July 11, 2025 • 55 mins
RTRX 2025 Is Coming—and So Is a New Era of Leadership, Wellness & (Maybe) Love 💥
My guy Suraj is back—and not only is he looking more snatched than ever, he’s giving us the full inside scoop on RTRX 2025: the leadership experience that’s changing the way we grow as humans, business leaders, and communities.
In this episode, we get into:
✨ What’s new at RTRX and why it matters more than ever
✨ Suraj’s journey with functional medicine and healing burnout
✨ Cortisol, sleep, supplements—and the surprising power of slowing down
✨ What he’s really looking for in a partner
✨ Why I think this is the year we find him a wife 😉
We go deep, we laugh hard, and we say the things that usually stay off the mic. Whether you're passionate about community building, civic leadership, or just love a good matchmaking moment—this one’s for you.
🎧 Hit that subscribe button, leave a comment, and if Suraj sounds like your future husband… my DMs are open 😘
#RTRX2025 #TheKeriCroftShow #LeadershipPodcast #FunctionalMedicine #ColumbusEvents #PodcastInterview #DatingAfter30 #PersonalDevelopment #CivicLeadership
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey there you beautiful badass.
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All right, siraj, welcome back.
Thank you To the Keri CroftShow.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Thank you To the Keri Croft Show.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Is it possible you're looking even more dapper and
handsome than?
You were last time, I don'tknow I'm trying to figure it out
.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You're too kind.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
No, it's true.
Look at your pants.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Thank you.
Everything's real, tailored andfit, and you look fit, you look
snatched, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
What's going on with the snatching?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It's either the medicine I'm taking or, like
I've been, on a functionalhealth kick.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Really.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And so Marguerite Weston at Donaldson's been my
doctor for the last seven monthsand we've been working through
like my cortisol and all of thatstuff, and so maybe some of the
stuff's working.
I don't know.
I'm seeing her later this week.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
What kind of medicine are you on?
Please tell me, it's not aGLP-1.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
No, no it's not, no, it's like I feel like I joked
with her.
I feel like a pharmacy everySunday afternoon when I have got
my daily pill boxes in mymorning and evening.
But it's really just stuff tohelp with my cortisol and sleep,
and so it's all like naturalsupplements which has been
really interesting, and so it'swhat she gave you it's what
(02:28):
she's, yeah, she's given me,yeah so what was the biggest
thing that you took away fromyour like assessment with her?
you know, I sat next to her atdinner last year, this time last
year at RTRX and I, after shehad presented on functional
health, and I said to her I saidI bet I have high cortisol.
(02:50):
And she just laughed and she'slike no, you do, we don't.
I don't have to test, I cantell, I just know, just based on
the way you live your life andthe things you've said.
And so we um, we did, we did acouple rounds of the blood tests
and the saliva tests and we'lldo another round later this fall
.
(03:10):
And what I appreciate is likehere's information about your
body, here's where you should be, here's what we're going to do
to get you there, what we aregoing to do.
She would put a big emphasis onthe we.
It was like what she, as mydoctor, is going to prescribe me
(03:31):
and coach me through.
And then she would say theother part of the we is you and
it's the accountability you haveto have of your diet and your
sleep and your working out anddrinking water and you, you know
, no phone an hour before bedand if you are how's that
working out?
um, I turn the tv off an hourbefore I go to bed and I turn
(03:52):
music on if I am on my phone orlaptop.
I have put on like I've gotblue light glasses to help with
that.
Um, I don't bring my computerto bed.
I haven't done that in years,like that's I do that all the
time that's one boundary.
I'm not the best at boundaries,but that's one boundary but
isn't the computer in the bedthe best?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
like why is that a boundary?
Like, can't we just get and getcozy and work?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
but like, at like 10 pm, yeah, I need to, I need to
like, yeah, yeah, yeah so haveyou see if you slowed down at
all?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
no, okay, are you still single?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I still am single.
You know it's funny, it's sofunny you say that.
So last time I was on, wetalked about the fact that I was
single and the Columbusbachelor and my parents, who
they're on Instagram but they'rereally not, they just like you
know they just whatever.
And you know, the last time wewere here, we talked about a, a
(04:47):
pretty open post I made onmental health and I had to give
my parents a heads up, just sayyou know like this is going on
in public, don't worry.
And of course my parents.
I talked about that.
But then my mom was like wellthat that miss carrie lady,
she's going to like set you upwith people.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
She makes me sound so classy.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And and you are classy and um, and I was like
mom, that was a joke.
And my mom was like, ah, Idon't think it was a joke.
Why is it a joke?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And it's not a joke.
You just said no, yeah, I didsay no, I did say no.
So you know and I know, andeveryone who knows me knows, I
love a good like hooking up withpeople.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I love a good like hooking up with people.
Yeah, you know, I think Ishould be open to it.
Is is is what my therapist,stacey, would say.
Stacey would say, probablyseeing her next week.
She'd be proud of me for sayingthat, because I'll tell her all
the time.
You know, I'm ready to be openand thinking about a partner in
life.
(05:43):
And she'll say, ok, let's lookat the past two weeks.
Of'll say, okay, let's look atthe past two weeks of your
schedule and let's look at thenext two weeks of your schedule.
And I just have a busy scheduleand some of that is
self-inflicted, some of that isjust the demands of my job and
my civic life.
And then I've recognized, okay,I gotta make time for it but do
you?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
do you think some of it is that you are making
yourself so busy because it'sjust you and like it's better
than sitting there thinkingabout oh, totally you know.
So I think, if you found theright person, wouldn't it kind
of just naturally, kind of fitinto the grooves, or do you
think you'd be the kind ofperson that you'd have a hard
time?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
No, I think it would fit into the grooves right,
Because then I wouldn't have to.
If someone says tonight, hey,do you want to go to dinner?
And I'll be working all daybecause we're in busy season,
Someone says, hey, like a 730dinner, I'm like sure, why not
Like it just gets me out of theoffice.
But if I have a partner who'sgot her own life and the things
that she's accomplishing andthings that we're doing together
(06:41):
, then I don't necessarily haveto do that.
So there is some flexibility.
That's enjoyable.
But because I'm going home tomy apartment in the short north
and probably just going to eatand work more, why wouldn't you
just go out for a random dinnerwith a friend or a coworker?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So let's talk about what's on your like.
If you wrote out an executivesummary on your Kate, hit the
record button.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Oh, we're not recording.
We haven't been recording.
Oh no, we're recording.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I'm talking about B-roll.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
All right.
So if you were going to writean executive summary on what
you're looking for, in a womanand I want it to go from the
superficial.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Because we all have superficial things right yeah.
You're not six four.
You may not want a six footwoman.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, maybe you do.
I mean, listen, if my kids have, if my future kids are going to
have any chance of beingathletic, so maybe you do want a
tall woman.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I'm not going to assume.
All I'm going to say is let'sstart from just superficial high
level sure and let's dig intothe deeper.
I mean, does she have to be ofindian descent, like what's
happening here?
Yeah, um.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So if we start with superficial, I mean, I'm not
like um, I don't sit here andsay like, oh, um, I have to be
the taller one.
I'm five, five, five, like sixon a good hair day, right and I
add some volume to the hair andso, like I'm not one to say like
, oh, I have to be taller, um,that doesn't bother me, right?
(08:12):
And so there's that element.
Um, I'm attracted to a lot ofdifferent types of people, and
so the superficial side, I Imean, I don't know, it's like
tough for me, especially whenwe're being record.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I'm being recorded oh , here we go, we're all real
careful.
Am I the only one that's reallynot careful?
No, no, no, no, no.
I know, I know let's skip on,but culturally, do we want to
align there?
Is that important?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
No, it's so funny.
I think I was probably seven oreight years old when I told my
parents who were in arrangedmarriage that I was not going to
get an arranged marriage, andit's mainly because I saw it
happen in Bollywood and onmovies and things like that.
For me, it's less about thecultural alignment of being in
the same culture and it's moreabout the value alignment, and
(08:53):
so is it.
Someone who values community,respects, believes that family
is a big and important part oflife.
It is to me, you know, in theIndian culture and the Hindu
faith, respecting our elders isa really big I don't always
agree with them, but it's areally big portion of our life
(09:14):
and how we live our life, and some it's more values-based than
it is the same culture.
I was raised, yes, in a Hinduhousehold.
There are things that I do froma faith standpoint that I do
because I have to do it.
I also have grown in my ownspirituality into someone who
(09:34):
shares in that, but it doesn'thave to be the same.
I spend a lot of time actuallylike studying religion and
reading about differentreligions.
One of the nerdiest things aboutme is that one of the things I
obsess about the most and I'mnot Catholic is the Roman Curia,
and like conclave and theprocess of selecting a new Pope,
(09:55):
and like the politicaloperational apparatus behind the
Roman Catholic Church.
And people are like why?
And I was like I've always justbeen enamored with it.
Really, it was after Pope JohnPaul II passed away.
I just was watching the newsone day and was just fascinated
by it, and so faith to me isimportant, but it's more about
(10:19):
spirituality than a specificreligion.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Hobbies and lifestyle .
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Hobbies and lifestyle .
I like to be active, whetherI'm on my bike, whether I'm at
you know a workout studio herein Columbus, whether it's a walk
through the short north or ahike, so I enjoy being active
and someone to be active with.
Lifestyle.
Work is busy.
A lot of my work is civicrelated and dinners and events
(10:45):
and things like that.
People are surprised when Itell them I'm a natural
introvert.
I'm an only child grew up in asouth asian household.
My parents worked a lot, so Iread a lot and and you know,
entertained myself.
But I know when I have to putthe tuxedo on and and work a
room and so someone who enjoysdoing that but like also
(11:06):
recognizes that it doesn't wedon't always have to, but a lot
of my work is that and smallgroup dinners and things like
that, so just someone who's opento that being a part of life,
versus like going home after anine-to-five right.
There's just a lot of my like Isaid, a lot of dinners and
events and things like that youwant kids.
(11:26):
I do want kids.
I love being an uncle to mynieces and nephews and it is
truly one of the biggest joys ofmy life.
I've got a bunch of nieces andnephews in India and in Florida
and then here from work, we havea core group of us and there's
(11:49):
six or seven or eight kids atthis point, and so I'm a very
proud Uncle Sonny to all ofthose kids and love them dearly
and can't wait to be a dad.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
OK, well, here's what we're going to do.
Here's that we're going to deal.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
We're not going to scare people away with all this
roman empire stuff well, yeah,like that's like I'm kidding,
you know, but like you know,people have a, you know we all
nerd out.
There's a lid for every pot,yeah and I nerd out on a lot of
stuff which you're gonna findsomeone who wants to nerd out
with you or who's like great Idon't care about that right go
um, get fascinated by um theconclave, or some article in the
(12:26):
New York Times, or shining yourdress, shoes, like you know,
like I'm going to let him havehis hobbies over here, Right,
and and then you know also, like, listen, like at the end of the
day, like, is it someone thathas a similar value, someone
that I want to be her number onecheerleader and my hope is that
she's going to be my number onecheerleader, and my hope is
that she's going to be my numberone cheerleader and just as
(12:46):
ambitious but ambitious in ourown right of our own things and
a true kick ass partner.
Who, who doesn't mind thespectrum of going from Wendy's
to Lindy's like I can do it alland someone to just laugh with
and build with.
Um is is what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's a tall order uh, so social clips and sound bites
incoming into the universe forsiraj yeah we're just gonna
low-key this, we're not gonnamake it a big thing?
yeah, we're just gonna you know,ask and you shall receive
sometimes and the way that wedid this with sir anthony was
kind of the same way, where it'slike okay, if this sounds
interesting to you, and I'mgoing to give you my disclaimer
for everyone at home.
(13:27):
Because the first thing thathappens if somebody feels like
maybe there's potential or likethis kind of gets them rumbling
in their belly a little bit.
The first thing is like fear.
Oh my God, like what if I get?
How I could never put myselfout there?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
So I will let you know that if you do reach out to
me on DM or email, it iscomplete safe space.
I would never say your name.
I would never expose you in anyway, shape or form without your
consent.
So if you are interested inpotentially dating this sexy,
savage, handsome guy, You're sokind, you are, look at you.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I mean talk about the full package here.
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
So if anyone's interested at least maybe having
a coffee or something with thislovely young chap, dm me, and
we'll make it very classy andlow-key and no one's gots to
know.
And then you know, we'll seewhat happens.
We'll roll with it.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, you know, I think've worked a lot in therapy
about like putting myself outthere.
I spent I've been with Staceyfor probably five and a half
years now and we love Stacey andshe's pushed me in ways that
I've had to really grow andallow myself to be pushed and
(14:46):
there's a lot that we're workingon and so, um, and in the age
of like dating apps and Tik TOKand social media, it's just like
listen, it's like we're alljust trying our best here, Right
, and like we're all imperfectand find someone to be imperfect
with.
Yeah Well, we'll see what we cando here, so you know I just
love a little matchmaking.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I'm so glad you're open to this now.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, I'm much more open to it.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Good yeah, all right, moving right along RTRX 2025.
Yeah, so what's popping off?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
You know it's um, I say this every year it's going
to be our best year, and I don'tsay that just because I have to
, but we um.
This year's narrative is aroundpossibility and the belief that
, in order to think about what'spossible, you also have to see
what's impossible and go andfind and hear from people about
(15:29):
what could be.
And so we're going to open upRTRX on Wednesday morning, with
a welcome party on Tuesday, butWednesday morning with a woman
named Sharon McMahon, who'sAmerica's government teacher,
and she's going to talk aboutthe possibility of civic
discourse and civility, and shestarted her claim to fame during
the pandemic in basicallygetting on Instagram live and
(15:53):
educating people about, like,let's revert back to, like, high
school government class, and ifyou think you're upset with
your mayor, you're really.
You know, the thing that you'reupset about, or the thing that
you want to learn more about, isactually handled by Congress or
the state legislature or thegovernor or the city council or
what have you.
And so giving citizens a betterunderstanding, a simple way to
(16:15):
understand what's going on inthe world, how they can then
respond to it and go make animpact in it, and then what's
possible if we think aboutcivility and it feels like every
year we're getting more andmore uncivil with each other and
less and less conversationslike this and less and less
(16:35):
tables and more and moreblockades between people.
And so Sharon will be amazing.
John Hope Bryant is the founderand chairman and CEO of
Operation Hope.
He will leave the room in tearsbecause he will talk about what
economic prosperity, what thatmeans for a family and what that
(16:57):
means for communities, and howwe help more families get to
economic prosperity and live alife that is meaningful for them
.
And then Angus Fletcher isprobably one of the most
underrated, under the radarprofessors, academics at Ohio
(17:17):
State, and he leads the study ofand science of, storytelling
and of probability versuspossibility.
And he's got a book coming outa couple of weeks after Archer X
.
Everyone's going to be gettinga book mail to them.
And then how literature plays arole in our day to day lives.
(17:38):
And he's worked with Hollywoodveterans, the US Army and when
people like Malcolm Gladwell andBrene Brown, their commentary
on Angus's work is breathtakingand mind-blowing.
And I didn't know I needed this, but now I don't know what I
would do without it.
That's where it tells you okay,we've got something special on
(18:02):
our hands.
And then on Thursday, our secondkeynote speaker, a wonderful,
brilliant woman, laverne Council, former executive and CIO at
Johnson Johnson.
She was the only innovation.
She was an innovation officer,cabinet level innovation officer
(18:25):
, department of Veterans Affairs, and she led a multi-billion
dollar innovation apparatuswithin the US government.
And so one she's got an amazingpersonal story that I won't
steal her thunder but will shockpeople, just like where her
life led her.
And then she's got an amazingcivic and corporate background
(18:49):
and then bringing that togetherfor an audience to then share
how you look at innovation andchange and how you can do it for
yourself in the government andthen in the private sector,
government and then in theprivate sector.
And then Friday morning we willhave a very special fireside
(19:10):
chat very rare with Jimmy andDee Haslam, the owners of the
Cleveland Browns, and the crew,talking about possibility when a
family is focused on impact andon community and what that
means for across theirbusinesses and across from their
(19:33):
previous business life to theircurrent businesses, to
community, to politics and howthey've engaged.
Jimmy and Dee do not do it'svery rare that they do a sit
down conversation like this andwe'll actually do it in the
Huntington Club of lowercom,which will be really amazing,
with the field and the stadiumas our backdrop.
And so those are our keynotes,and then our masterclasses will
(19:56):
go everything from sound bathsto silent disco, to executive
coaching and mindfulnessmeditation, to the power of AI,
to the possibility around.
There's an entrepreneur, george,who has taken prescription
(20:19):
drugs that you and I would throwaway or no longer need, and
then created a platform to thencollect all of those drugs and
then provide those toindividuals in our country who
can't afford the drugs.
So, instead of wasting thedrugs, putting the drugs into
our water system right orgetting rid of them or throwing
them away, then how do you thentake those drugs that are just
(20:41):
going to sit on shelves eitherat our homes or in businesses
and use them for good and how?
He's completely, and it's apolitical issue because it
involves medication.
It's a logistical issue becauseit's about shipping drugs
across and prescriptions acrossstate lines, and then it's a
social impact issue of how youthen can make an impact in
(21:02):
someone's life.
Um, functional medicine.
With Dr Weston and Donaldson,health will be back.
This time It'll be about like,okay, how do you actually?
You get a blood report, or youget a lab report.
You read it.
Then what do you do?
So how do you go through that?
And then, if everyone remembers, like when we were in
elementary school and you had todo like the president's test,
(21:25):
physical fitness test orwhatever we had to like stretch
on the box and run laps we'regoing to have some different
stations of functional health tothen gauge one's abilities and
then what you can then do fromthere.
So it'll be a lot of fun.
Action packed Action, packed inthree days and, like the whole
idea, right is always changingthe way businesses and
(21:46):
individuals convene.
And where else can you go andhear from luminaries and thought
leaders in business and inpolitics and in innovation and
leadership?
But then also focus on yourselfand this belief that we have of
priming optimists for action.
So the world's a better placeif we're optimistic about it,
but the world's an even betterplace if we go take action.
(22:07):
And so then how do we then giveyou know, our attendees and our
community, the tools to go takeaction?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I feel like 2026 vibes is going to be a live
kerry croft show I love thatsomewhere somewhere in the mix,
totally like some kind of
Speaker 2 (22:23):
you know it's, it's so funny, as I was talking to my
team about that and I was likeit's, it's a podcast at a
conference or a conferenceexperience like ours.
It's like a fireside chat butthere's just a microphone in
front of people, and so theaudience then feels like they
got an inside look.
But I was like I was like youknow, in this final like five
weeks, my brain's all over theplace, and so so I said to my
(22:44):
team, I was like just so, I'mchecking myself on this, like I
love the idea, but like it'sliterally just a fireside chat
with microphones in front ofeverybody.
And my team was like yeah, andI'm like OK, sure, like, if that
gives people.
But I 100 percent like who isit that you've always wanted to
get onto the show, whetherlocally or, uh, and I would say
(23:04):
even nationally, and then let'suse our shared power and and
influence and do it together.
And then it's only, and thenthat individual's doing a live
podcast interview with you infront of a thousand people.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Couldn't we do like a musician?
Couldn't that be a different?
Like with?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
with a story that kind of resonate like 21 pilots
you know a story that's kind ofresonant like 21.
Pilots Sure.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You know someone who's local or like that, you
know it'd have to have the rightvibe and the right backdrop.
It kind of all was likethematically in line, but it
could be really cool.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
You know, the beauty of the Double Edge sort of
program with RTRX because weprogram through the lens of
leadership and innovation andwell-being is that can go in so
many places different, you cango in so many different ways.
The question is always is thisan individual or individuals
that will be able to share theirexperience and their specific
(23:57):
line of work, their body of work, but then share it in a way
that can be applied to one'slife?
Because we've got folks acrossthe entire corporate ladder,
from first year analysts tochairman and CEO.
We've got folks from 30 plusstates.
We've got last year we had 350plus companies represented.
(24:18):
And so then, how do you thentake like one nugget here and
one nugget here and apply thatto your life, and so that's the
beauty of it.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I want to be invited and I want to be involved.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yes, great, done and done.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I can really improve the atmosphere in a very
interesting way.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I that, I that I know you can do, so done.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I mean if things start to get a little crusty.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah and listen, we have big plans.
I mean like we're we're, whilewe are building out and running
out 2025, in the next fivehearts believe and will build
RTRX to become where people arelike, hey, are you going to be
in Aspen for Aspen Ideas orAustin for South by?
And you know you may not likego for the programming, you
(25:21):
might go for some of thespeakers, but you know that
you're going to run into reallycreative, compassionate,
committed, kick-ass people andbusinesses and cool shit's going
to happen.
We're going to run into reallycreative, compassionate,
committed, kick-ass people andbusinesses and cool shit's going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
We're going to build that.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And if that then is going to elevate the global
image of our community and thenour social impact element of
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Oh, thank you, I'll tell you, Iam blessed beyond belief in so
many ways.
You know, my parents immigratedhere in the early 80s with a
little bit of money to make doand worked a lot, and my dad
(28:18):
worked two, two and a half jobs.
When I was growing up, my momworked full time and took care
of me and they, whether bychoice or not, they allowed me
to seek the things that reallymade me light up.
And so I, from a typical SouthAsian male perspective, I wasn't
really good at math or science,but I was a history and
(28:40):
government nerd and I was, youknow, in student government and
I always got good grades.
But I, um, I was involved inother things and my parents
supported that.
And then I got really lucky bypeople who invested in me, and
so one of my biggest mentors inlife, alex Fisher he's got a
(29:05):
former CEO of the partnership.
I met him when I was 20 yearsold at Ohio State.
I interned at the partnership.
My first job was with him atthe partnership.
I met him when I was 20 yearsold at Ohio state.
I interned at the partnership.
I my first job was with him atthe partnership and he had a
sign on his wall is that aturtle doesn't get on the fence
post by himself, and that means,like we all need each other.
And, um, there is a like I wouldbe.
I would not be alive, uh,without a lot of people and we
(29:28):
talked about that last year.
There's a lot of people.
Like you know, by the wordalive, I would not be alive
without Brenda Jordan and ahandful of other people.
I wouldn't be where I am todaywithout the village that has
been around me, and so everyonewants a village.
I'm not sure that everyone iswilling to be a villager and as
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I've been, like just is in lifeand you sit and you watch and
it's like what does it mean tobe a villager?
And so, at 32, I get to do thework that I get to do and be of
service to my community and toother people and these causes
and my family and my friends,because of people that invested
in me and saw something in me.
So, one, they saw something inme.
Two, they saw something in meand doubled down on me when I
(30:12):
didn't see that Right, and sothen it's like okay, so you've
got to then be grateful for thatand, I think, find salvation
and inspiration in that.
But then we then got to like,go do that for other people and
then still continue to buildwhat we want to build other
people and then still continueto build what we want to build.
Um, and so I'm blessed beyondbelief, um, for that of the
(30:33):
people that have invested in me,taken a risk on me, said yes to
a crazy idea, uh that I've hadNot every crazy ideas panned out
, but, um, the people that have,uh, I'm very lucky to to, to
have been raised and continue tobe raised and invested in by an
amazing village.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I still think there may be a world in which I'm your
campaign manager.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Politics are interesting, right?
If you would have asked me youknow so, I'm 32, if you would
have asked me 16 years ago, Iwould have given you a
completely well mapped out planto run for Congress and Senate
and maybe even be president ofthe United States, and I would
tell people that and they'd belike, oh, that's cute.
And I'm like, oh, you thinkit's cute?
I'm serious, and what I found,what I loved at that moment in
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time about politics, was to beof service.
And since I was 10, in additionto other things I nerd out
about, my favorite show is theWest Wing.
And the West Wing is a veryidealistic approach to what
(31:45):
governing the country could looklike.
And I've learned over the pastcall it, you know, 10 years
through my work of there ismultiple ways to be of service.
There's multiple ways to beinvolved in both politics and
policy, which are two differentthings, and right now it's
really messy, as we're seeing,and it's really tough to get
(32:07):
things done and it's tough tofind consensus and compromise.
I like the position I get towork in now around some of that
work, but never say never.
But the dream or the goal ofbeing purely in politics has
dwindled a bit, but I foundother ways to be of service and
(32:28):
to find vocation and opportunitythere.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
So entice somebody who's never been to RTRX or
they're on the fence.
Why spend my time there?
Kick it home for us.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
The way I look at it is, time and energy are our most
valuable assets and we are allso fragmented.
And so if you can go to oneexperience and over four days
and you can invest and grow inyour business and build your
brand as an individual.
In your business, you caninvest in yourself from the
(33:03):
content and leadershipdevelopment, you can have fun
and you can participate in asocial impact movement and you
can be a part of bending the arcof progress, you can do it all
in one experience, all in onetrip, all in one credential like
why not do that?
So why not, instead of doingall of those things four or five
(33:26):
things, different days,different, different weeks,
different registrations if youcould do it all in one and know
that you're going to leave abetter person and that you're
going to leave better foryourself, for your community,
for your business, for yourfamily, then what would stop you
from showing up?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
That's why they pay you the big bucks.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
We'll go with that.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Did you practice that ?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
No, I didn't Jesus.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Raj, my God.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Okay, now I want to turn the table.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Turn the mic, turn the table.
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
It's like we always have this conversation every
year and then we're like textingback and forth.
But how in the world is KeriCroft?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Oh gosh, what a loaded question.
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Things are really good over here.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
So I was at a conference over the weekend and,
instead of asking talking aboutthe weather or what do you do
for a living we're supposed toask two questions when you meet
somebody.
So I'm going to ask thosequestions to you.
One is what is, what issomething that you're working on
that you're most excited about,most passionate about right now
(34:35):
?
So I'll let you answer.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Well, Siraj, that's easy.
The B-Lab.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
The B-Lab.
Tell me more about the B-Lab.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
OK.
So the B-Lab is this business,this approach to business that
we've been working on for awhile and we have it's been a
labor of love that we've beenworking on for a while and we
have it's been a labor of love.
Okay, but what it's morphinginto is basically this engine
that combines AI and human touch, meaning my lens right, my lens
of corporate America,entrepreneurship, authenticity,
(35:05):
my kind of personality.
So you take, right now, we havesix different personas, like
six different entrepreneurialjourneys that people would
probably go through.
One is someone who hasn't evengotten the balls yet to start.
One is someone who's justgetting started and they're like
there's all these silos, it's abig, wide world, how do I do it
(35:27):
?
There's one, the person whostarted, and their bottleneck
somewhere Revenue is not rollingin, something feels off.
I won't bore you with all ofthem, but it goes all the way
through to someone who'scrushing it and ready to scale
is to sort of be this enginethat can take whatever their
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scenario is, by assessing notonly a comprehensive set of data
around their business where itis current state and what their
goals are but personality test.
Who are you?
What makes you tick?
When were you born?
So what's your sign?
Right?
And then, from a mindsetperspective, there's like a
whole set of data.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
So you, you put all of this stuff through this
engine and then, based on whatwe find and what your goals are,
we create strategies around howto help you through whatever
you're going through.
And then the idea is for thisto be like a repository.
As we build, like, let's say,siraj the entrepreneur comes
through and let's say you're atthe bottleneck phase, we gather
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all of your data we have basedon how you want to engage, we,
we do all the inputs, we createyour strategy around whatever
your pain points are, and you'relike, well, shit, this really
worked.
And then you become sort ofpart of the maintenance
community, like a subscription.
But then we can take your casestudy and make it anonymous.
It doesn't have to be, it'sShiraj's pawn shop or whatever
(36:53):
the fuck it is.
It's.
Here's a case study of anentrepreneur who was
bottlenecked right, so that wehave that also in the data
collect, so the next person whocomes through in a similar
circumstance you can kind oflook at the other sets of data
and get really smart around howyou're providing value and
(37:13):
strategy.
I mean it's, it's a very modernum, I think really cool fucking
way to help people start abusiness and follow through.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
And how did you come up with the idea?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Oh honey, this has been a when I say a birthing
process.
So anyone who's ever builtsomething from nothing, they
understand what I'm talkingabout.
The last, I would say, year hasbeen an absolute torture
chamber in my brain.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And when I say torture chamber, it's like
there's moments of sheerexcitement and oh my God, fuck,
yes.
And there's moments of you'refucking nuts.
And then there's moments oflike, fuck it all.
Like we don't have time.
I mean, it has been a spin.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I mean and that could be in all.
You can have all those thoughtsin one day.
Oh, yeah, for sure, yeah, andwe've all been there.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
but I knew, but I've known the the seed right.
So go all the way back tobefore I started SOS right?
Um, I've always been someonewho sees something in someone.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
And I'm good at that.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I'm good at building teams, I'm good at seeing,
seeing potential in anotherperson, and just I have this
innate thing, and buildingbusinesses has always just sort
of been the thing.
So when I started with SOSthat's what it was it was I saw
something that was very notbuilt.
It was basically a name and acouple of people like stroking
(38:42):
checks for an hour workout, andit was a mess and I'm like I
like the name, I like her, I'mreally looking for something.
So that's basically whathappened.
But, then I was stuck insomething.
Right, it's like I loved it,but I always wanted more.
I'm like wait, I don't want tojust talk about fitness.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
So, as it turns out, I think I was meant to help
people who are in that littlesituation where they may never
get out of the mess to transcendinto a business.
I feel like that is my role.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Gotcha.
And so for me to it sounds sosimple now but you wouldn't have
been able to say that had younot gone through the experience
of SOS, right, no, no, and thatwas beautiful, and that's
credibility For sure.
Right Cause you can't, youcouldn't have like like if
someone was coming to the beelab correct and they're like oh
what have you done?
You're like, oh, I just I haveideas.
And then it's like, okay, well,correct, are you full of shit?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
this is.
This is really the pro.
It was like, oh my god, ofcourse, like that was so natural
to me and every element of itand the aspect of like taking
nothing into something, that wasthat significant and you know.
But it took me a good year anda half and we just are.
(39:58):
I mean, we are just now likethrottling on where it's at now
in terms of like, oh shit.
So now we've got all theobvious things with AI and all
this stuff that's informingthings, which is going to make
this really fun and veryefficient, but I don't want to
lose what makes it special,which is the human authentic
(40:18):
connection and that specialsauce right.
So the idea is to really morphthis together to create
something really, reallypowerful and very different than
anything else you're going tofind.
And I think we're there, likewe're.
We're not, it's not done, yeah,but we are like you're there
there.
Yeah, I mean, nothing's everreally it's really exciting,
(40:38):
right, yeah, but it's excitingyeah and who is the the?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
I, like you, have different, six different
personas right of people thatyou want to work with.
But like when you talk aboutseeing and believing in people
which I agree with as a skillset of yours or in a talent,
when you, when you're up at twoin the morning and you're
thinking about, like I want theb lab to serve this individual,
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like who's's that, who's thatindividual?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
So it is those six different people at this point.
So so I will tell you wealready have what's.
What's been exciting is we have, like the demand is there Okay?
So just from the very organicreach outs, I've started with
these 15 minute calls where Ijust truly want, I'm curious
about what?
People are doing Well nextthing, you know, that's
(41:32):
basically a lead magnet, right?
And I was like oh well, shitlike we're doing this thing, and
so now people have been sointerested and they've been.
I have clients, right.
So what?
It's not one specific, it it'sI want to serve the person who
is in that point in theentrepreneurial journey where
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they need to take a step forward.
So there's more than one ofthose yep, you know, there's
someone who isn't ready yetbecause they need to like work
on their mindset right they havesome toxicity going on
internally and when they're withtheir inner circle that's like
keeping them from the startingline right right.
So you, you have stuff you needto work on that.
(42:15):
I love that.
I love that person for theobvious reasons.
That's more the sos like stuffI've dealt with forever.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
But then you have the person you want me to do a 60
minute high and tight class andheated, and like I remember my
first SOS class I was like inthe back corner, like you've got
to be kidding me.
I no way.
No, it's not happening.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Right.
So it's like that mental that'sa person who's blocked.
It's like the B lab.
Why the B lab?
There's so many.
When I was, when I was thinkingabout this branding, I'm like,
okay, what's the essence of this?
It's like, okay, build brandbadass, belong brave body, brain
.
There's B, there's so many,right?
(43:01):
So all of these six personas,they all start with a B.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
But it's less about one specific person and more
around where they actually areand how I can get them to that
next step.
So, for example, we have aclient starting next week and
she has a successful businesshere and she wants to scale it.
So exciting, Right.
Right, she's someone who okay,how do we help her organize her
current state?
Get rid of duplicity, trim thefat, really like, get real about
(43:32):
what she's got going on andthen say, okay, what's the
smartest way to replicate this,and with whom that?
I mean come?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
on.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
But then we have someone else who's also starting
next week.
Her name is Sarah and she'sjust starting her career and she
wants to start her personalbrand because I'm telling you,
the world has changed if wehaven't noticed.
And if you're not thinkingabout a personal brand, because
I'm telling you, the world haschanged if we haven't noticed.
And if you're not thinking abouta personal brand that you can
take with you and catapult outof whatever situation you're in,
(44:02):
you're not thinking.
So you know what we're doingwith her is exciting because
she's a blank canvas.
So another thing we do withpeople in her specific situation
we go back, we have this wholewhiteboard around like who are
you?
And the last girl that wentthrough this I'm actually doing
(44:24):
helping her build her brand, andshe's been on here a couple
times.
I've been showing her behindthe scenes.
Her name is Megan Goodman.
The process started with okay,let's get some, get some inspo
from you via like a shared album.
Well, she brings in like thisposter board and she's like a.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Her brand is like a Martha Stewart on steroids right
.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
She brings in this big cork board both sides
completely did an inspo boardtextiles notes quote.
It blew us away.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
So it kind of set the bar where it's like okay, when
you come in for that type ofengagement, we're trying to
build your personal brand.
I want you bringing mesomething that illustrates who
you are.
So if it, is a shared albumcool.
But if you want to get realcreative and I'm telling you
what we've built for this girlit's because we've gone so
deeply and so wide into who sheis and why the fuck she wants to
(45:12):
do it anyway right and you cansee it now just beautifully
being weaved through thisbusiness.
She's building everything fromthe name, the logo, the, the
touches, the, the storytelling.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
I mean it's so cool it feels like and I'm gonna, and
I'm going to make a broadstroke assumption here it's
tapping into, yes, thebusinesses that people want to
go create or build or scale.
And I don't know if this is apost-pandemic thing, if this is
(45:46):
a social media thing, but peoplewanting to lean more into their
authenticity, Like we can postwhatever we want to post on
Instagram.
But is that really who we are?
It feels like there's acollective dissonance that's
happening where it's like.
But now I get to choose who myfriends are.
(46:07):
I get to choose where I go towork.
I get to choose how I show up.
I get to choose because we haveso many different things to
choose from.
But in the paradox of choices,there's too many choices and you
don't know.
Then you get overwhelmed, likeme, and I am overthinking, and
the whiteboard gets overwhelmedwith ideas.
Is it's also people who are?
(46:32):
We all just need a little extraencouragement and dose of
vulnerability and authenticityto really go after what we want,
Because for someone to come inwith a fully designed double
cork board with all of thatmeans that was sitting within
her, in her heart, in her mind,on her soul for a long time.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yep I mean, and if it wasn't, then good for her and
she was able to but that meansthat like that is like sitting
within her what's cool about herscenario that I love so much is
that when we met for the firsttime on FaceTime, she was afraid
to even talk to me.
She's like I hope someday Ihave the nerve to sit down with
(47:18):
you and I'm like, well, let's dothat now.
We're going to move throughthat right, so I get her on a
FaceTime.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
When you say afraid, was she like the nerve to sit
down with you she?
Speaker 1 (47:27):
had been sitting.
So she's a child of analcoholic.
Her background was verytumultuous.
She has a lot to give.
It's like she was bubbling upand she didn't know how to do it
, or she wanted some help withit and so originally, when she
reached out to me, it was likemaybe I want to start a podcast.
She had a business during COVIDthat was successful and she
(47:48):
stopped doing it.
There was a lot of pieces there, but the biggest part of it was
her unfolding and becoming andthat's been her, her business.
On her, her business shaping upis super exciting, Everything
that we're doing and what she'sbringing to the world, but
watching her personal evolutionthrough this is everything.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
And it, and you're right, you hit it on the head.
It had been sitting with herfor a very long time.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
And.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
I'm just very honored and feel lucky that our paths
crossed and, it just so happens,my skillset and the timing
lends itself to being perfectfor what she was looking for.
It's just been so great and soto have those types of
situations where the dichotomy,I guess, is that they're so
(48:36):
highly customized and that weare going so deep into like it's
never been more important toreally own who you are and
capitalize on that as asuperpower.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
But then also being very aware and taking advantage
of the technology that is todayand beautifully placing those
things together.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Right, and I don't think people doing those things
in silos, I don't think a lot ofpeople know how to do doing
them together, especially withthe pace in which technology and
AI is evolving, is going to bereally hard for people to wrap
their arms and minds around.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
So they can come to be lab.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, they can come to B-Lab, that's right.
So the second question thatwe're supposed to ask is, after
we ask you, what you'reenergetic and passionate about
is how can I help?
So, carrie, how can I help?
Speaker 1 (49:23):
You're the town, crier.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
That's true.
Cry baby.
Yeah, that's true.
You know, like that's how I amwhen I believe in something and
somebody brings me something andI'm like I feel this yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
Like that's how I am when I believe in something and
somebody brings me something andI'm like, I feel this yeah.
I want to go tell whenever it'srelevant.
Hey, have you heard of thisthing?
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
So that's it.
I mean just keep being who youare.
In my life, You're always avalue add.
I love what we have.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
I want to be more involved with RTRX.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
I'm waiting for my invite Done.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
I will do whatever the fuck I need to do great
fucking juggle juggle, firewhatever but just you know the
fact that you're interested.
You're asking the question nowyou understand more.
So when you're out in thestreet and you hear something
that could maybe be a whisper ofhey, this might actually be a
fit for you great done you knowand then how I can help find you
(50:11):
a wife.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
My mother and father and, uh, my many aunts and
uncles will be.
You know, it's, it's, it'sfunny.
I'm the um, let's see here.
So I'm the youngest, I thinkI'm the youngest grandchild on
my mom's side.
My mom is one of nine.
She is the youngest child andso, like everyone's like great
you know, child.
And so like everyone's likegreat you know, and I'm the baby
(50:33):
.
And then on my dad's side, mylate grandfather was the eldest
of nine brothers and sisters.
My father is the eldest of 20,some first cousins that all grew
up, you know, like siblingsbecause, of family houses and
family compounds.
And then I'm I think I'm theeldest boy, um, I'm definitely
(50:54):
the eldest here in central Ohioof all of us are here in central
Ohio and and so there's a lotof um, there's a lot of.
They always ask.
My great aunts and unclesalways ask, and so, um.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
I may have to marry you, yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Well, there's that too.
Um, no, but it's, it's funny.
Yeah, my uh, uh.
I can be a little bit of a ajerk.
I'm not.
I can be a little bit of anasshole when, like my great
uncle, but I call any good news,I'm like life's good, I'm good,
I'm making money, I'm savingsome of it.
You know I'm working a lot andhe was like that's not what I'm
asking.
(51:28):
I'm no.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
I can marry you for sure.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
That's yeah it's, I have to be open to it, right,
and this time last year I wasn'topen to it for a variety of
reasons.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Well, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
We'll see what happens, but we'll see.
We'll put it into the ethersand see what's out there.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Well, thank you for stopping by.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
I know I'm like hey you're probably like oh gosh,
what does he want?
Speaker 1 (51:51):
No, I know I'm like there's my boy.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
Well, now, it's always fun, like we should think
about how we like we do it inthe spring leading up to it, but
then we obviously for our TRX,but then in other ways too.
It's because, like, there's somuch going on in our world and
there's so much going on in ourcommunity.
Yeah, um, you know, if, ifthere's like one thing too of
like we live in reallyinteresting times and I by no
means um have a bully pulpit,but I'm going to take a bully
pulpit and be like we just gottabe like a lot kinder to people
(52:21):
and more open and curious andwilling to talk, to define one
our brand as a global community.
But like, just like being kindand being willing to know that
most people are generally doingthe best they can and we're all
(52:44):
moving so fricking fast and Idon't know like you've got the
love here and in the restroom.
It was like love is always theanswer and I've been thinking
about that a lot, right Of like.
Just, you know there's a um,there's a there's in the in the
(53:05):
Sikh faith Um, when we were inIndia, we went to the golden
temple which is um in Amritsarin Punjab, and it's been on my
list forever to go to it, andthe main temple is made out of
gold, and it is probably one ofthe most surreal moments of my
life, and it's it.
(53:27):
The religion is adjacent toHinduism, but there's a.
You know there's a, there's a,a scripture that you know that
says like you, like your, your,your boat is still at sea and
you never know what will happen.
And so you cannot look down onpeople, you cannot um, because
(53:49):
you never know what will happen.
You cannot um be only proud ofyour body, because at some point
you will have to shed your bodythe way a skin or a snake sheds
its skin.
We in the Hindu faith believein cremation, so we don't embalm
the body, we send the soul offto its next life.
And I play that every morningbecause I have to remind myself
that my every morning, because Ihave to remind myself that my,
(54:12):
uh, my boat is still at sea andum, not to get too philosophical
and deep, but it's also reallyinteresting, like the, the, the
similarities in religion andfaith, because JFK used to have
a plaque on his desk that saidyou know I'm going to butcher it
, but it was about my, my boat,my, my ship is at sea and the
(54:36):
sea is vast, but my God is goodand my God will guide me to it
and, like you know, the thecomparisons to our, our ships
and our boats, whatever you'reon is still at sea.
Um, and I don't know, it's justlike the more and more you sit
and we were just like rushingand I'm the worst at it.
Right, it's like I am movingway too fast sometimes and
(54:56):
overpacked and overscheduled,and have a list of all the
people I need to text and followup with and call and I think we
just need to slow down a littlebit.
And you know the irony in mesaying that is self-reflective
so yeah, it is, but it's just areminder that we're all doing
the best we can.
We're all you know, people,human, imperfect, with,
(55:21):
hopefully, lots of love to giveand lots of love to receive.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
I'm excited to get this show on the road.
Let's get this show edited andclipped up and get this guy
married.
All right, Siraj, I love you.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
All right, love you too, thank you.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
And if you're still out there following your girl,
follow me on YouTube, spotify,apple or wherever you get your
podcasts.
And until next time, go to RTRXevery single year.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Say hi to Siraj, you'll be there, you'll see me
and keep moving baby All righty.
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Speaker 2 (01:23):
Thank you To the Keri Croft Show.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Is it possible you're looking even more dapper and
handsome than?
You were last time, I don'tknow I'm trying to figure it out
.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You're too kind.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
No, it's true.
Look at your pants.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Thank you.
Everything's real, tailored andfit, and you look fit, you look
snatched, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
What's going on with the snatching?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It's either the medicine I'm taking or, like
I've been, on a functionalhealth kick.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Really.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And so Marguerite Weston at Donaldson's been my
doctor for the last seven monthsand we've been working through
like my cortisol and all of thatstuff, and so maybe some of the
stuff's working.
I don't know.
I'm seeing her later this week.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
What kind of medicine are you on?
Please tell me, it's not aGLP-1.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
No, no it's not, no, it's like I feel like I joked
with her.
I feel like a pharmacy everySunday afternoon when I have got
my daily pill boxes in mymorning and evening.
But it's really just stuff tohelp with my cortisol and sleep,
and so it's all like naturalsupplements which has been
really interesting, and so it'swhat she gave you it's what
(02:28):
she's, yeah, she's given me,yeah so what was the biggest
thing that you took away fromyour like assessment with her?
you know, I sat next to her atdinner last year, this time last
year at RTRX and I, after shehad presented on functional
health, and I said to her I saidI bet I have high cortisol.
(02:50):
And she just laughed and she'slike no, you do, we don't.
I don't have to test, I cantell, I just know, just based on
the way you live your life andthe things you've said.
And so we um, we did, we did acouple rounds of the blood tests
and the saliva tests and we'lldo another round later this fall
.
(03:10):
And what I appreciate is likehere's information about your
body, here's where you should be, here's what we're going to do
to get you there, what we aregoing to do.
She would put a big emphasis onthe we.
It was like what she, as mydoctor, is going to prescribe me
(03:31):
and coach me through.
And then she would say theother part of the we is you and
it's the accountability you haveto have of your diet and your
sleep and your working out anddrinking water and you, you know
, no phone an hour before bedand if you are how's that
working out?
um, I turn the tv off an hourbefore I go to bed and I turn
(03:52):
music on if I am on my phone orlaptop.
I have put on like I've gotblue light glasses to help with
that.
Um, I don't bring my computerto bed.
I haven't done that in years,like that's I do that all the
time that's one boundary.
I'm not the best at boundaries,but that's one boundary but
isn't the computer in the bedthe best?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
like why is that a boundary?
Like, can't we just get and getcozy and work?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
but like, at like 10 pm, yeah, I need to, I need to
like, yeah, yeah, yeah so haveyou see if you slowed down at
all?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
no, okay, are you still single?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I still am single.
You know it's funny, it's sofunny you say that.
So last time I was on, wetalked about the fact that I was
single and the Columbusbachelor and my parents, who
they're on Instagram but they'rereally not, they just like you
know they just whatever.
And you know, the last time wewere here, we talked about a, a
(04:47):
pretty open post I made onmental health and I had to give
my parents a heads up, just sayyou know like this is going on
in public, don't worry.
And of course my parents.
I talked about that.
But then my mom was like wellthat that miss carrie lady,
she's going to like set you upwith people.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
She makes me sound so classy.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And and you are classy and um, and I was like
mom, that was a joke.
And my mom was like, ah, Idon't think it was a joke.
Why is it a joke?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And it's not a joke.
You just said no, yeah, I didsay no, I did say no.
So you know and I know, andeveryone who knows me knows, I
love a good like hooking up withpeople.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I love a good like hooking up with people.
Yeah, you know, I think Ishould be open to it.
Is is is what my therapist,stacey, would say.
Stacey would say, probablyseeing her next week.
She'd be proud of me for sayingthat, because I'll tell her all
the time.
You know, I'm ready to be openand thinking about a partner in
life.
(05:43):
And she'll say, ok, let's lookat the past two weeks.
Of'll say, okay, let's look atthe past two weeks of your
schedule and let's look at thenext two weeks of your schedule.
And I just have a busy scheduleand some of that is
self-inflicted, some of that isjust the demands of my job and
my civic life.
And then I've recognized, okay,I gotta make time for it but do
you?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
do you think some of it is that you are making
yourself so busy because it'sjust you and like it's better
than sitting there thinkingabout oh, totally you know.
So I think, if you found theright person, wouldn't it kind
of just naturally, kind of fitinto the grooves, or do you
think you'd be the kind ofperson that you'd have a hard
time?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
No, I think it would fit into the grooves right,
Because then I wouldn't have to.
If someone says tonight, hey,do you want to go to dinner?
And I'll be working all daybecause we're in busy season,
Someone says, hey, like a 730dinner, I'm like sure, why not
Like it just gets me out of theoffice.
But if I have a partner who'sgot her own life and the things
that she's accomplishing andthings that we're doing together
(06:41):
, then I don't necessarily haveto do that.
So there is some flexibility.
That's enjoyable.
But because I'm going home tomy apartment in the short north
and probably just going to eatand work more, why wouldn't you
just go out for a random dinnerwith a friend or a coworker?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So let's talk about what's on your like.
If you wrote out an executivesummary on your Kate, hit the
record button.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Oh, we're not recording.
We haven't been recording.
Oh no, we're recording.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I'm talking about B-roll.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
All right.
So if you were going to writean executive summary on what
you're looking for, in a womanand I want it to go from the
superficial.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Because we all have superficial things right yeah.
You're not six four.
You may not want a six footwoman.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, maybe you do.
I mean, listen, if my kids have, if my future kids are going to
have any chance of beingathletic, so maybe you do want a
tall woman.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I'm not going to assume.
All I'm going to say is let'sstart from just superficial high
level sure and let's dig intothe deeper.
I mean, does she have to be ofindian descent, like what's
happening here?
Yeah, um.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So if we start with superficial, I mean, I'm not
like um, I don't sit here andsay like, oh, um, I have to be
the taller one.
I'm five, five, five, like sixon a good hair day, right and I
add some volume to the hair andso, like I'm not one to say like
, oh, I have to be taller, um,that doesn't bother me, right?
(08:12):
And so there's that element.
Um, I'm attracted to a lot ofdifferent types of people, and
so the superficial side, I Imean, I don't know, it's like
tough for me, especially whenwe're being record.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I'm being recorded oh , here we go, we're all real
careful.
Am I the only one that's reallynot careful?
No, no, no, no, no.
I know, I know let's skip on,but culturally, do we want to
align there?
Is that important?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
No, it's so funny.
I think I was probably seven oreight years old when I told my
parents who were in arrangedmarriage that I was not going to
get an arranged marriage, andit's mainly because I saw it
happen in Bollywood and onmovies and things like that.
For me, it's less about thecultural alignment of being in
the same culture and it's moreabout the value alignment, and
(08:53):
so is it.
Someone who values community,respects, believes that family
is a big and important part oflife.
It is to me, you know, in theIndian culture and the Hindu
faith, respecting our elders isa really big I don't always
agree with them, but it's areally big portion of our life
(09:14):
and how we live our life, and some it's more values-based than
it is the same culture.
I was raised, yes, in a Hinduhousehold.
There are things that I do froma faith standpoint that I do
because I have to do it.
I also have grown in my ownspirituality into someone who
(09:34):
shares in that, but it doesn'thave to be the same.
I spend a lot of time actuallylike studying religion and
reading about differentreligions.
One of the nerdiest things aboutme is that one of the things I
obsess about the most and I'mnot Catholic is the Roman Curia,
and like conclave and theprocess of selecting a new Pope,
(09:55):
and like the politicaloperational apparatus behind the
Roman Catholic Church.
And people are like why?
And I was like I've always justbeen enamored with it.
Really, it was after Pope JohnPaul II passed away.
I just was watching the newsone day and was just fascinated
by it, and so faith to me isimportant, but it's more about
(10:19):
spirituality than a specificreligion.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Hobbies and lifestyle .
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Hobbies and lifestyle .
I like to be active, whetherI'm on my bike, whether I'm at
you know a workout studio herein Columbus, whether it's a walk
through the short north or ahike, so I enjoy being active
and someone to be active with.
Lifestyle.
Work is busy.
A lot of my work is civicrelated and dinners and events
(10:45):
and things like that.
People are surprised when Itell them I'm a natural
introvert.
I'm an only child grew up in asouth asian household.
My parents worked a lot, so Iread a lot and and you know,
entertained myself.
But I know when I have to putthe tuxedo on and and work a
room and so someone who enjoysdoing that but like also
(11:06):
recognizes that it doesn't wedon't always have to, but a lot
of my work is that and smallgroup dinners and things like
that, so just someone who's opento that being a part of life,
versus like going home after anine-to-five right.
There's just a lot of my like Isaid, a lot of dinners and
events and things like that youwant kids.
(11:26):
I do want kids.
I love being an uncle to mynieces and nephews and it is
truly one of the biggest joys ofmy life.
I've got a bunch of nieces andnephews in India and in Florida
and then here from work, we havea core group of us and there's
(11:49):
six or seven or eight kids atthis point, and so I'm a very
proud Uncle Sonny to all ofthose kids and love them dearly
and can't wait to be a dad.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
OK, well, here's what we're going to do.
Here's that we're going to deal.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
We're not going to scare people away with all this
roman empire stuff well, yeah,like that's like I'm kidding,
you know, but like you know,people have a, you know we all
nerd out.
There's a lid for every pot,yeah and I nerd out on a lot of
stuff which you're gonna findsomeone who wants to nerd out
with you or who's like great Idon't care about that right go
um, get fascinated by um theconclave, or some article in the
(12:26):
New York Times, or shining yourdress, shoes, like you know,
like I'm going to let him havehis hobbies over here, Right,
and and then you know also, like, listen, like at the end of the
day, like, is it someone thathas a similar value, someone
that I want to be her number onecheerleader and my hope is that
she's going to be my number onecheerleader, and my hope is
that she's going to be my numberone cheerleader and just as
(12:46):
ambitious but ambitious in ourown right of our own things and
a true kick ass partner.
Who, who doesn't mind thespectrum of going from Wendy's
to Lindy's like I can do it alland someone to just laugh with
and build with.
Um is is what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's a tall order uh, so social clips and sound bites
incoming into the universe forsiraj yeah we're just gonna
low-key this, we're not gonnamake it a big thing?
yeah, we're just gonna you know,ask and you shall receive
sometimes and the way that wedid this with sir anthony was
kind of the same way, where it'slike okay, if this sounds
interesting to you, and I'mgoing to give you my disclaimer
for everyone at home.
(13:27):
Because the first thing thathappens if somebody feels like
maybe there's potential or likethis kind of gets them rumbling
in their belly a little bit.
The first thing is like fear.
Oh my God, like what if I get?
How I could never put myselfout there?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
So I will let you know that if you do reach out to
me on DM or email, it iscomplete safe space.
I would never say your name.
I would never expose you in anyway, shape or form without your
consent.
So if you are interested inpotentially dating this sexy,
savage, handsome guy, You're sokind, you are, look at you.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I mean talk about the full package here.
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
So if anyone's interested at least maybe having
a coffee or something with thislovely young chap, dm me, and
we'll make it very classy andlow-key and no one's gots to
know.
And then you know, we'll seewhat happens.
We'll roll with it.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, you know, I think've worked a lot in therapy
about like putting myself outthere.
I spent I've been with Staceyfor probably five and a half
years now and we love Stacey andshe's pushed me in ways that
I've had to really grow andallow myself to be pushed and
(14:46):
there's a lot that we're workingon and so, um, and in the age
of like dating apps and Tik TOKand social media, it's just like
listen, it's like we're alljust trying our best here, Right
, and like we're all imperfectand find someone to be imperfect
with.
Yeah Well, we'll see what we cando here, so you know I just
love a little matchmaking.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I'm so glad you're open to this now.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, I'm much more open to it.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Good yeah, all right, moving right along RTRX 2025.
Yeah, so what's popping off?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
You know it's um, I say this every year it's going
to be our best year, and I don'tsay that just because I have to
, but we um.
This year's narrative is aroundpossibility and the belief that
, in order to think about what'spossible, you also have to see
what's impossible and go andfind and hear from people about
(15:29):
what could be.
And so we're going to open upRTRX on Wednesday morning, with
a welcome party on Tuesday, butWednesday morning with a woman
named Sharon McMahon, who'sAmerica's government teacher,
and she's going to talk aboutthe possibility of civic
discourse and civility, and shestarted her claim to fame during
the pandemic in basicallygetting on Instagram live and
(15:53):
educating people about, like,let's revert back to, like, high
school government class, and ifyou think you're upset with
your mayor, you're really.
You know, the thing that you'reupset about, or the thing that
you want to learn more about, isactually handled by Congress or
the state legislature or thegovernor or the city council or
what have you.
And so giving citizens a betterunderstanding, a simple way to
(16:15):
understand what's going on inthe world, how they can then
respond to it and go make animpact in it, and then what's
possible if we think aboutcivility and it feels like every
year we're getting more andmore uncivil with each other and
less and less conversationslike this and less and less
(16:35):
tables and more and moreblockades between people.
And so Sharon will be amazing.
John Hope Bryant is the founderand chairman and CEO of
Operation Hope.
He will leave the room in tearsbecause he will talk about what
economic prosperity, what thatmeans for a family and what that
(16:57):
means for communities, and howwe help more families get to
economic prosperity and live alife that is meaningful for them
.
And then Angus Fletcher isprobably one of the most
underrated, under the radarprofessors, academics at Ohio
(17:17):
State, and he leads the study ofand science of, storytelling
and of probability versuspossibility.
And he's got a book coming outa couple of weeks after Archer X
.
Everyone's going to be gettinga book mail to them.
And then how literature plays arole in our day to day lives.
(17:38):
And he's worked with Hollywoodveterans, the US Army and when
people like Malcolm Gladwell andBrene Brown, their commentary
on Angus's work is breathtakingand mind-blowing.
And I didn't know I needed this, but now I don't know what I
would do without it.
That's where it tells you okay,we've got something special on
(18:02):
our hands.
And then on Thursday, our secondkeynote speaker, a wonderful,
brilliant woman, laverne Council, former executive and CIO at
Johnson Johnson.
She was the only innovation.
She was an innovation officer,cabinet level innovation officer
(18:25):
, department of Veterans Affairs, and she led a multi-billion
dollar innovation apparatuswithin the US government.
And so one she's got an amazingpersonal story that I won't
steal her thunder but will shockpeople, just like where her
life led her.
And then she's got an amazingcivic and corporate background
(18:49):
and then bringing that togetherfor an audience to then share
how you look at innovation andchange and how you can do it for
yourself in the government andthen in the private sector,
government and then in theprivate sector.
And then Friday morning we willhave a very special fireside
(19:10):
chat very rare with Jimmy andDee Haslam, the owners of the
Cleveland Browns, and the crew,talking about possibility when a
family is focused on impact andon community and what that
means for across theirbusinesses and across from their
(19:33):
previous business life to theircurrent businesses, to
community, to politics and howthey've engaged.
Jimmy and Dee do not do it'svery rare that they do a sit
down conversation like this andwe'll actually do it in the
Huntington Club of lowercom,which will be really amazing,
with the field and the stadiumas our backdrop.
And so those are our keynotes,and then our masterclasses will
(19:56):
go everything from sound bathsto silent disco, to executive
coaching and mindfulnessmeditation, to the power of AI,
to the possibility around.
There's an entrepreneur, george,who has taken prescription
(20:19):
drugs that you and I would throwaway or no longer need, and
then created a platform to thencollect all of those drugs and
then provide those toindividuals in our country who
can't afford the drugs.
So, instead of wasting thedrugs, putting the drugs into
our water system right orgetting rid of them or throwing
them away, then how do you thentake those drugs that are just
(20:41):
going to sit on shelves eitherat our homes or in businesses
and use them for good and how?
He's completely, and it's apolitical issue because it
involves medication.
It's a logistical issue becauseit's about shipping drugs
across and prescriptions acrossstate lines, and then it's a
social impact issue of how youthen can make an impact in
(21:02):
someone's life.
Um, functional medicine.
With Dr Weston and Donaldson,health will be back.
This time It'll be about like,okay, how do you actually?
You get a blood report, or youget a lab report.
You read it.
Then what do you do?
So how do you go through that?
And then, if everyone remembers, like when we were in
elementary school and you had todo like the president's test,
(21:25):
physical fitness test orwhatever we had to like stretch
on the box and run laps we'regoing to have some different
stations of functional health tothen gauge one's abilities and
then what you can then do fromthere.
So it'll be a lot of fun.
Action packed Action, packed inthree days and, like the whole
idea, right is always changingthe way businesses and
(21:46):
individuals convene.
And where else can you go andhear from luminaries and thought
leaders in business and inpolitics and in innovation and
leadership?
But then also focus on yourselfand this belief that we have of
priming optimists for action.
So the world's a better placeif we're optimistic about it,
but the world's an even betterplace if we go take action.
(22:07):
And so then how do we then giveyou know, our attendees and our
community, the tools to go takeaction?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I feel like 2026 vibes is going to be a live
kerry croft show I love thatsomewhere somewhere in the mix,
totally like some kind of
Speaker 2 (22:23):
you know it's, it's so funny, as I was talking to my
team about that and I was likeit's, it's a podcast at a
conference or a conferenceexperience like ours.
It's like a fireside chat butthere's just a microphone in
front of people, and so theaudience then feels like they
got an inside look.
But I was like I was like youknow, in this final like five
weeks, my brain's all over theplace, and so so I said to my
(22:44):
team, I was like just so, I'mchecking myself on this, like I
love the idea, but like it'sliterally just a fireside chat
with microphones in front ofeverybody.
And my team was like yeah, andI'm like OK, sure, like, if that
gives people.
But I 100 percent like who isit that you've always wanted to
get onto the show, whetherlocally or, uh, and I would say
(23:04):
even nationally, and then let'suse our shared power and and
influence and do it together.
And then it's only, and thenthat individual's doing a live
podcast interview with you infront of a thousand people.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Couldn't we do like a musician?
Couldn't that be a different?
Like with?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
with a story that kind of resonate like 21 pilots
you know a story that's kind ofresonant like 21.
Pilots Sure.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You know someone who's local or like that, you
know it'd have to have the rightvibe and the right backdrop.
It kind of all was likethematically in line, but it
could be really cool.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
You know, the beauty of the Double Edge sort of
program with RTRX because weprogram through the lens of
leadership and innovation andwell-being is that can go in so
many places different, you cango in so many different ways.
The question is always is thisan individual or individuals
that will be able to share theirexperience and their specific
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line of work, their body of work, but then share it in a way
that can be applied to one'slife?
Because we've got folks acrossthe entire corporate ladder,
from first year analysts tochairman and CEO.
We've got folks from 30 plusstates.
We've got last year we had 350plus companies represented.
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And so then, how do you thentake like one nugget here and
one nugget here and apply thatto your life, and so that's the
beauty of it.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I want to be invited and I want to be involved.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yes, great, done and done.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I can really improve the atmosphere in a very
interesting way.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I that, I that I know you can do, so done.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I mean if things start to get a little crusty.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah and listen, we have big plans.
I mean like we're we're, whilewe are building out and running
out 2025, in the next fivehearts believe and will build
RTRX to become where people arelike, hey, are you going to be
in Aspen for Aspen Ideas orAustin for South by?
And you know you may not likego for the programming, you
(25:21):
might go for some of thespeakers, but you know that
you're going to run into reallycreative, compassionate,
committed, kick-ass people andbusinesses and cool shit's going
to happen.
We're going to run into reallycreative, compassionate,
committed, kick-ass people andbusinesses and cool shit's going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
We're going to build that.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And if that then is going to elevate the global
image of our community and thenour social impact element of
putting our profits into cancerresearch, with Pelotonia and
having folks ride and thengetting closer and closer to
ending cancer, then we knowwe've done something.
Then, getting closer and closerto ending cancer, then we know
we've done something and we'reworking really intently in
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parallel to what that is goingto be.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I mean, you're just, how old are you again?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I am 32.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I mean think about?
I mean people out therelistening to this.
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Oh, thank you, I'll tell you, Iam blessed beyond belief in so
many ways.
You know, my parents immigratedhere in the early 80s with a
little bit of money to make doand worked a lot, and my dad
(28:18):
worked two, two and a half jobs.
When I was growing up, my momworked full time and took care
of me and they, whether bychoice or not, they allowed me
to seek the things that reallymade me light up.
And so I, from a typical SouthAsian male perspective, I wasn't
really good at math or science,but I was a history and
(28:40):
government nerd and I was, youknow, in student government and
I always got good grades.
But I, um, I was involved inother things and my parents
supported that.
And then I got really lucky bypeople who invested in me, and
so one of my biggest mentors inlife, alex Fisher he's got a
(29:05):
former CEO of the partnership.
I met him when I was 20 yearsold at Ohio State.
I interned at the partnership.
My first job was with him atthe partnership.
I met him when I was 20 yearsold at Ohio state.
I interned at the partnership.
I my first job was with him atthe partnership and he had a
sign on his wall is that aturtle doesn't get on the fence
post by himself, and that means,like we all need each other.
And, um, there is a like I wouldbe.
I would not be alive, uh,without a lot of people and we
(29:28):
talked about that last year.
There's a lot of people.
Like you know, by the wordalive, I would not be alive
without Brenda Jordan and ahandful of other people.
I wouldn't be where I am todaywithout the village that has
been around me, and so everyonewants a village.
I'm not sure that everyone iswilling to be a villager and as
(29:50):
I've been, like just is in lifeand you sit and you watch and
it's like what does it mean tobe a villager?
And so, at 32, I get to do thework that I get to do and be of
service to my community and toother people and these causes
and my family and my friends,because of people that invested
in me and saw something in me.
So, one, they saw something inme.
Two, they saw something in meand doubled down on me when I
(30:12):
didn't see that Right, and sothen it's like okay, so you've
got to then be grateful for thatand, I think, find salvation
and inspiration in that.
But then we then got to like,go do that for other people and
then still continue to buildwhat we want to build other
people and then still continueto build what we want to build.
Um, and so I'm blessed beyondbelief, um, for that of the
(30:33):
people that have invested in me,taken a risk on me, said yes to
a crazy idea, uh that I've hadNot every crazy ideas panned out
, but, um, the people that have,uh, I'm very lucky to to, to
have been raised and continue tobe raised and invested in by an
amazing village.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I still think there may be a world in which I'm your
campaign manager.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Politics are interesting, right?
If you would have asked me youknow so, I'm 32, if you would
have asked me 16 years ago, Iwould have given you a
completely well mapped out planto run for Congress and Senate
and maybe even be president ofthe United States, and I would
tell people that and they'd belike, oh, that's cute.
And I'm like, oh, you thinkit's cute?
I'm serious, and what I found,what I loved at that moment in
(31:22):
time about politics, was to beof service.
And since I was 10, in additionto other things I nerd out
about, my favorite show is theWest Wing.
And the West Wing is a veryidealistic approach to what
(31:45):
governing the country could looklike.
And I've learned over the pastcall it, you know, 10 years
through my work of there ismultiple ways to be of service.
There's multiple ways to beinvolved in both politics and
policy, which are two differentthings, and right now it's
really messy, as we're seeing,and it's really tough to get
(32:07):
things done and it's tough tofind consensus and compromise.
I like the position I get towork in now around some of that
work, but never say never.
But the dream or the goal ofbeing purely in politics has
dwindled a bit, but I foundother ways to be of service and
(32:28):
to find vocation and opportunitythere.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
So entice somebody who's never been to RTRX or
they're on the fence.
Why spend my time there?
Kick it home for us.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
The way I look at it is, time and energy are our most
valuable assets and we are allso fragmented.
And so if you can go to oneexperience and over four days
and you can invest and grow inyour business and build your
brand as an individual.
In your business, you caninvest in yourself from the
(33:03):
content and leadershipdevelopment, you can have fun
and you can participate in asocial impact movement and you
can be a part of bending the arcof progress, you can do it all
in one experience, all in onetrip, all in one credential like
why not do that?
So why not, instead of doingall of those things four or five
(33:26):
things, different days,different, different weeks,
different registrations if youcould do it all in one and know
that you're going to leave abetter person and that you're
going to leave better foryourself, for your community,
for your business, for yourfamily, then what would stop you
from showing up?
Speaker 1 (33:47):
That's why they pay you the big bucks.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
We'll go with that.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Did you practice that ?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
No, I didn't Jesus.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Raj, my God.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Okay, now I want to turn the table.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Turn the mic, turn the table.
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
It's like we always have this conversation every
year and then we're like textingback and forth.
But how in the world is KeriCroft?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Oh gosh, what a loaded question.
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Things are really good over here.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
So I was at a conference over the weekend and,
instead of asking talking aboutthe weather or what do you do
for a living we're supposed toask two questions when you meet
somebody.
So I'm going to ask thosequestions to you.
One is what is, what issomething that you're working on
that you're most excited about,most passionate about right now
(34:35):
?
So I'll let you answer.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Well, Siraj, that's easy.
The B-Lab.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
The B-Lab.
Tell me more about the B-Lab.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
OK.
So the B-Lab is this business,this approach to business that
we've been working on for awhile and we have it's been a
labor of love that we've beenworking on for a while and we
have it's been a labor of love.
Okay, but what it's morphinginto is basically this engine
that combines AI and human touch, meaning my lens right, my lens
of corporate America,entrepreneurship, authenticity,
(35:05):
my kind of personality.
So you take, right now, we havesix different personas, like
six different entrepreneurialjourneys that people would
probably go through.
One is someone who hasn't evengotten the balls yet to start.
One is someone who's justgetting started and they're like
there's all these silos, it's abig, wide world, how do I do it
(35:27):
?
There's one, the person whostarted, and their bottleneck
somewhere Revenue is not rollingin, something feels off.
I won't bore you with all ofthem, but it goes all the way
through to someone who'scrushing it and ready to scale
is to sort of be this enginethat can take whatever their
(35:49):
scenario is, by assessing notonly a comprehensive set of data
around their business where itis current state and what their
goals are but personality test.
Who are you?
What makes you tick?
When were you born?
So what's your sign?
Right?
And then, from a mindsetperspective, there's like a
whole set of data.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
So you, you put all of this stuff through this
engine and then, based on whatwe find and what your goals are,
we create strategies around howto help you through whatever
you're going through.
And then the idea is for thisto be like a repository.
As we build, like, let's say,siraj the entrepreneur comes
through and let's say you're atthe bottleneck phase, we gather
(36:31):
all of your data we have basedon how you want to engage, we,
we do all the inputs, we createyour strategy around whatever
your pain points are, and you'relike, well, shit, this really
worked.
And then you become sort ofpart of the maintenance
community, like a subscription.
But then we can take your casestudy and make it anonymous.
It doesn't have to be, it'sShiraj's pawn shop or whatever
(36:53):
the fuck it is.
It's.
Here's a case study of anentrepreneur who was
bottlenecked right, so that wehave that also in the data
collect, so the next person whocomes through in a similar
circumstance you can kind oflook at the other sets of data
and get really smart around howyou're providing value and
(37:13):
strategy.
I mean it's, it's a very modernum, I think really cool fucking
way to help people start abusiness and follow through.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
And how did you come up with the idea?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Oh honey, this has been a when I say a birthing
process.
So anyone who's ever builtsomething from nothing, they
understand what I'm talkingabout.
The last, I would say, year hasbeen an absolute torture
chamber in my brain.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And when I say torture chamber, it's like
there's moments of sheerexcitement and oh my God, fuck,
yes.
And there's moments of you'refucking nuts.
And then there's moments oflike, fuck it all.
Like we don't have time.
I mean, it has been a spin.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I mean and that could be in all.
You can have all those thoughtsin one day.
Oh, yeah, for sure, yeah, andwe've all been there.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
but I knew, but I've known the the seed right.
So go all the way back tobefore I started SOS right?
Um, I've always been someonewho sees something in someone.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
And I'm good at that.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I'm good at building teams, I'm good at seeing,
seeing potential in anotherperson, and just I have this
innate thing, and buildingbusinesses has always just sort
of been the thing.
So when I started with SOSthat's what it was it was I saw
something that was very notbuilt.
It was basically a name and acouple of people like stroking
(38:42):
checks for an hour workout, andit was a mess and I'm like I
like the name, I like her, I'mreally looking for something.
So that's basically whathappened.
But, then I was stuck insomething.
Right, it's like I loved it,but I always wanted more.
I'm like wait, I don't want tojust talk about fitness.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
So, as it turns out, I think I was meant to help
people who are in that littlesituation where they may never
get out of the mess to transcendinto a business.
I feel like that is my role.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Gotcha.
And so for me to it sounds sosimple now but you wouldn't have
been able to say that had younot gone through the experience
of SOS, right, no, no, and thatwas beautiful, and that's
credibility For sure.
Right Cause you can't, youcouldn't have like like if
someone was coming to the beelab correct and they're like oh
what have you done?
You're like, oh, I just I haveideas.
And then it's like, okay, well,correct, are you full of shit?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
this is.
This is really the pro.
It was like, oh my god, ofcourse, like that was so natural
to me and every element of itand the aspect of like taking
nothing into something, that wasthat significant and you know.
But it took me a good year anda half and we just are.
(39:58):
I mean, we are just now likethrottling on where it's at now
in terms of like, oh shit.
So now we've got all theobvious things with AI and all
this stuff that's informingthings, which is going to make
this really fun and veryefficient, but I don't want to
lose what makes it special,which is the human authentic
(40:18):
connection and that specialsauce right.
So the idea is to really morphthis together to create
something really, reallypowerful and very different than
anything else you're going tofind.
And I think we're there, likewe're.
We're not, it's not done, yeah,but we are like you're there
there.
Yeah, I mean, nothing's everreally it's really exciting,
(40:38):
right, yeah, but it's excitingyeah and who is the the?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
I, like you, have different, six different
personas right of people thatyou want to work with.
But like when you talk aboutseeing and believing in people
which I agree with as a skillset of yours or in a talent,
when you, when you're up at twoin the morning and you're
thinking about, like I want theb lab to serve this individual,
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like who's's that, who's thatindividual?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
So it is those six different people at this point.
So so I will tell you wealready have what's.
What's been exciting is we have, like the demand is there Okay?
So just from the very organicreach outs, I've started with
these 15 minute calls where Ijust truly want, I'm curious
about what?
People are doing Well nextthing, you know, that's
(41:32):
basically a lead magnet, right?
And I was like oh well, shitlike we're doing this thing, and
so now people have been sointerested and they've been.
I have clients, right.
So what?
It's not one specific, it it'sI want to serve the person who
is in that point in theentrepreneurial journey where
(41:55):
they need to take a step forward.
So there's more than one ofthose yep, you know, there's
someone who isn't ready yetbecause they need to like work
on their mindset right they havesome toxicity going on
internally and when they're withtheir inner circle that's like
keeping them from the startingline right right.
So you, you have stuff you needto work on that.
(42:15):
I love that.
I love that person for theobvious reasons.
That's more the sos like stuffI've dealt with forever.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
But then you have the person you want me to do a 60
minute high and tight class andheated, and like I remember my
first SOS class I was like inthe back corner, like you've got
to be kidding me.
I no way.
No, it's not happening.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Right.
So it's like that mental that'sa person who's blocked.
It's like the B lab.
Why the B lab?
There's so many.
When I was, when I was thinkingabout this branding, I'm like,
okay, what's the essence of this?
It's like, okay, build brandbadass, belong brave body, brain
.
There's B, there's so many,right?
(43:01):
So all of these six personas,they all start with a B.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
But it's less about one specific person and more
around where they actually areand how I can get them to that
next step.
So, for example, we have aclient starting next week and
she has a successful businesshere and she wants to scale it.
So exciting, Right.
Right, she's someone who okay,how do we help her organize her
current state?
Get rid of duplicity, trim thefat, really like, get real about
(43:32):
what she's got going on andthen say, okay, what's the
smartest way to replicate this,and with whom that?
I mean come?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
on.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
But then we have someone else who's also starting
next week.
Her name is Sarah and she'sjust starting her career and she
wants to start her personalbrand because I'm telling you,
the world has changed if wehaven't noticed.
And if you're not thinkingabout a personal brand, because
I'm telling you, the world haschanged if we haven't noticed.
And if you're not thinking abouta personal brand that you can
take with you and catapult outof whatever situation you're in,
(44:02):
you're not thinking.
So you know what we're doingwith her is exciting because
she's a blank canvas.
So another thing we do withpeople in her specific situation
we go back, we have this wholewhiteboard around like who are
you?
And the last girl that wentthrough this I'm actually doing
(44:24):
helping her build her brand, andshe's been on here a couple
times.
I've been showing her behindthe scenes.
Her name is Megan Goodman.
The process started with okay,let's get some, get some inspo
from you via like a shared album.
Well, she brings in like thisposter board and she's like a.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Her brand is like a Martha Stewart on steroids right
.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
She brings in this big cork board both sides
completely did an inspo boardtextiles notes quote.
It blew us away.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
So it kind of set the bar where it's like okay, when
you come in for that type ofengagement, we're trying to
build your personal brand.
I want you bringing mesomething that illustrates who
you are.
So if it, is a shared albumcool.
But if you want to get realcreative and I'm telling you
what we've built for this girlit's because we've gone so
deeply and so wide into who sheis and why the fuck she wants to
(45:12):
do it anyway right and you cansee it now just beautifully
being weaved through thisbusiness.
She's building everything fromthe name, the logo, the, the
touches, the, the storytelling.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
I mean it's so cool it feels like and I'm gonna, and
I'm going to make a broadstroke assumption here it's
tapping into, yes, thebusinesses that people want to
go create or build or scale.
And I don't know if this is apost-pandemic thing, if this is
(45:46):
a social media thing, but peoplewanting to lean more into their
authenticity, Like we can postwhatever we want to post on
Instagram.
But is that really who we are?
It feels like there's acollective dissonance that's
happening where it's like.
But now I get to choose who myfriends are.
(46:07):
I get to choose where I go towork.
I get to choose how I show up.
I get to choose because we haveso many different things to
choose from.
But in the paradox of choices,there's too many choices and you
don't know.
Then you get overwhelmed, likeme, and I am overthinking, and
the whiteboard gets overwhelmedwith ideas.
Is it's also people who are?
(46:32):
We all just need a little extraencouragement and dose of
vulnerability and authenticityto really go after what we want,
Because for someone to come inwith a fully designed double
cork board with all of thatmeans that was sitting within
her, in her heart, in her mind,on her soul for a long time.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yep I mean, and if it wasn't, then good for her and
she was able to but that meansthat like that is like sitting
within her what's cool about herscenario that I love so much is
that when we met for the firsttime on FaceTime, she was afraid
to even talk to me.
She's like I hope someday Ihave the nerve to sit down with
(47:18):
you and I'm like, well, let's dothat now.
We're going to move throughthat right, so I get her on a
FaceTime.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
When you say afraid, was she like the nerve to sit
down with you she?
Speaker 1 (47:27):
had been sitting.
So she's a child of analcoholic.
Her background was verytumultuous.
She has a lot to give.
It's like she was bubbling upand she didn't know how to do it
, or she wanted some help withit and so originally, when she
reached out to me, it was likemaybe I want to start a podcast.
She had a business during COVIDthat was successful and she
(47:48):
stopped doing it.
There was a lot of pieces there, but the biggest part of it was
her unfolding and becoming andthat's been her, her business.
On her, her business shaping upis super exciting, Everything
that we're doing and what she'sbringing to the world, but
watching her personal evolutionthrough this is everything.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
And it, and you're right, you hit it on the head.
It had been sitting with herfor a very long time.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
And.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
I'm just very honored and feel lucky that our paths
crossed and, it just so happens,my skillset and the timing
lends itself to being perfectfor what she was looking for.
It's just been so great and soto have those types of
situations where the dichotomy,I guess, is that they're so
(48:36):
highly customized and that weare going so deep into like it's
never been more important toreally own who you are and
capitalize on that as asuperpower.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
But then also being very aware and taking advantage
of the technology that is todayand beautifully placing those
things together.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Right, and I don't think people doing those things
in silos, I don't think a lot ofpeople know how to do doing
them together, especially withthe pace in which technology and
AI is evolving, is going to bereally hard for people to wrap
their arms and minds around.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
So they can come to be lab.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, they can come to B-Lab, that's right.
So the second question thatwe're supposed to ask is, after
we ask you, what you'reenergetic and passionate about
is how can I help?
So, carrie, how can I help?
Speaker 1 (49:23):
You're the town, crier.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
That's true.
Cry baby.
Yeah, that's true.
You know, like that's how I amwhen I believe in something and
somebody brings me something andI'm like I feel this yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
Like that's how I am when I believe in something and
somebody brings me something andI'm like, I feel this yeah.
I want to go tell whenever it'srelevant.
Hey, have you heard of thisthing?
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
So that's it.
I mean just keep being who youare.
In my life, You're always avalue add.
I love what we have.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
I want to be more involved with RTRX.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
I'm waiting for my invite Done.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
I will do whatever the fuck I need to do great
fucking juggle juggle, firewhatever but just you know the
fact that you're interested.
You're asking the question nowyou understand more.
So when you're out in thestreet and you hear something
that could maybe be a whisper ofhey, this might actually be a
fit for you great done you knowand then how I can help find you
(50:11):
a wife.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
My mother and father and, uh, my many aunts and
uncles will be.
You know, it's, it's, it'sfunny.
I'm the um, let's see here.
So I'm the youngest, I thinkI'm the youngest grandchild on
my mom's side.
My mom is one of nine.
She is the youngest child andso, like everyone's like great
you know, child.
And so like everyone's likegreat you know, and I'm the baby
(50:33):
.
And then on my dad's side, mylate grandfather was the eldest
of nine brothers and sisters.
My father is the eldest of 20,some first cousins that all grew
up, you know, like siblingsbecause, of family houses and
family compounds.
And then I'm I think I'm theeldest boy, um, I'm definitely
(50:54):
the eldest here in central Ohioof all of us are here in central
Ohio and and so there's a lotof um, there's a lot of.
They always ask.
My great aunts and unclesalways ask, and so, um.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
I may have to marry you, yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Well, there's that too.
Um, no, but it's, it's funny.
Yeah, my uh, uh.
I can be a little bit of a ajerk.
I'm not.
I can be a little bit of anasshole when, like my great
uncle, but I call any good news,I'm like life's good, I'm good,
I'm making money, I'm savingsome of it.
You know I'm working a lot andhe was like that's not what I'm
asking.
(51:28):
I'm no.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
I can marry you for sure.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
That's yeah it's, I have to be open to it, right,
and this time last year I wasn'topen to it for a variety of
reasons.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Well, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
We'll see what happens, but we'll see.
We'll put it into the ethersand see what's out there.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
Well, thank you for stopping by.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
I know I'm like hey you're probably like oh gosh,
what does he want?
Speaker 1 (51:51):
No, I know I'm like there's my boy.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
Well, now, it's always fun, like we should think
about how we like we do it inthe spring leading up to it, but
then we obviously for our TRX,but then in other ways too.
It's because, like, there's somuch going on in our world and
there's so much going on in ourcommunity.
Yeah, um, you know, if, ifthere's like one thing too of
like we live in reallyinteresting times and I by no
means um have a bully pulpit,but I'm going to take a bully
pulpit and be like we just gottabe like a lot kinder to people
(52:21):
and more open and curious andwilling to talk, to define one
our brand as a global community.
But like, just like being kindand being willing to know that
most people are generally doingthe best they can and we're all
(52:44):
moving so fricking fast and Idon't know like you've got the
love here and in the restroom.
It was like love is always theanswer and I've been thinking
about that a lot, right Of like.
Just, you know there's a um,there's a there's in the in the
(53:05):
Sikh faith Um, when we were inIndia, we went to the golden
temple which is um in Amritsarin Punjab, and it's been on my
list forever to go to it, andthe main temple is made out of
gold, and it is probably one ofthe most surreal moments of my
life, and it's it.
(53:27):
The religion is adjacent toHinduism, but there's a.
You know there's a, there's a,a scripture that you know that
says like you, like your, your,your boat is still at sea and
you never know what will happen.
And so you cannot look down onpeople, you cannot um, because
(53:49):
you never know what will happen.
You cannot um be only proud ofyour body, because at some point
you will have to shed your bodythe way a skin or a snake sheds
its skin.
We in the Hindu faith believein cremation, so we don't embalm
the body, we send the soul offto its next life.
And I play that every morningbecause I have to remind myself
that my every morning, because Ihave to remind myself that my,
(54:12):
uh, my boat is still at sea andum, not to get too philosophical
and deep, but it's also reallyinteresting, like the, the, the
similarities in religion andfaith, because JFK used to have
a plaque on his desk that saidyou know I'm going to butcher it
, but it was about my, my boat,my, my ship is at sea and the
(54:36):
sea is vast, but my God is goodand my God will guide me to it
and, like you know, the thecomparisons to our, our ships
and our boats, whatever you'reon is still at sea.
Um, and I don't know, it's justlike the more and more you sit
and we were just like rushingand I'm the worst at it.
Right, it's like I am movingway too fast sometimes and
(54:56):
overpacked and overscheduled,and have a list of all the
people I need to text and followup with and call and I think we
just need to slow down a littlebit.
And you know the irony in mesaying that is self-reflective
so yeah, it is, but it's just areminder that we're all doing
the best we can.
We're all you know, people,human, imperfect, with,
(55:21):
hopefully, lots of love to giveand lots of love to receive.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
I'm excited to get this show on the road.
Let's get this show edited andclipped up and get this guy
married.
All right, Siraj, I love you.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
All right, love you too, thank you.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
And if you're still out there following your girl,
follow me on YouTube, spotify,apple or wherever you get your
podcasts.
And until next time, go to RTRXevery single year.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Say hi to Siraj, you'll be there, you'll see me
and keep moving baby All righty.
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