.
So have a little birth defectpeople.
I mean that's it.
That is a risk that issubstantial, all in the name of
sun protection, right, naturalsun protection I know natural is
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not not good enough.
Um, natural it's not not goodenough.
Um, sunscreen, there was astudy that was done a couple of
years ago and 78 sunscreenproducts actually had benzene in
them.
Now there are lawsuitseverywhere over benzene.
It's a part of petroleum andit's um, it's a known carcinogen
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and that's just not somethingthat I think is very important
to rub all over our skin andthen shine some light on it,
right?
I mean, it doesn't make ithorrifying.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, it's like, and we've been doing this for a long
time.
I know people have been usingthis.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yes, yeah, and I did it.
I mean, I was guilty of it andmy mom made us do it on sunblock
forever impossible.
But to that end, I want to say,for those of you who are going,
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I can't throw out all thissunscreen.
Actually, yes, you can, and werecommend that you do.
But there is a group, theEnvironmental Working Group, and
their website is ewgorg, andthey will rate.
You can put in the name of yourproduct and even, I think, on
the phone they may have abarcode scanner.
Yuka does, I know for sure.
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Y-u-k-a, it's an app you canget on your phone, but you can
type in the name of yoursunscreen and they'll tell you
how toxic it is based on theingredient label.
So that's just helpful for youknow anyone out there kind of
wondering well, I've been usingthis.
I wonder how good or bad it is.
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Listen, we're, you know.
Make it simple.
Start this summer, if you donothing else, try to develop a
solar callus.
Try to start developing sometolerance to the sun without
burning.
That would be amazing for you,okay.
Well, let's talk about skincancer.
Okay, so we've got titaniumdioxide, that is a known
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carcinogen.
We've got benzene there areother things in there and zinc
oxide, which is very toxic aftertwo hours, apparently.
That's unfortunate.
What we're worried about, nomatter which side of the table
you sit on in the sunscreendebate is skin cancer, right,
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you've got squamous cellcarcinoma, which usually shows
up.
First is that acatonickeratosis, which are those scaly
patches and they are usuallycalled precancers, and then and
doctors will usually just likeburn those off, cut those out
Then basal cell carcinoma, whichis the most common form of
cancer, and then there'smelanoma, which is the deadliest
form of skin cancer, and eachof these, depending on who you
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listen to, can be problematic.
Is it all because of the sun?
No, I stand with Elena on this.
I agree with you.
I think how much it's.
I mean, look at the wordantioxidant, anti against
oxidant.
What is the oxidant?
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It's that oxidative stress orrust.
Don't be a rusty nail.
So yeah, cancer it's not that,even if it's in your family
history, it doesn't mean that'syour destiny.
And just an important littlenote here I think people always
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question like, hey, if you have,if you had cancer, what would
you do?
And I get people who ask methat a lot and I always say,
well, it depends on the cancerthere.
If you've got an acatonickeratosis and you can scrape
that puppy off and be done withit, I think that's a great idea.
You know, in general, this isnot speaking, this is not
medical advice but withmelanomas, the idea that we're
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going to get a melanoma if we'rein the sun, because melanomas
can metastasize and when theyget to your brain it can be very
, very deadly brain, it can bevery, very deadly.
But there are so many studiesthat show that melanoma is not
from the sun.
There are a lot of other things.
My son-in-law had a kneesurgery as a teenager.
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Then, as an adult in histwenties, he developed a
melanoma on the scar where hehad a bone graft done and it was
not.
It was on his leg, not in aplace where it was always
exposed to the sun.
It wasn't from sun damage.
And if you look at it on Bravenot on Google Chrome you may
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find a lot of scars actuallywill grow melanomas.
And why is that, elena?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Scars, love toxins, whoa, it's like a breeding
ground for toxicity andoxidation.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yes, so scars can become real knobby or ropey or
they can develop keloids.
They can be very fibrous andmany times there are toxins in
there and it's been shown thatmelanomas will grow at sites of
trauma.
And that's just something topay attention to.
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The nice thing about thesquamous cell and the basal cell
is a lot of times those can beexcised and then that's it.
You're done.
But it's important to payattention to your skin.
Whether you're a sun lover orsun phobic, we should always be
checking our skin right.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Right, always be checking your skin and, once
again, always be checking yourdiet and your nutrition, because
we've talked about some of thefoods you can eat to be eating
the rainbow but you know thereare certain supplements, because
there is a time and a place tojust get the nutrition from your
food, and there's other timesto take the supplements and
specific ones for your skin.
Those are going to be likeastaxanthin, vitamin C,
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quercetin, cocutin.
I mean those four, right, thereare the foundation for good,
healthy skin, let alone whatyou're going to be eating, and
that's important for people whoare trying to just enjoy sun,
prevent cancer, people who hadcancer, people who do have it.
Those antioxidants are going tobring the protection to your
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skin and your cells from insideout.
But, you know, in addition tothat, though, it's just
important to balance your sunexposure without like balance it
without the worries and I thinkthe modern way we live it's,
you know, even if you aren'tafraid of the sun, we just don't
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have the opportunity to be inthe sun as much.
So, if you are pro-sun versussun phobic and want to be in the
sun, okay, just carve out acouple of days a week where you
can go outside and get that sun,get that gradual exposure, get
your sun charge.
I have to get mine at leastevery weekend, working
throughout the week.
You can't get it, but it's likeI got to go get my solar charge
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and it just makes you feelalive.
So you know, getting thatgradual exposure, getting that
callus, that solar callus, isgoing to be a great way to just
continue to enjoy the sun forwhat it's there for.
But you know, talking also aboutways to just prevent and
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identify and take care of ourbodies and our skin.
We get asked a lot ifthermography can identify skin
cancer, because thermography isone of our favorite tools here
at K6 Wellness, if you're local.
It's one of our favoritetesting methods.
But unfortunately it is notgreat for skin.
It's going to tell us about howyour organs are working on a
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cellular level and that willtell us a lot about oxidation or
detoxification, how well youare or aren't doing that.
But it just isn't the best forskin.
For skin, you've got to learnwhat is it?
Your ABCs, yes.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yes, and while thermography it's not, and we
don't use it as a specificdiagnostic tool for anything.
Now, skin is one of thosethings like you can visually
tell if something's going onwith the skin and it, but it's
not specific but it is going toshow right those underlying.
Hey, your nervous system's notdoing this or your gut's doing
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this, or you're more prone tothis.
We can see that.
But yeah, the ABCs man, youcannot beat that for paying
attention.
So this is something I thinkit's really important we should
all know.
And it's A, b, c, d and E.
Okay, learn this in nursingschool and learn it.
I think we learned it incollege or I don't know if they
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teach it in high school.
My daughter learned it inesthetician school.
But A is for asymmetry.
So if you're looking at a moleor a spot on your skin anywhere,
asymmetry is a lack of symmetry.
So it means one half of themole looks different than the
other half.
Ideally, in a healthy or benignmole, it's going to be the same
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on both sides.
It would be symmetrical.
So if it's asymmetric, that's acaution.
B stands for border.
So does the mole have an evenoutline or is it ragged?
Is it an irregular border,blurred edge, uneven outline.
It could be even notched alittle bit and the coloring
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could even like bleed off of themole into the surrounding skin.
That would be something to payattention to.
So we have asymmetry, irregularborder, and then the color.
And I think most peopleprobably know the color change
in melanoma more than any otherone, because melanoma is going
to have that brownish blackappearance.
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Those can be a little scary,but basal cell carcinomas and
even squamous cell could be pink.
Basal cell carcinomas and evensquamous cell could be pink,
like basal cells could have apink waxy appearance and then
squamous cell could usuallybleed real easily.
But you have to look at it.
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What did it look like lastmonth?
Does it look the same?
Has it grown?
Is the color changing?
Because if the color ischanging or the color is weird
all of a sudden, that's acaution Diameter.
So diameter is how far acrossthe center of the mole.
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If a mole is growing in size,that's something to pay
attention to and the rule ofthumb is especially for
melanomas if it's larger thanthe eraser of a pencil, you
should get it checked out,because melanomas are usually
bigger, like that, fivemillimeters, I think, is.
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So get your you know a littlemeasuring tape out or go grab a
pencil and compare it to youryour dark spot and see if.
See if you need to go get thatchecked.
And then evolution so we had Aasymmetry, b, irregular borders,
c is the color, d is diameterand E is evolution and it just
means is your mold changing insize or color over time?
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These are things that you canask yourself to help determine.
Am I okay?
Do I need to go get checked?
But I hope that helps.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yeah Well, you do have to pay attention to your
skin.
Be wise, be smart.
Don't ignore something thatcould be caught early on.
But also remember the sun.
Sun can heal you too.
Let's not forget the vitamin D,we all know that.
But also, if you're outside oron the beach, you're getting
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grounding, You're getting thecharge from the earth, and that
helps to neutralize toxins andto get the sunshine, the air,
the grounding.
That's the basics right there.
But the sun also.
It cleanses our skin.
Think about when you've had agood tan.
You look so healthy and vibrantand younger, as long as you're
taking care to not get allleathery because you didn't
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moisturize properly afterwardsor hydrate you have to hydrate.
But you know, the sunshine alsoencourages sweat, and that's the
same as just getting the freshair.
People don't do it enoughanymore.
People don't sweat enough.
We sit inside with our airconditioned houses and our comfy
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couches.
We aren't sweating.
I get in my sauna every day, inaddition to getting out into
the sunshine when I can, becausewhen you sweat you are
literally emptying out thetoxins in your body.
It's just one of the simplestways to detox.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
And I think it's important to remember your skin
is your largest organ ofelimination, right?
That makes it super importantfor taking out the trash.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, and it helps your lymphatic system because if
you're sweating it out, thelymph isn't having to go through
and clean it all up throughyour digestive tract.
You know, or you know, itdoesn't replace lymphatic
therapy Hear me there or takingcare of your lymph at home, but
just sweating.
We need to sweat more.
But then there's also some, youknow, specific conditions that
are alleviated by sunlightexposure.
(45:50):
That's depression and anxiety,and one of the biggest things is
because we're getting thatserotonin from the sunshine and
then we have more melatonin tosleep at night.
So our entire circadian rhythmis being reinforced and you have
more energy because you'resleeping better.
You have less anxiety becauseyou're sleeping better.
You have less depressionbecause you're sleeping better.
(46:11):
Nothing replaces sleep either.
We've talked about sleep a lot.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
I am telling you our first retreat on the place that
shall be someday.
For us.
We are going to do a two-weeksleep retreat and I want
problematic sleepers because Iam convinced that all of these
low tech bio hacks that you'retalking about going outside
(46:37):
putting your feet on the ground,that is all so important
Without shoes.
Yeah, without shoes.
Yeah, I mean, that's so centraland we all wear shoes and
nobody goes outside and nobodygoes outside barefoot.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, yeah.
And so getting that sunshine,you're going to also have just
better health overall.
You're going to have lessinflammation.
You're going to have better guthealth.
You know the bad microbes don'tlike the sunlight.
We use UV lights to sterilize.
You know utensils or tools.
Think about what it's doing toyour body when it's penetrating
through your skin and I think wesee more gut issues than about
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anything else, becauseeverything goes back to the gut,
but just keeping thatinflammation down and getting
the natural steroids from the D3.
So get the sun exposure you can.
When you can Be smart about it,be careful, but enjoy it.
And if you live somewhere inthe can, be smart about it, be
careful, but enjoy it.
And if you live somewhere inthe world or it's a certain time
of year not right now, it'swhat June, we've got plenty of
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sunshine but if you're somewherewhere you can't get enough,
take your D3, but also look athappy lamps.
They're great little tools thatjust give you that glow of the
sun and it literally makes youhappy.
We've used this for people whohave seasonal depression and it
just helps you get by.
And some people can't toleratethe heat of the sun.
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That's a whole other caveat,but it's not most of us.
But there is.
I don't know the link to it.
We'll include it in our notes,in our podcast notes, where you
could look for those.
But you could also just searchonline.
But that's a great way to getto some of the vibrance from the
sun.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah, especially for older people who just aren't
going to go outside very much,you can sit by your happy lamp
and read.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
And you won't get dehydrated.
You know if dehydration is abig concern as well, yeah, Happy
lamp.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Well, I think this was a good discussion.
This is probably just the rightplace to wrap it up, I think
personally.
For me, getting outside in thesun an hour a day is my happy
spot.
Now, everybody's going to be alittle different.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
And.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
I hope that everyone takes something from this to say
, okay, I'm going to give this atry, but but be smart about it,
because we're definitely notadvocating for nonsensical,
careless going out in the sunwith no regard for safety, Cause
that's not what this is about.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
We want you to take care of your health.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
We want you to have healthy skin and healthy organs
all the way around.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah.
So this summer, let's continueto find alternative ways to
increase sun exposure and not beafraid of the sun any longer.
We hope that you found thisinformation valuable and we'd
love to hear from you.
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about how to take better care ofyour health, please visit us at
k6wellnesscom.
Then you can schedule anappointment there and just have
a call with us.
But until next time, take careof yourself, because your health
is worth fighting for.
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