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June 3, 2025 • 41 mins

The KC Crew discuss movie moments that get you "where it counts."

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​Welcome to the KindnessChronicles, where once again we
hope to inject the world with adose of the Minnesota nice that
it desperately needs.
Sounds like a children'sprogram.
It's a children's program.
We've got Steve Brown in thestudio.
Hi.
Hi Steve.
Hi.
Hello there.
We've got Jeff Hoffman, our.
Aging intern.

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Hey guys with us.
Hello.
Hello.
Hey.
KG is on special assignment inAfghanistan right now, But, we
had a big event last week.
Yeah.
We had a lot of fun.
Fun.
A successful event.
It was a, it was a really niceevent.
There was probably 350 people,in the auditorium.
Yeah.
We had some.
some listeners that showed up.
Yep.
My favorite listener that showedup Me too, was a guy and you

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guys talked.
His name is Nick Flood.
Yes.
Nick, I hope you're listening.
I hope so too.
I just want to tell you a littlestory about Nick Flood.
Nick Flood was an exceptional aall the floods were great
athletes and they went to St.
Thomas Academy.
Oh, good for you.
For you.
No, but they all went to St.
Thomas Academy.
Nick went to, uh, to theUniversity of St.

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Thomas.
Good.
His dad was a legendary coach.
Yes.
Mm.
He was, we were talking aboutthat track and field coach.
I mean, the guy, he was just,just a good, good coach.
Flood coach flood.
Hmm.
Okay.
Coach Flood.
There's a general flood in VinceFlynn's books.
Yes., Clearly so I had thought Ihad recognized his name.

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And I wasn't at the St.
Thomas event honoring VinceFlynn, uh, the one that, um,
what's Amelia?
Ella's husband Frank Va Frank.
There you go.
He hosted it and yeah, but I,I'm like, Nick Flood.
Didn't you get up and talk atthe, at that event?
And he was,'cause he was acharacter in Vince Flynn's
novels.
Yes.
And that was the turnover to thenew author, general Flood.

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He was telling us about it.
You were at the Vince Flynn?
I was not, but I found it onYouTube.
Oh.
Because I used to work withKevin Flynn.
Oh yeah.
Vince's brother.
And so I was very in tune andintrigued and just, knew a lot
of people that knew about theVince Flynn story.
And later, um, I came toappreciate him and what he did
for our state and justeverybody, the kids he helped

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with, Dyslexia, and just his.
Writing and articulate, wayabout him.
And I saw him speak at theRonald Breggan, not in person,
but on YouTube.
So as you guys know, I'm a goodresearcher and I find these
videos and so I feel like I knowVince.
Yeah, Vince, great guy.
I, you know, I've mentionedthis, that I actually, in my

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safe down here, I have a.
A copy of the originalmanuscript of Vince's first
book.
The version that I have, it wascalled A Right to Rise Up.
It changed to Term Limits, whichwas not a Mitch Rap, story, but
it was God.
I, I read it and I'm like, holysmokes it.
It was so well constructed.
my advice to him was, I don'tlike the title.

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And there's way too much, uh,swearing.
Wow.
I mean, it was just, it was justover the top and he took some of
that stuff out.
But anyway.
Wow.
Nick Flood, what a great guy.
Yes.
I mean, I was so just pleasedthat he introduced himself.
He came out so, so Me too.
I, I love talking to him.
And he, uh, he and I, I've beentexting with him since then.
We're gonna have him on, we'regonna have another Vince Flynn.

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Show.
Yes.
Um, and to talk about, to haveNick on.
I, I asked him if he'd want todo that and he said he was
interested.
But what's cool about is he cameto that scholarship event, that
live scholarship event where we,where we did our first live
podcast.
Yeah.
Uh, or at least recorded live,uh, just to meet us and just to
see what we were all about.
And so we got a chance to talkwith them.

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So that was, uh.
Pretty cool thing and he's apretty impressive guy.
Super cool.
Yeah.
And I know, uh, a whole bunch ofpeople that know him and he's
totally salted the earth and,you know, kindness chronicles
it.
It makes perfect sense to methat he would be a guy that, uh,
that might listen to this.
Yeah.
Um, there are a couple of other,uh, fans there, but we're not
gonna mention those peoplebecause they're as cool as Nick

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Flood.
Yeah.
Sorry, everybody.
Yeah, it's a tough to compare.
So the event, your, uh,impressions of the event.
I loved it.
I loved the vibe.
I think everyone that was there,so I read, I read, uh, the
crowd's faces.
Yeah.
I'm used to seeing faces in anaudience if I'm on stage.
well, you're an entertainer.
Yeah.
So I could, I could see by facesand how we were doing a couple
little bumpy moments, but, butoverall, the vibe was smiles

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and, uh, laughter.
I think our portion of theevent.
Which was more of the structuredrest.
It was a lot of grip and grin.
Mm-hmm.
Photos and, you know, announcingtheir names and, you know, a lot
of clapping in between.
But we sat and actually hadsome, uh, heart to heart
conversations or like real lifeconversations with these kids
that nominated their friends andthe, the people that were
nominated themselves.
And, um, what a cool vibe andwhat a, what a great, faith in

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youth.
Totally.
Yeah.
Like these kids are involved.
I said this at the event, like.
It's so great to see that youguys are out there getting
involved, meeting people,joining things, helping each
other, like young people aredoing that.
And uh, you tend to get a sensethat, oh, things are really bad
and nobody's talking to anyone.
Like these kids are showing usthat it's still out there.
So it is.

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They're still going and they'restill trying.
And was it Reed who is with youthere?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Reed was the other host.
He, I, I.
Met him.
Uh, I got the pleasure ofmeeting him and I told him at
the end, I said, you wrap thatup perfectly.
The pro.
'cause the pro, he said thatexact thing.
Yep.
That there's faith, there'sgoodness out there.
Right there despite what youhear about the bashing of that
generation.
Yeah.

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You are proving to us thatthat's totally wrong.
Yeah, there's a lot of hopethere.
Super impressive kids.
Well, and what I enjoyed morethan anything was just the
opportunity to, I mean, all thescholarship winners are
obviously impressive.
Yeah.
To me the highlight of the show,the program was getting a chance
to meet the, uh, selflessscholar, nominators and nominees

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and their parents and just howgrateful some tears parents
were.
There were some tears.
It was very cool.
Yeah, it was very cool.
And that show.
Is being, uh,, put together, aswe speak.
I would imagine that next weekor so it'll be, posted, but
Cool.
Well, I, I also wanna say, yeah,kudos to you and Reed.
Yeah.
For running that whole thing.
You have such an ability with,it's your people, it's your

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room, it's your, you just, youdid a great job aside from the
sweating.
You did a great job.
I sweat God.
What is wrong with me?
No, you're just very comfortableand it's so fun to see you do
that.
Comfortable in my sweat.
I'm not comfortable.
I'm so uncomfortable.
Yeah, but you just, you make anote of it and you people laugh
and you just keep going.
That's the only way that I can,that I can cope with it.
'cause I get just so worked upat those things.
But you're not nervous'causeyou're so relaxed and chill and

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fun and funny and, well, mynerves are, uh, manifesting in
the form of massive, massive.
You need like one of those sweatJames Brown, uh, cloaks.
Does someone come over?
Maybe I'll come over and youknow, wipe it down and then
we'll, yeah.
I need like a, I need a personthat's gonna have the fan that's
gonna be fanning me.
That would be kind of, that'svery Michael Jack Jackson.
You did a great job.
People were really digging it.
I got to do, I got to do probono amateur photography.

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'cause I know you had the realprofessionals there, but it was
fun to actually turn thosearound to you guys yesterday.
That's great.
The poses with you.
Oh, God.
And the scholarships going, youknow, and then also my favorite
pictures were when the two, um,nominee and nominator were
together, sharing the story andthe smiles.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
And just that whole vibe wasreally cool.
It was cool.

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Yeah.
Well, the, the, the Max Egan,let's talk for just a second
about Max Egan.
Max Egan is the young man from,uh, Maida.
Yes.
High school.
Totally Not an inside job atall.
Coincidental, max Egan wrotethis beautiful, nomination of a
classmate by the name of MaxwellNewcombe and Max Egan was a, a

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very successful hockey player,and he got shot in the eye with
a Nerf gun bullet during thoseNerf gun wars and essentially
lost vision in one of his eyes.
And.
It was disruptive to his entirejunior year.
The, the back hack of is hisjunior year.
And so it's, uh, it was nicethat, uh, that he was able to,
and I got such nice, thank yousfrom all these kids that had

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gotten the scholarships and theopportunity to get up in front
of a crowd and, you know, talkabout their friend.
They really did.
It was so, we didn't, didn't toreally, we didn't get to meet.
Max Newcomb.
Nope.
But we're I there?
There's a surprise.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm sure Max doesn't listen tothe podcast.
We are gonna do, uh, a surprisevisit with Max Newcomb.

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Kinda like what we did with Zachand Zach and Brooks.
Yeah.
Brooks.
Brooks and Zach.
Cool.
Uh, and that podcast got posted,so I hope people have had a
chance to listen to that one.
It dropped today.
It dropped.
Is that what we do?
Yeah, it dropped.
Called dropped.
That's the official line.
Yeah.
I think that was a great eventand I, I, I'm so happy that it.
You were able to pull it offand, uh, and we've did one,
we've, we have one show livedown.

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I'd love to do this more.
It's kind of fun to be able todo that.
I think, I think we really, youknow, it, it, it helped having,
you know, giving away a millionand a half dollars that's gonna
get people to come to the event.
You know, we're not gonna dothat at the next event.
No.
Unless it's another scholarshipevent.
Hey, the snacks were pretty damngood too.
The snacks I heard were reallygood.
I didn't have a chance.
What?
I ate one meatball.

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Yeah, one bite.
I know.
I barely got anything either.
I was, it was busy, but theywere pounding.
That was, that was very fun.
That was fun.
Okay, so we have a topic thatwe've covered before.
Yeah.
This is not new to this new kindChronicles listeners, this, but
it's gonna be, it's somethingthat, uh, because our friend
Jeff here.
You know, he seems to be reallyinto it.

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Um, fits, loves how it's rightup his alley.
I said it's right up his alley.
I can't help myself.
I don't know what it is, butlet's tell John, tell us what it
is.
It's, uh, spectrum, you know,tell us around the spectrum.
Give us the topic, John.
So the topic is, something thateverybody can relate to.
It is moments of kindness inmovies and television.
we've done movies and televisionthat, give you that oxytocin

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feel.
Yeah.
But I'd like to talkspecifically about moments
within those movies and I wouldlike to do like a snake draft.
Okay.
And because I have the mic atthe moment, I would like to
start.
Alright.
All.
One of my favorite moments ofkindness that happens in a
movie.
This is my number one draftpick.
Okay.
And I mentioned this before, butI wanna, I wanna flesh it out a

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little bit.
Yeah.
In the movie, A Beautiful Mind.
Have you guys seen a BeautifulMind?
Yes.
This is, you mentioned this one.
Yeah.
I love this.
I, I get goosebumps when I thinkabout this moment when, John,
like the, character that,Russell Crowe is playing, is
invited into the staff, diningroom, professor's dining room.
And he's uncomfortable going inthere, but the chair of the

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department says, come on in,John, it's, you know, time for
you to come in and be a seethis.
And he sits down and all theseother professors come up and
give him.
Their pen.
And apparently that is like theultimate sign of respect., So
they're getting all these, MontBlanc pens and,, these beautiful
pens and just, his reaction.

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He says something like, well,that was very unexpected, and
the way that he says it, it'sjust so heartwarming.
Mm-hmm.
But I, I just, that's number onewith a bullet for me.
It's a rush of emotion in thatmoment.
It's totally.
Gets me.
I think I'm gonna cry.
That's a good movie for you.
You love that movie.
I love, love, love that movie.
I should see it again.
'cause I remember seeing it.
I thought it was pretty cool.
Yeah, that's right up therewith, uh, Goodwill Hunting as,

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you know, a top, top two orthree movie.
So it is a snake draft.
Do I try to come up with somekind of a related No.
Scene?
No, you can just order, order.
Just wanted to go first aroundapparently.
So you go Yeah, go ahead.
So I thought of one as you weresaying guys, like what, what is
a, what is a scene where.
There's some respectable peoplesort of paying homage to and,

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uh, I think remember thathomage?
Yeah.
Paying homage to in this case,Rudy.
Oh, and have you seen the movie,Rudy?
Oh, yes.
It's been a long time.
Yes.
Casey's one of, of K'sfavorites.
What's scene?
It's the, so by the way, I namedmy dog Rudy.
Oh boy.
He's a black lab for that movie,but there's a couple of scenes,

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but the one I'm thinking of isthe one where they all, he, he
couldn't play under the newcoach, but all the other players
come in, came in and throw intheir jersey on the tape.
They said, I want Rudy to playfor me.
I want Rudy to play for me intheir dropping the jerseys in in
front of the coach.
That is absolutely.
God, I love that.
Ugh.
I could talk about this shit allnight.
I know, and I think, I don'tknow if people love it, but I,

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you know, we get a lot of goodreaction last time.
Turn it off if you don't wannalisten to it.
We don't care where nobody's,you know, I think it makes
people remember these momentsin, in, in movies and shows.
Yes.
I have one that's a TV show.
Oh yeah.
You guys have done movies and.
This was, uh, a list that Ifound, or I, I put together the
question to chat EBT and I got abunch of good ideas.
Ideas, but, oh boy.
Smart.
Um, Ted Lasso.

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Yeah.
Oh God.
The dart scene.
Oh, God.
Be curious, be judge.
Be curious.
Not judgment is the scene andit's when, uh, Ted Disarms.
The other, the, the ex-husband.
Yes.
Right.
The other coach of Rebecca, isthat her name.
He disarms him with humility,kindness, and a lesson in, in
empathy, reminding viewers ofthe power of compassion over

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ego.
Yeah.
Remember that?
So he's like, he's great.
He's playing and he's playingdarts with, he's playing
left-handed, and then he, hegoes, oh, wait a second.
What I, what I didn't explain toyou is that I grew up.
You know, changed this to his,his right hand.
He goes, I grew up in a, in abar and I blah, blah, blah.
He just nails it, nails it,nails it.
Bullseye, bullseye, bullseye.
Just brings that bully down in areally cool way.

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That's, I wouldn't say it'skindness, but it's a, it's a
it'ss.
Oxytocin.
It's oxytocin gives you thatvibe.
It's sub, it's subversive andit's, uh, it's killing him.
The guy with kindness.
Yeah.
And to the point where didn'tthe guy kind of like.
Good job.
And he felt good and walked outwith the other girl.
I can't remember exactly whathappened.
He, Hey, he put him in his placein such a, such a, uh, um,

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disarming way.
Yeah.
Disarming, but, oh, um, what'sthe term?
Uh, classy way.
Mm-hmm.
Very classy.
Like, you know, everyone lookedat the guy and went, oh my God,
look at that.
He's been shooting left-handedthe whole time.
It's just a great scene.
Oh, it's a great scene.
Great scene.
Hey, you get another choice.
That was okay.
Got another one?
Yeah.
'cause it's a snake draft.
Well, we talked out about thepursuit of happiness.
Bring it.
Uh, okay.
It's the final job interviewscene.

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Oh God, it's so good.
Will Smith, right after enduringunimaginable hardship, will
Smith, his character, ChrisGardner, is finally shown
kindness in the form ofopportunity.
In the form of an opportunity.
It's a quiet, redemptive momentthat celebrates persistence, a
perseverance.
Human decency.
Remember He gets that finallygets after all that show.

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That movie is such a, that thatchallenging that the culmination
of all of the stress he had beenthrough Yes.
Gets brought forth during thatscene.
Finally get scene released,released of all that stress.
Yeah.
You see it in his face, don'tyou?
Like he's just holding it backand I think the boss who hired
him said, did it, did you?
Was it as easy as you made itlook?
And and he said, no it wasn't.

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But he was just like trying tohold back his tears.
And it was, it's a great, greatmovie and, and.
To think that's the same guythat smacked Chris Rock, ruined
his career.
It's a good actor.
Yeah, it's a good actor.
Bad you ruined his career.
Yeah.
You know there's a lesson inthat like just Exactly.
There's a lot out all this stufflike just.
Up butter cup.
Okay.
You got, what do you got nextone?

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Back on the snake draft.
Oh man.
You got a big list there, Jeff.
I know you already shared withme.
I know.
You know, I, I come back to the,the, the relationship and the
chemistry between Daniel LaRussoand Miyagi in Karate Kid.
Oh, wow.
I know.
I'm going back to 84, but you'reout.
It was such a semino out.
You're out.
And there's, so, speaking oflife lessons, I mean, there's.

(15:32):
So many Miyagi wisdom, uh,throughout that movie.
Um, what's a favorite scene inthat?
Oh, when he gives him the keysto the car.
Yeah.
That is, that he's been waxingon and waxing off.
Yeah, that's right, that'sright.
For a, for a 16-year-old kid,that's a huge deal.
Well, and and, and it was greatbecause it was, he, he was
telling him, go, go afterElizabeth's shoe.

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I mean, who wouldn't want to goafter Elizabeth's shoe?
But he was kind of giving him alesson.
Um, and he's like, he kind ofremember I told you about the,
the grape in the middle of theroad and the, you know, walking
on the left and the right sideand squashed in the middle.
And, and then he is like, goafter this girl that you want.
And it was right before thetournament and it was just a
great scene.
Very timely too, Jeff, becausewe have a new Karate Kid movie

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coming out.
Is there?
Yeah, another one.
Really?
Yeah.
And, and, uh, Daniel was in it.
You are kidding me.
Is it, is it because of the RobMac's in it?
Is it because of the Cobra Kaiseries and Netflix that No idea.
Huh?
Have you watched the Cobra Kaiseries?
No.
It's so funny.
I would, I just haven't, doesn'the own Miyagi Motors or
something?
He's like in the, the carbusiness.

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He, he's, it, it's, it's, it'sgreat because they completely
flipped the script and Johnny,um, the enemy dip shit.
Yeah.
Is be, he becomes the, the hero,the good guy.
The good guy in it and you're,you're rooting for Johnny who,
um, throughout the whole seriesand the last series, don't wreck
it.
Don't wreck it.
Just say, just say it wasgetting a little over the first

(16:58):
couple of epi or seasons aregreat.
And then they were like kind ofrunning out, running, it's kind
nostalgia filled, right?
You're just like, oh my God.
It's kind of pushing theenvelope a little bit, but you
will not be disappointed.
And I think it's like the firstthree or four up.
Our seasons are awesome.
Yeah.
From so many standpoints.
I could name off a bunch ofscenes and, and that, but I
don't wanna ruin it, but,alright.

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John, next one, back to me.
Kindness.
Yeah.
In movies and tv.
In movies and tv, uh, planes,trains, and Automobiles.
Oh boy.
One of my favorites.
It's on his list.
When Steve Martin, goes throughhis head and he realizes that
Dell doesn't have this family.
Yeah.
That paradigm shifting momentwhere he realized I haven't been
home in years.
Right.
Yeah.
And, and he.
Gets to the train station.

(17:39):
Yeah.
And there he is sitting there.
And what's so funny is JohnCandy is this great big actor
and the way he's sitting, helooks so small.
Yeah.
And Meek, I just, oh my God.
Do you know from that pointuntil they get to the house,
like.
It's so emotional.
Oh God.
It's so well done.
It's well edited.
Yeah.
The music is perfect.
John Hughes is a master.

(17:59):
And did you catch how they,they, they showed him when he
walked into the scene or in the,the house at the end, how they
kind of, they showed him holdinghis hat in his hand.
Yeah.
Just a very short clip, but it'slike such a humble clip.
But here's this guy inviting himinto his family and the wife
treats him with graciousness.
Oh God, it's so good.
The music kicks get a littleemotional just thinking about,

(18:21):
it's such a great scene.
It's, it really is like aThanksgiving movie for me.
It my first date, that was myfirst date movie in high school.
School FYI.
Oh my God.
You start crying on your date.
No, I was laughing the wholetime and I think she was
wondering what the, who is thisguy laughing out loud?
Trying to fight off the tears.
You know that that guy'sdestined to be a 55-year-old
intern.
Okay.
What, where now you go again.

(18:43):
So I get to go again.
You mentioned John Hughes in themovie Breakfast Club., When the
basket case, the Ali Sheetycharacter Yes.
Gets dolled up.
And the fact that Claire, youknow, who's the princess dolls
her up.
Yeah.
And Emilio Estevez, he's, hisreaction is, he doesn't say
anything.
And she says something like,thank you, like, like his

(19:05):
reaction so much.
Sure.
First she kind of, first she's alittle mortified.
Yeah.
Because she thinks, oh no, likeyou don't like it, you don it.
And then, and then he kind ofsmiles and then she relaxes.
Oh God, there's so much, there'sso much subtext between those
two without any, without anyscript.
It's so great.
Plus again, music did a reallybig Oh, exactly.
Big part of that movie.
That's right.
And just the kindness fromthroughout that whole movie.

(19:26):
Mm-hmm.
You know, that just manifestsitself at the very end.
When Claire gives, bender theearring Yes.
And puts in the ear.
I mean, it's just, so, I thinkit's also, you, you think of it
as an eighties movie, but.
It, it's kind of timelessbecause it, it talks about
different group, you know, well,you could put different groups
together.
Popularity spectrum.
Yes.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Yes.
The popularity spectrum.

(19:47):
It never really changes.
It's timeless.
It absolutely is.
Tomorrow night we're doing acivility, school.
Civility.
You are project thing up inDuluth?
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
So we're doing a presentationtomorrow.
Someone recently sent me a memewith those, the characters on
the breakfast club, but they putlike Edina over Claire's, um,
picture.
Oh.
Have you seen that before?
I saw that.
So it, it's, everybody canidentify, it's a universal

(20:10):
appeal movie for that reason.
Yeah.
And every school has thosecharacters.
Yeah.
Every school in every communityhas those characters.
Yep.
Anyway, so that's mine.
Okay.
I love it.
What do you got, Jeff?
Another John Hughes.
One would be home alone.
Oh, God.
Um, just the, the old man.
Yeah.
Old man stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, and Kevin.
And, uh, uh, there's this there,I don't know if you guys have

(20:33):
seen it, there's somethingcalled the Hero's Journey, and
it's like.
A a lot of you might see moviesand say, gosh, I feel like that
reminds me of this movie.
And it's because it's a 12 stepformula of redemption and Oh,
sure.
Um, a character goes through anda lot of times a, um, a, uh,
mentor shows up and helps rescuethis.

(20:53):
Person that's in like anobscure, boring scene.
But anyway, that happens in allthese, these movies like Star
Wars, Luke Skywalker.
But anyway, Kevin's littlemetamorphosis that happens
throughout that when his parentsleave him alone and he's like, I
wish you, I wish I was, youknow, I didn't have parents or
whatever.
And then all of a sudden hiswish comes true.
I wish my family disappear.

(21:13):
Yeah.
Um, I made my family disappear.
It's classic, but there, there'sa concept on YouTube for anyone
who wants to really geek out onlike the subtext and the
meanings and, and just type inhome alone video essay or type
in office video essay.
And you'll get these like filmstudents that are looking for

(21:34):
gigs or something and I thinkthey're like, they go way deep
into the story and you willunearth scripts and things and
subtext that you never evenknew.
About a movie and the homealone's got some really good
hidden meaning.
Jeff, you gotta find a job.
I mean, my God, he's, yeah, he'sgoing deep.

(21:56):
I have to say it.
I have a moment for kg to to, toperk up.
Do you remember in Seinfeld, thehome alone moment, George is
watching TV at Jerry's place?
Yeah, he's watching Home Alone.
And Jerry walks in and he goes,are you crying?
He goes, oh man.
Got to me.
Yes.
Right, right.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yes.
Very timely.
Okay.
Um, I got another TV one.

(22:18):
Okay.
Schitt's Creek.
Did you guys watch all that?
Yeah.
Shit's Creek.
Not all of them, but I, I lovedit.
And I, there's Chris Elliot's,one of my favorites.
Oh yeah.
Way back in Letterman Day.
Somehow that doesn't surpriseyou, the guy under the seats.
Oh yeah.
Love it Jeff.
Okay.
David and Patrick'srelationship.
Yeah.
That episode where, um, theirlove story unfolds to everyday

(22:40):
acts of kindness, trust, andacceptance, rarely seen with
such nuance and humor intelevision.
Remember the moment where hesang that song, David Sang, or,
uh, Patrick sang it to DavidPatrick sang the song to David.
The, the, uh, Tina.
Um.
Simply the best.
Yes, yes.
It was such a cool version ofthe song.
So again, music, I mean, justmoment.

(23:01):
Just mark that music is a bigpart of that Absolutely vibe.
It's a script on all these.
And music swells up with theright, the right choice of song,
the right word, and rightmelody.
The right absolutely.
Instrumentation, it gets you,gets the oxytocin going.
But um, I thought that was justa, such a cool mm-hmm.
Standout episode of that show.
That show was funny and sillyand I loved it.
But that made you just go, wow.

(23:23):
Yep.
You sing.
He's singing to him and it'sjust this great moment.
I thought that was great.
It was.
And you know what's funny?
Um, I look back at when I was inhigh school.
When you were in high school.
Yeah.
You were in high school.
Yeah.
And just how difficult it musthave been to be gay back then.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
And now I just think that welive in a kinder world as it

(23:45):
relates to that.
Yeah.
I think that it's, you know, tome that Schitt's Creek
storyline.
it did so much more than justYes, make us laugh.
here's these two characters andlove is love.
Yeah.
I I was It's the power of story.
Yeah.
To change a culture, really, youknow, maybe someday we should
do, I mean, we should go downthat road.
I think so too.
You know what also broke, brokeThrough was Sean, uh.

(24:08):
Sean Hayes.
Sean Hayes.
Yeah.
Just Jack.
No.
Well, what was the show?
It was it called?
Uh, yeah, it was, uh, no.
Will and Grace.
Will and Grace, that show.
That's true.
Did exactly what you're saying.
Sch Creek did the same thingagain, but his character, oh
God.
He was such a lovable guy andmade everybody just go.
Oh, he's just this great guy andlet all that BS go away and

(24:32):
America just went, we love himand who cares what Modern family
kind of did that modern familytoo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
It's great.
Look at us.
We should have an episode ofAbout that.
Look at us taking on the, uh,the topics of the day.
Yeah.
Okay.
That was, we're only about 15years before.
Yeah, that's okay.
Yeah.
We're, yeah.
Um, is it my turn?
It's your turn again.
Okay.
Um.
We already talked about theblind side.

(24:53):
I'm not gonna bring it up'causeKg brought it up before I, so
the blind side, was that one ofyours?
It's, that was gonna be my nextone.
But the, the blind side, youknow what's sad about the blind
side is that, that Michael oryou know, kind kinda wasn't
exactly what he, well you know,he kinda.
It just didn't end up the way,you know, he said that he didn't

(25:14):
get any money out of that.
It's like, come on man, let, letus keep the story as it is.
Right.
You ruined it.
Four.
Mitch making truth has ruinedthe story.
A year playing ball.
The truth has ruined the story.
Right John?
Yeah.
Don't ruin a good story with thetruth.
Um, well, the other thing I wasgonna say, I'll, I'll, you can
even talk more about that.
'cause the ones that are, arethe rest on my list.
I don't know the scenes.
Oh, very well.
But.

(25:34):
I will say this, so I get thesense, Steve, that you, you use
that chat GPT quite a bit.
Yeah, I do.
I get a sense that you would'vehad a tough time making it
through high school in a modern.
Without any, you wouldn't haveany thoughts of your own?
No, I don't want to.
That's exactly why I don't wantto talk about those.
'cause I didn't see the moviesthat are on my list.
I wanna to talk about those.
I No, but I'm saying I, I, Iappreciate the fact that you've

(25:55):
discovered.
I haven't discovered chat.
GPT Oh my, my God.
And I don't want to, it is anamazing tool for work.
Oh, I know it is.
I trust me.
I just, I did this second, asecond.
I said gimme a list ofunbelievable.
But let me just say another oneI found on here.
Have you guys ever seen themovie Paddington two?
No.
I've not even seen Paddingtonone, but I know about the Bear
and I've seen the, it's adelightful, uplifting movie

(26:19):
about a silly kid's movie.
About a bear, huh?
He's the most kind.
I'm familiar with Paddington.
He's the most kind, uh,character in any children's
movie, and he's just, he enduresthe whole thing.
He's, he's been wronged andeveryone's against him, and
he's, his, his intentions weregood the whole time, but
someone's kind of framing himand he comes out of it.
So different in it's Ted.
It's so sweet.
'cause Ted's a movie about abear.

(26:41):
That's a naughty bear.
Yeah.
Right.
Is Paddington one worth it orshould I skip right to the
second one?
Uh, they're both good, butPaddington two is more like a
perfect movie.
Okay.
How about Toy Story three?
Yes.
Toy Story three.
Good God.
Oh, you're killing me.
Exactly.
Well, I, lemme just make a onemore note about Paddington too.
Did you see the um, PedroPascal, uh, um, Nicholas Cage

(27:02):
movie?
No.
It's super funny and Paddingtontoo plays a role in that movie.
They're talking about that moviefor the same reason I'm talking
about it.
Oh no, I love that.
It's really, really funny.
It's a silly movie.
It's, uh, Pedro Pascal is a bigfan of Nicholas Cage.
It's the unbearable talent ofNicholas Cage, something.
It's got's what it's called.
No unbearable talent.
I have to check this out.

(27:23):
Pedro Pascal's, this reallyrich, wealthy guy who hires
Nicholas Case to come and justhang around with him.
'cause he is, and Nicholas Casedecides to do it.
And they get, they talk.
One of their conversations istalking about Paddington too, so
that's funny.
Yeah.
Um, okay.
What do you got, Jeff?
Well, did anyone see, so this isgonna.
Uh, I've got a couple of'em, butthat's a long story.

(27:45):
Let me think, let me think here.
It's a long ex explanation,Jeff.
I'm gonna, I'm, I'm gonna gowith Stand by Me and I'm
thinking of my brother rightnow, and so I've gotta try to
hold it together.
But there's a great scene whereJohn Cusack is the older brother
of the younger brother.
Mm-hmm.
And he's just.
Super nice and gives his youngerbrother a hat.
And its, but his friends arebullies though, right?
His friends are a bunch ofjerks, if I remember right.
I don't think that John q Johnsee John Cusack's character in

(28:08):
that was like the football star.
Yeah.
And so the little kid kind offelt like, because he was a
story writer, he, he lovedstories.
Yeah.
The dad identified more with theolder brother.
Yeah, of course.
Who passed away.
And so anyway.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
But there's a backlash scenewhere the little brother's
thinking to his older brother,and the older brother took an
interest in his ability to writestories, and I thought that was

(28:30):
cool.
And he gave him a hat and itreminded me of my brother, but
Oh, right.
Um, there's just a great,there's a nu a number of great
friendship scenes throughoutthat movie.
Oh, yeah.
Especially at the end.
So.
Anyway, that was, again, musicplays a huge role in that movie
too.
It does, it does.
Very nostalgic.
Yeah, absolutely.
And also time timeless.
It's, you can watch that movie.
My kids could relate to thatmovie.
Yeah.
Just that age when you're just12, 11, 12, 10, whatever, and

(28:52):
you're just out cruising around,you're, you're experiencing
freedom in a small way on yourown, you know, just, you know
what's weird?
At the very end when Richard DWDreyfus is sort of the grownup
character and he is writing thestory and he is typing kind of
the last page and his, hislittle.
His kids are saying, dad, are wegoing fishing yet?
Or whatever, and they're tryingto get him and he's kind of
reflecting on, you know, did weever have as good of friends as

(29:15):
we had when we were 12?
Um, and at at 55, I have to saythat I'm hanging out with my
friends from that age and we.
I, I think about it very often.
I feel like I'm very muchidentifying with that story.
Hmm.
I never thought I would at thatage watching it.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Because I was 13, 14 when itcame out.

(29:36):
Yeah.
And here I am 55 and I'm like, Istill think of that movie.
And do you think it's becauseyour, your bond with that age
people, do you think it'sbecause.
There's such a connection tothem and you go back so far and
there's so much unwritten orunsaid stuff that you just know
each other.
I feel the same way about mygrade school friends that I had
a reunion with.

(29:56):
I'm gonna peek out a little bitfor you right now.
Yeah.
But I think it relates to stuffyou guys have talked about
related to music and movie.
I think there's something to be.
Like during that age and thattimeframe.
It's imprinting on you.
Yeah.
Yep.
You're, you're at a, you're ata, your formative years.
Yep.
That becomes the soundtrack ofyour life and the, the, the

(30:16):
movies of your life that shapeyou.
Yep.
And it sets a lot of yourpreferences, A lot of your,
that's.
Things you're afraid of, thingsthat you're interested in?
As I look at my list of movieshere, I mean, I'm, they're,
they're, they're all from likelate eighties, early nineties,
mid, mid eighties, but like DeadPoet Society was another one.
Oh, oh boy.
Yeah.
That'll get Kgs.
A big fan of that.
We've talked about that movie.
Yeah.
So many times in this show,Robin Williams, there's a reason

(30:38):
been so many.
Great poignant movies.
I mean, what a loss that guywas.
Yeah.
From Dead Poet Society to PatchAdams.
You ever seen Patch Adams?
Yeah, it's great.
Oh my God, it's so good.
I think he took, he did a reallygood job.
He was a, he was a reallyunique, he.
Person.
Yeah.
He was Mork for Mork, for God'ssake.
He had no, but I think he had somuch energy in him.

(31:00):
Yeah.
And it came out through comedyat first, and then he took that
same energy and put it towardsdrama.
He was so good at that.
He was, and that's not, that'snot common to be able to make
that jump.
I think it had to do with hisessence or whatever.
If you wanna get, he, he hadsomething, an energy in him that
needed to.
Empathize and connect withpeople, and he was so good at
it.
We should do an episode onoxytocin inducing music.

(31:24):
We've talked about it, but it'sharder.
It's harder because there's alot more subjectivity to it, but
that's okay.
I mean, you know, the, the, the,the music that might get my
attention may not get yours, butyou know, for our listeners, you
know, they'll, they'll besitting there thinking, and I'm
sure people are yelling intotheir mics.
They don't have a mic.
No, they don't have a mic.
They're yelling at theirdashboard saying.

(31:44):
Why aren't you mentioning A, B,and C?
Yeah.
Alright.
So by the way, real quick, youused the term fl.
Yeah, I think it's flashbackback Flash is the movie, uh,
with Kurt Russell and I saidsubjectivity.
I think it might be objectivity.
I don't know.
Okay, here's a little tub, alittle twist of topic with the
advent of a new movie that'scoming out that, again, a little

(32:08):
vulnerable here, but I'm excitedabout it and I'll just admit it.
Um, how to Train Your DragonLive action version.
I like that one because it'ssort of like the dragon is
toothless, is like a dog.
Oh yeah.
do you guys have any movieswhere the human befriended a
non-human and I'm thinking et orSure.
Any dog movie, but, and did anycome to mind where it's like a

(32:31):
human built a relationship witha non-human?
Hold on, pause for a second.
Pause.
How Train and dragon.
I, I agree that the animation,the first film is an amazing,
great film.
My kids loved, we loved it, andI love all things about it.
Why are they redoing it, Jeff?
I don't know, but I'm excited.
It's, it's a live, it's the samedirector and it the same, I

(32:53):
watched, I, again, I geeked outand I watched like the director
said.
The technology has arrived.
And what's cool about Simple, Ithink can, the answer is money.
Well, yeah, that's true.
They're just making money on thesame film over again, I guess.
Yeah, that's true.
They can re re That's, theydon't have to rethink a whole
new idea.
The cynical view.
I know, but it it is a greatmovie.
I okay with it.

(33:13):
Are we on the 15th MissionImpossible movie?
That's true.
Or, or Adventures movie.
For that matter, but, but didyou, did, did you guys get a,
like ET was a big seminal moviefor me.
I was 12 years old when I sawthat.
And I still to this day talkingabout making an imprint and an
impression on you as a youngkid.
You know, it's a huge movie whenyou release it in 1982, right?

(33:34):
Yeah.
And then they re-released itagain and it made just as much
money.
Exactly.
And that's goes back to thedrag.
I would say an example of thatfor me and I, you know.
I'm not quite into pets andstuff like you are.
I'm not sure anybody is.
Um, you really should find work.
Um, I should be a zookeeper.

(33:54):
You should be a zoo.
There you go.
I got a, I got a dog, A cat anda bird.
I could, I could walk dogs.
I bought a zoo.
We bought a zoo.
Zoo.
There's a movie.
Um, the movie, and this is kindof funny.
Harry in the Hendersons.
Yes.
When he tells Harry to go away,John Lithgow is like, yes.
Get lost.
I that, that got me where itcount.
My kids love that movie.
Yeah.
It got me, caught me where itcounted.

(34:14):
It's pretty because it's'causethe acting is so good.
Lithgow is great and the kid'sgreat.
Oh, Lithgow, how about him?
He's so good.
He's excellent.
He is.
He can go anywhere and beexcellent at everything he does.
Yeah, he's really good.
Did you see the, uh, theenclave, enclave, enclave,
enclave?
God almighty, you, you know, youbetter get church.
You're supposed to be Catholic,right?
He says, have you seen enclave?

(34:36):
Is that the Buick?
Is that the new Buick Enclave?
Yeah.
I saw it's.
I loved it.
Yeah.
Conclave was so good.
This is so interesting.
Such a culture.
I just, speaking of video essaysand, and the Pope and Chicago, I
did find a video essay on theBlues Brothers, and it went deep
on how kind they were in termsof, and music being the
universal language.

(34:57):
Oh yeah.
And bridging the gap betweencultures and socioeconomic, so
check it out, YouTube.
Wow.
So what do I, what are Isupposed to Google YouTube?
You could, so that one youcould, you could Google video
essays.
Blue is brothers.
I think it was, um, sociobreaking social barriers.
Tell us the video essay.
So what's your day look like?
Like you get up in the morning,what about noon?

(35:20):
No, no.
I sure get up, up at three.
Get up at five and I will startresearching.
I let Rudy out.
Okay.
And we, you know, bond a littlebit and then make the coffee,
but.
John, I, I am productivethroughout the day.
He's day new.
It's just a phase in his lifeI'm in.
Don't question it.
I'm in a chapter.
It is great though,'cause it'slike complete creativity and I'm

(35:41):
like researching and I'm, I'mmeeting Michael tomorrow for
lunch and we're gonna talk andhe's got 10 ideas for me to, as
he said, after the event theother day.
So it's fabulous.
Yeah, I've got a lot of list,list list of people.
John.
I do admire it.
I envy it in many respects, youknow.
It is super fun.
Like when my phone is blowing upat, you know, one o'clock in the

(36:01):
afternoon, I'm thinking, youknow, I gotta fucking work here.
What's great about that, John?
John, though, I mean, I'm, andI'm not blowing sunshine or
anything, but you're, what'sgreat about your situation is
you're aligned.
With what you're doing.
Oh, I couldn't agree more.
I lost Yes.
And, and that phone, you're,you're, that doesn't feel like
work to quote Kevin a fewepisodes back.

(36:23):
And when you're productive andyou're doing it, that's great.
And that's what I'm trying to dois reorient myself using like a
compass and map.
I'm just reorienting and I'llget on that thing and then I'll
be all over the place in termsof busyness.
But I heard that you, uh, youcould tell what your work
culture is.
On how you feel Sunday night.
Yeah, that's a great point.

(36:43):
Everybody gets, everybody getsto Sunday, like, ah, I gotta go
to work.
Yeah.
But if you're like, dreading, ifyou have heavy dread mm-hmm.
You probably shouldn't be, youshould be looking for another
job.
You remember Jerry and JerryMcGuire?
Remember that when he woke up inthe cold sweat and he wrote the,
the memo?
Yes.
Yes.
And, uh, but what about you?
What were you gonna say aboutSunday?
Sorry, Sunday Curious.
I just, no, Sunday, I never haveany angst whatsoever about going

(37:05):
to work.
That's a great thing.
Well, because this is a long, wehad a long Memorial Day weekend,
but I worked, I was, I went and,uh, met with the ladies at the
cluster homes, uh, ourtownhouses.
They had this big get togetherand they invited me to come and
speak, and it got me outtadoing, uh, some, uh, yard work.
So I at said you, I said, Becky,I said they, they were doing
work over at Jack's house.
And I said, I got a thing Ican't help.

(37:27):
Well, but I showed up when itwas time to pay for dinner, so
that worked out for everybody.
It's nice.
Exactly.
No, but you know, we're at 40minutes.
That felt like five that, thatwent really quick.
That was great.
It's, we always have a fun timetalking about movies.
I hope our audience, I couldkeep going, digs it as well.
And you're gonna get Nick Floodon.
Nick Flood.
Uh, the anniversary of Vince'spassing, I think is June 19th.

(37:51):
Okay.
If you could research Ed forI'll Terrific.
I would love to, but I, I dowanna give a recommendation for
another podcast last Friday.
Or maybe it was Monday.
It was just this past Monday onthe Garage Logic podcast.
Mm-hmm.
They played the very lastinterview that Suray did with,
Vince Flynn.
Oh, wow.
It was in October of, 13, and Ithink Vince died June 19th of

(38:15):
14.
And they were talking about, uh,his, his book that was gonna,
that was just about to come out.
Mm-hmm.
And.
You know, Vince sounded veryhopeful and he's so
entertaining.
Yeah.
He is so entertaining.
My god.
I mean, so much wisdom When Iwould listen to him talk, uh, in
fact the first book I read wasAmerican Assassin, just because

(38:38):
I love, I loved his origin storyabout that.
And he talked about rememberingwhen I think he based it off of,
when the.
The Syracuse flight went down.
Yeah.
During, um, the Irish, uh, itwas over Ireland.
Right?
When, when, uh, Lockerby Sky.
There you go.
Lockerby.
And I'm like, what a, what anempathetic Kham 1 0 3.

(38:58):
That was a very empathetic guy.
I thought to myself, I wasn'tthinking of Lockerby and, you
know, but that's an author foryou in a, a storyteller.
Well, and that's he, that isexactly the guy.
So save that.
Yeah.
The, let's talk all aboutepisode.
Okay.
We get a lot of Vince, uh,Vince, Vince Vaughn.
Vince, Vince Flynn conversationwe'll have with Nick Flood.
We'll get a lot of good storiesfrom him.

(39:20):
Um, but let's remind everybodyto participate in Oxy to Sunday.
Mm-hmm.
Which is.
Find stuff on your algorithms.
Change your algorithm whenyou're doing social media or
whatever.
Look up stuff that makes youhappy and makes you uplifts you,
rather than drags you down tosomething where you're watching
some ultimate fighting fightwhere someone gets their face

(39:41):
ripped off.
Oh, got it.
To find something good to getpeople started on that.
If they're looking forsomething, go on UPS dogs on
Facebook and you'll have a goodlaugh.
There you go.
And also, I wanna remind peopletoo, um, get on our Facebook.
Page and, and look back at someof the episodes we've done.
You can see some informationabout those and some photos and,

(40:02):
and send us a note.
Tell us what you think to giveus some feedback we're liking.
Okay.
Give us some ideas of thingsthat we could talk about.
Yes.
Got great feedback from the, uh,the lupus spiel that we had.
Yeah, that was a fun art.
She had energy.
Oh, that was great.
She was great.
Whoa.
Super fun.
Yeah.
So just yeah, keep us, keep usposted on what you're thinking

(40:22):
about, how we're doing.
Absolutely.
'cause we, we love to hear it.
Alright, and with that, thankseveryone.
Off we go.
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