A.I. and Kindness

We cover a lot of ground. A.I., Grandpa Gorgie, hockey tournament, mustaches, Sydney Sweeney and of course, donuts.

Episode Transcript

(00:17):
Welcome to the KindnessChronicles, where we hope to
inject the world with a dose ofthe Minnesota nice that it
desperately needs.
It has been over a week or sosince we last got together.
KG, where are we calling you at?
Well, beautiful Minnetonka, uh,just finished my errands, just
got the target and the, uh, Itnever fails.

(00:38):
You go there for, let's just saythere were eight things on my
list, you leave with 16.
It's, uh, it's a great place,but man, it is tough, tough not
to overpurchase.
We also got the pride of JohnnyClueless.
Steve Brown with us here today.
Well, I mean, I mean, what isthere, five of you?
There's four.
There's four.
I am, yes, I'm the pride ofJohnny Clueless.
Yeah, you're the pride of JohnnyClueless.

(00:59):
Yeah, hi.
Hey, um It's been a while sincewe've been on.
Yeah.
And we've, there's been some bignews happening in our lives.
Um, most notably, GrandpaGorgie.
Yes! First time grandfather.
Young Leo, what's Leo's middlename?
Leo Kenneth Wheeler.

(01:20):
Oh, like Kenneth, like GrandpaKen?
Yeah, they named, uh, the middlename after my dad, which I
thought was a, uh That's cool.
Makes me want to almost cry.
Sweet thing to do.
That's very nice.
It was cool.
It's, it's been a bit of awhirlwind and because we haven't
been down to Florida yet, we'replanning on going a little over
a week.
Um, he's still in the ICU.
He was born about three and ahalf weeks early.

(01:43):
So he's a little guy.
Um, he just, he just plateauedthe six pound, uh, number.
And, uh, you know, so he'strending, things are going well.
He's at the, uh, Winnie Palmer.
Uh, spot in, uh, just outsideOrlando, which is awesome.
Yeah.
It's, it's all they do, um, andI appreciate the, uh, the shout
out.

(02:03):
The whole grandpa thing kind offreaks me out, but you know
what?
I've been feeling a little bitnostalgic and a little bit old
here recently, so let's justroll with it.
Well, congratulations.
We can't wait to meet the lad.
I'm sure he'll be, uh, playingwith wooden sticks before we
know it.
Because why wouldn't ya?
Why wouldn't ya?

(02:24):
Speaking of wooden sticks, I sawa clip today of you with, uh, it
was a Tom Hanneman circa 1985,1985 being interviewed.
You're on the other side of themic, a young Kevin Gorg, state
champion, Kevin Gorg, flowinghair.
Yeah.
Beautiful hair.

(02:45):
Less in the chin department.
A couple of less chins, um, youknow, it's funny because.
You know, that's been kind ofcircling around the day.
I've been getting a lot of griefand rightfully so I was freaking
out.
I was acting like a whack job onthat interview, but it does, um,
it hits my heartstrings a littlebit because of my friendship

(03:06):
with Tom Adam and lucky enoughto work with him for a little
over a decade at what was thenFox Sports North.
And I got to tell you, just asweetheart of a human being.
He died right after COVID like2021 one.
out of nowhere with a heartissue.
And, um, honest to God, one ofmy most favorite Uh, co workers

(03:29):
of all time.
Just that sweetheart of a humanbeing.
When we talked about it a lot,um, our friendship started in
85.
We just didn't know it.
That's funny.
Yeah, that was, that was prettycool.
That was a very young TomHanneman.
He had to have only been in his20s at the time.
Yeah, because when he died, hewas in his 60s.

(03:50):
Yeah.
That was five, almost five yearsago.
So you're right, he was rightout of college.
Yeah.
And, you know, he, he, He toldstories to us, um, when we'd be
at the ballpark or at the rankof working with Dave Moore when
he, when he broke into thebusiness and how intimidating
that was.
Remember, TV news back then wasa completely different animal.

(04:11):
Their ratings back then, I mean,they're still great, I'm sure,
but four or five channels, thatwas it, right?
I mean, In our house, that,that, Dave Moore was on every
single night at 6 and 10.
You, you could set your clock byit.
Along with Bud Crailing, thebald weatherman.
You ain't gonna get on, uh, TVwith that hair anymore.
Oh, wait a second.

(04:33):
Um, and then wasn't Rolf JohnFritz?
Wasn't that the early days of RIs that all CCO though?
That was CCO.
Yeah, that's all CCO, yeah.
Channel 4, baby.
Rolf John Fritz.
Yes.
Um, we are showing our age.
How've you been Steve?
I've been good.
You've been good?
Yeah.
Very nice.
Um, I, I haven't been, you know,quite the traveling person that

(04:54):
you've been, but uh, I've uh, Ican't remember.
Oh, I went to a concert onSunday night.
Okay.
At the new Uptown, uh, Theater.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, that place is great.
You saw the Teske brothers.
Oh, the testicle brothers.
Teske brothers.
I thought you said Teske.
The guy, I'll show you guys,I'll show you guys a video.
It's, they're an amazing band.

(05:15):
They're from Australia.
And the lead singer guy soundsexactly like Otis Redding.
These white Australian guys who,the other brother plays guitar.
It's a soul band.
But Sunday night, not what Iwanted to be doing.
But man, it was such anexperience.
And so.
You know, it's a testy, testy,testy.
Oh, testy.
Yeah.
I was going to say if they werethe testy brothers, you call

(05:36):
them the nut brother.
Okay.
Enough of that stupidity.
Yeah.
I, uh, yeah, I was out inCalifornia and, uh, you know,
there's a lot of beautifulpeople in California.
There really are.
And, uh, we were in Newport.
Uh, we were in San Diego.

(05:59):
The weather was not great, saywhat, not what's not great.
What is not great weather forCalifornia raining and 50
something.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I would look at the, did youcome home early because of the
weather?
Yeah, we'd had enough.
I said enough of this.
Yeah, I got sure it was 50 here.
A couple of those days.
I got to clean out my garage.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Fox news is on so muchearlier there, you know, it's

(06:19):
just, it's very brother.
Any who.
Um, just, uh, we were justupstairs, witnessing the
splashdown of the, uh, theSpaceX capsule.
And in this divided world, ifthat's not something that we can
all get excited about.
I mean, I had a safe landing.
Yeah, it was an amazing missionway too long, way longer than

(06:42):
they expected, but those peoplemade the best of it.
They were such, I saw themrecently on a interview.
They're still having a greattime doing their, doing their
experiments, doing all theirstuff up there.
And they stayed, what, they weresupposed to be through there for
nine days.
And they're there for ninemonths.
I wonder how long it'll bebefore that Sunny, the woman,
dyes her, um, roots back to theblack color that they're

(07:03):
supposed to be.
Because her hair had grown outso much.
Yeah.
It was actually funny.
Uh, Trump.
So wait, nine months?
Nine months.
Nine days?
Yes.
Do you not watch the news?
Kevin Gorg.
What?
Time out now.
Time out.
I don't.
I watch sports.
So time out here.
What about, and I know thatthey, you know, they can whip

(07:23):
together like MacGyver a fullmeal out of a little Cracker
Jack box, but how, how do theyhave enough supplies?
They do have enough supplies upthere.
Like the, the, uh, there wasanother, uh, ship, this was on
the International Space Station.
Yeah, it's a space station.
There was another ship that wentup there, and it was, uh, loaded
with, uh, provisions.

(07:43):
Yeah.
And there was only two people ina four seat vehicle.
And apparently they loaded it upwith all these different things
and Like double whoppers?
Double whoppers, yeah.
Yeah, all those kind of things.
Chicken fries from Burger King.
being sent up there, but In allsincerity, it was actually very
funny.
Um, Trump was referring to thewoman with the wild hair.

(08:08):
And, you know, that's, you knewimmediately who he was talking
about.
Could you put it in a ponytail?
Do something.
It probably feels great to haveyour hair just, you know, just
flow like that.
Yeah, just wide.
Yeah, I did notice that theroots had gone a little great,
but that's not very kind.
Yeah, weird of you to saysomething like that.
This woman's been stuck in spacewithout anything.

(08:29):
She's an American hero.
Yeah.
It's, it's the fact that theylanded safely.
It's amazing, uh, feat oftechnology that we can send
people up and do experiment, doall their stuff they gotta do
and figure out all their stuff.
And it's, you know, safelybringing them back home.
They're, they're getting outright now as we speak.
The, uh, the NASA person thatwas doing the play by play
referred to it as a splashdownin the Gulf of America.

(08:50):
They did?
Yeah.
She knows where her bread isbuttered.
We know what channel you're on.
What's the first thing you guyswould do when you got back after
being gone that long?
Culver's.
Yeah, it'd have to be some foodrelated stop for sure.
I'd go out for a steak, right?
I mean, there's nothing No, youcan't.
You can't.
You can't do anything for awhile.
Your muscles are Um, messed upbecause of gravity.

(09:13):
You come home and you cannotmove.
It's so strong.
Yeah.
The shape of your eyes,everything you have to, you have
to go through like medical re reevaluate or what do they call
it?
Re reassessory.
Yeah.
Re entry basically re entry.
You can't just go out and get asteak that night.
Well, it's going to be a while.
You probably have a situation ifyou did have a stage, but that's

(09:34):
not a good one either.
Yeah.
Um, the topic for today's show,I'd like to pivot to our topic.
Wow.
Get right to it.
Well, I, I, I find itfascinating.
I have been reluctant to leanin, as they say, to the whole
AI, like chat GPT experience.
Yeah.
Well, it makes me nervous.

(09:54):
Me too.
But I discovered it, and Iwanted to see what kind of
impact, uh, ChatGPT could haveon the topic of kindness.
And I was shocked at howspecific, you know, it's one
thing to Google how to You know,how to do kindness or what's the
role of kindness in the world,whatever, whatever.

(10:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But this like laid out somereally specific examples.
Oh, did you print them out?
No.
Let's use your voice.
Let's hear what you got overthere, Steve Brown.
So you gave, you sent us a list,a very wordy list, a very big
list.
It was, it was wordy.
And you basically, you saidsomething like, what ways can AI

(10:37):
influence kindness andcompassion in the world, right?
Yes.
You said something like that.
And I have a list of, uh, Isaid, I said, give me a brief,
uh, explanation.
Oh, so you use chat GPT?
Yes.
You do?
Yeah.
Like routinely?
Yes.
Okay.
I'm new to this.
It helps.
I was late to the internet.
It helps give clarity.
I was late to the Google.
I'm late to chat GPT.

(10:58):
It's quite, quite amazing.
I haven't used it at all.
Well, you don't even know what'sgoing on in the world unless
it's a hockey game.
I don't.
It's all about the wild rightnow.
Ignorance is bliss.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll get to that in a minutehere, the no more hockey stick
or wooden sticks for a moment.
Wooden sticks, there you go.
Well, I don't, I don't know ifit's exact kind of stuff that
you have, but what basicallyit's saying is, um, it can help

(11:19):
with mental health support.
AI powered chatbots and virtualtherapists provide emotional
support and, uh, and crisisintervention for those in need.
So, there's people that havetheir best friend is now a It's
a supportive person.
I know that's a weird, that'sweird, weird, super weird.
But if you could actually givesomeone some support, it's
amazing.
Uh, number two, inclusivecommunication.

(11:40):
AI driven language translationand accessibility, um, help
break down barriers for peoplewith disabilities and language,
so it can help with uh,language.
Yeah, what I find fascinatingabout it is, it, if you're
looking for advice as to how toconnect with somebody at work
that you just don't have, Youjust don't have that connection

(12:01):
with.
you can put in specific examplesand it will kick out some
information in a split second.
It's, it is as remarkable asknowing that the splashdown is
going to happen at 557 EasternTime.
I mean it's amazing how specificit gets.
Yeah.

(12:21):
Um, yeah, you, you have no idea.
You have to spend some time.
Just start, start asking stuffor start saying things, but you
can, you can give, you can doentire, marketing strategies.
You can give, you basically say,give me a strategy on, you know,
how to go about doing something.
Give me the pros and cons, thedrawbacks, the special tips and

(12:42):
it gives you an entire strategy.
I actually took a presentation.
Yeah, a final presentation.
I pulled it over.
It said with this presentationis better Give me a speech to go
with this presentation.
It gave me a slide by slidespeech.
It's it's quite.
Come on.
No, it's amazing You guys haveto look at it further but with
regards to kindness Yes, itfound all kinds of things that

(13:05):
tailored AI with kindness, andthat's what the list that you
sent us.
I gather another version of thatlist.
Yeah, I, I love the idea offacilitating connection.
AI can help connect peopleacross distances, enabling
communication betweenindividuals who may not
otherwise have had the chance tointeract.
This can come from, this canpromote kindness and cooperation

(13:25):
across cultural, uh,geographical boundaries, leading
to more inclusive and supportivecommunities.
And, you know, in the world thatwe live in.
I think that, um, we need to beespecially aware of, uh,
cultural idiosyncrasies,cultural, uh, specificity and,

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you know, making sure that, thatyou're, you have the best bet at
addressing something properly.
Yeah.
And I do think that AI has theopportunity to help us with
that.
Right.
You know, it's very, very, soKevin, you said that you're
afraid of it.
Well, I really am.
Uh, well, I mean, number one,well, you do watch a lot of

(14:09):
movies.
I saw iRobot with with WillSmith, and this could end really
poorly.
That was a long time ago.
Right, but those robots can takeover our existence, and they
could start to Exterminate us ifwe're not careful.
Like we gotta, I don't know.
I saw Terminator 2, that was along time ago.

(14:29):
Um, Yeah.
When you, when you, really allthis is doing John and, and KG,
this is what's happening.
They've inputted everything onthe internet online into
ChatGBT, so it's kind of acollection of all things and it
can spit out a very precise, um,expression of what you're asking
it calling all of the internet.

(14:51):
Well, let's use it for good.
Well, I'm just saying, insteadof Googling, you know, Hey,
where can I find the nearest icecream cone, or whatever.
You can Oh, that's a good idea.
Well, you can go in and say, youknow, I don't know.
Get more specific and more,like, it'll tailor it to you.
It'll give you information.
You know, give me the top fivebest ice cream cone shops in St.

(15:13):
Paul, or whatever.
It's very specific.
Grand old Creamery, there it is.
You know, we could call it ChatKG.
Well, my idea was to use AIwith, like, let's use Twitter or
X as the example and have theartificial intelligence extract

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videos every day from all overthe world of acts of kindness.
And the one that always startsthe conversation Is when you see
the, the two little toddlers,there's a little African
American boy and a little whiteboy running towards each each
other and they smile and theycome running at each other and
they give each other this huglike that.
I want that.

(15:56):
Like I want a kindness feedthrough artificial intelligence
where all day long I get towatch that.
And you guys talk about.
Oxytocin and all that goodstuff, that would be just like a
buffet.
Well, I think that the term thatwe use is oxytocin day.
Yeah.
And I'm sure that you exerciseoxytocin day.
I did this past Sunday and I'mmanipulating my algorithms.

(16:21):
Good.
I'm telling you.
That's the point, right?
I'm getting hammered.
With all of these great videosand clearly, I just need to
switch gears for just onesecond.
Okay, where are we going here?
I want to talk about donuts fora second.
This is a total pivot.
I'm good.
This is a great conversation.
Here's why.
Here's why.
So.
I get into my car this morning,and I have been getting donuts

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on Tuesdays, as I mentioned,from the Donut Hut.
Yeah.
Uh.
In Little Canada.
In Little Canada.
And I get in my car today, andmy little navigation thing comes
up on my phone, and it says, 14minutes to Donut Hut.
No way! Swear to God.
Your car, your car's tellingyou.
Swear to God.
No, the phone knows that I'mgoing to Donut Hut.
Yeah, your phone knows.
Oh my God, that's scary.

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My phone knows that I'm cominghere.
Isn't that nuts?
Yeah, well, it's because it seesyour patterns.
I guess it sees patterns.
Did you just say that?
Yeah, I think it sees patterns.
Well, here's what's reallyfunny.
It's another algorithm.
I get a text the minute I leavethe donut shop from one of our
listeners, Barb Peterson.
Hi, Barb.
Hi, Barb.

(17:24):
Hi, Barb.
She found, uh, there was a thingon the, uh, uh, what do you call
that?
A gif or a jif, what, what, howdo you say, what's that word?
I say gif.
Yeah, it's a gif.
Anyways, there was a thing thatshowed up on, uh, on her feed.
A meme meme, that's the word,it's a meme.
And it said, I feel like I'm ina good place.

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Not mentally, I'm just at thedonut shop.
And she sent me that, and like,I got in the car and I sent her
a picture of my box full ofdonuts.
And there was one less by thetime we got to work.
Oopsies.
That's a oopsies.
So that's what you were going tosay about the donut shop?
No, the donut shop, no, so Isaid to the woman, and maybe,

(18:07):
did I mention this?
I mentioned to the woman workingbehind the deal that, We've been
talking about the Donut Hut onour program, on our podcast.
And she said, oh my god, therewas a guy that was in here the
other day that said that heheard about the Donut, uh, Hut
and drove from Iowa to go to theDonut Hut in Little Canada.

(18:29):
Because of us?
I have no idea what otherpodcast is talking about it.
Isn't that nuts?
Yeah.
I just, you know what that is?
AI.
Somebody went to AI and said,give me a podcast that's
promoting donuts.
Yeah, that's specific.
That is specific.

(18:49):
And ours is the number one donutpromoting podcast, I think, in
the current day and age.
Number one in the world.
Yeah, we're in Iowa, especially.
Um, so you said that we had aweek off.
Let's talk about that for asecond.
We had a we had a little snafu,but you were you were traveling
and we talked about using a bestthing a best of And it didn't it
didn't work and you got somefeedback from some people.
Yeah Um, I got some feedbackactually my wife, uh ran into

(19:14):
another friend of ours formerguest randy backus and said
Yeah, so you guys take a weekoff And you don't post anything,
what's the deal?
Wow.
So.
Sorry Randy.
Sorry Randy.
We gotta have you and your brideback on.
But yeah.
You know, I'm happy that people.
It's good to hear.
Yeah, that people are missing usif we aren't here for a week.
We try to do it every week.
We try to do a couple.

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Then we can kinda.
I know.
Place them out.
We just.
We got behind a little bit.
But uh.
But it's good to hear thatpeople are listening.
We're busy guys.
We're busy people.
Right.
We got KG.
You know, it's hard just to nailhim down.
Yeah.
He's, you know.
Well, you've been traveling morethan me, which is rare, right?
Like the last.
Ever.
I mean, last month you've beengone a bunch, like every time I
turn around, you're somewhereelse.

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Beautiful.
Like you mentioned.
Like a long haul trucker.
I'm kind of like a trucker.
Remember that song, Convoy?
That's one of my all timefavorites.
Where are we going with this?
So that's kindness.
Yeah.
I want to ask KG about thehockey tournaments because you
mentioned it, and I, and Iwanted to say before you explain
anything, um, people thought itwas so great that he got to do,

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he was the color guy, right?
Yeah.
He, did you take Lou Nanny'sspot right now?
Are you kind of, are you the newguy?
Well, no, there was three of usthat, you know, because Lou
Nanny is such a legend, uh, he'sthe godfather.
We decided that not one personis going to be put in that spot
because you have no chance.
That's fair.
And so we had.
Ben Clymer, Mark Parrish, andmyself kind of rotate through

(20:41):
the entire, you know, becausethey play Wednesday through
Saturday, there's a bunch ofgames.
And so we all did four or fivegames in the booth.
We had a ball.
It's a great crew.
Um, Pat O'Connor is the leadproduction guy.
He used to work with us at FoxSports North back in the day.
And, you know, Channel 45, uh,it's all about the kids.
It's all about promoting thehigh school.

(21:03):
Um, athletics and all the, thebands and all the good stuff
that goes along with it.
So, and I normally don't get towork it because it was great.
Here's the wild have three orfour games on a road trip.
This year, it just so worked outthat I had to take off one wild
game to to work ten at thetournament and it was well worth
it.
It was an, it was anunbelievably good state
tournament and speaking ofkindness, the one thing I gotta

(21:25):
tell you, both teams in thechampionship game that lost,
I've never seen this, stuckaround.
The entire time the winning teamis not only getting their
medals, but got their trophy anddid their celebration out of
respect for the champions.
The runners up both did that.
St.
Cloud Cathedral did that andstill water did that kudos to

(21:47):
those kids.
Kudos to those coaches.
Um, I love seeing that type ofmutual respect.
Do they do the handshake at theend?
Like they do in the, yeah, Isaw, you know, I mean, think
about that, right?
I mean, one team has just one.
One team has just had theirhearts broken.
Both games were, were one goalhockey games and, uh, just

(22:08):
incredible, incredible stuff.
It was, it was high drama.
It was great.
Um, do I have time to tell likea two minute story?
Tell a five minute story.
You've got, uh, seven minutes.
All right.
St.
Claude Cathedral, um, had agoalie, um, named Keaton
LeGrand.
And his family every day wouldstop by the set and say hi.
We love your coverage.

(22:28):
We know you used to be a goalie.
So anyway, I met the grandpa.
I met the mom.
I met the dad.
The tournament plays out andEast Grand Forks scores the
winning goal on this kid and hehad a great tournament.
He was an all tournament goaliebut the winning goal was a fluky
goal from the corner that wentoff his skate off the post and
in.
Just a nightmare.
for a goalie to give up a goallike that.
So, right away, I I had becomeFacebook friends with his mom

(22:51):
and I sent her a quick notesaying, hey, am I okay texting
your son um to to help kindawalk him through this and she
right away within like a minute,send me his number and so
they're on the ice doing themedal ceremony and and waiting
for the champions to get theirtrophy and I sent him this Long
text saying, hey, you had anamazing tournament.
You're a junior.

(23:12):
You led your team to the statechampionship game.
It was a fluky goal.
I know how that play looks badbut I know from playing the
position that you were trying toget back and match up with the
post and it just was a bang bangplay.
Don't let that define you oryour season.
You're you're just a great greatgoalie.
So, I'm thinking this kid isgoing to look at that and say,
what the hell?
Bottom line is they leave theice within two minutes.

(23:35):
I get a text back from Keatonthanking me for that message.
And then I go on with my nightand I was really impressed with
the kid.
Text me back from the lockerroom before he took his gear
off.
I'm like, this kid's classy.
Well, now I'm working the doublea game and there's this kid.
At the set and the securityguard comes over and says, Hey,
there's a young man that wantsto say, hi, why don't I only
know what he looks like with hisgear.
And I don't know what he lookslike without his gear.

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And I look at this kid and hegoes, Hey, I'm Keaton.
I want to introduce myself.
And he goes, I wanted to thankyou in person for what you did.
And it changed the whole courseof my day.
And I'm like, Now that rightthere for a for a 17 year old
kid.
That's classy.
Yeah, that's some good parentinggoing on there Well, I think
it's a it's a great move thatthat followed up a really classy

(24:17):
thing.
You did.
Yeah Nominating him that was anice kindness Chronicles Also,
uh, Kindness Chronicles, uh,something of the day.
Yeah, yeah.
I'd rather have the doughnutartificial intelligence than
the, uh, day of the day, butthat's okay.
Let's get a host of them.
That's actually the, uh, thereward, is a doughnut the next

(24:40):
time we see you.
If you ever make it across town,you know, there'll be a doughnut
waiting for you.
Yeah, we gotta get you back overhere.
I don't like the ones that havethe stuff.
I like plain, like, I like aglazed.
Or a plain, like just those, Idon't know what you call them,
but no frost, I don't like allthat stuff.
You don't like, oh, I gotta tellyou, the white frosting, oh my
god.
Where, at the donut hut?

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At the donut hut, I don't knowwhat they put in that white
frosting.
How are the fritters, because I,I was told that you gotta get
there early.
Well, I mean, for starters,there's fruit, so they're
healthy.
But you've never had one?
Oh, are you kidding?
Of course I've had one.
Oh my god, I've, I've.
They're crunchy on the outside.
Yes.
Gooey on the inside.
Yes.
You know, the fruit feels likeit actually came from an apple

(25:22):
that, uh, George Washingtonpicked.
Did he pick the apple?
No, he was the cherry tree guy.
It doesn't matter.
It sounds really good.
Um, sometime I'd like to getthere early.
The lady kind of, I went therebecause you told me about it.
I'll send you guys photos.
They didn't have any fritters.
I went there like two in theafternoon.
Not a bad choice.
On a Friday.
She's like, oh, yeah.
She looked at me like, you, Isaid, what, you got any fritters

(25:43):
back there?
She goes, You got to get herewhere she can look me up and
down.
You can hear way earlier thanwhat's wrong with, you know,
like a bakery kind of way, youknow, can we just go back to
KG's a story with the goalie?
Great story.
Um, I will say this watching,uh, some of that St.
Cloud Cathedral team, they werea classy group of kids.
Just they were class.

(26:04):
I mean, the whole, I was superimpressed with all of the, uh,
the games that I watched andjust the way that they conducted
themselves.
But that's great to hear that,uh, Stillwater operated the way
that they did, as did St.
Cloud Cathedral.
I just think the tournamentstill has the magic.
Like, the bands, the kids, the,you know, all the, the pomp and

(26:26):
circumstance that goes alongwith that, it still has it.
Like, the world has changed.
It's certainly not the world wegrew up in.
I mean, with all the technologyand the cell phones, and these
kids certainly don't punch in tosporting events like they used
to.
But when it comes to thattournament still getting the
hotel rooms still getting theface paint on they're wearing

(26:47):
the hawaiian shirts they'rewearing the red white and blue
they're doing the chants backand forth like it still hasn't
and there isn't much like if youlook at 40 years ago since we
talked about it And we all,we're all feeling, you know, a
little bit older.
Now that tournament still is awalk back in time.
It's still got that.
And I love that about the statetournaments.
Help me understand somethingthough, the mustaches, what is,

(27:09):
and the hair all, so the hair Iget'cause of the hockey hair
thing, but the mustaches,they're, they're terrible
mustaches.
Rarely love it.
They're not great.
You see a guy.
There was a guy from TIDA a fewyears ago that actually looked
like a police officer.
Like he had a solid Tom Sellecklooking sort of mustache, like

(27:32):
a, like a police officer in a,um, in a 1970s.
Adam 12?
No, no, but, but like a, aHalloween costume police
officer.
Like in a bag where you go.
A police officer costume?
No, like he looked like he, youhad the right to remain silent.
Oh, if you saw this guy.
Okay.
Like, you'd immediately put yourhands together and say, bring
out the cuffs.
Um, I just, I don't care forthat look, and there's lots of

(27:56):
people trying to have just themustache.
It looks so intentional.
You know, like I'm trying sohard.
Yeah.
What do you think about the dyein the hair?
A terrible idea.
I don't like terrible idea.
Because here's why it unifiesthem, whatever it brings them
together, winning unifies youwhat happens is, and I'll use my

(28:17):
son Jack as an example.
Okay, he went out and dyed hishair before the state tournament
for football.
Yeah, it's must have been asenior year.
Did they all do it?
Everybody, there were a couplethat didn't, but they're just
about everybody did it.
Yeah.
And we were looking at picturesfrom like, Okay.

(28:37):
Spring break the following, andhe still had remnants, he had
frosted tips, frosted tips and,and let me tell you, all it was
was a, a reminder of the factthat you lost about two days
after you dyed your hair, youlook like an idiot, well that's

(28:58):
just a negative angle though, totake John, but that half of the
people that do it, I mean, howmany teams go into the State
High School Hockey Tournament?
Sixteen.
Only two of those teams leaveas, as champions.
Yeah, but you gotta go, yougotta go in, you know, expecting
the best, right?
I guess my head brain doesn'twork that way.
I look at it and I think Did helook good with bleached hair?

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Was it bleached or what did theydo?
Well, I will tell you that Mrs.
Schweitz, you know, wanted toprotect Jack's hair.
A lot of the kids went andbought a bottle of, you know,
the bleachy stuff and they Yeah,it fries your hair, right?
Jack came out with thisbeautiful platinum Oh, he did it
right.
kind of silvery, oh my god.
I mean, he looked You know whathe looked like?

(29:44):
He looked like, uh What?
George Harrison.
Oh, really?
Oh, wow.
George.
You know, is that his name?
The guy that was on the, uh, thegodfather?
No, he's a beetle.
What are you talking about?
George Hamilton.
Oh, so you're saying after whenhe, he colored it back?
No, he colored George Hamiltonwhen his hair went gray.

(30:05):
Like it was sort of like asilvery grayish, uh, black.
But what does your kid do?
I don't understand.
You know what?
We're going to start this over.
No, no, no.
George Hamilton is an old man.
He had dark hair.
I thought he bleached his hairwhite.
Blonde.
Like the team.
He did bleach his hair blonde.

(30:26):
Okay.
But it was more of a silveryblonde.
Really?
It looked really kind of coolactually.
Okay.
I'll show you a picture whenwe're all done here.
Great.
I'm glad we sorted that out.
Good, but he didn't look likeGeorge Harrison.
He was the guy from the Beatles.
Yeah, that's the guitar playerfrom the Beatles, the Beatles,
the Beatles, the Beatles, closeenough.
Um, KG, I understand your, uh,your youngest daughter is in

(30:49):
town and you're going to gospend some time with her.
Yeah, she's on spring break.
So, uh, over the weekend,Chrissy and I took her and
Maddie, the, uh, the middledaughter, uh, to brunch.
And then Anika is like, we, weshould go see.
A movie, let's get dinner andsee a movie on Tuesday.
I'm like, perfect.
That's your day.
And so we timed it out with the,with the recording of the show.
We're going to get a littlePanera.

(31:11):
Here at 630 we're gonna go seethe brand new movie black bag.
Oh Kate Blanchett little spyespionage Movie and then she's
gonna head back to acquire.
Can I just ask has anybodystarted watching White Lotus?
Yeah Of course, I've seen all ofthem.
I'm watching this series too,this season.
This season, about the stupidestshow I've ever seen in my life.

(31:33):
You've never seen it before?
No, I've seen the first twoseasons were great.
Okay, so you're saying this onedoesn't stack up.
This season is four episodes sofar.
That's quite slow.
Of, of character, uh,development.
It's building, yeah.
I'm sick of it.
I know, it's kind of it.
Now, Reacher on the other hand,have you been watching Reacher?
No, I know he's Oh my god, isthat show good.
Ooh, I like, I like Reacher.

(31:53):
Yeah.
Yeah, so Just White Lotus.
Thumbs down.
Two thumbs down.
Well, let's, let's finish theseries, then we'll talk about
it.
Let's finish it, and we'll talkabout it after.
Um, I guess, you know, we'vegiven them 30 minutes.
Well, I think, I love how youfeel like it's, you put your
time in.
I think the point was You'retrying to get I would suggest
people try this go get on thefree chat GPT open up and just

(32:18):
type in AI and kind or say whatways can AI influence kindness
and compassion in the world andyou will be surprised at the
kind of things that come up andit might even be tailored to
it's it's all about how you askit so play with it check it out
right it's it's what you put inis what you get yeah it's I'm
shocked at how I had a lot offun with ChatGPT over the

(32:41):
weekend.
It's very cool and it's, itcould be a great tool for
helping and designing andputting together all kinds of
really good stuff.
It wouldn't be right if wedidn't have just a quick moment
on sports with KG real quick.
Isn't that what we did withhockey, John?
No, we did a little bit of that,but I want to ask, I mean the
Vikings.
What do you think of the Vikingsoff season moves, KG?
They're, right now, they haveSteve doesn't even know what

(33:02):
that means.
I don't know.
I don't know what happened.
They have made some unbelievablemoves.
Both their offensive anddefensive line have been shored
up.
The running back they got fromSan Francisco is a stud.
They got Aaron Jones.
It's phenomenal.
Now, this can all be submarineby one move.
If they bring in Aaron Rogers,the ship is going down.

(33:27):
He is the anti KOC.
KOC has created an environment.
Where everybody's like together,they're connected, they're good,
they, they treat each otherwell, it's not about them, it's,
it's not me, it's thee, and youbring that donkey in here with
that.
He's old! He's done! Thedarkness retreats, he stinks, I,
uh, please don't do it, pleaselet J.

(33:49):
J.
McCarthy have his time.
They've got them surrounded byan offensive line, running
backs, great receivers, studtight end, like, it's ready to
go, don't overthink it, don'tsucker in on the shiny toy
that's out there, please.
I heard some very interestingspeculation that I just want to
leave you with.
There is a wide receiver who'sapparently unhappy with the team

(34:13):
that they're with at the moment.
And, you know, the 30 milliondollars in cap space.
Available.
And you know the cap goes upevery year.
What if they brought in TyreekHill?
I would love that.
Wouldn't that be something?
Steve has never heard of TyreekHill.

(34:35):
No, he has too.
Steve, tell me who your favoriteMinnesota Viking is.
If you say Fran Tarkinson, we'regoing to ask you to leave.
Bud Grant.
Bud Grant, yes.
Did you ever collect baseballcards as a kid?
No, but I did collect, uh, uh,Kiss Cards and, uh, Elvis Cards,

(34:56):
and, uh, Did you actually?
Yeah, they had those, remember?
I had Star Wars cards.
I had Star Wars too.
Yeah.
I had Star Wars cards.
I was one of those Princess Leiaones.
Come on now.
Jesus.
Well, this has been the CodinessChronicles, uh, with, uh, our
favorite Sorry.
I don't know, morning,60-year-old guy.
I don't know what we've coveredhere.

(35:17):
58.
Let's not add yours for God'ssake.
We talked about ai.
Yeah, we talked, we talked abouta lot of important things.
Let's just remind everyone to,uh, practice or get on and get
your, uh, Sunday uh oxytocin,Sunday Oxy to Sunday on Sunday
evening.
Taylor, Taylor, your evening,your, your consumption of your

(35:38):
phone usage and your, your, uh,media.
Tailor it.
Get it, get it.
Find things that are reallyinteresting.
You sent us that thing.
Did you send it to us about thatwoman who was in the gym?
Oh my God.
That I'll, I'll get Lucy to postthat to our people because that
was so well done.
This woman got some encouragingwords from a stranger at a gym

(36:00):
and it was so.
So meaningful because she meantit and that's the kind of stuff
you gotta see.
Love, love, love it.
And you know how I got that?
How?
I think because I manipulated myalgorithms.
There you go.
It got sent to me and it wasthis kind of heavier woman.
A woman, uh, she's been going tothe gym every single day and she
said she sees this guy, kind ofa meathead looking guy, full of

(36:21):
tattoos, piercings.
She thought he was gonna likesay something rude to her.
And he came up, don't judge abook by its cover, and he came
up to her and said, I've beennoticing you at the gym and I
just want to tell you how proudI am of you.
And the woman's telling thestory and she just starts to cry
about it.
That's what's touching about it,the way she explains that story,
it's great.
Yes, great.

(36:42):
You know, no one ever says thatto me when I'm at the gym, you
know, why I don't get thateither Do they say that Yeah,
they do say that the donut likeI've noticed that you've been
here every Tuesday For the lastsix weeks.
You're a good donut purchaser.
You help out the people behindyou You don't take all the
cherry ones and you supportlocal.

(37:02):
It's right support and I alwaystip them John I'm proud of you,
you know, can I tell Thank you,Steve.
Yeah.
Can I tell you that?
I got one last thing, guys.
Let's go.
And uh, one of the gentlemen Iworked with at the state
tournament just on one of themornings before the hockey games
from Minnesota Live, um, it'sChris, is it Egert or?

(37:22):
Yeah, Egert.
Egert, yeah.
He's fantastic.
Seems like a nice guy.
Him and Megan Newquist were socool to work with.
Bottom line is, he just sent outa hello, um, and she might be
the answer to the question foryou, John.
If you had this, if you had tobe stuck on the International
Space Station with one personfor eight months, who would it

(37:43):
be?
And I think it's a greatquestion.
He just.
We did this out today.
It's obviously timely with it'sa good question to throw out
there to our audience.
Yeah, that's good.
I've got my answer Princess LeiaNo, she's deceased more more
topical with modern times.
She's no longer with us ScarlettJohansson No, Sidney Sweeney.

(38:07):
Oh KG you pervert I was gonnasay my wife Yeah.
Oh, you were so, you're full ofit, you're so full of it!
Remember, you gotta, you gottaspend time, you're trapped in
outer space.
Let's think about this.
That's a good idea.
I'm not gonna just throw outsomething.
All of our significant otherswill probably strangle us.

(38:28):
I gotta think about this.
Well, I mean I don't know whyyou would say that to the 60,
000 listeners that we have.
I'm just trying to be honest andkeep it real.
Um, nobody wants, nobody like,Chrissy does not want to spend 8
months up there with me.
I have anxiety when I'm trappedfor 8 hours.

(38:50):
I mean, 8 months?
No chance.
You know, actually, when I thinkof it, I would probably want to
have somebody up there that Ireally don't like.
Because they would, it would bea torture chamber for them to be
with me.
No, that's terrible.
That's not very kind.
Well, no, it's Who doesn't likeyou?
Yeah.
Well, where do we start?

(39:10):
I think I'd choose someone thatwas much smarter than me, that
knew how to survive in terriblesituations because you don't
know what's going to happen inspace.
What if you were stuck up therewith a guy that just wants to
tell dad jokes?
Oh, no.
I think I might jump.
I think I might just jump.
So here's a quick, who wouldn'tyou want to be stuck up there

(39:31):
with?
What are we doing?
We should have finished this 6minutes ago.
I think it's Hey, since you knowMegan Newquist, maybe we could
have her on the program someday.
Yeah, it's a good guess.
You know, we're still waiting onYogi Berra's daughter.
Does she even exist?
No, we got her.
She is committed to the show.
Yogi Berra's granddaughter willbe on the show.

(39:53):
Baseball season.
is right around the corner.
That's what we've been waitingfor.
That's what we've been waitingfor.
We, uh, we didn't talk about St.
Patrick's Day or anything, butit was yesterday.
Oh, yeah.
We kind of missed that, but Iguess Hey, our friend, uh, uh,
Todd Hurley was Mr.
Pat.
He has no hurls.
No way.
Yeah, he was Mr.
Pat, like the, St.
Patrick's Day The guy, theparade, he was Mr.

(40:14):
Mr.
Pat?
Yeah, he was Mr.
Pat.
He's the, uh, the CEO of the,the, uh, what do they call it?
The, the river, the portAuthority.
Okay.
Yeah.
So does he wear like a big greenhat and does he like, kind of
march around?
What does he do?
Yeah, he suppose that guy, hedresses up like, uh, a
leprechaun, a leprechaun.

(40:36):
Throws candy at kids and stuff.
Throws candy at kids trying toknock their, poke their eye out.
Oh, that's kind of cool.
Who are those guys in those redjumpsuits that like run over a
kid?
The Vulcans.
The Vulcans.
Yeah.
That's a winter carnival thing.
Yeah, they used to have fun.
They don't get to have that muchfun anymore.
Capriculture took care of that.
Well, that and I think a littlebit of groping might have had

(40:56):
something to do with it.
Whiskey and groping is frownedupon.
Generally speaking.
Okay.
You know what?
Go do your oxytocin.
We'll see you next week and offwe go.