Unpacking X-Men, Film Mysteries, and Gaming Gems

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Whoa, I didn't know you spoke robot.
Pretty impressive, right thatis.
You should put that on yourresume.
Bilingual.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Binary.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
I can't compute Jokey witty jokes he's like wow, I
can't compute Jokey.
Normally, when I say somethinglike that, you come back pretty
quick with something and so,like when you didn't say
anything, you're just smiling,looking back and forth.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
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I had about three things loadedup, but let's say they're a
little edgy for this podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, this is a family show.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, that's what it is.
That's what I was hesitatingfor.
Gentlemen, we had a coupleweeks gap.
We recorded last week yeah,this week's coming in hot.
We got some big stuff to talkabout.
What have you guys been playing?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Baldur's Gate.
Oh God, you're lame.
Let me talk about no, no, no,no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I I okay, you can talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Talk about baldur's gate.
I have talking about messshivers binary no, not about
baldur's gate.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I've been playing mass effect shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
We're not talking about baldur's gate.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
I'm not talking about mass effect I wanted to talk
about cyberpunk x-men.
I finished it.
I watched the last episodeFinally, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Wow, All right here we are.
Coming to you live, guys, a fewweeks behind, a few months
behind I know that everyone waswaiting to hear our review
before they watched it.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, they were they were, reviews were virtually
non-existent.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, we could give a a season.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Hashtag thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Hashtag thoughts.
I thought it was really good.
I thought they set up someexciting um like storylines for
next season and um, theanimation killed it.
I think they did a great job oflike in the whole season
overall.
It kind of it starts off withlike the traditional, like it

(02:03):
looks like the old show, andthen at one point it kind of
slips into where they start toincorporate more modern.
Yeah, and I really love that.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I think it shines specifically in the fight scenes
.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Oh, 100%.
Yeah, it's just so good in thefight.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Oh my God, the fight scene with Wolverine and
Nightcrawler versus the humanSentinels.
Dude, when Wolverine getsblasted in the sky and he's just
slicing people on his way downand then he swords he's
controlling one sword with histail.
Yeah, they're just slicingfools and I love that they did
that as a way to get around thewhole like tvma thing because,

(02:40):
like we'll just, they're humansbut but they're robot humans.
So, they use that as an excuseto let Wolverine just shred
people.
And it's so good.
I love that fight scene, man,the final episode in particular,
the whole Wolverine trapped inhis own mind thing after the

(03:02):
fallout between their mindbattle.
You mean Magneto trapped in hismind?
Why did I say Wolver battle?
Yeah, like you mean magnetotrapped in his mind, why did I
say wolverine?
Magneto yeah magneto trapped inhis mind um I was like that was
so good.
Like that whole, like everythingabout, like the back and forth
between charles uh magneto andtrying to get him to trust him,
but he doesn't remember who hedoesn't remember and like, uh,

(03:23):
he's, he's about to likebasically be trapped in a
comatose state forever and thenhim overcoming that and like I
just I always have loved themagneto professor x relationship
, um, and this was like a lot ofthat and really well done
really well done.
It makes me really like man.

(03:46):
How awesome would it be to seethat exact thing play out, but
with, like, michael fassbenderand james mcavoy.
It would have been so good.
It makes me hopeful for whenthey finally bring an x-men into
mcu I know I want them to keepthose writers make, make.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Have them make the movie.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I know that you said the creator got bowed for some
unknown reason they haven'trevealed what he got fired for,
and he hasn't revealed it either.
And so, like a lot of peopleare like you know, like bring
him back, bring him back.
But I'm like maybe we shouldlike know exactly why they let
him go to begin with.

(04:23):
It could be something stupidyeah, it could be, but it could
be something pretty serious too.
We don't know.
And the fact that he's nottalking about it he probably
just signed an NDA, so it'sprobably not a huge deal or
whatever it was, but I'd like toknow before I jump on the bring
him back bandwagon, becausewhat if it turns out he punched
a co-worker or something?

(04:44):
It could be anything.
Not that I'm saying, it's thatwe should be careful on the
whole uncanceling of someone.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
He was just the head writer.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
He was the showrunner .
It was basically his visionthat created that.
The next season is also goingto be his, because he finished
season two before they let himgo yeah, and season two is
rumored to be dropped thisholiday season.
Wow, yeah, that's that soon,because it was such a success

(05:15):
that they it's already done.
They're like, let's just dropit again.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
It's gonna be some apocalypse shit yeah, well, and
they teased apocalypse, and theyteased um, uh, what is I forget
?

Speaker 2 (05:28):
this the storyline, but like uh, in the future yeah,
cable cable.
Just nathan, at this point,he's not cable, he's not cable
yet.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Um, so that'll be interesting.
I I love like you, kyle, I lovethe animation, especially in
the last few episodes.
Well, I mean the whole show,but, um, I was never really a
big fan of jubilee, but how theydraw her fighting is so fucking
cool yeah, when she I don'teven know what she like, how she
was doing it when she was usingher fireworks fireworks.

(05:57):
Yeah, she's just like, likelight manipulation.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
I'm not even really 100 sure, sure what her powers
are, but apparently she can makethat shit hot yeah, because she
was melting fools.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
It was cool.
And then I do think there wassome weak episodes.
I do have to say you know, Iknow we're praising it but like
to me I know you liked it Ididn't like the Storm episode.
I thought it was the Stormepisode.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
I thought it felt out of place where they put it yeah
just pacing wise, because ithappens right after Genosha and
I was like well that was such ahigh, so it felt like that
should have happened beforeGenosha yeah, like it should
have been.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
It happened right after and we didn't get to see
everything resolved in Genoshauntil after storm's episode if I
remember right, I think I saidthat that was one of the weaker
ones, because that was also themotendo.
Oh yeah, I liked storm as acharacter and I thought that the
second part of life deathwasn't bad, but I felt like it

(07:01):
was a little choppy.
It kind of cut up the moreinteresting parts.
But I also kind of felt that way, I'm not going to lie.
I kind of felt that way alittle bit about the Goblin
Queen episode.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, I only like it because of the animation.
That's when I felt like theywere like, let's modernize it a
little bit.
The first, like the fire.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
The second episode was almost peak, and then the
Genosha episode was peak, andthen that three-part finale was
amazing.
Everything else was good.
It just wasn't on that levelfor me, but overall the series
is a 9 out of 10 for me if Iwere to look at it as a
collective whole.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Definitely it's up there with Loki.
For me, loki season 1 andseason 2.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
If only it was live action, then Billy would be
partaking in the conversation.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Nah, I'm enjoying listening.
Are you interested to watch itat all?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
You can't get past it .

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I probably will at some point.
Now that it's all out, Iprobably will just sit down and
binge it.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
There at some point Now that it's all out.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I probably will just sit down and binge it, because
they're 30-minute episodes,right.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Some of them are longer, 30 to 45, and then
there's how many of them?
There's eight.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
So I can knock it out in the afternoon or something.
Was there 10?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
I think there's only eight.
I think it's eight.
I was following along with youguys.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
The finale was a three-part finale.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
I liked it because all three parts were pretty long
, Like it's not like you know,20 minutes on the last part.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
No, it was like I think 50 minutes on the last
part.
Yeah, you get like a good hourand a half or more out of that
finale.
Yeah, no commercials, so it'sall solid, you know.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
And I do have to say the first episode.
I think it has a slow start soyou have to go power through.
Yeah, that one is more to kindof refresh you on who the x-men
are, where x-men 97 was.
When it ended I still think itwas good, but I think it's in
comparison to like episode two.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Two all of a sudden goes, you know it takes this
huge upturn and oh I think, likealso you kind of you said, you
got this vibe of it felt likePower Rangers.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Saturday morning or something.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
I think maybe that might have existed a little bit
in the first episode, but thatdidn't really last long.
Shit hits the fan reallyquickly and it's TV-14.
It's not aimed at children.
It's aimed at at leastteenagers is the idea.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I think that was sort of because I was living
vicariously through you when youfirst started watching it and
you said when you started it youwere kind of like eh, where's
this?
From how Kyle was talking aboutit to what was.
And then, once you got to liketwo, three and four, you were
like okay there's actually apretty dramatic shift.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
One thing you have to consider is episodes one and
two launched at the same time soin my first viewing, I watched
episode two already.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, so I had already seen that by the time I
talked to you, I'd already seenthe first two episodes yeah, and
I would say the the differencelike episode one is kind of like
you, you get introduced tosunspot and that's he's kind of
like the go team, like he's yourthe audience's window into the
x-men, like that's what he'ssupposed to be, but very soon

(10:10):
they kind of drop.
Like he's still in it but theykind of like all right, let's
focus on magneto and theydefinitely are like who are the
interesting players?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
yeah, you know like sunspot is kind of just there as
a story device to explainwhat's going on.
Like Sunspot's there and like,well, this is blah, blah, blah
Sunspot.
You know it's better than that,but that's almost why he's
there.
And then they throw in thewhole like you know thing where
his family is.

(10:40):
They don't yeah they don't likemutants and stuff.
It's kind of interesting, butI'm more interested in Sunspot.
Now that he's using all hispowers and he's full power level
, was Sunspot one of the onesthat went back in time?
No, he's still in the presentwith Jubilee.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Because they were still on Earth, they were still
looking up.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
They're literally at the end of the series and we've
already so much and that youdon't seem to care, so I'm just
gonna keep going they.
So there's like a a time likeexplosion, where asteroid m yeah
um, where a whole group of themwent back in time.
They were sent back to likeancient egypt, where apocalypse

(11:25):
first was around.
He was like the first evermutant and that's why he's so
powerful, because he's beenalive all this time and he's
like not quite, uh, like athanos level threat, but he's up
there for sure you've seen himin a movie he.
That was a very badrepresentation of apocalypse,
but apocalypse has been in themovies um, so they're, they go

(11:47):
back in time and it's when he'slike he's first, like kind of
like seeing his powers and stuff.
Um, that'll be interestingbecause they could do anything
with that.
Like apocalypse could be a goodguy they could do the whole
corruption of apocalypse or,like you know, they could do
some type of they could evenlike bring a good apocalypse to
help fight the bag up badapocalypse in the future, like

(12:08):
there's so many things theycould do with that, and then,
like some of them, went to thefuture it was only two of them.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Right, it's only.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
It was gene and scott yeah, conveniently they're like
oh hey now that we're byourselves, um.
So that'll be interestingbecause then we could see the
arc of how, like, nathan becomesCable, you know.
So it's just like a lot ofreally cool things they could do
.
They teased potentiallybringing Gambit back to life as
like a Because Apocalypse hasthese followers, kind of in the

(12:36):
same way that Thanos does, butApocalypse has.
He calls them the four horsemenof the Apocalypse Famine death,
famine death and whatever.
Horsemen of the apocalypse,famine death, famine death and
whatever.
And so he like he imbuesmutants with like tremendous
power and then he makes them oneof his horsemen and they they
kind of tease that they're goingto bring gambit back to life as
one of apocalypse four horsemen, so like he's not going to be

(12:58):
like the same gambit, but he'sgoing to be like an evil version
of gambit.
Um, so we'll see what happens.
It can go anywhere, but I'msuper excited on how it left off
.
It's one of the best things.
It's one of the most hypedthings I've been about Marvel in
at least a couple of years, forsure.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Who plays?
Haven't we seen Gambit onscreen before?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, he was played by Taylor Kitsch.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah from John Carter from Mars.
Yeah, that guy gambit on screenbefore.
Yeah, he was played by taylorkitch.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah from john carter from mars yeah that guy geez,
that's not, he played kind of ashitty version of gambit in
x-men origins wolverine I mean alot of, sadly, a lot of the the
live action x-men aren't asdeveloped.
They're not as well cast aswolverine x-men sort of, and
this is not just the movies,it's also the comics and the TV

(13:47):
show.
It sort of became likeWolverine and the X-Men, you
know, like it was the Wolverineshow plus the X-Men and they
definitely in this series theylet Wolverine, he has his
moments of badassery for sure,but the show's not his show.
It's like he's one of thesupporting characters.
I would argue that it's morelike Rogue, Cyclops, Magneto and

(14:15):
Charles.
It's like they're the mainfocus and that's kind of what I
liked about I mean, obviouslyRogue and Cyclops weren't in it,
but that's kind of what I likedabout First Class.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
It's because it was.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
It was the people you're not used to.
They have more interestingcharacters than just Wolverine,
you know.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
But he's popular for a reason.
Wolverine's cool, yeah, butit's nice to let other people
shine.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Was Wolverine the go-to guy in the X-Men comics as
well.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Or did Hugh Jackman's portrayal just?
He got really wolverine, gotreally popular in the 80s and
90s and he actually wasn't evenin the x-men.
When it first came out, um, itwasn't much.
It wasn't until like later, um,and then the x-men tv show,
which this is a continuation of,also was very heavily focused
on wolverine.
And then when, uh, hugh jackmantook over, it was it that like

(15:09):
solidified it as he's the maincharacter.
Um, but when x-men first cameout, uh, it was beast jean, gray
, cyclops, ice man, angel, angeland professor x.
That was the x-men, that was itand beast was human he was
still in his human.
He wasn't hairy, he just had hejust had big feet yeah, he was.

(15:33):
He was beast light like he waslike he had all like the same
powers.
But um, he turned it, whichhappened in the movies too.
Yeah, he turned into the hairybeast when he would like, when
he tried to cure himself hetried to cure himself.
And then what it did it like itwas the opposite and it mutated
him even more and he becameeven more beast like, because
you know beasts are bluenaturally naturally you know

(15:55):
funny story about that is um,they used to pick colors like
that like thing is orange, beastis blue, hulk is green.
Um, because it was easier toprint vibrant colors.
Back in those days they hadhard.
Gray Hulk was originally grayand they had a hard time.
The gray would be differentcolors depending on the page and

(16:18):
it wasn't consistent.
Because they had a hard timebeing consistent with gray.
And so Stan Lee was like well,what color can you do?
That's consistent.
And they were like green.
He was like all right, makeHulk green.
And that was literally all thethought they had in it.
And then now it's such aniconic color for the Hulk.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I almost like that they use vibrant colors because
it makes the characters truly dofeel completely different, make
them pop.
And you could do so much withlike gamma, being green and like
you know, gamma, gammaradiation and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, it just kind of worked out that way that that
he's green and you know.
But they didn't even thinkabout that at the time.
It was just because they saygreen was the easiest, easiest
color to be consistent with andstanley was like all right, sure
it is wild how that ends upinfluencing, because that story
reminds me of like with dragonball.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Goku, like super saiyan, is only blonde because
it was cheaper to make the hairwhite in the manga, and so like
that's it.
That's the only reason it wascheaper.
Rather than fully shade in hisblack hair, they're like let's
just make it like white and thenand then there's whole story,
reasons as to why that happensand it completely changes

(17:27):
everything.
But at first it was justbudgetary reasons.
It's like we can't afford tomake his hair black every single
it's so weird, it's too much.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I would be way cheaper, I guess, to not put any
color versus all black.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Every single page.
How much ink that would add upfor all those different copy
runs.
Like that, one decision savedus $700,000.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
What the fuck, it was like that.
One person that was like gotthe promotion, Like listen here.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Like director of hair choice.
Like hmm, have you thoughtabout maybe making it white,
like oh?

Speaker 2 (18:06):
my God.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Fucking genius.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
So yeah, X-Men 97.
I know we're late to the party,but Go check it out.
If you haven't watched it.
If you're a Marvel fan, watchit.
If you're an X-Men fan,definitely watch it, and it's
good all around.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
It's right on par with loki for me.
Like it like some of the bestmarvel tv that marvel has put
out.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
I think like those two are top contenders,
everything else falls below itat least in recent times yeah, I
mean, I was gonna saywandavision for me, still up
there wandavision is up there,but it's, but it's not as good
as this.
That line still haunts me likewhat is grief, but love
persisting, or something oh, Ithought you were gonna say that

(18:52):
they'll never know what yousacrificed when, when, like.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
They try and make her the hero at the end, even
though she's been torturing shewas the one that kidnapped the
town, and then she let the towngo.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Branding all these people to submit to her will and
then they get two seconds likeI can't help me please, my
fucking mind's scrambled, it'slike oh, poor Wanda.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
You lost your boyfriend.
They'll never know what yousacrificed.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I still to this day, though, even though the series
as a whole isn't in that upperechelon for me, but I do think
that the vision versus visionfight um is one of the the best
fight scenes in marvel for me,almost because it's.
It's not a fight, it's just somuch as it is a like a
philosophy debate.

(19:39):
Yeah and I love that that was atfirst.
I was ready for them to throwdown superman style, you know,
just go crazy and then, likewhen they stopped and just
started having discussions, likeand I love that At first I was
ready for them to throw downSuperman style, just go crazy.
And then, when they stopped andjust started having discussions
, I was like this is so perfectfor who he is as a character.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Aren't they making Vision Quest I hope so Last time
.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
we just see him fly away and that's it.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
He's pondering deeply .
This is shaking me to my core.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, he didn't even care when.
When wanda went insane, Ireally want to see like, okay,
we were able to create this guyfrom pure vibranium or whatever.
Like I'm kind of over that asan excuse.
Yeah, vibranium, he doesn'thave the infinity stone, so it's
like that.
That, to me, was how it like.
That's how it was originallypitched is that's how the whole
thing worked now he doesn't nowhe's just pure vibranium and
that's somehow just as good.

(20:26):
It says like it has he beenpower limited because he doesn't
have the stone anymore.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I'm curious to see how they they play that out on
screen and what things he hasand doesn't have anymore I think
we talked about this in thepast, though, how we got tired,
as we got really tired ofvibranium as a writing device.
It's just like that's ouranswer to everything.
Like vibranium.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
It's the most powerful substance in the
universe.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Like completely vibration absorbent, is like its
original description and now,all of a sudden, it can just do
anything.
There's nothing it can't do.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Like oh, you need surgery, I need vibranium to do
this surgery.
It's like what?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
the fuck For what?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Okay, so that's what you guys have been watching.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I've been watching some movies and stuff and I
found this subreddit calledUnderrated Movies and I didn't
find this film from thissubreddit.
But this film has led me tothis subreddit that I've been
going through and some of thechoices are like pretty good, a
lot of them.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Some of them.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
You go to the top ones, like there's, like.
I don't know if you've everseen Grandma's Boy.
I like that one.
Like it's just a fun movie, butit's not really like I wouldn't
.
I don't know Like I'm much morelike into drama stuff, so like
those little slapstick comedyones.
It's like I don't know, maybe Ijust aged out over something.
But I watched this movie calledthe best offer.

(21:50):
Have you guys ever seen thismovie?
never heard of it okay, thisfucking movie is is like it's
kind of like noir-esque, it islike this uh, it is like a
suspense thriller, drama movieand it has this what's this
guy's name?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Jeffrey Rush.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Jeffrey Rush.
Is that it?
Yes, jeffrey Rush?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Barbossa from Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Oh, okay, and this guy crushes it.
I don't know how much I want togive away here, do you care?
I mean, it came out over adecade ago no, you can gush
about it.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I've been waiting.
I want to gush about this.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I want to go for it because it was so.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
It was so not a film that I would be into.
So it starts off and like thefirst 15 minutes is just showing
you like this guy, jeffrey Rush, he's playing this guy named,
uh, mr oldman.
He's like world-renownedantiquer, like he knows
everything about all antiquesand it's just like can walk into

(22:53):
a house, be like, oh, that's16th century, that's a forgery,
that's real.
And and like it spends thefirst 15 minutes impressing you
about how well this guy is likeat his job how knowledgeable he
is and how accurate and how wellrespected he is, universally so
.
But then it turns out like youkind of find out that he's kind

(23:15):
of like on the side, runninglike a little bit of a scam.
Um, so like he'll he'll saythings are forgery when they're
actually not, and then get hisbuddy to buy the forgery item
because he runs auctions, andthen he'll have the buddy
actually not, and then get hisbuddy to buy the forgery item
because he runs auctions, andthen he'll have the buddy buy it
and then they'll sell it forlater on Interesting or he'll
give his buddy double the moneyand stuff like that.

(23:35):
Anyway.
So he's got this side littlething, but it doesn't seem too
prominent, it's just every oncein a while for some collector's
stuff.
And then it goes into this guy'sroom in his apartment and he
has this secret, hidden roomthat's three stories tall and
it's just filled with thesefemale portraits, just paintings

(23:55):
with females on them, not nude,but just a self-portrait if you
were rich in the 1700s, okay.
And he's kind of like an oldman version.
He's never been with a womanand like these are the loves of
his life.
So he would go into this roomand he would just see all these
portraits and I don't none ofthem like.
maybe they were famous paintings, but I'm not someone that knows

(24:17):
art, but they were just justjust paintings of women.
For the most part nothing crazy.
And so he gets this call fromthis woman and it's kind of like
this mysterious woman and heends up going over to her house
to do like an evaluation.
She has, like this old houseand it's all filled with these
antiques and stuff like that.
But the trick is this woman islives in like the walls of the

(24:43):
house.
She hasn't left the house inover 14 years so she hides in
the house.
She has like a what do theycall it like agoraphobia or
something like that, yeah, likefear of open spaces.
So she's been stuck in thishouse for like 14 plus years.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Her own house.
Yes, her own house.
I thought you were saying hishouse and her parents.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, her parents had died a year before, and so she
has not left in 14 years sinceshe was a kid.
She's 27 now.
So he's this old man who's kindof intrigued by this mystery.
And there's this like youngsexy woman who is like sylvia
hoax whatever, however youpronounce that who plays this,
this woman, and she's like supermysterious.

(25:22):
And he's this horny old guy,right, right, who's never been
laid.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
His name in the movie is Virgil Oldman.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah right.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
That almost sounds like virgin old man.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, he's like we need a name.
Let's be literal here.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Intentional.
Hold on N I think so L.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
So there's like some interesting quirks about her.
She's like a writer but younever really know what she does
or what she writes and she'sselling everything because she
can't afford the house and shehas caretakers and stuff like
that and you don't really knowwhat's going on.
So this whole time old man istrying to warm up to her and get

(25:58):
her out of the house and he'sfalling in love with this chick
and she's falling in love withhim and it's going on and like
the whole time they're like he'spricing all this stuff.
There's like this reallyinteresting like caught works of
cogs like around the the houseand he's like working with this
guy who's like reallymechanically inclined to like

(26:19):
build this stuff and this.
He's like he's like a youngerguy who's like really sweet and
smooth with the ladies you knowand he's like giving them advice
on how to treat this woman andstuff like that.
Then it gets weird, so likethen it gets weird, yeah.
So, like I, this is not a moviethat I would be like yeah, this
is, but like it's fuckingintriguing at this point the way

(26:40):
that they directed it andthere's like all these little
side things happening thatyou're like why the fuck is this
in the movie?
Like there's this uh littleperson that's in a bar that like
is a mathematical genius and hewould go into this bar and like
get a drink or something likethat, and she would just be
spouting out numbers and shitlike that in the background the
whole movie and you're like whatthe fuck's going on?
And, uh, so he keeps going tothis house, he keeps appraising

(27:03):
this and and she's like a shittyclient and they go back and
forth this love and hate.
She finally reveals herself tohim because he kind of hid in
the room when he left and thenhe saw her.
She freaked out, then theywarmed up, so he never saw her.
No, he saw her I mean beforethen, before then.
No, he never saw.
So he like hid in a room behinda statue and saw her and she

(27:24):
was like, of course, she's likenaked, like stretching, and shit
like that and it started.
The first time you see her,she's like naked and like
sucking on her toe, like yeah,she stepped on glass so she's
like trying to pull glass out ofher toe and shit like that and
so like why with her mouth, sohe's dude, because she's weird,
so like.
So he he's clearly like, he'sprobably like 70 in the movie

(27:47):
and she's 27, and he's likehorny old guy right, and so he's
like super infatuated with themovie Virgil Oldman.
So then it starts to get evenmore weird.
So they keep finding more andmore of these robot parts, robot
parts, not robot parts, butlike these cogs, but like these

(28:08):
cogs, like these cogs,everywhere around the house.
And they find out that it likecould be a part of this, like
art contraption by some fuckingguy who built like an animatron
thing animatron or whatever yeahand um.
So, like his buddy, giving himthe advice is like helping him
build it.
And this robot is hella creepy,not like robot, I don't know

(28:29):
what you would call it Likeanimatron.
It's not a robot, it's like,literally from the 1600s.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Automaton.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Automaton yeah, it's literally this and it's hella
creepy.
This is what it's like lookinglike and like it's all cog work
and it's all pre-recorded, orlike you know, it's all just
spinning gears and stuff likethat.
So it gets to the point where,like she, he gets her out of the
house, or he doesn't get herout of the house, she, he gets

(28:57):
her to like start to, you know,introduce, and you know, come
out to the living room, they'rehaving dinner in the house and
stuff like that.
And it gets to he gets havingdinner in the house and stuff
like that.
He gets mugged in the streetoutside the house and he calls
her and she leaves the house tocome save him.
He gets fucked up pretty bad.
He goes to the hospital and shegoes with him.

(29:18):
It's her first breaking out.
She's like oh, I'm okay, he'sstill doing these world,
world-renowned auctions thiswhole time and he's still
running this scam with his buddyand stuff like that.
And so it finishes and she'slike I don't want to sell
anything, I want to keepeverything.
Um, he's like I totally agree,because he's in complete love

(29:39):
with this girl at this point andthey're ready to run away and
move to like fucking paris andshit like that and he goes and
does like his greatest auctionof all time.
That's the young stud that'sgood with women.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
He goes and does like the finest Jim.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Sturges yes, the guy from 21?
He does the finest fuckingauction of his career and that's
what he's going to retire onand everybody collapsed because
he just was world-class and justgreat his whole career.
And his guy that he's beenrunning these scams with he's
like hey, you know, you neverrespected me as an artist, and

(30:17):
that was sort of like a runningjoke that he never respected him
as an artist, which is why hehad to do this scam or whatever
he's like.
But as a little going awayparty, I sent you a painting of
my own and it was like apainting that had been in her
house.
So he comes home and he seesthis painting and it's a
painting in her house, andyou're like what the fuck?
And he goes in to his fuckingthree-story big room with all

(30:42):
the women that he had beencollecting and they're gone,
they're gone, they're gone andbasically that's how the movie
ends.
And so there's all these crazyconspiracies of what happened,
but basically what unfolds isthis guy the young stud?
Yeah, the young stud, becausethis robot was the only thing

(31:02):
left in the room and it was arecording of like a great line
to just to be a final fuck you.
It was like this recording of,like every great forgery has
like a, a stroke of of you know,personality, of you know of the
forger or whatever.
It was something like that.
And it was that recording.
So you know that this guy wasin on it because he was one

(31:23):
building it from all the gears,and then his scammer buddy was
in on it because he was the one.
So then the final scene is likehe's fucking panicking because
he's like trying to find thiswoman he's in love with.
He goes back and the woman solike the woman he fell in love
with his name's claire, thatlittle little person that lived
across the street that was herhouse, that's like just this

(31:45):
like mathematical savant yeahand she's like oh, I rent that
out to cinema production people.
This whole thing was put on aruse by him to get him to fall
in love with this woman, to gethim to steal all his artwork and
stuff, like that.
So it's this insanely elaboratescheme.
What?
And like the whole fucking solike you think he would hate

(32:05):
this woman.
Elaborate scheme what the fuck?
And like the whole fucking solike you think he would hate
this woman?
Because he goes to the policestation but he doesn't go in.
He goes to like he ends upmoving to Paris, which is what
he was going to do with her, andhe waits for her at the, at the
, this restaurant that theydreamed of going to together.
So, like the whole like themeof the movie is like men are

(32:26):
simp to women.
It was like this insanely crazyfucking twist that I did not see
at all.
The movie was so fucking good.
And yeah, that's that's theroom with all the, all the
paintings, all of those arejacked and the only things left
is this fucking the robot, thisrobot, this automaton with that
recording, and it was just likefucking poetic man.

(32:50):
And so the theory is claire thewoman that he fell in love with
was actually an automaton,because she had a couple lines
what, yeah, how did we?
get there, dude, I know welllike I I don't think, like I
don't know if the movienecessarily directly draws that,
but there's a couple lines inthe movie, one in particular
she's putting on makeup to bepretty for her, for him, and she

(33:13):
doesn't know how to put makeupon.
She says this line.
She says I haven't put makeupon in centuries and so people
are like wait a minute, maybeshe's an automaton and he
figured out how to make her thisrobot or whatever.
It's kind of a jump.
But I don't know, man, I took adeep dive into this movie the
other night and I'm like this issuch a fucking good movie, dude

(33:35):
it's so crazy shit.
But it's like this whole lovestory and you're like, oh man,
you know they're both gettingeach other out of their comfort
zones.
It's quirky, it's kind of weird.
He's like three times her age.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
This is basically like a lover fraud scheme.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Dude a sweetheart, A sweetheart scam.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, like this is a sweetheart scam, but at an
extreme level.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
It was done so good because there was a twist in the
middle of the movie where youthink, because she goes into
hiding for like a week and theycan't find her, and it makes it
look like he kidnapped herbecause he fell in love with her
, that's what it makes it looklike.
But then it resolves thatbecause he ends up pushing him

(34:19):
to continue to find her, hefinds her and then it totally
absolves him, like you feel gooda bit with him.
Again.
You're like, oh wow, I wasdrawing to conclusions and then
like 30 minutes later it hitsyou again that like, oh no, he
was fucking scamming him thewhole time because she was like
hiding in the attic, the oneplace they didn't look, whatever
that is crazy movie, the kindof movie that I feel like I
would watch and it would make mefeel weird and uneasy

(34:43):
afterwards so dude, it was soweird, but it wasn't like um, it
was directed like a normalmovie.
It didn't have that like this isscamming friend that was a
scamming friend president, snowpresident snow from the hunger
games, donald sutherland orwhatever.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, that is um fucking bomb movie, so good not
something I feel I'd go out ofmy way to watch, but you do a
good job selling it.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, that was a pretty good synopsis, Dude.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
I was on the hook, I remember because my wife went to
bed about halfway through it.
She wasn't watching it, she wasworking in the other room and
I'm like, babe, I don't know whyI love this movie, but I'm
fucking hooked.
Right now.
I am dialed in because I'm likewhere is this going?
Is he just going to?

Speaker 3 (35:27):
fall in love.
So what did the numbers mean?

Speaker 1 (35:29):
What numbers?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Why was she a mathematical savant?

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, the small savant I don't even know what
that is.
So she okay.
So the way it worked was thatwas our way as an audience to
confirm that she was in factleaving the house because she
remembered everything.
So she was like you.
She talked in very monotone youhave entered that home 63 times

(35:51):
in the last two and a halfmonths, or whatever it is.
That's him like going overthere and he's like she's like I
have noticed her leave and come, come and go from that house
261 times over the past twoyears.
And then she says at the end,like are you interested in
renting that's my house?
I rent it to cinema people andyou're like what the fuck is
going on?

(36:11):
And her engineer the one in herbuilding because she lives
across the street, above the baror whatever is the robotics guy
.
That is so weird, yeah.
And it's like oh, my god man.
It was like twist after twist.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I thought it was going to go like full serial
killer horror until you laid itall out and then it's like, oh
no, this guy just got fuckedover.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
And you feel so sorry for him because he gets so sad
and he's angry.
But he turns into a simpbecause he was so sad and he's
angry.
But he turns into a simpbecause he was so in love with
this woman.
Well, he was scamming people,so yeah, as a guy, you just
deserved it.
He was scamming people, butyeah it was scamming.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
You connected with him, you almost forgave it.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
He reminds you of my scamming days.
Because he was scamming them,he almost forgave it.
He reminds you of my scammingdays.
He was scamming them to add tohis collection.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
It didn't show that he was selling these things, he
was just falling in love withthem.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Well, I think there's a fine line between not being
one of those alpha sigma maleannoying people, but also
maintaining self-respect andcontrol, and and this guy did
not know where that line was hesaw that 27 year old woman
sucking her big toe and he'slike that's what I need in my

(37:36):
life I feel like what?
and this is real life.
This happens if you're in asituation where something feels
like it's too good to be true.
It's because it is Like thisperson was weird, so maybe
that's why he was able to buy.
Well, maybe she would likesomeone like me because she had
no idea she was agoraphobic, youknow and all that.

(37:57):
But, like 27-year-oldsgenerally don't just go after
7-year-olds because they thinkthey're cute, right, like be
aware of your situation.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
But you know what's crazy?
Like they made it seemplausible the whole thing, the
way they set it up it was like Idon't know it was so
interesting, she was just weirdenough for you to buy it.
Yeah, because at the beginningof the movie he dyed his hair
constantly, like he was veryphobic of how old he was, so he
looked younger.
But then she made fun of himbecause she dyed his hair, and

(38:30):
then he started not dyeing hishair.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
That is so funny that his name is Virgil Oldman.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Dude, one of the better movies I've ever seen.
So any other movies that arerecommended on that subreddit
that you've watched A lot ofjust classic ones I haven't
watched.
Uh, too many on that list, likegrandma's boy was on there, um,
I thought it was likeunderrated soames like this fits
in that category, perfect, butif they're like have you seen?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
gone with the wind, there was a few.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
That was like um, what's that?
One with ben stiller like thefat camp one, the heavyweights,
heavyweights.
I feel like everybody our agehad seen that when we were kids.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
That takes me back to being a kid, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
So there's a lot of movies like that, but this I
love film this was a fuckingbanger.
It's on HBO Max, I think, orParamount or something like that
.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
I'll have to check out that subreddit, though that
sounds interesting.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Underrated movies yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
All right let's change this to top.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
There's some good suggestions on there.
Top all time.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Grandma's Boy, grandma's Boy.
It's on there like three timestoo in the top ten.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Running Scared Saving Silverman.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Saving Silverman is underrated silverman, saving
silverman.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Some of these, I feel like are just overboard.
Well, you're, you're looking atthe most rated, underrated
movie, so it's like gonna biastowards the top end, yeah
idiocracy is like a cult classic.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, I think it's okay, but I feel like there's a
huge following for that movie.
I guess, I don't know.
I I would love to see like, Ifeel like movies like this on
there would be much moreinteresting.
Yeah, Like I've never heard ofthat.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Right Me neither Well some of these movies on that
I'm I'm also scrolling through.
I've heard of, like I've youknow, idiocracy, grandma's boy,
what about Bob Bedazzled?

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Bob.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
What Bob?
What about Bob?
What about Bob?
Yeah, the one with Bill Murray.
Oh yeah yeah, bedazzled, like Iunderstand that Bedazzled.
Yeah, probably a lot of peopledidn't watch it, but I've seen
it and I like it.
It's a good movie.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
If I've seen it, it's not that underrated.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, it's not that underrated.
They have a waiting hot rodhave you guys?

Speaker 2 (40:49):
uh thought about going to see furiosa.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I are like the mad max thing yeah, it's like a
prequel is that out right now?

Speaker 2 (40:58):
yeah, yeah, it came out.
It's like I felt like it wasunder the radar.
I didn't see much advertisingon it, and then one day it was
just out I'm personally I'm notthat interested.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
I really liked Mad Max Fury Road, but the trailers
that I've seen in this one itlooks like I feel like it looks
too CGI really.
I don't know.
That's the impression I get.
Whereas Mad Max Fury Road Ifelt like was practical and
that's the reason I liked it,this one looks I don't know.
It doesn't look the same.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
I feel like I don't know nearly enough of.
I haven't even watched.
I've seen it.
I haven't even seen a trailer.
Like I I'm not, like I don'tknow, it doesn't look the same.
I feel like I don't know nearlyenough of it.
I haven't even watched it.
I haven't even seen a trailer.
I don't ignore news.
I feel like I have a generallypretty good grasp of what's
coming out and what isn't, but Ifeel like this one really got
by me somehow.
But it got really good reviews,oh, yeah, but it's not going to

(41:47):
make any money.
Yeah, I, it got really goodreviews, oh, but it's not going
to make any money.
Yeah, I heard it's going toflop hard because it needs to
make at least $600 million tobreak even.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
And the thing is what ?
The $600 million?
Jesus?

Speaker 2 (41:58):
This was just on an article I read.
I can't verify if that's.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Oh my God, I'm looking up, I feel like we've
gone way off.
It doesn't mean the budget.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
I don't know how they calculate how to break even,
because I look at film budgetsand I look at how much and it
looks to me like it broke, evenlike it's going to be a flop,
and I don't know where they comeup with some of these numbers
to be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
It says the budget is reported to $168 million.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Okay, that seems a lot better, the budget.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
but to break even, it says it needs to make around
600 million, and again I don'tknow how For them to feel good
about.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I don't know why.
That's the number that they.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Because corporate returns Kyle.
Maybe, maybe we need the 3XRinvestment that doesn't even
seem that high actually.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
And I mean I don't know about you guys, but in
regards to furiosa, I just themad max fury road came out what
like 10 years ago yeah, it lostsome steam well, yeah, it's like
I would have probably been moreinterested in if, if it came
out like two years, three years,four years after that one.

(43:08):
But now, it's a prequel to acharacter.
That was kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Mad Max Fury Road came out like 30 years after the
one before that.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, when I looked at the trailer, I wasn't
interested.
I guess, it got good reviews.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Who knows if it will survive.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Now we got the hunt for what is this?

Speaker 2 (43:33):
what are we looking at here, lord of the rings, the
hunt for golem, have you notseen this?

Speaker 1 (43:37):
have you heard of any of this?

Speaker 2 (43:39):
are we talking about this at all?
Only from you?

Speaker 1 (43:40):
yeah we were talking about this I'm gonna kick that
back.
I think we lost the uh the archthere um last podcast.
You were telling us about this,so okay.
So you said it was rumored thatit.
I think we lost the arch there.
Last podcast you were tellingus about this.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
So okay, you said it was rumored that it might be a
golem.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, so they've came out and confirmed it, I guess,
because I see an actual poster.
I don't know how true this is,but I think it's getting
confirmed.
I mean 2026, if they're writingscript, they've got to get
fucking moving on this.
But here we go.
This is what they own therights for.
So this is what we're fuckinggetting.
This is a Peter Jackson filmwith the original writing team,

(44:15):
which that excites me from Lordof the Rings.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I don't give a shit about Gollum anymore.
No, I don't.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
It's the hunt for Gollum.
You know when this takes place.
It's the 20 years in the books,from when keep it secret, keep
it safe, happens in the movies,yeah, to when he comes back and
and and asks uh him to throw itin the fire.
And it's quite cool, it's likefive minutes in the movie.
And that that 20 year gap iswhen legolas and um aragorn go

(44:44):
and hunt down golem to try andfind him and they realize that
Sauron got to him first.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
And so that's what this movie's about.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
I'm like fuck me, dude.
I'm tired of Gollum.
It was perfect for the Ringsmovie, but I don't need to see
that character anymore.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
So if it's a hunt for Gollum, gollum might not be in
it.
That much Is my hope.
Hopefully not be in it.
That much is my hope, hopefullynot.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
And it's just aaron corn and they're just, we're on
a journey but yeah, to find youknow how it turns out they don't
even succeed like that's not,you don't have anything better
there's so much more I know theydon't own the rights to the
first age or like thesomerillian stuff, so but like
come the fuck on man they couldliterally.

(45:32):
Okay, I know that the communitywould hate this, but they could
literally have a story around,uh, an unsung hero that wasn't
in the original movies, butthere, I mean, there were
thousands of people involved inthese battles there's so these
battles.
They could have so many storiesof someone that has never been

(45:52):
in the movies or anything, ifthey really wanted to go that
route.
You can't tell me that thishunt for Gollum is going to be
faithful to the source material.
If they're going to go thatroute, then just, I want to
follow some dude like some Rohanwriter that is just trying to
survive long enough to get backhome to his kids.
Make it like 1917 style, butlike lord of the rings.

(46:15):
That would be cool, you know,like they could do.
Not everything has to be aroundlike these well-known
characters, especially if you'regoing to treat it, no, and
they're bringing back, like,like they're not recasting.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
they're not going to bring back freaking vegal
mortensen, who's like 65 orwhatever.
At this point, andy Serkis, itlooks like he's reprising his
role, he's directing it.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Who Andy Serkis is directing it.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
I don't believe so, peter.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Jackson is producing.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
That's what it just said here.
Is that what it's saying?

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah, Andy Serkis is directing with Peter Jackson.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
So he just wants a star in his movie.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Okay, Like listen, Andy, you killed it.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
You fucking killed it .
Jackson is back as producer onHunt for Golem, alongside his
first two films.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Fran Walsh and Christopher Boyans or something
like that.
I don't remember his last nameor his first name, but uh, yeah,
listen, I'm excited that it'sanother Lord of the Rings film.
First name, but yeah, listen,I'm excited that it's another
Lord of the Rings film, I'llwatch it.
Yeah, I am not hyped you knowwhat I mean.
This is not something that I'mlike yeah, Now Rings of Power,
Season 2, yes.

(47:20):
But this nah.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
He did Venom, let there Be Carnage.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Who did?

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Circus.
He directed that.
That's what it says right thereVenom, Let there Be Carnage.
Who did Circus?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
You know what they saw.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
He directed that.
That's what it says right there.
Circus has developed his bonafides as a director of
blockbuster films with I didn'tknow.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
He directed Venom, Let there Be Carnage.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Let there.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Be Carnage the second .

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Venom.
They saw how great the videogame Gollum did and they're like
we need that as a movie.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
That would sell like hot cakes.
Yeah, yep, yeah.
I mean, I love andy circus, Ithink he does great, but I don't
, I don't care about golem and Iwould just, as as a new lord of
the rings, like enjoyer um justcome up with something new
there's so much that world thatI would rather explore than the
weird balding creature.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, I'm telling you , man, like a good grounded
story of just a normal person.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Aren't there more rangers than just fucking
Aragorn?

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah, the Dunedain, the Dunedain.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Yeah, yeah, let's do that.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
There are a few that remain.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Let's do the you just through um shadow mordor, let's
do.
Let's make a movie out of that.
Yeah, that's an originalcharacter.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
That'd be phenomenal talion, I okay, you're a ranger
and you're literally goingthrough and like you don't even
have to have the whole kelobrimbor spirit imbued, whatever,
yeah, you could literally justbe like we're hunting orcs and
you're collecting intel on theorc captains and you're finding
the war chiefs.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Add some special items that are cool, like oh,
this is the sword of blah blah,blah blah.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yep, I could kill this, yep.
And then you literally just gothrough and you weaken Sauron's
army yeah Easy.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Ends with a fight against a general.
That's really cool.
They could have an office stylecomedy, yes, set in the world
of lord of the rings in middleearth specifically the shire.
It's the office, but it's allhobbits that would actually
probably be funny.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
What?

Speaker 1 (49:19):
about like a classic style, like ncis all right or
like or like yeah to say.
Castle.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Like style, like that where they're the ranger.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
They get a report in like oh, this band of Uruks are
fucking things up or orcs orwhatever, and here's the leader.
And then they spend a wholeepisode and they go and kill
them, and then the next one's acompletely new band of bandits.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
They have to go kill that one.
They have to go get itserialized.
Everyone's a little different.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Kill that one.
Everyone's a little different.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
They can have fun with that.
It's a noir-style thriller.
Said in the 21st century, someguy narrating with a pipe.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
I came back that night and she was gone.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
We talked about this a million times.
You could do so much, but theydon't want to.
What's low risk?
Did you see how big the textGollum was?
Gollum you could do so much,but they don't want to.
What's low risk the hunt for?
Did you see how big the textGollum was, gollum, gollum oh my
God, gollum, gollum.
I could do that.
I love those guys.
I love them.
I love that guy.
I'm so by little plushie ofGollum.

(50:23):
He's so cute, especially whenhe burns alive at the end.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Yeah, he's so cute, he's so happy, he smiles while
igniting, while igniting.
Holding the ring.
I do love that touch of thefilm where he's so enamored by
it that he literally holds itout of the lava as long as he
can.
That's a good touch for me.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
But I don't need to see a movie on Gollum.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
No, that's a good touch for me, but I don't need
to see a movie on Gollum.
No, he's good for the film andthe books as a sort of a
cautionary tale slash plotdevice to show the horrors that
could happen to someone thatbecomes too obsessed with it.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
If they hold on to the movie for too long.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
There's a story around more than what we've
already got.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Well, and we know the story.
You see it in the movie.
He portrayed his best friend,and that's it like what else you
know.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
He hung out around in a cave like eating fish for 500
years.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, do you ever wonder like why he succumbed so
quickly?

Speaker 1 (51:25):
true weak hobbitses like hobbits.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Hobbits a subset of hobbits.
Right, he's like, he's likeneanderthal neanderthal right
that's.
I haven't heard that I thoughtthat's how it was he's like are
you?

Speaker 1 (51:38):
is there racism within the hobbit community?

Speaker 3 (51:41):
no, but he's like a subset.
He's like a where hobbits kindof drifted off from him.
The full of the took.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
The tooks are the adventurous ones.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Was Gollum a Neanderthal hobbit Maybe.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
So it says he was a Storish hobbit, which is one of
the three races of hobbit inMiddle-earth.
He went by the name of Smeagol.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
It doesn't say that they're lesser hobbitsbits,
they're just a type of hobbit,more like men easily corrupted.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
They're not from the shire.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Like bilbo's hobbit and frodo's hobbit, I feel like
we're much more resistant yeah,the fact that bilbo just drops
the ring on the floor and walksout, that's insane.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
It's a lot of willpower, Although he almost
loses it when there's that jumpscare where he's like and he
looks all creepy.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
He just wanted it one more time, I know.
And then even at the end, doyou have that ring, grandson, my
nephew.
It's a shame.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I would have liked to have seen it one last time.
He does that again.
You know what.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Here's some Mithril.
It's more than the entire valueof the Shire.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Saved his life.
Did it save his life more thanthe one time the Mithril or is
it just the one time with the?

Speaker 1 (53:03):
ogre, it's just the one time.
At least in the film, I don'tknow in the books.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
You time okay, at least for in the film, I don't
know.
In the books you played throughshadow mordor, you inspired me
to.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Thankfully it's on game pass I downloaded.
Oh it is, I didn't even check,I never checked and I have war
not shadow mordor war for moreor the shadow war was war for
more war for is the one that'son game pass.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Oh, okay, cool I got them both unfortunately it's, I
have to say on console it's.
It's pretty bad like reallyjust like gameplay wise?
No, just, and it's gonna soundelitist.
But there's no option for framerate, so it's stuck it as like
a solid 30, 40 and it's bad.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
What about on Steam?

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Deck it might, but I'd have to buy it there.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
I know you said it was on sale, but Can you put?

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Game Pass on your Steam Deck.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
I'm pretty sure you can.
I probably could.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
It's just Windows.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
I tried to play it in that frame rate.
I was like this is tough.
I know my Xbox whatever fuck, Igot Series X, linux.
I was like this is tough.
I was like I know my Xboxwhatever fuck I got Series X can
handle better than this.
And also, talion is ugly.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Talion is I need my character to look cool?

Speaker 3 (54:20):
No, I'm just saying he's ugly, is he when you look?

Speaker 1 (54:23):
at him, that never crossed my mind it's like Kyle,
I don't play.
I don't think your characterslook like you.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Yeah, true, it's like I don't think you care what
your characters look like.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Yeah, true, it's like Kyle you know, Batman, all the
games, how Bruce Wayne was kindof weird looking.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yeah, I'm always like put your mask back on, bro,
yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Talion looks like that and I'm like Alright.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I just started Shadow War because I beat Shadow
Mordor.
I have to tell you about myexperience in Shadow Mordor.
I I have to tell you about myexperience in Shadow Mordor.
I had to fight this one captain.
Let me read you his.
I took a photo of it.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Did I send it to you guys?
I think you did.
He's fucking stacked.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
I need to tell you guys about how beastly this guy,
this captain, was.
It took forever to take himdown.
Okay, ready, his weaknesses canbe branded, that's it.
Okay, that's all his strengths.
Invulnerable to stealth,invulnerable to ranged, able to
kill monsters quickly.
So you can't get like uhkaragor's, like to sick on him

(55:23):
because he'll just one shot them.
Okay, he's deadly.
So his damage, his attacks, domore damage and what they
actually do is they bleed you.
So if he hits you once you, Iwas bleeding to death okay, just
one, hit once.
Once time hit, he does a groundpound, aoe, randomly, that you
can't like.
It doesn't give you a dodge cuefor so it'll knock you back and

(55:44):
then he can hit you, okay, andthen he's battle hard and he's
harder to kill and he has afucking shield which means you
can't hit him.
You have to like vault over him.
But his thing is he couldn'tvault over him because he had
like such a great shield that hewould grab you and throw you
back.
So you had to sneak up behindhim to fucking to like run
around him to be able to staggerhim, whatever he was.

(56:06):
Oh, then he had, I'm not done,he has no chance, which means if
he downs you with, all he hasto do is hit you once.
You don't get that last chanceprompt to like save yourself you
just immediately wipe.
And then he also is fearless.
He can't be terrified.
It never runs away.
Dude, this is this fucking guy.
So the last mission in thatgame spoilers the game's 10

(56:28):
years old.
Calm down.
You basically brand yourself anentire army of Sauron.
This fucking guy wasone-shotting Sauron's captains.
He literally was walking upboom and you see their health
just fucking bleed out and hefinished the fight full health,

(56:53):
fucking bleed out and hefinished the fight full health.
I literally walked through thatentire fight.
This fucking guy was so good,he killed me like eight times
and he was the ugliest fuckingguy you've ever seen in your
life and I hated it.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
What was his name?

Speaker 1 (57:02):
I know I didn't take a photo of that.
It was something random, Idon't even know, but this guy
was a legend and I want to bringhim into the second game.
So bad, because he was.
It fucking possible?
God, he was so good.
He literally we walked.
He's like uh, the maincharacter in canon like and I
don't know if you guys remember,but shadow of mordor, that game

(57:25):
ends like has one of the worstfinal bosses fights of all time
there's like it is not a fight.
You just like stealth on a guythree or four times and then the
game ends.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
I still remember the first time you played because
you played that game before me,I didn't play it until
afterwards your like arch enemythat you created.
His name was Pigug and Iremember you were like you're're
like this fucking guy and hisname was pig.
And then when he walked back,arch nemesis and it was like the

(57:59):
funniest thing, um, because hehad like the funniest name, but
like the way they chanted itstill made it sound kind of
badass dude, that's what I lovedabout that game was it made it
feel like everything was so epic.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
When you would identify certain people they
would chant, and then sometimesyou look at their names, you're
like that's not cool.
Like one that I already cameacross a guy in this in the
shadow war game, his some it waslike something the friendly and
he was like, hey, let's notfight, I'm okay with you.
If you want to just run away,I'm not happy with that, okay
and that's how that sounds likethere's so many fucking variants

(58:31):
of these.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
There's a character voiced by um, what's that?
Uh, he was in silicon valley,the, the indian guy, and he was
also in the eternals.
What's his name?
All right, not indian, he's, Ithink he's I know you're talking
about pakistani, yeah um god,what is that guy's name?

Speaker 3 (58:50):
it's on the tip of my tongue why am?

Speaker 2 (58:54):
I blanking on it, he got super jacked yes, uh
nanjiani, he voices a characteras a joke in either shadow of
war or shadow of murder, um,where he's just using his normal
voice.
He does, he does, yeah oh, Ican't wait to see that and it's

(59:15):
like it's just like, as it'slike a little easter egg joke
thing, and he just uses his samevoice but he says like these
intimidating lines, but withinhis voice, and it's super funny
well, there's.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
there's also like In the first game, you help this
guy named Ratbag get to the top.
You basically kill everythingfor him and then he cuts off
their ear and acts like hekilled them, but he didn't.
And it's just a fucking fungame.
It's just a fun game.
The whole game is gameplay.
It's just fun, it's just fun,damn it.

(59:48):
So I played that and then I'malso grinding not grinding, but
I played, uh, hades 2 a lot.
Nice, I'm having a lot of funwith that.
I want to see some moreitemization and some a little
more polish around, like thedifferent builds, because I
don't feel like a lot of thebuilds feel rewarding to play
like it.
It almost kind of wants you togo into certain style play types

(01:00:08):
, um, and so I'd like to seethat also.
It took me a little bit toadjust to this type of game
because I I for so long I alwaysthought like, oh, I'm gonna get
to a point where I get all myhealth back.
No, no, like I had to reallyrealize like, okay, never, ever,
lose health ever yeah so Iended up um it's in early access

(01:00:31):
.
I ended up getting to chronos,which is the final boss, and I
almost got him to his secondphase.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Um, but you never played the first one, right you
should, it's so good.
I'm enjoying the second one butyou could the first one's
complete he's not a gamer thatwe'll ever understand.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
You just got to accept that, accept it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
I've been playing.
I finally Baldur's Gate.
I'm slowing down.
I'm slowing down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
I started Sekiro.
That's about how much I was init before I slowed down.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Yeah, I started Sekiro again.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah, you know, that's the Souls game that I
played the least.
I've only beat it once.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
That was the first one I ever beat, and so I'm
going back through it again nowthat I'm a veteran Souls player
Way better.
It's fun, so good, you can tell.
I mean, it feels so nice goingto a game like that because it's
just so polished.
This game is like you can tellthey made it because they love
it.
They love this game and so it'sjust fun to play.

(01:01:31):
There's no microtransactions,there's no bullshit.
That's from software yeah anduh, I only I haven't even fought
like my first true boss yet.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Um, but that parry mechanic it's crisp man it's
crisp, it's nice that's sort ofwhat um the jedi games were
built around like style wisevery very similar because you
have the parry or you have thestagger bar that builds up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Did you ever play that one billy?
You tried a little bit yeah,yeah, so that's, that's what I'm
playing.
What about you, kyle?

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
um, I haven't been playing a lot of video games.
I mean between like justpersonal stuff and life going on
.
I haven't had a chance.
Last game I played through tocompletion was I did another
playthrough of the Outer Worlds,which is like it's a fun, rich
RPG but it's not a huge timecommitment because it's not

(01:02:24):
particularly massive, so likeit's fun.
If you want to experiencebeginning to end in under 20
hours, it's very doable to do itlike that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
So that's why I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
It's not overwhelming to get involved in it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
I played quite a few board games recently.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Have you heard of Monopoly?

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Have you heard of Settlers of Catan?
We played that and we played itthe other night as well.
That's just a classic, fun oneClassic.
I don't know how old it is, butit's probably like 10 years old
.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
It's probably older than that.
I think it's older than that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Yeah, I would say it's older than that, and then
my wife and I have been playingthis game called Villainous,
which is really fun.
So oh yeah, I've heard ofdisney uh, your play as a
villain, and what's really funabout that game is your player
experience.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Sorry to cut you off, but settlers of katan is 30
years old.
Wow, I would not have guessedthat came out in 95.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Wow, 29 years old um, what's fun about villainous is
every single person that gameplays completely different for
every single person.
Like, so you're given acharacter and you have your own
completely unique objectives.
And, um, like, the heroes arethe bad guys in that game, cause
you're the villain, obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
And um no that's what's fun, Like you get to.
You literally get to come upwith your own strategy for your
character.
What version do you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
play there's versions's fun.
You literally get to come upwith your own strategy for your
character.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
What version do you play?
There's versions.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Yeah, there's a Star Wars villainous, there's a
Marvel villainous.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Oh no, this one just has a Disney villainous.
I think it's just a base one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Yeah, yeah, they have a Marvel one Really.
Yeah, that's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
It's because Disney owns all those properties we
have, I think, just the base one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
So, like Maleficent and Jafar, queen of Hearts,
hades, On the Marvel one, Thanosis on the cover with his
gauntlet.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Not Hades.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Nope.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Hades isn't in there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
That's wild Prince John.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
He's in there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Robin Hood.
Prince John isn't in there, butnot Hades.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
I don't think so.
James Wood Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
We're looking at a list of characters.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Captain Hook Jafar Melissa, chris John Cleaver.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Park.
He's in an expansion.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Dr Facilier, he'd be a good one.
Oh, rattigan from the MouseDetective, great Mouse Detective
, and Elden Ring Rattigan, lotso, lotso from Toy Story the bear,
oh wow, really.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
That's Story the bear .
Oh wow, Really that's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Ooh, oogie Boogie.
I've never played it, it's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Who's King Candy?
Who's King Candy from?

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Keep going down.
I was going to say we have aphoto of it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Pete was a villain, Like Goofy's friend Pete.
Yeah, Originally he was avillain.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Yeah, because he's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Oh, king Candy from Wreck-It Ralph.
Oh Okay, I'm not nearly ascaught up on all these new films
.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
No, I didn't even know who Prince John was before
this past few weeks.
Like that wouldn't have IsPrince.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
John from Robin Hood.
Robin Hood From the 60s.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Yes, 73, I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
I don't think I've actually seen the Disney one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
That's what I was telling my wife.
She made me watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Wait the Fox one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
I don't know if I've ever seen that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
I don't think I've ever seen it I legitimately, she
was like you're crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
I don't.
I don't know if I've ever seenthat movie.
I don't think I've ever seen it.
And I, legitimately she waslike you're crazy.
I'm like, I don't think I haveseen it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
You're wild.
We have that to thank for.
Like furries, you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
That was the inception.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
It made an impression on us.
It did.
That's literally what I wasthinking about the whole time.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
I'm like how many people have seen they drew the
woman fox a?

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
little too pretty.
That was exactly what a furrywould say.
A furry, I'm not a furry.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
The whole discourse over Lola Bunny from Space Jam,
Now Lola.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Bunny, everybody can agree, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
There's so many good Disney villains.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Now Lotso.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Lotso is what I'm into.
I like more like the brokendoll.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
The creepy one in the first one With the spider doll,
alright, so Villainous.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
That sounds fun, though it is a fun game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
What are the villains in the Marvel one?
I'm curious.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Marvel villainous that sounds fun though it is a
fun game.
What are the villains in theMarvel one?

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
I'm curious.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Let me see Marvel.
You have Thanos, obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Hela Killmonger, taskmaster Thanos, ultron Loki.
I was looking at the list butyou scrolled down.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
I was going to show you the pictures, because the
other one had a nice littlegraphic, but it didn't have it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
MODOK Venom Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Doctor Octopus Kang the Conqueror.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Titania.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Titania.
That seems cool.
I mean what else?
You know what I want?

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Justin Hammer on that list Be able to play him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Justin Hammer is the most underrated villain for me
in Marvel.
Who is he?

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
He's in.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Iron man 2.
Iron man 2.
He's the Tony Stark wannabe thesalesman.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
You don't remember Justin Hammer?
No, he's the guy that says Icall this the ex-wife, and then
it's a bomb that goes.
He's just pink.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
This is the bullet that'll.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
This is the the missile that'll destroy the
bunker, within the bunker yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah I I, because I
that, uh, that actor plays likea lot of loser characters he
plays a lot of good characters.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
He's so good.
He was an argyle we talkedabout it like a couple podcasts
ago I love one of my favoritelines in that movie is when
they're looking at all thefailed iron man experiments and
that one twists the bodydirectly in half.
And he's like it was one ofJustin Hammer's and he's like
I'd like to point out that thattest pilot survived and it
literally ripped the dude inhalf.

(01:08:32):
It's not him.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Hit the next.
It's right there, sam Rockwell,that's exactly who I was
thinking of.
He's always in the Green Mile,yep.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
He's always in that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Every year they release that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
He's in it.
I don't understand.
He's been in every one.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Galaxy Quest, he falls in love with the lame
Charlie's Angels Dude I love himin Galaxy Quest.
Charlie's Angels.
He's good.
He's kind of like the loserboyfriend of one of the angels
of um yeah, he doesn't fall inlove with the alien in galaxy
quest yeah, he does.
No, no, yeah, you're.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
That's the other guy the other guy yeah, monk, he's
the one that's like, uh, whoa,hey man get a room.
Oh, that's not right.
And he starts making out withthe octopus thing I love.
He's all obsessed because hischaracter died in the TV show.
He thinks he's going to die.
He's like constantly.

(01:09:28):
Galaxy Quest is the one I wouldput on that list of underrated
movies.
It's so good it's like a.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Have you seen it, Billy?
It doesn't ring any bells.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
It's like a tribute slash parody of Star Trek, else
it's like a tribute slash parodyof star trek.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
um, but basically the idea is is they were in a very
popular star trek like show inthe.
Is it a series or is it a movie?
It's a movie.
It's got alan rickman, timallen, alan rickman, it's a
gorney weaver yeah, jesus and um.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
so they're like they were in a very popular Star
Trek-like show and now they justgo to conventions and they're
all kind of like what did we dowith our lives?
But this alien race has beenobserving this TV show, thinking
it's real.
And they base their wholereality so they base their whole
culture around this show andthen they bring him to because
they're like we're gettingattacked by this other alien

(01:10:21):
race.
They bring them here to helpsave them and so they go on this
actual space adventure wherethe ship is built just like the
one in the TV show, becausethat's what they had as a
reference and it turns into thisepic.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
And they're just actors, and they're just actors.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
And Alan Rickman is this bitter guy that he's a
classically trainedShakespearean actor and he's
this bitter guy that he's like aclassically trained
shakespearean actor and he's allpissed off that he's only known
as this, like character fromthis tv show, and he's always
all grumpy all the time.
But it's um a really goodsounds very uncharacter free.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Yeah, it's a very good movie, it's really good
sigourney weaver she wentagainst she went against type uh
.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
She played like the stereotypical dumb blonde.
Not dumb but damsel in distress, she said.
I so often play these kick-asswomen in shows.
I wanted just a chance to justplay the damsel.
It's total fun.

(01:11:21):
It's funny, it's got a lot ofheartfelt moments.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
And I would say that I've seen so many clips from
this show, but I never actuallywatched it.
I would say that it honors Star.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Trek more than it honors Star Trek, more than it
makes fun of it.
I would say yeah, did you sayDwight?

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Yeah, he plays like a little background extra alien
that shows up every now and then, oh Jesus, that's the chick
from Dodgeball, right when theymake her look super ugly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Yeah, is that the same one?
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
With the pigtails.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
You gotta check it out.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
Alright, I'm gonna watch it tonight.
Tim Allen is the star.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
It was like height of like Tim the Toolman Taylor is,
so he's like really popular TimAllen.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Did he play a Marvel hero, tim Allen?

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
I mean, he was Buzz.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Lightyear.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
He could voice him.
There's no way Disney hires him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
He's like Iron man.
Who would he even play?

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
it'd have to be like like it'd be like a retired,
like dad.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Well, it's like some hero that's like council member
somewhere, something like that'slike there for comedians,
that's like what's his namerandomly showing up in guardians
?
Uh, the dude from Step Brothers.
Oh, john C Reilly.
Yeah, john C Reilly.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
He's just in Guardians randomly and 2, yeah,
is he in 2?
Yeah, he has a family in 2.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Oh, I don't even remember him in 2, to be honest
with you, is he in?

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
3?
He's not in 3, though.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
It's weird that he's in that show.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
In that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
That's what I would feel like seeing Tim Allen in a
Marvel movie.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Like Will Ferrell, he does that noise.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Spotify.
I already said him.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
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Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
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Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
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