Clown Car Episode

The whole gang is in studio. Buckle up for a bunch of nonsense. JJ McCarthy, 21 cents, Would you rather and a special Dr. Who clip.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the KindnessChronicles, where once again, we
hope to inject the world with adose of the Minnesota kindness
that it desperately needs.
We got the clown car in studiotoday.
We got a full house.
We got Michael Dempsey, SteveBrown, our uh.
55-year-old engineer.

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There we go.
Slash intern Jeff Hoffman.
Awesome.
And Kevin Gorg making a veryrare appearance in the East
Metro Kgs here.
This is fantastic.
Yo.
Yo, what up?
What up?
He wants to talk about.
Uh, he wants to listen to the,the music is still going.
That's lovely.
That's good stuff.
The, uh, big win last night.
K.
Wants to talk sports.

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Steve wants to talk music.
Jeff wants to talk aboutWikipedia.
We're not sure what Michael'sgonna talk because where he
going, Dempsey's talking aboutsomething.
You know where Dempsey's going,but since I'm in charge, you're
the man.
Um, I would like to talk realbriefly about, uh, Minnesota
Vikings football last night.
How about that?
The Minnesota Vikings.

(01:24):
So I just, for starters, many ofyou are aware we missed a show
last week.
My dad is, uh, in the hospital.
He took a spill.
You know, he's, he's kind ofmessed up from the neck down.
He's a 400 watt light bulb fromthe neck up, which makes it
almost even worse.
Hmm.
But last night I spent the nightwith him at, uh, regions
Hospital, in the trauma unit,and, um.

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We watched the Vikings game andI said, you know, I've always
wanted to watch a Vikings gamewhen you are attached to, uh,
vital signs.
I wanted to, because I want tosee what his blood pressure
does.
Oh, you, ups and downs.
I wanna see what his pulse, whathappens with his pulse.
Funny, is he a diehard guy?
He, he's, he's just, he's a verypassionate guy about things that

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he's passionate about, and ifthe Vikings are on.
He gets into it a little bit,,it was just so much fun watching
the game with him, you know,while he is in a hospital and he
can't really move from the neckdown.
It was just really fun watchingit.
And he made the comment, that Ihope that during the first half,
of course I hope that peopledon't just jump on, JJ McCarthy

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and you know, all of a suddenwe're listening, looking for
Carson Wentz or Max Broer, let'sget Sam darn back.
You know, one of those kind ofthings.
People were panicking though.
There was, they were panicking.
There were some panics, that'sfor sure.
I was getting text messages ifyou were on Twitter.
Vikings fans were all, I guesswe didn't need Aaron Rogers, all
those.
I'm like, this is his first NFLgame on the road.

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Just happens to be in the, youknow, in Chicago where he grew
up and was, you know, able to goto games as a kid.
There was a lot of pressure onthat young man.
And, and to his credit, hestruggled mightily, uh, in the
first half of that footballgame.
But he's a winner.
The kid finds ways to win.
He won a state championship inhigh school.
Won a national championship incollege.

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I think he's the right guy forthe job.
Obviously they've got somethings to clean up, but if
you're a Vikings fan, that hadto be a heck of a lot of fun.
It was, it, I, I was justjumping, I, I thought it was
amazing and I was getting a lotof, you know, texts as well, and
I, all I said was, I mean, givehim a half.
Just give him a half, becauseI'll tell you, it wasn't only JJ

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that was struggling.
I mean, it was the entire teamfor sure.
I mean, most of those playersdidn't play all through the
preseason.
Right.
The coach sort of held them backand mm-hmm.
You know, give them, give them ahalf to kind of pull it
together.
And then the 59 yard boomer tosort of end the half.
I, I, it was.
It was just a wonderful Vikingsgame to watch.
I I, I have to, I I loved everysecond of it.

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I happened to be watching theManning cast.
Oh, yeah.
Which is super fun watchingPeyton and Eli Manning.
You know, they had Bill Murrayon there.
They had, uh, Randy Moss onthere and Randy Moss called the
ju the, the Justin Jeffersontouchdown when it happened.
That's cool.
But my favorite part of thewhole thing, and I'm sure some
of you have paid attention tothe news, is in the, uh, after

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he throws that.
Pick six.
He's back in the huddle and helooks around at the guys in the
huddle and he says.
Is there any place you guyswould rather be?
And,, Aaron Jones, said that atthat moment he goes, I knew this
guy was a boss.
The fact that he came in thereand recognized the reality of
the moment and that, we'replaying a game.
We're getting paid to play thisgame.

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Is there any place that you'drather be?
I just absolutely love that.
And how many kids at age 22, 22can command that huddle?
On that stage on Monday nightfootball in their first start,
this kid is built different andif you watch the post-game
interview, the way he's able todeflect the praise coming his
way, the way he's able to talkabout his teammates.

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His coaching staff, therelationship he has with Koko,
this kid is special.
I'm telling you they are.
And again, I'm a Denver Broncosfan.
Remember, this is not my team.
I love the bikes, but theBroncos are my team.
Watching that game last night,I'm like.
Man, the Broncos could have hadthis guy, they let the Vikings
jump him.

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Sean Peyton was super arrogantabout it and I think Bo Nicks is
just fine in Denver.
He is a good, solid quarterback.
Yeah.
Except you suggested I take BoNicks for my fantasy team.
Calm down.
And he got 8.42 points.
I mean, that's just not enoughpoints.
Week.
Please calm down.
Okay.
Um.
So, as you guys know it, this issports section.
I know for the audience this whyI cut.

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Steve had to raise hand aboutthe anthem last night'cause the
anthem was spectacular.
Oh yeah.
I just, hockey anthem.
I just wanna chime in here.
Um, I'm also, I love Vikingseason.
I, I do, I love the season, butI don't follow as close as you
guys did, do I, I literally satdown, ready to watch a game, had
a hard day at work.
Nice drink.
It was like, okay, here we go.
Yes.
I'm like, who's this guy?

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Oh no, I didn't know there was anew quarterback.
Who is this?
You're joking.
I didn't, I didn't know Thilanwas.
I'm like, oh, come on now.
The's back, dude.
For me, it was a wonderfulexperience.
Are you kidding?
Do you not pay attention to thenews?
Not to the sports.
I guess I didn't, so I was like,who's this kid?
What a friend, friend Talkingtonwas playing?
No.
I was, and I was right away.
I was like, I don't recognizeanybody.

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Where is everybody?
What happened?
Who were you looking for?
Chuck.
And then, and then Well, AhadRashad.
No, but I, I was like, okay,wait a second.
Who was the guy that was on theNetflix special about, uh,
quarterback Kurt Cousins.
Yeah.
He, he got traded.
Are you looking for him?
I knew he was gone.
That's what I'm like.
Okay.
I don't know.
I don't recognize this team andthis is terrible.
But Justin Jefferson, yourecognized as soon as, as soon

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as I saw him, I'm like, okay.
Okay.
All right.
There we go.
And then Thilan.
I didn't know Thelan was back.
He just got back here two weeksago.
So, so again, I was like, okay.
And it was pretty dismal firsthalf, and I was so delighted.
I had a great time watching thegame, especially seeing people
that I started to recognize asthe wa as the game went on.
But that'll be it for you whenit comes to the sports talk part
of the show.
But thank you for contributing.

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Listen boys, I'm you.
What?
You opened a vein.
I'm just making making sure youunderstand there are more
listeners who maybe aren't asin, in tune with everything
that's happening.
That's fair.
I, but I love Vikings.
I love Vikings football.
I love.
I love it in a different waythat you like it.
Let ask you this, do you wear ajersey?
Do you don't have a Jerseychance?
Put on, I put on a Viking shirt.
Okay.
That counts.
My wife was like, I rank, Iguess there's a game that
counts.
You can also realize no one inmy family watches it.

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I'm the only one.
Let's, real quick, if you had towear a Minnesota Vikings jersey,
this is a no-brainer for me.
Which one?
Wow.
Which jersey would it be?
Kg.
You have a no brainer.
Who would it be?
It's old school for me and it's,I'm gonna pull out the, the 44.
The Chuck Foreman?
Foreman.
Oh, Chuck Foreman.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I loved him as a kid.
Yeah.
Loved him.
Loafer Bread, Chuck.

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Mine would be either Scott Stud,well, oh wow.
55 or Bob lma?
70.
70.
Wow.
Was he 77?
77 or 70 because Ron yy 70 was73.
Always the holding penalty onyy.
I think what's the look atStussy was 73.
He also had a lot of holdingpenalties.
He did.
He did.
But what was really funny is,um, whoever number 84 is for the

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Vikings now, uh, Oliver.
Dropped a pass when Randy Mosswas on the pa, the manning
thing, and he goes, ignore thatnumber.
That that number, you know, wasvery funny.
How about you, Michael, if youat Jersey?
Yeah, I, I'm, I'm gonna have togo with KG only, only because,
um, have you guys, have any ofyou guys watched, uh, welcome to

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Rex, him.
The, uh, the series about?
No.
Oh, I highly recommend it.
Oh, is that the one with RyanReynolds?
Yeah.
He, he, he goes, uh, uh, buysthis, uh, soccer team.
It's a team, real team.
Right?
It's a real team.
Yeah.
It's, it's hands down the best.
But in the, one of the veryfirst episodes, it's talk talks
about a community comingtogether around the team and how

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a community.
Comes together and it, it, thatties to kindness really well.
But it also, he also makes astatement that between the ages
of eight and 12, you go takeyour team that your dad takes,
right?
Yep.
That you grew up and I kg toyour point.
I grew up with my dad in the,you know, mid to late seventies
cheering on the Vikings and itwas Chuck Foreman, Chuck

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Foreman, Chuck Foreman.
And it was appointment tv,right.
Oh my, when you were, were a kidwatching that game with your dad
on a, in the middle of winter,on a Sunday at noon.
Yeah.
There was something.
So yes.
Unbelievable special about thatexperience.
And John, it's so cool that it'scome full circle now.
I, and I know it.
It's a bummer.
What your dad is dealing with,but the fact that, you know,
yes, you go from meeting the kidwatching with your dad in the

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living room to now going tovisit your dad and watch it.
Yeah, it's in his hospital room.
It's unbelievably cool.
Yeah, it's lovely.
There's a scene in the movieCity S Slickers, where they're
all around the campfire.
Love that movie.
Remember the cute blonde?
And then she's like, I don'tknow.
Why do you guys all just talkabout baseball?
We talk about relationships andfeelings, and he's like, I don't
know.
You know, growing up, my dad andI didn't have a lot to talk

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about, but we could always seeeye to eye on about baseball, on
baseball, and so that, that.
Oh, reminded me of your story.
It's, it's, it's, it's, it's,and, uh, not to, we will get to
this story some other time.
The last time I saw my dad thelast time was my senior year in
high school and my, my folksdivorce, I didn't see him very

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much.
He came to a high schoolfootball game and I was a
tailback and I returned puntsand kicks and that particular
game we were playingMinneapolis, Southwest.
And I returned the second halfkickoff for a touchdown.
My dads in the stands, I'm notkidding you.
That was the last, he, he, he,he, he sort of drove off after.

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It's kind of like a scene out aFriday night light.
This is, no, this is no joke.
And that's amazing.
Unfortunately, um, that January,so four months away, you know,
he passes away.
Right.
That was the last time.
Oh my gosh.
I saw him.
But you wanna talk about didn'tconnection, didn't wanna cry
tonight.
No, no, no.
You wanna, but you wanna talkabout connections, right?
Yeah.
You wanna talk about connectionsand connecting on sports?

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Chuck Foreman.
I mean, my dad would laugh andyell and scream about Chuck
Foreman holding that ball like aloaf of bread.
He would sort of walk aroundand, but that's, that's the
jersey.
That's, that's the jersey.
And now for me For, for me too.
And now I'll just leave you withthis.
Right.
The last thing that I'm gonnasay about, uh, Chuck Foreman and

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wearing a jersey is.
Right.
Right now I have all mydaughters.
The night before a game or theday before the game, they're all
in their twenties.
You have three daughters?
Two kg I do.
The text comes out and I say,who's wearing their jersey?
Because what I used to do iswhen they were in teenage years,
I wouldn't pay for an expensivejersey.
I'd go to Goodwill.
And grab one and I would gograb, I'd grab one with three

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bucks.
Dante, Cole Pepper you'rewearing that he hasn't played in
20 years and they wear theirjerseys with pride.
But that's what I'm talkingabout.
You connect around sports.
Yeah, it's amazing.
But anyway, Chuck Foreman.
Okay, so what are you gonna say?
How about you, Steve?
Joey Browner, uh, Teddy brownerin real strong hands.
No idea who Joey Browner is.
Of course I do.
I could picture his face rightnow.
There's also you, Ted Brown.

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Ted Brown.
Well, 2023, but he just alwaysran right up the middle.
I don't know, but yeah, but I,but I like 23, so I'll go with
that.
Ted Brown.
Ted Brown.
Hey, by the way, I've met TedBrown and I've met Chuck
Foreman, and they're both greatguys.
I bet you've met'em all.
Well, I.
Ted Brown I met because his sonplayed for the wild, JP Brown.
And uh, I would love to meetChuck Foreman and he's on with

(12:20):
Dan Rero on a regular basis andI never miss it when, when Chuck
is on with Dan, for me it's,it's must list and Radio Rero
iss so good at that form todayhe had, he had Thilan on today
and that's gonna be his weeklyguest.
Oh, cool.
He always has a, a currentplayer on as a weekly guest.
I would highly recommend ourlisteners go back and podcast
that Rero show from today.

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We're, we're recording on aTuesday because Thilan talked
about the opportunity to movehis family back home and the
kids get to be with theircousins.
They get to be back in theclassroom with the friends they
grew up with when they were alittle smaller.
Oh, that's cool.
And the emotion and how his wifeis kind of taken charge of all
of the logistics.
She's like, you go take care ofthe football, get back in there,

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learn the system back with theVikings, get to know your
teammates that weren't therewhen you left.
You handle the football stuff,I'll handle the logistics.
And he said, getting them backup to speed the kids and re
immersing into the school andthe community and the sports.
Yeah, they all play sports.
The interview was fascinating,but the emotion he, he has
looking forward to going backoutta that tunnel, uh, Sunday

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night when they play thefalcons, the home, the home
opener.
It was, it gave me chillslistening to the interview.
I love it.
And, and, and if you ever wannaknow what that's worth.
In that case it was 2 millionbucks.
Alright.
I'll give up 2 million bucksbecause that's what it's worth.
He talked about that in theinterview.
Oh.
Oh, did he?
Absolutely said, oh my goodness.
His agent came to him and said,are you willing to do this?
And he looked at his agent, hegoes, obviously, whatever it

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takes, there's lot moreimportant things I wanna get
back there in life than money.
Well, and I got a feelingphelan's, you know, he's got a
couple bucks in the bank, he'sdone.
Okay.
You know, Mrs.
Thilan, you know, she's, she'sactive on Twitter.
And she, you know, probablysaid, you go do the thing.
Just make sure you leave thatAmerican Express Black card.
I got some stuff to pay for.
Yeah.
I got some stuff to take careof, you know.
I'm Michael.
What, what number were you whenyou ran that kickback?

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What number were you, were youwearing?
I, uh, 34.
Oh yeah, that's a HerschelWalker.
There you go.
I remember that.
Ran right outta your shoemaker.
Walter Peyton.
So who's your Jersey?
I'm gonna have to go with BrettFavre.
Oh wow.
In a Vikings jersey.
He played for with us for, what,two years?
I'm aware.
Okay.
So I didn't know that too.
Kg, tell me what you think.
'cause I, I'm like Steve, Idon't know the names.

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I am an easy target from thatperspective.
But he got miked, they micd himin games and in huddles and he
charged up his team.
And I, I heard a few clips ofhow he did that in interviews
where he said, you know, I knowthat the players feed off of my
emotion and.
The, wasn't the team doing wellunder him?
First year was unbelievable.

(14:50):
Yeah.
Remember that the, the firstyear they went to the NFC
championship game, and, youknow, this is the Kindness
Chronicle, so we can talk aboutthe opposite side.
The New Orleans Saints basicallystole that game.
And again, remember, I'm aBronco fan.
I'm not a Viking fan.
I'm, I'm objectively analyzingthe game.
Minnesota kicked the snot out ofNew Orleans.
They went up and down the fieldin the Saints that day.

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Unfortunately.
Adrian Peterson fumbled threetimes inside the red Zone, and
that was Bounty Gate.
That's where the Saints werebeing coached to try to hurt,
quote unquote take the head offthe snake, which was your guy,
Brett Fav, and they were tryingto hurt him.
The entire game.
All that being said, Vikings hadall those mistakes.
Fav was playing through injuriesfrom what the Saints were doing

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to him physically trying to hurthim.
Hmm.
Vikings have the ball tie gamelate with a chance to win it.
And Brett Fav literally couldhave ran for 15 yards and they
would've been in field goalrange at the 30.
And that's the throw across thebody one.
Yeah.
Paul Allen and the broadcastsays, oh no, come on man.
This ain't Detroit.
Meaning this isn't some regularseason game in November against

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the Lions we're playing to go tothe Super Bowl and you're Brett
Favre, dude, you're a hall offamer.
You can't make that throw acrossyour body.
The game ends regulation.
Tide, saints, get the ball.
March down, boom, kick the fieldgoal.
End of story.
My favorite Brett Fav is, uh,what about Brett Favre from
something about Mary?

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Great, great stuff.
Steve.
You've seen that movie, haven'tyou?
I know very well, yes.
What about Brett Favre, by theway?
My number was 23 as well, so itwas unique that Ted, Ted Brown
and I shared that same number,and it's my wife's and Michael
Jordan.
It's my wife's favorite number.
Isn't that crazy?
Huh?
That's cool, huh?
How about that?
So, so what?
This has hockey been great.

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I was a soccer.
Well, this has been kindchronicles for you.
So we were zero, zero or zeroone.
Were you, did you have numbersin, in hockey?
So I, I was the first, uh,Burnsville goal tender to not
wear back in the seventies oreighties.
You had to wear one or 30.
Oh, okay.
That was your choice.
One or 30.
Jeff Poel.
Currently the head coach here inMadam where we're recording this

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podcast, played at Hill Murray.
There we got those legend, checkthose boxes.
Bing, bing, bing.
He wore number 21.
And when I was a kid, I went tothe state tournament and I
watched him and I'm like, oh myGod, that's my guy.
That guy is unbelievable.
And so I got to to Burnsvilleand I had to wait my turn to
play.
I broke my collarbone.
Sophomore year, missed basicallythe entire season.
Junior year I got stuck on thejv.

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All my buddies.
Went to the state tournament.
Didn't win it though.
So now it's my senior year andI'm gonna be the starting goal.
Oh God.
Are we gonna talk about thisagain?
No, I don want to hear this.
This is good story.
This is, this is a good story.
Story.
I didn't know this since we'retalking about numbers.
So I'm obsessed with the number21 and I, in my mind,'cause I'm
such a mental midget, I, I feellike I have to wear 21.

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Our coach is Tom Moki, legendarycoach, kind of a hardass.
And in our neighborhood, I'mbest friends with his son Mark.
So I go down there in thesummer.
And I start begging andgroveling to coach Oi to wear
number 21.
He goes, Gorge, your choices areone or 30.
We keep having this conversationthrough May, June, July.
Keep having the sameconversation.
It's like talking to that wallGorge.

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We have one or we have 30.
So finally I come down, it'sAugust now, right before
school's gonna start.
I said, coach, I said, hear meout today, and this is the last
time I'll bring it up.
You started this hockey program,correct?
He's like, yes, I did.
Do you understand that this isthe 21st year upcoming Oh, of
Burnsville High School Hockeyand we've never won a state
tournament?
Understand that?

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Burnsville has two syllables andBraves has one, and the final
thing I'll say is my name isKevin Gorg.
Two syllables and one, I lookedhim in the eye and he was hard
ass.
I said, coach, you give menumber 21 and I promise you we
are winning the statetournament.
That is awesome.
No chill.
I've heard that story and sonow.

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And this is where it ties intoyou, gentlemen, for from that
moment on, I had two dimes andone penny in my left pocket.
But you, yes, we are winning thestate tournament and yes, every
day of my life, and I swear toyou every day of my life, if
you're at a bar, at arestaurant, at a wild game at
Canterbury and you have a groupof people and you bet them, I

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can tell you what he has in hisleft pocket.
Nothing else is ever in my leftpocket besides two dimes.
And that penny, I love it.
Every it single day it for 41years.
That's awesome.
That is all.
And you said you couldn't sellcars.
Are you kidding me?
I could sell cars.
I just didn't know what the hellI was doing while I was selling
them.
They'd ask me about thetransmission.
I'm like, well, you know, soundsgood.

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The names in one penny, I cantell you about that.
Oh, that bad.
Does postal, does potion knowthat story?
He does.
He does.
That's great.
He does know that.
I don't know if he knows thedetails of it.
But he knows the obsession I'vehad with that number.
And, um, you know, coach Oe andI have, we had our 40 year
anniversary last year, went backto the rink, did a sel.
And it came up again, like, he'slike, you would not stop bugging

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me.
Let's see it.
Alright, let's see.
Okay.
He's, he's, uh, I was on theverge of Steve, me.
He's emptying his left pockets.
This is a long story.
Steve is challenging him.
And look at that.
Oh, is it always the same 21cents?
It rotates.
If you have a couple bad days,you have to get the new shiny
penny.
Okay.
Um, bad days.
What?
Yeah.
You, you know, if your mojoisn't good, tarnishing Oh,

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tarnish a little bit.
Fantasy team struggles.
Right, right.
Bone nick is a tough game.
Yeah.
Wow.
Hey, now, hey, now.
Alright, so this is really,we've been talking about this
for a long time, but this hasbeen wonderful.
It's fun having you in the, it'sgreat to be here in the, yeah.
In the studio.
And I know it takes like twohours, so we appreciate the
effort today.
I made it in a snappy one hourand 45 minutes.
I know.
It's terrible.
Of course it's a rainy day.

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You knew the traffic was gonnabe brutal.
That's all right.
So before the show, we decidedwe were going to, well,
initially we talked that we weregoing to address the topic of,
you know, can there be.
Kindness in a world that is sodivided.
And what if we tried to talkabout political matters?
It's kind of the theme of ourshow, John, John.
It's, it is.

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But you know what, if we were toattempt to talk about political
matters and do it in a way that,um, was civil, was civil, unlike
social media, and it became kindof uncivil.
Well, no.
The became, well, it did, itbecame, we started talking about
assault weapons and we got.
You know, we got captain whodoesn't know what an assault
weapon really is.

(21:10):
I'll tell you right now,compare.
I know.
I'll tell you right now.
No, I'm gonna say this and it'snot really political.
Unfortunately.
We've gotten to a place and Ithink social media has a lot.
We talk about this a lot.
Yeah.
A lot to do with it for sure.
But we've.
The best that this country, atleast in my lifetime, the best
that our country ever was.
And it, it's really sad to bringit up.
But 1980, lake Placid, that was,that was one.

(21:33):
Okay.
The day after.
I'm very serious.
Day, day after.
But I would, I would, after nine11.
Nine 11, the, the year, I wouldargue the calendar year.
You go back to nine 11?
Yeah.
In 2001.
And take that block, that 365days.
You know, use George Bush in therubble at ground zero talking
to, talking to those sablefirefighter people.

(21:55):
Right.
The, the first responders, thefire firemen, they were all on
that rubble.
I can hear you.
We can hear you.
And soon the people who broughtdown this building, they're
gonna hear, hear from all of us,all of us.
I went to a rally at our capitolin St.
Paul with my, my daughters werelittle.
My dad dragged us down there.
It was packed.
And they had a flyover deal.

(22:17):
They had these speeches, theyhad the music going, Lee
Greenwood, of course.
It felt so good.
And we all wore our red, white,and blue, right?
Yeah.
I didn't give a shit who was onthe left side, who was on the
right side.
I didn't care if you weretransgender.
I didn't care if you were gay.
I was there to represent thered, the white and the blue.
And I will argue that that yearwas the best that this country's

(22:39):
ever been.
And it sucked that we had to gothrough what we went through to
get there.
Somehow we gotta get closer tothat.
Than where we are right now.
I,'cause I don't like all thisdivision.
I don't.
Oh, it's insanity.
I don't care for it.
Yeah.
And there really isn't, youknow, it's, so instead of
talking about that Steve Brownbeing the swell guy that he is,
he's a lover.
He has brought, he got a game.

(23:00):
He's got a game for us to play.
Awesome.
We're gonna, I love games.
We're gonna keep this slide.
I love, oh my God, that's we'vetheater expression change went,
he went, a little kid.
He went to, yeah, he's, we'redone talking.
He a little sports.
Remember what you had to do,show and tell.
And the teacher finally calledon you and you got to do.
Show.
That's what he looked like.
That's right.
That was awesome.
By the way.

(23:21):
I want a shout out to NickFlood.
Um, the hundred grand bars aregone.
Oh, we could what?
Yeah.
They're all, they've all beenconsumed.
We've, you know, I, I have one aweek.
They were so good long.
Yeah.
It was kind of a small.
No, there was one left in there.
Was there, there was, it washidden.
So Nick, we'd like to have youback in the studio and, you
know, stop by Target and grab afew of those a hundred grand

(23:41):
bars.
It is Halloween season.
Oh, they, they're out there.
It's true.
It's yes.
Halloween season.
Okay.
All right, Steve.
You're the Ryan Seacrest of thisgame.
I don't like that comparison.
Well, you know, I wouldn't mind.
He's golden pipes.
Yes.
I wouldn't like his money andgolden wallets.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Alright, so this is a game thatwe played briefly and I, I was
looking forward to the timewhere we could actually do this
together.
Yes.

(24:01):
The world is a terrible place.
Uh, it can be a terrible place.
It can be.
We are here to help shine alittle light and try to just
offer little levity or at least,um, show experiences of, and,
and give examples of kindnessthat we see the world.
I, I want to just in along thoselines, my dad is at Regents
Hospital, and let me tell you,the staff, the entire staff with

(24:25):
one exception oh no, has beenexceptionally kind.
Wow.
Is it the same lady that youdealt with at Toy Shop?
She volunteer?
No.
What a, that's a great callback.
She found you, she found you agreat callback.
No, and, and truthfully, thisperson and, and you know, in the
spirit of giving this persongrace.
She may have been the personthat said things that nobody

(24:47):
else was willing to say.
Sure.
Just about.
And, you know, you, you kind ofneed that person in the world
that, that is sort of yourreality check.
He's got a spinal cord injury,and essentially what she said
is.
This might not go as, as we allhope that it will.
The way she said she, she's atruth teller.
Said the bedside manner.
She's a bedside manner.
You know, she, you know, I thinkthat she probably is on the

(25:09):
spectrum.
That's kind of, you know, shejust got a little autism to it.
She didn't have, didn't havethe, the emotional gotcha, uh,
abilities.
But let's go to your game,Steve.
Okay.
Now how this works is, it's,it's called, uh, would You
Rather Kindness Edition?
And we played it briefly, uh,one night.
Uh, together here the three ofus.
So now that everyone's here, Iwill, uh, I'll read a question

(25:31):
and you guys I'll go around andgive your answer on would You
Rather.
Alright.
Okay.
So we'll start with Michael.
Michael, would you rather, havethe superpower to instantly calm
angry people or instantly makesad people smile?
I would take the first I wouldlike to, was it calm, angry

(25:51):
people?
Calm, angry people.
Yeah.
I, that's the first, I want totake the first, because then
I'm, then, then hopefully I'm,I'm, I'm clearing the way and
I'm empowering them to make alot of people smile.
So I, I want to give that, Jeff,what's your answer on that one?
Well, I have a question forMichael on that.
Is just, do you run across a lotof angry people in your day to
day or, uh, and that's also whatyou picked aside from here.

(26:12):
Yeah, I, um, yeah, I mean, youknow, people have pressures of
deadlines, pressures of work,right?
They bring their personal lives,uh, into, you know, lots of
situations that are frustrating.
And I, you know, you gotta, youknow, it's funny.
I, I encounter these people andI'll ask them a question that is
completely unrelated to themeeting at hand, like.

(26:34):
Hey, did you have dinner lastnight?
You know, what'd you eat?
Or what'd you watch?
Or what do you, you know, juststuff like that kind of breaks
the pattern.
Oh, I just break the pattern.
Right.
But yeah.
Well, you already have thatsuperpower then.
Well, I don't know.
One story.
Yeah, it's no.
Excellent.
It's longer than you.
Yeah.
I think I'm gonna pick, uh, theother one.
Uh, the, the making sad peoplehappy.
Um, why would I say that?

(26:56):
I agree with you.
Yeah.
Because I feel like angrypeople, it's sort of like, get
over it.
Right.
Sad people, especially kids.
Could make them happy.
That's a big deal.
Yeah.
Sad people.
Happy.
So, Michael o and one, you're Ofor one.
Oh man, there's no, oh, whywould I, you know, this is the
kindness.
I, I apologize, Michael.
Alright, well get onto the nextone.

(27:17):
Yeah.
There's no right, wrong, right?
So I'm picking the second one.
Yeah.
Kg.
What do you think of that one?
Would you rather sad one, I, Iwant to make sad people smile.
Make people smile.
That gives me a lot ofhappiness.
Like when you can see.
The sadness melting away andit's not easy to do, right?
Like, well, we've probably alldone it as parents, when you,
you know, the kid's having a badday, you take'em out for a
little ice cream, you cheer'emup a little bit.

(27:38):
There's something magical.
About turning that frown, right?
Well, food, yes, but upsidedown, turning that frown upside
down.
Food can be a part of it too.
Yeah.
Well it could be a big part ofit.
This is coming from guy who'sgot two dogs that just adore him
and every time he walks in.
Right, right.
You know exactly what I'mtalking about, baby.
Yeah.
Mm.
Um, I realize that that was fromthe first edition question, so,

(27:58):
but I got, I got, I found myreal kind of sprung the sound.
Listen, if you go back, waswondering, let's say you're
digging through your filesthere, if you go back and listen
frantically.
If you go back and listen to thefirst time you did that, um,
because it was you and I andJohn, we answered the same way,
by the way.
I know.
Okay.
Okay.
So I guess the new, I guess thenew ones is these new ones.
Okay.
We've got new material here.
Yeah.
Can I just tell you that earlyonset, whatever I have, the fact

(28:20):
that I don't remember answeringthat questions is kind of, uh,
answer.
I don't remember the.
I listened to that.
I was on the road in Montana andI heard you guys, I just don't
remember the question, but Iheard you guys giving me a hard
time while I was not here todefend myself.
Unbelievable.
So nice job on that one.
Go ahead, speak.
Alright, John, would you rather,uh, give a stranger your
umbrella in a downpour or yourcoat in a snowstorm?

(28:43):
That seems like from last onetoo.
Yeah.
Can I be crass on this one?
See, umbrella, isn't it?
Go for it.
You do, don't you?
You don't, don't say it.
No.
About the wet t-shirt contest.
Oh my God.
No.
No.
Exactly where he was going.
No.
I would wanna give a cold personmy, my jacket.
Yeah.
Chance of illness is stronger.

(29:05):
One chance of the thing Ialready talked about.
Oh, okay.
Well all Could you quick repeatthe question?
It was the coat.
Go ahead.
Would you rather give a strangeryour umbrella in a, in a
downpour or your coat in asnowstorm?
I'm gonna go with the coat inthe snowstorm too.
Alright.
Something warm.
I like people feeling warm andyeah.

(29:25):
Anyone have a different thoughton that one?
I don't wear a lot of coats'cause I'm always warm.
I really don't like I'm, and I'mthinking about this out loud.
I don't carry a lot ofumbrellas, but I used to have
one in my car and if I sawsomebody in the downpour, likely
trying to get somewhere dressedup, looking nice, I would love
to pull over, pull out thatumbrella, just hand it to'em.

(29:45):
Sure.
So, you know, what, what arethose things?
10, 12 bucks.
I let em get in my car and drive'em to where they're going.
Just give'em the umbrella andoff you go.
You know what you, he's askingfor change here.
Actually, this is, this isinteresting.
I, you know, they sell those,they're, they're kind of cheap.
But they're like at uh, homeDepot.
You can buy those big umbrellasfor like five bucks a piece.
No kidding.
Yeah.

(30:05):
Wouldn't it be fun to go and buya whole bunch of those and wait
for a storm to come around andthen just start handing out
umbrellas?
We should do that and make ashow out of it.
Oh my God.
We can put our phone number onthere.
You know what we could get?
That's crazy.
We could go viral.
61.
Be kind.
What was the 23?
22?
Yeah.
61.
Be kind 22.
Hear from that?
We can put that on our, ourcheap umbrellas.

(30:27):
Go ahead, Steve.
Okay.
Um, who hasn't, Michael?
We'll, we'll give this some toyou.
Yeah, go ahead.
Would you rather be complimentedfor your kindness or your
intelligence?
Hmm.
Oh, that's, um, kindness.
'cause uh, the, that's a, that'sa stretch.
The intelligence piece is astretch.
So kindness for sure.
Kind The bar's low.
I just wanna go kindness.

(30:49):
Jeff, what about you, Steve?
I feel like these, you did readall these in the first episode.
Yeah.
That one you've already done.
Are you sure this is, this isvolume Two dudes.
Okay.
Re reread the question then,just so make sure I got it.
Would you be, would you ratherbe complimented on your kindness
or your intelligence?
My kindness, absolutely.
I don't need to be complimentedon my intelligence.

(31:09):
Oh.
If I was complimenting myfantasy football knowledge, oh,
that would be top of the list.
Yeah.
Did you win all your teams, yourgames this week?
I went seven and two of my ninesquads.
Okay.
But, um, the kindness oneclearly that, that's something
that every day, especially ifwe're a part of this show and
we're trying to live it out, Imean, if you get.
Compliment on doing somethingnice on a regular basis, being a

(31:32):
good person.
I think you get oxytocin thatway.
Yeah.
I think I don't get, for theintelligence I world, the world
needs a lot of it.
And right now there's a deficit,so we better be bringing
kindness to the world kg.
Would you rather teach kindnessin schools or model it on
national television?
Ooh, good question.
That is a good one.
I would say model it, um,easier.

(31:53):
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got the, you got the outlet.
I think it's a lot easier.
I mean, truthfully.
Yeah, I mean, going school toschool, that's a lot of work.
You know, you've got a platform.
Don't they refer to that as aplatform, which you got?
Yeah, but it's not national tv.
Remember, I'm a local minor.
Oh, minor local celebrity.
Yeah, that's the bit, the MLC,Steve, I'm gonna have to go with
teacher'cause of Dead PoetSociety.

(32:15):
And I just think making thatinstant or that, oh, it's a
deeper baby, that connectionthere with them.
Yeah.
That's a good thought.
Michael, I'm, I'm gonna go withJeff.
I, I gotta break that fourthwall.
Like you can model it, but uh,you know, you watch television
and it just seems distant and itseems something over there.
I think that if you teach it inthe classroom, it may have.

(32:35):
Might have more impact.
What do you, what do you No, Iwould like to say I am a fan of
efficiency and if I'm on thenational TV program, you know,
you can get a lot, maybe like ona Saturday morning program.
Oh.
Like the Today Show.
You could go on there for halfan hour.
Yeah.
Gather children around people.
Yes.
Michael's gonna do a 30 kids ata time.

(32:55):
I'm gonna do it 3 million at atime.
Oh, and I'll break your fourthwall.
Yeah.
Oh, oh, good.
Good for you.
And minor celebrity.
Are you kidding me?
You keep wearing those jacketskg and you, you're gonna be on a
major stage.
See, I told you we're goingplaces.
I got one more.
One more for everybody.
Okay.
Would you rather be a kindnessninja?

(33:16):
Silent.
Secret acts of kindness orkindness.
Rockstar, bold, visible grandacts of kindness.
I want everyone to see mykindness.
I want, I want to be popularbecause of it.
I want everyone to know.
I can't argue that that's not asurprise.
You feel the same way I do.
You are no ninja then.
I'm sure Michael and Jeff are,we're gonna do it quietly in the

(33:38):
shadow shadows.
Are we divided already in this?
You're a kindness rockstar.
What are you talking about?
What am I, what am I what youare Other pants.
Come on.
Maybe there's secret ninjathings that I do that you don't
know about.
There's not, I'm not kindness onstage.
I'm rocking up there.
Those are great questions.
I, I just said it out loud.
I should have just nodded andsmiled to you silently.
That would've been a ninja move.

(33:59):
Those are great.
Those are great questions,Steve.
I think if it's truly authentickindness, you're both a ninja
and on the public stage at thesame time.
See that, see that, you know,I'm kind of getting sick of you.
Syrup.
And your syrupy?
Yes.
Alright.
Oh God.
Your sincerity is starting toget a little nausea.
It's a little, frankly, Ifrankly like it.

(34:20):
Of course you do.
Oh yeah.
I think that wraps up our, uh,would you rather kind of citizen
volume too.
They are pretty much the samequestions, but they really were.
But you know what, it's, it'sgood to revisit those every once
in a while.
Oh, by the way, oh shit.
I'm so happy I remembered this.
I like the music.
Oxy to Sunday.
Yes.
My son Ben.

(34:40):
Okay.
Said, I wanna show you a video.
Have you guys ever seen theDoctor who, with Vincent Van
Gogh?
Video.
No, but, uh, here, let me shutthe music off.
I, I was, I was trying to be acool sound engineer here and,
uh, I have a, an, um, a thoughton Vincent Van Gogh, but keep it
going with your story.
So anyways, Ben says, you gottasee this, and it is a video of

(35:04):
Dr.
Who at the time was being playedby Matt Smith.
You guys know who Matt Smith is?
He was one of the Doctor whocharacters.
Yeah.
And he goes back in time andbrings Vincent Van Gogh into the
modern world.
Mm-hmm.
Cool.
And you know Vincent Van Gogh.
Only sold one painting in hisentire life.
You know, considered himself afailure, right?
And it was just this terriblething.

(35:26):
I encourage you all to, to go onYouTube and find the Vincent Van
Gogh thing from, from Dr.
Who.
He takes him into this museumand Vincent Van Gogh, loves
museums and he's looking aroundand he kinda looks to the right
and on the left you can see thatthis is the Vincent Van Gogh
deal.
And walks inside there and the,the actor Bill Nye, who's like

(35:49):
the curator of the museum, uh,the Dr.
Who character says, how wouldyou describe Vincent Van Gogh in
a hundred words?
And the way he describes theVincent Van Gogh thing?
And Vincent just.
Loses it, because he consideredhimself a failure.
And the Bill Nye character, he'slike, I think, you know, not

(36:10):
only is he one of the greatestartists of all time, but one of
the greatest men of all time.
And Vincent Van Gogh goes up andhugs him and he kinda looks at
him and he is like, no, that.
That, that couldn't be who itwas.
But you know, the, the, theartist who, um, wrote the song
Chevy and the Levy, or the Levywas Dry America.
Don McClain McClain, he, he hasa song called Vincent and it's

(36:32):
all about Starry Night and thatpainting, the famous painting,
but it's a really good.
Story about that and yeah.
Vincent John was, was that atthe Vincent Van Gogh experience?
Uh, no.
It was at, it was at a museum inLondon.
So I'm gonna, I'm gonna playthis.
Yeah.
And, and I want you to listen tothe impact that music, you don't
even have to see this, and youcan understand just how

(36:52):
impactful it is.
And you talk about OxytocinSunday.
So here, I'm gonna play this.
Where are we?
Paris 2010 AD and this is theMighty News.
A Dorsey home to many of thegreatest paintings in history.
Who?
A woman That's wonderful.

(37:12):
And then this Vincent fan.
Go from, I got that.
I've got something moreimportant Shape.
Take all.
Leading him up to the museum.
He still has both ears.
He's looking around.
He does have both ears.
I knew that somebody would saysomething.

(37:34):
Of course it was you like me.
He's looking at all, there's aMonet that he's looking at.
Just mesmerized doesn't noticethat this is the way to the Van
Gogh and Ben shared this withyou.

(38:05):
Yeah, so he's looking around andsurprised by what he's seeing.
He's seeing all of his painting,his own paintings on the walls,
their starry night.
Lots of people looking at himand Dr.
Who's like, what do you think?
This is my favorite part righthere, watching TV together.

(38:32):
Oh yes.
Glad to be of help.
You were nice about my child.
Yes.
And today is another cracker, ifI may say so, but I just
wondered.
Between you and me in uh, ahundred words, where do you
think Van Gogh rates in thehistory of art?
Well, um, big question.
Um, but to me, van Gogh is thefinest.

(38:54):
Painter in the moon, certainlythe most popular, great painter
of all time, the most beloved,his command of color, the most
eyes, wide open, magnificent,watery.
He transformed the pain of histormented life in two static
beauty.
Pain is easy to portray, but touse your passion and pain to

(39:17):
portray the ex.
Breaking down magnificence ofour world.
No one had ever done scanningthe room for his paintings or
looking at all of them.
No one ever seeing the peoplereacting, looking at them.
My mind, that strange wild manwho roamed the fields of
Provence was not only theworld's greatest artist, but
also one of them.

(39:38):
Greatest men who ever livedstarted to cry.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
Is it too much?
No, the curator's like, what thehell's going on here?
Who's that guy?
Thank you, sir.
Hugging.
Thank you.

(39:58):
You You're welcome.
You're welcome.
Sorry, I love the look on hisface right here.
You recognized him all of asudden.
Yeah, curator.
Anyway, I just, you know, that'scool.
You talk about, uh, that iscool.

(40:19):
Well, the lesson Oxy to Sunday,and I said to my son, I'm like,
Ben.
How did you find this video?
And he goes, it's my algorithm.
This is stuff that I love tolook at, love to watch.
And I thought, okay, kidding.
There's a guy who knows aboutOxy to Sunday.
And with that.
Off we go.
Wow, that was wonderful.

(40:42):
My algorithm's a littledifferent.
That's all I'll say.
Sydnee Sydnee Sweeney SydneeSweeney and meaningless fantasy
football stacks.
She's, that's where we're at inlife.
It's pathetic.
You never know how the actionsyou're taking now might affect
people in the future.
That's the lesson I take away.
Brilliant.