Marvel’s R-Rated Triumph: Deadpool & Wolverine, Doctor Doom's MCU Future, and More!

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Speaker 1 (00:52):
Anyway, we saw.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Deadpool Wolverine.
It was good, it was great.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Thoughts Go I loved it by far my favorite Deadpool
movie out of all three.
I love Ryan Reynolds' Deadpool.
Hugh Jackman it's perfect asWolverine, and I love that we
finally get to see them be in awhole movie together.
Their chemistry was perfect.
It felt like I was readingright out of the comics pretty
much.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Dare I say it Off the chain.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Off the chain which you know.
Deadpool doesn't use chains,but ghostwriter does connections
biggest spoiler.
Ghostwriter is not in it.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I love how we immediately derail like we
haven't even even remotely beganto scratch the surface.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm going okay, I really liked it though so I'll
say that the movie felt reallywell paced.
Um, I enjoyed the comedy.
There was a bunch of cameos.
It was a bunch of like honestly, it was a bunch of like fan
service, almost like no way home, but it felt done respectfully
and it felt done.

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It didn't feel like it was justdone for like, done
respectfully and it felt done.
It didn't feel like it was justdone for like for laughs.
It felt like it had a purposeand, um, I personally I was
never a huge fan of the fox,like x-men universe, like.
I watched the movies, I watchedevery one of them, but I just I
could give a crap there wassome standouts, yeah, like hugh

(02:21):
jackman like I love, love theWolverine.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
We talked about this before.
Weren't we all huge fans ofX-Men First Class?

Speaker 1 (02:28):
We were, yeah, so there's standouts, but I never
liked the original X-Men.
X1, x2, x3.
I didn't really.
I was like, okay, they're allin black leather.
I'm like this is kind of weird.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Where's my yellow?

Speaker 1 (02:41):
suit.
Where's?
Where's my yellow suit, um?
But we finally get to seewolverine in the yellow suit,
which was dope, and the cameosum.
We got to see blade.
We got to see electro.
We got to see gambit uh,channing tinnim is gambit, um.
We got to see johnny storm, andthere's just so much in this
movie to talk about.
But just overall I loved it andI would recommend anyone to go

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see it, as if you're a fan ofmarvel and if you're a fan of
the mcu in general and put aspoiler tag on this.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Right did we?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
yeah, okay, definitely because I feel like
we have so much to get into, butI don't like I titled it like
complete discussion, so I wouldhope that I'm just saying we're
going to disappoint tens ofpeople yeah but, yeah so I would
just recommend it and thenwe'll get yours and we'll dive
in because there's so much totalk about.

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But, like it's, we have todiscuss it.
It's not just like I can justbe like yeah, by the way, see it
, gamble was Gamble.
I thought he said Gambo, gambo,gambo, gambo.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Gambo, all right.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
What did you think?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Mr Billy, I thought it was great.
I thought it was so much fun.
It was just a fun film.
Yeah, To me it was a very adultfun film.
Oh, it was rated R Disney'sfirst rated R fun film, oh it
was rated R Disney's first ratedR Apparently Disney's very
first ever rated R film, whichis easy to think about.
Isn't it a company that's beenmaking film for over 100 years?
Right, that's kind of wild tothink about that.

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This is the first time, sothat's kind of exciting.
Maybe there's a new path forthem.
It's blowing all the box officestuff out of the water.
It was already projected insanelevels and it's even like 20%
or 30% higher than that.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, was it like on $400 million right now or
something?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
like that.
I don't know.
Yeah, it's something crazy,maybe even higher, but it's just
like it's a family fun film.
No, it is just a fun film to goand see as a fan.
There's a bunch of fan servicewhich doesn't necessarily just
make a film good.
I felt like they balanced itreally well.
It wasn't over the top.
It was stuff that you didn'ttelegraph it from a mile away.

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It was like oh, the last scenewith Wolverine and Deadpool
they're linking these twoelectric beams together or
whatever.
All of a sudden his shirt blastsoff like only his right yeah,
like it wasn't necessarily yeahit wasn't necessarily like
obvious Right and so, uh, likethat that was going to happen.

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Just kind of hit you, it took.
It took a very serious momentinto like, oh my God, this movie
is really fun.
Um it was just.
It was a really, really funfilm and the writing was so
phenomenal.
They know how to write deadpool.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Oh yeah, like I think it's ryan reynolds I guess,
knows how to write deadpool andI think this, in my opinion,
this is like his truest form ofdeadpool.
I felt like deadpool one andtwo were close but this feels
the most like comic book, likeit felt like the same deadpool
from close but this feels themost comic book.
It felt like the same Deadpoolfrom the comic books to me
whereas the movies felt a littlebit different, but I feel this

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one really lined up for me.
What did you think?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Oh man, dude, this sucked, I knew it.
Anyways, I loved it.
It was the most fun I've had ina film in a while.
Uh, I think I there's been afew like really good post Thanos
Marvel films, um, but it hasreally only been like a handful.

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The other ones were okay.
Some of them were justdownright not good at all.
Uh, this one for me, is right atthe top, um, now that I've had
a time to digest, um, I don'tknow if I would put it above
like you know no way home, butit definitely is one that I had
more enjoyment like just overall.

(06:39):
Um, yeah, like it.
It had the right amount of likefan service.
Um, yeah, like it.
It had the right amount of likefan service.
Um, but it was done in a waythat was like it wasn't uh cheap
.
I think that's.
People's.
People's problem isn't fanservice.
People love fan service.
That's why it's called fanservice.
Uh, people's problem is whenthey feel like that is in place

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of good writing, when it's justkind of given just to give right
um, this had great writing, the.
This was a true to form deadpooland also like one of the most
accurate depictions of wolverinetoo, which you know we didn't
talk about, but this was areally good comic book, accurate
wolverine.
Um, I also feel like um it's.

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There's a lot of potential onlike these characters now in the
mcu and they leave that dooropen.
But it could also just stand onits own and kind of end right
there and that's okay too.
Um, and overall, you know, Ijust I don't think that it could
have been done any more perfect.
You know we talked a little bitabout the writing in it and

(07:42):
ryan reynolds, uh is was one ofthe lead writers of this film
because he, he loves thischaracter this is incredible so
much and I was actually.
I was watching an interviewwhere they said um, what gave
you the idea of wanting to be indeadpool?
And there was actually adeadpool comic from like 2004 or
something like that by name,right?

(08:03):
That mentioned him by name.
That said, um, someone likeasked deadpool, like what did
you look like before all thescarring?
and he said a lot like ryanreynolds, just like as a joke
yeah and then that's what maderyan reynolds fall in love with
the character and like talkabout, just like the writer who
wrote that line probably neverimagined that that would be

(08:24):
anything to evolve to anythingand it did.
That's crazy um.
I've been seeing it's beengetting.
The reviews have beendefinitely positive, but it's
not like from critics.
It's very mixed um, but theaudiences even movie reviewers,
like a couple that I watch on uhyoutube.
It's mixed and I'm like I and Ijust I don't agree with that

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this was like a perfect film.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
So what it is before we dive into, like maybe some of
the criticisms and the reviews.
I do want to touch on one thingthat you mentioned.
Have you guys seen the new uhhot ones episode with?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
not yet I did.
I watched it you did.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Uh, so you were talking about like the writing
and stuff I got, and actually ittowards the end.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
I think it's right after this, I think maybe that's
where I heard the Deadpool RyanReynolds.
Oh, maybe I think it might havebeen in the Hot Ones thing, but
anyways, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Maybe, but he has this whole part in there where
he talks about modern cinema andhow they try to use spectacle
over character and he's tryingto bring that back.
Not trying to bring that back,but that's one of the things
that he focuses on.
I'm going to.
The spectacle just kind ofcomes along with the movie and

(09:34):
obviously this is going to haveA-tier.
It's Deadpool, wolverine,marvel, billion dollar movie.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
So they're going to juice it $200 million budget, I
think mean so they're gonna 200million dollar budget.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, they're gonna juice it.
So.
But he is like I still, westill can't just lean on that
being the movie, right you thinkof like godzilla kong or you
know whatever like it's.
You go to there you just expectto see it's spectacle.
You know you expect to see shitblowing up.
That's what you're there for.
But he said that, like in hisopinion, it's so critical to
nail the character piece, whichis the writing component, which
I think we've, we've just gottenaway from yeah, you know like

(10:08):
we we've gotten away from justwriting like really good stories
, um, and they're, they'realmost, they're honestly like
just, they're a little pale andthey nailed it with this movie.
They nailed it so well.
So let's dive into the reviews,because I have seen this a lot
of the.
I guess to surmise what I'veseen is people have said 10 out
of 10 fun, six out of 10 uhstory, and it was like okay, I

(10:32):
don't know if that was a fair,accurate representation of what
we actually saw on screen,though you know, I think that
there was a lot of heart in this.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
I do think that at times, you know, the plot felt
convenient, you know, in someways, uh like, um, I don't want
to spend too much time on thecriticisms, because it's not
really criticism, it's just like, okay, I could see why someone
might think that is maybe alittle convenient, one of them
being, uh, the main villain washer name cassandra nova yeah um,

(11:01):
how she didn't get involved inthe final fight for really no
reason like other than the factthat if she was involved she
would just kill them allinstantly yeah um, and then, as
like a plot device, like youknow, him talking to her and
being, like you know, charleswould have done nothing to, like
he would have wouldn't havestopped if he knew you're in

(11:21):
here, and it like made her goodfor just just enough to send
them back.
And that was really because theykind of wrote themselves into a
corner with her power levelsbecause they knew that she
wasn't going to lose that fight.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
So I get that, but even at that point to
counter-argument that she didn'tgive a fuck about the real
world.
She didn't care At that point.
She wanted to be a fuck aboutthe real world.
She didn't care at that point.
She was only.
She wanted to be the king ofthe void, the queen of the void,
right.
That was so like it was notreally a loss.
It wasn't like her being thisbenevolent being when she let
him leave, like basically it'snot her problem anymore.

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She wanted to rule the void.
And then at the end there's thewhole twist of her coming out
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
But yeah, I I think also the performances.
You know it's a comedic film atheart for sure, like it really
is like a comedy, and then it'slike an action comedy first and
foremost.
But Hugh Jackman and this isgoing to get overlooked because
of the whole nature of the filmoverall but Hugh Jackman's
performance in this rivaledanything he did in Logan.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Like, honestly, like, especially that part at the end
when he's talking and I forgetexactly how he says it, but he's
just like, like you know, allmy whole life I was, I was a
failure, and it's like but I'mnot, I'm an X-Man, I'm the X-Man
, but like the way that HughJackmanman delivers that line,

(12:44):
that's that's definitely upthere with anything that he did
in some of his best performances, like in logan, where that
logan is the one that peoplecompare it to.
Like this is wolverine at itspeak.
This is definitely a differentfilm than that, for sure, but
just as powerfully acted as thatfilm and I think people are
going to sleep on that becauseit's a Deadpool movie.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, I mean, I um the line that stuck with me.
Unfortunately I don't rememberexactly, but it's one X 23.
Laura comes to Wolverine whenhe's sitting on the log and he's
like I'm not the one you relyon, or whatever.
And she's like, yeah, I know,but you'll still show up.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, he says I'm not the guy you think I am, I'm the
wrong guy.
And she says you were alwaysthe wrong guy until you weren't
and that perfectly sums upWolverine.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
And it's so good.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
I love that line and that summed up the whole
character arc of logan in like10 words that's like any
character arc, where it's likesomeone who has always been bad
and then makes the shift to good.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
You can just summon, summarize it and that you could
almost hugh jackman's take onwolverine almost every, I think
every single one of his films.
His character he's known asthis like gruff, angry, like you
know, cut your head off guy.
But his actions are alwaysmotivated by like love yeah you
got rogue and, like the firstthree, rogan, jean, you know, in

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the first three movies.
Then you have, like that womanthat pretended to be his wife in
x-men origins.
You have, uh, what's her namein x-men wolverine is it the
wolverine?
and the wolverine.
Yeah, um god, what is her name?
You know?
Not yukio, her yukio's frienduh silver samurai's daughter
yeah, you know like all.

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So he's, he's just, he's a bigold softy big old teddy bear and
then in logan, of course, withhis clone daughter laura.
Clone daughter Laura, that'swho his character is.
He's driven and motivated byfamily and I think that shines
through true here too and it'salmost like the loss of his

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family this time around and allthe mistakes he made.
And he turned it around almostand had his moment where he
could be the logan that he hearsabout, because this other one
was so incredible, yeah, and henever was that.
And then he was.
He got to be that logan in thisfilm.
If it wasn't such a funny movie, it'd tear your heart out.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
it's so good, it is so good, it is so good.
So let's dive into, I guess,any criticisms or weaknesses of
the film that we might have,because I think we all agree.
For me it was 10 out of 10.
That was a masterpiece.
I loved everything about it.
No, but I do have a coupleknocks, but it's not even really
about the film.
What's?

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Going on with the TVA.
Who are these people?

Speaker 3 (15:42):
What is?
This management hierarchy thatthey have in place and what is
with all these mid-levelmanagement characters that have
the power to destroy an entiretimeline and like it's like a
paperwork error and they likejoke about it and it's like what
the fuck is going on.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Terribly ran the tv so poorly ran and it's like the
most powerful organization everand it's just like random joe
schmoes, you know, wearing tvabadges, like they have the power
to fucking erase you from everytimeline, or your timeline, or
whatever send you to the void,to the void where there's no
escape.

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Like what the fuck is that?

Speaker 3 (16:20):
and they're just.
They don't have powers, they'rejust people.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, like just regular people, it's bonkers,
like it's so wild.
So I'm kind of tired of seeingthe chaos of the tva like of
just because it's starting tomake like no sense in terms of
the power cap or its purpose andhow it's ran and how it's
structured.
It's like these people likeyou're and there's just so many
of them and I need a little bitof like a synopsis of what the

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hell the TVA is in the MCU andwhat that's like.
I don't know if they'll deliverit either, just starting to
wear it a little bit.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
The new plan.
They're shifting awaycompletely from Kang.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
No more Kang.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
No more Kang, and we'll talk about this later
before we go into the big revealaround that.
But the new plan is in the nextavengers film, avengers
doomsday.
Um, something's going to happenthat's going to completely
shatter the multiversealtogether and bring it all into
one reality, essentially, andthat's going to be at the end of

(17:18):
the next avengers film.
It's probably going to be Peter.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Parker's your favorite, you know.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Get the fuck out of here.
So they recognize that as well.
And the multiverse it's a deadstory arc.
Now it's going away and they'reshifting directions and they're
shifting tones and we'll justsee how well they do it, but I
do like what I'm seeing as faras what they're going to try and

(17:47):
do to get this pulled off.
Yeah, because I'm with you.
That's my.
One of my main knocks is, eventhough it was a really good set
piece when it was Wolverine andDeadpool versus the Army of
Deadpools, I am kind of gettingthat multiverse burnout where
like I just I don't need that inevery movie.
You know that was the plot linefor like literally the last 10

(18:11):
movies.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, and I'm just, I'm kind of oh, there's multiple
versions of you, yeah, and it'sso weird I'm not a fan of the
inconsistencies of it, becausesometimes they look the exact
same.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Sometimes it's completely different actors.
Yeah, and why is it that?

Speaker 2 (18:23):
our character that we've been following around is
just so much better than all therest of them.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Like in this film Deadpool.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Like this Deadpool just slaughtered a hundred of
him.
Oh yeah, this.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Deadpool was the best Deadpool, but like to be able.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
It's not just like, oh yeah, he's the best.
It's like he took on a hundredof himself.
He has to be orders ofmagnitude better than every
other Deadpool.
It's like what?
How did we nail that?

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Because Wolverine was there.
Yeah right, he's not even fromthe Sacred Timeline.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I know he's from Wolverine and the Logan that was
there was the Wolverine he'sfrom the Fox Timeline, I mean I
timeline I mean I guess youcould.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
You could look at it as the tva were trying to pull
him into the sacred timeline.
So obviously he is specialcompared.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
They did say that in the beginning.
That's true he.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
He said he was mcu jesus.
You know and like he is Iunique.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Well, I think that was just paradox trying to get
but this logan was apparentlynot the best logan and he still
kicked ass, right he was theworst, logan yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
And seemingly he basically didn't Really have
much fighting experience.
He never was part of the X-Menand then turned his back on the
whole thing.
He slaughtered humans justregular Joes, but like he didn't
really have that muchexperience like fighting.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Real shit.
I think he was part of theX-Men.
But I think he was part of thex-men, but I think he was always
like a outsider, like he neverlike fully allowed himself to be
a part of the team because hedidn't want a family or whatever
.
Um, but I think he I think this, this version of logan went
through his fair share of warshe said yeah, he said he's been
around 200 years yeah, like I.

(20:02):
I don't think that he was justlike I think the whole he's the
worst logan thing has nothing todo with his ability.
I think it has more to do withhis choices that he's made and
that that's what I'm equating itto, because he's also like um
this, this version of, uh,wolverine, you know, fucked up

(20:24):
saber.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Killed him one swipe, I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Samurai style and the other versions of Wolverine had
a much harder time fightingSabretooth.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, I'm really glad about that.
I was all for all the fighting.
But at that point I'm like dowe need to keep seeing?
That to me would have felt liketoo much fan service.
It was just like okay, I gethe's from the other film, like
OK, cool, he does that and I'mlike great, let's move on.
Let's get into somethinginteresting.
Any thoughts on your criticismsbefore we move on?

Speaker 1 (20:57):
I honestly can't think of any that like jumped to
my mind watching it.
I would have to probably see itagain.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Maybe you're such a narrative dude.
How did you feel about thenarrative?
I know that's seemingly is theknock.
Is everybody saying that thestorytelling was weak?
To me, part of the storytellingis the dialogue and language
used to get there, and I thoughtthat was a tier S tier Um.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
I thought the story was great and I think I think it
had equal parts heart andcomedy and it and it had a
really good um barometer of whento do each right like a new one
to make you understand.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Deadpool is a human that, like he does, love his,
his family, his found family,and that's his main motivation
and it's really hard to balancethat yeah we've seen that with
thor, love and thunder, and, andfor me, I know that people
liked it, but that was myproblem with ragnarok as well is
, I didn't.
I felt like they really didn'tknow how to balance the heart

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and humor, um, and this, thiswas for me, it was like like the
funniest MCU film that's everbeen released, and it didn't
sacrifice the heart.
For me, the heart was stillthere and it was done well, and
so I think that's a difficultthing to pull off and I don't
know if it's specifically RyanReynolds' writing or if it just

(22:19):
happens to be like Sean Levy.
You know his direction.
But however they did it, theydid it well.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Well, let's talk about the big reveal that
happened like the same night ofthe release of this show.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, the whole con was happening around Marvel.
At that time I didn't even knowthat.
Is it Comic-Con or was it likean off Comic-Con?
It was Comic-Con.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
It was San Diego Comic-Con.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
How did I not?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
even hear about that happening.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
I thought that was in May.
I thought it was supposed tohappen in March or May.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
I got a press badge, yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
For Katie Richio.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
You guys didn't get yours.
No, nope, so I talked about itearlier, right?

Speaker 3 (22:55):
The big reveal is they're getting rid of Kang
altogether.
No more Kang movies.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
They're bringing back the Russo Bros Bringing.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Bring him back the Russo Bros.
Bring him back the Russo Bros.
The new big bad is the onewe've been wanting Well, me
specifically.
But we've been talking aboutfor a couple years now, doctor
Doom, doctor Doom.
But even bigger reveal thanthat is Robert Downey Jr is
going to play him.
What's your initial reaction tothat?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I only have one reaction total Fine.
As long to that, I only haveone reaction total fine as long
as long as he is still tonystark.
If he's just fucking dr doom andit's like, oh, he's gonna kill
the role and it's still probablygonna be a good movie.
But if he's not tony stark orthey somehow explain why he's

(23:47):
there, it's going to be a hugemiss, I think, on me and a lot
of the audience.
But if they want to say, oh,this universe, or I guess,
figuring it back in thatmultiverse, I don't know well
multiverse can apply very easilyto the beginning of the film.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
It's just by the end of it the multiverse is getting
shattered, so there's stillplenty of multiversal
opportunity.
To explain how tony stark is drdoom but then it's gonna
collide right.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
But again, now he's the tony stark.
We're gonna watch a whole filmand tony stark isn't gonna
comment on like this guythreatening the world like the
actual tony stark, like he's notgonna know.
Wouldn't the best way to fighttony stark as dr doom actual
tony stark, like he's not gonnaknow?
Wouldn't the best way to fighttony stark as dr doom be tony
stark?
In your world, so he's deadyeah, well, we're talking about

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multiverse, or we're stilltalking about the multiverse
though that idea.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
I think that I don't know if we're ever gonna see any
version of tony right come back, yeah so I I sent this.
This was the theory that I readkind of right off the rip.
I think that there's actuallysome credence to it.
I would like to see somevariation of this.
The theory that I saw thatpeople are kind of bouncing back

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and forth right now is DoctorDoom is going to be played by
Robert Downey Jr, because it istechnically Tony Stark, and in
this alternate timeline hisparents were murdered when he
was much younger.
He was like a baby and he getskidnapped by the Winter Soldier,
taken to Hydra and then DrDoom's family, the Von Dooms,

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are members of Hydra.
They raise Tony Stark inLatveria, which is where Dr
Doom's family, the Von Dooms,are members of Hydra.
They raised Tony Stark inLatveria, which is where Dr Doom
is from, and he's raised asVictor Von Doom, not Tony Stark.
But it's the same person butjust completely different
upbringing, and then that wouldbe the idea around why this
version of Tony Stark isactually Victor Von Doom.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
It's still I don't know.
He's getting paid $80 million.
I'll repeat that $80 million Iheard you To do one.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, you didn't have to repeat it One more time.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Two more times $80 million.
There's Doomsday Three moretimes Fantastic80 million.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
There's Doomsday Three more times, and there's
Fantastic Four and Secret Wars.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
I think his origin is going to Wait.
Oh, that's for all those films.
Yeah, yeah, oh, okay I thinkhis origin story is going to be
much more explained in theFantastic Four film and then
Doomsday is going to be.
It's going to be like theDoomsday movie.
It's going to be Dr Doom movie,kind of the way Infinity War
was Thanos' yeah 80 million.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
How much?
It's a lot of fucking money.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
All I'm saying is if Dr Doom is Tony Stark or if it's
the same person, that's reallythe only way I could think of
that actually making sense.
I don't want it to just be.
Tony Stark decided to be evilin one timeline.
I want something more organicthan that.
I don't want just like he'sTony Stark and then he decides

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to change his name to Victor VonDoom or not even Victor Von
Doom, just Tony Stark is DoctorDoom.
I would much rather a much moreingrained reason of why he's
and being raised by Hydra Wouldmake sense.
Would make much more sense to methan.
And it doesn't mean he willrepresent Hydra.
It just means that he has maybea completely different mindset

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and he could.
The movie could open with himkilling all of Hydra and taking
over Latveria as the newdictator.
It doesn't mean he has to be anagent of Hydra.
It just latveria as the newdictator, you know like.
It doesn't doesn't mean he hasto be an agent of hydra.
It just means that he was breddifferent than all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, all I'm saying is I need an explanation.
It's got to be damn good.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Well, I I want to open up because it's just being
awkward.
Yeah, I want to open it up forlike the things.
If it is, if kyle's right, thethings I'm excited for would be.
So if we get to secret warsright, because obviously, like
you know, it'll probablydoomsday will probably be about
doom story and maybe he wins orwho knows, whatever.
But secret wars is like thecollapsing of different

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multiverses, so we're gonna seewhere.
We will probably see chrisevans again as captain america.
We'll probably see, you know,people we know.
Imagine like those would creategreat scenes if steve rogers
sees tony but like it's don'tit's doom, but sees that it's
tony, or like spider-man or ifhe takes advantage of that, yeah

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, starts killing heroes, yeah,like spider-man sees his hero,
the you, the guy that helped him, is now evil.
I know you hate Spider-Man, butthat would be a great arc for
Spider-Man.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
How is that a great arc for Spider-Man?
Oh, you're not the same guy.
We'd have to fight him.
We've seen a slaughtering.
We just watched Deadpool.
He slaughtered himself hundredsof times over.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
And now this one arc.
The same arc applies to CaptainAmerica 2.
Spider-man was the closest toIron man.
I mean, I'd say War Machine wasfun.
I guess we're going to havePepper and Rhodey be up there
like Tony, tony.
Now we're getting into therealm of way too much cancer.
I don't want that.
I don't want that.
I don't want.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Machine.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
I guess, well, we're going to have Pepper and Rhodey
be up there like Tony.
See, now we're getting into therealm of way too much dancers.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
I don't want that.
I don't want that.
I don't want that Exactly, Idon't want the film.
It doesn't need to be aboutgive me Doctor Doom, give me
something new.
I don't need to see all thesepeople.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
So that's the only way I can see the same actor
playing Victor Von Doom is, ifhe's raised as Victor Von Doom,
because in this timeline hisparents died when he was a baby
and he was kidnapped and sent toLiberia and I'm agreeing with
that.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I'm just saying you present these opportunities for
characters who might recognize.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
don't want that I do think I don't want it.
I I don't want it to distract.
I don't give a fuck that itit's the same.
That's what I'm saying.
I want it to be an authenticstory to dr doom and have
something new.
I don't want 30 minutes in mytwo hour long movie about
characters having someexistential crisis because, oh,
that looks like tony I don'tgive a shit about that, but

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Doctor Doom's always been.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
He's a villain, but doesn't he kind of border on?
He does good things sometimes,very very.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, but it's never for the sake of it's never, for
the sake of his people.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
I thought it was always for the sake of Latveria,
latveria at the expense ofothers but we risk running into
like, presenting him as if he'slike similar to like magneto.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
It's not really the same thing.
What if they turn him into that?
I don't want him to be that.
I want him to be victor von doom, but dr doom doom is like is in
my oh yeah, okay I was gonnasay in my opinion, he's kind of
the way Magneto cares aboutmutants is the way Doom cares
about Latveria right, maybe Ithink Doctor Doom is an

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incredible villain, but I wouldmuch rather see rather than like
I would much rather see a veryruthless Walter White level of
methodical like approach than Iwould like to see another
Magneto like portrayal.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Well, he could still be methodical, but he could
still be like.
That's the biggest part ofThanos.
Right is Thanos is believable.
He's an alien, but he's humanLike you.
Root for him.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
I don't necessarily need that.
I want to see somebody come inand start killing.
So you want like evil.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Twisting their mustache, villain.
Not twisting mustache, I'm evilI don't want a caricature.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
I want someone to come in and I want, like I don't
want to.
Obviously this is just me, foryou know just being dramatic,
but I would love to see him comein and just fucking, like start
killing beloved heroes and justbe evil.
Didn't thanos do that?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
no, he snapped, and half the universe was gone.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Not well, not initially that's easier to take
than uh, than if you were tolike just start killing like
heroes, like I want him to beevil, evil.
I don't want I.
I want him to be evil, evil.
I don't want him to be likeFence sitter.
I don't want him to be likeBecause then it runs the risk of
he's going to, in the lastmoment, be like I'm doing this

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for my people.
That can be good and we've seenit done well with other
characters, but that's also beendone a lot.
I want the Avengers to go upagainst a threat that you know,
sometimes bad guys are just bad.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
You know we don't need to and I don't want it to
be interesting because he's 20Stark.
I want it to be interestingbecause he's a really good
Doctor Doom and a really goodvillain.
So let me read you this I gotthis little Marvel encyclopedia,
but he could easily go that way.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, I kind of see it.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Well, I think you're fucking right, that's my
prediction.
I think you're fucking right,because listen to this, you
ready for this Spoilers for thenext decade.
So I don't know how this bookis organized, but it looks like
there's three different, maybesub-stories to the character Dr
Doom here and this one is justcalled the doomed hero.
But effectively here it is thatdoom, working with molecule man

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, which I don't, I'm notfamiliar with, and Dr Strange,
basically went around andsalvaged portions of reality, uh
, of reality as a new battleworld.
A God like doom then installedhimself as ruler with Sue
Richards as his wife.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Um sounds like a real good guy, franklin.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Richards as his kids, and so then, basically, he had
survived.
The destruction of his realityappeared on the battleground.
Dooms control began to slip.
Read blah, blah, blah, blahblah.
So what I'm thinking of is okay.
What if he somehow tricks DrStrange into using your analogy
of what you think is going togonna happen, which I definitely

(33:46):
think it's plausible?
I'm just saying I don't want ityeah um, they somehow construct
this new reality and he said, hetakes the face of, like, the
most beloved hero on earth,which is tony fucking stark.
And so then that's the storythere.
So he's like I would like thathe right, because here's the
thing now it's technically nottony stark, it's dr doom.

(34:08):
He's just using his face.
I'm okay with that actually Icould see he creates like, a
regime like, but like he's yeah,and it's just like it's just
his physical appearance, becausehe he had seriously damaged
facial scars or whatever, andand that's why he's constructed
this new reality, and so that'sthe idea.
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
I could vibe with that.
Well, that's the thing, isBattleworld, that's Secret Wars,
so they are definitely goingfor it.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
They're doing that.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
And a lot of people think that it is going to be
Doom who's going to Well.
I mean you can connect the dots, but they think that Doom is
obviously going to well.
I mean it's you can connect thedots, but they think that doom
is obviously gonna do the samething where he kind of like
saves different part of realityand puts him into battle world
where he's the king which meansyou know that's exactly happened
in the comics.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah you know also what's funny at times he's been
portrayed as like a benevolentdictator, but like he's never
really been like good like he'sthe same as magneto, in my
opinion, where he he'll doanything for latveria?
If it benefits him specifically.
I think that's the difference.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
If it benefits, he's more yeah, he's more
self-centered than magneto is Ithink it's more of a power thing
but you're like thinking ofx-men 97 magneto no, that's
pretty commonly how magneto hasbeen portrayed for a long time.
I mean even think about all themovies and think about true but
I I just think there is good indoom and I think he's not

(35:38):
always been full you don't gottaalways try and find the good
people.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
I know.
I'm just saying I think, Ithink as a character, the way
he's written, he is that wayokay, I mean, if it, if it, if
they do play it that way, I'mnot gonna be upset, I just might
be a little let down I do like.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
I like billy's idea, though, that he came up with
where it's he's using his face.
That, in my opinion, that is.
I like that idea better, umthan the one that I was thinking
and like there's some ritual hedoes and all of a sudden he
gets his face.
Everyone knows it's not tonystark.
He's what he's magic right.
Well, here's he does have magic, yeah he's a scientific genius.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Knowledge of sorcery, yeah, learned from aliens on
how to physically transfer hisconsciousness into the body of
another person oh, I mean hecould transfer his body, his
mind into tony star armor is abattle suit that increases his
strength to superhuman levelsand contains highly advanced

(36:34):
weaponry.
So interesting thing is hiswalking around weight is 225.
When he's in his armor he's 415pounds damn damn you gotta be
yoked to be able to handle thatI mean.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
I'm sure it's augmented but it's still yeah
kyle, you were saying the comicsdo do something with the tony
doom I don't remember that likewhen we're talking to discord.
He said the comics kind ofplayed with the idea or they did
something where it was like aamalgamation of them.
I didn't, I didn't say that Idid mention that.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Um, they've always kind of they've always kind of
presented dr doom as, like, adefinite rival to tony stark
when it comes to likeintelligence.
And he's kind of like, if tonystark was evil you know, then dr
doom, but I don't remember itwasn't me that said that yeah,
so what do you think?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
do you think what would you guys like better if he
uses magic to create the faceof tony stark, or if he finds
tony stark in his world and likebody still ops?

Speaker 2 (37:34):
uh, yeah, to me.
I just want a quick explanationas to why he.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
So who would play like tony stark, like do you
think we'd see him?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
if I'm being honest, it would probably just be
someone really scarred with ashitload of makeup on it.
Would have been him, robertDowney Jr.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, if we're being honest, I don't like the fact
that we have to try and figureout that caveat before we get to
Doctor.
I would have preferred adifferent actor, if we're being
honest 100%.
But now that we know it is forsure, then now it forces us to
have this conversation of how ithappens and that feels like
it's um counter counteracting.

(38:09):
A better conversation of whatwe could be having is what is dr
doom going to do?
Yeah, not.
How does he become dr doom?
And I don't.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
That's why I'm not a huge fan of of this I do have to
say, though, the one thing,because I agree to an aspect.
The one thing is like on myMarvel faith-o-meter, right,
it's been kind of low with thewhole Kang multiverse thing it's
still.
It isn't hype levels, but withthe Russo's announcement it went

(38:38):
up a little bit, like I.
So which movies did the Russo?

Speaker 3 (38:40):
rather do they up a little bit like I.
So which movies did the they'reknown?

Speaker 1 (38:42):
quantity.
They did winter soldier, endgame, infinity war, civil war as
well and civil war, and sothey're a known quantity and I
know they did some of the best.
In my opinion, mc movie moviesof the of the infinity saga,
yeah, so, like my, my hypometerwent up a little bit.
It's not I'm not like superexcited, but I I have, like I

(39:09):
want, to have faith in them.
I really do, I.
I because I haven't had faithin any of the writers or
directors that they've beengiven the movies to I'm not like
against the.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
I'm a fan of where it's trending, you know.
But I I'm kind of with you, I'mnot like sold on yeah this is
gonna work.
Now, you know, and almost theannouncement of robert downey
jr's dr doom almost did adisservice for me.
Um, after the announcement ofthe russos, and so I just you

(39:43):
know, there was this meme thatbecause they were like the
greatest actor of all time andI'm not knocking rob downey-
junior because I I really likehim a lot actually.
But there's this meme where it'slike we got the greatest actor
of all time to play dr doom acharacter that deserves the
greatest actor of all time andhe takes off as robert downey jr
.
And somebody was like that'snot daniel day lewis, like I

(40:07):
would have that would have beenincredible that's what I'm
saying.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
There's, there's, no.
I feel like at this point Idon't know if the behind the
scenes maybe they're talkingabout this or whatever.
Maybe they didn't know.
Obviously this has been in thepipe, like like they didn't know
what level of success.
Maybe Deadpool and Wolverinewere going to be right, like
these deals take.
I mean, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
They figured this out .
Well, they've been talking tothe Russos for a while Exactly
so.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
they probably figured this out maybe a year ago.
Six months they're justplanning right.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
So they didn't really know how much this thing was
going to pop off.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
I bet you, as soon as Ant-Man flopped Ant-Man 3, they
were like fuck it.
Call the Russos Feige mightthink that the MCU, as we know
it, lives and dies with TonyStark.
And so it's like we have to finda way for Robert Downey Jr to
be in this, for people to stayinterested.
And it's like that becausereally all the original heroes,

(41:03):
they're all pretty much gone.
I mean, like we still have Thor, but that's in a bad place
right now, Like they're all inreally bad places.
So how do you, you know, how doyou connect that string, Like,
how do you pull that through?
And I think maybe what they'rethinking is okay, we'll just get
Robert Downey Jr to come backand he'll save the MCU because

(41:24):
it lives and dies with him, thiswill either be the best
business decision they've madein the last 10 years or the
worst.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
It could either be very successful or it can just
undo everything.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
You've got to be delicate.
No, I say that and it's likeknowing the people involved.
Like this is the OG crew, it'sRobert Downey Jr.
It's like knowing the peopleinvolved.
Like, this is the OG crew, it'sRobert Downey Jr.
It's going to be a good movie.
As a fan, it's probably justgoing to be.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
If they don't nail it , it's going to be awkward.
Who's going to lead the chargeagainst Doctor Doom Reed?

Speaker 2 (41:55):
The Fantastic Four?
Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
But it's weird because that's a period piece
that takes place in the 60s.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
So what are they going to do at the end of the
film to extend.
Well, you were saying Wait,what the?

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Fantastic Four film.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
It's a period piece.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
It takes place in the 60s.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
So the movie where they were in outer space and
stuff that's not really theirorigin story.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
No, that's Fox.
So that is the MCU technically,but that's Fox.
So that is the MCU technically,but that's not the one that's
going to bring this version ofDoctor.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Who they are still probably going to be in space.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Maybe In the 60s.
Yeah, I'm like, okay, thatseems weird.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (42:33):

Speaker 2 (42:34):
And then Tony Stark is like is it his dad then?

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Well, it could be Howard, That'd be interesting.
But well, kyle, you were sayingthey bring, so that brings more
credence to your theory that hejust steals his face.
Yeah, um, you were saying thatthe, the universes collide,
right?
So that's how they bring himforward, I guess well, they
don't.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
They don't collide until secret wars.
So the whole doomsday moviewould not take place with all
these other what if it collidesbeforehand?
but that's the whole thing withsecret wars, is it all
culminates?
Well, the all of the realitiescombining and then battle worlds
created and so that's secretwars.
So it would have to.

(43:17):
The whole course of the moviewould have to be all of these
multiverses crashing in on oneanother and maybe, before that
happens, maybe Doctor Doom hasfound a way to battle.
I mean, go in and out ofdifferent realities and stuff.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, what if Doomsday is the multiverse
shattering and Secret Wars isBattleworld Like?

Speaker 3 (43:40):
specifically oh, I mean, that's 100, what's?

Speaker 1 (43:42):
gonna be.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
I'm just saying that's.
There's a whole movie that hasto happen before that happens.
Yeah, you know what I mean,which.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
So I'm trying to figure out and I wonder do you
know, even though it's a periodpiece.
Do you know, kyle?
Is it like fallout, where it'slike it's?

Speaker 3 (44:00):
an alternate reality.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
It's an alternate reality, but still running at
this like it's still 2020,whatever my theory, but they're
just used like different tech.
They all use old technology orsomething like that well, it's
so.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
here's the thing this version of fantastic four
because it does take place inthe 60s it doesn't happen on
earth 616.
Yeah, it has to happen in adifferent reality, otherwise the
Avengers would have heard ofthe Fantastic Four fighting this
Dr Doom guy.
So maybe at the end of thatfilm something happens that

(44:32):
brings them into Earth 616.
Doomsday is around that.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
And then he shatters the multiverse.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
What if, right after Tony Stark dies in 616, that's
when.
That's when Doctor Doomtransfers his consciousness into
Tony Stark?
Maybe it has something to dowith.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I'd be willing to bet that, for even though they
never mentioned it up until theDeadpool films.
But maybe Tony Stark was theanchor being for 616.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
And him dying.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
And that might have something to do with it, and
then the TVA sent Doctor Doom todo this into that universe, or
he took control of the To keepthe timeline alive.
That might.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Or he took control of the To keep the timeline alive.
Something with that might comeinto play too, because I could
very easily see Tony Stark beingthe anchor being for 616.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
You think they can use the term anchor being and
still have an understanding Withthe audience.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Because it was?
Because Rays are exclusionary.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Partly that, and it's also just like.
It's just kind of like aone-off film and that's such a
defining thing in the universenow.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Well, so we have to think about what Kevin Feige
said.
He said that if it's a level 8.
Yeah, he said, if Infinity Warand Endgame are level 9 and 10,
as in terms of effect they haveon the MCU, deadpool's an 8.
So there has to have beensomething that happened in this
movie that has an overallprofound effect on the mcu.

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We just don't really know whatit was yet.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
So there's something that so the anchor being, seems
like the obvious thing thatseems a big deal, well, but the
thing is, is they keptreferencing 616 as the sacred
timeline?

Speaker 2 (46:23):
What does that even mean at this point?

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Yeah.
So I mean, does that do they?
Does the sacred timeline needan anchor being, or was it just
the offshoot.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
And why is it sacred?

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Maybe it's the sacred timeline, because every time it
goes in a direction that theydon't like, they're slowly like
adding things to it.
To, you know, and maybe somehowdr doom, at the end of
fantastic four or some point inthe doomsday movie, realizes
that and he takes over, somehowasserts himself into tony

(46:55):
stark's consciousness and mindin the sacred timeline, and
that's how he, you know, is tonystark, or whatever we did see
wanda put her mind acrossmultiverses.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Yeah, that's this thing.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
We know that can happen, dr doom, he does magic
dr doom is more powerful than drstrange as well when it comes
to magic.
Um, he's like mastery over it,but also he has a tony, stark
level iron man suit, basicallyyeah and um, he's supremely

(47:30):
intelligent.
He can outthink anyone, say, formaybe like reed richards, which
has been kind of a joke in themcu.
But reed richards, uh, is kindof like his, the antithesis uh
to to dr doom.
So is tony stark?
I'd say tony stark, reedrichards and dr doom are like
the three most intelligentbeings, powerhouse.

(47:52):
Uh, when it comes to that room,you know, I think pym is more
specialized though.
Yeah, he's not, he's not asoverall like same as also old,
like bruce banner.
Yeah, he's very intelligent, buthis, his gamma, his
intelligence limits, is morespecified in one area versus
they're kind of like jack of alltrades, these other characters

(48:14):
just everything.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, um, more of a to go to more fun theory
crafting, would you guys?
Because I read there'sdifferent versions of dr doom as
far as why he wears the maskand how his face is scarred.
There's some where it's just atiny cut and he, like that,
horrifies him because he's sovain and so that's why you wear
the mask and the other is likehis face is just deformed.

(48:37):
What would you guys prefer?
I, I think the tiny cut wouldbe funny I think it would be.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
It might be good for his character.
Yeah, you know, if like, maybenot even a cut, maybe he's just
so upset with like just the mostminor of things, like the
asymmetry of like freckles youknow like and how, how like.
That could be kind of poetic ina way where they're like
talking about the monster withinand he's constantly hiding and

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he takes it off at one point andhe like looks perfect.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
You know, what.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
I mean, that could be pretty heavy symbolism.
Brace yourselves, but who wouldplay that Apparently?

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Robert Downey Jr.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Oh wait, but that wouldn't be his true self, right
.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
If we're going with the theory.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
They could still very much have two different actors
playing the same character.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
How much is it actually going to be Tony Stark?
Because he's just going amassedthe whole time.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Yeah, I mean they could have a whole different
actor playing Doctor Doom andthen he could just take over the
body of Tony Stark in like thelast.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Five minutes.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Not the last five minutes but, like you know, a
portion of it.
Thirteen at least, yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Daniel Day-Lewis, I do agree it sucks that.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
This is what we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Yeah, I feel like the conversation could be a lot
more fun if we weren't having todiscuss a whole theory on why
Robert Downey Jr is, and theycould just be, like you know,
not even mention it at all.
Maybe he pretend?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
yeah, I'm the dude playing the dude disguised as
another dude well, what kind ofmagic does dr doom have, because
his is like green?
Is it green?

Speaker 3 (50:17):
it's uh, it's magic of the dark arts, meaning
basically all.
It's like the dark hole it'sall of the stuff that um wanda,
that the sorcerer, sorcerersaren't allowed to study.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
oh, it's that shit.
Do you think then they're gonnaprime benedict coverbatch to be
like, become sorcerer supremeto take him down?

Speaker 1 (50:40):
I don't you know, ever since they made him not the
Sorcerer Supreme?
He kind of has nothing to do.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Well, this could very easily give him something to do
.
So would they kill Wong?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
No, he just hands him the crown Because it's not like
Wong has to be it forever now.
Who do you?

Speaker 3 (50:58):
think are going to be the big players against Doom?
Definitely strange.
Obviously the Fantastic Four.
It has to be it forever now.
Who do you think are going?

Speaker 1 (51:01):
to be the big players against Doom, is it?

Speaker 3 (51:02):
characters.
Obviously the Fantastic Four,but Reed Richards specifically
has to be one of the bigcharacters against Doom.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Pedro Pascal.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
I think Doctor Strange has to be, Pedro Pascal
is playing Reed Richards.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Pedro Pascal is Reed Richards.
We talked about it.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
I thought yeah, I thought it was a joke.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
I thought they were going to move on from that.
After the reaction of people.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I'm excited for him.
I love Pedro.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
I'm a little saturated.
He's definitely got to be oneof them.
It would make sense that DoctorStrange would be one of the big
players.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
I don't think Thor could be in that movie.
I think he could be in it, butI don't think he's going in that
movie.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
I think he could.
He could be in it, but I don'tthink he's going to be One of
the big players against theDeadpool thing.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
He'll be off with.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Deadpool why is he crying?

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Why is Thor crying?

Speaker 3 (51:54):
That happens in 616.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
I think Franklin Richards is going to be a big
thing Could be.
Franklin Richards is the son ofExtremely powerful.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
What do they call it?
Richards is going to be a bigthing.
I think franklin richards isthe son of extremely powerful.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Who's?
Uh?
What do they call it?
Like the, I forget, like one ofthe supreme being, or something
?

Speaker 3 (52:07):
he's like on the level of fully dark hold wanda
yeah, as far as power goes, likehe can create pocket universes
it's like him odin and her.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah, as like the like the strongest.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Oh, the words escaping me Keep going.
Yeah, do you?
I mean, I know as much as Billyhates it.
Spider-man.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
I don't think.
I think he'll be a.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
You think he'll be with Deadpool and Thor.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
I think he'll be.
He'll be important, but I don'tthink he's going to be a main
player against Doctor Doom.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Doctor Doom.
Yeah, doom.
Dr Doom, yeah, okay, sam, evensaying that, my face kind of
went yeah you.
Captain America, captainAmerica.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Well, I don't think that.
I think he'll be involved, butI think he's not going to be.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Mr no Powers, I don't think he's going to be leading
the charge.
Shang-chi.
Whatever happened to himDepends on Shang-Chi 2.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Did he get canceled that movie did?

Speaker 2 (53:07):
so well.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
No, they're making the two, they're still.
Yeah, they've just reallyslowed down.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
So I mean, depends on the second film.
I guess with Shang-Chi he couldbe a big player.
Um, who else we got?
We got deadpool.
I don't think.
I mean, we know he's going tointeract with thor somehow I
wonder if they've released acast list.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
yeah, on doomsday, doomsday, and they named it that
on purpose, to like make peoplethink of the Avengers instead
of Doomsday from Superman.
Yeah, plot under wraps so far.
The Fantastic Four is for suregoing to be in Doomsday.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Pedro Pascal, vanessa Kirby, that should be obvious.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
The only actors confirmed for that movie so far
is Robert Downey Jr in theFantastic.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Four.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
For Doomsday.
Joseph Quinn is Johnny Storm.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
What if they bring back?
Do you think they would bringback Wanda?

Speaker 3 (54:09):
They would, but I'm kind of over Wanda.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Because they didn't show her.
You know, they did the wholelike her body.
She may or may not be actuallydead.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
What about Vision?
What's this fuck been doing man?
He's making Vision quests.
He comes to a realization thatflies off.
We never see him again.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
For ten years.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
So Franklin Richards son of Reed and Sue in Fantastic
Four, was one of the mostpowerful mutants on Earth.
As a young boy, he began toexhibit immense psionic powers,
Using his ability to seepossible futures.
He became a member of the PowerPack under the name Tattletail.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Power Pack Tattletail God, that's a sucky-ass name.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Tattletail and Nathaniel Richards.
His grandfather raised himoutside, raised him in a realm
outside of time where he becamethe adult adventurer Psylord and
founded the Fantastic ForceBefore Hyperstorm erased his
adult form from existence.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
So, he's a permanent kid Hyperstorm.
So, does it say?

Speaker 1 (55:10):
what kind of being he is Did it have the answer?

Speaker 2 (55:13):
No, I don't see it you would absolutely hate this
character.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
I know I just realized that you would
absolutely hate this character.
I'm literally realizing that,because I'm like, oh it's cool,
and I'm like he's like a12-year-old, he's a permanent
kid and you're like, my faithhas been shattered, so I guess I
don't know if they'd reallyventure into doing that,
bringing Franklin Richards in.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
In chat they say they're bringing Wanda back for
the new show on Disney.
For the new show on Disney, theAgatha all along.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
In what capacity though?
I wonder Is it going to be like?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Is it Evil Wanda?

Speaker 3 (55:50):
I mean, it seems pretty obvious that she didn't
die.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yeah, I mean, but like, who are the heavy hitters?
In my opinion, I know as muchas you are sick of him, he are
the heavy hitters In my opinion,I know as much as you are sick
of him he's a heavy hitter.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Even I'm not necessarily a fan of Spider-Man,
though I'm talking about peoplethat are going to lead the
offense, they're bringing herback for the new show on Disney.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah, we just said that.
Oh, sorry, sorry.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Thanks for listening to us.
It really makes me feelappreciated.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Someone has to ignore you, echo.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Hawkeye, some random street level fighter, what about
?

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Guardians.
I guess we could have theGuardians.
I don't know how much they'dLike who from the Guardians we
have.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Honestly, I don't think it's gonna be anybody that
was big players during theinfinity saga so okay so try to
think, except for strange exceptfor strange.
Strange was probably thebiggest player of the infinity
saga, but it wasn't like he wasthe one leading the chart.
He saw this all happening, buthe kind of just let it happen.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
I think his effect might bedifferent.
I mean, even when it comes toGuardians, characters.
What is his name?
Adam Warlock.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Adam Warlock would be really cool seeing a
full-strength Adam Warlock, notlike a kid, adam Warlock, not
like a stupid baby.
I guess you got.
You got america, chavez, Idon't know and I don't.
I think it's, I think reallyit's going to come down to the
fantastic.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Yeah, it's gonna what about do you think they're
going to bring the x-men?
The x-men could be huge.
Yeah, like, because I was I wasexpecting and kind of surprised
that we didn't learn anythingreally about like how, like what
was happening with, um, the foxuniverse, like you know, just

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kind of the way deadpool endedwas everybody survived and
they're all happy and togetherin the fox universe still yeah,
they didn't go into, they didn'tgo into 616.
So I wonder if they're they aregoing to bring the mutants over,
or what they're going to dowith that.
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (58:14):
no idea, I think it's just we're so far out from like
the plot.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Who knows like they're probably writing the
plot, right yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I mean honestly, like I don't even know what they're
even gonna go into.
I mean it's what's the setting?
Is it in the 60s or in thefuture, or like that's gonna
completely change how all thisworks.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
You know, like who can be involved, because then
spider-man can't be involvedwell then, we don't know too,
like I was saying, is it?
Is it just it's the same time?
It's just like Fallout, wheretechnology never advanced past
the 60s.
I don't know, you know, becauseit could be that too.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
I don't think it's that.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
No, so it's just like a warped reality that is just
stuck in time.
Well, not stuck in time.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
But they took a different direction and they
never like their technologicaladvances Apparently.
I mean, just stayed lookinglike 60s.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Apparently, henry Cavill has been cast for more
than just a cameo, really, yeah,but like, is he just going to
play Wolverine or would heactually play like his own
character?
You know what?
Loki, have him be Loki.
He just gonna play wolverine,or is he?
Would he actually play like, uh, his own?

Speaker 2 (59:22):
character you know what loki have him be loki.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
No, no loki.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Oh, I know could stand up against dr doom loki
could be a huge player, now thathe's like an anti-hero because
he could then like he couldmimic himself, right.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
So he's still actually his physical form, is
holding, holding shit down andhe's actually like conversing
with dr doom and at some pointthey leverage him as like hey, I
have the power to erase youfrom all realities.
You can keep fucking aroundlike this.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Well, reality you would love that, but they're not
going to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
That wouldn't.
Loki loses a lot of that powerat the end of Doomsday if all
the realities become one.
So then, loki goes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
He has no bargaining chip.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
He basically goes back to how he was pre Loki TV
show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Yeah, but maybe that Feige says that that's the right
thing to do.
What Maybe Feige says that'sthe right thing to do?

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
What is the right thing to do?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
To combine all stories into one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
I love how he simps so hard for Loki and yet when we
do this about Spider-Man, he'slike oh my God, you guys are so
funny, but he does the exactsame shit for.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Loki.
He's a quality actor.
Tom Hiddlesticks.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Yeah, tom Hiddlesticks, not Tom
Hiddlesticks.
Baby, wrong Tom.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Not the other, tom.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
No, he goes by, tommy .
What?

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Tommy, I don't think they call him Tommy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
He's not even that much younger than us.
He's in his mid-20s, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
And he actually plays .
He's a great actor.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
I have nothing against him from that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Did we read this one?
Did you guys ever read SecretWars or anything leading up to
Secret Wars?
A long-ass time ago.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
I didn't.
I almost don't want to, I knowstuff that happens.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
He's going to read it right now I'm going to pull it
all off.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
No, actually I'm looking to see when it came out
Like one part that excites meand I know you're going to just
instantly turn off your ears,billy but Spider-Man yes, no,
secret Wars is originally whenhe gets his black suit.
They retconned that.
They retconned it to make itlike an asteroid, but in the

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comics that's the first time yousee it is because it's like a
gladiator.
Battle World is like agladiator world and they have
sets of weapons and stuff.
And there's this armor andthat's the black suit.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
He was actually even more powerful with the black
suit originally.
Was the black suit originallyand it was because venom.
It wasn't venom originally well, it was, but it's different.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
So the original origin story is peter's getting
fucked up in battle worldthrough drugs yeah yeah, no,
through fighting why so myquestion is can I just stop you
real quick right there and he no, I was in the middle of I want
to talk about battle world likeyeah, we still have time.
Okay, okay, sorry where?
Okay, okay, sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Where was I?
He was getting fucked up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
On drugs, yeah, on drugs.
So he needed the suit so thesuit was given to him on
Battleworld and it uses a livingorganism to enhance all of his
abilities, and that was theoriginal way that he brought in
the black suit, and then theyretconned that in the series, so
that is probably still a way.
That's all I wanted to say.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
I just had a quick question.
What is Battleworld?
I've read it a couple timeshere.
Why do we care about it?
Is it just some alternatereality?
That's self-contained If?

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
I remember right, the Beyonder was the one that
originally.
I think I read that.
I have to look it up.
I think the Beyonder was theone that originally brought
everyone in, but basically it'sthe Colosseum for all
super-powered beings and theyfight to the death he wants to
watch them fight, so what's?

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
the problem with that .
What do you mean?
Why does it need to be saved?

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Forcing heroes to kill each other.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
But if it's in to kill each other Like, all
realities become that no otherreality exists but that, oh yeah
, everybody is forced to fighteach other Like it's, they're
Boy, they're gonna definitelyhave to break up the TTA.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
What if Henry Cavill's playing the Beholder?

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Yeah, henry he does the fist pump Honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Henry Cavill kind of does look like the beyonder the
boundaries.
Got like that dark hair and butkind of handsome.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
So you get why.
Why now?
It's important?
Because it's like all theworlds collapse into the battle
world and then there's someonethey're forced to fight.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Dr doom's the dictator of that world yeah,
yeah, well, the beyonders,originally dr doom kind of takes
over because somehow heoutsmarts the Beyonder.
I don't remember how.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
What does the Beyonder look like?

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
That kind of does look like Henry Cavill.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Heck, that could be him.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
That's the Beyonder.
That wouldn't work now thathe's been cameoed as Wolverine,
though.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Have you read the Secret Wars, Daniel?
I'm curious.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Honestly, I was probably like 10 last time I
read it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
You guys are right, then they're going to have to
absolutely nuke the entire ideaof the TVA and everything to
have this battle world.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
And I hope it's gritty.
I do hope we see Spider-Man getbeat up so that he needs the
black suit, but I want to seehim.
I want to see beloved heroesdie.
Yeah, I want it to be real, notjust a candy land.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
I want real stakes.
What if Hulk had his headripped off?
That's very possible.
Who could do that?
I don't know if.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Canonically, I don't.
There are definitely beings outthere.
Beyonder could kill all of themeasily, really.
Yeah, look up Beyonder's powerlevels.
Right now he is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Wolverine and Doctor Doom outsmarted him.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Yeah, yeah.
Isn't he beyond.
That's the guy that we're.
That's why we need someoneamazing to pull this off.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
And I guess that was.
And we fucking kill Samuel.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
L Jackson.
I just start recasting it it'schris evans everyone's just
getting oh my god, chris evans.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
See, that's the stupid thing, because they they
now they're going to be enticedto bring some of these
characters back for shit likethat, and be like well, you can
just take on a new role they'vealready already shown in
Deadpool that one charactercould play two different people
and not be related with ChrisEvans.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
It doesn't look like he's necessarily one being.
It's a race of cosmicallypowered beings named the
Beyonders and created the energythat became the cosmic cubes.
Is that separate from InfinityStones?
They'll probably say it'sInfinity.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Stones.
They'll probably say it'sInfinity Stones.
I bet they'll be like InfinityStones.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
So these guys created the Infinity Stones.
They'll probably say that Oneof these cubes gained sentience
and called itself the Beyonder.
Okay, and he looks like HenryCavill.
Wow, and at times this entitywas believed to be the
embodiment of another universe,or even mutant inhuman.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Oh, I did have a question.
So while he reads that FranklinRichards is a mutant but the
Fantastic Four aren't, no, theygot their powers through other
means.
Humans can have mutant children, I know, but so how do you
distinct between them justpassing down powers, because
they had very well could be, buthe was the mutants really.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
All really is if you're a mutant is if you're
born on earth and you're bornwith those powers, then you kind
of just get classified as amutant, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Yeah, okay, that makes sense yeah, dude, this guy
is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
I don't even know how you capture this on henry
cavill like if this guy goes 1v1versus Spider-Man, it's a
fucking joke.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Well, that's his thing.
He would never go 1v1 against ahero.
But, he finds enjoyment out ofwatching it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Yeah, virtually omnipotent, the Beyonder can
change reality just by thinking.
He has assumed various physicalforms, created planets, planets
, destroyed galaxies and takingcontrol of every mind on earth
yep and dr doom outsmarts himwho's?

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
human.
So this is just a super quicksynopsis.
All right, this probablydoesn't encapsulate all that
happens.
But while the beyondersdecimate, this is how he
collapsesulate all that happens.
But while the beyondersdecimate, this is how he
collapses the multiverse, drdoom.
While the beyonders decimatedall who oppose them, including
cosmic entities.
Doom built a bomb using themolecule men after he had

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realized killing them was notgoing to save the multiverse.
Doom used the molecule men bombto slay the beyonders and then
steal their power.
So there's going to be a lotthat goes into it.
But Doom essentially either atthe end of Secret Wars or at the
end of his own film, is goingto do this to this guy somehow.

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If they pull this off in asuccessful way, it's going to be
fucking insane.
Yeah, it's going to be the mostwild shit you've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
You know who?
We could have Big Hero 6.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Naturally.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
I didn't know that was a thing before Disney.
Look at that it says September1998 was the first time Big Hero
6 appeared.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Big Hero 6, that's why Stan Lee makes a cameo in
that movie.
It's a Marvel film.
It's a cartoon.
It's a Marvel film.
It's cartoons Pixar.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
But still he could show up in Battleworld, but the
fact that he could how do theyportray someone like this on
film?

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
I don't know, because he can literally warp reality.
Oh, which is reality bythinking?

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
They probably scale him way down.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
They could take, yeah , like Midget Hewlett-Jackman.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Like literally scale him, thinking they probably
scale way down, they could take.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Yeah, like uh midget, uh, uh, jackman, he's just a
little guy, but um, no, it's.
He could literally just fuckingthink oh, I'm gonna swap the
incredible hulk.
His hands are now fucking gluedtogether, you know, or?
Or you know like yeah, exactly,you can't fucking like.
Wanda or he's stuck in theground or his muscles are

(01:09:27):
actually water balloons.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Yeah, like.
So what ultimately would haveto trip him up is the fact that
he it has to be his own vanityLike he, so somehow it has to be
his own vanity like he, sosomehow he has to appeal.
Somehow dr doom has to dosomething that appeals to the

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beyonder, um, in a way that he'sgonna have to figure out a way
to outsmart him but he's in away that only potent.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
I got that's, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Occupation is criminal that's what he does
what are you?
I'm a professional criminal.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
I'm professional did you guys see not to change
topics, but you reminded me, sothey did test footage of
Fantastic Four or something likethat at Comic Con.
Did you see the leaked image ofGalactus?
Yes, no.
No.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
You guys want to look it up?
Leaked image of Galactus.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
How does that look?

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
He looks pretty cool.
It's better than a cloud.
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Doctor Doom's greatest power-up happened in
Secret Wars, where he amassed somuch raw power that he became
hailed as God Emperor Doom.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
That's not the image.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
This is the one you were hyping.
No, this is the greatest.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
That's like a future.
Fights Like a mobile app.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
No, go to like images .
It's him Looking through likeright there, that middle one
down, right there, that's theone down.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Down Fortnite Season 4.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Right there, that's the one.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
That's a leaked image .

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Yeah, so, and this is like they just started filming.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Can we make it so they can see?
Yeah, I am Okay, I just want topull it up.
Here we go.
Oh, hold on, here we go, boom,there we go, boom, there we go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
He almost reminds me of dormammu.
I think it looks cool.
I think it.
It reminds me of like theeternals, like the um, I mean he
is I'm trying to get a sense ofscale like is this just?

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
like a, like six feet feet from nose to eyebrow, or
is he much bigger than that?

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Who knows, maybe he can shrink himself.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Is Galactus a hero or a villain?
Villain, he's a villain.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
He literally eats planets.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
So where's our heroes coming from?

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
That's what I'm saying who are the players?

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Spider-Man, I'll tell you that much.
He's Fantastic Four guy.
Who are the players?
It's not Spider-Man, he's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Fantastic Four guy and they got, they cast the
Silver Surfer and that's theirwhole story.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
That's Harold.
They cast Silver Surfer and thefemale version of Silver Surfer
.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
And that's the whole story.
The only reason the FantasticFour win is because Silver
Surfer becomes a good guy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Slash girl Good girl Silver Surfer is very powerful.
He's, you know, like Supermanlevel of powers, but he's up
there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Didn't he make an appearance in Fantastic Four?

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
In the OG Fox, one yeah, voiced by Lawrence
Fishburne Morpheus Really, Ididn't know that that guy's a
stud.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Yeah, I mean I that that guy's a stud.
Yeah, I mean I feel like.
I feel like it's still set upFor the Eternals.
It is, but you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
But they seemingly abandoned that.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
It's like, okay, you had Superman In Marvel.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
It's Blade.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
There's only one Blade, motherfucker Galactus.
I've come to bargain.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
It's Blade.
They're going to bring Blade in.
There's only one Blade,motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Galactus.
I've come to bargain.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Like do we sit here?
He has to become SupremeStrange.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Do we sit here and do we say, you know, we just have
to have faith in Marvel, or,like Kevin Feige, or should we
panic that they are?

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
shooting really high.
The sad thing is, if they'regoing to play with Galactus, his
scale makes everything awkward.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
You can't show combat unless he's fighting other
eternal beings unless he'sfighting Ant-Man, who can scale
up to him?

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
just have a fucking fist fight.
It's just like a boxing match.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
No powers is tall well, so I mean this is from the
movie the fantastic four movie.
So what that tells me is thatthe movie fantastic four, the
main villain is probably goingto be Galactus and not Doom.
He has to have like Like he'llshow up probably, but the main

(01:14:10):
villain is Galactus.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
I think they're going to scale down powers, or do you
think?

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
they like, solicit the help from another Celestial
they could do that too.
Or whatever we have like afucking.
I'm a fire in my laser momentwhere they just what if Doctor
Doom somehow absorbs the powerof Galactus?

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Doctor Doom will get involved and he will help like
truthfully only if it benefitshim.
So if he sees some kind ofoutcome of like if I help them I
can usurp these powers somehow,he'll jump in For sure.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
What if, like, the movie pauses and, like, the
watcher walks out and it's likenot on my watch, not on my watch
, and then the movie just endssnaps his fingers and resets
reality but he can't do that, hejust watches doesn't get
involved

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
it's illegal it's against the rules.
The one above all says so.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
I don't know man.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
Now we're just getting ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Now we finally are ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
If you could imagine any of these things, even being
in the discussion 10 years ago,no one was thinking this.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
We're going to kill offony stark and then we're
gonna bring him back.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
We're gonna introduce ?
Are you the insanity of allthese superpowered characters?

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
look I am a little disappointed that I do like.
I'm happy that galactus lookslike that and he's not a cloud,
but I am kind of sad that that'swho they're going to use for
the first Fantastic Four movie.
Yeah, it seems like a lot.
What if?
And we've already seen thatmovie.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Hold on, though.
If we're talking about thedream, what is it?
The dream world or battle world, Battle world?
Yeah, couldn't it betheoretically possible that
fucking Odin's there?
Yeah, no, I mean it could.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
That would be legit A supreme-powered Odin, because
we're all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Well, he fucking is yeah, like that would be sick
when he's like full-powered.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
It's the Loki-type thing again, where he's just
like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
It's the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Yeah, what is?

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
it, yes, it's that whole side of the spectrum where
they're just, they're the onlyones that have the right power
scale for this.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
Alright.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Odin can.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
Well, no, here we go, A young version of Odin Henry
Cavill.
Dude, that's what I'm saying,henry.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Cavill's British.
It's confirmed, naturally.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
I don't think he's going to be in Battleworld,
because I think he's the mainvillain of the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
That's why he's crying Because he's sad that his
dad's better looking than himnow.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Who's crying?
Thor With Deadpool yes, but Idon't think Galactus is going to
be involved.
Did it look like?

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Thor.
It looked like Matt Damon,didn't it?
No, it was Thor.
It was stock footage from theDark World in, didn't it?
No, it's thor.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
It did that was but it was like old, it was stock
footage from the dark world wasit.
That's why it looked weird okayokay, um, just because he'll be
in the first movie doesn't meanhe's gonna just end I know, but
I'm just saying I don't, likehe said, who can rise up to
fight him.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
I think it's gonna just be the fantastic four, like
I think, and doom and thesilver surfers let me stretch
around him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
I got him.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
I know His powers honestly Reed.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Richards his powers of stretching this.
That's actually just such asmall part of what he offers to
anything.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
It's really his intellect.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Strategic planning estate planning financial.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
He's really good at setting up trusts, forecasting.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Don't worry, guys, we're going to get your stocks
all set Mergers acquisitions.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
He's kind of like a jack-of-all-trades financial.
He'll handle it all.
It's incredible what he can dowith your estate.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
He's the king of the forex market.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
He'll help you make four figures.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
I don't know.
Wouldn't that be kind of sickthough?

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
We're already introduced to Odin.
I'm making tens of dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
What if it's Odin and Hela in their prime and they're
fucking rolling, they'rerolling in there.
They're fucking rolling.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
I'm for it, I not.
You're not.
I feel the same way you feelabout spider-man.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
How does it feel, you feel that hate boiling in that
gut, that lower gut, but it'sjust funny.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Oh okay, it's funny it's just funny that uh, you're
again franklin hypocrite yeah

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
franklin.
So Daniel says again FranklinRichards makes Galactus his
bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
He does Franklin Richards.
We're talking about who canfight the Beyonder 2 on top of
that.
Franklin Richards can easily.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Oh and I immediately hate this movie because it's a
12-year-old gone.
I got Galactus Like he's.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Peter Pan or something.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Well, we don't even know if his kid's in the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
Do we?

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
No, but in theory it's possible If Galactus is
there, but they beat him lasttime in the Fox universe without
Franklin.
They beat Galactus, they did.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
That was a very poor rendition of Galactus?

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
I don't even recall it was Silver Surfer.
Is that where?

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
they shot the thing into the sky or whatever.
No Silver.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Surfer like led him away You're thinking of October
Sky.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
It's a movie with Jake Gyllenhaal about model
rockets.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Yes, that movie, that one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Yeah, floating things , flying things?
Yeah, no, dude, that would bekind of sick.
Odin and Hela, just fullfucking power.
We're already introduced to thecharacters.
We already know their powerscale.
Odin had to be nerfed for thisto make any sense.
Well, you know what You'veintroduced Power Creep.
All right, your game hasevolved.
There's Power Creep.
Let's bring back some power.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
You want this so bad Because it would be sick.
Henry Cavill is fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Odin in his prime, literally the fucking dude.
Every list starts with him aslike the supreme power.
I'm so happy that you'reexcited.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Juiced.
My believability that this willhappen is like at one Juiced
Out of 100.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
I don't think I've ever gotten more than 10%,
though, in this wholeconversation about anything we
discussed and whether or notthese things are going to happen
.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Oh, I think we're at 0% of us predicting anything.
I think that we've what if wenail it.
Let me.
Let's take a wild guess here,Iron Patriot is going Brody.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Brody baby, Bring him back.
No Iron Patriot, Harry orMagneto comes back and saves the
day.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
and saves the day.
Galactus is all iron.
He just moves and crushes him.
You're mine bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
He's controlling him like a puppet in a fight.
What's happening?

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Is Doom.
Is his metal not work againstMagneto, or could Magneto just
fuck him up?

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
His is completely non-magnetic the Moon Knight.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
I mean, he's in the universe, you guys are killing
me.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
Lol, molecule man Well he's going to be in the.
They need a bomb he's one ofthe contributing parties to
defeating the Beyonder Moleculeman.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
They create a bomb out of him.
Tom Cruise plays him.
He's 5'7er Molecule man.
They create a bomb out of him.
Tom Cruise plays him Apparently.
He's 5'7" Molecule manApparently.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
Dr Doom somehow creates a bomb out of Molecule
man.
So does he torture him, killhim, put him inside of a ball?
I don't know what he does, Ihaven't.
God, I was a kid, you know.
I don't even remember that part.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
I wonder is there a different version of Secret Wars
.
Moondragon kind of gets it, man.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Wow, god dang Kind of looks like a hotter version of
Cassandra Nova.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
I was going to say I thought that was Cassandra Nova.
What if we bring in Reaper?

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Reaper Red Ghost Lobo .

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
We can have Henry Cavill.
Henry Cavill, no, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
DC.
Lobo I don't even know who Lobois.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
What if they spawn in Thanos?
I don't need Thanos there we go.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
Let's have Thanos.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Thanos would be like man.
I really had no effect onanything.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Let's have Thanos play.
Doctor Doom, not Josh Brolin.
Doom Like not Josh Brolin, justThanos Josh.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
Brolin as Thanos Acting as an actor For Doctor
Doom.
Now you're starting to makesense.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Before I wasn't believing anything you were
saying.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Hear me out.
They put Hulk In a gianttorture chamber, indestructible,
and they torture him until hejust gets angrier, angrier and
angrier.
And he keeps getting bigger andbigger and more jacked.
And then they unleash him tofight Gleck 1v1.

(01:23:00):
Mono-y, mono.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Planet Buster Hulk might have a chance?

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Possibly, yeah, but Planet?

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Buster Hulk actually.
I mean, he fought heroes, heo eMono.
Planet Buster Hulk might have achance, possibly, yeah, but
Planet Buster Hulk actually, Imean he fought heroes, he didn't
fight villains.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Need to see it.
Need to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Hawkeye, I mean, he's still around.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
Human.
What if we have?

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
all the kids that they've set up.
We have Kamala.
We have Hawkeye Jr.
Oh no, we have Kamala.
We have Hawkeye Jr.
Oh no, we have Kamala Khan, wehave.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
All led by Peter.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Parker.
This is how they do it, all ledby Peter Parker.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
The Kid Avengers, the TVA shatters to create this
battle world.
All of the Infinity Stones thatthey had collected drop into
the universe and somebody haslike six Power Stones.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
I'm over the Power Stones.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
I'm over the Infinity Stones Power.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Stones.
They're called Power.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Stones.
I'm just talking at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Well, he's saying if there's multiple Power Stones,
and so it's a gauntlet of allPower Stones.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Yeah Instead of like.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Yeah, it's bedazzled with infinity stones, it's all
purple like the whole universeshit you're gonna take the Milky
Way and push it on three.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Three, I mean, as silly as that sounds, I would
love.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Oh shit.
One, three.
What Three?
I mean, as silly as that sounds, I would love to see that
animated or done like with CGHeart of the Beast Hulk.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Is that a person?
Beast Hulk, heart of the Beasthe says Heart of the Beast Hulk.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
What is that?
I don't have any knowledge onthis.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Me neither, I'm a big Hulk fan, let's fucking dive
into it.
So, hulk, I gotta go to age.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
Oh, the new biggest player is Ned Leeds With his
Morbius.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Morbius guys, heart of the Beast, hulk.
Morbin time we bring in JaredLeto.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Hercules.
Well, technically he's in there, he is Zeus.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
Yeah, they're to come after Thor.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Howard the Duck.
Howard the Duck, yes, theIncredible.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
Hulk Heart of the Monster, Hulk stronger than
Immortal Hulk Stronger thanImmortal Hulk.
Yeah, Heart of the Beast, Welleverything.
When I typed Heart of the Beast, it pulled up Heart of the
Monster Hulk.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Heart of the Monster Hulk.
Heart of the Monster Hulk.
I don't see anything in myencyclopedia.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Encyclopedia, encyclopedia, heart of the.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
Monster.
It's newer.
Let's see Jarvis found thelocation Okay, that's not Heart
of the Monster Hulk's iconicmission.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Hulk weighs 1, 1040 pounds.
That's insane.
He's so shredded.
You think he's natural, he'sjuicing I would love to see More
plates, more dates, do abreakdown, a review.

Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
See here, he's really angry, right now Derek from
moreplatesmoredatescom does abreakdown on the Incredible Hulk
oh wait, here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
He breaks down his cycle.
Dude, the Hulk is the only onethat has two fucking pages.
Are you finding anything?
What is this?
The Heart of the Beast Hulk?

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
It's a whole story arc called Heart of the Monster.
Evidently he becomes very, very, very powerful at the end of it
.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Whoa, I just read huge spoilers, hulk is Bruce.
Banner.
Hulk turns to Doctor Doom tophysically separate him from
Banner, taking part of his brainand putting it into a clone
body.
Banner eventually figured outhow to make them whole again.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
Oh okay well that sucks the Hulk scene in.
Heart of the Monster Hulkessentially is world breaker
Hulk taking a whole new level ofpower among the strongest forms
, the strongest forms of Hulkhas ever assumed.
It perhaps peaks the story'sfinale when Hulk and Red
She-Hulk new level of poweramong the stronger forms of the
strongest forms of hulk has everassumed.
It perhaps peaks the story'sfinale when hulk and red
she-hulk are tricked back toearth to confront a gamma charge

(01:27:12):
, fin fang foom absorbing theenergy, and dragon had stolen
hulk's giant size.
Only the realization of hulk'searth stops hulk.
With the last of the wishingwells power, all folks return to
normal.
I need an example of powerlevels, though.
Like what did he do that otherthan just saying he's so
powerful?

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
He's the Hulk, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
Two are one and the same.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
They need to have.
They could have done that torevive the MCU.
Just a really good Hulk movie.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
How strong is World.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Breaker Hulk World Breaker Hulk was stronger than
any mortal and most immortals inthe Marvel Universe.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
There's a lot.
I need something, I need tovisualize and see he could flick
his finger and destroy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Worldbreaker Hulk feats.
He pulled together the tectonicplates of a planet.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
That would be a scene .
We're having an earthquake.
He just locks the fuckingtectonic plate down.
I got this.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
That's pretty fucking wild.
Star of Hercules.
There's a thing called thePantheon team that's focused on
disaster relief and rescuemissions so world breaker hulk

(01:28:51):
has seen to be able to, uh, liftthe weight of two octillion
tons.
In other words, he could movestars, yeah, and not die from
them.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Two stars, not one, one in each hand.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
Just how much?

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
Yeah, I'm looking it up too, I can't find feats of
Heart of the Beast or Heart ofthe Monster.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
It's Worldbreaker Hulk Heart of the Monster, Heart
of the Monster.
It's Worldbreaker Hulk Heart ofthe Monster, Heart of the Beast
.
Is that storyline?

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
But it says Heart of the Beast Goes beyond Is what I
found right here.
It's his final form, prettymuch.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
It says An octillion is a trillion quintillion.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
One trillion quintillions.
What are these?

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
fucking numbers.
How much is an octillion?
It is One, followed by 27 zeros.
What?

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
the fuck.
So Bring the Hulk back.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
So he can lift two, followed by 27 zero tons.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
So if I ever see him 1v1ing Black Widow, all right,
I'm going to have a fuckingproblem.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
They got plenty of 1v1s.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
It's getting real late, big guy.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
That's my one weakness.
It's the lady powers.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
See.
So I guess in the darkdimension the Hulk admits to his
allies that when he hadpreviously taken on the world
breaker form, he had always beenholding back oh Jesus, what the
fuck and he's in the darkdimension, which allows his, his
potential to grow even furtherbeyond, you know, like super

(01:30:48):
saiyan 3 is to go even further,yeah um, so maybe, maybe, once
he learns about this existentialthreat, he goes to the dark.
Yeah, without the need forrestraint, hulk's power can grow
exponentially.
It says in the dark dimensionis where he goes.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Yeah, that's my guy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
It doesn't, but it doesn't.
It just says the hulk scenehere is a world breaker taken to
a whole new level of power.
It's like what does that mean,though?
What does that mean, though?
What does that mean I?

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
don't even think they can interpret it, you just need
to know, yeah.
The only feat that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
Worldbreaker Holt did that.
They've been able to put ascale on.
It is yes, he was able to movethe entire sun, and the sun is
two octillion metric tons, whichis a two followed by 27 zeros
and he moved it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
So he flew, he somehow flew into it and moved
it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
Yeah, and he was holding back apparently he was
holding back moving the fuckingsun.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
I think we're not I mean we're never getting that
Hulk.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
That's not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Because what does that look like dude?
He's just this little guy,little guy, still 8 feet.
But then like, can you comemove a son?
They zoom out and it's like youdon't even see him anymore.
Why is?

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
the son moving.
Why did he have to move the son?

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
I need to read this story, figure out what this is
thank you for that, daniel,because that's some interesting
shit, man, my god.
Well, boys dylan, where canthey find us?

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
they can find us on youtube, instagram, spotify, any
major podcast listeningplatform as well as every
Tuesday 7 pm Pacific time, westream right here on YouTube
live.
We're coming at you.
Smash that like button, likeand subscribe Ding the dong.
You know Ding the dong andenjoy it and enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Yeah, come join us, come chat and reap the benefits
and listen to our nonsense about.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Oh no, this was.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
These were 100% spot on predictions.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Yeah Well, you'll see , you're right, you'll see,
we're actually in Feige's in ourpocket.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
Here's the thing we said so many outlandish crazy
things, we went so manydirections tonight that
inevitably there will besomething that lands.
True, and it will super minor,but it'll land and we'll be like
remember when we predicted this, we called it, we so called it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
We knew there would be dramatic lighting.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
There's a sad moment, sad moment we fucking knew it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
I knew that they're going to play in on the weight,
the emotional weight, of thatchoice.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
I knew they had music .

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
It's a movie I told you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
We've been right at least 20% of the time.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
At least we nailed the Elden Ring hand.
We're going to be right thesecond time.
A clock's right twice a day.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
What were we right?

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
about Elden Ring.
I was like a regular clockshould be right all the time,
but a broken clock.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
But how right is right?
It's left, that's right.
What did we predict?

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
in Elden Ring.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
The hand for the DLC.
The hand.

Speaker 3 (01:34:09):
The most obvious prediction.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
I was like we were on the cutting edge, though.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
The thing that 99% of all the other players predicted
.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
We were first, though .
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
And I will think that we were definitely right about
all our predictions aroundCyberpunk several years back.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Oh yeah, Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
We got all those.
We got all those Pan Am.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
We've been doing this for four years now.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Almost and remember good kitty, you get it done.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Bye guys.

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