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June 23, 2025 75 mins
I find there are few things as intoxicating as someone who is really interested in you. You feel they care about you, they value you, and they are curious to hear about you. This is something you can define and do, if you understand the key components. So I have an expert on listening with us. But before I introduce them, one issue that stuck out to me was, the idea of becoming and being an expert listener, is to connect. But, I don’t want to connect with everyone. My goal is not to have everyone think I’m a great listener, because I don’t want to connect with everyone. I don’t think anyone does. I realize when I am trying to listen with endurance and tolerance when I don’t really want to, I’m actually hurting the relationship. You can hear more on this in the show. My expert guest is Emily Kasriel Emily is an award-winning journalist, editor, and media executive who worked for over 20 years at the BBC. She developed the Deep Listening approach during her time as a Senior Visiting Research Fellow at King’s College London’s Policy Institute, building on her expertise as an accredited executive coach and workplace mediator. Emily connected with me from her home in London and I feel we had a very real and sober discussion not only about how to be an expert listener, but to be authentic about when we want to listen, or not. The 8 steps we walk through on listening come from her new book, Deep Listening: Transform Your Relationships with Family, Friends, and Foes Sign up for your $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to start your free trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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