Pixels, Parenting, and Kickflips…

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, hello, and we are live.
Let's chickity check it.
The vocals are vibing.
The day is here.
How does the vocals vibe?
We have sprung forward with timedilation.
Yeah, that's what happens.
That's exactly what happens.
Where are we going here andwhat my favorite thing about
this time of year is you get toactually enjoy.

(00:21):
You know, for those people whowork traditional 9 to-fives, you
get to enjoy like a little bitof sunlight.
There's nothing moresoul-sucking than driving to
work and driving home indarkness yeah tell me about it.
I don't know what that is, butI I seriously that always sucked
man, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
You know what's worse though?
Working graveyard when I get towork and it was daylight, and
then work all through the nightand they'd get out when it was
daylight for some reason.
That felt worse to me.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
You're like oh, yeah, I feel like if I had.
I love getting up early.
I don't do it organically, butI love the idea of it and I do
enjoy when I do it.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
I like the theory of getting up early.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, I don't know how to like describe it, but I
feel like my body is best tunedto do swing shift like I feel
like if I, if I was to, mock uplike if I could match my
mentality with swing shift.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
But you know, the reality is, swing shift is is, I
think honestly, worse thangraveyard there's a genetic
component to whether or notyou're predisposed to being an
early riser, like a night owl,and there's actually nothing you
can do about that.
Really, you can force your bodyto accept certain patterns, but
it will always revert back towhat its natural state is.

(01:41):
No matter what.
According to thisneuroscientist that was on Joe
Rogan Probably not that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
The dude was legit.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
I forget his name now .
I'm sure if you look up sleepscience or Matthew Walker.
I think Matthew Walker soundsmore familiar If you look up
sleep science Joe Rogan.
He's not just been on Joe Rogan, he's been on a bunch of stuff.
This guy, he's very well backed, very well endowed, and that
was one of the things.
Yeah, that was one of thethings he said is there is a

(02:10):
genetic component to beingpredisposed towards certain
patterns of sleep that there'snothing you can do about, um
other than you can forceyourself to accept certain
patterns.
But you will always revert back, given the chance it would.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
What do you guys prefer?
Like prefer?

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm a night owl, night owl.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
For me this is why I'm a night owl it's quiet and
for like I'm not receiving amillion notifications, nothing
is going on.
It's like true me time.
Yeah, I'm truly able to just dowhat I want, mm-hmm, you know I
get that Like goddamn peace, andquiet, so loud my life all the

(02:47):
time I gotta say my normalbedtime is anywhere from, like,
on a good night, 10 pm to 1 amand, like I would say, it
probably falls more around thatmidnight more way more often I
would say yeah, regardless ofwhat time I have to be up.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
It's very rare that I can actually fall asleep before
midnight.
I think 12 o'clock is generallymy bedtime.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Unless I'm wore the fuck out yeah if I have a choice
.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
I'm usually in bed between 1.30 and 3, to be honest
, but I work day and so that'sjust not viable.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Let me ask you guys in regards to that.
I sometimes will specificallywait to beat a game until those
nighttime hours when I'm alone,so that I can fully experience.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
That's feeling, huh.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I feel like I have no impulse control, and so I would
just beat it the moment I can.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
I would just be like go, go, go.
I prefer to game at night thanI do.
Yeah, during the day, like I, Ithink, well, now I I have a lot
of stuff going on in my life,but I think between eight and
ten is like a good gaming.
Couple hours for me, that's agood time yeah, I I do like
those quiet hours.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I like I don't know if I have like a preference.
I I know what I actually enjoythe most is like a early morning
gaming session, like beforework.
There was a period before work.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I like it.
I like when I play hooky fromwork and I'm doing early morning
gaming.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Oh, I'm sick gaming.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, I'm like ooh, and especially it's a new game.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Oh shit, gotta work.
I mean I gotta cough and Igotta stay home guys.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
This is bad.
Stay home, I gotta work.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
I gotta work.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
I gotta work.
I have to stay home.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Why are you trying to make it sound like gotta work?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
When you're calling, I gotta work and I gotta stay
home, home.
Why are you trying to make itsound like God of War?
I don't know when you'recalling him.
I got a war and I gotta stayhome.
You just can't lie.
Yeah, exactly, you gotta spit itsomehow.
There was a period of my lifewhen I was like it was before I
would go to college and I wouldactually.

(05:04):
It was like only five or sixwould go to college, um, and I
would actually.
It was like only five or sixmonths, but I loved it.
I was getting up at like four orfive in the morning for like a
very extended period of time.
I don't know how I felt.
It was like I got so bad withmy sleep that it ended up being
like so good.
I was like that's how off shiftI was.
And there was a period formonths where I was getting up
very early and playing guildwars 2 and I would do like all

(05:27):
my dailies and shit, and it waslike so regimented and I
remember like going to school,like college, in such a good
mood, like there's something soawesome about being up for like
because I'm the kind of personthat I will wake up.
I'm a strategic wake up guy.
I will wake up the um themoment, not a moment before I

(05:49):
have to be ready and like be outthe door.
That's just how I am and like Iwill optimize that to the max.
There is something to be said,though, about getting up like an
hour or two before you reallyneed to, yeah, and just enjoying
waking up.
Yeah, imagine to yeah, and justenjoying waking up.
Yeah, imagine that and likehaving a moment and taking that
your time and enjoying yourmorning.
And I've never done that in mylife except for like this one

(06:11):
period and it was like Iremember going to school and it
was like nine in the morning andI'm like I've been up for five
hours.
I feel so good you know, and Iwas like going to bed at like 7,
30 and shit, it was so stupid.
But I love that period in mylife, um, and that's why I said
like I I feel like my head islike this is great, but my body
is like, if you have a chance,like on the weekends, I'll just

(06:33):
like rant, I'll like still tothis day.
I'll wake up at 10 am and I'mlike what the fuck?
The day's over already get up Ido I do.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I mean I 10 am.
I feel like man got day left.
No, it's when I wake up at noon1, on the weekend.
I'm like ah today's a lot.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
I literally can't tell you the last time I slept
that long.
Yeah, my average.
No matter what time I go to bed, I'm up at 7.
It's the latest I'll be up.
Generally I'm up at 5.30,though Fuck, and sometimes it's
nice, like you said, because Ican just take my time.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
So do you have that genius thing.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
I don't have to worry about rushing getting up early.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, like where that's your clock.
No, I hate it.
You're fighting it every day.
Every morning I wake up and I'mmiserable.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
I've never once woken up feeling like oh yeah, it
feels good.
I wake up thinking I am doingeverything in my power not to
die.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
right now You're like ugh, my dad will call me to
this day and be like son.
I slept in today.
I got up at 745.
You know, like that's such aculture shock.
I'm like.
I got up at 830 today, mom wasworried.
I was like dad, 830?
Like really.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
There'd be times growing up where, like we'd be,
like we'd be, you know, allnight game sesh, go to bed at
like seven in the morning and wewould literally get up at like
five o'clock in the afternoon,yeah, literally get up and eat
dinner and then game there wasor like remember there'd be
times where we'd have to.
We both were working like swingor like even like nights, like
there's one.
Like there's one time Iremember we both had to be to

(08:07):
work by five uh five o'clock inthe afternoon and we had to set
alarms to be able to get up, toget to work by five o'clock in
the afternoon believe me thatwas.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
That was a long time I did that for plenty of months
too.
We're like I mean, there was,there was, times periods of my
life, times periods of my life,extended periods of my life,
where I didn't go to bed before8 am, like that was not.
That was when I was going tobed, was like around 8 am.
Did you have blackout sheets?
Oh, 100%.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
I used to put blankets in my window but then
it would just make my roomreally hot and that kind of
sucked.
But yeah, I remember hangingblankets up in the window to
like block the light out I hadblackout shade and blackout
curtains.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
There was no light getting in through there.
It was awesome it was weird.
It would kind of fuck with yourlike serotonin and my walls the
paint on my walls was dark goldand my walls the paint on my
walls was dark gold and maroonred like it was it was.
It was for 49ers colors.
It was a dark room, yeah thateverything about that room was
dark, which is kind of funnybecause, like I'm not, I've

(09:13):
never been like a dark person.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
But back when I wake me up, wake me up can you
imagine billy with emo hair?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
yeah'm going to grow out four strands of hair and
just gel it down.
That would be so creepy, butlike it's balding, you know.
So you can grow it from theback of your head and you comb
it out.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
You should Sharpie in emo hair.
Yeah, Sharpie it in and like goover your eye.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Go over your eye.
You can see the eye when youopen it.
Dude yeah, sharp it in and likego over your eye.
Go over your eye.
That sounds horrendous.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
You can see the eye when you open it.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Dude, that sounds horrendous.
There's, I love I need to getinto wearing wigs, Like not
seriously, but like as like acomical thing or like a fun
night out or something.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Like a nice weave.
We have.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Don't you need hair to weave into with weaves?

Speaker 4 (10:06):
that's probably what weave means.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
I don't know, I'm pretty sure I don't know
anything about so they wouldweave into his scalp okay, you
ready for this, so I have.
They're putting it in.
So I have a wig that I got formy from my bachelor party.
But it's even better than that,because my wife has these like
extension.
That's like extension, thislike extension wig for women

(10:28):
that they wear.
Extensions is what they'recalled it's an extension wig,
all right whatever it's called,I'm obviously not a hair expert.
Okay, give me some rope hereit's so.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
It won't be made of hair.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Give me some hair so it's's like it's got a string.
I'll have to put it on tonightbecause this will scar you.
It's so funny, I think youmight have seen it Scar us.
I can't wait to be scarred.
It's got a string and then itstarts from here and then it's
like a foot of like blonde hairback and it looks so bad when

(11:03):
I'm bald, like when I'm baldBecause I'm bald.
Like when I'm bald Because I'mbald, and it looks like I have
the greasiest, dirtiest mullet,like the cheapest shit ever.
And it's so funny because wewore it.
It's not meant to be worn aslike anything other than like
women literally putting it on tolike make their hair look
fuller.
That's like, I think, the wholepurpose of it.

(11:24):
But I wore it with my wig and Iremember I was so hot at this
party and I took the wig off andI had just that on and I had
literally people rolling on theground laughing.
Because it was the mostridiculous looking thing of all
time, Literally.
I'll find that later on tonight.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
You should put it on for the stream.
Should I try to?

Speaker 1 (11:45):
find it right now yeah go, okay, all right, I'll
be back.
You guys, uh, what else you goton your mind?

Speaker 4 (11:50):
we're just gonna sit here.
We say you're in silence, stareat each other don't say a word,
there's a chance you do thatit's a possibility did you see
dune yet kyle?

Speaker 2 (12:01):
no, I haven't no, what are your?

Speaker 4 (12:02):
thoughts on the.
Because you you never actuallysaid when we're talking about it
.
Did you like the cliffhanger oryou're kind of like me?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
no, I liked it and I it made me excited for, like the
future of, I want to see morein that universe.
I just went into it with thesame and I had the same issue
with that john wick.
Um two, I didn't expect them forjohn wick three I didn't expect
them to keep going, so I wentin like all right, this is gonna
wrap everything up and I waslike, oh, I guess not, which is

(12:31):
cool but that's how I felt aboutacross the spider verse,
because I didn't read beforehandthat that was going to be a
two-parter one out of part twoand that was a big cliffhanger.
We saw that together actually,but I remember at the end of it
I was like the fuck it's stillgoing like it's like and that
one, the the cliffhanger, islike a build-up to what you've

(12:52):
been waiting for, like, yeah,the last half of the movie.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
You're like, oh man, they're getting the spider team
back together, oh I do rememberthinking like man it's been
going for like over two hours,like that's how I felt.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
I was like are they going to wrap this up how?

Speaker 4 (13:07):
are they going to do this?
I?

Speaker 2 (13:08):
was like oh.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
I don't know how they're going to do it in the
movie.
I can't speak to the filmbecause I haven't seen it yet,
but I did read the books a longtime ago.
The first two movies is basedon the first book.
They split that up into twomovies.
Is based on the first book.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
They split that up into two movies because it's a
decent sized book, um, but itdidn't end on a cliffhanger
because he, the author, wasn'tactually sure if he was gonna
like.
So well, I'll just tell you itwas pretty wrapped up, do you
want?
Me to tell you the ending, themovies you kind of already did
yeah, so I mean he fights, hefights.
I guess spoiler alert, spoileralert for Dune 2.
He fights the Emperor for theEmperor, title right, and then

(13:53):
he has to fight that Shade.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Fade.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Fade is his name.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Shade, yeah, fade.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
He kills Fade, and then he asks for the Emperor's
daughter's hand in marriage andthen, like, makes the emperor
kiss his hand and then they tellhim that the other houses that
like parked above arrakis, arenot accepting his rise to power.

(14:20):
Yeah, so he's like all right,uh we go to war and then that's
where it kind of ends and we seeJohnny.
Her name's Johnny, right, Ithink.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
So Johnny is like out in the desert about to ride a
sandworm, because she's pissed,so the book ends pretty much
with him getting the throne orwhatever, usurping the empires,
but it ends on that's kind oflike a final, like him getting
the throne or whatever Usurpingthe Emperor, but it ends on like
that's kind of like a final hewon.
You know there's no threat oflike looming war or anything

(14:53):
like that, so like the houses.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
They didn't mention that at all.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
I mean it was like there, but it wasn't like like
that was the end, okay.
And then so when the secondbook comes out, it's like 12
years later, like 12 or 15 yearslater, something like that, and
it implies that, oh, the lastbook ended great, but all of
this happened, so they changedit in the movie, probably to

(15:23):
make it more seamless going intothe next one.
That's where a lot of peopleare worried, because the second
book was actually not that great, to be honest with you.
I heard it's a lot of politicalintrigue, like a lot of yeah, um
, it doesn't really lend itselfwell to like a blockbuster type
thriller per se, probably a goodtv show.
Yeah, um, and there's like thatthat time skip where, like the
war kind of already, like it wasalmost like this is what

(15:45):
happened, kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
He won it's over yeah .

Speaker 4 (15:48):
And then at the end of that one, then he becomes
supreme ruler of the galaxy orsome shit, and then he ends up
having a worm hybrid son thatrules for 3,000 years and then
by the time we get to the fourthbook, there's a 3,500 and then,
so like by the time we get tothe fourth book, there's like a
3,500 year skip.
It literally jumps, and thenthat book is actually really

(16:10):
good.
So between Dune 1 and like DuneI think there's six there's
like 4,000 years.
So like, by the time we get, ifthey really do make all of
these into a movie, all thepeople in the first one aren't
even going to be in the.
The final ones they.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I I hope we at least see get to see the galactic war
like I hope they don't skip overthe 15 years.
Um, like they do in the book,because I feel like there's a
lot that goes on because doesn'tlike in the next book this is a
spoiler for like books now,because I did research on it
johnny becomes like hisconcubine.
Yeah, so she doesn't get.

(16:52):
She's like she's mad at the endof this movie and then she's
like you win, you can have twowives, I guess.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Um yeah, that's I mean I think the war would be
more interesting to be made intoa movie than what they actually
did in the second book.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, so we'll see, especially with the.
I mean, I that was one of thecoolest things I think you know.
Not knowing anything about Duneand going into it is.
It's a genius move by theauthor of having those shields
that make them fight with swordsin space and you're like that's
pretty cool that's how they canget away with it.
Yeah, it's like that's why itmakes sense.

(17:32):
Um, but yeah, I I really wantto see that technology on a
grander scale, because we got tosee it on arrakis.
I want to see it in space now,because these are space-faring.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Well, as you can see, here we got Eustace.
Let the lettuce flow, baby, ohdear.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
God, oh God.
What if you use it like acomb-over, Like you put it on
the right side of your head andyou flip it over to the left?
That is wild.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I'm like pirate software, but without the head
there on the right side of yourhead and you flip it over.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
That is wild, I'm like pirate software, but
without the head on there on thetop.
If you put a hat on, youwouldn't be able to tell.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I've been working on this bad boy for five years I
have to take it off because I'mgonna have a fat line that is
that is like beautiful though?

Speaker 2 (18:23):
That is hilarious.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
I took off the wig and was left with this.
That was like oh my.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
That was beautiful.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
That was.
I'm a little turned on.
Just a little.
Only a little.
Yeah, me too.
It's still weird, and the otherhalf of me recognizes that.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
But the other half If he was wearing a hat, then I
would be 100% turned on.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
That's 100% reason to remember the name.
Imagine dropping that line withthat wig on this is 10%, luck
20% skill, 15% concentratedpower of will, 5% pleasure, 15%
pain and 100% reason to rememberthe name.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
That's 200%.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
It's 200.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
200%.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
That song is ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
That song is.
I can only think of Jaden Smithand the Karate Kid remake
Because they used that song likethe trailer.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Imagine writing the lyrics so you don't have the
beat yet.
15% pain, 20% skill, 10%.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Oh, that's a banger 100% reason to remember the name
100% reason remember the name.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
You're just like right.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
I don't know how you write that hey, you know what?
It was very popular, so itworked.
Everybody loved that song for along time.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I mean, if you hear it, come on, you're still like.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
It's a good beat.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
You can't beat that beat, can't beat the beat.
So how was the lettuce?
That was good.
Huh, it looked good.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yeah, it did, it flowed.
It flowed.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
We were talking about if you had a hat on, it would
have been.
Even I would have looked likeMike Myers.
You would have had like atrucker hat.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
You would look like a dude from the South.
I need his bones hat.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
That's what.
I need I should have brought it.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
He should have known ahead of time that he was going
to wear this hair.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
I know You're losing your touch.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
The hat's starting to .

Speaker 4 (20:29):
It's on its last legs .

Speaker 1 (20:31):
I would imagine it's only been used daily for seven
years.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
The snaps don't hold together anymore, really, so
I'll be wearing it and it's justpop, oh man.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
What's the next hat?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
so I'll be wearing it , and it'll just pop, oh man, so
I just retire.
What's the next hat?

Speaker 4 (20:49):
I have an independent hat that I like Independent.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, independent trucks.
You going through a life crisis.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
I've never lost that.
I've always had that style.
I never changed.
I only dress up for work.
That's not the real me.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Is Independence still a company?
Yeah.
They made this hat last year.
Are skate companies thriving?

Speaker 4 (21:16):
I don't know, the stats on whether or not I think
they're still doing good.
Vans is still technically askate company.
It's still the biggest shoeBesides Nike.
Now you have, vans is stilltechnically a skate company and
it's still the biggest shoe, Imean besides Nike, but it's
still huge.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
And they're in the Olympics now, skateboarding yeah
.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Well, like back in the day, you could gauge the
popularity of something based onhow many stores there were, but
everything is online, so muchthat you could I mean, I'm sure,
just like with anything,anything else.
Remember CCS catalogs CCS.
Holy shit, dude, that takes meway back.
It was a little fucking bookyeah, a little flip book.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
I remember there was one shirt that I ordered from
CCS that never arrived.
I'm still salty about it.
What if it just shows up and itsaid I'm a serial killer, and
it had a picture of a spoon.
And little me thought that thatwas hilarious and I ordered it
and it never showed up shockedyour parents even let you.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
I don't think how did you?
How did you order from there?

Speaker 4 (22:14):
you had to call a number and like give your credit
card number, or yeah, likeliterally mail in a form and it
would like check boxes next whatyou wanted and like a check for
how much it was totaled,because it would tell you what
your total is.
You could mail in the form witha check to pay for it and then
they'd mail the stuff back.
It's wild, it's absolutely wild.

(22:35):
That seems really risky.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Void on the check, Send it in and then they bill
that account.
That's unbelievable.
That's why I laugh when peoplego like well the internet.
They got it.
They can hack your account andit's like do you realize what
you used to literally hand afucking random person.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
All of your account info.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
You got everything through the mail.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Can you imagine people still paying by check at
the grocery store?
Like what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (23:01):
It still happens, except check it's like oh god.
So I looked up, it's beentrending up.
I mean they're still makingmoney every from 2018.
Um, they were making 1.94billion.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Now the the industry was the industry, skateboard,
market value and then that'sjust us, or is that global?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
in billion, in billion US dollars, but that's
worldwide Skateboarding isabsolutely massive in Japan,
though 2.4 billion right now,next year, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
It's 1.9 right now.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
No, it's 1.9 in 2018.
Okay, and in 2025, it'sprojected to have 2.4.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Globally, that's pretty small.
That's a small market.
That doesn't impress Billy.
Look up pickleball.
Like the market value forpickleball.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
I don't think I.
I mean every skater I know doesnot want it to be huge.
It's so weird it's like an indiething no, it's not like an
indie thing, but it's like itloses something when it like
which I don't necessarily agreewith.
I'm just saying that's themindset of like skaters, that it
feels like, um, you're losingsomething when it becomes sold

(24:26):
to the masses, which is like alot of people didn't like it at
the olympics because, for one,the judges at the olympics
didn't really know what they'relooking for.
Like they didn't know how tojudge it.
Like they judged it based onlike flashiness, but not like
they didn't understand.
Like what made somethingtechnically difficult versus
what wasn't, and so so like atthe Olympics was kind of I mean,
don't get me wrong, everyonethere was great at skating, but

(24:49):
like they, it wasn't reallyassessed the way it would be at
a real skate competition and sojust stuff like that.
Like it's always been so antimainstream and now it's not, and
so like there's kind of thisweird like shift happening
within skaters.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Pickleball is as of 2022,.
Global pickleball market sizeis 1,322 million, so 1.3 billion
.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
So pickleball is half the size of skateboarding.
Okay, that's a good referencepoint because pickleleball
exploded there for a minute.
But I think of how many skateparks, how many skate parks it
did feel like when Tony Hawk ProSkater were coming up Early
2000s.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
So when Tony Hawk did the 900.
So 1999 Up until about 2007, Ithink, was the peak as far as
like popularity, and then itwent down again and then when
the olympics came out it startedto go way back up again.
Um, but skating has alwaysebbed and flowed like that.
It's never had a steady,consistent it's like punk, yeah,

(25:59):
punk rock.
It's like a lot of the music inthat era too, that's actually
kind of interesting.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
You know, I uh, I just don't know how many kids
are like.
I don't know if I could go to awalmart.
I remember back in the day youcould go to a walmart and buy a
skateboard.
It sucked, but you could buyone.
I don't I don't know that youcan they still have like a
skateboard on the um they stillsuck they still yeah I would
have hoped that they would havefigured out.
I mean, the bearings were likeliterally well, maybe they do

(26:28):
that by design.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
So the trucks aren't even made of metal, it's hard
plastic, dude that's so badthat's like oh sick terrible
they're so bad I remember wewere young.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
And it's not even cheap.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
It's like 60 for a walmart board and it's not even
cheap.
It's like $60 for a Walmartboard and it's like if you're a
parent, if your kid expressesinterest in this, just literally
you could buy a much bettercomplete for like 80 bucks.
It's like why are you Don't dothat to your kid, Like, get an
actual good.
You can get like a plain nicedeck unbranded for like 40 bucks

(27:04):
and then you can just finishall the.
You can get a plain nice deckunbranded for $40.
And then you can just finishall the nice quality stuff and
finish the whole thing for $80.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Heck, you could probably find one secondhand
that's in good condition, betterthan what you could at Walmart,
yeah but I think what you guysare saying applies to quite
literally anything Like buildingyour own computer.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Oh you could do so much cheaper if you do it for
yourself.
I think people just like askateboard and, as a parent,
yeah fucking no, and you don'treally care, you just there you
go especially I bought my kid askateboard.
It's still 20 bucks cheaper andmy kid's not gonna.
You know, notice the differenceoh, we noticed here's kids.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
We definitely especially skaters I I don't
know how the culture is now, butas a kid growing up, the skate
culture was a lot more roughthan it is now and so like if
you show up to a skate park withlike a Walmart board, you just
got like relentlessly picked onby everyone at the skate park.
Well, you could like hear thedifference Everyone would be

(27:59):
like and this was back when,like you know, slurs were just
thrown around no big deal.
And this was back when, likeyou know, slurs were just thrown
around, no big deal, and likeyou'd be questioning your
sexuality at the end of it,because they were so mean to you
and like calling you like everymean way to say gay, like it
was like a whole different world.
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
I haven't been to a skate park in like years.
I just don't see them beingbuilt anymore.
I wonder if they're includingthat global value with
longboarding, because I couldsee longboarding also trending
up, because it's like a cruisingthing.
I just don't know.
I don't know.
This is what I guess the pointI'm trying to make is.

(28:38):
I went to the store Costco.
I don't know if you guys everheard of it.
No, costco, I don't know if youguys ever heard of it.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
No.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
The other day for like $100 or a couple hundred
bucks, there was a scooter, anelectric scooter, that had a
28-mile range on it.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Electric scooters are really popular now yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
We had skateboards because it was a way to get
around.
Well, for the same fucking kindof money I mean back in the day
we would spend about $200 wasthe kind of I would say, the
barrier to entry to a decentskateboard that's what I felt
like back in the day was.
If you wanted good bearings,good wheels, good trucks good
board.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
That was like $200.
I think like maybe $120.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Really, I feel like when I got mine it was like $200
.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Of course, Kyle, Of course you bought the $200 one.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Well, I was a kid, so my parents did, and no way they
share the same flavor and taste.
I got what I got.
Let's just put it that way.
I don't even remember.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
I don't think a high-quality skateboard would
have been $200 back then, to behonest, with you.
Your first board was a flipboard, then you had a birdhouse?
No, you definitely had abirdhouse.
I don't think I owned twoskateboards you 100% had a flip
board and then a birdhouse.
Trust me, I know I've probablyowned somewhere in the vicinity

(30:03):
of 75 skateboards yeah, my godwhat happened to all of them.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
It's break, wear down .

Speaker 4 (30:13):
You broke all 75 that they would let like if you're
skating every day, you can getlike five months out of it if
you're like not breaking them um.
And you know, I skated prettymuch every day from the time I
was like eight to like 19.
What did my birdhouse boardlook like?

(30:34):
It literally just was a blueskateboard and it had like the
the skeleton bird on it.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Um, I don't remember that and you.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
That was your last one, your very first one was a
flip board and then you had abirdhouse and you got the
birdhouse one around the sametime that Matthew got his money
board.
I don't remember what the deckwas, but the cryptate was money.
That's so funny.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
But when the alternative I feel like my
parents spent like around 200 toget that board.
I mean we we possibly went to astore and we part pieced it
together what's a good wheel,what's good bearings, we kind of
put it together.
It's 200 bucks.
I feel like that's what Iremember.
That was 15 years ago, you know, whatever that is, for the same

(31:24):
kind of money today you can geta scooter that goes 15, 20
miles an hour and has 30 milesof range as a kid at least, my
preference.
I can't speak for you because Iknow how much you love skating.
It was fun to do.
I didn't like falling, let'sput it that way.
Even when it came tosnowboarding, I never did like

(31:44):
your tricks because I just likethe cruising part.
If I had the choice ofskateboard or electric scooter,
I'm fucking going electricscooter all day long because
that just fits my style.
Much more and um.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
I feel like that's probably why as much as I think
I would enjoy like an electricscooter.
I was so like susceptible tobeing afraid, to being like
being bullied growing up that Inever would have done that
because, like the skatecommunity would just totally
roast you relentlessly if youhad a scooter of any kind.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
And even though I'm sure, like not allowed into the
skate park.
Yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
And they're still kind of like that, to be honest.
But I, if I had a scooter ofany kind of way like I, was very
aware of who was around me whenI was on it, so I probably
never would have taken itanywhere other than like our
cul-de-sac hmm, yeah, if so,what about if you had never even
touched a skateboard and younever touched a scooter and you

(32:48):
didn't know about all like?
I had a dirt bike, so I'd muchprefer that over you got into
dirt biking, I think beforeskating right no, no, I was.
I was into dirt biking fromlike 13 to 16 did you ever dirt?

Speaker 2 (33:01):
bike, I like once or twice.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
I don't think, to this day, I've ever ridden a
dirt bike.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Dirt biking is fun.
I was never really that good atit but it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
I always wanted to be good at skateboarding, but I
just I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I didn't like hurting myself yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
I didn't, that was my whole thing.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
I didn't.
I was like, no matter what,what I do, it's not going to be
fucking cool and I'm going tolike I'm going to fall 20 times
before I learn and I guess it'snot interesting to me, and that
was.
That's where I was I was thekid I was dude.
This is who I was as a kid.
I was religious about wearingsafety gear.
You never saw kyle said I 1000.
I was that kid.
I was 100% of the time if I wasnot riding something, I had a

(33:49):
helmet on.
Yeah, 100% of the time I usedto even wear these wrist guards,
which I thought they were justfucking cool because then you
could fall and you're like I'mgood.
I didn't really wear elbow andknee pads because they always
sucked, you'd fall and they'djust fucking go.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Anyway, so they weren't that useful.
But like wrist guards I'd wearsometimes rarely.
But helmet, you did not catchme on anything.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Bike, scooter nothing you know what's crazy is I, um,
even when I was young, as soonas my parents weren't looking, I
would take my helmet off.
I so I, and then, as I gotolder, they kind of stopped
carrying um, so I just neverreally, and then, especially
when I was a teenager, like Idefinitely was not wearing a
helmet like this lame yeah, andso, like I, uh, I never wore a

(34:34):
helmet.
A lot of that was like peerpressure, maybe from like my
older brother, or like justbeing in the community.
Helmets were lame, you know,you didn't wear a helmet.
I would never let my kid on askateboard without a helmet.
Like that just seems stupid.
I would never.
And I'm lucky.
Out of all the bones I'vebroken in skating, all the, all

(34:57):
the tendons I have stretched andtorn and, uh, I'm lucky I've
never got a head injury, becausethat's just like.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
It's synonymous with skating.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
It's just silly to not have a helmet on.
I just don't understand.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
There's two times.
Like I said, we were constantlyoutside.
We were on something, whether Iwas on a bike, skateboard
whatever, molly.
I never, ever, I never would nothave a helmet on, and there's
only two instances in my entirelife that I look back on that.

(35:35):
I was so grateful that I had itlike of all like again.
This is like a 10 year span.
I only hit my head where it waslike okay, so great, twice, but
holy shit when head where itwas like okay, so twice, but
holy shit.
When I did, it was like I wouldhave knocked.
There was one time we weregrinding.
We used to buy fucking the mostobnoxious wax.
We'd wax the shit out of thecurbs.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Destroyed the curbs at our neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
I think they've kind of slowly healed from that Like
the wax has melted.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
I think they've kind of slowly healed from that Years
.
It's been like 15 yearsprobably Since I've waxed a curb
.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
We waxed.
It was actually in front of myhouse.
We never skated over there, butthis is the one memory I have
and I Ollied up, got onto it,slipped back and my head hit the
corner of the curb and I hadthe helmet on and I remember
laying there on the ground justfor like an extra five seconds.
Going like this is why you wearit, because that would have

(36:33):
knocked my lights out.
I mean, I would have beenfucked up because I I it was
didn't protect it at all spackthe head, crack and I was like
thank you.
And then another time was on abike.
But man lucky Thank God, he'sreally good at balance stuff and
I was always like we had shittyramps and stuff and they were

(36:54):
not rated.
I was always older than these.
It was not rated for my weight.
I was always like it waspushing it too much.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Also your center of balance.
You would lean back wheneveryou got to a ramp.
It's basically like going up tosomething and kicking it.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
They would slide out, we would put blocks and stuff
and they would still move.
It just never worked out.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
They got warped.
It was all bowed up in thefront so you had to kind of lift
up as you went up the ramp.
It was extra intimidating.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
You did clothesline so I I aged out of that quickly
and so I let him and somethingcool gaming uh take over that
part of our lives and I justrode a bike and did whatever.
But uh, I mean it was insanethat that kind of shit like
these guys were crazy.
They got so, so comfortable andused to that stuff.
I would do stuff if it was likeif we could guarantee safety.

(37:49):
I remember we would.
That's just what I was.
I would back up the ramp to thebecause the only thing I was
really good at was ollieing.
I could ollie really well and Inever landed a kickflip in my
life, never landed a heelflip inmy life, never could do.
I could pop, shove it, but Iwas about it.
Then Ollie, I was good at Ollie, so we'd back these ramps up

(38:11):
against the curb and atsomething cool gaming's house we
would stack his recycle binsand I remember we would go and
like we'd see how fucking highwe could get At some point.
I would check it out and Kylewould get to some point and he'd
fucking break his arm trying todo some ridiculous thing.
He had no business trying.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Lengthwise on the ramp.
Lengthwise, my record was sevenboards long and then, funny
enough, flatland Ollie, I couldOllie six boards, so like I
could only get one more boardwith the ramp.
Huh, uh, I don't know what.
I don't think the ramp actuallyadded a whole lot to distance,

(38:55):
to be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, because I can you really ollie off of like
that ramp, you know, like youkind of just float?
I mean, if it was like a realramp you could yeah but this
thing, like if you all the wholething would flip yeah, so you
had to just kind of float off umheight wise.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Uh, I think I got five decks like with just an
ollie just stacked on.
My ollies were never that great, um, but yeah, like we would
something cool gaming and I wewould.
We also would like really pushourselves to do things that like
we weren't even like skilledenough to do.
But like that was part of howlike I got decent at skating was

(39:35):
because I didn't really have alot of fear and so like, even if
I wasn't like on the level ofwhat I was trying to do, I would
do it until I could do itliterally like that like a like,
like a degenerate souls playerjust fighting the same boss over
and over.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
He would knock him up .

Speaker 1 (39:51):
He'd fucking be bloodied arms and hands.
He's like I got this, I gotthis.
He also had an art to fallingthat I just, my brother and I
never got.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
I did martial arts my whole life too, so I knew how
to roll pretty well.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
It was like grace to his falling mine was you, you,
you, you there was.
You were risking death if you,if you fell down.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
He's like he's never athletic.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
But you know what's funny is like if you were to go
to I don't know, maybe you canspeak to this if you were to, if
we were to grow up now on thesame street that we did, we
couldn't really skate out therethey do like uh, what happened
they?
Do, and I think they do thislike all roads.
Now I don't know if it's bettergrip or it lasts longer, but
it's got like groups yeah, andlike rocks like little pebbles.

(40:35):
Everywhere.
It's like this grainy.
Ours used to be clean, ourcul-de-sac was smooth.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
It was like and they repaved it, yeah, our cul, our
cold stack was smooth, but nowit's all like rough and you just
like eat away at your wheels.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, like, like a bike is still totally fine, but
like a skateboard imaginefalling on that dude it'll shred
you up.
It's like falling on dirt.
Yeah, it was not.
I don't know I I noticed thatabout because I still play like
go back home and we'll playfootball out front or whatever.
And you fell?
Yeah, no, I didn't fall, I wasjust noticing the ground and I'm

(41:11):
like this doesn't even thislooks horrendous to try and
skate on.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah, and you can tell, driving it too Like you'll
be driving.
There's some places on the wayto Vegas that have the normal
old asphalt, that's that flat.
And you hit it and you're like,ooh, that have the normal old
asphalt, that's that flat andyou hit it and you're like, ooh.
Like what's this.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Ooh, we're getting a little crazy here Wow.
And then you're back to I'mliking the vibrations yeah, we
used to have the most ghetto rigstuff too, like we would make
like boxes and I was waiting foryou to lick his finger.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
I thought he's gonna offer it up.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Well, I remember something cool gaming and I we
made this whole skate park inhis backyard, literally plywood
and like it was it kind ofworked.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
He sized it.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah, we had like a wall ride, like spine transfer,
like rails, and we like we justconstructed it all and it was
like really like shoddily puttogether, but like it was, like
it worked.
It was the true essence ofskating.
Like it was so, it was so fun.
And then, uh, his uh old ladyneighbor below him got all

(42:23):
pissed off at us because we werebeing loud and I was like we
can be as loud as we want,between 8 and 10.
I'm like 14 yelling at this oldlady.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
She's down a hill and probably minimum 100 feet away
and she's complaining about kidsat 4 pm in the afternoon
skateboarding.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
She sounds like a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
You know, I hope I never become that person,
Because even today there will bestuff like I'll be working or
whatever.
They don't build homes likethey used to.
I hear a lot of this shitoutside and it makes me happy
when I hear kids playing outfront or when I see a family

(43:09):
doing something together and yousee it or you hear it.
That stuff makes me.
I hope I never get to a pointwhere I'm jaded.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Billy's staring out the window, smiling.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
They're like look at this creepy bastard.
Let's go inside kids Billy's.
Like I have found myself whenI'm out in public where, like,
if I see a group of teenagersand like the boys are being like
loud and obnoxious, and myinitial I'm like, oh my god,

(43:38):
they're so fucking annoying.
Like that's what I think.
And then I like start thinkingback and I'm like I was just as
annoying maybe even worse when Iwas a teenager, like especially
when me and your brother gottogether.
We would like, just for fun,scream at each other, like in
public spaces, at the mall, justlike yelling.
We'd be like alf sorensen pooland like literally just random

(44:02):
shit right andI was so and I'm like you know
what, unless they actually like,physically, do something to me
personally, it's whatever youknow, be your only young ones.
Be as loud and obnoxious as youwant, just don't be criminal,
you know like.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
The only thing that I would have no patience for is
like those shitty tiktok pranksor whatever.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Yeah that's different , you know, don't affect me
personally exactly where.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Where someone's trying to ruin your day, but if
you're with your friends, andthere's that one friend.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
That's the class clown that's being loud or
whatever.
It's not that big a deal.
But if you come up to me atHome Depot and put a bucket on
my head, I'm going to fuckingchase after you, you pretend
like it wasn't you that somebodyramped.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
God, I'm going to fucking chase after you.
You pretend like it wasn't youthat somebody ramped.
God I swear I've never seen oneof those go down in public.
And I feel like I see so muchcontent online and this is how I
rationalize with it, becauseyou see this and you're like God
, people are getting worse.
And then you're like wait aminute.
I've been in public spacesrecently.
How many people had their phoneout and they were trying to do
this.
Like this is niche, niche,niche.

(45:08):
These people suck.
Like this is not reality.
The internet is not a realplace.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Stop thinking about it.
Well, my brother worked insecurity at a grocery store for
a while and he said the one thatactually did happen a lot that
used to really piss him offwould be the slipping and
dropping the milk jugs.
Oh, he said that happened allthe time and uh, at the grocery
store he worked at, it wouldjust make him pay for the how is

(45:36):
that funny?

Speaker 1 (45:37):
I never understood.
Which is like what?

Speaker 4 (45:38):
five dollars for a gallon of milk or whatever, just
freaking trying to spike theinsurance fraud.
No, it's just like no, it'sjust funny like, and then you
throw the milk, yeah did you?

Speaker 1 (45:50):
what did you?
Did you get into likerollerblading or skating or
scootering or any kind of likedirt biking, like any motorized
stuff, like?
Did you have any?
Hobbies as kids did you?

Speaker 3 (46:01):
were you normal?
Did you do anything?
Did you have friends?

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Were they real.
Did you have?

Speaker 2 (46:09):
friends that weren't pillows.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Did your parents love you?
Now I know that's true.
Tell me everything I know theydidn't.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
I mainly biked.
I did ride a scooter.
One of the few things I won inschool.
Remember when we had theassemblies and you could win
something in a raffle.
I won a Razor scooter.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Ooh, the Rolls Royce of scooters.
I felt so badass, hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, I think I still have it actually.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
I would have been making fun of you at the skate
park when we were kids.
I wouldn't have.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
I had a helmet on, so I had no place to make fun of
it.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
I probably I could probably count on I could count
on two hands how many times Iwent to a skate park.
I never went to them.
I fucking hated them.
I hated the culture there.
I hated everything about Ihated it was.
I was so uncomfortable I didnot want to be there, but yeah I
mainly, I mainly just would.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Um, none of my friends were into skating or
anything else.
I tried to skate for a littlebit, but then most of the time I
would say in my childhood itwas probably just we would walk
to the park and kind of hang outat the park and then get up to
some type of nonsense orsomething.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
There you go.
Yeah, now, when you rode, whenyou did play on your sweet new
Razor, did you wear a helmet?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
No, I was one of those kids that I didn't like
helmets.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
Somehow he was still cooler than you.
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
He was cool.
My inner toxic skater's comingout right now I can tell I'm
insecure, I'm getting all myfeelings back.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
It makes your already big head bigger.
I'm just kidding, I'm gettingall my feelings back.
It makes your already big headbigger.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
I'm just kidding.
I needed to protect it with ahelmet.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
We mostly just played with my friend's siblings.
We'd play at his house with hissiblings or something, and then
I'd go home and play videogames, do you think?

Speaker 4 (48:02):
kids still get into nonsense like that.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Or have we lost that Dude?
100% still happens, 100%.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Kids just go outside and wreak havoc.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yes, 100%.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
But on the level we did Probably not no.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Imagine if you had the type of games available to
you today.
Would you go out as much as youdid?

Speaker 4 (48:26):
no, no, that I mean not at all, I mean we had a lot
of games, but there's thingslike you're missing too well, so
like.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
And then here's the whole thing, like when you get a
phone and how much, how muchtime of the day you lose to your
phone.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
That's a very real thing.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
I didn't even have a smartphone until I was like 17,
18.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
A smartphone, probably high school I had a
Sophomore.
I had a slide phone in middleschool yeah, I had a slide phone
.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Oh, you were hella cool then.
I didn't have that, I had aflip phone.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
I never had a flip phone, so I went straight from
the Nokia brick to a slide phone.
I remember that piece of shit.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
And.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
I had the slide phone for a while, and then I.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
This thing was on its last leg for about half a
decade and he still was rockingit.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
I used to hang out at the casino and I must have been
at least 18 then by the time Igot a smartphone, Because I
remember we'd be hanging out.
I was like 16, 17 and we'd hangout at the casino and I have
clear memories of taking thatphone and just throwing it
across the hall because I waslike it's indestructible and

(49:38):
then I pick it up and it's fine.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
I don't think that was like we were hanging there
for, like, at the bowling alleyor something.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
I was old enough to drive when I still had that
phone.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah, what was your first phone?

Speaker 4 (49:50):
My first phone was a Nokia.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
No, no, no A smartphone.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
My first smartphone was a Note 4.
I think.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
I was like 18 when I bought it.
Note 4 came out when I wasstill in high school.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
I got mine way after you.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Oh, that is true.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
They had already been on to like.
When I got my Note 4, it wasalready old.
It was like a couplegenerations old, because that's
when Note 7s were blowing up onthe airplane and they were
selling notes for hella cheapand I got a Note 4 because of it
.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
That happened when I was in college.
Yeah, it might have been.
Been.
Wow, that's a long time then,because I remember that stupid
that phone you and the batterywas flying out of it was.
We're just hucking it down thehallway.
So that's the kind of nonsensehe's talking about, but I
remember my thought.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
I was like I got an ipod touch, I don't need a
smartphone I did same.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
That's what I thought .

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Touch, that's what I got first and I was like, yeah,
I got an iPod Touch, I don'tneed a smartphone.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
I did the same.
I had an iPod Touch.
That's what I got first and Iwas like, yeah, this is so cool.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Well, because the internet on phones really didn't
exist.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Suck, you couldn't do it unless you were on Wi-Fi
anyways.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
They called it Edge right.
The mobile service that you hadwas not 3G.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
E.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
E yeah, it was.
E holy shit that was terrible.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
It was so slow it'd run in like half a megabit.
You'd be loading a picture andit's like.
And none of the internet wasdesigned for smartphone usage,
so like all the websites wereass.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
It was all the web browser version on like a shitty
phone so buggy god, that wasthe wild west at that time.
I remember I got on the theinternet once with my slide
phone and it like my parentswere obviously paying for the
bill and it charged them sofucking much for it and I
couldn't even do anything.
Like it was like it was.

(51:38):
I don't even know why that wasan option to get on the internet
ringtones.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Yes, guys remember buying ringtones.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
Yes, I used to record from the radio oh that's what I
did, yeah and then you couldsave that to your ringtone.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Oh man, that just takes me back.
There's so much nonsense, but Ithink the kids still are kids.
I feel like it might just lookdifferent Versus we were outside
.
I feel like it might just lookdifferent, you know, like versus
we were outside.
I think probably they have waysof hanging out, roblox, yeah,
and I don't know if that's, it'sprobably better in some ways

(52:18):
your kids are safe and it'sprobably worse in a lot of ways,
you know, because they're alsonot safe Online.
Yeah, for me.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
I play Roblox runescape and roblox is like
it's very like um infamous forlike predators playing those
games to like talk to childrenwhich is I don't know why.
I even giggled when I said that, because it's terrible.
I laugh when things are awkward.

(52:49):
That's always been a down.
I'll be delivering bad news andI can't help but like Smile
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Smile through the pain.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
So yeah, I don't know , I think, but also we've talked
about this before where ourparents were not even remotely a
part of the Internet age and solike there really was just no
knowledge on how to even protecta child from anything on the
Internet.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Dude, I was playing Guild Wars and MMO in sixth
grade and my parents had no ideaLike what.
I could have gotten into someshit man.
No MMO in 6th grade and myparents had no idea I could have
gotten into some shit man.
My parents had no idea.
They never watched me play.
They never saw what type of gameit was or what things I was
exposed to.

(53:38):
I remember the day I realizedthat the game comes with a
default chat filter and Iremember, and I turned that
setting off comes with a defaultchat filter and I remember,
like, and I turned that settingoff.
I was like, oh, fuck, oh itworked.
I remember like it's shockinghow I didn't end up more screwed

(54:03):
up Because of like Very welladjusted.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Yeah because I could have.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
I mean especially the way I played.
I was like voice chatting inmiddle school with adults.
Some shit could have happened,but I think that's.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
That's one of those things like me with the helmet.
You don't think about thatuntil you're an adult.
And you start thinking about itfrom a perspective of like if I
had a kid?

Speaker 1 (54:29):
yeah, but like how much there is benefit to like as
a parent what, what, what.
Like I look back and it's like,wow, what could happen?
But it didn't, because, like,on balance, the world is a good
place.
I truly believe that and I knowit's true and so that, like I
had a good experience.
I didn truly believe that and Iknow it's true and so that,

(54:50):
like I had a good experience, Inever had like any weird moments
and I felt like, if I can'teven remember to like a weird
moment that I was like, oh, thisis, I need to back out of this
or whatever.
So, like as a parent now,because it exists, I feel like
there's, because technology isand you can automate things
we're compelled to solve forthat ever happening.

(55:10):
So we layer on all thisdifficulty and all this crap
that we layer on that.
I don't know if it's good, doyou guys understand what I'm
saying.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
I think you have a skewed perspective, though
You're a guy.
You're a guy.
If you were a little girlplaying guild wars, you would
have it, probably would.
You probably would have runinto people that were weirdos.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
Yeah, well, even, not even if you're a little girl
just being a girl gamer, ingeneral they the unfortunate
reality is they're exposed to alot of fucks out there.
Yeah, and yeah, I think it'slike it's sad, but true and uh,
you know that's.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
I think that that does make sense what you brought
up because, like I think aboutwhen in a public school they
always have all these differentfilters and like uh, proxies and
shit that you can't like playany of the games online like at
school computers cool math games, you're not.
People always found workarounds.
Yeah, I remember loading shitinto usbs and like playing games

(56:15):
that way, and I mean you.
There was always workarounds.
I remember in high school afriend of uh, a friend of mine
had this like usb thumb driveact thing.
He shut down the fucking schoolserver because he downloaded
like this, this, this thing hefound on a torrent website.
He fucking literally uploaded avirus into the computer and

(56:37):
shut down the whole.
It was like a big deal god damnhe was like his like little
backyard hacker and he had likethis little paper in his pocket
and he had a fucking thumb drivewith all this shit.
He was weird.
He had all these commandswritten down on this piece of
paper.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
Was that the one that almost got you expelled, or was
that another kid?

Speaker 1 (56:55):
For what?

Speaker 4 (56:57):
You had a project together.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Oh, that was middle school.
That was something totallydifferent.
That was totally different.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
No, no, this was actually a really good friend of
mine actually he's, uh, my bestfriend, still hanging out with
him daily um, but like he, hewas like this.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
He saw himself like this little fucking black hat
hacker kind of guy in highschool and with the fedora yeah,
exactly the v for vendetta,mask yeah.
So, like as a parent, what doyou like?
What do you?
Do you go and you layer on allthese protection and privacy
things like on your wi-fi andtry to control, or do you just
try to teach?

(57:36):
like know that they're going toget into that kind of stuff on
the internet, they're going tosee shit way before than they
should know that that's going tohappen whether it happens at
home or with their friends orwhatever, they're going to be
experienced, they're going to beexposed to shit that way,
before you think, and so youjust like you educate your kids
to deal with that and managethat, and handle that as like I

(57:57):
think it's healthy to have thatconversation uh, fairly early
about.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
You don't have to go into graphic detail or anything,
but you can talk about, likejust internet safety in general,
what exists like you need to becareful.
You need don't search forcertain things like you know,
like all these different rules,you know, um.
But also when it comes togaming.
Hopefully my kid doesn't seethis as like me being lame, like

(58:23):
that lame dad, but the factthat, like we're all gamers, I
could totally see myself justgaming with my kids yeah and
like having a lot of fun hobbybeing like sharing a hobby with
my daughter yeah, and I could.
I could very easily like protecther in that way, but also still
have fun, yeah you know my Iwhen I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
When I was a kid, I wanted to play games with my dad
all time and he never.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
He couldn't give a shit about some of my best
memories were um gaming with mydad or watching him game you
know like, and this is like oldschool, like 90s, like it's
because I always, we always beatmy dad.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
They just always cooked him, he sucked at video
games.
He'd always throw a ball, buthe'd never.
He could not.
He could care less about videogames.
He'd be falling asleep playingMadden.
Oh shit, it's my turn.
I don't know.
I just yeah, I feel like youcan layer to the cows.
Come home and you can restrict,restrict, restrict.

(59:24):
But the reality is they're.
They're gonna get exposed toshit and it's probably way
sooner.
First time I was ever exposedto pornographic material was
third, second or third grade.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
Somebody came in, um, I was on the school playground
and somebody had a playboy no,well, they used to just sell
them at 7-eleven and I rememberwe'd go to 7-eleven and we we'd
laugh because they'd have theseblack filters and we'd sneakily
move them aside.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
You weren't even into it at that point.
I don't even think they do thatanymore.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Do they even sell that stuff there?
I don't think that they do.
I don't think at 7-Eleven,Because that whole shelf with
magazines I haven't gone to themagazine section of 7-Eleven in
a long time they didn't have amagazine section.
I was going to say they justhave an extra candy section.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
Yeah, like that's all they have.
It's kind of wild to think thatthey At the 7-Eleven by our
house.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Growing up they used to just sell porn mags, like
right there on like the frontcounter, like there'd be like
the cash register and all themags underneath yeah, and like I
don't think you can get awaywith that now the when the
7-eleven I went to, there wasthe cash register which was like
an island and then directlylike you had to walk behind them

(01:00:36):
.
But it was right there.
It was a wall and it was justmixed in with all the regular
magazines so you could go overthere.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Look at, like game informer yeah and there was a
playboy they sold game informerat seven well, just like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
So you know, they just sell all kinds of magazines
.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
That's how they even had a um, uh, an arcade thing
for a little bit at 7-eleven, um, next to all the slot machines,
like the kid be playing righthere, and then they're all.
The slot machines were alongthe front wall.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
there I'm gonna play some rounds like I'm going to
play some rounds.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Can you imagine spending five hours at 7-Eleven
gambling?
Come on man To your point.
I think that's a perfectexample of how things are just
different, but not any less goodor bad.
We had our own bads, a hundredpercent back then.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Yeah, every generation has their own totally
different identity.
Traveling and hearing mygrandpa's stories.
As a kid he just fucking walkedas an eight-year-old kid just
would around with a gun.
No, it's just like.
That was like a norm.
His fun would be fucking aroundin a field with a gun.

(01:01:53):
At eight years old.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
That was like a normal, like yeah, my grandpa
was homeless at nine in thegreat depression.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Yeah, dude, my, uh, my dad, he so that's a better
thing, right?
They his grandma or his mom anddad put him on a bus to san
francisco by himself and he waseight to get picked up by his
aunt and uncle.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
He missed the bus stop like he didn't get off in
time, so they lost him contrastthat with, people will not put
their kids into daycare unlessit has a live, high quality,
high definition, live stream oftheir kids so they can watch to
make sure nothing's which isfine with me which is so fucking

(01:02:41):
great, you don't.
You don't have a problem withthat.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
No, I don when it comes to my kid first off, I
have nothing against daycares.
What I do have against daycaresis how expensive it is, but
that's a whole other topic.
But if I had access to be ableto look at and view my kid, I
think I would be okay with that,even knowing that other people

(01:03:06):
did too, because I'm surethey're vetted you know I'm
saying that other.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
It's on the internet.
It's being hosted, so like alive stream okay, child is on.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
That is a good point.
That's my thing.
Not a fan of that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
I feel like that's creepy I'm really not a fan of
that, so daniel in the chat saysI want a live stream and so
many parents think that.
But like, what the fuck do youexpect?
Like, realistically, you seesomething on there, what do you
do?
You're gonna fucking.
You still gotta get over there.
Like, let's say, you see amurderer walk in and start
shooting everybody or whatever,like you can't do anything about

(01:03:37):
it.
It's already happened.
I I feel like that is so youhave to have, like you're paying
to your point, two grand amonth for your kid there and now
I don't like that.
My kid's livelihood is beingstreamed to the internet.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
Yeah, but there's all these horror stories.
There's all these horrorstories of kids getting abused
and kids I know why it exists.
There's a reason it exists.
I think it's like you gottatake the good with the bad and
if you're in that situation, Istill think as much as I like I

(01:04:14):
said I don't like the idea of mykid being on the internet or
anything like that I do feellike I would be more comfortable
just knowing that there's acamera holding people
accountable.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
You know, yeah, but then like, like okay, that
camera's only in one bit room,they go to the other room and
they just do the abuse in there.
I I don't again like, I feellike you're just layering on all
this complexity and I don'tknow if it actually benefits,
and I get that that's a risk,but are we really at that point
in society where it's like youthink that and I don't have a
kid, obviously, so myperspective is going to be way
different once I have them.

(01:04:52):
But is that a realistic concern?
I'm phrasing that wrong.
Is that?
Does a live stream even solvethat?
Are you going to sit there atwork with your kid up all day
and you're just watching them?
I don't know, knowing my wife.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
she 100% would.
Yeah, and I probably would haveit up too.
I don't know.
I think there's a certaincomfort of knowing that, even if
, like you said to your point,if something happens, how
quickly are you going to be ableto get there?
How can you alert?
I just that's my whole thingwith daycare.
I just um, obviously noteveryone is in a situation.

(01:05:37):
I mean, sometimes it'sunavoidable.
I'm very, very, very fortunate,uh, that I have, we have
support in our life so we don'thave to use a daycare.
But, um, I would like to beaware, uh.
But yes, that is concerning.
I wouldn't like the idea thatit could be ripped and it'd be
online or like somebody'swatching not you know, I don't

(01:06:00):
know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
It's just fucking weird.
So dan says I'm not watching amonitor, I'm watching him to see
how he's getting along.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
That's huge.
I see that Milestones are veryimportant, oh look, he made a
friend.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Listen, there's a ton of pros, but one.
I really don't like the idea ofmy kid being live streamed to
the internet.
I just feel like that's a hugesecurity.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
It's all on Twitch.
They have like a millionfollowers daycare.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
That'd be like going off right now.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
That would be a huge red flag that would be that'd be
shut down so quick if it was ona company like twitch.
Like I really don't think thatthat would youtube especially
they monitor up for it theymight youtube monitor children
stuff so heavily now youtubedoes does as they should.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
But you still have videos of kids playing on
YouTube.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Yeah, you can make comments, but there's no
comments.
Oh, like all ads.
If it's a video that's gearedtowards children, all ads are
prefaced with a pre-ad lettingthem know that this isn't the
official video.
This is an ad, you know, juststuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
And it's like children ads, right, it's not
going to show you like, yeah,they won't show you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
if you're, it's not going to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
All the ads are specific when it's a children
video to like children thingsyou know, I think it just and
maybe not the age of daycare orwhatever, but like I think you
just got to let kids be andunderstand that the world is,
there's risks and we're not, asparents, going to be able to
control it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Yeah, sign them on a bus to San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
See, that's crazy shit.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
I know, so you go from that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Within two generations.
You go from that to I have tohave a live stream of my kid at
daycare.
There's people, literallymultiple people, just watching
this and sitting in this room Toput them in the daycare.
They that is a feature they'rerequiring, like we.
In two generations you go.
Go from the kid wandering afield with a fucking gun at

(01:07:53):
eight years old to I have tohave a high definition stream of
my kid at all times, like it'syeah, it's kind of like I said
my grandpa literally this was1929, uh, because my grandpa was
already pretty old that time mymom was born, but this is like
1929.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
He got home from school and there was a note in
the door that said we moved, seeif your cousin will take you,
or whatever.
And he went there and they'relike we can't afford you.
And so he was homeless at nineyears old and he was a little
street urchin and he survivedlong enough to tell you could
join the military, but like it'swild to think about and he was

(01:08:34):
pretty well adjusted those arethe good old days that people
want to go back to it's calledcowpaw, I just like is that a
cowboy, head on?

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
let's extrapolate that with like uh, where do you?
So?
This is, this is twogenerations.
Where are we two generationsbut forward?
Like are parents gettingreports of like?
Are there like biometricreadings of like?
Hydration levels like hydrationlevels throughout the day and
and glucose levels.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Like you didn't, you missed your snack at 12 56, you
know you're, you're you didn'teat your you know, kyle had the
the thing for your baby shower.
It was like a heart monitorwith it.
It was like a crazy baby.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
See if their heart rate stopped or something, right
?

Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
I don't know what was it so there's a sock that you
can put on a child that has theheart rate, the oxygen level,
their sleep pattern.
It tells you what level ofsleep they're in like rem or not
, you know um and it'll alertyou the moment that something's
out of pattern.
Like it's, it's so and I would.

(01:09:39):
I don't even know if I feelcomfortable not having that you
know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Did it ever go off?
Yeah, oh really.
Well, it'll go off, if like foryou, though, did it like
coughing or something?
Did it panic you?

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
like.
Did it ever like, yeah, ohreally, what it'll go off of.
Like uh, for you, though, didit like coughing or something,
did it?

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
panic, you like.
Did it ever go off or was likea lot of false alarms?
Or did it actually benefit um?

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
I would definitely be more of a benefit.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Oh, it was okay good see, because we're such data,
we're such.
I feel like humans are so datadriven and that's why we've
gotten to this point Exactly.
It's like we only see thebenefits, like, oh, I want to, I
want us to make it a course,cause it makes sense, but then
it brings on this other stuff.
I wonder if, like you're,you're seeing like all these
like real time health feeds oflike your kids to make sure that

(01:10:22):
they're optimizing that like,or they're gonna be wearing
google glass and it recordstheir whole day and you have
like a vod review with yourparents, you just like fast
forward, like I don't reallylike how you talk to your friend
here.
What we need to do is we needto go back and we need to
address this language.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
Um, you're like your kid is at daycare and they do
something, and you like, come inlike through augmented reality.
What are you doing?
Come in like through augmentedreality.
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Well, because like what because I guess the
conversation is why do you wanta live feed of your kid?
So it's so important to have alive stream of your kid when
they're in daycare.
Daycare is certainly not to.
There's plenty of kids who arelike you go to daycare for a
while, not just the first yearof your life, but like, why
don't we have?
I mean, I could see this soonbecoming a conversation of like,

(01:11:12):
when my kid goes to publicschool, I want a live video feed
of their classroom so that Ican see and then I want to be
able to listen in, because he'sgot a presentation and I want to
listen to his presentationtoday.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
Kids are.
So I mean that kids are sovulnerable as it is, but I think
they're extra vulnerable whenthey're daycare age, um, and
there's a certain level of likeyou want to do everything in
your power to to protect.
You know your child.
That it's hard to really kind ofwrap your head around that
unless you're a parent, and I'mnot just saying that to like be

(01:11:48):
like elitist or like you know,like you don't understand,
that's not what I'm trying tosay, it's just I I totally get
it like I would be interestedhearing your perspective on this
, like in like two years, yeah,when you, when you do have a kid
and like seeing if anything haschanged at all.
Yeah, you know, it might not,maybe you feel the?
Same way, but I I think 100, itwill change because there's

(01:12:08):
just like a again.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
I can right now weigh the pros and cons, but at the
end of the day, when it's my kid, I just want the pros you know,
I don't really like you canjustify the cons, whatever.
But imagine this like all thelike let's say you're high
school or whatever, like there'slive feed of everything and
it's all recorded and postedonline and you go and you do a
presentation and you have aviral moment of you saying

(01:12:31):
something stupid or you getnervous or whatever.
Well, now you've got thisonline history now and it's
attached to you forever.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
It's not like a record, it's like a school
shooting to be recorded.

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
That would be, but we're, I mean, we're just even
thinking this is just.
I feel like this is coming likein terms of just everything
being recorded it's winter, it'swinter is coming, but like in
20 years.
What do you?
What do you think?
Like not in 20, like in twogenerations, so like 60 years.
Where, where is uh, where doyou think we're at in terms of

(01:13:08):
monitoring our kids?
I feel like, I feel like Idon't even know.
I do think probably morebiometrics and then maybe
something with like I don't know, because Everything that you do
, your activity, the internet isno longer anonymous.

(01:13:29):
Everything is logged with acode that you have like an
identifier.
And so then you have to reviewand log your history, and your
parents have access, until youturn 18, to that full history.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
I think they already do that.
They have something like that.
Like for, you have your kidbrowsing mode and you can like
look at everything they'vebrowsed.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
So I think, just I don't know where we're trending,
I don't know.
I think it's just more and moresurveillance, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
I think it's less to do with the tools and just more
being a parent.
You know you're going to wantto.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Yeah, you want more vectors to raise your kid.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
I'd rather have the tools than not have them.
Exactly so the more securityfeatures they give me, the
better.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Or, like Daniel said, see how he's getting along.
Maybe you notice, I guaranteeyou, this is an idea in the back
of people's heads Like, oh,maybe I noticed that they're
having these micro seizures andI can go and get them help, or
whatever, like, guarantee you,those are the kinds of thoughts
that people are having as theythink about this stuff.
They're they're just going towant more of that data, data,
data, data.
Again, it's like data drivenspecies.

(01:14:38):
I feel like this is what we'reuh.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
I think there's been a real shift in mindsets, though
I don't think it has.
Parents didn't care less backthen, they just cared
differently.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
And they didn't know about the technology being able
to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
They couldn't even think of it.
Most people Also.
Maybe there's this is going tosound weird, maybe there's less
to care about now, and the idea,the examples we all gave, was
like everybody was broke as fuck.
Right now you would fly yourkid to san francisco.
You wouldn't even think twice.
Hell, it probably cost as muchas a bus ticket.

(01:15:19):
Yeah, I wouldn't even know.
You don't have a homelessnine-year-old at least.
I don't hear about that everlike that does not happen the
moment some officer saw him onthe street.
He's getting picked up andsomething is going to that's.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
The difference is like, yes, the kid could get
homeless and they could, itcould happen, and then they
would go to like an orphanage orsomething eventually, but like
this was like my grandpa washomeless for like years.
People sold their kids.
Yeah, like people sold theirkids.
Yeah, like People sold theirkids.
He joined like a moonshininggang to survive.

(01:15:51):
He was a runner, he was driving, he was transporting alcohol.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
So back then, the biggest concern in your life was
am I going to die fromstarvation Because I can't
afford to eat?
Now your concern is I'm reallyworried about my kid at 10 am.
What are they doing right now?
And that's again, in my opinion, a very good thing.

(01:16:16):
Objectively true, the world hasgotten better year after year
after year.
So maybe not COVID year.

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
That went downhill pretty fast for a while there
that was a, that was a revert.
A little quick reset I thinkultimately, despite everything,
the world is better now than itwas.
Um, but I do think that withanything there's a lot of bad
that comes with good, and it'sjust you know, being aware and

(01:16:53):
knowledgeable, and how to combatthat or avoid it.
But to your point, you know ifI mean, the things that our
parents and grandparents wentthrough just wouldn't happen.
Yeah, and maybe it's better inour culture.
You know like and there's achance I want to be careful

(01:17:15):
about how I say this becausethis kind of stuff around the
world and even in parts ofpockets of the us does happen,
but it's just overall, I think,better than it was.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Yeah and and I think to your point, it might be
better because those thingsexist, because there is a live
stream.
So the person there that mighthave an obtrusive thought, they
never do it in the first placebecause they know they're on
camera.

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
Yeah, this kid's crying.
Let me slap him until he fallsasleep.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
I can't because I don't know who's watching.
Yeah, that might literally be afix for that, and in that case,
win.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
You know, Great.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
But yeah, All right.
Well, Dylan, where can peoplefind us?

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Well, they can find us on YouTube, Instagram,
Spotify.
That was such a good nerd talk,I know.
Yeah, that was a great Dunediscussion.
Katie ratio is your place forall things nerd.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
And family, and family To be fair.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
the title of this stream is this is the greatest
stream of all streams Of allstreams.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
Wow, we did not hit that mark.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
I think we did.
We broke some barriers.
Yeah, skateboarding Glassceiling shattered.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
Yes, three white guys broke the glass ceiling, three
straight white males.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
I put on a wig.
Oh my god.
So after you put, on the wig.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
What were you?
What would be my if I had analter ego?
What would her name be?
What?
What was the?
What's the batman quote?
It's put on the wig, put on themask.
What are you?
I forget what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
Wilma Wilma I looked like a Wilma Wilma's had better
days guys, wilma's completelybald With just long, just long,
like receding hair.
She's had better days, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Cigarettes don't hit like they used to.
Still carries herself well Justlong like receding hair she's
had better days, guys.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
Cigarettes don't hit like they used to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Still carries herself well, all right, patty, and
with that was it good Katie, oh,I didn't even say, I didn't
even I cut you off, cut me off,keep going.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
You can find us on YouTube, instagram, spotify
under Katie Ratio Podcast, wherewe post videos, streams, shorts
, whatever.
Come join us Tuesdays at 7pmPacific Time.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
We're working on getting a gaming day too,
because that's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Yes, if you checked out the stream last week, go
give it a like.
Leave a comment Do a littlecrazy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
With a good kitty, you get the dub.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Bye guys.

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