March 18, 2024 • 59 mins
Embark on a revealing journey into the world of parasites as we uncover the pervasive presence of these unwelcome guests in our daily lives. From sushi to water, no stone is left unturned as we dismantle the misconception that developed countries are immune to parasitic invasions. Discover the subtle symptoms that could be signaling a parasitic takeover, from cravings to skin issues, and learn why mainstream medical tests often fall short in detection.
Delve into the perplexing realm of parasite treatments, weighing the pros and cons of pharmaceuticals versus natural remedies, like black walnut and neem. Join us as we share personal anecdotes and guide listeners through the intricate process of parasite cleansing, offering insights into timing cleanses with the lunar cycle and aligning diets for optimal results. Don't miss out on this eye-opening discussion that emphasizes the importance of recognizing parasites as a global health concern and seeking professional guidance for effective cleansing strategies.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the K6 Wellness Revolution podcast.
My name is Sharon, owner of K6Wellness Center here in Dallas,
texas, and I'm gonna be yourhost as we go through all things
health and wellness.
Today, my sidekick Elena, ourfamous and infamous health coach
here at K6 Wellness Center,it's gonna talk with me and
(00:20):
we're gonna have a reallyinteresting conversation about
parasites.
So for the last few monthsthose of you who follow us we've
really been going through rifetrying to take a deep dive on
that, and we did kind of touchon parasites in that we use rife
to address parasites for a fewthings you know, in a few
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different ways, and it's reallyit's intriguing.
Parasites are disgusting forsome people but totally
necessary to talk about,especially if you're on any kind
of health journey.
So with the changing of theseason coming up, we feel like
this is the perfect time to havea great conversation about
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these little buggers.
So let's get to it.
Hey, elena, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I am good and ready to talk bugs.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Did you eat a big greasy supper?
So we can really like bedisgusting.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I had raw sushi yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
We're gonna talk about that, right?
Yes, yes.
I think for some of the peoplewho are new to natural health
functional medicine, when theycome in and they hear us say, oh
okay, well, we're probablygonna do some parasite work, we
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get a few different reactions.
Some of them are like what?
And then some people say, oh,I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And some people say oh, I just saw this on TikTok or
Instagram.
Yeah, everyone says parasitecleanses, it's catching on, it's
about time.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Remember that show way back when it was called the
Monsters Inside you.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
The Monsters Inside Me.
I was just discussing.
Yes, so we're not talking aboutthat necessarily, right?
Like they were pulling out ofpeople's brains and it was
pretty extreme.
That was extreme.
It was pretty extreme, but Ialso think it's worth noting
that stuff does happen.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And it's available on the internet.
You can still find that stuff.
You can find anything.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But so we're going to have this conversation really
starting at the beginning.
Like people hear parasites, andif you say parasite, I think
the first thing that comes intopeople's minds is a worm, right?
But, ultimately, a parasite isreally any organism, any living
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organism that gets its life orsustains itself from another
organism.
Sometimes it can be symbiotic,meaning nothing, there's no harm
, no foul, but it can also causethe host organism its life, or
it could be to the hostdetriment Absolutely.
(03:11):
I think that as we go throughthis we should maybe keep that
in mind and highlight that.
But yeah, parasites Fun.
It's more than just worms.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I think that's important it is, and I think
we've all had our initialexperiences.
And then you and me, sharon, weget to see everyone's
experiences, whether it's theirfirst time or they've been doing
it for years, and it never getsold.
It absolutely never gets old.
So I try to think back to myfirst personal experience, and I
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think my first severalexperiences with parasite
cleanses weren't very productive, so I felt like I didn't do
anything.
But there's all thosemicroscopic bugs that you can't
see, and so it was doingsomething.
Because I know I felt bad.
I felt really bad trying to dothese cleanses.
And then you get the rightcleanse for the right person at
the right time, and the one Idid a couple of years ago was
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life changing and y'all, Ipassed bugs for six months.
Six months.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Ew gross Ew.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But it never gets old .
Speaker 1 (04:18):
But parasitic infections in humans are quite
common, and so when we talkabout parasitic infections, I
think it's important to kind ofunderstand that this could be
anything from scabies, body lice, hair lice.
Those aren't worms, right?
They're little mice.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And they're parasitic Lice or even fleas.
Yeah, you can see them.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But also pinworms, whipworms, roundworms, flukes,
tapeworms, malaria.
They're caused from plasmodium,right so, and that's carried in
a mosquito, so you can get amosquito bite and then you get
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sick with malaria, lyme disease,which I think originally was
associated with ticks, but nowthey're saying that the Lyme
spirochetes are actually foundin almost every flying insect in
North America.
You're a lovely thought.
I know, yeah, what they've doneto our insects right,
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especially mosquitoes becausethey're such great delivery
systems.
But parasites include manydifferent things.
I remember the first tapeworm Iever saw was in junior high in
a jar of formaldehyde and inlearning about it I was like man
, that'd be a good way to loseweight.
It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
There's some weight loss treatments where they
introduce parasites, but y'all,I don't recommend it.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, but yeah it's pretty rough People do some of
these things.
Let's talk about the differentways that people get exposed or
infected.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah Well, because I think all of us go about our day
and you don't want to sit andbe terrified that you're going
to get them anywhere you go, butthe most common place that you
would think of is food that'sundercooked or like sashimi.
People think sushi, but it's notalways sushi, because a lot of
times it's good, but sashimi notsushi, and you think about the
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traditional way that sushi orsashimi is served.
You've got the wasabi and theginger that helps counteract
that exposure that you'reinevitably going to get if
you're eating raw fish.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, so if you're one of those people who throws
out the wasabi and the pickledginger, you shouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You should actually serve the serving of parasites
Eat it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It's good for you, it might protect you.
But yeah, and to pork, a lot ofpeople had a family member who
would undercook pork.
It was always medium and I waslike oh, I don't think I can eat
that.
No, it just doesn't wash withme.
Now, steak I'm all about a bluesteak, but that doesn't mean
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I'm not getting parasites.
I mean beef can have worms too.
Any meat can, but fish has someof the gnarliest ones.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well, because, then, another big area that we have to
think about with parasiteexposure is water, like poor
sanitation and poorly filteredwater.
And where were your fish grown?
Yeah, were they in a tank?
Were.
They're just swimming in theirown feces Are they swimming out
in the middle of the ocean.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, but yeah, but also.
So to the water thing.
Look at Giardia.
Right, Giardia is one.
I always thought of Giardia ashey.
You get this when you gocamping or hiking and you think
it's a good idea to drink out ofthe river.
But there's more to it thanthat, and it's not just drinking
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out of a river, because a rivercould be really amazing, except
the elk Half a mile upstreamjust pooped in it.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Right, you don't know Whatever, you know the bear
pooping in the woods or a person.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
But Giardia you can get.
You do get from rivers andlakes, but we've seen people get
it from their drinking, out ofthe garden hose and Then to.
I learned several years agothrough a client that Got
Giardia was like how did you getit?
She hadn't been anywhere, shehadn't done anything.
Turns out she got it from herswimming pool, from Landing in
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her swimming pool, yeah, and Ithought, well, wouldn't the
chlorine kill it?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
and then you told me yeah, it has to do with the pH.
So if you see ducks swimming inyour pool, it means your pH is
off and they're having a heydayand they're leaving some Giardia
behind.
It's usually after a rainstorm.
I notice in my pool and I havea saltwater pool, but after a
rainstorm I go shock it and I gotest to make sure I've got the
pH right, because no one wantsto be swimming in that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, the other yeah, and Giardi is awful, it's, it's
a lot of diarrhea, it's, it'spretty awful, I'm good.
But then I think, and we'regonna talk about kind of you
know the impact, like what yousee worldwide, right, but we
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tend to think in America thatwe're so insulated and and I've
had doctors say we don't haveparasites in America.
I mean, I've read articles thatoh, we're so clean and we just
don't have it.
I am sorry.
We warm our dogs, we warm ourcats, we warm our horses and
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cows, and why do we do that?
Because we know they have worms, yeah, but what else do we do
with our dogs and our cats andour horses?
I don't kiss cows, but Peoplekiss their animals all the time
in their beds?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Hey, and if you do that, okay, but just know you
probably need to be warmed, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Or if you're walking barefoot in the backyard where
your dog poops right and youdon't want to miss out on
walking barefoot.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But Risks.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
That's true, it's true.
Okay, so you can get parasitesfrom foods.
You can get it from making outwith your pet.
You can get it.
Oh, here's one a skin to skinright like scabies.
Yeah, and lice.
My mom never wanted me tryinghats on in stores.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I don't blame her.
You do it one time and you'regonna regret it for a whole
month.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, you know and the interesting thing about
scabies is I remember, like as aI think I was in fourth grade
they closed our school downbecause so many kids got scabies
, wow, and I told somebody thatone time.
And they're like that'ssexually transmitted?
Oh, it's, but it's skin to skinright and a lot of people will
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get it in their genital area andso when you rub up enough
against each other, you're gonna.
You're gonna get it.
And carbon, but you can alsoget it.
You know, just hanging out, youkids will crawl over each other
.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, so scabies, and scabies isa oh, it's a rough one.
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It's pretty uncomfortable, butyou can get it from just being
around somebody who is Infectedwith you know, name it whatever
roundworm, and if you're sharingtoo much skin or or if they're
not clean and you get oral fecalcontact, which happens in
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daycares.
It happens in restaurants.
I hope we don't make a lot ofParanoid people out of.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Out of the way.
First Exposers, then we'll talka little bit more about what it
all looks like, and thenthere's help in the end, don't
worry.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
There you go, yeah, but skin to skin, so in the
animals and Walking barefoot.
But a lot of times it's notjust walking barefoot in the
yard, I mean it's.
I think that's an importantthing, but a lot of times we do
see people come back fromtropical vacations where they
walked around barefoot.
You and you can look it up.
There are worms that will comein through your feet and you can
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see them through your skin.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So there there's a lot of life, go live your life,
go have your fun in the tropicalplaces.
Then come back and see us andwe'll get you squared away
Actually, yeah, beforehand andwe'll give you preventative tips
, and tricks and remedies almostlike a parasite proof?
Yes, but you know, I think alot of the time people also
think that the people who areprone to parasites are just, you
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know, poor communities or thirdworld countries.
But I mean, that's not true.
We have parasites everywhere andparasites are a part of life
and no one's immune to it.
But hygiene does play a factor,a big factor, yeah.
So you know, if you're sittinghere and already getting
paranoid, just wash your handsand, for Pete's sake, teach your
children to wash their hands.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I, yeah, I think that that's a big deal, especially
where you you know like pinworms, and we'll go into that a
little more.
But I think that hygiene habitsand I see that a lot with kids
and and I'm been around herelong enough, just Just long
enough to be mean enough whereif I have a kid come in with
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dirty hands, it's like I'm gonnago wash your hands before we
touch each other it's not thatyou have to watch.
I, you know, as a nurse, I haveto wash my hands all day long,
every day that I work as a nurseor in nursing, and that's fine
because I'm putting my hands onpeople or things that are
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contaminated.
But Even for your children, Ithink it's just a really good
idea, teacher kids to wash theirhands when they come inside.
If you've been outside or youleft the house and you went to
the store, wash your hands whenyou come home.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
That's not asking too much.
Right wash your hands beforeyou eat.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
That's to be like a thing.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Everybody did.
I mean, if you learn a languageI'm trying to learn Spanish and
you're learning all aboutwashing hands in Spanish.
Don't ask me to quote it rightnow, but I was just models.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I have bad Spanish too, but yeah, absolutely Just
washing your hands, not afterevery time you touch the pet,
and you don't have to do itevery time.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You know I'm erotic about it right.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
We also need put exposure to these bugs and
bacteria is in any kind of yeah,there's balance there, but I
think that it's also important,especially here in America, that
we acknowledge that it's notsomething we're immune to, and I
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think this is what we come upagainst, and so this is kind of
when we want to go with this.
You know, parasitic infectionscan definitely be very exotic
and they can definitely beconnected to international
travel We've seen it.
But Parasites are Everywhere,they're everywhere, even here in
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America.
I say it all the time.
Nobody else checks in at theborder.
Why do we think parasites are?
Respect borders.
It just is what it is.
But there's a lot of reasons.
There's denial about Parasitesand you know it goes to.
There is ignorance, but I thinkthere's this, there's this I
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don't know, I think it's basedon false information but and
faulty testing.
But we're not, we're not immuneto them here, and I think that
the people, people around thecountry, like in India countries
and Central America, southAmerica, where the government is
passing out the medicine andreminding people once or twice a
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year hey, you know, take yourparasite remedy.
There's no, a lot of thoseplaces don't have clean water
systems, and that's a thing.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
But, but honestly, how many people think they have
clean water here in the US?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I know and say our water is kind of gross.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, we've got cleaner water than you know a
mud hole, but Our water is notas clean and that's why you know
something that we talk aboutall the time.
Right, it's water.
You got to start with waterwhen you're dealing with your
whole body, health, and that's,you know, a whole other topic,
but clean water is so important.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, but then when do you know?
When do we wonder, when do westart to suspect Parasites?
And I think this is this iswhere it gets interesting,
because for a long timeparasites were where we went
last.
Right, let's right, try to getrid of everything first, and if
it doesn't resolve, we'll do aparasite cleanse.
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And you and I've kind offlipped on that now.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Absolutely, absolutely many reasons all it's
because people come in with allsorts of symptoms.
We're kind of the last stop fora lot of our clients for sure
and when people come in, theythat's not on their Horizon.
They're not even consideringthat parasites can cause Ball
issues like diarrhea orconstipation.
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It can cause warts Um teethgrinding.
That's a huge one that I loveto just point out to people,
because you see it onThermography.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
We look at this and go do you grind your teeth a lot
?
And people don't know why theyground their teeth, or when it
started and it's like huh, orthey just think they're stressed
and.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
No, parasites will make you stressed, they'll lower
your tolerance to stress andwhile there are so many factors
that play into that, if ifthere's parasites present, your
body is not going to adapt theway it was designed to.
But yeah, other things to likesugar cravings.
Yes, sugar is very addicting.
We will all admit that.
It tastes good, but it's notgood for us and it only feeds
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the bad bugs.
And when you've got this crazysugar craving, we've got to
interrupt that cycle by killingthe bugs.
Yeah and you know other thingsto, like vomiting and nausea, I
think, some of those extremeones.
People think, oh, that wouldonly be if I went out of the
Country.
But I mean, think about if anyof our listeners have ever and
had about where you justsuddenly got sick and if you
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were to trace it back you mightfigure out, oh, it was this
salad bar or was sushi, or I hadbad water.
But there's so many of thesesymptoms that go beyond the
common one where you know, withthe little kid, when they start
itching their little Hineys atbedtime every night at bedtime
or in the middle of the night,you go look and you're gonna get
a little surprise.
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Okay, so let's just stop righthere, real quick.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, pinworms, that's what you're talking about
.
Yes, very common childhoodinfection, even in America.
You can go to the drugstore,you can go to Amazon and you can
buy parental pamela Pamo eightto treat it.
But there's a really simpletest you can do at home, because
a lot of Parasites.
I think the reason we don'tknow about them is because we
don't see them.
But there's something called thetape test and this is what I
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tell parents when I asked isyour child scratch their rectum
a Lot at night?
And I like, yes, it's like theycan't stop and I'm so sick of
it.
And and then you know they getthem on their fingers and they
swallow it or they go rub.
Brother, it's disgusting, yeah,but you can.
So first thing in the morning,before your kid gets out of bed,
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you get a piece of scotch tapeand you just pull on the
underwear and you put thatscotch tape right at the opening
of their rectum and it's liketaking a little sample if
there's eggs or worms.
Your doctor can see that, butyou can see it too and and I've
had people send me videos youknow, toilet full of pinworms
and it's like, yep, yeah, youhad them, but we don't always
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see it in the toilet.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
That's.
That's the most, I think one ofthe most visible ones.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I think it is, and it's probably one of the more
common ones too.
Yeah, well, that's so easilytransmitted not all of them are
that easily transmitted, I meanit's one that people can live
with for a long long time, justmildly irritated, like Women.
A lot of moms will say, okay,my son turned for and he will
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not quit playing with his Penis.
It's like, well, he found it,you know.
And some parents will say, okay, my kid will not quit
scratching their butt.
And it's not just their butt,cheek, it's, it's their right.
It's like, well, that's, that'sparasites, because nobody just
scratches their rectum rightRight right right you know other
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things too with with parasites.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You know.
Think about anemia.
You know how many people do wesee that have anemia and They've
never thought it was parasites,and it's not always that itchy
rectum yeah especially with men,because no man should be anemic
outside of like a pathology.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
But if you have a man who doesn't have an ulcer and
he doesn't have Cancer and hedoesn't have some disease but
his irons always low, that's agood sign that maybe, maybe we
should be looking at parasites.
Women get a.
I think women get overlooked alittle more because we expect
women to be anemic if they haveperiods, but it's not always
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just from menstrual bleeding.
It can also be because you'redonating all of your To a
visitor that you didn't invite.
So, yeah, and a lot of times,just those unexplained health
conditions that nobody seems toever get to the bottom of and
there's no, there's no soliddiagnosis that fits.
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That's definitely is, asnaturopathic Minded
practitioners we go.
Hmm, yeah, we should absolutelylook at Parasites and we've
moved that up the line as far asOur priorities.
Yeah, priorities, because werealized that most people, when
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they get to us, have never beenQuote-unquote treated for
parasites, they've never beenwormed, and we have a lot of
people who have been tested forparasites and most of those
tests are negative, you knowyeah that's.
That's problematic as well, butI think, yeah, pinworms.
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They're easier to wrap ourheads around, but they can be
difficult to get or get rid ofif, if you don't practice good
hygiene, and that's why it'simportant for parents make your
kids wash your hands andeverybody.
Please quit kissing your dogsand cats on the face because
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they lick their own butts andThen you let them lick you or
you doing it.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It is job security for us, you know.
Just come see us twice.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Absolutely.
It's so bad, but I Think We'vetalked about okay how do you
know, right?
But I would just like to speaka minute to people out there who
are like I've been so tired for10 years, I have such chronic
fatigue, I have Brain fog.
I think a lot of people alsohear parasites and they think
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well, if I had a parasite I'd beskinny.
But that's not true.
We've seen overweight peoplepast tapeworms, yeah, and it's
not always what you think.
Your body has amazingmechanisms by which it tries to
catch these little buggers andand it's called biofilm.
You know biofilm can beproblematic, but it's also
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something your body is doing totry to protect you, and it's
basically large Snotballs thatserve as apartment buildings for
bugs and sometimes you can seeit in your bowels.
You know, yeah, I think peopleare the person who passes mucus,
right, that's biofilm typically, yeah, and you can be
guaranteed there's something inthere that you don't want in
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your body.
But skin issues especially.
I mean think about scabies.
One of the telltale signs withscabies for those of you Don't
know is in the, the meat inbetween your fingers, like the
webbing.
You'll commonly see it brokenout and it may look like eczema,
but that's very common forscabies Infections.
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It's not always the place thatyou see it, but it's usually one
of the more telltale signs forfor scabies.
But also neurological issues.
I mean, you know, that's whereyou like, get into that monsters
inside me.
People get worms in their brain, which is kind of scary, and
then mood swings, which canrelate to what's happening with
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your nutrition, and, yeah, you'dalready mentioned, like teeth
grinding and stuff like that.
But, but so many of thesethings, if you pursue
traditional medicine, you'regonna be misled, right, yeah,
yeah, there's all these TMJ.
Oh, you need a retainer.
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Oh, you have eczema, oh, oh youhave Whatever you name it.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You have weight problems, yeah, but that's not
actually what it is.
No, but I think we should speakto the, the testing that's
available in mainstream Medicinefor parasites.
It's really faulty.
You know there's a lot of falsenegatives Because there's so
many different aspects toconsider, like when you are
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collecting the sample.
Your parasites may not haveshed any eggs in the Stool
sample that you submitted, sothere may be nothing to see.
And it's not in common for manyorganisms to go through these,
you know, late in cycles,sometimes for months, where they
aren't producing.
You know they're not for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And and if you do get a sample, like you, because for
those of you've never done astool test basically Look at
your poop in a tray and then youscoop some of it into a little
cup with a lid and you send itoff.
Okay, well, what if you gotsome in the tray but nothing
with eggs, because the eggs getlaid in a little clump.
They don't get laid like strungout through all your poop.
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They land where they land.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You need to miss them .
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah.
So what if you don't get anyeggs in the actual sample?
Or what if you do get it in thecup?
It gets to the lab and theydon't pick.
They pick from the top, not thebottom, and your eggs were in
the bottom of the cup.
You know, there's so many Holes, there's so many
inconsistencies, it's almostlike luck.
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Look at the draw and I've seenestimates saying that stool
tests catch as many as 80% falsenegatives or, I'm sorry, the
yield as much as 80% falsenegatives.
I I don't know that that'struly the case.
But stool testing is kind ofthe best thing, the best thing
traditional medicine has to relyon, because Endoscopies,
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colonoscopies, those are notgood tests and blood is really
not gonna show much unlessyou've got a special kind of
blood.
It's not it, they just don't doit.
But I think that's really coolfor us because While we do the
eav testing that we've talkedabout, some people do muscle
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testing right and the testing isas good as the person doing it.
So we both muscle test and Ihave great confidence in our
ability.
But we're able to find out doesthis body have stress
associated with parasites?
It's not diagnostic, but Iwould dare say our testing is
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probably more accurate so greatguide.
Unfortunately there's.
No, there's no way to likequantify that, because there's
no good standardized testingthat is perfoid, that's
economically reasonable.
It would cost so much money.
(28:14):
I mean, as it is, when you do astool test, they recommend you
do three collections, like youhave to do poop test three days
in a row.
Well, if you didn't pass eggstill the fourth day, it's still
literally a crapshoot.
You're so funny, it's true, yeah, yeah.
So there, yeah, I think thattesting is problematic.
(28:41):
That's why we rely on the EAVtesting but also looking at a
person's situation right, right,looking at their symptoms.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
that we know to look beyond.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
And you know and note also, just even with testing or
not testing, we always do somesort of testing.
We do assume that most peoplehave it, but we're not going to
just jump into that.
But when we're dealing withpeople who have known toxic
levels of environmentalchemicals or heavy metals or
mycotoxins parasites thrive onthese toxins.
(29:12):
So if I see a test, a testresult that has all these
different toxins, you know theconversation goes something like
well, we are going to startaddressing these, but we're also
going to do some parasitecleansing along the way, because
you could clear out all of yourheavy metals but if you don't
clear out the parasites, you'restill going to have heavy metals
in you and you're still goingto be feeling awful.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Well, because those parasites hang on to the heavy
metals.
And in looking at that back tothe whole fish thing, right?
So they're saying that fishthat are grown in dirty water
they grow these, they have theseparasites and those parasites.
Or the fish, the fish, no, theparasites hold on to like an
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enormous amount of metalsrelative to what you would get
just from eating the fish.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Well, you think of the high amounts of heavy metals
that we see in people nowadays.
And there's a lot of otherfactors, but I feel like we see
higher levels of heavy metalsand other environmental toxins
than ever before.
That's why it matters whatyou're eating.
That's where you have to start.
What's going into your mouthand where was it grown?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, yeah, it's very true.
And parat, yeah, so bad, okay.
So standard treatments though.
Now, just because we are we areparasite deniers in America,
doesn't mean we don't have drugsfor them.
(30:46):
We have lots of drugs for them.
I mean they're calledanti-helmets or anti-parasitics
and they're common to likeivermectin.
That's the one everybody knowsright, and that's been used for
decades, decades for manyparasitic infections.
But then there's albendazole Ithink a really interesting one,
(31:09):
a finbendazole.
So for those of you who want togo down a rabbit hole probably
don't do it on Google, maybe goto Brave Browser or something
but type in finbendazole andprostate cancer and you will
find thousands and thousands ofstories of men who are diagnosed
with prostate cancer, who tookthis anti-parasitic and their
(31:33):
prostate cancer went away.
I'm not saying it's true andI'm not saying it's not true.
I'm saying it's out there.
And we also know you can findlots of stories where people
were diagnosed with cancer andwhen they go in to do surgery,
they found it was a parasiticcyst.
So what was the cancer really?
(31:57):
Was it a tumor that had its ownvessels or was it another
organism taking away?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
from the post-organism.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, yeah.
So there is a lot of that, andI'm not saying all cancer is
parasite.
So, please, you know anyone outthere like if you have cancer
and you're going, oh, it's aparasite.
No, that's not necessarily thecase, but I do think that
parasites play a role in a lotof our chronic health issues and
(32:30):
if you have a depressed immunesystem, you're going to be more
susceptible to any type ofinfection, be it bacterial,
viral, fungal, parasitic.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Right, you become a welcome host to these things
because your immune system isbasically saying, hey, come on
in.
The front door's open.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, absolutely Absolutely, but then too, okay.
So look at this, and this isagain very interesting
Hydroxychloroquine Now we use ithere in America for lupus, but
it's an anti-malarial drug,right?
And malaria is a disease causedby the parasite Plasmodium.
That's delivered via mosquitobites or, yeah, mosquito bites.
(33:12):
Now in many countries in Africayou just go down to the corner
drug store, it's notprescription, you just go buy it
.
That's because malaria is athing.
Right here, you have to.
I have a friend with malaria.
I mean, she had to go to thedoctor to get tested, to be
diagnosed, and then she got herhydroxychloroquine.
But if you look at, okay, we'regoing to go down the hole.
(33:38):
If you look at COVID, covid wasa virus, right, no doubt.
I think COVID was a lot ofthings, but there are one of the
one of the drugs that peoplereported feeling helped by,
besides ivermectin, thishydroxychloroquine.
Is it because it does also havestrong anti-biral properties or
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is it because there is someaspect of COVID that responded
to anti-parasitic action by adrug?
Just something to think about,right, and it's interesting too.
People in Africa didn't getCOVID at the rates the rest of
the world did, and some peoplesay it's because they could go
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down to the corner drug storeand get their hydroxychloroquine
with no trouble.
So I think it's justinteresting to think about.
So we could go further, butI'll just leave it there.
Yeah, stir the pot a little bit.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I think, though, whether you're using a
pharmaceutical which can beeffective, they're not always
entirely effective.
I know so many people andreally honestly myself included
I took a bit of ivermectinthrough COVID and thought I
should be good, but then, when Idid our super duper parasite
cleanse, you know what?
(35:02):
Two years later, after havinghad pretty regular ivermectin,
it's like I hadn't takenanything because this cleanse
produced so much that I neededto get out of my system.
There's a lot of worms, but itcan just.
It can take a long time.
It's challenging to addressparasites.
You don't do it just one anddone.
(35:23):
Even if it's a medication, it'snot one and done.
It takes time.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
And I think you know for us, like we start people,
there's different ways to do itand I learn from my clients all
the time.
There's different ways to do it.
You can do it around the fullmoon, and let's talk about that
for a minute why we do it aroundthe full moon.
So if you ask any labor anddelivery nurse, they'll tell you
(35:50):
lots of babies are born aroundthe full moon.
We're ranchers.
Lots of calves are born aroundthe full moon, not necessarily
on the day of the start ofaround right?
I know all four of my daughterswere born within a week of a
full moon.
(36:10):
So whatever, do with that, withwhat you want, I still don't
think the babies come untilthey're really ready.
You know for the most part, butAround the full moon, that is
when worms reproduce, parasiteswill reproduce.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
That's when they lay a lot of eggs.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Therefore, if you attack at that time, you're
gonna be more productive withwhat you get rid of.
But even at that, is thatalways enough, helena?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
No it is not, and it really depends on the person,
depends on what kind of bugswe're dealing with and it
depends on what they cantolerate, because it can.
It can be rough trying to killoff these bugs, and so you have
to repeat if we do a full mooncycle, we do it for at least
three months in a row, I mean atleast, and sometimes that's
(37:01):
still with some monthly Protocolas well, just not as intense,
but it's it takes.
It takes time because you wantto make sure that you get each
round of these bugs laying theireggs and because it's not gonna
be.
You did it and they're all gone.
Nope, you're gonna get a lot,but there could still be some in
there hiding deep down in thedark, hiding places of your body
(37:23):
.
Yeah, well, in so many times.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I think too a lot of people believe that you have to
feel worse before you feelbetter, and that's something
that you and I definitely do notagree with.
But, we ease people into it.
The first thing is like youdon't go in anywhere and go.
Oh yeah, we're gonna, we'regonna get rid of garbage.
We're just gonna throw it upagainst this window and it's
(37:48):
gonna disappear.
No, maybe we should open thewindow or open the door, right.
So kind of the same thing withus.
We need to open all these exitsup, like if you're chronically
constipated and we start killingstuff, you're not gonna feel
good and you're probably justgonna get really bloated, crampy
and more constipated.
We want to make sure that allthe elimination like skin, lungs
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, kidneys, bowels, all of thatWorks, so we spend a little time
preparing All right.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
That's why I mean, we don't ever start people off
with killing the bugs, because,like you're saying, sharon, it's
like trying to throw somethingagainst the window and it's not
gonna get out.
And and with that being said,though, even when you have
opened all the windows and allthe drains are working, there
can still be some problems thathappen, but we work really hard
to make sure that those types ofsymptoms are as mild as
(38:41):
possible.
Yeah, because you shouldn'thave to bulldoze through feeling
ten times worse before you'rebetter, and that's where we work
.
You know we work closely withour clients, and I tell all of
mine hey, as we get going onthis journey, please let me know
if something changes in yourbowels or if you aren't sweating
.
You know we need to know that.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah, and I think too , like the first.
So if I think back to the firstparasite cleanse I did it was
hold a Clark and if I mean she'skind of the og like she was
doing all the parasite Researchand work and a lot of people
have done her stuff and a lot ofpeople like man, it changed my
life.
And there are a lot of peoplewho say I never really felt
anything.
And I was one of those.
(39:21):
I was like I mean, I didn'tfeel any different.
And then when we do ours, it'slike why I didn't feel any
different the first time when Idid the easy version, it wasn't
until I did the advanced version.
That was like holy moly.
Now I know what people aretalking about.
Yeah, and Everybody hits there.
(39:41):
It's not hitting a wall, butyou kind of hit that point where
it's like, oh, here's abreakthrough.
It's different for everybodybecause we're all magical.
Yeah, the breakthrough ismagical, but it's.
It's also very interesting andI think you know if you're
(40:02):
squeamish and you've made itthis far, you just encourage you
.
Like some people go, I'm gonnado the parasite lens, but I'm
not looking in the toilet.
Okay, don't look in the toilet.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Hey, but I always said, if anything actually comes
out of me, I I'm just gonna die.
And then when it happened, Ifelt like I was going to die for
a little bit before because Idid it really, really harsh.
I don't do that to other people, I just do that to myself.
But once you've passed it andthen you see what's in the
toilet, it's so satisfying and,as gross as it is, we tell
(40:32):
everyone look at what's comingout of you.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
But it doesn't just come out of your bowels.
No, it's not.
We've had somebody blow one outof their nose.
It had been in their sinuses.
So back to like swimming inrivers and lakes.
I grew up in a lake, love lakes, but we address parasites in
all the likely hangouts.
We have had people throw vomitand.
(41:01):
Yeah, it's not fun, but then atthe same time, it's like how,
how productive was that?
Sometimes, I think, when wetake an antibiotic for an
infection, it's like, uh-huh, Iget, I feel better.
There's just something sosatisfying about a tangible
result from from all the workthat you've done and, yeah,
(41:24):
parasite remedies will do that.
Now it's so much scabies ormalaria or or lies sometimes
lies, but but they just, theydisappear and you want that.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
That's what you.
You want them to do more here.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
And so a lot of people.
People use different things andthey use different methods.
We use many different methods.
We are pretty Careful I meannot we're very careful with what
we have Curated to use, but weare creative sometimes in making
(41:55):
it doable for people and Ithink that's the benefit of
working with a professional isHaving somebody who okay, this
isn't their first rodeo and theyunderstand that your needs
don't fall within what the normis and we can work around.
We have so many workarounds andthere are some of these
(42:19):
workarounds?
Or just that we're gonna do babydoses for two months, because
that's what it's gonna take.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
I mean, I've had people where we can't graduate
beyond that and you know what?
Speaker 1 (42:28):
it's okay, it's a marathon, yeah, and sometimes
those baby doses long enough dojust as much as a real hard and
heavy fast Pulse kill.
So that's, you know, there'salways more than one way to
achieve the result.
But for people who do want tolook at doing it yourself, you
know.
Let's talk about Some of thenatural things that nature has
(42:53):
given us to fight Parasites,besides pickled ginger and
wasabi.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Which are yummy, but you know, you've got herbs like
potty, I'll go.
Or black walnut, Sweet warmwood garlic clove.
You know these really strong,stringent, mm-hmm ingredients
really.
And what would you say, sharon,neem, yes, neem, oh neem.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Oh right, I know, yeah, a lot of those natural
ones.
They're not just for bacteriaor fungus, they have anti
parasitic Properties as well.
There's so many, so many thingsout there to something to to
think about.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
So these are the approaches when you're going to
try to kill these things.
But what if you also quitfeeding the bugs?
What a concept.
There's so many things in thestandard American diet that make
these types of issues firstworld problems.
The amount of sugar that we eatthat is just fuel for these
bugs.
They I mean, think about howyou feel when you eat sugar.
These bugs get hyped up on ittoo.
(43:57):
And yeah, you know.
And then dairy that that reallyfeeds in to the bugs and the
mucus that they're alreadycreating Too many carbs.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, so I have a client who taught me this and
and I didn't know this, but inher country, or I think it's a
more cultural thing based on herculture.
But they would do the full mooncleanse, but they would start a
few days early.
Then on the day of the fullmoon, you fast and then at the
(44:30):
time of the full moon, you drinkmilk, because the sugar in the
milk would coax out theparasites and that's when you
kill Kind of an interestingconcept yeah that's how I love
that, yeah, but yeah, justanother interesting approach.
There's a lot of different waysto hit these suckers and and
milk feeds them, and thatculture definitely realizes Yep
(44:52):
milk sugar.
It's a great Way to baitparasites, for sure.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
So you could start by removing them from your diet,
though.
Yeah, add more things likevegetables, fiber like
vegetables.
Yeah, the fiber just sweepsthem out.
They can't.
They can't thrive off of it.
Your good bugs can, but not thebad ones.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah, I think that's true is fire.
You know, I know there's a lotof never, never thought.
I see the day when we're likevegetables or bad.
Vegetables are great andvegetables do Nourish us, they
provide great energy, but, yeah,for cleaning out your, your gut
, nothing.
(45:35):
Well, it's nature's broom.
Yeah, we've always called itbecause it sounds horny, but it
really does help to sweep outUnwanted parts of whether it's
undigested food, yeast,overgrowth, parasites and not
all parasites are just in theintestinal tract.
I think we've concentrated onthat, but I mean they can be in
(45:58):
the liver.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Um, all bladder.
That's a big one.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
That's why we have special protocols To access the
whole hepatobiliary system,whether it's, you know, sluggish
gallbladder or Ballstones, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
People who get nauseous everytime they eat, or people who
(46:23):
yeah, people who are wasting.
There's a lot to look at there.
Um, something I think peoplecan do just self-examination is
think about how you feel afteryou eat, and this kind of goes
to Digestion.
But it can also speak to whatare you feeding the bugs you
have?
(46:43):
Because we all have bugs.
It's just part of the humanexperience.
But if you're a person who tendsto get bloated and gassy right
after you eat, that's gonna bemore of a fat and protein
digestion issue and thattypically is going to point to
either low hydrochloric acid andor poor liver gallbladder
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performance with digestion.
If it takes you a couple ofhours to feel bloated or yucky
after you eat, that is gonnamore likely be a Sugar starch
digestion issue.
So you might consider am Iloading my diet too heavily For
my body to handle in one ofthese areas?
(47:29):
And there's other things youwant to do right, like digestive
enzymes just to aid indigestion and absorption.
Compete with those bugs for thenutrients that you are so
diligently taking in.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
But then You're, you're kind of the queen we call
Elena Our enema queen and Iwear this title very proudly for
because I Think some peopleknow of an enema to like okay,
flush out the colon if you'reconstipated.
Maybe you've heard of that, butwe use coffee edimas in our
(48:04):
world to help support liverdetoxification.
And when you are dealing withKilling off parasites, you know,
or just trying to mitigate theicky feeling that you have and
you don't know you haveparasites.
Yet we use enema is toalleviate that and they're so
easy to do and they call me theenema queen because I Refuse to
(48:25):
do them forever and ever.
And then when I finally did oneTen, eleven years ago I don't
know longer, I lose track, Idon't know.
I had to bug you for a long timeI know yeah, I told you I was
like not happening, not doing it.
I don't care how great youthink it is, but after that
first one I was blown away.
My life was changed and you canask anyone who knows me closely
(48:47):
.
I Will talk about enemas at anytime.
It is dinner.
We need to do a podcast episodeon enemas, here's the poop.
But when you do enemas, even ifyou aren't doing a parasite
cleanse, sometimes you'll passthings.
You'll especially pass bile film, but I've seen worms come out,
I've seen like soft gallstonescome out, and this is just my
(49:09):
personal experience, let aloneall the fun pictures people send
us when they do their enemas orjust their cleanses, and we
always like to see the pictures.
We want to know too.
We do, we do, but enemas are agreat, great tool that can help
you, because it mitigates someof these symptoms when you are
killing them off or when you'regetting ready to, to just help
(49:29):
open all the exits.
Yeah, yes, I am the enema queen.
Ask me your questions.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
We, we try to convert people all the time.
And then there's castor oilpacking.
Yes, that plays a role.
Lymphatic Drainage therapy isreally important.
You know, we use herbs, we usehomeopathics.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
It's not just take these pills, you can't do that,
but it's also hey, let's dothese things because what if
ever all the exits were open,your body would actually take
care of a lot of it on its own.
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah, absolutely, I think you know.
For for those of you who arelike I think I need a parasite
cleanse, we're not saying don'ttry it on your own, but we are
saying it might be a betteroutcome if you let a
professional help you.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, there's just so many things that that your body
can do when you're goingthrough this and you know you
can do something at home, butit's usually not going to be as
effective because, also, we'vegot access to Supplements that
you can only get throughpractitioners.
You know we have nutraceuticals, things that are going to be
stronger, but you needprofessional help.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah, absolutely, and we have definitely spent a lot
of years Sifting through,continuously educating ourselves
and really I mean our healthparadigm Changes.
You know, for a long timeeverything was a virus and then
everything was yeast.
I think parasites have been inthere three times.
(51:08):
But I think it's understandingthat, you know, to the old
analogy of you've got this cupinside of you and it can be
filled with Toxins like agarbage can, but at some point,
if you can't take the garbageout, something is going to make
the Something's going to tip itover, something's going to cause
the overflow, and so we want tokeep people in a state where
(51:29):
they can detoxify or they canget rid of parasites, where they
can experience Feeling good andnot crashing every time they
try to do something to improvetheir health, and Taking care of
parasites is really important.
So for those of you who know youhave heavy metals, I mean, pay
attention, because parasitescould be part of that, and
(51:49):
getting rid of Parasites is agreat way to lower your load of
Heavy metals.
So, and it's not just killingparasites, but it's how we bind
them and usher them out, andthat's where working with
Professionals who know whatfinds what is really important
as well.
So, yeah, I think I Think it'sthere's a lot to it, but it's
(52:14):
fascinating and it's fun.
And hey, if you're excited, gobuy a parasite Kit and get after
it and send us your feedback.
It goes well.
May they'll force me with youand hey, we are here.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
We are here to help you and we work with people
virtually and in person, andit's just one of those things
that we we love it.
It never gets old and and wewant you to have the best
outcome you can have.
You know, yeah, you can spend alot of time on you and energy
Without getting the effectiveresult that you need.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yeah, yeah.
So you know, just kind of towrap up, there's many different
types of parasites.
We would not treat Lyme diseaseand malaria the same way that
we would deal with pinworms.
It's not quite that simple.
There's a different Approachfor different situations.
There are many tests available.
I think if you're going to gomainstream stool testing gi map
(53:12):
Is it gi 360, gi effects.
There's a lot of decent stooltests, but remember that they're
not actually testing thesubstance.
It's going under a microscopeand it's up to a human to not
screw up and hopefully find theeggs.
Okay, so a little rudimentary,but finding a functional
(53:32):
medicine doctor is probably abetter option for you, somebody
who can do eav testing, ourmuscle testing.
Of course we do that as well,but it doesn't mean if you want
to do a parasite cleanse youdon't necessarily have to test
positive for parasites.
You can safely assume if youchecked any of the boxes, you
know kissing your pets, walkingbarefoot, you know doing any of
(53:54):
those things.
There's a good chance you'vebeen exposed.
And if you've never done aflush, why not?
What do you have to?
Speaker 2 (54:00):
lose.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
You know or?
Speaker 2 (54:02):
if you've never done an enema, you now know a queen.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Call Elena.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Do you have anything to addElena?
Speaker 2 (54:14):
I think you know we've covered all the basics and
I Think anyone listening wouldbenefit from a little cleanse,
so absolutely.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Absolutely, and we have a virtual program.
If you want to do this in agroup, we have a great virtual
program, parasites as part of it, and we love to build community
.
If you're in the Dallas FortWorth area, you can come join us
, check out our website, butthis is a great place to stop
this conversation.
If you found this informationHopeful and we are helpful and
(54:47):
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to schedule an appointment andUntil next time, take care of
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Welcome to the K6 Wellness Revolution podcast.
My name is Sharon, owner of K6Wellness Center here in Dallas,
texas, and I'm gonna be yourhost as we go through all things
health and wellness.
Today, my sidekick Elena, ourfamous and infamous health coach
here at K6 Wellness Center,it's gonna talk with me and
(00:20):
we're gonna have a reallyinteresting conversation about
parasites.
So for the last few monthsthose of you who follow us we've
really been going through rifetrying to take a deep dive on
that, and we did kind of touchon parasites in that we use rife
to address parasites for a fewthings you know, in a few
(00:41):
different ways, and it's reallyit's intriguing.
Parasites are disgusting forsome people but totally
necessary to talk about,especially if you're on any kind
of health journey.
So with the changing of theseason coming up, we feel like
this is the perfect time to havea great conversation about
(01:04):
these little buggers.
So let's get to it.
Hey, elena, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I am good and ready to talk bugs.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Did you eat a big greasy supper?
So we can really like bedisgusting.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I had raw sushi yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
We're gonna talk about that, right?
Yes, yes.
I think for some of the peoplewho are new to natural health
functional medicine, when theycome in and they hear us say, oh
okay, well, we're probablygonna do some parasite work, we
(01:41):
get a few different reactions.
Some of them are like what?
And then some people say, oh,I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And some people say oh, I just saw this on TikTok or
Instagram.
Yeah, everyone says parasitecleanses, it's catching on, it's
about time.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Remember that show way back when it was called the
Monsters Inside you.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
The Monsters Inside Me.
I was just discussing.
Yes, so we're not talking aboutthat necessarily, right?
Like they were pulling out ofpeople's brains and it was
pretty extreme.
That was extreme.
It was pretty extreme, but Ialso think it's worth noting
that stuff does happen.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And it's available on the internet.
You can still find that stuff.
You can find anything.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But so we're going to have this conversation really
starting at the beginning.
Like people hear parasites, andif you say parasite, I think
the first thing that comes intopeople's minds is a worm, right?
But, ultimately, a parasite isreally any organism, any living
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organism that gets its life orsustains itself from another
organism.
Sometimes it can be symbiotic,meaning nothing, there's no harm
, no foul, but it can also causethe host organism its life, or
it could be to the hostdetriment Absolutely.
(03:11):
I think that as we go throughthis we should maybe keep that
in mind and highlight that.
But yeah, parasites Fun.
It's more than just worms.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I think that's important it is, and I think
we've all had our initialexperiences.
And then you and me, sharon, weget to see everyone's
experiences, whether it's theirfirst time or they've been doing
it for years, and it never getsold.
It absolutely never gets old.
So I try to think back to myfirst personal experience, and I
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think my first severalexperiences with parasite
cleanses weren't very productive, so I felt like I didn't do
anything.
But there's all thosemicroscopic bugs that you can't
see, and so it was doingsomething.
Because I know I felt bad.
I felt really bad trying to dothese cleanses.
And then you get the rightcleanse for the right person at
the right time, and the one Idid a couple of years ago was
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life changing and y'all, Ipassed bugs for six months.
Six months.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Ew gross Ew.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But it never gets old .
Speaker 1 (04:18):
But parasitic infections in humans are quite
common, and so when we talkabout parasitic infections, I
think it's important to kind ofunderstand that this could be
anything from scabies, body lice, hair lice.
Those aren't worms, right?
They're little mice.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And they're parasitic Lice or even fleas.
Yeah, you can see them.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But also pinworms, whipworms, roundworms, flukes,
tapeworms, malaria.
They're caused from plasmodium,right so, and that's carried in
a mosquito, so you can get amosquito bite and then you get
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sick with malaria, lyme disease,which I think originally was
associated with ticks, but nowthey're saying that the Lyme
spirochetes are actually foundin almost every flying insect in
North America.
You're a lovely thought.
I know, yeah, what they've doneto our insects right,
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especially mosquitoes becausethey're such great delivery
systems.
But parasites include manydifferent things.
I remember the first tapeworm Iever saw was in junior high in
a jar of formaldehyde and inlearning about it I was like man
, that'd be a good way to loseweight.
It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
There's some weight loss treatments where they
introduce parasites, but y'all,I don't recommend it.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, but yeah it's pretty rough People do some of
these things.
Let's talk about the differentways that people get exposed or
infected.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah Well, because I think all of us go about our day
and you don't want to sit andbe terrified that you're going
to get them anywhere you go, butthe most common place that you
would think of is food that'sundercooked or like sashimi.
People think sushi, but it's notalways sushi, because a lot of
times it's good, but sashimi notsushi, and you think about the
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traditional way that sushi orsashimi is served.
You've got the wasabi and theginger that helps counteract
that exposure that you'reinevitably going to get if
you're eating raw fish.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, so if you're one of those people who throws
out the wasabi and the pickledginger, you shouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You should actually serve the serving of parasites
Eat it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It's good for you, it might protect you.
But yeah, and to pork, a lot ofpeople had a family member who
would undercook pork.
It was always medium and I waslike oh, I don't think I can eat
that.
No, it just doesn't wash withme.
Now, steak I'm all about a bluesteak, but that doesn't mean
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I'm not getting parasites.
I mean beef can have worms too.
Any meat can, but fish has someof the gnarliest ones.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well, because, then, another big area that we have to
think about with parasiteexposure is water, like poor
sanitation and poorly filteredwater.
And where were your fish grown?
Yeah, were they in a tank?
Were.
They're just swimming in theirown feces Are they swimming out
in the middle of the ocean.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, but yeah, but also.
So to the water thing.
Look at Giardia.
Right, Giardia is one.
I always thought of Giardia ashey.
You get this when you gocamping or hiking and you think
it's a good idea to drink out ofthe river.
But there's more to it thanthat, and it's not just drinking
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out of a river, because a rivercould be really amazing, except
the elk Half a mile upstreamjust pooped in it.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Right, you don't know Whatever, you know the bear
pooping in the woods or a person.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
But Giardia you can get.
You do get from rivers andlakes, but we've seen people get
it from their drinking, out ofthe garden hose and Then to.
I learned several years agothrough a client that Got
Giardia was like how did you getit?
She hadn't been anywhere, shehadn't done anything.
Turns out she got it from herswimming pool, from Landing in
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her swimming pool, yeah, and Ithought, well, wouldn't the
chlorine kill it?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
and then you told me yeah, it has to do with the pH.
So if you see ducks swimming inyour pool, it means your pH is
off and they're having a heydayand they're leaving some Giardia
behind.
It's usually after a rainstorm.
I notice in my pool and I havea saltwater pool, but after a
rainstorm I go shock it and I gotest to make sure I've got the
pH right, because no one wantsto be swimming in that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, the other yeah, and Giardi is awful, it's, it's
a lot of diarrhea, it's, it'spretty awful, I'm good.
But then I think, and we'regonna talk about kind of you
know the impact, like what yousee worldwide, right, but we
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tend to think in America thatwe're so insulated and and I've
had doctors say we don't haveparasites in America.
I mean, I've read articles thatoh, we're so clean and we just
don't have it.
I am sorry.
We warm our dogs, we warm ourcats, we warm our horses and
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cows, and why do we do that?
Because we know they have worms, yeah, but what else do we do
with our dogs and our cats andour horses?
I don't kiss cows, but Peoplekiss their animals all the time
in their beds?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Hey, and if you do that, okay, but just know you
probably need to be warmed, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Or if you're walking barefoot in the backyard where
your dog poops right and youdon't want to miss out on
walking barefoot.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But Risks.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
That's true, it's true.
Okay, so you can get parasitesfrom foods.
You can get it from making outwith your pet.
You can get it.
Oh, here's one a skin to skinright like scabies.
Yeah, and lice.
My mom never wanted me tryinghats on in stores.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I don't blame her.
You do it one time and you'regonna regret it for a whole
month.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, you know and the interesting thing about
scabies is I remember, like as aI think I was in fourth grade
they closed our school downbecause so many kids got scabies
, wow, and I told somebody thatone time.
And they're like that'ssexually transmitted?
Oh, it's, but it's skin to skinright and a lot of people will
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get it in their genital area andso when you rub up enough
against each other, you're gonna.
You're gonna get it.
And carbon, but you can alsoget it.
You know, just hanging out, youkids will crawl over each other
.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, so scabies, and scabies isa oh, it's a rough one.
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It's pretty uncomfortable, butyou can get it from just being
around somebody who is Infectedwith you know, name it whatever
roundworm, and if you're sharingtoo much skin or or if they're
not clean and you get oral fecalcontact, which happens in
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daycares.
It happens in restaurants.
I hope we don't make a lot ofParanoid people out of.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Out of the way.
First Exposers, then we'll talka little bit more about what it
all looks like, and thenthere's help in the end, don't
worry.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
There you go, yeah, but skin to skin, so in the
animals and Walking barefoot.
But a lot of times it's notjust walking barefoot in the
yard, I mean it's.
I think that's an importantthing, but a lot of times we do
see people come back fromtropical vacations where they
walked around barefoot.
You and you can look it up.
There are worms that will comein through your feet and you can
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see them through your skin.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So there there's a lot of life, go live your life,
go have your fun in the tropicalplaces.
Then come back and see us andwe'll get you squared away
Actually, yeah, beforehand andwe'll give you preventative tips
, and tricks and remedies almostlike a parasite proof?
Yes, but you know, I think alot of the time people also
think that the people who areprone to parasites are just, you
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know, poor communities or thirdworld countries.
But I mean, that's not true.
We have parasites everywhere andparasites are a part of life
and no one's immune to it.
But hygiene does play a factor,a big factor, yeah.
So you know, if you're sittinghere and already getting
paranoid, just wash your handsand, for Pete's sake, teach your
children to wash their hands.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I, yeah, I think that that's a big deal, especially
where you you know like pinworms, and we'll go into that a
little more.
But I think that hygiene habitsand I see that a lot with kids
and and I'm been around herelong enough, just Just long
enough to be mean enough whereif I have a kid come in with
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dirty hands, it's like I'm gonnago wash your hands before we
touch each other it's not thatyou have to watch.
I, you know, as a nurse, I haveto wash my hands all day long,
every day that I work as a nurseor in nursing, and that's fine
because I'm putting my hands onpeople or things that are
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contaminated.
But Even for your children, Ithink it's just a really good
idea, teacher kids to wash theirhands when they come inside.
If you've been outside or youleft the house and you went to
the store, wash your hands whenyou come home.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
That's not asking too much.
Right wash your hands beforeyou eat.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
That's to be like a thing.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Everybody did.
I mean, if you learn a languageI'm trying to learn Spanish and
you're learning all aboutwashing hands in Spanish.
Don't ask me to quote it rightnow, but I was just models.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I have bad Spanish too, but yeah, absolutely Just
washing your hands, not afterevery time you touch the pet,
and you don't have to do itevery time.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You know I'm erotic about it right.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
We also need put exposure to these bugs and
bacteria is in any kind of yeah,there's balance there, but I
think that it's also important,especially here in America, that
we acknowledge that it's notsomething we're immune to, and I
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think this is what we come upagainst, and so this is kind of
when we want to go with this.
You know, parasitic infectionscan definitely be very exotic
and they can definitely beconnected to international
travel We've seen it.
But Parasites are Everywhere,they're everywhere, even here in
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America.
I say it all the time.
Nobody else checks in at theborder.
Why do we think parasites are?
Respect borders.
It just is what it is.
But there's a lot of reasons.
There's denial about Parasitesand you know it goes to.
There is ignorance, but I thinkthere's this, there's this I
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don't know, I think it's basedon false information but and
faulty testing.
But we're not, we're not immuneto them here, and I think that
the people, people around thecountry, like in India countries
and Central America, southAmerica, where the government is
passing out the medicine andreminding people once or twice a
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year hey, you know, take yourparasite remedy.
There's no, a lot of thoseplaces don't have clean water
systems, and that's a thing.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
But, but honestly, how many people think they have
clean water here in the US?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I know and say our water is kind of gross.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, we've got cleaner water than you know a
mud hole, but Our water is notas clean and that's why you know
something that we talk aboutall the time.
Right, it's water.
You got to start with waterwhen you're dealing with your
whole body, health, and that's,you know, a whole other topic,
but clean water is so important.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, but then when do you know?
When do we wonder, when do westart to suspect Parasites?
And I think this is this iswhere it gets interesting,
because for a long timeparasites were where we went
last.
Right, let's right, try to getrid of everything first, and if
it doesn't resolve, we'll do aparasite cleanse.
(16:59):
And you and I've kind offlipped on that now.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Absolutely, absolutely many reasons all it's
because people come in with allsorts of symptoms.
We're kind of the last stop fora lot of our clients for sure
and when people come in, theythat's not on their Horizon.
They're not even consideringthat parasites can cause Ball
issues like diarrhea orconstipation.
(17:24):
It can cause warts Um teethgrinding.
That's a huge one that I loveto just point out to people,
because you see it onThermography.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
We look at this and go do you grind your teeth a lot
?
And people don't know why theyground their teeth, or when it
started and it's like huh, orthey just think they're stressed
and.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
No, parasites will make you stressed, they'll lower
your tolerance to stress andwhile there are so many factors
that play into that, if ifthere's parasites present, your
body is not going to adapt theway it was designed to.
But yeah, other things to likesugar cravings.
Yes, sugar is very addicting.
We will all admit that.
It tastes good, but it's notgood for us and it only feeds
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the bad bugs.
And when you've got this crazysugar craving, we've got to
interrupt that cycle by killingthe bugs.
Yeah and you know other thingsto, like vomiting and nausea, I
think, some of those extremeones.
People think, oh, that wouldonly be if I went out of the
Country.
But I mean, think about if anyof our listeners have ever and
had about where you justsuddenly got sick and if you
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were to trace it back you mightfigure out, oh, it was this
salad bar or was sushi, or I hadbad water.
But there's so many of thesesymptoms that go beyond the
common one where you know, withthe little kid, when they start
itching their little Hineys atbedtime every night at bedtime
or in the middle of the night,you go look and you're gonna get
a little surprise.
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Okay, so let's just stop righthere, real quick.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, pinworms, that's what you're talking about
.
Yes, very common childhoodinfection, even in America.
You can go to the drugstore,you can go to Amazon and you can
buy parental pamela Pamo eightto treat it.
But there's a really simpletest you can do at home, because
a lot of Parasites.
I think the reason we don'tknow about them is because we
don't see them.
But there's something called thetape test and this is what I
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tell parents when I asked isyour child scratch their rectum
a Lot at night?
And I like, yes, it's like theycan't stop and I'm so sick of
it.
And and then you know they getthem on their fingers and they
swallow it or they go rub.
Brother, it's disgusting, yeah,but you can.
So first thing in the morning,before your kid gets out of bed,
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you get a piece of scotch tapeand you just pull on the
underwear and you put thatscotch tape right at the opening
of their rectum and it's liketaking a little sample if
there's eggs or worms.
Your doctor can see that, butyou can see it too and and I've
had people send me videos youknow, toilet full of pinworms
and it's like, yep, yeah, youhad them, but we don't always
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see it in the toilet.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
That's.
That's the most, I think one ofthe most visible ones.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I think it is, and it's probably one of the more
common ones too.
Yeah, well, that's so easilytransmitted not all of them are
that easily transmitted, I meanit's one that people can live
with for a long long time, justmildly irritated, like Women.
A lot of moms will say, okay,my son turned for and he will
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not quit playing with his Penis.
It's like, well, he found it,you know.
And some parents will say, okay, my kid will not quit
scratching their butt.
And it's not just their butt,cheek, it's, it's their right.
It's like, well, that's, that'sparasites, because nobody just
scratches their rectum rightRight right right you know other
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things too with with parasites.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You know.
Think about anemia.
You know how many people do wesee that have anemia and They've
never thought it was parasites,and it's not always that itchy
rectum yeah especially with men,because no man should be anemic
outside of like a pathology.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
But if you have a man who doesn't have an ulcer and
he doesn't have Cancer and hedoesn't have some disease but
his irons always low, that's agood sign that maybe, maybe we
should be looking at parasites.
Women get a.
I think women get overlooked alittle more because we expect
women to be anemic if they haveperiods, but it's not always
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just from menstrual bleeding.
It can also be because you'redonating all of your To a
visitor that you didn't invite.
So, yeah, and a lot of times,just those unexplained health
conditions that nobody seems toever get to the bottom of and
there's no, there's no soliddiagnosis that fits.
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That's definitely is, asnaturopathic Minded
practitioners we go.
Hmm, yeah, we should absolutelylook at Parasites and we've
moved that up the line as far asOur priorities.
Yeah, priorities, because werealized that most people, when
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they get to us, have never beenQuote-unquote treated for
parasites, they've never beenwormed, and we have a lot of
people who have been tested forparasites and most of those
tests are negative, you knowyeah that's.
That's problematic as well, butI think, yeah, pinworms.
(22:34):
They're easier to wrap ourheads around, but they can be
difficult to get or get rid ofif, if you don't practice good
hygiene, and that's why it'simportant for parents make your
kids wash your hands andeverybody.
Please quit kissing your dogsand cats on the face because
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they lick their own butts andThen you let them lick you or
you doing it.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It is job security for us, you know.
Just come see us twice.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Absolutely.
It's so bad, but I Think We'vetalked about okay how do you
know, right?
But I would just like to speaka minute to people out there who
are like I've been so tired for10 years, I have such chronic
fatigue, I have Brain fog.
I think a lot of people alsohear parasites and they think
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well, if I had a parasite I'd beskinny.
But that's not true.
We've seen overweight peoplepast tapeworms, yeah, and it's
not always what you think.
Your body has amazingmechanisms by which it tries to
catch these little buggers andand it's called biofilm.
You know biofilm can beproblematic, but it's also
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something your body is doing totry to protect you, and it's
basically large Snotballs thatserve as apartment buildings for
bugs and sometimes you can seeit in your bowels.
You know, yeah, I think peopleare the person who passes mucus,
right, that's biofilm typically, yeah, and you can be
guaranteed there's something inthere that you don't want in
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your body.
But skin issues especially.
I mean think about scabies.
One of the telltale signs withscabies for those of you Don't
know is in the, the meat inbetween your fingers, like the
webbing.
You'll commonly see it brokenout and it may look like eczema,
but that's very common forscabies Infections.
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It's not always the place thatyou see it, but it's usually one
of the more telltale signs forfor scabies.
But also neurological issues.
I mean, you know, that's whereyou like, get into that monsters
inside me.
People get worms in their brain, which is kind of scary, and
then mood swings, which canrelate to what's happening with
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your nutrition, and, yeah, you'dalready mentioned, like teeth
grinding and stuff like that.
But, but so many of thesethings, if you pursue
traditional medicine, you'regonna be misled, right, yeah,
yeah, there's all these TMJ.
Oh, you need a retainer.
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Oh, you have eczema, oh, oh youhave Whatever you name it.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You have weight problems, yeah, but that's not
actually what it is.
No, but I think we should speakto the, the testing that's
available in mainstream Medicinefor parasites.
It's really faulty.
You know there's a lot of falsenegatives Because there's so
many different aspects toconsider, like when you are
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collecting the sample.
Your parasites may not haveshed any eggs in the Stool
sample that you submitted, sothere may be nothing to see.
And it's not in common for manyorganisms to go through these,
you know, late in cycles,sometimes for months, where they
aren't producing.
You know they're not for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And and if you do get a sample, like you, because for
those of you've never done astool test basically Look at
your poop in a tray and then youscoop some of it into a little
cup with a lid and you send itoff.
Okay, well, what if you gotsome in the tray but nothing
with eggs, because the eggs getlaid in a little clump.
They don't get laid like strungout through all your poop.
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They land where they land.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You need to miss them .
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah.
So what if you don't get anyeggs in the actual sample?
Or what if you do get it in thecup?
It gets to the lab and theydon't pick.
They pick from the top, not thebottom, and your eggs were in
the bottom of the cup.
You know, there's so many Holes, there's so many
inconsistencies, it's almostlike luck.
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Look at the draw and I've seenestimates saying that stool
tests catch as many as 80% falsenegatives or, I'm sorry, the
yield as much as 80% falsenegatives.
I I don't know that that'struly the case.
But stool testing is kind ofthe best thing, the best thing
traditional medicine has to relyon, because Endoscopies,
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colonoscopies, those are notgood tests and blood is really
not gonna show much unlessyou've got a special kind of
blood.
It's not it, they just don't doit.
But I think that's really coolfor us because While we do the
eav testing that we've talkedabout, some people do muscle
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testing right and the testing isas good as the person doing it.
So we both muscle test and Ihave great confidence in our
ability.
But we're able to find out doesthis body have stress
associated with parasites?
It's not diagnostic, but Iwould dare say our testing is
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probably more accurate so greatguide.
Unfortunately there's.
No, there's no way to likequantify that, because there's
no good standardized testingthat is perfoid, that's
economically reasonable.
It would cost so much money.
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I mean, as it is, when you do astool test, they recommend you
do three collections, like youhave to do poop test three days
in a row.
Well, if you didn't pass eggstill the fourth day, it's still
literally a crapshoot.
You're so funny, it's true, yeah, yeah.
So there, yeah, I think thattesting is problematic.
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That's why we rely on the EAVtesting but also looking at a
person's situation right, right,looking at their symptoms.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
that we know to look beyond.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
And you know and note also, just even with testing or
not testing, we always do somesort of testing.
We do assume that most peoplehave it, but we're not going to
just jump into that.
But when we're dealing withpeople who have known toxic
levels of environmentalchemicals or heavy metals or
mycotoxins parasites thrive onthese toxins.
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So if I see a test, a testresult that has all these
different toxins, you know theconversation goes something like
well, we are going to startaddressing these, but we're also
going to do some parasitecleansing along the way, because
you could clear out all of yourheavy metals but if you don't
clear out the parasites, you'restill going to have heavy metals
in you and you're still goingto be feeling awful.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Well, because those parasites hang on to the heavy
metals.
And in looking at that back tothe whole fish thing, right?
So they're saying that fishthat are grown in dirty water
they grow these, they have theseparasites and those parasites.
Or the fish, the fish, no, theparasites hold on to like an
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enormous amount of metalsrelative to what you would get
just from eating the fish.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Well, you think of the high amounts of heavy metals
that we see in people nowadays.
And there's a lot of otherfactors, but I feel like we see
higher levels of heavy metalsand other environmental toxins
than ever before.
That's why it matters whatyou're eating.
That's where you have to start.
What's going into your mouthand where was it grown?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, yeah, it's very true.
And parat, yeah, so bad, okay.
So standard treatments though.
Now, just because we are we areparasite deniers in America,
doesn't mean we don't have drugsfor them.
(30:46):
We have lots of drugs for them.
I mean they're calledanti-helmets or anti-parasitics
and they're common to likeivermectin.
That's the one everybody knowsright, and that's been used for
decades, decades for manyparasitic infections.
But then there's albendazole Ithink a really interesting one,
(31:09):
a finbendazole.
So for those of you who want togo down a rabbit hole probably
don't do it on Google, maybe goto Brave Browser or something
but type in finbendazole andprostate cancer and you will
find thousands and thousands ofstories of men who are diagnosed
with prostate cancer, who tookthis anti-parasitic and their
(31:33):
prostate cancer went away.
I'm not saying it's true andI'm not saying it's not true.
I'm saying it's out there.
And we also know you can findlots of stories where people
were diagnosed with cancer andwhen they go in to do surgery,
they found it was a parasiticcyst.
So what was the cancer really?
(31:57):
Was it a tumor that had its ownvessels or was it another
organism taking away?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
from the post-organism.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, yeah.
So there is a lot of that, andI'm not saying all cancer is
parasite.
So, please, you know anyone outthere like if you have cancer
and you're going, oh, it's aparasite.
No, that's not necessarily thecase, but I do think that
parasites play a role in a lotof our chronic health issues and
(32:30):
if you have a depressed immunesystem, you're going to be more
susceptible to any type ofinfection, be it bacterial,
viral, fungal, parasitic.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Right, you become a welcome host to these things
because your immune system isbasically saying, hey, come on
in.
The front door's open.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, absolutely Absolutely, but then too, okay.
So look at this, and this isagain very interesting
Hydroxychloroquine Now we use ithere in America for lupus, but
it's an anti-malarial drug,right?
And malaria is a disease causedby the parasite Plasmodium.
That's delivered via mosquitobites or, yeah, mosquito bites.
(33:12):
Now in many countries in Africayou just go down to the corner
drug store, it's notprescription, you just go buy it
.
That's because malaria is athing.
Right here, you have to.
I have a friend with malaria.
I mean, she had to go to thedoctor to get tested, to be
diagnosed, and then she got herhydroxychloroquine.
But if you look at, okay, we'regoing to go down the hole.
(33:38):
If you look at COVID, covid wasa virus, right, no doubt.
I think COVID was a lot ofthings, but there are one of the
one of the drugs that peoplereported feeling helped by,
besides ivermectin, thishydroxychloroquine.
Is it because it does also havestrong anti-biral properties or
(34:01):
is it because there is someaspect of COVID that responded
to anti-parasitic action by adrug?
Just something to think about,right, and it's interesting too.
People in Africa didn't getCOVID at the rates the rest of
the world did, and some peoplesay it's because they could go
(34:22):
down to the corner drug storeand get their hydroxychloroquine
with no trouble.
So I think it's justinteresting to think about.
So we could go further, butI'll just leave it there.
Yeah, stir the pot a little bit.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I think, though, whether you're using a
pharmaceutical which can beeffective, they're not always
entirely effective.
I know so many people andreally honestly myself included
I took a bit of ivermectinthrough COVID and thought I
should be good, but then, when Idid our super duper parasite
cleanse, you know what?
(35:02):
Two years later, after havinghad pretty regular ivermectin,
it's like I hadn't takenanything because this cleanse
produced so much that I neededto get out of my system.
There's a lot of worms, but itcan just.
It can take a long time.
It's challenging to addressparasites.
You don't do it just one anddone.
(35:23):
Even if it's a medication, it'snot one and done.
It takes time.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
And I think you know for us, like we start people,
there's different ways to do itand I learn from my clients all
the time.
There's different ways to do it.
You can do it around the fullmoon, and let's talk about that
for a minute why we do it aroundthe full moon.
So if you ask any labor anddelivery nurse, they'll tell you
(35:50):
lots of babies are born aroundthe full moon.
We're ranchers.
Lots of calves are born aroundthe full moon, not necessarily
on the day of the start ofaround right?
I know all four of my daughterswere born within a week of a
full moon.
(36:10):
So whatever, do with that, withwhat you want, I still don't
think the babies come untilthey're really ready.
You know for the most part, butAround the full moon, that is
when worms reproduce, parasiteswill reproduce.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
That's when they lay a lot of eggs.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Therefore, if you attack at that time, you're
gonna be more productive withwhat you get rid of.
But even at that, is thatalways enough, helena?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
No it is not, and it really depends on the person,
depends on what kind of bugswe're dealing with and it
depends on what they cantolerate, because it can.
It can be rough trying to killoff these bugs, and so you have
to repeat if we do a full mooncycle, we do it for at least
three months in a row, I mean atleast, and sometimes that's
(37:01):
still with some monthly Protocolas well, just not as intense,
but it's it takes.
It takes time because you wantto make sure that you get each
round of these bugs laying theireggs and because it's not gonna
be.
You did it and they're all gone.
Nope, you're gonna get a lot,but there could still be some in
there hiding deep down in thedark, hiding places of your body
(37:23):
.
Yeah, well, in so many times.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I think too a lot of people believe that you have to
feel worse before you feelbetter, and that's something
that you and I definitely do notagree with.
But, we ease people into it.
The first thing is like youdon't go in anywhere and go.
Oh yeah, we're gonna, we'regonna get rid of garbage.
We're just gonna throw it upagainst this window and it's
(37:48):
gonna disappear.
No, maybe we should open thewindow or open the door, right.
So kind of the same thing withus.
We need to open all these exitsup, like if you're chronically
constipated and we start killingstuff, you're not gonna feel
good and you're probably justgonna get really bloated, crampy
and more constipated.
We want to make sure that allthe elimination like skin, lungs
(38:14):
, kidneys, bowels, all of thatWorks, so we spend a little time
preparing All right.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
That's why I mean, we don't ever start people off
with killing the bugs, because,like you're saying, sharon, it's
like trying to throw somethingagainst the window and it's not
gonna get out.
And and with that being said,though, even when you have
opened all the windows and allthe drains are working, there
can still be some problems thathappen, but we work really hard
to make sure that those types ofsymptoms are as mild as
(38:41):
possible.
Yeah, because you shouldn'thave to bulldoze through feeling
ten times worse before you'rebetter, and that's where we work
.
You know we work closely withour clients, and I tell all of
mine hey, as we get going onthis journey, please let me know
if something changes in yourbowels or if you aren't sweating
.
You know we need to know that.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah, and I think too , like the first.
So if I think back to the firstparasite cleanse I did it was
hold a Clark and if I mean she'skind of the og like she was
doing all the parasite Researchand work and a lot of people
have done her stuff and a lot ofpeople like man, it changed my
life.
And there are a lot of peoplewho say I never really felt
anything.
And I was one of those.
(39:21):
I was like I mean, I didn'tfeel any different.
And then when we do ours, it'slike why I didn't feel any
different the first time when Idid the easy version, it wasn't
until I did the advanced version.
That was like holy moly.
Now I know what people aretalking about.
Yeah, and Everybody hits there.
(39:41):
It's not hitting a wall, butyou kind of hit that point where
it's like, oh, here's abreakthrough.
It's different for everybodybecause we're all magical.
Yeah, the breakthrough ismagical, but it's.
It's also very interesting andI think you know if you're
(40:02):
squeamish and you've made itthis far, you just encourage you
.
Like some people go, I'm gonnado the parasite lens, but I'm
not looking in the toilet.
Okay, don't look in the toilet.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Hey, but I always said, if anything actually comes
out of me, I I'm just gonna die.
And then when it happened, Ifelt like I was going to die for
a little bit before because Idid it really, really harsh.
I don't do that to other people, I just do that to myself.
But once you've passed it andthen you see what's in the
toilet, it's so satisfying and,as gross as it is, we tell
(40:32):
everyone look at what's comingout of you.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
But it doesn't just come out of your bowels.
No, it's not.
We've had somebody blow one outof their nose.
It had been in their sinuses.
So back to like swimming inrivers and lakes.
I grew up in a lake, love lakes, but we address parasites in
all the likely hangouts.
We have had people throw vomitand.
(41:01):
Yeah, it's not fun, but then atthe same time, it's like how,
how productive was that?
Sometimes, I think, when wetake an antibiotic for an
infection, it's like, uh-huh, Iget, I feel better.
There's just something sosatisfying about a tangible
result from from all the workthat you've done and, yeah,
(41:24):
parasite remedies will do that.
Now it's so much scabies ormalaria or or lies sometimes
lies, but but they just, theydisappear and you want that.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
That's what you.
You want them to do more here.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
And so a lot of people.
People use different things andthey use different methods.
We use many different methods.
We are pretty Careful I meannot we're very careful with what
we have Curated to use, but weare creative sometimes in making
(41:55):
it doable for people and Ithink that's the benefit of
working with a professional isHaving somebody who okay, this
isn't their first rodeo and theyunderstand that your needs
don't fall within what the normis and we can work around.
We have so many workarounds andthere are some of these
(42:19):
workarounds?
Or just that we're gonna do babydoses for two months, because
that's what it's gonna take.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
I mean, I've had people where we can't graduate
beyond that and you know what?
Speaker 1 (42:28):
it's okay, it's a marathon, yeah, and sometimes
those baby doses long enough dojust as much as a real hard and
heavy fast Pulse kill.
So that's, you know, there'salways more than one way to
achieve the result.
But for people who do want tolook at doing it yourself, you
know.
Let's talk about Some of thenatural things that nature has
(42:53):
given us to fight Parasites,besides pickled ginger and
wasabi.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Which are yummy, but you know, you've got herbs like
potty, I'll go.
Or black walnut, Sweet warmwood garlic clove.
You know these really strong,stringent, mm-hmm ingredients
really.
And what would you say, sharon,neem, yes, neem, oh neem.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Oh right, I know, yeah, a lot of those natural
ones.
They're not just for bacteriaor fungus, they have anti
parasitic Properties as well.
There's so many, so many thingsout there to something to to
think about.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
So these are the approaches when you're going to
try to kill these things.
But what if you also quitfeeding the bugs?
What a concept.
There's so many things in thestandard American diet that make
these types of issues firstworld problems.
The amount of sugar that we eatthat is just fuel for these
bugs.
They I mean, think about howyou feel when you eat sugar.
These bugs get hyped up on ittoo.
(43:57):
And yeah, you know.
And then dairy that that reallyfeeds in to the bugs and the
mucus that they're alreadycreating Too many carbs.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, so I have a client who taught me this and
and I didn't know this, but inher country, or I think it's a
more cultural thing based on herculture.
But they would do the full mooncleanse, but they would start a
few days early.
Then on the day of the fullmoon, you fast and then at the
(44:30):
time of the full moon, you drinkmilk, because the sugar in the
milk would coax out theparasites and that's when you
kill Kind of an interestingconcept yeah that's how I love
that, yeah, but yeah, justanother interesting approach.
There's a lot of different waysto hit these suckers and and
milk feeds them, and thatculture definitely realizes Yep
(44:52):
milk sugar.
It's a great Way to baitparasites, for sure.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
So you could start by removing them from your diet,
though.
Yeah, add more things likevegetables, fiber like
vegetables.
Yeah, the fiber just sweepsthem out.
They can't.
They can't thrive off of it.
Your good bugs can, but not thebad ones.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah, I think that's true is fire.
You know, I know there's a lotof never, never thought.
I see the day when we're likevegetables or bad.
Vegetables are great andvegetables do Nourish us, they
provide great energy, but, yeah,for cleaning out your, your gut
, nothing.
(45:35):
Well, it's nature's broom.
Yeah, we've always called itbecause it sounds horny, but it
really does help to sweep outUnwanted parts of whether it's
undigested food, yeast,overgrowth, parasites and not
all parasites are just in theintestinal tract.
I think we've concentrated onthat, but I mean they can be in
(45:58):
the liver.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Um, all bladder.
That's a big one.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
That's why we have special protocols To access the
whole hepatobiliary system,whether it's, you know, sluggish
gallbladder or Ballstones, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
People who get nauseous everytime they eat, or people who
(46:23):
yeah, people who are wasting.
There's a lot to look at there.
Um, something I think peoplecan do just self-examination is
think about how you feel afteryou eat, and this kind of goes
to Digestion.
But it can also speak to whatare you feeding the bugs you
have?
(46:43):
Because we all have bugs.
It's just part of the humanexperience.
But if you're a person who tendsto get bloated and gassy right
after you eat, that's gonna bemore of a fat and protein
digestion issue and thattypically is going to point to
either low hydrochloric acid andor poor liver gallbladder
(47:08):
performance with digestion.
If it takes you a couple ofhours to feel bloated or yucky
after you eat, that is gonnamore likely be a Sugar starch
digestion issue.
So you might consider am Iloading my diet too heavily For
my body to handle in one ofthese areas?
(47:29):
And there's other things youwant to do right, like digestive
enzymes just to aid indigestion and absorption.
Compete with those bugs for thenutrients that you are so
diligently taking in.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
But then You're, you're kind of the queen we call
Elena Our enema queen and Iwear this title very proudly for
because I Think some peopleknow of an enema to like okay,
flush out the colon if you'reconstipated.
Maybe you've heard of that, butwe use coffee edimas in our
(48:04):
world to help support liverdetoxification.
And when you are dealing withKilling off parasites, you know,
or just trying to mitigate theicky feeling that you have and
you don't know you haveparasites.
Yet we use enema is toalleviate that and they're so
easy to do and they call me theenema queen because I Refuse to
(48:25):
do them forever and ever.
And then when I finally did oneTen, eleven years ago I don't
know longer, I lose track, Idon't know.
I had to bug you for a long timeI know yeah, I told you I was
like not happening, not doing it.
I don't care how great youthink it is, but after that
first one I was blown away.
My life was changed and you canask anyone who knows me closely
(48:47):
.
I Will talk about enemas at anytime.
It is dinner.
We need to do a podcast episodeon enemas, here's the poop.
But when you do enemas, even ifyou aren't doing a parasite
cleanse, sometimes you'll passthings.
You'll especially pass bile film, but I've seen worms come out,
I've seen like soft gallstonescome out, and this is just my
(49:09):
personal experience, let aloneall the fun pictures people send
us when they do their enemas orjust their cleanses, and we
always like to see the pictures.
We want to know too.
We do, we do, but enemas are agreat, great tool that can help
you, because it mitigates someof these symptoms when you are
killing them off or when you'regetting ready to, to just help
(49:29):
open all the exits.
Yeah, yes, I am the enema queen.
Ask me your questions.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
We, we try to convert people all the time.
And then there's castor oilpacking.
Yes, that plays a role.
Lymphatic Drainage therapy isreally important.
You know, we use herbs, we usehomeopathics.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
It's not just take these pills, you can't do that,
but it's also hey, let's dothese things because what if
ever all the exits were open,your body would actually take
care of a lot of it on its own.
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah, absolutely, I think you know.
For for those of you who arelike I think I need a parasite
cleanse, we're not saying don'ttry it on your own, but we are
saying it might be a betteroutcome if you let a
professional help you.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, there's just so many things that that your body
can do when you're goingthrough this and you know you
can do something at home, butit's usually not going to be as
effective because, also, we'vegot access to Supplements that
you can only get throughpractitioners.
You know we have nutraceuticals, things that are going to be
stronger, but you needprofessional help.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah, absolutely, and we have definitely spent a lot
of years Sifting through,continuously educating ourselves
and really I mean our healthparadigm Changes.
You know, for a long timeeverything was a virus and then
everything was yeast.
I think parasites have been inthere three times.
(51:08):
But I think it's understandingthat, you know, to the old
analogy of you've got this cupinside of you and it can be
filled with Toxins like agarbage can, but at some point,
if you can't take the garbageout, something is going to make
the Something's going to tip itover, something's going to cause
the overflow, and so we want tokeep people in a state where
(51:29):
they can detoxify or they canget rid of parasites, where they
can experience Feeling good andnot crashing every time they
try to do something to improvetheir health, and Taking care of
parasites is really important.
So for those of you who know youhave heavy metals, I mean, pay
attention, because parasitescould be part of that, and
(51:49):
getting rid of Parasites is agreat way to lower your load of
Heavy metals.
So, and it's not just killingparasites, but it's how we bind
them and usher them out, andthat's where working with
Professionals who know whatfinds what is really important
as well.
So, yeah, I think I Think it'sthere's a lot to it, but it's
(52:14):
fascinating and it's fun.
And hey, if you're excited, gobuy a parasite Kit and get after
it and send us your feedback.
It goes well.
May they'll force me with youand hey, we are here.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
We are here to help you and we work with people
virtually and in person, andit's just one of those things
that we we love it.
It never gets old and and wewant you to have the best
outcome you can have.
You know, yeah, you can spend alot of time on you and energy
Without getting the effectiveresult that you need.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yeah, yeah.
So you know, just kind of towrap up, there's many different
types of parasites.
We would not treat Lyme diseaseand malaria the same way that
we would deal with pinworms.
It's not quite that simple.
There's a different Approachfor different situations.
There are many tests available.
I think if you're going to gomainstream stool testing gi map
(53:12):
Is it gi 360, gi effects.
There's a lot of decent stooltests, but remember that they're
not actually testing thesubstance.
It's going under a microscopeand it's up to a human to not
screw up and hopefully find theeggs.
Okay, so a little rudimentary,but finding a functional
(53:32):
medicine doctor is probably abetter option for you, somebody
who can do eav testing, ourmuscle testing.
Of course we do that as well,but it doesn't mean if you want
to do a parasite cleanse youdon't necessarily have to test
positive for parasites.
You can safely assume if youchecked any of the boxes, you
know kissing your pets, walkingbarefoot, you know doing any of
(53:54):
those things.
There's a good chance you'vebeen exposed.
And if you've never done aflush, why not?
What do you have to?
Speaker 2 (54:00):
lose.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
You know or?
Speaker 2 (54:02):
if you've never done an enema, you now know a queen.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Call Elena.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Do you have anything to addElena?
Speaker 2 (54:14):
I think you know we've covered all the basics and
I Think anyone listening wouldbenefit from a little cleanse,
so absolutely.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Absolutely, and we have a virtual program.
If you want to do this in agroup, we have a great virtual
program, parasites as part of it, and we love to build community
.
If you're in the Dallas FortWorth area, you can come join us
, check out our website, butthis is a great place to stop
this conversation.
If you found this informationHopeful and we are helpful and
(54:47):
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